Seeing her dead was so satisfying
#beta-ptr-spoilers
tulip sun
I plan pleasantly surprised with the dwarf questline
hollow dock
"How could this happen to me" yadda yadda yadda
terse patrol
also, i dont get why the Alliance don’t burn their bodies nowadays
tulip sun
Am*
hollow dock
I don't get why either
Why doesn't either side burn their bodies
Like
even during the Scourge War
zealous basalt
No idea
hollow dock
neither side burned their dead
tulip sun
I mean, she never raised any but humans until now.
terse patrol
“we need lots of graveyards for necromancers to use for P L O T”
hollow dock
A good chunk of the forsaken are high elves Kham.
terse patrol
Wanna know the best thing
tulip sun
I guess it is fair that they maybe just didn't have time or manpower. They are just now getting to darkshore.
terse patrol
go to Argent Crusade camp in Icecrown
hollow dock
and also the Dark Rangers she keeps making
terse patrol
graveyard
terse patrol
“WHY ARE YOU BURYING YOUR DEAD”
tulip sun
I was thinking you were talking about with sylvanas and the nelves
terse patrol
“IN ICECROWN”
hollow dock
Im more so talking all over their fights with the undead
I can understand why not for Darkshore
cuz they were in full retreat
not much time to set every corpse ablaze there
tulip sun
I am anxious to see Delaryn's undead model
dense plover
Think ptr just crashed
tulip sun
I gave up on ptr
uncut vault
did you go through a load screen?
terse patrol
You’d think a near world ending undead plague would have hammered every culture an appreciation for cremation.
dense plover
Yes
uncut vault
basically only EK and kalimdor, and the open world kul tiras and zandalar currently work
where to?
dense plover
It’s fine
zealous basalt
Oi port
dense plover
I reloaded and that broke stuff
terse patrol
Like, I could easily see the Alliance digging up all of their graveyards and burning the bodies. They can leave the headstones there as memorials.
uncut vault
its pretty meh, hood will be good in some cases but
manic horizon
I wish they'd stop putting every armor set on the base Human Male model as a default, but it looks okay?
uncut vault
we cant actually play dark rangers, so its kinda useless
still stuck with the nighthold hoods
hollow dock
that's just WoWhead zac.
zealous basalt
Dey be biased
uncut vault
no thats what I mean, I RP as one
terse patrol
idk why WoWhead uses human males as their base for everything
uncut vault
and the only hood that makes me look anywhere close is the ones from nighthold
LFR and mythic
hollow dock
it's just the first model in the database
uncut vault
cause it actually gives the eyes
hollow dock
they're not going to go out of their way to plop it onto a race that's "Proper". We're just here to look at the armor
I just use theater of mind for stuff like that.
or since Im on the erm.
'other' server
just make one
¯_(ツ)_/¯
zealous basalt
No u
uncut vault
dereks model on live has blonde hair, right?
zealous basalt
If I remember
uncut vault
PTR model has grey hair, weirdly old looking
dense plover
The tornado in darkshore is gone
uncut vault
if you mean in the post-teldrassil phase, its like that on live too
whole zone is cleared out
uncut vault
was patched in a few weeks ago
uncut vault
treant, or ancient?
hollow dock
did they fix Darkshore btw?
cuz
I have a character that never finished the pre-patch event
and going back in time just keeps giving me the dialogue
As if I need to go and do it
uncut vault
interesting little change
login screen now shows the exact area you logged out in, instead of the general zone
inn names and the like
uncut vault
on the PTR
uncut vault
shows exact locations now
hollow dock
Huh. I never noticed that.
tulip sun
That is cool
And I absolutely love the new ancient models. Especially the ancient of wind
uncut vault
I keep my paladin as a lookalike to remember him
tulip sun
I bet they look even better on a Lightforged:P
uncut vault
nah, maraad > all
tulip sun
I am curious if any other Lightforged will appear
I hope more appear. It is sad if only one does, and he dies right away
uncut vault
looks like they didnt change avenging crusader, if people still want the old wings
tulip sun
If I was Telaamon and survived thousands of years of war against the legion to die against a grunt I would rage.
zealous basalt
Maraad
All what you done was in vain
I will never forgive blizzard for this
yawn nothing new?
hollow dock
I highly doubt it's a single grunt @tulip sun
tulip sun
I know
jovial coral
Is there any evidence of blizzard working on a wow 2
jovial coral
Dang
night swift
why would they make a sequl right now?
dense plover
MMOs don’t get sequels
Not if they are making fuck loads of money
Something being old is not a good reason to throw it out
jovial coral
Right
What I'm thinking is bump the level cap to 200 with new content
Then it's basically wow2
night swift
still technically the same game
night swift
no
usually people say just a whole new game
cause that just sounds like an xpac right there
night swift
a new game with a new engine sure
but until that happens we're not getting a sequel
and it might not even happen
jovial coral
I don't want a sequel the way your describing it
I want to keep the characters I got
night swift
idk if character transfers would be a thing
unless the game was more about end game than leveling
but yeah. New game would most likely mean new characters
night swift
well to be fair
changing engines would make transferring stuff between games difficult
so blizz would probably just not do it
jovial coral
I'm no techie but battlenet should make it easier or something 😂 right🤔
night swift
youre joking right
jovial coral
I mean you got all the characters info stored so just transfer it with some kind of converter
night swift
ok but what about items, transmogs, mounts, anything thats connected to you would be too costly to transfer
cause thats more resources that needs to be made
and more time, and less room to make actual new things
jovial coral
If there's a will there's a way
That's all that matters
It's worth it in the long run
night swift
I highly doubt its on their lsit of things to do right now
jovial coral
That's okay
As long as they never make it so we don't get to keep the characters we have
A lot of people would go to other MMOs at that point
night swift
i wouldnt get your hopes up
jovial coral
That would sadly kill wow, for me at least
night swift
I haven't heard of any mmo that transfers characters when they make a new game
jovial coral
True
plain vigil
Okay so in the ptr we receive our 4th peice hinting at junkergnomes. However it seems to me like they are preparing for a quest similar to the night elf quest. This to me seems like they're trying to get vanilla races up to par with allied races.
night swift
I don't think final fantasy 14 even did that when they rereleased the game
plain vigil
@dense plover thoughts your holyness?
terse patrol
lookin forwards to dark iron and maghar death knights
both the Dark Iron and Mag’har island expedition leaders are death knights
north storm
@night swift if they make a sequel now with the additional technology they could redo the world after the pre first war map. Without to retcon the crap out of it.
which in this case the world map would be far, far bigger than what we have today
a real Azeroth giant.
jovial skiff
Maybe we can finally heal the worlds woons!
night swift
ok well the main arguement was that they wanted characters to be transfered
which I don't think will happen
north storm
EK in first war is far larger than this EK
but they also did some zones larger
like broken isles and kul'tiras
zealous basalt
There is no need to remake the game tho
plain vigil
When noone cares about the 4th junkergnome hint 😭
north storm
Well. At the rate blizzard moves and solves bugs.
zealous basalt
The current world map is big enough go satisfy people, the engine, even if it can be seen as outdated, still has some juice
jovial coral
There's no need to make games in the first place but it's cool they did
zealous basalt
You arent understanding brown
jovial coral
Probably
zealous basalt
To ask for a wow2 or an engine remake would be a waste of time and money
north storm
yeah
zealous basalt
The engine is still working and we have seen how much effort they can put to make nice mechanics
And graphically nice too
jovial skiff
WoW2 would completely defeat the purpose of putting all the past expansions in the same game
they could have made WoW 2 with Burning Crusade, but this isnt that type of game
Warcraft was
north storm
Plus that it would take years for blizzard only to open an alpha for wow2
north storm
no
night swift
maybe for diablo
zealous basalt
Not that I know
night swift
theres stuff going on there
zealous basalt
Diablo 3 dlc
uncut vault
didnt think the maghar dude was a death knight at first
but damn, two allied race DKs
north storm
blizzard is lazier than Lazy Town. so no chance to see wow2
anyways
Lightforged dk
north storm
welp
...we got from a whole team 2 models after 1 week of updates. So this is something
zealous basalt
gud bait
zealous basalt
not worth 2 try
north storm
⭐ you tried
zealous basalt
I meant the new maghars
night swift
yeah new ones dont make sense
zealous basalt
grabs newspaper
terse patrol
You wouldnt be from thr AU
zealous basalt
smacks
terse patrol
The*
Sperg
lol
Goblin DKs aren’t even Bilgewater
Worgen DKs are from Shadowfang Keep
jovial skiff
was just going to say that
zealous basalt
I know
jovial skiff
I think it's cool
zealous basalt
I jad the idea they would be Outland orcs
jovial skiff
I'd like to see some allied races being DKs
Any that you can say would have existed on azeroth at the time and could ahve been pulled in.
Kul Tiran humans absolutely were hit by the Scourge
And probably highmountain tauren too right?
terse patrol
Kul Tiran DKs would be fine
zealous basalt
How bow velves?
zealous basalt
I was going to say having them not being dks would be unbalanced
And then I remembered the nightborne
terse patrol
Blizzard doesnt care about that
Blizz will only add classes to what makes sense.
Gnome druids would never be a thing
zealous basalt
Do you want to make a living bomb mf
jovial skiff
Zandalari trolls should be allowed to
Lich king wouldnt care what kind of troll hes killing and enslaving into undeath
terse patrol
Zandalari DKs would be fine
jovial skiff
Personally I would have really liked to see any non elf Demon Hunter, but I guess Illidan was just racist or something idk the full lore on that
terse patrol
Zandalari were in Zul’Drak in Wrath
zealous basalt
I never understood where did he pull the blood elves from
terse patrol
The admiral of the Scarlet Crusade was a Kul Tiran lorewise
jovial skiff
All trolls are descendants of Zandalar right?
plain vigil
@terse patrol velfs and nbelfs don't make sense for demon hunters.... Due to them either not existing, or being in a literal bubble
terse patrol
I’d roll a kul tiran DK instantly
jovial skiff
Like, kul tirans arent even different from humans realistically.
They just live on some islands and are a different political entity but there are so many different groups of humans we kill that it shouldnt be significant to have kul tiran humans at all tbh
terse patrol
@plain vigil ahem
The Illidari didnt just disappear
They’d still take new recruits.
The Legion isn’t gone
plain vigil
They'd have to make an entirely new intro scenario..... Not gonna happen any timr soon
And by that logic
Why not the other races too?
jovial skiff
They wouldnt though
uncut vault
Demon Hunters wont get a new scenario, theres is very lore tight, and tied to legion
plain vigil
If we get naga then yes definitely they will be dh's, but that's the only on I can think of atm.
uncut vault
but DKs will probably be getting a new one for current lore in the next xpac
terse patrol
You dont even need that Porter
jovial skiff
You can literally just drop Kul tirans and Zandalari or maghar into the normal DK starting zone the same way they did with Worgen and Goblins
night swift
Maghar not really
plain vigil
Mag har like the worgen won't be from the same place
night swift
Since the playable ones are from specifically au draenor
plain vigil
@night swift
terse patrol
roll Maghar DK. Scourge tell you to execute an Argent, find Maghar argent inside. “Brother, by the ancestors, what have they done to you? Don’t you remember Nagrand, and the struggles of the Mag’har on Outland? Etc etc exposition. Kill me so you can escape yada yada.”
plain vigil
Read above
terse patrol
There. @uncut vault
uncut vault
Worgen DKs are still gilnean
plain vigil
They are wild worgen outside of the walls
terse patrol
Worgen DKs are Shadowfang Worgen
plain vigil
^^^^
jovial skiff
wild maghar outside the portal
terse patrol
Goblin DKs are Steamwheedle
plain vigil
LMAO
night swift
We’re still forgetting that the maghar that we just recruited from draenor won’t make sense in the dk starting zone at all
uncut vault
yes, and afflicted shadowfang worgen are still gilnean
jovial skiff
wild kul tirans outside the garbage island
uncut vault
the starter zone literally says "remember gilneas"
terse patrol
Apparently, you were a Steamwheedle goblin supplying the Argents, and got killed.
Then raised
plain vigil
@night swift they wouldn't be au Mag'har
night swift
That still makes no sense
terse patrol
HOW
uncut vault
but in one of the pre-BfA QnA's, they hinted at death knights getting an updated starter zone anyways
plain vigil
^^^^
terse patrol
Who is a MU Maghar
plain vigil
^^^^
terse patrol
Ya’ll lore babies.
plain vigil
^^^^^^
terse patrol
Get on my level.
uncut vault
literally nobody is saying maghar dks arent a thing
plain vigil
Our level*
uncut vault
AU maghar dks are not a thing with the current starting zone
plain vigil
Jhock is my giy
jovial skiff
You know what?
literally ANY race at ANY time can be a DK.
You know why?
Time travel.
plain vigil
LOL
terse patrol
no pls
jovial skiff
If Garrosh can go back in time and meet his own dad to be bros with and stop them from slurping demon juice some random dumb panda can get shot into the past and then murdered
and then raised
terse patrol
Zandalari, Kul Tirans, Dark Irons, and Maghar can easily be ass-pulled as DKs.
Zandalari were on Zul’Drak documenting the loa-killing and Scourge invasion before we even showed up there
in*
jovial skiff
Zandalari are almost everywhere you can find a troll
worlds biggest empire at some point or something
terse patrol
So? They can just say “you were a zandalari in Zul’Drak who got merc’d by the Scourge.”
plain vigil
Furbolg ar and possibly gnoll ar would work too if they become a thing.
jovial skiff
please no
jovial skiff
it would work i agree
but please no
plain vigil
Due to their updated models not being released
jovial skiff
Hey who gets the snake people from Vol Dun?
horde or ally?
jovial skiff
interesting
we had literally one quest with the snake bros
plain vigil
The sethrak want to forgive the faithless, the vulo want to kill all faithless
Easy division point
jovial skiff
so...
the lich king visited all lands with the scourge right?
surely some snake men got resurrected...
jovial skiff
rude of him
plain vigil
Kul'Tirans aided in the first scourge invasion
Dark iron existed
Some uncorrupted orcs existed
jovial skiff
I'm sure in the next xpac "Anger of the Bitch Queen" they'll rectify these things and update DKs
jovial skiff
sounds ghostie
source on this rumor?
or even any reason as to why they would do it?
plain vigil
More existentialism bt yea. Ghosts too i guess
Shadowlands?
The horde literally visit all the aspects of death in 8.1
An updated red dragon icon was datamined, hinting at mount
So that's life and death right there
Sylvanas is a thing
uncut vault
I mean, unless he suddenly appears and helps the zandalari against the kul tirans in a cutscene, and is never mentioned again
he isnt involved
jovial skiff
Zuldazar raid sounds super cool
I didnt really "predict" it but I expressed to some friends that having different bosses/dungeons for factions would be cool
but i didnt expect it so soon
plain vigil
Bwomsamdi's temple literally is in the shadow of the symbol of hakkar, a blood moon. Hakkar wants death. N'zoth isnt the one who got him to choose sykvanas. N'zoth wants to consume. He can't consume the dead.
jovial skiff
unless he can eat souls
how powerful even are old gods anyways?
We kinda stomp them every time we meet them
plain vigil
Also Rastakhan's body is Hakkar's dead skin and feathers
Now this is a stretch, but if hakkar is the first loa, he may be an old god or part of/ chikd of y'shaarj, but that's a stretch.
plain vigil
Hakkar the Soulflayer, the Blood God,[2] is a malevolent and destructive loa notably worshipped by the Gurubashi trolls, and known in the troll pantheon as the Loa of Blood.[3][4] He at one point controlled the Gurubashi Empire's fallen capital of Zul'Gurub.
He wants war so he can consume the souls
He wants the souls Bwomsamdi has saved up is my best guess.
jovial skiff
I like the blood trolls
jovial skiff
they could have been cooler than zandal trolls as a AR but i seriously doubt well get them
titans, probably
plain vigil
Serpent is an old god thing tho
jovial skiff
or a snake and a bird got rally drunk...
vocal sparrow
So I was digging though the new NPCs and I found this https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=145074/test-creature-mana-dwarf What the heck is a mana dwarf
(Don't bother looking at it, it's just a female dwarf parts of the SW plate, obvioulsy a place holder)
dapper talon
Was there textured model found for this icon on current 8.1 PTR?
Could be average Direhorn mount, unless linked to Zandalari race
vocal sparrow
https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=144965/ranger-velonara Oh hey I found one of Sylvanas's dark rangers for the Flashback in the heritage armor quest
vocal sparrow
Also there are men among the Night Elves sylvanas is rasing as Dark Rangers
uncut vault
can I get a link to that npc?
vocal sparrow
uncut vault
thanks
north storm
do the rangers have the blood elf dr model or a new night elven one ?
uncut vault
night elf, they seem to use DK skin tones
north storm
thanks
sullen dagger
morning guyse
sudden oak
@uncut vault tbh the quotes xal has for the priest looks like she is sympathetic to us
I am... glad -- we could spend time together again. You always were my favorite.
tropic trail
Is ptr up? If so what's there to do
ruby star
PTR is up! 😄 Though you'll need to switch from Direct 12 to Direct 11 (as Direct 12 causes errors) also I would not reccomend going to SIlvermoon it crashed and breaks your game.
sudden oak
it looks like Jarod is the recruitment officer in the darkshore warfront https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=145066/jarod-shadowsong
tulip sun
Woo
calm plank
yois
calm plank
now you can bone the knaifu
sudden oak
she is mine im her favorite
calm plank
lies
zealous basalt
No fock off
zealous basalt
She called me her hero
calm plank
that's obviously a lie since she told me I am her favorite
tulip sun
Hmm
calm plank
what proof do you have that she even like you
calm plank
obviously she's lying to you so you'll stop disturbing her with your silly questions
zealous basalt
Me ass
calm plank
also remember on the post that announced xal was back there was this guy who said he didn't like xal and got downvoted into oblivion
zealous basalt
Yes
calm plank
completly deserved
calm plank
don't insult the waifu
or she'll end your laifu
zealous basalt
Who is
sudden oak
please she doesnt need to do anything we will do it for her
calm plank
I would gladly end anyone who disrespect my knaifu
zealous basalt
She is waifu now
And what a waifu
Blizzard makes dreams come trur
...
Oh no
zealous basalt
Is Knaifu going to dethrone Bowsette
calm plank
I doubt it
sudden oak
I hope she does
sudden oak
Knaifu deserves the world and more
sudden oak
I say we destroy N'zoth and give his power to knaifu
calm plank
I'm up for it
sudden oak
even a beter idea lets give her the powers of all the old gods
zealous basalt
Knaifu for laifu
calm plank
even better idea let's give her the heart of azeroth
calm plank
guys I thought about something
sudden oak
and naarus for her to feed upon
zealous basalt
She has my heart already
calm plank
is the titan spirit of azeroth the WoW equivalent of earth-chan?
calm plank
deep lore my boy
zealous basalt
Not as deep as how deep she can go
tranquil steeple
that's.. what she.. said?
calm plank
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
guys I think I got the best idea ever
create a character that looks exactly like xal does
sudden oak
but still we need more husbandos
calm plank
and make her use xal
zealous basalt
Knaifu appreciation post?
sudden oak
I do miss Aluneth tbh
calm plank
aluneth got nothing compared to xal
sudden oak
daddy aluneth was great
zealous basalt
Aluneth in high elven form being the dick dad
calm plank
why can't blizzard just humanize all the concious artefacts
zealous basalt
OH GOD
calm plank
give the skull a body back
zealous basalt
NOT THE EREDAR
calm plank
yes the eredar
zealous basalt
HE IS GOING TO BE AN ASSHOLE
Honestly tho
If we ever have houses
I want all of those bois
calm plank
yes
calm plank
also someday I'd like it if we see the remnants of the legion
like a few eredar trying to keep it under control after the entire chain of command got killed
calm plank
alexa play despacito
sudden oak
oh yeah Delaryn
sudden oak
Sira is the leader of the dark wardens and delaryn of the dark rangers
zealous basalt
Nah
sudden oak
I dont think so
calm plank
I hope not
zealous basalt
She seems to have her own business with us
sudden oak
she will be the first and only allied void lord 
calm plank
imagine if we end up defeating N'zoth and then out of nowhere xal shows up steal all his power and fuck everything up
sullen dagger
Wat
calm plank
welcome to #beta-ptr-spoilers also known as waifu knaifu fan-club
tulip sun
I am just searching the database
I am excited for the lightforged
Even bring8ng out the warframes
calm plank
yois
zealous basalt
Can we take a time to appreciate knaifu
sudden oak
we are always doing that
calm plank
tbh we should all create a shrine in our home
that way we can always take time to appreciate n°1 waifu
calm plank
why talk about all those npcs when you can talk about Xal'atath
tranquil steeple
idk, sacrifices for Knaifu the Waifu?
hollow dock
Oh good
blizzard didn't forget the warmachines
and since those are functional
everyones bullshit theory of them needing argunite might be false
tulip sun
Who knows.
But I am glad to see them
I am assuming they'll be in darkshore with telaamon
Could be in Zyldazar or something too, idk.
hollow dock
are we not talking that
a certain knife
is an elf
@sudden oak Just letting you know, Sylvanas leads the Dark Rangers and then placed Nathanos in charge of that.
tulip sun
They were for like an hour, lol
Delaryn has the title Dark Ranger Captain
So she already is high up in rank
tulip sun
I am surprised the undead elves don't have red eyes
tulip sun
It doesn't seem like there are any generic undead wardens, yet.
hollow dock
There's only one that was raised
and no wardens were actually at Darkshore
almost typed theramore there
tulip sun
Oh?
I figured Sira and Maiev would've brought some
Suppose only Sira dies
But we do see normal warden at least
hollow dock
If there are more NPCs then maybe?
though this does break the Warden lore a bit
Wardens, when they die, become spirits of vengence widely attacking anything in sight.
tulip sun
Hm...
hollow dock
wildly*
So to have Sira raised and ya know.
not be a spirit of vengeance is...weird. to say the least.
tulip sun
Perhaps they just shoved it back in somehow e.e
tulip sun
They are losing in 8.1
hollow dock
they're still breaking established lore to get one upts
losing or winning
that complaint still exists for horde writing
tulip sun
We don't even k ow the details yet
hollow dock
We know that Sira dies
tulip sun
Wait until we see it to say it doesn't work
tulip sun
They may very well see this addressed
hollow dock
we had this discussion time and time again. and time and time again, it's exactly as we saw.
and they never address it.
Instead, as seen with Voss, they hide it
tulip sun
We will see what happens.
hollow dock
still responding with that same one line
tulip sun
Was there such thing as a plague knight previously
hollow dock
The fucks a plague knight
tulip sun
A new forsaken npc
hollow dock
My only guess is that it's a new plaguespreader-deal NPC
what's the 3d model look like?
hollow dock
it just looks like a forsaken deathknight
tulip sun
hollow dock
using pandaria deathknight gear to boot
hollow dock
Oh cool. the orcs are getting back on the genocide train
Yea. the plague was made for one thing and one thing only.
hollow dock
it's nice to see the horde going back to their roots.
tulip sun
Kaldras Snape
hollow dock
Also
zealous basalt
Big ass hoe
zealous basalt
He has blue eyes
hollow dock
oh those look green on my screen
zealous basalt
Zoom in
hollow dock
Oh they're teal
zealous basalt
They look green on me when seen from far
zealous basalt
And she loves us
tulip sun
Liadrin as a priest
zealous basalt
Yes
hollow dock
I never liked that set
unique crag
Liadrin looks good in cloth armor
hollow dock
the Khadgar set
zealous basalt
Before she went "casting sucks"
ruby star
Anasterian ❤
zealous basalt
"Melee ftw"
hollow dock
it always looked way to clunky
tulip sun
I also like that we see some of the dark rangers in the scenario as normal rangers
unique crag
red?
ruby star
Hopefully Silvermoon will be blue (when they go back in time)
zealous basalt
I dont like Sylvanas armor
Like
There is a windrunner armor
But yet they go with a mix
unique crag
@ruby star Silvermoon was always red, though?
ruby star
@unique crag Nope, I believe Silvermoon used to be blue, unless I am wrong 😛 @hollow dock ?
hollow dock
I don't actually know.
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hollow dock
yea that's brown
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Probably she forgot to tint it
zealous basalt
I would have to see new model
unique crag
This is her hair color in-game though
hollow dock
cuz Kael'thas' robes were always red
so Red was apart of the society
before blood elves
unique crag
wait, i have a something about that brb
zealous basalt
Forget them
hollow dock
Which makes me think old Quel'thalas was also just red.
hollow dock
No
cuz they dont have storylines
also Aluneth is an actual Elemental of arcane energy
unique crag
Silvermoon was constructed out of radiant white stone and adorned in crimson tapestry.
wow.gamepedia.com/Ilterendi,_Crown_Jewel_of_Silvermoon
Dath'remar building Silvermoon:
https://i.imgur.com/zbxKBWP.png
He no longer wore the purple and blue robes of the Kirin Tor, but the traditional crimson hues of his people (Arthas vs Kael'thas part)
- Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, pg 379.
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Dathremar was anasterian dad or ancestor?
hollow dock
ancestor
tulip sun
Ancestor
hollow dock
Dath'remar was the first Sunstrider we know of
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Ah
ruby star
Oh interesting
hollow dock
Cuz blood elves and high elves are actually muscular
unlike their in game model
Surprise Surprise
ingame models dont represent lore
hollow dock
See the four things I just posted
unique crag
You know, Silvermoon in Chronicle is kinda whitey but then again Sunwell is right in middle of the city
so i guess picture is non-canon
hollow dock
Isn't that Isle of Quel'danas?
zealous basalt
No idea
ruby star
Shame you can't do the Blood Elf scenario though
ruby star
Only a matter of time Des 😛
unique crag
From the look of datamined strings, it seems like Devs are trying to make it close as possible to how it happened in the Blood of the Highborne novel
There were novel-only NPCs added in 8.1
like Galell
hollow dock
so warcraft 3 iteration #324b instead of 324?
zealous basalt
Aha
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Its blue
unique crag
well looking at it again, its totally different so yeah non-canon
hollow dock
No
Dawn
don't say non-canon
cuz its not
it's canon
BUT
that' snot the sunwell
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So I its blue
ruby star
It looks stunning
hollow dock
As seen with Teldrassil.
tulip sun
They just need to recreate the in-game silvermoon. It would look absolutely amazing if updated to modern stuff
unique crag
It's really incosistent
hollow dock
yea the in game representation is always inconsistent to the actual look of it lorewise
unique crag
I also noticed I can't teleport into Silvermoon City in PTR, the game instantly crashes after loading screen finishes
zealous basalt
If the game was 100% accurate..
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It would be really heavy
hollow dock
and yea.
Everything is condensed
squished down
simplified
cuz the world blizzard actually envisions would takereally beefy PCs to run
and most manga artists only have the in game representations to go off of
So they end up making that.
ruby star
yeah don't go to Silvermoon @unique crag it crashes and breaks your game 😛 which I found out
unique crag
I wonder why
ruby star
probbaly Blood Elf scenario broke something?
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Which means no heritage
hollow dock
No heritage yet
what's happening nowis basically what blizzard feared
new tech is breaking old tech
ruby star
revamp Quel'thalas ❤
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It's kinda
unique crag
I would really love if they update Silvermoon with how they're building new cities lately like Suramar, Zuldazar, Boralus etc
zealous basalt
You can expect it because they be working with an old af BV
hollow dock
also I've noticed something that's inconsistent in game
Liadrin switches
her hair colors
constantly
unique crag
I think Lor'themar also switches his hair colors and his eye patches
hollow dock
Most of us don't
unique crag
Liadrin transmogged her weapon from Quel'dalar to Ashbringer to Unnamed unique sword in BfA, so she's into transmogging
maybe likes to change her hair colors
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C?
hollow dock
well the ashbringer thing wasn't canon
Why she's suddenly abandoned Quel'dalar is unknown
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Let the woman be a woman
hollow dock
hell its unknown how she even got Quel'dalar in the first place
hollow dock
can we not mix the memeing into actual discussion?
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Actual discussion
Belves got quel dolar first
Delar
And somehow she stole it?
hollow dock
there's no proof of that. at all. No one knows who got Quel'dalar first
unique crag
Does Chronicle mention the sword at all? could be pretty minor thing and not included
hollow dock
No it doesn't.
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Could be a placeholder?
hollow dock
The Quel'delar questline doesn't show any signsof first either and blizz has refrained from answering it
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Well, without an official answer we might never know
hollow dock
Hence why no one knows how she got Quel'delar in the first place.
People just assume she was the person who rebuilt it but now she ditched it
in league for her new sword
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Its going to be the biggest mystery
hollow dock
and shield. Even though Quel'delar is a One-and-a-half sword
so it can be used with a shield
unique crag
Halduron also had Sunwell legendary bow but he had Thos'daroh at Legion end somehow
hollow dock
well again as I said
the empowering thing isn't canon
at least the NPCs we see
aren't canon
it's supposed to be the other orderhall leaders
but ofc waiting for other players to do soemthing is a ballache so they just stuffed in NPCs to be stand ins
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Xal seems to be pissy about the whole empowering
unique crag
Yeah I guess that could be the case and I think Blizz just likes to slap cool looking weapons to Belves, like Quel'delar and Thori'dal even if it doesnt make sense
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Hope we can get some words like "oh, it was trivial"
hollow dock
blizz did address it and that was their response in a nutshell. They're not entirely canon representations, just stand ins for the cutscene and that's it
unique crag
So I also noticed Dwarves make their heritage armor from remnants of armor of Madoran, some king from their past
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Last high king of Ironforge
unique crag
I think Blood Elf heritage armor could be similar value and give them Lu'minellia which is armor of High Elven Kings or something
hollow dock
yea their armor is thatof the mountain kings
Which is a mix of magni andmuradin's armor
So I was right in that it represents specifically the bronzebeard dwarves.
zealous basalt
Well technically all the dwarves we create should be Bronzebeard
unique crag
Do you like how the armor looks like in-game? dwarf heritage armor?
zealous basalt
I do
hollow dock
yes I do
for various reasons other than 'It looks good'
IMO in the first time for the allied races, heritage armor is released that looks like all classes and professions would be wearing it
rather than the armor clearly leaning into a few classes over all.
For dwarves, remove the shoulders and helm andbam,
ruby star
Dwarf hertiage armour looks pretty awesome IMO 😄
hollow dock
It looks like every class the dwarves can be, would use that armor
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Also
unique crag
yeah i agree
hollow dock
Details like that ^
are why I think its the best heritage armor out there.
It's actually designed for and by the race it's coming from.
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Now the allied races heritage will look like
Kids play comparing to the story of these
...they are going to have it really hard for humans and orcs
hollow dock
Which honestly
I really hope that it is kept this way
the core races get true racial armor while the allied races get more ceremonial armor
ruby star
Do you think they'll still do humans and orcs? hertiage armour
unique crag
@zealous basalt Yeah It seemed like they make heritage armor based on how their models look like (Could be NSFW) https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/7gwob3/i_suddenly_get_why_the_heritage_armor_is_for_one/
unique crag
that's LFDraenei heritage on Belf
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Hey
Looks like the dragon rider...
Anyways
Why do these models have detailed butts
hollow dock
Personally I think that things like
the night warrior customization
are their heritage stuff
but at the same time
it's not labeled heritage
So. Only blizzard knows
hopefully in an upcoming Q&A they can clarify
unique crag
there's one coming?
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And tauren would be like
hollow dock
For Tauren, I'd hope at the bare minimum
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Cairne and baine
hollow dock
that we see the lead up to Carine
going to find thrall in the barrens
from the Centaur attacks
unique crag
that sounds good idea
hollow dock
things that are untouched by the pre-established games
tulip sun
I hope they continue story related customization like night warrior
hollow dock
that's what I want these heritage things to cover
Again i think those are the heritage stuff, Kham. So most likely.
zealous basalt
I like the concepts behind an heritage scenario like that
To remember each class why are they fighting for
Race*
I wonder if we will have a pandaren one
Something with Liu Lang I hope
unique crag
i think pandaren could be about how they got released and fought against mogu
zealous basalt
Watch a heritage feature being the use of old pandaren
The language that really sounds like language
hollow dock
anyways Im off guys. got D&D to go play. talk to y'all later
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No
unique crag
cya
tulip sun
I don't feel like night warrior is the nelf heritage
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It's kinda a forgotten and forbidden heritage
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It's just a customization option, like golden eyes for blood elves
tulip sun
Yup
If this stuff existed in burning crusade
The belves would've gotten their eyes through a quest I am sure
hollow dock
Yes but locking it behind a quest that feels like its a night elf heritage shtick is all. I really hope Im wromg and blizz says its not their heritage stuff
But blizz gimps the alliance more than the horde so.
/shrug
night swift
Holy shit those look good
terse patrol
@hollow dock do you accept our waifu in chief xal?