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heavy cairn Sep 13, 2018, 6:43 PM

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but it's actually facing east

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:43 PM

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Aliance right

languid yoke Sep 13, 2018, 6:43 PM

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well the bfa cinematics with continents turning blue/red kinda hinted at that happening

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:43 PM

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And we blow up

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Kul tiras, Zandalari, Kezan, Broken Isles

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And anything I'm the middle

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In

languid yoke Sep 13, 2018, 6:44 PM

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and pandas swimming around on a wounded, but healed turtle

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Lol

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Turtle soup

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 6:47 PM

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woke

heavy cairn Sep 13, 2018, 6:47 PM

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wow honk you're the fourth word in a wowhead article

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:48 PM

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You are famous now

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 6:48 PM

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All I did was bring it to their attention.

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Man the people on the scroll of lore are going to hunt you

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 6:49 PM

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📎 image0.png

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:50 PM

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What's that cute elf

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Olivia from Asobi Asobase. She dresses up like a “sexy alien spy” in a scene for a shitty school sci fi short film. That show is good for reaction images.

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zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Not an elf then?

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Nah

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 6:55 PM

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TRASH

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Ok so

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Let me get this straight

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Horde has a shitty prepatch writting

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Shitty writting for the maghar

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Both sides got pretty bad prepatch writing

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:00 PM

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And a dead loa

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 7:00 PM

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In game, at least

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:01 PM

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While Alliance gets all the warfronts?

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🤔

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I buy it

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I honestly want to see Anduin snapping tho

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I mean, biggest complaint about the faction war is that it’s always Horde acts, alliance reacts

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This gives the Alliance some proactive story points, finally

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Horde finally paying for their bs?

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I buy it double

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Finally Alliance is going to show Horde to not act like if the world belongs to them

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...what ir Sylvanas kills Taelia and makes Anduin go homicidal

hollow dock Sep 13, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Anduin won't go homocidal

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number 1

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Taelia and Anduin have no relationship. they've met. once.

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they aren't in love @zealous basalt

ruby star Sep 13, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Seems like the Andun and Arthas marching on Quel'thalas parrels is happning which is great

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:14 PM

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I'm here you dumb orc slaps

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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I hope Anduin is a war commander for Quel’thalas

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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And does it have to be in love to be pissed about a friend being killed

hollow dock Sep 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Anduin marching on Quel'thalas is absolutely nothing like Arthas

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what

ruby star Sep 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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I feel it will be Vereesa (Silver covenant) Halford (7th legion) and Alleria (Void Elves) as it seems warfront leaders bring in unquie troops

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Add Moria

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And make it being a all for all

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I mean, it should be a all vs all

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And finally make horde lose

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Because they wont hold against the full might of all the alliance

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And force all blood elves into void elves

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Oh yes

leaden garden Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Technically they shouldn't be surviving this war at all

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Make those bitches void slaves

leaden garden Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Between Gnome tech and things like the Vindicaar

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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coughs

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Sorry

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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I think southern Barrens will be the dwarf warfront

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:17 PM

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I got excited

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MAKE DARK IRONS DIG BELOW MULGORE AND MAKE IT SINK

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...coughs

karmic copper Sep 13, 2018, 7:21 PM

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what if jaina flood mulgore in the warfront like she wanted to do with or

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org

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that would explain why all the water is there

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:22 PM

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ACTUALLY

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LETS FUCK ALL FANTASY HAVE THE GNOMES MAKE ASSAULT RIFLES WITH FUCKING CHAINSAWS

strange falcon Sep 13, 2018, 7:24 PM

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you mean make a Gears of War crossover with WoW

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because these are the dudes with assault rifles with chainsaws on them

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:25 PM

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YES

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Ahh that was such a good game

hollow dock Sep 13, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Wait

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chainsaws exist already

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:33 PM

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WHY NOT ADD THEM INTO A RIFLE

hollow dock Sep 13, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Dwarves made a hammer into a gun

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or a gun into a hammer

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so I dont see why not

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 7:34 PM

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AND MAKE WOW REALLY GOREY

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AHH Im happy

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Finally

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I got tired of Alliance being the nice that don't do shit

karmic copper Sep 13, 2018, 7:58 PM

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i cant imagine the chinese version of a gorey wow

zealous basalt Sep 13, 2018, 8:00 PM

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If all

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In the chinese version

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It is censored

karmic copper Sep 13, 2018, 8:01 PM

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or replaced by bread and those hay golems

dense plover Sep 13, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Well damn

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Silver moon warfront

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If that actually happens, I’ll be genuinely surprised and happy

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Nah, it’s unlikely they’ll delve into anything in Quel’thalas 😛

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 8:54 PM

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📎 image0.png

dense plover Sep 13, 2018, 9:07 PM

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I know

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It’ll probably be eversong/ghostwoods

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Or maybe that still unused zone south of quelthalas

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Above the plaguelands

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I honestly don’t expect actual Silvermoon, and never really have. Would be really cool, but will likely end up as horde in eversong, Alliance in ghostlands

terse patrol Sep 13, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I could see the Alliance cleansing Deatholme and building their base over its ruins.

uncut vault Sep 13, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Give me new thas’alah Blizz

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Do it

dense plover Sep 14, 2018, 12:39 AM

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i want to see rebuilt windrunner spires

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Oh I see

heavy cairn Sep 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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it's called the "silvermoon warfront"

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I'm thinking silvermoon will be the Stromgarde of the warfront, (i.e. bigger and more poised for victory)

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and that deathholme thing makes sense, it's only that the warfront scenario would be way too big in that case

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unless they do something considerably different

strange falcon Sep 14, 2018, 11:33 AM

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"what do you call a tub full of paladins?"

heavy cairn Sep 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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idk

strange falcon Sep 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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a bubble bath @heavy cairn

stiff vector Sep 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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lets not get too excited about that warfront stuff

sudden oak Sep 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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...

stiff vector Sep 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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has been in since the first build of beta before arathi warfront was in that list

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probably just abandoned experiments if even that

sudden oak Sep 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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@strange falcon the paladins in my guild hate me, everytime they want to bubblehearth I move them with leap of faith GWqlabsKek

ruby star Sep 14, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Horde 56.7% Alliance 43.3% EU

44.6% allaince 55.4% Horde US

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the Alliance population has skyrocketed down D:

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 5:59 PM

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People dont have faith on their faction

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Can high elves be druids??

meager warren Sep 14, 2018, 6:12 PM

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The alliance pop has skyrocketted down?
Wat? i can't even

abstract cargo Sep 14, 2018, 6:33 PM

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@jovial coral High elves are prior name of blood elves, I am not sure lore-wise but in game they cannot.

meager warren Sep 14, 2018, 7:20 PM

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I'm pretty sure the first worgen were elven druids so they can lore-wise. Bliz just hates letting their fans have fun

sudden oak Sep 14, 2018, 7:24 PM

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im quite sure those were night elves druids

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Ye

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Night elf druids

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The druids of the pack

hollow dock Sep 14, 2018, 8:16 PM

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@jovial coral yes they can be druids.

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also, the pop drop of alliance is due to the power of horde racials

night swift Sep 14, 2018, 8:19 PM

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Lots of min maxers play horde because the horde just have a lot better racials than alliance

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Me asked

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To ion

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But asked something bout story because everyone was asking about the game system

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Do reddit notifies you if someone replies?

jade basalt Sep 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Yes

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Welp, most of the questions are 400+ so I give up

uncut vault Sep 14, 2018, 10:38 PM

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@ruby star where are those stats from, out of curiosity? its interesting info

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Think they are done with the AMA?

uncut vault Sep 14, 2018, 11:28 PM

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theyll probably say when

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but suffice to say, its quite the shitshow

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Im looking forward to the next T&E

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Might be a long time till they do the Q&A now

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 11:34 PM

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I just want to know what do they have planned for the future in terms of story and if they will do something about that inconsistence in the vanilla zones or would just leave them like that

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i suppose those aren't the questions they aren't looking for

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Yeah they'd probably reveal stuff like that at blizzcon

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 11:37 PM

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oh well

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 11:40 PM

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I was thinking it would be kinda cool if azerite started creeping up all over Azeroth in less quantities and as you level you'd collect it and finally use it somehow during Max level or whatever

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Improve the AI with some symbiosis response

zealous basalt Sep 14, 2018, 11:49 PM

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People are already crying with how the things are

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If you make a smart AI people will leave the game because the AI will fuck them all

jovial coral Sep 14, 2018, 11:50 PM

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If that's really the case they can make it a dumb AI with symbiosis response

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Symbiosis in the sense that the npc would use different spells or attacks depending on the class not necessarily spec

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But it's an idea they could build on and make better

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Or say if you hit an Earth elemental with enough fire damage it'll lash lava at you

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Hmm

jade basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Bee mount confirmed

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 12:34 AM

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inb(heh)4 it's a neutral mount

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cant have the horde missing out on cool stuff

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:35 AM

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where does it say

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 12:35 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9fv4tk/im_world_of_warcraft_game_director_ion/e5zwapk/

r/wow - I'm World of Warcraft Game Director Ion Hazzikostas, and I...

9,765 votes and 11,169 comments so far on Reddit

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:36 AM

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noshit

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Well

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I smells not a neutral

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 12:53 AM

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looks like this channel will be back in business soon

heavy cairn Sep 15, 2018, 12:54 AM

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I don't care about bee mount, I just want bee polymorph on my horde mage :(

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:54 AM

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How so Port

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 12:55 AM

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"As I mentioned at the outset of this AMA, this is a beginning of an ongoing conversation. In some of my responses today, I referred to plans for our upcoming content update. That patch will be coming to the PTR very soon, and we'll be doing a livestream on Tuesday, September 18 at 11am PDT on the Warcraft Twitch channel where we'll discuss the major pieces of content in the patch. I look forward to continuing the discussion."

heavy cairn Sep 15, 2018, 12:55 AM

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[makore] #latest-news-old

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Dragons pls :c

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Id mostly expect an announcement of the allied races, whatever new island/islands we're getting related to the naga, and potentially the zuldazar raid, if theyre still doing that

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 1:01 AM

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meh, just a void dream

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I should resignate about dragons in BfA and start thinking that Dragon Isles was just mentioned and will never be a thing

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Oh good they're taking a page from DE

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streaming dev builds =D

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 1:20 AM

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no u

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 2:10 AM

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oh, we might get warfront info too

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since ion admitted that more are needed to have the cycle feel right

heavy cairn Sep 15, 2018, 9:08 AM

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would be cool if there was always one up, i.e. once all 4 datamined warfronts are in

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but honestly they are probably going to pull something stupid with ilvl drop / reqs

ruby star Sep 15, 2018, 9:28 AM

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@uncut vault I got the stats from realm pop, As it's been updated for BFA

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Oh sweet

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Not the imbalance, the update

ruby star Sep 15, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Aye, it's quite interesting to look at

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Void elves already being more populated at 120 than four other alliance races says a lot about how Blizz didn’t really care about the faction blur and population stuff

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Maybe a certain other elven race would do good to help balance out the numbers 🤔

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Cause they certainly won’t be getting better through the xpac, with Zandalari and possibly vulpera

heavy cairn Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 AM

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I can hardly click the little part for Mag'har Orc lol

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Yah it’s hard lol

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 11:01 AM

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Dont say high elves for horde port

strange falcon Sep 15, 2018, 11:06 AM

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hIgH eLvEs FoR hOrDe

sudden oak Sep 15, 2018, 11:20 AM

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san'layn

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Wait

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Since when Dro is a fockin mod?

heavy cairn Sep 15, 2018, 11:49 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 11:51 AM

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maybe he was in mod training and that's why he's not been around often

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Now he is going to ban the people here in revenge

strange falcon Sep 15, 2018, 11:54 AM

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now he is a Helf supporter with mod powers

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prepare to be silenced! sad

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Oof

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 12:14 PM

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And alliance too

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Still cant believe he is a mod

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And to think he was a mortal few days ago

sullen dagger Sep 15, 2018, 3:36 PM

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dro¿

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Drorith

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Ye the HE nerdy boy

sullen dagger Sep 15, 2018, 3:45 PM

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ah

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 4:01 PM

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I still am sceptical on high elf for either faction.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 4:06 PM

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BAN

sullen dagger Sep 15, 2018, 4:17 PM

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tbh if blizz decides to give horde HE it's going to break so much lore

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Do you think blizzard cares

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 4:33 PM

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high elves are already in the alliance

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Like they are members of the alliance

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Yes

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But ban

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BAN

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Anything could happen. Examining everything they said and such, and looking at the gold eyes- I think the closest we will get, if anything at all, may be in fact blue for blood elves.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Hipnos14/status/1040754082577874949/photo/1

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Also wanted to share that

ruby star Sep 15, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Those concepts look pretty awesome for Broken and Mok'nathal! 😄

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:26 PM

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They do!

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I would play both

ruby star Sep 15, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Honestly I have to agree, Mok'nathal looks pretty badass, while broken seem pretty cool, I'd defiantily make one

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:27 PM

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If added

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I hope they don't try to make the females really pretty

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If added

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Lag o.O

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Oh no

ruby star Sep 15, 2018, 9:28 PM

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I feel like Mok'nathal would be pretty cool for horde, Their model looks pretty awesome not gonna lie

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Run

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Dro

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:32 PM

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What are you talking about Makore?

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But ya

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I suspect they will become a thing

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Dro is going to ban you because you are horde filth that doesnt like HE

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Just stop already please

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:34 PM

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What?

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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moknathol are very unlikely tbh

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there are very very very few of them

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definitely less than 100

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Numbers don't matter. If they want to yhey make a way

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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they somewhat matter

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lore wise they need to be a somewhat decent sized force

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void elves probably number in the low thousands in canon

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moknathol dont have even 100

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Peach

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Number doesn't matter

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Horde are a bunch of idiots that will lorebreak in order to get their stupid allied races

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It happened with the Mag'har

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There is nothing shit writting can do

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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maghar had a between several hundred and several thousand

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the entire force remaining on draenor came to azeroth

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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As i said

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nothing will stop shit writting

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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thats not shit writing though

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whats shit about that?

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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About mag'har?

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All the scenario

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Makore....can we not be like this?

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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oh

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you like yrel dont you

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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No

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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then whats the problem?

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its a lame scenario

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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I dislike the fact that they have to use a bronze dragon to break their own rules

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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It is not shit writing because you don't like the story

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Because apparently the horde character is too special

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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i mean

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time traveling requires bronze drakes

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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It is easy to see why they'd do it

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Yes

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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draenor is in a parallel timeline

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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And they said they weren't going to do that anymore

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its the same that kairoz did

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Why is it different?

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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no they didnt

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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They see, or at least could, see the future. Posibilities.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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I'll tell you why

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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they never said they wouldnt do that again

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Because Horde bias

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Maybe Maghar are needed

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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really?

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Yes

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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horde bias

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Really

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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we got recolored orcs

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Mag'har were never needed

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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people wanted them for RP

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Think for a moment and you can make theories.for why they do it, likely ones

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And ya

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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No Khamnin, the horde scenario is the worst writting ever

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Allied races in general are.great.for.rp

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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XD

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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If you can't see it, then you are really blind

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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someone didnt play actual warlords

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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And I meant the Mag'har

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Shit because the bronze or

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Elaborate pleasr

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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dude, the scenario writing isnt shit, its just lame

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Because the only moment they dare to add dragons, is to make a shitty scenario

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That's why

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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so we should never see dragons ever?

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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So it is the bronzr

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Honestly

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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also

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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With this kind of writting

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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You can't wrap your head around potential reasonings.

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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makore, dragon isles are likely

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I would be more glad if they just extinct all dragons

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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why?

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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It isn't shit though.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Because honestly, blizzard doesnt do what to do with them anymore

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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it sounds like you just dont like high fantasy

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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No no

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I love dragons

dense plover Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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i mean super strong magics

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I just can't stand what they are doing with them anymore

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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There are two reasons

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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First, you make them powerless, i was okay with that

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Not enough with it, you make them sterile for a shitty reason

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Either a good future requires the Maghar, maybe even the Botani or Saberon, and this was required to get that future.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Why¡? Why curse them to the extintion?

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Or this is the beginning of their corruption

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Wasn't making them powerless enough?

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I am not the one that is killing High Fantasy, blizzard is

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And I a afraid that they will add the dragon isles just to do some shit writting about them

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Or well

limber mural Sep 15, 2018, 9:48 PM

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the one eye-roller in the Mag'har scenario for me was the subtle as a brick 'I am my scars' reference

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Making Wrathion a boss somehow

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And not happy with that

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They go and kill Ysera.

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What

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Is every character that isn't relevant going to die?

limber mural Sep 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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well ysera can hardly be 'dead'

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she can come back basically whenever

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Then let's go and be dead everyone

limber mural Sep 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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cenarius was killed by Grom Hellscream and came back soon enough in the narrative

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I don't think Blizz is ever going to do that with Ysera

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And why pull her back?

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She is not the aspect anymore

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Dragons at this moment are just relevant for lame stuff

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But after everything, even a cockroach has more relevancy that the big winged lizards

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 9:52 PM

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if void elves were in the thousands, silvermoon would be in a state of crisis, because that's a large loss for a nation still on its first generation after near-genocide

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Silvermoon would be in political uproar, because thousands of people who turned to the void instead of the sunwell is a big deal

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Numbers don't matter.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Numbers dont matter to shitty writting

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Makore, go have a tantrum somewhere else. This is not the channel

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:54 PM

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You would be the same if you were alliance, horde boi

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:55 PM

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I play both.

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Just stop please.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Oh sure, you play both but still get feed with anything that says "Horde" no matter how lame or bad the thing is, Kham, from all the time I have been here, you have been acted that way, Horde would be a bunch of slaughterers but they are okay, eh?

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My issue is not the horde, but how bad they butchered something that Iliked that were the dragons, it would be have different if they pulled other sort of trick that didn't mean dragons

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Like some remnant of the nightwell

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Or delving into the deeps of the tomb of sargeras for the eye of aman thul

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but nope, let's butcher dragons, lets make them less relevant, but you have your mag'har

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Which in the end won't be relelvant to the war campaign.

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 9:59 PM

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You just refuse to see the possibilities. Having one dragon do this deed doesn't ruin anything.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Its not just one dragon

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Its the son of Nozdormu, the time lord

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He was the second most important member of the flight after Soridormi, but that meant shit

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 10:00 PM

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There are two solid reasons of why it happened I mentioned.

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Why it may have.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Good future with Mag'har

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The only future those beast are going to find is being overly destroyed along the rest of the Horde filth

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And Saberon and Botani? Those are going to slowly die when they find that Azeroth doesn't have enoughSpirit element

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 10:02 PM

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They obviously are not going to die out.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Either they wither or get killed by Horde

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Or in the worst aspect

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Just be forget

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forgotten*

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 10:03 PM

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I am done discussing this. It is pointless, it is not the place.to be rant about it.

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:03 PM

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No no, go ahead, how are they going to be "relevant" in a future

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Please, enlight me.

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How two of the invasive species of Draenor are going to be useful in Azeroth.

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Go ahead, you or peach, any of you, enlighten me.

rotund sorrel Sep 15, 2018, 10:07 PM

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@zealous basalt if they want to speculate, let them speculate. No need to fight over it

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:07 PM

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No Oryx, I just want them to tell me how are two invasive species useful

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 10:08 PM

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I mean, chances are theyre an unintended consequence of the portal, they clearly weren't with the maghar, they instantly flee

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:08 PM

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I know they are unintended

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All what Horde does is ruin stuff, they are masters of it, but Kham is so eager in saying that both would be useful in the future

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I want to know why

rotund sorrel Sep 15, 2018, 10:09 PM

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you can ask why in a more polite way

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:09 PM

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I am asking politely

rotund sorrel Sep 15, 2018, 10:10 PM

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"Go ahead, you or peach, any of you, enlighten me." doesn't sound polite

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 10:10 PM

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I did not say they would. I said it could be a potential reason for the bronze aiding. Perhaps the future requires Botani to do something or Saberon, and they knew they'd hitch a ride with the Mag'har

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Thus they help bring them over

uncut vault Sep 15, 2018, 10:10 PM

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I mean, we ally with a few botani and saberon in WoD

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get em as followers and big dudes that wander around our garrison

tulip sun Sep 15, 2018, 10:11 PM

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I am not saying we personally will see this, they. Would easily say it is very far in the future

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It is a possibility

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Either something like this or corruption of the Bronzes

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 10:23 PM

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Meh

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I suppose the second is viable

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I just gave up entirely on this

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Call it a rant or a whine

hollow dock Sep 15, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Remember Mak, if it's possible then it's excusable

zealous basalt Sep 15, 2018, 11:05 PM

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sigh

meager warren Sep 15, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Remember, Vris, if it's excusable,it's infuriating

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 12:19 AM

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doing the war campaign on my hunter, there are surviving sanlayn after the alliance attack

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https://i.gyazo.com/81de8dc1b40a353be1a6e49d6ca4f254.jpg

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 12:24 AM

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...

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Of course an indie company

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no but honestly, don't you feel

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that things spawn really fast?

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 12:26 AM

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thats on the horde side, after the alliance come and kill dreven

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Ah, i thought they were glitched

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they look like if they were casting something

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 12:30 AM

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they are, they're keeping the ship afloat

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big blood orbs

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 12:30 AM

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ah

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Custom ships and ship housing when, bliz?

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 12:33 AM

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2morrow

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Imagine

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How cruel would they be

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If they announce housing

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In april's fool

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Ooof

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Technically they already tried housing but it was disgusting

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 1:11 AM

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they Did try

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and they've said that's the best you'll get

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 1:42 AM

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If that's so, they barely tried

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Almost every expac is better than WoD

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And the housing wasn't even housing

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 4:16 AM

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They didn't barely try lol.

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housing would work exactly as the garrison did

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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yo vris

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 5:19 AM

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They didn't try hard enough then

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The housing concept of garrisons is awful. 100℅

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 5:40 AM

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I really hope we get ship housing

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Like, custom ships that can fly/ and/ or go under/ overwater

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 5:44 AM

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you wish too much m8

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Bliz hates letting their customers have fun

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I can hope tho

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 11:48 AM

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They dont tho

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Like

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Its a meme

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A bad 9ne

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But they dont hate letting us have fun just because they want us to be social in a game thats main focus is being social

lucid steeple Sep 16, 2018, 11:50 AM

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do they still plan to let people play as the Kul'tirens

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Yes, they’re probably getting officially announced on Tuesday

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

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I hope we get a patch trailer

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The main source of new content will be the new land mass, ideally - nazjatar

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 12:57 PM

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hmmmm

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on the one hand, I would find it weird if 8.1 is not at Blizzcon, and 8.0.5 tuesday

on the other hand, people are unsatisfied with BFA release, and I dunno if an 8.0.5 would fix it

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 12:57 PM

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They already said it’s 8.1 Tuesday

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Like, literally stated it was 8.1

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 12:57 PM

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Wowhead said it, where did Blizzard?

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 12:58 PM

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In the post blizzard made I think

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Gimme a sec

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 12:58 PM

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alright. the only post I know is

With Battle for Azeroth in full swing, we’re sitting down with Game Director Ion Hazzikostas to get a peek at the next content update.

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and the AMA post said it with the same wording

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Yeah I’m wrong

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As I mentioned at the outset of this AMA, this is a beginning of an ongoing conversation. In some of my responses today, I referred to plans for our upcoming content update. That patch will be coming to the PTR very soon, and we'll be doing a livestream on Tuesday, September 18 at 11am PDT on the Warcraft Twitch channel where we'll discuss the major pieces of content in the patch. I look forward to continuing the discussion.

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But

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.0.5 generally isn’t a content update

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So it’s still very likely this is 8.1

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Ooooor

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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I find it possible, but 7.1.5 and 7.3.5 were quite big

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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The 0.5 update will have decent content

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Imo peech

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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We shall see Tuesday

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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.5 could be better

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With .1.0 coming blizzcon

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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7.1.5 had the Brawler's Guild, MoP Timewalking, and 7.3.5 had Old World Scaling, Allied Races, Ulduar Timewalking

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Wi5h a bug of a hell trailer

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Bug

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Big

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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I want nazjatar. I just don’t want to wait. You’re probably right about it not being .1

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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I want it to be 8.1.0 and Nazjatar too.

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but hey

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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What if

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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I'm not Blizzard

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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This comes with a micro raid?

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I loved those

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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8.0.5 with Micro Raid could be interesting.

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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But imo they should be the same ilvl from current tier

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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7.1 is more of a .0.5 update in today's terms, I can see that occurring

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would be cool if we got Draenor Timewalking too :)

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though that might be 8.1.5, considering MoP Timewalking was 7.1.5

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Although

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What will happen with mythic race?

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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The Mythic race will be over by the time next patch comes out

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PTR usually is like 1 month, and we don't even have PTR yet

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Oh

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Ya

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:05 PM

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plus they never let you enter the raid a patch adds until a few weeks later

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I don't even think ToV was open the day the patch released.

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Return to Karazhan was though, just a mega-dungeon

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Was return 7.1.5?

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Or .5?

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 1:06 PM

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nah, was 7.1.0

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I don't consider kara or ToV big enough to be a "major" patch, considering they are just side dungeons / raids that do not progress the main story (or gear acquisition) at all

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might as well have been in 7.0.5, but the "minor" patch thing didn't start until 7.1.5

terse patrol Sep 16, 2018, 2:08 PM

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I imagine PTR may launch on Tuesday, or a bit later

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And hit live early october

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Mid october*

tulip sun Sep 16, 2018, 2:52 PM

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PTR for 8.1?

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Hyes

jade basalt Sep 16, 2018, 3:47 PM

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@dense plover We're very likely to get a Patch trailer, that's what they did with 7.1 as well.

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As for Ion not explicitly saying "8.1" but "patch" in public.. trust me, it's 8.1, wink wink. 😛

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 3:49 PM

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its gotta be

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theyre planning to talk about major content

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 5:00 PM

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@hollow dock what does our being social have to do with fun

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Also, clearly that'snot true since it's possible to solo shit from vanilla to legion and some of BfA

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 5:11 PM

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You can't solo any BFA dungeons.

Social and interacting with people is the whole point to playing an MMO

heavy cairn Sep 16, 2018, 5:53 PM

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7.1's "trailer" was more of a teaser

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if you recall, it was just showing a scared human running from something scary right outside of Karazhan

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yes, 7.1 did have a trailer, but it wasn't until later

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teaser (August 19th)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es3EjmAtSLo

YouTube

World of Warcraft

Return to Karazhan

Something stirs in Karazhan. http://WoWLegion.com Subscribe! http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=WorldofWarcraft

▶ Play video

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trailer (September 3rd)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxiofX97_G0

YouTube

World of Warcraft

Patch 7.1: Return to Karazhan Preview

Patch 7.1: Return to Karazhan will open the way to new opportunities for players to venture further into the ongoing stories within Legion and face new and e...

▶ Play video

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though I supose you're right in that this would be the correct time frame for a trailer

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it's just that 7.1 in general was super weird in that it was announced before legion even came out

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 6:14 PM

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@hollow dock but WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH FUN

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 6:15 PM

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People arent fun anymore

meager warren Sep 16, 2018, 6:51 PM

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^

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Stop playing an MMO then and go play Witcher 3

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Make me

ruby star Sep 16, 2018, 9:17 PM

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@dense plover referring to the leaked IG warfronts, Do you think they'll have different race style armour and weapons if they happen (Depending on what area in azeroth)?

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 9:18 PM

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maybe?

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i dont think theyre going to all be the same

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considering this first one is orcs v humans, and the armor matches, maybe the next (most likely barrens) will be tauren v night elves

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or tauren v dwarves

ruby star Sep 16, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Aye true, I could see that happening, That could be a great way of adding cool unique looking armour and would make sense

dense plover Sep 16, 2018, 9:21 PM

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considering we get only 4 raid sets, it would be weird to not have that art made up somewhere

ruby star Sep 16, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Yeah, perhaps those new night elf armour that got added might get used for a certain warfront

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Ei peoe

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Peoe

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People *

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What other mmo has a mythic race as famous as wow?

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 9:43 PM

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None that Im aware of)

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since no other MMO has a PVE progression like WoW)

zealous basalt Sep 16, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Ah

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 10:03 PM

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I’m betting, and hoping, that each warfront set comes with two PvP seasons, same way Legion did

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Since there’s a convenient 3 sets that match up with the PvP sets not yet implemented

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 10:04 PM

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what's the other two?

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 10:06 PM

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T2 and 3 Silver/Black, and t1 copper/red

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Current season is t1 Silver/Black and t2 and 3 copper/red

hollow dock Sep 16, 2018, 10:07 PM

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For which side?...

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Silver/copper is Alliance, Black/red is horde

night swift Sep 16, 2018, 10:08 PM

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i know the t3 warfront sets have the elite glad recolors

uncut vault Sep 16, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Yeah, warfront gives all tiers of the gold for alliance and dark red for horde

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 5:40 AM

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[makore] well I don't think any MMO is as famous as wow so I don't think a PVE race could be either

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I think it's wrong to say no MMO has a progression system like WoW though, for example FFXIV is pretty much the same but with less RNG and not as many raid difficulties (2, or you could argue 3; instead of 4)

zealous basalt Sep 17, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Ah

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 5:42 AM

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raids have a "normal" and "savage" difficulty in FFXIV, though each only has 4 bosses. I would say savage is somewhere between heroic and mythic in difficulty but I've never actually done one of them. and normal is between LFR and normal (but you queue like LFR) in that you can actually fail but you don't really need to read a dungeon journal or guide

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I just know that PUGs have some success in the early days which is why I don't say it's equal to wow mythic

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something more recent that has a lot more notoriety is an "ultimate" difficulty that comes out every few patches, and it's of different bosses from the "savage" and "normal" difficulties

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I'd say it's harder than wow mythic but I haven't raided those either, only seen videos

zealous basalt Sep 17, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I see

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 5:50 AM

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I think, if the game was more popular, the ultimate race would be a bit more of a race than the mythic race. ultimate is basically one encounter, but it's stuffed with like 4+ bosses each with quite challenging mechanics. you need to perfectly execute everything and you have to start all over if you wipe. this means that there's only one "world first", there's not a situation where, say, "world first mythrax" goes to a different guild from "world first g'huun". it would just be "world first uldir" basically.

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so you don't really get any kill videos / screenshots / whatever until the whole raid is done.

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:07 PM

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but do those raids last an entire patch cycle, @heavy cairn ? It sounds as if those would be implemented 2-3 at a time while WoW has its one raid.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:07 PM

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well

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so each FFXIV expansion seems to have 3 raids, 4 bosses each. this latest expansion has the ultimate raids as well, one really long boss; two so far, I would guess there will be a 3rd before the next expansion.
each raid is meant to last for the patch it is implemented in and the next patch as well

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4.0 added a normal/savage raid, 4.1 added an ultimate raid, 4.2 added a normal/savage raid, 4.3 added an ultimate raid, 4.4 is adding a normal/savage raid (patch releasing tomorrow)

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the weekly lockout for gear tokens is removed after two of those major patches, e.g. 4.2 made the 4.0 raid lockout go away

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IIRC

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:10 PM

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So.

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That doesn't really answer the question

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as I have no idea how long these patches last

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:10 PM

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oh

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:10 PM

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I don't play FFXIV

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:10 PM

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well, patches are shorter than wow

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there are usually 5 per expansion

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rather than 3

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expansion is 2 years, like wow

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

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and that's full content patches correct?

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

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indeed

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

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ok. So yea they cme out at a much faster pace than WoW

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

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yea

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there are also like halfway patches

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similar to wow X.Y.5

but much bigger. usually just adds casual content tho

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Trade off being that the raids/raid bosses go by a lot faster than WoW.

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Where WW has 3-4 big raids that people spend months on progressing, FFXIV has 5, maybe six, of raids that last maybe a month or two. Am I getting it right?

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:12 PM

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that's correct

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for the hardcore progression

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FFXIV also has some easier content, and some individual bosses each major patch that I would rate between normal and heroic (from personal experience)

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most raids are 8 player only, but on a regular basis there are LFR-level raids that have 24 players

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and also there are "extreme trials", as I said between normal and heroic, a single boss that drops tokens for a unique mount and weapon

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Granted that it's coming from someone who hasn't played it, or has any interest in playing it, but it does sound like the PVE progression systems aren't all that similar. One's focusing more on quantity while the other focuses more on quality. Making each boss fight difficult in its own right versus just making a bunch of bosses to a single fight to create that Ornstein and Smough artifical difficulty.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:15 PM

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that's only ultimate

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Well since we're speaking of the mythic race

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wouldn't that be fair to jjudge highest tier of progression versus the other?

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:16 PM

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fair enough

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iirc though ultimate isn't what nets you gear

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it's just there to be a challenge and give you unique weapons

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savage is where the best armor comes from

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that's why I am reluctant to exclude the rest of the game from the "progression" path

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:17 PM

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And that's why I would safely say that it's still not that similar to WoW's progression path. It's a very linear, "Normal Dungeon, Heroic, Mythic dungeons into either raiding at normal into heroic and into mythic or spamming mythic+ dungeons" all for gear progression.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:17 PM

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ah, I see what you mean

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:18 PM

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andwhen comparing the top level of play, Savage just seems like Heroic out of SWTOR. Where the bosses have more health and maybe an extra mechanic. Which was just WoW's old heroic.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:18 PM

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no, savage bosses are more than that

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they really are

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there are extra phases like WoW mythic, there is definitely more than one extra mechanic as well

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Again, I emphasise that I haven't done or seen anything about it. Just your words are my context.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:19 PM

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yea, I see

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I think an issue in this conversation is also that I was calling the game similar in progression based on personal experience (I did play FFXIV), but I didn't actually do savage or ultimate

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:21 PM

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ah ok. So neither of us really know what the heck we're talkin about

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:21 PM

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yea lol

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for me, progression was to get me into an extreme trial, and kinda ended there

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just like I don't do Mythic raids in WoW

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Well, to compare another MMO onto WoW's progression system or the Mythic Race would be to say the systems are well. actually similar. Buck stops at that difficulty and the community loves watching the top tier players that no life it race against each other to secure that world first.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:23 PM

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I don't consider the systems dissimilar but I can see what differences there are

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the top tiers definitely aren't just a harder copy of the lower tiers, unlike WoW

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:24 PM

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Mythic isn't a copy of say normal either.

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:24 PM

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ya, but you get the same gear just higher ilvl

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Not even.

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Mythic has it's own special look that isn't a recolor

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Like the argus scythe is red on mythic. Not blue

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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alright

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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the transmog that is. to match the sargeras phase you get

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 12:27 PM

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well... the reason I was using that was more of gear stats and gear slots, I guess there's not really a comparison within wow

zealous basalt Sep 17, 2018, 12:34 PM

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This gear appearance differences between difficulties

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Just lasted 2 xpacs

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Wasnt it well received?

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 1:13 PM

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pretty sure

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though I personally dislike that you can't get LFR appearances from a source other than LFR

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mainly because they always neglect to add an NPC for LFR until a later time in the next expansion

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 1:33 PM

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That's kind of the point though isn't it?

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You can't get this gear anywhere else, which makes the tint more special

heavy cairn Sep 17, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I mean, if they at least added an NPC immediately, at the beginning of an expansion, sure

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but it's so weird that you can't farm it after the expansion when you can do it on higher difficulties

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to me

vagrant geode Sep 17, 2018, 2:21 PM

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it would be nice if blizzard finally fix warlocks. Like Unending Resolve fix.

strange falcon Sep 17, 2018, 2:30 PM

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they still have shamans and shadowpriests to fix

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one at a time

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 3:06 PM

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I mean.

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It's not meant to be solo'd then.

#

Like now in BFA you can barely solo normal EN.

#

Also Dafire

#

Shamans are fixed

#

They literally just needed gear.

strange falcon Sep 17, 2018, 3:15 PM

#

idk blizz still wants to buff them in 8.1

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 3:15 PM

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As a response to the outcry of people not understanding how scaling works

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

strange falcon Sep 17, 2018, 3:16 PM

#

also i believe shams are broken mechanically

#

not dmg wise

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 3:20 PM

#

if they were broken strickly by mechanics, which I can only assume means they don't work, how are they doing well on damage?...

languid yoke Sep 17, 2018, 3:31 PM

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they can be mechanically shit/boring but still do damage

#

just like how classes work mechanically but deal no damage at all

#

(hi demonology)

hollow dock Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

OK

#

being boring

#

or not fun

#

isn't it being broken

zealous basalt Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

Rogue Sub is boring

#

And deals a lot of damage

#

It seems liek a rule tbh

#

Boring= Big dick dps

languid yoke Sep 17, 2018, 4:02 PM

#

sub is not a real spec

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

Someone in PuG said Void Elves only lived 500 years

#

Asks for source

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"Lots of people say it"

strange falcon Sep 18, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

best source 10/10 IGN

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

cries

#

Why

#

What happened to the natural selection

strange falcon Sep 18, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

it's failing because neckbeards e.e

#

and basements

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 2:18 AM

#

I don't think being a Void Elf alters your natural lifetime

#

or, if anything, it increases it

#

your actual lifetime though, yea, you're probably not living for too long before you succumb to the void

#

less than 500 years, I'd wager :)

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 2:19 AM

#

They were memeing

#

I HOPE

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 2:20 AM

#

player characters have like 1003 lifetimes (maybe some more, but I remember these) so I don't think lifetimes really matter. plus they could probably ask one of the many godlike creatures they assisted for more lives if they expended those.

#

1 you were born with
1000 lifetimes from a burning tree in hyjal
2 lifetimes from vethir

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 2:24 AM

#

AKR

#

I KNOW

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 2:28 AM

#

originally high elves only lived to be roughly 300-400 years of age. Now, when it comes to others like say Anasterian, the aging effects those who were still tied to the well's power differently than those born after that had been severed

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 2:30 AM

#

OKAY IT WAS A MEME YOU ALL

uncut vault Sep 18, 2018, 2:47 AM

#

was like that before a good war reaffirmed the oooooooold lore that high elves were also immortal

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 2:47 AM

#

facedesks

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 2:52 AM

#

Oh they were? that's good.

#

I guess the aged High elves we see in Legends aren't entirely canon then. If they were immortal, they wouldn't be showing off that aging

steel venture Sep 18, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

IIRC: The baseline for every elven race is now, "They'll live for at least several thousand years before croaking."

#

Which, puts them at anywhere from a 2,000-9,000 range, probably. By default, without any extra magical mumbo extending their lifespans.

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 11:47 AM

#

It's always been "several thousand years".

#

Anasterian was considered old at 3000 years old.

#

But then suddenly A Good War has a freaking 7 000 years old blood elf looking like a young chap.

#

The guy even remembers the initial settling of Tirisfal..

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 11:48 AM

#

cries

#

It was a meme

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 11:50 AM

#

And it's completely silly, the whole point of high/blood elves is that they traveled away, settled somewhere else, became mortal (as in subject to disease and stuff), developed a new society, new beliefs. They're supposed to descend from night elves, whom they would see as their very distant kin. Their ancestors. They're supposed to have books and scrolls and distant knowledge of these events, of their exile, of their settling Quel'Thalas once upon a time.

They're not supposed to have lived them. They're not supposed to have a night elf as their friggin father/grandpa or whatever is now possible.

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 12:17 PM

#

I mean, did it really take then four thousand years to reach the area now known as Eversong for Anasterian to create the Sunwell plateau? If he was old at 3000 years and all and seemingly a young man at the creation of the cities we know today.

#

@zealous basalt We're just having fun discussing. Chill.

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 12:51 PM

#

Ik vris

#

I'm just messing

strange falcon Sep 18, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

Last Defender now has a cap of up to 50% reduction in damage taken. called it! @zealous basalt

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

Hmm

#

How many mobs for that

#

17 mobs before you reach cap

#

Its not bad

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:36 PM

#

Uh

#

Think Blizzard will continue with the mystery of the lost gnomes?

terse patrol Sep 18, 2018, 5:44 PM

#

Prolly

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

Yes.

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

I hope

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

100%.

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

Imagine having a whole area down below Kul'tiras

#

Gnomish engineering

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

They developed dozens and dozens of gnome assets, buildings and doodads. And they were only used in :

1. a scrapped (or pushed back) "MechagnomeIsland"
1. a subzone in Tiragarde which consists in an entire gnome mini-town, which a questline visits, and which ends in a "Oh well, there was a population of gnome here but it looks like they vanished, I'll contact you when I find more information !"

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

Ye

#

I passed that zone

#

That's a nice cliffhanger

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

So A) it would be a waste if they didn't explore that further, there has to be a purpose to all these assets B) if that does not sound like foreshadowing, I don't know what does.

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

Imagine a mini raid there

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:23 PM

#

is the new patch 8.0.5 or 8.1?

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:23 PM

#

8.1

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:23 PM

#

oh

#

is it just gonna be a boring ole minor patch?

#

isnt the name tides of vengeance or something? thats what i heard

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

it is NOT minor

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

Minor

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

Nope. 2 raids, warfront, Darkshore revamp, heritage armor for blood elves and dwarves.

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

yes

#

it's minor

#

don't tell her

#

let her find out

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

well

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

It's 100% minor

#

nothing big

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

i was expecting atleast a new zone

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

this is #beta-ptr-spoilers

jade basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

Well that's weird. No trailer. No promo art.

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

spoilers

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

It's minor Kiffi

#

no zones

#

no raids

#

nothing

#

it's just azerite updates

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

trailer and art probably in blizzcon

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

=)

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

well shit

#

i was expecting something good

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

Yea nothing good

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

des is lying

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

Im am not

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

https://www.wowhead.com/news=287254/liveblog-of-the-upcoming-battle-for-azeroth-content-update-with-ion-hazzikostas

Wowhead

Liveblog of the Upcoming Battle for Azeroth Content Update with Io...

Ion will be revealing what's next in Battle for Azeroth with a special stream at 11 Pacific!

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

how dare you

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:24 PM

#

read that

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

i wanted my goddamn Revenge of Gnomeregan patch

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

Don't read that

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

YOU DISSAPOINT ME, ION!

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

Nothing happens

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

it's not revenge of gnomeregan but there are 2 raids

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

Well

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

It's a lie

#

fake news

#

FAKE NEWS MEDIA

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

Tbh

#

Des

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

ion is hiding the truth

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

If this is minor

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

it will actually be Revenge of Gnomeregan

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

I don't want to see major patches

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

also blood elf and dwarf heritage armor

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

yes i saw

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ @ kiff

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

dwarf one looks cccccccol and

#

@karmic copper

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

oh you pinged a random person des

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

THat

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

No I didn't

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

ye

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

and I know how to ping ya

#

didn't want to ping ya

#

you're right here

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

RIGHT HERE

#

ok but

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

you pinged someone named "ki"

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

Revenge of Gnomeregan patch 8.2

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

Proof

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

thats what it is now

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

or it iddn't happen

#

Nope

#

Azshara most likely

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

patch 8.2 will be Revenge of Gnomeregan patch

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

nah I think 8.2 is probably underwater broken shore, with azshara as raid boss

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

There doesn't need to be a revenge of Gnomeregan

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

an entire patch dedicated to one starter zone and dungeon!! wow so epic cant wait

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

Like that got solved in the dungeon

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

there DOES need to be a Revenge of Gnomeregan patch

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

severaltimes

#

its just heavily irradiated to live in

tropic trail Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

So, better than expected, I would say, all things considered.

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

then why dont they just cleanse it in patch 8.2 Revenge of Gnomeregan!

#

right?

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

#

Why does it need to be revenge?

#

revenge against who?

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

Against the naga

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

for what?

#

Naga can't reach Gnomeregan

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

they now have stolen flying machines

#

so they can

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

facepalms

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

theres also flying sea serpents

#

they could use those

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:29 PM

#

those dont fly

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:29 PM

#

A sea serpent

#

That flies

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

the worms then

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

they dont fly either

#

the naga dont have anything that fly

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

but

#

doesn't that one naga boss drop a flying worm?

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

THE WOOOOOOOOORms

#

yes

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

...That sounds like

#

Gears of war like

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

but i guess the naga cant really... sit on them

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

Mounts aren't all that canon tbh.

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

#

you know their tails

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:31 PM

#

Unless its canon that some Ironbound titan dragon got impressed with entire raids of people going through Ulduar and decided to abandon their homes and go with those people

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:32 PM

#

well

#

what if titan keepers are impressed, and give us the ironbound dragon

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:32 PM

#

How did Mei Francis mail us a bear? and a dragon?

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

You tame them ofc

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

they mail the reins

#

duh

#

just like leatherworkers craft saddles, not mooses

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

and suddenly the animal appear in those reins?

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

hot damn

#

just now watching the 8.1 stream

#

it literally explains all of the things

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

yes it's sweet

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

OH SHIT

#

baseline heritage armor?

#

fuck yes

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

yup

#

just 2 right now

#

but more on the way

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

its a start though

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

Expertly done on their part

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

I think the fact that we get all this now indicates 8.2 is going to be huge and announced in great detail at blizzcon

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

yep

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

Also kul Tirans next patch

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

also i guess naga are waiting until 8.2

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

HAH

#

I TOLD YOU DES

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

Told me what?

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

naga https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/blog/images/14702.jpg

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Told you we were going to have a lead on

#

2 aszhara

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

oh

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

You hadn't? O.o

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

a mini raid

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

medid

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Show

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

mini raid is after the mega raid

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Fuc

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

cuz I don't really remember that

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

sek

#

i don't remember when were we memeing about multi bosses

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

uldir 8 boss -> zuldazar 9 boss -> crucible of storms 2 boss -> ??

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

After crucible it's certainly azshara

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

dat undead warfront gear tho

#

huh

#

darkshore warfront

#

not what i expected

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Oh well i give you this

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

I hope the night elf gear is just what the npcs wear

#

and nothing more

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

zuldazar raid?

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

BUT YEAH

#

WE ARE STRIKING HORDE

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

huh

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

well

#

More like

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

also those warfront leaks

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

SHOWING THEM TO NOT FUCK WITH US M8Z

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

yes

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

zuldazar raid has faction specific stuff

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

zuldazar raid

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

man, what is the raid for horde?

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

ResidentSleeper

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

raid on zuldazar

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

zuldazar is our city tho

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

and that other one

#

the mini raid

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

Yeah

#

you defend

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

yes but

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

we attack

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

is bwonsamdi the bad guy?

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

It's a two pronged war peach

#

No

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

A new raid will be coming called the Siege of Zuldazar (Name not final but location final) with 9 total bosses.
This is something new to WoW which is a raid that is different from each faction.
The Alliance will land at the docks and work their way up the pyramid (and seeing new locations inside) and work their way up to Rastakhan.
Horde will start North of the pyramid and work their way to Rastakhan (which is the midpoint of the raid). Then you'll work your way to the docks and fight against Alliance commanders including Jaina on the high seas!
Once your raid is complete, you can talk to your scouts to get information on the other factions movements which allows you to fight the other 3 unique bosses that you haven't fought yet.

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

It's the alliance plan being launched

#

We do our raid

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

huh

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

they fight us off

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

so its two separate raids

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

yup

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

same instance

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

and you get to see the other side

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

different encounters

#

so two mythic races then

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

AND THEN WE CAN BE BOSSES LIKE IN DARK SOULS

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

No Mak

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

I thought looking at the other side was just a scenario

#

not a raid

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

no?

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

it's a scenario

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

aw

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

we getting city island!

#

finally

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

where we fight NPCs

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

havenwood!

#

its coming back!

#

hooray!

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

But as a isle expedition

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

thats what it was for

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

Fight against Jaina more like put up with ten minutes of "omg Jaina is so strong how could we possibly ever win"

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

it was in the islands trailer

#

and then dropped

#

dev on twitter said it wasnt good for the content they were doing

#

decided to sideline until it was ready

#

now its coming

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

yea they like dropping islands

#

poor <whatever legion island was called> and <wow I can't even remember netherstorm's island>

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

I mean, Sax.

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

i love all the island improvements

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

lots of people dont like them

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

She's a very powerful mage with the strongest fleet at her back

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

(shown by the chat)

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

wait

#

are there worgen updates?

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

Not yet

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

damn

#

only thing that would 100% win public favor

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

they didn't mention it

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

Also the code here: /run for i=5,12 do local n,d = C_ContributionCollector.GetName(i), C_ContributionCollector.GetDescription(i) if n ~= "" then print(n..": "..d) end end

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

oh

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

Doesn't spoil the darkshore warfront

#

so

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

raid is zuldazar

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

Me thinks they are just abandoned ideas

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

not dazar alor

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

...Peach

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

it is dazar alor

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

It's launching an attack on the zandalari fleet

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

so the temple below dazar alor is one part

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

We end in the piramid

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

like we just told you

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

Like

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

yeah it ends in dazar alor

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

The end boss of Alliance is

#

Rastakhan

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

but it takes place over the greater part of the city

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

horde starts north of pyramid probably within dazaralor, alliance starts on the docks that are part of dazaralor

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

ofc it is

#

he is gonna die

#

talanji takes over

#

that cinematic from b4 with voljin and the dagger

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

I'm a bit confused on what they mean with the faction mog stuff, will it just be unlocked for everyone or is it account wide?

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

when is this coming to ptr?

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

account wide

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

eeeee

#

shrugs

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

once you earn it

#

most likely

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

Soon ™

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

And Des, I know, I'm just not personally a fan of a lot of the stuff going on with Jaina, but I won't go into it

#

Okay sweet

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

📎 14707.png

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

Good to know I didn't spend a day killing fuckers in The Pit for nothing

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

...AND MORE

#

that more would be REVENGE OF GNOMEREGAN

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

wait

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

It makes it seem like they forgot there was more

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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is the raid only 6 bosses?

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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9

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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and then there is the 2 boss raid?

karmic copper Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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i think

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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oh

frozen dust Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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"Oh wait shit there's more"

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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3 of the bosses are the same for both

uncut vault Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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3 horde ones, 3 alliance ones, 3 both

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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oh no

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other way

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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wait what

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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6 both

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3 horde, 3 alliance

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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6+3

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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9 each

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:42 PM

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I thought it was 6 both bosses, 3 horde/alliance; you get to see other faction's 3 in a casual scenario

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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no, its 9 in total

hollow dock Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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She's the first heir to the proudmoore bloodline, she's got titan powers in her staff, her staff is of antonidas, what's there not to like about her? that she's not some monster to say the alliance is evil or something? :p

ruby star Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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The Darkshore warfront was very surprising, didn't expect it at all :O, Perhaps barrens got cut?

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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📎 14703.png

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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9 total per faction

zealous basalt Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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Or coming later

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So...18 bosses?

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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its a 9 boss raid for both sides

uncut vault Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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seems like they pushed back a bit of the story

dense plover Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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6 of those are shared

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total of 12 unique bosses

uncut vault Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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voljin was originally dealt with in 8.0

heavy cairn Sep 18, 2018, 6:43 PM

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they certainly won't be doing 6 warfronts, will they?