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green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:45 AM

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your line there that you drew isnt true, they were all shown at blizzcon

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Ok

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Cool

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Still doesn’t make that legit

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Glad you said it 6 times

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Is your dick big enough?

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🙄

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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so you dont have a line to draw for the water level thing either and your point you made about it being fake because it is too different from past maps is invalid

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Ok

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Cool

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Keep saying that

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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conceding im right there?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I already say ok

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I’m not going to concede anything

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The whole fuck8ng concept of the expansion is nonsense

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The two leaks aren’t even consistent with each other

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

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okay then those maps i showed are precedence of them using that format style and the water levels

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for zone layout maps

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they arent consistent with eachother yet they were both shown in the same context of a blizzcon showing

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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No

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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meaning they dont need to be entirely consistent to be real

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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The two shadowlands expansions

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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let's forget that the Shadow land logo is just a recolored legion

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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The two leaks

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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it isnt makore

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Do you have any reading comprehension?

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At all?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:47 AM

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what did I say that showed I didnt peach

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/a/ab/LegionLogo_lessglow.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20150807024750

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📎 unknown.png

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makore?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I’m saying the shadowlands leaks are bullshit - even if the map is in style, there are two different shadowlands maps, two different leaks, neither of them are the same

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My problem with that logo comes from the L being illegible

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:48 AM

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wheres this second shadowlands map

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Uh

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Really?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:48 AM

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which L is illegible

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wait

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actually

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funnily enough

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thanks makore

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for bringing up legion

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cause that fucking debunks peaches last point

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the L in legion on the logo is literally the same

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Did you just read yourself in that last part

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:49 AM

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AND

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BEFORE

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YOU SAY

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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This one

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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that means theyre copied and pasted

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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https://wallpaperfx.com/uploads/wallpapers/2010/09/14/2411/preview_wow-cataclysm-logo.jpeg

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the L

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is the same here too

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for cata

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so that means they just use the same L

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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No it isn’t

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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..

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:50 AM

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It’s legible there

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The shadowlands one is black on black

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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📎 unknown.png

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Because there’s like, a tentacle behind it or something

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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@dense plover @zealous basalt have a happy bird to cheer you up for having to deal with this BS CongaBirb

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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The colors overlap in the shadow lands one

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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📎 unknown.png

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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That is a bad color scheme

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Dude

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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its also foreshortened

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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The L in world

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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because of the angle of the picture

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Not shadowlands

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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The World of Warcraft words

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:51 AM

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oh thats an even worse point my bad

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i thought you meant the foreshortened bottom lettering

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Ya know what, fuck it

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Are black and due the color of the background it makes worse to read

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Blocked

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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LOL

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let me respond to him

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his point is

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that the L

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in world

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is blocked by the design

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Much better

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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... You are either someone that left school

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Or someone that doesn't know about art work

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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I don’t need to read the rants of someone who wants a leak to be true so bad they will overlook any and all inconsistencies

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Making the colors overlap like that is a verh

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Bad choice

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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You clearly already believe it’s real, so no one can change your mind

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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I don’t get why he was being so confrontational the whole time blobhyperthink

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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You have decided what you want to believe, and I’m never going to agree

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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It's like the asmongold fans

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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So I’m done talking to you about this

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Or someone that follows a massive trend

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:53 AM

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you couldnt handle being constantly wrong

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I get that

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Dude, fuck asmongold. He is a literal neckbeard who lives in an attic he has made a dumpster

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Shh

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Peach

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I wouldnt want to be proven wrong in such quick succession like you just were

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who would>?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Even if you dislike asmln

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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thats why I usually dont make bad points

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Why shush? I don’t have to read anything they say, because blocking hides their messages

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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so that people cant call me out on making such bad takes

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I don't think it should be okay to say that in a discord with word rulings

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Oh lawd he’s trying to insult you after a block. It’s like screaming into the void khadgarface

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Just how you referred on asmongold

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:55 AM

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I'm literally just talking about the convo we're having Jlucks

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Asmongold isn’t here - I’m not insulting him. I’m commenting on how I dislike the personality. It’s like shitting on an actor - it’s not the same as insulting someone to their face

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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which is more pathetic, blocking someone trying to have a convo and then whining with your ears closed like a baby, or the person just having the convo

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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But isn't he just some character made by a person?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Jlucks, you should probably block him too - if he’s insulting me, he’ll probably start insulting other people too

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I dont know what point in my life I would have to be at where I would feel the need to block someone who is literally just trying to discuss a leak for a video game expansion

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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He is stroking himself saying how he defeated you and bla bla bla

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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🤷 You’re trying to make a point but your entire argument is littered with insults and complete condescending tone. No one will want to listen to you if you act that way and then no one will ever WANT to believe you regardless of what you are saying is true

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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A monologue

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Jlucks do you wanna make a money bet at which one of us made a ad hom first or

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Yeah I’m just gonna head out, I was just enjoying the show blobcorn

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Quite sad Emu missed this

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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the funny thing is I wasnt even on the original point anymore

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he conceded I was right on the very first comment i made

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Oh I doubt the guy is gonna leave. I’m sure emu will be able to see everything

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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He is free to stay after all

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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my original point was that he had no basis in denying its fake by what they look like compared to past maps

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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I can see more boxes. Is he still stroking his own ego?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Ye

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Ofc

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Heh, well this was entertaining, you all have a good night

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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I am surprised

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How far can your own... Believal?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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are we going to pretend you're not opening each of my messages diligently mrpeach 🙂

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Faith?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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i know you're reading this rn

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you clicked this box too

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this one as well

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why are you reading these stop

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Omg his ego is relentless. Alright bye ❤

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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bye. btw whyd you click this box too mr peach

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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4 messages, XD

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Make that 6

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But ye

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How far things can go when you have faith

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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notice he got quiet cause he didnt know what to say in response cause he had a hard time thinking how he was gonna pretend he didnt read each message

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Enough to blindly believe this kind of stuff

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I guess

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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i'm not saying believe it

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when did I ever

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I never follow leaks because one

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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say to believe it

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i'm not saying its true

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Honestly I think it’s more a result of having cognitive dissonance

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Most of the things they say are things already on game

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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im saying mrpeach made bad points as to why it's 100% false

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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And two

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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He wants to believe it’s real so bad that he is willing to ignore anything and everything about it

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I never once said it was real

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I know Lore enough to say bs on points

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Oshit honk

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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^^^

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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You looked better with that pfc

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Thanks honk, you got my back even when rude people try to insult me XD

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I dislike honk alliance bias

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I rotate my pics.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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lol you literally did nothing but insult me to avoid responding to my points

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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But when he is into stuff

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He stuff

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Or she

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I’d be Horde it they didn’t ruin Kael’thas.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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btw never said the leak was real

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just said mrpeach made terrible points

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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That’s fair tbh. They made kaelthas a 1 dimensional character

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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... Why did they ruin Kael again

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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SPEAKING OF TERRIBLE POINTS

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honker!

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Hard to tell an in-depth rts style story in an mmo

velvet wind Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I’m back and I like Lor’themar a lot. Alright back to not being here

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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what were the 2nd to last and last bosses for the Dragon Soul raid?

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anyone remember?

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end boss for dragon soul anyone?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Ok I finally looked

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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and 2nd to last?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Really? Deathwing is your go to?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:03 AM

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lol yeah sure

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you just look right when i ask a question huh

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ahahahahah

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Eh

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Lol dude. Deathwing, a massive dragon is not the same as a human adult

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I’ll concede that one. But riddle me Anduin and Sylvanas.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Nah honk

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We didn't really fight him twice

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It is weird actually

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Honestly honk, don’t bother - dude wants it to be real, so he doesn’t care

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Ah, true.

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Let me respond to his attempt:

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Do you guys

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412190473042657280/625437133741621259/ijXuu7DyzyPXhVnf.mp4

▶ Play video

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Remember the Battle for Azeroth leak?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Yes, it was very vague

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No details

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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There was still one thing I would have liked from it

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Dragon isles

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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All the legit leaks are extremely basic, because the more details you give, the more likely you are to be caught

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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There is one way to call bs on leak

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They never give class changes

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Dragon isles has been likely from the start tbh - wrathion hints, old god stuff - infinite dragon flight, and island expac

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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lol again you guys just concede my points and go back to ad homs

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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The class changes were supposed to happen tbh

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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The most glaring issue with the “leak” is the fact that it has two different end bosses for the Alliance and Horde.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:06 AM

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next you'll go onto projecting that i'm doing nothing but ad homs

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lol honkerton thats sarcasm right

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I remember thinking about that for Battle

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:07 AM

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We aren’t even talking to you right now dude

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:07 AM

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But then Blizz came and said "All bosses for all sides"

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:07 AM

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he literally is talking to me

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hahaha

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Before you say Dazar’alor, Jaina was the end boss for both sides.

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Yeah they specifically said they don’t want to do different end bosses didn’t they?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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what line is there that isnt arbitrary between there being a faction line for a middle boss and a faction line for an end boss

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Riddle me this: how do you suppose Blizzard would balance a world first race with two entirely different end bosses?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Rekt

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Like, wasn’t that a specific point they made at blizzcon?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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how do they balance a world first race

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with 2 middle bosses

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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...

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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being different.

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..

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..

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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...The two- what

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:08 AM

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By having them being defeated by both sides?

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That's what they did with Battle

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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how do you balance

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a raid

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with a boss

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being different

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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This is big brained.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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for both factions

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you asked the same question i am

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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You can't answer a question with another

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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i'm asking you

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Either answer his question first

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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my point is the answer to my question is the same as the answer to yours

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Tell me where they had a raid with two entirely different bosses?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Just to waste resources

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Ion would be so triggered right now

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:10 AM

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That is to say, two entirely different bosses that both sides had to beat at the same time.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:10 AM

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I have your answer

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Can I answer?

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Battle of Dazar’alor had two entirely different bosses, with the same mechanics. That’s the leaks idea as well

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:10 AM

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battle of dazaralor ???

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I’m not saying it’s a correct leak, but that isn’t something that counts it out

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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EXACTLY

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PORTER

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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LOL

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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...How would Anduin and Sylvanas have the same mechanics?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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THATS WHAT IM SAYING THIS ENTIRE TIME

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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You didn't know that

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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they think im like

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trying to say

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the leak

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is 100% real

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Also, the leak says nothing about having the same mechanics.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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but im just saying that their points dont make it 100% not real confirmed

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Fuck, Porter, you had to feed this monkey.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Damn it gnome

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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feed me by helping my point?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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You had one job

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It's like

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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is it a good sign for you when you see good points as being equivalent to feeding a monkey

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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The top 10 anime betrayals here

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:12 AM

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You’re telling me a Dark Ranger and a Priest would have the same mechanics? @uncut vault

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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You didn't know what Porter said, or understand what it means

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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lol I do

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they have the same mechanics

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Then explain what he said

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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just did

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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They being who

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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its not that difficult

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to understand

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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They made a gnome tinker and Bwonsamdi use the same abilities

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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both the end game leak boss and the bosses in dazar

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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In the grong fight

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It’s not that far fetched

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:13 AM

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is that too complex for you makore

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Those were both gorilla fights.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:14 AM

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give makore a second

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he doesnt even understand what is being said

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I'm trying to remember which abilities Porter is making mention off

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Ok that’s just rude

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:15 AM

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No, nothing rings a bell

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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<@&299347348847329281> this guy is insulting people

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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@uncut vault

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What abilities?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Like, he called makore dumb, but didn’t say it

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It’s very rude

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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peach you literally just said what I just said

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are you seriously this childish

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:17 AM

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To be fair, TJ, you don’t even believe the leak but are in here baiting people.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:17 AM

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i'm not saying i dont believe in it or believe in it

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im saying you have no credible evidence to 100% disprove it

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:17 AM

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You said earlier you didn’t believe it

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:17 AM

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no peach

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no i didnt.

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peach lets say i have a coin in my hand

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im gonna tell you theres a nickle

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in my hand

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do you believe me?

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do you have proof that i dont have one in my hand?

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those are 2 distinct questions

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:18 AM

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You started off immediately by being a dick so

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green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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calling your points terrible is being a dick?

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honk do you wanna stake this claim that you've been totally civilized and nice

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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You aren’t either

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Nah

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Wow seriously?

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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@zealous basalt bwonsamdi summoning a spirit to empower undead grong is equivalent to gnomes air-dropping a mech to zap grong into being angrier

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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You’re being extremely aggressive

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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if they can do that, they can do anything

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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It’s like you guys WANT to push each other

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:19 AM

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think

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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honk you literally called me a monkey 5 minutes ago ahahaha

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and ur pulling the "ur not being nice" card

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Because you are acting like one.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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But how would that apply to Sylv and And

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Y’all just stop

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Anduin and Sylvanas could easily mirror shadow and light abilities, Sylvanas and Anduin are both mainly ranged, with some melee potential, with a sidekick who uses both melee and ranged with a trenchcoat

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:21 AM

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no porter see theyve literally never done that exact situation before so it could never happen

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i mean thats just logic

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hey just to confirm from the mods

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I don’t see them doing that on an end boss, sorry.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:21 AM

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you're warning honk and peach right

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Hmm, I suppose that is valid...

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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for disrepect

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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How about you focus on improving your behaviour?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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is that a no then?

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Focus on yourself rather than other people

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I'm just seeing where the line is drawn

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can I call people monkeys without getting a warning?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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#welcome-rules and the rules

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Lol

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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I’ll accept a warning, but quit acting like you’re an angel sent down from on high, TJ.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:24 AM

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lol i'd love to see where i even claimed to be close to that

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I only defended myself from you guys claiming I should be punished for doing just as much as those around me

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thats not me calling myself an angel

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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So do you want to drop this subject or do you want to continue

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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All I see is someone who’s stirring the pot for the sake of it.

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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i wonder how long the warcampaign will be on Tuesday and if we are going to be able to do all of it that day..

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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I give it a time gate

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:25 AM

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stirring the pot? just so we're clear making up lies about what i've said about myself isnt stirring the pot, correct

#

?

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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@green laurel 👀

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Nah, cutscene Tuesday

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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i hope there is no timegate but probably going to happen.. i think this xpac has been just rep gated ?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Nah

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

#

Muffinus tweeted out asking for live-streams to see reactions

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Time gate as wel-

#

O

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

#

wait what?

#

lol

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

#

What a tease

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

#

i cant wait to be on all day on Tuesday

#

AHHH

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/502028222830215189/625517832439988233/Screenshot_20190922-222425_Twitter.jpg

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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.... I have school that day

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

See?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

Will servers be down?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

No time gate

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Or will it be a quick patching?

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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yes Makore

#

it says until 3 PM PDT

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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wait I wanna get a recording of your reaction peach nooo

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

but probably earlier

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as always

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

just in case

#

theres that chance

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

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How about leave me alone

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Please

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:27 AM

#

that the end of that cinematic is like "SYLVANAS IS ATTACKING STORMWIND!"

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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I’m making a formal request

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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We all agree she gon do Dat eitherway

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

#

^

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Let it be a bait

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

#

^^

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

#

I said she was gonna do that like 2 months ago

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Like this one

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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i hope doggo gets baited 🙂

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

#

📎 images_-_2019-09-22T232442.357.jpeg

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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baitfishandlies

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:28 AM

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its gonna be jaina though

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:29 AM

#

Peech had a good theory and got in an argument with Tilted I think

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About how would it go

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And that it won't be bad if Syl is baited baiting the Alliance

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:29 AM

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it would make sense for jaina to be at thunder cause shes like already infatuated with that plot

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I just hope Sylvanas’ 7D chess comes to an end and Calia or someone else ruins it all.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

#

@tropic trail

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At 3 is where I go to classes

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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@zealous basalt language.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Oh

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I hope calia is used as a tipping point for breaking down the faction walls of races

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I want referring to forfe

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

#

alliance undead

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

#

I was cursing my luck

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Do it in a more PG fashion or something

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Okay

#

clears throat

#

By thrall balls

rotund sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Like “dratheck”

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

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lol

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

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theres so many little foreshadows now for different plot explanations for faction barriers being done away with

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

#

....

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NOOOO

#

I REALIZED I WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY WOW THAT DAY

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:31 AM

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i just want the war to end on Tuesday

#

why?

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

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not like a faction removal just race barriers being removed y'know

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

#

I LEFT MY LAPTOP CHARGER IN MY HOMETOWN

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

#

rip

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

#

📎 unnamed_1.gif

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

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I think the war will be half/unoficially over at the end of the campaign

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

#

at least you can check YT or streams :p

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:33 AM

#

tears

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:33 AM

#

the horde rebellion and the alliance will make a semi treaty in some fashion but that will mean virtually nothing when sylv attacks stormwind anyway

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:33 AM

#

It won't be the same without my 430 monk

#

Stat optimized

#

That cost me 4 weeks to optimize

#

And almost made me quit wow

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:34 AM

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oh forgot about the rebellion..

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:34 AM

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how?! thats like the entire thing thats gonna be happening tuesday

#

thats the whole subplot

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:34 AM

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lol

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:34 AM

#

the last cinematic we got was that

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:34 AM

#

too focused on wanting sylvanas to die 🙂

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:35 AM

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last cinematic for the war campaign

#

i mean

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:35 AM

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She not gonna dke

#

Die

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:35 AM

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if the leak is real then she will die

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:35 AM

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she is dead already 🙂

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:35 AM

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she'll probs die no matter what at this rate

#

alliance have complained enough

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Killing a character is bad writing.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:36 AM

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lol

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:36 AM

#

Better have them kill Nathanos in front of her

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:36 AM

#

I still wonder if we’re getting a CGI cinematic soon or not.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:36 AM

#

INB4 IT'S AN INGAME CINEMATIC OF 7 MINUTES

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

doesnt the leak say tyrande literally decapitates nathanos

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

yes

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Gotta finish off Sadfang’s story.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

that would be sick the leak can be fake just let that be true

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

i wish that would actually happen lol

#

Saurfang will probably die

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:37 AM

#

im horde but nathanos is a loser

#

i wanna see him get chopped

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:38 AM

#

I’d rather see Nathanos suffer the same fate as the orc Malfurion vined up.

#

Or should I say

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Fertilizer.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:38 AM

#

What about the elf malfurion decapitated

#

The one that said "I will kill Malfurion"

#

"Malfurion is all. Mine"

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And then

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rekt

#

That was very cringe to read tbh

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

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lol thats great

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

#

Well

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

#

I dislike petty characters

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

#

We know he’s a dark ranger now as cringe as that is.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Mostly when they can't even scratch them

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:39 AM

#

Tbh, I feel like Lorash is some Blizzard employee’s fan fic character.

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 4:40 AM

#

Nathanos needs to get squished 🙂

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:40 AM

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A cringe edgyness

#

Pst

#

Self insert

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:40 AM

#

They literally rewrote High/Blood Elf lifespans just for him to have a reason to hate the Night Elves.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:40 AM

#

Ye

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

huh whats that

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

I disliked that part of Elegy

#

Uh

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

Also

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

A good war*

#

It was really different

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

he just doesnt like them cause they live a long time?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

Nah

#

High elves have short life spans compared to highborne

#

But this elf

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

That one dark ranger who is apparently over 3000 years old and knew Shandris personally during the Troll Wars, despite Night Elves having not been in the Troll Wars.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

Mutated from Highborne all the way to Blood elf

#

Ye

#

It's cringe fest

#

And a massive lore break

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:42 AM

#

Like, it’s like Blizzard’s writers don’t even know their lore anymore.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:42 AM

#

I hope it's like Golden giving Genn a tail

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And just a fuck up from their part

#

I was like

#

"Golden what the fuck have you done"

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I’m fine with worgen getting tails. Whatever. That’s not a big lore break like completely redoing blood elf life spans.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:43 AM

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You kno

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:43 AM

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How did high elves have several kings sincs Quel’thalas’ founding if they live that long?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:43 AM

#

I don't think it's a massive redoing

#

It's more like

#

A character thing I hope

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Like, even in Warhammer

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

#

If not it means high elves are stupid to be killed

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

#

The guy who taught humans magic is still alive lmao

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

#

Kek

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

#

Same thing in WoW

#

Tyrande and Malfurion are like

#

Ancient.

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

#

they might have all just gotten killed?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

#

And then there is this dude

#

That knew them from the beginning

#

Participated in the troll wars

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

#

or maybe the stress of their job lowered their lifespan 🙂

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

#

In the old lore, high elves lived roughly 600 years. Monarches lived longer.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:45 AM

#

I still say it Honk

#

I think it's just a unique case

#

He probably have lived all the way there somehow doing hax

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Its not unique, when the dark ranger is old as fuck too.

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

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It's like a moonguard character

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

#

Lol

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

#

which char is this ur talking about?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

#

I mean the dark ranger

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

#

Lorash and the dark ranger Shandris and Co kill in the war campaign.

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 4:47 AM

#

kinda funny that both of the characters with that weird past are now Horde, and undead

#

or, were, in the case of areiel

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:47 AM

#

Because Blizzard is fishing for reasons for them to hate night elves.

#

Let’s just forget this:

#

📎 image0.png

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:47 AM

#

Ye

#

Probably two writers that hate elves

#

Just like I do

#

But my reason has foundations

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:48 AM

#

Tyrande sacrifices herself to save Kael’thas people

#

”GRRRRRR NIGHT ELVES.”

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:48 AM

#

my reason is because they cant seem to get over a little burnt tree

#

like i mean cmon

#

get over it

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:49 AM

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That was their home

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:49 AM

#

Makore

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:49 AM

#

what???

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 4:49 AM

#

baitfishandlies

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:49 AM

#

Shhh

#

I know

#

My reason to hate elvenkin ks

#

Because they all fell for a female charm

#

And that fucked Azeroth

#

I would say something

#

But it's really un appropriated

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:50 AM

#

inappropriate ?

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:50 AM

#

That

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 4:51 AM

#

azeroth got split wide open you might say

#

right in its deep.........holm..

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 4:56 AM

#

Nah

green laurel Sep 23, 2019, 5:00 AM

#

stay bitter

#

khadgarface

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

#

📎 Screenshot_20190922-222425_Twitter.jpg

meager zodiac Sep 23, 2019, 5:57 AM

#

when they are all bad he turns off the stream

#

so its like a 5 minute stream

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 7:16 AM

#

Oh boy so many messages, did I missed something ? And I got pinged? triggerd AND a live stream on Tuesday???? Ok where are my excited emotes

#

excitedgif

night swift Sep 23, 2019, 7:17 AM

#

we needed lore peeps

#

I think the chaos ended though

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 7:32 AM

#

No theres no livestream on tuesday

#

Hes asking people to livestream their reactions to 8.2.5

#

Which insinuates no timegating

limber mural Sep 23, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

insinuates a lot tbh

#

hopefully account wide essences. -_-

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 7:43 AM

#

oh I see. maaaan

#

and I thought they gonna drop the 8.3 bomb if there would be an live stream

uncut vault Sep 23, 2019, 7:46 AM

#

Account wise essences would have been on the PTR

#

Game mechanics changes weren’t encrypted

limber mural Sep 23, 2019, 7:55 AM

#

welp i guess that's bfa in the grave then

#

oh well

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 7:56 AM

#

how in any way does it insinuate account wide essences? 😛

#

hes the story guy

limber mural Sep 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

#

i was joking.

#

because whoever came up with character-bound essences in the first place needs removing from development

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

#

ah

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 9:40 AM

#

I just hate that Conflict and Strife is Bis and it’s forcing me to do arenas to be good in pve content

#

Account wide essences for that shit needs to be a thing but we will never see that on the ptr, wouldn’t be surprised if 9.0 scraps the essence system lol

round lake Sep 23, 2019, 9:46 AM

#

are you pushing CE content?

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 10:20 AM

#

So I took that format from reddit and played Bingo

📎 myBingo.jpg

inner copper Sep 23, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

Wdym new warchief

vernal juniper Sep 23, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

so nothing spoilerd since yesterday?

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 10:55 AM

#

why would anything spoiler now

#

patch isn't out

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 11:55 AM

#

We should get all information tomorrow afternoon

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 12:45 PM

#

Wednesday for us eu heads

flint meteor Sep 23, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

man i feel like the war campaign ending will be huge deal

#

murloc

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

It’s probably going to explicitly tie in our current story to 8.3 and pave the way for 9.0

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:08 PM

#

I take everything if its not going to be "Sylvanas working for Nzoth" bullcrap

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

looking forward to the new stuff in general

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

Again, I could see them going the route of sylvanas accidentally working for Nzoth

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

patch notes imply more than just war effort but i guess that might just be the wrathion questline

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

Like, thinking she was doing the right thing but being duped

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

yea thats what I could see too peach

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

I’m okay with that because it would explain some of her less rational actions

#

I’m hoping Nzoth is the one who tricked Voljin into choosing her

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

yea, shes being manipulated by Nzoth would at least be logical

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

And that this plot goes all the way back to legion

#

I really want them to save the whole master of bwonsamdi storyline for a separate expac

#

I want to head towards full black empire and then follow it up with that

#

Or like, something unpredictable

#

I would love an out of left field expac for 10.0

#

Like MoP

#

When are the scheduled maintenance times for tomorrow?

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:17 PM

#

I think shes definitely not under the influence of nzoth

#

But rather fighting a shadow war with him

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:17 PM

#

I see it more as she thinks she is fighting him but he is playing her

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:17 PM

#

Maybe yeh

#

That'd make sense

#

I'm not sure nzoth will be involved in war campaign conclusion tho

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:18 PM

#

Like, Nzoth picked her using Voljin - he picked her because he knew she would do certain things that would lead to BfA and the dagger being rediscovered

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:18 PM

#

Prolly the wrathion questline is the only void stuff well get but it'll only be corruption, nzoth still nowhere to be seen

#

I think hes AWOL till 9.0

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:19 PM

#

Then he used the dagger to give her a vision, showing her his plan but the plan he showed is actually a lie that gets her to act in a way that results in him being freed and the horde and alliance being in shambles

#

Which I hope ends up being her firing the cannon at stormwind or west fall, while we do that, Nzoth frees or consumes yogg and or Cthun

#

Something something wrathion dragon isles

#

I also expect us to not actually fight Nzoth

#

Or if we do, I hope we lose

#

We need to be knocked down a peg

#

And Nzoth needs to be a serious threat

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:21 PM

#

so how is orgrimmar involved

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:22 PM

#

Horde and alliance assault oggrimar to stop sylvanas after being tricked into defending thunder bluff

#

But while they do that, she fires the cannon

#

Or vice versa maybe

#

They go to attack sylvanas and stop her, she goes to thunder bluff - or tricks the horde and alliance into going there, then fires the cannon

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

and how was the cannon referenced again

#

i missed where that theory came from

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

They said it was going to be used

#

In an interview

#

And it’s currently pointed at stormwind

#

And that would be cinematic af

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

recently?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

Uh unsure

#

Don’t remember how old the interview is

#

I’m just basing my guesses off of the limited bits they’ve said

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:25 PM

#

that interview was from blizzcon last year

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:25 PM

#

i'm only willing to guess something orgrimmar and something necklace

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:25 PM

#

And Im not sure if that was just a joke or if it was actually seriously

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

Well I expect thunder bluff to be relevant at some point

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

also eitrigg

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

Probably in the war campaign

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

not sure how that fits in yet

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

I’m hoping they don’t kill Saurfang tho

#

That would be a total waste of his character development

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

I hope they kill him off

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

I want thrall dead

#

I’m sick of thrall

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

well thats something I can take too

#

I hate Thrall since ever

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

Thrall has been around too long and done too much

#

He doesn’t need to be in the story anymore

#

Saurfang hasn’t been relevant until recently

#

And we haven’t resolved his whole my honor vs horde thing

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

but then Saurfang should never lead again

#

he would be the worst warchief ever, after he tried to kill himself

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

Oh I think the horde should have a council

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

agree

#

but unlikely

flint meteor Sep 23, 2019, 1:29 PM

#

baine for warchief

#

GWjiangoPepeFedora

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:29 PM

#

I think Saurfang should facilitate the transition, maybe be the orc representative, but I think it should be zekhan and Baine, Lorthemar, and all of the other faction leaders

#

Sub faction leaders

#

Race leaders?

flint meteor Sep 23, 2019, 1:29 PM

#

tbh woudnt be surprised if sylvanas stayed warchief at the end but prob wont happen sadly

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:29 PM

#

I hope she gets imprisoned or exiled

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:29 PM

#

Nathanos should be warchief

#

Haha

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

she wont get imprisoned, alreay confrimed

flint meteor Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

😂

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

Not serious

flint meteor Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

yea they said she wont be on a trial

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

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oh there's also a real time cinematic with jaina

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i missed that for some reason

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but not a giant surprise

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

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what?

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how do you know Mar?

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I think sylvanas will be AWOL by end of 8.2.5

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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AWOL? whats that

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Missing

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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ah

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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https://wow.tools/files/#search=encrypted%3A8F4098E2470FE0C8&page=5&sort=0&desc=asc @tropic trail

WoW.tools

WoW.tools | File browser

Web file browser for World of Warcraft game assets

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Gone

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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only one leaky sound

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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so Jaina CGI? nice

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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no

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real time cinematic

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in-game stuff

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:31 PM

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ah

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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not prerendered

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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I thought when you said real time you were talking about a CGI

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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So those are separate from the video cinematic right?

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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very separate

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Cos technically they're not really 'videos'

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Cool yeh I imagine there'll be a bunch of those in the scenarios or whatever

stuck mica Sep 23, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Why do I have a feeling that one was left unencrypted intentionally as a message from the devs? Like, let's enjoy the ending of the war campaign together. :v

round lake Sep 23, 2019, 1:45 PM

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To anxious I should just not think about it till I play through it

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Same

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42 hrs for eu

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Think imma play resident evil 2 remake today/tomorrow to get my mind off it. Still havent opened it haha

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:48 PM

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over 24h still to get all those new lore

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I cant wait anymore, plzzz

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:50 PM

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That "many new quests and adventures across azeroth" thing is still curious

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Could be theres more than war campaign and magni quest chain

forest sphinx Sep 23, 2019, 1:51 PM

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That's what I'm thinking

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Like wasnt there something calia/scarlet halls related?

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I'm wondering if that line that got un-encrypted, then re-encrypted is part of the cutscene/cinematic for Jaina "I'm glad we got to spend this time together."

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Maybe her to her momma after Derek stabs her

smoky mural Sep 23, 2019, 1:54 PM

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@junior prairie it can't be the cinematic because they are all in one file

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:54 PM

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There is still this Velonara Dark Ranger quest

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:54 PM

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And scarlet halls right?

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:54 PM

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yep

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Feasel did say in taliesen interview many of the island quest stories would be continued in bfa

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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More likely it just didn’t get encrypted and didn’t actually provide enough info to matter

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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He could have just meant dragon/wrathion stuff

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But could also be what 'many stories and adventures' means

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Also I doubt the scarlet halls stuff happens

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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he said one of the island quest will play out in BfA

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which is for sure alreadsy Wrathion

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I don't think he said one

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Really feels like that was killed off

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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probably Helya

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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He said some

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I fully expect dragon isles

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That’s the most likely place for 8.3

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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yea right, some

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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They have to introduce it somehow

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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It did get re-encrypted, spent time looking over that file for ages, and the one marla linked was tied to it

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I still think dragon isles is sub zone for 9.0

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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some of the islands quests will play out

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Yeh I mean some arent that important

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They're just to kind of to reintroduce groups for the future

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Like the wild druids etc..

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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No way they waste dragon isles as a subzone - it’s prime patch content

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And we need content for 8.3

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I meant like 2 out of 6 zones or three out of 6

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In 9.0

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Yeah that would be weird

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Kind of like kul tiras

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I expect them to return to the one continent model

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Maybe

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8.2 did a split too

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I think they like the variety you get with splits

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I think you can get that same variety without that

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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"I'm glad we got to spend this time together."got re-encrypted like fast, checked through for ages

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Like in Legion

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I expect 4/2 in 9.0

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I expect 5 zones - unified continent

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:59 PM

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For 8.3 I'm still leaning towards elwynn forest/redridge/spawmp of sorrows remakes

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:59 PM

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That would t work for patch content

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They need a new zone

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Patches introduce new zones

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I dunno 8.1 was dark shore

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 1:59 PM

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That is almost always the case

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The .1 patch never introduces new zones

mystic heart Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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guys checking ptr and only two IDs not playing others cinematics from deathwing and siege of orgrimmar

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Legion, we got more suramar

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Yeh but it could mean they get extra time on 9.0 while still giving us meat in 8.3

long blade Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I just want more heart of azeroth levels

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Dude

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I'm just playing devils advocate

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 PM

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No offense, but that idea just isn’t consistent with any expac ever

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Especially when they said they want to stick with introducing 2 new zones as part of patch content

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Aye and i think they will

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:01 PM

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There is pretty much guaranteed a new zone as part of 8.3 - remastering old zones does not count

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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They just might used remade zones so they can push resources towards 9.0 while still giving us an epic 8.3 with raid

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Unlikely

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Team is plenty big

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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It would if there's loads of story

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Art assets are not something they struggle with

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They have never had problems with art or world design

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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In general I agree

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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And if the amount of story is consistent, then there is no reason they wouldn’t do a new zone

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There’s no precedent

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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But they're working towards a remake (eventually) - they need to build that bank of assets and chip away at some of the zones like with darkshore and arathi

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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We don’t know that

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People assume they are doing a full wow redo

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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No precedent sure but they did a production process revamp last year

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It is an assumption sure

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No confirmation

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Well, we’ve seen file names for Westfall assets back all the way in beta.

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I admit that

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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So it may be possible they’re making assets behind the scenes.

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I mean, if sylvanas attacks stormwind, then we might end up in west fall as part of the story

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Ye

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Doesn’t mean they’ll redo the whole zone

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Might just be pieced

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Pieces

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Like how darkshore mainly uses the old trees still

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And half the zone is pretty much the same but with different npcs

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Specifically the southern and far northern bits

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Yes

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Plus elwynn

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And maybe bits of redridge

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And raid is retaking stormwind

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:05 PM

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I don’t see them making changes to red ridge or Elwynn - there’s currently no evidence pointing to that

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And they wouldn’t do a retaking stormwind raid

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Because why tf would horde help?

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Horde might be anti sylvanas but they won’t help the alliance retake their capital

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That’s stupid

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The only stormwind raid I could see would be one where it’s being actively attacked

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Not where both factions go in to liberate it

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Depends where 8.2.5 takes us

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Faction wise

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Not really - there’s no way they could have a satisfying path towards a rescue the alliance raid

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:08 PM

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The lines might be blurred by the end of it

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Thing about siege of oggrimmwr - most of the raid takes place in pandaria

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Because the siege wasn’t an entire patch sitting there before hand

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Thrall helping jaina wouldn't be unusual - especially since jaina helped save baine

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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God now it sounds like shitty fanfic

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Sounds like the direction the story is going tbh

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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No it doesn’t

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You literally mentioned swamp of sorrows

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I mean the 8.2 cinematic would disagree with you

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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There’s nothing going on there

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Yeh that was just a small throwback to saurfang quest chain

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Prolly wouldn't be included

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:09 PM

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That wasn’t in the swamp of sorrows was it?

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Ended there yes

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Not massively important tho

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Also, I don’t see them focusing on zone redos for a major content patch. You forget the patch process they want to keep

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They want this process: X.1 expand on current content, X.2 new zone, X.3 new zone

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This worked in legion

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I'd agree with you normally there - it just sounds like something they could do to move on from bfa without pulling a wod

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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They went out of the way several times to say this is what they want to do

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They aren’t going to move on

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Bfa isn’t world

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WoD

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I know

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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It’s not even close

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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That's why I'm saying this is a balance

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:11 PM

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It isn’t tho

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:12 PM

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We still get a 8m3 with zones

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And they get more time on 9.0

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:12 PM

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That would be the equivalent of the fucking camera patch for warlords

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They have different teams tho

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So that doesn’t make sense

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Glorious camera patch.

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“Isnt this the content you wanted?”

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:12 PM

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They have a huge art team - so working on redoing old zones doesn’t save anything if the story amount is the same

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All it does is make people salty

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Because they want new content

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Not rehashed content

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Darkshore works because you don’t spend all your time there

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If you had to spend all your time there you would get bored because you’ve already seen it while leveling

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It’s a legit waste of time to spend time reworking old zones with the same amount of content - art team isn’t what they need more time on - that’s the feature team and tbh I’m pretty sure the feature team has probably mostly moved on at this point

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So why not do dragon isles?

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And tbh we will probably find out in a couple weeks

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My guess is live-stream in mid October going into details of 8.3 and announcing ptr being then or a week later

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And maybe saying to look forward to the future of wow at Blizzcon

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They almost definitely want to try and get 8.3 on ptr before Blizzcon

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Yeh I reckon a week before at most tho

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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That’s also probably why war campaign ends in 8.2.5

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Maybe around 20th oct

ancient jasper Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I saw this posted earlier and it has me wondering what the heck is going to happen - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/625568934091030530/Screenshot_20190922-222425_Twitter.jpg

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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So that we can figure out where the expac is going before Blizzcon

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Basically means we get the whole campaign tomorrow

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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^

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Cutscenes and end of war campaign

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Probably explaining how 9.0 is going to happen early

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With 8.3 being a bow tie on the whole azeroth wound thing

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Yeh no way hes asking people to livestream reactions to the first segment of a timegated series haha

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People would not be happy

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

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I think we might honestly be able to see where 9.0 is going with the cutscenes

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Because that’s the only way they can show 9.0 without spoilers

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Have it already be a thing players are thinking about but not the focus of bfa

jade basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:21 PM

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I can see I was tagged in here but I'm not entirely sure what for!

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Idk

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Who tagged you?

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 2:25 PM

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@junior prairie you're right it very likely is that line

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Good call

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:27 PM

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uh, that was me in response to the shadowlands leak being brought up again and uber-religiously defended

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Ah

stiff vector Sep 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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@jade basalt here's a tag for ya: you rock keep on doing what you do ❤️

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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MyMindWontQuiet is less likely to speculate on the likelihood of a leak like that. They know their lore better than pretty much anyone I’ve ever known

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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haha whose uber-religiously defending it?

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

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yea, it was just a moment of "should we get big lore people in here to set things straight?" then we pinged some

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

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After tomorrow tho, I bet a lot of us will have a clear idea of what we expect from 9.0

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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or at the very least an idea of what to expect, if not outright showing it, but somehow hiding it at the same time.

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eitherway, hope it means the end of the shadowlands leak 'cause it's tiring to see it brought up so much

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I expect us to have a solid idea so they can talk about it at Blizzcon without people being consumed

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Confused

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:31 PM

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yeah there's that too

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@stiff vector I thought so, btw it seem's any mention of that line has gone off most websites, even wowhead (I can't seem to find it) really weird tbh

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Because it was encrypted

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And wowhead wants to stay in blizzards favor

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It’s like when that cinematic leaked back in warlords

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:33 PM

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It was un-encrypted for like 3-4 days then poof super encrypted and scrubbed from most sites I look

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:33 PM

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They removed it when blizz asked

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:33 PM

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probably the case yeah

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:33 PM

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It’s the right thing to do

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Blizz lets us datamine

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So we try to show them respect in return

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Tho tbh less so lately 😕

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I mean, ngl

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if I had to choose between being able to datamine, and being able to playtest something

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I'd go with playtesting

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yet if there's something they really wanna keep secret or not talked about, then I can understand the amount of encryption being at least somewhat reasonable

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and just have to hope it's not going to be that way when every next PTR build deploys

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:37 PM

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The problem with that approach is always that it increases the risk of something with errors going life.

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The testing is there for a reason, usually.

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(And lets face it, if its major story developments, there is always additional risk on getting it wrong)

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I mean the brewfest things wasn't fully tested on horde side and now some stuff is not able to complete, I understand hiding stuff ofc, it's just testing is important

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:39 PM

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It’s very clear they have tested the war campaign

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It’s a linear questline - not too hard to test

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Tbh it’s almost definitely just a package for these cinematics

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:40 PM

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The brewfest ram quest is just like that, and you can't do it cause doesn't register names no longer there

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I'm not saying its untested. Just that the risk is higher. Wouldn't be the first time they kept stuff hidden and ended up with problems. 🤷

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Didn’t they hotfix that already?

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Also, old events in general are a hot mess - they’re spaghetti code

junior prairie Sep 23, 2019, 2:41 PM

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idk just saying wouldn't be surpised if 8.2.5 had something go wrong cause of not testsing 😅 Although I hope not ofc

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:42 PM

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War campaign is the only untested bit

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:42 PM

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inb4 theres a critical bug and peole cant progress in the campaign

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Highly unlikely

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This ptr spent weeks with nothing changing on our end

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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They can test themselves.

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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It is very likely it was all changes to the war campaign

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i was joking

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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blizz seems too confident that it'll have a critical bug preventing progress

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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The only thing we didnt test was quest and cinematics

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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And that they tested the shit out of it

jade basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Gonna return your compliment right back at ya @stiff vector ❤

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:44 PM

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considering muffinus tweeted out for streams on reset

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I'm just excited at the apparently lore shattering event that is happening tomorrow

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Dunno about lore shattering

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Well, not shatterin, but story-moving.

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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My point is it is important

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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It definitely needs to make up for the disappointment that was 8.2 cinematic

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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My guess is that someone is gonna die...what else would be this huge?

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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That was the lamest raid cinematic

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I already schedules a RP guild leader conference for the horde on my realm for next weekend 😄

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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The entire structure of factions being reformed

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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A city burning to the ground maybe

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But like - I can’t see that happening without testing

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I doubt thunder bluff is gonna bite it.

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Oh definitely not

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:46 PM

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So we can try to get on the same page relatively soonish (and maybe handle it ICly when shit hits the fan)

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I still believe thundrrbliff is a trick

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I would love raiding stormwind in all honesty

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Scenario.

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Like lordaeron

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:47 PM

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make use of that age old portal that's been locked behind a gate

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for something

jade basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Woah haha @dense plover. But yeah I don't find much joy in speculating about leaks, as they're literally never true. I do read (most of) them though!

Just look at this number: of the dozens and dozens and dozens of leaks released each year, only 2, in the entire history of WoW, have been true.

And they were nothing like the leaks you see on a regular basis.
And they were released just a couple days, maybe a week, before the expansion announcement.
(And after the trademark had already been found, at least for one of them, though to be fair Blizz is no longer doing this it seems.)

Note: by "leaks" I'm referring to unofficial leaks (i.e some poster on a forum), not to "Blizzard made a mistake" leaks (i.e trademark leak, or data released too early on PTR [like allied races in Legion], etc.).

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Horde would have to fight through the likes of tyrande and others. Aysa, Gilneans.

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Lots of people call stormwind home atm

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:48 PM

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@jade basalt Real leaks do happen, but typically they’re overlooked or not believed.

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Like ye olde Cata leak.

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And the Warlords leak

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Durotar warfronnnnnnnnttttttttttt

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Pls

jade basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:49 PM

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As I said, there's only ever been 2, and that would be the Cata and the Warlords ones.

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I want to see Firepaw defend durotar.

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Zentabra and maybe Belmont or someone

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 PM

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why would belmont defend durotar

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah pretty much why I hardcore doubt he shadowlands stuff

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Legit leaks are extremely vague

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 PM

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The forsaken are currently living there

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 PM

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And very short

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Pandaren, Mag'har, Darkspear

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And regular orcs alongside forsaken now

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Maybe Firepaw, Geyarah and Zentabra

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Then have a lightforged, Gilnean anddddddddddddddddd let's go KT

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For alliance

terse patrol Sep 23, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Why would Ji Firepaw defend Sylvanas

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:52 PM

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He is still in the horde and lives in durotar.

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Since we are stopping with the shadowlands bullshit, can we also stop with the “8.3 isn’t happening” bullshit? I’m so sick of it. BfA isn’t warlords of draenor - there’s no evidence they will skip 8.3, and with the size of the team, and how far along we are, it doesn’t make sense. 6.2 was developed as being the last patch, 8.2 was not

tulip sun Sep 23, 2019, 2:53 PM

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BfA is not nearly as bad as WoD

forest sphinx Sep 23, 2019, 2:53 PM

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8.3 is going to happen

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Imo it’s still better than cata

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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WoD was peak shit 😄

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Only dumb people believe that peach

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Like for real

indigo laurel Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Especially int erms of storytelling and worldbuilding

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I would say BfA is similar to MoP pre Thunder King

tranquil steeple Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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if 8.2 were to be the last patch, there would be most likely be way more content developed and tested

forest sphinx Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Same here @dense plover

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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it's on par with cata for me, cata had very fun daily zones and more fun dungeons (but without m+ so less repetitive value), also firelands

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also cata added new class abilities firret

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Cata had Raid issues and endgame content issues that bfa doesnt

zealous basalt Sep 23, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Cata is when fun quests happened

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Bfa has the mop issue of tons to do but none of it mattering

tropic trail Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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That " 8.3 ist Not going to Happen" annoyes me much more then people actually believing any fake leak

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Cata had the day deathwing came

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that alone actually makes it better than bfa

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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yes

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I’m talking in terms of total content

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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8.3 is 100% going to happen and anyone doubting that is wrong

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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we don't know yet either if bfa's final raid will be as terrible as dragon soul was

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like at this point, I'd give the edge to cata

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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And significance and renewabikity of content

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How?

sullen dawn Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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the leaks thing is different, theyre unlikely true but its fun to discuss and there is a small chance

dense plover Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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We haven’t had a single bad raid

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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because dragon soul is what made cata significantly worse

forest sphinx Sep 23, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Each expansion brought it's own flavor to the game. I like each expansion for what it tried to do and what it brought to the table. This includes WoD

languid yoke Sep 23, 2019, 2:56 PM

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we had Uldir