beta-ptr-spoilers

[uncut lintel]

lol why

[rain cave]

I like in the UK and play on US servers

[uncut lintel]

wyh join vc if ur not gonna do anything

thats kinda sus

[rain cave]

my pickings are slim even if I found somebody else at my uni who plays WoW

[glass flicker]

You're just being edgy at this point for the sake of it.

[strange falcon]

Gamer moment

[rain cave]

in case I want to talk

[ember blaze]

why

[rain cave]

but usually I deafen to watch something else

[uncut lintel]

i dont understand anything this guy is saying at ths point

[rain cave]

used to live in china, old WoW friends live in US and AUS

[uncut lintel]

hes gonna cry when we have to level 60-70 in next xpac

[rain cave]

no I can level that

[glass flicker]

Yup.

[uncut lintel]

let me make a joke D:

[rain cave]

because it's new

and looks interesting

[uncut lintel]

joke ruined

[glass flicker]

And boost your alts from 60 to 70 by spending money.

[uncut lintel]

LMFAO

[rain cave]

they won't do that until 11.0

or preorder for it

so

[uncut lintel]

omg

ur not denying it

[rain cave]

wdym

denying what

[uncut lintel]

plz dont do that like paying to boost 10 lvls

[rain cave]

?

I can't?

[uncut lintel]

no but if u could

or can later

dont

[rain cave]

I wouldn't?

[uncut lintel]

oh good

good cat

[rain cave]

1 or 10 to 60 is just such a mountain to climb and I'm just reminded of everything else I could be doing instead of sucking my soul out levelling

[uncut lintel]

dragons start off at58 so im hyped

[ember blaze]

why would it matter if they did

[uncut lintel]

its a quick way to go poor irl

[ember blaze]

10-60 is not that bad

[rain cave]

I just don't understand why I'm being hounded for not enjoying levelling when so much of the community already agrees with me

[ember blaze]

you cant even finish an expac

[uncut lintel]

"so much of the community"

when ive only seen like maybe 5 ppl complain abt the qusetion

[glass flicker]

What community agrees with you? So far, everyone disagreed.

[uncut lintel]

now id understand if it was like ykno 1-120

that shit was bs

[rain cave]

it's almost like there's a certain demographic who talks in this server

[uncut lintel]

but now naah its nice

[ember blaze]

the people against it have just done it multiple times already

so it's understandable

[glass flicker]

Good grief.

[rain cave]

I just don't want to run through WoD for the fucking 8th time

[uncut lintel]

u can quest whereever u want, and if u wanna change zones or xpacs u can no restrictions, its just nice

[ember blaze]

that or they just hate rpgs and only care about instanced content

[rain cave]

I love RPG's

[glass flicker]

Then don't.

[rain cave]

levelling isn't RPG like

[glass flicker]

Legion's fine.

[uncut lintel]

tbf i do hate gorgrond so ir efuse to do that another time

[rain cave]

I did legion a ton as well

[glass flicker]

MoP is fine, too.

[uncut lintel]

LEGION ZONES ARE COOOL

[rain cave]

not done MoP, but depends on what levels we're talking

[uncut lintel]

wish suramar was a lvling zone tho :<

[ember blaze]

you can level to 50 with legion table ☕

[uncut lintel]

woundt that take like 2 months

[strange falcon]

Sucking, is something blizz has had a lot of practice with in recent years

[ember blaze]

so you havent leveled in mop before?

[rain cave]

I didn't play MoP

[ember blaze]

what else didnt you play

[rain cave]

wrath I guess?

I only did some of wrath

[ember blaze]

but this kinda goes against what youve said earlier

[strange falcon]

This server isn't a valid demographic for statistical purposes, sample size too small

[rain cave]

how so

[ember blaze]

because from what I understood

[rain cave]

I want to level fast

[ember blaze]

one of your issues is that you've done some content multiple times already

[rain cave]

legion and WoD, even BfA are good for that since they are hyper focused

[ember blaze]

and you dont mind leveling in content that is new and you havent done before

[rain cave]

issue with older zones is that they are just so bloody big and I have no flying

[uncut lintel]

well the only thing i can say is, that this is mostly a personal problem, i disagree with u boosting unless u pre order but wutever u can say thes ame with me buying mounts, but most people level and enjoy questing i rarely see anyone hate questing since its so ez and fast now yea u can think of the shit at max lvl u could be doing but ur also just redoing the same shit u already did anyway at max level on ur alt, so idk the point, but sucks that u cant find one of the best things in wow fun let alone chill, getting in the zone when ur questing is so nice u_u

[ember blaze]

and youve done wod 8 times

[rain cave]

like imagine going to hellfire citadel

fucking hell that place

walking simulator

[ember blaze]

hellfire citadel is a good place for questing though

it has a large amount of quests everywhere

[rain cave]

it's a barren desert

mostly

[ember blaze]

one tiny area gives you like 5

[rain cave]

can probably auto walk for a good few minutes and not find anything

in certain places

[uncut lintel]

i usually quest like 1-40 in azeroth, go to wod spires for 40-50 due to 20% buff

its fast

[rain cave]

what 20% buff?

[strange falcon]

Foxy posting anything longer than 2 lines is rarer than blizzard actually making a good system, you really hit the jackpot there, saint

[uncut lintel]

u get a 20% xp buff in spires of arak for the inn

[ember blaze]

20% buff from what

[uncut lintel]

and it stacks with warmode

[ember blaze]

does wod still have those xp pots?

[uncut lintel]

?

its an inn not a pot

[ember blaze]

im not talking about your inn

[uncut lintel]

._. u asked me from what

[ember blaze]

yeah and you answered

[uncut lintel]

u build the inn and not the other one for ur first like small garrison in spires

and it gives u a 20% permanent xp buff

yea i answered just now at 4:30

[ember blaze]

your garrison used to have an xp pot you could buy

[uncut lintel]

i wouldnt know that i rarely go to my garrison

and when i played wod i did fuckall

mostly roleplay

[ember blaze]

well this was there in legion and bfa im pretty sure

it was a 20%? xp boost

[uncut lintel]

yup and in legion i spent all my time in class hall and in bfa i spent all my time in zuldazar or ogrimmar

[ember blaze]

I had to level in wod while walking so i did a lot

[uncut lintel]

i remember leveling my old toon in wod but christ i legit dont know what else i did other than buying aotc

i was younger back then no brain

[uncut lintel]

im just saying he says he doesnt wanna do shit leveling for 8 times in arowbut he will do it 8 times in a row at max level

which means this whole argument was useless

[rain cave]

what

[uncut lintel]

FUCK no mount

[upper pasture]

as most conversations on this channel tend to be

[uncut lintel]

[subtle oar]

[rain cave]

it's a pointless argument, since demo is just trying to say "your opinion wrong I like levelling therefore it's good"

[uncut lintel]

HI WYNTER

[rain cave]

that's my understanding

[subtle oar]

Hoi Foxy

[rain cave]

I was just saying I don't like levelling

[uncut lintel]

that was not what i meant bigsaint

-_-

[rain cave]

it's almost like I didn't mention you lol

[uncut lintel]

oh

well i assumed

[rain cave]

nw

[cosmic beacon]

[uncut lintel]

i was the last one to respond

[rain cave]

ye I get it

nw nw

we cool

[uncut lintel]

i accidentally had a panick attack i thought i called u bigshit by accident

[rain cave]

not far off tbh

[uncut lintel]

instant ban 4 me

[rain cave]

fr?

[uncut lintel]

probably

[rain cave]

wait that would get you banned LMAO

[uncut lintel]

i have like 2 strikes

or maybe 3

idk

[rain cave]

I don't have strikes here but I've been banned from many a server so I can relate

[ember blaze]

what have you been doing wtf

[rain cave]

probably nothing intentional

if my experience is to go by

[cosmic beacon]

bigshits

[uncut lintel]

honestly at this point idk wut ive done, i remember one yrs ago where we argued with a weird vegan but thats the only one i remember 🤔

[upper pasture]

at least they tell you when you get a strike?

[glass flicker]

At least try to make that believable.

[subtle oar]

What fresh hell is going on?

[uncut lintel]

gordan ramsey said he wants some good fucking food

[rain cave]

@subtle oar demo is being unnecessarily aggressive

[glass flicker]

The freshest, love.

[uncut lintel]

ykno wut i want?

[subtle oar]

He ain't getting it

[uncut lintel]

a bag of chips

im getting 2 bags tommorow

[subtle oar]

I only make dogshit I like uwu

[cosmic beacon]

bag of chips? how can you have a bag when you need to cook them first

[upper pasture]

some people like leveling (they think it good) some people hate leveling (they think it bad)

[cosmic beacon]

at that point u put them on a plate

[glass flicker]

I'm having a shawarma now.

[strange falcon]

"Lvling bad" vs "lvling braindead so lvling not that bad"

[rain cave]

kek

[subtle oar]

Lol

[glass flicker]

Precisely.

[uncut lintel]

dued i got a bag 2 days ago and ate it in an hour watching the stream IMDESPERATE I NEED HIS IM GONAN DIE

[subtle oar]

I like leveling and I think the talent revamp will put a lot of the fun of lvling back into the game

[strange falcon]

Foxy being overdramatic counter : 18

[subtle oar]

You'll look forward to each time you ding again

[rain cave]

I disagree

the only ding I look forward to is max lvl

[glass flicker]

Bad mindset.

[subtle oar]

You're full of bad hot takes, so I'm not surprised at all

[rain cave]

well I don't get any meaningful rewards lower than that

[glass flicker]

I will hug you.

[strange falcon]

Sigma grindset,
Hey it rhymes too

[upper pasture]

anddd welcome to why the change is good

[subtle oar]

Do it

Am fluffy

[rain cave]

I'm really not, I just think that I stick out in the demographic in here

[glass flicker]

Hugs the fluffy

[rain cave]

how so

[glass flicker]

Thanks for the retort.

[subtle oar]

:D!

[upper pasture]

because each level rewards you with things now instead of every 10/15 levels or at max. like sure the big stuff will be at 70 but you're gonna get stuff every level again

[rain cave]

wdym

talents aren't rewards to me

[upper pasture]

this isn't a hard concept

[glass flicker]

Bad mindset.

[subtle oar]

[rain cave]

talents are core features

that's how I see it

[upper pasture]

honestly idk why i try anymore

[rain cave]

this is how blizzard designs it not me

[subtle oar]

That reward you each time you ding

[uncut lintel]

dafire miscounting my overreacts

[subtle oar]

C:

[uncut lintel]

i a atleast at 500 mark daf

[ember blaze]

it offers some good progression for leveling

[rain cave]

somebody rips out all your teeth and give them back to you for every wall of paint you watch dry

[glass flicker]

501. But who's counting?

[rain cave]

sweet rewards bro!

[uncut lintel]

deez nutz

[rain cave]

finally I unlocked the ability to eat

[ember blaze]

but i wouldnt call the talents meaningful rewards

[uncut lintel]

lMFAO

please reach level 10 to learn to drink water

by level 4 ur just dead

das funny

[subtle oar]

XD

[rain cave]

the gameplay whilst levelling should be fun as well

[uncut lintel]

it is tho

[rain cave]

not just feeling like I'm spamming 1 button

[glass flicker]

Then don't play DH.

[rain cave]

in nothing close to a full class

[uncut lintel]

im so confused

[subtle oar]

You gonna be Feral/Balance or Feral/Bear, Foxy?

[uncut lintel]

NO

[ember blaze]

@uncut lintelsome things are pretty barren

[uncut lintel]

IM GONNA BE A FUCKING DRAGON

[subtle oar]

Cx

[uncut lintel]

FUCK MY DRUID ILL DELETE THEM ALL FOR THE DRAGONS

[subtle oar]

Lmfao

You don't mean that

You love your kitties too much

[uncut lintel]

no

i mean it

[glass flicker]

Foksi becoming Skalie intensifies.

[uncut lintel]

dargon is new mane

[ember blaze]

same 😎

[subtle oar]

X3

[uncut lintel]

wait i cant delete them

im so stupid i need mount +1 runs

[subtle oar]

Lol

[uncut lintel]

they have instant blue proto drake farm

well not farm cuz it wont drop on normal

[glass flicker]

I will make an Evoker but not max it.

[uncut lintel]

i brb i gtg pee

oh fuc y did isay tat out loud

this isnt donkerland

[glass flicker]

Enjoy.

[rain cave]

I could see evoker being a new main

not even just because new class

it genuinely looks fun from the design we've seen

[ember blaze]

it aint build and spend so

[rain cave]

if it plays anything like some of the HotS designs for healing, I could even see myself healing in it

[strange falcon]

Riveting gameplay

[glass flicker]

It looks confusing. What would its DPS mastery be, do you reckon?

[rain cave]

wdym

DPS

oh

you mean the stat?

[glass flicker]

Do you know what the mastery stat is?

[rain cave]

yes

that's why I said it

[glass flicker]

Christ.

[rain cave]

the conversation just pivoted quickly

[subtle oar]

Lol I forgot about that place.

[rain cave]

had to catch up

[strange falcon]

Foxy gonna complain literally the minute after this, that she doesnt have magetower kitty anymore

[rain cave]

mastery could relate to the charging mechanic?

perhaps

or maybe it's to do with the different damage types

[glass flicker]

Likely. But I don't see it.

[strange falcon]

Doesnt have a tank spec, so even if i were still playing, i wouldnt main it,
I only main all 3 role classes

[glass flicker]

Maybe it's a flat damage increase like for frost DK. Pure frost damage dealt.

[rain cave]

if they're about weaving a bunch of different damage types together, their mastery could be about that

maybe you can talent in to extra benefits for your mastery

change the element it buffs

[glass flicker]

Unlikely.

[rain cave]

but that sounds a bit out there

[strange falcon]

You could screenshot this and use it as a reaction image to every question

[glass flicker]

It's probably arcane.

[uncut lintel]

i was rlly hoping they werent locked 1 class but then theh ealer spec is also using druid green emerald magic so that will hold my druid urge

[rain cave]

maybe they do more of that new damage type in 9.2

cosmic damage

[uncut lintel]

after my dragon becomes my new main ill gear and lvl my druid

[glass flicker]

Maybe they will add a brand new damage type.

Ancient damage.

[strange falcon]

Their mastery is most likely the "charge spells" mechanic

[uncut lintel]

no

add a tank spec to them

idc if its 3 patches later

[rain cave]

that's what I said

ranged tank spec?

lol

[uncut lintel]

give them druid like spells ykno for stronger scales and shit

[strange falcon]

They dont have the creativity to make that work

[glass flicker]

I'm down for a tank spec that uses pet aggro.

[uncut lintel]

then ur not tanking

ur pet is

[glass flicker]

Ye.

[rain cave]

it would cheese mechanics design wise too

it could be done I guess but

[ember blaze]

how would you even balance that?

[rain cave]

how would they do the tank mechanics like taking shit out

soaking

[ember blaze]

how does tanking at long range even make sense

[uncut lintel]

it doesnt

i said tank spec bcuz meelee

all of thos eideas i see r dumb

[glass flicker]

Maybe by making damage split between the tank and pet

[ember blaze]

at that point it's like BFA where your frost mage was the one pulling aggro from the 100 mobs you pulled in TD

while you took 0 dmg

[uncut lintel]

LOL

[rain cave]

yeah but there's the soulforge guy in sanctum for example

he puts a bomb on the tank

and he has to take it out

how would that work

does the actual tank get it?

or the pet

if the tank gets it, he ignores the mechanic partially

if the pet gets it, you have to order the pet to move

[ember blaze]

though it's weird that they excluded the black dragons from the powers

[rain cave]

both aren't ideal for core class design

[rain cave]

don't think they have fully

that might just be some of the core class utility/defensives

but the specs specifically channel other aspects as their fantasy

[ember blaze]

it's just a missed opportunity for a tank spec

but i guess we've had too many tanks released

[rain cave]

yeah

[glass flicker]

Well. Ion said evokers use all 5 powers at once.

[uncut lintel]

wwhen was our last tank

[rain cave]

they wanted to make a ranged class

[ember blaze]

legion

[rain cave]

and tank dilutes that

[uncut lintel]

so like5 yrs ago

[glass flicker]

Maybe the black dragon powers are used by max level spells.

[uncut lintel]

recent

so we will maybe see a new tank in another 5 yrs

[ember blaze]

Dk, dh, monk

[uncut lintel]

druid

warrior

[ember blaze]

new

[uncut lintel]

im offended

[ember blaze]

every new class had a tank spec

[uncut lintel]

oh

[rain cave]

the only new tank I could see is new specs for old classes

[uncut lintel]

true

[rain cave]

shaman tank anyone

[uncut lintel]

PLEAS

E

[ember blaze]

theyd have to be creative with a new tank

[glass flicker]

I don't see evokers getting a tank spec. We have never had a tank in mail. Pre Legion lowbies don't count.

[rain cave]

while we're at it allow 2 handed enhance for Nth time blizzard

[uncut lintel]

how do u get creative with a tank tho

all u do is go ahead of grp, take taunt, take dps, and healerk eeps u alive

[ember blaze]

blood is a vampire

made of paper

[glass flicker]

What they could do, however, is make outlaw rogue a Parry tank.

All they do is Parry.

[rain cave]

then one of the other specs has to be diluted then

[glass flicker]

Remove stealth from them, replace it with something like Swashbuckler's Guile.

[ember blaze]

monk you have this dodge mechanic

and spin around

[rain cave]

unless you mean adding a new spec

[glass flicker]

Which taunts and causes the next 3 attacks to be parried.

[rain cave]

called outlaw again

and calling outlaw combat

like old times

[ember blaze]

monk is already your rogue tank

[glass flicker]

I guess.

[rain cave]

I wanted DH to be cloth

😦

[glass flicker]

I wanted DH to be mail.

But we got evokers so eh

[rain cave]

DH mail doesn't make much sense to me

[ember blaze]

hunters should have been mail

[rain cave]

illidan just wears a pair of cloth trousers

so cloth makes sense

[glass flicker]

I mean, it's still light and you do need armor against demon behemoths.

[rain cave]

mail doesn't look light

[glass flicker]

Even Illidan gets hurt.

[uncut lintel]

im having ptsd do when i thought mail meant i could only be gender male to wear it

[ember blaze]

makes more sense for the melee to have beefy armor

instead of the long ranged one

[rain cave]

which is why I think cloth DH is so interesting

make a melee clothy

[uncut lintel]

cloth dh mobs would be hot

mogs

fuckin hell why cant i teype

[glass flicker]

I'll do you one better. Why are shamans wearing mail?

[uncut lintel]

because it makes, sense?

wait no it doesnt

[rain cave]

because they don't wear plate and they don't wear leather

[uncut lintel]

lightning like chain mail

they can shock theirselfs

[rain cave]

shamans are akin to clerics

heavy casters

[glass flicker]

Now you're taking DnD

[rain cave]

which WoW is inspired by

[uncut lintel]

DnD?

[rain cave]

lol

[glass flicker]

Dungeons and Dragons.

[rain cave]

Dungeons and Deeznuts

[uncut lintel]

NO WONDER WOW LORE HAS SO MANY DRAGONS

THEY STOLE IT

[glass flicker]

I mean...

[uncut lintel]

dont deny

[glass flicker]

Most RPG games can start from a D&D campaign.

[uncut lintel]

i go by the words

of asmongold

they are back to what they do best, and thats taking other ideas, from other games, and making them better

[glass flicker]

Even I play D&D. I'm a DM at the moment, but I used to be a half orc barbarian. Berserker, obviously.

I would like to rage.

[rain cave]

not a huge fan of asmongold, mainly because of his community

[uncut lintel]

HIS COMMUNITY IS A BUNCH OF BALLSACKS

[rain cave]

but then again he does kind of enable them in some way

[uncut lintel]

i hate his stupid community they are so toxic

but i like asmongold

[rain cave]

I just dislike how people hold his opinion up as gospel

like

[uncut lintel]

ye

[rain cave]

he goes on monologues about what he thinks, fair enough

I do that

but then people repost it all over like

[uncut lintel]

i dont get the idea of ppl having fun on dungeon and dragons due to it being a table top paper board game

[rain cave]

"ASMONGOLD SPITS FACTS"

[glass flicker]

I was kicked from his Discord for quote, unquote, "Calling someone's transmog a bit gay"

Which I did not.

I just said it sucks outright.

[uncut lintel]

most of wut he says is fair tho and makes sense ppl are just idiots in his chats

i mean

transmogs are kinda gay 😏

[rain cave]

I got kicked from accolons discord for being slightly sarcastic with an admin after he disagreed with me

[uncut lintel]

glad idk who he is

[glass flicker]

Asmongold is an honest asshole. I like his shenanigans.

[rain cave]

same admin/mod then messaged people in pyromancers discord and got me banned there as well

kek

[glass flicker]

Also, Accolon is an asshole. But he's not like Asmongold.

[rain cave]

discord moderator moment

[glass flicker]

It's okay to be an asshole. Just be honest and correct.

[uncut lintel]

ik most ppl dont like asmon for his community some even for hisself, but asmongold is one of reasons i smile every day tbh, his vids r so funny

[glass flicker]

Did you watch his Vampire Survivors plays?

[proud wharf]

Asmongolds existence causes laughter

The people who watch him and worship him dont

Just like all things

Fans are usually more annoying then the thing they enjoy

[uncut lintel]

mostly his wow content i watch but if i get really bored and wanna snack on something ill watch his other stuff

[glass flicker]

I stopped watching streams, but I still watch him on YouTube for background noise while I do Zereth Mortis dailies for that goddamn exalted rep.

[uncut lintel]

the one of the recent vids had me rolling, abt that mysterious dark wow secrete

[glass flicker]

cough

[uncut lintel]

yea i dont like watching his streams alot unless its like a transmog comp or a mount off duely bcu i fucking hate twitch

[glass flicker]

I hope I can make it to his EU comp someday.

[uncut lintel]

which mog would u use

[glass flicker]

The one I showed you with the human female.

Or I've got another undead male for Horde.

I can honestly go either way.

[deep pawn]

Accolon talked about wrath today, said he'd play it like tbcc, get to 40, get bored then quit

But still disagreed when I said it needed lfd

[rain cave]

xd

[deep pawn]

Didn't ask why he got bored

[dense plover]

I’m excited to try Wrath classic

I started in wrath and got to mid 70s on my Druid before Cata came out and I got confused because I didn’t really know what happened

[subtle oar]

I too started in Wrath, so I'm def excited. I hope it drops Sept/Oct, giving us months to play before Dragonflight

[ancient jasper]

I'd be more excited for Wrath if Blizzard didn't arbitrarily decide they were going to nuke LFD, screw with Dual Spec and then lie through their teeth about it being because of the community.

[subtle oar]

It is due to the community tho.

[ancient jasper]

Uh... Doubt. VERY doubt.

[subtle oar]

How so? The Classic community has been very outspoken against things like LFD, even causing enough backlash about an addon that tried to replicate it that Blizz killed the addons functionality

[ancient jasper]

Yeah you might wanna check the Forums, Reddit and other Social Media websites for how "popular" this decision has turned out to be so far.

I wanna see this supposed information that Blizzard has showing that people don't want LFD.

Funny that they'll never show it

[rain cave]

I mean it could just be a case of exactly what kyle's pointing out

[ancient jasper]

Also beyond hilarious that Blizzard can say out of one side of their mouth that the LFD tool hurts the community but then add paid boosts to the game..

[rain cave]

of people not liking it who aren't playing

[uncut lintel]

the first part of the cinamatic with the sword forming and voices made me wanna play it, then i rememberd, oh rite its classic 😏

[subtle oar]

Do it

[uncut lintel]

no

[subtle oar]

ye

[uncut lintel]

no

[subtle oar]

ye

[uncut lintel]

wotlk doesnt have playable dragons

[subtle oar]

But you can play it until the xpac comes out

[uncut lintel]

no

[ancient jasper]

Play FFXIV Free Trial. Unlimited play time all the way up until 60 including the base game and the entire first Expansion AND it has playable Semi-Dragons.

There. Boom. Free time eliminated until Dragonflight launches lol

[ember blaze]

i thought this was that one meme

[ancient jasper]

I didn't feel like doing the whole copy-pasta lol

[rain cave]

fInAl FaNtAsY 14

[dense plover]

Wrath was when a majority of the QoL was introduced - including LFD. I expect some form of it to end up introduced due to player feedback or for something to change in that regard, but a lot of the other stuff like good quest tracking and a more modern mini map started in Wrath

[rain cave]

also considering wrath was when subs were highest you'd think they'd think that wrath's level of QoL was fine ^

[uncut lintel]

:< everytime we talk abt old shit i just get sad bcuz of nostalgia

[ancient jasper]

Yep the sub numbers stayed solid until slightly after the launch of Cata. Then they started falling

[ember blaze]

isnt the focus of the expac really popular in wow lore 🤔 i assume that was a big drive to a lot of people playing

and new class

[deep pawn]

A lot of people were waiting for wrath with the qol

It'll depend on if blizzard wants the wrath babies playing or focus on the current community for the 2 years

Who knows which they'll think will stay longer

I know a lot of classic types want a 2019 classic to launch again

[dense plover]

It’s very possible they do split realms - some with LFD and some without

I probably won’t play without LFD

I’m not queuing for hours and then have to show im skilled just to run a basic dungeon. I’m busy irl and just want to play

Idk if any of my friends are even going to play so without LFD I’m sorta fucked

[ember blaze]

what is the connection between community and lfd

[ancient jasper]

Blizzard blamed the Community for deciding to remove LFD from WotLK Classic.

[ember blaze]

well i heard the same thing in classic

but i dont get what's special about spamming chat for a tank/healer

[ancient jasper]

cOmmUnITY

They think that, somehow, is interaction. Spamming for an hour, or more, to find a group, ask for buffs/summon, do dungeon, say gg/tyfp, then leave.

That's about the interaction you have 9 times outa 10 from what I've seen

[deep pawn]

They think they're catering to people who want that

I think that's just dead based on how everything is gdkp and boosts

[ancient jasper]

Yep. Funny how they haven't done anything about the whole boosting thing.. and that they, themselves, are selling boosts..

[deep pawn]

I want to do the content at the difficulty and abilities that existed then, but I share no fondness for the time wasting aspects

[ember blaze]

do they allow communities?

cause outside of what they did on retail, what else would they do 🤔

[deep pawn]

Allow reporting on the lfg channel

Or slow it down like they do retail public channels

But that'd require them making it official

Retail doesn't have any server wide chats like classic lfg

[subtle oar]

They didn't blame anybody. They said they decided not to do the LFD because that was what the community wants.

[deep pawn]

What they thought it wanted

Also, yay, confirmation saved load outs are swappable on the fly out in the world outside of combat

[ember blaze]

yeah ion covered it on the hazel interview 🤔

would take a ton of resources to deliver

[cunning fossil]

It may be possible for Dracthyr to become other classes in the future, but that's not where the story is starting in Dragonflight.

Much swag yeah

[cosmic beacon]

gamer

[deep pawn]

Makes sense honestly

[cosmic beacon]

moment

cant wait to have an undead dragon dk

[deep pawn]

These guys are going from waking up to the isles. Not exactly time to learn to be a priest

[cunning fossil]

Yeah exactly

It's all about patience

[cosmic beacon]

but if they dont be a priest how will the light save them

[cunning fossil]

Rather than rushing stuff

[cosmic beacon]

from all the scaly haters

[cunning fossil]

Fuck them

:p

[cosmic beacon]

oh trust me i will

[deep pawn]

Pretty sure a Dracthyr could eat a real life human easily

They are bigger than we think

[cunning fossil]

Nice

[ancient jasper]

@subtle oar I'd say saying it's what the community wants and foisting the blame off on them and NOT taking responsibility is.. well.. yeah.

[subtle oar]

Uh no.

Theres nothing to blame anything on

[ancient jasper]

Ah, yes, just deleting one of the major QoL features from the game as if it never existed.

[subtle oar]

Because it is what the community wanted. The Classic community rails against that stuff, because it goes against the whole point of classic.

[ancient jasper]

The Classic community was, supposedly, the community of #NoChanges

That shit didn't last long

Instead of staying in Classic now they are screwing up WotLK:C for those who wanted it like it was originally

[subtle oar]

🙄

[ancient jasper]

That's.. honestly about the response I expected.

[uncut lintel]

@subtle oar -cries- i just had a full on panick attack bcuz i was calmly feeding my gecko, and a huge fuckin stinkbug flies straight at me holy shit

never ran so fast in my life

my gecko looked at me like im an idiot

[subtle oar]

D:

Did the gecko eat it?

[uncut lintel]

no

u cant eat stinkbugs

they have stinky juice and it burns ur mouth

[subtle oar]

Geckos can

[uncut lintel]

no

p sure not

@subtle oar even if can i dont like giving him outside food bcuz of parasites

[subtle oar]

True

[deep pawn]

I'm admittedly wanting changes, but that was earlier dual spec, lfd, and honestly the quest log

They're never adding the next to map quest log to classic

[ancient jasper]

Same.

[deep pawn]

As of now at least

Apparently part of classic is constantly having wowhead up

[uncut lintel]

me sweating in retrail

[ember blaze]

rose tinted glasses 😂

[deep pawn]

I just dislike this weird lazy way they're going about this. If you want to make classic+ make new content for that era. Not warp other memories to fit something dead

[ember blaze]

do classic players want new content

and arent they just following community feedback

[ancient jasper]

Who the hell knows when they never show what specific feedback they are following

[uncut lintel]

for 2026

[cunning fossil]

Tbh

[cosmic beacon]

Tbf

[upper pasture]

Tl;dr

[cunning fossil]

Lol

[cosmic beacon]

Mans said tbf and left it at that

We may never know what he was going to be honest about

[cosmic beacon]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1517480009581182979?s=20&t=0P3HQFJ_s1gKhGOoIMyFXg

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

Dragonflight Alpha starting "soon"?!

Ion says the Expansion is "quite far long. It's a lot of work that's been going into it over the last couple of years". This is actually huge and exciting! I'm huffing the hopium right now
https://t.co/U9POGzTKUp

Twitter · Apr 22, 2022, 12:26 PM

[rain cave]

if that's the case, that combined with the fact the talent tree image they showed already has parts of it the devs are saying is outdated, I'm wondering if the video we saw was genuinely intended for much earlier

like feb, when we would have intended to see a blizzconline or somesuch

[strange falcon]

I dont trust the expac to not be rushed if it releases before next year

[rain cave]

the thing is I'm wondering what they would even rush

they can't go live if the talent trees aren't finished, and all the professions are revamped

[strange falcon]

Half assed would have been a more accurate word

[languid yoke]

I'm just surprised how MUCH they just freely talked about in interviews that weren't mentioned a single bit during the deep dive - m+, profession talent tree, not even showcasing tierset during the presentation

[strange falcon]

The presentation was pre recorded

Think you missed that small detail

[ancient jasper]

Huh looks like they are allowing White/Grey gear to be mogged during Dragonflight or possibly in 9.2.5 or a prepatch

[cosmic beacon]

Ye that’s dope

More hats

[uncut lintel]

ugh ok but

lovely rose

?

year round plz

[ancient jasper]

Just more armor in general.. Some of the vendor white sets are pretty cool lol

Yeah gonna be honest here the Holiday stuff needs to be made year round if you work to get it during the Holiday.

[uncut lintel]

theres no excuse

they did it with flower crowns

they can do it again

[rain cave]

I don't understand the logic behind the limited time transmogging of that stuff

since most of it isn't even that themed

[cunning fossil]

It did say "WORK IN PROGRESS" At the bottom of the screen.

[rain cave]

well yeah it's all work in progress

it's not out yet lol

[nocturne totem]

Yeah it kind of frustrates me that all of this info is being given directly from Blizz through their own channels of communication.

Par for the course though

[rain cave]

I mean, isn't anything official like that?

[nocturne totem]

I didn't say it wasn't official or anything

Just all of these sources just for info bout the expansion

Praise sites like Wowhead compiling it all

[strange falcon]

imagine living in a country where wowhead is blocked

cant have news

[rain cave]

I'd love it if they just did a direct QnA but I doubt they'll every do one of those, especially in an online hype event

[rain cave]

xd

used to live in china so I can relate somewhat

[nocturne totem]

Yeah, ideally I'd just want to go to the Dragonflight website and see any announced info about it

[strange falcon]

i saw someone,i forgot who, saying "it would be so much better if everytime they had an interview, they just updated the main site, with the relevant info from the interview, like wowhead has been doing with putting the important quote in the post"

and no,it was a content creator on youtube that said this, it wasnt exaltys

[rain cave]

I mean, some important info is being left out

however

directly compiling interview shit isn't very format friendly for the website

since they're literally conversations

[nocturne totem]

Unfortunately, that doesn't serve the content hype circuit like TheBigSaint said.

[strange falcon]

i mean, you could also just not watch any interviews at all, and say "if blizzard doesnt think its important enough to put it on their own websites/ make a bluepost about it, then it isnt important for me to read/watch

go into next expac fully blind, poggers

[rain cave]

they did say they want to get talent calculators or somesuch up

which I am looking forward to

[nocturne totem]

That's how I usually treat any story elements

[strange falcon]

unfortunately for you, the wow community doesnt know what the word "spoiler" is,because the story isnt a big deal

[nocturne totem]

After Shadowlands I'm pretty uninterested in the story

[rain cave]

I mean

we are in the PTR spoilers channel

and I used to care about not being spoiled somewhat

[strange falcon]

i meant story spoilers of course, dont nitpick me smh

[rain cave]

9.1 I refused to watch the end raid cinematic

until I beat the boss myself

but 9.2 I just watched them as they came out since I cba to find a guild to raid with since my situation's fucked

[nocturne totem]

Even if you didn't go to this channel it is a little hard to be 100% unspoiled. You can't really hide text behind spoilers on social media and Wowhead commonly has spoilers in news article headline and the images used for them.

[strange falcon]

the funniest comparison i've heard is "so you can look at him just go out like an old bionicle that ran out of power" in regards to the 9.2 cinematic

[strange falcon]

you know that every other major mmo's community knows about the word spoiler, right?
if that's really a bother to you, just go play those games, that easy o.o

[rain cave]

thing I'm confused about is that, jailer died but in a way that looks like his power got sucked out

in which case

where tf?

why?

if he just died wouldn't he just fall over

but why does us hitting his shins for 10 minutes suddenly puncture his anima bubble and it all comes flowing out

[strange falcon]

they were trying to say that everyone in the shadowlands is a robot, and that's why capitalism bad, probably, idk
danuser isnt easy to decipher

[nocturne totem]

I never said it was a bother to me. We were talking about the nature of spoiling.

[rain cave]

"decipher? that's a great idea for a mechanic! lets add it to 9.2"

[strange falcon]

wasnt the 9.2 affix called encrypted? or something like that

[strange falcon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/u8u5z7/thanks_i_hate_misspelling_dracthyr/

[cunning fossil]

It is yes

[cunning fossil]

Ok that's funny lmao

[deep pawn]

Regarding all the info the media sites have. It's on purpose. It's symbiotic

Those sites get clicks, Blizzard gets relatively cheap press. It just takes dev time to sit down

[strange falcon]

so you're saying that its like blizzard feeding the dogs

[deep pawn]

more like giving the pigs slop, by that I mean us who'll gobble it up

[strange falcon]

are you doing..self degradation

👀

[deep pawn]

why not?

[ember blaze]

with those gray items becoming transmog, are there any good ones worth farming for 🤔

[ionic terrace]

10.0 is now on (encrypted) wowdev

[deep pawn]

oooo

that's early

[ivory meadow]

yep

considering the leak pointed to a Q1 release

[rain cave]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraft-radios-for-azeroth-podcast-interviews-steve-danuser-watcher-karinos-the-326792#comments there's some interesting tidbits in here

they basically flat out tell us the lore behind the primal incarnates which is nice

so we can start looking in to that

wouldn't surprise me if the primal incarnates and related lore are why deathwing was all magma like

since the dracthyr are said to be inspired by the primalists, from back when deathwing was neltharion

maybe when he became deathwing he also tried to take back in that power of the elements, which explains the alliance with ragnaros

but being empowered by both primal and titan powers was too much

considering the primal incarnates appear to be giant proto-drakes, following the different elements on the chart that were sealed away in other places, it wouldn't surprise me if the Maldraxxus is actually the primal incarnate of decay

[plain violet]

Yeah, that would be an extra nice info.

And true too that in Cata, deathwing do test with elements, and the twilight hammer with the elements.. would be a nice thematic callback.

[glass flicker]

Wait, what was the misspelling of Dracthyr?

[strange falcon]

Unfortunately mr Steve's middle name is "retcon" so even after the patch/expac is out, lore is never safe

[glass flicker]

Oh, they spelled it Drakthyr.

Because that's really different. It's still a hard C.

[uncut lintel]

what

hows it different

@strange falcon wuts retconned mean, isnt it just a name, why do ppl always get mad abt names

[strange falcon]

Its a bot, man

[plain violet]

In France we have a old joke that goes like :

"With a K, because we're a bad boy"

[indigo vector]

Have we added the Evoker discord to the Wowhead registry?

There is the most active one posted in the official wow discord if that's something we wanted to add

[cunning fossil]

Where is that?

It's not even out hah

[cunning fossil]

Where is that if I may ask?

[ember blaze]

there's an official wow discord?

[deep pawn]

There's the reddit one that is named just world of warcraft but it's not official

[indigo vector]

Sorry guys, went AFK for a while.
https://discord.gg/6vYKwauC

@cunning fossil @ember blaze

[ember blaze]

@indigo vectorwhat's that

[uncut lintel]

well its a discord server

abuot dragons

[rain cave]

I'm so confused

when I click on fur's profile it changes the images completely

[uncut lintel]

what

@rain cave oh thats just wut nitro does

u can have different pfps per server different from ur main pfp

[subtle oar]

Yee

I have art of my Panda (made by Foxy) for my PfP here

[rain cave]

strange

[deep pawn]

Hopefully next week's ptr build actually moves things

[nocturne totem]

Why is it called Wyrmrest Temple? I would assume this new race hails from the Dragon Isles. Just nitpicking.

[uncut lintel]

i want a dragon movie so bad they animate them in the cinamatic so well

blizzard make more movie

plz

[ivory meadow]

I know this is a very late reply, but knowing this now, we're probably getting datamined alpha within two weeks to a month by my speculation. Earliest first encrypted alpha in WoW's recent history; SL first encrypted alpha was 3 months after announcement.

[cosmic beacon]

Getting pinged at 5am

[uncut lintel]

@cosmic beacon

[deep pawn]

You don't mute pings while sleeping?

[uncut lintel]

u kno u can mute pings permanently rite

i have all pings muted myself

[cosmic beacon]

Idc if I was pinged anyway, was memeing, been sat up all night doing a 100% run of corpse party so

[deep pawn]

oh boy, sleep is important

[ember blaze]

no more movies 🤮

these companies gotta learn from riot and make a series

while giving the artist freedom

otherwise you got bobby deciding the story 🤔

[uncut lintel]

ILL CRY

FOR BLIZZARD SERIES

[ember blaze]

yeah it aint happening

[opaque pewter]

It's a lot of money most people aren't ready to invest after all

[uncut lintel]

i know

they spent all their money on yachts and shadowlands

[opaque pewter]

Hmm

[uncut lintel]

worse decisions of the 2020s

[opaque pewter]

I have a feeling that was not meant to be a serious discussion

Carry on

[uncut lintel]

hi im foksi

[dense plover]

i think theyre going to have a much longer alpha/beta

[ivory meadow]

yep

[dense plover]

i still expect Q1 2023 release

which is why we dont have preorders

in case they have to move to Q2 2023

[uncut lintel]

its so far away u_u

i wanna play noww

i cant cope

[cunning fossil]

Lil

[ember blaze]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1517612116366168064?s=20&t=3RIYqC5_c75M3xZKcaKI8w

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

"Either you TuskARE or you TuskAREN'T".

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3024

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Twitter · Apr 22, 2022, 9:11 PM

tuskar confirmed

[cunning fossil]

Lmao

[uncut lintel]

yea 100%

u cant just make a joke and it not being a race

they are coming

[ember blaze]

they did the same with cross faction before confirming it 🤔

[uncut lintel]

holy shit

[deep pawn]

that doesn't look armor ready...

[uncut lintel]

what do u mean

[deep pawn]

Some speculated they'll be an allied race, those have clothes modelled directly on them. I mean it didn't stop Nightborne, but who knows

[strange falcon]

Nightborne were also the first batch, the idea of allied races came after legion was out

[strange falcon]

Peach still exists pog, and ye, any release before 2023 would be incredibly sus as for the quality of the expac

[austere gazelle]

Darkfallen would be the allied race before DF. It would close the calia chapters trying to ease the pain of the undead NE and BE and never going back on it

And would, at least, offer a small explanation as to why she was in the SL doing nothing

[strange falcon]

Tbf we have too many playable elf races already xd

[languid yoke]

^

[glass flicker]

I can think of more customization options added for existing races that would make them look different entirely.

Like some taunka options for tauren. With messier fur patterns and such.

[plain violet]

More custom would be nice yes.

More over we now have name onto the custom.

So the custom can just have the name "taunka"

[rain cave]

darkfallen?

[strange falcon]

ICC vampires

[rain cave]

the san'layn, you mean?

[sonic flame]

do you think anduin has feelings for sylvanas?

[rain cave]

yes but not in that way

sylvanas is already taken my man

[sonic flame]

nathanos just sucks tho

[rain cave]

I think anduin just likes talking to troubled people

it's his best trait imo

[sonic flame]

The fact she's taken no longer matter tho if my math is right

Sylvanas is undead, not dead, she can ( and eventually will ) return to azeroth. Anduin is not even undead.
Nathanos insted is dead-dead. We probably won't see him.

If Jaina has found love again after Arthas died I don't see why sylvanas woudn't

[rain cave]

I think sylvanas is looking for nathanos

he's probably in there somewhere

[sonic flame]

He's definetely there, but he can't return

[rain cave]

or even if she does find him

they might be estranged

he feels betrayed by her, and still has his old mentality

of just being a snarky dickhead

[sonic flame]

Also when did the relationship between sylvanas and nathanos become official?

[rain cave]

before they even died wasn't it

they've always been a thing but sylvanas doesn't like showing it so that's why everyone was guessing

[sonic flame]

mmmh

[nocturne totem]

War Crimes was such a good book

[glass flicker]

People just want to see Sylvanas get with Anduin, but they have a relationship more akin to siblings.

Plus, Sylvanas is years older than her "little lion"

Many years.

Cue the "ara ara" jokes.

[cunning fossil]

Dn everyone hating Anduin sucks :/

[subtle oar]

Wrong

[subtle oar]

When she was alive

[sonic flame]

omg

I'm more a ara ara guy than the uwu guy, now that you made me thing about it I want it 1000x times

[glass flicker]

Oh my gods.

[sonic flame]

Also sylvanas doesn't age afaik because she's undead, so if they spend like 30 years in the maw he will look as old as her or even older

[glass flicker]

My fellow gods.

[indigo vector]

Gonna be honest... I'm not sure lol

I wanted to have them name it Tyrhold, but there was another one made named Tyrhold and there would be a little drama between the two more than there is already which we don't need lol

[rain cave]

I guarantee there are many servers with the same names

so it's honestly not a big deal

just let the communities duke it out in engagement and see which one lives longest

[deep pawn]

It was a given multiple would be set up instantly

[cunning fossil]

Peeps are excited after all

Just gotta wait until one turns into the "official" one

[strange falcon]

tbh its gonna be probably called the name of the evoker starting zone once we know it

[nocturne totem]

Wait to see where the top players of Evoker gravitate to and take over

[cunning fossil]

True

It'll br gun

[ancient jasper]

The team is playing with ways to make the Dracthyr's visage form usable in combat as well outside of using dragon abilities. That's cool for people who enjoy the more humanoid Visage form

[cunning fossil]

Swag

I would love variants thiugh

Rather than just Human and elves

Gove us GNOMES

[plain violet]

FINALLY

[ember blaze]

So would it be doing that flying breath attack with no wings

Or am I misreading

[rain cave]

I mean arguably their most marketed dragon that's still alive is a gnome..

people love chromie

dragon visage forms are also extremely varied in general

like sure the main aspects use human/ elf like stuff

but even then, it's actually the inverse of the dracthyr

since most of them are female belf rig

and kalec is human male rig

[cunning fossil]

Yeag true but still

I feel like they should provide other "visages" overtime

[rain cave]

yeah fair

they could do that while they add other classes to dracthyr too ;p

if they do a world revamp in 11.0 or somesuch

since I imagine that the dracthyr starting zone will be speicifcally designed for the evoker class

[cunning fossil]

True.

Dracthyr will definitely be more classes moving forward but not yet

[ancient jasper]

@ember blaze Nah you'll probably hop in to Dragon form for a second like DH do with Eye Beam

[languid yoke]

I kinda don't see the point of allowing that, you play a Dracthyr after all to be... you know, Dracthyr. Not visage. At least that's how I see it. If they do that, at least let me use the dragon riding feature in its entirety in my dracthyr form (either by flying myself or being able to mount dragons in dracthyr form)

[uncut lintel]

itll most likely work like the worgen

if in combat ur a dragon and if not u can turn it off and on

having it work like the DH is just so dumb bro

worst ideas ive seen ppl have

and im p sure if it did work like the DH we would have 0 customization options for them in the first place cuz if u only see it for like say 10 seconds, wuts the foccin point?

[ancient jasper]

@languid yoke To give both people who enjoy the more humanoid form AND the people who enjoy the Dragon form a chance to play how they want to?

[uncut lintel]

it is alright if they do this but the reason im getting the xpac and wanting the new race is to stay in dragon form, but this is a great option for weird ppl who dont wanna be a badass dragon in combat and im not against having options

[languid yoke]

if I'm forced to use visage form while dragon riding I can't play how I want

[uncut lintel]

LOL RELATABLE

they said u cant have dragons riding dragons yet we have foxes riding foxes, wolves riding wolves

draenei riding goats

[rain cave]

also, are alextrasza and chromie any less dragons when in humanoid form?

[uncut lintel]

yes

[languid yoke]

yes

[rain cave]

I mean, visually sure but like

physiologically

they aren't

[uncut lintel]

🤔

no i guess not

[rain cave]

chromie stays in humanoid form even when fighting a lot of the time

[cosmic beacon]

[uncut lintel]

also i am 100% sure and hoping itll work like worgen, they even have dance and other animation emotes

[rain cave]

even in cata the aspects stayed in humanoid form for a lot of the deathwing fight

[uncut lintel]

yea cuz they need excuse for the players to do everything

[rain cave]

they're not any less powerful whilst in humanoid form, is what I am saying

not by a margin we've seen

[uncut lintel]

what

how they gonna use dragon spells in visage form

[rain cave]

wdym

[uncut lintel]

u say they are not any less powerful

yet they cant cast shit

o-o

[rain cave]

wdym

[uncut lintel]

bruh

[rain cave]

aspects used the dragon soul

whilst in human form

[uncut lintel]

LOL

WAIT

THATS THE ONLY THING THEY DID?1!

[rain cave]

I'm confused what you're going on about

I'm just saying that a dragons power isn't tied to its form per se

they only transform into a form for another purpose that physical form would allow

like alexstrasza going drago mode to fight another big dragon

or do a larger breath attack

bigger mass

but if she were to chuck a fireball at you, it would probably be the same regardless of her form

dragons aren't going super saiyan when they go to their natural form is what I'm sayin ;p

[jagged shale]

whats ptr

[rain cave]

public test realm

[plain violet]

I think the form will work like DH and worgen.

Free switch like worgen, but when in combat if visage form, will work like DH for some spells.

[dense plover]

They already said it’s like worgen in that you auto switch in combat

[uncut lintel]

actually u might not be wrong, if they do bring the option for combat in both forms permenently, if youre using visage, you will probably turn into a dragon for that spell duration depending on what that spell is, 🤔 whoa smart

[plain violet]

Yeah, but they also have said later that they work on enabling the visage form on combat

[uncut lintel]

because too many ppl complaining "WTF I DONT WANNA BE A STUPID DRAGON I WANNA SEE MY SHITTY TRANSMOG I FARMED FROM A RAID 5 YEARS AGO BLIZZZARD"

[plain violet]

So like Furscale have said, I think that if it's the case, it would work like these for the animations that need the dragon form.

Like, simple casting in visage form keep the visage form, but the fire breath + fly would change into dragon form for 1/2s.

Yuuup.

[uncut lintel]

yea

that would be better, u can not have enough variety

that is a way to this time , make both sides happy

[plain violet]

Exactly, it would be great for both side, people like me who would like the dragon form for combat, and the ones wanting their visage form.

[uncut lintel]

[deep pawn]

Both would be super cool to have as options

[ancient jasper]

More options is almost always better than less lol

[cosmic beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/756672327671873667/967509205391142922/IMG_2654.jpg
@uncut lintel

[uncut lintel]

no

i hate the second picture

[deep pawn]

If Dracthyr are twinks, I have to wonder what they think is normal haha.

[plain violet]

That's the point of the meme.

To denounce the hypocrisy of the people who think "uargh, fetish, bad, lol", but in the same time, their "fixed" model are a fetish as much (the bara)

[plain violet]

Yeah, some people have a tendance of thinking every creature should be 700lbs.

[uncut lintel]

yea

now maybe if you had a headcannon that ur dragon ate 5000 pounds a meat a day then it could be that buff

[plain violet]

Exactly. But in general, lizards aren't so buff.

[uncut lintel]

yea

most dragons in wow r not buff they are just big so they look buff

[plain violet]

Exactly! And even that, they are quadrupede.

Of course it's big.

But if you are with only two legs, well you better have a body that can fly easily.

And that do not mean they are weak, lizards have a different muscle density.

[languid yoke]

drakonids are buff but idk about anyone else

I do love me some bara buff, but I also love dracthyr as they are now

[plain violet]

They do not fly (so don't need of) and were more.. humanized in their bodies.

[proud wharf]

nice argument, one small issue
let me be big beefy lizard with wings ;-;

[cosmic beacon]

no, twink dragon bois only

[plain violet]

Yeah, only twinks.

We will also already have different torso type with them.

[cunning fossil]

Daily Wrathduin Point
||https://twitter.com/meg_emmy_james/status/1516760639196254210?t=xiDM5mgtFHT-u5VCgMLtTg&s=19||

Literally has to happen now

[rain cave]

the tweet above this one has an interesting point

anduin's having a thrall moment

he wants to go off and do his own thing

that's fine for an extent

but he doesn't get to shirk his responsibilities without consequence

and I think he will learn that

just like thrall

[languid yoke]

when turalyon goes full disco war against the void which oops, that's part of the alliance

[uncut lintel]

@cunning fossil me an anduin x wrath shipper

-SCREAMS-

[deep pawn]

Even as woke as Blizzard is trying to be, I don't think they have the guts to do a wranduin fling even if it's never end game.

Jaina had her Kalec fling after all

I'm also reminded how much I loved Lorthemar thinking about how much older and taller Thalyssra was to him

[uncut lintel]

@deep pawn if its not in the game, it wont stop the fanart and fanfiction 😏

[deep pawn]

I'm old, I remember the nascent days of the Harry Potter stuff, I'm well aware that canon means nothing

[rain cave]

wouldn't surprise me if they tried to set it up back in MoP but then somebody took over and went "hell nah"

that being said

bromance is better than romance

[uncut lintel]

no its not

[rain cave]

let them just be friends who are estranged

as they are

[uncut lintel]

wrathion growls to his king

[rain cave]

more interesting dynamic that way

[uncut lintel]

no

[rain cave]

please stop being cringe

lmao

[uncut lintel]

anduin reaches out his hand, and pets his lover on the snoot

[deep pawn]

So many people freaked out at snoot.

[uncut lintel]

wrathion purrs

LOL OK IM DONE

LOL

ik

snoot is so much better than snout

[rain cave]

I disagree

[uncut lintel]

ppl exploded

ur just a boomer

[rain cave]

not really

[uncut lintel]

yea

[rain cave]

snoot just sounds like redditor talk

[uncut lintel]

well

i mean

wow has a reddit