Again tyrande is more important than Malfurion is
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
hollow dock
All the horde deserves it
tropic trail
voljin didnt do anything
hollow dock
He sided with invaders and murderers
tranquil steeple
Malfurion is an important Druid character, and a big figure for Night Elves, but the alpha in terms of importance is Tyrande
hollow dock
I never said he wasn't important Sela, but tyrande is lightyears more important
Ghoulish Daniel*
his name is Ghoulish Daniel
tranquil steeple
That's what I was trying to say, but it came across wrong since I'm eating, and was (at the time of typing) controling my flight in-game
tropic trail
Would you say thrall deserves shit, vris?
besides him using the elements in the fight
hollow dock
Yes.
He broke his own orcish law. He tossed it away. He is the whole reason we are there in the first place.
Had he listened to everyone, including Garrosh, we wouldn't be in Draenor
ghoulish daniel*
hollow dock
Sad boi did all of it to himself
Tyrande was betrayed by him on multiple occasions when she extended her trust to him. He's always taken advantage of it.
mint arch
fck illidan
mint arch
tyrande was too kind on his dumb message, should've just said fuck u
tropic trail
this is why im a orc warlock
mint arch
^
mint arch
nah, tyrande should've been "kind" and "forgiving" and sucked illidan and nightborne dick
-_-
tropic trail
tyrande was a bitch to the nightborne
cant forget that
and she was a bitch to my boy genn
hollow dock
She was because the NIghtborne had the legitimate potential to be the next sundering causing race
mint arch
^
uncut vault
I will still always find it funny that the thing Illidan actually gets called the betrayer for ended up basically saving the night elves and keeping their immortality
hollow dock
happened with Azshara
mint arch
nah, u should immediately trust this race of ppl who fcked her over in the last war
immediately trust them
uncut vault
But him joining the Legion was no biggie
tropic trail
so I should be an asshole to people just because they can potentially cause a lot of harm to me
ok
hollow dock
happened with Kael'thas.
mint arch
no one is talking about u mate
hollow dock
She has no reason tot hink it'd happen a THIRD TIME when a THIRD well has fallen to the LEGION.
hollow dock
Again, Tyrande has no reason to think otherwise Rys
When she first meets the Nightborne, she's not caught up like we are.
And even then, I certainly didn't fully trust the Nightborne
not until the very end o fthe quest when they let the Nightwell die
mint arch
and then we find out how petty the nightborne are xD
mint arch
genn is a good puppy >:3
hollow dock
genn did a lot of things wrong
mint arch
silver fox as well
tropic trail
like?
hollow dock
Locking up during the third war
Succeeding and abandoning the alliance in the third war
tropic trail
in the best interest of his people
hollow dock
No it wasn't
the scourge had not hit yet
He did it entirely because he didn't want to keep going with the alliance
He abandoned them all to hide behind his wall.
hollow dock
He has now. and ONLY NOW. Back during cataclysm everyone was unsure of him
including Varian
mint arch
character growth 
uncut vault
tropic trail
there's no excuse for her being a bitch
tranquil steeple
A character being a big improvement of his past doesn't make any bad doings invalid
tropic trail
you can still talk and deny people without being a bitch
hollow dock
Then there's no excuse for any characters bad attitude towards each other
when are you going to call out Varian
tropic trail
exactly
hollow dock
for shit talking Genn
mint arch
sylvanas xD
tropic trail
now
mint arch
talking about bitches
tropic trail
fuc u varian
hollow dock
and actually WANTING to remove him from the alliance
tropic trail
dissing genn
hollow dock
'course you wouldn't know as I assume you didnt read the stories surrounding him in cataclysm
In which I did ask when Tyrande dissed Genn
tropic trail
ecks dee
about the tyrande thing
I think it was in cata
cant remember
ill look it up though for you
uncut vault
Tyrande and Malf have always advocated for the Gilneans
tropic trail
I know
hollow dock
Tyrande Whisperwind and Malfurion Stormrage, the night elven leaders, welcome Greymane and the Gilnean survivors to Darnassus, and he instructs the survivors to assist the night elves in any way they can as repayment for the help they had given the Gilnean nation.
As far as I remember, she's only really been a bitch to those that deserve it.
hollow dock
The orcs that slaughtered, skinned and other unsavoury things her people.
The trolls that sided with them and fought her people.
Those that abandoned and nearly destroyed their home. (The highborne and nightborne)
mint arch
but she was mean ;_;
mint arch
meanie ;_;
tropic trail
I didnt call you overly sensitive though
hollow dock
really? your comment about it being 2018? :p
tropic trail
About how everyone has every right to be mad about that type of stuff seeing as how it's getting worst
and people are actively trying to prevent that type of nonsense
even in video games
dense plover
CURRENT YEAR ARGUMENT
uncut vault
π¬
tropic trail
She was a bitch to the nightborne lol
hollow dock
she was. and she had every right to do so.
tropic trail
Even the nightborne fighting against elisande?
dense plover
as a person, yes she had the right to do that - as a representative of the alliance, she goofed
hollow dock
Fighting against 1 dictator to possibly instil another after having abandoned tyrande.
yes.
tropic trail
I'm just sayin she shoulda kept her mouth shut
mint arch
but as a REAL rep would be, she was wary
hollow dock
she wasn't there to make allies
mint arch
^
tropic trail
There are times though where she could've kept her mouth shut
Unwise coming from someone you'd think has years of experience
hollow dock
She doesn't speak unless it involves her.
Again you don't have to like anything, but don't make up stuff :p
tropic trail
what am I making up?
hollow dock
Her dissing Genn for one.
hollow dock
That she needs to keep her mouth shut when she's involved with something and that she should know that.
tropic trail
I just said there are times where she should've kept her mouth shut
hollow dock
like when Rys?
When she's putting up legitimate concerns with the Nightborne as thy're the third race that gave a magical well of power to the Legion?
tropic trail
Siege of Orgrimmar raid?
frozen dust
"When can we get Mekkatorque's mech as an exalted mount" is my biggest Alliance leadership concern
candid salmon
character copy works now
hollow dock
When she ensures that Vol'jin knows that she isn't there to save them
cuz ya know
Vol'jin sided with the orcs
his people warred with Tyrande's for years
etc
hollow dock
"I'm here for Kalmindor, not you troll."
tropic trail
She didn't have to say that and she definitely did not have to say it in that manner
which is rude
lone marten
Ah 'kalmindor'
hollow dock
She did.
tropic trail
because he said her name
hollow dock
It's to ensure that Vol'jin and his forces know she is not there to work with the horde. She's not forgiven them at all.
tropic trail
but she didnt have to be a bitch about it though
hollow dock
To you she is, to me she's being assertive.
hollow dock
Velen?
tropic trail
he got so much shit and he's not a bitch about it
tropic trail
ok but there is never a good reason to be a bitch
frozen dust
Velen deserves better
tropic trail
absolutely
hollow dock
Again you see it as bitching
hollow dock
but I see it as Assertion.
tropic trail
you would say the same about jaina?
hollow dock
She isn't tho.
hollow dock
Like. Have you actually read the full length of her story
to see her full transformation?
hollow dock
Then that's on YOU. not her. She has every right to be the way she is.
dense plover
^
hollow dock
Except she does
dense plover
"i dont like her so shes a bad person"
frozen dust
Tyrande could have just attacked Vol'jin's troops in the middle of an invasion by the Burning Legion right there in front of Orgrimmar
mint arch
looool, memers think tyrande is a bitch/cunt
tropic trail
That's not what I said lol
dense plover
thats essentially what you said
tropic trail
No. It wasnt
hollow dock
She's been backstabbed, abused, and used by the horde every time she just wanted peace.
tropic trail
Lol
He started it so that gives me a reason to do the same thing!
Sounds stupid, right?
mint arch
they dont know of tyrande lore and backstory but she was mean boo hoo
hollow dock
Yes that's called VENGENCE. REVENGE. things like that Rys.
dense plover
just because somethings wrong doesnt mean its unjustified
hollow dock
She wanted to desperately just get back at Garrosh for what he did to her. She ended up not doing so
because she was reminded who she was.
Then AFTER ACTUALLY STARTING TO GET OVER IT
tropic trail
one right thing doesnt justify other wrong actions
hollow dock
Garrosh backstabs her again
Don't forget that
Jaina was starting to get better
she was starting to accept and move on
until Garrosh forced the Sunreavers to break the treaty of dalaran
tropic trail
pretty sure blizzard has acknowledged that she's fucked up a few times
hollow dock
thus causing the horde to ONCE MORE betray Jaina's trust.
We're not saying she hasn't
hollow dock
we're saying she's more than justified in the ways she acts
dense plover
dude - just because something isnt right doesnt make it unjustified
hollow dock
^
frozen dust
Surely she'd be willing to talk to the Horde now with Sylvanas in char-- naw I can't even finish that
dense plover
if a character has reasons, they have those reasons
dense plover
whether or not you disagree with their actions
hollow dock
but still commited a crime
dense plover
^
tropic trail
most people see that as wrong
hollow dock
I'm justified in my killing, but I still commited a crime. I still did wrong.
tropic trail
Im saying thats wrong and they shouldnt do that
tropic trail
and your argument is that its OK because it's "justified"
dense plover
they shouldnt, but they have every right to
hollow dock
don't be so obstinate. =/
dense plover
no
hollow dock
we're not
frozen dust
I'm not even sure what's going on anymore
dense plover
our argument is that its not an action from left-field
hollow dock
Rys is arguing that we're doing something we aren't
dense plover
it has some logic
dense plover
she has every right to
hollow dock
Jaina wanting to wipe out Orgrimmar IS NOT UNJUSTIFIED. it is WRONG.
dense plover
they werent rude
hollow dock
but it isn't UNJUST
dense plover
garrosh bombed theramore
dense plover
she saw her first and only apprentice disintegrate
forest tartan
Where was jaina when valerian exploded
tropic trail
So by your logic Rastakhan is a good guy
because he has "reasons" behind his actions
tropic trail
even if they come off as assholish
hollow dock
jesus fuck
dense plover
we never said good or bad
tropic trail
I AM
dense plover
we are saying reasonable or unreasonable
dense plover
good or bad doesnt matter in a world where one side is going to view the other as bad no matter what
hollow dock
^
dense plover
any action the horde takes is disliked by the alliance and vice versa
alliance hate forsaken for existing
frozen dust
We're just in a continuous cycle of eye for an eye
dense plover
horde hate humans because of all of horde history
tropic trail
So jaina is still a bitch but she has reason to be
dense plover
yes
tropic trail
doesnt make her less of a bitch though
tropic trail
then why are you saying she's not?
hollow dock
thanks for catching up
tropic trail
jesus
hollow dock
WE'RE NOT
dense plover
we arent
hollow dock
We're sayign SHE'S JUSTIFIED IN HER BITCHINESS
tropic trail
the fuck is this conversation lol
mint arch
lol, rys, why u getting triggered by a char being a bitch/asshole?
dense plover
most people would be way worse off than she is
hollow dock
You wanted to argue something not relevant.
dense plover
its kind of insane how not insane she is
hollow dock
She's used her hate to keep steady and now the hate's starting to become coals. She's reforged by war and tragedy.
tropic trail
Yes, she is a bitch
hollow dock
Yes we agree with you
tropic trail
Yes
hollow dock
Sucks when your pretend argument crumbles ey? :p
frozen dust
mrpeach774 - Today at 1:44 PM
its kind of insane how not insane she is(edited)
Only a dreadlord could be that not insane π€
tropic trail
more people should be like baine or velen
dense plover
its a joke
hollow dock
I know but people take it seriously and it triggers me so hard ;3;
frozen dust
Sorry :c
dense plover
probably less
tropic trail
thats the point though
tropic trail
watch me
dense plover
not for more than maybe 30 sec
mint arch
dense plover
a void being is what destroyed the home of the ethereals
i dont even think it was a void lord
it wwas just a being of the void
a void lord cant exist on our plane
hence - old gods
tropic trail
She's like sif
mint arch
J'aina!
tropic trail
OLD GOD EXPANSION
haha funny blizzard but we just found out your tricks
jaina is N'Zoth
mint arch
tropic trail
So, G'huun is an Old God?
viral schooner
Wowhead, is ir possible to add a accountwide honor level converter on legion -bfa on the site? So we can add all our toons and see what our toons total account honor/prestige is? Would be easier to help us find out if our accs total honor is enough for the 4 tints of artifact pvp appearences to be unlocked
tropic trail
According to what I know, G'huun is an Old God experimented on by the titans to find a way to kill off the other Old Gods without killing Azeroth.
I could be wrong though.
tranquil steeple
Wrong place to ask, but was already answered, wolf. Hold on lemme find it
viral schooner
Ethereal allied race?
tranquil steeple
Tradu: Was wondering if there are any plans for a calculator for converting all your live honor levels/prestiges into BfA honor levels, to see how close you are to whatever rewards it is you're interested in?
Sas148: Doubtful, it would probably take us a month just to make something like that and it would be obsolete pretty quickly thereafter. Wouldn't be a wise investment of our time really.
On the 8th of June, in #wowhead-feedback-support
viral schooner
Ah thx
tropic trail
I would have rather had Hakkar instead of G'huun
viral schooner
Guess its pvp wq farm nonstop till bfa launch
hollow dock
G'huun actually bridges and gives more information than Hakkar ever would tho.
tropic trail
Out of all the potential raid bosses, you would guess Hakkar would be one
definitely with the Zandalari being relevant now
I know he was
limber mural
I thought G'huun was like, a result of old god experimentation
like, an amalgamation of cast-off parts and blood
tropic trail
maybe
hollow dock
Not really? Zandalar has always opposed Hakkar and the Blood Trolls aren't connected to him.
tropic trail
Ok but the blood trolls were made with ghuun
hollow dock
Yea. they were.
Cuz they wanted to make G'huun and it's pretty dang relevant to the story as that's how its crafted. Hakkar has always been a Gurubashi thing
not Zandalar
tropic trail
pose a threat to the zandalari
as ghuun does
both hakkar and ghuun have similar goals
both are considered blood gods
hollow dock
Hakkar wants to destroy everything.
G'huun wants to devour everything.
mint arch
J'aina wants to freeze everything
terse patrol
i still want hakkar to c-section his way out of gβhuunβs belly
tropic trail
Look, im sorry but hakkar would've been a better fit
hollow dock
I like old god themes a heckin lot more Β―_(γ)_/Β―
tropic trail
Instead of making a new character they could've revisited an old one and give it more lore
thats my problem
hollow dock
I mean
This falls under the whole 'They have done a lot more behind hte scenes'
So for all we know, they could have tried and made it Hakkar
and just never liked it
terse patrol
i mean, hakkar would have been a good tie in since they said Uldir also tested on Loa
hollow dock
and if they don't like it, it aint made.
tropic trail
Ghuun is just a copy of hakkar
they couldnt think up new story for the zandalari so they had to take inspiration from old lore
Sure theyre could be some problems with adding Hakkar into the story but at this point with all the fuckups they have done, it'd be one of the positive things
rich apex
Let's be real
Every WoW story is milking a previous Warcraft story
The entire point of WoW is to milk WC3 nostalgia
hollow dock
and Rys your accusations are absolutely basless and all on your own personal feelings.
tropic trail
If you dont know what I meant by copy you might want to rethink it for a few minutes
hollow dock
A copy is just that.
A copy. You made a mimic of something. You're saying G'huun is a mimic of Hakkar even though both don't have the same personality, both don't have the same abilities, both don't even share similar goals
The only thing that's similar between the two is that they both deal with blood
Hakkar drinks it up with glee while G'huun corrupts and spreads diseases through it
tropic trail
A copy as in their intentions were to recreate Hakkar as a new character
hollow dock
how do you know that's what their intentions were?
tropic trail
Please pay attention to the argument or dont even bother saying anything at all
gilded drum
Someone brought it up before, dunno if it was answered. Gβhuun is the result of Titan experimentation on old gods. Believe it was @limber mural that brought it up.
hollow dock
you're claiming to have more knowledge than the development team
me, peach, quiet, Port, hyper, honk have all brought it up too Quell
We've been talkin about him anytime he comes up cuz we're all very excited to see more of him
gilded drum
I was just quickly scanning chat. Brass was the first name that stuck out.
hollow dock
Disgusting little mouth-to-stomach thing it is
gilded drum
I have 10 mins before work so Iβm hanging out in best chat
hollow dock
Yay we're best chat C=
limber mural
whom pingest
gilded drum
Me
limber mural
ah
gilded drum
Message is a lil bit above
limber mural
yeah I didn't bring it up I just answered it and left
gilded drum
I just saw you talking about it. My bad.
limber mural
I do not belong here I belong in mount camping
hollow dock
git that shitty anime thing off my message void
limber mural
goodbyeeeee
gilded drum
Once again I was just quickly catching up in chat
hollow dock
noooooooooooooo
tropic trail
Yes, I do believe that to be their intention. As I said, it's like they took the whole Hakkar conflict and just changed it up to where it doesn't seem like a complete copy (what you're referring to it as)
hollow dock
NOOOOOOO
mint arch
hollow dock
but if their intentions are to just use Hakkar's story
how would they be copying Hakkar?...
by using Hakkar
limber mural
Vris didn't you foresee if you tell people to not do a thing they will
gilded drum
Tell Blizz to not release BFA tomorrow
mint arch
tropic trail
Common sense maybe
tropic trail
Look Im just not going to explain every little thing I say, not to be rude
gilded drum
Just to spite you
hollow dock
then make sense in what you say at least
tropic trail
I am though
hollow dock
you're saying them using Hakkar in Zandalar is a copy of Hakkar
and they changed it to g'huun
to not make it a copy of Hakkar
?????????????
tropic trail
Im saying that the whole ghuun conflict is somewhat copied off the hakkar conflict
hollow dock
By that logic the Lich King conflict is copied off the Hakkar conflict.
tropic trail
thats stupid logic
hollow dock
The Burning Legion is a copy of it too. Β―_(γ)_/Β―
tropic trail
hakkar is cool tho
hollow dock
yea he is.
tropic trail
zandalari didnt give a shit about the damn lich king though
never got to experience the fight itself
hollow dock
they didn't know hte lich king existed
tropic trail
or the burning legion
hollow dock
They knew the legion did tho
they just didn't care for that one.
But a big baddie being a threat to a civilization is as basic bare bones as you can get
you can slot that in for anything and you're calling it a copy just because its Hakkar and G'huun
tropic trail
Youre making it sound stupid so you can prove your point
obviously avoiding mine entirely
so what exactly is your point?
hollow dock
Because it is stupid
You're stating that G'huun is a copy of Hakkar. I've constantly shown you that no it's not the case.
er
there we go
tropic trail
Except youre making it sound dumb
hollow dock
Because you now sstated it away from their thematics and abilities
tropic trail
so you can get your point across
hollow dock
and now to the situation they're in
Of which I then slotted it to every single conflict that has happened in WoW
dense plover
ghuun conflict is nothing like the hakkar conflict
hollow dock
because its the same basis of conflict
dense plover
vris
instead of trying to prove them wrong
ask them to prove them right
so rys
how are they similar?
please
tropic trail
argument winners
untold fractal
via wowpedia "Although they are both Blood Gods and worshiped by the trolls, G'huun is unrelated to Hakkar the Soulflayer.[4]"
agile token
G'huun was an experiment for a fifth old god
tropic trail
Yes I know
agile token
??????????????
gilded drum
Isnβt there a vanilla dungeon like.. Temple of Hakkar? Or is that a WotLK dungeon?
agile token
How is hakkar even remotely related to g'huun
tropic trail
Obviously there is manipulation involved here so Im not going to bother continuing this
Sorry about that guys
dense plover
well, an experiment not for a fifth old god but to remove the others (probably) - it went wrong and became an independent entity, which is why it is so much smaller than the other old gods
tropic trail
I would love to explain
tropic trail
but they are manipulating the conversation
gilded drum
tropic trail
Maybe another time, for now I have things I have to do
don't be an eichenwald
maybe when it doesnt start off like this
agile token
π€£
tropic trail
lmao
Though, y'all are very welcome to continue the discussion about it
I just wont be
dense plover
thats fine
tropic trail
atleast not for right now
dense plover
i just read through what you wrote
its really fucking wrong
zandalari werent threatened by hakkar
they were worried about the other tribes
untold fractal
I can see how thematically they are similar, but I wouldnt call G'huun a copy. G'huun has established lore, where its origins are very different from Hakkar's
tropic trail
To be fair I had an entirely different point but she was manipulating the conversation leading me onto other things
dense plover
hakkar isnt worshipped by the trolls on zandalar, so he couldnt have been a boss
ghuun has entirely separate goals compared to hakkar
tropic trail
I know
dense plover
and blood gods is just how they are worshipped - its unrelated
hollow dock
I didn't really manipulate it. I've been asking for you to clarify and telling you the distinct facts between Hakkar and G'huun.
dense plover
and theres nothing wrong with making a new character
hakkar wouldnt have made sense for a titan facility
which is clearly what they wanted
tropic trail
I know
dense plover
they clearly wanted to do old god titan facility stuff
tropic trail
Thats part of my point peach
dense plover
and ghuun isnt similar to hakkar in any way
its like comparing cake and ice cream
they are both dessert
thats it
tropic trail
I know
dense plover
then why did you argue that
tropic trail
because that wasnt my point
dense plover
you literally said and i quote "ghuun is just a copy of hakkar"
dense plover
"hakkar wouldve fit in better"
tropic trail
manipulation
dense plover
stop your bullshit
tropic trail
Yeah that was true
dense plover
i read through both sides
tropic trail
Lmao
dense plover
you are flat out wrong, there was no manipulation
hollow dock
thanks Peach.
dense plover
and now you are trying to cover your ass
tropic trail
You respect my choice to stop it for now and then you tell me to stop my bullshit
please dont even bother
strange falcon
peach is right,for a few times in his life π
dense plover
im telling you to stop trying to blame vris
you ddun fucked up
you are wrong
and you claim manipulation
there was no manipulation
tropic trail
Why do I even bother
hollow dock
to be fair peach, he said 'copy' and then immediately backtracked on it when I called him out on it
tropic trail
Y'all remind me a lot of myself
Anyways I hope y'all have a good day
Im going to complete the rest of these world quests
in this amount of time you could've actually explained yourself
Yeah I know but they keep trying to move the conversation
into the direction they want it to go
I wont even bother calling it manipulation
dense plover
"Ghuun is just a copy of hakkar
they couldnt think up new story for the zandalari so they had to take inspiration from old lore
Sure theyre could be some problems with adding Hakkar into the story but at this point with all the fuckups they have done, it'd be one of the positive things
Vris - Today at 11:42 AM
he really isnt
G'huun is not a copy of Hakkar.
Hyperewok1 - Today at 11:42 AM
Let's be real
Every WoW story is milking a previous Warcraft story
The entire point of WoW is to milk WC3 nostalgia
Vris - Today at 11:42 AM
and Rys your accusations are absolutely basless and all on your own personal feelings.
Ryswell - Today at 11:42 AM
If you dont know what I meant by copy you might want to rethink it for a few minutes"
you dont know what a copy is
you are wrong
factually wrong
tropic trail
See my point spellboy?
rich apex
He's got no bones
dense plover
hakkar might make sense as something the blood trolls fall back to after ghuun is defeated
but it wouldnt make sense even from the start
hakkar was never worshipped on zandalar
ever
hakkar is also sort of dead right now
also, zul doesnt like hakkar
he helped kill hakkar
zul wouldnt have been a boss if the bad guy was hakkar
the story would literally have to go in a completely different direction
also, hakkar isnt really a threat anymore
we can kill loa pretty successfully
we kill hireek during a quest
hakkar isnt even an equivalent threat to ghuun
would i like to see hakkar and have that story finished? yes
tropic trail
It's hard to say anything when y'all pin me against the wall and fuck me
dense plover
is he going to show up? no
tropic trail
Sorry for my language
dense plover
maybe you should say a complete idea instead of a half formed one, and then try and blame other people for interpretting your half-formed idea, as is
because there is no way to judge how complete an idea is
dense plover
write it as a bblock of text using ctrl-enter
and again, when we ask tto clarify and you deflect, thats sus af
hollow dock
shift+enter gives you new lines for typing if you want to space everything out
dense plover
oh, its shift-enter, woops
tropic trail
Actually I'll continue chatting here
Ill just not chat with them
So you wanted to see my point?
dense plover
yes? i asked for it, and then you deflected
"mrpeach774 - Today at 11:56 AM
stop for a sec
everyone stop
you explain
and then we will explain
ok?
Quellv - Today at 11:56 AM
:esfandH:
Ryswell - Today at 11:56 AM
Imagine someone trying to do that IRL
lmao
mrpeach774 - Today at 11:56 AM
rys
just go
Ryswell - Today at 11:57 AM
Maybe another time, for now I have things I have to do
Spellboy - Today at 11:57 AM
don't be an eichenwald
Ryswell - Today at 11:57 AM
maybe when it doesnt start off like this"
deflection
give your point
tropic trail
Sorry man but youre just too brutal, I'll love to chat but you make a conversation go sour
dense plover
instead of commenting about how hard it is to make a point, fucking make one
tropic trail
No offense but I'm going to block you.
I dont usually tell people when I block them but I just want you to save your time
dense plover
lol, good luck with that. i participate in a large chunk of conversation in this channel, youll be pretty confused
also
i love how you still havent made your fuckin point
STILL
tropic trail
Take it easy man, I don't mean to be so mean but it gets out of hand
tropic trail
eichenwald pls
dense plover
you claim its hard to make a point, but you wont make it
hollow dock
Happens everytime I call em out Rys.
dense plover
just make your point
tropic trail
Sorry for that spellboy
also i dont know who that is
Anyways you wanted to know my point?
ffs yes
I know the topic has changed but I'll be happy to
Sure
Well I just watched videos and read about the Zandalari Lore
After reading about the current situations I noticed how Ghuun is like Hakkar
I know it's more detailed than that
and each have their own story and whatnot
but I was firstly saying that Hakkar would fit more
and they could've gave him more lore
Sure they wouldnt have the titan facility
but they could've introduced other important locations and characters along with hakkar
which could be as important as a titan facility
hollow dock
*Peach, don't you love how much his language has changed from 'G'huun is a copy of Hakkar' to 'G'huun is similar to Hakkar' *
dense plover
no titan facility, no old gods, hakkar cant get more lore - we already know hakkar's lore
sullen dagger
^
dense plover
hakkar's lore is in chronicles
sullen dagger
'evening folks
dense plover
its already in stone
tropic trail
Evening
hollow dock
heya Omake.
Rys has me and Peach on ignore
cuz we called him out on his bullshit and he's refused to defend himself on it
dense plover
still hasnt tbh
dense plover
"theyre similar, but i wont say how" "hakkar would fit more but i wont say why"
sullen dagger
i guess that's a hunch
tropic trail
Ghuun is a good character no doubt about it
dense plover
"you guys are manipulating me because im deflecting"
tropic trail
Just I would've rather seen more Hakkar
dense plover
i also want to see hakkar
i said that
but hakkar doesnt fit in
hakkar was never worshipped on zandalar
hollow dock
and that's fine Rys. I'd like to see more Hakkar as well.
dense plover
most zandalari dont even know hakkar
tropic trail
Maybe they could've saved Ghuun for another expansion or zone
dense plover
the blood trolls definitely dont
sullen dagger
you mena hakkar the blood god? as in zulgurub?
tropic trail
Yeah
dense plover
as in the dead loa that only certain worshippers and zandalari know about
dense plover
^ this is the story i expect to happen
hollow dock
He teaches the blood trolls to resurrect Hakkar
hollow dock
8.1.5 bam. Hakkar's resurgence
dense plover
following ghuun, resurrection of hakkar because thats the next blood god
and its an easy-ish transition for the blood trolls
dense plover
the other way, wouldnt make snese
hollow dock
I wonder how blocked up Rys' chat is right now tbh
tropic trail
Y'know Im actually really happy they added Zandalari Dinoforms
Just fits so damn well
Me and a friend made a bet on it a while back
sullen dagger
i'd preffer something like we kill g'huun -> then we slap the shit outta azhshara (yes i have some business with her since friggin years) and then black citadel
dense plover
see i dont think black empire will be a raid
itll either be three zones like argus
or itll be its own expac
hollow dock
I'd hope Black Empire be like argus yea.
dense plover
which is what i want
hollow dock
Though to be honest
If we complain about legion beign 1 color pallate
people wouldn't like Black Empire
sullen dagger
agree
hollow dock
which is just Purples, reds and blacks
sullen dagger
all purpley and black
dense plover
i think patch progression is going to involve the first island raised being azshara and world stuff
hollow dock
rather than green, reds and blacks
untold fractal
any;thing is better than green right now
dense plover
in between would be a good time to have some hakkar stuff
sullen dagger
i think legion was more because fel was all that there were
gaunt helm
Was Taloc Freed or what?>
dense plover
as a break raid or dungeon between raids
legion wasnt all fel tho
we had five zones that were pretty
sullen dagger
now in this xpac we have blood, void, weird kinky thingies with azshara
dense plover
they just all had fel in them
mint arch
v o i d
dense plover
so far there isnt a lot of purple void stuff
old god tentacle guys
but no void stuff
mint arch
i do like purple~
gaunt helm
G huun
untold fractal
who doesnt love tentacle stuff
mint arch
tropic trail
Ok
sullen dagger
ok?
hollow dock
OK.
strange falcon
OK
sullen dagger
great movie
but it's weird, i rememer watching that with like 7-8 years?
now i tried to re-watch that with my cousins that are at that range of ages-
bad idea
lone marten
Ace ventura!
daring wind
tropic trail
Beautiful
r/azerothporn
ah fuck it's actual porn
I thought it would be like r/earthporn
meager warren
Or, r/aestheticperfection
dense plover
He is against hakkar
tropic trail
doesnt the cinematic show Hakkar in the flames as Zul talks to the other troll chieftains
dense plover
He helped organize the removal of hakkar in cata
Yeah
Because he wanted it gone
He worked for it
Then he didnt
tropic trail
damn this channel is dead lol
Anyways, what will happen when you get legendaries leveling through legion with the new talents?
Belo'vir's Final Stand being Blazing Soul n' all?
strange falcon
if you have legendary effects made talents,they stack
hollow dock
I mean when you ignore the only people who are consistently active and answer your questions
expect it to be dead
strange falcon
they already said this
tropic trail
My bad, I didnt see that
Well that's what this channel is for I guess lol
What about double artifact abilities?
hollow dock
I mean. We've said, with you present, that artifacts are outright getting disabled in Prepatch
strange falcon
they count as two different abilities
hollow dock
So they cannot stack together
tropic trail
ok thanks
meager warren
Thinks people pay attention and have anything more than the attention span of a squirrel
hollow dock
and the memory of a goldfish ey, arson?
meager warren
Tbh, both goldfish and squirrels have terrible memory
meager warren
Everything looks great in BfA.
It always does until it turns out not so gr8
Eying WoD
hollow dock
WoD was great until it stopped being great
meager warren
It was but it also wasn't great
tropic trail
Anyone know if this is actual in-game armor?
and where I can find it
or atleast something similar to it
tropic trail
kind of had the impression that's where people just post their tmogs
or the hate against slutmogs
hollow dock
I'd tell you
but you have me on ignore
so what's the use
It's ulduar warlock gear
tropic trail
Can we hide feet in BFA?
hollow dock
nope.
deft carbon
I love that snow _ π
zealous basalt
Like gear?
hollow dock
Yes Makore
zealous basalt
You can
hollow dock
We won't be able to hide our feet with mogs like we do everything else
zealous basalt
With some invisible gear
hollow dock
Oh with invisible mogs sure. :p
zealous basalt
Like the armor piece
zealous basalt
But I dont think we can hide our feet
hollow dock
Like we do our cloaks, shoulders and head.
But Rys has me on ignore for some odd reason.
zealous basalt
He luvs u
tropic trail
2 blocked messages kappa
hollow dock
I don't think rys knows what kappa means
zealous basalt
Otp
tropic trail
lmao
meager warren
Ulduar warlock gear, huh?
tropic trail
What about it?
sullen dagger
dayum that's cold
man amazon sucks a big time
my bts novel arrives the 28th
-_-
neat idol
Ptr has prepatch quest already?
meager warren
Idk. But that ulduar warlock gear. <3
neat idol
Any idea of when is the new build?
hollow dock
Nope
When it comes to PTR/BEta
we're at the whims of Blizz
We guestimate roughly tuesday-thursday
that's when builds get dropped
sullen dagger
btw there arent any warden gear for players, amiright?
hollow dock
just the warden toy
sullen dagger
warden toy?
meager warren
Warden toy.
hollow dock
Yea
out of the emissary you can get a toy that turns you into a warden
warden emissary that is
sullen dagger
ah, but no transmog at all
hollow dock
Yea no. Just a toy sadly.
sullen dagger
there was a friend asking about that today
hollow dock
You can maguyver your own warden set
sullen dagger
and i wasnt sure
hollow dock
but no official warden gear
uncut vault
Been farming that since it came out, still no bloody toy
hollow dock
I got it week before my sub ran out
uncut vault
Cape + prisms can mean perma warden look
sullen dagger
dont think there's a helmet even similar
hollow dock
There isn't.
uncut vault
But noooo, I got five army of the light elekks
meager warren
I want a transmog like Loki in Thor: Ragnarok
restive sage
hollow dock
he's just in a jerkin though
frozen dust
I use the LFR Nighthold druid set for a Warden guesstimate
hollow dock
https://twitter.com/ChristieGolden/status/1008829575202107392?s=19 RIP ALL HOPES AND DREAMS ;3;
sullen dagger
and puppy ears
but in a future expansion having a permanent semi transform would be great
tropic trail
π€’
sullen dagger
i really hate the fact that my npc goes furry every time i fight or get aggro
tropic trail
play human then
sullen dagger
i mean i'm a friggin druid, if i wanna hit, i go full momma bear
hollow dock
I played a druid worgen right
when he got drunk
he had this massive existential crisis about not haivng a tail in worgen form
but having it in Bear, cat, and even moonkin form
sullen dagger
that's straight funny
but i really think, jokes aside, that the wirgen need an in depth review
some model retouching and to be able to turn off the auto furry
harsh canyon
Anyone know where to get weapons for when trying out other specs?
harsh canyon
Yeah, Heading back to order halls since I didn't have some heirlooms on alts
sleek scarab
Just got my beta account... do I need game time on my live account to play on beta or I can do it without time?
hollow dock
you're supposed to do it without the need of live time
supposed to be able to do it* rather
but some people have reported otherwise
sleek scarab
I didnβt find anything about it yet
dense plover
i think they fixed it
you dont need time
if it says you do, then the bug hasnt been fixed
sleek scarab
Sadly I canβt use the updated client to install the beta
dense plover
why?
sleek scarab
When locating the game with beta account, it says thatβs not the right version instead of trying to use the files and update
sleek scarab
Well... a few minutes after a fresh install, I was able to open the game and play... so, we donβt need game time on live servers to play on beta
meager warren
Pokes Makore once
zealous basalt
I need some theory blast
meager warren
Wdym
meager warren
Share it
zealous basalt
Azerite can make dragons regain the power lost from the aspects
meager warren
Wat
zealous basalt
What you read
Could Azerite give the dragons enough power to restore their reproductive abilities
dense plover
maybe?
probably not
its powerful
but the power they had was given to each dragon by the titans
i doubt a titans blood is enough
zealous basalt
Is there a small possibility?
dense plover
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
technically anything is possible
i dont see them doing this
it would make their sacrifice worthless
now - if you could do it with lots of azerite, and moruzond was gathering lots i could see that happening
uncut vault
Seeing as we're also getting seemingly uncorrupted black dragons, and theyre opposed to anyone using azerite, I doubt it can do that
zealous basalt
I see
verbal dust
Hey guys im wondering where can i find usefull article about leveling in bfa, maybe some advices where to start? For example in legion Highmountain was best choice to start with cause of toys for flying
Maybe videos too
uncut vault
I donβt know about guides, but Iβd recommend Stormsong -> drustvar -> tiragarde for ally
sullen dagger
why not enjoy the leveling without guides and whatnot?
i mean, you have new zones
enjoy the hell oytta them
let the minmax and quickness be for the alts
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
cinder osprey
is character copy working again on the ptr yet?
unique crag
Does anyone know if upright posture and golden eyes will come with prepatch?
sage night
unkempt void
did anyone else get the Dune Scavenger mount in Voldun from a random mob? i did but i dont expect that to be intended
also its bind on use
its probally a low drop, my luck right there i get in on beta and not on live π’
uncut vault
most of the zone mounts are from random mobs, so its probably intended
chrome compass
Character copy was working for me last night, I don't think I saw the button earlier though
chrome compass
Is there anyway to pick up the epilogue quest, if it didn't show up when you first log in?
tropic trail
survival gonna be good in BFA?
uncut vault
Design wise, it's a lot better. So far numbers have been good too on the beta.
chrome compass
π€ π€ π€ π€
grizzled sleet
One weapon to rule them all
chrome compass
This is the reason Tirion died.
The Ashbringer grew 12x's his height.
I think it keeps growing if you keep swapping appearences too...
Yes... Yes it does.
sullen dagger
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