THAT IS FAR WORSE
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
sudden oak
NO
uncut vault
anduin x arator
tropic trail
Andator
sudden oak
please not another windrunner with a human
uncut vault
its in his blood bro
sudden oak
can you atleast try with characters that know each other?
uncut vault
I mean, ship or not, I hope that convo with turalyon and anduin wasnt for nothing
I want to see anduin and arator meet
tropic trail
Velen x Turalyon
sudden oak
...
hollow dock
OK. I can handle that
tropic trail
You said characters that know eachother
uncut vault
I mean, its one of the few times where "25x your age" doesnt actually mean much
tropic trail
And they know eachother
hollow dock
yea. For Turalyon and Velen. Alright
sudden oak
I do think we should purge this place
tropic trail
That reminds me
tropic trail
I like the snooty
terse patrol
got muh exalted centaur rep
hollow dock
same
tropic trail
Kael'idan?
uncut vault
that was p popular during tbc
illidan had all those belfs sex workers for a reason ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
hollow dock
y'all need Jesus
tropic trail
Thalisande
tropic trail
Get ready for that arcane strap-on
uncut vault
but on a serious note, the main reason I hope anduin just never gets a romantic interest, especially a queen, is because I really dont want another thrall situation
sudden oak
...
tropic trail
Is it weird that I was thinking he'd hook up with Calia?
uncut vault
Character painted as a social outcast, that LGBT fans latch onto and see as gay, only for blizz to write in a mandatory straight love interest
social outcast doesnt apply as much to anduin, but he's always been written as different, same with thrall
tropic trail
Blizz will probably keep the gay romances in Overwatch
tranquil steeple
zealous basalt
Progresswatch*
terse patrol
idk, I don't like the idea that just because Anduin isnt traditionally masculine that he HAS to be gay.
uncut vault
I mean, it's talking about future stuff, and it's surprisingly civil for this chat
tropic trail
I'm sure someone could change that
west relic
"gay romances in Overwatch" has no context here
tropic trail
Gay romances in WoW though
uncut vault
that was mentioned once, just now, did you read the rest of the convo?
tropic trail
That deals with the future
west relic
Even the rest of the conversation is way off course.
tropic trail
"Blizz will probably keep the gay romances in Overwatch" That's me saying that they probably won't involve such things in WoW.
west relic
I suggest we actually talk about BFA and it's spoilers.
uncut vault
I was about to say that so far, blizz has only really done lesbian romances, including in BfA, theres an NPC in tiragarde who has a girlfriend, we retrieve her locket
hollow dock
sadly, lesbian relationships are the 'safer' and 'more accepted' ones in society.
tropic trail
And we can assume that they have gay romances in Suramar.
uncut vault
but even that is less fully confirmed more "this clearly isnt a sister"
hollow dock
and we know of 1 legitimate gay couple in Legion
sudden oak
there is another lesbian romance in Legion as a quest for enchanting
sudden oak
yeah
hollow dock
I thought it was tailoring
sudden oak
the ghosts in aszuna
that is where you get mark of the priestess
if im not mistaken
uncut vault
Yeah legion had the best so far in Warcraft, those two, the nightborne jokes about tyrande, and Stellagosa and Valtrois, who the quest writer wrote as a relationship, despite not being confirmed in game
tropic trail
"Oh, mein frau, willst du mich heiraten?"
sudden oak
I was gladly surprised when you purify her from her satyr from
and she is a nelf priesetess
since before she was just referenced as her love if im not mistaken
also we need female satyr models :^)
tropic trail
And female ogres
sudden oak
and incubi
zealous basalt
This was about speculation but ok
hollow dock
we first need legitmate proof that incubi actually exist
dense plover
^
tropic trail
We have speculation of that Sargeras killed incubi but that's never really confirmed to be incubi, so it's a succubi until further notice
hollow dock
there's 3 rumors
but they're just that
rumors
Rumor 1: The incubi are enslaved on the Succubi home planet.
Rumor 2: Incubi exist, but the summoning spell for them has been lost to time and so the Incubi are lost to time
rumor 3: the incubi were devoured by the succubi prior to joining the legion
dense plover
/justbeablackwidow
tropic trail
/Idratherbeasineater
sudden oak
I mean they could just make a gameplay option just like the glyph that changes the normal spirit of redemption into a Val'kyr
since only Vrykul women can be Val'kyrs
tropic trail
I AM GOD-KING SKOVALD
sudden oak
dont trigger my PTSD thank you
terse patrol
I TOO AM WORTHY OH-DEN
sudden oak
grizzled sleet
Something is wrong with Chromie, she transform into a big dragon since forever, but with legion she become a little dragon in the death of chromie
tropic trail
Making fun of her size?
grizzled sleet
is it just an updated model of the old big dragon or she can transform to different sizes?
restive sage
when will they upgrade the old mount models
night swift
never
restive sage
i wanna see the proto drakes upgraded and the black drake and twilight drake
uncut vault
her timeline isnt synched with ours
we see her at different points in her timestream
its like river song in doctor who
shes a drake in WoD
tropic trail
Works like the Butterfly effect really
Just because you see Ashton Kutcher as an adult in his childhood, doesn't mean that he's a child, just means he's an adult in his own childhood
if that makes sense
hollow dock
@grizzled sleet There are 2 possible explinations
Either the chromie we are meeting is a much younger chromie
or she just shifts into the smaller form for speed
grizzled sleet
Okay
tropic trail
No?
grizzled sleet
By the end of BFA what % of old maps do you think they will update? (except BC / Wotlk / Mop / Wod maps)
rich apex
Beyond Arathi and Southern Barrens for warfronts?
grizzled sleet
yes
rich apex
Don't get your hopes up 😛
grizzled sleet
rich apex
tropic trail
Stormwind is now a warfront
grizzled sleet
Everything is a warfront with warmode
tropic trail
^^^
grizzled sleet
I still think they must add mutilple weekly quests for World PvP on BFA with 5 persons limitation to avoid pvp raids
zealous basalt
Why is chromie a nice girl
hollow dock
because she's come to the realization and understanding of everything she ever has done, will do, or can do and knows that getting angry over certain things really means nothing in the grand scheme of a bronze dragons life
rich apex
Chromie will just reset the timelines if we fuck up too much with this whole faction war in the face of an obvious N'zoth threat
zealous basalt
why cant she be future aspect
hollow dock
because the aspect as a role doesn't exist?
Like. Cataclysm has ridden the need of aspects.
there's no need for them. They no longer exist.
hollow dock
But why?
Nozdormu leads the bronze
and even then, at this point, he' snot needed for the flight to keep doing its job
zealous basalt
Well, Noz doesn't have too much of a screentime
hollow dock
The Bronze is the one flight that's completely independent of its leader. They act and move with or without an aspect.
zealous basalt
And the greens now
hollow dock
I have to ask, what does that matter for screen time/
zealous basalt
For seeing how cool can he be?
grizzled sleet
Will there be a cinematic next week with the first part of quests?
uncut vault
Unless theres a surprise addition to part 1, no
dense plover
cinematic for tree burning, at least 1
at least 2 for lordaeron
so nothing next week
at least 1 the week after
and at least 2 after that
1 when jaina shows up
and 1 at the end
and they might be different between the factions
uncut vault
tropic trail
For War Fronts. I want to see a Hinterlands One, Quel'thalas one, Ashenvale one, Hillsbard Foothills one, and Winterspring One.
zealous basalt
ty
dense plover
well the next one is barrens
and the one after might be silverpine/gilneas
so the one after would probably be kalimdor
desolace/stonetalon might happen
uncut vault
third one really depends on who they want to focus on, full focus to undead vs worgen, or full focus to the high elf/void elf vs blood elf stuff theyve been hinting at
seeing as ion's the lead, silverpine is more likely, as much as Id love a QT warfront
tropic trail
@dense plover OOO Stonetalon! Why didn't I think of that.
dense plover
Silver pine has to happen before QT because it’s where the conflict was and it’s sorely needed with night elves losing their capital
grizzled sleet
So each patch like 8.0 => 8.0.5 => 8.1 => 8.1.5 will add a warfront?
uncut vault
more likely 8.1, 8.2
to match pvp seasons
each set has 2 seasons
pvp and warfronts share sets
grizzled sleet
I think it will match Mythic+ ilvl upgrade from +10 o=to +15
They can use same set with 2 warfronts, one on EK and one on Kalimdor
2 warfronts per season will allow at least 6 warfronts
uncut vault
I doubt we'll get that many regardless, these are weekly schedule things
if we have six theres no downtime for warfronts
grizzled sleet
If they're already planning second and third warfront at this time I don't think thy are working on 8.3 warfront
more like 8.0 => 8.0.5 => 8.1
uncut vault
100% not gonna be like that
we already know the warfronts will correspond armor to pvp
grizzled sleet
How can they be working on 8.2 warfront at this point?
uncut vault
I dont understand why you think they wouldnt be
why wouldnt they be working on patch content right now?
grizzled sleet
I mean yes they can but why would they add some things related to it on prpatch?
uncut vault
they added it in beta, you have the entire xpac downloaded
the stuff on the open world maps is 100% unintentional
grizzled sleet
4 warfronts in total between 8.0 and 8.3 seems too low, PvP seasons already share same sets between 2 seasons
I don't see why 2 warfronts can't share same set
zealous basalt
inb4 we get a pvp oriented patch
uncut vault
why is that too low?
warfronts arent meant to be plentiful content
theyre cycled, weekly content
if we have 6-8, we will be waiting two months to see a warfront again
grizzled sleet
or 3 months
They said 7.1 came too fast, so I'm sure they will delay patchs a little bit this time
uncut vault
the armor is themed after the warfront itself
do you think theyre going to do three warfronts, all themed around orcs vs humans?
uncut vault
taurajo as an orc base?
grizzled sleet
Legion pvp seasons shared sets, 1 set per 2 pvp season.
it may gonna be the same on BFA
If that's the case each pvp season = new warfront
uncut vault
so you think we're getting orc taurajo?
despite it already being confirmed as a tauren base?
grizzled sleet
Idk
They also said they want to provide more variety for transmog sets by sharing sets between armors
uncut vault
what you want is the opposite of armor diversity, lol
a tauren warfront, giving orc armor anyways
grizzled sleet
Yea I know but when you talked about taurajo I was thinking about sets variety :p so maybe new sets with each pvp season / warfront this time
Anyway I think we will know as soon as BFA launch with PTR
restive sage
do horde players have access to different dungeons than alliance player
WHY DOES THE BETA ALWAYS GO DOWN AS SOON AS IM ABOUT TO PLAY IT
uncut vault
each faction has a unique 4 while leveling up, and gain access to a max level only one when they hit 120, as well as the other faction's 4. they earn the final one from the war campaign.
uncut vault
I dunno, Waycrest Manor is being hailed as one of the best ones
whole onyx
Well, Horde has access to Atal'dazar, Underrot, Temple of Sethraliss, and MOTHERLODE
uncut vault
dynamic music is pretty great
whole onyx
WM is the best IMO
restive sage
waycrest manor is ok
whole onyx
When you play a creepy organ music 🤔
whole onyx
M+ wise though its boring.
restive sage
it looks so cooooool
whole onyx
Not only there's not too many scary mechanics/trash, its timer is also too gracious.
restive sage
do both factions get the other faction's dungeons tho
whole onyx
Yes, at max level
restive sage
😃
whole onyx
With the Mythic-only dungeon at the opposite faction only available through war campaign quests
restive sage
bfa is lookin really goooood
whole onyx
WM is cool but I find a few places inside it to be graphics heavy
restive sage
yes
whole onyx
Especially between 4th bosses and Gorak Tul
grizzled sleet
What if Jaina burned Teldrassil
restive sage
why would jaina burn teldrassil
grizzled sleet
Following the Destruction of Theramore, when Jaina Proudmoore approached the Council of Six for help against the Horde, she asked them if they would react in a theoretical situation where the Horde burned Teldrassil.
restive sage
wut
grizzled sleet
Maybe she burned it to make the Alliance think it was the horde
restive sage
wasnt the horde there when teldrassil was burned tho
grizzled sleet
Sylvanas says that she didn't forsee this outcome
It wasn't planned
Horde wanted to gain control of Teldrassil
Maybe when all hope is lost Jaina burn it
We still don't know how it burned, it's a cinematic and we can't see it until it's released
grizzled sleet
Jaina is also the one speaking in the features overview video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZ9xkVQ_Vs
"just waiting for a single spark, to set the whole world aflame"
zealous basalt
...That would really make her a warbringer
zealous basalt
I can't find...a good counterpoint
rich apex
I mean
zealous basalt
whatchu think peach
rich apex
based off the KT quests
I don't think Jaina's going to go Full Villain
But it's a highly amusing tinfoil theory
Like Alliance Saurfang
dense plover
I don’t think she starts a war
Considering her showing up at lordaeron is a big thing
Big enough that she teleports a boat and gets a cutscene
restive sage
i have a counter point
zealous basalt
ur mom is not one
grizzled sleet
Before Teldrassil burn, Tyrande lose hope and says "Teldrassil will soon fall", maybe Jaina burn it so that the horde don't control it
restive sage
white
grizzled sleet
because all hope is lost after all
dense plover
I doubt it
They wouldn’t condemn those civilians
Even the horde plans to capture the occupants
Not kill them
dense plover
I really think it’s going to be either an accident or full aggro
Probably an accident
Or maybe even the azerite
uncut vault
Jaina knows exactly how it feels to lose your home and see all your people die
rich apex
Truuuue
uncut vault
She wouldn’t burn that many people
dense plover
But since horde attacks at that moment, it could be a coincidence that sets it off
rich apex
thus it's only a tinfoil theory 😛
dense plover
And that’s just bad luck
rich apex
It's probably-definitely N'zoth cultist infiltrators
dense plover
Bad luck has caused wars before
zealous basalt
kek
restive sage
jaina looks like a nice person
c:
she didnt even make fun of me for how bad i am at pvp so
id say she wouldnt burn teldrassil
zealous basalt
I think battle for azeroth is a pretty cool girl
seh kills horde and doesnt afraid of anything
grizzled sleet
Difference between before / after cinematic : https://youtu.be/2U971edHGso?t=10m15s
I don't think it's the horde or an azerite weapon used by horde
rich apex
Like
Based off what we see from the Sylvanas animation
It still strikes me that she's the witness
Not the perpetrator
But that's admittedly subjective af
The Alliance will say the Horde did it, of course
But it's just so painfully obvious
That it -has- to be something else besides 'sylvie is just evil'
restive sage
Makore - Today at 12:01 AM
I think battle for azeroth is a pretty cool girl
battle for azeroth isnt a girl
grizzled sleet
Battle for Azeroth is a girl
Battle for Argus is a boy
both are BFA
So BFA is both a girl and a boy
restive sage
...
zealous basalt
but eh kills hordes and doesnt afraid of anything
restive sage
im pullin out the calculator
rich apex
Thank god Blizz actually acknowledged Daelin was Super Wrong
(and thus I am confident Jaina won't go evil)
whole onyx
When Alliance players have WQs within Horde capital of Dazar'Alor 🤔
steel venture
... yea?
zealous basalt
clearly horde bias
whole onyx
But I suppose its the same for Horde yea?
steel venture
there's still a PVE area in the capitals m8
ye
the ashvane areas / the spots being attacked by blood trolls are most likely where they're centered, as a blind guess, right?
dense plover
the ones in the horde area are at the docks in the areas with the aggro npcs
same for boralus
uncut vault
wait, when does KT say that daelin was wrong?
only thing Ive seen as someone being wrong in the proudmoore family is jaina, for trusting the orcs, and katherine, for leaving the alliance
steel venture
the entirety of saving jaina from thros?
rich apex
^
steel venture
it's literally katherine realizing how traumatized jaina is and actually supporting her
rich apex
Pretty sure that's the quest where Kate admits Daelin was wrong
And that Jaina's idealism was -right-
steel venture
"Let me see if I can do this properly this time. Welcome home, daughter."
its not directly stated but the intention is there.
which is GOOD
read between the lines and a show-not-tell is a really good way to handle the jaina situation
rich apex
I definitely recall a line from the datamined text where Kate says Daelin went too far
steel venture
because, you feel more from the raw emotion versus. "i was wrong"
but it likely DOES happen later just, not at this point of the story
because this point of the story is the nonverbal realization
rich apex
But I don't want to go back to watch that linked video entirely when I can actually play it soon enough 😛
steel venture
more-or-less
uncut vault
you interpreted that line in a very odd way, thats for sure
that lines in reference to her and jainas relationship, not daelin
something outlined in jaina's comic quite clearly
steel venture
well no, but daelin's death also heavily severed their relationship too.
the
thros scenario
literally covers most of jaina's issues
uncut vault
how does that = katherine saying daelin was wrong?
jaina herself thinks her father was right, in retrospect
rich apex
Kate sees Jaina being tormented over blaming herself because she showed mercy to the Horde
And Kate realizes, gee, maybe I shouldn't give my daughter shit for that if the evil spirit king thinks that's the best way to torture my daughter
But I could've sworn there was a line from the datamine awhile back where Kate specifically says Daelin went too far
uncut vault
again, how does that = katherine saying daelin was wrong?
steel venture
and everything that's bogging down both jaina and represents them in a way katherine can properly understand and try to pull her from it
and even comments that if she continued down her path there'd be nothing but an "empty darkness" given that jaina's been locking away her feelings
rich apex
I will return to this point in about a month or two 😛
After actually playing through it all
steel venture
and the ultimate "fuck you" that the drust-fucker uses is DAELIN.
uncut vault
saying that she herself was wrong for pushing jaina and the alliance away? yes, thats clear
but katherine and jaina both believe daelin was right to fight the horde at theramore
doing it properly means not pushing her away, because jaina's realized what she did wrong, and it was katherine's fault as much as jaina's for helping the horde
steel venture
right to fight the horde, yes
mindlessly going down a path that'd lead to genocide and annihalation on both sides, whilst shutting away everything and everyone else, nah.
uncut vault
and where is it shown that either katherine or jaina believe thats what daelin did?
can you show screenshots, or lines?
because the comic has jaina wondering if she should have supported her father
both of them recognize that daelin had rage over derek, but where is it said that they think he was wrong in anything he did?
uncut vault
Still doesnt answer the question
the comic is where we see the entirety of jaina's opinion on kul tiras and the situation with her father
icy ingot
she'll change her mind again anyway I know it.
vast mirage
are there any DPS charts for the new patch?i wanna play enhacement but i feel like its the most low dps class
hollow dock
Details! Has a beta patch
3-4k seems to be the norm if youre geared in at least antorus heroic stuff.
vast mirage
for every class?
hollow dock
It's the average. Some are spiking way higher and some are way lower.
Like my guilds DH is spiking up into 8-9k
vast mirage
yeah DH's are a bit high damage now
hollow dock
I really wouldn't worry to much about it, since like last Pre-patch, we're tuned for gear we do not own
last condor
How's Ret doin gameplay-wise?
zealous basalt
I like the new sounds
zealous basalt
I think?
lone charm
last condor
It's not really a question of balance more a question of what the classes can do
last condor
Okay, I'll rephrase. How is Ret Paladin's sustained AoE dps now?
Are they looking to be a contender in M+ 12 on?
hollow dock
In that we have to say, we can't really say until all tuning is done and things have hit live and M+ is actually out.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rich apex
And then Blizz will start the tuning for 8.0.5 and 8.1
13 years on and people still seem to think there's an end point of balance
grizzled sleet
@last condor Just play whatever you like, it doesn't matter at all, I was always doing high keys with my guardian druid even if DK was the best for M+ high keys, I adapted to some affixes instead of switching to a DK. Playing what you like is always the best
last condor
Much easier as a tank than a dps 😛
grizzled sleet
I don't think so
If you want a dps example, I got 2k with my outlaw rogue because I love playing outlaw instead of playing what everyone do (assa)
Play what you like no matter what
last condor
sorry, 2k?
grizzled sleet
I'm not a big pvp player so yes
last condor
Oh you meant in pvp
grizzled sleet
I just wanted the skin
hollow dock
The average range is around 3-4 some being lower and some being higher.
Thousand that is.
night swift
🤔
hollow dock
I do have retail yes. O.o
compact torrent
is it possible to change servers? like from Draenor to another place? i dont have WoW but im planning on maybe getting it
hollow dock
Yup.
compact torrent
Okay
grizzled sleet
@last condor i've seen people with 3.2k+ mythic+ score with all dps classes, so I think dps is not an issue
night swift
You gotta pay for it but yes
hollow dock
Those are called server transfers. Theyre for free if youre going to an unpopulated server
last condor
the hell is a mythic+ score?
night swift
To move characters from servers anyway
compact torrent
Oh
grizzled sleet
hollow dock
Again it is free if you downgrade servers
compact torrent
my uncle has wow and i think his characters are mostly in Draenor, so when i get wow i hope draenor isnt full
night swift
compact torrent
on my wow test it said draenor was full
timid aspen
meaning.. you can add chars to a “full” realm
grizzled sleet
@last condor for example https://raider.io/mythic-plus/season-pre-bfa/world/leaderboards-character/paladin/dps
night swift
But theres a wait time to log in isn’t there?
last condor
I just wanted to know how rets aoe dps was. 😦
hollow dock
Yea its a really retarded system.
night swift
Iks its bad
hollow dock
Rets aoe deeps is fine Iks
last condor
Didn't expect to get lectured lol
night swift
Its fine but not as strong as single target
hollow dock
At the moment we dont have a solid idea of what it'll be on the longterm
hollow dock
Thats why we've been tellin ya to not worry to much
night swift
Wake of Ashes, Consencration, and Divine Hammer
timid aspen
there can be but even on the fuller servers you only really see it like the first couple days of xpac
night swift
Consecration and Wake of Ashes are talents though
hollow dock
Its a talent
last condor
ah sweet
night swift
Wale of Ashes is almost the same, but without the bleed
compact torrent
what do different races do
night swift
Different racial abilities
night swift
And very miniscule stat differences
compact torrent
what kinda abilities do blood elfs have
compact torrent
What is it?
night swift
Its a dispel
compact torrent
from yourself or allies
compact torrent
Oh
hollow dock
Its not as random as you think
night swift
It used to be an aoe silence
hollow dock
And aoe silences that also work as interupts
night swift
No that would be a cleanse if it was on you
hollow dock
Was op as fuck
night swift
?
compact torrent
like dispel a debuff from you
hollow dock
Yea thats a cleanse
night swift
Thats a cleanse
compact torrent
wouldnt that be good?
hollow dock
It is good.
night swift
Dispel = Beneficial Buff, Cleanse = Harmful Debuff
timid aspen
cleanse is a malicious dispel
night swift
Honestly unless you’re in to pvp, racials don’t really matter that much
timid aspen
not a debuff
night swift
That too
grizzled sleet
Someone turned @timid aspen on
hollow dock
Etc*
compact torrent
any good race for hunters on the alliance?
night swift
Any of them honestly
hollow dock
I suggest human, specifically because it makes certain grinds easier
Like Reputation grinds
night swift
Human for their racial, Night Elf for the aesthetic
hollow dock
^ basically
night swift
Or Worgen
compact torrent
can hunters use swords? or only guns and bows
grizzled sleet
as long as it's not a female night elf
timid aspen
dwarf
night swift
Survival Hunter can use swords
grizzled sleet
melee with some ranged spells
compact torrent
can you rechoose a spec?
compact torrent
no costs?
night swift
Free to change
compact torrent
thats nice
night swift
Not like olden days
compact torrent
whats the easiest mount to get that can fly?
grizzled sleet
Hearthstone mount
grizzled sleet
Yes
compact torrent
thats nice
grizzled sleet
You just need to get 3 wins on heathstone and reach lvl 20 on wow
compact torrent
ive played hearthstone before so i already got it
grizzled sleet
compact torrent
but im going to be using another character when i get the game
night swift
Mounts are account wide
grizzled sleet
I have all classes on alliance side, I wasn't planning to do it, just leveled them all for mage tower
night swift
Only night elf and blood elf can be dh
And you need a level 70 character on that server
compact torrent
how do they become a dh
compact torrent
legion?
night swift
The expansion Legion
grizzled sleet
He doesn't need that anymore, only a subscription
night swift
Oh right
grizzled sleet
it includes all expansions except BFA
night swift
We should probably move to #retail-wow cause this isn’t on topic at all
sullen dagger
but a visual thingy of when is the
NOICE
WE DINE IN HELL INDEED
MAKORE
WHAT's THE BEST THING IN LIFE
To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women.
grat conan sempai teached us
sullen dagger
see?
zealous basalt
Ah
hollow dock
like Emerald Nightmare
sullen dagger
CONFUSION EVERYWHERE
zealous basalt
The week is for mythic+?
sullen dagger
btw did ian said something in the qna?
hollow dock
Mythic+15 releases the week after with Mythic
sullen dagger
i missed the livestream since i'm on vacances
zealous basalt
Oof
hollow dock
you can watch the VoD on youtube
sullen dagger
will do
sullen dagger
^
sullen dagger
NAH NAH NAH
LET BLIIZZARD CREATE BLIIZZHAMMER 420K
NOSCOPE
I MEAN NO HIGHLEVES
zealous basalt
Oof
clever ember
I think it’s on the calendar too, on wow.
wraith marten
So about the warfronts. Will they be cross realm? And can you join via group finder or something for the final battle?
hollow dock
warfronts are wholly instanced
dense plover
^
theyre like 20-man dungeons
you queue up at the table
and then do a warfront for 30 minutes
you get a piece of gear once a week and 750 (or 650) AP
the warfronts are active for 3 days
then inactive for 1
then active for the other faction while you can donate goods to your faction to unlock the next rotation and also receive some rep
strange falcon
for those people that like Sneks,a good fellow compiled this video,so i thought i might share it https://giant.gfycat.com/ObviousDisloyalHarpyeagle.webm
viral terrace
@strange falcon Aren't these all the animations that playable races use?
strange falcon
these are custom animations made for the sethrak specifically,as they not only have animated mouth(with snake tongue idle) they also have animated tail,the casting animation is also custom made,as are the attacking 2handed animations,
the only one that is maybe shared is the flash heal one where he puts the fist in the air
@viral terrace
you can see all these animations on the npc sethrak in the voldun zone,including the holy looking ones(but excluding wings,light of dawn and consecration)
tulip sun
I think whoever gets Vulpera will be just as lucky
strange falcon
from what we have seen,the original skeleton,is most similar to a female worgen but HEAVILY modified
just like vulpera are goblin but heavily modified too
and kultirans,i think last time i checked were speculated to be pandaren but heavily modified
zealous basalt
Zandalar remind me of heavily modified elves
strange falcon
zandalari males are heavily modified male night elves yes
uncut vault
Kul tirans are a unique model
strange falcon
female sneks as of what we can see in the files right now
zealous basalt
I havent seem them
strange falcon
Cough argonians cough
strange falcon
dude you havent seen argonians from Elder scrolls/bethesda?
zealous basalt
I might be the only people here that havent played that game
restive sage
you are
tropic trail
4 Person flying mount confirmed
zealous basalt
oof
zealous basalt
Which Sethrak are good sethrak?
urban dew
The Devoted are the good ones
sour burrow
40person flying mount confirmed. *insert hivemind tooltip here*
zealous basalt
Ohh
sour burrow
Devoted good, Faithless bad.
zealous basalt
Who allied with horde?
hollow dock
the devoted ally with the alliance o;
hollow dock
As far as Im aware. they recieve aid frm both sides
tropic trail
Night Elves
urban dew
They're neutral as of now, but the Horde only works with them through convenience since they have a main enemy.
grizzled sleet
@urban dew is always here when you're talking about Snitties @hollow dock
rich apex
I mean
urban dew
Because Vris does it to poke at me
rich apex
It's the Horde who helps the Devoted stop the Faithless
urban dew
Yeah, because once again, they have a main enemy
Keep in mind Alliance had first contact
rich apex
Or at least I never got an Alliance character high enough on beta to see major interaction aside from the Voldun intro
And it is certainly possible that things will change in the future to push them to Alliance
grizzled sleet
Just like nightbornes
urban dew
I doubt they're going to cut out Horde interaction in one of their leveling zones, so they're bound to have some more story at the start.
hollow dock
As far as Im aware, the Alliance are the ones that give them freedom and help them get fighting against the Faithless. I dont have beta so this might have been changed but eh
urban dew
They saved the Devoted's leader, Vorrik.
So in a way, they did keep the Devoted going.
rich apex
Last time I did it, there's a brief few quests when the Alliance land at Voldun and then make a friend
tulip sun
Vorrik and his group are neutral atm:
And work closely with vulpera and zandalari after these quests
rich apex
But the Horde have the entire Voldun storyline of stopping the Faithless thanks to the Faithless working with the sand troll dude to unleash the c'thraxx
urban dew
Meanwhile Horde and the Devoted loses the keystones which contain Mythrax.
urban dew
As far as I'm aware, the Horde only meets up the Devoted through Vulpera
tulip sun
They get aided by both
urban dew
But yeah, it's more an alliance of convenience than actually joining a side.
viral terrace
They could do what they did with Pandaren for the race
Have it so you can choose if you want to be horde or alliance
viral terrace
It could still work y'know.
They're already split
One side could go to the Horde
and one side to Alliance
hollow dock
they could Meg
rich apex
Alliance had literally equal interaction with Highmountain and Nightborne
So
Who knows 😛
hollow dock
but they dont want another pandaren
rich apex
Admittedly, neutral races in the faction war expansion seems silly
Of course, the faction war could be over by 8.2 when N'zoth bursts out of the ground 😛
uncut vault
the main reason people think they lean alliance is because A) alliance get direct interaction with their leader right off the bat, and B) said leader instantly trusts the alliance enough to safekeep voldun's salvation
hollow dock
yea but
tulip sun
There is no way theyd go horde, unless a surprise teists makes vulpera go alliance
tulip sun
But atm storywise, i dont think so. I hope it changes in 8.1 tho
uncut vault
there really isnt a point in introducing the alliance to their leader atm, knowing the sethrak have friendlies isn't all that important to doing world quests in vol'dun and killing snake people as an alliance member
so it should be for something in the future
be it an allied race, or just future content involving them
tulip sun
There has to be conflict to push them away from vulpera and zandalari if they join yhe alliance
uncut vault
peers at nightborne and highmountain
hollow dock
there wasn't that pushed the nightborne and highmountain into the horde or the Lightforged into the alliance.
so that's pure nonsense
tulip sun
There is a slight difference
hollow dock
You're right. Highmountain, nightborne and Lighforged got equal help from alliance and horde
and still chose a side
tulip sun
Thise were all fairly isolated. The vulpera, sethrak and zandalari are kinda intertwined.
hollow dock
where-as the sethrak and Vulpera have more weighted help
Vulpera go horde and sethrak alliance
uncut vault
zandalari have nothing to do with the sethrak until BfA with the traitor general
they only see voldun as a place to throw exiles
sethrak empire is something they avoid
tulip sun
But as of 8.0 they are friendly and working together is what i mean
There has to he something to make them declare war
Be*
uncut vault
the vulpera leader just needs to say something that slightly hurts vorriks feelings
thatll do the trick
hollow dock
So are the Highmountain and Nightfallen as they allied together with us as of 7.2 and somehow they still went horde over alliance.
just cuz
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip sun
I imagine Nisha
Vris, you are ignoring what i say
Anyway
I imagine Nisha being the problem going forqard
last condor
Man, I hope Vulpera becomes an allied race for both sides 😦
hollow dock
I'm not. What you say really is minor in the grand scheme of them going to one side
its not Iks
blizz has said theyre not doing more neutrals
they dont want a repeat of pandaren
last condor
Source?
tulip sun
Nightborne and Highmountain for instance are not friends and interacting with lightforged
last condor
Well that's one way to give a citation. a 6 day over 1000 hour event lol
hollow dock
Who said they weren't friends?
uncut vault
peers at the ending of WoD, then to the lightbound
hollow dock
(nightfallen btw. Nightfallen.)
grizzled sleet
Are the exiled Zalandari trolls the only ones who whorship Sethraliss along with Sethrak or all Zalandari?
tulip sun
8.0 they are allied and fighting together. In 8.1 there is just a needed thing to happen to push them apart is all i am saying
hollow dock
During an interview with Forbes Ion hazzikostas gave his answer on neutral races.
they won't be doing anymore. pandaren are seen as a failure
zealous basalt
They should
hollow dock
there isnt a need for it
hollow dock
is what i am saying
tulip sun
I was speaking in the vulpera discord about this
zealous basalt
just split them
tulip sun
We were saying how
hollow dock
because there doesn't need to be a reason for anything to happen
tulip sun
Nisha likely
zealous basalt
"Tushui Pandaren" and "Huojin Pandaren"
tulip sun
Vris, so you declare war on allies?
hollow dock
Again
zealous basalt
that's what nightborne did
tulip sun
Fsctions were not involved with NB and HM
last condor
oh god, the Vulpera don't look that good
tulip sun
They were class halls
last condor
I don't get the hype behind them now that I've looked em up
uncut vault
factions were very explicitly involved with the nightborne, lol
last condor
I heard they were cute...this is not cute lol
uncut vault
the entirety of 7.1 was both factions aiding in suramar
hollow dock
and for Highmountain, my Deathknight was a former knight of stormwind. She certainly pushed for Highmountain to join them and not the horde when it was all over.
still went horde
¯_(ツ)_/¯
last condor
I was expecting something more akin to the Lyn from Blade and Soul
uncut vault
doesnt help that they cut the only part that actually had a horde leader actually coming to highmountain
HM was all neutral
hollow dock
and 'course, Kham just isnt around to hear us actually object.
last condor
I'm sad that the void elves went Alliance. 😦
hollow dock
Why?
zealous basalt
Why??
last condor
I wanted the space chicken mount
hollow dock
Well roll alliance
zealous basalt
That Vris going full Ion
uncut vault
if you want a space chicken, the alliance is there waiting for you
hollow dock
^^^^^^^^^^^
zealous basalt
its more like
tulip sun
I read what you said
zealous basalt
Void chicken
tulip sun
Was doing something quick
last condor
I've been horde for over a decade now. Rerolling for 1 mount seems silly
last condor
I lost out on the cool void chicken. 😦
tropic trail
Light chicken.
hollow dock
blood elves should get a light chicken
zealous basalt
oof
tropic trail
Pengu as a paladin.
zealous basalt
noot
last condor
There are a lot of things that don't make sense to me with allied races.
tulip sun
If Sethrak joined the alliance, theyd be declaring war on friends and people they quite literally live with. Rastakhan calls them allies. I dont get why you guys are objecting to the story simply causing tensions.
It makes sense
zealous basalt
Suck for Zandalar for being horde
zealous basalt
The sad part Vris
last condor
From a gaming point of view, not looking at lore, I expect they want us to be able to tell, at a glance, who is what. Okay, that's fine, but why did they give horde Nightelf models and Alliance Blood elf models?
hollow dock
because blizzard is hypocritical
zealous basalt
Shitty but great at the same time
last condor
and if that's NOT what they're going for, why not give a tauren model to the Alliance and a Draenai model to the horde?
It's just inconsistent
grizzled sleet
Vris - Aujourd'hui à 01:51
Because
blizzard will
LOL
Blizzard will league of legends ?????
zealous basalt
OOF
last condor
This current setup just seems to make nobody happy lol
hollow dock
It's both sides fault tbh.
blizz wants to put their stuff they made first but the playerbase of course will be asking for what they always want
last condor
The vast majority of people aren't going to care either way. I've already got all classes at 110 - I'm not rerolling just for some transmog gear that doesn't even look that good(imo), but the way they handled it was confusing and inconsistent
zealous basalt
In a community full of people that believe they are better storytellers than the people that developed story...
grizzled sleet
If nightbornes joined the Alliance, they could have come to Darnassus only to burn
restive sage
i have a question about sargeras
zealous basalt
What's wrong with Sargeras
restive sage
how big is he compared to the uh
hollow dock
theyre making a good story
restive sage
titans
hollow dock
the same size
restive sage
oh
hollow dock
all the titans are roughly the same size
restive sage
why does he look HUGE
last condor
I think blizzard's story telling is fine. I'm not going to say it's top tier, but it's fine.
hollow dock
because he's at full power
grizzled sleet
Because other titans lost their powers
restive sage
looks like he can hug the universe c:
urban dew
I'm willing to see where they go with Allied Races as long as we get some fan favorites spinkled in there as well
hollow dock
the other titans are just souls. remnants of their former power.
Sargeras is a full powered titan
zealous basalt
Thing is
hollow dock
with a full body and all that
zealous basalt
They can't make a fucking balliot
restive sage
hes coooool
hollow dock
he's not. he's just illidan
last condor
I feel like their method of story telling leaves some gaps - they really should fix quests up to be less "read 3 paragraphs, go do fetch quest, read 3 more paragraphs"
zealous basalt
Everyone will say
hollow dock
on a galactic scale
restive sage
you should be able to play
zealous basalt
"High elf"
restive sage
as a titan one day
zealous basalt
oof
tropic trail
No.
restive sage
😦
last condor
Please no lol
zealous basalt
We don't want to go there again
restive sage
but
urban dew
I'd say Arakkoa
hollow dock
they aren't lilo
tropic trail
Vris, shush
hollow dock
Azeroths alive.
zealous basalt
We already acted like demigods with the artifacts
tropic trail
Azeroth is dead to me
hollow dock
smewhat
restive sage
aside from the reasons that it would be impossible
hollow dock
Sargeras is alive
tropic trail
Sargeras is dead to me
restive sage
wouldnt that be a cool race to play as
last condor
🤔 Azeroth is actually dead and the old gods are keeping it from whithering
last condor
withering*
tropic trail
Give us a titan racial called "Planet cleave"
restive sage
think of the racial tho
tropic trail
Fine
zealous basalt
But no
tropic trail
Give us an ability called "Desert stab"
zealous basalt
Titans just stop the cycles
last condor
Am I the only one who thinks we've gotten too powerful, lore-wise?
hollow dock
not really
restive sage
well
zealous basalt
removes artifacts
last condor
I mean I thought we were too powerful when we went to Ragnaros' home and kicked the shit out of him
restive sage
what are other classes that could be added
hollow dock
don't use that language
last condor
Now we're fighting a god who can break a planet with a single stab
zealous basalt
Lets' be honest, that's what we looked like last expact