it was kinda hard to do with 60 people there
#beta-ptr-spoilers
mossy meteor
dense plover
worthy kayak
goes from 335.8% to 448% in PvP
worthy kayak
basically a 100% spell power bonus in damage
dense plover
as you do the bell reinforcement kyrian assault quest, more areas gain a kyrian prescence
mossy meteor
tin man is awesome
worthy kayak
dense plover
also looks like doing an assault stops eye level from building
or slows it massively
mossy meteor
death grip pulls all 3 pets
and uhh
does something else
not sure
squeeze lowers your pet's speed
dense plover
tribal sand
ah now we get it not after killing in the raid
dense plover
so initial assaults give 203 ilvl gear
thats decent
i imagine it scales based off your ilvl or something
agile token
There are less words in the patch notes than there are in an ingredient list of peanut butter
what is this
dense plover
its the first build
did you legit think that was the full patch notes
they dont even go over the features
agile token
No but it's still a first big build
thick saddle
That's already been explained by Blizzard. While the travel from Oribos to the 4 zones act as "flightpaths", the actual distance between the zones is far greater. Think of the travel in the "In Between" sequence, as travel at Warp Speed (or Faster than Light if you prefer that). Allows us to quickly reach our destination.
Our poor mounts could never survive the journey. Hell they can't survive crossing deep oceans without becoming Fatigued.
I'm just happy we'll get flying in the 4 zones for 9.1.
dense plover
we are lucky we have ANY patch notes
huh
my haste on live is terrible
i didnt know that
tribal sand
the eye closed now
tropic trail
Any new tamable hunter pets yet? 👀
tropic trail
I'm sure there'll be a post on petopia when patch gets closer
dense plover
^
tropic trail
Ngl I'd be happy if they gave kodo back the stomping sfx that other scalehides like mushan and thunder lizards still have
I was so annoyed when they removed it
mossy meteor
special event?
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense plover
guess so?
worthy kayak
April 16th start raid test
BoyZ any PTR guild to start downing bosses?
Protectors of the Old ones first
dense plover
ptr guilds dont do raid bosses
the people who do mythic raiding and raid guides test raid bosses
grim canyon
Anyone figure out where to turn in Looting the Looters?
tribal sand
if u do the other quests there should be a fatescribe following you to hand it in
worthy kayak
the people who do mythic raiding and raid guides test raid bosses
What's that supposed to mean, you can't test the raid unless you have done mythic castle Nathria?
Even normal difficulty?
grim canyon
if u do the other quests there should be a fatescribe following you to hand it i...
I've done every other highlighted quest in Korthia (None of the dailies though), as well as the main campaign up to Good news, Everyone (After which, the campaign stopped)
dense plover
they announce which bosses and difficulties they are doing
tribal sand
I've done every other highlighted quest in Korthia (None of the dailies though),...
have u a quest on the map?
south of this area?
worthy kayak
So basically the 1% tests the raid
grim canyon
Oh the caretaker ran up to me after I went away from Keeper's Respute
And yes I did have a marker, but no npc was there
tribal sand
So basically the 1% tests the raid
everybody can; but its hard to find a group
dense plover
So basically the 1% tests the raid
well yeah
tribal sand
Oh the caretaker ran up to me after I went away from Keeper's Respute
And yes I...
there is a stone; he is hidden in the stone 
worthy kayak
This doesn't make sense, someone says you can, the other you can't
dense plover
they want people who are going to be able to parse the data and see which abilitiesd are too strong and what arent
YOU CAN TEST
but you arent going to
worthy kayak
YOU CAN TEST
And that's because...
dense plover
most people dont raid test
worthy kayak
It's locked ?
dense plover
because its hard
theres no LFR
and pretty much no one is testing the raids
because its buggy af
grim canyon
For me there wasn't a stone at the marker, that or I was blind
But either way, figured it out, Thank you 😄
worthy kayak
So you can test it's just "normal people" not wanting to do it
tribal sand
u have like no strats only the dungeon journal and come up with what u can try out
dense plover
and is aimed at the people who know what they are doing
dense plover
u have like no strats only the dungeon journal and come up with what u can try o...
this
the dungeon journal is barely functional
the people who test are the people who have every individual person doing a log and recording their game
its not testing "is it fun"
obtuse vine
It's locked ?
You can do raid testing, but it’s very hard to find a group on the ptr, almost impossible. Most testing therefore happens by raiding guilds
worthy kayak
So basically it's the same as any raid, you just need people to care about it, it's not locked by the game just people not wanting to do it
dense plover
its testing "does this mechanic work"
dense plover
So basically it's the same as any raid, you just need people to care about it, i...
technically?
but like
raid testing isnt aimed at groups who might wipe
worthy kayak
You can do raid testing, but it’s very hard to find a group on the ptr, almost i...
Maybe this is why someone here is asking to make a group of people willing to try?
dense plover
wrong place to ask
worthy kayak
raid testing isnt aimed at groups who might wipe
Not aimed to but possible
dense plover
none of us raid test
worthy kayak
Dungeon test?
worthy kayak
why do you WANT to raid test
To know if there are buggy mechanics
dense plover
ok
tribal sand
if u find that fissure on the ground; don't click it ur game will crash
worthy kayak
but how will you know
I'll put the game in situations that might occur during normal runs
dense plover
thats not the kind of bugs theyre looking for
its things like abilities not working
or damage numbers being wrong
worthy kayak
Lets say , taunt out of the reach LoS of a boss to see if it has a snap back mechanic or breaks the code
dense plover
yeah no
worthy kayak
or damage numbers being wrong
But that's passive
tribal sand
I'll put the game in situations that might occur during normal runs
u can be online when raidtesten is in oribos; most of the time there are a few groups searching for member there
dense plover
and then be able to report WHAT is wrong
worthy kayak
thats not a thing
That is a thing, like what happens when you kill one of the council before the dance
dense plover
u can be online when raidtesten is in oribos; most of the time there are a few g...
this is true - you need to be a decent raider
tribal sand
but these groups might not last the whole hour for the boss
dense plover
^also this
worthy kayak
and then be able to report WHAT is wrong
For my understanding you can always report at any time
worthy kayak
but these groups might not last the whole hour for the boss
True, but it can be attempted
obtuse vine
For my understanding you can always report at any time
You’re not gonna do it during a boss encounter tho are you, well unless you’re dead
tribal sand
True, but it can be attempted
yes, no one stops you from doing that; i will try to get some hands on bosses too; never did it before and just hope there will be some people from my guild doing it too
worthy kayak
You’re not gonna do it during a boss encounter tho are you, well unless you’re d...
Yes but we have memory, we can remember things
And record it
obtuse vine
Yeah exactly
worthy kayak
Like the first boss in necrotic wake
You can taunt him from a ledge
And have him running eternally
Basically ignoring all mechanics
worthy kayak
Or the endless breathe of Sindragosa glitch i found too
tribal sand
Or the endless breathe of Sindragosa glitch i found too
yeah just report this and it's all good 🙂
worthy kayak
So i repeat again, my first statement: who's willing to try the raid when it comes out ?
dense plover
again, you wont get responses here
most people arent available during the specific hour
worthy kayak
again, you wont get responses here
Not from you I know
grim canyon
Anyone else now stuck on Under the Illusion. The mob to kill isnt present even after an abandon
dense plover
its not like the raid is just available all day or something
mossy meteor
dense plover
its literally one specific hour on the 16th per boss
worthy kayak
its not like the raid is just available all day or something
It isn't ?
tropic trail
Oh is that guy talking about using the PTR as his sandbox again?
dense plover
It isn't ?
did you even read the post?
tribal sand
It isn't ?
no it's just one boss on a specific difficulty for 1 hour
dense plover
It isn't ?
worthy kayak
did you even read the post?
No, i should have. New to the PTR and so far, it's hella stupid
tropic trail
Like ffs, the PTR isn't a demo or a free trial
dense plover
this is how its ALWAYS worked
it isnt a demo, its aimed at experienced players
ESPECIALLY raid testing
they explicitly want people who know the most about raiding
tropic trail
And for people who are actually looking for bugs to report
dense plover
what was the last raid you ran and on what difficulty?
tribal sand
i can't login anymore -.-'
instant dc
worthy kayak
Like ffs, the PTR isn't a demo or a free trial
It's a place to test, in theory
Bc in practice is just elite people playing for a couple hours weekly
tropic trail
It's a place to test, in theory
Bc in practice is just elite people playing for ...
lmao, no
dense plover
seriously tho, what raid did you run and what difficulty?
tropic trail
It's not what YOU want it to be, that doesn't make it bad
dense plover
Didn't you say people who downed mythic raid? That's the definition of elite
in the case of raiding? yes, that is actually what they want
worthy kayak
seriously tho, what raid did you run and what difficulty?
I can't talk about it here for rules reasons
worthy kayak
essentially
No, rules prevent me from saying it
dense plover
if you arent playing on an official server that means you havent done nathria
which means you dont have any good feedback to give anyway
worthy kayak
if you arent playing on an official server that means you havent done nathria
I have but a higher difficulty instance, not here
dense plover
the 2 tests on the 16th are heroic for 2 brand new bosses
people who wipe on heroic for a week or two arent going to make ANY progress on these bosses
b/c tuning is going to be fucked
tribal sand
I have but a higher difficulty instance, not *here*
i don't understand what u are talking about tbh
robust girder
i have a question
robust girder
does our progress on the ptr reset when the actual update comes out?
tropic trail
Specifically to ensure that those mechanics and game systems are going to go live the way they're intended. It's not to "try them out"
worthy kayak
they played on a private server
Shhhhhhh
dense plover
oh no
im just going to shame the shit out of you for thinking this is an open field
robust girder
so the weeklys and whatnot are pointless currently
worthy kayak
You aren't allowed to mention that here
worthy kayak
im just going to shame the shit out of you for thinking this is an open field
Idc what your sad ass wants to say dude, but it's the rules
mossy meteor
tribal sand
so the weeklys and whatnot are pointless currently
no, this is for testing them so they are not bugged once they go live
dense plover
i can mention this - PTR is public testing, raid testing is aimed at the elite raiders because they CAN defeat an untuned heroic raid boss without a dungeon journal just through experience and skill
tropic trail
You aren't allowed to mention that here
And thinking that you have a valid source of background to draw from because of your experience on private servers is going to get you openly laughed at by more serious people
mossy meteor
dense plover
you almost definitely cant
if you could, you would be in a mythic raiding guild
plenty of other people try
worthy kayak
And thinking that you have a valid source of background to draw from because of ...
Bc it's well scripted, yes
mossy meteor
this guy is awesome
tribal sand
Idc what your sad ass wants to say dude, but it's the rules
which rules?
dense plover
and the only feedback they end up giving is "X mechanic was too hard"
which is fucking worthless for the devs
worthy kayak
which rules?
The ones about those places where you can play outside of the normal rules
tropic trail
Exactly. They want testers to point out the exact flaws in the mechanics
grim canyon
Oh definitly
tropic trail
@tribal sand He's saying he plays on a private server because he's a clown
worthy kayak
Exactly. They want testers to point out the exact flaws in the mechanics
And bugs, and flawed interactions
dense plover
they want feedback along the lines of "Mechanic X is supposed to deal 15000 damage but hit for 26000 damage"
or "this mechanic only hit 2 players at once when its supposed to hit 4"
grim canyon
exactly!
dense plover
or "this mechanic effected the tank, we dont think it should because it makes the raid wipe for reasons x y and z"
worthy kayak
or "this mechanic effected the tank, we dont think it should because it makes th...
And you need to down mythic to do that?
dense plover
you need to be able to, yes
tropic trail
Or "this ability reads as doing X, but instead Y is happening and here's the data"
worthy kayak
they want feedback along the lines of "Mechanic X is supposed to deal 15000 dama...
And yes, the so complex art of looking at your health going down ... So hard
worthy kayak
All of the shi you're saying is easy to report
tropic trail
@dense plover Wanna join me and just ignore this joker?
dense plover
they inflict debuffs, aoes, require you to move to various areas
worthy kayak
have you done ANY recent raids?
Yes, normal and heroic some
dense plover
and right now - none of that is in the dungeon guide
so the people running the heroic tests, have to be able to figure this out AS THEY ARE FIGHTING THE BOSSES
tribal sand
ok can log in again; raiderio fucked me up even though i had it deactivated on PTR
worthy kayak
and right now - none of that is in the dungeon guide
You can record your screen and report if some mechanic causes an impossible situation
dense plover
thats not the kind of problem
worthy kayak
Like a damage that's supposed to be avoided by doing X but X not working as intended
dense plover
go watch some of Big Dumb Guildz ptr raid testing videos
mossy meteor
hmm
tropic trail
You can record your screen and report if some mechanic causes an impossible situ...
That's not what you want though, you just want a free sandbox to play around in
dense plover
and how they give complex feedback on the fights
also they arent going to watch videos
they want it written
theyve gone on record about that
worthy kayak
That's not what you want though, you just want a free sandbox to play around in
Don't project your desires on me
dense plover
^
tropic trail
People like you always show up out of the woodwork during PTR times
dense plover
unrelated, ive reported at least 20 bugs just from the questlines, excluding missing voice or weird dialogue issues
tribal sand
how do you guys know dat
dense plover
they literally admitted to it
worthy kayak
Bruh, you're literally a private server player
Was, yes, bc unlike you, i don't pay for a game i don't want ? You morons cry about BFA like you were forced to play it
tropic trail
???
dense plover
if you dont want to playu
tropic trail
I liked BfA
dense plover
why the fuck are you here
bfa was a mess
it had no reason to do any of its content
because it was all azerite
tropic trail
Endgame was lacking, but the content within was pretty great
tribal sand
8.3 was fine after we had the vendor; and 8.2 was fine too; starting was shit
dense plover
8.3 was too late
if it had been fixed in 8.1 it couldve recovered
people are acting like shadowlands is dying like bfa but bfa had shit endgame at launch, people are just bored of shadowlands because the patch cycle has been a bit slow
the endgame is solid, weve just finished it
tropic trail
Which is understandable why it's slow, considering
dense plover
literal pandemic
tropic trail
Exactly
worthy kayak
Unfortunately the populace has the opposite view
tropic trail
Oh stfu
worthy kayak
Check the forums
tribal sand
i'm ok with a slower cycle still not finished mythic sire, because we had a long break at the start for christmas and new year
mossy meteor
unrelated, ive reported at least 20 bugs just from the questlines, excluding mis...
i haven't encountered much
tribal sand
Check the forums
people on forum are always crying
mossy meteor
i feel like missing voice lines are intentional
mossy meteor
tropic trail
???
mossy meteor
this area looks incredible
grim canyon
nice shot xD
tropic trail
Weren't you the NPC? What a horrible emotional intelligence, funny
This isn't even a complete statement. Get outta here and stop being butthurt because you were called out for being a private server player who acts like he's hot shit in retail
tropic trail
tribal sand
they seem tamable for me
worthy kayak
This isn't even a complete statement. Get outta here and stop being butthurt bec...
Ehh... No, i never said I was good, you were the ones saying raid testing was exclusive for elite players
worthy kayak
Bc apparently reporting something not working as intended is too hard in your mind
tropic trail
We're saying that your intentions aren't aligned with people who use PTR in the spirit of the intent of PTR
worthy kayak
You're just interpreting it that way due to insecurities
Isn't what exactly what you're doing right now? Someone trying to make this a personal problem?
tribal sand
Bc apparently reporting something not working as intended is too hard in your mi...
reporting is not the problem; but giving good feedback and playing a really hard boss is hard
dense plover
reporting is not the problem; but giving good feedback and playing a really hard...
THIS
obtuse vine
Was, yes, bc unlike you, i don't pay for a game i don't want ? You morons cry ab...
BfA in my opinion hasn’t been done to the standard it could have but I still liked it to some extent. People are not forced to play the game, they play it because they like it. Sure most people don’t like BfA, but they play it because they’re still a lot of other stuff to do apart from current content, and also it’s not ‘crying’ it’s giving feedback and critiquing the game so the devs can take lessons and improve it further
tropic trail
And also being aware of what content is currently supposed to be like in retail
dense plover
raid testing lasts between 45 min and 2 hours PER BOSS
and is scheduled during times when people who raid professionally are available
worthy kayak
reporting is not the problem; but giving good feedback and playing a really hard...
Of course, it's in the text, a "really hard boss"
dense plover
do others test? yes
tropic trail
And the goal isn't even to defeat the boss. For the most part, most raid testing takes place up until a wipe or the berserk timer
worthy kayak
raid testing lasts between 45 min and 2 hours PER BOSS
Very weird of them, very inefficient
dense plover
do they provide useful feedback? generally no
dense plover
Very weird of them, very inefficient
its efficient af
mossy meteor
lol
tribal sand
And the goal isn't even to defeat the boss. For the most part, most raid testing...
yeah cause most of the time, these bosses are really hard
dense plover
for two hours, pros who know what does and doesnt work run the boss multiple times
and report EVERYTHING about it
tropic trail
Most raid testers drag the hell out of boss fights so that they can gather as much data as they can
worthy kayak
Most raid testers drag the hell out of boss fights so that they can gather as mu...
What they could avoid doing if it lasted more than 2 hours
tropic trail
That's not the point
worthy kayak
and report EVERYTHING about it
You mean everything relevant* as you previously pointed out
tropic trail
The point isn't to defeat the boss
tribal sand
for the most part blizzard uses his internal raid testing team with god mode on to check if abilitys work properly; but for tuning they do the raid testing
tropic trail
It's to analyze the fight
worthy kayak
for the most part blizzard uses his internal raid testing team with god mode on ...
I know, I've had GM testing these other servers
grim canyon
idek how this happened, just logged in while on a mount and poof falling
tribal sand
don't forget to report the low spawnrate for these mobs; impossible with 4 or 5 other players doing it as well
dense plover
theres a couple like that
grim canyon
Also would this be an ElvUI SAL issue or a FrameXML Issue?
worthy kayak
for the most part blizzard uses his internal raid testing team with god mode on ...
But if soz they should let the average player try it, as those are the ones that will find the content difficult or not. What are excellent played gonna, intentionally play bad to see the limits of how low can it go?
dense plover
like the ember shard guys
faint plaza
have we got a garrosh model yet?
mossy meteor
don't forget to report the low spawnrate for these mobs; impossible with 4 or 5 ...
it's not that bad
grim canyon
Tracking down the bugs in my addon set for a bit
dense plover
But if soz they should let the average player try it, as those are the ones that...
thats not at all what theyre testing tho
mossy meteor
i forgot to report
dense plover
are you even reading what we are writing
tribal sand
it's not that bad
took me 20 minutes for this litte zone
dense plover
this is about number tuning
dense plover
mythic raiders have experience
mossy meteor
i didnt have issues
worthy kayak
thats not at all what theyre testing tho
What they should*
tropic trail
are you even reading what we are writing
He thinks he's justified playing on a private server and joining the conversation. ofc he's not gonna get it
dense plover
this is how theyve tested raids for MANY expacs
tribal sand
have we got a garrosh model yet?
as far as i heard of not; but wowhead said something about garrosh earlier so maybe they put out a post for this
dense plover
since at least mop
worthy kayak
you are wrong
Maybe that explains why CN got nerf after nerf after nerf
dense plover
it works perfectly
faint plaza
ok thank you
worthy kayak
It was perfectly tested, clearly
dense plover
Maybe that explains why CN got nerf after nerf after nerf
it only got mythic nerfs until over a month after launch
after a month they always nerf bosses
grim canyon
OH WAIT
dense plover
to allow guilds who arent pushing to do the content
dense plover
you can go look at previous hotfixes
tribal sand
Maybe that explains why CN got nerf after nerf after nerf
that's the way they do it; the best kill it and they nerf it for the lower player and repeat that process till the targeted amount (elitist jerks, ions guild) killed them
dense plover
^
tropic trail
peach, come on dude, you're playing chess with a pigeon
worthy kayak
it only got mythic nerfs until over a month after launch
They nerfed the bosses to the absolute ground , not so long ago they nerfed sludge again in lower difficulties
grim canyon
My camera is up in the air, not my body rofl
dense plover
They nerfed the bosses to the absolute ground , not so long ago they nerfed slud...
yeah thats how they do ALL raids
its been the case since at least warlords for that
worthy kayak
yeah thats how they do ALL raids
And you think that's good?
Now this is a subjective question
worthy kayak
None of us are devs but you, you think that's good?
grim canyon
What even is this bug xD
dense plover
i think if it was easy for people actually pushing raids, you would lose player engagement ¯_(ツ)_/¯
so yeah
i do think its good
tropic trail
Dude just block him
worthy kayak
Dude just block him
Such a nice individual
dense plover
i think if it was hard for the worst players, or even average (which is the final balance intention with heroic and normal) the people who push normal and heroic at launch would find both difficulties boring af
obtuse vine
What even is this bug xD
Are you in a tower or... what is that POV? Hah
grim canyon
i think if it was easy for people actually pushing raids, you would lose player ...
Agree personally, it begins to lose my attention if an area seems too easy. I like the challenge alot xD
dense plover
you cant satisfy all players at launch
grim canyon
Are you in a tower or... what is that POV? Hah
I logged in and my camera was way in the sky, but my character was on the ground
dense plover
but realistically, those middle of the road players/guilds arent raiding at launch
obtuse vine
Oh right, I see
dense plover
they raid a month after launch when they can schedule without pressure, have completed story stuff, and have spent a month getting gear from dungeons and WQs
obtuse vine
I logged in and my camera was way in the sky, but my character was on the ground
Yeah I saw that happened to a lot of people today
mossy meteor
this needs a range increase
dense plover
it really does
grim canyon
indeed
dense plover
i reported it
mossy meteor
yep same
dense plover
i also said that it sometimes said out of range when it showed as in range
because it does that too
obtuse vine
Do you guys think the rest of the covenant campaign will be available on the ptr or will they keep it locked until release?
tropic trail
Range issues all over the dang place
mossy meteor
some of the chapters are live now
i assume the entire campaign is live on this build
tribal sand
Do you guys think the rest of the covenant campaign will be available on the ptr...
probably with more rep of the new faction; and i saw some of them as renown
not sure if this is just a placeholder
silent urchin
No more pet cap? kinda low key but amazing change there
worthy kayak
not sure if this is just a placeholder
You have 41 renown... I didn't as Kyrian
obtuse vine
not sure if this is just a placeholder
Yeah I saw that too, might be the case on retail, but I doubt they’ll keep it locked with renown on the ptr
worthy kayak
Night Fae again, getting things earlier
tribal sand
You have 41 renown... I didn't as Kyrian
i have only 40
tropic trail
No more pet cap? kinda low key but amazing change there
Literally has been the only thing keeping my collection numbers down
worthy kayak
i have only 40
I mean lv41 reward, i didn't have any as Kyrian
obtuse vine
It’s the first build, it’ll get added probably over the course of the ptr
edgy ivy
Has anyone made sense of where Sylvanas' encounter ends? Phases 1/2 take place atop Torghast, she starts pulling the tower apart, then we follow the Jailer into the sky as he "ascends," whatever that means. Phase 3 is then described as a "chamber" with platforms and beams
mossy meteor
why do all of these mobs have such low hp
worthy kayak
:
silent urchin
41 is a soulbind row for Night fae, and the soulbinds are all slightly different between covenants. It might be an oversight
worthy kayak
Y
tribal sand
anyone finished this quest yet? can't get him out of the mind control
mossy meteor
dont think im there yet
worthy kayak
41 is a soulbind row for Night fae, and the soulbinds are all slightly different...
Night fae had the upper hand in 9.0 , they have that again for 9.1m what's with this bias ?
obtuse vine
What bias are you referring to? Like covenant abilities balancing or
worthy kayak
What bias are you referring to? Like covenant abilities balancing or
I mean NF getting their soulbinds first
Like for no reason, they had their soulbinds open way before Venthyr
tribal sand
yeah but who really cares about the one week you are "behind" as a kyrian for example
the week after all are even again
worthy kayak
Only at the tale end things balanced out, so endgame yes it's not different but for the renown collecting weeks it is a disadvantage
worthy kayak
yeah but who really cares about the one week you are "behind" as a kyrian for ex...
Unless NF gets another one. I remember one NF soulbind having all their sockets very early, and those are the biggest post boosts
obtuse vine
It’s hard to tell at the moment, I hope they’ll keep it universal and similar for all covenants but it’s too early to tell, it’s just the first build after all
worthy kayak
Balance aside z it's just weird like, what's the reason for having it different? It literally adds nothing but makes one faction stronger for a week
crimson jasper
aaand you are a world first raider that desperately needed those NF "advantages" l assume? ;p
worthy kayak
aaand you are a world first raider that desperately needed those NF "advantages"...
Furry 🥶
tribal sand
aaand you are a world first raider that desperately needed those NF "advantages"...
pls stop that elitist talk xD
crimson jasper
<@&299347348847329281>
worthy kayak
it really doesn't matter ya know
It does when you throw into the mix that NF is already the best covenant damage wise
crimson jasper
and it's not elitist talk, it literally matters none
west relic
👀
worthy kayak
Makes the "leveling" part sad. Like having bear tanks getting their actual tanking by level 21 when leveling while DH gets it lv10
crimson jasper
buut gonna be insta block for you anyways Mr "furry"
tribal sand
and it's not elitist talk, it literally matters none
it was a joke cause we had a long disscussion with imayhealyou
that what the xD was for
crimson jasper
ahhh l see Bara^^
west relic
What’s the point you have about the “furry” comment, @worthy kayak?
worthy kayak
What’s the point you have about the “furry” comment, <@381370230922018817>?
The profile pic
west relic
We don’t tolerate discrimination of anyone here. Period.
crimson jasper
well l safe myself the headache, already blocked him
tropic trail
What’s the point you have about the “furry” comment, <@381370230922018817>?
He's already admitted to being a private server player, he's just disrupting the PTR discussion
I had to block him too
tribal sand
ah i see that profil pic looks great; do you know yuna maybe?
worthy kayak
We don’t tolerate discrimination of anyone here. Period.
Funny you appear just now , and ignore when the guy here called me a clown
And said stfu and fowl mouthed expressions
west relic
Someone’s else’s actions do not dictate your own.
worthy kayak
But God forbid i say furry and nothing else
west relic
Don’t sit here and try to avoid the fact that you’re acting like an ass.
worthy kayak
Someone’s else’s actions do not dictate your own.
But the law is supposed to be fair and equal
west relic
There’s no need to say it. That’s the whole point.
This isn’t law. It’s a discord server.
You need a reality check.
dense plover
theyve been responding like this to EVERYTHING
worthy kayak
Don’t sit here and try to avoid the fact that you’re acting like an ass.
Ignoring the behavior above and pointing mine as bad?
wise peakBOT
imayhealyou#7676 was muted | Troll
tropic trail
YES
dense plover
thank you
grim canyon
Finally
tropic trail
Proud of you Thulm
tribal sand
😄
mossy meteor
relief
obtuse vine
Clap
crimson jasper
oh thanks Thulm
grim canyon
👏 👏
mossy meteor
in other news
tropic trail
🙏
tribal sand
sry for interrupting but it seems this is the end for questing; not completable some phasing problem i think
tropic trail
Anyone else dig through dialog like a madman for the sole purpose of finding spelling errors and stuff in PTR?
crimson jasper
sorry to have bothered you with and and while my remark about NF "advantage" was a tad sassy l dont think the reply was fitting lol
tropic trail
So I have a quick question about ptr, is it true you need more renown to unlock the new story chapters?
dense plover
found it guys, i can break it and release it right now
crimson jasper
should be the case aye
tropic trail
So I have a quick question about ptr, is it true you need more renown to unlock ...
Well considering that's what's intended
crimson jasper
oh lol
dense plover
tropic trail
If it isn't I'd bug report 
dense plover
tropic trail
Ahh, time to level up some renown and bug report a tiny bit
tribal sand
sorry to have bothered you with and and while my remark about NF "advantage" was...
was completely fine; he was a bit special
crimson jasper
Also good to see you peach
crimson jasper
was completely fine; he was a bit special
heh, yea l didnt assume anything else, easy to judge someone on such a reaction lol
obtuse vine
Has anyone found any test npcs which give you renown or anima? Or are they disabled atm
dense plover
Has anyone found any test npcs which give you renown or anima? Or are they disab...
the anima one is in your sanctum
renown might also be on them
grim canyon
the anima one is in your sanctum
there's an anima one in oribos
Same npc as honor as well
obtuse vine
renown might also be on them
Hm, will check thanks!
grim canyon
Renown however i havent seen an npc for
That or im blind to what option to click for that
obtuse vine
There was one during the beta I think so I just assumed it would stick around
tribal sand
Has anyone found any test npcs which give you renown or anima? Or are they disab...
anima, honor and souls yes; but no renown so far
he was standing in my covenant hall
mossy meteor
the fight took a while
obtuse vine
anima, honor and souls yes; but no renown so far
he was standing in my covenant ...
I see, thanks
mossy meteor
either the npcs are supposed to help but they weren't
but i got to like, idk
and then bam
it's over
tribal sand
huh, yeah you can get rid of the eye nearly asap
yes this was a big bonus; so u can do the assaults very easy
dense plover
mossy meteor
lol
tribal sand
I see, thanks
there are also the runecarvertauren in oribos
u even get the new covenant spicific legendary from him
tribal sand
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825565920855588934/831688638228201532/unk...
where did u find that?
mossy meteor
it's 3:30am
dense plover
where did u find that?
probably at the hub in korthia
tribal sand
there are new lockboxes
only 55 gold and one ilvl 160 green BoE in it
dense plover
once youve done certain quests
arctic pendant
where did u find that?
Did some quest at the bottom of korthia
dense plover
arctic pendant
like with the name interrogating or whatever its called
tribal sand
like with the name interrogating or whatever its called
thx
silent urchin
wait is that just stygia again?
arctic pendant
yeah
silent urchin
huh, do you still lose 20% on death?
arctic pendant
which makes think ahh shit here we ago again
dense plover
each covenant has an area
currency is probably temporary
will likely be something else
especially with the mounts being 5k, thats not a lot for stygia
arctic pendant
yeah its like the first build so I wouldn't expect it to be that way
mossy meteor
with no eye
mossy meteor
i got a rep token from that
dense plover
dont worry, im gonna report the ilvl being bad
silent urchin
I think it's basically the WQ reward pool
dense plover
it should be 203 like the other korthia stuff
silent urchin
I assume the ilvl will go up along with WQ ilvl covenant rewards
dense plover
it should be slightly higher tho
silent urchin
presumably should get to about 220 by renown 80
silent urchin
Probably. Definitely underwhelming at the start
I don't think the first boost was for a couple weeks
crimson jasper
oh, that'll come in handy for dw users, getting 2wep choices rather quickly
mossy meteor
i'm assuming that by renown 80
crimson jasper
oh
uncut vault
A ruthless tormenter of the smallest souls. Some say he was known in life as "Thermaplugg."
crimson jasper
oh lol
grim canyon
Adorable xD
crimson jasper
l wonder what he plugged
grim canyon
I have a few guesses ... 😏
crimson jasper
:3c
tropic trail
l wonder what he plugged
He's a returning character
crimson jasper
oh?
tropic trail
Or rather a reference to Gnome Stalin
crimson jasper
pffft, ok that's neat
uncut vault
Thermaplugg was the gnome that irradiated gnomeregan and killed 80% of their population
final boss of the dungeon
grim canyon
Thermaplugg was the gnome that irradiated gnomeregan and killed 80% of their pop...
Decrease that by 30% and youd have a thanos reference instead
crimson jasper
ohhh damn, l really gotta pay more attention to detail again
tropic trail
Yeah. He's pretty much one of the worst people in gnomish history
crimson jasper
ain't that every gnome? xd
uncut vault
he was so evil that he was fundamentally declared to not be a gnome
because he went against everything that a gnome naturally is
tropic trail
ain't that every gnome? xd
This one convinced everyone that the best solution to save their homeland from the troggs was to irradiate them with everyone safe in their homes, but then filtered all of the radiation into the homes as well
crimson jasper
Also, they made a gnome a battle pet
snorts
tropic trail
There are several already
crimson jasper
and that didn't go as planned ouch
tropic trail
No, for him it did
crimson jasper
oh are there?
tropic trail
It wasn't an accident. It was intentional
crimson jasper
oh welp one way to be on the list of unpopular people
kinda neat they bring back chars like that with some refs in SL
tropic trail
They do it all the time with every expansion, more or less
This one just makes it easier to reference dead ones
foggy abyss
I hated how that set looked at first, looked a bit too "weird / cartoonish" to me, but god does it fits troll
crimson jasper
think we get to fly there at some point?
dense plover
this lore text is interesting
crimson jasper
the calamity?
thick saddle
Using dressing room, my probable look with the new covenant sets... Missing shoulders though.
mossy meteor
definitely built for being easier to navigate with flying
i'm not sure if we'll have flying there
foggy abyss
The zone reminds me of Nazjatar
I don't like it
If we do get flying though it might be better
foggy abyss
Nazjatar was awfully vertical
mossy meteor
yeah this isn't it
mossy meteor
doesn't mean it's like nazjatar
i mean you can go there and checke it
but it has like cliffs on the edges and that's about it
dense plover
there was a flayed wing just there
figured out what the vault of secrets is
its a place
crimson jasper
that oribos lookin thing is interesting, guess we'll get to see where all that stuff comes from sooner than later
dense plover
anyone want to do me a favor
visit the goldshire inn
and see if it is different
they added an HD variant of it
i want to know if its implemented
crimson jasper
at work or l would
mossy meteor
I'm in bed atm
grim canyon
I can do that real quick, gimme a few minutes
mossy meteor
Lol
crimson jasper
get me a souvenir CDA
grim canyon
xD
grim canyon
I also patched up some of the issues in ElvUI, so neither are throwing bugs anymore
Both were mostly a rename and sanity checking the availability of variables
dense plover
but its worth checking
btw there are other boar models updated
so its definitely the replacement
uncut vault
@dense plover what did Sylvanas say when you attacked her in the ardenweald quest?
dense plover
ill hop back to ogrimmar and see if its implemented
grim canyon
Loading in atm, Ill be over in goldshire in a few
dense plover
<@!117691857911152645> what did Sylvanas say when you attacked her in the ardenw...
something about being a pawn for the winter queen
its not covenant specific
uncut vault
were you a loyalist?
uncut vault
my character was, I got this
dense plover
SICK
crimson jasper
oh
dense plover
they remember
mossy meteor
Oh damn
crimson jasper
that's great
uncut vault
first time through I didnt attack at all
grim canyon
Nice attention to detail
uncut vault
and I got this
grim canyon
Oh I immediatly tried to attack
dense plover
same
grim canyon
So about goldshire...
Im gonna have to rain check
My camera is even higher this time
dense plover
this might be how you get to the dungeon eventually
grim canyon
Yea, and it's not even my character up this high...It's my camera 😄
pulsar minnow
Sorry to ask if this has been answered already, but have people already unlocked flying in 9.1 ptr? and do we know when
mossy meteor
Not yet
pulsar minnow
gotcha
dense plover
yep, full replacement
grim canyon
Just disable addons then
It isn't even addons afaik, it happened even without them
dense plover
theres probably a boss or two that isnt replaced so hunters can get the old model still
grim canyon
It only happens sometimes though, not everytime
crimson jasper
that's a fancy boar
dense plover
anyone know of any dungeons or raids with a pig boss?>
crimson jasper
that one in Barrens
pulsar minnow
Maybe one of the razorfen dungeons
crimson jasper
yea that
pulsar minnow
is it just me or has there been a significant graphical jump from 9.0 to 9.1? Like all the models look so much more crisp like the Thrall and Boar models for instance
grim canyon
Here's the inn 😄
dense plover
giraffes and zhevras are not updated
dense plover
Here's the inn 😄
guess they havent updated it then
grim canyon
is it just me or has there been a significant graphical jump from 9.0 to 9.1? Li...
Some models have indeed been updated, such as Sylvannas and Thrall
pulsar minnow
I know. I'm just saying like in terms of texture resolution and whatnot, it looks so much better
grim canyon
Also if anyone has an addon that's broken between 9.0.5 and 9.1, I got spare time tomorrow to try and tinker at it (Would like the experience mainly in working with other addons)
crimson jasper
they do a great job imo, game looks good for its style
grim canyon
Indeed it does 😄 Everything's looking super nice 😄
dense plover
im done for the night
crimson jasper
have a good night peach^^
edgy ivy
new hula hoop mount just dropped
crimson jasper
xD
mortal drift
what’s with the boar pictures?
unborn glacier
Its the new boar model
grim canyon
Mmm, eventtrace got a much needed facelift
uncut vault
tazavesh is in the open world, that neat
grim canyon
Time to goblin glide to it 😄
If someone can glide from ardenweld to the maw and have plenty of height left, then we sure as hell can get there easily
dense plover
that might explain the barge
the npc in oribos
it might be an open world area AND instanced
like karazhan
pulsar minnow
we might use a waygate to get to it, and then enter the dungeon portal into it when we arrive
that would leave 2 more waygates for 9.2 and 9.3 which works imo
dense plover
no
theres a barge
theres a temp npc called barge npc
theres even a model for the boat
grim canyon
Who needs a boat when you have goblin gliders xD
dense plover
probably has a kill zone near it or before it
calm plank
oo that's a cool looking barge
plain rivet
crisp steeple
tropic trail
There is so mich cool stuff I’m so exited!
And they didn’t nerf MM (at least not now lol xD)
tropic trail
Odyn’s got a part to play in this patch.
We knew he'd pop up eventually, especially after Mueh'zala makes that remark in De Other Side about taking Odyn's eye
strange falcon
Nah
bitter plaza
wait so, the 9.1 is there? Sorry for these stupid questions but, is ptr just for anyone to play n how do I play lol
cunning fossil
Download it off the site
bitter plaza
do I need game time for it
bitter plaza
hmm, I'll check it out once I get home. Can't wait to see what's going on
lofty vault
was it datamined what raid tier drops what recolor?
strange falcon
No
tribal sand
back online again; what did i miss?
tribal sand
yeah i got the same bug now -.-'
austere gazelle
remove ur addons
I got the same bug it's caused by an addon, deactivate them all on the ptr
polar furnace
decided to walk up the chains from korthia and dear god its anxiety inducing, I also decided to jump off to see what happens
but hey this is was the sky box looks like when you pass torghast walking up the chain
i dont recommend walking up the chain tho
its disappointing where it ends
and quite sudden
tribal sand
remove ur addons
i just relogged and it was normal again
austere gazelle
What up with the Ice wall? mage get a new spell? or is it a pvp thing?
tribal sand
not sure what u mean, but fire got a new fire ring pvp talent; maybe frost got one as well
yes pvp talent
earnest lichen
Azodius slain part is bugged y?
mossy meteor
yeah
random kayak
looks like the jaina wall
oh cool, the Mei wall has come to WoW XD LOL
mossy meteor
okay so
i wanted to see what happens if you die in korthia
and since i'm overgeared, i decided the best way to die is to yeet myself
so i did it at this area
and i respawned at the southern area
which is inaccessible while dead
tribal sand
tribal sand
Azodius slain part is bugged y?
it was yesterday but it did it a few hours ago
feral abyss
||The Sylvanas|| fight sounds interesting based on its description
||Fighting on the top of Torghast, the tower collapsing while you fight, chasing the Jailer with Thrall and Jaina while Sylvanas and the mawsworm try to kill you and a finale in the In-between||
Truly amazing
tribal sand
Azodius slain part is bugged y?
maybe the logout did the work; i accepted the quest without doing anything so logout after accepting and login and try the quest again
tribal sand
||Fighting on the top of Torghast, the tower collapsing while you fight, chasing...
||sound really fun; especially jaina and thrall fighting together||
earnest lichen
Quest still bugged will try abandoning and relog now
feral abyss
I have a feeling that lfr ||Tarragrue|| has potential to be similar to be like lfr N'zoth
tribal sand
I have a feeling that lfr ||Tarragrue|| has potential to be similar to be like l...
not sure what u mean with that?
feral abyss
Imagine a random dps ||killing your healer|| with ||the chain||
tribal sand
a like sludgefist 😄
feral abyss
Yeah
tribal sand
sludge has no chains on lfr
really? O.o
mossy meteor
yea
tribal sand
need a warlock port? not that i am a warlock or anything
earnest lichen
would be nice tbh, kinda don't wanna redo questing. 😄
mossy meteor
does anyone know where the anima/souls npcs are in oribos
i found the runecarver and legendary guys
tribal sand
as nightfae there is one in the covenant hall
mossy meteor
i looked all over on my kyrian but couldnt find
tribal sand
not sure if everybody got them; cause nightfae got no conduit vendor; necrolords do have them
solar temple
I'm pretty sure everyone got a conduit vendor lol
Blizzard wouldn't make something like that covenant exclusive
tribal sand
Blizzard wouldn't make something like that covenant exclusive
i was more thinking of them forgetting to put them in
cause on the position, where there was the conduit vendor on beta is nothing
solar temple
i was more thinking of them forgetting to put them in
cause on the position, whe...
Things change from beta. Look around the area
vestal wing
they might just not have finsihed these
if there is nothing to test there is nothing to test...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tribal sand
Things change from beta. Look around the area
i did; but nothing to be found
it's not a bid deal either cause i got all conduits at 226
mossy meteor
yeah i can't see any vendors
guess they removed the anima vendor
@tribal sand how did you finish the illusion quest
I tried logging out etc but nothing worked for me
tribal sand
<@217374287890350081> how did you finish the illusion quest
i tried it yesterday like 5 to 10 times an nothing worked; so i abandoned it for the last time and accepted it then logged out and got some sleep; after waking up i logged in and the quest worked
so i asumed it was the logout
anyone already knows where to get these recipes?
mossy meteor
wormhole is updated
vestal wing
wormhole is updated
mossy meteor
is this new
tribal sand
is this new
yes from 9.1
mossy meteor
these two items are new i think
from venari
they don't do anything atm
dailies/weeklies have this rep token
mossy meteor
just noticed that the archon uses her new model
in the new questline
draka represents necrolords
austere gazelle
draka represents necrolords
She'll quickly step down from this piedestal as the Primus will return to his glorious throne 🙏
austere gazelle
they might just not have finsihed these
Yeah, I remember in Legion beta when the Suramar quests were not finished and Lyle'th was stuck beneath a waterfall instead of being miles away in Suramar. We were way ahead of the implemented, and finished quests
terse patrol
It’s kinda fucked that Saurfang is a trinket.
mossy meteor
not sure if it's new but callings that expire in <30 minutes have this icon
never noticed it before because eu reset is early in the morning
and i don't play in that time
so it's true
he got the sigil from ardenweald
dense plover
You’re sorta late btw. I posted a lot of the story stuff yesterday
mossy meteor
yeah i'm going for a 2nd run now
the illusion quest bugged out on my main
so i'm doing a more detailed look at things
earnest lichen
Any info about what is Vault of Secrets?
mossy meteor
¯_(ツ)_/¯
earnest lichen
Daily quest rewarding this today
mossy meteor
I think those progenians are the first ones
earnest lichen
Could be
mossy meteor
So I'm wondering
If torghast gets destroyed (intentionally)
Where will we fight the jailer then
My theory is that he'll open the 'door' to another realm, possibly azeroth even
earnest lichen
Imo either Azeroth or Oribos-esque realm
mossy meteor
Since they said there will be a massive skybox/environment change after 9.1 raid
Especially given the sylvanas fight
earnest lichen
Do we have idea where raid entrance is?
mossy meteor
Torghast, probably
But you can't enter the tower itself atm, and runecaver has a special test npc that teleports you there
earnest lichen
Still no luck with Under the Illusion quest, ehh
mossy meteor
I'm sure they're fixing it
And I'm guessing a new, smaller, build might come out tonight with some fixes
earnest lichen
Either today or tomorrow
dense plover
The vault of secrets is the big broken Oribos type building in korthia
Idk how it is related to upgrades and the other stuff
It is probably tied to the questline and also probably not implemented yet
I’m more curious about the stolen anima caches and how that works
If it’s another source of anima, that’s great
But someone needs to get enough deaths advance rep to buy the item to unlock the mechanic
tribal sand
did all the dailys yesterday, will do them again after my Raid, so i try to farm the rep
void lynx
tulip sun
Click bait title e.e
pulsar minnow
Where will we fight the jailer then
The Sepulcher I think. If the Jailer's plans have to do with the First Ones, he's likely seeking out the First One's place of power in the Shadowlands. Something that's not Korthia or Oribos, which are just engines in reality.
mossy meteor
cunning fossil
Lmao
sleek cloud
me on ptr right now
nothing new if you think about it
90% of classes have yet to get their changes so does mine
strange falcon
i mean,most people dont go on ptr for the class changes
sleek cloud
you'd be suprised actually, most players go there to find exploits and bugs to use once the patch goes live
strange falcon
my point was that most ppl go on the ptr to actually you know,test the content
not for class changes,then logout
sleek cloud
oh ok i get what you mean now, of course yea testing is the main point of ptr but testing implies to have gameplay changes and only few specializations and classes got access to those new features. The conduits additions are so minor theres not much to say about them and even tho they would be bugged on launch they wouldn't be accessible until a month into the patch
so for now im waiting to have some interesting game design to change my gameplay
pulsar minnow
Agreed. I understand this is only the first week of PTR, but Korthia just doesn't feel fun. It doesn't stand out at all
its also pathetically small for this "City of Secrets"
cunning fossil
90% of classes have yet to get their changes so does mine
90%? Bruh it's more like 50%. There's plenty of new, if buggy, stuff
sleek cloud
only mages have gotten all their updates gameplay wise, the new zone is not finished, the raid isn't visible, the new dungeon either.
pvp gear isn't even programmed yet
cunning fossil
I was more so talking about the Class stuff.
sleek cloud
90%? Bruh it's more like 50%. There's plenty of new, if buggy, stuff
idk there are too many holes everywhere, wheres the legendary transmog too
cunning fossil
5 classes at least got baseline changes
sleek cloud
like they promised we would unlock legendary mog in 9.1
tropic trail
That's why you're testing what is there. Ofc you're not going to test stuff that isn't implemented yet
cunning fossil
We can't expect it all no one big swoop
sleek cloud
they got some specs
cunning fossil
Especially not in the very first patch
tropic trail
You're supposed to test what's there, not speculate about what isn't
sleek cloud
i didn't check it out all
sleek cloud
but druid only has boomies from what i've seen
sleek cloud
true i reported convoke legendary
sleek cloud
that shit is busted who the fuck even tough it was a good idea
tropic trail
If it's not on it, then you're not gonna test it
cunning fossil
Isn't it 2?
sleek cloud
icewall guardian
cunning fossil
Since the channel is usually 4 sec
sleek cloud
in the corner of the arena
10 sec stuck in the corner of the map
nothing you can do
LOL
cunning fossil
Well you can break it
sleek cloud
seems like that combos well
frost dk frost mage prot paladin
frost dk pulls everyone in the corner
cunning fossil
Sounds solid
sleek cloud
mage walls
guardian on the wall
chillstreak on everyone
aoe cleave
nothing you can do
but i wonder if the wall ill be like a ring of peace
cunning fossil
Shadowrift for Warlocks though
sleek cloud
will it knock back everyone