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dense plover
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the real problem is that the alliance doesnt have any skeletons that directly lend themselves to diversity outside of worgen, which are getting heavily reworked

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its possible they could use that skeleton on a new allied race

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and that would be a good parallel to the vulpera that wouldnt feel like a direct kick in the pants like mechagnomes would

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mechagnomes should be a customization option

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IMO they should even go ahead and add goblin stuff too b/c mechagoblins is thematic af

dark furnace
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Yeah, imagine a Goblin with one mechanical leg and eye

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Becaus the original leg blew up

dense plover
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the mechagnomes talk about replacing your parts

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its the best kind of customization option in that it canonically makes sense to be added

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especially if it is tied to mechagon rep

dark furnace
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If they add a Tinker class next exp it would be perfect to add mechanical parts in 8.3 or 9.0 as a way to hype

uncut vault
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they even have unique stuff when talking to gnomes

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it really should be stuff for gnomes

dense plover
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they have unique stuff for every race actually

ionic terrace
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FeelsSadMan Hopefully they bring it back up tomorrow

dense plover
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but i do not think it would be fair to give the alliance another set of customizations and have the horde get nothing

ionic terrace
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Weird that this even happened if you ask me

dense plover
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there have been no additional horde customizations

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and doing that again would suck

ionic terrace
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I'm really hoping for a large build on Tuesday

dark furnace
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Also, if you got the Draenor water walking mount, will you be able to buy the Mount Equipments from Nat?`

ionic terrace
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That's a good question, but I'm pretty sure you'll need Anglers

dense plover
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you get it for free on every character, AND you can buy it

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oh

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the draenor mount?

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idk

dark furnace
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You'd think it would be the same

dense plover
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i dont know if that one lost water walking, but it would make sense, yeah

ionic terrace
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I'm sure it did

dense plover
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tweet muffinus

uncut vault
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ideally for me, this is customization for tinkers

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and goblins will get similar stuff

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since gazlowe and his crew are also majorly present

dense plover
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yeah

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thats my view

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I dont expect it to be the same

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but I expect both to get something

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the alliance cant keep getting additional customization while the horde gets nothing

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its unhealthy

tropic trail
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so tinker class is most likely to happen?

uncut vault
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at the moment, it is the most likely, yes

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there could be a curveball themed after whatever 9.0 ends up being

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but there are quite a lot of hints towards tinkers in BfA

tropic trail
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Wrath of the Banshee Queen and Dark Rangers as Hero class alias Wotlk 2.0

uncut vault
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and mechagon is a pretty ideal starting area, if they do end up being a hero class, which is 50/50

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I think the problem with that is, dark rangers are a pretty specifically forsaken thing

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even the wardens they race basically become melee dark rangers

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I could maybe see them calling the horde one dark ranger, and the alliance one priestess of the moon, but that runs into the problem of another elf class

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gnomes and goblins need the numbers

tropic trail
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yea that makes sense

uncut vault
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the dark ranger style look would work better as an allied race

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undead elves are a moderately requested race

dense plover
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what we need are mail classes, and a tinker would be an ideal mail class

uncut vault
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and have multiple options for playability, whereas junker gnomes really arent

dense plover
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mixing bits and pieces even for making their armor

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and yeah

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you could even use mechagon city

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since post-dungeon it should be reclaimed

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would be a good starting zone

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dont have to use the whole thing, but cleaning up some of the old pieces could help with intro quests

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really depends on 8.3 and 9.0 tho

limber mural
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would be like NB starting zone only less scuffed

dense plover
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well, considering its for a class i expect a questline similar to DHs

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maybe explain how some other races become tinkers

uncut vault
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Im still hoping for goblin and gnome only, lol. Allows for more custom animations and mech looks

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or at the very least, stick to a small number of races that dont involve elves or humans

limber mural
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dwarves would work at a push

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nightborne would work at an even bigger push

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considering the amount of robots they keep around

uncut vault
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magic based robots, belfs have em too

limber mural
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daaaark irons also probably

uncut vault
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gnome style robots are very much true mechanical skill

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not enchantments

limber mural
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If we were going down that road I'd expect each race to have their own cosmetics

uncut vault
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which is why I also dont think artificers would work

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hence my desire to only have goblins and gnomes, ideally

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Id rather time be spent on diverse mech and turret designs

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than giving elves more stuff

terse patrol
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tbh

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Tinkers shouldnt be magic.

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Let goblins and gnomes have their moment in the sun.

dense plover
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yeah

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considering NEs and BEs got DH

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it wouldnt be unheard of

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and it wouldnt be unacceptable if they are a hero class

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if they start at lvl 1 tho

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oof

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probably unlikely tho

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gotta avoid artifact stuff

terse patrol
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I’m sure Tinker will start at 120, to avoid Heart of Azeroth and Artifact balancing.

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@dense plover

dense plover
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i mean

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not neccesarily

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HoA is mostly class agnostic

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the amount of work required there would be minimal compared to legion with artifacts and class halls

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really depends on if we keep the heart, which I hope we do

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im sick of losing the thing we work on, especially when its cool

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i like armor talents

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i like the new Heart system

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clearly they are leaving room for more slots in 8.3

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but it would be totally reasonable to continue with it

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sure we lose the neck slot, but is that a huge loss?

uncut vault
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I feel like not being a hero class could still work

dense plover
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personally I would love for the heart to become a permanent system they build off of

uncut vault
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just use a form of the stuff allied races have

dense plover
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allied races still use normal classes tho

uncut vault
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start at, say, 20, in a unique starting zone that just explains it a bit then sends you off

dense plover
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the problem solely lies in legion

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artifacts and class halls are a huge chunk of xp and leveling and playing through the story there

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they pretty much said at blizzcon that most future classes will start after legion

uncut vault
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well, the class campaigns arent particularly, but I could see them maybe making artifacts for them

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just nothing else

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a base artifact appearance

dense plover
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yeah I guess

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honestly I doubt it though

uncut vault
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theyre gonna have to address the awkward problem anyways

dense plover
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eventually yeah

uncut vault
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might as well start it with a class that could have feasibly existed during legion

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and isnt all that time locked

dense plover
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or they could do a full starting zone - for tinkers, they could reuse mechagon and mechagon city, but it would be phased for tinkers, and then have story stuff - start them at level 100, they gain 10 levels in mechagon city - "oh no, timeline problem" - zap you to the past - play through bfa, head into newest expac after

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that at least makes it so the hero class isnt just the fastest way to level

uncut vault
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I'd be fine with that too, though I suspect that if theyre gonna do a level squish ever, they'd do it before or in tandem with a new hero class

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plan while theyre ahead

terse patrol
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ehh

dense plover
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i dont expect one soon

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too much work

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i honestly think thats part of why BfA didnt get as much work as it needed

terse patrol
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I don't think they'd make a new base class unless they redo the entire world.

uncut vault
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they already did half the work with level scaling

dense plover
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resolving all of the problems with level scaling

terse patrol
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So the big selling point isn't "redo all this old ass Cata content."

uncut vault
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the numbers are the hard part of all of it, the only thing they need to do now is making sure the actual level number changes properly

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which again, a lot of the work has already been done for quests

terse patrol
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It'd be miserable to have to fully level through all that old content.

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I get it if it's just for likle, an existing classs.

uncut vault
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no more miserable than allied races 😛 but I agree, thats probably why they'd lean towards making it a hero class

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justifies unique cosmetics better too

terse patrol
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^

dense plover
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i think the problem with a level squish, is that even with 10 levels becoming 5, it means quests feel less impactful

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so I think a level squish would need to come with some kind of system that rewards you inbetween talents and all that

uncut vault
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which is why they also mentionedm aking leveling faster alongside it

dense plover
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i genuinely think they still need to provide some kind of reward every level

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obviously the old talent tree doesnt work

uncut vault
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well, thats kinda the goal

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with less levels, they can spread out ability and ability ranks better

dense plover
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i think having a leveling artifact tree would be cool tho

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something where by max level you put all points in

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but in between there are some gold traits

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could be the equivalent of the ability upgrades you get while leveling

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maybe have them all be equidistant so that choosing one path and finishing is efficient, but no one path is more efficient

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i think also, some of the abilities they tested in legion should come back again

uncut vault
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so basically like Legion artifacts? You chose your path, but you got them all in the end

dense plover
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yes

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it doesnt solve everything

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but it is a skinner box

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it feels good to put points in things

meager zodiac
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it's just bizare, to build mechagon in an extremely neutral light, having the horde representative be in the graces of the junker gnome leader while our representative is kinda willing to trow us out at first chance, the same leader that ordered each side to play nice and forget their conflicts

And then in nazjatar having an alliance only story of us helping a new race, alying with them, a race that is probably related to our old allies the jinyu, a race we fight alongside, build up and help rise up agaist their enemies, they even become troops to send out on our table mission

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and off the 2, the first is going to an allied race most assuredly

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who looks at both these story lines and makes the decisions?

terse patrol
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Who knows?

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I was hoping the Ankoan would have had more effort put into them.

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Instead of using the night elf skeleton.

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How many nelf skeleton races are there atm?

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I was hoping they’d use the Forsaken skeleton

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With females.

meager zodiac
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it just doesnt make any sense

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its an obvious path, we get the race we help survive and have complete acess too as a playable one, same with the vulpera are basicaly only seen on the horde story and they are gonna be playable sooner or latter

dense plover
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they do that ALL the time tho

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and again

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they dont have the tech to be player characters

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they arent even marked as such

pulsar iris
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ankoan look super cool as far as i have seen them

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a lot cooler than jinyu

meager zodiac
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they shouldnt, who makes the decision betwen the 2 and decide junker gnomes with all their current story? its just a convuluted and confusing choice

dense plover
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hopefully junker gnomes are customization options

pulsar iris
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hopefully

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but we have precedents to believe them to be a full allied race

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just like LF draenei should be a customization option

dense plover
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no they shouldnt

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lightforged draenei have totally different beliefs about the light

uncut vault
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They should

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They don’t, though

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The lightbound certainly do

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And we see hints about it in people like the priestess chick

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But they’re just used as yellow Draenei with better tech

zealous basalt
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Des could rant again about the nightborne and all stuff

uncut vault
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that reminds me, where did Des go?

pulsar iris
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yeah where is des

terse patrol
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idk

night swift
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I think they left awhile back

zealous basalt
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He left like

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december?

pulsar iris
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why

zealous basalt
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dunno

tulip torrent
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is 8.2 on ptr

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or not yet

unreal minnow
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I just tried now i cannot login its off 😄

foggy abyss
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Not yet

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We currently are at 6.1 on the PTR

dense plover
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Ptr is down currently

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They’re probably working on something

tulip sun
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Its been down since Friday hasn't it?

upper lantern
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Maybe they're getting ready to release Nazjatar

dense plover
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Possibly

gilded forge
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@dense plover could we expect to have Baine quest in next ptr update as well?

dense plover
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Idk

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How would I know?

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Nazjatar needs testing so expecting that soon is reasonable

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That’s my only data

tulip torrent
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when can we expect 8.2 to hit live servers

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or its too early

dense plover
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Not soon

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July 3rd is the guess

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They haven’t even started testing Nazjatar yet

tulip torrent
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shoudnt that be too close to the classic

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i believe they said summer of 2019 for that

tropic trail
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i wonder how they will do with Classic and 8.2 release dates..

upper remnant
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i think something like june for 8.2 and august for classic would be perfect

tulip torrent
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they might release classic first

tropic trail
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they could even release Classic on September..

tulip torrent
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or even after blizzcon

tropic trail
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they said summer 2019

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i hope tomorrow we get Nazjatar and War Campaign..

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i want to save Baine

dense plover
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They said beta in summer 2019

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They didn’t give a full release outside of 2019

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And that’s also their goal

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It’s not a guaranteed release

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They just entered friends and family alpha

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That’s usually 1-2 months before closed beta

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Than another few months to release

tropic trail
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Oh beta is in summer?

uncut vault
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They said beta is in spring, release is confirmed for summer

tropic trail
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Oh

dense plover
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Huh, I guess I mixed stuff up, but I don’t know if that schedule will happen. It’s nearly summer

unborn glacier
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I want to know why my queen is having me help the traitors release the treacherous cow why

upper remnant
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@dense plover well they still have 7-8 weeks before summer it is enough to drop a beta and then launch classic in late summer

unborn glacier
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Pretty sure beta was confirmed for the summer. I easily see classic being released for Q4

dense plover
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That’s what I expect

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Classic sometime in October

tropic trail
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If classic gets delayed the ppl will rage

dense plover
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So?

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Better a good product than a shit one

upper remnant
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Yeah they already comfirmed it for summer 2019 though so I am thinking august/september.

dense plover
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Considering that you can’t purchase it, there is no legal release obligation like with a wow expac

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So unlike a new expac it is actually possible

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There’s no “product release by DATE”

tulip torrent
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i dont think that they did the right thing with the sub to the classic

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atleast they should add a base price one time for the classic

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being on the same sub like the normal wow wont bring them much proffit

dense plover
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Lol

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The entire point is to get people playing modern wow

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And keep people subbed

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The most likely play pattern for a lot of people right now is play, ubsub, play

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Instead it will be Modern wow, classic, modern wow

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I think their goal is new classic stuff during modern slumps and vice versa

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It will lead to profit

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Not to mention all the classic holdouts who get to try modern wow as part of paying for classic

lone marten
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Its is lol

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Modern wow and classic wow is the same subscription

dense plover
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Yeah

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That’s the point

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It’s exactly how they will make profit

tulip torrent
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even with classic on the same sub i dont see how it will make ppl stay subbed for more time

dense plover
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Because people will switch back and forth between them instead of unsubbing during breaks

tulip torrent
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ofc this is my personal view

dense plover
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Because the breaks for one will be when stuff is happening in the other

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Either way the classic discussion is definitely something that should be in #classic-wow

tulip torrent
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but this means that there should be new content for the classic

dense plover
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There is a content plan

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It’s reintroducing old patches

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But again

tulip torrent
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yeah sorry stopping 😦

dense plover
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Because this isn’t the right channel, and I personally couldn’t care less

tropic trail
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I say they gonna announce Classic release date on the gamescom

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like 1 month after gamescom comes classic or something

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and patch 8.3 will also be on gamescom

limber mural
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oh

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nvm

ionic terrace
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Still offline, eh

upper remnant
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It is probably for Tuesday

dense plover
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^this

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Could still happen today tho

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It’s early

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Idk

unreal minnow
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lol 3-4 days of lol

dense plover
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?

unreal minnow
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off*

whole cedar
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PTR is back guys

foggy abyss
zealous basalt
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ASDFOIAS

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Anything new?

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LEGENDARIES?

whole cedar
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small patch, probably to fix whatever was wrong

zealous basalt
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I don't think my low dps can be fixed by patches

dense plover
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What size was the patch?

whole cedar
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90mb i think

ionic terrace
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pog

whole cedar
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new graveyard by junkwatt

ionic terrace
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65mb btw

dense plover
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Oh yeah only DB Giles updated

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Files

whole cedar
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looks like reclamation rig is also fixed

dense plover
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Fixed?

whole cedar
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wasnt really resetting

dense plover
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Does it give less shit rewards?

whole cedar
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will find out soon

dense plover
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Plz. Last time I got like 10 scrap and a boss part and I’m like, I could’ve killed several bosses during the time I spent defending this, AND I had to pay to build it

whole cedar
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soloing mobs in junkwatt seems harder now

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either that or my voidwalker is sucking at keeping threat

dense plover
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Junkwatt? Is that a specific part of the map?

ionic terrace
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when did you kill them though

dense plover
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Or is that autocorrect being dumb?

whole cedar
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friday? 😛

ionic terrace
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No I mean was it raining

whole cedar
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no

ionic terrace
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weird

dense plover
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They could be changing the scaling

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Right now the new content feels behind ilvl wise

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And if they want to update those rewards the mobs have to be a bit harder to make up for it

mystic heart
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wtf where are NPC for teleporting to mechagon

ionic terrace
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gone

dense plover
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Uh oh

whole cedar
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flight path is working

ionic terrace
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^

dense plover
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Ugh

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So I have to teleport to stormsong and then fly?

mystic heart
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kk but with npc it was faster 😄

dense plover
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That’s shitty

ionic terrace
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or set hearth

whole cedar
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you should be able to fly from boralus? 😛

ionic terrace
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horde

dense plover
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I’m not alliance

ionic terrace
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oh

dense plover
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Typo

ionic terrace
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oh

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lmao

dense plover
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Horde travel npc made sense

whole cedar
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looks like chromie's quest is no longer a daily

dense plover
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They either need to add it back, or add a portal

whole cedar
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interesting

ionic terrace
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It is

dense plover
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The dailies are supposed to rotate

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So Chromie isn’t always up

whole cedar
ionic terrace
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they are just marked on the map like that

mystic heart
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@whole cedar it was after previous build

dense plover
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Also I hunk they changed them to yellows

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Yeah

whole cedar
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ah okay

ionic terrace
dense plover
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So they can be map marked

mystic heart
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after wowhead posted this

whole cedar
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thats good

dense plover
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Map doesn’t have Blue !

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They might add it

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I doubt it

ionic terrace
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not yet JardinSmuggo

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feels amazing doing that 5th (?) rebuilding the mount quest

dense plover
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Map tracking of dailies is nice tho

ionic terrace
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by amazing I mean terrible

whole cedar
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i had the test drive today

ionic terrace
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you need to kill the junkwatt mobs for the recycleable thingy

dense plover
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What is junkwatt?

uncut vault
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this is gonna bother me so much

dense plover
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Is that an area on the map

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They moved it!

ionic terrace
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but it's apparently not a 100% drop rate from the recycle thing

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yea

uncut vault
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stuff like that is why I wish there was just a feedback button, cause it isnt bugged

ionic terrace
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the elite area

dense plover
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Hooray, you can see the whole map now

uncut vault
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its just stupid that its inconsistent with the rest of the ones

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so you cant click through

dense plover
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Oh, I’ve been calling it the depot

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It should be in a different corner like how nazmir does it

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Or voldun?

uncut vault
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nazmir's is different, and that one sucks too

dense plover
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One of the zones does it

uncut vault
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not having them in the same corner on all the maps makes it impossible to click through properly

dense plover
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It would block half the map on nazmir

whole cedar
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I mean its either that or have it cli witrh the map :p

dense plover
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Click through isn’t the issue - you need to be able to see he map without zooming

zealous basalt
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They should put it

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in a clear area

uncut vault
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not sure this is really important

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nor this

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Id say having the function of the clicking not work because it keeps sending you to the side zone map is important, though

ionic terrace
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oof i love flame turrets

whole cedar
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trying to trigger the mylune quest rare...

unreal minnow
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Theres something downloading actually on Ptr

ionic terrace
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yeah it's just a small patch

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@whole cedar which one is that again?

dense plover
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@whole cedar what loot did you get from the rig?

whole cedar
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sorry, had to go afk. @ionic terrace fungarian furor, gotta use the quest item to make the mushrooms around the quest area grow. @dense plover nothing, i went there like 5 minutes after and it was built 😦

ionic terrace
ionic terrace
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fyi I got the orange cat paint from the mushroom rare you were trying to spawn

whole cedar
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yeah we knew that drop already, thanks though ❤

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how long did it take for it to spawn

ionic terrace
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I think it was my 2nd mushroom

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But after it spawned none of the other mushrooms spawned him 😛

unborn glacier
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@dense plover No Gamescom announcements. Blizz is pulling out this year

dense plover
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They don’t have a booth. Doesn’t mean they won’t do a livestream during that time

distant folio
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They're not going to livestream stuff while everyone is at gamescom

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And if they wanted to make any kind of announcements, then they just would've done it at Gamescom

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Maybe they just dont have enough to announce, so they're keeping it all for Blizzon.

hasty elbow
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keeping 8.3 info till blizzcon is a bit long imo.

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may be they will doing their own 8.3 livestream sometimes before/after Gamescom.

tropic trail
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probably

craggy nexus
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8.3 will start to get some narrative probably after they start to solidify what 8.2 is going to be. The story is probably already there, that isn't what I am speaking of. It is not advantageous to reveal 8.3 before 8.2 is even a thing.

dense plover
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8.3 might be before gamescom announcement wise

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Probably whenever Raid is done, or shortly after

distant folio
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Well that's always how they do it, they announce and reveal the following patch before they even tackled the next patch

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Just how long term works

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Otherwise people are left with 6+ months with no news

terse patrol
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Hard to say

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Gamescom 2017 was 7.3

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Maybe they want to just do a stream.

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(Hope it’s not a sign they’re moving funds from BFA advertisement to the next expansion)

dense plover
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I mean I think it’s more that most people watch gamescom because a massive amount of their playerbase is in the US

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So investing in a booth is an inefficient use of funds

terse patrol
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Did they say they won’t be showing anything?

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Or its just no booth.

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@dense plover

strange falcon
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It could also be they're planning a reveal stream to save resources

tropic trail
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I hope we will getting later some lore interviews about 8.2 and maybe 8.2.5

upper remnant
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@terse patrol They said no both and not going there, but they could still stream from california

uncut vault
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They’re not tying patch announcements to cons anymore

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Which is a good thing IMO, announcing it on their own schedule

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They don’t need to spend their time and money getting devs to Europe, when they can do it in office

dense plover
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^thjs

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It’s expensive to send devs, have a booth, hire staff

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And if shareholders want to save money, cutting back unnecessary costs could help stop employees from being laid off

terse patrol
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Well, a lot of big devs are abandoning cons.

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Nintendo Direct showed them that it isn’t needed.

limber mural
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and then Sony tried to mercilessly steal that idea to much laughter

zealous basalt
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And got.rekt

whole cedar
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@dense plover ´just did the reclamation rig again, got a box with 200 spare parts, some energy cells and the blue 1000% water breath punchcard

#

overall not worth it if you solo fund the rig like I did 😛

unborn glacier
#

8.2.5 will be announced shortly after Gamescom or sometime before

#

8.3 will be definitely strictly left to BlizzCon

#

I have no doubt

uncut vault
#

.5 patches dont really need announcements

whole cedar
#

^

uncut vault
#

and 8.3 isnt coming out after november, that is an insanely massive gap

unborn glacier
#

This one will, as it will likely tie up the Sylvanas storyline and 8.3 will be the Nzoth patch

#

I was right about 8.2 PTR, I have to trust my gut on this again

ionic terrace
whole cedar
#

doing my daily stuff now hehe

uncut vault
#

tying up story doesnt mean it needs an announcement

#

especially considering we have no knowledge of any mini raid in it

unborn glacier
#

@uncut vault This one will. I'm certain of it. This is a huge plot line with a lot of the playerbase split on it. If it was just something they sneak in, blizz will have killed the rest of the respect they have.

uncut vault
#

I mean, theyre obviously going to announce the release date for it

#

but it doesnt need a live stream or anything

unborn glacier
#

8.1.5 had one

whole cedar
#

I liked their announcement for rise of azshara, even though it was in the middle of my mini vacation

uncut vault
#

half an hour of "heres story we cant spoil and QoL updates" doesnt seem like something theyd do

#

8.1.5 did not get a live stream

#

only 8.1, with Ion, and 8.2, with Muffinus, got them

ionic terrace
#

If there's a build today I hope they open Nazjatar

#

But we shall see

tropic trail
#

im just hoping for the war campaign

unborn glacier
#

Mark my words. 8.2.5 will be a big patch that ties up the Sylvanas storyline and set up 8.3. and we'll get an announcement for it and some details as to what we will see.

tropic trail
#

and also Nazjatar to tame new pets if they arent bugged

unborn glacier
#

If I'm wrong, I'll send you 20k gold

hasty elbow
#

Nazjatar is center piece for 8.2 we could expect they will open very soon.

#

Since Mechagon is grind fest....

pulsar iris
#

@unborn glacier i'm printing this so you can pay me

unborn glacier
#

@pulsar iris That's to porter, not everyone

pulsar iris
#

i printed this so you can pay him

tropic trail
#

Im curious if blizzard makes sylvanas nzoths puppet or if she really has some plan/"endgame" that not ends being an old god puppet

ionic terrace
#

oof

#

forgot you get teleported under the ground if you have the past silithus phase and take the portal LUL

hasty elbow
#

ptr shutdown!!

#

pog

ionic terrace
#

😮

tropic trail
#

inb4 jinxed

ionic terrace
unreal minnow
#

Hope it will get on soonish 😄

hasty elbow
#

I told you. 😂

languid yoke
#

8.1.5 got announced in the same livestream as 8.1

#

at least the main parts of it - the mini raid

tropic trail
#

I just want them to announce when we are getting 8.2

unreal minnow
#

About june

dense plover
#

Probably July 2nd or 3rd with shadowbringers

#

They always try and hit on the same day as FFXIV

tulip sun
#

Ptr updates?

dense plover
#

Shutdown

#

So possibly

#

No deploy yet

languid yoke
#

my soul will die with both things being at the same time

tropic trail
#

i hope today is the day we find out where Nazjatar is on the map

tulip sun
#

I want more storiez

dark furnace
#

It's probably right between Zandalar and Kul Tiras

#

No wait sorry, I was thinking of Nyalotha

lone marten
#

I reckon it might be similar to what they did with Argus

#

And have it on the corner of Zandalar and KulTiras

foggy abyss
#

Nyalotha ?

#

Nyalotha cannot be an actual place on Azeroth

#

I'm guessing it as a Zone kind of like the Elemental plans

dark furnace
#

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that it was between Zandalar and Kul Tiras but that was probably speculation

tropic trail
#

T&E had that speculation that Nyalotha could be in the middle of zandalar and KT

limber mural
#

Isn't that nzoth's prison? They aren't the same are they

#

Ah

dark furnace
#

But if Nzoths seals are in Azsharas Eternal Palace, shouldn't that mean that his prison should be there too?

uncut vault
#

not really much speculation needed for that, its the most obvious spot

#

we dont know if its in the palace, because its possible we're teleported at the end

#

the map space for his prison area is separated from the palace itself

dark furnace
#

That makes sense

#

Otherwise the prison would be under the Well of Eternity

dense plover
#

It’s not separated

#

It’s like, right in front of the back

#

Then you get teleported about 2500 feet

#

To a bubble on top of a titan thingy

unborn glacier
#

I'm pretty sure, Nyalotha is the cityscape surrounding Nzoth not some ethereal realm. That'd be a copout. The old gods were always depicted with massive black, cosmic horror looking cityscapes surrounding them, but blizz has since failed to so us actually archeological and architectural remnants of the Black Empire. This would be a great opportunity, seeing as it's unlikely next expac will be the 'return of the Black Empire' xpac most wanted

upper remnant
#

So servers are down can we expect to see them up today or not?

whole cedar
#

it was an announced shutdown so yes

upper remnant
#

@whole cedar Nice ! Thank you !

ionic terrace
#

where is my build

tropic trail
#

@ionic terrace its hiding from us

ionic terrace
dense plover
#

They’re probably fixing some stuff last minute

#

Gotta make sure it doesn’t crash

#

Especially if they are opening Nazjatar

#

And if it does crash, they probably want server architecture that gets the server back up ASAP

ionic terrace
#

Realmlist is back, so soon™

upper remnant
#

Well I am in

ionic terrace
#

Uh

upper remnant
#

Yeah no downloading though

dense plover
#

Looks like no build

ionic terrace
#

😐

dense plover
#

Probably an issue with something or they are going to try again

uncut vault
#

wasnt expecting crucible of flame to get nerfed before the big CD one

dense plover
#

It’s definitely the most used

#

It’s predictable

#

Engine is my favorite one, but it uses the same effect as an azerite effect and the buffs are conveyed poorly

languid yoke
#

wowhead dead for anyone else?

uncut vault
#

it is, yes

mystic heart
#

for me works

upper remnant
#

yes it works now

uncut vault
#

if not nazjatar this build, I at least expect some of the scenarios

#

like baine's, and the dark ranger one

upper remnant
#

is there a build today though? They was nothing to download

uncut vault
#

there wasnt with that reset, but it seems there will be one

upper remnant
#

Oh nice, since it is begining to be a bit late I thought that they wouldn' had time to restart the servers again

ionic terrace
#

I imagine tomorrow

whole cedar
#

After seeing a 10pm PST build on Blizzcon week and a mother's day build last year, I'm prepared for anything

ionic terrace
#

Lol yeah

dense plover
#

Might not be today tho

#

Last time they did a preemptive post it was a few days before

upper remnant
#

I think that the changes announced on the post are already up

dense plover
#

Nope

#

There hasn’t been a patch

#

They took the servers down

#

But no build

#

They specifically say in the next build

upper remnant
#

I know but I did tested the frienzied regeneration as an example and it does have the new cost now, at least I think so

dense plover
#

That’s old

#

The new change is that iron fur stacks to 8

#

The frenzied regen change was the last patch, like a week ago

upper remnant
#

oh ok it was in the same blue post so I thought it was new

#

oh ok it was in the same blue post so I thought it was new

uncut vault
#

it got a change this build too

dense plover
#

It did?

#

That’s confusing

#

There hasn’t been a build yet

#

Just to be clear

#

Server version hasn’t changed

uncut vault
#

oh I know, upcoming one I mean

dense plover
#

nods

dense plover
#

CDN config update

#

build coming soon

#

or possibly hotfixes

#

hard to know

#

all types of wow use the same config

#

nvm

#

it was a new classic build

#

sorry

ionic terrace
#

😛

tulip sun
#

BOO

tropic trail
#

lol

tulip torrent
#

which day do blizz update the ptr mostly ?

#

tuesday ?

vivid harness
#

Yeah

hasty elbow
#

And if there’s no update on tuesday, it will be either thursday or friday.

mystic heart
#

just wait 😃

unreal minnow
#

Is there anything about Nazjatar?

ionic terrace
#

ooh

#

That "Other Interests" quest shows Nazjatar when you click on it

dense plover
#

Weird

#

Guess they’re working on implementing

ionic terrace
#

Yeah I imagine it was in last week's patch but the quest wasn't up till today

dense plover
#

Probably

#

Still not open tho

ionic terrace
#

mhm

#

Waiting for the shutdown message again lol

#

Also, defeating the legendary battle pets gives quests rewarding 250 rep each

hasty elbow
#

was there a Wednesday build in the past?

ionic terrace
#

Idk, but it seems likely today since we think they wanted to push it yesterday

hasty elbow
#

hmm

#

not yet but should be soon.

daring dune
#

@lilac tiger O, zdraste))

#

Hey ̶o̶r̶c̶ monk, delay video

mystic heart
#

Darova

lilac tiger
#

Noone heartbroken

#

Da kak mne delat video, esli blizzard tormozyat????

dense plover
#

Guys

#

This channel is an English Channel

#

There are channels for other languages

daring dune
#

Sorry, sorry :d

dense plover
#

It’s ok

#

Just providing info

#

I’m not a mod

#

Hopefully we get a build today. It’s very clear they tried to deploy yesterday and something broke

lilac tiger
#

I'm really looking forward to updating with Nazjhatar

dense plover
#

@lilac tiger we can’t show that

#

Sandbox images aren’t allowed

lilac tiger
#

@dense plover okay okay 😦

dense plover
#

I know. I wish we could

mystic heart
#

Are servers offline?

dense plover
#

Idk

#

@ionic terrace

ionic terrace
#

No

dense plover
#

^

ionic terrace
#

Why?

mystic heart
#

Thanks

ionic terrace
#

Lol another classic build NotLikeDuck

dense plover
#

No content changes

#

Probably a fix for something

#

They’re unimportant right now

ionic terrace
#

I just want the ptr build is all 😛

dense plover
#

Friends and family alpha just started

#

It’ll happen when it happens

ionic terrace
#

So reaching honored with Rustbolt opens up a new daily quest chain with the Quickcharge npcs

strange falcon
#

🤔

ionic terrace
#

why think

#

yeah i'm wasting my time ik lol

tropic trail
#

lol

#

@ionic terrace i bet you will get Pathfinder Part 2 on the PTR.

ionic terrace
mystic heart
#

3 gb

#

omg

royal orchid
#

yes, got it too. 3,12 gb for me

mystic heart
#

maybe other languages

ionic terrace
#

it is time

royal orchid
#

Build number 30262

ionic terrace
#

@dense plover

meager zodiac
#

noice

#

yass queen ptr, werk

pulsar minnow
#

Hopefully we'll see Nazjatar up and available

ionic terrace
#

Just waiting for servers now

#

omg

pulsar minnow
#

WOAH!

#

I'm so excited for Nazjatar

tropic trail
#

daym

foggy abyss
pulsar minnow
#

It has already become my favorite zone in terms of aesthetics

ionic terrace
#

There better be an achievement to drown in there

daring dune
#

Servers are dead for me 😕

#

Are they available for you guys?

pulsar minnow
#

Would be awesome if an N'zoth whisper triggered by doing that

ionic terrace
#

najzatar loading screen

pulsar minnow
#

This?

#

Looks more like the eternal palace imo

ionic terrace
#

oh yea it is

meager zodiac
#

is there any way to see all the npcs added in this specific build patch?

ionic terrace
#

@daring dune and yea, they are still offline

mystic heart
dense plover
#

build?

#

is nazjatar open?

royal orchid
#

yes, 30262

#

we don't know

uncut vault
#

Not until wowhead posts the full updated database, yana

meager zodiac
#

thank you

dense plover
#

ping me when servers go back up

uncut vault
#

glad they put the effort into a more accurate one

ionic terrace
#

oo shiny

uncut vault
#

as much as I liked the first iteration, it was more of a physical platter

#

would be a good glyph

dense plover
#

holy shit

#

thats fucking sexy

mystic heart
#

yea cool thing

dense plover
#

"NEW The Circle of Stars
Description: <empty>
Difficulty: 30-player Looking for Raid
OrderIndex: 12"

#

3rd lfr wing

dense plover
#

server list is up, so servers should be going up soon

whole cedar
#

server list has been up for a while now, just waiting zzz

dense plover
#

huh

#

so looking through the datamined maps

#

found this

#

AbandonedMines

#

looks like a new island

#

and it looks finished

upper remnant
#

Island expedition maybe?

dense plover
#

definitely

#

but it isnt used yet

#

which is strange considering how finished it looks

uncut vault
#

looks like gorgrond, weird

tropic trail
#

i was going to say that

dense plover
#

definitely reusing some assets

#

but it also seems to use some voldun assets

#

maybe

#

also

#

map for baine scenario

tropic trail
#

looks a bit destroyed?

uncut vault
#

orgrimmar just isnt fully loaded, cause you dont see all of it

tropic trail
#

i mean that part of SoO/Baine Scenario

uncut vault
#

oh, thats just forsaken stuff

tropic trail
#

oh

uncut vault
#

they're going full MoP 2.0, its a bunch of blight canisters and forsaken banners

dense plover
#

you can see the chain area

#

its big

#

the little bubble in the center is the titan seal I talked about and is likely the azshara fight location

daring dune
#

in circle of stars

dense plover
#

its not a circle of stars

#

its a titan seal

uncut vault
#

is this a pre-titan dragonblight?

#

its weird, it has crystalsong

#

but theres no titan stuff

dense plover
#

i think it might be tied to recruiting chromie for the heart

#

also, its a very small slice of dragonblight

#

might be the area where the bronze dragon shrine is now

#

like - before it was that shrine

uncut vault
#

Nah its the crystal vice, its just missing the dragon bone cavern and the path of the titans

dense plover
#

then yeah, it might be in the past with chromie

#

the chromie scenario step hasnt been implemented

#

so maybe it will be this build

#

wonder if servers are gonna come back up at all

ionic terrace
#

Get the feeling no Nazjatar this week, not really anything added for it

#

More Mechagon stuff

uncut vault
#

VO for it is being added

#

thalyssra just got seven minutes worth

#

jaina and shandris seem to be on their way

ionic terrace
#

We'll see

#

If the servers ever come back 😛

mystic heart
#

jaina not

#

in this build

dense plover
#

not to mention nazjatar is pretty polished on a zone level

uncut vault
#

seems to be

ionic terrace
#

I sure hope it comes but yea

tropic trail
#

@ionic terrace the servers dont want to come back up because if they do you will get Pathfinder Part 2

mystic heart
#

yea but they're empty

ionic terrace
#

Lol

#

Nah you need the Nazjatar rep too haha

tropic trail
#

what if Nazjatar opens today

#

:p

dense plover
#

ooo, benthic seems like it might be a test for changing some stuff wtih warforging/titanforging

mystic heart
daring dune
#

Thalyssra :"An illusion!"
Me:😄

tulip sun
#

Lol, ya

upper remnant
#

Still not up 😦

tropic trail
#

its probably going to be up in 30min or so

dense plover
#

idk

#

its taking a while

ionic terrace
#

they might just leave it down

#

until tomorrow

dense plover
#

why put out the build then

#

it seems weird

#

we have had later builds

ionic terrace
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dense plover
#

my guess is since its a larger build - 3.2gb - its just taking time to propogate to all of the servers

ionic terrace
#

I'll give it to 8pm

#

yea

mystic heart
#

Ping me when it's up pls

dense plover
#

if it is

ionic terrace
#

up{

#

@dense plover @mystic heart

dense plover
#

yep

mystic heart
#

Lol

#

Thanks

ionic terrace
#

Nice mechagon loading screen monkaS

gloomy solar
#

what does it mean

ionic terrace
#

Nope no nazj

dense plover
#

mechagon spider mount makes sound when walking

upper remnant
#

NAzjatar

#

i am in

dense plover
#

?

#

dont think so....

upper remnant
#

talk to the monkey in boraalus

ionic terrace
#

what

ionic terrace
#

lmoa

#

Oh i'm so happy to be wrong

dense plover
#

where for horde?

#

by boat

upper remnant
#

dunno

dense plover
#

NAZJATAR BOIS

tulip sun
#

Naz is up?!

#

WHOOO

ionic terrace
#

POG

uncut vault
#

looks like theyre not testing the starting scenario/quests

gloomy solar
#

its not on the world map

#

i cry

dense plover
ionic terrace
#

POG

dense plover
mystic heart
#

No baine scenario?

ionic terrace
#

female tauren poggies

dense plover
#

think it is

mystic heart
#

Where?

dense plover
meager zodiac
#

awesome

pulsar iris
#

it was in some broadcast text before confirming that azshara has the tidestone

dense plover
#

seems like lots of pvp stuff

#

in general, seems like this is going to be the hub

whole cedar
#

where is the dread pirate in dazaralor?

pulsar iris
#

world map shows nazjatar?

dense plover
#

no

ionic terrace
#

by the war table boat

dense plover
#

and by the war camp[aign ship

#

also they have voice audio

#

some of the gilblin have on click audiop

#

click the conch

#

then you can choose

#

left is for dps/sneak

#

middle is dps/heals

#

right is tank

uncut vault
#

all gilgoblins 😦

#

I was hoping for a makrura

dense plover
tulip sun
#

Champion of Gral? 😮

dense plover
#

so you empower a benthic item to 400

uncut vault
#

both sides have one

#

Ankoans have a farseer, their clan seems to have relation to gral

dense plover
#

then can increase it slowly by 5 or quickly by 15 to a max of 430

#

quick and slow method cost the same total

#

benthic items are 385

whole cedar
#

this zone is gooorgeous

tropic trail
#

@whole cedar get a bodyguard :p

whole cedar
#

i'm just exploring for now

gloomy solar
#

this stuff is amazing im hozi if you've seen me btw

tropic trail
#

Coral Forest is so cool

dense plover
whole cedar
uncut vault
#

reminder to look at your HoA, and go to the heart chamber to fix it

tropic trail
#

there are some Phatom Nightsabers that look so cool

#

Phantom*

uncut vault
#

you have to activate the stamina trait now

gloomy solar
#

this zone is def flying friendly

whole cedar
dense plover
#

oh man

#

the bodyguards have voice lines for npcs during quests

whole cedar
#

I havent gotten one yet hehe

#

just running around and killing rares and finding fun stuff

dense plover
#

theyre at the starter base

#

for horde its a conch

#

btw dont step on the crab eggs

#

you piss off the hermit crabs

whole cedar
#

havent seen any yet, thanks though

dense plover
gloomy solar
#

so i found the world boss

tropic trail
#

so there is a portal to Nazjatar on Boralus' portal room

dense plover
#

this quest is voiced

tulip sun
#

So Neri founded the unshackled...

daring dune
#

Where I can start the quest to go in nazjatar??

gloomy solar
#

there isn't really a quest yet

dense plover
#

not a quest

#

just talk to the undead monkey

#

also i love these bodyguards

#

they talk all the time

gloomy solar
#

also Neryssa is it me or does it say there is a flight path right here

tulip sun
#

Awesome

dense plover
#

like in response to what you do

tropic trail
#

war campaign is also up?

whole cedar
#

no

uncut vault
#

Yes, it is

whole cedar
#

is it? there was no quest in boralus

uncut vault
#

its on jaina or lorthemar

#

in nazjatar

whole cedar
#

ah

tropic trail
#

nice WoD loading screen for the scenario

tulip sun
#

So Ankoan have a bunch of different clans

dense plover
tulip sun
#

Some nto in Nazjatar

#

not(

uncut vault
#

Yeah, only one of them was wiped out

#

not all of them, it seems

meager zodiac
#

those gazeebos are lovely

uncut vault
#

is the ability to inform nathanos not there for anyone else?

#

or is it his nazjatar NPC

#

new wing of the portal room in org

meager zodiac
#

uhhh

#

i wonder who will be maintaining the portals

tulip sun
#

I imagine just extra for when we need em

uncut vault
#

it doesnt work yet anyways

#

so I imagine it isnt finished

meager zodiac
#

ah okay

tulip sun
#

Who holds the portals open

uncut vault
#

nobody yet, like I said, it isnt finished

#

still says "portaldoodadcavernsoftime"

tulip sun
#

Ah, ok.

upper remnant
#

the water wall is magnificent

dense plover
#

be warned

#

voltscale sounds ignore volume settings

uncut vault
#

jes tereth and tattersail also have quests

#

sends you into nazjatar

dense plover
meager zodiac
#

holy moly this is some amazing work

dense plover
#

how did you get that?

meager zodiac
#

can we do a patreon for the art team?

dense plover
meager zodiac
#

they are gonna need to pay all those bills

#

from treating their back, injured from carrying wow on their backs

uncut vault
#

yeah, cant find nathanos anywhere

meager zodiac
#

wasnt he meant to be in the boat?

uncut vault
#

is there any place he might be besides the boat?

#

hes there, NPC doesnt work

#

trying to do the loyalist stuff

upper remnant
#

@meager zodiac I think he is going on his own mission

#

so the alliance scenario is testable

tulip sun
#

We get Jes-tereth and Taytersail as champions

uncut vault
#

horde's is too

meager zodiac
#

if anyone sees my gurl tuhrandu, let me know

uncut vault
#

just not loyalist stuff

upper remnant
#

oh okay

#

@meager zodiac I am looking for here everywhere, I went in the temple of Elune and only saw Shandris

meager zodiac
#

ah that sucks

#

mh

#

its weird, both her and the birb in 8.2 npc database

upper remnant
#

@meager zodiac I bet she is just a standing npc for a thing like giving the boat to Anduin in the Kul'Tiran intro

foggy abyss
#

What

meager zodiac
#

@upper remnant nah, malfurion isnt in at all, neither is umbric i checked, and dorithur is not on the boat

upper remnant
#

@meager zodiac I mean something similar, I just whish to see her to but just a npc isn't much

foggy abyss
#

Where can you get to Nazjatar

#

From the Great Seal, Orgrimmar ?

dense plover
#

so ashvane is making weapons for the naga

#

but we dont know how she joined them

foggy abyss
#

nvm got it

tropic trail
#

scenario took me like 20min to do..

foggy abyss
#

Yeah ?

#

what did you expect friend

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an hour ?

tropic trail
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no

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i thought it was going to be faster

foggy abyss
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20 minutes seems fair for a Scenario

tropic trail
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yup

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some Elites are hard to kill

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but it was a fun scenario..

unborn glacier
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Traitor or Loyalist?

tropic trail
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im Alliance

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:P

unborn glacier
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Ah, then it doesnt matter

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lol

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uwu

dense plover
pulsar iris
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i don't like the idea, but we can assume sylvanas was working with azshara right? because she asks us to free ashvane, and then only the two of them talk in secrecy

dense plover
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what?

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no

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thats not

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i think sylvanas wanted weapons