beta-ptr-spoilers

[pulsar minnow]

This quest

[final lily]

What barbershop is safe?

[tropic trail]

@final lily only one I’ve been to is one in storm wind

I keep getting disconnected

:(

[bold granite]

Wait so 9.0.1 ptr is up? Oh god I’ve missed so much

[ebon vortex]

It's psychotic.

[quasi magnet]

"World server is down" a bit fustrating

[opal storm]

Is Wrathion backpack bigger on ptr or is it just me?

I think it's smaller on retail

[dense plover]

Might be scaled differently on BEs. They made some tweaks to BE scaling like they do every patch

[opal storm]

Didn't try on other races. hmm

Might actually use it in SL then

That small something we have in retail looked wierd

[sullen dawn]

Its the character scaling not the backpack itself

[ancient jasper]

Whelp that's 6 characters now that have become completely unplayable due to a crash or disconnect.

[hollow orchid]

Has anyone been able to start a toon in exile's reach?

[frozen stratus]

yeah I did one or two

[hollow orchid]

it just now let me create a character and attempting to load in

[pulsar minnow]

I did both sides of Exile’s Reach

Be warned though, it breaks once you reach Kul Tiras

[violet karma]

chaos

[plain vigil]

And they probably wonder why they don't have beta access 💀

[violet karma]

ok

[frozen stratus]

nothing to see here

move along

kek

[violet karma]

lol

[night swift]

this event really feels like its gonna be a "you thought you wanted it, but you really didnt"

[violet karma]

hopeuflly like, there is enough people to try to keep this under control on live.

1 frame per second lets go

[lone marten]

i mean, its mega bugged rn

npc gets killed by zombo, npc becomes zombo, npc respawns, gets killed by zombo(who was previously npc), becomes zombo... etc

[autumn stirrup]

excuse this stupid question but having a hard time finding out, does the pre patch include the lvl squish/lvl changes?

[pulsar minnow]

I think a good way to fix this would to make it so you can’t turn NPCs into zombies

And Phantasm, yes.

It’s in.

[autumn stirrup]

thank you!

[pulsar minnow]

That being said it seems a bit off currently

[autumn stirrup]

that got me excited

as in to fast or to slow?

[pulsar minnow]

Oh, leveling is basically impossible right now

[autumn stirrup]

guess they havent done any tuning yet

[pulsar minnow]

But the ilevel squish is a bit off

[ebon vortex]

Well a lot about the PTR is currently fucked.

[broken kraken]

if theyre disabling legion legendaries are we safe to throw them out?

[pulsar minnow]

Probably lol

I’ve been holding on to them just for fun

[broken kraken]

i never collected them all anyway at least for all classes 🙈

[ebon vortex]

Aren't Legion legendaries already disabled?

[broken kraken]

only after 115

[ebon vortex]

Like, haven't they been disabled since the start of BFA?

Oh.

Well we can still collect them for mogs I'd hope. They're snazzy.

Also, every expac scaling to 50 is gonna be weird. For the entire duration of prepatch, technically all raids will be current content in terms of difficulty.

Since they'll all be the maximum level.

[broken kraken]

yean shits weird and gonna be a lag fest

and people asking stupid questions on trade chat for days

[ebon vortex]

Also, typically 10 levels isn't enough to solo an old raid.

But I wonder, with each level being more impactful now

Will a level 60 player be able to solo a level 50 mythic?

If not, farming old transmogs is gonna be goddamn impossible.

and if so, you can farm BFA transmogs earlier than you usually could.

[broken kraken]

id think icecrown would be on 40s since it 80 currently

[ebon vortex]

Nope. All expacs will scale 10-50.

That's the point.

Legacy content scales with you so you can choose how to level.

[broken kraken]

why would that effect raids tho

[ebon vortex]

Since they're part of said content?

if the expac scales to 50 why would a raid at the end of the expac not be 50

From what I've read I assume all legacy content will scale up to level 50

Also, level 80 on Live scales to 30 on Shadowlands.

So if it does scale like that, Icecrown will become level 30. But I don't think that's how it works.

[frozen stratus]

I love the clip of nobbel trying to kill jaina as a zombie

[cunning fossil]

Cab U destroy lego items yet?

[grizzled spade]

@autumn stirrup Levelling is impossible because zombies are running around killing everyone and servers being super unstable. Not because of the scaling.

[sonic flame]

Also, every expac scaling to 50 is gonna be weird. For the entire duration of prepatch, technically all raids will be current content in terms of difficulty.
@ebon vortex

raids aren't scaling up, only dungeons are

and they will only scale to 50 if you pick the chromie xpac timeline which will probably autodisable itself at 50 anyways

[ebon vortex]

That's weird.

[sonic flame]

I know

having mobs out of icc being level 50 but inside icc being level 30 is just lul

but that is how they operate

if you think about it, it's already happening in retail right now

cata zones scale up to 90, but the raids scale to 85

so you can actually have mobs at 90 out of instance but 85 inside the instance

[tiny stream]

Every expac end level is half of what they would be.

For example Eastern Kingdoms is 30

[grizzled spade]

Breaking news, zombies are now scaling with level. They are still OP, but at least at a reasonable character level.

[frozen stratus]

so wait level 50 zombies are more powerful than level 1 zombies

[elfin walrus]

Aww beans

I was gonna get pictures of my angry night elf, but DH tattoos are busted

[grizzled spade]

If you are at low level character, you see them as level 10 zombies

[obtuse vine]

Every expac end level is half of what they would be.
@tiny stream not quite, Basically during chromie time everything scales up to 50. Out of chromie time EK and Kalimdor scales up to 25, BC and Wrath 30, Cata zones 35, MoP and WoD 40 I think, Legion 45 and BfA 50

[tiny stream]

Vanilla scaled to 30

[obtuse vine]

Is it? They have changed it then

Interesting

[elfin walrus]

Seems the zombies have gotten less spooky

[cunning fossil]

🥺

[foggy abyss]

This may be a bug

But I can't log into the game

It just doesn't load

[ivory meadow]

the world server is down currently.

[foggy abyss]

Oh.

I expected a message since I still managed to log in the game just didn't load

Thanks for the heads up

[forest sphinx]

Is the PTR still borked from this morning?

[left anchor]

yes

[tiny stream]

I finally finished the new player experience. THe zombies in Ogrimmar made this SUPER hard

[solar hemlock]

I found this funny some of friends playing the ptr

[tiny stream]

I died 3 times on that world boss, But I didn't mind it because he felt really difficult and hard.

And Nathanos should feel that tough.

[twin bloom]

i notice somthing on lfr can we do hellfire citadel?:)

[tiny stream]

Wdym

[fallow smelt]

Is the scourge event at org only or all cities

I just wanted to try out unstable affliction but i cant level cuz org keeps killing me ahahha

[inner copper]

Is there a reward announced or found yet?

Like the transmog set from pre-patch legion or the war of thorns mount from pre-patch BfA

[solar hemlock]

@fallow smelt que for a dungeon or something

[fallow smelt]

At level 9 do i have dungeons?

[night swift]

I think level 10 maybe

[fathom vapor]

Probably a month? Maybe a little less?

[fallow smelt]

Thanks jhock!

[tropic trail]

pre patch will probably hit live servers sometime in October

[violet karma]

spreadin it

ok i have infected westfall

onto stranglethorn

update: Nesingwary's Expedition has been infected

[crystal spade]

should i report this as a bug? or

[tropic trail]

did Blizzard cleaned ghouls ?

i dont see many

[violet karma]

probably becasue people have been clearing them

[tropic trail]

ah

yea people are finally tired of them

[violet karma]

i'm going to zones and infecting them lmao

[tropic trail]

Im hoping they tune it down a bit tomorrow or next so I can do some quest and other testing

Ptr is bad bugging for me rn, anyone else?

I'm experiencing a little bit pf lag in sw but not badly

I get "world server is down" when trying to log in to different characters

I can't even log out from stormwind now

[broken kraken]

is it just me or do worgen have cat eyes now 😮

like wtf. their pupils are slits now

hmm i changed my worgen toons appearance customizations and it changed the human form too? thought they were seperated now

[tropic trail]

they are, could be a bug

[violet karma]

classic tradechat, smh

[broken kraken]

heh

[elfin walrus]

This zapper quest is no bueno

[broken kraken]

where do you go to test the new lvl zone

[elfin walrus]

You create a new character

[broken kraken]

oh just a basic lvl 1?

[elfin walrus]

Ye

[twin furnace]

oi

wtf is with the ptr warrior class trial

[digital badge]

when was released echo of dooms on ptr?

[solar hemlock]

anyone else have this bug

[frozen stratus]

the missing profile ?

[solar hemlock]

idk I could not see the boss

[frozen stratus]

thats really weird

[solar hemlock]

I mean I put in a bug report so whatever

[frozen stratus]

Hows this ptr lol

All good

Congrats though

[willow seal]

Man, I've been just playing with these customization

Apparently, Orc has DK only skin tones

same with Dwarf

And Draenei

and others

but not panda?

Or worgen human forms?

That one seems like a mistake

[hasty tendon]

@willow seal In Wrath when DKs were added, Blizzard added unique DK skin colours to all races that were playable at the time
They did some for Goblin as well in cata, though I don't think they added any for Worgen (though I can be wrong on that one.)
They haven't added any DK exclusive Customization since.

So the Allied Races didn't get any.

And no one is getting DK only customization in Shadowlands, from what I know.

On Retail, you just need to select some specific faces on the core races to access the unique skin colours.

[willow seal]

I commented because I literally saw new DK customization on the ptr

Worgen are definitely getting DK skins

[hasty tendon]

I looked through them earlier and didn't see anything that's not on Retail.

Can you send a screenshot of it?

[willow seal]

I never noticed that the races always had dk skins

Give me one minute for worgen

https://imgur.com/a/4ohZMC6

https://imgur.com/qaktTQP

but they still dont get the skins as humans

[hasty tendon]

Huh

Yeah, Worgen DKs only have 12 options on retail for skin colour.

Wait, no

Lemme character create real quick.

[formal dawn]

Is Chromie not working in PTR yet ?

[hasty tendon]

It doesn't look quite the same, but I see 3 DK skin colours in your Screenshots

There's 3 DK skin colours on retail.

So unless one or more of the previously DK-unique skin colours have become available to everyone, no new DK skin colours have been added there.

Actually...
It all makes perfect sense
Look at your screenshots from before
The one at number 15 is different in the two of them, because the DK number 10, 11 and 12 are shoved in the middle, instead of being added on the bottom.
That's why the two don't line up, the one you have selected isn't even DK specific, it's the one that's number 14 on regular Worgen, despite being number 17 on a DK worgen.

[weak garden]

Lvling on pre patch is going to be tuff with all the zombies I mean if u wont to just stay in a safe spot and dungeon grind dont seem bad lol playing a priest lvl 12 healing freehold is different but so nurfed bosses almost drop as fast as trash

[storm marsh]

I really wonder what made them change all male void elf faces by adding this dark eye socket. I'm not sure if I like this. They sure do look more edgy than before, but right now - they remind me of undead elves.

[sullen dawn]

Can nelf/belf demon hunters please use the new eye options please?

Sucks having fel eyes or blindfold. I wanna use night warrior eyes. It was possible in 8.1 but they removed it

[hasty tendon]

Well, while lore reasonings aren't as set in stone as we seem to think, there's a very good reason for the special DH eyes that doesn't allow you to use any of the new options
Part of your powers come from a ritual where your eyes are gouged out.
So the only non-blindfold option you have just sees them pouring out fel energy.

It wouldn't make much sense for them to have radiant gold eyes.

Also, you know, the whole "Elf eyes reflect what magic they use" kinda thing.

[sullen dawn]

I get that lore wise

But even if they dont give us normal eyes, night warrior ones should be available

Itd be easy to write over the lore there and say elune restored eyes

Tbh its so small not super concerned about lore here

[hasty tendon]

Who knows. They might just surprise us and give the option, I wouldn't object
But what I'm saying is that them not doing it is understandable, too.

[storm marsh]

is anyone able to log in on new character (exile's reach selected)? it keeps dc-ing me at 90% on loading screen

[ancient jasper]

I also noticed Night Elf Death Knights no longer have the Night Warrior option either

[storm marsh]

actually, it seems like I can't log in on any character

[ancient jasper]

Which is interesting

[storm marsh]

I really wonder what made them change all male void elf faces by adding this dark eye socket. I'm not sure if I like this. They sure do look more edgy than before, but right now - they remind me of undead elves.
None of the Void Elf NPCs got this weird eye shade or whatever it is. Imma need them to change it asap

[terse patrol]

Now you know how gnome players feel.

They gave all gnomes weird bags under their eyes.

[ancient jasper]

Pssh who cares about Gnomes? xD

[bitter flame]

Did they fix the damn Suramar elf?

[uncut lintel]

@frozen stratus told me too https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329807329245659147/742825307022557295/Arcane_yep.png

[bitter flame]

The PTR character login is completely borked

[frozen stratus]

yes

it is

[ancient jasper]

If you're talking about the character screen give it a minute or two

It eventually loads

[foggy abyss]

I can't log in once I selected a character

been like that for a few days

I'm guessing it's just a bug atleast that's what I've been told

[tropic trail]

Hey is the pre patch content in ice crown not working right now?

[final lily]

Is the rep grind for allied races removed in the prepatch or Shadowlands launch?

[bitter flame]

Somewhere...in that big ass hole in the sky over ICC is all the beta players

[pulsar minnow]

I somehow managed to get all the way from Exile's Reach to Kul Tiras questing in the midst of a zombie apocalypse

[frozen stratus]

congrats

[pulsar minnow]

Orgrimmar still a mess though?

[frozen stratus]

it wasnt too bad when I was making class trials for change testing

but that was like 5 am est

[pulsar minnow]

I really love this new pacing

I'm actually looking forward to every level

[lime venture]

Today is week 2 ptr testing?

[frozen stratus]

its like

day 2

[obtuse vine]

Yes but they will test ‘week 2’ today

Like the questline and that

[lime venture]

Nice

[frozen stratus]

oh right yes

yes yes

super excite

[obtuse vine]

Yep

[limpid spade]

anything new regarding the Gift of Nzoth on the PTR? or Beta

[river herald]

World server down?

[final lily]

Cant login either

[tiny stream]

Week 2 is theoretically today!!!

[tropic trail]

i was able to log in

[formal dawn]

loving the login simulator so far. having a blast looking at that blue progressbar, although I wish it changed colors from time to time. to keep things interesting and stuff

right so world server is down

[ancient jasper]

Unless the Zombie stuff is tuned down a lot for live this is going to be a cluster****.

[tropic trail]

@ancient jasper it will not be up all the time https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/1293353327497842689

Jeremy Feasel (@Muffinus)

@CBloodrider It cycles this time instead of being up all the time. Players can only become zombies via NPCs for a bit every couple of hours, but if they want to keep the zombie train rolling during the down time, they can via player actions.

Twitter

[ancient jasper]

The end part of that Tweet is what worries me. You KNOW people will keep it running 24/7.

[final lily]

Today it was better in Org still new players stand 0 chance

[tiny stream]

I did manage to finish the new player experience in Ogrimmar yesterday

But I died 13 times doing it

[hidden girder]

why cant i login to horde characters?

[obtuse vine]

I see week 2 quests are now available ?

[mystic heart]

@obtuse vine where>

[obtuse vine]

Ptr

[mystic heart]

can't login cuz world down

[obtuse vine]

Someone already uploaded the quest line on YouTube https://youtu.be/BXTm0acTCJI

[mystic heart]

thanks

[obtuse vine]

Np

[hidden girder]

So are all the world servers down because i cant login into any of my PTR characters?

[tropic trail]

No

I just logged in right now

[hidden girder]

i cant

[mystic heart]

looks like broxigar

[hidden girder]

im on nobundo

[tropic trail]

Love what they have done with the place

[hidden girder]

anyone know when this whole "world server is down" thing is going to get fixed or is it just luck with logging in?

[tropic trail]

im getting "world server down" when i try to log in to a character thats in SW

nvm was able to log in

[tiny stream]

Is week 2 up yet?

[jade tusk]

Not sure if this should be PTR or Shadowlands Beta related, but I got an answer to what the actual flag is for skipping BFA and choosing your own expansion. Was this already known?

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/official-choose-your-own-adventure-flag/610499

[tiny stream]

By the way, Week 2 is up

[tulip sun]

Any interesting story in week 2

[pulsar minnow]

Mawsworn lady says something pretty interesting

"Reclaim what is rightfully his"

Referring to Azeroth's world soul

[elfin walrus]

World Server is down :c

[hot hull]

big sad

do we know how long?

[dense plover]

no - ptr isnt live

everything breaks and they barely announce anything

[fading girder]

@pulsar minnow: Azeroth gender-fluid confirmed?

[dense plover]

what?

thats not how sentences work

the mawsworn is clearly talking about the jailer

his

as in the jailer

who is male

"Herald Dalora: The hour draws near when the Banished One shall reclaim what is his."

also - pretty sure it isnt about azeroth

its almost definitely tied to oribos and the shadowlands and the fact that the jailer is "the banished one" which means he used to live somewhere else and have a different job

[pulsar minnow]

Ah. I took it as Azeroth as she immediately followed with the “death comes for the soul of this world” mumbo jumbo.
But yeah. I also think it could be referring to Oribos too. I just went with Azeroth since we know he wants it.

[fading girder]

@dense plover: i didn't know the context. It was part-joke for that reason

[jade frigate]

Question.
In Public test realm, are they using Shadowlands system requirements specification or BfA system requirements specification?

[sonic flame]

shadowlands

ptr is basically already shadowlands, it's just that the new xpacs zone and levels aren't unlocked yet, but every other system in the game is shadowlands's

[left anchor]

is ptr working fine now?

[dull flame]

no

[formal dawn]

it is for me

[dull flame]

i still get black screen

and when you pick starting zone

i get time outs

but once you are in works fine

[tropic trail]

servers went down?

I think so

[warm harness]

is this normal for the demon hunter tattoos

like when there on

[mossy perch]

yup its normal

[warm harness]

are you sure its normal....

[frozen stratus]

Its a bug

[ancient jasper]

Take off DH tattoos

And it fixes it

[tacit hatch]

they sacrificed alot for those scars

[tiny stream]

Did the PTR go down for anyone else?

[warm harness]

Yes

[tacit hatch]

they just shut it down not too long ago

[formal dawn]

it's up for me

[raven haven]

My fiancé can't log into PTR as Horde. Anyone know why?

Nvm. He got it.

[hidden girder]

its glitchy you just gotta get lucky

[raven haven]

Do you know why the servers keep going down and dcing?

Like, I've never had a PTR/beta before. So I'm new to this stuff. Lol

[hidden girder]

because its a test server

[fading girder]

probably a lot of people trying to get in

[ebon vortex]

How long typically is it before PTR stuff goes live?

[hidden girder]

depends on the devs

[ebon vortex]

Is there a general time frame we can assume for the prepatch then?

[violet karma]

eventually

[hidden girder]

usually a little bit before the DLC comes out

[slender plover]

Does anyone else have trouble with copied over characters? As soon as my 120s log in they DC and that keeps happening. :/

[plain flame]

messing around with the new starter experience & character customisation is making me so impatient for this to come to live

[ancient jasper]

Yep. The Character Customization especially. I can't be the only one that thinks Transmog and Customization is true endgame. xD

[broken kraken]

how much longer you think til pre patch hits?

[frozen stratus]

2 years

[tropic trail]

probably 6 to 10 weeks

[dense plover]

10 weeks is a closer bet

[broken kraken]

from now or what date?

10 weekks out would put it at about october 20th as far as tuesdays go

[tiny stream]

The BFA pre-patch Ptr to pre-patch live was 1 month

[high sluice]

looks like some more WQ's are up today on EU PTR

Just seen two new quests on map:

Cleaning Out the Vault
Careful Creations

[formal dawn]

Where?

[high sluice]

Icecrown of course

[lyric heart]

Actual world quests or dailies? I saw yesterday something about unlocking daily quests and not the wq type like in darkshore

[austere gazelle]

The demon hunter white face is normal.

In the rush to test the PTR 9.1, the demon hunter didn't have time or forget to put make up , so in short, the demon hunter white face is due to the fact that

He/she wasn't... prepared

[cinder stirrup]

i've sacrificed everything...including my FACE!

[tidal fiber]

xD

ecks de

[sinful pasture]

Anyone want to do some Shadowlands campaign questing? Just started the PTr on my ally!

[strange falcon]

you may be mistaking PTR for beta

the only things on the PTR are the prepatch

no "Shadowlands" proper content there

that's the beta

[sinful pasture]

Ohh, then excuse my ignorance, it's been a while since I've been on!

@strange falcon

[shut blade]

Maybe already ask but, is it normal i get 1-4fps but my Internet is good like on retail ? Because its not playable at all...

[mossy perch]

fps isnt tied to your internet

[harsh wedge]

Might be an addon, a setting that is not the same as retail, or your computer does not match the recommended settings for shadowlands

[austere gazelle]

sometime the PTR / beta client is not yet optimised graphically speaking

I had this for BFA , it was really crappy during beta, and someday, a patch corrected all of this and my game was fine like retail

[twin furnace]

w o r g e n

t a i l s

[ionic sphinx]

probably gonna be a reality soon

[left anchor]

till what level are we using the essences?

[hidden girder]

probably when shadowlands comes out

[tough iron]

Anyone who is currently on PTR can help me? I'm kinda new to the game

[night swift]

Wait what? Youre new to the game but playing on the ptr??

[tough iron]

Yeah, one of my friends told me to download it.

[night swift]

Why

[tough iron]

To play with her

[night swift]

Thats a bad idea on her part

[tough iron]

Ahh.

[night swift]

The ptr is a test server, its got bugs and is not meant for normal play

[tough iron]

I think she said she wanted me to level up a character so i can keep it when new shadowlands comes out

[night swift]

What

Thats not how that works

[tough iron]

ohh

[night swift]

You gotta play the actual game

Not the test server that resets every now and then

[tough iron]

So play BFA?

[night swift]

Yeah like

Is your friend new as well?

[tough iron]

Shes played for a while i think. she has like 3-4 120 characters that she has showed me

she just told me to download it, and hasn't been on in couple days

[tiny stream]

Essences will only work in BFA zones

So if you are playing in Nazjatar/Uldum/Vale then they will still worj

[night swift]

Yeah I wouldnt do that tbh

Just play normal wow

The ptr is unreleased content

[arctic pendant]

Essences should still work

same with azerite traits

[frozen stratus]

essences, azerite traits work still in sl just not in sl zones

[arctic pendant]

but when you get to the actual zones within the Shadowlands they stop working

[frozen stratus]

you lose your ties to azeroth so you can no longer use azerite in the shadowlands

yeah

you'd also think they'd stop working on draenor/outland and argus tho

as well

[arctic pendant]

the only thing that is turned off is corruption.

[velvet wind]

Well the rest are planets in the Great Dark Beyond, the SL is another plane of reality

[frozen stratus]

I guess but I thought the lore was they just dont work unless you are around azerite?

[velvet wind]

I'm not saying it makes sense

[frozen stratus]

ye

[velvet wind]

It's prolly that they don't want to retroactively do that

[frozen stratus]

maybe

[velvet wind]

plus it feels back to go back to do old content and half your kit is disabled in the current expansion

[frozen stratus]

I remember seeing a quote from blizz that actually the azerite stuff may only work in BFA zones

but that doesnt seem right tbh

[crisp steeple]

it is

[final lily]

Are all the scourge dead now? Cant find any lol

[night swift]

theyre doing that in waves

to prevent some areas from just being unusable

[crisp steeple]

humans still don't have scar menu. Scars locked to combinations of the new faces and skin colours

someone message blizz RIP

[final lily]

Oh thats a good idea, is it every hour or something

[silent urchin]

I don't know exactly how it's set on PTR, but muffinus did tweet this: https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/1293353327497842689

Jeremy Feasel (@Muffinus)

@CBloodrider It cycles this time instead of being up all the time. Players can only become zombies via NPCs for a bit every couple of hours, but if they want to keep the zombie train rolling during the down time, they can via player actions.

Twitter

[tropic trail]

I'm curious about what time it starts and ends. All I know is when you see plague crates and critters running around then its starting

[mighty python]

I'm getting Assertion Failures by flying in Zul'drak near the Rhino at Gundrak. anyone else able to confirm? It's like I can't even look at him.

[ivory meadow]

was scrolling through races, saw this, and jumped a little.

[tropic trail]

She looks ready to bite some ankles

[cunning fossil]

She actually looks menacing tho

Which is NiCe

Short and evil

[fading girder]

most of her enemies won't be able to see the fury in her expression

[cunning fossil]

Not until they're at her feet in ashes that is

[plain vigil]

Why she be teething like pennywise tho

[cunning fossil]

😂

[glossy dove]

uhm im trying to get ptr right so i click on get ptr account and it doesnt show up

[frozen stratus]

Like in the bnet launcher?

[glossy dove]

yes

[frozen stratus]

Do you have a ptr account made yet?

You have to go make a seperate account for it on the battle net website

Under accounts or something i think

[glossy dove]

ye

i clicked on that thing

and it said

ptr account made

[frozen stratus]

So it should show up under the drop down menu that you would use to switch to the classic client

Over the big play button

Does it not show up?

[glossy dove]

?????

wha

you mean like

on the place where u can switch to classic

you can change to ptr

?

[frozen stratus]

Yes

[glossy dove]

cause no it doesnt say ptr

[frozen stratus]

Hmm

Relog maybe

[glossy dove]

il try in a bit

i just started playing classic

[glossy dove]

quick question what does the WoW1 (XX) do?

and the WoW2 ( XX)

[glossy dove]

someone?

[fading girder]

you can have multiple WoW accounts on your b.net accounts

one might be an old trial

[slow shard]

I'm trying to create a trial character to test out other classes but its not working for me. Nothing happens. Is that happening to anyone else?

[strange falcon]

Have you considered that trials may be disabled on the ptr

[night swift]

^

[mighty jungle]

i have been able to make trial chars on the ptr

[tiny stream]

Does anyone know when week 3 comes out?

[formal dawn]

Trials aren't disable on PTR

[vivid harness]

[slow shard]

that's a furry ass

[night swift]

r/woosh

[crimson jasper]

so there's still the holes, man l really hope they add tails

[untold hinge]

So when we can continue quests, when new quests come up?

[inland anchor]

when it'll be ready. probably this week

[cunning fossil]

How does one get into PTR?

I don't see the option over my Play button like I see alot of others do

Even tho I already have "Created a PTR Account"

Is PTR just down for RN?

[crimson jasper]

it should be there, if you only just created the account it might need a bit to recognize it

[cunning fossil]

Gotcha thx

[crimson jasper]

np, restarting bnet could also help before you check again

[cunning fossil]

It says like WoW:LEgion and it's tagged as PTR account

I don't think this is right? :0

[crimson jasper]

mine just sais public test realm, but l created mine ages ago

[cunning fossil]

Oh NVM I got it

😮

[crimson jasper]

but maybe check it and

ah

there ya go

[cunning fossil]

I'm gonna be one of the cool kids now

ANd lag for 15 minutes before crashing the server ^^

[crimson jasper]

spread the word of the Worgen tail hole xd

[mossy perch]

👀

[crimson jasper]

l need worgen tails in my life

[cunning fossil]

Worgen Tails pls

23 gig download tho

Kek

[crimson jasper]

yeap

[ancient jasper]

Much as I'd like Blizzard to add optional tails to Worgen I just don't ever see it happening.

[cunning fossil]

Don't make me lose hope T^T

I Want FLUFFY

[crimson jasper]

there's always hope

they added a lot of stuff over the years we didn't think we get

[cunning fossil]

Just got into PTR

And I have invisible night elf

[crimson jasper]

they should add that xd

[cunning fossil]

XD

Actually being in PTR is such an experience

Kinda pumped ngk

[crimson jasper]

hehe, didn't get overrolled by zombie apocalypse hopefully xd

but they turned it down iirc so

[cunning fossil]

What should I do first?

Just the main campaign questline?

Is trying to take the portr to inforge in Boralus a bad idea?

[crimson jasper]

no idea heh

get them bugs to report!

[cunning fossil]

Understodd hue hue

[balmy lynx]

if one goes to take apart the worgen female skeleton, there are actually deactivated tailbone skeletons. I'm unable to post any pictures to pertain about it however. Also keep in mind, about 60% of the worgen animations are bugged at the moment, and when alpha first released Worgens werent available to players. Now I'm not saying this is confirmed, but there's a chance, or at the least it was considered within the developers. Keep in mind there's still more to be added, and they said they were going to touch up on other races in the middle of the expansion. Again, Hope, but no confirmation.

[pulsar minnow]

A bunch of races were disabled throughout the Alpha

They get disabled when customization options are added. Worgen had theirs added early on.

[crisp steeple]

Blizz better give scars to all human faces/skin colours, and some new dwarf beards before expansion goes live >:(

[balmy lynx]

Comparing Night elves to most other races however, its isnt even a fair comparison. Nelfs have like 20 different options where a few races still have only 5. Which goes further on their words about adding more customizations later in the expac or closer to release

[crisp steeple]

nelfs have sooo many choices

[pulsar minnow]

Well, do realize that race popularity is probably a contributing factor in who gets what

Night Elves and humans are the most popular Alli race, and they got a ton of stuff.

[crisp steeple]

humans don't got a lot though

only non-basic customisations humans got are eyebrows and face shape

meanwhile others get scars, tattoos, acessories and piercings

[ancient jasper]

Humans got scars as well

Just not as an option and only on specific faces

[crisp steeple]

yea

so not really an option is it

if it's locked to the new face and skin colours

[night swift]

meanwhile blood elves are the second most played race and got very little in terms of face stuff and hair

[crisp steeple]

BEs got like second most shit

[night swift]

females got jewelry yes

but not a lot for hair and faces

males got fucked

[crisp steeple]

pretty sure males got acessories too

[night swift]

nope

[crisp steeple]

gonna check dressing room

[night swift]

they had the body chains taken away

[crisp steeple]

ye you right

males didn't get any acessories

[night swift]

yeah they got screwed over

[crisp steeple]

Blizz why do you only give females jewelry and acessories

doesn't make sense

[night swift]

people dont even really care for the jewelry

[crisp steeple]

if male do get piercings, it's only like a basic iron ring

[night swift]

since most of it is covered up

[crisp steeple]

doesn't make seeeennnnseee

at blizzcon blizz said like they wanted to make humans more representative of real people

so they restrict skin colours and faces and scars

[pulsar minnow]

They don’t restrict skin color faces and scars

They just have certain skins with scars

[crisp steeple]

only asian faces can use the 3 new skin colours only for example

should be able to use any face and any skin colour combination, and scars should work for any face and any skin colour

https://external-preview.redd.it/6BHFZnG3ozq7BMw8Gtyo_zOOIJ1tslu1Bn2tIiMjn3E.jpg?auto=webp&s=2c27acde1f5c60fcd828011b4cfe72ab5bb0ddee

[opal storm]

So no dark skin asians. Some people might get disappointed because of that xD

[dull flame]

dark skin asian ? you mean indians ?

[opal storm]

dunno. I saw many people memeing about creating asians with dark skin color)

[calm elbow]

I don't seem to have allied races as an option on PTR, any ideas?

[civic burrow]

i have, but i have acces to accpint of my friend and he hasn't too. When i will arrive at home, i will send screens

[night swift]

You have to copy a character first and log in on them to get the unlock achievements

[dense plover]

some of the skins dont work with some of the faces because the faces are modelled differently

so a scar over the eye on one face would go through the eyelid on another

etc

thats why some skin tones are limited to some faces

[dense plover]

can you not break the rules?

i'd rather not call a mod

<@&299347348847329281>

they totally can

dude is gonna get banned

[west relic]

hmmm

can you like.. not be a tool?

[wise peak]

inaros#8007 was banned | Troll

[dense plover]

thank you

[mossy perch]

thanks thulm

[strange falcon]

thulm doing the lord's work

[tiny stream]

Week 3 is available. The mission is in Icecrown over your faction airship

[crisp steeple]

wonder if pre patch will give any mounts, pets or toys

[dense plover]

all are a possibility

bfa gave a mount

legion gave pets, toys, and transmog

[frozen stratus]

Need all of the above

And xp

[tiny stream]

Is anyone having random glitches with the mission icons in Week 3

[dense plover]

the scourge zone stuff will probably give XP

[tiny stream]

Why are a bunch of enemies level 30 now?

[crisp steeple]

how long are pre patch usually on PTR?

[frozen stratus]

Because thats the Max level for classic, tbc and wotlk

[dense plover]

@crisp steeple its not consistent and this clearly isnt a normal PTR

they advertised it as a "limited time"

they are specifically just testing the questline

not the leveling or anything else

[tiny stream]

Wait so is that side of the PTR over?

It was just the 4 days?

[dense plover]

what side?

what?

[tiny stream]

The icecrown story.

Are they only doing week 1 and 2

[dense plover]

they just started week 3

theyre going to test all of the prepatch quest

but they arent testing the new timewalking journeys

which is the new leveling

normally they would

but again - this isnt a normal ptr

[tiny stream]

Then why is Icecrown reset to the Lich King version

[frozen stratus]

This is a preliminary ptr from my understanding just to make sure the event really gets as many eyes as possible over it.

[dense plover]

^^

[frozen stratus]

Which makes sense.. this is a one time event that goes away forever. I would hope they would do everything possible to make sure there aren't any issues.

[tiny stream]

I just want to test week 3 and 4 and the dailies added during those weeks, because I have found some bugs in 1 and 2

[ancient jasper]

Uh.. The PTR Blue Post literally says they are testing Core Class Updates, In-Game Navigation Improvements, New Player Experience, Character Creation/Customization AND the limited-time Scourge Invasion.

[frozen stratus]

Yes

Does it say anywhere in there about the massive overhaul to leveling?

[ancient jasper]

Might be considered part of the new player experience? shrug

[frozen stratus]

No thats exiles reach

[ancient jasper]

I'm just saying it's not specifically to test the Zombie Event.

[frozen stratus]

Well its by far the least tested and newest part of the entire thing

Everything else has been tested tons already on the beta

[ancient jasper]

Yet somehow DH's losing their face with tattoos on slipped through.. xD

[frozen stratus]

Yeah

[ancient jasper]

Just saying more testing is ALWAYS good. 🙂

[frozen stratus]

Its probably a render bug or some shit

Well yes

[dense plover]

the character customization bugs (the shiny tattoos and missing faces) and known bugs

and are probably fixed internally

[ancient jasper]

Oh and 90% of Transformation Toys have solid white untextured eyes. A few have untextured skin as well.

[dense plover]

yeah

they havent done final passes on that kind of stuff

because theyre still tweaking it

they dont do passes on that until they arent making changes that will break it

[ancient jasper]

I hope they manage to fix them all without breaking them further.. The Fire Druid toy still has a weird black aura around the bottom for no reason.

[austere gazelle]

they'll focus on specific part everytime

first the event, to test the server loads and how players react, collect data => correct and fix problems, bug and balance

then they'll move on another point of the ptr

allowing everything at the same time just dilute player presence and just dilute the data collected, the more the focus, the better the data

[ancient jasper]

Eh.. I'd say having everything interact at the same time is better just to see what might break if they do so Blizzard can fix it before release.

[austere gazelle]

sure, but you have to collect data, sort them, and apply a fix

having the same stream or source of testing helps a lot

[pulsar minnow]

Here’s something interesting

It seems that the BFA zones now have a chronological order

I can’t choose between Zuldazar, Nazmir, or Vol’dun. Now it just gives me Zuldazar.

[frozen stratus]

oh dang

thats cool

[fading girder]

a few days ago i was able to choose any of the 3 KT zones

[frozen stratus]

probably changed it recently

[jade frigate]

Guys... does the ptr using bfa system specification or shadowlands system specification?

[night swift]

Shadowlands

[jade frigate]

Im surprised that my laptop runs fine in max settings

[night swift]

That could change in shadowlands zones

[jade frigate]

Oooh

Tysm for the answer 😊

[sinful pasture]

How far does the pre patch questing go to? #beta-ptr-spoilers

[ivory meadow]

🤷

[night swift]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tulip sun]

I have no quests for week 3

Did they remove the shadowlands prepatch ptr

[inner copper]

Is there a known reward for the pre-patch event? Like the mount from the BFA pre-patch?

[pulsar minnow]

No

[ionic terrace]

Looks like they turned off the event though

For now

[tulip sun]

Was anyone able to see any if the story in week 3

[pulsar minnow]

Week 3 hasn’t been added

[tulip sun]

I thought I read above that it was

[pulsar minnow]

There’s nothing on the PTR dev notes that state it was

So it probably isn’t in

[tulip sun]

Do we have any idea if they are adding it back?

[tiny stream]

I feel like they got the feedback they were looking for

[tropic trail]

Is the ptr down? Everytime I open it i can click join game and then my character falls like 10 feet. It freezes. And i get dc'd. First time i've ever tried playing on a wow ptr so Im not entirely sure how it all works.

[austere gazelle]

its sounds like a bug

report it ^^

[tropic trail]

is there a way to report bugs outside of the button that shows up when your in game?

cause i literally cant click anything before it kicks me

[mighty jungle]

try creating another char and send a report from it?

[agile token]

On the forums @tropic trail

[broken kraken]

anyone knownhow to get past the quest where you supposed to rescue meredy st the newbie island thing?

[graceful carbon]

@broken kraken i think that bugged on me and i had to log out and back in to get the goblin to respawn

[untold hinge]

When week 3 starts?

[ivory meadow]

when it does.

we don't know.

don't even know if there is a week 3.

[sonic flame]

I hope we get scaling fixes asap

we got our hp squished down to 1/30th of what it should be, mobs down to 1/5th, i feel super weak when playing on ptr

I believe player's scaling is fine, but mobs are broken

[broken kraken]

hm i went into 25 heroic icc on ptr copied 120 warr an steam rolled for personal testing etc didnt have any issues @sonic flame

what mobs can we fight on ptr if we cant do shadowlands stuff yet

[formal dawn]

Is Class Trial broken for anyone else all of a sudden?

[frozen stratus]

it has issues with high erver latency/load

[formal dawn]

I create my class trial, but then it stays at level 1 and if I try to login, it just errors and my character gets flagged as "This character is currently processing"

[frozen stratus]

relog

if it doesnt work try making it again

[formal dawn]

it's been like this for more than 24 hours

I wanna try out the new balance druid changes 😦

I suppose I can create a class trial on live and copy that toon

[frozen stratus]

ye

[unreal geyser]

Will there be more SL content in the PTR?

Now there's only the starting zone right?

And the ghouls in orgrimmar smh

And is it worth playing through as alliance as well?

[frozen stratus]

What do you mean by sl content?

Like the actual shadowlands stuff?

[orchid lodge]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ptr-development-notes-updated-august-11/608365

this is what you will see on PTR and on live Pre-patch

nothing more

[thick saddle]

Will there be more SL content in the PTR?
@unreal geyser No, PTR is for the pre-patch only ! And there's more to it than just the new starting zone...

An entire level squish with a new max level of 50 (currently 120 on Live, and in Shadowlands will be 60 maximum). All the Class Changes and new talents/skills/unpruned skills, as well as the Scourge Invasion content (which leads directly into the intro for Shadowlands).

I am unsure if they got "Chromie Time" on the PTR as of yet, which is likely to be released at the same time when it goes live, and allows you to level through ANY expansion from 10-50, unless you're a brand new player, in which case you're stuck with BFA 10-50.

[rapid badge]

Doesn't seem to be enabled on PTR yet, although the screen is showing up as intended when you meet the requirements

[thick saddle]

PTR has quite a few bugs currently, so it will probably come a little bit later.

[rapid badge]

The issues with instances, disconnects and stability are of concern for now

also class balancing. arcane mages are kinda way out of the loop right now, almost 1-shotting everything early on

4 stacks arcane blast does hurt a lot

[sonic flame]

what mobs can we fight on ptr if we cant do shadowlands stuff yet
@broken kraken bfa instanced and non instanced mobs

i was farming motherlode for raw gold on retail and could pull literally the whole instance and onehit it down by going full hp in tank spec and then using the HoA tank ability

on ptr I die if I pull more than like 8 mobs

i got squished from 800+k hp to 33k

mobs that have 150k on live have 30k here

[uncut lintel]

@sweet sky i made it into my Shadowlands worgen https://im6.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-6-ab6d409b9c2e.gif

[tropic trail]

mine is cooler

[uncut lintel]

eww

lol

@tropic trail why is the right ear have triangle in it

[ivory meadow]

Your worgen looks so beautiful! @uncut lintel

[uncut lintel]

thannk

[digital estuary]

img not found 😦

[graceful carbon]

@tropic trail That looks like a Howie Mandellthknight.

Howie Mandell ||for reference ||

[tropic trail]

Really does

[unreal geyser]

@unreal geyser No, PTR is for the pre-patch only ! And there's more to it than just the new starting zone...

An entire level squish with a new max level of 50 (currently 120 on Live, and in Shadowlands will be 60 maximum). All the Class Changes and new talents/skills/unpruned skills, as well as the Scourge Invasion content (which leads directly into the intro for Shadowlands).

I am unsure if they got "Chromie Time" on the PTR as of yet, which is likely to be released at the same time when it goes live, and allows you to level through ANY expansion from 10-50, unless you're a brand new player, in which case you're stuck with BFA 10-50.
@thick saddle Really helpful. Thank you so much!

[dapper moat]

A list of items that drop from SL dungeons in a cleaner category to find em easier if anyone is interested.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yUqOQWQdCRsJAdd0knVjU9IIutm5FdnfbuAy0RzuHkQ/edit#gid=748667550

[lone marten]

servers shutting down

[storm marsh]

yay

[quick spire]

Did the beta go down as the PTR did?

[tropic trail]

Not sure. PTR is still down

[quick spire]

I hope they add the boot transmog to Exile's Reach now

[graceful carbon]

PTR Started an update?

Anyone else?

[tropic trail]

yea

[graceful carbon]

woo!

@minor mirage PTR has an update available -> potential new build?

[agile token]

1.31GB update

[tropic trail]

servers are still offline btw

mmm interestint 1.31 gb update

could it be more questing?

[graceful carbon]

Most likely

[tropic trail]

mm

[graceful carbon]

Shadowlands Beta - Build 35598

[amber jay]

What new? @tropic trail

IS server up?

[graceful carbon]

SAerver is not up yet

[weak bison]

ptr is updating for me

[graceful carbon]

It's been updating lol

new build's out and datamining etc

For some reason tho mine doesnt want to do finalization

[weak bison]

THEY FIXED IT

THERES NO MORE RACES HAVING 'OILY' LIKE LOOKS

[agile token]

ray tracing has been enabled!

[graceful carbon]

Time to test out the ray tracing 😄

[weak bison]

aw, unsupported for me

(GTX 1060 6gb btw)

[grizzled spade]

It's better not to try it without an RTX card

[weak bison]

maw has a new look?

[amber jay]

Whats new now?

[graceful carbon]

actually cannot try raytracing

I got a rtx 2070 w/ newest driver too

[rapid badge]

Worked for me here, but I have the 2080ti

realms are unstable for now

[graceful carbon]

That's kinda messed up; it should be 2070+

[polar furnace]

I have a 2080ti so hopefully itll work

[languid dome]

Í can enable it on 2070 @graceful carbon

[graceful carbon]

weird af

it is definitely showing greyed out for me lol

[polar furnace]

I cannot enable ray tracing shadows sooo

[agile token]

Did you update your driver?

[polar furnace]

but i can do what tenebrarum did

[agile token]

Nvidia was releasing an update for this specifically

[graceful carbon]

Yeah updated driver; i literally got the RTX 2070 on monday lol

[polar furnace]

ill go update mine and see if i can change the setting

[polar furnace]

Yeah i get that box too with the red

[polar furnace]

are addons working on ptr too?

[languid dome]

some

i'm only using Elvui to avoid crashes every 5 secs 😛 ... nothing's too stable

[lime venture]

ptr is up?

[rapid badge]

it's up but getting kicked and locked out of toons

50 DKs in the allied race starting zone

[polar furnace]

so is the prepatch stuff all gone or

[tropic trail]

don't know about it. My server is still down

[graceful carbon]

Confirmed Chromie Time working for the Alliance on PTR

[polar furnace]

i just tried flying into ice crown and got insta dc

[tropic trail]

I'm still waiting for shadowlands new zones on ptr

[graceful carbon]

Chromie time also working for Horde

[tropic trail]

I want to test out maldraxxus so badly

[frozen stratus]

those will never come onto ptr

[tropic trail]

it must be

[polar furnace]

have old xpacs ever gone on ptr in the past?

[tropic trail]

would be really weird if they don't

[frozen stratus]

only beta

ptr is for pre patch only

[tropic trail]

dyre i understand but they will i'm sure

like when beta is finished

[frozen stratus]

nope

[tropic trail]

these contest would transfer to ptr

and beta wouldn't last long

[frozen stratus]

they will when pre patch is over :3

[strange falcon]

on the mirror t3 toy,i just clicked on another discord,and the FIRST message i saw was "a small win against the casuals" in terms of the change to 2hr cd

[tropic trail]

yeah that

[frozen stratus]

so when the expansion launches

unless you get beta you won't see the actual expansion content until it launches

[tropic trail]

so basically still they would go to ptr

[polar furnace]

I agree with banana

[frozen stratus]

its not a thing up for debate lol

[polar furnace]

Technically if it went to ptr it would still be in beta

[tropic trail]

[polar furnace]

I dont have beta access and at this point I dont want it because I dont want to be spoiled of the story/gameplay etc

[tropic trail]

I don't care about spoilers. I want to test out maldraxxus zone so badly

I've seen video of it but can't find gameplay

[polar furnace]

I feel same way with ardenweald but that zone has a ton of lore so I am dodging things relating to that zone

[tropic trail]

so I guess that they haven't finished ardenweald and maldraxxus zone yet?

[polar furnace]

I think they are done or almost to the point where the expansion is content complete

[tropic trail]

but they have with vampire and basion. Like gameplay with questing, dungeons and other such

mmm understable

[polar furnace]

my bet is prepatch will launch next month then we could see an october release of the xpac

[tropic trail]

yeah indeed my bet pre patch shadowlands on retail is also in next month with 80% possibly

or in october with 99% possibly

[polar furnace]

also speaking of ptr i just went in ice crown and all the mobs are scaled back to level 30

so idk if the prepatch is on the ptr

cant find the argent crusade peeps either

[worthy tartan]

You can't level on the ptr, can you?

[tropic trail]

you can

to 50 i think

[worthy tartan]

really? once testing is over can you use that character in retail?

[tropic trail]

no

[worthy tartan]

good xd

[agile token]

lol no

[tropic trail]

it would be bug if blizz allows it

[worthy tartan]

but this is blizz

[tropic trail]

@polar furnace hmm that's weird

last time i played there was argent crusade

perhaps these zombies ate them all

[upper lantern]

PTR update 😮

[graceful carbon]

If you're having issues with Raytracing -> https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ray-tracing-issue-bug-rtx-2070-w-newest-driver/616128/13

[final lily]

Are the new class changes live on PTR like the DK, DH and Warlock ones.

[frozen stratus]

yes they should be on ptr

[final lily]

Ok sweet thanks time to test later!

[uncut vault]

looks like the two brief storylines is all there is to the prepatch, that kinda sucks

[frozen stratus]

Oof

[tulip sun]

Yikes

I expected one or two more weeks

[graceful carbon]

Woo so far i got it working, Able to macro the link for your current set map waypoint pin

[graceful carbon]

BOOM CRACKED IT!

[worn sand]

https://twitter.com/NaesamGaming/status/1296252630327390209

Naesam (@NaesamGaming)

Evidence of the aforementioned mana issues. I went oom in about 60 seconds of multidotting without using bloodlust or any utility as an Elemental Shaman in Shadowlands. Please dont attach mana to DPS, we need it for utility/healing too. @WarcraftDevs @WatcherDev https://t.co/...

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can I get a topkek for blizzard balancing?

[mossy perch]

yeah, saw the ele changes and didn't like them very much

[worn sand]

it's not the changes

it's the mana

[mossy perch]

yeah but they changed some abilities to use mana / more mana today

[worn sand]

ah those yeah

why I refuse to play shaman

not again

[mossy perch]

its why i'm worried going into SL with mine

i hope eventually they get it down but, if not I got about 6 backups waiting at this point

[worn sand]

mate it's shaman

you gotta have crippling depression just to play it

each xpac it might as well be a new class entirely

[mossy perch]

oh I know. It's why I play it well 🙂

[worn sand]

[mossy perch]

its a shame because I really enjoy ele right now, and these changes are.. iffy.

[frozen stratus]

Wait i have crippling depression

Guess its time to play shaman

[mossy perch]

but I'm hoping by the time it actually rolls around then they'll have sorted it

[graceful carbon]

ptr restarting 😄

[vivid harness]

Shame I only have regular depression

[frozen stratus]

Im gunna be a necrolord enhancement shaman

[mossy perch]

marc can only play sub rogue

[frozen stratus]

But sub rogue is gon be good

[mossy perch]

so is ele bro

so is ele

r-right

[frozen stratus]

For a single patch

Sub rogue just has some complete bullshit coming its way

[worn sand]

ele's only strength has been 5 + targets

with the aoe cap they don't really have anything left

and apparently windfury totem sucks

[cunning fossil]

Tell them you don't like it guys.

Like tell them to make each spell like 2% base mana if they wanna keep it. They may want to keep it which I think is fair

[mossy perch]

have been, but it's only went up like.. today, a few hours ago lmao

not expecting changes immediately

[cunning fossil]

Making mana slightly relvant again

Wellyeah, but just give feedback is what I mean

They'lve been listening so far.

[worn sand]

if mana is relevant, actually give mana tide back

life tap

evocation baseline

[cunning fossil]

Evocation is baseline for Arcane

[worn sand]

baseline for all specs

[cunning fossil]

But what I more so meant was slightly morew relevant,

[worn sand]

as it used to be

[cunning fossil]

and this may be the first step in that, which is totally fair.

[frozen stratus]

oh rip ignore what I said earlier

[worn sand]

hell, warlocks have a chance of going oom as well

with 2x drain soul speed

[frozen stratus]

I thought it was about the warlock doom thingy

[worn sand]

but what's the point of one dps spec running oom when the other doesn't?

[cunning fossil]

This is definitely due for adjustments

As like, these things are gonna be horribvle for PvPing

Seeing how much your base heals cost

So I doubt it's gonna go live like this

[worn sand]

there's no way it does

but in modern wow, there's no reason for any caster to go oom

cept for arcane

that's part of t he design

[cunning fossil]

That new chest enchant that increases mana pool by 6% is looking more and more appealiing tho

[worn sand]

for healers 100%

[cunning fossil]

FOr Arcane maybe

But for Shamans

That's an extra couple of spells right there bois

[worn sand]

that's a nightmare

which shamans already have to deal with losing their biggest upside

[cunning fossil]

Of cours eit's a night mare, I'm mostly fucking around

[rapid badge]

Righto, so Random dungeons with Chromie doesn't work. It just puts you into a BfA dungeon regardless of which era is selected

[formal dawn]

Same here

[storm marsh]

is there an option to disable NPCs facing you?

[worn sand]

no, why

[frozen stratus]

its creepy tbh

im assuming you feel it too stoneheart?

the weird look in their eyes

the stare

[worn sand]

it's almost like real people look at you

[frozen stratus]

their obvious desire to consume your soul

[worn sand]

and you're a flipping hero

[storm marsh]

yeah its super creepy

[strange falcon]

imagine you're a guard and you're chilling,and this guy on some weird squid dressed worse than the janitor on a bad day

walks past you

what you do,NOT turn to face him?

[frozen stratus]

Its fucking creepy

[worthy tartan]

area looting is unlocked?

also meredy quest is bugged again xd

[tropic trail]

i can see shadowlands new zones on map

which means we will go to there soon

[frozen stratus]

they've been there

technically they should actually be in game on ptr but inaccessible afaik

[tropic trail]

really? Last time I played it doesn't show up

mm indeed

[worthy tartan]

Did they update the animations?

[orchid lodge]

what animations?

[tropic trail]

Also i've tested warrior arms on trial character. So basically I was doing questing on airship like basic learn stuff which I know what to do but then at final stage where invade assault happens on airship and I find it weird. Because I kept dying while trying to kill enemy npc. They seemed more powerful than legion and bfa or i'm not sure which is issue arms warr or these npc

and also npc isn't dealing damage to friendly npc. Neither is Friendly npc to enemy npc

hopefully they fix it soon

[worthy tartan]

@orchid lodge Walking backwards animation looks incredibly different as well as a couple others but i could be wrong

[zealous basalt]

Is The Rescue of Meredy Huntswell bugged?

[fading girder]

it bugs when a hunter tames the quest mob, apparently

you'll have to wait until a server restart 😦

[digital badge]

2 weeks for 9.0 release?

[tranquil steeple]

.. no.

[sonic flame]

lol no we aren't even close to that

the ptr is a mess

[night swift]

What? God no

[digital badge]

2 weeks would be a month of ptr

[mossy perch]

and it's still broken

we've got at least another month and a half minimum

[digital badge]

2 month and a half?

:S

mid October?

[sonic flame]

the later the better imho, i honestly think they should have pushed sl for the next year

but apparently they aren't doing so

mid october means sl comes mid november, which is perfect

[digital badge]

Late is not always better

[mossy perch]

late is almost always better

i'd rather have it fixed and ready than rushed and shit

[night swift]

To quote Miyamoto

[digital badge]

if the work is good, it's not always good to get it out late

[mossy perch]

okay but you can clearly see the work isn't good right now

so would you rather have shit or a good game

[night swift]

looks at bfa’s beta

[digital badge]

bfa beta was much less polished than this

[night swift]

Its still a mess right now

[zealous basalt]

there isn't an release date

even a *

[strange falcon]

while shigeru's quote is true in most cases

it's not gospel or 100% key to success

delayed game can still be shit,and sometimes not delayin a game can be more beneficial

[mossy perch]

..except that if they released it now it'd be shit

so delaying is clearly the good option here

its not even an argument lmao

[strange falcon]

i know