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them having to cater to china imo also limits what they can actually put in the game from that standpoint
so no wrathduin
fuck the chinese government*
specifically
china itself has good potential, there's some good stuff there
like the food
compared to american food i bet its better
?
gutter oil
there's a large underground market for frying oil
SO ALL THE VIDEOS IVE SEEN ARE LIES?
and a good chunk of it comes from people going to waste plants and skimming the oil from the top
THEY DONT HAVE REAL FOOD
and then heating it to try sterilize it
which is effectively saying 10% of people in china consume oil skimmed from waste plants
also asian physiology in general is actually less tolerant of milk
the conversation evolved here
no need to be passive aggressive just because you dislike me ๐
Well now it can โevolveโ into using #no-wow-discussion
if you don't want to listen to me I don't really think I should be expected to listen to you
I will, however
since I think this conversation has reached a decent culmination
o-o
everyone still talks abt wow in casual anyway
so casual being here isnt unlikely /gen
but anyway
We could talk about how alpha is likely to start in the next week or two. Iโm hoping to get in since Iโve been in the last 2
Probably 2023 for expac release
i want pre patch bcuz i can be dragon on pre patch
I'm hoping that because they said this has been in development for a long time, in a way that to me seemed as an intentional wink to the audience
I'm expecting a month still til alpha. But I was originally thinking 2-3 so 1 month is speedy
idk
First build is usually less than a month before alpha
i was surprised to hear them say theyve already been working on it
I think the first alpha is probably going to focus on technical stuff like profession and talent trees
and say far along
And we wonโt see any story stuff for a bit
Wasn't legion encrypted builds for weeks before public alpha
im assuming they just need to make sure everything is working and test shit like the dragon riding and things mrpeach said
But we might have access to the first zone so they can iterate on dragon riding
I think that was encrypted much earlier than normal but itโs hard to remember
that is rare
the way I see it, they wanted to announce it at a blizzconline before it was cancelled. So that sets the announcement video at being ready around febuary, before blizzconline cancelled and 9.2 probably internally delayed
so what they've marketed to us has been in the pipeline for a while I would guess
after all, the talent trees are already out of date they've said
hope to go to one someday
peach is gonna be our "man on the inside" to tell us if "wow bad" stocks rise or not, from alpha
conventions in general
The talent trees likely change massively every build
i liked seeing everyone being happy and hyped over the shit they showed in person
only convention I went to was london comicon and it was pretty depressing
That was how soul binds and legion artifacts were in early alpha
oh no someone said wow bad
post the gif
Massive changes between builds
There is a slight possibility that those videos were recorded back in January, but if that's the case I'd expect talents out already
Because the iteration out of the game canโt keep up with the in game iteration
yeah but they specifically said that an entire part of the tree was already iterated out
Canโt be - they referenced the leaks
They were likely recorded a few weeks before with the round table a few days before
Or they always know there's leak, or leaked it themselves
I'm moreso thinking the actual marketing material itself
who needs marketing when u have dragons
which has to probably be approved
Even then, with no leaks dragons were not a surprise
ofc not
also yeah tbf
now it all makes sense
bfa aotc, dragon pack, fae outfit of dragon faeiryt, new dragon pet
Dragon isles was nearly guaranteed
people were talking about dragon isles way before
im so happy
Iโm still surprised it wasnโt 9.0
i love dragons
That was my bet for 9.0
shadowlands ptsd
but then dragons would have been jailered
"murozond please put a shirt on"

primus is like "wait what he was bad? dude helped me out"
they said he can't see the timeways clearly right?
and that's why he's worried
im gonna cry whole xpac
wonder if they'll do it like a dementia story
i cried whole httyd series, i will cry whole dragonlands story
have him slowly fading into madness
I will say that the only other times I've really felt emotion at all from WoW in the modern setting was varian
the legion trailer, and his death
varien and ysera hit me
ysera not so much
since she wasn't that big in the story beforehand from what I can recall
she was important but just not really in a personal way
whereas Varian is just such a fucking chad
yea
PLEASE DONT KILL STONEBRO
stonebro was cute in the cinamatic
I wonder if he is actually the last one
i was so hyped
I wonder if they'll have him talk
because I personally like the idea of him just being silent
i prefer him not to talk
theres something abt him not talking that makes him unique
I love that moment where he wakes up, happy knowing the dragons are about to return
turning to his friend
and just realizing
"oh fuck"

when u log onto ur old xbox one day and see all those offline friends
the cinematic respects the viewer quite well I'd say
Koranos had more development in one cinematic than zovaal the entire expansion

why stop at zovaal, basically any shadowlands character
Nice
Christ what did I just miss?
Another "LOL Woke" devate?
Thank god
I personally just think it'd be cool if it were there. If it isn't fine I got fanfiction to tide me over.
Whatever actual relationship Anduin gets better be worth it then
While yeah maybe that is it... that's boring. I'd rather hum be able to chill and not have to be in a constant state of depression
Nah, I don't think anyone went lol woke. I said even if WoW is trying to be that, I don't think they have the guts to let Anduin hook up with Wrathion even if it's a fling like Kalec and Jaina
Trying to be woke he means
It's a corporation. I have a hard time trusting any of them being truly inclusive beyond them thinking it's good marketing and profitable
Woke is a wierd thing that doesn't actually mean much but if accurately used it means "way too accepting to be actual acceptance"
oh
Of course yes it is a company
bro idc just add more gay into game ๐
Fair tbh
like no matter if u try to put it in slowly or not ppl are gnona complain
I will atoll call them out on their Bullshit
Them making Flynn and Shaw Canon did not stop me from shutting on them and BFA
Lmao
Makes me wonder if Shaw waters down Flynn's alcohol
wrathion and anduin is cool and cute i want that please i may be obessessing but
cute headcanon
Better tipsy than blackout making out with a siren
Fair lmao
i fucking hated that quest ngl
i meant having to slow walk with fucking flynn but fair enough
it wouldn't really make sense anyways
How would it not make sense?
it can make sense
from enemies, to neutral, to friends, to lovers

wait a second
hang on u guys
why are we saying make sense when whole shadowlands did not make sense
The relationship is quite honestly Anduin's most likely and has the most chemistry than any other character Anduin would be with
The "it doesn't make sense" angle for this specific relationship honestly does not work
Like flat out. I know that Christie hated the idea and is trying to make Anduin straight as fuck
why
she hate homo?
jk
ykno wut
ima fuckin make a dragon name wrathduin
das it im doing it
I don't know why she REALLY . hated that the players got the vibe of gayness between the two
For some reason
When the entire expac was pretty much that
I don't really like the fauning over the relationship some people have
Even war crimes was them being endearing to each other
they're not real, why does a what if cause such a reaction
not everyone needs to be in a relationship but wrath and anduin is perfect 
Why not? I just think it'd be sweet.
i want more couples in the game it makes the game more engaging for me 
The same way we care about Arthas being a literal ball of Puff
and i really like wrathduin
Because we like the characters
like if it happens, it's fine to react to it then but living in fantasy land and letting it command emotion over you isn't worth it
trust me
I speak from experience
you can like the characters
but this isn't about that it's about fantasizing over the characters to some people
we don't live in it lol
I'll still rather ve hopeful for the relationship to happen until the writers sink the ship
The entire game is about fantasy and I would like to just hope for things to happen
ESPECIALLY since there is so much basis for it happening
Like it's not just a Crack ship
I think you're falsely equivilating fantasy in the sense of not being real to fantasy as a genre
He'll Flynn and Shaq had less screen time and THEY got together
yeah because time spend together = relationship
also for what it's worth now I'm imagining shaqeil o neil
lol wut
I mean, when Wrathion literally went "I can show you the world. Shining, shimmering, splendind" to anduin in war crimes
Like
What OTHER vibe do I get?
๐
good friends
thats rare
"Good Friends"
like friends are meant to love eachother, that doesn't make it romantic
don't care
good friends when ur "friend" tells u he will take u to other places and worlds
that is not "good friends" thats full on flirt and omg marry me plz
Then that's you
that's not a flirt lmao
I do somewhat
yes it is 
never been on a holiday with a friend?
i dont have any irl friends
or family?
ew no
Way to out you've never been flirted with lmao
then that explains a lot
A holiday with a friend or family goes like "Yo bro wanna come with me somwwhere?"
Not
i meant video game wise
no one irl can take u to another fuckin planet
also fur
this whole convo is useless
you're projecting

"I want to bring you on adventures that will leave your dad speechless"
Come
On
Guys

yikes
yeah this isn't healthy imo
who cares if its healthy if it makes me happy
I'm not attached to it
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I'm not debating if it should or shouldn't happen
they can do what they want with the characters
yea like they did with the jailer
I just experience what they make

What are u debating then? >->
I'm just saying don't get emotionally invested in a what if for a fantastical character
It just doesn't seem like that is the direction the writers are going with Anduin
to fur
weather it is or not and it happens or not, no harm in dreaming 
bruh
Are they gonna keep him to be the depressed goody two shoes soft boy then?
Because that's fucking BORING
Saint, calm your ass down. Shipping has been a thing since before you were born.
yeah and it never stopped being bad
and this is unhealthy if done too much
I won't comment further
Yeah, okay, you're the one not in touch with reality.
as I said

shipping isnt bad :<
I've given my 2 cents
its amazing
shipping gives me more to dream and draw abt
i want anduin and wrathion, wrathion comfort anduin plz make dat hpapen
The last 4 years of his life has been utter garbage

And that's messed up. And you can't just "Off screen therapy" your way to making it ok
Make him human.
Give him something to fight for
SomeONE to fight for
Who did you think I meant ;)
got it
Wrathion told my boy that you're gonna ride on my back and we'll explore the worls
Like damn
๐ ๐ฉ
and i do it, for him 
But yeah. I will stop it there since I know ow the convo makes people feel wierd
Ok that's cool though
not my art btw but yea 
and give them more subs
the community is toxic as all communities are 
im sure more ppl hated the shadowlands story than they would hate wrathduin being canon 
i keep making shadowlands jokes but its a joke in itself so its funny
An ez dub to the people who matter
i make myself laugh 
Besides. They probably never liked Anduin anyways. They don't want him happy :P
โ๏ธ
ill go get a job as a writer just to make him happy
Lmaoo
also wrathion and anduin both lost their dads
they can relate
one could change aladdin and jasmine with wrathion and anduin and the movie would still make sense with the "I will show you the word" line lmao
also the fact that anduin fell in love with her dwarven sword trainer
makes no sense
since they really didnt spend that much time together?
Wait who when?
he didnt fall in love with her
Who is that?
she doesnt matter if no one knows who she is

we must pretend that girl doesnt exists
im not wrong there was a line in before the storm maybe?
i will go horde and murder her oh wait im already horde
Randomly.likea his sword trainer?

like "she meant more for him than a friend "
LOL
she had a name
lies
good
who cares
it doesnt matter
Anduin isn't even good with sword work
this is the future
Like bruh
yea like just make animation of him saying FUCK UR SWORDS IM GOIN TO MY DRAGON
and she died in the cataclysm book?
oh she died
kinda foggy ngl

Nani wot I-
Oh so she's a non factor then?
If anything this just makes Anduin lean more into the Bi territory
Which is also fine
Doesn't change the fact that his chemistry is the best with Wrathion. Even objectively

LOL
this no name
NO PHOTO
yep
I have yet to see him engage with anyone else he could be romantically interesting in who has had as much chemistry with him as wrathion
Sooooo
I think her first apparition was in "the shattering: prelude to cataclysm"
wat
this is straight up nonsense https://gyazo.com/997ff7ae9d589d3266b11fd892a2c2cc
But like cmon
and? theyre just friends
I literally have never heard of her nor care
anduin being sensitive or whatever doesnt automatically make him gay
they are more
no one meant that
Who ever said anything about his sensitivity?
Never said thatlol
was the primary thing i saw in the forums
All I'm saying is that "I want to carry you on my dragon back and show you the world and have adventures together." Is literally not the straightest way to say "let's go kill some monsters bro"
^^
its a flirt
and its a hot one
id be on my fuckin knees if i had a femme dragon tell me dat
lol
Lmaoo
it took like 8 or so years for christie golden to say "oh yeah he thought of her as more than a friend"
LOL
Kek W
the shattering book released in October 19, 2010
if it took 8 yrs that is just a reason of herself to not like wrathduin
and not wanting to canon
before the storm was released June 12, 2018

Nearly 8 years kekw
Yeahhh
his butler was dying of old age
Yhat's shoehorn as fuck
worst rejection in history
u know why
also
Bro did it even go past that line?
I would like everyone here to remember
Did he keep thinking about her?
ok but who doesnt do that
cause her HANDS were pretty
HER HANDS
im going to find that moment
im crying
even if its the last thing I do
imagine going up to someone and asking them out and they ask why u like them one day and u just say, YOUR HANDS

what if she's a hand model
Lmao
Anduin has a hand kink, I shall henceforth call him Handuin
look at me holding this stone ball for this photograph
so beutiful
so majetstic
wrathions hands with claws 
idk what mount to go for first class halls r taking too long
Hmmm
mines just stopped giving me quests so i gave up ๐
wow
I'd say Shaman is neat
Oof
i mean its not gonna be hard
but i mean like cmon 10
UGHHH
my warrior is still on missions
gotta check my others
okay I searched it
and it wasnt exactly draenei hands
just her "beauty and grace"
Handuin must live on
the part of the fingers is what made me misremember
what the fuck does dry even mean to an emoji
hey I remembered other parts correctly
a small mistake in memory doesnt make me have a hand fetish
Kapp
ill take the blame on having the fetish
Look no one is shaming you
Why does jaina treat anduin like sheโs his mother.
I mean she is a friend of his father and has known him since little
maybe also a friend of his mother
yea
not sure
who was anduins mother
THEY HAD A SISTER
wait what
it appears i dunt no wut aunt means
She is just very close to the Wrynns. Doesn't have to be literally blood.
^
Like I grew up calling a close friend of my mom's "Aunt", and her kids were practically siblings, etc.
yeah basically that
The Dragon Isles are one of the biggest continents Blizzard has ever made. ๐
now that's what i like to see
Bigger doesnt equally mean better.
If the zones are massive, but they're empty, then why.
Thats a sin of most open world games(im not saying wow is one)
Where they make a massive map, but its mostly empty so there is no point in it, its just taking longer to traverse for the sake of it
This can be done well with games like witcher 3, elden ring, or zelda breath of the wild, but they're more the exception to the norm
yes, that is a concern of mine that i've expressed before but the fact that its larger zones focused on exploration. chances are these zone wont be empty and be large for the sake of being large.
but also its bigger than the OG map is whats most surprising to me
also they're using dragonriding
so they might have the core story take place on the ground area, maybe with scripted parts taking you up
but then exploring and such when you get your dragon allows you to get to another area entirely
regardless the zones will be bigger but won't feel like a chore to get around since we'll have fun flying from day 1
again, from how they explained it, we wont have the full kit of the dragonriding right away, and until we have definitive proof, people will call it "very cleverly hidden pathfinder"
every single thing they revealed, has at least one massive pitfall if not multiple that could make the entire system/announced thing dogshit
we really wont see wow bad stocks dropping until end of beta
eh, i like the fact we don't get true dragonflight until unlocking it whats the point of getting something if you don't get to progress it
sure,understandable, but if what we get day 1 is "glorified gliding" and we need to grind 4months for "semblance of GW2 flight" or have it locked until 10.2
then you can see how it isnt very fun anymore
and both the "wow good" and the "wow bad" camps are at a standstill because we really dont have anything atm, too many things are vague
trust me i'm fine with no flying until pathfinder.
why would they add a system only to gimp its functionality till a later patch especially when it's only for open world traversal lmao
nonsensical
sure we have to upgrade dragonriding
but it's like a talent tree or something
I doubt the major functionality will be held behind patches or months of grinding
sounds like something we'll just get as we play in the open world
i would not put that above blizzard to not do it tbf
considering their messaging regarding this whole expansion
it seems antithetical to their goals
the zones are designed for flying
im fairly sure they did it in the past, but i dont have examples off the top of my head so my point is moot
Doubt they will be larger than ek or kalimdor
i mean that's what they said in a interview unless blizz didn't make those zones
Maybe the size of Northrend or pandaria at best
yeah^
it is incredibly unlikely for them to be bigger than EK or kalimdor, and even assuming they are, then the "empty" concern is incredibly more likely
unless they meant to say any continent added to WoW but only time will tell
You don't need the "full" extent of a feature right off the bat.
As long as it doesn't feel horrible at the start, upgrading it will be rewarding
An interview said it is in fact larger than Northrend
I believe it was with Warcraft Radio??
Not sure which but I do remember them saying that
oh no WAI came in here with his tank of hopium
Oh shut up Daf
Unlike you, I want to at least be hopeful for the future of the game that I enjoy.
I'm not shilling for them
But I am being fair and providing my own opinions
shuuushhh, its okay for them to shit on the game but not okay for you to be hopeful shuuuusshhhh
I'm also just stating facts I've heard from interviews and the like. That's it
Highly doubt that will happen lol
The last expansions added the broken shore, kul tiras and zandalar if you remember
Islands.
I'm expecting dragon isles to be similar to them
Devs say a lot of things
They said so. We'll just have to wait and see
damn i was about to write that
this new bunnyguy seems pretty based
Yes
welp now i'm gonna check out
And that's all we have to go off of. So we kinda have to go on their word with a grain of salf
But not disregard it
I've been in too many games with Devs that didn't follow their word
We gotta stuck with these devs
oh dont worry, the devs of this game also have a terrible track record in regards to "following their words"
You can apply Yandere Dev logic to the WoW devs all the time lol
Can't*
I can't wait till Alpha so we get some solid info on physical things and stuff tbh. It'll help look at people's expectations
I hope dragonriding is a good feature since it could help make flying actually more engaging
Like GW2
Also, copying from other games and innovating/iterating on it is literally what made WoW and Blizzard so successful so I'm confused why everyone is complaining about "copying"
i mean, i imagine the upgrades MIGHT be
If it feels good erght off the bat, I don't think people will be too negative.
But yeah I hope they learned that account wide stuff is the way to go
I would say that the customizations don't have to be yeah
After all u probably don't want the same dragon over Andover on each charavter
they might just do it the same way as cypher system. one character is time gated the rest is instant unlocked if you have enough resources
So it incentivizes you to do different things on different characters
Sounds pretty good to be fair
The only shit thing is
The lock out
Please god may there be no 7 day wait
yeah, but i mean there was what 4 of those super long waits in cypher system. it wasn't that bad and since it was truly tied to power it wasn't bad but now alts be getting 252 gear in ZM isn't terrible
True that
But it still feels bad since it's like
"I earned the currency already. Why do I have e to wait a week?"
Any type of research that takes more than 24 hours, and even that is pushing it, needs to be taken out back and shot.
Huh.. That is NOT something I hear every day lol
Loll
research shouldn't be a thing anyway imo
any effective timegating should just be hard limited by your actual playtime
I'm paying to play, not to log off after setting something to research
I didnโt know you could unlock 252 gear ๐ค is that off research
^
the max rank being 6, you can see it when you check the cypher console out
top left
It scales the effects of bonuses on cypher gear too somewhat
How to train your dragon is trending on Netflix, must be everyone reading up on the lore for dragon isles
Lmak
When Dergonflew
Soonโข
Soon (TM)
They prolly did tbh
Given how much they seem to want to shove SL under the rug like wod,
Yeah this is likely
Considering how they talked about working on this expansion since many years..
I think too.
hope it pays off 
that's how every expansion works
as soon as one launches, a decent chunk of the dev team swaps off to start making the new zones and models
At the very least they've narrowed down even 11.0 to a couple ideas, if not already chosen
We know the devs admitted to abandoning wod for legion, so it isnt always to this extent
to speed it up as much as they could, but there's no way they built all those zones and models just since 9.2 zone and raid was finished on ptr
@strange falcon iwant it now, since ur doge and usually doge are magic u can mage us go future by 10 months plz
No
ill gib u 5000 million dollars
I hope for more infos this week...
praying for PTR build, but more likely tomorrow with that QnA
for 10.0?
9.2.5
i thought it was there already
new build
Uh uh ?
He's hoping for a new build
MISSION TABLES ARE DEAD
They were dead in 9.0 tho lmao
I seldom use the Mission Table in SL, hell even in BFA I didn't care for them
WoD was the only time I found them actually useful, maybe a bit of LEgion too
in WoD they were a money printing machine, as well as in legion, they were already feeling very useless in BfA, and SL were more for mounts only or some runes once a week
Garrison's themselves in WoD were money printing machines haha WoD was the XPac of getting rich, because there was nothing else to do
Iโm sad they gave up on tables. We never even got that one human the kyrians dropped into the maw.
They could have also boosted the xp gains
i think it was mostly a removal because, they are so desperately "throwing anything the players asked" at the wall, because they are scared of multiple things actually.
all the things they keep announcing do reek of desperation to me
not saying they arent, i'm just saying why they are announcing/doing these things, imo
it's like when that one guy that feels ontop of the world and has the ego larger than a mountain, gets a massive reality check and then he sees that he doesn't have the power to ignore what the players want anymore, and he's now like on the ground pleading "please come back, we'll do everything you asked for"
you're welcome for the mental image, a real good scene of this type is in the first season of Mob Psycho, watch it if you havent, great watch
I played in WoD and couldn't figure out how people made money with garrisons
I've always been poor in WoW
hope the profession revamp gets me into them so i can make bank
Alpha Soon, no TM
My guess is 1-2 weeks after Diablo immortal if not sooner
They likely want to handle any PR or streamer attention from that before distracting from it with alpha
IMO, definitely no later than early June
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Could be sooner but I think we will see a burst of builds on the dev server leading up to it
Yeah true
Also when 9m2.5 then?
Because they gotta put 9.2.5 on live before 10.0 goes in PTR?
nope
How so?
beta are separate servers/clients
like near the end of beta we'll have the 10.0 beta and the 10.0 ptr at once
@cunning fossil As you can see there are both, the PTR (9.2.5) and the Dev (10.0.0), they are already concurrent at the moment, they don't have to wait
Well I couldn't see before cuz I don-/ have that info/know where to find it
But now I do thanks
Well damn :(
Oks
Anyways 9.2.5 in like
Probably 4 months right?
Because IIRC 9.2.5 launched in February?
Or am I dumb
Wouldnt be weird they said they'd want patc hto be around 6 to 8 months
Uh... If it takes them 4 more months to get 9.2.5 out.. Yiiiikes
It took 8months for 9.1, and another 8 for 9.2 just 4 months is not unusual
4-5 months is an extreme for PTRs
Typically they last no more than 2-3 months
And that's between the BIG .1/.2/.3 patches. I'm pretty sure it's even shorter for the .5 patches
Reward boxes from Callings now contain twice as many Grateful Offerings, still scaling with your covenant sanctumโs Anima Conductor level.
The Zereth Mortis weekly quest โPatterns Within Patternsโ now awards Grateful Offerings.
YAAAAAY
JELLY CAT
Iโm upset jelly cat is not something you can come back to unlock
Thatโs very upsetting
I hope they add a recolor or something
Still hoping we get a caterpillar mount one day
I like the social contract concept
even if all that is in the ToS already
Perhaps having it shorter people might read
yeah
and now it's very clear what is and isn't grounds for termination I think
no more N or F word alterations in trade chat bois
Bah, I had hoped account wide covenant stuff would include the buildings
yea jellycat locked behind raids because fuck casual players amirite
it's LFR based on the wording
The title is heroic, the portals are mythic
hmm, they really bugged the covenant stuff actually
i cant play the game knowing i dont have that mount that iwas waiting for abt a year 
i was praying store mount
because atleast everyone can get it
lets hope cat mount is lfr cause i don't want to have to find a guild again ๐ฆ
ill have to fully gear and learn how to do raiding in 10 months when i have 0 experience
thats gonna be fun if its not lfr

let alone feral druid mains never get invited
i mean, normal isn't bad just depends in the affix that we are getting whatever fated is
I mean pugging normal wouldn't be that bad
but it is bad
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i have 0 experience 
i really just wanted to spend 25 bucks and done
or atleast mythic+ cuz that i can do
normal is barely one step up from lfr
yea everyones saying its ez but i highly doubbt it
thats the thing
i just pray lfr otherwise i once again have 0 faith in casual content for blizzard
normal is casual ๐
its not 
you dont even need a guild for it
no but my problem is i have no experience and im a feral druid
stuck at 251 ilvl
no one wants me
idk man, the last guild i was in keep wiping on sire D cause our tank didn't understand why the healers couldn't keep him alive while he TURNED around and walk into the mirror when Mr. D is slapping him in the back
you have experience if youve done LFR
sure
naw its true
unless youre one of those that ports in, dies on purpose and afks
no
or just clicks the boss and auto attacks
most ppl dont even count lfr as experience tho from wut ive seen
then again all of my "friends" are on EU
so idk
the point is for your to understand the mechanics
like lfr->normal is like just things hit harder and mechanics actually will one shot you
understanding mechs
thats gonna be a pain inthe ass
i have to like read it 50 times to even understand part of it :l

but you KNOW them if you've gone through lfr
but you do the things yes?
if the jailer rune targets you, what do you do
or the teleporter boss
no idea on jailer
i died by accidentally walking into one of the holes
literally before he aws even pulled i died 
i just skimmed through normal and you can find groups that dont require kills
some want easy one shots if theyre on alts or whatever
but you can avoid those groups
i guess
trust me when i say some of the people in those groups dont know shit about the fight
but theyre in there
yea probably
that or you can go sign up on the waitlist for those community runs
cat mount might be normal or lfr
they are making the LFR UI work for fated at least
ill tell em im a single mom 3 kids not enough time to do raiding other than lfr
;lu

oh this build really borked up covenant swapping
just bugs I'm sure
oh
i've been meaning to swap and level the the other ones but i'm so lazy ๐ฆ
swap covenant and it doesn't remember your other soulbinds at all
ridiculous that prog isnt acc wide ๐
that was last build
my poor maxed out buildings for characters i dont play anymore
this build they doubled all the wings and slapped a 240 ilvl requirement
bug report about covenant swapping being messed up submitted
wtf how many wings do they need
they aren't going to remove the unfated versions I guess
yea why would they lol
well as it stands Fated is a default affix that swaps each week.
so like
every week, theres one affix and its the same affix for each raid?
and it changed every week
One raid is affixed and that rotates
or is it different per raid
so first week is Nathria, next week Sanctum, etc
yea ik but
wait
wait i think i messed up
the affix just swaps to the different raid, i mistaked i thought there were 3 affixes
there's 4 actually. I think they go to bosses most suited to it
ok now im even more confused
im sorry ik i should be understanding it
but wut i mean is, does each raid like, say, sanctum had affix, is it gonna be a different affix for the septuchar one that same week or will all raids have the same affix, llike i dont unedrstand 
it's a bit complex
or does the affix only go to one raid per week
and swaps throughout 4 random affixes
There's 4 different affixes that do different things. One raid will be Fated and those 4 affixes will be split up among the bosses.
my stupid brain doesnt get shit most normal ppl understand
each week the raid that is fated swaps
oh the affixes are based on bosses
ok ok thank u
i get itnow
im pray they keep the lfr bcuz ik their high end players will complain abt us people who do lfr getting shit
They haven't actually tested fated yet
Limited Currency...
LIMITED_CURRENCY_PURCHASE (New) - This item costs %s. After this, you'll only be able to spend %d more %s.|n|n Are you sure you want to exchange %s for this item?
LIMITED_CURRENCY_PURCHASE_FINAL (New) - This is your final %s to spend. After this, the %s merchants will leave.|n|n Are you sure you want to exchange %s for this item?
Also, new store thingy of some sort
VAS_TOKEN_TOOLTIP_STATUS_NO_CHARACTERS (New) - You don't have any eligible characters on this realm.
VAS_TOKEN_TOOLTIP_STATUS_REVIEW (New) - Your order is being processed. Please check back later.

wait
pre patch for df maybe?
idk
why would they limit time a currency other than pre patch
well a limited currency where you can spend and then it goes away could be interesting in keys and such
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Could work with Disguised, find a disguised broker hiding in the dungeon, and then buy some stuff off it
What could the "VAS_TOKEN" be in the other strings ?
perhaps it's a merging of all "Value Added Services"
@uncut lintelis that your art
I highkey like the Fated Raids system for 9.2.5
Actually gives you a reason to run the older raids in the tier outside of glam
its huge
and they could expand it
like how they;'re doing with the dungeon rotation
what if they had 2 raids per season that had content that was relevenat?
1 current and 1 old raid per season
would be fucking awesome
That might be a bit too much, l do like a last patch epilogue that makes them all relevant again
Guilds wouldn't want to run 20+ bosses a week
absolutely not.
no thanks
Yes fucking please
ToT or Ulduar?! Fuck yeah
Even ICC
My god fuck yes please
why would they need to run 20 bosses a week? You dont have to kill them all
you could choose one raid one week and the other the next
sure meta slaves might
for most people I dont see why you would do 20 bosses
I liked when I could raid emerald nightmare and nighthold at the same time for relevant gear
and highmaul+brf
and another thing they could do if that was unpopular
is basically halving the season for pve time
keep the pvp season as long as it is now
but say make a season for pve 3 months
and after 3 months the p2 of season 1 starts
and has an old raid with the current
but make it not a real new season
but half way into season add an old raid
because you cannot tell me there are people still raiding the current raid after 3 months on their main other than mythic and late heroic progression guilds
If you had 20 bosses all dropping the same ilvl gear people will kill all 20 to maximize loot
Even Blizzard is aware of of that by them likely rotating the active raid each week on s4
yeah but not everyone is gonna do that
if great vault stays the same with capping at 8 bosses
then people other than the meta slaves wont care
it'll just be more variety on raid night
personally I think most people wouldn't care
I don't see people spamming every mythic+ dungeon every day to maximize loot

its just a sign that she puts personal prefs into game

