its probably total bullshit
#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
most truths without context, legit leaks, seem like nonsense, dont make much sense, and arent that detaile
jade basalt
Like, this map mentions: Shadowguard ethereals, Shirakess naga, Elune stuff, Emerald Dream stuff, friggen Vol'jin stuff?, a Black Forest, and so on. None of that is new. It's just stuff we saw the last few months, or even more ancient. They're almost all part of the most common fan theories. It's extremely unlikely that a new continent would bring absolutely nothing even remotely new. Even Northrend, which was just an ice zone, brought stuff like Sholazar or Crystalsong.
Also I think the name "Stygian Depths" is from a fan concept.
Also "Darkfront" a really bad name, it just makes me think of Darkshore and warfront at the same time
dense plover
i dont think it means much other than maybe dragons ¯_(ツ)_/¯
jade basalt
Yeah there, "Sylverian", another recent thing.
plain vigil
I'm just saying they stole the name from mount so people would think it was more believable
dense plover
possibly
jade basalt
If a "leak" brings nothing new then it's not real, new content must always be new content
plain vigil
But at the same time store mounts have hinted at things
tranquil steeple
especially when expansions are considered
plain vigil
Runesaber hinted suramar, That fennic fox pet hinted BFA content, etc
plain vigil
I still think all the store mount animals should be tameable spirit beasts
zealous basalt
No
plain vigil
It would make them less jarring in game
Like the windsteed is literally a spirit beast. They were supposed to be shown in mop but they never were
Starseeker is tameable already
Get dragons would be a dope pet
Fey*
dense plover
that would defeat the point
you pay money for the mount
if someone can get it for free as a pet, why pay for it?
also
this is definitely general wow
not ptr spoilers
sour burrow
Lol and Gandem's weirdness strikes again.
plain vigil
Damn Tobias it's been a while
tropic trail
ok world first race ended we can get 8.2.5 PTR :v
stiff vector
sure, tuesday
dense plover
^
Race had nothing to do with ptr
The muffinus tweet apparently meant Tuesday
Ptr doesn’t care about the race
They’re different audiences
stiff vector
the :v implied sarcasm @dense plover
pls
i found @tropic trail's twitter acc https://twitter.com/gustavndreasson/status/1155519618825510912
tropic trail
thats not my twitter account lmao
tropic trail
lol
plain vigil
Eyyyyy we can get PtR now
tropic trail
sadly we have to wait to tuesday
plain vigil
Um it could drop tomorrow
languid yoke
it probably won't
tropic trail
unlikely. The last time jeremy hinted in the same way of a ptr patch on twitter
dense plover
also
how the fuck would monday work?
and why would they do monday, not friday?
they dont work weekends
you dont come into work after not working and push a build
thats nonsense
unborn glacier
Ruling something out just because it hasn't happened yet, is foolish.
dense plover
not when its never happened
thats statistics
its the opposite of foolish
a monday first build has NEVER happened
because everyone is getting back from a weekend
and are doing the final changes
thats why tuesday is maintenance
thats why tuesday is when major builds usually drop
thats why expacs release ttuesday
night swift
I dont think any game devs do builds that aren’t released on a tuesday
Eso and Ff14 both only release stuff on tuesday
terse patrol
Weekend builds only happen during expansion release crunch.
zealous basalt
hah
plain vigil
If they were waiting for the world first race to end, which I'm not saying they are, but they could have, it wouldn't make sense to wait an extra day to release this to the ptr
They don't work weekends except in expansion crunches.
So Monday would be possible
Not saying it will happen
But you can't rule it out
I'm hoping for tomorrow, but realistically thinking Wednesday or Thursday
dense plover
I can rule it out
its never happened
not once
in the history of a 15 year old game
and across all of their other games
for a first build ptr to release on a monday
not a single time
they dont do it
stiff vector
that is a pretty limited dataset though
might be 15 years but there's not that many new PTR phases
only a handful per expansion
uncut vault
Guess we’ll find out in about twelve hours
stiff vector
i think it'll be tomorrow
vendor realms had some maintenance done on friday
PTRs had a very quick restart
they're not there just yet
either way would be fine with me because i have wednesday and friday off
tuesday night, thursday night and all of friday EU time would be A++ for me
vestal wing
OMG
storm marsh
Ha?
frigid crater
proper scarab
Hype
flint meteor
so can we expect something on 8.2.5 tomorrow or thursday?
tropic trail
most likely tomorrow
dense plover
^
plain vigil
Could be tomorrow, Wednesday or Thursday
storm marsh
Pretty sure its tomorrow because of that muffinus tweet. I'm literally excited for this patch. More than I was for regular 8.2
uncut lintel
same
languid yoke
tomorrow evening I'll have m+ and I'll continuously bug my group by checking here every minute to see if ptr went down / 8.2.5 went up yet
and once it does I'll quit mid-run 
terse patrol
Well, 8.2.5 is exciting because it should have stuff we haven’t even heard of yet
stiff vector
or they'll keep it all from us
zealous basalt
Wonder if tomorrow the patch will simply drop
or if the realms will just go down to let dataminers datamine
storm marsh
What do yall think what will the patch feature ? Besides new models
I dont remember if there is any outdated arena/battleground that could get a rework
languid yoke
if the servers stay down I'll die of dead
dense plover
outside of new models, probably something to followup on the raid
hopefully new stuff for mechagon, even though thats unlikely
maybe some new essences?
probably some war campaign stuff
not likely to be a ton of stuff
its a minor patch
but itll probably have the brewfest updates we didnt get in 8.2
dense plover
and probably updates to other holidays around that time
harvest fest
maybe tavern crawl microholiday update to add some new taverns?
storm marsh
Hoping for trial of style new sets
storm marsh
Is season 4 happening in august
storm marsh
I guess its very unlikely that 8.2.5 will drop before it
I mean the event
If there are any updates for that
terse patrol
I think there’s the mild chance we’ll get vulpera and mechagnomes in 8.2.5 but I wouldn’t get any hopes up.
dense plover
no chance
they specifically said no allied races in 8.2.5
8.3 is the earliest
but we may see changes and hints
terse patrol
Link?
terse patrol
Pretty sure they said 8.2, but I could be wrong.
dense plover
but generally the .5 patch is still the patch
storm marsh
They specificly said rise of azshara and 8.2.5 is part of that
terse patrol
Brewfest is at the end of September.
dense plover
yes
brewfest update is likely in this patch
but that doesnt mean the vulpera thing means anything
storm marsh
Yeah the patch will 100% drop before october
dense plover
and it doesnt mean they have to drop before this brewfest
adding the content when you redo a thing is smart
even if it wont be relevant for a while
because its easier to add everything at the same time
terse patrol
I think Blizzard wants 8.2.5 to be a fairly beefy patch.
But that’s just a gut feeling
storm marsh
I dont think vulpera brewfest icons have anything to do with hints for allied races. Just like the vrykul masks from hallow's end didnt mean anything
languid yoke
my dog's barber's sister's girlfriend's father's brother's son's wife's uncle told me that 8.2.5 will be lead up for 8.3 and has Bolvar turn the Undead on us while Sylvanas makes a pact with N'zoth to stop Bolvar so she can become the lichqueen. Parallel we see Gazlowe trying to murder Gallywix as they return to Kezan; Malfurion gets bitten by a worgen and becomes the new Gilnean leader while genn marries anduin and becomes queen of stormwind.
stiff vector
this all seems perfectly legitimate
languid yoke
I agree
ionic terrace
uhh
zealous basalt
Does it mean
sour burrow
Oshi~
zealous basalt
PTR down?
zealous basalt
Party Sync?
sour burrow
I... don't understand itz.
ionic terrace
oo it's like ffxiv
dense plover
wtf
sour burrow
Read it twice, need to see it in action. XD
zealous basalt
Wow
dense plover
bee mount too
agile token
?????
agile token
OH HECK
dense plover
and the whole raid thing
like with the ragnaros thing
and recruit a friend is back
zealous basalt
A new raid?
ionic terrace
AV
dense plover
for 15th anniversary
dense plover
"A new content update for World of Warcraft is in development and will soon be available on the Public Test Realms (PTR). While not all features will be fully functional and available for testing, here’s a look at some of the new content coming in this version."
it does say some
uncut lintel
dumb
dense plover
i imagine the quests are alliance only
uncut lintel
:((
dense plover
but i bet the mount isnt faction locked
languid yoke
yeah probably
sullen dawn
I think thats all the features
languid yoke
but that alone is good neough
uncut lintel
i hope not
ionic terrace
So I wonder if today
dense plover
are the ptr servers down?
ionic terrace
NO
dense plover
yeah
ionic terrace
oops caps
sullen dawn
But quests and story content will be in too
dense plover
i expect the build might still be tomorrow
ionic terrace
Still up ye
sullen dawn
Prolly some heritage armour
dense plover
we have gotten development notices in advance before
ionic terrace
blizz n0
dense plover
if they try for today i will be genuinely suprised
ionic terrace
don't do this to me 
ionic terrace
I wonder how this person found it
dense plover
marl?
ionic terrace
it wasn't suppose to go out until 12
dense plover
well its gonna be published in a few minutes
so probably a monitoring site for the posts
or url stuff
@stiff vector
ionic terrace
yea prob url
dense plover
explain your voodoo that you do
ionic terrace
nah not marl
ionic terrace
sour burrow
13lastToday at 1:46 PM
Looks like ptr going up today
followed by the link
3 mins before Marl posted it here
ionic terrace
i only saw cause i was looking at the channel in secret finding
sour burrow
so ask 13last how.
dense plover
damn
terse patrol
Weird that it took this long for the bee mount to get in game though.
dense plover
wanted people to focus on the content thats relevant first i think
from what we got early on - its probably a rep grind thingy
ionic terrace
now we wait
ionic terrace
I'm actually really hyped
languid yoke
also emphasis on "While not all features will be fully functional and available for testing, here’s a look at some of the new content coming in this version." so for anyone complaining about lack of things, there's gonna be more. Like heritage armor.
languid yoke
just pointing it out because some people are like "wHeRe Is My MaX lEvEl CoNtEnT?2???ß?" without reading that very first sentence
dense plover
im just suprised it isnt mentioned
zealous basalt
I told you it was first build
dense plover
nothing about "Another Chapter of the War Campaign", "New Essences" or anything
i imagine some of that is in the build
im just suprised they didnt mention it as part of the focus
stiff vector
previous "development notes" have been pretty barren as well
tropic trail
oh wtf
stiff vector
they're not patch notes
dense plover
yeah i know
the focus changes patch to patch in what they want people to notice and test most
tropic trail
so ptr is down?
languid yoke
not yet
terse patrol
Its only 11 am there
tropic trail
shit, so no datamining yet
smoky mural
Strange they didn't say anything about the heritage armour after shaudi confirmed them
languid yoke
not ready for testing
tropic trail
lol they said not one word about war campaign
languid yoke
previous heritage armor quests were also not ready to test in the first build
tropic trail
for TW Firelands on live servers we will need to wait until December.. since Cata TW is next week..
uncut vault
this seems like stuff we didnt know about, + mention of the big feature that is worgen and goblins
we know theyre getting heritage, war campaign is guaranteed to happen
dense plover
yeah
as i said, the stuff they want the focus on testing
because this is the stuff thats unexpected and new
EVERYONE will do the war campaign, so they dont need to announce it
stiff vector
party sync will take most of the time to test
dense plover
and quest replay
stiff vector
that shit sounds exploitable af
tropic trail
A dick move would be now, if they just teased us with this announcement and bringing the PTR tomorrow
stiff vector
is it 😄
dense plover
theyve done that before
sour burrow
Why did the post die?
dense plover
i think they did that for 8.2 didnt they?
languid yoke
I agree with it being a dickmove cause it'll make me stay awake til 1 AM
ionic terrace
@sour burrow ?
sour burrow
"Sorry, you don't have access to that topic!"
ionic terrace
oof
tropic trail
yea, I gonna die if I have to wait 1 day longer
languid yoke
the US one is alive, too
ionic terrace
wait it's still up
stiff vector
oh its back up
sour burrow
Well that error went away. Weirdness.
stiff vector
it was giving me a login prompt too for a few minutes there
languid yoke
I'm gonna die if I'm awake at 1 AM and nothing happened
sour burrow
Glad I wasn't the only one, Marlam. Heh.
languid yoke
if I'm awake at 1 AM and got 8.2.5, then... I won't be able to sleep
xd
gotta embrace the HD doggo
agile token
HD doggo with new animations
ionic terrace
good doggo boi needs good headpats
dense plover
new animations were a given
the model update is also a skeleton update
thats how it worked in WoD
its why running wild has had so many bugs for so long
languid yoke
give /bark soundeffect pls
ionic terrace
I wonder if this old school AV will be like 1.5
languid yoke
running wild's cast animation right now is ~.~
dense plover
when you know you are gonna completely redo something, you dont work on the old one
languid yoke
I reported it being bugged in 8.0
dense plover
they drop at the same time
agile token
or like in a couple hours
languid yoke
You mean Gilneas is also gonna be reworked because it's even more severely bugged since bfa? 🙃
ionic terrace
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense plover
so whenever it drops
languid yoke
Gilneas bugs more and more ´with every xpac
ionic terrace
don't even get me started with worgen starting zone
meager zodiac
the ptr is probably still tomorrow no?
languid yoke
EU doesn't have seperate ptr servers
agile token
What about genn's model
dense plover
probably no changes
stiff vector
he has run his course
agile token
Genn has gotten so many smaller model updates
dense plover
^
agile token
They'd do it this time as well
ionic terrace
I like to think that Genn's worgen form was a sort of test
uncut lintel
if they dont fix gilneas soon its gonna be hell trying to level a worgen
languid yoke
I'd be fine with Genn getting a more unique model
sour burrow
I hope we get new fur colorations, too. Maybe let us be white wolves as well.
sour burrow
I know.
ionic terrace
Genn is old so he's grey
sour burrow
Hence 'I hope'.
uncut lintel
sad
agile token
Top hat customizations
ionic terrace
😏
dense plover
dont overhype yourselves
agile token
TAILS
uncut lintel
TAILS PLZ
dense plover
this is going to purely be HD redo of models and animations
stiff vector
there's 2
sour burrow
Hoping isn't overhyping.
uncut lintel
why D:
ionic terrace
because you'll get vulpera for that
uncut lintel
i hope so
stiff vector
shush not the v word
uncut lintel
i want lil foxys
ionic terrace
LOL
sour burrow
I want to stay Alliance, so I'd definitely love tails, even if it's 'wrong'.
languid yoke
worgen are not getting tails
dense plover
^
sour burrow
I know. :P
uncut lintel
ig they should remove running wild then, u cant run on all fours without a tail :DDD
languid yoke
like it's just a sad truth
tropic trail
i already want to see the 15th anniversary stuff
sour burrow
Jeeeeez, so much negativity here. :P
uncut lintel
i want that 15th anni dragon moutn
languid yoke
I wanna see what the "new old" raid is gonna be. Where it takes place. If it'll have classic-bs-tier trash mobs, too
tropic trail
lol
dense plover
no clue
stiff vector
i feel like it is usually same day as notes
dense plover
if we knew we wouldnt need to wait
stiff vector
but not sure
dense plover
either same day or day after
stiff vector
lets hope the latter
ionic terrace
shh shaggy bird
dense plover
also, bee mount is probably like kuafon, faction quest but not faction locked
stiff vector
@ionic terrace i would use wednesday to fix all the shit blizz broke
dense plover
XD
stiff vector
cant use tuesday for that because work
ionic terrace
😛
uncut lintel
plz
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stiff vector
yeah then i'm in trouble
uncut lintel
😮
ionic terrace
stiff vector
builds sometimes hit before servers
dense plover
its rare
dense plover
yeah but 8.2 failed to deploy several times
ionic terrace
I N C O M P A T I B L E
dense plover
they had a bunch of problems getting that working initially
stiff vector
i mean live realms get incompatible sometimes
it's not like they know how to be careful with that
😄
dense plover
we only saw that preview
stiff vector
well there is that brain eating amoeba going around @uncut lintel
uncut lintel
O.O
stiff vector
have you been in an open body of water recently
uncut lintel
wtf no i dont swim water scares me
dense plover
everyone is gonna spend all that time looking at animations
stiff vector
ok you're good
uncut lintel
lol
stiff vector
but the brains @dense plover
ionic terrace
I hope they are horribly bugged on this first build
languid yoke
I'm gonna spend all my time transferring all my current worgen onto ptr and then change everyone's tmog then realize I don't have my entire wardrobe, cry, then do random animations and look at wowhead
time well spent.
dense plover
XD
uncut lintel
ima turn all my worgen half naked
uncut lintel
OMG LOL
languid yoke
literally the same thing I did when the ff14 benchmark and hrothgar dropped
ionic terrace
Would not be surprised
dense plover
that would be literally the best thing
languid yoke
all my worgen are halfnaked already
uncut lintel
hide chest is the best thing thats ever happened
uncut lintel
now we need hide leggings plz
dense plover
no
ionic terrace
Anyone remember the turtles in MoP beta
languid yoke
and all worgen are feral
stiff vector
someone in MMOC hype thread mentioned that the shadowlands leak mentioned new scaling tech
uncut lintel
xD
dense plover
XD
stiff vector
big oof with that 8.2.5 announcement
languid yoke
yeah but this... different scaling tech, no?`
stiff vector
it didn't exactly go into detail
"New scaling tech that will do away with the frequent item level & stat squishing."
that could fit the bill
languid yoke
we don't even know how this scaling tech is gonna work like. And even more interesting: CAn you do northshire quests over and over again and get easy xp there?
languid yoke
anyone wanna try that out when ptr drops
dense plover
and possibly a cooldown
languid yoke
for science
dense plover
they wouldnt make it so you could run the same quest 100 times
ionic terrace
the bigger question is why
stiff vector
because ffx has it and it works great @ionic terrace
ionic terrace
No I mean doing northshire quests over and over
stiff vector
encrypted pls*
dense plover
yeah
languid yoke
idk northshire quests seem to be the most simple thing you could do to speed level
dense plover
like, you can redo a quest every X hours or days
agile token
wake me up when ptr updates
stiff vector
yeah because blizzard likes people speed leveling
languid yoke
sounds about as interesting as doing freehold over and over and over and over and over again
stiff vector
ohwait
languid yoke
yeah and we all know blizzard never adjusts their systems to avoid speedleveling on initial release
only AFTER it released
because why think ahead
plain vigil
ThE pTr WoNt CoMe On A mOnDaY!
zealous basalt
what now
languid yoke
it will come at 1 CEST, that's tomorrow!
zealous basalt
Some fucking relevance about the stupid N'zoth eye
tropic trail
better there is something about that Nzoth eye
otherwise we had it all the time for like nothing
languid yoke
something about that dumb flower from the level 54 necklace quest
tropic trail
then some whispers from the corruptor
meager zodiac
sorry to ask nwolf, but how much time betwen now and that given date?
agile token
So 2 am
dense plover
dev notes =/= patch
languid yoke
may: 3 and a half hours xd
agile token
4 hours?
dense plover
we do not know when ptr will drop, except soon
the latest it can drop today is 5 or 6pm PST
meager zodiac
oh
dense plover
so less than 6 hours
dense plover
if we dont get the build in the next 5 hours 20 min, we wont get it today
tropic trail
in 2 hours its Tuesday already for me
languid yoke
alternatively, if the servers don't go down in the next 4 hours 20 min we probably won't get it today
dense plover
^
languid yoke
me too
dense plover
builds tend to drop sometime in the next 2 hour window
languid yoke
but if I go to sleep and see the ptr has been up already I'll be sad cause I wasn't there from the first minute
yeah which is why I said 1 AM for me, because that's the latest times i can remember for ptr builds
so 4 PM PST
stiff vector
i mean i've had a few builds that came out while i was waking up
which is in like 9 hours
dense plover
im just saying the most likely window for today is the next 2 hours or so
languid yoke
NO
I wanna be here when the build drops and obsess over the ptr servers not going up for minutes and hours and cry myself to sleep
oh god what if the build drops today
tropic trail
if you stay up PTR will be tomorrow
languid yoke
but the servers only go up tomorrow
aaaAAAAAAA
guess the dressing room will have to do then
plain vigil
I mean tbf we didn't expect an announcement, they don't usually come till release or after release
dense plover
no
dev notes are either before or as the patch drops
specific test notes are after
things like "We are testing this, please test this thing and give feedback"
uncut vault
I guess T&E got to see the development notes early
already have a full video out about it
dense plover
that sounds possible
dense plover
if thats the case, build could actually drop today
languid yoke
and I was like "wth he can't know this, can he???"
languid yoke
the anniversary one
languid yoke
mrgm actually mentioned that on saturday on redbull already
dense plover
when we got a peak
storm marsh
WHATS GOING ON
dense plover
ptr might be dropping today
uncut lintel
hype
dense plover
im hoping youll be able to do the dailies and stuff in it
and get the drops
and stuff
plain vigil
If it does happen today I won't ever let you forget it 😂😜
dense plover
its very unlikely
we have gotten notes before the build
and again
its never happened before
so its not unusual to not think it will happen
i still dont
but who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tropic trail
I think they will still go on the tuesday live, because of the jeremy tweet
which sucks
stiff vector
i mean jeremy is jeremy
tropic trail
because Im hyped NOW
stiff vector
he wouldn't know an exact build deploy time
if the team is bored they might just push it today
dense plover
if they feel its ready, theyll push
ionic terrace
it's the engineers you should be watching
dense plover
if it isnt, they wont
i dont think any of the engineers are active on the twitters
unfortunately
ionic terrace
There's one
tropic trail
so....
dense plover
so it might actually happen today
tropic trail
today? 👀
ionic terrace
LOL
dense plover
XD
ionic terrace
too many eyes
tropic trail
lol
languid yoke
hey I had that happen to me twice in the last week because of 8.2.5
tropic trail
to many eyes
languid yoke
cough
tropic trail
to hyped sry cant post your comment
languid yoke
yeah literally the same as what happened to me
dense plover
well, 8.2.5 post for welcome still says 8.1.5
stiff vector
i mean forum team might just be prepping
stiff vector
but my argument is getting thinner by the minute
languid yoke
eye spam is mandatory to express hype
ionic terrace
they prob just copy pasta it
zealous basalt
increasing violence?
dense plover
forums just as cancerous as always
languid yoke
eu forum thread is fine
languid yoke
giveittomegiveittomegiveittomegiveittomegiveittomegiveittomegiveittome
dense plover
plain vigil
Me: calls something
People in #beta-ptr-spoilers : that won't happen
Blizzard: hold my IPA
plain vigil
I mean... Not saying it will happen this time but it has happened before... Many times in BFA
zealous basalt
oshit ptr realms down
storm marsh
Are 8.2 ptr realms down
dense plover
no
storm marsh
Oh
dense plover
no they arent
zealous basalt
nyej
ionic terrace
dense plover
im sitting on the server
i will let you know
at least today
cant tomorrow, i have work
zealous basalt
o
i got wrong
ya
account wide rank 5
but you need to play at least 4 months with a single essence
dense plover
ok
i want to play games
someone else can hang out on the server and watch
ping me if they go down
like, with shutdown message
zealous basalt
...heh
uncut lintel
ping me 10 times if they go down
plain vigil
@dense plover just thought you should know servers are still up
stiff vector
definitely post if there's a countdown or something though
i only get a notification when they are actually down
languid yoke
me do serverhog den
zealous basalt
Im still surprised that with all the insults he can pull he hasn't been muted
languid yoke
?
zealous basalt
gandem, not you wolfi
languid yoke
I'll hl spam you so you wake up ok, ok
agile token
plain vigil
I'm sorry peach, kinda meant that in a light hearted way
As for you makore idk what you're talking about man 🤷♂️ I'm just existing
Kinda sad no AR info was given with the patch notes, but that was expected
Can't wait to get that bee mount though!
uncut lintel
i need that bee mount itll remind me of my fav transformer evryday
plus its adoralbe
my spelling
unborn glacier
@plain vigil Don't take it to heart.
plain vigil
I really hope that we can still get the mace, although I'm a Hunter so here's to hoping it's BoA tmog
Oh wait
It's already obtainable!?
Damn people should have reported it earlier
Or more vocally
zealous basalt
what mace
unborn glacier
Mace?
plain vigil
The honey stick
harsh wedge
Has been available since launch of BfA
plain vigil
I know
I wasn't aware
Noone made a fuss about it and I don't have mace tmog so I didn't see it in the UI
zealous basalt
Who aws the person with the theory about Jaina and Lor'themar having their minds controlled?
uncut vault
Me
tropic trail
Im not sure about that
ionic terrace
💤
foggy abyss
That's actually great
That is something I loved in FF14 And i'm glad it's coming to WoW
dense plover
Don’t think it’s quite the same. Probably not zone sync
dense plover
Still a lot of time
plain vigil
Still have 3 hours
ionic terrace
In the mean time I'm watching a murloc kill a guard
terse patrol
Eh Tuesday isnt long anyways.
limber mural
Holy fuck that ability to scale down is amazing
plain vigil
Good bye 8 day dungeon queues, hello 2 day dungeon queues
meager zodiac
it seems more likely that tomoroow it is
restive pasture
Have they ever released a PTR on a Monday?
dense plover
nope
plain vigil
Not yet
plain vigil
It's almost definitely not happening... yet
zealous basalt
You are irritable sometimes, you know?
plain vigil
Only if you view me as that way 😊
dense plover
no
only because you act that way
you are the kind of person to ask why even when someone gives you an explanation
"Why is the sky blue" "Because XYZ" "But why?"
zealous basalt
The kind of person that gets up really late and still asks for the hour
ionic terrace
plain vigil
Me: just minding my own business
Makore and Peach: being flat out rude to me for no reason
"haha let's laugh at this guy we find annoying over the internet because we can" where are the fucking mods
I'm just trying to stay positive with the rule of yet, and y'all are treating me like shit
I don't appreciate it
Leave that shit in 4Chan
tropic trail
dense plover
you keep going
thats the problem man\
adding yet isnt positive
its annoying
"we can hope" - message of positivity
"quote from someone else...yet" - obnoxious message that lacks any thought or compelling engagement
plain vigil
Then don't respond if it annoys you? Like any average person would?
tranquil steeple
or you could not be the older version of "are we there yet"
dense plover
yep, not happening today
be excited tho
it means tomorrow is almost definitely guaranteed
agile token
plain vigil
@tranquil steeple bruv that's not even the same thing tho.
crisp shoal
agile token
Is it here yet
tropic trail
Wolf did you went to sleep?
languid yoke
yeah
I went very very tired mode like 30 minutes after I said I'd stay up xd
and then at 1:30 the coffee kicked in.
languid yoke
same but coffee made me wake up in the middle of the night so I had nothing to do but stare at my phone hoping it comes after all. It didn't.
tropic trail
why the hell did I wake up that early...now I have probably to wait for 9-10 hours
languid yoke
ikr
agile token
hmpf
agile token
tropic trail
can I assume that the PTR will drop with the weekly reset?
tropic trail
yea I know, but I mean, will it drop at the same time with the weekly reset?
agile token
It can come at any time
dense plover
Much later
It doesn’t drop that early
1-2pm PST is the average time
Weekly reset is automatic
Ptr requires people to be there
People aren’t there when the reset happens
Most people in the US start work at 9am
agile token
EU waitin
dense plover
Yes, because blizzard is based in the pacific US
Never expect anything ptr to happen on EU time
Essentially tho, 7-8 hours from now is when we should expect it to drop
agile token
tropic trail
11 pm sounds legit. It was with 8.2 and 8.1.5 somewhere close to 11 pm if I remember correctly
tropic trail
It has to be a heavy story patch
sullen dawn
I hope so, 8.2 was really lacking in story
tropic trail
thats right, while 8.1.5 had some story development
stiff vector
Early PTRs have generally always hit when I was biking home
So in like 2-4 hours
But I hope they follow the later build schedule of 6-7 hours from now instead because I need to eat
sullen dawn
yeh no rush for it to pop up, more concerned whats in it 😛 they didnt even mention worgen/goblin heritage
stiff vector
there's likely a bunch of story
i was mostly responding to the earlier discussion
i wouldn't be surprised if they'll do a bit more effort to hide the the story than usual tho
sullen dawn
you mean datamine wise?
stiff vector
yep
sullen dawn
but i need a loregasm 😦
tropic trail
It also could happen that we will get just the half of the story in the first build
sullen dawn
text strings and models are always the most interesting part for me, but yeh they usually dont come all at once
indigo laurel
I mean, blizzard usually doesn't "hide" story in PTRs, no? Except cinematics
tropic trail
they hid the heritage armor quests, I think?
in 8.2
we got them with later builds, right?
plain vigil
Rip Gan's Predictions 0, Blizzard releases 1
indigo laurel
well, maybe we will get an 8.3 announcement soonish? But I guess the big chunck of storystuff would come more with that one
sullen dawn
i mean even 8.2.5 war campaign would be nice to see
indigo laurel
Yeah. I mean, or our roleplaying stuff it would be nice to see more about the impact of the conflict within the horde outside of Nazjatar cause at the moment we kinda dance around it a bit
tropic trail
Im still curious which side Talanji will choose
if she will side with Saurfang and Jaina then its a confirmed blizzard doesnt give a shit on a legit Story this expansion and we can assume that Tyrande will probably forgive the horde too and pretend nothing happened
plain vigil
Was that blue post a patch note or a build note?
Cause if it was just a build note it means there's more content coming in that patch
@sullen dawn best guess for 8.3 announcement is a few weeks prior to blizzcon
With blizzcon announcing the next xpac
Unless they decide to wait and do 8.3 at blizzcon
tropic trail
Im sure 8.3 will be announcement somewhere at the end of august
blizzcon will announce the new xpac
sullen dawn
it was neither really - it was a 'patch introduction' i.e. 'these are some of the things youill see in this patch'
plain vigil
I wouldn't count on it being so soon. We still have theoretical story content in 8.2.5
tropic trail
2 years ago they announced 7.3 at the gamescom
gamescom starts with 24 august or something
tropic trail
yea I know, thats why we will get a live stream instead
plain vigil
Okay so it was kinda build notes. That's good then because it means more content
tropic trail
if not at the end of august, then at the start of september
plain vigil
As for the gamescom debocle.., gamescom is European Blizzcon. The fact that they're not at gamescom means they don't have enough to announce for that time slot, I really don't think we should expect an announcement until after 8.2.5's release...
And some people are estimating as late as October for 8.2.5
tropic trail
they are not at the gamescom because they dont have the time for it and focusing on their actual projects, to announce them on the blizzcon, thats at least what their statement was
and Im sure they gonna give us something instead of gamescom.
sullen dawn
yeh 8.3 and 9.0 announced together at blizzcon would give mixed messages i think
so 8.3 announcement october latest, but probably between late august and late september
plain vigil
They did the same with 7.3 and 8.0 ... @sullen dawn
plain vigil
Hmmm you're right... But 7.3 hit PTR in June...
dense plover
It’ll be after they release the patch
sullen dawn
yep mrpeach agreed
plain vigil
We haven't even gotten 8.2.5 yet. Do not expect 8.3 in August, that's way too early
They announced 7.3 after it had been on PTR for 2 months
dense plover
8.3 is probably after Blizzcon but with final cinematic probably already out or released there
plain vigil
Maybe
plain vigil
8.3 playable after blizzcon, announced a few weeks before is my best guess
Yes exactly peach
dense plover
I guarantee 8.3 will be on ptr before Blizzcon
With raid testing already done too
Or at least active at the time
plain vigil
Yeah I can agree to that
terse patrol
Ye, there’s no way it’ll be after Blizzcon.
We’ll likely know what 8.3.5 is at Blizzcon as well.
dense plover
Oh for sure
But I don’t think 8.3 will release before Blizzcon - it could release mid October maybe
But then the raid still wouldn’t be out
plain vigil
So I'm thinking we'll be getting 9.0 in September at earliest just because 8.3.0 is two months behind (legion) already
dense plover
Eh
sullen dawn
i dont think we'll get 8.3 until early december
on live
and raid in jan
similar to last year, no raid at xmas
dense plover
Let’s make an schedule here. Assuming ptr goes as planned - it’ll probably release by the beginning of September- this puts 8.3 around 8 weeks after
So mid November
Raid would release early December
Following that, 8.3.5 would probably be mid February
With next expac 4-6 months after
So July-September
sullen dawn
ok i think +1 month after 8.2.5 on your schedule. so early sep = 8.2.5, 3 months later, early dec = 8.3, raid in jan, 8.3.5 in march
9.0 in sep
sullen dawn
it was 6 months between 8.1 and 8.2, will it not be similar?
dense plover
Eh
Remember that they do it on raid schedule
Expect 4 or so months between this raid and the next
And January for the raid is too late
sullen dawn
it was also 6 months from uldir to Battle for dazar
plain vigil
Legion released 7.3 August 29th, then 8.0 was announced Nov 3rd released August 13. That's almost a full year. We should expect the same for 9.0, which will probably be a Christmas release like WoD
dense plover
First raid gap is intended to be longer but it wasn’t that long
sullen dawn
yeh i thought late dec, but they dont do raids then
dense plover
And they can’t do late December because of holidays
plain vigil
It just needs to be clear that we won't get an August announcement for 8.3
dense plover
So my bet is early December
Or if 8.3 comes right after Blizzcon, maybe late November
terse patrol
I assume 9.0 will release around August of next year.
terse patrol
Which feels like ages away.