beta-ptr-spoilers

[rough tundra]

it is

[rain cave]

so don't bother with the novels

stick to one medium

it's more cohesive

[rough tundra]

the other stuff just wouldn't get told

it's only told because books are a viable entertainment medium

[rain cave]

I'm sick of this

you're dying on a pointless hill for this man

why do you WANT the story to be more fragmented

[rough tundra]

i don't feel like i'm dying

the story isn't fragmented

you can play just the game and understand it

so

imagine 15 years ago a book about zovaal was written

new character, new story

unrelated to wow

[crimson jasper]

l'd be down for more infinite Dragonflight shenanigans

[rough tundra]

and then bam, shadowlands happens and all of the stuff from that book becomes relevant

[crimson jasper]

although I am down for anything dragon related

[deep pawn]

I mean it's almost certainly dragons

But we don't know if the Infinite are involved for the Vrykul

Gotta admit both in Tazavesh feel sorta random

[rough tundra]

a lot of the story happens in the raids and i'm not doing group content right now so i'd rather none of the raid story happen

put it in quests in the game

so we should ban raids to make the game more cohesive

zone stories end in dungeons and i don't like dungeons i'd rather it happen in the zones

we should ban dugeons

[deep pawn]

oh I'd love for story to be more outside of the raid myself

[rough tundra]

or make the dungeons not relevant to the story

[upper pasture]

But that’s sorta the point of raids and why they made lfr

[rough tundra]

sepulcher should have just been us fighting 10 different colors of unicorns

but i dont' like lfr i don't have time for group content

[upper pasture]

Because people complained about not being about to see the raid story parts then they made lfr for easy mode and seeing the story bits

[rough tundra]

they should have just made them part of the zone story

[uncut lintel]

why r u guys arguing over lfr

[upper pasture]

Honestly why even have a game it’s just getting in the way of the story just give us cutscenes

[rough tundra]

i can't join LFR because that's how the government tracks you

putting quests in optional parts of the zones is a bad idea, you should force us to do 20 hours of quest content while we level

[uncut lintel]

?

im so confused

[upper pasture]

Yit is broken

[rough tundra]

just quest text on top of quest text

(i'm being ironic right now)

[uncut lintel]

im sitting here just seeing someone be mad they dont have time for grp content

[rough tundra]

the entire expansion should just be a 20 hour movie because i can't be bothered to read quest text

[uncut lintel]

well i mean

theres addons for that

[rough tundra]

[uncut lintel]

[deep pawn]

admittedly I'd say LFR needs to release faster

[uncut lintel]

tbh same i would like that, i enjoy lfr myself, yea its a pain sometimes but its WoW, what isnt lately

[rough tundra]

LFR should just be released all at once

i'm not really understanding the 8 week rollout

[uncut lintel]

yea idk

either

[upper pasture]

Gotta keep those numbers up

[deep pawn]

3 months of subs

[uncut lintel]

[rough tundra]

lfr people would be subbed for 3 months anyway

i don't think that's really the issue

[upper pasture]

Yeah but don’t tell blizz that

[uncut lintel]

blizzard just hates fun

its all been true

[rough tundra]

who is the audience for LFR?

[uncut lintel]

me

[rough tundra]

solo players

[uncut lintel]

yes

[rough tundra]

people with terrible gear

[uncut lintel]

ok wait hang on

too far

[upper pasture]

Causal players

[rough tundra]

maybe it's just giving them a chance to gear up

[uncut lintel]

im a casual

[deep pawn]

I do LFR to see the raid once despite needing nothing from it

[uncut lintel]

lfr also gives something else to do and a chance at atleast 1 mount

[rough tundra]

it's not like it mattered this time because the story was shown in the campaign

[uncut lintel]

idc abt story

story is shit

[rough tundra]

not if you read the sylvanas book!

it fixed the story!

[uncut lintel]

sylvanas isnt a banshee anymore so that in itself is already telling u, its shit

expansion reveal soon

i wonder if i can sleep for 4 days straight

[rough tundra]

i think you'd need to pee at some point

[uncut lintel]

not if u dont drink anything

[rain cave]

that's.. not how it works lol

[uncut lintel]

i know but im foxy and im just sayin

[rain cave]

what does this even mean

[uncut lintel]

it means, u dont kno me

[rain cave]

🇸

[rough tundra]

a robot in a fur suit, obviously

[uncut lintel]

ok wtf

highmountain tauren have way beter customs than normal tauren

im make one

[rough tundra]

it's the war paint

[uncut lintel]

no

they have more hair better tails jewelry horn decorations and more

wtf

like way more hd and better looking than most normal tauren ones

[rough tundra]

what other things should only be represented in a single medium

[uncut lintel]

deez nutz

jk

[uncut lintel]

wdym by tis

[rough tundra]

lots of entertainment media have representations in other forms

[uncut lintel]

?

im talking abt highmountain tauren vs normal tauren customizations

what

highmountain tauren have feathers, beads, and way better wild looking customizations that look HD while normal tauren get flowers and they look flat

i know the feathers and shit are representation but how come normal tauren doesnt get pretty jewelry and wild looking hair and shit

[rough tundra]

for example

star wars novels

before some point, they were canon

why didn't they just make 200 10 hour long movies instead

[uncut lintel]

NO ONE CARES ABT STAR WARS

[rough tundra]

well some people do

they live their whole lives in star wars

[uncut lintel]

actually if u take it logically, we are already in star wars constantly, our planet is in constant risk of being struck by an astroid or something

[rough tundra]

yes, but in the books, some things happen that aren't really relevant to the movies and don't really play out in a significant way

but still sometimes reference major movie characters and sometimes have interactions that aren't referenced in the movies in any way

[uncut lintel]

shadowlands was a whole infinity war reference

[rough tundra]

but yes, highmountains have pretty stuff

but i think it was only because people complained that they had basically no customizations at first

so they had their teams come up with stuff

probably costed us a tier

[uncut lintel]

well alot of races dont have alot of customization still, atleast for allied races

i cant wait to see more vulpera customs

cmon cmon shorter tails plz

[rough tundra]

yeah most of the races seem to have been short-changed

but having messed with the game models, it's not quite that easy to just shit out 100 customizations

it's a lot of work and they already can't finish an expansion

[rain cave]

I genuinely don't get how it can be so bureaucratically fucked that just adding a few options is so much work

[rough tundra]

it's just the way their modelling/texturing pipeline is

it's ancient and you basically have to make a whole other model and then rig it

the textures aren't pallette-keyed, they're full color

so every "recolor" is a whole other texture, not some shifted value

[rain cave]

the biggest argument for a WoW 2 is a new fucking engine and system

[uncut lintel]

@rain cave be reminded they are still working on 20 yr old servers where u probably cant get easier editing and programming

[uncut lintel]

yea but wow 2 is dumb cuz no one wants to start all foccin over man

[rough tundra]

it's not that they don't have modern tools, it's that anything they do has to be compatible with fuckin the burning crusade

[deep pawn]

Nightborne customizations are good

[uncut lintel]

[uncut lintel]

yes true

who put a question mark on my comment

[ember blaze]

why?

[rain cave]

who said we would, and I wouldn't mind

[rough tundra]

the game's character models aren't just static models that you slap gear onto

[rain cave]

models and textures aren't evaporated upon making a new game

[uncut lintel]

i did not mean that

i meant ur items ur characters ur attachments and shit

[rough tundra]

the model itself changes to a shape that the gear has and the texture overwrites the model

[uncut lintel]

no one wants to start from 0

[deep pawn]

Direct sequels to MMOs seem to struggle

[rain cave]

guild wars 2

final fantasy 14

[ember blaze]

the very things that get thrown into the garbage can after a new patch?

[deep pawn]

14 was an entirely different game.

[rough tundra]

your character's body is literally getting morphed and recolord according to the gear

[uncut lintel]

ur confusing that with gear

[rain cave]

also expansions are just sequels

[ember blaze]

and why couldnt they just transfer over all achievements

[uncut lintel]

im p sure the game would be dead if our chars and shit got deleted each patch

[deep pawn]

I admittedly don't know enough about gw to say how successful it is.

[ember blaze]

and other rare stuff

[deep pawn]

Eq2 was weaker

[rough tundra]

so all new gear and customizations have to also allow you to wear 15 year old gear

[deep pawn]

Ac2 flopped compared to ac1

[rain cave]

AC?

[ember blaze]

what would have to be changed so the process isn't awful?

[rough tundra]

so any time they change the geometry of the model, they also have to factor in the 200 different geometries of all the gear items in the game

[deep pawn]

Asheron's Call. Ancient mmo

[uncut lintel]

like idc wut other game made a sequel, but having a "wow 2" is a bad idea in itself and ppl who want that just dont understand

[rain cave]

any adventure quest worlds fans

some better armour and weapon design than wow has had for past few years

[rough tundra]

there's just no way to "change" the core of wow. we'd have to start from scratch

[deep pawn]

I think gw2 might be the only one that is doing as well as it's predecessor if not better

[uncut lintel]

i played gw2 myself its not bad

[rain cave]

it's doing way better than its predecessor

[uncut lintel]

but i also didnt play gw2 for 15 yrs straight

[ember blaze]

so wow 2 😎

[rain cave]

GW2 is great for solo players I'd say

as well as amazing for social players

[ember blaze]

😂

[rough tundra]

unless they go back through all the expansions and re-model all of the gear to be static items we wear, then rework how textures are displayed and colored

[uncut lintel]

i dont wanna start from fucking scratch on something ive been playing for, basically my whole life just to have better graphics and bigger servers sure it sucks u cant do everything what newer games can do that are coming out but cmon man....

[deep pawn]

I think the current models are pretty good

[uncut lintel]

i agree other than some mounts from ZM

[ember blaze]

i dont think wow 2 would just be better graphics and servers

[rough tundra]

yeah, they just had to refactor the shapes of old gear into the new models

it was a ton of work

[uncut lintel]

i was just listing a few things

[ember blaze]

how many times have we been shown the age of this game

[uncut lintel]

many

[ember blaze]

like the bfa stuff

[uncut lintel]

and yet the game is still thriving

[ember blaze]

that they had to take a long time to figure out

so you can socket gear was it?

or corrupt it i forgot

[uncut lintel]

yea in bfa u can get corruptions

which tbf were fun

[deep pawn]

Wait, did they blame new models for why WoD lost a tier?

[ember blaze]

yeah but you couldnt corrupt old gear

[uncut lintel]

ofc not

[ember blaze]

but they managed to change it 🤔

anyways

[rough tundra]

no, wod's issue was something else

[uncut lintel]

wod go brrr

[ember blaze]

a lot of people want wow to be better and improve

[uncut lintel]

it is improving

[rough tundra]

they were going for "more frequent xpacks" but realized they couldn't

[uncut lintel]

other than story

[ember blaze]

and its age makes it difficult

[uncut lintel]

?

[rough tundra]

so halfway through wod's development they just put it in the toilet and shifted the whole team to legion

[uncut lintel]

and legion was the bset expansion ive ever played

im gonna cry

[rough tundra]

i liked wod, tbh. there wasn't much content but the content was good

[uncut lintel]

i played wod but i was so stuck up in my youth all i did was rp, hang out in garrison and get the aotc moose mount

i dont remember much from wod

[rough tundra]

the questing experience was great, the raids were great

tanaan was... ok

i liked the garrison even though we sat in them for too long

[uncut lintel]

i liked wod nagrand, spires, and shadowmoon valley for questing alot

still to this day aswell

garrison was nice but i still prefer class halls

[rough tundra]

i was underwhelmed by the class halls. they were fine. it was just meh for me

i liked bfa overall, as well

[uncut lintel]

i agree

on both of those

[ember blaze]

what was good about class halls

[rough tundra]

thematically, they were great

functionally.... eh

[ember blaze]

outside of just being a quest hub

[uncut lintel]

i bet most ppl liked it becuz u got free mounts (this is half joke btw)

[ember blaze]

and to pick your wep transmog

[uncut lintel]

they were kinda cool tbh, i ofc loved the druid one, i mained a druid and still do, was nice

they were also just chill

like you could just chill and listen to the theme

and feel like... ur in where u belong with ur class idk itwas weird but cool

[rough tundra]

shadowlands has been a mixed bag for me.
levelling quests: good
dungeons: good
the maw: no, barely did it. no thanks
torghast: sometimes fine, mostly ignored it
korthia: ugly but it satisfied my playloop desires
ZM: fantastic

[uncut lintel]

ZM is the best thing to ever happen during this expansion

[deep pawn]

Give WoD m+ and it'd be seen favorable

[uncut lintel]

wod doesnt have m+?

[rough tundra]

it had mythic

and challenge mode

but not M+

i did enjoy the mythic valor grind at the end of wod though

[uncut lintel]

they should do m+ for all timewalking events/xpacs

[ember blaze]

korthia was 🛌

[uncut lintel]

the most annoying thing to me in korthia was having to grapple to that one fucking island or fly on that thing praying ppl didnt burst the rare

[ember blaze]

ZM is probably the only new zone I can say I really liked

[deep pawn]

Oh if the two WoD dungeons are popular they'll make a full WoD m+ week and maybe MoP

[uncut lintel]

glad other ppl like ZM

its my fav zone

its like a korthia 2.0 but better

also better bcuz its not dark and gloomy and makes me feel more depressed than i actually am

[ember blaze]

i didnt find the questing tedious, the zone looks great, theres a progression system you can work towards as well

[rough tundra]

i managed to not need the grapple 99% of the time. i only wanted that one treasure and you could glide to it

[deep pawn]

My dream is by the end of 10.0 we have at least two m+ timewalking weeks a month

Rotate MoP, WoD, legion, and bfa

[ember blaze]

my only experiences are argus?, mechagon, korthia, the maw. And i cant say i liked any of those like ZM

[deep pawn]

Mechagon was amazing

[ember blaze]

the rng and terrain just put me off

[uncut lintel]

brb i needa drink

[ember blaze]

only thing I liked were the dungeons

for m+

[cunning fossil]

I thought the zone was pretty engaging eheh

[ember blaze]

I prefer ZM approach where running in a circle for an houir is optional

[rough tundra]

mechagon was pretty good

some people point at the terrain and say it was too busy or too plain and they can't agree

[ember blaze]

and flying not being tied to rep

[cunning fossil]

That's not a fault of methagon though

Only a fault of the dev philosophy

[uncut lintel]

it looks too busy to me which i liked, its one of reasons y i prefer it over nazjatar other than water, i hate it when zones feel so dead in current xpacs

[rain cave]

methagon

[cunning fossil]

Pfft

[rain cave]

now those gnomes I want to see

[deep pawn]

Mechagon gave pseudo flying early

[uncut lintel]

im supposed to be getting this new toon set up and im just distracted by this cha

t

[deep pawn]

I also liked how having the hard mode mount made you safer in the sky

[rough tundra]

they want us to do the content from the groud because it's infinitely easier to design it that way. i mostly agree witht he approach

maybe don't make us wait a year?

[ember blaze]

it did?

[deep pawn]

Yep, it reduced the aggro range a ton

[uncut lintel]

the amount of ppl who come back once everything is easier compared to currently playing the content

a year indeed

[ember blaze]

yeah, so why not simply tie it to the campaign finishing

[rough tundra]

a few weeks in after doing some daily stuff would be fine

[deep pawn]

I like how 14 does it. Tie it to story and zone exploration

[ember blaze]

i disagree with dailies

[uncut lintel]

: ( also can we get a mount everytime we have to re-earn flying

[rough tundra]

i'm already doing the daily stuff

[uncut lintel]

pleaaase

[deep pawn]

We do?

[uncut lintel]

no we dont

[ember blaze]

finishing the campaign youve already seen everything from the ground

[deep pawn]

Well we didn't with zm, but have every other time

[uncut lintel]

the meta for ZM did not gib mount :<

[ember blaze]

and seen the world as it was designed for

[uncut lintel]

did legion meta gib mount?

[deep pawn]

From A to Zereth has one.

[ember blaze]

and it's something you can complete even if you missed a day or two

unlike dailies

[deep pawn]

Yeah, in legion you unlocked flying when you got your class mount

[uncut lintel]

u did?

i thought uh ad to earn it seperately

nvm then

[rough tundra]

i think flying was a mistake anyway

[deep pawn]

In BFA you got the Mecha parrot, shadowlands you got a covenant mount

[rough tundra]

they regretted it from day 1

[uncut lintel]

yea true i forgot abt that ugly parrot

[rough tundra]

take out flying

take out portals

everything is walking

[deep pawn]

Removing flying I'd just quit

[rough tundra]

we have to sit on a tram to get to draenor and it took real time

get on, stay logged in for two weeks

[uncut lintel]

i dont mind walking but having to get meta everytime i want flying is tiring, or almost everytime, like just make everyone walk for first month then just wa-jam kabam instantly give everyone flying when u think time is right

again i dont mind walking but man

[ember blaze]

are you sure

[uncut lintel]

take one thing to re-earn off my list atleast

[ember blaze]

i dont think i ever got my class mount in legion

and i have pathfinder

[uncut lintel]

yea he is right

u must have gotten it no way u didnt

[ancient jasper]

Nah he's wrong on that part

[uncut lintel]

[ember blaze]

what is the name for the priest one

[uncut lintel]

uhhh

sparkly overly bright old modeled grpyphon skeleton user?

idk

[ember blaze]

it was that owl thing

[uncut lintel]

yea

i forgot the name of it

im on my druid so i cant see other versions but heres one

[ember blaze]

yeah i dont have it

and i played priest during legion

[uncut lintel]

hmm

idk then

[deep pawn]

Hmm, swore you had to earn at least one for the meta

[uncut lintel]

now its just even more confusing

[ancient jasper]

Nah you just needed Revered with all the Factions and to finish the Suramar campaign

[uncut lintel]

oh really?

[deep pawn]

No, pathfinder part two definitely required legionfall content

Was timegated

Revered and suramar was ground speed boost

[ancient jasper]

There that's what you needed for Pathfinder 1/2

[deep pawn]

I'm thinking then it was timed that you hit revered as you finished breaking the tomb. Legionfall commander was part of it in ptr but may have been removed?

[subtle oar]

Nope. Its all about exploration and reps

[uncut lintel]

i like how everyone was like "wait how did we get flying again"?

[deep pawn]

Yeah, it was on ptr then and they removed it but it was timed such you got it the same week anyways

At least I did

[uncut lintel]

my game has been lagging ever since 9.2 patch and ive tried everything to fix itb ut nothing is working

and i just got parts for my pc not long ago to stop this main reason

fml

:< blizzard y u do this

[ember blaze]

maybe it's your addons/was

[uncut lintel]

my addons never effect my game tho D;

in a bad way

and if they did i legit cant play without em

maybe its my weather that making it worse today but ever since 9.2 the world latency for me has been 100-120 instead of staying 80-90s

when my home latency is normal usually

[rough tundra]

there were a couple of days where my latency was funky but it's usually on tuesdays when people are making huge groups for world boss

[deep pawn]

Drakthyr sounds fantasy enough to me.

[deep pawn]

Ooo, YouTube premier is up.

[cunning fossil]

O:

[rough tundra]

Kind of early to set that up huh? They really want the hype

[glass flicker]

Blizzard have always been the kings of hype.

[cunning fossil]

Been Hype

[deep pawn]

Eh, scheduling a premiere is pretty easy

Does mean the video is a data file somewhere haha

[strange falcon]

This is the first time they go this hard with "watchparty" , ads about the reveal,
They never did this before for expac reveals because they didn't need to,

They're pushing this very hard, maybe they aren't so blind to the state of the game afterall

[rough tundra]

They've always had blizzcon

Didn't need a hype machine outside of that because we knew it was coming

[rough tundra]

RiP blizzcon

[vernal juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3nPloFgHkM

zzz

already link up 😄

[rough tundra]

They don't want us to miss it

[uncut lintel]

[young latch]

I’m so nervous 👀

[uncut lintel]

im not

either its gonna be cool or its gonna be dissapointing

[young latch]

I want it to be cool. But shadowlands beginning also looked cool to me at the beginning at least.

[rough tundra]

Just don't expect anything and whatever they show is gonna be hype

It's just not going to live up to the wish list you have in your head

[strange falcon]

The initial cinematic is always hype, never been not so,

Wod trailer was hype -> content quality good but too little of it, 6.1 was literally a selfie patch, expac with the most cut content.
Bfa trailer was hype -> stopped being about faction war 2patches in, also systems bad.
SL trailer was hype -> double 8month content drought, meh systems, we know how it turned out

The trailer is more preorder bait than anything

[strange falcon]

The "i expected nothing and im still disappointed" is a possibility in terms of actual content of the expac, not the trailer itself

[rough tundra]

Right i meant more like the feature liist they show with the reveal

[uncut lintel]

@strange falcon im hyped i mean who wouldnt be but not overly hyped to the point i start making up scenarios in my head on things most ppl want bcuz ik they wont come true

[strange falcon]

The bar for you to be hyped touched the floor years ago, so im not surprised you are

[uncut lintel]

what

the fuck is the brawlers guild at for horde

[strange falcon]

Man i cant wait for a core system that wont be accountwide until a year and a half into the expac, truly top quality gameplay /s

[uncut lintel]

r u saying im not hyped bcuz its on the floor or wut

DAFIRE STOP LAUGHING

ANSWER ME

lol u using that emoji cuz u dont haev nitro

now u remove them but not answer me

cold

@strange falcon ykno wut i just realized the shirt i want i cant get cuz they removed brawlesr guild

rip

[glass flicker]

[young latch]

If teldrasil didn’t happen I would have liked bfa

[glass flicker]

And then there's me, asking for Brawler's Guild to return for months.

[uncut lintel]

i found the brawlers guild fun, i had someone here in this server help me get bruce

i wish i did more afterwards

[young latch]

I liked island adventures even though they were apparently not popular

[glass flicker]

I never got Bruce. I thought he looks lame.

[uncut lintel]

wtf

im offended

[glass flicker]

Ok.

[uncut lintel]

mood

[strange falcon]

Islands suffered the same fate as torghast, they were never iterated on enough to the point they became good, and then they got abandoned after expac

[uncut lintel]

yea but the best thing is atleast islands gave u rewards instead of torghast giving u 2 mounts

[young latch]

I think torgast is gonna see long term use as a leveling alternative

Which is kind of cool

[uncut lintel]

doubt

[strange falcon]

From what i saw, the torghast xp was nowhere near enough for people to do it instead of much faster methods

Idk if they increased it like 10times

[uncut lintel]

its still fucking like, after a few layers i get bored and wanna leae

leave

[glass flicker]

Infinite Torghast was fun.

[young latch]

Oh I never got bored in torghast I always felt excited to try a different build

[strange falcon]

Ye, beta torghast had all the content creators praising it

[uncut lintel]

i gtg try to solo heroic trilliax in nighthold

[glass flicker]

One shotting the Tarragrue like.

[strange falcon]

But they had to shackle it down and limit it because it had to be mandatory for player power

[uncut lintel]

man they should let ppl have fun

but thats illegal

if ur playing content like torghast and not open world let ppl burst off not limit them

so stupid

[young latch]

I don’t even dislike torgast in its current state but they gotta learn to let optional things be optional

[glass flicker]

Uh, just make it infinite but add cosmetic rewards as well as the power awarded on floor 6?

[strange falcon]

Eh, there really isnt that many builds, too little powers,
You should play an actual roguelike, torghast is like a scribble on a piece of paper compared to those

[glass flicker]

It would have been that easy.

[uncut lintel]

cosmetic rewards, aka more recolored gear

[glass flicker]

You get what you pay for.

[uncut lintel]

ok maybe im too hrash

[young latch]

Thing is— I already enjoy how most of my classes play. So adding additional complexity to that is enough for me

[uncut lintel]

i dont mind recolors but i dont like it when they are 90% bland, add more sparkles and effects is mainly wut iw ant

i sound like an ass when im not explaining why i dislike something

[young latch]

Fire juggler on fire mage is fun as hell

[glass flicker]

90% bland? Are you mad? I can't walk into Orgrimmar without seeing people with 69k particles on each shoulderpad.

[uncut lintel]

i meant

[glass flicker]

Bland gear is a blessing in an era when pointless geometry = armour.

[strange falcon]

Both the sanctum and sepulcher sets are quite bland tbh

[uncut lintel]

add the effects to more stuff not just shoulders

bland is good for simpleness but i prefer overly sparkly

might just be my

bias

[young latch]

I think I dislike any sets that look too busy

[uncut lintel]

deez nutz is too busy

[young latch]

Doubt

[uncut lintel]

yea im a girl so 100% doubt

[uncut lintel]

i think sparkles and shit just make everything pop out more, i even use them in my own art alot, so might just be me then who wants that

tho nothing wrong with simple mogs either

TOO BAD SOME PIECES OF MOG THO LOOK GOOD BUT MATCH WITH LITERALLY NOTHINGG

[young latch]

For me the stuff I dislike is when it looks like a robot with too many metal curls but there’s a fuck ton of detail put into it but nonart direction towards class fantasy

Like shadowlands leveling gear and bastion heavy armor looks really bad to me

[uncut lintel]

yes

i get it

sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt

@demon

oh fuk

@glass flicker i accidentally called u demon sorry, anyway wyd?

[young latch]

I like the zerith mortis warlock shoulders a lot but those sets in general look like messes to me

[uncut lintel]

the tier sets concept art looks so much better, then theres that one person who edited it for the class fantasy which is 100x better than blizzard has done for years

[young latch]

Yeah agreed

[glass flicker]

I'm about to go home from work. It's raining tho.

[uncut lintel]

ok stay safe

[young latch]

But it didn’t translate well into 3d art

[uncut lintel]

bcuz they didnt put enough effort

ik u cant get it 1 to 1 exact but cmon

[young latch]

I hope they’ll try for more elegant down to earth styles in the future

[uncut lintel]

[young latch]

Give us a mage set with a hood with physics for instance

[uncut lintel]

🤔 is there even any hoods with physics other than feathers

[young latch]

Nope

[uncut lintel]

might be too difficult but idk

[young latch]

Leather and heavy armor just always get the most detailed things

Cloth almost always gets the repainted robe mesh.

[uncut lintel]

IK

[glass flicker]

I mean, warlocks still get cool sets.

[uncut lintel]

i think some cloth mogs r amazing but like bruh, also i hate how they think all clothies wanna wear robes, WHAT IF I WANT TO USE PANTSS

shirt and robe options for all future clothies plz for mog

[young latch]

I want robes that have a different shape

Than the one mesh

[glass flicker]

I want robes that don't fully cover the legs. More like coats.

[young latch]

Yes

Like proper robes

[glass flicker]

And maybe robes that literally use the tabard texture.

[uncut lintel]

i thnik gear for all things need to pop out more, esp for clothies and robes, just have more 3d things and not look like how i draw shit, 2d and flat

[glass flicker]

Texture?

[uncut lintel]

no

[glass flicker]

Flap thing.

[uncut lintel]

like actual

idk how to explain it

[glass flicker]

Yea.

[young latch]

It’s kind of embarrassing that the best cloth robe in the game is the fairie dragon transmog costume

[glass flicker]

Here's another thing they did in BfA but was lacking with everything else.

The leather dungeon set had a collar and glove 3D bit.

Why not the rest of the sets?

[uncut lintel]

actually best robe is the star one

[young latch]

It has that same old mesh that bothers me

[uncut lintel]

@glass flicker i liked alot of bfa sets including questing ones but still not better than legion, though all mythic BOD sets look badass ill kill to have the plate one one ady

day

oh it does

i wonder why they dont change it then

[young latch]

The faerie dragon robe is a proper new mesh piece entirely

[uncut lintel]

i want a trench coat

[glass flicker]

Here's something they could do. Add 3D bits we could just add to armour whenever.

[uncut lintel]

LOL

[glass flicker]

Like those cloak backpacks but improved.

[uncut lintel]

in ur dreams

[glass flicker]

Let me dream.

[uncut lintel]

i do to its ok

here comes dafire again

someone post the gif

[strange falcon]

And guess why? Because store stuff is 3thousand times better than anything we can get ingame, because $$$,
Why would you buy something that doesnt look much prettier than what you can get ingame

[glass flicker]

I don't have the gif.

[uncut lintel]

not this argument again

id still buy store items if they put same amount of effort into game items

[glass flicker]

Dafire relating the topic of Asmongold playing Vampire Survivors to WoW bad.

[uncut lintel]

but ppl get so sensitive and overly protective of store items when they themselfs dont even buy anything from it

[young latch]

The fucking store robe uses that same mesh tho

[uncut lintel]

yea i thought the gold on the robe was 3d but i was wrong

[strange falcon]

Sure, but the rest of the set looks very kool, it even has a unique ground shadow effect

[uncut lintel]

my druid cloak didnt drop u guys

im sad

[glass flicker]

It does?

[strange falcon]

It does like a symbol on the ground under your character if i remember right

[uncut lintel]

yea

i was the star effect wasnt from the cloak tho

[young latch]

Idk it looks bad to me

[uncut lintel]

i still think the wendigo woolies is the best stoer mog

blizzcon mog wutever

[strange falcon]

You'd buy anything they put on the store even if it was a flaming 💩
Your opinion doesnt count

[young latch]

The antorus mage tier set looks better to me than the star robes

[uncut lintel]

my opinion does count

i play the game

whens the last time u played?

[young latch]

And that was 4 years ago

[uncut lintel]

alot of legion mogs look way better than most current

legion was bis tho so wut can u say

[strange falcon]

You mean you weren't blindly shitting on the game literally every hour until blizzard wiggled the cat store mount in your face, and you debased yourself to beg for money in a feverish fervor to resub to the game

I remember the whole thing

[uncut lintel]

?

i still shit on it to this day

wdym

[young latch]

Why is this phrased so horny

[uncut lintel]

wtf

[rain cave]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[uncut lintel]

also idk wut the word debased means

[strange falcon]

Projecting

[uncut lintel]

u act like i was never gonna come back to the game tho everytime u bring that up

i was gonna come back sooner or later

store mount or not

ur just mad i cant quit

for ur own feelings

think of WoW as a toilet

u shit on it but u still use it daily

ahaha ok that actually funny

im a funny person

[strange falcon]

Well, seeing people being miserable is surely not what i want to see,
🤔
But it is true that you accepted this state so i dont care

[uncut lintel]

yea idc either

then again tho idc abt people in general so

atleast irl

[glass flicker]

But you care about them online, despite the anonymity of online.

[uncut lintel]

yea

online is not real life

its y i like it so much

[young latch]

A n y w a y,
Back to mogs: i think they did a very good job on the faerie dragon mog and wanna see more effort like that put into models

[glass flicker]

To never show your face, say your name, and other things. That's why hackers are so dangerous.

[glass flicker]

I hate that one, tbh. The only good parts are the shoulders and belt.

[uncut lintel]

yea but then u can slo get the new pet and the old mount and 100% be ready for the next xpac

[young latch]

It has one of the best chest models in the game imo

[uncut lintel]

I AGREE

[glass flicker]

Not my style but fair enough.

It's a whole 3D bit.

Well, the skirt and shoulders wrap thingy.

[young latch]

The chest alone looks like something any magic user could wear

The hood is the thing I don’t use

[strange falcon]

The concept art for the "maw"/sanctum sets are very cool,

Then you see ingame models, and its almost all painted on,
3D bits too expensive to put ingame

[glass flicker]

Imagine if we got an entire tier set with no 3D bits, simple helm and a single shoulderpad.

WoD era like.

And the mythic version only adds glows for eyes.

[young latch]

I thought the sanctum sets were reused legendary pieces

[glass flicker]

They were.

[young latch]

That was a very lazy move imo

[glass flicker]

It was to be expected. They said the legendaries will become appearances later in the expansion.

[uncut lintel]

[strange falcon]

You mean the same company that is the undisputed king of reusing assets and cutting corners is lazy?
Preposterous.

They could have made the maw appearances rewards from torghast and given sanctum its own sets

[tulip goblet]

anyone got an idea when will be the next expansion? Im thinking about buying SL but with todays news i dont know anymore if its still worth to buy it

[uncut lintel]

sometime in 2023

[young latch]

They put more effort into the zm quest gear than the sod sets tho lol

Effort is there it just gets put in mind boggling places

[strange falcon]

They had to prove that "its the most alien place you've ever seen"

And its just pastel-colors nagrand

[glass flicker]

Again with the WoW bad because Blizzard bad.

[uncut lintel]

bcuz thats true

?

[glass flicker]

I'm not defending them, but that's kind of low.

[uncut lintel]

atleast some

blizzard is bad company and they gave up on their own game basically so ofc wow is not that good as it was 4 yrs ago

[tulip goblet]

so should i wait and see how long till next expansion or dont buy SL at all

[young latch]

The helms completely transform your head into a blue flame for those quest sets lol

[strange falcon]

I dont doubt there is talented artists on the wow team, the art team has never disappointed,
Its the systems and gameplay teams that more often than not fuck the whole thing up

[uncut lintel]

the systems ruin it

[strange falcon]

Just wait until SL becomes free after next expac comes out

[uncut lintel]

if he can handle waiting a year

[young latch]

The art team for armor do disappoint sometimes imho

[tulip goblet]

yeah but is there any deadline for next expansion to come out

[glass flicker]

Less systems, simpler gameplay that doesn't get overshadowed by 69 fucking add-ons, which Blizzard tries to make the mechanics hard for specifically.

[uncut lintel]

idk wut goes on there but who knows, art team probably doesnt get much choise

choice

[strange falcon]

You can be almost certain it isnt coming out this year

[young latch]

Quite frequently for cloth

[uncut lintel]

just wait for the stream in 3 days mate if u really wanna know

[tulip goblet]

i mean, if they are doing event in revealing next expansion in 3 days i think it will be in next few months

[uncut lintel]

LOL

[strange falcon]

😂

[uncut lintel]

U R KIDDING

[tulip goblet]

alright

[uncut lintel]

IN NEXT FEW MONTHS WE ARE GETTING 9.2.5 NOT A NEW XPAC

IM DONE

[glass flicker]

Look at every sword in the game and tell me it doesn't have downsides some players prefer while others may not.

[tulip goblet]

well

[uncut lintel]

dude

no

[glass flicker]

I said sword as example. Any weapon does.

[tulip goblet]

then looks like im gonna buy SL

[uncut lintel]

we are most likely getting xpac in a year somewhat in maybe early or mid 2023

if u cant handle waiting that long just buy SL it not like itll matter bcuz by then youd already have gotten the money back

[young latch]

It usually takes at least 6 months after a patch and 9.2.5 isn’t out

[tulip goblet]

but 2 years from SL start gonna be somewhere in november

[uncut lintel]

?

wat

i said early or mid 2023, not late 2023

i was meaning like maybe around feb or august

wtf

[glass flicker]

Blizzard aren't exactly timely with their game releases.

They may even delay.

[strange falcon]

Wows art/armor looks best, when the concept artists know the limits of the engine,
Almost all the legion sets are veery close to the concept art, unlike SL

[uncut lintel]

id rather late and better than early and getting bored

[tulip goblet]

i mean they did a cycle with these 2 years as far as i know

with expansions

[uncut lintel]

yes they do

but sl got delayed iirc

so that might effect future xpac releases, who knows tho, id prefer on em to work on it more anyway, though with how SL came out i guess it doesnt rlly matter

[tulip goblet]

well if it really looks llike mid 2023 im gonna buy it prolly

[uncut lintel]

im half joking dafire dont hit me

also take my comment with assumption not fact

[strange falcon]

It got delayed and fixed major bugs, but didnt address major systems concerns....we had to wait for the playerbase to bleed dry for them to realise "oh wait you guys were right" and do 9.1.5

[uncut lintel]

im assuming early or mid 2023

[glass flicker]

Dafire preparing to Quantum Bonk Foksi.

[tulip goblet]

even if its late 2022 like november

[uncut lintel]

i 100% know its not 2022

[uncut lintel]

i know

i even said it

[tulip goblet]

will they announce date of next expansion on stream or only name

[uncut lintel]

yea but just bcuz that is coming out in 2022 doesnt mean the game will

thats like seeing a movie trailer and expecting it to be out in a week when it says coming soon at the end

[strange falcon]

Announcing a date already would put too much expectations for them to ship it in time, i find it unlikely but not impossible

[glass flicker]

I mean... We haven't received any major CGI cinematics this year. I'm ready for WoW's 10.0 to be good.

[uncut lintel]

also i just realized i misread that comment

gratz

[glass flicker]

10.0 cinematic*

[uncut lintel]

the cinematics make it all for me

[tulip goblet]

well imma buy it i guess

[uncut lintel]

i sometimes rewatch all of them xpac cinamatics ujst for fun

te chills

[young latch]

I still think the systems concerns were overplayed and the actual problem was excessive time gating

[strange falcon]

Necessary correction,
Cinematic never disappoints in terms of graphics tho

[tulip goblet]

i have like a half a year to do SL content

thats enough i guess

[uncut lintel]

yea u do and its easier each patch

due to catch up mechs

[glass flicker]

Yes, it does.

[tulip goblet]

is it easy to earn up for token in SL tho?

[uncut lintel]

if you have no experience with how to make over 200k in a month, no

[glass flicker]

The BfA cinematic disappointed me.

[strange falcon]

They have a really bad habit of making half decent or good systems(like essences) and royally fucking them up on the acquisition part

[uncut lintel]

honestly it was chills i fuckin loved it o-o

sylvanas doign her banshee shit

UGH NUT

[rain cave]

god I know that it's unlikely to come out 2022 but fucking hell it's going to be so long to wait

[young latch]

Those covenant stories were not worth the wait was my big turnoff

[tulip goblet]

so is it possible to earn token in SL currently?

[uncut lintel]

2022 will be fine for me, alot of shows and movies coming out this yr that will keep me occupied

i meant as a waiting game

[young latch]

And the anima price of cosmetics was waaaaaaay too high

[uncut lintel]

30k anima for a recolored transmog set

when mounts are way less

[uncut lintel]

it is possible but i said above, if u dont have experience to make hundreds of thousends of gold in a single month, it will be hard

[strange falcon]

Thats the entire reason they're trying desperately to stem the tide of the bleeding with the season 4 changes

This wowhead comment is right on the money
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/916772082371665941/955899869250326598/Screenshot_20220322-194402_DuckDuckGo.png

[glass flicker]

We are working on it.

That's how.

[young latch]

Like 50k for the queen’s conservatory recolors

It’s insane

[uncut lintel]

50k

[rain cave]

SoonTM

[uncut lintel]

i think i prefer to just get azerite (this is a joke dont hit me)

[glass flicker]

I'd prefer to just farm garrison resources and spend them for gold at the salvage yard.

I miss that shit.

[uncut lintel]

well i just realized i stayed up all night without realizing it

[young latch]

Anima is fine with sane pricing

[uncut lintel]

its 7 am

[tulip goblet]

wdym? Arent gathering a thing?

[strange falcon]

Hyperinflation happened due to the garrison, then orderhalls

[uncut lintel]

yes but that isnt wut i meant

[tulip goblet]

when i bought BFA it was so easy to farm on token

[uncut lintel]

i dont farm tokens myself tho due to being so lazy and unmotivated so if u wanna try to farm tokens in SL if u did in BFa just google it

[glass flicker]

That's just WoW players being insane.

[tulip goblet]

is buying wow expansion from sites like eneba a risk or nah

cause its way cheaper there

[young latch]

I don’t miss warfronts

Fuck warfronts holy shit

[uncut lintel]

@tulip goblet dude just buy it from original site

if u cant afford the game in the first place honestly might not even be worth it

[tulip goblet]

yeah but you know

[uncut lintel]

no i dont know

[tulip goblet]

there is a huge difference

[uncut lintel]

i mean i also dont want u getting scammed so ykno but u do u i guess

[rain cave]

get the expansion cheaper so you can buy a boost

[tulip goblet]

i mean if they ban accs for that

not that i will get scammed cause i know eneba is safe

[uncut lintel]

i literally dont buy anything blizzard, if its not from blizzard app or shop itself or at walmart

[rain cave]

usually those large CD key sites are fine, since they're based on reputation and scamming people loses reputation

I've bought loads of things from kinguin, for example

[uncut lintel]

idk, i just think unless its official site, its always sus

i just overly safe

with shit like that

[tulip goblet]

i bought ton of shit on eneba and ive never got scammed so if blizz doesnt ban accounts for that i guess ill do it

[rain cave]

just look at reviews on the site

they won't ban accounts

[tulip goblet]

alr then

[rain cave]

blizz made those CD keys in the first place

[uncut lintel]

they only ban bots

and ppl who dont read tos, oh wait i didnt read it iether, i just learn things from ppl getting banned

[young latch]

What you mean this isnt a reliable wow code??? Wow looks like this

[uncut lintel]

LMFAO

[glass flicker]

What.

[uncut lintel]

all ads are horny ads

[rain cave]

blizz don't read their own ToS and half the shit in the ToS isn't even really a thing they'd actually ban you for they're just covering their ass

[tulip goblet]

oh wait

there is 50% off on SL at blizz store

[uncut lintel]

oh really?

[glass flicker]

Epic edition was 75 euros?

[uncut lintel]

THE LIZARD MOUNT ON THE STORE IS 34 DOLLARS

I DINT KNOW THIS

[glass flicker]

It was 60 when I got it.

[uncut lintel]

and i literally cant get it bcuz im poor as dirt fuck my life

[tulip goblet]

guuess i will go with heroic edition 😄

[uncut lintel]

when do they usually have sales?

every holiday ? or just certain ones o-o

[tulip goblet]

yesterday there wasnt sales as far as i know

so its must be fresh

[uncut lintel]

im gonna have to wait atleast another year to get that stupid overly priced lizard mount when it goes on sale

[young latch]

I think I’d maybe buy 3 or 5 dollar mounts. I can’t really justify 30 bucks on an mmo mount

[tulip goblet]

is that mount good from heroic ed?

[uncut lintel]

its normally 60 dollars for one mount if u dont play classic, its on sale and this is cheapeast ive seen it, last time it was 45 and 40 dollars

why cant it just be 25 dollars in retail store seperately

fucking idiots ihate this company

[rain cave]

I want the elune transmog set

but that shits expensive af

[uncut lintel]

which one

[rain cave]

the elune one

[uncut lintel]

theres multiple elune sets

which one

[rain cave]

there's only one set you can buy

[tulip goblet]

you are talking about that mount from heroic ed?

[uncut lintel]

thats an elune set?

looked more like mage to me

[uncut lintel]

no

[young latch]

I get most store mounts for free with the 6 month sub so I just do that

[uncut lintel]

i want this lizard mount so bad

:<

ugh

god damn it blizzard

[young latch]

Is that an elune set

[uncut lintel]

see i thought this was a mage set, due to it having a book

[young latch]

It looks like algalon/titans to me

[rain cave]

it's got stars

and night elven theming

[uncut lintel]

yea but it has a book

[rain cave]

so to me it reads as elune like

[uncut lintel]

that usulaly isnt an elune thing

[rain cave]

elune has crossovers with the titan themes

[young latch]

Yeah elune can’t read

[rain cave]

however titan themes aren't all curvy and nice usually

[uncut lintel]

it does match my cat form tho

[rain cave]

it's the night elven pattern that gets me

[young latch]

I don’t see one

[young latch]

How is that nelfy

[rain cave]

similar to this style

[uncut lintel]

nice

is that set even in the game

[rain cave]

because it's certainly not titan themed

it's similar to night elf aesthetic

is what I am saying

or highborne

it doesn't read as a titan set to me

more elune

🤷‍♂️

[uncut lintel]

ok ok children

[rain cave]

that's just what I thought when I saw it

[uncut lintel]

calm down

[young latch]

The connected constellations are what make me think titan and not elune

[rain cave]

elune has had that though

[young latch]

The algalon room

[rain cave]

ysera

boomkins

[uncut lintel]

ok lets be real here

if it was 100% elune, it would have a moon with a circle in te middle

[young latch]

Ye

[rain cave]

then maybe it's just intentionally vague to ccover all of that faction

[uncut lintel]

when this set came out, i think it matched mage due to it being stars from ulduar and algalon boss and he is made of stars the same model as this transmog, i did not see it as a druid mog like the faerie dragon one

[rain cave]

of arcany celestial stuff

[uncut lintel]

discord is so distracting

[young latch]

The hood and shoulders kinda atrocious tho

[uncut lintel]

AW FUCK

I JOINED A DUNGEON AND FORGOT, I WENT AFK BY ACCIDENT AND GOT KCIKED BCUZ IM TALKING IN DISCORD

OOPS

[rain cave]

friend posted this

[strange falcon]

Someone reminded me of this from "november 21st 2021"
And funnily enough most of the spaces have been checked
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/908081980107796490/gm7pdfq1oty71.png

[strange falcon]

Personally dont like this bingo that much,
Its more a collection of "leaks" put together

[rain cave]

that's all I'm seein

tho I guess it was a pretty decent bingo card

@strange falcon

[rain cave]

yeah but tbf the leaks are just peoples bingo cards

just formatted in a different way

[strange falcon]

I think "sylvanas forgiven" is one,
The real reason bein "oh split soul bs" idk i dont really count it as a real reason but im not a lore buff.

Leaders work together is a bingo because cross faction is in 9.2.5, do we still count that 9.2(?) and was announced after patch came out i think

Anduin was rescued with no long term consequences, its his choice to stick around in the SL not a long term consequence.

Do we count the sylv "punishment" as resolution for teldrassil?

And nobody really questions sylvanas choices, they just go "sylv bad" and get shut up in the next 10seconds as far as i know

[rain cave]

I'd say people are happy with how sylvanas was handled, she accepted what she did was bad and wasn't given forgiveness

she's paying the price

also we haven't seen the long term consequences of anduin being freed

the reason he chose to stay is because he himself says he's not ready to come back after what's happened

I'd say stepping down as king for a while is a pretty big consequence

and also yeah sylvanas is try to resolve what happened with teldrassil

[strange falcon]

If doing dailies in the maw is the punishment for the multiple war crimes and genocide sylvanas did,
Then idk how the players should feel after they did just that for 8 months(16 if you count korthia)

[rain cave]

nice meme but it's not just that

she's going to get every last damn soul that she sent there back out

not just azeroth and teldrassil

[strange falcon]

Isnt that just endlessly repeatable maw dailies instead of well...daily.

[rain cave]

I don't see your point

[strange falcon]

You often dont yes

[rain cave]

like sure it's LITERALLY a similar thing

but so what

is that bad?

if you have a gripe with sylvanas's treatment just say it outright :p

instead of vague unrelated statements that imply malcontent without the cause/reason

[strange falcon]

Im just making a connection between sylvanas's punishment(for all the horrors she did)

To what the actual players of the game had to do for a year.
You could even say that the players were being punished themselves

[rain cave]

it's almost like people see sylvanas's remorse is real and that she WANTS to attone

so instead of just letting her rot in a jail forever

they put her to work

to right her wrongs best she can

she has no freedom from it though

player characters we did it because we're the goodies but also we were free to just not

sylvanas is condemned to it until she finishes

basically forced community service but much heavier

tbf once she's finished there will probably be more punishment awaiting

they're just using this as a way to get her out the way for a while and do some good

[strange falcon]

Who told you players were free to just not, don't you know that you need venari rep to exalted before raid comes out so you can buy the sockets for your gear or ppl wont take you into mythic raid

Im only half exaggerating here

[rain cave]

you're free to not get a job

like the option to not do it is there

and even then sockets aren't much

obv mythic people like it but

they're not that big a deal

but your argument is false/ bad faith imo

because you're misconstruing defunct gameplay systems with lore

[strange falcon]

They weren't defunct before 9.1 and for korthia before 9.2

So more like freshly deceased

[uncut vault]

the denying tyrande justice one got answered

its a terrible answer, that makes no sense

but its unfortunately an answer lol

[cunning fossil]

Saving this for tuesday

Hmm

Now that I think about it, with the Expac Reveal ona ntuesday

Do y'all think something pops up on that Tuesday when pre orders roll out,

Or nah?

At least on PTR

[strange falcon]

Most likely to be 9.2.5 ptr

[cunning fossil]

https://twitter.com/DandyRohandy/status/1515119667228069894?t=fTPqPbXri4bO6nNeL6itxw&s=19

RohandyDandy - Suffering from Macho Madness (@DandyRohandy)

@SydeGaming @dragovianknight HOOOLY SHIT THEY AAAARE

Twitter · Apr 16, 2022, 12:07 AM

Kek

Lmao

[cunning fossil]

Oh I K OW it's 9.2.5 PTR, what I mean is they may be holding something back and preventing us from seeing it on PTR

Like Allied Races and features like that

Stuff u can't get until u pre order and stuff

[strange falcon]

Then it would be in the preorder

How is it "preventing you from seeing it" if its on the preorder page

[uncut lintel]

plz rell me this isnt real

[rain cave]

it's just a survey

[cunning fossil]

It seems to be for now

[uncut lintel]

i knolw but why is it on a fukcing survey

[rain cave]

they're literally seeing how much the community hates it

[uncut lintel]

if they add this shit i stg

[strange falcon]

I mean, even if it wasnt real, its plausible, of course they want more money

[uncut lintel]

im qiutting

no joke

[cunning fossil]

I don't like what it's asking.

[uncut lintel]

if they ever do that

[strange falcon]

Nah you wont

[uncut lintel]

i will

[strange falcon]

😂

[uncut lintel]

i dont support crypto or that scam shit

[rain cave]

don't you want NFTransmog

[uncut lintel]

no

i hate nfts

[cunning fossil]

Hell no

[uncut lintel]

so much

[rain cave]

crypto is neutral by itself

[cunning fossil]

Fuck that shit

[uncut lintel]

id literally ujst go play ff14

[rain cave]

and NFT's whilst stupid

are harmless

Id say

[uncut lintel]

THEY ARE NOT

HARMLESS

[cunning fossil]

Crypto is just bad

[rain cave]

but they're just scam ridden and cringe

[cunning fossil]

They suck so much energy away from everyone else

[uncut lintel]

they literally are scams and enviremental damage is out of control more than its ever been

its not fucking harmless

[cunning fossil]

^^^^^^

[uncut lintel]

ppl are idiots

[rain cave]

environmental damage from crypto is overblown af

[strange falcon]

If i got that survey, id click "very interested" just to see them put it in and get backlash

😂

[uncut lintel]

nft over breathable air be like:

[rain cave]

and I've seen NFT's that are clean done by good artists

[uncut lintel]

idc

[rain cave]

NFT's have bad actors, because it was a grey market explosion

[cunning fossil]

Yeah a picture of a fucking ape is not worth wasting a city's worth of energy spent

[rain cave]

but now it's settled

[uncut lintel]

all nft supporters r ppl who i would not ever be friends with

[cunning fossil]

^^^

[rain cave]

there's a lot of smaller NFT shit that's pretty wholesome

[uncut lintel]

idc

[rain cave]

like people selling clean NFT's

that aren't just bad taste variations of the same art

[uncut lintel]

anything that supports nfts are idiots and scams, there is NO clean nft, no matter how much u wanna believe it

ppl are just blind

[cunning fossil]

It's still bad. I recommend everyone stay away from NFTs

LITERALLY just commission an artist. What is the difference between an NFT and commissioned art??

[uncut lintel]

just stop

[cunning fossil]

Like bro just commission someone lmao

[uncut lintel]

yea

U can literally get like 5 art pieces that look like wow level for way less than u pay for a shitty nft to use as a pixelated pfp

[cunning fossil]

^^^^^^^

[uncut lintel]

fucking rich ppl are braindead and need to get a fucking life

[strange falcon]

I am against the very concept of NFTs,
Because you dont own anything,
Its like owning a piece of paper that says in crayons "u own dis" that isnt worth anything

[rain cave]

see I don't like NFT's either, but I think that being so completely disregarding of them as a concept isn't the way to go about it

I just dislike them

they're not my thing

[cunning fossil]

What do they provide to humanity?

Legit

Especially a WoW NFT

What would that do lmao

[uncut lintel]

it is a way to go abt it, it was meant to help artists, but ppl turned it around so much THE LITERAL INVENTOR OF THE SHIT DISOWNED IT what does that say

[rain cave]

do things have to better humanity to exist?

[upper pasture]

that's like saying what does art provide to humanity

[rain cave]

NFT's are just another medium of art buying

there's no difference

[strange falcon]

Oof, that was a bad move WAI

[uncut lintel]

omfg

[rain cave]

however NFT's by en large are cringe af

[uncut lintel]

god if ur real take me now