ok ok
#beta-ptr-spoilers
uncut lintel
subtle oar
You can't. RMT is straight up banned in WoW. This isn't Diablo Immortal.
uncut lintel
lol
ancient jasper
You're hilarious if you think that Blizzard has done shit about the VERY obvious RMT in high level Guilds
uncut lintel
idk i dont follow that type of stuff
subtle oar
You're hilarious if you think that Blizzard has done shit about the VERY obvious...
Gallywix refutes your baseless claim
uncut lintel
i just dont kno why ppl keep complaining abt it when they can just choose not to buy services
like how i choose to not do content
its not hurting uguys
if someone else wants to buy a boost
tepid fiber
You're hilarious if you think that Blizzard has done shit about the VERY obvious...
Then report it
ancient jasper
Because.. unfair advantage over the rest of the player base just because you have money?
tepid fiber
If you see it, report it
uncut lintel
Because.. unfair advantage over the rest of the player base just because you hav...
welcome to life
ancient jasper
@tepid fiber And have.. what happen? We know Blizzard isn't banning their cash cows.
tepid fiber
Not with that attitude
ancient jasper
@uncut lintel Games aren't life, bud.
uncut lintel
not everyone buys wow tokens tho, most ppl ik just farm their gold in the game themselves and buy services
subtle oar
<@877634411800182784> And have.. what happen? We know Blizzard isn't banning the...
1 Billion+ gold removed from the game when they banned the Gallywix community and all of its higher ups
uncut lintel
<@216765193047375872> Games aren't life, bud.
it went over ur head 
tepid fiber
"Nothing is going to happen, so I'm going to do nothing about it."
A few moments later
"OMG WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT THIS?!?"
uncut lintel
lol
tepid fiber
Apathy is death
strange falcon
Gallywix refutes your baseless claim
Unfortunately top end guilds state every tier how much money they spent on the race from carries to other gold services, i think limit or echo for sepulcher spent 400k
uncut lintel
400k is not alot
ancient jasper
At this point I feel like you are a troll, Fur.
uncut lintel
?
strange falcon
400k real money foxy
strange falcon
At this point I feel like you are a troll, Fur.
Nah shes just like that
ivory meadow
i'm pretty sure it's gold
ancient jasper
Nah I'm like 90% sure I heard someone say they'd spent over 10M gold
uncut lintel
and since its dragon related raids most likely, ppl gonna stand in fire on mythic and die 
which means more money
tepid fiber
If someone is doing RMT, report them
subtle oar
Unfortunately top end guilds state every tier how much money they spent on the r...
Those guilds do not say they commit RMT. Thats a lie. Some members have admitted to commiting RMT in the past, yes, but that does not make literally everyone guilty.
uncut lintel
how do u kno if they are doing rmt tho, unless ur close friends with em
other than big guilds
uncut lintel
Those guilds do not say they commit RMT. Thats a lie. Some members have admitted...
tbh fair
but alot of ppl nowadays blame whole group for one person
uncut lintel
and past shouldnt be considered as present, idk just a thought, imagine buying rmt 10 yrs ago and u get banned today ๐
im typing in here bcuz im dead on lfr jailer ok im sorry im obred
tepid fiber
There's also a bad habit of people having overly-emotional reactions to things that they don't understand or are in a position to personally experience and being inaccurate/ignorant about those things
subtle oar
^
uncut lintel
There's also a bad habit of people having overly-emotional reactions to things t...
honestly me and tru
strange falcon
Nah I'm like 90% sure I heard someone say they'd spent over 10M gold
Much more than 10, couldnt find the echo/liquid tweet tho
subtle oar
I really hate the argument that because In-game boosting for Gold and BoEs exist, WoW is in any way P2W
It is such a stretch and some impressive mental gymnastics
tepid fiber
It's basically the same thing as people who religiously stick to the meta for one fight of a raid boss and apply it as scripture in a +4 keystone
They don't understand and erroneously stick to or voice inaccurate opinions on things that don't apply to them
ancient jasper
Again really curious what you consider Pay-2-Win to actually be, Baifeng.
uncut lintel
tepid fiber
Again really curious what you consider Pay-2-Win to actually be, Baifeng.
Or you could voice your opinion, instead of taking the unnecessary offensive in a discussion where multiple people have pointed out where and why you're in the wrong
subtle oar
Again really curious what you consider Pay-2-Win to actually be, Baifeng.
Diablo Immortal. Where player progress is quite heavily locked behind spending real money
uncut lintel
wow things isnt locked behind spending money, u can either pay a boost or go out and earn it urself, wow baifeng ur smart,
strange falcon
Diablo Immortal. Where player progress is quite heavily locked behind spending r...
So buying "player power" also called gear, is pay to win in diablo immortal, is that what you're saying?
uncut lintel
GEAR IS SOMETHINGU USE FOR A PATCH THEN SELL IT LATER FOR 20G I DONT RLLY CONSIDER THAT "POWER"
sorry im getting weird
ancient jasper
That's LITERALLY the only thing in WoW that increases your power besides gimmicky shit like in Sanctum of Domination
uncut lintel
does anyone kno where i go to get my maldraxxus paragon
subtle oar
So buying "player power" also called gear, is pay to win in diablo immortal, is ...
You are playing word games to conflate gold with the store in DI.
tepid fiber
does anyone kno where i go to get my maldraxxus paragon
Rep vendor in front of the arena
subtle oar
So is Kinara
uncut lintel
Rep vendor in front of the arena
ill go look thanks, for some reason it doesnt show the ? on my map 
ancient jasper
Your view of P2W is so ridiculously narrow it might as well not even exist, but okay.
subtle oar
If you are a F2P player in DI, you will NEVER catch up to the whales. DI is designed to lock player progress behind spending money in the store. WoW is not, never is, never was.
tepid fiber
Your view of P2W is so ridiculously narrow it might as well not even exist, but ...
This is a dumb argument and can only be made better by changing the subject, because none of you are going to budge. Be the bigger person and drop it
subtle oar
This is a dumb argument and can only be made better by changing the subject, bec...
I'mma go back to watching Rugrats in Paris uwu
strange falcon
You are playing word games to conflate gold with the store in DI.
You can buy wow tokens with real money so technically you can have gold thats purely obtained from real money, to then purchase gear with that does increase your power significantly
You can buy gear with real money in both DI and diablo immortal,
And yet in neither game does $$$ help you with skill, which was the argument for wow
ancient jasper
.. In the dead middle of the zone?
tepid fiber
I've got like 12 minimancers already--but this is the wrong channel, Foxy
uncut lintel
i wasnt paying attention
strange falcon
If you are a F2P player in DI, you will NEVER catch up to the whales. DI is desi...
You can also argue that in lost ark F2P players can reasonably catch up to the top end spectrum(from 1385 to 1425 i think) as long as they spend like 16hrs grinding daily and have multiple characters,
While the conditions are very narrow, they can "catch up" to some extent, yet we still call lost ark pay to win
Despite your definition there
uncut lintel
i was too excited i apologize
strange falcon
On my earlier comment, a player that "earns it all himself" can certainly catch up to full mythic gear in wow, however that takes time, months of it.
And in the case of the world first race(which was the topic that sparked the discussion) they dont have the luxury of time, which is the reason for the ludicrous amounts of money in the 2 tweets i posted earlier.
Thus we can confirm that the world first race is indeed paytowin
Someone that spends 0 money isnt going to have the gold to fund the gear, it is not a matter of time here
And we go back to your own message here, "a f2p player(intended as a player with less than 10m gold at minimum) will never catch up to a world first raider even if they put in the same amount of hours and have equal if not superior skill"
vernal magnet
Have they added any new loot for wod dungeons?
vernal juniper
ember blaze
Scourge ๐
urban spire
I think there is a lot of cool tech they developed in island expeditions and torghast in terms of procedural dungeons, it would be kind of sad for all of that to never be used again
I would honestly love a torghast/island expeditions hybrid for solo to 5 man groups purely just for cosmetics, kind of filling how the end of torghast is working
but instead, no crafting materials and nothing like that
just a difficult, self challenge like the mage tower, but with lots of cosmetic rewards and procedural levels
rain cave
priest trees are out
plain violet
Light's wrath back, youhou.
rain cave
"Crystalline Reflection: Power Word: Shield instantly heals the target for 514 and reflects 20% of damage absorbed"
deep pawn
finally a new damn tree
trail knot
mindgames ๐
dense plover
Finally new talents
cunning fossil
I KR
dense plover
I hope we start seeing them more regularly
dense plover
Or theyโll launch alpha with only some classes enabled
Theyโve done that kind of thing before
dense plover
I think itโs much more likely that all classes have some form of talent tree WIP but the ones they are showing are the ones that have designer consensus on having gotten closer to what they envision
dense plover
And the others are very WIP and are still changing significantly
So they donโt want to show them off yet
cunning fossil
EVERYONE also gets focused will
Even Shadow priest
Prayer of Mendig as shadow though
Yoo
dense plover
Iโm glad dispel magic is baseline
Was worried they would talent that into utility when itโs already sorta niche
cunning fossil
Same
Oh I don't think anything as basic as that will be in a tree
YO
We get a pet build Permanently with shadow prism??
Purify Disease is on the tree
Shadowmend as Holy LMAO
dense plover
Also they released this very early
cunning fossil
Angelic father seems to have been buffed
dense plover
Which means itโs possible we will get more stuff today
cunning fossil
Idn't only 30% on live?
Twist of fate yo
That will buff Priest damage a ton
I can't wait for Damage oriented Holy priest
all the smite buffs
10% mana when something dies with Pain on it???
Is that not busted??
deep pawn
Wicked Star: Divine Star deals additional Shadow damage over 6 seconds to enemies in its path. Enemies hit by Divine Star are silenced for 2 seconds.
That's in disc
nocturne totem
Isnt Holy Priest very good with damage in M+ right now?
deep pawn
do you know how op a short CD aoe silence will be for m+?
cunning fossil
Isnt Holy Priest very good with damage in M+ right now?
Well that's with Boon
strange falcon
IT UP ITN
WAI so dangerously excited his writing skills went out the window
maybe he even is frothing at the mouth for any scrap of DF content
cunning fossil
Pet Build
strange falcon
*Wai has crashed*
ah, he acknowledged it
cunning fossil
A word of holy power that heals the target. If the target is not below 20% health, the caster takes damage equal to the amount healed. Healing is increased by 150% to targets below 20% health. Instant Cast, 30 second cooldown.
Skill check heal??
nice
rich elm
wow priests get pets?
strange falcon
Or theyโll launch alpha with only some classes enabled
thats not a bad idea, but they dont have the luxury of time
cunning fossil
wow priests get pets?
Shadowfiend bvuild for priest is a thing
rich elm
whoa
cunning fossil
Inner Light: Healing spells cost 15% less mana.
Inner Shadow: Spell damage and Atonement healing increased by 10%.
Activate to swap from one effect to the other, incurring a 6 sec cooldown.
coool
Full on Discipline Shadow build hell yeah
IO like this
When Atonement has healed a total of 100 times, your next Penance is free and fires 3 additional bolts.
While Shadow Covenant is active, Penance becomes Dark Reprimand, dealing Shadow damage over 1.7 sec. Castable while moving.
ooooh
Yes I will be spaming this channela bit shut up
Light's Wrath: Invoke the Light's wrath, dealing Radiant damage to the target, increased by 10% per ally affected by your Atonement.
LIGHT'S WRATH IS BACK YESS
strange falcon
WAI take your ADHD meds
being this level of excited for 1 talent tree isnt normal
cunning fossil
LMAO liugth well is back
Lightwell: Creates a Holy Lightwell. Every 1 sec the Lightwell will attempt to heal party and raid members within 10 yards that are lower than 50% health over 6 sec. Lightwell lasts for 3 min or until 15 heals are expended. 3 minute cooldown.
Empyreal Blaze: Refreshes Holy Fire. Your next 3 casts of Holy Fire cost no mana, incur no cooldown, and cast instantly. 30 second cooldown. Passive: Whenever Holy Fire is reapplied, its duration is now extended instead.
GIVE
This sounds so fun I wanna play it
cunning fossil
you hush. LEt me be pumped
strange falcon
cunning fossil
Idol of Y'Shaarj: Shadowfiend causes you to gain a benefit based on your target's current emotional state.
this is so freaking vague
but I love it
I want to know what it means
strange falcon
this is so freaking vague
idk if this is a reason to love it but ok
crimson jasper
hmm, maybe depending on your shadow words?
crimson jasper
could also be something with CC, psychic scream etc fears them
thats an emotional state xd
cunning fossil
coud be
crimson jasper
pain and death make sense tho too
hard to say how "death" feels tho
P cool stuff tho imo
like overall
cunning fossil
Idol of Yogg-Saron: After conjuring 50 Shadowy Apparitions, you summon a Thing from Beyond that serves you for 20 sec. The Thing from Beyond blasts enemies for Shadow damage.
That is nice
That's gonna look awesome
pet build
work inprogress mock up, interesting
"Sad. Thought every spec on all classes get an interrupt after the Druid preview."
this is the only dissapointement I actually had to be honest
perhaps they wanted to give Druids that extra edge along with Shaman
plain violet
I really like the "choose your old god" talent.
crimson jasper
yea seems fair tho
cunning fossil
agreed I love those two talent choices
crimson jasper
yea spriest deffo looking fun, could be a nice alt to mess around on
cunning fossil
I really like the "choose your old god" talent.
therea re actually two of them
Idol of C'thun or Yogg
and Idol of N'zoth or Y'shaarj
plain violet
Yes I saw that... i mean.. even if not "meta" I am all for RP talent.
Like the blessing of An'she and Mu'sha one.
ember blaze
"Sad. Thought every spec on all classes get an interrupt after the Druid preview...
yeah. But to keep things fair, they also all get a disease dispel
plain violet
The idea of what you tend for, in a deep level
cunning fossil
I really hope they give us another one today
Ok I may be in the minority on this like many things but
Why is Power Infusion so hated?
ember blaze
hoping for warlock and the return of meta for demo ๐
crimson jasper
Why is Power Infusion so hated?
probably cause it isnt a selfish talent xd
ember blaze
Why is Power Infusion so hated?
the biggest issue is for shadowpriest
cunning fossil
That makes it so that it affects BOTH targets
ember blaze
because youre forced to give away your only cd
crimson jasper
yea but only 50% you, so that evil other person gets bigger peepee than you
ember blaze
the other problem is how it makes people cannibalize each other about who deserves the buff
cunning fossil
That won't be an issue in DF since you have the option to make it dual cast
That's organized play though. that's how it works
if you're cannibalizing each other over it, then maybe y'
crimson jasper
normal people know
cunning fossil
y'all need to remember that this is a game
crimson jasper
like I always liked buffing another dps
ember blaze
it still has a competitive side
cunning fossil
and if you want to be fair about it, take turns l
cunning fossil
Wellyes but that's wthe thing about competitive ness
crimson jasper
I am sarcastic btw, I agree with you
cunning fossil
it's a one way street and you can't necessarily be pissed off about it not favoring you
crimson jasper
just give them a buff that "all dmg you deal you deal twice" and you can apply it to you or someone else
watch community kill itself
xd
upper pasture
Throes of Pain: Shadow Word: Pain deals an additional 5% damage over its duration. When an enemy dies while afflicted by your Shadow Word: Pain, you gain [5/10]% Insanity and Mana. Two Rank Talent.
haughty houndBOT
Coral Ancient - https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=145317/coral-ancient - PTR 9.2.7
upper pasture
seems like were never gonna run out of mana
ember blaze
did druid have ress as a talent?
strange falcon
i dont remember it being a talent no
ember blaze
"sorry i didnt talent ress" ๐
upper pasture
wait that PI talent in row 7 tho
crimson jasper
that'd be hilarious xD
upper pasture
i don't see a talent for rez but tbh i didn't look very hard yet
upper pasture
can't wait to put down lightwell for people to completely ignore it and cry they don't get heals
oh
nvm, it just radiates heals now. hmm....is that a new change or something that came after WoD?
or was it removed before that. idk i'm just scarred from being yelled at by my old holy priest main who used to yell at melee in WoLK or whatever it was lol
ember blaze
disc with the free point ๐ค
crimson jasper
also these are another set of cool talent trees, so far the direction they go with these is imo rather good
ember blaze
๐ meta for warlocks
crimson jasper
DH would cri
ember blaze
disc getting 10% mana regen ๐ค
cunning fossil
i don't see a talent for rez but tbh i didn't look very hard yet
Rez is baseline I thought
upper pasture
Yeah same, idk what someone was going on about?
cunning fossil
WoW players like complainijg
upper pasture
Yes, thatโs literally like my tag line
cunning fossil
Oh shit Priest is up I thunk!
Wait a minute isn't echoing void one of those N'zoth Corruptions that was little known?
Bu8ilding Pet Priest now
cunning fossil
https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight-talent-calc/AABcQAAQCIGRVAWQoJCgUAABkOVRWVEFQkBAg4FQBB
THis is the Pet Shadow PRiest Build
NOt enough Talent points to get to both Idols but still
cunning fossil
it's not selecting death as disc ๐ค
you don't get Deaht for free as Disc
you get Prayer of Mending for free as disc
ember blaze
cunning fossil
HUh
ember blaze
one free point
someone tell wowhead to fix it ๐
wont this just end up as a dead talent
when do you ever target an ally over enemy with penance
cunning fossil
Penance is pretty gooda t single target healing actually
sometimes, Atonement healing doesn't cut it
cunning fossil
hmms
https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight-talent-calc/AABcPBEJiAmERUSEhggEAABjMVVVWEkJEIAmFBA
Damage Holy Priest. At least as much as I can without completely gutting my Healing capabilities lol
TWilight Empowerment is 2 ranks when it should just be one?
ember blaze
where new trees ๐
ember blaze
so priest won't have any mana issues with all of this ๐ค
cunning fossil
maybe lol
https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight-talent-calc/AABcPEFQiImVRQSEhAgEAABhOVUZGAkBElFUCQUBA |
DIsc Priest PEnance Build
JHUst
Ughh I wanna play this so bad
rain cave
https://www.wowhead.com/dragonflight-talent-calc/AABcPEFQiImVRQSEhAgEAABhOVUZGAk...
this will be funny in PvP I think
with some adjustments
but the penance mainly
like
imagine you get power of dark side and it procs the bottom one where u get more bolts
and you just choose a target and meme them into the ground with penance
crimson jasper
whitemane would approve of that
cunning fossil
<:murloc:292763856432791552>
Donm't jinx it
ALso does anyone have good ideas for builds?
crimson jasper
@cunning fossil https://www.wowhead.com/news/idol-of-yshaarj-explained-blizzard-explains-shadow-priest-dragonflight-talent-327551?webhook
there we go
cunning fossil
That's so cool
crimson jasper
agreed
crimson jasper
could be we just get the next one tomorrow/before the end of the week
it is weekend afterall
cunning fossil
true true
cunning fossil
LMAO
cunning fossil
Ageed yeah that's nice
cunning fossil
l just prefer having a positive lookout over constant whining
which classa re you helping on?
hoping*
cunning fossil
<@247758224441344010> this shit sounds so OP
it's alreadty a talent in game
crimson jasper
since I wanna main Evoker l am waiting on that, which it will most likely be last
over the cause of the game l played the other classes too much and l want some fresh air, although spriest might be my alt if I actually manage to keep up on playing an alt
cunning fossil
it's a nice ability
rain cave
it's alreadty a talent in game
yeah but there are other areas in the tree that buff renew and prayer of mending
aren't there
that are new
cunning fossil
yeah but there are other areas in the tree that buff renew and prayer of mending
oh true!\
cunning fossil
yeah that is pretty neat
Time to see what can be done with Shadow Off healing
thqat's gonna be fun
UltimateBrent said:
Just what spriest needs: something super complicated!
Reply
Wouldnโt be a shadow priest without confusing fish speak!
Lmao people are salty that their classes have flavor
god forbid
ember blaze
@rain cavetwo of those are already talents
crimson jasper
people are always salty if their spec is more complicated than current bomb spam on survival
God forbid needing to use your brain to get good results xd
ember blaze
@cunning fossilvoid language is annoying if youre trying to type something
it can affect gameplay
cunning fossil
Ehhh
IT comes up so rarely
Like
how often will you be in void form saying things?
Maybe with macros I get it
But you can'
But you can't pretend as if this game is just about the numbers and not some flavor
ember blaze
Itโs not that big of a deal now with the long cd
cunning fossil
like there's probably a reason you chose S Priest instead of MAge otehr than the damage
ember blaze
But I regularly had that issue back in bfa and legion and it was super frustrating
I think lore aspects or whatever are in the minority for most people
If youโre playing shadow youโre probably a fan of the gameplay and shadow magic
Not really because you speak gibberish
cunning fossil
I guess that's fair but like.
that's part of the fantasy
I know gameplay trumps fantasy most times but it shouldn't do it every time
That's me personally. i know there are players who are better than me that care about it more
crimson jasper
l like Shadow because of the flavor over its mechanics, tho l also like it's gameplay loop
rain cave
@cunning fossil still somewhat penance focused but a lot more on just straight healing as disc
as opposed to dealing damage to heal
strange falcon
but why would you play disc to "straight heal" it defeats the purpose of the spec,
just play holy
rain cave
because fun
strange falcon
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
rain cave
same as why people enjoyed gladiator stance
also holy has a different playstyle than straight heal disc
and it's not like straight heal disc doesn't still DPS
it's just that it's not as much as a shadow oriented disc, but still a lot more than holy with more itility
dense plover
I mean - you wonโt get M+ as a straight heal disc
The entire benefit of bringing a disc player is that they do great damage
strange falcon
You wont get invited to M+ anyway if priest let alone disc priest isnt a meta class in the first place
dense plover
I mean, that more depends on tuning
Disc priest can be pretty strong
The ability for your healer to contribute significantly to damage can be very powerful in M+
rain cave
I mean - you wonโt get M+ as a straight heal disc
I thought disc wasn't great in M+
because they don't get chance to ramp up
ember blaze
i think their dmg got nerfed too much
urban spire
you guys are speculating on a spec and multiple specs that haven't even been tested yet...
I don't think its fair to make assumptions like "you aren't gonna be invited to m+"
at least not yet
because even though its essentially just baking the current spec into a talent tree, there are still some differences that could be rather large changes when everything is said and done
strange falcon
I don't think its fair to make assumptions like "you aren't gonna be invited to ...
It is 100% fair, we have seen this all before for half a decade if not the full 17years of wows lifespan and the community hasnt changed,
If you dont have the meta talent build or a meta spec, you wont be invited into pugs.
Why do you think feral druids dont get invited even though both now and during 7.2 in legion they were actually very good
As well as survival hunter, tho they dodged the bullet this patch specifically because they're so far ahead of the other 2 specs its noticeable
ember blaze
@cunning fossilwelp, no trees today. See you next month.
ember blaze
evoker gonna be last ๐ญ
cunning fossil
Straight heal Disc Priest looks fun
Might be better to have in M+ potentially
Than normal
cunning fossil
<@247758224441344010>welp, no trees today. See you next month.
Shoot me
Genuine quiestoon
Why do people love Innervate
But hate Power Infusion?
Isn't it like... kinda the same?
tepid fiber
It's is
tepid fiber
But hate Power Infusion?
I know I'm like a broken record at this point but it's because gamers...
Well yknow
cunning fossil
Like big number?
tepid fiber
Sure let's go with that 
Still people actively complaining about the stat squish because smaller numbers nearly 2 years after the fact
cunning fossil
Oh lmao
subtle oar
But hate Power Infusion?
See, I have never seen anyone hate PI. Everyone loves PI, Priests hate using it on anyone but themselves tho so its just a games of toxicity
cunning fossil
See, I have never seen anyone hate PI. Everyone loves PI, Priests hate using it ...
I can point you to many
MANY
Angry comments that are people screaming to delete PI
tepid fiber
See, I have never seen anyone hate PI. Everyone loves PI, Priests hate using it ...
Greedy gaming
uncut lintel
what does PI do
subtle oar
Those ppl are probably Raid Leaders, who hated dealing with the drama
cunning fossil
what does PI do
Gives a player 25% Haste for 20sec
uncut lintel
ololol
cunning fossil
In DF they get a talent that gives the priest the up to 100% of the effect
uncut lintel
cunning fossil
As a class talent
uncut lintel
instant
cunning fossil
And people are still pissing themselves
uncut lintel
healz
cunning fossil
If there is drama for PI, there is also drama for Inervate right?
Because
T-they function nearly identically
How do people solve it for Innervate?
ember blaze
Why do people love Innervate
cause dps players have main character syndrome and are more selfish and entitled ๐
cunning fossil
Ah
That makes sense
So it is literally just
"I'm Better. I DESERVE IT"
Even if their spec doesn't benefit from haste
ember blaze
yes
tepid fiber
If there is drama for PI, there is also drama for Inervate right?
That's my secret, Cap. There's always drama
cunning fossil
LMAO
rain cave
*That's my secret, Cap. There's always drama*
why is there drama on PI
it's a fun cooldown
I like spamming smites fast
๐
upper pasture
Yesh, I usually just PI random people during my dungeons just because itโs fun to give it to others. I donโt see why people hate it
tepid fiber
why is there drama on PI
Usually it's people going "REEE I WANT PI" or "REEE I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE PI" or "REEE WHY AREN'T YOU GIVING ME YOUR PI"
upper pasture
Itโs not like Iโm pushing super high keys so my PI is just for fun
tepid fiber
rain cave
Usually it's people going "REEE I WANT PI" or "REEE I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE PI...
if people survived the legendary ring in HFC
they can survive PI
uncut lintel
just tell them to get more haste
rain cave
get their corruptions on
subtle oar
T-they function nearly identically
afaik, wasn't innervate for mana?
subtle oar
If there is drama for PI, there is also drama for Inervate right?
PI causes drama because is actually benefits other classes more than the Priest themselves.
ember blaze
innervate lets a healer ignore mana for 10 seconds
cunning fossil
afaik, wasn't innervate for mana?
If you're a restoration Druid, you'd effectively be gimping yourself by giving Innervate to someone else right?
Technically
I suppose that is fair but it doesn't deserve to be deleted because of it lmao
ember blaze
@cunning fossilyou get half
subtle oar
If you're a restoration Druid, you'd effectively be gimping yourself by giving I...
Usually you innervate healers. Most Raid leads, outside of maybe the RWF, will prioritize Innervate on Healers over Casters.
Maybe in farm nights where you've already toppled the fight and want to parse. But progression, you innervate healers
tepid fiber
tbf, I've seen pug shaman rage at tanks who request Earth Shield cast on them
cunning fossil
well of course u innervate healers
tepid fiber
It's really a player issue, not a gameplay issue
cunning fossil
You literakky can't cas tit on anyone else
Why don't healers bitch and moan like DPS players do?
cunning fossil
<@247758224441344010>you get half
in DF at least, PI will be duplicated on both
tepid fiber
They're just happy to be included
subtle oar
Its different because Innervate and PI are not the same
cunning fossil
They really aren't that different
subtle oar
PI doesnt benefit the Priest as much as it benefits others
cunning fossil
they're just for different roles
tepid fiber
That and # of healers VS # of dps kinda lets healers feel less competitive over slots
cunning fossil
Fair fair
but also, the classes complaining about not getting PI may be the classes in which haste is the worst stat in some cases.
I kind of get it but also it seems like an incredibly petty thing to argue about.
That's me though Maybe I'm too giving
tepid fiber
I'd imagine mainstat haste specs would want PI even more
subtle oar
^
cunning fossil
I mean yeah that makes sense.
subtle oar
One night during SoD farm on the Eye, I almost got PI on my Hunter, til someone else bitched, caused a massive drama in voice then the PI was given to the DK
tepid fiber
Like I said earlier, it's a selfish gaming issue
cunning fossil
True enough. Just sucks that for this reason alone, Bards will never be a class.
"Supporting other people and helping them do better? what the fuck that's horrible"
tepid fiber
It's similar to MM hunter rage over Kyrian early on, because their cov leggo buffed other players more
cunning fossil
ohhh I getcha
That's personally me. I like being helpful and crap ^^
my DnD wants are blending lmao
ember blaze
you can even filter for buffs in logs ๐ค but people still anal about it
tepid fiber
That's personally me. I like being helpful and crap ^^
Oh, no, I meant that MM hunters complained that their party members got buffed more than them
rain cave
I remember we had a raid leader who did piss poor DPS and was getting a personal PI from his e-girl officer @tepid fiber @cunning fossil
I invited my friend to the raid, who's like mythic raider
and he said "maybe we shouldn't PI this guy it's wasted on his dps"
or someshit
and it was just completely ignored in that awkward brought something you shouldn't have up
cunning fossil
Oh, no, I meant that MM hunters *complained* that their party members got buffed...
oh right. That was the discourse.
Just make it so that they get more of a benefit then I guess? wierd
deep pawn
I'm a weirdo, but I wish parsing wasn't a thing
Like yeah try to improve, but ranking your dps is so meaningless to ne
crimson jasper
all the dps meter is is a dick measuring contest, compared to what it was intended to be which is a tool to help you improve
and individual parses are also meaningless, cause your "best parse" often comes from ignoring mechanics and fucking over your team lol
tepid fiber
People acting like every fight is Patchwerk
rain cave
word firsters don't have/need top theoretical parse
crimson jasper
ofc not
rain cave
like it's fun to go and flex damage numbers in some ways but at the same time if you're progging, as long as people can show they know what they're doing. Parses are not the primary factor in performance
crimson jasper
stuff is a team effort and while everyone is trying to optimize and do their best, l bet you no longer one is gonna whine about a Pl or that someone "didn't do enough dmg/parse high enough"
rain cave
since you can cheese parses
most fun I have raiding is when I'm not only doing good damage but popping off on mechanics
crimson jasper
yup, just take fights with adds to pad your dmg in Meter
rain cave
e.g. in nathria as a warrior I would use heroic leap and door of shadows to make up for our lack of ranged dps on those guys that spawn on the platform
sacrifice boss damage to make sure the add goes down
crimson jasper
mechanics > dps
rain cave
and lining it up with my raid without causing them any worry
also nathria you could ignore part of a mechanic if you were a shaman/DK or nightfae right?
on denathrius
the stacks
uncut vault
Honestly I think a big thing is also just how many variables WoW has, each class isnt just a class, it's 3 different specs, with a whole variant of talent builds (moreso in dragonflight), playing in fights with a lot of RNG-based mechanics
rain cave
which could be great to conserve mana and get the boss down quicker
uncut vault
its why its ironic that meters are much more heavily discouraged in ffxiv, because it's a game much more suited to them
crimson jasper
at the end of the day, as long as the boss goes down, everyone did a good job
uncut vault
the jobs are all exactly the same no matter who is playing them, the fights are all dances with very perfectly timed mechanics to do correctly, the design encourages meters and self improvement way more than WoW does
crimson jasper
some are better players some do less, but if it works it works
and I am not saying carry dead meat, ofc you should perform accordingly
rain cave
also sometimes the "best" loadout for your individual class isn't the best in your groups context
crimson jasper
its why its ironic that meters are much more heavily discouraged in ffxiv, becau...
that's true
rain cave
if you've already got a lot of execute damage say
crimson jasper
also sometimes the "best" loadout for your individual class isn't the best in yo...
Also true but "meta" ya know
rain cave
then it might be better to move your damage profile
to somewhere else
so you can get your group to execute phase faster
crimson jasper
but the guide said!!!!!
deep pawn
I want more group buffs
crimson jasper
people don't use their heads anymore
rain cave
I want more interesting group buffs
crimson jasper
just "idc show me what's best"
deep pawn
I hope preservation has a bunch
uncut vault
I dunno if I'd call versatility an interesting stat ๐
rain cave
no but I'm just asking
unrelated
since evokers fantasy is how they are versatile
I could see it happening ;p
deep pawn
What are druids getting?
uncut vault
Increases the target's Speed and critical strike chance by 3% and reduces their magic damage taken by 3% for 60 minutes.
rain cave
speed buff nice
ember blaze
if dracthyr are having better gliding than DH, is the flight stuff gonna be tied to the race or class ๐ค
gonna be op if other classes(when that opens up) get to fly for everything ๐ค
crimson jasper
the DH+ stuff is tied to the race
least that's what it sounded like
same as the tail swipe and wing buffet
if it were tied to Evoker, it would be p awkward once/if other races can be evoker
although l dont really see how other races could be evoker, tbh l'd prefer if they just couldn't, it might seem more restrictive but building a class fantasy tied to a race that fulfills that fantasy gives them way more options to express the fantasy without limitations of "how does it have to work and look on X other race"
rain cave
Giving other races as visage forms is better
Adds more variety and fulfils the fantasy
crimson jasper
that l absolutely agree
dense plover
Giving other races as visage forms is better
thats MUCH more likely - i dont see other races coming to evoker since it relies on them being a dragon person
crimson jasper
indeed
crimson jasper
ohhhh
tepid fiber
{NEED TO 
MORE INTENSIFIES}
crimson jasper
xD
tepid fiber
More disappointing than wet socks, my bad for being fooled
tepid fiber
I guess it's that main class "need to know more" reflex lmao
crimson jasper
l dont expect anything today, but Monday-Wednesday are definitely still game
if not, we'll get it when we get it
priest one was pretty good imo
ember blaze
@crimson jasper Iโm talking about dracthyr(the race).
If the dh gliding stuff is tied to the race, then imagine a priest gliding and jumping everywhere
uncut vault
I'd imagine that from a technical level, they'll tie stuff like that and the passive dragonriding to the race rather than the class, since if they ever end up giving dracthyr other classes, it would be weird to say "sorry, your wings dont work anymore because you like to use totems"
rain cave
god I can only imagine the shit glitchers will do with that
it might be too gamebreaking for certain things
if they do actually get like DH glide or something that is
uncut vault
new AB strat, cap lumber mill then mass-evoker glide over to mines lol
rain cave
porter
you don't even realize how good that will be
@uncut vault
they have a fucking wing buffet knockback too
so lumber mill will be a cakewalk
uncut vault
lol, nice
strange falcon
Evokers will be OP and you'll see them in 90% of your groups just like DH was in legion, not that they were any less powerful in bfa
rain cave
I'd be interested if because evokers are made from the ground up for the new talent system, and only have 2 specs that they'll end up being slightly weaker in some ways
other classes have tons of effects they can pool
whereas evokers talents might just be all building the class
I'll be curious to see
ember blaze
I'd imagine that from a technical level, they'll tie stuff like that and the pas...
Right, but won't that introduce a lot of balancing issues? Essentially making anything mobile and slippery, even for classes that aren't meant to be mobile. Now add onto it classes who are already fast.
Like in the preview, the dragon was just casually flying around without casting.
upper pasture
i just thought it was a fly forward and breathe fire down attack nothing more
akin to high mountain taurens charge you can't do anything during it except that attack
ember blaze
i just thought it was a fly forward and breathe fire down attack nothing more
that's an evoker skill, not a race thing
upper pasture
is it? evoker and dracthyr are one in the same.
ember blaze
like it's just flying around casually, and really fast
so im concerned it will be problematic once they open them up to other classes
upper pasture
wasn't that like a push back mechanic?
ember blaze
it's about to cast a beam
but 2 seconds before that it's just flying around doing nothing
then it's channeling the beam while flying around
tepid fiber
What about gliding racial, and then class movement abilities?
That way if/when they get access to the glide and maybe a racial that's just goblin's Rocket Boots but flappy and movement-directed
rain cave
the flying and casting will be class locked lol
the discussion here is if their wing buffet will be racial
and if they will have a racial glide
for when/if they get other classes available to them
crimson jasper
Like in the preview, the dragon was just casually flying around without casting.
the ability you talk about there specifically was "Soar" and is an Evoker thing
dense plover
the discussion here is if their wing buffet will be racial
the thing is - i dont think they have racials
because the class is the race and vice versa
rain cave
the thing is - i dont think they have racials
no they have racials
I'd say their dragonriding will be a racial
and maybe something else unique
dense plover
no they have racials
you cant say this when we literally dont know
dense plover
well races have racials
this is the first time theyre doing this though
weve never had a class/race combo
rain cave
but they've already said they might add more classes to them
so there is obviously a seperation
they won't tie any of the big 'class' features to their race
that would be silly
but things like dragon riding racial, as their racial flying mount or whatever
that's fine and probably a safe bet as a racial
dense plover
thats fair
i dont think any of the movement stuff will stay
i could see one of the channel abilities staying
rain cave
for racials?
ofc they won't get their flying/casting thing
they've already said that's a class thing I think
if they want to get creative and be cool, then they'd make an interactive cool racial like choosing an ally and getting a stat buff/proc based on their type of magic
or more passively, like the zandalari where you choose a dragonflight racial
alternatively if they want to be more boring, versatility fits because dragons are versatile
so flat 1% vers would be the boring but possible option
or somethin
crimson jasper
they've already said that's a class thing I think
replying to you too then cause yes, it is an ability called "Soar" that lets them fly and cast on the move, ofc theres no specifics yet as to what they can cast while doing this or how it impacts channels maybe, but so far I guess it's a lower CD Spiritwalker
rain cave
replying to you too then cause yes, it is an ability called "Soar" that lets the...
yeah I saw your message earlier
rain cave
nw
crimson jasper
but yea if they stick with how they explained it I'd say the DH gliding stuff and buffet etc are racials
but who knows
urban spire
well they said they could do dragon riding by them lonesomes
rain cave
yes
crimson jasper
Evoker is very much a "dragon class" too so could be some baseline abilities from them
urban spire
and yeha I think it would be racial to dracthyr
rain cave
I reckon anything "physical" to being a dragon that's within scope of being a racial
urban spire
the class itself is just using the dragon magics
rain cave
can be a racial
urban spire
the flying stuff is related to the physical aspect of a dracthyr
crimson jasper
kinda hard to imagine a Dragon that can't use magic, imo they really should stick to Dracthyr only being evoker
to this day only Elves can be DH so
urban spire
I'm not against it, but there are lots of dragonkin that are more weapon bases
based
the ones I think of are the wyrmkin in cata with the polearms
and deathwing used a massive mace in his human form
well
visage form
though I agree that all dragons can use magic
strange falcon
kinda hard to imagine a Dragon that can't use magic, imo they really should stic...
They're gonna make dracthyr be able to do more classes in 10.3 so they can gather the "omg They're totally listening" cries from the community
But they wont give more races that can be DH until people complain hard enough
rain cave
They're gonna make dracthyr be able to do more classes in 10.3 so they can gathe...
more classes to DH
strange falcon
Fixed
crimson jasper
They're gonna make dracthyr be able to do more classes in 10.3 so they can gathe...
kinda doubt that, if only because you just love to find something to be negative about^^
tho with all classes being opened up, l'd guess Dracthyr as well will become available for other classes
but not for a long while
crimson jasper
Dracthyr DH
4 wings xD
Also if we would ever get dwarf druids they should have a Capibara travel form
rain cave
ik it's a meme but I don't see it fitting dwarves
but I could see them adding capibara's in some future zone because aah funny animal
and then making it a glyph for druids
@cunning fossil there is a funny build I'm looking at for holy that could actually be interesting
where you go full shadow build on the class tree pretty much
because you get insane mana regen from it
could be funny
spamming holy fires for damage
smiting gives you a chance to make you heals free
shadow fiend giving you mana regen
guess you could just spam AOE heals whenever and then DPS while they're on cooldown and not needed
crimson jasper
ik it's a meme but I don't see it fitting dwarves
yea l wasn't serious l just like them and they are compact and stumpy just like dwarves xd
Also that seems fun, if it works heh
already proves tho how much more interesting these are to work with compared to the current system
subtle oar
but not for a long while
11.0. Ez.
crimson jasper
yea thats some good years away from now heh^^
uncut lintel
@subtle oar hi baifeng 
uncut lintel
r u gonna play dragonflight
subtle oar
If its not a shitshow!
subtle oar
UwU
must be a sign
subtle oar
If it is, I'll stick to FF for a time
uncut lintel
bunny
uncut lintel
subtle oar
UwU
ember blaze
I hope dracthyr have a combat ress ๐
crimson jasper
could be very likely seeing bronze magic
ember blaze
- lust too huh ๐ค
upper pasture
i don't think one class should have both tbh
rain cave
they might have "mini" versions
like a bronze heal divine dymm that reverses damage
so is reliant on damage taken
cunning fossil
Dracthyr hopefully have a niche that isn't currently filled
Like
If Restoration had a raid wide defensive that would "undo" the last 5 seconds worth of damage it could be awesome
rain cave
yes
I want some whacky mechanic that's new and not just a stat check kind of ability
like combining leap of faith and alter time
so you can send enemies backwards to previous position
upper pasture
If Restoration had a raid wide defensive that would "undo" the last 5 seconds wo...
Iโd like this even if it was group wide
Or like haste bubbles like mail elementals
Oh, what if bronze spells had a chance to give you X% haste for X seconds. So healing/over healing could be useful ish if you got procs on allies
rain cave
could even give them an effect like the spirit shell disc thing
(by which I mean getting a 'buff' that gives you burst survivability that needs to be then caught up to)
or like shadow mend
so imagine a CD where you can go all out and heal, pop everything
but then when it ends you get reset back to when you started
and the healing you did is undone
cunning fossil
Would be awesome
uncut lintel
cunning fossil
Lmo
subtle oar
<a:PopPopcorn:854386358771908650>
I want dis
uncut lintel
take it
ember blaze
but then when it ends you get reset back to when you started
so alter time
rain cave
Yeah
That's what I'm thinking
Something that could save from a wipe only if you can pay back the healing loan
dense plover
or something that keeps your group alive for a limited time before everyone who was dead dies again
something to get you through the last 2%
cunning fossil
Oooh that could be uber clutch
rain cave
or something that keeps your group alive for a limited time before everyone who ...
a raid wide cheat death sounds busted af tho lmao
I could see maybe a temporary Brez though
that doesn't share the cooldown with normal brez
upper pasture
yeah make it party wide so party placement matter for more than say windfury totem
or erm....group comp
rain cave
maybe not raid wide
I don't mean raid wide for the brez
like just an independent from raidwide normal brez
where you can reanimate somebody for a time
guess if you wanted a raid wide support bronze thing you could have some weird damage echo
there's a couple of mechanics they could dip into
upper pasture
Remember when DK had a time limit brez and people cried and got it changed to a true brez? Yeah me too
rain cave
Remember when DK had a time limit brez and people cried and got it changed to a ...
yeah I was remembering that but wasn't that the one that turned them into a ghoul?
but even if it wasn't it wouldn't be the first time I've seen big game companies design themselves into a circle
fucking riot games have done that multiple times now
upper pasture
Yes, โplayersโ didnโt like the time limit rez
rain cave
remove something only to add it back in down the line like "oh wow we don't have this effect in the game"
forgetting why they removed it
I'd be down for a temp brez like that though
upper pasture
Honestly I think we have enough brezzes and I donโt think we need more.
rain cave
not a full brez but like
if you're at 2% on the boss and a tank goes down you can get them up again for 7 seconds or something
I just want some kind of unique time based mechanic for them
if they're just normal healers that undo some damage as a mini-gimmick on a spell
that would be a shame
upper pasture
I mean they are a hero class so Iโm sure there will be more to them than that
rain cave
tru
2 specs also means deeper individual specs
and they aren't limited to individual gimmicks
since evokers are meant to be an amalgam class
but yeah I remember people complaining about DH only having 2 specs
like
"ok what's a good idea for a 3rd spec"
"go on"
upper pasture
Iโm just sad we arenโt going to have a black aspect tanking spec
But whatever, itโs blizzards game
upper pasture
Yeah thatโs a given
But like thereโs a difference between getting a few flavored defensives as black magic and a whole spec around it
rain cave
hell maybe they'll get a legendary or something unique into the expansion to do with wrathion
๐คทโโ๏ธ
upper pasture
There will definitely be a whole campaign dealing with Wrathion
tepid fiber
Like we don't know the exact process for how he made them, but with his history of experimenting on his own flight and not infusing his own essence into the Demon/Dragon Soul it could go either way with how much black flight stuff they're made to use
rain cave
I am hopeful that because legendaries won't be core power progression this time round that any we do get are unique and cool
like raid boss dropping a core item that has a short questchain where you empower it into a legendary
upper pasture
Honestly it makes a lot of sense if Nefarion didnโt give them a lot of black flight power because he wouldnโt want one of them going rogue and usurping him
Being as paranoid as he was
tepid fiber
He also takes a lot of pride in his own power and wanted to create them to be the ultimate combo of mortals and dragons
It really could go either way
rain cave
e.g. first raid tier is primal incarnates, fire one drops a piece of obsidian scale, we try to learn the half giant people's magma shaping and take it to the firelands and turn it into a fiery magma obsidian great sword
or somesuch
and it's just a good high ilvl item with a unique proc
like sylv bow
upper pasture
I donโt think we will see legendaries again so soon or at least as many as we did this time
rain cave
yeah that's what I'm saying
make less legendaries but make them actually unique
so somebody getting it goes
"OH SHIT"
tepid fiber
and it's just a good high ilvl item with a unique proc
Yeah but you know there's gonna be some clown in pugs trying to minmax the hell out of content that doesn't matter calling for a vote kick because you don't have X
rain cave
did that happen with sylv bow?
tepid fiber
Yeah
rain cave
sheesh
tepid fiber
It's always a thing
upper pasture
Itโs always a thing tho
rain cave
maybe make it a heroic+ only drop?
upper pasture
There will always be minmaxxers
rain cave
so there's an incentive
tepid fiber
It will still be a thing
rain cave
I think that just walking straight into that and letting people realize the issue is self made might be a solution
imbalance doesn't kill the game
even perceived imbalance
look at classic, game was hella unbalanced
as long as it's fun though
who cares
tepid fiber
You're not wrong, but there will still be people who aggressively disagree
rain cave
and gear has to be impactful
like
if people are complaining about gear being too good where they been
it's impressive what WoW players can do
tepid fiber
I legit have get kicked for playing a goblin in a +5 because it's not "BiS"
upper pasture
Lol what
tepid fiber
Pugs really summon some bottom-tier metachasing
tepid fiber
what class
Yes
rain cave
goblins have good racials
regardless
they got extra mobility and haste
that's just nice to have
even if not bis
tepid fiber
I'm pretty irl why would I wanna be pretty in a videogame that's why I'm a goblin main
tepid fiber
Yeah, people in pugs regularly criticize and flame stuff that only matters to world first nonsense
upper pasture
Your racials ainโt gonna make a difference
tepid fiber
Exactly
upper pasture
But people gonna be weird
tepid fiber
I'm just using an example of the type of pseudo-logic puggers use
ember blaze
couldn't be me in dragonflight ๐ (hope healer evoker can silence)
strange falcon
inb4 everyone doesnt talent into interrupts/silences because of dps talents, that would be fun to see
rain cave
I think if you're not talenting into interrupts your build is already whack
e.g. shadow priests lose so much synergy if they don't take the interrupt side of the tree
obv build isn't a real build it's just me filling things in to see how it pans out
but like the optimal DPS build will still most likely have a silence in it
alternatively you'd trade one of the must take utility talents for the silence or vice versa
like even here you need to take mind bomb
or the psychic scream talent
which is CC
languid yoke
the only spec right now that can really reasonably skip on interrupts is guardian/feral druid
spriest maybe in ST?
ember blaze
kinda weird that the single target boosting passive requires mind sear
rain cave
I will say it's weird how the spriest tree is so lopsided and like a christmas tree
the talents on the side here aren't connected downwards
you gotta invest into them for CC proper
without being able to piggy back on them for more damage talents
ember blaze
would it be a problem if there is a clear direction for single vs aoe? ๐ค
like, why not put spring blossom on the right side and the swiftmend heal on the left ๐ค
cunning fossil
They did say these were mock ups and were very much open to moving where talents were
rain cave
like there's some kind of allegorical rippable cord that they can pull should things not pan out
cunning fossil
https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-13416222
They literally said this in the blog post
Like I'm not coping they were clear about that at least
And it literally says it in the screenshits
"Work in Progress Mock Up"
Like.being pessimistic isn't necessarily a bad thing 3ith the wow dev team at this point but yeesh
upper pasture
i wonder if we're gonna get a different catch up gear for S4
cunning fossil
I kind of doubt it maybe?
ember blaze
cant they just up the Zm gear
cunning fossil
Might up the item level of all the gear
upper pasture
i guess it depends on how much higher the itmlvl goes
ember blaze
isnt it reaching 300
upper pasture
maybe high end gear will but catch up gear? no
i could see 252 so it's on par with cypher gear
i just don't want to spend the anima now if were just gonna get higher in a month
ember blaze
I mean, you get that anima back in 10 minutes in ZM lol..
upper pasture
yeah but there's a difference between gearing 1 alt and 32 my guy
ember blaze
32 is a very unique problem
upper pasture
and? i never said it wasn't?
ember blaze
233 AH gear ๐คทโโ๏ธ
upper pasture
lol you think i'm gonna spend gold on alts when i won't spend anima on them?
upper pasture
uh...no? just not gonna spend a boat load on anima when in 4 weeks the same stuff might be higher? its cause getting the best value
sullen dawn
Keeping 32 alts geared is pure insanity
I've about 25 60s but keep like 2, maybe 3 geared.
Jump on others when I just feel like a flavour swap. Usually change mains each expansion too
But keeping 32 consecutively geared......ehhhh
rain cave
But keeping 32 consecutively geared......ehhhh
if you have infinite gold I suppose it's possible but that's kinda cheating
nocturne totem
32 alts!?
upper pasture
i mean "gearing" would be nothing more than a catch up so that doing quests on them becomes easy breezy, most of them are still chilling in heirlooms
cunning fossil
I have no idea how they think getting 1 or two a month out is a good idea
Like
This shit has to be Bi weekly
rich elm
i been hearing all the rumors of "alpha this week DF alpha THIS WEEK"
im just like???? are y'all sure???
rain cave
I'm meming
ember blaze
yeah a lot of people have been anticipating at the minimum alpha news and alpha on the 14 or something
rain cave
That being said it might just drop out of the blue one day like preorders
And other trees
rich elm
we just suddenly get dropped... all the rest of the class trees
and we get no time to go through them cuz then alpha announcement lol
strange falcon
i meant on Twitter.com
twitter should not be taken as a reliable source of info
rich elm
never said i was taking it as reliable info
rain cave
bro I fuckin hate this current phase of news tho
rich elm
just that people all over there are acting like it actually is next week
rain cave
because I want the trees but we get no tease or whatever
so I'm fucked up checking wowhead every 10 minutes
rich elm
thats why we got the wowhead plugin here lol
if it turns white in that channel take a look see, nothing on dragonflight? ignore
strange falcon
so I'm fucked up checking wowhead every 10 minutes
do literally anything else instead, you'll be sure WAI will go full monkey when new trees come out
no need to waste your time checking wowhead every 10 mins
strange falcon
Hey fuck you D:<
what, i only said the truth xd
pulsar minnow
Well, I don't think we can throw our hopes of alpha out the window yet. After all, their Alpha/Beta stuff usually gets pushed on thursdays, not tuesdays
strange falcon
using WAI as the news reporter
he's very reliable, he only overdoses on hopium when news come out, so its easy to tell
strange falcon
Well, I don't think we can throw our hopes of alpha out the window yet. After al...
i havent seen tiridan in YEARS
pulsar minnow
Yeah I quit WoW for a while but I'm excited for the game again with DF
strange falcon
Yeah I quit WoW for a while but I'm excited for the game again with DF
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pulsar minnow
I didn't even touch 9.2 really
strange falcon
what did you quit wow for
rich elm
o/ hello, im just overall new to WoW