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[still lily]

Well I'ma dip

Have fun talking owo

[urban dew]

See ya Gamma

[tropic trail]

Look I have some good ideas

[uncut vault]

the items are useless in 8.0

sell for gold

[tropic trail]

Second "lich king" expansion, Vrykul Race (or allied race), and necromancer hero class.

Whaddya think?

[strange falcon]

well,a very prominent role in their society are skycallers,and guess what they do 24/7 use lightning powers,and who does lightning,shamans

[weak bison]

transmog a new weap to a rake

[strange falcon]

sethrak shamans confirmed

[tropic trail]

Wait... wait! I got it!

Necromancer

normal class

[urban dew]

It doesn't really matter that much to me for what their classes would be, since I plan on leveling them all up to max

[tropic trail]

level 1

[strange falcon]

well,to make a necromancer

they would have to heavily prune unholy and a bit of warlock

and warlocks already got pruned with DHs

[hollow dock]

Affliction would need to get pruned

Unholy would need to be pruned

they won't be doing that :p

If they take the D3 necro, then blood as well needs to get pruned

[tropic trail]

Demon Hunters, Necromancers, and Death Knights were the planned Hero Classes afaik.

[hollow dock]

Necros were before DKs were made

or on the table

[tropic trail]

DH was originally planned for BC but it was scrapped

[strange falcon]

to make demon hunters,they had to prune warlocks for metamorphosis and such

[hollow dock]

they made DKs and well.

To much of a necromancer in WoW's universe is in the DK baked

[strange falcon]

they said in an interview that they scrapped DHs for tbc because they didnt have the tech

[tropic trail]

They can think up something

They change lore without giving shits anyways

not to be rude

[hollow dock]

Again Rys

Chronicles was made SPECIFICALLY to not retcon the past anymore

it's the end all be all of WoW's history

[tropic trail]

True

Such a disappointment

[hollow dock]

It's better than the past 13 years of retcons

Like. Even wth WC3 it retconned shit out of WC1 and 2.

Chornicles is made to stop it and that's a disappointment?

[tropic trail]

Disappointing that all the stuff in the past was changed

and no necromancer hero class

I like the chronicles, I should probably read them

expensive though

and just like that everyone's gone

[urban dew]

Not much I can talk about, other than my Arakkoa ideas

[tropic trail]

Go ahead

I would like to hear about it

If you want

[urban dew]

Yeah, I love to hear more opinions. Keep in mind though, this is something thought up recently as I've had to trash the original scenario because of new info

So you know of the whole deal in AU Draenor, right?

[tropic trail]

No, not really

[urban dew]

Do you know about the Mag'har scenario at all?

[tropic trail]

recruitment scenario?

or just what they're all about?

[urban dew]

The recruitment

[tropic trail]

No

[urban dew]

Do you mind if I tell you the basic of what's going down?

[tropic trail]

No, go ahead.

[strange falcon]

yrel going light nazi is the summary of that

[urban dew]

Well put simply

Yeah

Yrel and the Draenei from AU Draenor go totally fanatical, at least by the time the Horde champion goes there

Since they had no enemy to focus on, they became too engrossed in the light

And the Naaru had Yrel try to bring the orcs to the light. This started off peacefully but gradually got more aggresive

Eventually it turned into a war between the Mag'har orcs, and the Draenei and Lightbound (Which are also orcs)

So by the end, the Horde champion takes the remaining Mag'har clans back to Prime Azeroth, which results in them being an AR

[tropic trail]

Oh yeah, I've read about some of that.

Speaking of which, does Durotan die?

[urban dew]

The way the Horde got to AU Draenor is taking the last shard of the artifact that Garrosh and Kairoz use to go to AU Draenor

And yes, he was killed off screen by the lightbound I believe

My original idea played off of using that shard to eventually go and bring Yrel and her Draenei to MU Azeroth, but instead the Arakkoa are the unlikely ally we recruit instead

But apparently it turns out that shard shatters after the Mag'har scenario

Curiously enough though, Sylvanas keeps the fragments of that shard

So now my new idea plays off of that, with the Alliance champion infiltrating Orgrimmar to steal the fragments, and have it recrafted with the help of the Dark Iron and Void Elves (And possibly Bronze.)

It'll require a good deal of refinement, but I'm far too tired for that right now

But that's the gist of it

[tropic trail]

Wait so how do we accidentally recruit the Arakkoa?

[urban dew]

We end up helping them against the light crusade going on in AU Draenor

[tropic trail]

So they are being effected by...

yrel's light nazi's ways?

[urban dew]

It was actually the Naaru that set them off I believe

[hollow dock]

yrel doesnt have light nazi ways. We dont know the full context behind whats going on back there. Please don't assume.

[tropic trail]

That was uncalled for

I was just repeating what the other guy said

to make sure everything is clear

[uncut vault]

Tfw Yrel fighting the people she tried to make peace with, who killed her sister and mentors, makes her a nazi

[hollow dock]

tfw the Naaru and Velen told her that the Light's the only way

she still the nazi tho

[urban dew]

We don't have complete info on what's going on there, but it does seem the light crusade going on isn't all too friendly to those not accepting of their ways.

[solid sparrow]

Wouldn’t mind seeing Yrel again

[tropic trail]

So since it's a direct war between the Draenei and the Orcs are the Arakkoa just getting effected by the war or what's happenin'?

[hollow dock]

Well what I can gather so far Ambassador is this:

Yrel has begun to convert those who were willing. The Orcs do step up and become the Lightbound

HOWEVER

Orcs are savage creatures.

[urban dew]

Arakkoa are probably a second target, since they have those that follow the Void

[hollow dock]

They begin to forcibly convert

[tropic trail]

Okay, I'm following on now.

So is it the Horde or Alliance that recruits the Arakkoa?

[hollow dock]

Unknown whether or not Yrel approves or even if she's fully aware that the Lightbound are openly attacking.

[tropic trail]

Also void elves seem very out of place in the alliance now.

[urban dew]

For what I have, it'd be the Alliance

[hollow dock]

They are Rys

[urban dew]

But honestly it could go either way, depending on how Blizz wants to spin it

[hollow dock]

but can't have High Elves that'd be to confusing for the hordes 10 IQ brains

[urban dew]

I think they'd be a nice fit with the Alliance though

[hollow dock]

after some story expansions yea.

[tropic trail]

Well since it can go either way I'll say Horde

Firstly alliance kiddos wont be happy with a non pretty race

and second their culture fits with the horde

[hollow dock]

arakkoa are pretty damn adorable

[tropic trail]

but didnt the orcs and arakkoa fight?

[hollow dock]

unless its the outcasts

and not the adherents

[urban dew]

The orcs on MU Draenor slaughtered the outcasts there, captured the few remaining winged ones and threw them into Sethe's blood pools to watch them twitch in agony.

That was after they helped the outcasts to reclaim Skyreach as they were promised to have it back

[hollow dock]

Ah OK.

I got a little confused.

so yea they'd definitely go alliance

[tropic trail]

That's MU though

He's talking about AU Draenor

[hollow dock]

and the MU Orcs

[urban dew]

Would you trust the people who's ancestors tortured those of your kind?

[tropic trail]

MU Orcs regret a lot of things

Also the Zandalari are with the Pandaren

[hollow dock]

AU Orcs also slaughtered the Arakkoa

just sayin

as for the pandaren

[urban dew]

Iron Horde did attempt to push their way into Spires

[hollow dock]

fuckin no one remembers them

[urban dew]

Terrok himself had to step up with the PC to stop them

[tropic trail]

I might transfer horde

as far as being "humans ftw"

Ill go undead

[hollow dock]

Do it. I hope you enjoy it.

[strange falcon]

dew it

[tropic trail]

Can't

30 dollars is a lot

[hollow dock]

farm the gold for it

[strange falcon]

DEW IT

[tropic trail]

I can buy it with gold?

[hollow dock]

WoW tokens

they can be redeemed as Bnet currency

[urban dew]

But either way, I still think Arakkoa would fit well with Alliance since they believe in a balance between Light/Void.

[hollow dock]

which can pay for all the store stuff

[tropic trail]

True

[urban dew]

And would you look at our two legion ARs. Light and void focused.

[tropic trail]

Horde is 10x better than Alliance so far

only problem is

horde is dead

oh and there are some assholes on horde

[hollow dock]

in what way Rys? o= personal preference or?

[strange falcon]

how is horde dead o.o

you mean on your server

[tropic trail]

No

My friend swapped to Horde

so I wanted to make a horde

[urban dew]

I think that it's down to opinion on which faction is better. I, personally, plan on going wherever my ARs go, more specifically the Sethrak as they are the most likely now, over Arakkoa.

[tropic trail]

and at the time I assumed alliance was normal because popular games have annoying people

and stuff like that, y'know?

Anyways I leveled up my undead rogue on Horde.

Tich btw if y'all are wondering

And the community is so much nicer

more helpful

[strange falcon]

horde is great

[tropic trail]

while people on my servers.

Dalaran, Lightbringer, and Darkspear

[hollow dock]

I mean. Im on alliance and on my servers a lot more people are helpful on both sides. The trolls stay in Trade Chat. :p

[tropic trail]

Are really douchy or obnoxious

Also the alliance lore just seems like generic fantasy stuff

or whatever lol

Horde just feels unique to me

[hollow dock]

night elf lore is pretty great.

Dwarven lore with the war of the three hammers and the Wildhammer stuff is pretty neat.

Human lore is always generic

its human

[tropic trail]

yeah but it's kind of generic

[hollow dock]

humans are generic

[urban dew]

It's why I hope that Sethrak goes Alliance

Will be a nice breath of fresh air

[hollow dock]

🤷 so are the orcs. and trolls.

[tropic trail]

also so many slutmogs on Alliance

[fossil rover]

i somewhat doubt that we will get arakkoa since zandalari balance form looks alot like them

[hollow dock]

Theres at least twice as much on the horde side for my servers Rys

cuz belvs

[urban dew]

They may look similar model wise, but their appearance is completely different

[tropic trail]

yeah but belvs is the only slutty race on the horde

[urban dew]

And plus that means that they have a model players can use

[hollow dock]

nightborne?

[urban dew]

So it's a plus for Arakkoa!

[hollow dock]

They do make orcs pretty slutty over there

[strange falcon]

you've not seen a female tauren in a slutmog O.O

[tropic trail]

Orcs cant be slutty

[hollow dock]

Trolls as well.

[tropic trail]

dont be ridiculous

[hollow dock]

Yes they can

have you see their females?

[tropic trail]

Yes

Me and my cousin agrees they're uggo

[hollow dock]

Everything except the face fits in a slut mog

[fossil rover]

looks pretty similar except for the wings part to me

[hollow dock]

plus man sluts

so many man sluts

[mint arch]

HAHAHAHAHA

sylvanas yet again

dislike the orcs,trolls and taurens - the core of the Horde- , while she considers Sargeras's final act as a gift

not evil plsssss

just misunderstood~

[hollow dock]

Hordes not evil guize

[urban dew]

The Zanda boomkin looks more like a falcosaur than the Arakkoa

Anyways, i should be off to sleep

[tropic trail]

Sure trolls can be sexy but Im talking about the "generic blonde" type of slutmog

[urban dew]

It's almost 4 in the morning

[tropic trail]

which bothers me

good night

[urban dew]

Good night guys

Pray for birbs and sneks!

[hollow dock]

That exists on the horde in the same capacity

if not more

cuz females of the horde are all still sexy in bodytype ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil rover]

sylvanas seems to be more insane than pure evil

[hollow dock]

and the man sluts. shudder

[tropic trail]

Okay just hear me out

when next expansion world pvp becomes a thing because of the xp bonus

[mint arch]

correction: sylvanas is insane AND evil

[hollow dock]

You'll be sharded into a massive PVP cluster that'll do its best to balance out horde and alliance.

So no one side won't get tipped into imbalance

[mint arch]

slutmogs are the only mogs~

[fossil rover]

i might be wrong but dosnt she belive that turning people into undead is the best for them?

[tropic trail]

Well just hear me out now

[mint arch]

aye, she thinks humanity is the curse

[hollow dock]

Pretty much like

[mint arch]

forget the exact passage

[hollow dock]

one step left to go

until ya know

Lich Queendom

[mint arch]

she wants to attack stormwind to release humans of their humanity

[tropic trail]

You cant get the same satisfaction of killing big ass scary dudes on the horde as an alliance player as you can get playing as the big ass scary dude on the horde killing small little slutty draeneis or nightelves

get what I mean?

[fossil rover]

seems more insane than evil to me

[hollow dock]

not at all

cuz I dont promote vilence towards women

[mint arch]

she is insane

[hollow dock]

👍

[mint arch]

she's evil from so much shit she's done in the past

just now we know she's also become insane

respekt wamen pls btw~

[tropic trail]

Well hear me out some more

[hollow dock]

Hearing what you just said

I really dont think I want to

[mint arch]

whats the discussion on?

[tropic trail]

If you get killed by that big ass scary dude it makes sense, right? He looks like he eats nails for breakfast. If you get killed by some small little "noob" since noobs clearly play alliance you want to go back and kill them.

[hollow dock]

If that's your fantasy, have at it. Enjoy it beating alliance girls as a big burly man?...

[tropic trail]

It fuels your pvp spirit.

[mint arch]

i mean, human males are big burly men

[strange falcon]

getting killed by a gnome as a male tauren POGCHAMP

[mint arch]

draenei as well

[unkempt raptor]

No what fuels my pvp spirit is the spirit of the horde

[tropic trail]

See, this guy gets my point.

[hollow dock]

hey man you're wanting to be a women beater

Im already not into whatever it is you're saying

[unkempt raptor]

The horde is so charismatic

Especially their war shout

[tropic trail]

Also when someone says "for the alliance" it's just an awkward mess. When you say "for the horde" though.

[hollow dock]

Im also not a PVPer

[fossil rover]

we need a therapy scenario for sylvanas

[tropic trail]

figures

[hollow dock]

cuz PVPp is just garbage of a scenario

[mint arch]

for my faction haHAA

[unkempt raptor]

FOR THE HOORDE

[hollow dock]

I've told you this Rys

I dont like walking into a BG and not playing for 15 minutes because the enemy team has every CC imaginable

[unkempt raptor]

HORDE NEVER DIES

[tropic trail]

There's some type of satisfaction in killing small little wimps on the alliance compared to fighting a great beast of a Horde player.

[mint arch]

i mean, horde also has small little races

[hollow dock]

I mean hey

[tropic trail]

Well at least cc is being nerfed in BFA.

[hollow dock]

if you like to beat women as a big ol orc

enjoy

[tropic trail]

Well Void

Hear me out

[mint arch]

sup

[tropic trail]

Belves are small yes

I dont have a problem killing them

[hollow dock]

goblins. Undead.

[mint arch]

goblins

[hollow dock]

Troll women are just tall

[tropic trail]

but goblins, they're like gnomes but bad ass. Boom

[hollow dock]

not really beefy

like the only beefy ones are orcs and tauren

[mint arch]

^

[hollow dock]

everything else is tall and scrawny

[mint arch]

honestly alliance has more "Beefy"

draenei male, human male, dwarf male

[tropic trail]

Well continue hearing me out.

[hollow dock]

Every male except gnomes

are beefy

for alliance

LOL

[fossil rover]

not as much as tauren

[tropic trail]

Undeads are like normal humans, but they're bad ass so they can get the cut.

[mint arch]

both sides have pandas as well

[tropic trail]

and goblins dont need strength they use their brains, they're like that one crazy mexican.

[hollow dock]

Yea but its tauren and orcs for the beef cakes of the horde

Alright. Im not going to be listening to Rys anymore

[mint arch]

now alliance have fat kultirans

there's some beefy both sexes

[tropic trail]

yeah but horde pandas are bad ass. clearly shown by their leader while the alliance pandaren leader is a asshole who cant forgive and half the time she's meditating

[mint arch]

wait, are u talking which races are badass or beefy?

[tropic trail]

Both

[unkempt raptor]

Like Indian

[tropic trail]

I didnt say beefy anyways. i said big and scary

[mint arch]

well badass is subjective.... beefy we can all easily see the races

[tropic trail]

vris was using the term beefy

I can agree male draenei are big and scary to the right people

but comeon they hardly exist

[mint arch]

well, horde would be the side with more "big and scary" races i guess

[fossil rover]

lightforged does

[unkempt raptor]

THE SPIRIT OF THE HORDE IS UNBREAKABLE

[mint arch]

but then ya, depends on perspective

[tropic trail]

When you fight for the horde you feel proud and when you fight for the alliance, meh

[fossil rover]

where are you going with this?

[mint arch]

lol

[tropic trail]

Only proud thing about the alliance is Lordaeron

[unkempt raptor]

Our horde spirit is our determination

[tropic trail]

ever see anyone say "for gnomeregan"

[hollow dock]

Look man if the hordes like you

and they want to beat women

Im not into that

Glad you are

[tropic trail]

to be fair

half the women with slutmogs

[unkempt raptor]

I’m glad

[tropic trail]

are dudes

[hollow dock]

You're still projecting

[unkempt raptor]

GOT EM

[hollow dock]

onto their avatarr

which are women

[fossil rover]

you already said that

[unkempt raptor]

Avatar is an anime

[fossil rover]

get on with it

[tropic trail]

The men are just as weak as the girls

[hollow dock]

Im not moving past that because Im like 90% certain its against the servers rules.

[tropic trail]

they will crumble beneath the horde

[unkempt raptor]

To be fair I like both factions but the horde is just so charismatic

I love it to much

[hollow dock]

and that's great.

My issue isn't that

[unkempt raptor]

Yes it is

[hollow dock]

it's the women beating part on Rys's end

[unkempt raptor]

Oh

Wait what

[fossil rover]

i think hes just trying to make a point of the alliance players having puny and weak looking characters

[unkempt raptor]

Rys?

[tropic trail]

Exactly

That's my point

[hollow dock]

Rys's words exactly

[unkempt raptor]

Oh ryswell

[hollow dock]

were

he wants to

Be a big scary burly dude

[tropic trail]

yes

[hollow dock]

and beat up/kill scrawny

Slutty

alliance women

[unkempt raptor]

Rill yourself

[hollow dock]

and no one sees an issue on that

[fossil rover]

the slutty women was an example he means puny and weak alliance i think

[tropic trail]

it was

[hollow dock]

He didn't need to include slutty

or women

to make the point

is my point

[unkempt raptor]

Dude horde has belf sluts too wtf u talking about

[hollow dock]

that was my point as well Val

[fossil rover]

ever been to goldshire on ad?

[unkempt raptor]

No it’s my

[hollow dock]

he's apologizing for it when all he has to do is just say "Don't care, gonna lok'tar ogar over puny alliance"

[unkempt raptor]

Dude I’m litteraly in gs AD rn lol

[fossil rover]

lol

[unkempt raptor]

It’s the most retarded place

Ever

But pretty funny when you’re bored

[tropic trail]

My problem is that too many people play the pretty races and choose slutmogs instead of fem dwarves or fem orcs.

Sure they're not "as pretty and cute and lulz" but they deserve attention

[hollow dock]

and that's OK to have an issue with it.

but

to turn around and say

you want to kill them specifically because theyre slutty women

that is pretty bad

[unkempt raptor]

Dude wtf I see so many female orcs

[fossil rover]

i rarely see any orcs at all lol

[hollow dock]

In which again, on the alliance side

at least you see more than 3 races

[unkempt raptor]

Depends what server

[hollow dock]

On my server it's a somewhat tie on Draenei, Night Elves, humans, and Dwarves.

the next under that is gnomes

[tropic trail]

Thats another one of my problems vris

[fossil rover]

human nelf lf and velf is what i normally see from ally

[hollow dock]

that's still more than 3 races :p

for horde, on my servers, I see mostly Blood elves and trolls

the occasional tauren

[unkempt raptor]

Dude here I see Tauren belf troll orc

[fossil rover]

belv trolls and nightborne on top of my head

[tropic trail]

well horde I see multiple races while on ally I mostly just see humans and elves.

occasionally there will be dwarves and draenei but that's rare

[hollow dock]

and that's neat. On my server trio, even though horde is dominate in player size, it's still very homogenized

[tropic trail]

I see a lot of tauren and orcs aswell

hell I see a real lot of tauren

[hollow dock]

We're a bunch of raiders so that might also be a reason for it

min-maxing and what not

[fossil rover]

i only ever see 1 tauren and thats my guildie

[strange falcon]

taurens are common

[fossil rover]

well hes highmountain tauren

[strange falcon]

it's female dwarves

that are the hardest

to find

[tropic trail]

I play a female dwarf

shammy

[unkempt raptor]

And mage orcs

[hollow dock]

I've seen like 15 in the past two months over on my servers.

[tropic trail]

im tired of seeing slutty draenei shamans in my class hall it pisses me off so damn much

[hollow dock]

Mage orcs are useless

[tropic trail]

definitely with their goggles

[fossil rover]

orcs can be mages? lol

[unkempt raptor]

Yea

Yea its shit

[strange falcon]

prepare for PRIEST ORCS

[hollow dock]

You'll see them on the horde side as well Rys

[still lily]

PRIEST ORC

[hollow dock]

you going horde doesn't do anything but change their nameplate from green

to orange

LOL

[tropic trail]

Holy shit

a lot of servers are high or full right now

[still lily]

Yeah

It's insane

[fossil rover]

not mine

[still lily]

I put my stuff on the AH and am gonna sit back and wait for a bit

for the daily reset

[hollow dock]

Most PVPers that I watch that are horde end up being belves and are slutmogged out. or they just dont care.

[tropic trail]

I hate the belf slutmogs

[strange falcon]

belf racial getting a nerf in bfa pogchamp

[tropic trail]

but then again atleast the males are slutty too

[still lily]

Draenei slutmogs are top tier

[fossil rover]

why

[still lily]

o3o

[hollow dock]

All races males are slutty rys

that doesnt' change from one side to the other

[tropic trail]

draenei girls and draenei guys

lol

[still lily]

Draenei girls are best o3o

[tropic trail]

die

[unkempt raptor]

Males can be sluts ?

[still lily]

why

[hollow dock]

Theyre second best.

[still lily]

Yes

Males can be sluts

wow

[hollow dock]

andhell yea they can

[unkempt raptor]

How

[hollow dock]

ever been to

a gay bar

?

[still lily]

Who would've thought a male could be promiscuous

Wow

[unkempt raptor]

No but I like the song

Electric six

[still lily]

Who would've thought a male could be very sexually active or have low standards

Wow

[unkempt raptor]

What

[tropic trail]

Another bonus for Horde is that we get a cool ass mount in the prepatch and ally gets a

[still lily]

That's what a slut is o3o

[tropic trail]

hippogryph

[unkempt raptor]

No i meant like wearing sexy armor

Like female

[fossil rover]

why are we talking about slutmogs in bfa beta thread?

[still lily]

OH WAIT THIS IS BFA BETA

[hollow dock]

I mean you get a reused old mount that I already have better versions of

[still lily]

OOPS

[hollow dock]

while we get a fully armored Hippogryph

[still lily]

#retail-wow everyone

[unkempt raptor]

Dude

Males aren’t sluts like female ok

[hollow dock]

yes they can be lol

[unkempt raptor]

It’s not the same since they don’t wear sexy tmogs

[tropic trail]

Vris

[hollow dock]

they can indeedy

[fossil rover]

have you seen the new nelf guards in bfa?

[unkempt raptor]

Yes but it’s rare

[still lily]

Ever seen a Belf slutmog?

sexy af

[tropic trail]

Alliance males aren't as slutty as their female counterparts. Fortunately for Horde, the males are.

[still lily]

and very common

Male Belf Slutmogs

[unkempt raptor]

And it’s not epic fighter tmog

[tropic trail]

cough blood elves

[still lily]

Very sexy and very common

[hollow dock]

and orcs are pretty damn slutty in those mogs

big ol' bears they are

[still lily]

yee

[unkempt raptor]

Yeah belf okay but that because they’re feminine

[still lily]

And orcs too

@drifting current loves orc slutmogs

[unkempt raptor]

Ok maybe male sluts

[hollow dock]

I see Val is pretty ignorant of the gay culture :p Musculature men are very much the ideal thing for em. And boi. they're beautiful.

[unkempt raptor]

But when I say a slut randomly to someone he’s gonna think of a female

[tropic trail]

Horde just seems more spirited to me, more badass and wholesome. and Alliance just feels like "omg look at my new pony mount xd"

[hollow dock]

Yea. But that doesn't mean men can't be sluts

and that's fine to think Rys

just no women beating

OK?

ok.

[tropic trail]

its a video game

[hollow dock]

that doesn't excuse women beating

[tropic trail]

its not promoting violence irl

so its fine

[unkempt raptor]

Dude yris ofc I am ignorant of gay stuff

[still lily]

It's promoting violence to Alliance doggos

[viscid bobcat]

A man doesn't have to be gay to be slutty too ZZZ at this convo

[unkempt raptor]

I never did gay stuff

[still lily]

And Alliance doggos are fine ;-;

[unkempt raptor]

I’m not gay

[still lily]

all doggos are fine ;-;

[unkempt raptor]

Doggy ?

[hollow dock]

yea now Rys wants to kill doggos

[still lily]

;-;

[drifting current]

WHO PINGED

[hollow dock]

Deffos staying away from horde if that's what you all are about

[still lily]

POGAYTO I PINGED

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MALE SLUTMGOS

AND ORC SLUTMOGS

[fossil rover]

we arent

[drifting current]

Never been there

[still lily]

o

[hollow dock]

we were

[still lily]

Figured you liked Orc slutmogs tho

[drifting current]

No

[unkempt raptor]

No

[tropic trail]

Well Vris, what I'm trying to say is that I dislike a certain group of people and those "people" normally play alliance. Specifically female Night Elves, female Void elves, female and male blood elves, female and male humans. Even though there's a lot of females on this, there's a lot of guys that play female races too so yeah.

[drifting current]

I play a male

[tropic trail]

Fortunately, for me, I can choose a faction.

[ruby star]

[tropic trail]

and horde just has less of these "people" even though belves exist

[unkempt raptor]

I play warrior

!

[fossil rover]

that really depends on the server

[drifting current]

👉🏻 👉🏻

[hollow dock]

I mean. Again.

Most of the horde is male

and they play female belf

your point is pretty moot

[tropic trail]

Actually I see a lot of chicks play Horde

[hollow dock]

Again, you can just say you don't like the alliance

:p

and move over

[tropic trail]

its just the annoying chicks that play ally

[hollow dock]

rather than try to argue out a point that's an issue on both sides.

[still lily]

The most popular race is Belf Rys o3o

[unkempt raptor]

This argument is getting old

[hollow dock]

it is

[tropic trail]

It's tied IMO between humans and belf

[hollow dock]

its not

[tropic trail]

also alliance has belfs basically

[fossil rover]

my only high lvl belf is male

[tropic trail]

so yeah

[viscid bobcat]

It's just misogyny

[hollow dock]

Belves are like 23~%

[viscid bobcat]

ZZZ

[hollow dock]

humans are like 18%

that's pretty heavy in favor of belves.

[tropic trail]

it keeps swapping back and forth though

[still lily]

Belves have a very distinct number advantage

[hollow dock]

^

[drifting current]

We do

[still lily]

No it hasn't swapped since Legion

Honestly it hasn't swapped since WoD either

[tropic trail]

Apparently darkspear is "high" and I dont see anyone in orgrimmar.

[hollow dock]

again if you enjoy horde more tahn alliance

[tropic trail]

or stormwind

[ruby star]

Hopefully the BE racial nerf helps

[hollow dock]

it's fine.

[fossil rover]

im darkspear

[hollow dock]

I'm happy that you can enjoy one side more than the other

You dont need to shove all the reasons out there.

esp the women beating

[tropic trail]

its a game

[hollow dock]

just go and enjoy it

[fossil rover]

most horde druids are darkspear

[still lily]

Horde druids are RAD

Tauren hype

o3o

[tropic trail]

If I enjoy beating up little night elves on my massive orc warrior then that's my thing. For the Horde!

[unkempt raptor]

Dude the woman beating isn’t a big deal it’s wow it’s not like an irl situation

[hollow dock]

Just

don't spread that

like other people I know

[fossil rover]

why dont you beat up sylvanas shes got slutmog too

[tropic trail]

Yeah but she's evil

so she's aight

she's not some little nelf hunter that wants to collects pets.

[zealous basalt]

....good morning ladies and gentlemen

[viscid bobcat]

Nice beta discussion

[zealous basalt]

I have read this discussion since they banned the other people

[strange falcon]

nice REEEE icon

[hollow dock]

theres nothing to discuss that we already have discussed Meesh

[zealous basalt]

And I have a few words for you, Rys

[unkempt raptor]

Go rys

[viscid bobcat]

So you flood it with irrelevant convos nothing to do with beta

Hm

[hollow dock]

Yea

[tropic trail]

I tried bringing up something but the guy had to go to sleep

[hollow dock]

that's what you do.

[viscid bobcat]

There's other channels

[zealous basalt]

1st: All factions have slutmogs depending on the people's mindset

[hollow dock]

when you are finished on the other convo

[viscid bobcat]

Not dealing with beta

[still lily]

I'm really hyped for the snek people

[viscid bobcat]

Same

[hollow dock]

same

[zealous basalt]

2nd: This has been off topic since 1:00am

[unkempt raptor]

Sneaky snek

[still lily]

And also I'm mostly hyped for the possibility of more good dungeon content

[fossil rover]

im not

[hollow dock]

Gimme dim Snitties

[fossil rover]

dosnt seem that warcraftish to me

[hollow dock]

Warcraft is almost entirely based off D&D

and it's got flying angel elves

[zealous basalt]

3rd: I think you are compensating for something due tou wanting big muscles

[hollow dock]

it's pretty in there

[unkempt raptor]

Warcraft is like animals but humanoids

[fossil rover]

i dont mean them being snake people i mean how they look

[tropic trail]

Well I have something to say about the third thing

[zealous basalt]

Orcs can be the most muscular race of warcraft, yes

[fossil rover]

dosnt seem to fit that well with rest of wow

[tropic trail]

As I said, I just have directed hate towards people like this

[unkempt raptor]

No because that just default orc appearance in the game wow

[tropic trail]

Also I agree with sim

[zealous basalt]

But that makes them so vulnerable

Have seem the warcraft movie when they use the guns? That big body can be a disadvantage against a small but fast enemy

[tropic trail]

true

[unkempt raptor]

Yeah yeah we get it anything has disadvantages nothing new

[tropic trail]

Alliance just seems "childish" even though I can say Im the one acting pretty immature right now. Maybe that's why Im alliance though, eh?

[hollow dock]

I mean

then you'll be horde

and be as childish

so horde becomes more childish than alliance

🤔

[zealous basalt]

Now, if you want to be an orc, you do you, but dont disregards the other faction

[ruby star]

You can't exactly call Alliance Childish

[unkempt raptor]

Wait so one person makes an entire faction childish ? Nice thinking

[hollow dock]

the alliance loses its childish player

the horde gains that player

do you not know how that works

[fossil rover]

il rather they kept him

[unkempt raptor]

Dude

He’s not the only one

Childish

[hollow dock]

I never said he was

[unkempt raptor]

Except he said

Alliance is more childish

[fossil rover]

alliance gets a little less childish and the horde a little more

[unkempt raptor]

From the start

[hollow dock]

He didn't

[viscid bobcat]

lmfao guess Im ignoring this chat for several hours until we talk about the beta

[hollow dock]

He said the alliance seems more childish

[fossil rover]

good idea

[hollow dock]

but he admits how immature he's currently being

[unkempt raptor]

Yeah

[tropic trail]

wait until people wake up, will be soon.

[unkempt raptor]

Yeah so he’s part of child’s

[tropic trail]

It's still early

[hollow dock]

Yea

[unkempt raptor]

But if he joins horde

[hollow dock]

and he joins the horde

[zealous basalt]

I say let's close this topic and move on

[hollow dock]

and is still a childish person

because his views dont change

from alliance to horde

[unkempt raptor]

There will be a beginning of childs in horde

[hollow dock]

Horde has always been more childish from my POV ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unkempt raptor]

But not enough to beat the alliance child pop

[still lily]

can confirm, am childish Horde player

[hollow dock]

I never said they would

[unkempt raptor]

BUT YEAH ANYWAY IT ALWAYS ENDS UP ON POV SO

[ruby star]

It's pretty ignorant of you to assume thr alliance has a massive child population

[still lily]

Am hyped for Highmountain

[hollow dock]

Theyre horde Drorith

[fossil rover]

i wish warfronts were between 5v5 and 1v1

[hollow dock]

they're pretty ignorant from just being that

[unkempt raptor]

Dude it’s pov by now

[zealous basalt]

Warfronts are 20v20 pvp or pve

[hollow dock]

they are not PVP, Makore

[fossil rover]

thats why im saying i wish they were 5v5 to 1v1

[hollow dock]

they are fully PVE

[tropic trail]

Thing is though, I play on a LOT of servers and so far most of those servers as alliance has been a nightmare of immature people. Horde, however, has been less annoying.

[rich garnet]

They are purely PvE, aye.

[tropic trail]

I play 6 servers

pretty active servers

[hollow dock]

which side do you play more Rys?

alliance orhorde

[zealous basalt]

Have you ever gone to Ragnaros?

[tropic trail]

Both

[hollow dock]

I didn't ask for play

I asked for which one

[ruby star]

Just because someone could be immature doesn't make them a child

[hollow dock]

do you play more of

[tropic trail]

I dont play more of any

[hollow dock]

so you play equal sides

equal amounts of time on both sides

[fossil rover]

so you dont have a main?

[unkempt raptor]

Technically i followed the POV of rys that’s why I had a confrontation with Vris but my POV is not like rys

[tropic trail]

I didn't call them a child I just said they act childish

like a child

Yeah thats about right

[hollow dock]

and Im very happy to have actually found a less violent horde player

[unkempt raptor]

Where

[hollow dock]

you.

You're less violent than Rys

[unkempt raptor]

Oh

[hollow dock]

Rys is the average I've run into

[unkempt raptor]

I guess

[tropic trail]

means I'll fit in the horde

great

[zealous basalt]

I dont understand you, man

[fossil rover]

i have never met someone like rys on horde

[unkempt raptor]

No because we’re not all the same rys

[zealous basalt]

I simply dont

[hollow dock]

You're a very lucky person Sim

[still lily]

I play Horde o3o

[zealous basalt]

First he says good stuff about horde and now this

[hollow dock]

all the horde players I've met are douches. most joke about beatin people for fun.

[zealous basalt]

I know people on horde that are great people

[hollow dock]

except for Val

he's cool.

[still lily]

;-;

Is ignored

[tropic trail]

The game is about beating up people though... for fun.

[unkempt raptor]

Thanks

[fossil rover]

horde is pretty cool on steamwheedle

[hollow dock]

and I guess Gamma is too

not in game Rys

[unkempt raptor]

U too vris

[hollow dock]

in real life

[tropic trail]

I dont talk about beating people up in real life

[hollow dock]

they spread that shitinto real life and it's been a real turn off

[drifting current]

is also ignored

[tropic trail]

Oh well

I dont know anyone like that

[hollow dock]

Like I've said multiple times to try and end this whole discussion:

[tropic trail]

Violent players (irl) probably just play horde because it's rumored to be more mature.

[hollow dock]

I'm very happy you found a place to enjoy the game and enjoy your playstyle

[unkempt raptor]

Well once I came on alliance and I asked for a heal and I got insulted so yeah it always depends

[hollow dock]

just be very careful with your words because if you dont include context

A lot of people here will not let it slide

[unkempt raptor]

We can find douches everywhere

[mint arch]

^

lol

both sides have both same ppl

and different ppl

there is no blueprint for a horde or alliance player

-_-

[unkempt raptor]

I know

[zealous basalt]

And you cant say which faction sucks due its player community in a game where the players dont have a word to choose in the lore

[mint arch]

both sides have kids, both have douches, both have brutes, both have kind, so on and so on

[still lily]

Honestly I'm really hyped to see more of the Kul'Tiras and Zandalar Geography

o3o

[tropic trail]

Yeah but my point is that Horde (as far as I know) has less.

[still lily]

Cause Blizz makes good worlds

[zealous basalt]

Me wants to rp in boralus

[unkempt raptor]

Just like irl Voidox

[still lily]

And am a fan of exploration

[fossil rover]

im sort of confused as to why zandalar isnt underwater

[mint arch]

right, well unless uve me the ENTIRE horde and alliance players @tropic trail

[hollow dock]

Alright so to better explain it Sim

[mint arch]

thats just u

so other ppl will have different opinions

[hollow dock]

when we last left off for Zandalari right was in cataclysm

[mint arch]

lets move on

xD

[hollow dock]

and half the island was sinking

the swamp

is that part

[zealous basalt]

Vris is explaining

[still lily]

Oh cool

[mint arch]

take notes!

[hollow dock]

but it stopped sinking.

[still lily]

That's rad

[ruby star]

Well you'll never find out which faction has more kids ot adults

[zealous basalt]

Saved by the bell

[fossil rover]

okay cool

[ruby star]

Blizzard won't release that information

[tropic trail]

True

[mint arch]

vris is wow lore expert~

[hollow dock]

Im no expert

I get plenty wrong

[tropic trail]

Im just talking about my experience, Drorith

[mint arch]

yes u are, quiet down

:3

[zealous basalt]

Oof

Did we ship

[still lily]

I hope they add the planned shattrath raid from WoD

tbh

[hollow dock]

they won't sadly. =/

[still lily]

Since we have some focus on AU again

[unkempt raptor]

Rip Maraad

[still lily]

Awww

[mint arch]

they wont

[hollow dock]

Most of its supposed assets were in Siege of Lordaeron

[mint arch]

the AU focus is just tiny

for one allied race

start quest

[hollow dock]

with the Soul Priests and the Auchindoun Catapults

[still lily]

Technically two allied races

But not really

Lightforged TECHNICALLY

[mint arch]

i doubt they do more with AU this xpac

[still lily]

But not really

[tropic trail]

Since this expansion is adding new races, and last added a new class, what's expected to be added for next expansion?

[mint arch]

but i can easily see the light enemy blizzard so badly want to be the AU side, and an expansion involving that

[zealous basalt]

New stuff

[still lily]

Dragonkin class

tbh

[hollow dock]

I dont think they'll add anything more

[ruby star]

Bard?

[zealous basalt]

Class or race?

[hollow dock]

than maybe some more

allied races

[mint arch]

ENGINEER CLASS PLS

[fossil rover]

wod didnt have any

[tropic trail]

There's one unique class that hasn't been touched yet. Tinker.

[ruby star]

Yeah more allied races will defo come in 9.0+

[zealous basalt]

A new engine lol

[marble trout]

Bard class pls

[mint arch]

ya

tinker or engineer

[tropic trail]

Voidox get's it

[still lily]

Honestly I'd take an xpac with just lots of dungeon, questing, scenarios, and raid content

[ruby star]

They want to carry the system on

[hollow dock]

They'd have to rip apart Engineering

[still lily]

Like purely that

[hollow dock]

to do so

[tropic trail]

Im thinking tinker get's a tank spec, like a robotic suit.

[mint arch]

not really

[viscid bobcat]

Is be down if they just added specs to current classes. Bard and engineer can be rogue.

[hollow dock]

With Legion engineering

yuh they would

[unkempt raptor]

Btw how are they gonna bring new stuff in wow classic since they can’t make expansions

[ruby star]

Bard would be awesome

[hollow dock]

they aren't val

[marble trout]

yes

[hollow dock]

WoW classic is just that

Classic WoW

[unkempt raptor]

Oh

[zealous basalt]

Like

[unkempt raptor]

So like

[zealous basalt]

The purest experience of patch 11

[mint arch]

tinker class can be about building turrets and shit as "pets"

[hollow dock]

There's rumor that -maybe- all the updated textures are being placed into it

[fossil rover]

unless they decide to add a bc server or something

[tropic trail]

Why classic wow but not MOP WOW or BC WoW?

[hollow dock]

but nothing is confirmed

[zealous basalt]

Then it's not classic anymore

[unkempt raptor]

Once u did all the pve it’s pvp

[hollow dock]

because that's what people wanted Rys

[still lily]

Cause people have nostalgia goggles Rys

o3o

[hollow dock]

Vanilla WoW. the classic era of the game

[mint arch]

classic

[hollow dock]

and that's it

[still lily]

But uh #classic-wow

[zealous basalt]

But also

They want updated studd

[mint arch]

cant wait for 90% of ppl to quit classic once it launches

xD

[hollow dock]

I can't wait for them to leave

[tropic trail]

I had horrible experiences in classic

it was so bad

[hollow dock]

realize Vanilla was absolute fucking trash

[mint arch]

^

[zealous basalt]

Because they know classic sucked ass and was really rude

[mint arch]

^

it was trash

[hollow dock]

then come back

[zealous basalt]

And cry

[tropic trail]

but then again atleast you had to explore and get involved with the community... and it was actually hard.

[zealous basalt]

"Oml blizzard made us waste our money"

[mint arch]

if u want a game with more spells, go play a proper RPG which won't have the grind shit

[unkempt raptor]

So that means once u get max gear in classic u can just do pvp and os people

[hollow dock]

it wasn't actually hard Rys

you had a lot less information to work with

[mint arch]

it wasnt hard

[tropic trail]

harder than now

[mint arch]

it was a GRIND

das all it was

a grind

[hollow dock]

ONLY because of its information lacking

that's it.

[mint arch]

and info lacking, ya

[zealous basalt]

It was time consuming

[hollow dock]

If you want to 'experience' Vanilla

go play a korean MMO

it's at the same difficulty curve

[zealous basalt]

To experience vanilla

[still lily]

Mabinogi

[tropic trail]

At least legion made an attempt for players to get more involved with the community.

[mint arch]

the current raid COMPLETELY dwarf classic shit in terms of difficulty

[still lily]

Literally Vanilla WoW

[tropic trail]

Never will be like vanilla though.

[still lily]

Literally just play Mabinogi

[zealous basalt]

We had to delete all our wow info

And play like if we were fresh

[fossil rover]

well you couldnt fight as many npcs in classic as you can now

[hollow dock]

^@Void

[still lily]

Even then Mabinogi is still better than Vanilla

o3o

[hollow dock]

Classic WoW is an absolute snorefeast

[tropic trail]

the current raid is so easy on normal though

[still lily]

I love Mabinogi but that's irrelevant

ALL RAIDS ARE EASY ON NORMAL

[hollow dock]

they are

but compare like

[fossil rover]

#classic-wow

[still lily]

THAT'S WHY IT'S NORMAL

[hollow dock]

Mythic Ghoulish Daniel

to ragnaros

[tropic trail]

okay but at least you had to use all your abilities, get food, and what not back then.

[mint arch]

#shitonclassictime

=D

[fossil breach]

MC wasnt easy on release 😉

[hollow dock]

You do today Rys

[strange falcon]

the hardest mechanic in vanilla was like "go stand in a corner and dont die"

[hollow dock]

and if you don't

you're not on mythic

[unkempt raptor]

But then there will be people will max gear and that’s it they have the best armor in the game

[tropic trail]

Lol nope I see monks just spam the same abilities on mythic

[unkempt raptor]

And kill everyone

[mint arch]

even heroic u need food and buffs and spells

[hollow dock]

Then they are not playing monk right

because you -have- to rotate your abilities

to max DPS

[tropic trail]

well they dont

[zealous basalt]

Ye

[hollow dock]

Show me rys

[still lily]

Then you have bad monks

[hollow dock]

^

[mint arch]

^

[tropic trail]

what do you mean show?

[strange falcon]

^

[hollow dock]

because to keep combo stacks up

you HAVE to cycle

[still lily]

Also I'd like to add that in current classic Private servers the community is mega ass and everyone's an elitist*

[hollow dock]

Also Rys

[zealous basalt]

Thata the funny thing of monk

[hollow dock]

in vanilla

[fossil rover]

im just going to leave now

[hollow dock]

a mages most efficient way to DPS

was spam Frostbolt

and nothing else

[mint arch]

@fossil rover ;_;

[hollow dock]

or else you run out of mana

[tropic trail]

They had to cc

[hollow dock]

no they didn;t

[unkempt raptor]

Yeah if you have the hit combo especially

[zealous basalt]

Cc took a lot of mana

[hollow dock]

mages didn't have CC

[zealous basalt]

Well

[tropic trail]

lol what?

[still lily]

Mages had polymorph I think

Which is CC

[zealous basalt]

Honestly the mana regen was sucky

[tropic trail]

that's cc

[hollow dock]

they spammed frostbolt

[strange falcon]

the mana regen and hp regen was almost nonexistent

[hollow dock]

In which today they polymorph adds in raids.

so nothings changed other than you're using more than 1 spell

which is frostbolt

no matter yoru spec

you used frostbolt

[tropic trail]

ok but leveling was harder back then

[hollow dock]

cuz that was mana efficient

[tropic trail]

leveling now is easiest

[hollow dock]

No it wasn't

[still lily]

Yeah it was Tedious

Not hard

[hollow dock]

^

[viscid bobcat]

Frost hasn’t changed much lel

[still lily]

Hard =/= Tedious

[tropic trail]

yeah but its harder than now

[zealous basalt]

Leveling as warrior

[unkempt raptor]

It was long

[hollow dock]

No it isn't rys

[zealous basalt]

Was just spamming food

[hollow dock]

there is nothing difficult about leveling

[strange falcon]

leveling was """hard""" just because you did so hopelessly low dmg,and had to stop to eat every time