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meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 4:15 AM

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their choice was to fix it or leave it alone.
They left it alone.
Innovation is thus

rich apex Feb 16, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Belated but...isn't an RNG drop luck?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 4:23 AM

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RNG =/= luck.
RNG is entirely based on numbers and percentages.

rich apex Feb 16, 2018, 4:23 AM

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...what else are drops based on

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 4:23 AM

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...RNG?

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that's it

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:30 AM

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@olive mirage where did you hear that from

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rng is luck if you dont believe in luck

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if you know what that means

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like just might get it might not get it

olive mirage Feb 16, 2018, 4:31 AM

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http://puu.sh/zoNaC/7af090ebf2.png

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:31 AM

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but its just luck in numbers

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yes

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yes

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awesome

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article link?

inner aurora Feb 16, 2018, 4:38 AM

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😅 Nice! We're getting meow.

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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meow

inner aurora Feb 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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I shouldn't be grumpy, but why not "howl"? With worgens and all...

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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is /woof a thing

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or /bark

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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because saberen aren't an allied race yet

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:39 AM

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yes

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bark is a think

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thing

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**

inner aurora Feb 16, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Handshakes would be awesome! Or hugs. Or some other kind of interaction requiring approval of another person.

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:41 AM

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hug is a thing

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im pretty sure

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

inner aurora Feb 16, 2018, 4:41 AM

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it just says someone hugs you.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 4:41 AM

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/hug is definitely a thing.
i've hugged so many critter corpses

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 4:45 AM

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im sure /hug exists cause of the achievement "make love not warcraft"

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Why would we want meow

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Do we get /bark at least?

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 5:07 AM

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khajit has meows if you have coin

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:07 AM

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khajit has wares if you have coin

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Khajit is a dead meme

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:08 AM

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ur a ded meme

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 5:08 AM

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khajit has memes if you have coin

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:08 AM

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hands coin

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LOL

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Edgy, what wares do you have?

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Do you have spoilers for bfa?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:10 AM

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I have an old discord channel with quotes and memories from a time that i sincerely miss.
Also, possibly depression, and definitely anxiety

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Sounds sad

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:11 AM

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and, i have depressing knowledge

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Do you read your books in your Lamborghini?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:12 AM

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?

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:12 AM

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You know... Tai Lopez and his Knowledge meme

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Its very old

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:12 AM

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@ruby prawn i said before we have /bark already

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:12 AM

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not heard of it until now.

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:12 AM

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thats why were getting meow

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to make it even

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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I dindnt read past messages

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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lol

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edgy if you havent heard of it you still have a chance at a happy life

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Since when do we have bark?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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no, i don't

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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since classic

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Wow

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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"happy is a kick in the balls waiting to happen."

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:13 AM

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ok

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:14 AM

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When is /meow coming?

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 5:14 AM

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bfa

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 5:14 AM

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You are truly edgy

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:14 AM

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obviously

tropic trail Feb 16, 2018, 6:51 AM

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yes, I will finally be able to meow at my enemies come battle for azeroth! all shall know of the mighty human warlock greenegg, the meower.

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:00 AM

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I knew a guy in basic school who was actually mewing sometimes, we called him Cat

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but hes pretty normal now

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he grew out of his awkwardness

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:12 AM

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i knew a guy in my school who was autistic and every time someone said shutup he would jump down on all fours and go rrreeowww angrily then jump up and down on all fours a couple times until someone calmed him down

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:13 AM

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wow, thats kind of different level

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:14 AM

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nah thats like the same level as your

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s

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thats why i shared it

elder otter Feb 16, 2018, 8:14 AM

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MaXi's level: 30 | Woven's level: 100

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:15 AM

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well, our guy was just wierd, he was doing that on purpose, well, not sure, but he was that type of guy who was a little bit dumb, wierd and trying too hard to be cool

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Thats why he is normal now

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you cant really grow up from being autistic can you?

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:15 AM

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yeah i saw him a while ago in the store and chatted him up

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he was really nice

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very mature

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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hmmm, interesting

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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then

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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didnt know that

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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a mother walked by with her kids

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and the kid said why does that guy look weird

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and the mother said shut up

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and he did it again

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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lol 😄

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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had to calm him down

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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so you cant

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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yeah

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 9:55 AM

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So I have a theory about Saurfang, Sylvanas, and Anduin

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https://gyazo.com/db7e037146f75ca8710a3183c4d681fa

Gyazo

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 10:00 AM

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what is it

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 10:01 AM

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The betrayal Varimathras is talking about could be Saurfang

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 10:07 AM

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I don't think Saurfang is kind of guy who would try to discuss peace or something and then betray them

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he is honorable orc

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Saurfang won't betray

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He can't betray them if he isn't friends with them

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 10:08 AM

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thats the point, some datamines suggest some conversation between Saurfang and Anduin I think

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thats why he mentions Saurfang

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 10:09 AM

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There is conversation between them. We have seen it in the placeholder for when Anduin captures Saurfang

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But we don't know the text yet

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 10:09 AM

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yes, thats why its called theory

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 10:10 AM

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I don't think they have much of a discussion

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 10:10 AM

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me too

ruby prawn Feb 16, 2018, 10:11 AM

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Saurfang will probably just say he is wounded

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Anduin heals and tells his guards to escort him

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 10:14 AM

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could be, we will see 😃

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there are also some suspicious information about datamines... Christie Golden said on Twitter than recent datamined information can be inaccurate

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so its needed to take that with a grain of salt

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I mean those datamines

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broadcast text etc

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 11:12 AM

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But he never actually mentions saurfang. Just that our throne will run red with blood and that can really mean any throne within the alliance.

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Vris, do you know how theories work?

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You speculate on connections that might or might not be true.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Yes but Maxi had said that Vari mentioned saurfang.

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Oh, thought you were referring to me, my bad.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

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its alright to speculate, just dont base speculations on a speculation. :p

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 11:22 AM

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@hollow dock no I didnt, you didnt understand who I was referring to

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 11:23 AM

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what'd ya mean then?

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 11:24 AM

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well, that's pretty obvious, the only one who mentioned Saurfang in that context was @uncut vault

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 11:25 AM

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Ah ok. Yea I did misread that.

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 11:25 AM

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nevermind 😃

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 12:01 PM

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https://gfycat.com/DisguisedWarpedHairstreak

Gfycat

silverhustle

Warcraft III chicken, you will be missed

▶ Play video

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end of an era

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Thank god

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:15 PM

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ye those rectangular creatures were pain to look at 😄

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can you please find comparison of prarie dog? 😄

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just so we can laugh a bit 😄

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I heard awesome description from Hazel on youtube... old Prarie dog model is as rectangular as it can be while still be able to call it an animal 😄 😄 😄

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 12:17 PM

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https://i.redd.it/hphoxdrr5ec01.png

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:18 PM

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ah ye 😄 thanks 😄

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 12:27 PM

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"Sylvanas wants peace and prosperity for the Alliance as well as the Horde."

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BAHAHAHAHAAHAH

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oh man

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keep it coming sylvanas kids, keeeeeep itttt comingggg

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dat new chicken is grooving out btw~

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:34 PM

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I dont know what her motives are, but to be honest, separating ali and horde by ocean would really result in that, or at least make it easier...

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still looking forward to know more about it

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any info when they will continue Silithus story?

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 12:36 PM

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dont think we gonna get much or anything till pre-patch

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Im pretty sure we will, we still need some pre-battleground story

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at least

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 12:36 PM

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hmm, maybe

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:37 PM

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prepatch should be something like silithus story finale

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 12:37 PM

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isnt battleground coming in pre-patch?

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or is it sooner?

cinder knoll Feb 16, 2018, 12:37 PM

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but there is still long way from now to burning of Teldrasil

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it was supposed to be 7.3.5

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prepatch will be 8.0

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so I guess it should be sooner

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Well 7.3.5 isn't over. They simply said it'd come with the silithus stuff in 735. Unless Im remembering wrong.

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Just to be clear, from the data mining, sylvanas actually does want peace for the horde. There’s a very clear conversation where she says she wants peace, but as long as the alliance remains on Kalimdor, she has no option but war

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:00 PM

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imp, 7.3.5 is on a slow rollout. The 7th’ll be the next phase.

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And don’t take the datamined stuff revolving Teldrassil as fact.

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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No, I specifically said, from what we know

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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😭

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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It could obviously change, but we have to base it off what we have

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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i am gonna miss the old textures

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Im not

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theyre hideous

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Why? Some of them are as old as Warcraft 3

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I’m glad the thunder lizard is getting updated. It literally is from Warcraft 3

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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I just hope they update the Ungoro dinos

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Oh, you mean with the new Dino models? Me too

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Sorta.

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Dimorphodons, and Pterrodax updates would be the big ones

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I just want an HD touch up to the current ones. Show variancebetween them, Pandaria and Zandalar

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I mean, they redid all of the colors

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Just use different colored ones

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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old wolf

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old bear

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biggest

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change

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they are the og shitty texture

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Yeeeee. Now update the old worgs

merry briar Feb 16, 2018, 1:05 PM

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yessss

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mistsaber too

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or just sabers

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hawkstriders

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GORILLAs

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ok im going to bed bye

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Why stop there? UPDATE OWLS DAMN IT

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Still wanting them to bring back the Dawnsaber mount.

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 1:06 PM

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"where she says she wants peace, but as long as the alliance remains on Kalimdor, she has no option but war"

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lul

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:07 PM

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that info is false, because Sylvanas wants to keep Lordaeron.

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People take the datamined Teldrassil text seriously for some reason, when it’s all filled with heavy mischaractrization and memes.

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 1:08 PM

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characterisation? in wow?

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ecks deeee

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:08 PM

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“The void elves. . . their numbers are endless!” Is a meme regarding the sheer number of Velf players.

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Lorewise they’re very few.

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 1:08 PM

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lorewise they can be anything blizzard wants them to be though

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so who knows :/

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Also Sylvanas would never threaten Saurfang let alone survive mentioning his dead son the way she did.

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Most of that datamined text will end up being fake

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Before the Storm even says Sylvanas fears him

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Is there a definitive kul tiran logo?

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Like a modern kul tiran logo blizzard is working with (like on flags/armor)

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I need it for a reference for a drawing

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I am guessing this is good https://i.imgur.com/JbLSIfg.png

Imgur

strong python Feb 16, 2018, 1:19 PM

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I really hope you're right, @terse patrol because I hated her reaction in the datamined text

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:19 PM

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But i've seen a different style of the same logo on different armor

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Sometimes Honk, I think the writers just write this stuff in highschool fanfic mode, slap it onto the alpha and then leave it there for a bit and swap it out for the real script right before launch.

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sometimes it works sometimes it doesn

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:36 PM

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And there is this logo https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/moon-guard/images/8/8f/Kul_Tiran_Ship.png/revision/latest?cb=20180130210929

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:37 PM

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I think the variations are supposed to represent the different noble families of Kul'tiras

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:37 PM

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But this flag is most used ^^ https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/4/45/Kul-tiras-flag.jpg/211px-Kul-tiras-flag.jpg?version=e35508c228736f89c0693e73d2b2e368

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:37 PM

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https://www.argentarchives.org/files/Kul-tiras-flag.jpg

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:37 PM

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lol @terse patrol

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Same mind

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:38 PM

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that doesn't invalidate what I said?

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:38 PM

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it doesn't

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But I've only seen 2 logos so far

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:38 PM

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we only know 2 families so far.

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 1:38 PM

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The original ^^ and the same logo but without the spikes

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Green and yellow are the colors of the Proudmoore Admiralty

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I assume blue and yellow are the Waycrest colors.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Sounds about right

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 1:41 PM

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never forget, drown yourself in a circle of stars 👀

terse patrol Feb 16, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Then there’s House Ashvane

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 2:58 PM

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@uncut vault I'd drown you.

uncut vault Feb 16, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Im flattered ❤

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 3:02 PM

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sum tsundere stuff going on right now

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xP

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 3:03 PM

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😏

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 3:41 PM

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WEEBS

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 4:04 PM

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AND PROUD

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Proud of being a weeb?

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Ew

strong python Feb 16, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Ew

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:15 PM

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i want to see saberen, murloc+troll/ elf hybrids (Not naga), ghost race(s), taunka tauren, sand trolls, half-orcs/ half-ogres, gelblins, leper gnome, Wildhammer Dwarf, ... pcs
worgen druids,
Customizable ships (With vendors, mailbox, inn, and bank)
Neutral Factions
An antagonist that isn't a flat villain.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:28 PM

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We have seen ghosts of the races. they look the exact same but in white

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:28 PM

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ye, but not really as playable races

tulip sun Feb 16, 2018, 5:31 PM

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I was hoping for a class order hall or garrison like system, but on a ship

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:41 PM

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Well clearly they wont be implementing anything else :v

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Also we had an antagonist that's not a flat villain: Wrathion.

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also, PCS worgen druids? wha?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:43 PM

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(races) playable characters

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:44 PM

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we already have worgen druids.

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wat

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:45 PM

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o, nvm.
i mean elf druids who can turn into worgen?

Like, the original worgen

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Those druids are feral worgen though. Like. I'm not sure if you read the comic that brings in the Worgen to Azeroth, but you can't control the worgen transformation and its considered taboo to even try.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:47 PM

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then how do the player character worgen control it? 🤔

true matrix Feb 16, 2018, 5:48 PM

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druidic magic iirc

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:48 PM

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Because the worgen curse that's transfered to them is tamed via ritual. It's not the same as transforming into the worgen through the scythe.

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Using the scythe they created three pools to bring the curse to heel to the wielder, but its far from actually under control.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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now i wanna be an elf worgen even more

true matrix Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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the original night elven worgen were imprisoned in the dream I think

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Your name fits that perfectly.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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ye

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Cuz in the RP community

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when worgen first came out, every blood elf for miles was a 'worgen'

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Worgen are edgy?

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Ah?

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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They rp'd as if they were afflicted by the curse and this was suddenly Teenwolf all over again.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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so, do worgen elves exist as playable characters or?

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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No

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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No because the only worgen are the Gilneans. All other feral worgen are either working for Gilneas or are dead/dreaming

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Feral worgen
Working for Gilneas
Wot

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Bloodpack

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The bloodpack worgen are a group of mostly feral worgen working under Ivan, their alpha

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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i thought that group was human worgen

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:52 PM

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The other worgen packs have been absorbed into the Bloodpack when the Forsaken started purging through Silverpine

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Not to mention elves turning into worgen look no different than humans turning into worgen. So giving the night elves a worgen subrace doesn't make much sense?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:55 PM

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they could just replace the worgen curse race with another race and make it either an option for elves/ human pcs to acquire or have it be on customization

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:56 PM

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they could. but then that'd invalidate about half of cataclysm and the entire questline to introduce Gilneas into the alliance and the whole starting area of the Gilneans. and what would all of that be replaced with?

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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All of that could be about the same.
When worgen humans are acquiring the curse, they could go through the worgen starter area.
Idk much about the other cata stuff having to do with worgen

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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well then theyre still the worgen race

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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yes, but they're not just worgen.
And if it were like that, the worgen curse could affect more than one race in terms of player characters

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 5:59 PM

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the worgen curse already can. but that invalidates the whole worgen player race.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:00 PM

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i'm not sure how

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:00 PM

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In which if you actually give players an option to avoid it, people will. Most people hate being forced into being a worgen 80% of the time anyways.

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OK arson. Let's say we give every race the same special racial ability.

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That no longer makes it special for that race and you have to ask the question, what's the reason to play that race.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:04 PM

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making the worgen race attainable by every other race doesn't invalidate it imo because if it were not an actual race then,

It wouldn't have racial abilities since it wouldn't be a race
Replacing the worgen race with another race wouldn't mess up the story because all the worgen npcs who matter would still be affected by the curse.

I'm also not sure where I said I wanted to see equal racial abilities in all races

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:05 PM

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You would because the WORGEN ARE A RACE ATM. You are removing an entire part of the game for a small customization change, WHICH IS A RACIAL ABILITY

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You handing everyone worgen form gives them one of the worgens special racial reason to actually play. Which is goingwolf.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:06 PM

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If the worgen RACE WERE REMOVED, it would no longer be a race.

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look at ESO

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:06 PM

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And what happens to all the current worgen players?

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Please STOP COMPARING WOW TO OTHER MMOS

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:06 PM

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they'd probably be about the same

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:07 PM

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So then the worgen race ISNT REMOVED

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:07 PM

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i'll stop comparing WoW to other mmos when it stops being an mmo

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:07 PM

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ESO has a different story, context, and engine than WoW.

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Just because its an MMO does not mean its equal in any way shape or form

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:08 PM

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The worgen race is just the human race with a few extra gimmicks minus the +10% xp boost and other stuff.
The worgen race would be renamed to "human" and get all the human racials if it were removed but the curse itself wouldn't be removed unless a ritual or whatever is done to remove the curse

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:09 PM

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humans dont have an xp boost.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:09 PM

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o, rep boost then

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Which again

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completely invalidates A PART OF THE GAME

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:09 PM

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you haven't really specified how

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:10 PM

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You are removing an entire starting zone and leaving a chunk of the story empty to give everyone the same two forms racial

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:10 PM

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"Oh, by that logic, all races would get the same racials" even though, if the worgen RACE were changed to worgen CURSE it would no longer HAVE racials!

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:11 PM

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EXCEPT THAT ITS A RACIAL SPELL THAT MAKES THE TRANSFORMATION HAPPEN

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SO YES IT WOULD BE A RACIAL ABILITY

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:11 PM

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smh

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:11 PM

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spells are delegated to 2 things in WoW.

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Class or Race

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It certainly wouldn't fall under class spells

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Worgen isn't a race except in terms of gameplay.
It's only called racials because it's a race in terms of gameplay.
It's a curse in lore and has pros and cons which support that.
But the human/ elf/ whatever side of them still has everything else in lore, but not in gameplay.
does that make sense?

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Yes it does. But you can't IGNORE ALL OF THAT when transitioning it into the game.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:14 PM

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and i'm ignoring what part of it exactly?

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:14 PM

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GAMEPLAY

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In which the worgen curse isn't curable. once you're afflicted, that's it. You're a worgen

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Gameplay changes considerably over almost every expac. As such, that's not really a reliable book to go by

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Yes however, with the exception of cataclysm, blizzard doesnt REMOVE sections of the game.

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Blizz does tho.
You just said it

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Cataclysm has been the ONLY time theyve done it

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and with massive backlash.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:18 PM

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why the HELL does wod content not scale like literally every single thing in game

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:18 PM

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In which, what was removed with cataclysm wasn't having to do with the races.

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Because Wod scales from 100-110.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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you arent getting my point vris

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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only time but doesn't that mean they could and likely will do it again?

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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if i go to nagrand as lvl 92

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the mobs

polar ruin Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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doesn’t WoD scale 90-100?

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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are still lvl 98

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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98 to 110 actually.

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Yea because

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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WoD scales 90-100.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Im not sure if you're aware Fire, every place doesnt scale below its intended entrance level

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not 90.

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Oh wait. WoD. Whoips

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:20 PM

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are you kidding me right now,i literally quested through silithus at level 20,quested in krasarang wilds at 83

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and now i cant quest anywhere i want

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wtf blizzard

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:20 PM

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That

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doesn't sound right

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Silithus was still a level 50 area when I went there.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i went to talador,mobs are still 94

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Talador is meant to be entered at that level

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i'm lvl 92

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Blizzard even says in their post nothing scales BELOW its intended level.

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It just scales UP to max level for that portion of the game

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:21 PM

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that doesnt seem to be the case

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:22 PM

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then you've somehow bugged the game

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:22 PM

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i literally quested in icecrown at level 60

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Oh yea

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that's fine

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because if you read the post, BC and WotLK are scaling at the same 60-80 bracket.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:22 PM

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and pandaria and cata are scaling 80-90

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IN ALL ZONES

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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81-90 for MoP and Cata areas and WoD hasn't been changed

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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even in legion,you can go in any area at lvl 101

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I did Legion at 98

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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wod is only one where blizz shit the bed

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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tf u talkin about

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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are you high vris,i dont think you're understanding what i'm saying

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:23 PM

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You can't go to suramar at 101

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Cuz its an intended 110 area

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:24 PM

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that's the only exception in the entire game excluding wod

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:24 PM

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No WoD is

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and always has worked that way

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they even said in the post they hadn't touched WoD

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:24 PM

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there's my answer,so level scaling isnt applied to wod

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fucking great

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Your fault for not reading the post

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:25 PM

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well,since they said level scaling in the world

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i expect everything to be level scaled in the correct bracket

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:25 PM

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In the old world and then posted all the affected areas

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:25 PM

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they said 90-100

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:25 PM

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which didn't include WoD 🤷

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Yes because as the post also said

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it doesn't scale BELOW the intended entrance area.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:26 PM

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like it was before level scaling

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:26 PM

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exactly.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:26 PM

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i expected it to level scale like every single other piece of content in the game(excluding suramar) and i got cucked

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Feralas is still a level 35ish area (I think its 35) if you're 20 and going into there

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As for Legion, it works like that because all four zones are intended to be your starting zone and ending zone.

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Hence why it never matters where you start or finish

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:28 PM

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i'm extremely salty wod doesnt level scale

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:28 PM

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it does scale up tho

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it just operates like everything else in the old world. not legion. cuz nothing in the old world scales up like legion.

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:28 PM

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i dont care it scales up,i'm trying to level here

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Then ya probably shoulda done a tad more research instead of just assuming

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:29 PM

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you'd lvl faster if you didn't stop to complain in here.
js

strange falcon Feb 16, 2018, 6:29 PM

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i'm not a tryhard i dont do research for something as trivial as leveling

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Then we wouldnt have Method Zero, level 110 in 6 hours of total gameplay. :v

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:30 PM

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leveling =/ level scaling

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Method Zero is no more

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with the recent hotifx

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:46 PM

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it just got hotfixed?

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Didn't you read about the changes to experience in dungeons? If there's a high-level character with you, you get little to no exp

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 6:48 PM

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You know, I missed that part

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 6:48 PM

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We got a pretty nice boost in exchange

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Exp jumped from 10K at ~60 to close to 40K

meager warren Feb 16, 2018, 6:49 PM

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epic

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 7:14 PM

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It was a bug

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I said it was a bug

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It didn’t exist prior to 7.3.5 (at least not to the same scale), and it didn’t exist on the ptr

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Beautiful bug

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Should've been a feature.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:21 PM

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If this was Bethesda this certainly would have been a feature

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 7:22 PM

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cause Bethesda would be too lazy to fix the bug

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xP

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Who?

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Bethesda. Gaming company behind Elder Scrolls and Fallout

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very notorious for having both franchises riddled with bugs in all of their games? Most of them hilarious.

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:22 PM

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lol

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Aren't both very popular games?

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Yup!

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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You'd wonder..

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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most people play them for the bugs. though they say its for the plot.

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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lol

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Cuz its hilarious to see random cows being flung into the air or horses go up 90 degree slopes

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 7:27 PM

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mod dat shit and u get thomas the train engines being flung around :D

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Oh god yea.

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The skyrim train replacement mod is terrifying. All the dragons get replaced with Tomas the Train Engine.

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music, sound effects, all of it

true matrix Feb 16, 2018, 7:28 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Bsa1p_NDw

YouTube

NebulousTube

Weird Flying Sabertooth Tiger SKYRIM Funny as hell

Please enjoy more videos at our main channel! https://www.youtube.com/NebulousTube

▶ Play video

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:29 PM

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The tigers people needed him

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 7:31 PM

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watch the dunkey skyrim video

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worth

polar mango Feb 16, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Just watch Dunkey videos.

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All of them. XD

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Maybe not all of them

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Kul Tiran, Vulpera, Tuskarr, Furbolg, Tounka, Jinyu, Night elf Worgen, Arakkoa, Val'kyr, Naga, Saytr, Eradar, Sethrak, Ogre, Vrykul should all be playable races

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 7:49 PM

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alllll of them :D

languid yoke Feb 16, 2018, 7:49 PM

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night elf worgen

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no

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I was watching some YT video that said they are from the emerald dream

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:50 PM

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That's where they were imprisoned

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Theyre just worgen. Theyre no different than the worgen we currently have

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what is your guys obsession with them?

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 7:51 PM

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furries

mint arch Feb 16, 2018, 7:52 PM

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furries

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I thought they were permanently Worgen with some differences

agile token Feb 16, 2018, 7:57 PM

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lol

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 8:07 PM

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They are.

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but their worgen forms are no different to our current gilnean ones

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Well the change can happen over time hopefully

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 8:22 PM

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its been what. 3-4 thousand years since War of the Saytr when they appeared. and all the feral worgen in Silverpine are escaped Worgen elves, so no. there is no difference. wolf people all look the same here in WoW.

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 8:27 PM

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Yep

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There hasn't been any, and there won't be

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 8:38 PM

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But, there could be

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Sure. Just like humans could suddenly return to their vrykul forms.

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Can it happen? Yes. Will it? Likely not.

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Night elven worgen cannot change forms.

jovial coral Feb 16, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Does that mean that night elven Worgen offspring will be Worgen

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 9:09 PM

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IIRC the Worgen curse is not passed on

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 9:10 PM

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But in the same time, Elven Worgen are perma enraged so they won't do much offsprings.

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 9:11 PM

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The curse is not passed on through offspring.

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Children (if any) would be of the parent race, uncursed.

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Yes Messlet said so just before.

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 9:12 PM

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But I think the non-squicky answer SHOULD have been that worgen are infertile.

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Instead of Blizzard going out of their way to say "Well ... technically."

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 9:13 PM

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<shrug> It's useful for worgen's rpers.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Nope. the curse is not hereditary

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Its a curse

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Being fertile is useful for RPers.... W-Wh...

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 9:14 PM

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FURRY ALERT

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FURRY ALERT

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Vris, the fact that it’s a curse has no relation to it not being passed on

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Otherwise, humans would birth metal vrykul babies

dusky ginkgo Feb 16, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Because sometimes roleplayers like to play family..

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Duh

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Yeah the curse actually changes their dna

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Assuming dna exists

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They can be hanged back by any titan keeper though

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That’s what Odyn does with the Vrykul

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 9:40 PM

#

Tol’vir also regained it

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Some, at least. Or was it some of them when they allied with Deathwing and then all of them found a way to do it?

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Idk.

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But there ARE ways.

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I would imagine the worgen curse is a little different as its from Goldrinn. Not the old gods. :v

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Mhm

dense plover Feb 16, 2018, 10:19 PM

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Yeah worsen curse is probably still genetic though

#

It’s more like a disease since it is a reference to werewolves

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But it is probably passed down to their kids

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I don’t think we have any way to check though

rich apex Feb 16, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Blizz said it doesn't pass down to kids

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Genetics in Azeroth are probably a bit wonky when half of the races evolved from magic robots turned to flesh by a curse

hollow dock Feb 16, 2018, 10:35 PM

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They did specifically say its not a hereditary curse. Two worgens who have a kid do birth out a little smol hooman

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Also think of the logistics of it.
A curse is a curse. It's not hereditary, nor can the baby contract it from the worgen mother's blood if you're going to use that excuse.
"The baby and mother share blood during development." is a myth.

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The umbilcal transfer of fluids doesn't work that way.
It provides nutrients, disposes of waste, and can carry over viruses but not blood.

jade basalt Feb 16, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Though fetal cells can end up in the mother's system, which is actually dangerous, and we don't exactly know how. Not sure if the opposite is true. But most importantly, none of this matters. There are hereditary curses in WoW.

zinc sandal Feb 16, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Worgen happens to not be one

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Word of God™ says that the worgen curse isn't.

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That's the thing that matters here.

#

If the development team said no. It's no.

rich apex Feb 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Fel corruption passes down, worgen curse doesn't

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Magic is weird

steel venture Feb 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Answered it right there.
Fel is corruption that mutates and warps the body.

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The worgen curse is the botched byproduct of a druidic form, druid forms are spirits that take over the host.

jade basalt Feb 16, 2018, 11:31 PM

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I did not say the worgen curse was hereditary. It is not. I said you saying curses could not be hereditary is false, because in WoW, some curses can be hereditary.

tropic trail Feb 16, 2018, 11:58 PM

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there are hereditary curses in wow, the curse of flesh being the biggest example

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 12:20 AM

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@jade basalt I said that because something is a curse doesn't mean it is hereditary, as a response to Vris saying "It's a curse so"

rich apex Feb 17, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Presumably Titanforged couldn't exactly do hereditary until Yoggy invented dicks 😛

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Which came with the CoF

jade basalt Feb 17, 2018, 12:48 AM

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@zinc sandal Yea I was responding to xanuzar

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Oh

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:33 AM

#

I heard BfA is taking away some of our action bars.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Well dont believe it. as no action bars have been removed to our knowledge.

jade basalt Feb 17, 2018, 3:37 AM

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I think that on the contrary they added one

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:38 AM

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That'd be nice, since decreasing them sounds ridiculous.

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 5:43 AM

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I entered ironforge and saw lightforged o.o

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I love it

tropic trail Feb 17, 2018, 6:39 AM

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lightforged are a myth

#

there's only void elves

uncut vault Feb 17, 2018, 6:43 AM

#

https://i.redd.it/225ufbbx5ng01.jpg

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anime dwargen

vast mirage Feb 17, 2018, 11:25 AM

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btw is there any videos about mistweaver class in BfA?

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i've seen allot about other classes but cant seem to find one for monk

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 11:45 AM

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did someone say anime :D

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 11:54 AM

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that is a wolf. not a dragon. and weebs are illegal.

uncut vault Feb 17, 2018, 12:00 PM

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its a dwargen. Dwarf worgen.

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 12:04 PM

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and an anime one at that :D

jovial coral Feb 17, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Came up with new theory for ya guys

#

We don't get to play dreanor orcs really but someone found a way to clense green orc of fel

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Unlikely

merry briar Feb 17, 2018, 1:55 PM

#

i have a better theory

#

what if the reason there was no info for classic is because its not a seperate thing, they are slowly making current wow INTO classic wow

#

the level scaling brings back a little bit of difficulty

#

then they get rid of the scaling bit, leaving the difficulty

#

and then make the battle for azeroth lore have entire continents be destroyed

#

till its just ek and kalim

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 1:57 PM

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lol

merry briar Feb 17, 2018, 1:57 PM

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magic

#

classic

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 1:57 PM

#

voila!

merry briar Feb 17, 2018, 1:57 PM

#

voila

#

viola

#

violin

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Well, the green fel is fading in the orcs, but its slow. Much slower than the blood elves who are feeding on Light.

#

Its not classic because it doesn't take 6 months to hit max

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Yeah. Fel corruption is bound to disappear eventually.

jovial coral Feb 17, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Classic is actually going to be a mobile app

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 2:18 PM

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Preposterous.

runic vault Feb 17, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Lol, we get completely messed with. WoW Classic is just a remake of Warcraft 3 with minimal requirements for phone or something

#

Actually, now that I say that, that would be awesome

#

Warcraft 3 on Phone? If it could be ran without issues, I would love to see something like that

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 2:44 PM

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tbh wasnt there supposed to be a "big WC3 announcement" soon

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:07 PM

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None that blizz said

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:10 PM

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http://www.wowhead.com/news=281944&webhook/many-warcraft-3-players-invited-to-offline-event-announcement-soon

Wowhead

Many Warcraft 3 Players Invited to Offline Event - Announcement Soon?

Pro Warcraft III players have been rushing to obtain US visas for a private event at the end of February. Could this be a WC3 remaster announcement?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Yea. Blizz didn't announce anything

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:12 PM

#

Do you think we'll ever get glaives? And by glaives I mean like the ones Wardens wield

#

Warden could be an idea for a new class. Or the spec of a new class.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Probably not. and wardens, at least their themes in Warcraft 3, share a bit to much with rogues.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:24 PM

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In WC3. They don't look much like rogues now, I think.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:25 PM

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They shadowstep, stick to the shadows, hunt contracts, throw knives and blades everywhere.

#

If I'm not mistaken, which I probably am, Warden is a prestige class in the defunked RPG. Granted it is the RPG, but it shows how blizzard has viewed them and its stayed consistent.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:26 PM

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Hm.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Maybe they can take Sub and make it more Warden-like, like they did with making Combat into Outlaw and more like Pirates, but that comes with the issue of wardens only really belonging to the alliance.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:27 PM

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True.

sacred glen Feb 17, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

Is BFA in Beta now or still alpha?

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 3:28 PM

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alpha

sacred glen Feb 17, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Okiedokie, ty kindly, channel name threw me off 😃

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:31 PM

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We love to disappoint.

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 3:31 PM

#

messlet did you reroll to priest recently

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Always been a priest.

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 3:32 PM

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you changed your icon recently tho

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Yes

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My previous one was the Velf crest

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Really the label of it doesn't matter to much @sacred glen

#

I'm on IRC version of discord so I don't see the icons :v

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:39 PM

#

https://imgur.com/a/uypn3

Imgur

#

Wtf

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 3:40 PM

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vris are you using that disgusting light theme

#

that would be the last straw

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:40 PM

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It should not look like that, but okay...

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:43 PM

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No? I use the dark theme. My eyes cant handle the light theme.

#

sorry if I use IRCs more than normal chat rooms

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 3:43 PM

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good vris

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Idk what that is, but it sounds sinful

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:47 PM

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internet relay chat.

#

You get into a client, log into a very simple, [time][Name]:[text] format chat.

#

Allows you to see a lot more lines of text too :v

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Yeah. Sinful.

uncut vault Feb 17, 2018, 3:51 PM

#

I think umbras and glaives would work as heritage weapons, if they ever decide to actually implement those and make some for existing races. Animations fit the night elf one hand strike.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:52 PM

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I think they should just keep the heritage stuff to the allied races :v

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Why

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:54 PM

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For starters the allied races are hell to farm for.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:55 PM

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They really arent

#

and heritage armor is just something for them. I hate seeing secluded things given to everyone

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Plus, screw the idea to add very race restrictive class.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:55 PM

#

I assume you're against DHs then

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 3:55 PM

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I like class restrictions

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:55 PM

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I mean it's not as bad as in Tera at least.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Tera is far worse

#

Not even comparable imo.

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Unless something's changed recently, every single new class is female-locked to a specific race or two.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Loli ninjas

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:56 PM

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So I guess DH doesn't seem to terrible in comparison.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:57 PM

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At least there is a story reason as to why its the 2 main elven races only and has given the chance at spreading to the other races as time goes on

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 3:57 PM

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I did read that lore-wise, other races can be DHs, but we can't make them.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 3:57 PM

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yea. Being a Demon Hunter just takes a demon to hunt and a teacher to guide you.

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But with all the teachers in cryosleep until now,

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Technically, anyone can be anything

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Yea. All it takes is the proper circumstances.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Mhm

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:06 PM

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its whether or not the race as a whole can get access to it. Like I have one of my characters that's an nelf orphan who was taken in by an orc shaman and taught to commune with the elements.

Or my ex-alliance human who has gone with the Illidari and is an initiate demon hunter.

Blizzard is kind to us in letting us write whatever stories we want, just have to consider the gameplay as well. :v

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Gameplay is a foundation to build upon. Not the end-all-be-all.

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Do you think at some point they might add other races to DH then?

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:08 PM

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You're also not restricted to just one class, even though you are gameplay-wise.

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@subtle flower I doubt it.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:08 PM

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INdeed. and yes I do think they might be willing to.

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Just a matter of when.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Eh. I'm not so sure.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:09 PM

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During Blizzcon after Legions announcement they had answered the question on DHs being given to other races, in the near future they aren't going to but sometime later they might. It'll take time, just dont expect it soon.

subtle flower Feb 17, 2018, 4:09 PM

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I'd say they're more likely to do that than Tera is to give a Male Aman ANY new class.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Do you have a video of it, Vris?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:10 PM

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I don't. As it was a long time ago and I only watched the livestream ;v

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@jade basalt Do you have any information on blizzard saying what I claim?

jade basalt Feb 17, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Hmm I think I might remember them tackling the question but I don't remember the answer. Looking at the 2017, 2016 & 2015 Q&As I can't find anything.

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So I don't think so but I'm not sure.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:24 PM

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I remember them answering it at sometime during a blizzcon. Not sure if it was after legion, during or sometime before. :v

jade basalt Feb 17, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Possible yea

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Hmm digging through my notes I got this

" 2016/07/29 Right now it's Night Elves and Blood Elves due to the class fantasy with Illidan and WC3. No immediate plans. And limiting it to elves allowed for more customization (voiceover, appearances); adding races makes it more difficult to keep up with. Never say never though."

drowsy cipher Feb 17, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Oof.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:30 PM

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So yeah. I doubt they’ll do it.

jade basalt Feb 17, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Thing is demon hunters are more than a class, they're practically a race. They have custom voice overs, tailored animations, and customization. I mean they have twice as much customization options as an Allied Race. So while giving the "warrior" class to a new race is not such a big deal, making another race able to become demon hunters is a whole other issue, because there is so much more to transfer.

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And that's only the technical side. Because there's also the class fantasy (elves) and whatever they mentioned. I don't think gnome demon hunter fits that fantasy of a servant and elite soldier of Illidan. Or the fantasy of truly "sacrificing everything" to seek revenge against the Legion, as the elves were the civilizations the most affected by the demons.

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Not to mention their specialized starting zone. If they won't reconfigure the death knight starting zone for the obvious races that could be them, I don't see it happening for DHs

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 4:34 PM

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There is also not much need for DHs anymore. The Legion is over. Yes, demons still exist, but they’d be fools to attack Azeroth.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Yea but you can argue the same for Dks. yet theyre still pretty relevant 🤷

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 4:46 PM

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I guess it's mostly just the existing DHs
I mean, now that the crusade is over and Illidan is gone, they didn't cease to exist, they've got to find their own place in the world
Which, because this is WoW, means fully committing to the Alliance or Horde

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 4:58 PM

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or just being a neutral faction

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like the ebon blade.

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 5:06 PM

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As a faction, yeah, but sadly there's no option for an individual DH player to be neutral

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So the Illidari and the Ebon Blade are just... awkwardly full of opposing players

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Both factions are neutral tho. Just the PCs are tied to the faction cuz gameplay

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Yeah
It's kind of weird flavor-wise that a neutral faction is mostly composed of not-neutral players, but I can live with it because that's just how Warcraft is

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 5:45 PM

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I mean. That's how its been since BC.

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:03 PM

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PSA: There were demon hunters supposedly being trained prior to BC imprisoning and/or killing most of the teachers for a while.

Even as a ghost, Telarius was still able to recruit new trainees with his writings.

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Telarius_Voidstrider
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Writings_of_the_Void

Wowpedia

Telarius Voidstrider

Wowpedia

Quest:Writings of the Void

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Indeed. but these demon hunters aren't apart of the illidari. their recruits have either died, turned legion, or been imprisoned. DHs have been very active up until Id say Cataclysm within the vanilla world.

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:16 PM

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I believe its implied that the other DHs ended up going to the Illidari if those other options didn't occur.
The members of the Illidari do seem to recognize Loramus Thalipedes despite him never being offically apart of the sect.

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And then end up taking him in as he tries to keep Razelikh under control.

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:17 PM

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There is also the murloc dk xD

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Murgulis, YEAH.
LIKE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN.

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:18 PM

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murlock dh best dh

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I think it was a practical joke a Lich played

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:18 PM

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~~Apparently Maiev in HotS harasses Murky about Murkidan and Murgulis about their wereabouts. Since, murloc DHs.~~

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:18 PM

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It is ingame, canon. xD

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He looks amazing too

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Oh Murgurlis the DH.

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Should say DH and not DK Kham. :p

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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As weird as he is he's still canon. But very much an outlier on the whole DH thing.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Well he fits the bill of DH

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Oh, sorrah

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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murgurlis... u can see the anime of him :D

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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a bunch of demons invaded his home and destroyed all that he loves

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so he sacrificed everything to go fight them

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Meant dh, but murlocs can also be dks

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:20 PM

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https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/a/ac/Murgulis1.jpg?version=56c732ab6877731abd950831b0d4a24d

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and even got one of the illidari felsabers somehow too

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so he's bossin' it up pretty hard

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:20 PM

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he somehow has the warglaives of Azzinoth too

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despite illidan having them and setting them on fire

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Has that ever been explained btw? why he decided to set the glaives on fire?

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Nope, just probably to give him a more "unique" look since 7.2 also ended up bringing the fact that players can transmog the Warglaives of Azzinoth now.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:21 PM

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So he pulled them from whatever adventurer claimed them

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and then set thme on fire so he can be special

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god I hate illidan even more now

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:22 PM

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I feel like it's implied that Maiev was the one who took them in canon? But it's a little dubious.

Especially when there's no direct Warcraft-based support on it, but it makes the most logical sense.

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...
Plus they have a line in HotS for her that jokingly references the fact that she has the Shard of Azzinoth in her dagger colelction.

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:23 PM

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no no no, u cant hate illidan, u need to feel sorrry for him and Tyrande was a tooooootal bitch for not sucking his D

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:23 PM

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How was that implied Xan?

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 6:23 PM

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what if the warcraft 3 announcement that's rumored for march,is a warcraft 4,and it tells the story of what happens on azeroth while we are busy on zandalar/kultiras

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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that'd be silly IMO

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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You mean what happens on azeroth when were on argus?..

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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neither would work though

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Zandalar and kultiras are on azeroth

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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She does keep DH glaives in the Vault of the Wardens due to the fact she gives the Slayer's their glaives back. So IDK. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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i mean on the REST of azeroth lul

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Doesn't seem TOO much of a stretch if she had the Warglaives of Azzinoth under lock and key as well.

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Bfa will be on all of azerotg

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I am

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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well, the issue is how the story will be handled

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Azerotg

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Well its not our original glaives from back in the day. its new ones. Which like. its these inconsistences that annoy me

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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khamnin you are completely missing my point

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Dafire means the story of what's happening on Kalmindor and the Eastern Kingdoms

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While we are in Zandalar/Kul'tiras

strange falcon Feb 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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vris may be playing alliance,but at least she understand people

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when they talk

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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My bigotry towards the factions doesn't impede my understanding of peoples words :v

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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vris secretly also loves anime~

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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I don't think I am. We will have story everywhere in bfa. Warfronts, the two sieges. A lot of canon characters will be seen. I can't see it hapoening

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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I'll never admit it.

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Theyre not going to be with us 24/7 Khamnin.

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:27 PM

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This would still be very hard to do

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:27 PM

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but the issue is how u handle a story in w4 with wow's patches

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:28 PM

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that's why I really doubt W4 will ever come out

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Like. It'd get obsolete almost instantly

tulip sun Feb 17, 2018, 6:28 PM

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If anything, simply a remaster

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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cuz WoW is still going on.

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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id be down for warcraft 1-3 remasters

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Itd be nice to see some continuity fixes in those remasters if they happen

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Like Tyrande recognizing Orcs

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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or warcraft can be on alt draenor

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and lead into alt azeroth

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Nah they wont do that

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:30 PM

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sadly :<

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Like.

mint arch Feb 17, 2018, 6:30 PM

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but itd be cool

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frees em up

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:30 PM

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The timeline of that alt azeroth is gone

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Cuz

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no horde to fight them off in the third war

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Alliance just gets crushed, lose the world tree and there ya go

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 6:32 PM

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My headcanon for Murgulis is that he has a completely coincidental backstory that exactly paralells Illidan's

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 6:36 PM

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No that's Murkidan.

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"After consuming the shin bone of Gul'dan, this fiesty demon hunter was caged for 10000 years by his brother Murkfurion."

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Murkfurion for HOTS when

rich apex Feb 17, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Did Murgulis nearly doom the world tho

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Can we just replace Illidan's inevitable return with Murgulis

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:07 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/0H6QUK5.png

Imgur

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I am in love with the new hyena mounts.
So much love.

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 7:29 PM

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i'm in love with all the new bfa mounts

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Yeah, they are all pretty cool

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Glad we are getting s good mix of ground and flight mounts too

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Not to mention the Pterrodax training where when we first get it, it can’t fly, and the flying one is a separate mount

timid temple Feb 17, 2018, 7:37 PM

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Oooh Hyena mount! that looks sick.

polar mango Feb 17, 2018, 7:37 PM

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What up yall!

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Anything amazing get datamined this last week besides the Teldrasill text?

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Can Pandas be Druids yet?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Wish I could answer.

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 7:41 PM

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I'm all about those zandalari death knights

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:41 PM

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I don’t know if we are getting any new class/race combos

languid yoke Feb 17, 2018, 7:44 PM

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giev worgen monks ;_;

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 7:47 PM

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The Zandalari were in WotLK, they should be DKs :angery:

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Dark iron / zandalari dks at least can work. //shakesfist

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Worgen monks make 0 sense

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Void elf monks are a thing.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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They are half feral, they are filled with rage. Monks have controlled rage

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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There is no limitation on monks.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Worgen literally can’t control their rage

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Which is why they go wolf form in combat

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:48 PM

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If literal mutated void-afflicted beings can be monks.

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Well, velfs were belfs until a couple months ago

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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A werewolf can be a monk.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Void elf’s aren’t emotionally uncontrolled

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Presumably they were belf monks until they went and joined up with alleria

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Also that ^

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They are very recently not blood elves

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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In fact, the whole void elf shtick is having extremely high willpower to avoid being tempted by the asshole void

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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^

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They make sense as monks

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Worgen are the opposite

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Most Gilnean worgen are presumed to have undergone the rituals to tame the worgen side, they're no longer raging savages.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:50 PM

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They are unable to fully control their emotions

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Whenever they get too angry, they go wolf form

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Otherwise we wouldn't have had a major part of their questline to literally do that.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:50 PM

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This is still true of Genn

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They can control it somewhat, but they are not able to never go wolf

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:51 PM

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The only 'gilnean' worgen not in control are the ferals in bloodpack I believe.

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Not all monks are nice either. It's overdue on the whole monk thing for both goblins and worgen.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:51 PM

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But being 'in control' isnt as controlling as we think

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Exactly

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That’s what I’m saying

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Varian is a great example of how hard it can be to control the beast within

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Except ... the same concept about controlling inner rage also applies to orcs.

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As of the newer canon they can still enter a bloodhaze without even having fel in them.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Inner rage and the feral bloodlust of Goldrinn are slightly different things

steel venture Feb 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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As far as Blizzard is concerned, the Jeykll and Hyde concept for Worgen now is near-nonexistant.

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They went out of their way to mute it as much as possible in the storyline for Gilnean worgen.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Uh

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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its never been Jeykll and Hyde O.o

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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What?

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Yeah

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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When a worgen transforms they got slightly more feral. this is still true despite the ritual to not make them feral

languid yoke Feb 17, 2018, 7:56 PM

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could learn the way of monk to learn to control themselves even further?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:57 PM

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the idea is that they cant control themselves in combat long enough to master any of the techniques.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:57 PM

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^

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That’s why worgen uncontrollably shift form in combat

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:57 PM

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The angrier they get, the harder it gets to tame the beast as seen with Genn vs Nathanos.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 7:58 PM

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They would never make sense as monks

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 7:58 PM

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As seen in the combat of Taran Zhu vs Garrosh, Zhu was calm, collected and focused the entire fight against Garrosh.

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Discipline is hard to attain when a force outside of your own instincts are screaming to take over. Orc bloodlust can be tamed by willpower, but rivaling the curse of an ancient is a very different story I'd imagine.

grizzled nacelle Feb 17, 2018, 8:11 PM

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If kungfu panda taught us anything, any furry can be a monk

odd aspen Feb 17, 2018, 8:12 PM

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so zandalari monks right?

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ez

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Again, for those I can see happening with time.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Aren’t they an option according to what we know?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Fairly certain they will be monks

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 8:17 PM

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According to the wiki, Zandalari can be: Druid, Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 8:24 PM

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huh

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i mean it could change'

dark current Feb 17, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Sure the playable worgen are heavily story-based. All player characters in that instance are created before the Fall of the Gilnean Wall. That piece of stonework might be unable to keep out big hairy wolfmen, but it sure as hell kept out those filthy Pandas!

dark current Feb 17, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Also, I'd expect Zandalari are not Monks similary due to never meeting Pandarens by the time the playable Trolls are "created" at lvl 1.

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 9:14 PM

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uh

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i think its more that they have been at war with the pandaren

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so they arent interested in their techniques

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zandalari have known about monks for longer than the rest of azeroth's races

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:15 PM

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^

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Also, by that logic none of the allied races would be monks

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Except for Velves

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 9:16 PM

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yeah

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 9:16 PM

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I want Draenei Jedhin Monks

dense plover Feb 17, 2018, 9:16 PM

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nightborne had pandaren show up to teach them, so how soon they met it irrelevant

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Mess, velves are just blood elves that got forced onto that juice

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Belves can be monks so why not Velves?

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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They can be

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Read again, Vris

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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velves can be anything really because they've got no actual story

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Oh none

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yea.

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Velves are just cooler belves

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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No actual story? O.o

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Mungus, Velves have story. They're belves

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Wha

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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belves who researched the void

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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And got forced onto that juice

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m8

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Belves nonetheless

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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i mean they have very little story of their own

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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and they chose the right side this time around

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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^

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Its a continuation of the belf story.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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so it wouldn't really have been an issue to give them all belf classes

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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and to a lesser extent, the helf story.

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Well. I would say paladins dont make sense

dark current Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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@mrpeach774 I wanted to mention the possible disregard for the pandaren culture. Sadly my phone app is direly slow to type

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:23 PM

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and priests are only there cuz shadow priests

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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What Vris said.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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paladins yeah

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and dhs maybe

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but other classes i don't see why not

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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I think DHs are to juiced up on fel to actually accept the void transformation tbh

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Priests have been using the light and the void at the same time for ages

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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yeah that's why they don't make sense

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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i wanna see jaina find someone to hook up with and ahve some kids for future generations

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Shadow is not the void

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Goku

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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tbh i'm just pissy that i can't play my dk as a velf

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:24 PM

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she's tried with 3 men

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all three are either useless or evil

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or both

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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warlocks are using the void for a tiny bit

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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She does not have the best track record with men

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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jaina has a terribly poor taste in men

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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maybe she is into women

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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I mean

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everyone is.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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lol no this is wow

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Cuz everyone in WoW is gay.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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making an lgbt character in this universe would spell disaster for blizzard

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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jaina and vereesa make good couple

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Why?

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:25 PM

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They already did Mung

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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when

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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In the tailoring questline there is an openly gay elf who is searching for her wife

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for Legion

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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i wonder how many allied races they gonna make

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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European server has some special guilds

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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that's a pretty hidden example

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Ever since Vanilla they've hinted away that homosexuality is slightly common at least within the elven communities.

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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im gonna be all burned out by time i get all mine to 110

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Hidden? If you pick up tailoring you find her. she has you searching for her wife.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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it's different than making a hugely popular lore character gay

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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that's pretty out in the open.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Maiev is also hinted at

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Heck

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The NIGHTBORNE FEMALE is bisexual

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the player race :v

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So we know for a fact, its a thing

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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are these the same hints that people like pyromancer use to say that bread slices are old gods

ruby pewter Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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there's gay enchanting ghost elves too

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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i wanted to name all my toons jaina but blizzard wouldnt let me 😦

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I mentioned that one

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:27 PM

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No

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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she's my favorite lore character on alliance

ruby pewter Feb 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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No jaina. Only Paina. Rommath will name your toons from now on

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Painass

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Because that's what Jaina is

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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But yea Mungus, in the I think /joke or /flirt there are interests for the Nightborne female looking into dating Tyrande

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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tyrande would enjoy herself too much

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Tyrande is not a greedy lover

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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yup it's those kinda hints

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tyrande is an idiot of a character

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Eh yea. Right now she is.

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Thankfully Golden is there.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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absolute

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moron

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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So maybe they'll actually write her properly

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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i like the lightforged draenei cause kinda makes me feel like golden frieza or a super saiyan

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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coughweebcough

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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lol.

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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ur illegal

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u weeb

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Man I can't wait to read Mungus' rant post

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:31 PM

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nah i'm just trying to unfuck my keyboard

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Ah I see.

misty blaze Feb 17, 2018, 9:31 PM

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have fun guys gonna work the grind getting my allied to 110

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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my velf has been stuck at 34 for days

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too lazy

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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I'm at 77 with my Lightforged

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Im at 0

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cuz computer issues ;3;

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:33 PM

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hey, here's an idea i'm sure you didn't think about before:
Do dungeons and quests to lvl up! Wow!

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Don't mind him, just read his name

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:33 PM

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lol

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idk man herbalism from 20 to 110 seems more viable

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Considering you can get that in like an hour or two of running around suramar, probably.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:37 PM

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@sage tapir With the recent changes to dungeon exp, it's a lot faster

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:37 PM

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faster that it used to be

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still crap compared to questing

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Not really

neat oar Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Blizz isn't great at making non-token representation

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Shame method zero was killed.

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Cant have a 110 guildie halping you out, takes ages

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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it takes ages to kill anything in dungeons atleast in my experience

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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It pays off, trust me

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Wha?

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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2-3 dungeons = 1 level

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Dungeons I was in we zoomed past everything.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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maybe I just had a sucky group

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Probably

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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But my group was full loomed. So maybe.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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yeah that wasn't the case with mine

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might try some more runs later to check

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Oh yea. then obvi it'll take forever to kill.

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Life without looms must be miserable

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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i tried leveling without them when the revamp first came out

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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lol

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Masochist

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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got bored out of my mind with how slow and painful it was

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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It's a lot faster lvling in dungeons/ questing than just doing nothing

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:40 PM

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but i thought sitting afk in orgrimmar was the fastest way to level

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Wait... It isn't?

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o_o

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:40 PM

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blasphemy

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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not everything i say is trolling btw

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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it sure sounds like it

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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i do it just for you! <3

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Oh daddy~

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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get a room

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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I prefer public

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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we have a room.
it's called #beta-ptr-spoilers

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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^

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Tell 'em baby

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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bloody exhibitionists

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:43 PM

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aww, does that make you sad?

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:43 PM

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it scars my innocent mind

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:43 PM

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good

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:43 PM

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zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Btw Mungus

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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yeah?

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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At Lv.77 with full looms, one dungeon run equals around 45% of the exp bar

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Maybe more

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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that's decent

uncut gorge Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Good to know

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Let me run another one and I'll report back

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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👍

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:51 PM

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@zinc sandal Dont forget dungeon quests

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 9:52 PM

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I've already run all WotL dungeons, so no quests

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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BC dungeons?

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:56 PM

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@zinc sandal Great.
You still have Classic, Burning Crusade, Cata, MoP, WoD, and Legion dungeons left.

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 9:56 PM

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can't really do any of those aside from BC ones at 77

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and i'd venture to guess he's done those as well

meager warren Feb 17, 2018, 9:56 PM

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eh

acoustic gust Feb 17, 2018, 10:05 PM

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when your wondering if youre ever going to win anything especially a mount from of these 😕 giveaways

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 10:06 PM

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There are thousands of people here. Do the math.

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@sage tapir I just ran Utgarde Pinnacle. It gave me 4% (which is what I needed to level up from 77 to 78) and then another 42%. Full looms, no quests.

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So 46-47%

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 10:11 PM

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that's pretty good

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 10:12 PM

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So 2-3 runs = 1 level

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Utgarde Pinnacle has no bonus objectives, so...

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Culling of Stratholme has a lot of bonus objectives, so it'd probably be 50% or more

sage tapir Feb 17, 2018, 10:12 PM

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2.17392 runs

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pretty good

hollow dock Feb 17, 2018, 10:14 PM

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and ofc this isnt calculating another chunk of xp from dungeon quests. :v

zinc sandal Feb 17, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Mhm

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Every one of those is...what? 2%

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So there.

terse patrol Feb 18, 2018, 12:11 AM

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60-80 is officially my personal hell.

merry briar Feb 18, 2018, 12:11 AM

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same lol

terse patrol Feb 18, 2018, 12:11 AM

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why is exp gain so slow post-60?

merry briar Feb 18, 2018, 12:12 AM

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cause the game hates us

zinc sandal Feb 18, 2018, 12:14 AM

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@terse patrol The leveling curve spikes between 60-80

neat oar Feb 18, 2018, 12:15 AM

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I hear a lot of complaints that levelling is pretty good with the Cata revamped zones from 1-60, then you get to BC/Wrath and you end up in content older than what you did before

gaunt helm Feb 18, 2018, 12:21 AM

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1-60 is easy

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but from there on I wanna Kill my self

zinc sandal Feb 18, 2018, 12:25 AM

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60-80 is the worst

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80-90 is okay, and 90+ is a breeze

glad ether Feb 18, 2018, 12:37 AM

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I got all 20 levels by only doing 3 full zones in Northrend, but some of those quests really do show their age

polar mango Feb 18, 2018, 12:47 AM

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60-80 felt easy and fast, 40-60 was poop.

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Once you get to Northrend the quests are way more dense in the Grizzly Hills/Howling Fjord area and you're done before you finish Dragonblight.

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Then it just gets even faster with MoP on.

rich apex Feb 18, 2018, 12:52 AM

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1-60 has 'new' stuff at least when there's so many old world zones that you probably haven't done them all even by now

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60-80 is the slog until you get to glorious Pandaria

neat oar Feb 18, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Glorious Pandaria ❤

rich apex Feb 18, 2018, 12:58 AM

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And then you can get through Draenor in like two hours at most

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Pretty sure the 20% exp potion and the treasures not being nerfed is Blizz's apology

neat oar Feb 18, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Shoutouts to the fact I procrastinated on Draenor so much and did pandaria dailies and timewalking dungeons that I accidentally skipped Draenor

rich apex Feb 18, 2018, 1:00 AM

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That's productive at least 😛

dense plover Feb 18, 2018, 1:01 AM

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to be clear

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the amount of xp needed for 60-80 is exactly the same as pre-7.3.5

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its just that now you arent getting as much from dungeons

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and mobs take longer to kill

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i want them to make 60-80 into 60-100 tho