#beta-ptr-spoilers

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strange falcon
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like trial of valor

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where he tests us

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to make sure we are ready

dense plover
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i dont think the test is helping us

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nzoth wants to take over azeroth to make a void titan - thats the objective of all of the old gods

strange falcon
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the designers could go all out,make one boss entirely soak mechanics,one entirely add mechanics,one entirely tankswaps based,one movement based etc etc,1 for each "archetype" of raid mechanic

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e.e

unborn glacier
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I'd rather Nzoth be next xpac. This build up for just a raid to defeat him, would be anticlimactic. I'd rather our actions fully release him and the next xpac we have to deal with that consequence

dense plover
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thats what we are saying

unborn glacier
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It'd be so amazing

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I want a Black Empire xpac >~>

dense plover
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me too

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this is really the only time to do this

strange falcon
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inb4 we lose the expac(turnaround from every other expac including legion)

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and nzoth does some kool reset

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and thats segway into wow 2,which is clearly not going to happen

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but it's the most likely way to happen

dense plover
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not a chance

unborn glacier
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I dont want a WoW 2

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I just want better quality xpacs

dense plover
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the way i see this going is, assuming we dont fight nzoth this expac, is we get a black empire expac

strange falcon
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well,blizz need to renovate the engine at some point

dense plover
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the expac quality is already really high

strange falcon
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"but bfa is shit" is what you were going to say @unborn glacier

unborn glacier
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???

dense plover
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you said you want better quality expacs

unborn glacier
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No, it has some serious design flaws

strange falcon
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the quality is really high,what bfa is lacking in,is incentive

dense plover
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these are the best quality expacs

strange falcon
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do you think people would go to work everyday if they werent paid?

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same deal here

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you have no incentive to engage with the content

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and azerite armor doesnt do it any favors

dense plover
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well, hopefully 8.2 fixes that

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azerite armor is essentially becoming a free bonus set of talents

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and then we get the neckalce with abilities and stuff

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the real question is whether theyll use the leveling system to unlock traits in the neck or if youll spend azerite like AP in legion

strange falcon
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imo knowing bliz,best case scenario is "reach Xlvl to unlock these choices"

dense plover
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main thing im excited for is new zones b/c new zones mean new WQs, new story, and new npc voices

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thats what I expect

strange falcon
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which then gets changed in 8.3 because "muh catchup" to get you all the traits in the row

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instead of 1

dense plover
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i dont think that will happen

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i think this system will be built with that stuff in mind

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like how azerite level was built with catchup in mind

tropic trail
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@dense plover there is an interview frm the blizzcon, where a dev said that the old gods who we defeated are dead. Then he said, like everything else in the world of warcraft, dead dosnt mean the end

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so, if we would fight against them, I could imagine fighting them in the shadowlands

dense plover
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yeah that interview was later corrected tho

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it wasnt a lore person giving that, it was a dev

tropic trail
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who corrected it?

dense plover
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one of the lore team guys in a post somewhere

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need to find it, but im fairly certain

tropic trail
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oh ok

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didnt know that

dense plover
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not to mention we go to ulduar at the start of bfa and yogg stuff is sort of going on

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the only actually dead old god is yshaarj

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b/c the heart was destroyed

unborn glacier
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Yet, we've been thold the Old Gods are beyond the cycle of life and death

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told*

dense plover
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no

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no we havent

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weve been told theyre hard to kill

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because the only way to kill them is to destroy their heart

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which is nearly impossible

zealous basalt
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think haymaker could get nerfed?

tropic trail
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I hope it doesn't

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Super helpful right now to be rid of the gankers

night swift
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Its kinda broke with rogues

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It ignores the stun drs on them

dense plover
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that will probably be fixed

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but its already a 2.5 min cooldown

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i dont see much getting changed there

tranquil steeple
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didn't blizz already say it was supposed to be on same DRs as other stuns? or did I simply misread somewhere

terse patrol
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Hope we get ptr tomorrow

umbral lake
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I doubt it but I also wish for it

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Can’t wait to get the first view of 8.2

jade basalt
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Dev Q&A thursday https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/live-developer-q-a-ask-questions-here/127817

Very likely to be the 8.2 PTR announcement, and possibly PTR going live right when the Q&A ends.

tropic trail
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Praise the void!

dense plover
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My guess is they go over the changes to the azerite system

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Or at least some preliminary stuff

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Maybe with some graphics hopefully

sour burrow
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I also agree with having expectations of the PTR after that QA concludes.

dense plover
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Don’t think it will be immediately after

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Probably Tuesday

ionic terrace
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They could put it up tomorrow and not bring up the servers until after

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So while datamining would begin, would need to wait to actually get in game

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Or just could just put it up tomorrow /shrug

uncut vault
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They usually put build one out at the end of the week to get weekend testing

ionic terrace
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I just realized I said the same thing twice, oops

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But yeah, soon™

uncut vault
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8.1 and 8.1.5 first builds were on Thursday/Friday

ionic terrace
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I'm interested in how the bodyguard thing works out

uncut vault
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Probably similar to WoD, but more involved in the zone story

ionic terrace
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Yeah, hopefully a more involved WoD system

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That they carry over into 9.0

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Something like companions in other games, I guess

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I suppose that's a pipe dream for now though, haha

tulip sun
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I am being optimistic for it coming this week

tropic trail
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I'm not

storm marsh
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I bet Ion will say: PTR next week probably

jade basalt
dense plover
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Guess an item snuck through

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Too bad it tells us almost nothing

tropic trail
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oh the toys that were datamined a few months ago..

dense plover
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<@&299347348847329281>

modern axle
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@dense plover Thanks! 😄 @keen zephyr Could you not post links/video unrelated to the WoW PTR/Spoliers please, redirect that to #no-wow-discussion 😄

flint meteor
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hopefully ion tells the date

terse patrol
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I wonder if they'll ever remake Alterac Valley.

night swift
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Honestly I think they should cause current AV is not that fun

tropic trail
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if they ever remake Alterac Valley that would be amazing..

uncut vault
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they wouldnt remake it in that regard, jhock

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the remakes we're getting atm are all visual

zealous basalt
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Gods

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An AI Alterac Valley

night swift
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Oh I read that post and thought of the other kind of rework lol

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Nicer looking AV would be cool. Maybe even give the adds there updated models

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To add to my hunter’s collection

unborn glacier
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I wonder what the next heritage armor will be after Tauren and Gnomes

terse patrol
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I suspect worgen and goblins

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Due to the new models

unborn glacier
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I'd love Night elves and Forsaken

terse patrol
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Well, they got armor in the warfronts

unborn glacier
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That's a cop out

zinc sandal
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Don't expect those two in a long while

unborn glacier
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Orks and Humans would be cool too. Explore the humans Vyrkul origin

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I want Pandaren heritage armor 😩 👌

dense plover
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I think we will probably see Trolls and Night Elves

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This is a good time

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We are getting Nazjatar which is on the ruins of the old elven capital

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And trolls have the whole Voljin thing going on

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Tbh, I’m more focused on whether we will get another farfront

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Warfront

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I want one. I like them

terse patrol
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eh

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Too many troll things.

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But whatevs

jade basalt
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There is never enough troll things !

zinc sandal
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^

terse patrol
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@jade basalt When does the stream go up?

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I know it starts at 2

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I just wanna be dere

lucid steeple
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I wonder when 8.2 comes ...how will we get the bee...mount being exalted with Storms wake sounds like it since you find bees there.

limber mural
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well that'd be dumb since it'd be alliance only

lucid steeple
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hm...what do you think they would have you do to get it?

manic horizon
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Tied to some achievement maybe?

lucid steeple
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Oh 😮

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kill over....1k bees lol

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Gotta say hope to see what the Under water place has to offer in mounts

flint meteor
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@terse patrol 10 minutes

jade basalt
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@terse patrol 5 min !

ionic terrace
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oh

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😐

strange falcon
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OH

terse patrol
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Cool. Another boring Q&A.

distant folio
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These are some of the most controversial topics people have been complaining about lately, they're very good questions, and the answers aren't bad. But it depends what you care about, if you're looking for lore questions or 8.2 info, it might be boring, but the Q&A is obviously about BFA gameplay, so it's very relevant.

terse patrol
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I was just hoping they'd announce the PTR/

distant folio
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Maybe at the end? They did it before I think

tranquil steeple
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might come later, yeah.

ionic terrace
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@uncut vault

tranquil steeple
zealous basalt
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😮

terse patrol
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;0

zealous basalt
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what to heck

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Can't they be done by alts?

jade basalt
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Yay they want to make allied race unlocks repeatable. A blessing for Wowpedia.

zealous basalt
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I dind't know you couldn't do them once you unlock them

jade basalt
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Possible level squish

zealous basalt
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remembers getting to 120

distant folio
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They listened about the portal situation, and they're adding back the Caverns of Time portal, and maybe more in the future.
They are also adding a Naked Chest option, one of the most requested transmog features lol.
More customization in the near future.
They're okay with making allied race unlock scenarios to be made repeatable.

So far it's a pretty good q&a

zealous basalt
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*Haste lowered from 40% to 3%

tranquil steeple
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minor correction on the customization part, they WANT to do more, they just gotta figure out what they can make work with how their engine and game works

distant folio
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True, true. Really glad they want to give us more customization. It shows they're not only aware of the problem, but also recognize it and want to remedy it.

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Just need to figure out how/when.

tranquil steeple
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I really wanna hear more about that later on, though

zealous basalt
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Wow

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that was a good question

tranquil steeple
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imo about this current question, just add more content that requires people, while letting people also have stuff they can do solo with somewhat ease

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"somewhat ease" as in, it's not group-scale content, but still challenging for a single player (kinda like rares at the beginning of BfA)

zealous basalt
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rp in classic

distant folio
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Huh they're thinking of RP in Classic, nice

dense plover
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Any mention of ptr/8.2 yet?

distant folio
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Nop

dense plover
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K

tranquil steeple
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I'll ping if they mention it

dense plover
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Thanks

tidal stone
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@uncut vault great question 🎉

distant folio
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Ion is so sassy today lmao

jade basalt
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Repair costs question, another highly popular complaint

tranquil steeple
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I'd have kind of liked some discount on repair costs depending on your Reputation level, similar to cost of items from vendors depending on Reputation level.

pulsar iris
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i liked how they said we will be able to hide chest, but they didn't said anything about wrist/hands

distant folio
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Battle of Dazar'alor being harder for Melee comps is also a popular complaint

zealous basalt
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aha

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OBOI

tranquil steeple
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Thal'kiel content, pog

zealous basalt
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basically

ionic terrace
zealous basalt
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bother some other day

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no ptr

tranquil steeple
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rip

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maybe next time PepeHands

terse patrol
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"few weeks"

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cool

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/sarcasm

pulsar iris
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thal'kiel will break sargeras off his prison and return of the burning legion incoming /s

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but srsly i want so badly to hide wrist/hand slots with transmog

zealous basalt
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I thought making a golem was more difficult

dense plover
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Woah

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So no ptr mention?

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Wonder what that image with the mechagon vault was about

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Maybe it means we get a build soon

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And it will be a surprise?

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It’s not that unusual

modern axle
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I believe they said they'd talk about rise of azshaara stuff soon, but not ready yet (at start of Q&A)

tropic trail
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Q&A is over?

dense plover
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We might still get the ptr patch

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Thursday Friday for first patch has been common this expac

tropic trail
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Hunters get their wolf back and spriests their dagger but my epic staff is not returning?!

night swift
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Poor Aluneth

tropic trail
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I'm going to hope the staff returns when Medivh becomes relevant again

unborn glacier
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Medivh is only really relevant to Legion stuff. I couldn't see him playing any part in Void themed stuff or faction war

tropic trail
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And the only time he appeared was in Return to Karazhan

jade basalt
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Actually, when Khadgar asked him to help us against the Legion, Medivh replied that his path leads elsewhere. So if he didn't feel like fighting the Legion, they very well could have him fight the Void. Of course he was put on a bus, so who knows when we'll see him again.

uncut vault
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I wonder if the caverns of time portal being added means we're already going to get the extra wings of the portal rooms

night swift
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There could be more added yeah

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It’ll be awkwrd if its just a tiny mage portal in the middle of all those big nice portals

muted canopy
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medivh did show up for a faction war (wc3) but only because of the burning legion

ionic terrace
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PTR update monkaS

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Hotfix build FeelsBadMan

zealous basalt
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Guys

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Apparently there is a bug with the Kt forms that they cant chat?

muted canopy
storm marsh
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Im so ready for that ptr build

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Hopefully next tuesday

faint notch
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Any news on when will hide everything option comes live?

strange falcon
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no news,we know hide chest is 8.2 and thats it

faint notch
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Meh. Hoped it would come faster

pulsar iris
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i think they will probably make it all into 8.2

faint notch
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And 8.2 is still long way to come

dense plover
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They said next patch

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So 8.2

tulip sun
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PTR HURRAH UP

dense plover
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It’s not gonna happen now, it’s the weekend

tulip sun
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I know :/

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Next week hopefully

uncut vault
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something interesting I found when looking through the artifact book on my KT shaman

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remember how muffinus' reaction to the azshara pic was "fire"?

meager zodiac
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she does seem to destroy things only for them to rise up again

terse patrol
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@uncut vault Blood of azeroth and the burning of Teldrassil. inb4 Sylvanas was mind controlled. Or worse, Sylvanas is working with Azshara.

tropic trail
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Undead are immune to void corruption

zealous basalt
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OR

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Sylvanas is Aszhara

dense plover
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Nah

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Sylvanas has logic behind her actions

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Pretty obvious logic honestly

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In character too

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Burning didn’t work because Saurfang refused to finish off Malf

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After that, it all went downhill

tropic trail
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What reason did she have for leaving us on Tol Dagor?

zealous basalt
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lol

dense plover
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Does it still leave you? I thought that was fixed

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Or like, did they give an explanation

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I don’t remember

tropic trail
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I don't think so

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Only done the quest once, never bothered to repeat on alts

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did she hurt your feelings? 😢

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rudevanas

uncut vault
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I mean, we’re with a mage, and negotiations with an important leader don’t really need to involve someone like rexxar or us

dense plover
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That’s fair

ionic terrace
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Pray for PTR tomorrow

dense plover
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Hopefully

tropic trail
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Anyone know if Selis’s Silk Shirt was actually added to 8.1.5 because it just says vendor and there’s no other info on it

dense plover
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It’s a vendor during the free T-shirt thingy

tropic trail
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Ahhhh ty

balmy ingot
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PTR is now 8.2.0?

mystic heart
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@balmy ingot nope

dense plover
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@balmy ingot there will be a post in latest news and tons of chat here. You’ll know when it happens

tulip sun
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Hopefully today or later this week

ionic terrace
dense plover
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Might be next week

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Hard to know

pulsar iris
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don't say that

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we need it this week

tulip sun
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Yessss

ionic terrace
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Every time I see a new wowhead post FeelsSadMan

unborn glacier
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We likely won't see it go live on the PTR until the new raid opens up.

terse patrol
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scream

dense plover
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No way they wait that long

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They need as much time to test as possible

unborn glacier
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I don't believe the 77 cycle thing.

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That's why I think it won't be out until Crucible goes live

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I don't think we will see 8.2 on live until July at the earliest

dense plover
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That’s too long

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They said they want 5-6 months between raids

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June is the latest for raid release

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With patch probably 2-4 weeks before

tulip sun
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Yuppp

ionic terrace
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Getting the feeling not today FeelsSadMan

dense plover
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Next week is most likely, but it’s only 230pst

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If servers don’t go down by 5PST, then it is likely not happening

uncut vault
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The Azshara raid is likely going live in July, not the patch itself

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Assuming the season length is the same as season 1, it will come out July 16th

dense plover
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^

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Patch is likely to be around a month before

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Maybe more with the addition of the mega dungeon

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Either way, they have a lot of content to test

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And it’s probably not coming today

tulip sun
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Still a chance later this week

dense plover
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There’s always a chance until it happens

tulip sun
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I want it so bad

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I have been busy as hell in real life and need some relief

ionic terrace
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PTR update monkaS

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Hotfix build again FeelsSadMan

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Three of the five realms are down tho padthink

dense plover
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Not unusual

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Ptr is currently in maintenance

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Those are generally the only 2 servers that stay up until a major update

ionic terrace
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Ehh, they've been up until today

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The other three*

dense plover
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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They might be prepping for a build

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If those 2 go down, let us know

ionic terrace
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👌

mystic heart
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me too

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but i hope it's not update 😄

terse patrol
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whyy @mystic heart

mystic heart
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i'm not prepared 😄

uncut vault
tulip sun
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I hope it is soon

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I'm starving for info

dense plover
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This was also liked by Muffinus

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Includes follow up tweets related to it maybe not happening if something breaks

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Chance of PTR went up

ionic terrace
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Interesting

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She's a game designer so

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But could also be unrelated lol

dense plover
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But muffinus liked it

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He is the sneaky muffin who hints at ptr

ionic terrace
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Yeah I know

dense plover
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Combined with the 3 down servers, it’s seeming more likely

ionic terrace
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I just don't want to read into it too much lol

tropic trail
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mhhhh

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yes pls

dense plover
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Do t overhype

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Don’t

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But, we can have a tiny tiny bit of hope

ionic terrace
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I'm keeping an eye on the forums myself

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Lemme check the servers again

dense plover
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If they’ve been like toggling or coming up and then going down, that’s a good sign

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Nothing has headed towards deployment servers tho

ionic terrace
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Idk. not been looking at them a ton

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still the three down

pulsar iris
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dont overhype? DONT OVERHYPE? PTR BUILD HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

terse patrol
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EEEEEEE

modern axle
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fingers crossed 😛

strange falcon
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That Moment when you have lots more hype for PTR than real game sad

pulsar iris
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i'm hyped to see new things. already done what interested me on live

languid yoke
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"life shit. not WoW shit"

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implying WoW is not part of life

tropic trail
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rip

tulip sun
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@dense plover How dare you get me excited

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AND NOT read the entire thing

dense plover
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Boo

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Sorry

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Wasn’t there when I shared tweet

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Muffinus got me confused

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Sorry

tulip sun
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SHAME >:O

dense plover
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It wasn’t there

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And it still doesn’t explain that 3/5 servers are down

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It’s unusual

terse patrol
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Could be prepping for tomorrow. @dense plover

dense plover
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Or today

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It’s only 2 there

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Give it 3 hours

terse patrol
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True I guess

dense plover
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No change then tomorrow is a good bet

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Or maybe Friday

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@ionic terrace are the 3 servers still down?

ionic terrace
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can't check rn

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sorry!

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though they were earlier

tulip sun
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@dense plover Ya, 3 are down

dense plover
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Cool

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There’s a chance

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And yeah prep for tomorrow is also likely

tulip sun
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Pray 😮

languid yoke
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right now I'm like Sheldon when he almost didn't get tickets for Star Wars

ionic terrace
zealous basalt
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:thonk:

uncut vault
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First builds have come out on Thursday’s and Friday’s as of late

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So tomorrow or Friday is still very possible

modern axle
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It could just be server maintenance, but would be awesome if it's preparing for the 8.2 PTR

mystic heart
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@modern axle is servers offline?

dense plover
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3/5

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if it was server maintance, it wouldnt be those 3

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they take them offline so they can stress test a new patch

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that way there are only 2 servers

tulip sun
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So they may be stress testing?

dense plover
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no no

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when ptr goes up

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they leave the 2 that are currently up

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that way everyone has to choose one of those 2

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forcing tougher server conditions

tulip sun
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Ohhhh

dense plover
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it helps them find major server problems with a new patch

tulip sun
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Huh

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So they may be shut down in preparation for releasing it

dense plover
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yes

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that is my logic

modern axle
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that is a fair good point you've made Mrpeach, fingers crossed 😛

tulip sun
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Ugh

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I reallyyyy want info

zealous basalt
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What if they are getting downgrade for classic ptr

modern axle
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Haha same here, all we can do is try be patient

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Now that would be cool Makore

dense plover
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that would be dumb

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its way easier to just deploy new servers

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b/c you dont have to reconfigure them

sour burrow
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"Sooooon" we hope.

uncut vault
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Oh good, Anasterian is still up

upper lantern
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Hoping it'll be up tomorrow with 8.2 shit 😄

uncut vault
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If they are doing it for stress testing, that’s where I have my character with the gift of N’zoth

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So I can go into nazjatar with it

dense plover
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remember, nazjatar might not go live with the first update

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like how broken shore wasnt technically open for 2-3 weeks

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tho some of us were able to walk there physically

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not really a possibility for nazjatar

tulip sun
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Hmm

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Depends on how the story is set up I suppose

dense plover
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no no

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i mean testing wise

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broken shore on ptr didnt go live with first 7.2 ptr

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it was like 3 weeks after'

terse patrol
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All I care about is the data mining

dense plover
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theres 2 zones, so we might only have mechagon or nazjatar

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and we might not even get all of nazjatar at once

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like with argus on ptr

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where it was finished in pieces and opened in pieces on ptr

uncut vault
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I mean, Im more interested in the war campaign anyways lol

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I know t hat the actual pvp features I want to test in nazjatar wont be in for many builds

upper lantern
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I'm interested in the plot and new models 😄

tulip sun
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I just want the story and models, ya

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That juicy broadcast text

dense plover
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i want the azerite changes

terse patrol
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@uncut vault I think the war campaign is on haitus or over.

dense plover
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and nazjatar

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its not over

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its just not going to be the main patch focus

foggy abyss
#

I just want the War campaign

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and some more lore

dense plover
#

but we are getting character stories

foggy abyss
#

lore keeps me playing

dense plover
#

sylvanas, saurfang, anduin and jaina

tulip sun
#

We defiantly will get war campaign stuff

#

or just faction stories in general

uncut vault
#

this is currently still there on live, post-8.1.5 stuff

#

they said that the two sides achieve wasnt supposed to be an incentive or a conclusion

#

just a neat reward for people who have been playing both sides

tulip sun
#

Yup

pulsar minnow
#

Anyone notice that the Hand Of Valor that lies on the other side likely refers to Uther the Lightbringer? Also did anyone notice that the shades who attack you during the Vol’jin questline are composed of necromantic magic which we see Necromancers use during island Expeditions?

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I wonder if there was a famous necromancer who opposed Uther... oh yeah! Kel’thuzad!

uncut vault
#

the uther thing seems like a stretch

#

theres a lot of death stuff this xpac, the person behind voljin will likely be a new character

dense plover
#

^
they arent going to literally redo wc3
thats lazy

#

also, when you need to introduce new characters, you dont fall back to old ones

#

thats how you ruin your opportunities

zealous basalt
#

Sadly people are too imbecile, if blizzard creates a new character they will at least be like "did they asspulled a random?"

pulsar minnow
#

But they did revamp Uther’s Tomb and literally say that a “Hand Of Valor” who lies on the “Other Side” (dead) was the one who raised Vol’jin. Also, Vol’jin is glowing with holy light.

terse patrol
#

I still think it might be Tyr who did it.

pulsar minnow
#

Tyr does have some motive, but sadly I feel Blizzard doesn’t remember that he even exists

uncut vault
#

uthers tomb was confirmed to not be specifically for any lore thing

#

just a passion project left over from legion

tulip sun
#

Ughhhhhhh

uncut vault
#

however, similar to taelia, the lore team could pick it up, but its existence doesnt confirm anything

tulip sun
#

I want more lightforged demons

uncut vault
#

that was my main disappointment with argus, honestly

#

one high elf, one human, one ligthforged demon

tulip sun
#

I plan to create an OC lightforged demon to use

uncut vault
#

adn the rest of the AotL is just draenei

tulip sun
#

I head canon there are other nondraenei

#

Just on the ship we never explored

#

That lothracion arrives at the priest base in

tropic trail
#

Why ppl even thinking that it could be Uther? As far as I know, he is just a dead dude and never had any godlike powers

#

Uther was Arthas' mentor

#

And the leader of the Knights of the Silver hand

#

right

#

just a human paladin

#

who is not even close to Eyirs powers. And she said, that not even she could bring Voljin back

bold granite
#

Soo anyone else think Violin may be a Loa?

dense plover
#

Lots of people

#

That’s what makes this interesting

#

Who has the power to do that?

bold granite
#

I was assuming that nzoth was the one holding him back from achieving full loa-ship

#

As for the whispers, i was thinking maybe they were his own from later on after he became a loa? Total speculation and would LOVE for someone to come up with something else cause this doesn't really make 100% sense

tropic trail
#

I speculate that Mue'Zela was who whisperd him to make Sylv warchief and Odin the one who brought him back

#

but I feel like, blizz will go the simple way and Nzoth whispered Voljin to make her warchief

bold granite
#

Mue'zela? Someone i need to look up!!!!!

tropic trail
#

a being from the shadowlands. maybe the boss of Bwonsamdi

#

its a Loa of Death for the Trolls

#

or wait, actually idk if Mue zela is a loa. but he is a big thing in the shadowlands

bold granite
#

Would make sense without looking him up. Voljin did spend lots of time in the shadowlands if i remember right

dense plover
#

Except that Eyir seemed to imp,y that it was someone from the light who brought voljin back

#

He is infused with light, not death

uncut vault
#

Mueh’zala will likely have his story resolved within the traveler series

#

They’re not going to have the big bad of not only BfA, but likely the next xpac as well, be spoiled in a children’s story

dense plover
#

^

bold granite
#

Did she say it was someone infused with light?

pulsar iris
#

she said valor

#

if i remember correctly

bold granite
#

Ahhh i need to go do the quests again

terse patrol
#

@uncut vault @dense plover Think we might get lucky today?

dense plover
#

Hope so

#

Pay attention around 11PST

#

That’s when stuff usually happens

#

But it can happen as late as 4-5PST

bold granite
#

Get lucky for what? I'm nosey I'm sorry

dense plover
#

New build

#

8.2 build specifically

tropic trail
#

8.2 is on ptr?

zealous basalt
#

no no

meager zodiac
#

ohh i feel it in the air

tulip sun
#

PEACH

#

V.vv

dense plover
#

What?

#

They asked what was special - that’s what we are hoping for

tulip sun
#

I looked and saw you say new build

#

Got me excited

#

It didn't show the question

dense plover
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Not my fault

pulsar iris
#

totally your fault

dense plover
#

Nope

#

Not taking blame for discord not loading stuff

#

Hope patch is coming tho - I want to see it

zealous basalt
#

I blame Kham for not reading

pulsar iris
#

i blame blizzard for not letting us have new build

dense plover
#

Woah woah woah

#

Ptr is a privilege

#

Don’t abuse it

pulsar iris
#

new build or riot!!!

tulip sun
#

I blame peach because he got me excited yesterday too e.e

bold granite
#

Sooo just been reading flying should be in 8.2 do we have any blue posts confirming this

lone marten
#

Its true

bold granite
#

Omg

zealous basalt
#

but with

lone marten
#

And there should be flying in nazjatar and mechagon too 😉

zealous basalt
#

the archiev

bold granite
#

I'm okay with the achievement. Account wide flying is worth it to me

zealous basalt
#

same

dense plover
#

Might be flying in nazjatar and mechagon

#

They aren’t sure

dark furnace
#

Do you think we'll have to rep grind in Mechagon and Nazjatar?

#

To get flying

night swift
#

One of the two most likely

mystic heart
#

so 3 servers is down

pulsar iris
#

would be good to have flight for the rep grind fest

dense plover
#

They’ve been down for 2 days

#

We are waiting for the other servers to go down

ionic terrace
#

💤

terse patrol
#

@dense plover No sign yet of a PTR today?

dense plover
#

not unless all 5 servers are down

#

looking likely

#

we just got a muffinus weird tweet

#

chance went up about 20%

#

we are sitting at a solid 40% chance probably

ionic terrace
#

where

#

the 17h ago one?

dense plover
#

just deleted

#

chance now 50%

#

Parameter Terminated....Readjusting to data

#

PTR

#

that seems too coincidental tbh

terse patrol
#

Sounds Mechagony maybe. 👀 @dense plover

royal orchid
#

im not sure, he seems to be always at our side when it comes to teasing.. maybe he deleted it because he don't want to make false hope

dense plover
#

nah

#

last time was also deleted

dark furnace
#

td probably stands for today

#

ptr td

dense plover
#

thats a decent guess

#

assuming it wasnt deleted because it was actually a mistake

#

i doubt it was tho

#

its only 2pm there

#

so theres a good amount of time

#

@ionic terrace is there a way to check the server status from my browser?

ionic terrace
#

Don't think so

#

But it's still just the three

dark furnace
#

It kinda sounds like somthing MOTHER would say

modern axle
#

I can log on and look at PTR realms if you want Peach

dark furnace
#

More than gnomey

dense plover
#

the issue is, if they go down, you wont see unless you log in and out

modern axle
#

ah that is true

ionic terrace
#

I'm on Ana right now

#

Will keep an eye out for Shutdown

dense plover
#

ah ok

#

that works

#

thx

dense plover
#

ping me if anything changes

zealous basalt
#

@dense plover

#

something changed

dense plover
#

....

#

what

zealous basalt
#

The hour

zealous basalt
#

har her har her

dense plover
#

seriously tho

sour burrow
#

Ping me if they ping you with something relevant, MrPeach. :P I'd say I have various bets riding on this patch and am anxious for the results, but that would be hyperbole.

ionic terrace
#

@dense plover Nothing major but the two online servers are both full population now blobthinking

dense plover
#

lol

#

might be tomorrow

terse patrol
#

its happened on friday before

#

so maybe

#

unless they’re holding off for tuesday for some weird reason

uncut vault
#

With that tweet, total conspiracy theory beyond the PTR initials

#

Say the words to data out loud without the ‘ta’ at the end

#

😛

#

But being deleted probably means tomorrow, IMO

#

Thought it was coming today, something technical got in the way

jade basalt
#

Someone inadvertently deleted 8.2

dense plover
#

or he was trolling

#

muffinus has done the whole - tweet and delete right before a patch

#

but at this point its probably too late

#

so tomorrow isnt ridiculous

signal bone
#

I doubt we're gonna get PTR this week

#

They don't drop big PTR clients on Fridays, it's too late for today at this point, and the Q&A said a "couple of weeks" or something to that effect

#

and that was last week

uncut vault
#

Yes they do

#

8.1 PTR was on a Friday

#

As was 7.3

#

8.1.5 was on a Thursday

languid yoke
#

yeah lots of big ptr patches dropped on thursday/friday

signal bone
#

Big as in the first one?

uncut vault
#

First builds typically do, because they get feedback from the weekend

#

Most PTR feedback comes from week one, so having a weekend for it works out well

languid yoke
#

big as in first one, yes

pulsar iris
#

why wouldn't they release on friday? it's not like they're releasing it live and need to fix any bugs immediately

sour burrow
#

I know I'd personally take that approach for a test realm. Let things explode as bad as they can, then check the results after the weekend, lol. Just gotta take that one day to make sure it actually stays up for a while.

pulsar iris
#

i blame peach if no build today

tropic trail
#

^

hollow granite
#

🍑

dense plover
#

Y

#

I don’t work for blizz

#

Wish I did

pulsar iris
#

because you're a lovely slime, and so i blame you

dense plover
#

shakes head

#

This isn’t even my final form

pulsar iris
#

n-nani?!

tulip sun
#

If it isn't today we riot against peach's dictatorship

dense plover
#

But I’m not a dictator

#

That doesn’t even make sense

#

That’s like saying “Tonight, we ride!” And then you walk

pulsar iris
#

you heard him @tulip sun

#

TONIGHT WE RIDE

zealous basalt
#

in you

#

imeanwat

pulsar iris
#

oh my

zealous basalt
#

Still

#

I blame peach

#

he jinxes everythin

dense plover
#

I do no such thing

terse patrol
#

@dense plover 👀

dense plover
#

What?

#

@terse patrol

terse patrol
#

we getting ptr today?

dense plover
#

Idk

#

Watch the servers

#

Hopefully?

uncut vault
#

weird that the two still up are shown as full

#

you know, to make it easy, Im just gonna keep a character online on the PTR

#

and see if they get DCed lol

dense plover
#

Best way to check

#

Just have them stand there

#

Maybe pick a low lag area like voldun

amber narwhal
#

Any news on when to expect 8.2 PTR?

unborn glacier
#

The real BFA launch

zealous basalt
#

I thought 8.1 was the real bfa launch

#

Next time 9.0 is going to be the real launch

uncut vault
#

nah, it was never really touted as that, by blizz or the playerbase

#

.2 has always been the hit or miss of xpacs

ionic terrace
uncut vault
#

MoP and Legion also had what were considered mediocre launches, not nearly as bad as Legion opinions, but the .2 was what turned opinions around, in general

meager zodiac
#

Please be today, I need my dose

tulip sun
#

Plsssss

dense plover
#

Still lots of time if it’s going to happen

strange falcon
#

I didnt know PTR was a drug that came in doses 🤔

zealous basalt
#

It can be daf

#

it can be

pulsar iris
#

please blizz

#

we need

ionic terrace
#

Ripperoni

dense plover
#

What?

zealous basalt
#

no 2day

dense plover
#

It’s not too late yet

#

It’s only 4pm PST

dense plover
#

Probably RIP tho

#

There go my hopes and dreams

modern axle
#

Maybe we'll get in a week or two who knows, we can only hope 😄

dense plover
#

I’m just confused why Muffinus is trolling

#

He responded to MrGM with a photoshopped tweet

#

With weird capitalization

jade basalt
royal orchid
#

well I bet some people are going to get mad on monday, when we get those april fools jokes before we get some ptr news

dense plover
#

Hey, they ARE doing a dance

#

Cool

foggy abyss
#

I'm not expecting the PTR update before a damn while

uncut vault
#

good chart from Signs of Kelani on youtube

#

take into account that 8.1.5 release was just after the christmas break, and 8.1 was waiting after the xpac launch

jade basalt
#

It's as if PTR wasn't far away 🤔

#

New islands, warfronts, and customization confirmed

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/3/29/18284833/battle-for-azeroth-endgame-patch-8-2

  • Martens confirms new islands will be coming, even after the two new additions in the upcoming 8.2 patch, Rise of Azshara

  • Rise of Azshara will be a massive content drop and overhaul of Battle for Azeroth as we know it, but it’s also an opportunity to take the lessons learned from Battle for Azeroth’s launch. The existing systems that work will carry forward into Rise of Azshara.

  • “We’re mid-evolution [on World Quests],” says Martens. “We’re trying to push them in new directions in Rise of Azshara in particular. With Incursions, that was a way of packaging world quests in a region and giving them an appropriate, exciting theme. Moving forward, you’ll see world quests in new zones be geared towards those new zones.“ "Now, World Quests are avenues for new things,” he says. We’ll see new twists on World Quests in both Mechagon and Nazjatar.

  • "In addition, the team is looking at rewards that go beyond just gear. “We’re looking at new customization options, not just in world quests and progression, but beyond that,” Martens says. Recently, it was announced that there will be additional transmog options for players to hide gear. Darkshore quests unlocked a Night Elf customization option with black eyes.

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  • Rise of Azshara will also create a new baseline of content. With the current warfronts, Martens says the team was pursuing the right pace of content. “A push and pull you have with repeatable systems and reward content is how often should it happen,” he says. “If it’s fun, but constant, it can be boring. If it’s fun, but rare, that’s frustrating. Warfronts were always planned to have the cadence they have now.”

  • There will be additional warfronts in Battle for Azeroth, and the rewards to the existing one will likely be tuned and changed. We’ll also see lore characters continue to show up in these encounters. “Having characters in the encounters build connections with enemies, which can be as important as building relationships with allies.”

#

(Beyond 8.2)

tropic trail
#

nice, I can see a Warfront happen in Nazjatar

uncut vault
#

I doubt that, as their conversation around it talks about loving kalimdor and eastern kingdoms especially

dark furnace
#

Who will give the quests for Gnome and Tauren heritage armor?

#

With Mekkatorque "dead" and Baine imprisoned

proven sequoia
#

My guesses are Oglethorpe and Hamuul.

uncut vault
#

tinkmaster overspark is more likely for gnomes

#

as we know itll involve ships, hes the most well established gnome-based gnome outside of Mekkatorque

#

even has a VA

proven sequoia
#

Oh, right.

#

Hamuul's still pretty likely though.

dark furnace
#

I think it'll be a revived cyborg Mekkatorque or Kelsey Steelspark

terse patrol
#

Kelsey is the only real replacement for Mekkatorque anyways.

#

No other gnome has the screen time.

uncut vault
#

like I said, Overspark definitely does, he shows up in MoP as Mekkatorque's envoy, and is the secondary alliance character in Stormheim, with a VA, unlike Kelsey

#

he also has a lot more background in tinkering and building stuff, which we know is the general focus for the questline

#

Kelsey just likes robots, doesnt have the skills to build them

signal bone
#

Interested in the WQ stuff - the system was largely unchanged from Legion > BFA and could use a lot of work

uncut vault
#

Yeah, I like the incursions, but think the end quests could use variety, so I hope that the whole progressive world quest thing takes that into account

dense plover
#

yeah the idea of WQs having phases sounds great

languid yoke
#

Sounds a bit like GW2 Living World

unborn glacier
#

Heroic WQ's need to come back

#

I liked the higher difficulty WQs in Legion

languid yoke
#

Well those are the elite wq mobs, there weren't that many regular elite wq before argus

dense plover
#

they were boring

#

they were just hard WQs

#

the new naga wqs sort of do that

#

what they want to do are multistep wqs

#

where you do a thing and then the next part happens and stuff changes or you move somewhere else

#

like some of the events in destiny

#

or the living world stuff sort of

languid yoke
#

choose-your-own-adventure multistep wq

dense plover
#

unlikely to be that

#

i think its more like the destiny stuff

#

where you do part 1 then part 2 occurs and it might require you to go somewhere else, or the environment might change

#

like with islands and waves of enemies

#

that kind of thing

shell arch
#

They also said we will get the companion/bodyguard walking around with us and also hbving the impact on the wq smxstem

#

All that stuff sound rly promising, i cant wait

tropic trail
#

that companion thing will probably be similiar to the Legion one

shell arch
#

More or less advanced yea

terse patrol
#

@dense plover Is Blizzard not at Pax East this year?

dense plover
#

dont think so

#

probably working on the patch

#

its big

#

they need everyone

zealous basalt
#

what do you think we are going to have in this

#

blizzcon

dense plover
#

not to mention hearthstone is in reveal season

#

probably 8.3

#

and maybe a trailer for 9.0

terse patrol
#

I think this coming week will be PTR week.

dense plover
#

depends on if we know the outcome of 8.3 by blizzcon or not

zealous basalt
#

I was pissed when they announced BfA

dense plover
#

gamescom is guaranteed to be 8.3 tho

zealous basalt
#

Because

#

The raid of Antorus wasn't even live

#

when they spoiled the sword

uncut vault
#

I think it'll be a bit like Isle of Thunder

#

but instead of just choosing the first quest, you do a world quest

#

and that opens up more

tulip sun
#

I fully expect a 9.0 reveal

uncut vault
#

at gamescom? definitely not

#

BfA is behind the cycle compared to Legion

#

and may even have patches beyond 8.3

#

9.0 is blizzcon at earliest

tulip sun
#

I meant Blizzcon

#

I don't even know when Gamescon is

uncut vault
#

And honestly, I kinda hope they continue the 8.1 approach to raids

#

it would fix the spoilers at blizzcon issue

#

with the raid releasing not in the .5 patch, but halfway between the base patch and the .5

tulip sun
#

because if they don't announce 9,0 at Blizzcon...they'll have to do a stream or something

#

Not as exciting

uncut vault
#

Not as exciting, but definitely more accessible

#

as info beyond the opening ceremony wont need to be gleaned from wowhead by non-paying viewers

tulip sun
#

I suppose

uncut vault
#

it likely will be announced at blizzcon anyways though

#

this blizzcon really needs to be good for blizzard

#

like, desperately

tulip sun
#

Would 8.3 be released or hinted at by then?

uncut vault
#

released, probably

tulip sun
#

Ok, so spoilers shouldn't be a problem

uncut vault
#

the raid being released depends on what I was talking about

#

because the patch itself isnt the big spoiler, the xpac ending is

tulip sun
#

I have to say though, I feel like this expansion could go many more patches simply for storyl.

uncut vault
#

if they decide to release the rest of the xpac raids in .5 patches similar to Legion, Im not even sure the raid will be out before blizzcon

#

so I hope they continue the Battle of Dazaralor/season 2 trend

#

and unlike Legion, I would wager the end of the 8.3 raid will be far more vital to the next xpac than the antorus ending was to BfA

#

BfA's premise doesnt hinge on the sword, its just the catalyst

#

I'd bet 9.0's premise will involve whatever happens to nzoth and sylvanas rather intensely

tulip sun
#

Ya.

#

I honestly don't know what could happemn

#

I don't expect Sylvanas to die or turn villain(at least to the Horde)

uncut vault
#

Neither do I, but at this point I am not even sure what theyre gonna do with the faction war

#

they could go the predictable boring route that it seems on surface, or something more interesting

tulip sun
#

The faction war seems far from over..

#

It seems like it is ramping up

#

This is a good expansion for extra patches I think

unborn glacier
#

With the amount of times they've fucked the horde when it comes to faction stuff, I'd love a Horde win that Humbles the Alliance

languid yoke
#

slightly late: gamescom is mid august

zealous basalt
#

But the horde has only been fucked by this patch

unborn glacier
#

Imagine thinking BFA is the only faction stuff

uncut vault
#

looking back, 7.3 went onto the ptr in july, but its release date and trailer were announced at gamescom 2017

#

I can see that happening for 8.3

unborn glacier
#

I look forward to what 8.3 brings us

uncut vault
#

oh, that reminds me

#

I cant wait to see the 8.2 key art

#

Certainly hope azshara is on it

jade basalt
#

Gamescom will be about 8.3, and BlizzCon will have the 9.0 expansion reveal

dense plover
#

probably

#

otherwise when would they do expac reveal?

#

theres no other good time

tropic trail
#

Do they have an E3 panel?

dense plover
#

no

zealous basalt
#

METROID PRIME 4 VR

dense plover
zealous basalt
#

Because

#

It's a spoiler

#

that it can be on the ptr

foggy abyss
#

yeah

#

right

lucid steeple
terse patrol
#

Hurgh.

#

They ruined Hydras.

lucid steeple
#

really?

terse patrol
#

Old Hydras were way cooler.

lucid steeple
#

I think it looks cool if it was a mount but if you think its bad.

#

Well there were many kinds and Types of Hydra so they both can be cool.

#

well blizzard can think up anything is what makes me hope they can make anything really.

zinc sandal
#

I mean how is it ruined?

lucid steeple
#

I dont see how either i love anything new wow makes i just hate there RNG its unforgiving

terse patrol
#

@zinc sandal The design is far worse.

zinc sandal
#

IDK about far worse but I do agree that although I like the new models some things look “cute” when they should look fierce and terrifying, like hydras.

#

I do hope you don’t mean size, because you showed us Gahz’rilla, a Wild God.

terse patrol
#

Not size.

#

Aesthetic.

dense plover
#

but yes its different

#

they no longer have the 2 legged hydra

#

like, the old one still exists

#

but there isnt a new equivalent

lucid steeple
#

they cant just stay with old look forever heck i believe they have big plans for Stormwind maybe but i could be wrong.

#

just picturing what kind of changes they could do to the city what more they could add to it makes it seem better.

unborn glacier
#

4 legs > 2 legs

dense plover
#

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

terse patrol
#

The new one looks dumb.

sour burrow
tranquil steeple
dense plover
#

movement?

#

?

tranquil steeple
#

the channels briefly swapped places

#

and then back again

ivory meadow
#

hmm

#

8.2 ptr just started

foggy abyss
#

Nah

#

it didn't

ivory meadow
#

oh shit

#

it's april fools

#

i totally forgot

dense plover
#

its also 6pm sunday

#

blizzard isnt open

sage path
#

and keep in mind its the 3/31 not 4/1

#

the good stuff will be tomorrow

clever oriole
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oof

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this is the bad kind of april fools

terse patrol
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this is the worst kind of april fools joke reee

storm marsh
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Perculia really got me

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For straight 2 mins

silk rose
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same, i was really annoyed, really fast lol

tulip sun
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A BIT EARLY PERCULIA >;O

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You got me

amber narwhal
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It’s not April 1st yet, you almost got me... but the void touched stuff ruined it lol

dense plover
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its not even sort of believable

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theres not even any patch relevant content

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they couldve at least memed about nazjatar or mechagnomes

tulip sun
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The entire patch won't be on those areas

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They said stuff elsewhere will happen

dense plover
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yeah but those are the two biggest areas, which means they are going to be in the first build

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maybe not playable

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but there would be data

restive pasture
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The most recent book, Before the Storm introduced the idea of Undead created by the Light, so I had every reason to believe it

dense plover
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joining the alliance?

restive pasture
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Possibly

dense plover
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never

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they specifically said they dont want recolors on opposite factions

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not to mention why would they add multiple sets of new race stuff and not have anything related to the meat of the patch?

restive pasture
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they already have recolors on opposite factions though, Void Elves and Blood Elves, Night Elves and Nightborn

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all are reskins of one another

dense plover
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those arent just recolors tho

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there are model tweaks

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hair is different

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etc

restive pasture
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lets agree to disagree

dense plover
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thats an objective fact

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nightborne and void elves use the same skeleton but have distinct model and hair differences

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the ones in the april fools post dont

terse patrol
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@dense plover It's more likely light undead would use the human skeleton.

dense plover
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if they were to happen

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but even then

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they wouldnt be straight up recolors

tulip sun
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god damnit wowhead. You made the icon with a notification stickerrrrrr

whole cedar
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just to clarify one thing, they've had sunday builds before. one of the bfa builds was on mother's day

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jolly good time was had by all of us that day

dense plover
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yes

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but its rare

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and even then

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not at 6pm

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and again

whole cedar
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on tuesday before blizzcon we had a 10pm build 😛

dense plover
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would have the meat

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nazjatar

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mechagon

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something

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but yes, most people might fall for it

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i have like 6 sources that ping me when builds go out

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XD

whole cedar
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I was super jetlagged on that pre-blizzcon build because I had just arrived in LA... i'm 6 hours ahead of the west coast

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so that was great too!

tulip sun
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Sounds...tiring. I never knew we had a weekend build...

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Don't know where I was

whole cedar
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I would guess spending time with your mom

dense plover
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that sounds like a burn, but it was mothers day

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XD

whole cedar
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yeah definitely not meant to be a burn

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XD sorry

tulip sun
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Heh, it is fine.

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I wish the barrens warfront was true though

dense plover
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me too

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maybe one day

west relic
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#bringbackbarrenschat

tulip sun
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It would really delve into the tauren and their opinions on the war

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They have a variety of opinions, as seen with "Ace"

calm garden
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if there is gonna be a new warfront in 8.2 barrens would make sence if you actualy think about it pluss it been in the gamefiles for quite a while now

uncut vault
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I’m dreading the number of people that are going to start asking for light undead now, without having a grasp on the lore behind them

meager zodiac
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its not even thinking of the implications of the race in the alliance for the forsaken

sullen dagger
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Id LOVE to ser then become a true rhing tbh

remote epoch
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They ain't forsaken though right? It's basically like Calia Menethil in Before the Storm

uncut vault
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Assuming more of them are risen like that, yes

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in which case, I'd be fine with it

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but with the likely set-up of derek, theyd probably be existing forsaken, which would ruin most reasons for the forsaken staying Horde

remote epoch
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I think Derek would actually be a leader for the Lighttouched Undead, and the lighttouched would all be risen like Calia. Y'know, if this allied race was to happen

uncut vault
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So long as he isnt one himself, that'd probably work without mucking up lore

shrewd mist
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why would the alliance support such a thing?

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isnt it basically raising the dead, which they have critized sylvanas for doing?

uncut vault
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Because Anduin was the one to do it in the first place

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he resurrected calia with Alonsus

shrewd mist
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it wasn't his idea, he didn't even know what he was doing

uncut vault
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And he wasnt against it, he was happy to see Calia alive

terse patrol
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I think the difference being, Light Undead would probably not be raised from enemy combatants. Might be wrong.

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I could see them raise Scarlet Crusaders though.

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And reconverting Forsaken who Sylvanas raised.

unborn glacier
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@uncut vault It was the Naaru who did it, channeling through Alonsus and Anduin.

uncut vault
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The light channeled through them, not Saa’ra

silk rose
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the implications of the light basically force rezzing people is equally as horrifying

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i kind of hope they do it

dark furnace
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Also note the order they say Forsaken and Human

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And Light and Dark

tropic trail
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As two opposites?

dense plover
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That’s called word association

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It’s part of being a good writer

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It’s not a direct comparison, but it allows the reader to make an association

dark furnace
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Like the human is the dark and forsaken as light

balmy ingot
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ah new lightbound undead join ally o.o

dark furnace
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If they do that I hope Horde gets Undeads with the same model as Nathanos

terse patrol
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If Blizzard does actually do it, I’m pretty confident they’ll use the human skeleton and model as a base.

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I just hope they adjust how they look.

balmy ingot
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any ppl idea about who join to horde?

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if ligbtbound undead join to Allly then what else horde?

terse patrol
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@balmy ingot Keep in mind WoWhead is just posting april fools stuff atm

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PTR is not here yet

inner copper
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If lightbound undead for alliance, night elf dark rangers for horde

terse patrol
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though, light undead are probably happening anyways.

inner copper
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The ones risen in darkshore

terse patrol
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I personally think Vulpera, Sanlayn, or Moknathal.