#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 558

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 4:46 AM

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There's trikes and they have tires

calm plank Nov 9, 2019, 4:46 AM

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some tires aren't made of rubber

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but they most commonly are

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 4:46 AM

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True

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One of the goblin trikes has a wooden wheel xD

calm plank Nov 9, 2019, 4:47 AM

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that probably wouldn't be a good material

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 4:48 AM

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As a carpenter, I can tell for sure

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It's usable, but terrible especially on hard ground

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It'd get damaged instantly

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You could however cover it with something

novel zodiac Nov 9, 2019, 4:53 AM

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plastic should exist

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how do they make wires if they don't?

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Rubber

novel zodiac Nov 9, 2019, 4:53 AM

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hmm

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Never seen plastic in Azeroth but I have seen rubber

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 5:15 AM

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rubber is used for isolating wires

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plastic would melt

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dont think they use plastic

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they barely use petroleum

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goblins just burn oil as they pump it

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they dont even process it

calm plank Nov 9, 2019, 5:19 AM

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don't have time for that

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Thanks Peach xD

mighty wolf Nov 9, 2019, 9:30 AM

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Why blizzard cant just leave activision to make wow great again? sad

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Cause they’d be losing out on a LOT of money

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 11:21 AM

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prove it

mighty wolf Nov 9, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Looks like 9.0 login screen

📎 IMG_20191109_142228.jpg

frigid crater Nov 9, 2019, 11:23 AM

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pogcham

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 11:24 AM

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9.0 login screen,is either the trailer shot of the tower and icecrown

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or torghast's fullview they showed in an art panel

daring dune Nov 9, 2019, 11:25 AM

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But loading screens usually are drawn

cyan prairie Nov 9, 2019, 11:26 AM

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login screen, not loading screen

daring dune Nov 9, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Oh

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My bad

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Yeagh, maybe

uncut vault Nov 9, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Login screens are also a mix of art and game assets, that is full CGI

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

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i said that place was going to be login screen

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not the image that was posted

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 12:40 PM

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login screen of 9.0 is just the WOTLK screen but with the new skybox and torghast you heard it here first

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same angle, same everything, no sindragosa tho

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since she ded

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x2

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 12:44 PM

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doubt it

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 12:44 PM

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well blizz does like reusing things

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i mean we did have the dark portal 3 times

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the gates of ahn qiraj would've been a pretty sweet login screen in vanilla tho

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Legion is seen as TBC 2.0 but it didnt use a variation of tbcs loginscreen(dark portal,but green)

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While i do beliebe SL's login screen will be definitely related with torghast,i dont think its a straight up reuse of Wrath's

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

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you can't really count legion as tbc since it was on azeroth mostly (legion)

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

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And that is definitely an interesting choice for a profile pic

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

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7.3 definitely gave me TBC vibes tho

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it would've been nice to get an entire expac to take down sargeras though, but i get why it was one patch, he'll be back probably

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Inb4 expac after shadowlands is
"World of Warcraft: Infinite"

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👀

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Return to Argus

pulsar iris Nov 9, 2019, 1:34 PM

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after shadowlands will be Return of Sargeras

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and after that will be Return of the Liches

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and after that Burning Legion Gone For Good This Time

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I hope they go back to the old Login Theme

languid yoke Nov 9, 2019, 1:58 PM

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(they won't)

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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i want a full on pirate expac, BFA tickled us with kul tiras and expeditions. it's time

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drink up me hearties yo ho

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World of Warcraft: South Seas

novel zodiac Nov 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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i hope it never happens

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we went to fight in space to some ships

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@unborn glacier you realize the login theme is a remixed version of the vanilla theme,with that expansion in mind

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@strange falcon They moved away from the iconic theme from every xpac (even Vanilla) before BFA

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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if the iconic theme is the one you have at classic's login screen

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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every expac theme has been a variation of the vanilla theme

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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then i can assure you,all expac's themes are a remix

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with the same core theme

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if you bother to listen for more than 5 seconds

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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BFA does not have that theme

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And I have

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BFA was the first time they moved away from it.

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

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bfa is special

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 2:14 PM

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@strange falcon I see you misunderstood. I know every xpac has been a remix of the vanilla theme. I am saying, BFA is not.

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 2:32 PM

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it sounds alot like it though

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listening to it rn online and it's the same dananananadundun

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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It really doesnt

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It is a very distinct theme, and they moved away from it in BFA. Wowhead actually remarked on it when the BFA beta was up

cyan prairie Nov 9, 2019, 2:44 PM

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about WoW expansions - we've managed to visit different worlds with different titans or other shit, and we still haven't seen the other side of Azeroth

bold granite Nov 9, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@cyan prairie the world is flat

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We have seen it all

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😂😂

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 2:53 PM

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LOL

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 2:56 PM

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we have like 2 interdimensional ships yet we didn't just bombard orgrimmar instead of watching saurfang die

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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no other side thats it we are done with Azeroth

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 3:26 PM

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not really

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theres stil alot, like Tel Abim, Plunder Isle

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 3:28 PM

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its all gone

cyan prairie Nov 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Zandalari could destroy whole alliance attacking Zuldazar with their Lazer-Dinos but they didn't do it too

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it'd be just boring if both sides used some OP things instead of letting us fight

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Sylvanas could go wipe all alliance leaders alone in BfA, but she didn't do it, because it would be just boring.

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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sure she could

cyan prairie Nov 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Some may think that the choices Blizz makes with the story are dumb, but they actually allow us take part in it, instead of just watching "stronger heroes fight".

steel venture Nov 9, 2019, 3:47 PM

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TBH. They could make stuff in the Veiled Sea.

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It's apparently supposed to be scary, which is the lore reason why most ships try to avoid traveling through it.

storm marsh Nov 9, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Pretty sure when they start have not much content to make expansions about

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They will introduce new stuff from the other side of Azeroth

vivid harness Nov 9, 2019, 5:23 PM

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prob

sullen dawn Nov 9, 2019, 5:28 PM

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There's dozens of potential expansion concepts left, I don't know why people say they're running out

storm marsh Nov 9, 2019, 5:53 PM

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I dont think that. Just saying when they eventually run out

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Ka'resh

sullen dawn Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Not you necessarily, just seen it posted on forums a good amount

novel zodiac Nov 9, 2019, 6:23 PM

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they have to milk that cow

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all i see left are the void lords

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but i don't think we're gonna fight them any time soon

sullen dawn Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yeh Reorigination (revamp), loads of time travel stuff (black empire, azsharas reign, 1st war, 2nd war), ka'resh, non legion demons expansion (maybe dreadlord homeworld), other side of azeroth, titans expansion (showing what they've been doing on other planets) light vs void war, main cosmic war (all 6 forces)

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Not to mention anything they can just asspull

flint meteor Nov 9, 2019, 6:27 PM

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+++

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:32 PM

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space pepe

tulip sun Nov 9, 2019, 6:36 PM

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They can always create new stuff

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 6:40 PM

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...other side of azeroth?

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isn't the map just for representation's sake? surely the west coast of EK closely borders the east coast of Kalimdor

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Nah

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Try seeing it from Argus?

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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We actually have in-game tellings of any ship that goes east of EK or West of Kalimfor never return

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Just sayin'

safe light Nov 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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The current map is like 1/3 to 1/2 of actual size

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:45 PM

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And, I imagine the Dragon Isles are on the back

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With another Titan facility like Ulduar

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Oh? interesting then

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i take it back

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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So many Uld's

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Ulduar, Uldum, Uldir

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The next place with Uld in its name will probably be Uldeer, a titan facility full of deer people

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 6:47 PM

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The Matron of Vitality gives us the names of Titan facilities we havent seen yet

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Uldorus

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Tbh some/any of those may have been the Eternal Palace

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Oh, my Uldear Emu and your imagination xD

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 6:48 PM

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no that is actually one MOTHER says

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at any rate it hard reminds me of trying to name my alts

📎 A4gms3t.png

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 6:49 PM

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But yea pretty much all known places to have titan facilities in game have Uld in their names

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Wai wah

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Now it shows your faction on the right?

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Or did I just not notice it?

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Also ew you main a lightforged? How could you forsake core races?

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You wound me, Emu

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Uldamn you to hell

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 6:57 PM

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did you forget this exist, which was turned into disc emote aswell.. because emu. emuthonk

📎 emuhmm.jpg

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 6:59 PM

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emuthonk

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also yes I main a lightforged cause yes core races are cool but so is Light's Judgement

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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why have self-heal when you can have aoe nuke on demand as racial

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just misdirect tank and LET 'ER RIP

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 7:02 PM

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bold of you to assume I get past that step 1

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i mean, i play survival Light's Judgement is the only thing that'll make me misdirect

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also i play keys with demon hunters, they have 3 funny-300k-dps buttons I may as well give myself 1

round lake Nov 9, 2019, 7:16 PM

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dunno if posted https://youtu.be/b9fxlUvt6mA

YouTube

Icy Veins

N'Zoth VO (Patch 8.3)

In Visions of N'Zoth we'll take the fight to N'Zoth, the Corruptor himself and here's a preview of his sound files!

▶ Play video

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 8:18 PM

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MAKE YOUR PEACE MORTALS, THE WORLD SHATTERS AND THE BLACK APOCALYPSE BEGINS

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 8:49 PM

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#blacklivesmatter?

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@tropic trail thats not very funny

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also dont bring politics into this

sullen dawn Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Please dont make posts like that

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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its unneccesary

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just like

sullen dawn Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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You ass

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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do you want to get banned?

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 8:50 PM

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"just like" "your ass"

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Best anime teamups

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Sorry, forgot the woke and correct crew aka Karen from Facebook. Get ready for shock and horro reading in game chat, when the black empire happens.

limber mural Nov 9, 2019, 9:13 PM

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what exactly are you trying to prove

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:14 PM

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That he is better because he can handle these kind of topic better than us with humor and bla bla bla

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Maybe its because unlike other parts there are something called rules here?

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Have you ever stop and use that head of yours that maybe is that why every stuff like that is reacted upon?

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I mean

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They are at #welcome-rules

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I cant believe you are that dense then

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Vulgar, obscene, inappropriate, offensive, or NSFW material will be deleted immediately and the user responsible will be punished accordingly.
• This includes, but is not limited to: Sexist, homophobic comments, racial slurs, political discourse, harassment, threats of any kind or otherwise offensive material.

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Uh

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They kinda did when they say "dont bring politics"?

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Oh, im not in a high horse

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But as i said

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:19 PM

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what's going on here

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lol

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:20 PM

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if you are that dense to not understand what is "decent" or not, let's ask a mod and see if that thing passes or not

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<@&299347348847329281> Above, the '#BlacklivesMatter?' message, against the rules or ok with it?

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:21 PM

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wtf, this is a bit childish imo

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:21 PM

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And what makes it a joke

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Oh, I am a mexican, I lived in black humour and might be one of the less sensitive people of the world, but even I know where to make a joke and where to not

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Ah, the rebel state

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You said it, everyone have different opinions, you see it as dark humor, others see it at offensive, others see it as a political stuff, and others doesn't care about it

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The reason I pinged them

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:25 PM

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its not dark humor, it isnt funny

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its insensitive

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he took a thing related to old gods - and then took a political movement, and then followed the line "black apocalypse" with the political slogan

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thats not funny, that borders on racism

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if you cant see that

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thats something you need to fix

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:28 PM

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no, i agree with you - although i have nothing to do with this

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:29 PM

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a political movement doesnt have to involve a president

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do you not know what politics are?

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black lives matter is a political movement

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theres no such thing as a people's movement that isnt a political movement

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:29 PM

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A v old one

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:29 PM

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^

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this

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and the borderline racism comes from regarding an apocalypse with a political movement tied to a specific group of people

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Omg guys xD

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:30 PM

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im really suprised we havent had a mod show up

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we definitely need one

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Should I ping

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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There are 3 mods atm from the 9 that usually are

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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what is even happening? @long blade has nothing to do with this

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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I did

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Oh

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:31 PM

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yeah

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theyre all political movements tho

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they dont have to be about political issues to be political movements

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 9:32 PM

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BLM is a political movement

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Yes

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It is

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:32 PM

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no its political tho

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like

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first of all

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definitely fully off topic

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:32 PM

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BLM is off of the Civil Rights Movement

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:32 PM

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we have a no politics rule

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like from the start, we have a no politics rule

unborn glacier Nov 9, 2019, 9:33 PM

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MeToo is a movement that pushes for actual legislation

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:33 PM

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guys

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all yall

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stop

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:33 PM

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The fuck??

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:33 PM

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big ol rule

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no politics

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so cut it

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"1. Vulgar, obscene, inappropriate, offensive, or NSFW material will be deleted immediately and the user responsible will be punished accordingly.
• This includes, but is not limited to: Sexist, homophobic comments, racial slurs, political discourse, harassment, threats of any kind or otherwise offensive material."

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"POLTICIAL DISCOURSE"

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you are both going to get in trouble

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just on that front

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because you wont stop

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so stop

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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what trouble is there to be getting into?

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Shh

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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dark or not, it's not going to change that it's political

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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^

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politics are against the rules

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period

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so stop

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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👀

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:34 PM

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thank fuck

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onyx help

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 9:35 PM

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👀

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 9:35 PM

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if anything politics "go" to #no-wow-discussion, and even then there's some limits.

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yeah y’all being in ptr chat ain’t helping your cause

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Bruh

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Onyx

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plz

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just

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shakes head

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🤦‍♂️

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Yeah no dude. Politics don't belong in PTR-spoilers.

tropic trail Nov 9, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Perhaps I should clarify a bit because, wow, what a discussion. I see right wing politics on the rise around me every day. Sometimes shit goes violent. Now, I can role around on the floor in a fetal position in fear or decide to tolerate snafu and laugh at it. Black lives matter was a response to the above comment about the black empire. It's just my sense of humor. For me, the moment something becomes untouchable, be it due to political correctness, it loses its equality. All people are equal. If I had decided to quote Starwars instead, this may not have started. Fact is, unfortunately, a lot of people will be offended by the jokes and memes the Black Empire will bring.

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:38 PM

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If you really wanted to, they should be in off-topic but you should be mindful of our first rule.

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Oh boy

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:38 PM

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• This includes, but is not limited to: Sexist, homophobic comments, racial slurs, political discourse, harassment, threats of any kind or otherwise offensive material.
• Please note that shaming, bad mouthing, or expressing dislike of a user on our forums or Discord falls under harassment and will not be tolerated.

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:39 PM

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i already posted that onyx

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they dont care

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Y’all really gonna argue with a mod

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:39 PM

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like literally i already told them

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i dont want to have that power

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:39 PM

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He does have a premium role lol

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:39 PM

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if i did you wouldve been banned 10 min ago

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im a lot less forgiving

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or at least kicked

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Really

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yikes

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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no because youre literally ignoring all of the rules

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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How about, you drop the namecalling 🙂

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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dude we have a no name calling rule

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Onyx he’s done this with me before I’ll just point out

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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lol if that's so 🙂

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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lol

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yeah its not like i contribute lore theories

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thank god

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Lol

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:40 PM

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so he's gone

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 9:41 PM

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we're missing a banhammer emote

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:41 PM

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so let's um move on, shall we? 🙂

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:41 PM

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yes plz

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Ye

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paladin

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:41 PM

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I'd just like to point out, that it wasn't him who did the original statement

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but ok

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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he kept posting politics

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when he was told to stop

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and then broke other rules

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lets move on

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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He was arguing a lot

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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ok

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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And resorted to name calling

rotund sorrel Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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dw, we're working on it. Move on please 🙂

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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ik it's not necessarily WoW related, but I wonder when, or even if I'll get WC3 Reforged beta access

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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So, the full patch story is on ptr, but we havent gotten to see the scenarios related to the other assault phases

dry knot Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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doesn't anyone with a blizzcon ticket?

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Did you gave a ticket?

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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i dont think we have even seen the 3rd uldum invasion with the aqir

night swift Nov 9, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I just wanna see the new dk intro

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:44 PM

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we might not see it until release. apparently its similar to the other allied race intros

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short quest, maybe a cutscene and then they let you play

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not like the current DK intro

tranquil steeple Nov 9, 2019, 9:44 PM

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nah, I can get enough general info about spoilery stuff/future releases here in Wowhead, after watching the Opening Ceremony stuff

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and then look around for relevant YouTubers' content on it

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 9:45 PM

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i mean,it is called ptr-SPOILERS

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🤔 <.<

dense plover Nov 9, 2019, 9:47 PM

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so you guys

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since we have seen 1 of the unique questlines for the assaults and we have some datamined stuff

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what do you think some of the other unique quests will be?

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i know one of the mogu ones is about them having a giant stone statue that they are using to invade the vale

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and we saw the explorer's league one in uldum

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but we dont know the mantid one or the aqir one

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or what lili is doing in all of this because she has dialogue

strange falcon Nov 9, 2019, 9:54 PM

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id expect lili to be related to the vale assault

zealous basalt Nov 9, 2019, 10:11 PM

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damn it

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I've been absent for all evening. inserts michael jackson eating popcorn image. Back to real world, I'm really looking forward to see who will be our main characters of the expansion, besides Bolvar in Shadowlands

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-popcornday-national-popcorn-day-gif-9265562

Tenor

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here you go

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just for you

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Hehe 😁

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:21 AM

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so outside of bolvar

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probably darion mograine

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I think Tyrande will be part of night fae area (forgot the name), but I doubt she will be involved more deeply to the main story

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Knowing Blizzard and her character

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:23 AM

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she will be

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they already confirmed that

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Thats nice to hear

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:29 AM

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heres some sneaky datamining tidbits

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locus walker is back

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theres a few voice lines

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:29 AM

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In 8.3?

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:29 AM

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yep

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theyre tagged 835 but a lot of the 835 vo is really 83

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its not implemented yet, as in - its empty currently

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but it wont be forever

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Locus Walker is awesome, they should do more stuff with him

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:30 AM

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also, all of the other dragonflights have vo and stuff

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and none of the dragonflight stuff is on ptr currently

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sooooo

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i think theres a decent chunk of story that is either post raid, or is purposefully not enabled

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theres a conversation lillian has with geyarah

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 AM

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He might as well wear a "Hi I am void" T-shirt

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 AM

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about the forsaken and the horde

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lillian is the representative of the forsaken

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but it does seem like she wants someone else to lead

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 AM

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And she calls Calia?

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:32 AM

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dunno

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probably?

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but from what we got from the calia stuff

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calia isnt interested

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so it moreso seems like the story is heading in the direction of pushing lillian into that position where she DOES rule

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Lillian is also awesome. Purple fire ftw, don't at me

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Oooo, check latest news for class changes

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Let's see what monks get changed

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:34 AM

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i mean

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its nothing new

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theyre just taking the info we have already

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wowhead doesnt have any new info

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yeah so theres a bunch of dragonflight dialogue

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all of the different members we have seen are talking to each other about various things

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the horde and alliance, theres a bit about kalecgos and jaina

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its quite a bit of VO

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i wonder when it takes place

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also, while the horde has a council now, baine is definitely more in charge

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almost all of the scenarios that need a face for the horde have baine at the head

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same with dialogue

zealous basalt Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 AM

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no

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 AM

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snort

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Mak just swoops in like no

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 AM

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There must be something related to that questline in brawler's guild

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I mean since its related to ethereals

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:45 AM

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I just raged my way through the fights

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And got rank 8

storm marsh Nov 10, 2019, 4:45 AM

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I mean that came to my mind when Locus Walker was mentioned

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Just see me scream while listening to Dope - Die mofo die

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Mainly cause I was mad

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I couldn't manage to do Ahoo'ru

tulip sun Nov 10, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Baine probably is just in charge of day to day in orgrimmar

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or simply is the one there at the moment

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:48 AM

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thats also possible

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i didnt say they were going to make him warchief

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i just was saying he is in nearly every conversation about the horde

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:49 AM

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So Thrall just gets back to Outland?

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What a waste of a model

night swift Nov 10, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I doubt it

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:50 AM

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oh man

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listen to nzoth

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he sounds so awesome

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1 sec

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lemme reformat

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📎 nzoth34.ogg

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there we go

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 AM

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My favorite old god voice is in Blackfathom Deeps

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C'thun's voice reminds me of the G-Man from Half Life

calm garden Nov 10, 2019, 6:31 AM

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was it ever brought up which old god is heard in blackfathom?

vivid harness Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 AM

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prob cthun

calm garden Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 AM

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nah c'thun sounded different then that

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Like its obvious that theres still annother old god out then who hasent revealed themself yet expect for that one case

midnight saddle Nov 10, 2019, 6:57 AM

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the voice line was tagged as nzoth if i remember right

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back when it came out

calm garden Nov 10, 2019, 6:57 AM

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ah

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its funny as the dude who does n'zoths voice i think was the same one that did his voice during the well of eternity dungeon when he yells at deathwing

cyan prairie Nov 10, 2019, 7:19 AM

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The Voice heard in Blackfathom Deeps sounded closest to G'huun so far.

austere gazelle Nov 10, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Ghuun was sealed at that time. And blackfathom = nagas and sea shit : nzoth domain

cyan prairie Nov 10, 2019, 8:09 AM

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I mean, that literally the voice heard there is most similiar to G'huun's voice we heard in BfA.

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Not that it was him speaking there, but just that they have similiar voices.

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 8:26 AM

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What have I stirred with old god voices?

strange falcon Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 AM

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You never considered that they could have changed voice actors

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Like how some characters in WC3 have different voices in wow

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 10:02 AM

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from what i heard he doesn't sound that intimidating tbh

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MAKE YOUR PEACE MORTALS does sound initmidating but, then it's not when you realize much like the godfather of the burning legion, N'zoth, doom of azeroth is going to get wasted in a single patch mostly likely, so he can get replaced by Sylvanas and the Jailer, unless he simply goes into hiding and becomes a 3rd secret antagonist in shadowlands like he was in Legion and BFA

cyan prairie Nov 10, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Every old god got wasted in a single patch so far...

austere gazelle Nov 10, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Only xalatath is remaining

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And we dont know if she is an OG

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 12:37 PM

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guys, i have a question about leveling in 9.0

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they said that it will be faster, like 60/70%

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but it will be faster than before the leveling revamp in 7.3.5?

harsh wedge Nov 10, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Leveling atm is about as fast as before 7.3.5 so yes

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 1:08 PM

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wasn't it faster before 7.3.5?

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they nerfed the heirlooms

harsh wedge Nov 10, 2019, 1:17 PM

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If you follow things like azeroth auto pilot it still is "fast", plus the fact that you scale with the zones helps (less traveling so less downtime on xp) and you can now fly in pandaria directly which helps a lot

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 2:02 PM

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anyone hoping they update the wow icons like they are doing for WC3? i mean alot of wow icons are just w3 icons

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i could see it as a possibility in 10.0 tbh

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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it would be nice

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some people might be against it though

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 2:06 PM

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they have wow classic for a reason

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 2:07 PM

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yeah, but you know how nostalfgs are

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 2:12 PM

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but it would just be hd versions of the icons

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Leveling in 9.0 is probably going to take around 16-20 hours from 10-50

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Currently leveling takes upwards of 50 unless you use every single thing to boost, but even then....

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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i remember ion saying that leveling alts in the scourge 2.0 was gonna be a thing

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how much do the pre expansion events last?

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2 weeks?

dry knot Nov 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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no more than 1 month, but probably less

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 2:35 PM

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and when that comes the squish will be implemented?

dry knot Nov 10, 2019, 2:35 PM

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i think so, yeah

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Squish will come with prepatch and so will prepatch event

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:13 PM

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just wanted to say on the subject of the blackfathom deeps voice

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I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard for an old god to use a different voice

sullen dawn Nov 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

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im pretty sure they didnt even have names of the other old gods back then

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like, was N'Zoth even a concept?

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I'm not sure tbh

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I think the first time we heard of n'zoth was through hearthstone

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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we saw N'zoth physical form for the first time in hearthstone

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but we already knew that he existed

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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I remember back then we weren't even sure how many old gods there are

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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well we don't know how many there are

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there's 4 on azeroth though

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5 if we count g'huun, 6 if the potential old god in chronicle wasn't g'huun

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:45 PM

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i mean

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we know they can use different voices

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at least as of 8.3

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nzoth does a deathwing voice at some point

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like it starts off as deathwing and then becomes nzoth in one ogg

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:46 PM

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where is deathwings body

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:46 PM

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melted?

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

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it's probably under the sea?

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and I don't think g'huun was an actual old god

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

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unda da sea

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

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(tho maybe xal is/was one)

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actually now that the devs told us that chronicle is from the titan's perspective

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:48 PM

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mmochampion theories say Xal is a fragment of Shul-Nagruth, who was consumed by the other during the early black empire

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:48 PM

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it means they wouldn't know if there was a fifth old god that was consumed back in the early days of the black empire

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:49 PM

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considering Shul-Nagruth is dead tho

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he was just a WB in bfa

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though, that giant tentacle maw in the Twilight Highlands

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:50 PM

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found it

📎 DeathwingNzoth83.ogg

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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its probably a forgotten one

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yes, it is possible there WAS a 5th old god

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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that's a nice voice line

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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thats never not been a possibility

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what we do know is there are currently only 3

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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ye

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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with yogg and cthun being dead-ish?

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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blizz pls don't forget about xal

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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and yshaarj being fully dead

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they havent

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theres dagger dialogue

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the dagger is relevant

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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did they clarify how yogg and cthun are doing?

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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which means xal will be

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I don't care about the black blade if xal isn't in it 😤

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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they said we should consider them dead for now

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but they arent dead dead

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its unclear

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i fully expect this to NOT be the end of nzoth

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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so they're dead but they still might be coming back if the lore need it

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same

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I hope it's not the end of n'zoth

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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i think we end up destroying nzoths body

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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cause otherwise it'd be pretty lame

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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and then nzoth ends up in the dagger

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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actually released old god ends up just being a raid boss

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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essentially creating a bolvar situation

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"break dagger in case of dropping sub numbers"

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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hehe

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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so that when they feel its appropriate, they can go full black empire

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theyre essentially giving us a taste of what that is

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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honestly stuffing n'zoth in the black blade doesn't sound like the best of plans if you ask me

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considering it has a notable history of slipping out of hands when it wants

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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i mean, it sounds great because then nzoth has no body and can be locked away

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the problem is that it almost definitely is the goal nzoth wants

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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I hope so

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I really doubt n'zoth wouldn't see something like that coming

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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why would he give us the dagger that can 'defeat' him if he knew that?

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he wouldnt

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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exactly

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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unless it plays right into his plans

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all of this, from the start, has been leading to the Shadowlands

#

the void corruption of the dream was hinted back in legion

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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is there a way n'zoth could profit from the current situation

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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honestly idk

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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wait

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shadowlands has all the dead people

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and y'shaarj is dead

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

#

no

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old gods go somewhere else

#

they made that clear at blizzcon

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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🤔

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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like how demons go to the twisting nether

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I haven't watched all of it

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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old gods return to the void

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BUT the void stuff isnt done

#

theres dialogue from alleria and the dragonflights post-raid that imply the void is still assaulting the various forces of azeroth

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

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ye

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

so its definitely gonna come back

#

probably after SL

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

maybe we'll get more stuff related to the void lords

#

I think we might get some hints of the void planning something here and there during SL

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

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i suspect they are saving void stuff for 9.0 because we already had a bunch with legion and bfa

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SL is functioning as a palette cleanser

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 4:59 PM

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I wanna know what xal is up to rn

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:59 PM

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i dont think we will find out until after SL

#

the way they have described it is that we are functionally leaving azeroth for a bit

#

which is the perfect time for stuff to happen while we are gone

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

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yeah

#

and it's nice to have change like that

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

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i dont think we arent able to return to azeroth during this time

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I loved kul tiras and zandalar but I'm ready for something new

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

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but like - our focus is somewhere else

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so people moving in the shadows will be more effective than normal

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

#

all the shit is going down in the shadowlands

#

meanwhile someone like n'zoth could totally profit from people not paying attention to him

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

also this is the first time we are getting something functionally wholly new since mists

#

we know NOTHING about the shadowlands

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

ye

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it's nice

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:02 PM

#

it means they dont have to worry about people saying that things dont work that way

#

or they got the lore wrong

#

unless its in regards to dead characters

#

im also hoping we see some of the forgotten characters who have been specifically noted as being in the shadowlands

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Kelthuzad

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Hakkar

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:02 PM

#

that could definitly be interesting

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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ysera might be there

#

Rezan (in the maw)

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Hireek (in the maw)

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

#

We see Ysera in the Emerald Dream

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

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oh thats true

#

wild gods and loa are weird

#

apparently sometimes they go to the dream

#

sometimes they go to the shadowlands (considering what they said about ardenweald)

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

why would rezan be in the maw?

#

he wasn't bad

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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because death is broken

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

everyone went maw

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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everything is going to the maw

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

oh right

#

nvm

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

thats the plot of the expac

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

i totally forgot that

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

We know that apparently Zandalari gods might go to Bwonsamdi's realm? Since he was able to pull Torga's spirit and have it be reborn.

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

Torga?

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

Torga

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

yeah possibly

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Whatever

#

LOL

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Alright deadass I'm going to say it right this instant

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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thats within the shadowlands

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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If there is a 'death machine broke, understandable have a great day' meme in this expac

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i doubt it

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its not an actual machine

#

its a figure of speech

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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You might as well uninstall now lol

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

yeah but they put a jojo reference in antorus

zinc sandal Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

You just jinxed it

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

they do what they like with memes

calm plank Nov 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

death machine 🅱roke

#

wait

#

they did?

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

#

i dont remember that

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

#

Argus meta achi is called Stardust Crusaders

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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thats an achievement reference

#

those reference everything

limber mural Nov 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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that's what i meant in the first place

#

i'm not expecting 20 iq memes in the content

#

I am expecting 20 iq memes in the achis

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

#

oh, thats a possibility maybe

#

hard to say tho

#

achievements are NOT named in advance

#

theyre named right before the content drops pretty much

#

or when they add the achievement

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it is not planned

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

#

WoW: Rise of Iso'rath

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 5:55 PM

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if we killed released N'zoth with the heart

#

how hard could it be to kill some hole in the ground?

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

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he's not just a hole

#

he's a forgotten one

#

there's like 5 of them

#

atlest that are known

#

and the sixth one arthas killed in WC3

novel zodiac Nov 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

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they're under the old gods

white bridge Nov 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Im pretty sure Arthas just killed a Servant, not the old god

dense plover Nov 10, 2019, 7:24 PM

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isorath is a servant

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thats the name of the pit

#

those big things are servants of the old gods

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 7:37 PM

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https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/thumb/0/0a/ForgottenOneWC3.png/200px-ForgottenOneWC3.png?version=00cc736e7762a530b1a04ad4dce28093
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/880966.jpg

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"the forgotten one"

indigo laurel Nov 10, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Dare I say the new version looks kinda cute in an ugly way?

calm garden Nov 10, 2019, 11:11 PM

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i still wander what xala'tath is doing now that she is techicly free of the blade like post n'zoth raid story and all

tropic trail Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 PM

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she lives peacefully on her very own farm

uncut lintel Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Awww hes so cutee I wanna pet him

austere gazelle Nov 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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She s a torche that will light the path said nzoth m. We will see her again

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 9:29 AM

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she went to free sargeras then, our true saviour

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 1:31 PM

#

So firstly, why would Xal be one of the torches?

#

Where are the other 4?

#

Secondly, it doesn’t make any sense in the context of the ilgynoth thing

#

They’re extinguished now

#

And they’re lanterns

#

The torches were the pillars of creation

zealous basalt Nov 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

#

So peach

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

#

Yes?

zealous basalt Nov 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

#

What do you think gonna happen after Shadowlands?

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:08 PM

#

Literally impossible to say

#

They could pull a world revamp since time passes differently in the shadowlands

#

They could have Nzoth break free of the dagger while we are gone and we return to a full black empire expac

#

We could get a void expac where we go to a different planet

#

We could get dragon isles

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Or we could just get unexpected stuff

#

We don’t have enough info to know

#

Shadowlands is so unknown that it’s impossible to say where we are going after

#

After the first or second major patch we might have some idea

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

#

explain how a wc3 panda joke became a full expansion and big lore stuff like nazjatar and argus r just patches

#

"Y'know, brewmaster was fun. Let's bring that back"

unborn glacier Nov 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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@tropic trail It wasn't a joke

#

It was never a joke.

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"pAnDaS wErE jUsT aN aPrIl FoOlS jOkE"

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

#

it was a joke

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

#

Pandas weren’t a joke

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

#

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Pandaren_(April_Fools)

Wowpedia

Pandaren (April Fools)

The Pandaren April Fools was a 2002 April Fool joke that Blizzard put up on their site, posting the pandaren as the so-called "5th race" for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos. While much of this material was later adapted into lore in later sources (The Frozen Throne, Warcraft RPG...

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

#

They were an Easter egg

#

Yeah but WC3 pandas were an Easter egg

#

Not a joke

#

And it became a full thing just like shadowlands did

#

We had no context for anything there

#

So they could make up whatever they wanted

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

#

they made a panda joke that became a lore later on

zealous basalt Nov 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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You are really biased to your opinions, don't you?

#

People can tell you about exact lore things and you aren't going to say yes, rite...

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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bouth of you are wrong.

#

Pandas are a joke

#

like heres map from 1999 with nazjatar that became a boring patch
https://i.redd.it/7uveo9ilea021.png

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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That map is wrong tho

#

Also I believe that Naz definitely wouldn’t have worked as an expac

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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anyway i wonder how many more big lore things r gonna be small things within the actual game

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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After having Naz as a patch I was firmly burnt out on naga by the end of the story

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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ye but panda joke was biug enough for a made up continent and history

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Having to deal with naga the whole expac? Fuck that

#

It was small enough

#

You misunderstand

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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but then what about legion, like the expansion? too much demons imo

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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The less previously existing lore, the more they can create from scratch, the more creative they can be

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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still worked

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

#

Legion was the exception

#

And they did a good job laying off the demons for the first major patch

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:44 PM

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oh yeah

#

true

#

but still, the rest of it was demons everywhere

#

they could've done the same with a naz expansion

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Not really

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Naz was all underwater

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Even if you bring it up, it’s all naga

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Broken isles was mostly created from scratch

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So they took bits of existing lore

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Not sure how you could be burnt out on naga by the end of the Nazjatar story when the naga didn’t even get any story of their own and were just generic enemy props lol

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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And wove them into something greater

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I meant burnt out in regards to that - I got sick of fighting them

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Yeah, I feel the same porter - we "defeated" azshara far too quickly

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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im already burned out of shadowlands and i havent played it yet

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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We didn’t tho - she is still alive

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Somehow

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Unfortunately

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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yeah, which is why i put it in "" marks

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Oh woops

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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we defeated azshara too fast but its okay to kill an OG with a laser beam

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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xD

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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I don’t think we are killing Nzoth

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I’m fairly certain he ends up in the dagger

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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broadcast text suggests it tho

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Which is exactly what he wants

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Audio suggests we use the dagger tho

languid yoke Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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yes and broadcast suggested we would have a dreamgrove murder mystery

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don't believe everything that is datamined

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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So i think it’s both

languid yoke Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Ion even hinted at that during blizzcon

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Beam weakens Nzoth

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And then we stab him

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Trap him in dagger

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Would've been happy with having people with the Eye help N'zoth get in the dagger and people who fight N'zoth laser beam him

languid yoke Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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taking a little jab at datamining and that everything that was found must be true 😏

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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i read the other day that the ingame cinematic of we firing the laser beam was deleted

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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nzoth will die cuz they have no idea what to do with him

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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i don't know if its true or if it means something

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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lol why would the broadcast datamining be wrong nwolf

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it might mean something different, sure

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but it's not going to be fake

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and non existent in 8.3

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Would've been happy with having people with the Eye help N'zoth get in the dagger and people who fight N'zoth laser beam him

Bold of you to assume blizzard actually cares about the player choice stuff

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Oof

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:53 PM

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i have that stupid thing in my face still

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since day 1

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on my main

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im so fucking stupid

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:54 PM

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If you want the Eye but not to have it on your character, take a trip to the barber shop!

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Get a haircut while at it

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:55 PM

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It resets every time you change instances

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Yeah

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Best method is to have the Headless Horseman’s Hearthstone on hand

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And just tap it for a moment whenever you want your helm back

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I'm too proud to do that, blizzard will have to take it from my dead body

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I wish I had that

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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The winter one also works

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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im not going to cleanse it either

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I wish I had that too

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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As does the moonfang toy from DMF

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I made my new account in April this year

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Well, luckily it’s almost December and the hearthstone is free

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Boosted my character, got her to level cap then moved out

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So now I need to buy a PC

pulsar iris Nov 11, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i'm glad i paid for early access to hearthstone battlegrounds

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that shit is awesome

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needs a bit more variety, but it is so damn good

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 4:47 PM

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murloc i like adventures more

restive pasture Nov 11, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I have a question! So we all know pandaren and allied race DK's are coming but I was wondering if any matching undead skin textures/colors have been found in the files, you know the optional ones you can pick when you are creating DK's?

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:11 PM

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noly glowing eyes no new skin colours

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I thought time was the same in shadowlands because it’s just on the other side it isn’t a whole new place 🤔 but then again we don’t really know

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what

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as far as i know the only place time works differently is alternate draenor

hasty tendon Nov 11, 2019, 5:21 PM

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The twisting Nether works plenty differently as well.

25 years for us was 1000 for Turalyon.
That's 40 times slower.

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:23 PM

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considering the shadowlands connects to every corner of the living universe, if we believe that every planet in our universe exists within the same time frame, it should be fairly simple why the shadowlands have the same passage of time as the living world, the shadowlands are a mirror world, and considering you're dead you don't really care about time

restive pasture Nov 11, 2019, 5:23 PM

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That's a shame :( thanks @tropic trail

hasty tendon Nov 11, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I'm not taking a stance on whether or not time works differently in the Shadowlands.
We just flat out don't know enough about it to warrant a statement about it either way.

I'm just responding to your only knowing that time works differently in Alternate Draenor.
It's very different in the Twisting Nether

And honestly, time seems to work the exact same on AU Draenor as it does in our reality, given that Grommash is an old man there once we stop going back in time to visit it.

harsh wedge Nov 11, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Wasn't there a quest in the dk legion order hall with the guy that gave you your mount before, where he stated that just a few days passed for him in the shadowlands, but years for us ?

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:27 PM

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maybe when sylvanas opened a portal to the shadowlands it linked our time to theirs

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Yes aenyth

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There was

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Essentially what we know is time works strangely in the shadowlands

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It is not consistent

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:31 PM

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though the inhabitants of the shadowlands don't strike me as people who care about knowing what time it is, their view of time could be askew

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Except for the quest we know from legion

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Which was written when they were already planning shadowlands

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There is ingame evidence from recent content that tells us that time there works differently

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:34 PM

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well they could just retcon it, we never know

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 5:35 PM

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It just happened

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They made a point if bringing up Odyn and his eye, why would the same writers not include the other quests from the same expac?

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There’s no guarantee saying time will pass differently

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I’m just saying we know it can

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 5:37 PM

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it is a place of infinite realms

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 6:00 PM

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yeah i mean if you're dead it could be a year but to you it felt like 40 idk we will see lol

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:10 PM

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anyway , we can assume that the soul powered engine of the Legion worked with Anima

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which means the fel tendrils around legion's camp are Fel corrupted anima streams

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which may have a signification on " how does the maching of death broke "

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:14 PM

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What

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No we can’t

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Anima isn’t made from demons

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Demons don’t go to the shadowlands

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Anima is unique to the shadowlands

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The soul engine thing with Argus has nothing to do with the shadowlands

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He isn’t tied to death working

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That wouldn’t make sense

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Like - did death not work before sargeras used him?

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No

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Sargeras used Argus to make demons return from the twisting nether faster

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But that has nothing to do with death being broken or with the shadowlands

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:22 PM

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mrpeach774, you've been wrong before, and you are right now, cause you didn't read my post.

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Yes, demons do not go to the shadowlands, but during legion, we have witness countless time demon threatening to use OUR soul ( mortal souls ) to power their machines

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so, our anima

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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i mean,even IRL its been proven you dont have to use "coal" as fuel

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you can even use lemons as fuel

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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No

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That’s souls

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Anima isn’t souls

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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....

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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anima = real life karma

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Anima is the power your soul carries when judged within the shadowlands based on your actions

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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think of it that way

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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It is essentially karma

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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this conversation sounds like that one spongebob meme

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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^

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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with the wallet

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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There is an Azerite essence called " anima of life and death "

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Yeah because anima is a word

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That means things

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It doesn’t mean the anima thing like in shadowlands

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:24 PM

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anima is not just limited to the shadowlands, and we know little about it.

#

there was anima used also in the ToT

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it's maybe the same thing

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so I think my interrogation is legitimate

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 6:24 PM

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maybe yes

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but not necessarily

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and i highly doubt it

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:25 PM

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i may not be a lore buff,but anima is present in the shadowlands,and it comes from its denizens

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the denizens(excluding natives)

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are exclusively souls

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:25 PM

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You said “we can assume”

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We can not

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It’s possible

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But to say we can assume is wrong

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i should have said " can we assume " but you are always playing on words like this blizzcon art with the lich king anyway, no point arguing with you

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Well the art book was fake

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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@dry knot I agree, and @strange falcon, exactly, and the BL use souls to fuel their power

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Someone shopped the real image on top

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Which was weird

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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I was talking about the Bolvar Art

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were you were wrong.

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Yeah the Bolvar art was real

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But the catalog wasn’t

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

#

....

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Someone shopped the real image on a fake version of the catalog

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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is this something like brack's non-apology

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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It’s why it seemed weird

austere gazelle Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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this guy is terrible

dry knot Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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keep this ptr relevant pls

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Dude I literally said as much at the time

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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"yeah,it was real,but i'm not going to admit i was wrong" :p

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peach my boi

tropic trail Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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you are all wrong

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

I was wrong

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I’ve said as much

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But the reason I didn’t believe it was because it looked photoshopped which it technically was

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At least partially

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Eyes threw me off too

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It turned out to be real

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And I was wrong

strange falcon Nov 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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ion even joked with "now do the eyes make sense"

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khadgarface

tranquil steeple Nov 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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"real actual art was photoshopped onto something else to make that other thing fake"

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that's the catalog

dense plover Nov 11, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Yes

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That was part of what tripped me up

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Until that webpage with the art was found

plain vigil Nov 11, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Haha peach even when the webpage was datamined you were still (very understandably) outspokenly doubtful

candid coral Nov 11, 2019, 7:38 PM

#

Is it possible to make a mage portal for you alts to use somehow?

novel zodiac Nov 11, 2019, 7:39 PM

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nope

night swift Nov 11, 2019, 7:56 PM

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No

ionic terrace Nov 11, 2019, 10:30 PM

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👀

📎 unknown.png

storm marsh Nov 11, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Oh my God, I just read something. It would be super dope if Anduin meets TIFFIN in shadowlands

uncut vault Nov 11, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I dearly wish for a break from cinematics of Anduin and Jaina being sad, but don’t expect a break from either in Shadowlands

storm marsh Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 PM

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When you think about it, all of the story should be in shadowlands (unlike bfa having cinematic locations in durotar, theramore, mulgore, sw, etc.)

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If they continue making bunch of cinematics and CGI cinematics, I hope those CGIs will show Shadowlands

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The zones are beautiful

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Also the comment on Queen Tiffin, I still find it interesting that her tombstone in SW contains actual remains of her

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A bit creepy tho

📎 WoWScrnShot_111119_234321.jpg

tropic trail Nov 12, 2019, 12:37 AM

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AHH im 100% doing Nzoth lol

mighty wolf Nov 12, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Why will Anduin and Jaina be in shadowlands? 🤔

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Because alliance need more story for these two, since BfA wasn't enough for them /s

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It's not like Velen didn't say a single word for whole BfA...

ivory girder Nov 12, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Light, be with you.

There you go, I wrote Velen's script for BFA, Shadowlands and 10.0

ivory meadow Nov 12, 2019, 7:50 AM

#

Velen had his moment during Legion

#

Considering Jaina was literally absent from the last 2 Xpacs and Anduin has kind of just started a new phase of his character arc with 7.2 and then into BfA i'm not surprised

tropic trail Nov 12, 2019, 10:25 AM

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8.3 ptr mailboxes have 100 slots and 15 sec refresh

tropic trail Nov 12, 2019, 11:16 AM

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just incredible what they can do in 2020

storm marsh Nov 12, 2019, 1:25 PM

#

Guys, will covenants have mission tables?

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

let's be honest

#

probably yes

uncut lintel Nov 12, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

Just..give me owl bois

storm marsh Nov 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

Venthyr.

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

but, if you've seen the interview preach did, they said shadowlands is super early in development

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 3:55 PM

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i doubt any of the races we meet in SL will become playable... we have enough races already, and some of them are such trash that literally nobody plays them (i'm looking at you, Kul'tirans)

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:04 PM

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we dont have enough races already

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the first thing i asked for when i saw bfa was for kul tirans to be playable

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lol

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

however there is still a slot for ONE more Allied Race under Vulpera

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no idea what it could be (If it is even going to be anything, because they can make the list shorter)

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:08 PM

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in the recruiting hall in both cities

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the banners are asymmetrical

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so one allied race is very likely to come

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also saying that nobody plays kultirans is very uninformed

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:09 PM

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it's gonna be something for Undead and doggos

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:09 PM

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id argue both gnomes and mechagnomes combined dont get playtime

#

plus kultirans have druid forms going for them

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which attracted a lot

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Kul'tirans as druids can have multiple forms, in opposite to their overall lack of form

#

hehe

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

#

just because blizzard reused that lazy layout for allied races selection, doesnt mean they WILL make another set

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

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i hate to say it

#

but the next AR that makes most sense

#

are

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

#

i would like them to. i think they will. but that is not parameter

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

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drums

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

#

🤔

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

Another elves

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

🤔

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

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booeing in the crowd

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

vampire elves

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

vampire elves if anything

#

are shadowlands AR

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

not san'layn

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

:P

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

yes

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

i'd say the Undead Elves from Darshore for Horde

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

those

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

and Nelf Worgens for Ally

#

i have no other idea what would fit these two

#

and made sense at the same time

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

there is such a great opposition against especially the second one

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

didn't they say allied races were a BFA thing?

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

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people would puke

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

they didnt

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

oh ok

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

they said ARs would be continued where it makes sense

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

right

#

mb

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

they are a bfa feature,but they have confirmed many times "they could come later" just as normal races dont just stop

#

with bfa

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

the issue with SL ARs

#

would be the faction divide

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since they are allied with everyone

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

not like they care

#

cough nightborne

#

cough other examples

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

any more abbreviations please? xD

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

Nightborne had much development with Belves

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

SL?

#

oh shadowlands

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

both HM and Lightforged were helped by both sides

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

and Tyrande was a bitch (as always)

strange falcon Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

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but they joined one

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

f*cking hell guys 😄

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

yeah because they wanted to be close to the ones of their same species

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

would you join someone who spits on you?

#

i doubt it

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

well depends

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

i'd spit back on them

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

did i ask for them to spit like in a kinky way?

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

lol

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

Nightborne just chose the better side, because they didn't want Suramar to get invaded by fat humans on horses

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

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oy what is the problem with fat human

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

They're a joke xD

#

like mechagnomes

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

i wanted skinny ones tho

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

2 big failures

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

so you're saying i'm a joke because i'm a fat human? Kappa

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

style-wise, maybe Mauldrak, but racial ability wise

#

holy damn

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

the last AR they add must be something good

#

ot at least

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should be

#

racials on ally don't matter

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

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lol why

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

everyone plays Void Elves anyway

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

dude

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

oof

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

mechagnome racials are off the chain

#

legit

#

so much dps

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

my first AR leveled to cap was actually a velf coughs

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

everyone i know is gonna race change to mechagnome because of the racials

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myself included

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

ew race change

#

why not level an alt

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

heard the same about Kul'tirans

#

and guess what

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

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because of the gear jrkb

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

nobody actually did it

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

you can get gear

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

well cuz their racials actually turned out to be shit

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

and you expect MGnomes to be different?

#

there are still 2 months for the patch to get released

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

well yeah, but it's gonna take forever for BiS, jrkb

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

so expect changes

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

no changes announced YET

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

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oh you're one of those

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

DI Dwarves racials also got nerfed

#

after like what? a month?

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

DI are sick

#

love them flaming beards

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

yeah, i must admit they are the only alliance AR i got to 120, they're a nice AR

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

there are gonna be patch notes for 8.3 once it releases, right?

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

but their racials got nerfed, even if they weren't THAT powerful

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

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tfw i dont even know what the racials do

dry knot Nov 12, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

so if the notes say anything about racial changes to MG, i'm not gonna race change

#

obvs

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

so

#

you have dots

#

and poisons on you

#

racials removes all of them

#

and turns them into main stat

pulsar iris Nov 12, 2019, 4:21 PM

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oh shit

cyan prairie Nov 12, 2019, 4:21 PM

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and the amount of it was pretty good