#beta-ptr-spoilers

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deep pawn
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Apparently others got invited too since Blizzard did some of it through the research portal

deep pawn
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I'm sad the only notifications I've gotten from here in 6 days is because of bots being smacked down lol

deep pawn
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That said, they changed the dates for Timeways on PTR

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https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/2057063396130902057

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

With the latest patch, it looks like some of the predicted dates for Patch 12.1 & Season 2 may have shifted

Turbulent Timeways V has now been moved to June 30th until August 11th, which could potentially line up with Patch 12.1 launching on August 11th and Season 2 starting a

X ·
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8 week cadence is back on the menu

zealous sedge
deep pawn
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who knows

dense plover
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QA was

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Ybarra destroyed QA

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even if they have been rehiring, it takes a lot of time to get people up to speed

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extra time will help

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and its clear people are ok with that

deep pawn
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It seems like even if they were considering delaying 12.1 for two weeks it's been reversed

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Likely because of the fact Blizzcon is coming

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You can't have your star MDI players missing an in person tournament for the race

deep pawn
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Hmmm, Blizzard updated the name of this quiver in 12.0.7 and added the trading post cost

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It's just funny with all the speculation about Windborne Elves being more rustic

subtle oar
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That is not anything nw

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Quel'Danil is th old High Elf lodge in northern Hintrlands

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Stop trying to push this stupid skyborn elf bullshit. I swear. This is Pyromancer levels of "Speculation"

pulsar minnow
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Fully convinced the skyborne name is an internal joke since we’ve already have devs poke fun at the whole thing

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Ngl

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And in general if they are adding anything it’ll probably just be a quest line to add a bunch of high elf customization options to void and blood elves like tattoos or some new hairstyles since belves got very little new stuff from the Shadowlands overhaul

deep pawn
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I do personally hope it's customizations for both factions over a new allied race

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And adds elf druid and shaman

deep pawn
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Let me speculate over the fact they've been adding a ton of dwarf stuff and this ptr build has a bunch of Wildhammer NPCs that aren't doing anything yet for some reason

subtle oar
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It is literally nothing special

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Stop bing Doronsmovies

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Stop being Pyromancer

deep pawn
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Seriously chill or block me. It's not that deep.

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It's a new trading post item for July or August that could tie into a bunch of other stuff coming unless you rather this channel be entirely silent

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As a reminder all of this started purely because Blizzard decided to encrypt a bunch of housing items we had already seen which implies there's something secret about them.

deep pawn
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We are getting closer to an announcement of something. Apparently Preach and other content creators got to watch something last minute.

upper pasture
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I mean we should be getting the official announcement of 12.0.7 with date any day now

deep pawn
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Oh, no Preach only got told what the major Blizzcon announcements are, not like the StarCraft game, 12.2, and 13.0 are secrets

deep pawn
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Oh you mean the next patch date, I read that as 12.1 announcement

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Yeah, they're already doing content features.

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June 18th is almost certain between 8 week cadence and midsummer's

ember blaze
deep pawn
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I'm down for that purely because there'd be riots from certain retail players

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I'm really hoping classic plus has Ogres

upper pasture
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It would be neat to see wow get the “Diablo warlock” treatment with something

deep pawn
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New races in classic is easier

upper pasture
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Yes of course but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be cool if they launched a race in say classic+/ SoD 2.0 / retail all at the same time

deep pawn
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After Haranir clipping I can't see them trying ogre or vrykul

worn crown
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I was reading the WoWhead article by Portergauge (I didn't bother playing the PTR) about Ula'tek

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Zul'jan is really stupid
And he has grandaddy issues

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Can't wait to put him out of his misery in 12.1

lone mantle
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I finished the Curse of Ula’tek questline because I thought it would lead me to a new troll zone, but instead I ended up in Moisara Caverns.

austere gazelle
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in the 12.0.7 patch, T6 Ritual Sites award 5 Myth Crests per run with no limits or lockout.

I don't get blizzard inconsistency. I really don't.

Delves are locked to the first 4 per week, but this crappy event has no limit ? Why Delves have a limit to begin with ?

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Sometime I have the feeling that the designer are rolling dice to decide what they will do with new content

turbid path
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Hi, I am experiencing a progression blocker in Midnight on the PTR (12.0.7).

Once my characters reach level 81, I can no longer access any dungeons on any difficulty. Dungeon lists stop appearing entirely, and the Follower Dungeons and Story Mode options disappear from the Group Finder (LFG).

When I talk to the NPC to enter a dungeon, I get the message: “You do not meet the requirements.” The physical dungeon portals also prevent entry.

This issue already happened to me in version 12.0.5 and is still happening in 12.0.7.

Because of this, I cannot continue the Midnight campaign on any character, and since I haven’t completed it, I also cannot skip the campaign. The issue affects all characters on my account, including level 90 characters.

This completely blocks me from testing the new content and providing feedback.

It’s mainly to know whether this issue is only happening to me or if other players testing the PTR are experiencing it as well.

Thank you.

austere gazelle
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or maybe in their official discord now.

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@minor mirage

dense plover
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Level a character on live and then copy it

deep pawn
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release candidate, let's go

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and new music!

little hound
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And 1 less week for timeway achiev

rustic cliff
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Is there no trophy decor for Sporefall? I figured they'd be doing one for the final boss of each raid given they did one for dreamrift, but i dont see them on the rewards page 🙁

little hound
upper pasture
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I’m sure it’s “somewhere” I highly doubt they aren’t gonna add trophies for spore fall

subtle oar
little hound
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Touche.

crude sigil
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<@&299347348847329281>

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(you can add a rule to automod with this sentence)

zinc sandal
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First!

steel venture
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should be alpha*

karmic scroll
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Muted 😄

elder otter
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There isn't an "alpha" client. Or at least not a public one. 😄

steel venture
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or maybe bfa-development?

rich apex
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h y p e

elder otter
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Beta is the appropriate word.

blissful jungle
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Hola mi amigas

elder otter
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News will be incoming.

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..and already is.

zinc sandal
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Beta is up, so it’s fine

blissful jungle
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I wonder when invites will start going out.

zinc sandal
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“Zandalari quests seem to involve a possible new Old God called G'huun”

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wut

copper dove
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👌🏾

zinc sandal
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“Data for the remaining two Allied Races (Zandalari Trolls and Kul'Tiran) was added.”

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wut wut

elder otter
terse patrol
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Sick

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Get wrecked, Sylvie.

meager warren
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do we get exclusives from playing in beta, in live?

rich apex
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Nope

meager warren
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darnit

rich apex
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(not as of every prior beta, far as I'm awre)

meager warren
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ty

zinc sandal
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Manduin getting fancy model!

rich apex
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Golden Boi has become a Golden Manduin

zinc sandal
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Appetizing

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I mean

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What

meager warren
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What about Zappy Boi ;(

elder otter
meager warren
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YES! We're gettin' a parrot mount. Feelsgoodman

zinc sandal
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Yo

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Are icons and stuff labeled? I can’t see it on my phone

tropic trail
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Anduin still has an odd phase. Looks nothing like him in the video

bronze anchor
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goblin hovercraft too

meager warren
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what does PH mean btw

tropic trail
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Place Holder

meager warren
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ooohh

tropic trail
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I bet this is temporary "%s, No Good, Dirty, Rotten, Candy Stealer!"

meager warren
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maybe. but hopefully not ;3

zinc sandal
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Who tf is Xalzaix

meager warren
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a new character probs

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sounds demonic

zinc sandal
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Nah

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Void creature probably

meager warren
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o

uncut vault
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those genn and anduin models are HOT

terse patrol
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seems like we’re likely to get preorders on the 30th 😉

tight wagon
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do u think bfa is closer than expected

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because of instant beta instead of alpha?

uncut vault
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eh, as close as past xpacs

meager warren
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maybe they'll have alpha go next this time

uncut vault
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legion alpha/beta isnt anything to go by for future xpacs

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because it had around 100 more test days than past ones

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due to class overhauls

rich apex
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I absolutely cannot imagine launch being earlier than September

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And that's super generous

tropic trail
rich apex
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Omg I want

tropic trail
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Pretty sure that's Anduin's

rich apex
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But considering Blizz always says they want to reduce drought time

old token
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They'd never release it during the summer. That's suicide. Releasing a game during the summer is only making it tank harder.

rich apex
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Dammit Anduin

old token
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August is the earliest it'll be.

meager warren
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i mean

rich apex
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Considering last time they said 'summer 2018'

tropic trail
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I wish they'd release it before summer, that's when you have the most time to play 😦

rich apex
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And then it was the literal last day of summer

meager warren
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if they release it during the summer, more people would play. more people = more profits

rich apex
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People are gonna play either way

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It'll release when it's done

tropic trail
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"NEW Legion's Bane Complete the quest line "The Council's Challenge," unlocking a new appearance for your artifact weapon."

meager warren
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are u sure they said it'd be released in summer tho?

uncut vault
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will probably put fall 2018 on the box

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they did

meager warren
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that sounds like a big mistake tbh

rich apex
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They said summer for -Legion-

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Two years ago 😛

uncut vault
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Legion box and preorder said summer 2016

rich apex
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Bfa will probably be fall 2018, yes

old token
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Except releasing it in the summer is bad most people do vacations, things that are family based, outside of the home. No game company wants to release a game in the summer unless it is early May or late August.

meager warren
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"Hey, everybody, it'll release in summer and if we don't meet the deadline, feel free to maul us to death"

uncut vault
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but it basically wasnt summer

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because it was the very end

old token
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Which is why it was okay.

meager warren
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it basically was though

uncut vault
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fall release is the perfect time for BfA

meager warren
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it was still summer so

old token
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August was a good time to do it. Kids were able to play a bit and have a thing to look forward to after school and parents didn't have to worry about kids staying inside all day.

blissful jungle
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Now release is perfecter

mental onyx
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Whoa

old token
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I agree. I want my goddamn zandalari pls

meager warren
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"parents didn't have to worry about kids staying inside all day" u sure about that?

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i would think people would play more right after a new release

old token
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Except they couldn't cause they have this thing called school.

meager warren
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touche

mental onyx
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So is this alpha or beta? and which server was it deployed onto

meager warren
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a server

old token
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It says both. Some things are saying alpha but others are saying beta.

zinc sandal
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School never stopped me from staying inside all day pfffft weaklings

meager warren
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it says beta over there
<----

old token
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Yeah, it says beta there.

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But like on a different website it says alpha

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so.

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???

plain vigil
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Blizzard phased out public alpha

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They do an internal alpha and then a hybrid alpha/beta

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They do not have a true “alpha”

elder otter
tight wagon
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Legion Blacksmithing (New) Allows a Blacksmith to make basic weapons and armor up to a maximum potential skill of 100. Requires stone and metal found with the mining skill. Blacksmithing. Instant.

zinc sandal
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What is this Legion’s Bane thing?

tight wagon
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holy shit

elder otter
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The client is called "beta" -- which is what we're using. The phase of testing is more accurately alpha but its just semantics.

tight wagon
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maybe they're reducing profession skill numbers

meager warren
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they're releasing human as one of the new races? wot

old token
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It's an Allied Race, it seems.

meager warren
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just human? not kul tiran human?

old token
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'thin human' and 'Kul Tiran human'

rich apex
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Who knows what it is

old token
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both are added to the 'Races.'

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Along with Zandalari FINALLY

zinc sandal
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Kul’Tirans because NPCs

old token
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Nah.

mental onyx
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Isle of Blizzcon > Creepy Isle of Blizzcon .. 2018 blizzcon confirmed?

old token
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It's gonna be playable like the orc chest vest they datamined.

uncut vault
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labeled for both npcs and players

meager warren
old token
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^^ boom

zinc sandal
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Hmmm... Surprise allied race?

meager warren
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why does it just say "human"

zinc sandal
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And what about Horde?

mental onyx
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"Thinhuman"

rich apex
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There'll be actual context when beta is public 😛

uncut vault
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said it in ptr chat, totally gonna be maghar and kul tirans in 8.1

rich apex
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It's just lines of files

wooden topaz
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maghar ?

old token
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Yeah. 8.1 is Maghar and Kul Tiran, calling it too.

rich apex
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(but we'll spend the next six months bickering over it while BLizz says nothing)

plain vigil
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Brown orcs

wooden topaz
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ahhh

uncut vault
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MM changes look interesting

zinc sandal
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Le hype

wooden topaz
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all I care about is that brontosaur mount

uncut vault
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the aimed shot talent at level 100 is baked into the kit, and a new rotation ability to replace windshot

plain vigil
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Survival hunters get to play with animal venom now 😁

wooden topaz
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use gamon toy and world shrinker and mammoth parade around org

meager warren
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The Mag'har are brown orcs, i think

zinc sandal
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Furries

wooden topaz
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but with a dinosaur

meager warren
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i care about the parrot mount

old token
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Mag'har are the orcs that didn't drink Mannoroth's blood, they are still seen in Outland.

plain vigil
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But seriously guys HIEENA MOUNTS

meager warren
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as well as ALLL the dino mounts!

rich apex
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New horse models tho

wooden topaz
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im going to ride that long neck and make people annoyed it will be fun

zinc sandal
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I’m calling it. The Zerg are invading Azeroth. “Hivemind” mount.

plain vigil
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I Remember how cool i thought hyenas were back before they increased poly’s

meager warren
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Zerg? wut

zinc sandal
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Starcraft?

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No?

meager warren
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no

zinc sandal
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Bah...

plain vigil
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@zinc sandal may actually be for a starcraft bonus event, as sc2 is free now

zinc sandal
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Me likey

rich apex
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Boi if I have to play SC2 for a cross promotion now

plain vigil
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Just like the mccree doggos that havent been put into the game yet

zinc sandal
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Let me ride Zagara

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(jk)

plain vigil
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I just wanna know what the did mount is

wooden topaz
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wut

terse patrol
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dark iron dwarf

meager warren
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oh

wooden topaz
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ah

meager warren
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same

terse patrol
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Well

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Theres a black furred, red eyed baby goat icon

wooden topaz
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what i want is my damn dog mount

meager warren
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will we be able to like

terse patrol
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So I assume a black furred, red eyed goat

meager warren
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do both continents on one faction char later on

wooden topaz
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ima say this im going to like warfronts if it is similar to warcraft 3 as they said

uncut vault
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havoc has immolation aura, thats cool

meager warren
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it's likely going to be a lot harder

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since the AIs are much better in them, iirc

tight wagon
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askjgklajgkl, Tiragarde Sound (New) - Alliance only.

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Creative

zinc sandal
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Jaina model looking good

meager warren
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Jaina is like, Alliance version of Sylvannas and just as evil to boot

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but they're both decent looking

tropic trail
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Is it playable for people to stream ? Wouldn't mind watching people play through it if that's a thing ^^

rich apex
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Nope

zinc sandal
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AZSHARA!!!

meager warren
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is rood

tight wagon
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her ragdoll pose najskdbiasdoiqwhkabjsldasd

meager warren
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who's the guy at the bottom

ivory kestrel
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So - have invites for Beta started to go out or?

meager warren
zinc sandal
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Rastakhan

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King of the Zandalari

meager warren
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ooohh

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can't wait to meet 'im ;D

dense plover
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well Vris

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here we are

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i went away for a few hours and all the things happened

ivory kestrel
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anyone? (Have the beta invites started?)

rich apex
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Nope

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Wowhead will say when they have 😛

ivory kestrel
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ok ty @rich apex

runic verge
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ORC CLAN ALLIED RACe?

uncut vault
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that azshara model

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DAMN

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creepy as shit with no animations

steel venture
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MY QUEEEN

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the extra eyes god bless

terse patrol
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:clicking:

uncut vault
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the tail on anduins horse has more polygons than jainas hair

plain vigil
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Wait

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The hive mind TURNS YOU INTO a mount

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🙌🏻

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And others can join you

tropic trail
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Wut??

meager warren
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like the archeology drake

zinc sandal
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I am so wer

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Very wer

plain vigil
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NEW The Hivemind Transforms you into the Hivemind. Other members of your Hivemind may join with you. This is a flying mount.

tropic trail
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That sounds interesting can we see what it looks like yet ?

plain vigil
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Nope

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Sadly

tropic trail
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On my phone so I doubt I can see models for anything on wowhead

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Ah :/

zinc sandal
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Zerg invasion

dense plover
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holy shit

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these zones are really done for beta

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when legion beta started, suramar didnt exist outside of being colored ground

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this is very good

plain vigil
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Found the bee mount icon!

dense plover
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theyre redoing professions

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for the entire game

plain vigil
dense plover
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at least on a basic level

plain vigil
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Bee mount icon^^^

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Could be swarm but i think its the bee one

karmic scroll
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Wait, Anduin can shape shift???

tropic trail
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Cool but bees make me cringe so hard aha

plain vigil
karmic scroll
tropic trail
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Allergic to their stings seeing their big bug eyes on a Tauren is going to be horrible

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Aha

dense plover
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we are going to plunder isle!

karmic scroll
dense plover
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pirates ahoy!

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there is a lot done for beta

plain vigil
dense plover
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i cant believe how much is done

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we are definitely going to see this expac this year

plain vigil
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@dense plover obviously

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Thats been know

dense plover
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its been assumed

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now its pretty obvious

plain vigil
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Pre orders should begin on the 30th of jan, meaning we get a release date

zinc sandal
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Take my money

rich apex
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F for the PTR channel

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But beta hyyype

zinc sandal
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I’m extra hype

uncut vault
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F

wild pewter
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Very excited 😃

uncut vault
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we had good salt there

plain vigil
dense plover
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Zandalari dinosaurs is a faction

zinc sandal
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Is that...

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What I think it is?

plain vigil
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Beany hat? Yup

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There’s 3 others as well

zinc sandal
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O_O

rich apex
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Beany hat? I can RP a hipster?

plain vigil
rich apex
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Nice

plain vigil
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Then there’s a third thats pretty much the same model

dense plover
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arent they like old seaman beany hats?

zinc sandal
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Hobo tmog incoming

plain vigil
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Yup

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@dense plover

rich apex
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Yes, there was one in the trailer

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But let me have my amusement at Kul'tiran hispters 😛

plain vigil
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^^^

dense plover
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holy shit

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the profession changes

plain vigil
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Run around with the mug for a weapon, ask people for french presses

dense plover
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all of the professions are gonna be useful

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enchants are coming back

plain vigil
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Yuppers

dense plover
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engineering has useful stuff

plain vigil
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And tailors get to make banners

dense plover
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and it looks like it will be useful while leveling too

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which is one of the main complaints from many people

zinc sandal
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It’s like we’re going back in time but things actually being done right

rich apex
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Ooh, professon stat squish

dense plover
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maybe

plain vigil
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Yuppers

dense plover
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its unclear

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if they do cap it at 100

plain vigil
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Lw’s get their nice armor patches, and i get to buy guns for wayyyy too much money

dense plover
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im not sure how they plan to do skill gaining

wild pewter
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Will more stuff be posted about? I assume it's being organised atm

dense plover
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yes

plain vigil
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Well it looks like they are turning the old matts into a zone based like they did with enchants

dense plover
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once they get all the cool stuff, they are going to go back through and get all of the models they can

plain vigil
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Posts have been updating every few/10 mins

dense plover
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once beta actually launches, then we will get ingame stuff

plain vigil
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I just wanna see the new pet mode- TO PETOPIA

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Nevermind

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Petopia has no updates

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Rip

dense plover
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also, zandalari mount is a direhorn

rich apex
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Petopia doesn't have the swanky paid staff of Wowhead, I bet 😛

dense plover
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i still dont have one, so im excited to get one thats going to be higher res than the others and have shiny golden armor

zinc sandal
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Yes

elder otter
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Never been described as swanky before. I like it.

plain vigil
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U ez swanky good sir!

dense plover
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someone ping me when they start uploading the dinosaur models

rich apex
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Getting paid to do WoW stuff without working for Blizz is pretty swanky

dense plover
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sorry wowhead team

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MUSICS

rich apex
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Awww yeah

dense plover
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oh my god

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its so good

rich apex
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Peach gets banned for linking competition

dense plover
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dungeon music

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generic BFA music seems to be a mix

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either zone music or login music

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then theres some zone specific music

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for drustvar and nazmir

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which means those are probably the first zones they are going to test in beta

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the first song is very witcher-esque

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which makes some sense considering the identity of zones like drustvar

plain vigil
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The style of the kultirans is based on germany yes?

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Cause those witches look like a certain disney villan

dense plover
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drustvar is

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and they do focus on boats and sausage

rich apex
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TO ME, SONS OF SIGMAR

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Wait, wrong German fantasy

dense plover
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so yeah, germany

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that part of the world

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considering normal humans are medieval

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and gilneans are victorian

rich apex
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I'm sure they'll borrow an assortment of stock tropes

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Drustvar is the creepy witches woods

dense plover
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im so glad we dont have the legion theme in the background of every song now

plain vigil
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Just sayin

dense plover
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its a crone

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same source for disney and wow

plain vigil
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The german style helmets fit as well

rich apex
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The KT armor from Blizzcon looks snazzy as hell, yes

plain vigil
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The middle one

dense plover
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listen to this one

terse patrol
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Dude

dense plover
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its the same one from the trailer

terse patrol
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I am complete. There’s a place on Kul Tiras called...

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The Salty Spitoon

dense plover
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lol

rich apex
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LOL

zinc sandal
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My new home.

rich apex
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Are you sure you're man enough

zinc sandal
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Did you just

dense plover
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mamas boy

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go to weeney hut jrs

terse patrol
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Local Kul Tirans in line for entrance

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When a pair of Hordies try to get in

plain vigil
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That Gmod game makes a lot mor sense now...

dense plover
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this is the other one from the trailer

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it uses the harpsichord

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last time they used that instrument was all the way back in vanilla with the karazhan opera house music

#

such a good instrument

zinc sandal
#

WoW going back to its roots in many ways

dense plover
#

god, the freehold music is such a great mix of pirate and adventure music

plain vigil
#

Sooo Dwarves - Scottish/Irish blend Lordaeron - MURICA’/Romans Gilneas -Brits Kul’Tirans German Vry’kul- Norse/Denmark/Norway

#

Accurate?

dense plover
#

kultirans arent french

#

and dwarves are more scottish than irish

plain vigil
#

But all the water stuffs

dense plover
#

lordaron we dont know much about

#

water stuff is more english than french in the way it is used

#

french water stuff was a lot less rough and tumble

plain vigil
#

Lordaeron based on religion accent and armor id say roman american

#

Fixed

dense plover
#

lordaron has an accent?

#

when have we heard what they sound like?

#

all we have are undead

#

and all undead sound the same

plain vigil
#

Lordaeron and stormwind never separated kingdoms

dense plover
#

<@&299347348847329281>

#

thx

plain vigil
#

Thanks!

dense plover
#

so

#

classic pirate music anyone?

#

also

plain vigil
#

Also known as subtle polka

dense plover
#

drustvar music is in the same creepy style that luigi's mansion used

#

using the same chord style

plain vigil
#

French^

dense plover
#

it has that halloween vibe

plain vigil
#

Calling it now

dense plover
#

pirate music isnt french

#

its irish

plain vigil
#

No luigis mansion!

dense plover
#

oh

#

the halloween type sound is actually english i believe

#

early victorian

plain vigil
#

Pirate is subtle polka with flair

dense plover
#

pirate doesnt come from polka

#

pirate music is in 6/8 and actually comes from irish ballads and dance tunes

plain vigil
#

It sounds like polka music

dense plover
#

yes

#

they are both in 6/8

#

different origins

#

uses the accordian

plain vigil
#

I never said it came from polka 😂

dense plover
#

you said it was polka

#

it isnt

plain vigil
#

I didnt mean it was actual polka

dense plover
#

polka requires a deep bassline using a brass instrument like the tuba

#

such as the muppet theme

#

well not neccesarily bassline

#

but it has a constant repeating bass

plain vigil
dense plover
#

yeah

#

english and french architecture of the 15th/16th century are inspired by each other

#

english took some french stuff

#

france took some english stuff

plain vigil
#

Mainly just the hilly part is my focus here...

#

That and the color tones

dense plover
#

i mean

#

limestone

#

its what stone was in europe

plain vigil
dense plover
#

ehhh

#

english shore towns look similar

#

its more complex than just one group

#

all of europe is a heavy influence

zinc sandal
#

That human child looks fantastic

plain vigil
#

French castle^^^

terse patrol
#

I wang to see some dang racials for Dark Irons and Zandalari

plain vigil
#

They’re supposed to look as similar to gilnean architecture as french is to english, but with German steel roofing theme

compact wadi
#

dont we all

plain vigil
#

@dense plover

uncut vault
#

everyone calls everything in the damn game french

plain vigil
#

France and Germany are connected, which is why they used both styles here

#

Dwarves - Scottish/Irish blend, Lordaeron - MURICA’/Romans, Gilneas -Brits, Kul’Tirans German/French Vry’kul- Norse/Denmark/Norway

#

Nelfs- Japanese Pandaran- Chinese

dense plover
#

so zuldazar is big as hell

#

like not suramar sized

#

but definitely larger than ogrimmar

#

also, seems like the zulaman zone or whatever it is, is very not finished

#

but theres a lot more detail than in any first beta/alpha

#

also, theres an island with a giant dinosaur skeleton

uncut vault
#

looks like one of shen zin su's species died there

plain vigil
#

I just realized blizz never added an east islander race, unless you say the naga are...

dense plover
#

also

#

nazmir is definitely the most finished

deep frigate
#

Murlocs

dense plover
#

supporting my hypothesis that if they do the zone unlock system again, nazmir will be the zone for zandalar

#

probably followed by the desert

#

oh shit

#

there IS a giant dead turtle

#

wonder what the story there will be

worldly ember
#

Did I read this wrong or are they getting rid of mages blink next expac?

dense plover
#

you probably read wrong

#

calling it now that the big temple next to the giant turtle is possibly titan related

worldly ember
#

Cause the way I'm reading, it looks like they're making it a stun breaker and the shimmer talent makes you actually teleport

dense plover
#

it has a large road that leads off into nowhere suggesting it may have been part of the path system that went from wyrmrest temple to a whole bunch of other places

plain vigil
#

Tailors can craft a hot air balloon lw craft scuba suits...

dense plover
#

not to mention theres another one in the desert

plain vigil
#

Link?

dense plover
#

theres a warfront in the barrens

#

i linked further up

#

barrens warfront seems to have an alliance outpost in that swamp next to the barrens

plain vigil
#

Nuke town?

dense plover
#

is that where that was?

#

if so, yes

#

also, boralus is pretty big too

#

drustvar is also the most finished zone

#

again makes sense considering the demo at blizzcon

#

least finished on KT actually seems to be that grassy zone in the north

uncut vault
#

mechagnome island has me hyped as a gnome fan

#

yeah northern half of stormsong valley is definitely unfinished

final vault
#

Gnomes?

#

Amazing

uncut vault
dense plover
#

seems like there are a lot of island variations

#

which is good

#

one of them has a volcano

final vault
#

Oooo

dense plover
#

looks like they are either currently testing their AI using battlegrounds

#

or that will be part of the alpha/beta

#

fyi, demonhunters still have warglaives

#

there are new ones

rich apex
#

Ooh

#

That is nice

dense plover
#

theres a brontosaurus mount

#

its going to be the new mammoth

#

i will do whatever it takes to get it

#

i will pay so much or work so hard

#

gib NAO

#

also, theres a mount icon for that weird insect the snakes ride

#

so thats cool too

plain vigil
#

@uncut vault looks like the volcano from the goblin start zone :3

dense plover
tacit vine
#

brontosaurus confirmed?

plain vigil
#

I will say BEE mount again

radiant shale
#

When do you guys think invites will start going out? I have an idea but im not sure.

dense plover
#

new loading screen

rich apex
#

Soon (TM)

dense plover
#

beta announcement probably tomorrow

#

with the QA

#

start

#

who knows

radiant shale
#

yeah i was thinking that tbh

#

also its weird that there is maintenance tomorrow as well 🤔

dense plover
#

no it isnt

#

with all of the bugs, maintenance is very important to push bigger changes that require server restarts

#

they dont need maintenance for preorder

#

all of the stuff that would need to be added is already in the game just needs to be unencrypted and maybe requires a short server restart

fading lintel
radiant shale
#

yeah your right peach im just to excited

dense plover
#

well heres a safe tip

#

dont be too esxcited

#

that way if something doesnt happen, you wont be disappointed

tropic trail
#

What's the video ? ^^

dense plover
#

i didnt expect this datamining

radiant shale
#

yeah same here

dense plover
#

and now im excited

rich apex
#

^

radiant shale
#

im not expecting the beta to be out like next week lol but i have a feeling its soon

rough lion
#

oh so beta isnt pout yet

teal meteor
#

anduin is still a priest he's just transmoged with paladin gear, that meanscross-class moging

tropic trail
#

It's being datamined but it's not out to people yet @rough lion 😃

rich apex
#

Anduin's still a priest because he clearly does not have sword or heavy armor proficiency in the cinematic

deep frigate
#

he used to be a hunter before he rerolled

rich apex
#

looks at Genn

tacit vine
#

cuts his head

olive mirage
#

i want the new crafting stuff

#

looks at legion engineering

misty blaze
#

i hope we can pre purchase soon

uncut vault
#

Trolls are so THICC they turn me on

elder otter
#

ehhhhhhh

#

Can keep those thoughts to yourself @uncut vault

uncut vault
#

No shame

tacit vine
#

I support

desert oxide
#

has no one looked at the Zandalari female and male feet? the females have a random lone toe on their heel while the males have no random toe.

deep frigate
#

that must be an annoying toenail to trim

elder otter
mental onyx
#

Someone explain to me where is this alleged build deployed

frigid umbra
#

What do you mean? Its friends and family alpha

elder otter
#

alleged?

frigid umbra
#

Beta could be live in a month or 2

#

If not sooner

final vault
#

Poor wowhead dataminers

#

No sleeps for them

rich apex
#

Maybe Wowhead and MMO Champ typed all this shit up themselves for a giggle

frigid umbra
#

Lol mrgm, your talking... go make some videos about it

#

You're*

elder otter
#

Like we've got that kind of time on our hands lol

dense plover
#

Nazjatar is tagged as a location

#

Patch 8.1 probably considering azshara is raid 2

rich apex
#

But no Teldrassil scenario 🤔

#

(unless I missed it)

elder fjord
#

so this build is only accessable to people with beta access right lol

#

in 12 years ive never gotten a beta invite rip

long wyvern
#

Only beta i've played was MoP but only due to pre-orders being able to opt-in as well

elder fjord
#

i dont think i was able to get into that

#

and ive pre ordered all of em

#

rip lol

dense plover
#

There is no beta

#

Build isn’t playable at all

#

It’s just on a data server

elder fjord
#

i mean when its launched

dense plover
#

Also, @rich apex there is no teldrassil scenario, there is an u deficits scenario, and probably a cutscene for teldrassil

elder fjord
#

im just hoping for a beta invite this time round

dense plover
#

This is probably alpha

#

But if it is beta, we will know Tuesday

olive mirage
elder fjord
#

oh interesting

deft sable
#

wait is the beta out now

#

like

#

people can get in

elder fjord
#

not yet just datamine stuff

desert totem
#

so..much..burst..of..info

#

course i'm pretty much stuck on the music atm xD

#

lot of it feels very warcraft 2 remixy

balmy heart
#

I'll have to admit that I rather like Jaina's new model

shy oriole
#

How can I get to beta?! 😭

#

I tried for the last expansion begikng pracically xD

#

Well expansions..

deep frigate
#

Go into battlenet account options, check the beta interest box, and pray >_>

shy oriole
#

😭 probably nothi. Like always

tropic trail
#

I got a mail

shy oriole
#

😭

#

Lucky then

tropic trail
#

Yesss

shy oriole
#

Congratulations..

#

😦

tropic trail
#

But the shittiest is.. Is that I don't play WoW that often GWskarzzLUL

shy oriole
#

Gah I have free time while I’m recovering and I can’t play it

tropic trail
#

Hahah

shy oriole
#

I went to a dentist day and day for the last month xD extractions and next week I got a surgery xD my mouth is sscrewed

tropic trail
shy oriole
#

Ahh! Sorry

tropic trail
#

😛

shy oriole
#

Bfa spoiler; it’s awesome

#

Where do i check for it?

elder nimbus
#

is BfA on the PTR going on atm ?

floral rain
#

No.

elder nimbus
floral rain
#

It's Alpha so only a select few gets in

elder nimbus
#

alright, ty

shy oriole
#

:c

floral rain
#

And I know streamers/youtubers that will get in. #Mediabenefits

elder otter
#

This is just datamining from game files released last night. Blizzard hasn't, to our knowledge, opened up any alpha testing or anything yet.

#

We're not in there playing the game or anything 😛

floral rain
#

Sorry, I'm still waking up so my brain isn't functional

desert totem
#

Yeah< i would expect a beta announcement maybe around the Q&A

#

other than that, I don't know anyone playing it that isn't in house employee / family

shy oriole
#

I wish for it.

mental onyx
#

What does it mean "released" last night? Released to where? There is PTR server , but this is not on PTR

deep frigate
#

Not a public test realm

elder nimbus
#

all I want is to be able to finally pre-order so I get that out of the way kek

elder otter
#

There's a beta server as well.

shy oriole
#

beta that i won't get an invite to again.. It's a shame that mostly the famous people get it.

eternal sentinel
#

Mount for Zandalari troll

balmy heart
#

For when you want to ride your Hunter friend's dinosaur...

eternal sentinel
#

Yeah 😄 i like the color and the effect of the ligth on the gold part looks great

balmy heart
#

Oh

#

Upgrading the town hall

#

So many hours spent on playing the Warcraft RTSes

eternal sentinel
#

Yeah but reward for world quest ? is weird maybe they talk about this at the q&a

true matrix
#

A BEE

rapid osprey
true matrix
#

I shall have it and I shall call it fuzzbutt and I shall love it dearly

balmy heart
#

I would be far too tempted to say aloud to myself (at the very least) upon mounting that bee "A BEE?!" in as close to an impersonation of NintendoCapriSun as I can manage.

deep frigate
#

Bees. My god.

true matrix
#

[cards against humanity voice] Bees?

#

oh wow that hyena looks sweet

#

BABY PIG

#

new kitties

tropic trail
#

I WANT THE BEE MOUNT NOW

rapid osprey
#

BEE READY

floral rain
#

Holy shit

#

My hype levels

tropic trail
#

I love bees

livid walrus
long wyvern
#

Haha, that's awesome

#

The same symbols however that have been showing up in OG etc.

livid walrus
#

og?

mint arch
#

we have been moved :o

tropic trail
#

Why is Jainas hair white?

mint arch
#

theramore bomb incident

#

"The effect still alters her, turning most of her hair white and her eyes silvery "

#

she escapes the bomb but it affects her still

#

*radiation

#

magic radiation

tropic trail
#

🤔 Oh, i dont pay much attention to "Alliance" since im horde.

mint arch
#

ya, the alliance scenario plays out after the horde on for thermaore

#

As is, the horde bombs theramore with the mana bomb they reverse engineered from Kael'thas' forces in the burning crusade, further amplified using the focusing iris. It obliterates theramore, killing everyone (many big Alliance names among them) but Jaina survives due to getting a last second ward on her from Rhonin.

The effect still alters her, turning most of her hair white and her eyes silvery and of course the trauma of seeing her apprentice and much of her small realm flattened leaves her less charitable to the horde.

#

^basic summary

tropic trail
#

Oh, so she is a raid leader who blames the raid not the person.

mint arch
#

well, she's basically traumatized cause she saw basically everyone she loved, cared and whatnot all die due to the bomb

#

blizzard said we would see more of her story in BFA and seek to help her

tropic trail
#

ok

dusky ginkgo
#

I need that osprey. And also a baby komodo dragon. Several baby komodo dragons.

long wyvern
#

@livid walrus Orgrimmar

dusky ginkgo
#

Hope we have some of these new models horses with a tack on, too.

tropic trail
#

Reading Tides of War is much better

#

If you wanna know Jaina

mint arch
#

jaina-chan

tropic trail
#

Jaina thicc

#

Jaina Poundmemoore.

#

So, any confirmation about Allied Rasus yet?

mint arch
#

jaina 'elsa' poundmemoore

#

nothing yet

sly hull
#

Bwonsamdi looks pretty cool

zinc sandal
#

Pig Man is totally using Therazane’s skeleton

true matrix
#

so many skeletons

#

chinese WoW is gonna have a field day

zinc sandal
#

Bread loaves for everybody

#

Loaves...loafs? BREAD.

true matrix
#

time to fight the Bread Golems

zinc sandal
#

Chinese Kul’Tirans are actually Bread Hunters

true matrix
#

(look these aren't up on wowhead yet I'm sorry ok)

tropic trail
#

Thicc!

true matrix
#

ok just one more

#

I WANT THIS CAT

#

I want this doggo too

dense plover
#

Fat cat!!!

long wyvern
#

That male Kul'tiran model reminds me of Chris Metzen somehow khadgarface

dense plover
#

Zandalari flight form

true matrix
#

@long wyvern it's the shape of the facial hair

dense plover
#

And travel form

strange falcon
#

u may say that those are too cool,but nothing beats a moose as travel form,not even a dinosaur

dense plover
#

New dino models not on wowhead

#

Threshadon

#

Thunder Lizard

#

Wind Serpent

#

Trex Loa

runic vault
#

Woah

#

those are awesome

dense plover
#

Some of them are especially useful because they are going to replace models in the old world

#

All of those outside of the loa exist in the old world with models dating back to warcraft 3 for some of them

strange falcon
#

u seen the zandalari druid forms? @dense plover

dense plover
#

I linked them silly

strange falcon
#

but still nothing will ever beat moose travel form,not even dinosaurs

dense plover
#

I don’t think we have the other Druid form models yet

#

They should still have a bear, cat, and moon kin form

runic vault
#

I swear, if Feral is not a primal sabertooth, I am done

dense plover
#

Well it won’t be a dino

#

We were told travel form was a Dino and that’s it

strange falcon
#

@runic vault but why,you'll be using artifact skin on feral forever

runic vault
#

And bear should totally be some kind of komono dragon-esque form

#

I know Dafire

#

but still

dense plover
#

Bear is gonna be a bear

#

They said so

runic vault
#

Damn, was just hoping for something really cool like that

strange falcon
#

also you can be a sabertooth with the balance of power skin

dense plover
#

I mean they could surprise us

#

But I doubt it

runic vault
#

Yes, just like they will surprise 80% of people with the BFA Preorder on Tuesday the 30th

#

MAKE IT HAPPEN BLIZZ, I NEED MY NIGHTBORN

strange falcon
#

@runic vault m8,theres a developer Q&A on 30,what better time

#

to drop preorder

zinc sandal
#

@dense plover You’re getting sued by Wowhead

dense plover
#

Nah

mint arch
#

blizzard art team are, as always, amazing

dense plover
#

Linking to mmo champ is ok when it’s not on wowhead

zinc sandal
#

Did you see thinn hooman?

frigid umbra
#

Sue... no...... mute or ban... sure

true matrix
#

I can't believe blizzard made a male human model that isn't 400 pounds of beef

deep frigate
#

looks like female undead base

#

from the posture

dense plover
#

Look at the thin human

#

It’s weird

zinc sandal
#

I kinda like it, but the hunch....

#

Blizzard has a hunch fetish

deep frigate
#

Forsaken model hunch

#

I'm positive those skinny human dudes are using the female forsaken skeleton

zinc sandal
#

I want to play a Tentacle Face Priest

#

Blizzard pls

#

Also I’m still waiting to see what The Hivemind is

mint arch
#

hmm, would Jaina qualify as a silver fox?

zinc sandal
#

No

#

Only men are silver foxes

true matrix
#

I think she's a bit too young for that

#

her mother, probably

mint arch
#

she's got the silver fox look though

true matrix
#

a little ye

true matrix
tropic trail
#

Damn. I knew they'd nerf Demon Hunters, but 70% less leech seems harsh

true matrix
#

flight_of_the_bumblebee.mp3

mint arch
#

our leech :<

zealous silo
#

The nerfs have to do with the item/stat squish mostly

tropic trail
#

It's a percentage squish

#

Regardless of your stats, you'd leech a maximum of 100% before, which is 30% now. The nerfs to % damage that scales with stats is because of the stat squish yeah

true matrix
tropic trail
#

rip talbuk

peak sedge
#

Anything on dark iron dwarf mount?

zinc sandal
#

Is that Satan?

tropic trail
#

Not seeing one Marshall

peak sedge
#

Racials for trolls?

tropic trail
#

Only icons so far

#

And names

peak sedge
#

Darn

#

Looks like im making a zandalari druid and HM druid:)

zinc sandal
#

^

#

Looks like I’m making every single allies race

peak sedge
#

I dont like the VE sooo

#

Or the LF

raw matrix
#

has beta invites gone out yet?

peak sedge
#

Dont look very cool

#

Not yet

#

Soon hopefully @raw matrix

raw matrix
#

ah okay

#

I opted into beta hopefully I get an invite

zinc sandal
#

Apparently The Hivemind looks like Yogg-Saron's brain but turned into a mount

marble zealot
#

I am loving looking at all of the new items and changes (-:

strange falcon
zinc sandal
#

I need them to be playable.

plucky garden
#

I saw the picture of the Tauren Skeleton and my mind went to "Serious Sam"

gilded drum
#

Do we have anything on the new masteries yet?

minor ingot
#

@gilded drum go to the mastery spell you want to check and change the URL to bfa.wowhead.com/....

meager warren
#

...Tauren.. skeleton?

#

i'm in love

minor ingot
tight wagon
#

marks and survival hunter rework

#

i fucking love it

uncut vault
#

I'd consider marksmanship more of a revert, but I love it nonetheless

zinc sandal
#

Is Survival going to get any better in BfA?

harsh grail
#

Seems like it

mint arch
#

but DH are getting a few new tools and such

dusky ginkgo
#

Survival stay melee right?

mint arch
#

believe so, ya

dense plover
#

Survival are becoming a hybrid

#

Mix between range and melee

#

Moving back and forth

deft latch
#

meaning survival is becoming vanilla hunter

rich apex
#

I can dig it. Surv needs a tuneup.

uncut vault
#

I mean, squid people isn't something DnD came up with.

mental onyx
#

I think that mind flyers reference

rich apex
#

^

#

That's what I meant

#

And D&D borrowed most of its stuff from somewhere else, yes, that's how fantasy writing works 😛

uncut vault
#

Looks like one, sure. Saying the dev team is influnced by mind flayers in DnD, doubt it.

rich apex
#

Also armor models when

uncut vault
#

I hope soon. I need to see that mageplate looking warfront set

#

somethings not quite right

rich apex
#

Yeah, where's my pally horse retexture

terse patrol
#

Crawgs. TOTALLY not Squigs. Honestz

rich apex
#

Is that the blood troll blob?

terse patrol
#

@rich apex

rich apex
#

Yes, that one

#

I want that squig mount

#

Unf

terse patrol
#

Official goblin mount.

zinc sandal
#

No bat mount

#

So sad

gilded drum
#

So what are the predictions for release date now that beta is “out”?

#

I was told beta won’t be for another few months at least so I was curious.

zinc sandal
#

At this point? Anywhere from tomorrow to never lol

gilded drum
#

Lol tru

tropic trail
#

man I hope they don't change Windwalker mastery

#

It's the best one in the game

gilded drum
#

I don’t think they will tbh.

#

It’s a very unique and interesting part of the spec

tropic trail
#

yeah, unfortunately the new talents looks like there's still gonna be a clear winner

gilded drum
#

I’m actually not digging how Paladin looks talent wise rn.

tropic trail
#

Especially since I hate Storm, Earth and Fire so will always go Serenity even if it's a 10% DPS drop and you need the other talents as fillers :I

gilded drum
#

The last talent tier is all very important big abilities

tropic trail
#

They need to add back the speed boost from Judgment

zinc sandal
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I play SPriest and I'm not sure how I feel.

tropic trail
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Glad they removed autobubble

gilded drum
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Hey at least you don’t die to StM

zinc sandal
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I feel...void

gilded drum
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I love autobubble

mint arch
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v o i d o x

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v o i d

gilded drum
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Who needs to do mechanics when you can bubble

mint arch
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accept mah power

zinc sandal
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🐙 🦑

gilded drum
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The Survival changes look super promising imo

tropic trail
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I wish Insanity worked more like Energy/Focus, so you could enter Void Form instantly and could heal/dispell using Insanity

zinc sandal
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Ew no

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Keep those two away from me

tropic trail
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Why not?

gilded drum
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Because it’s just

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It doesn’t feel good lol

zinc sandal
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I hate that resource mechanic, so clunky

gilded drum
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The building and spending of insanity is really nice feeling

zinc sandal
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^

gilded drum
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Focus and Energy feels clunky

tropic trail
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It would still drain in Void Form, it's only for those few seconds you're outside of Void Form

gilded drum
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I think insanity is fine as is

zinc sandal
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Yeah

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At least it's not mana.

gilded drum
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Lol tru

zinc sandal
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hoo boy

tropic trail
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Well they do have mana, which sucks

gilded drum
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Yeah but they don’t use it

zinc sandal
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Except for Shadow Mend, and Shield

gilded drum
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I have a Mana as a Ret Pally

tropic trail
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I use it for Power Word: Shield for movement, which then makes me unable to use Mass Dispell

gilded drum
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That’s not your job

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Imo

tropic trail
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It is in PvP

gilded drum
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True

tropic trail
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It's very strong, but it's weird choosing between dispell and movement

gilded drum
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Then uhh. Get good I guess?

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Needing mana in 2018

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Meanwhile I can only cast like

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4-5 Flash of Lights and I’m oom

tropic trail
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the things they did to Arcane look pretty good

gilded drum
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Lol

zinc sandal
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XD

gilded drum
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I haven’t looked at mage

tropic trail
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they put the old mastery on Arcane Missiles and removed the cooldown from Evocation

zinc sandal
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Did they fix Survival?

gilded drum
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Uhh kinda!

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*?

zinc sandal
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Ohlord

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So they didn't

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ok