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i dont think the test is helping us
nzoth wants to take over azeroth to make a void titan - thats the objective of all of the old gods
the designers could go all out,make one boss entirely soak mechanics,one entirely add mechanics,one entirely tankswaps based,one movement based etc etc,1 for each "archetype" of raid mechanic
e.e
I'd rather Nzoth be next xpac. This build up for just a raid to defeat him, would be anticlimactic. I'd rather our actions fully release him and the next xpac we have to deal with that consequence
thats what we are saying
inb4 we lose the expac(turnaround from every other expac including legion)
and nzoth does some kool reset
and thats segway into wow 2,which is clearly not going to happen
but it's the most likely way to happen
not a chance
the way i see this going is, assuming we dont fight nzoth this expac, is we get a black empire expac
well,blizz need to renovate the engine at some point
the expac quality is already really high
"but bfa is shit" is what you were going to say @unborn glacier
???
you said you want better quality expacs
No, it has some serious design flaws
the quality is really high,what bfa is lacking in,is incentive
these are the best quality expacs
do you think people would go to work everyday if they werent paid?
same deal here
you have no incentive to engage with the content
and azerite armor doesnt do it any favors
well, hopefully 8.2 fixes that
azerite armor is essentially becoming a free bonus set of talents
and then we get the neckalce with abilities and stuff
the real question is whether theyll use the leveling system to unlock traits in the neck or if youll spend azerite like AP in legion
imo knowing bliz,best case scenario is "reach Xlvl to unlock these choices"
main thing im excited for is new zones b/c new zones mean new WQs, new story, and new npc voices
thats what I expect
which then gets changed in 8.3 because "muh catchup" to get you all the traits in the row
instead of 1
i dont think that will happen
i think this system will be built with that stuff in mind
like how azerite level was built with catchup in mind
@dense plover there is an interview frm the blizzcon, where a dev said that the old gods who we defeated are dead. Then he said, like everything else in the world of warcraft, dead dosnt mean the end
so, if we would fight against them, I could imagine fighting them in the shadowlands
yeah that interview was later corrected tho
it wasnt a lore person giving that, it was a dev
who corrected it?
one of the lore team guys in a post somewhere
need to find it, but im fairly certain
not to mention we go to ulduar at the start of bfa and yogg stuff is sort of going on
the only actually dead old god is yshaarj
b/c the heart was destroyed
no
no we havent
weve been told theyre hard to kill
because the only way to kill them is to destroy their heart
which is nearly impossible
think haymaker could get nerfed?
that will probably be fixed
but its already a 2.5 min cooldown
i dont see much getting changed there
didn't blizz already say it was supposed to be on same DRs as other stuns? or did I simply misread somewhere
Hope we get ptr tomorrow
Dev Q&A thursday https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/live-developer-q-a-ask-questions-here/127817
Very likely to be the 8.2 PTR announcement, and possibly PTR going live right when the Q&A ends.
Join us live on Twitch on Thursday, March 21 as we sit down with Game Director Ion Hazzikostas for our next live developer Q&A, where he’ll be answering your Battle for Azeroth questions. Submit your questions by posting here in this forum thread or via Twitter using the h...
My guess is they go over the changes to the azerite system
Or at least some preliminary stuff
Maybe with some graphics hopefully
I also agree with having expectations of the PTR after that QA concludes.
They could put it up tomorrow and not bring up the servers until after
So while datamining would begin, would need to wait to actually get in game
Or just could just put it up tomorrow /shrug
They usually put build one out at the end of the week to get weekend testing
8.1 and 8.1.5 first builds were on Thursday/Friday
I'm interested in how the bodyguard thing works out
Probably similar to WoD, but more involved in the zone story
Yeah, hopefully a more involved WoD system
That they carry over into 9.0
Something like companions in other games, I guess
I suppose that's a pipe dream for now though, haha
I am being optimistic for it coming this week
I'm not
I bet Ion will say: PTR next week probably
Think I found Nazjatar stuff. https://www.wowhead.com/item=167738/gilded-seaweave
oh the toys that were datamined a few months ago..
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@dense plover Thanks! 😄 @keen zephyr Could you not post links/video unrelated to the WoW PTR/Spoliers please, redirect that to #no-wow-discussion 😄
hopefully ion tells the date
I wonder if they'll ever remake Alterac Valley.
Honestly I think they should cause current AV is not that fun
if they ever remake Alterac Valley that would be amazing..
they wouldnt remake it in that regard, jhock
the remakes we're getting atm are all visual
Oh I read that post and thought of the other kind of rework lol
Nicer looking AV would be cool. Maybe even give the adds there updated models
To add to my hunter’s collection
I wonder what the next heritage armor will be after Tauren and Gnomes
I'd love Night elves and Forsaken
Well, they got armor in the warfronts
That's a cop out
Don't expect those two in a long while
Orks and Humans would be cool too. Explore the humans Vyrkul origin
I want Pandaren heritage armor 😩 👌
I think we will probably see Trolls and Night Elves
This is a good time
We are getting Nazjatar which is on the ruins of the old elven capital
And trolls have the whole Voljin thing going on
Tbh, I’m more focused on whether we will get another farfront
Warfront
I want one. I like them
There is never enough troll things !
^
@jade basalt When does the stream go up?
I know it starts at 2
I just wanna be dere
I wonder when 8.2 comes ...how will we get the bee...mount being exalted with Storms wake sounds like it since you find bees there.
well that'd be dumb since it'd be alliance only
hm...what do you think they would have you do to get it?
Tied to some achievement maybe?
Oh 😮
kill over....1k bees lol
Gotta say hope to see what the Under water place has to offer in mounts
@terse patrol 10 minutes
OH
Cool. Another boring Q&A.
These are some of the most controversial topics people have been complaining about lately, they're very good questions, and the answers aren't bad. But it depends what you care about, if you're looking for lore questions or 8.2 info, it might be boring, but the Q&A is obviously about BFA gameplay, so it's very relevant.
I was just hoping they'd announce the PTR/
Maybe at the end? They did it before I think
might come later, yeah.

😮
;0
Yay they want to make allied race unlocks repeatable. A blessing for Wowpedia.
I dind't know you couldn't do them once you unlock them
Possible level squish
remembers getting to 120
They listened about the portal situation, and they're adding back the Caverns of Time portal, and maybe more in the future.
They are also adding a Naked Chest option, one of the most requested transmog features lol.
More customization in the near future.
They're okay with making allied race unlock scenarios to be made repeatable.
So far it's a pretty good q&a
*Haste lowered from 40% to 3%
minor correction on the customization part, they WANT to do more, they just gotta figure out what they can make work with how their engine and game works
True, true. Really glad they want to give us more customization. It shows they're not only aware of the problem, but also recognize it and want to remedy it.
Just need to figure out how/when.
I really wanna hear more about that later on, though
imo about this current question, just add more content that requires people, while letting people also have stuff they can do solo with somewhat ease
"somewhat ease" as in, it's not group-scale content, but still challenging for a single player (kinda like rares at the beginning of BfA)
rp in classic
Huh they're thinking of RP in Classic, nice
Any mention of ptr/8.2 yet?
Nop
K
I'll ping if they mention it
Thanks
@uncut vault great question 🎉
Ion is so sassy today lmao
Repair costs question, another highly popular complaint
I'd have kind of liked some discount on repair costs depending on your Reputation level, similar to cost of items from vendors depending on Reputation level.
i liked how they said we will be able to hide chest, but they didn't said anything about wrist/hands
Battle of Dazar'alor being harder for Melee comps is also a popular complaint
Thal'kiel content, pog
basically

thal'kiel will break sargeras off his prison and return of the burning legion incoming /s
but srsly i want so badly to hide wrist/hand slots with transmog
I thought making a golem was more difficult
Woah
So no ptr mention?
Wonder what that image with the mechagon vault was about
Maybe it means we get a build soon
And it will be a surprise?
It’s not that unusual
I believe they said they'd talk about rise of azshaara stuff soon, but not ready yet (at start of Q&A)
Q&A is over?
We might still get the ptr patch
Thursday Friday for first patch has been common this expac
Hunters get their wolf back and spriests their dagger but my epic staff is not returning?!
Poor Aluneth
I'm going to hope the staff returns when Medivh becomes relevant again
Medivh is only really relevant to Legion stuff. I couldn't see him playing any part in Void themed stuff or faction war
And the only time he appeared was in Return to Karazhan
Actually, when Khadgar asked him to help us against the Legion, Medivh replied that his path leads elsewhere. So if he didn't feel like fighting the Legion, they very well could have him fight the Void. Of course he was put on a bus, so who knows when we'll see him again.
I wonder if the caverns of time portal being added means we're already going to get the extra wings of the portal rooms
There could be more added yeah
It’ll be awkwrd if its just a tiny mage portal in the middle of all those big nice portals
medivh did show up for a faction war (wc3) but only because of the burning legion
Any news on when will hide everything option comes live?
no news,we know hide chest is 8.2 and thats it
Meh. Hoped it would come faster
i think they will probably make it all into 8.2
And 8.2 is still long way to come
PTR HURRAH UP
It’s not gonna happen now, it’s the weekend
something interesting I found when looking through the artifact book on my KT shaman
remember how muffinus' reaction to the azshara pic was "fire"?
she does seem to destroy things only for them to rise up again
@uncut vault Blood of azeroth and the burning of Teldrassil. inb4 Sylvanas was mind controlled. Or worse, Sylvanas is working with Azshara.
Undead are immune to void corruption
Nah
Sylvanas has logic behind her actions
Pretty obvious logic honestly
In character too
Burning didn’t work because Saurfang refused to finish off Malf
After that, it all went downhill
What reason did she have for leaving us on Tol Dagor?
lol
Does it still leave you? I thought that was fixed
Or like, did they give an explanation
I don’t remember
I don't think so
Only done the quest once, never bothered to repeat on alts
did she hurt your feelings? 😢
rudevanas
I mean, we’re with a mage, and negotiations with an important leader don’t really need to involve someone like rexxar or us
That’s fair
Pray for PTR tomorrow
Hopefully
Anyone know if Selis’s Silk Shirt was actually added to 8.1.5 because it just says vendor and there’s no other info on it
It’s a vendor during the free T-shirt thingy
Ahhhh ty
PTR is now 8.2.0?
@balmy ingot nope
@balmy ingot there will be a post in latest news and tons of chat here. You’ll know when it happens
Hopefully today or later this week

Yessss
Every time I see a new wowhead post 
We likely won't see it go live on the PTR until the new raid opens up.
scream
I don't believe the 77 cycle thing.
That's why I think it won't be out until Crucible goes live
I don't think we will see 8.2 on live until July at the earliest
That’s too long
They said they want 5-6 months between raids
June is the latest for raid release
With patch probably 2-4 weeks before
Yuppp
Getting the feeling not today 
Next week is most likely, but it’s only 230pst
If servers don’t go down by 5PST, then it is likely not happening
The Azshara raid is likely going live in July, not the patch itself
Assuming the season length is the same as season 1, it will come out July 16th
^
Patch is likely to be around a month before
Maybe more with the addition of the mega dungeon
Either way, they have a lot of content to test
And it’s probably not coming today
Still a chance later this week
There’s always a chance until it happens
Not unusual
Ptr is currently in maintenance
Those are generally the only 2 servers that stay up until a major update
👌
whyy @mystic heart
i'm not prepared 😄

TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT EVERYBODY GET HYPE
I WILL EXPLAIN ONCE IT’S REAL I PROMISE
This was also liked by Muffinus
Includes follow up tweets related to it maybe not happening if something breaks
Chance of PTR went up
Yeah I know
Combined with the 3 down servers, it’s seeming more likely
I just don't want to read into it too much lol
If they’ve been like toggling or coming up and then going down, that’s a good sign
Nothing has headed towards deployment servers tho
dont overhype? DONT OVERHYPE? PTR BUILD HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEE
fingers crossed 😛
That Moment when you have lots more hype for PTR than real game 
i'm hyped to see new things. already done what interested me on live
rip
SHAME >:O
It wasn’t there
And it still doesn’t explain that 3/5 servers are down
It’s unusual
Could be prepping for tomorrow. @dense plover
True I guess
No change then tomorrow is a good bet
Or maybe Friday
@ionic terrace are the 3 servers still down?
@dense plover Ya, 3 are down
Pray 😮
right now I'm like Sheldon when he almost didn't get tickets for Star Wars

:thonk:
First builds have come out on Thursday’s and Friday’s as of late
So tomorrow or Friday is still very possible
It could just be server maintenance, but would be awesome if it's preparing for the 8.2 PTR
@modern axle is servers offline?
3/5
if it was server maintance, it wouldnt be those 3
they take them offline so they can stress test a new patch
that way there are only 2 servers
So they may be stress testing?
no no
when ptr goes up
they leave the 2 that are currently up
that way everyone has to choose one of those 2
forcing tougher server conditions
Ohhhh
it helps them find major server problems with a new patch
that is a fair good point you've made Mrpeach, fingers crossed 😛
What if they are getting downgrade for classic ptr
that would be dumb
its way easier to just deploy new servers
b/c you dont have to reconfigure them
"Sooooon" we hope.
Oh good, Anasterian is still up
Hoping it'll be up tomorrow with 8.2 shit 😄
If they are doing it for stress testing, that’s where I have my character with the gift of N’zoth
So I can go into nazjatar with it
remember, nazjatar might not go live with the first update
like how broken shore wasnt technically open for 2-3 weeks
tho some of us were able to walk there physically
not really a possibility for nazjatar
no no
i mean testing wise
broken shore on ptr didnt go live with first 7.2 ptr
it was like 3 weeks after'
All I care about is the data mining
theres 2 zones, so we might only have mechagon or nazjatar
and we might not even get all of nazjatar at once
like with argus on ptr
where it was finished in pieces and opened in pieces on ptr
I mean, Im more interested in the war campaign anyways lol
I know t hat the actual pvp features I want to test in nazjatar wont be in for many builds
I'm interested in the plot and new models 😄
i want the azerite changes
@uncut vault I think the war campaign is on haitus or over.
but we are getting character stories
lore keeps me playing
sylvanas, saurfang, anduin and jaina
this is currently still there on live, post-8.1.5 stuff
they said that the two sides achieve wasnt supposed to be an incentive or a conclusion
just a neat reward for people who have been playing both sides
Yup
Anyone notice that the Hand Of Valor that lies on the other side likely refers to Uther the Lightbringer? Also did anyone notice that the shades who attack you during the Vol’jin questline are composed of necromantic magic which we see Necromancers use during island Expeditions?
I wonder if there was a famous necromancer who opposed Uther... oh yeah! Kel’thuzad!
the uther thing seems like a stretch
theres a lot of death stuff this xpac, the person behind voljin will likely be a new character
^
they arent going to literally redo wc3
thats lazy
also, when you need to introduce new characters, you dont fall back to old ones
thats how you ruin your opportunities
Sadly people are too imbecile, if blizzard creates a new character they will at least be like "did they asspulled a random?"
But they did revamp Uther’s Tomb and literally say that a “Hand Of Valor” who lies on the “Other Side” (dead) was the one who raised Vol’jin. Also, Vol’jin is glowing with holy light.
I still think it might be Tyr who did it.
Tyr does have some motive, but sadly I feel Blizzard doesn’t remember that he even exists
uthers tomb was confirmed to not be specifically for any lore thing
just a passion project left over from legion
Ughhhhhhh
however, similar to taelia, the lore team could pick it up, but its existence doesnt confirm anything
I want more lightforged demons
that was my main disappointment with argus, honestly
one high elf, one human, one ligthforged demon
I plan to create an OC lightforged demon to use
adn the rest of the AotL is just draenei
I head canon there are other nondraenei
Just on the ship we never explored
That lothracion arrives at the priest base in
Why ppl even thinking that it could be Uther? As far as I know, he is just a dead dude and never had any godlike powers
Uther was Arthas' mentor
And the leader of the Knights of the Silver hand
right
just a human paladin
who is not even close to Eyirs powers. And she said, that not even she could bring Voljin back
Soo anyone else think Violin may be a Loa?
I was assuming that nzoth was the one holding him back from achieving full loa-ship
As for the whispers, i was thinking maybe they were his own from later on after he became a loa? Total speculation and would LOVE for someone to come up with something else cause this doesn't really make 100% sense
I speculate that Mue'Zela was who whisperd him to make Sylv warchief and Odin the one who brought him back
but I feel like, blizz will go the simple way and Nzoth whispered Voljin to make her warchief
Mue'zela? Someone i need to look up!!!!!
a being from the shadowlands. maybe the boss of Bwonsamdi
its a Loa of Death for the Trolls
or wait, actually idk if Mue zela is a loa. but he is a big thing in the shadowlands
Would make sense without looking him up. Voljin did spend lots of time in the shadowlands if i remember right
Except that Eyir seemed to imp,y that it was someone from the light who brought voljin back
He is infused with light, not death
Mueh’zala will likely have his story resolved within the traveler series
They’re not going to have the big bad of not only BfA, but likely the next xpac as well, be spoiled in a children’s story
^
Did she say it was someone infused with light?
Ahhh i need to go do the quests again
@uncut vault @dense plover Think we might get lucky today?
Hope so
Pay attention around 11PST
That’s when stuff usually happens
But it can happen as late as 4-5PST
Get lucky for what? I'm nosey I'm sorry
8.2 is on ptr?
no no
ohh i feel it in the air
totally your fault
Nope
Not taking blame for discord not loading stuff
Hope patch is coming tho - I want to see it
I blame Kham for not reading
i blame blizzard for not letting us have new build
new build or riot!!!
I blame peach because he got me excited yesterday too e.e
Sooo just been reading flying should be in 8.2 do we have any blue posts confirming this
Its true
Omg
but with
And there should be flying in nazjatar and mechagon too 😉
the archiev
I'm okay with the achievement. Account wide flying is worth it to me
same
One of the two most likely
so 3 servers is down
would be good to have flight for the rep grind fest
💤
@dense plover No sign yet of a PTR today?
not unless all 5 servers are down
looking likely
we just got a muffinus weird tweet
chance went up about 20%
we are sitting at a solid 40% chance probably
just deleted
chance now 50%
Parameter Terminated....Readjusting to data
PTR
that seems too coincidental tbh
Sounds Mechagony maybe. 👀 @dense plover
im not sure, he seems to be always at our side when it comes to teasing.. maybe he deleted it because he don't want to make false hope
thats a decent guess
assuming it wasnt deleted because it was actually a mistake
i doubt it was tho
its only 2pm there
so theres a good amount of time
@ionic terrace is there a way to check the server status from my browser?
It kinda sounds like somthing MOTHER would say
I can log on and look at PTR realms if you want Peach
More than gnomey
the issue is, if they go down, you wont see unless you log in and out
ah that is true
ping me if anything changes
The hour
har her har her
seriously tho
Ping me if they ping you with something relevant, MrPeach. :P I'd say I have various bets riding on this patch and am anxious for the results, but that would be hyperbole.
@dense plover Nothing major but the two online servers are both full population now 
its happened on friday before
so maybe
unless they’re holding off for tuesday for some weird reason
With that tweet, total conspiracy theory beyond the PTR initials
Say the words to data out loud without the ‘ta’ at the end
😛
But being deleted probably means tomorrow, IMO
Thought it was coming today, something technical got in the way
Someone inadvertently deleted 8.2
or he was trolling
muffinus has done the whole - tweet and delete right before a patch
but at this point its probably too late
so tomorrow isnt ridiculous
I doubt we're gonna get PTR this week
They don't drop big PTR clients on Fridays, it's too late for today at this point, and the Q&A said a "couple of weeks" or something to that effect
and that was last week
yeah lots of big ptr patches dropped on thursday/friday
Big as in the first one?
First builds typically do, because they get feedback from the weekend
Most PTR feedback comes from week one, so having a weekend for it works out well
big as in first one, yes
why wouldn't they release on friday? it's not like they're releasing it live and need to fix any bugs immediately
I know I'd personally take that approach for a test realm. Let things explode as bad as they can, then check the results after the weekend, lol. Just gotta take that one day to make sure it actually stays up for a while.
i blame peach if no build today
^
🍑
because you're a lovely slime, and so i blame you
n-nani?!
If it isn't today we riot against peach's dictatorship
But I’m not a dictator
That doesn’t even make sense
That’s like saying “Tonight, we ride!” And then you walk
oh my
I do no such thing
@dense plover 👀
we getting ptr today?
weird that the two still up are shown as full
you know, to make it easy, Im just gonna keep a character online on the PTR
and see if they get DCed lol
Best way to check
Just have them stand there
Maybe pick a low lag area like voldun
Any news on when to expect 8.2 PTR?
The real BFA launch
I thought 8.1 was the real bfa launch
Next time 9.0 is going to be the real launch
nah, it was never really touted as that, by blizz or the playerbase
.2 has always been the hit or miss of xpacs

MoP and Legion also had what were considered mediocre launches, not nearly as bad as Legion opinions, but the .2 was what turned opinions around, in general
Please be today, I need my dose
Plsssss
Still lots of time if it’s going to happen
I didnt know PTR was a drug that came in doses 🤔
Ripperoni
What?
no 2day
Maybe we'll get in a week or two who knows, we can only hope 😄
I’m just confused why Muffinus is trolling
He responded to MrGM with a photoshopped tweet
With weird capitalization
The Zandalari Troll moonkin form dance is something we're working on. We don't have an exact timeframe for it, but rest assured: we have not forgotten it. https://t.co/rTZbqgKcA0
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well I bet some people are going to get mad on monday, when we get those april fools jokes before we get some ptr news
I'm not expecting the PTR update before a damn while
good chart from Signs of Kelani on youtube
take into account that 8.1.5 release was just after the christmas break, and 8.1 was waiting after the xpac launch
It's as if PTR wasn't far away 🤔
New islands, warfronts, and customization confirmed
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/3/29/18284833/battle-for-azeroth-endgame-patch-8-2
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Martens confirms new islands will be coming, even after the two new additions in the upcoming 8.2 patch, Rise of Azshara -
Rise of Azshara will be a massive content drop and overhaul of Battle for Azeroth as we know it, but it’s also an opportunity to take the lessons learned from Battle for Azeroth’s launch. The existing systems that work will carry forward into Rise of Azshara. -
“We’re mid-evolution [on World Quests],” says Martens. “We’re trying to push them in new directions in Rise of Azshara in particular. With Incursions, that was a way of packaging world quests in a region and giving them an appropriate, exciting theme. Moving forward, you’ll see world quests in new zones be geared towards those new zones.“ "Now, World Quests are avenues for new things,” he says. We’ll see new twists on World Quests in both Mechagon and Nazjatar. -
"In addition, the team is looking at rewards that go beyond just gear. “We’re looking at new customization options, not just in world quests and progression, but beyond that,” Martens says. Recently, it was announced that there will be additional transmog options for players to hide gear. Darkshore quests unlocked a Night Elf customization option with black eyes.
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Rise of Azshara will also create a new baseline of content. With the current warfronts, Martens says the team was pursuing the right pace of content. “A push and pull you have with repeatable systems and reward content is how often should it happen,” he says. “If it’s fun, but constant, it can be boring. If it’s fun, but rare, that’s frustrating. Warfronts were always planned to have the cadence they have now.” -
There will be additional warfronts in Battle for Azeroth, and the rewards to the existing one will likely be tuned and changed. We’ll also see lore characters continue to show up in these encounters. “Having characters in the encounters build connections with enemies, which can be as important as building relationships with allies.”
(Beyond 8.2)
nice, I can see a Warfront happen in Nazjatar
I doubt that, as their conversation around it talks about loving kalimdor and eastern kingdoms especially
Who will give the quests for Gnome and Tauren heritage armor?
With Mekkatorque "dead" and Baine imprisoned
My guesses are Oglethorpe and Hamuul.
tinkmaster overspark is more likely for gnomes
as we know itll involve ships, hes the most well established gnome-based gnome outside of Mekkatorque
even has a VA
I think it'll be a revived cyborg Mekkatorque or Kelsey Steelspark
Kelsey is the only real replacement for Mekkatorque anyways.
No other gnome has the screen time.
like I said, Overspark definitely does, he shows up in MoP as Mekkatorque's envoy, and is the secondary alliance character in Stormheim, with a VA, unlike Kelsey
he also has a lot more background in tinkering and building stuff, which we know is the general focus for the questline
Kelsey just likes robots, doesnt have the skills to build them
Interested in the WQ stuff - the system was largely unchanged from Legion > BFA and could use a lot of work
Yeah, I like the incursions, but think the end quests could use variety, so I hope that the whole progressive world quest thing takes that into account
yeah the idea of WQs having phases sounds great
Sounds a bit like GW2 Living World
Well those are the elite wq mobs, there weren't that many regular elite wq before argus
they were boring
they were just hard WQs
the new naga wqs sort of do that
what they want to do are multistep wqs
where you do a thing and then the next part happens and stuff changes or you move somewhere else
like some of the events in destiny
or the living world stuff sort of
choose-your-own-adventure multistep wq
unlikely to be that
i think its more like the destiny stuff
where you do part 1 then part 2 occurs and it might require you to go somewhere else, or the environment might change
like with islands and waves of enemies
that kind of thing
They also said we will get the companion/bodyguard walking around with us and also hbving the impact on the wq smxstem
All that stuff sound rly promising, i cant wait
that companion thing will probably be similiar to the Legion one
More or less advanced yea
@dense plover Is Blizzard not at Pax East this year?
not to mention hearthstone is in reveal season
probably 8.3
and maybe a trailer for 9.0
I think this coming week will be PTR week.
depends on if we know the outcome of 8.3 by blizzcon or not
I was pissed when they announced BfA
gamescom is guaranteed to be 8.3 tho
I think it'll be a bit like Isle of Thunder
but instead of just choosing the first quest, you do a world quest
and that opens up more
I fully expect a 9.0 reveal
at gamescom? definitely not
BfA is behind the cycle compared to Legion
and may even have patches beyond 8.3
9.0 is blizzcon at earliest
And honestly, I kinda hope they continue the 8.1 approach to raids
it would fix the spoilers at blizzcon issue
with the raid releasing not in the .5 patch, but halfway between the base patch and the .5
because if they don't announce 9,0 at Blizzcon...they'll have to do a stream or something
Not as exciting
Not as exciting, but definitely more accessible
as info beyond the opening ceremony wont need to be gleaned from wowhead by non-paying viewers
I suppose
it likely will be announced at blizzcon anyways though
this blizzcon really needs to be good for blizzard
like, desperately
Would 8.3 be released or hinted at by then?
released, probably
Ok, so spoilers shouldn't be a problem
the raid being released depends on what I was talking about
because the patch itself isnt the big spoiler, the xpac ending is
I have to say though, I feel like this expansion could go many more patches simply for storyl.
if they decide to release the rest of the xpac raids in .5 patches similar to Legion, Im not even sure the raid will be out before blizzcon
so I hope they continue the Battle of Dazaralor/season 2 trend
and unlike Legion, I would wager the end of the 8.3 raid will be far more vital to the next xpac than the antorus ending was to BfA
BfA's premise doesnt hinge on the sword, its just the catalyst
I'd bet 9.0's premise will involve whatever happens to nzoth and sylvanas rather intensely
Ya.
I honestly don't know what could happemn
I don't expect Sylvanas to die or turn villain(at least to the Horde)
Neither do I, but at this point I am not even sure what theyre gonna do with the faction war
they could go the predictable boring route that it seems on surface, or something more interesting
The faction war seems far from over..
It seems like it is ramping up
This is a good expansion for extra patches I think
With the amount of times they've fucked the horde when it comes to faction stuff, I'd love a Horde win that Humbles the Alliance
slightly late: gamescom is mid august
But the horde has only been fucked by this patch
Imagine thinking BFA is the only faction stuff
looking back, 7.3 went onto the ptr in july, but its release date and trailer were announced at gamescom 2017
I can see that happening for 8.3
I look forward to what 8.3 brings us
oh, that reminds me
I cant wait to see the 8.2 key art
Certainly hope azshara is on it
Gamescom will be about 8.3, and BlizzCon will have the 9.0 expansion reveal
Do they have an E3 panel?
no
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@zealous basalt ? also why #beta-ptr-spoilers
Think this can become a mount or not likely.
really?
I think it looks cool if it was a mount but if you think its bad.
Well there were many kinds and Types of Hydra so they both can be cool.
well blizzard can think up anything is what makes me hope they can make anything really.
I mean how is it ruined?
I dont see how either i love anything new wow makes i just hate there RNG its unforgiving
@zinc sandal The design is far worse.
IDK about far worse but I do agree that although I like the new models some things look “cute” when they should look fierce and terrifying, like hydras.
I do hope you don’t mean size, because you showed us Gahz’rilla, a Wild God.
https://www.wow-petopia.com/images/skin_pix/thunderhydra_blue.jpg this is still cool
but yes its different
they no longer have the 2 legged hydra
like, the old one still exists
but there isnt a new equivalent
they cant just stay with old look forever heck i believe they have big plans for Stormwind maybe but i could be wrong.
just picturing what kind of changes they could do to the city what more they could add to it makes it seem better.
4 legs > 2 legs
4 legs good, 2 legs bad
The new one looks dumb.
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I saw that movement of #retail-wow and #beta-ptr-spoilers .. sneaky.
this is the worst kind of april fools joke reee
same, i was really annoyed, really fast lol
It’s not April 1st yet, you almost got me... but the void touched stuff ruined it lol
its not even sort of believable
theres not even any patch relevant content
they couldve at least memed about nazjatar or mechagnomes
yeah but those are the two biggest areas, which means they are going to be in the first build
maybe not playable
but there would be data
The most recent book, Before the Storm introduced the idea of Undead created by the Light, so I had every reason to believe it
joining the alliance?
Possibly
never
they specifically said they dont want recolors on opposite factions
not to mention why would they add multiple sets of new race stuff and not have anything related to the meat of the patch?
they already have recolors on opposite factions though, Void Elves and Blood Elves, Night Elves and Nightborn
all are reskins of one another
lets agree to disagree
thats an objective fact
nightborne and void elves use the same skeleton but have distinct model and hair differences
the ones in the april fools post dont
@dense plover It's more likely light undead would use the human skeleton.
god damnit wowhead. You made the icon with a notification stickerrrrrr
just to clarify one thing, they've had sunday builds before. one of the bfa builds was on mother's day
jolly good time was had by all of us that day
on tuesday before blizzcon we had a 10pm build 😛
would have the meat
nazjatar
mechagon
something
but yes, most people might fall for it
i have like 6 sources that ping me when builds go out
XD
I was super jetlagged on that pre-blizzcon build because I had just arrived in LA... i'm 6 hours ahead of the west coast
so that was great too!
I would guess spending time with your mom
#bringbackbarrenschat
It would really delve into the tauren and their opinions on the war
They have a variety of opinions, as seen with "Ace"
if there is gonna be a new warfront in 8.2 barrens would make sence if you actualy think about it pluss it been in the gamefiles for quite a while now
I’m dreading the number of people that are going to start asking for light undead now, without having a grasp on the lore behind them
its not even thinking of the implications of the race in the alliance for the forsaken
Id LOVE to ser then become a true rhing tbh
They ain't forsaken though right? It's basically like Calia Menethil in Before the Storm
Assuming more of them are risen like that, yes
in which case, I'd be fine with it
but with the likely set-up of derek, theyd probably be existing forsaken, which would ruin most reasons for the forsaken staying Horde
I think Derek would actually be a leader for the Lighttouched Undead, and the lighttouched would all be risen like Calia. Y'know, if this allied race was to happen
So long as he isnt one himself, that'd probably work without mucking up lore
why would the alliance support such a thing?
isnt it basically raising the dead, which they have critized sylvanas for doing?
Because Anduin was the one to do it in the first place
he resurrected calia with Alonsus
it wasn't his idea, he didn't even know what he was doing
And he wasnt against it, he was happy to see Calia alive
I think the difference being, Light Undead would probably not be raised from enemy combatants. Might be wrong.
I could see them raise Scarlet Crusaders though.
And reconverting Forsaken who Sylvanas raised.
@uncut vault It was the Naaru who did it, channeling through Alonsus and Anduin.
the implications of the light basically force rezzing people is equally as horrifying
i kind of hope they do it
As two opposites?
That’s called word association
It’s part of being a good writer
It’s not a direct comparison, but it allows the reader to make an association
Like the human is the dark and forsaken as light
ah new lightbound undead join ally o.o
If they do that I hope Horde gets Undeads with the same model as Nathanos
If Blizzard does actually do it, I’m pretty confident they’ll use the human skeleton and model as a base.
I just hope they adjust how they look.
any ppl idea about who join to horde?
if ligbtbound undead join to Allly then what else horde?
@balmy ingot Keep in mind WoWhead is just posting april fools stuff atm
PTR is not here yet
If lightbound undead for alliance, night elf dark rangers for horde
though, light undead are probably happening anyways.
The ones risen in darkshore
I personally think Vulpera, Sanlayn, or Moknathal.





