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And they didn't even touch on Raids or Dungeons
So we have 0 idea what those could be
Which is exciting
We also have concept art of the possible tier sets as well https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231262364308209664/966050749928849408/SPOILER_WoW_Dragonflight_Primalist_Raid_Tier_Sets_Concept.png
I am absolutely loving those oranges and earthy ones
Warrior is probably dead center there if I had to guess
3rd shaman, 4th monk, middle is warrior, then priest, last is hunter
they showed armor on the dragon forms
I put this as my desktop wallpaper, looks really sick
oh did they?
I want to see that very much
I never saw that, wingthor. You have a picture? ๐ฎ
though I guess that could just be customizations to the form
That looks more like customization to me
S'all good lol
I'm fine with renown as more involved reputation
^
especially since it would mean you have a tangible reward tied to the rep levels
instead of just a list of items at a huge milestone, they can spread it out over renown levels for that rep
more tank specs doesn't solve the issue of tanking being the least played role.
its because tanks get treated like shit
well i know but i feel like if there were more variety more ppl would do it even if u got felt like shit due to it being fun idk
BUT the talent system might help with that
tanking in general is just very niche
Like the funnest tank for me is Pala
majority of people find the role boring
bro i love pala and monk and bear tank
Guardian was too boring for me
do you guys reckon stonebro will play a nice role?
but im too scared to use it max lvl so i always dps 
yes he will be our paragon holder
jk jk
Lol
Lolss
Evoker with pressing a button and holding it down
Ugh that sounds fun.
Is wierd but cool
I hope they do
it reads to me like controller and button optimizing
They could definitely do this for Pyro last or something
since that system basically acts as your flash heal/ slow heal all in one
True
i think they might do it for other class stuff IF people like it
perfect hand ive ever done
but i dont think it will be done for classes by default
Lmao
maybe they will have talents that allow for charging? idk
FIr enough pitch
pitch
there's a couple icons on druid that aren't recognized so we could see just a couple new things per class
Makes sense since like
We are getting 10 new levels
I really liked that they didn't go "GO PREORDER NOW LOOK IT WAS SO COOL"
Like nah they cantually wanted us to listen
they made ppl wanna pre oredr and now they wont release the pre order
I think they didn't do preorder since no release date
Instead of instantly begging for money
@uncut lintel check DMs
and I don't think they can take preorders if there's no release date or something
They didn't stop it during SL tho
wdym
In SL they didn't have a set release date and they still released pre orders
Fair eheh
which would be around 9.2.5 release
hey atleast you get to see potentially more news and reasons to even preorder
I don't have any motivation to play SL other than maybe
without the pressure to preorder rn
I GOT THE NAME RESERVED FOR MY GAL
Nice
I can't wait to see dragondeez
Gonna be a lot of Dragonmommy
I should go ahead and preserve one too
goldshire inn is going to get a lot of new customers
You're welcome.
Scaleys unite
LETS GO SCALIES LETS GO
Oh no.
Fuck yeahh
All the dracthyr on sethrak rule34.
neeeeed prepatch to come already
The male model is FIRE
that shit i bet is already out LMAOOOL
artist get fast
Didn't you check the meme I sent you?
It's literally only one imagine with the Dracthyr tag atm.
pvp drakthyr name reserved
Lmao.
Ornate armor value skyrocketting
what's that
I like how they're mages in mail ngl.
And their primary stat is intellect for both specs.
it's a mail armor set that's pretty skimpy
int tank when
True dragons have dragonflight name
Ngl, I hoped DH would wear mail when Legion was announced.
I was so disappointed to see another fucking leather wearer.
So evokers are a nice change.
those pants look nice, without these lol

Dragongaygal works
this is interesting
Talent types are represented by three different shapes:
Squares: active abilities
Circles: passive abilities
Hexagons: choose an ability
12 letters.
CHOOSE an ability
interesante
Oh crap the names they need to be preserved
I already know what I'm naming my Dracthyr.
Notyseraguys
I wonder what the dracthyr's racials will be
Well I gotta get up now
maybe, its own flying mount, glide?, fire resist ofc, hmm idk wut else
1% crit
probs
And good at archeology.
or well maybe resist to all elements by 1%
this too
gonna end up with characters on my realm maxed cause of reserving names 

And maybe a 10 or 20% flight speed.
MOTHERFUCKERS BETTER NOT HAVE TAKEN MY NAME
@cosmic beacon u gave me a good idea
You wouldn't
@cunning fossil what name
I met a guy who had both arthas and uther
i reserve it on tarren mill
Bruh.
he even had transmogs to match
DRAGONTALES
I have Vergil on my server.
THE SHOW
He's my belf DH.

I reserved Dracthyra XD
there's been a few of those
nod
I'll probably go something thematic to dragons
Lel
best name
Holy shit.
I am torn between the blue and black cosmetics
Lmao
Nice
I have chromies full name on a server somewhere
Chronormu
nah
chronormuwu
I could swear her name was Chronormu.
theres actually a few dragon names in lore that arent taken somehow
sindragos, smolderwing and tyrygosa arent taken
I can make one for sure
Darkblaze wasn't taken on some servers either.
@cosmic beaconwhat server are you on
You remember Darkblaze. From Redridge.
tarren mill
so a very big one
That name
lmao
anyone else wondering why we didn't hear about any black flight powers like caster they said blue/red and healer was green/bronze but no mention of the use of any blackflight magics other than the old "they use all flight magic"

It is likely their defensive I think
They said they use all of them otherwise
@uncut lintel got a name for urs
rawr ๐
yeah, wondering why they couldn't make a tanking spec tho i guess adding another tank spec would be a lot more work
but they probs just have a passive that's like a harden skin or whatever that uses black flight magics
every class thats been added so far can be tank, with only 1 being able to heal
so kinda makes sense that new one isnt a tank but can heal/dps
The two specs of Evoker are only based around the Blue/ Bronze, Red and greend flights. Black got shafted
๐
although a dragon/mail tank would have been cool
๐ค
welcome to the conv wynter lol
It could incorporate the Shaman tank feels ppl loved back in the day
Be it all based around earth and entombment
that would be pretty neat
-o
im hyped theres a healer spec tho
same
wonder if itll replace my current main
sorry shaman i wanna be a cute dragon girl now 
tbf there's barely any black dragons left, and they were created by deathwing in order to channel the other flights power
mines better
no they were created to channel all flights power
isnt that the same thing 
my pfp is a dancer

UFH
excluding one isn't all
to channel the "other"
correct
I didn't say "to only channel the others"
they were created to channel the other powers, despite being creations of deathwing
so they get some of that black dragon power innately I imagine
that will probably be in their class tree instead of spec
@cosmic beaconyou right ๐ค
only thing i wish we got a little more of is like when the next stuff is coming like let us know maybe say next month we will go over more
but we get the age old blizzard "soon" lol
I wonder if the dracthyr have other race options they just didn't show/have ready
since we only saw them in alliance customisation side
it's a neutral race
hmm, i think it was posted somewhere but that's it i think
id be a orc dracthyr
wewz
that aint happening
would be cool asf
legit look like neltharion
it's weird that it's male/female race locked
THE GIF IS RUINED LOOOL
@cosmic beacon SPAWNING LOCATION FOR THIS NEW RACE ON RELEASE BE LIKE
tru
idk whether to go in as my sham then do dracthyr
or straight dracthyr and pray its not shit
Lol
tfw you beat solitaire
wat
yeee
now THAT was gaming
LOL U THINK IMA PLAY THAT SHIT
HELL NO
i played pbs kids, eq2, wow, and the game from the booba toys
this is like proto gaming
@uncut lintel
LOL
Incorrect. He took the essence of the dragons when he created them to be his perfect army. They were meant to embody the power of all the flights but the adaptability and pluckiness of Mortals
that's
what I said
lmao
cause most are pandas and it auto chose monk
No. You specified t=he created them to not be able to channel the black flights magic
this face wont save wow but it will save moonguard ๐
not at all
I even stated as much in a later message
why are you so passive aggressive to me skye ;p
tf I do
dracthyr lap dances gonna be insane gold grind on release
grind ๐
we can start reservations today ๐
u gonna see alot of worgen and dragon hybrids
when fur meets scale, its me you'll hail
interview
Brian holinka confirms rated solo shuffle 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692810166495608832/966104823323836436/unknown.png
@uncut lintel noodles

I WANT ONE
All I want for Christmas is tuskarrs
Yo ferret mount
Ah yes, thighs. My one true weakness
I'm curious on how they'll handle the raids this time
since the dragon race works like wongens and not like druid forms
we can assume your character will be in that form 99% of the time
so at this point I wonder if they'll make so you see the armor on top of the model
else it will just get boring to see after a while
without transmog I mean
same
we're getting tier sets, and we've not had word on legendaries
I'm wondering if they're returning to just having more unique items
and questline legendaries/ one off legendaries
like sylvanas bow
thoridal
shadowmourne
etc
and/or smaller items with unique effects
we dont know that
id prefer stuff like raeshalare, although like 1 legendary item you acquire just from story or some form of endgame thing would be neatr
just not like hoa
both imo
dont wanna grind ap again 
especially since apparently they do dragonriding in their dragon form
ye
But what about renown
switch up the stereotypes
instead of blue legendary staff like in cata
make a blue legendary sword
that people can grind/do a questline for
and it just has a unique effect
not an OP one, just a unique build opening effect
even if we get legendary items that are purely cosmetic you can strive towards, like artifact weapons but not as important id be happy with
i just want new dope asf weapons like wod challenge mode or artifacts
I mentioned something like a black ice remake
as a unique item
high rez black ice
would be smexy
World of Warcraft: Dragonflight Official Expansion Trailer New for PC, MAC, LINUX in remastered/upscaled 4K ULTRA HD and improved to smooth 60 FPS.
Release Date: 2022/2023
Players will be traveling to the often referred to but never seen Dragon Isles. After much time away, the islands were awakened so that the Dragons could return. Players wil...
4k 60fps version of the trailer
@uncut lintel whip that wallet out for preorder 
only 4 dungeons 
No Azerite/Artifact Power system is planned for Dragonflight. A progression system is expected to be included, but player feedback from Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands is being considered.
4 different dungeons?
why not just have 8 dragonflight dungeons and 4 old ones in s2
ye they are adding more dungeons but removing the og dragonflight dungeons from rotation
thats kinda ass
ngl
Itโs kinda weird but who knows
hopefully they listen to feedback about it, and hopefully the verdict is have 8 dragonflight dungeons and 4 old ones
Like season 1 could just be all the new dungeons and then each season afterwards could be 4 new expansion and 2/2 from older ones
ye thats kinda confusing me
i dont mind the 4 new dungeons in s1
but then removing said dungeons in s2

Yeah they will just swap them with the other 4 I suspect
" Blizzard is studying adding Dragonriding to all other WoW outdoor content, but the current focus on the system is for the Dragon Isles. "
and also noted on another post " Dragonriding will let players reach far higher speeds than normal flying "
So to answer my own questions of some hours ago
the way they plan to make dragonriding and flying coexist is to make the latter require more effort in trade of going faster
it will be a little weird roleplay-wise that a dragon is able to go much faster than any other mounts, but I guess it's fine
we already have rocket mounts going at the same speed of bird mounts, so... XD
If thatโs not the name of an achievement tied to gaining max speed or something Iโll be sad at a missed opportunity
I want to know if failing to ride will make you die
Someone ask pls
If you can die from hitting stuff while flying
how interesting :3
and also, and also
this is actually the best question
the heart of azeroth neck didn't work in SL because we were in SL, away from azeroth
that's what they said
what vid is this from by the way? am looking for it
now we are in azeroth so it has to work
where did you find him also
"Kadghar and Wrathion will be important characters in the expansion, along with other returning characters. Tyrande included."
Yay, YAY, fuck
they'll disable the heart, they have to
"Dragon magicks interfere with Azeroth's connection"
its on the media tab
aha, thank you
i heard gnolls got an update and am excited to see
Reddit.
oof
doesnt ssay when tho

The stone boi from the trailer cinematic resembles the gigachad a lot. Or is it just me?
@cosmic beaconi dont mind that. the same exact dungeons for the entire expac just get boring insanely fast
so happy with this
lolo
it's Brian Holinka haha
Lmao
Dude are they serious? This is fucking awesome
SO COOL
Dude this is actually interesting
Oh my God the wow player base is fucking stupid
Shit oh my God they're gonna ruin it
Do they not realize that having 4 new dungeons in season 1, then 4 other new dungeons in season 2 with revamps of old dungeon
They stop the content drougt?
You don't have 1 new dungeons to play next patch
You get 8
DO THE MATH PEOPLE
We get 8 new dungeons on launch
Christ
yup
4 of them in mythic season 1
the last 4 in mythic season 2
and a chance of a 9th dungeon being added to
too
like kara or mechagon or tazavesh
they've really been liking mega dungeons of late
so I would be surprised if we get in season 3 the 2 halfs of the mega dungeon, 2 of the 8 new dungeons and then 4 older ones
and then season 4 would be all the mega dungeons
mega dungeons with hardmode are good for those that cry about non m+ big dungeons
though even then, they all cry that there aren't enough ๐
I'm excited to see what 4 old dungeons they bring back for launch
Probably Uldaman
Maybe titan related ones
Like dude this is about keeping content constantly fresh
Which is great
they;re revamping uldaman
Nice
Now the other 3 though
YES
10.0 Pre-Patch Event
The Pre-Patch event is planned to last for 2 weeks, and will introduce players to Dragonflight. A level 60 revamp of the classic dungeon Uldaman is planned for the event.
Dracthyr Evokers will be available to players during the pre-patch event.
Editor's note: There was no discussion of how Evokers would be initially available to players, but for reference - in Legion, Demon Hunters were first available on the 7.0 pre-patch event for players who had pre-ordered the expansion.
I'm actually excited my lord
They're learning fur
I just gotta check with Alpha and see how it all works
they better not do that shit again
I hope I get into this beta
Same
this is the first beta I want to actually play
Dungeon rotation
I never wanted to in past ones because it wasn't interesting enough that I wanted to spoil it
Guys this is a fucking wild idea but
but this one is so sick I think playing the beta wouldnt dilute me playing it on launch
that one sand dungeon
I never thought I'd ever be back there unless to farm
Oh sand dungeon? Eternity's End?
the one where u kill future norz
i feel like norz is gonna die 
Ooooh
End Time?

yea
Mind leaking? :0
yea pre purchase u get to play dragon people on pre patch
who knows
sad
but I think it could be tuskarr
ew
since they are getting updated
wut abt gnolls
fuck it just give us all of them
looking good blizzard looking good
dont put their hopes too high they might fuck up again if we get too confidenr
yea it is
Loosing the cautious in cautiously optimistic honestly
im just prepared for anything bad that migh come but i think itll be fine
Right
Oof
gotta love blizzard
curse ur rng system for qued instances
that take an hour to complete
lightforged undead
LOOOL
and those dead bloodelfs
calia?
whens the last time she showed up
some stuff that has been added for .5 seem to be hinting at this stuff
Lol
and neither are dragons
that shit can just be customization options
wow u must have not seen the sstream
literally all allied races
but here we are
no
no one is gonna like stupid dark rangers or a slightly lighter colored skin unedaed
waste of recources
just like the concept of it
it's just a copy of already existing races ๐ what's there to waste
some people on here mentioned how just separating them makes it easier to implement new customization
as opposed to giving it to the base ones
Oml there are 130 dungeons in WoW
I can't pick 3 out of this least I wanna see back
let alone stupid undead
no one wants to play an undead that follows light ppl play undead bcuz they are dead and cool and listen to fuckin no one
not like they care
but if you want them to add stuff based on what people actually play
then you cant be mad at them adding more elves
cause people play humans/elves
ok then we get shiny undead
yea in your dreams

more ppl would rather have tuskarr, sethrak, and gnolls than any of those shitty reskins
no they wouldnt
Or they just add those as customisation options like night warrior
people dont like playing ugly monsters
bruh
it's why majority of players play elves
i think playing a human and bland elf is boring
nobody plays diaper gnomes
who the fuck plays fantasy games and goes with a bland race
TRUE LOL
Tobi is factually right but his point is wrong
well more ppl would play em if they had tails
worgens would have been better as a recent race
lol why
Lots of people play elves, but adding more elves won't fix that
cause maybe they would have gotten the kultiran treatment
what do u mean
im saying he cant be mad at more elves if he's saying we shouldnt add stuff ppl wont play(undead)
The half giant race in the new xpac look like good allied race for the horde
@uncut lintelkultirans and zandalar got new druid forms
worgen got ๐ฉ
and their cat form could have just been themselves
worgen got new animations, models and more
wdym
ofc they are not gonna redesign every cat form
or druid form
arent they some forbidden cat form
u can just go to the barber shop and change it anyway
or whatever
might as well make use of their bodies when theyre already a druid form

lol
Ok but can we get an option for boomkin with the zndalari rig
please
For all races
Like a dragon glyph
is there anything in the lore where boomkins arent horrendous chickens?
aside from that bird creature from zandalar
Main reason I don't play boomkin is because I hate boomkin form
I also dislike the blue glyph form
is it just me or are others excited for this soft-revamp of flying?
I kind of hope flying in future expansions just builds off of this
I like this better than current flight
exactly
It's not just no clipping through the air
Like
Whenever I ride my mounts and i' not AFK I just shift it this way and that to make it lively
thats where I am at, flying will actually be engaging and somewhat novel and fun
Doing random ass flips lmao
and if they're smart
they carry it into the next expac
with more customizable flying mounts
or even better
they add some more base mounts this expansion too
and just build off of it
and make it a core feature of wow
they already said they might make it a thing in older zones a long side current flying
Id love to do this through MoP
or grizzly hills and storm peaks
or from hyjal to Org
@urban spirethey said theyre looking at making it a thing for the rest of the world
that would be epic to fly through
but for the start it will just be in the new zone
where did that come from?
that looks like the primalist tier set
well it does
same aesthetic
but its different
from an ion interview vid
oh okay
can you link the video? ive only gotten to read the wowhead articles
cant find the actual interviews
tht would be cool if the armor itself put effects on ur characters body
Primalist tier looks SO good

Ugh
Prayge the pvp sets are dope
I ainโt joining a mythic raiding guild unless my current one dies
conq gear scales to same ilvl
the ilvl increases are for pve only
which is odd but also neat
well there was 4chan leak from a few days ago that mentioned everything
yee
but also mentioned a preorder allied race (not drakthyr)
yeah so maybe its those tauren? but probably not
the scaleface guy
said nov 2022 for release
but that might just be an internal goal
and not a real release,
just their aim but if it takes longer then they let it take longer
If you don't mind, can u link it?
Cuz I did not see this
Okay, so @Gurzog showed me a 4chan post from April 16th that lists every detail about Dragonflight. It gets everything right, but has two additional points.
-Murozond is the main villain
-Pre-ordering the expansion unlocks a new allied race (not dracthyr, something else)
264
UGH crap I promised myself I wouldn't be so hype wtf
Murozond makes sense
We have his fall to come
And I like the idea we fight him, he escapes, but is greatly weakened, which is why 5 of us a decade ago could best him
Oh I see it
I hate blizzard
God damn you
For doing decently and actually big to learn at least a alittlw
I think Michael and Matt put it well
(bellular )
we all thought we would see iteration for dragonflight
like iteration of SL systems, not innovation
but instead we did get innovation
and they said they're more hopeful than they thought they'd be
and I agree
that's how I feel too
Yup I watched the stream too. Exactly how I feel
It's NEW things
It's not just a rehash
These are truly new things being tried here
Revamping old dungeons, dungeon rotations, Evoker/Drakthyr race combo, New Talent Tree, Dragon Flying using physics and stuff and not just being a glorified mount
It's
A barrage of new stuff that we literally can not concieve until we get our hands on it
To be fair the race is just Demon hunters again
Is it though?
I think nits much more unique
Also I more so meant it being Evoker/Drakthyr only
No other combo
It's an elf(for males) with special customizations that turn into a dragon that uses the same model skeleton
Her Crown Jewels? 
As cool as it is, it's not a full fledged new race honestly
shes gonna have jewels al over her body
which is why I'm fine with it being just one class for now
Crown Jewels is another way of saying someoneโs balls 
Hit em right in the Crown Jewels
MAN LMFAO
Etc
hero class and 2-spec and for me, that's where the comparisons end tbh.

Do it
When I get money I may need to commission UwU
or u can just ask me for free wut
10 years for healer, first new ranged spec
I always believe artist should be paid for their work
Yup.
Took a fuckin decade for a new healer
19
How do you buy things
I'm 19 too wot
what
YOU SHOUKD HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT
I don't go on here all the tike
Time*
Because ya know
Kinda not very hyped about SL xP

se u made me forget wut i was gona say
@cunning fossil wut color u gonna make ur dragon
Beans
Grandad?
its time
Lmao facts
Gonna be q bronze dragon
Rulsigosa
broo im so fricken hyped
Samee
I wanna play Dragon
And make them an Engineer
And dragonride and shit oml
omg
ima draw dragons all till release so that im good at them, then i can draw my main dragon character
this is my way to cope with hype UGHHHHUISDWHH
I'm likely gonna go blue or green
i really wanna go red but idk
Pithagos or something silly
i might go teal or blue
idk
Green male names are fun though. Pithikus ๐
im female so i might go pale, red, or teal
i wanna be like feminine colors
like ysera is green and alex is red and shit
The males just look amazing

No booba
I'm actually about 50/50 on male female chars
for me it depends on the race, ill play male trolls, worgens, vulpera, but if its stupid like tauren or elf then lol no
Male worgen 
Of the 12 I have at cap, M Undead Monk, M Vulpera DK, F Nightborne Lock, M Kul Tiran Druid, F Kul Tiran Mage, M Dark Iron Priest, F Dark Iron Shaman, M Gnome Hunter, F Gnome Warrior, M Night elf DH, M Void Elf Rogue, M Dwarf Paladin.
Female worgen look so much prettier
actually, slightly favoring male characters right now
Iโve got like 15 characters maxed on horde and only 1 is male and thatโs my paladin tauren
Lmaoo
hey do u guys know how gear will work on them
can we transmog gear
on our dragon form
oh wait wtf
didnt even notice that
the blue one is prety
Canโt wait to see everyone in asmons mog comps being slutmogs on dracthyr
Fucking hot
Also reading wowhead comments is so funny
Because half the people that comment legit can't read or think critically
wtf they saying now 
"Dragon riding bad, just let me use my regular trash ass mounts to no clip through thw world" and "only 4 dungeons this expsc? Content drought again omega lul"
Basically they're saying a lot of shit that just ain't true kek

yea it gets boring real quick
But it's boring. I always make loopy loops while I flay to stop the boarding
But now I get to ACTUALLY DO THAT AS A SUPORT MECHANIC
and they are not even acknowledging the dragon u get, even if limited, it has unique animations, skills, and customization, but they still wanna use their shitty 5 polygonned mount from a overpriced vendor bcuz it lasts longer 
Dude that's fucking AWESOME
ikr
They don't even say we're getting a pathfinder this expac
ikr
It's probably gonna be more similar to Zerith Mortis
yea
Or some other thing
i liked the zm way better
Even then, I'll still use dragonriding because oh my god
I get to dive from a cliff
And then go up and down and sideways
Dude that's awesome as hell
yea
like holy crap
that is gonna be s offucking fun
ppl ignoring all da good bcuz of this flying shit
Dragon riding is the big new thing that isn't talents or professions
It'll be how we navigate until 10.1 at least
yea itll be fun too
cant wait for more posts abt it later on how "I QUIT THIS SHIT GAME I CANT FLY IN THE NEW ZNOE WTF BLIZZZARD"
i need a snack break
They made no mention pathfinder though
I think it'll be more like ZM
Ehhh idk
its rep?
I felt it was definitely more involed
Also no Rep
So like
I think it's pretty good
yea
fuck pathfinder meta lets never go back lets stick to the ZM ways
quest, exploration, collecting
NO MORE REPS
Agreed
damn i ate cheese but now im still hungry ima go get a banana and 2 oranges
Healthy
well i mea
i did eat a whole bag of chips in the span of the whole wow stream whic was an hour so now i have nothing
Lmao
othwrise id eat thoes
Good good
where is daf
He may not anything tosay
It may be the first time he has nothing to say
Yup he hasn't said anything this a half hour before the expac release
haha




