beta-ptr-spoilers

[zealous sedge]

I wanna see some legion remix in action

[pulsar minnow]

my only hope with a Denathrius Expansion or whatever is that they don't villain bat Lothraxion

I really like the idea of one singular Nathrazeim that's just a nice guy

[zealous sedge]

Yeah would be a shame to make him a bad guy

[pulsar minnow]

hopefully they finally give us the other recolors of the tier 2 remastered sets

[zealous sedge]

Ohh yes

[pulsar minnow]

similar to how the trading post recolors were in MOP remix

[deep pawn]

Hmm,I hope we don't just get another recolor of those 3 pieces sets

They're hell to match

[zealous sedge]

Btw 15 new characters lots is insane they must be hooking into Microsoft’s legion of data centers

[deep pawn]

5

[zealous sedge]

Oh is it 5

lol

[deep pawn]

They showed 5 characters even

[zealous sedge]

Someone said 15 whoops

[pulsar minnow]

I remember a while back we saw the paladin recolor in the trailer for anniversary too- this one but HD

[zealous sedge]

5 is still good

[deep pawn]

I want an hd version of the red paladin tier 1

[pulsar minnow]

that set definitely needs some love

[deep pawn]

TBC had a bunch of amazing recolors in dungeons

Honestly kinda sad Blizzard never continued that trend

[pulsar minnow]

oh wait good point. That recolor was from TBC... so it would kinda make sense for it to be in lemix

[deep pawn]

But we get recolors when content is current I guess

[zealous sedge]

Yall remember the shadowy figure in mop remix? That was Xal right? Presumably

I wonder if they’ll include any lore Easter eggs in lemix

[deep pawn]

We never figured out who the shadowy guy in MoP remix was right?

[pulsar minnow]

it would be such a miss to not give Priest players new whispers from Xal

[zealous sedge]

As a shadow priest I agree

Yeah I don’t think we ever figured it out but it was implied I think

I’m curious if they will try to make more of the shadowy figure. But it’s risky business in my mind making lore in a limited time event

[pulsar minnow]

By the time the event is out we’ll already know a lot of details about midnight

I’m 100% convinced she’s going to make a remark about the Nightwell for priest players in remix

[sleek solar]

How powerfull is the Nightwell compared to, for example, the Sunwell?

[uncut vault]

Well, it’s gone now, but during Legion it had roughly the same strength and application: font of power to sate elven addiction to magic, conduit to open a portal to the nether, impenetrable barrier around its surrounding regions

[sleek solar]

For some reason I thought the NW still existed. Thanks for the lore explanation! 😄

[deep pawn]

Nah, once the Arcandor could sustain their addiction they wound it down to prevent another demon invasion

[zealous sedge]

I like how they are phasing the legion remix content

Maybe it could’ve been 1 week instead of 2 weeks

But nevertheless I like it

[dense plover]

not exactly

it was sustained by one of the pillars of creation

the kirin tor took the relic and then it became unstable so they allowed it to die

[deep pawn]

They were offered the eye back

I skipped a step, because it didn't really matter

[sullen dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-11976573199386771393

[warm topaz]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228403/kick-off-gamescom-2025-with-opening-night-live

[warm topaz]

that doesn't sound TOO bad

[tulip sun]

Im sorry but I just cant with this 😂 😂

The fact the Horde is only there to let our next generation be taught by the alliance

[upper pasture]

“Both factions gets blood elves and void elves” yeah okay but like basically the game already functions like that

[warm topaz]

thats why it could be real LOL

[lone mantle]

I do not have confidence that any content posted on this forum is authentic.

[obtuse vine]

What do we think, personally I don’t see hero classes happening but it’s definately a better quality leak than the others

[warm topaz]

what a leak season lol

why would you use an image of a Paladin with the dk artifact weapon

[pulsar minnow]

I really hope not

I heard it happened in ESO and everyone collectively seemed to despise it

Also that leak’s zones make this sound more like a human expansion than an elf expansion

Would be super weird since it’s being advertised as a Quel Thalas expansion not a Lordaeron expansion

[tulip sun]

Yeah thays definitely too much for one expansion zonewise

[upper pasture]

4 zones too much? that's the normal?

[little hound]

Sounds like another fake leak, oh well. We'll see on reveal

This alone shows how fake it is.

Fel DEVOURS Arcane, which is what their bodies are made out of. Fel-Infused ethereal would just straight up become unstable and die 😄

Felhunters are another instance , as they eat magic/arcane to become stronger/larger.

[clear apex]

"EtherAls"

[tropic trail]

Dude created account like always 🤣

[upper ermine]

Hot take but alliance blood elves sound dumb. At least call them high elves, the only real difference is faction association anyways

[zealous sedge]

idk how they would even begin to balance such a thing

[zealous sedge]

There will be another elf race hidden away that we knew nothing about haha

[upper ermine]

Isn't that just the Haronir

[zealous sedge]

Yeah basically

Also Arathi

[upper ermine]

Man I love the Arathi

Feel like the only "good" human faction I like

[zealous sedge]

The only other “pure” elves would be the Quel’ dorei but they all dead basically

[deep pawn]

So are they not uploading a wowcast after the trailer?

Unless there's the wowcast and two other panels diving into stuff

[zealous sedge]

I’m a little confused by that post too

It says the panels are on the 21st and the 23rd

So like we’re just getting cinematic reveal on Tuesday and that’s that?

We’re time gating content reveals now? /s

The original post a couple weeks ago said deep dives following the entire show

[deep pawn]

It's possible there's still a pre-recorded wowcast on Tuesday

[zealous sedge]

Yeah that is likely

Plus articles posted on website. Then nerdy deeper dives on the panels

[deep pawn]

I just wish they'd say when the trailer and wowcast would drop

[zealous sedge]

Same

[pulsar minnow]

something worth noting

on the right side- is that new art?

[zealous sedge]

Hmm it might be

[pulsar minnow]

im gonna go out on a limb and say it is

it looks like dungeon art

[zealous sedge]

I’m guessing no ptr today

[little hound]

Arathi are closer to half-elves than elves at all.

[little hound]

That's new Silvermoon art, yes.

[little hound]

No? We're getting Cinematic reveal, Gameplay Overview, features, Housing info. Possibly a date too. And most likely pre-order coming very soon too.

[zealous sedge]

This part makes it confusing. The original post a couple weeks ago said the deep dives will happen after the show but it sounds like they are replacing that with panels in the following days. Unless they are separate things entirely.

[little hound]

Its been confirmed that we'll get a Gameplay Overview too, not just a intro cinematic and DONE.. Nah.

[deep pawn]

this reads as if they've changed that plan 😄

[little hound]

Just wait and see, alright?

[pulsar minnow]

yeah so that puts to rest the idea that Silvermoon will be destroyed lol

[little hound]

I'm suspecting a version of Silvermoon will be the main hub so.. Eeh, doubt it'll be DESTROYED but..

I'm confused..

How can this expansion take place, without the leveling zone for new Belves and questing get ducked?

[zealous sedge]

My hope is we don’t have something where Silvermoon is caught by a surprise attack by Xal. Don’t need a Dalaran 2.0 situation. This should be like a battle/ siege. I hope they progress the story in .5 and .7 in a way where we anticipate that she is going to Quel’thalas and beat her to it. Like, Alleria can’t be that dumb to not know where Xal will go next when she said “I’m going to take everything you love”?

[little hound]

I don't think it'll be an ambush.

[zealous sedge]

I hope it’s not

[little hound]

Facebook has a WoW Page where it shows that a "Voidstorm is Approaching". And based on the scale of the image we have, i think it'll be a very massive attack.

[zealous sedge]

I feel like every storyline starts with an ambush

Can we for once be on the upside and ahead even if we lose at the end of the battle? Just start me off with a different premise rather than the hero always having to put out fires.

[deep pawn]

they'll use the TBC levelling zone if they desire

remember you have to actively pick Eversong

[pulsar minnow]

it'll probably still be there. They might just phase it to the past like how they did Darkshore, Silithus, etc..

[zealous sedge]

Yeah it’ll likely just be phased

[little hound]

Most likely

[zealous sedge]

Obligatory what is happening to the dranei starting zones and the exodar

I hope the exodar gets fixed

[little hound]

It won't. You see in the Draenei Heritage questline that they plan to make Azuremyst a city instead.

There's a reason they picked apart any parts they could to make the Spaceship to take us to Argus

[zealous sedge]

Oh I see I never played through that

Ohh

[little hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9jLv26qkw

In short.

[zealous sedge]

As much as I wish they would revisit Dranei staring zones it won’t really make sense when the xpac is taking place on the other side of the world unfortunately.

It would just be neat to see the oldest zones in the game retouched.

[pulsar minnow]

Velen at the very least should be involved in this expansion in some capacity

It would be a crime not to

[deep pawn]

I do think the outland destroyed rumor is correct so they have a reason to never update it again

[zealous sedge]

I agree with that. No reason to go back to Outland

We knew it would eventually disappear into the twisting nether

Kinda sad tho

[deep pawn]

yeah, but it'll be more tragic if Xal eats it

[zealous sedge]

Would be cool to do a quest line that evacuates the people

Yeah if Xal consumes it that would crazy

I wonder if that could be part of the cinematic

Watching Xal consumes stuff on her way to Silvermoon

[upper ermine]

They said there's a gameplay trailer too which will probably show the shiny "back of the box features" like delves, skyriding (for normal mounts), and Warbands were for TWW

and the "new" zones

[pulsar minnow]

whats the outland destroyed rumor?

Sabellian and co just came from there like 2 years ago in-game

[deep pawn]

There's been some "leaks" that Outland is destroyed and that all the people there need new homes

one of the others said playable Arrakoa

[upper ermine]

I hope it isn't. I think they could tie it in pretty easy to the saga, like, this patch is about Karesh and it's worldsoul. What happened to draenor's worldsoul? The old gods are basically alien monsters and are only 4/5 of the ones sent out, what are the old gods on other planets (didn't they tease one for WoD and do nothing with it?)

[pulsar minnow]

supposedly draenor never had a world soul

Aggramar found it and saw no signs-unless they want to retcon and say he was protecting it or smth

[upper ermine]

This was the jailor's plan all along...

[little hound]

Yeah, he left the Breakers (Stone Giants) there to help against the Botani Hivemind, didn't he ?

Because he saw how the Botani were consuming the planet's regions.

[pulsar minnow]

Yes. it was going to basically cannibalize itself

and destroy the entire world

So aggramar created the breakers to fight the botani

Aggramar is just a nice guy who has a tendency to create super badass setpieces (please dont villain bat him blizz)

[upper ermine]

I don't think the titans should be evil or at least overtly evil

[pulsar minnow]

I think some among the titans are definitely evil- notably Aman'thul.

[upper ermine]

There is already an evil one, and he's in jail with Illidan

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah but this expansion alone is definitely setting up that things are not as they seem

For example just take a look at The Last Titan. The story details we have state there's a cosmic conspiracy. To go with that the logo of the expansion is a titan containment sphere with a world soul inside

[upper ermine]

If we do more titan stuff I'm begging blizz not to do another fight like eonar in antorus

[little hound]

I'm already guessing the Conspiracy there is what the Dragons already experienced: "the titans aren't as pure and good as people think."

[pulsar minnow]

well yeah

and theres likely more involved

[little hound]

I think the only Titan that's even shown to give a F about Azeroth and its life, is Eonar.

[pulsar minnow]

She's also got a bit of a relationship with Elune, so she's definitely gonna be on our side

[little hound]

Yup, as does the Winter Queen.

[pulsar minnow]

Still holding onto my theory that she was a Life World soul until Aman'thul found her planet and converted her

[pulsar minnow]

well Eonar's relationship is more romantic lol

[little hound]

True, Winter Queen and Elune are sisters so..

One aligned with Life (Elune), and the other aligned with Death (WQ)

[pulsar minnow]

my guess is that the Primus is a member of this cosmic conspiracy

he's already got ties with Aman'thul

[little hound]

I swear, Aman'thul has likely force-ordered Illidan by now

[novel zodiac]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/1956084865918505430

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

Shadows descend as the Voidstorm knocks at your doorstep.

Rise, rally, and take up arms before the light fades!

#MidnightReveal

X · Aug 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

this looks awesome

[obtuse vine]

Need to pause the frames now to see xal pre rendered

Hypeee

[ember blaze]

who the hell is that

[novel zodiac]

bro

i was about to post it

lmao

[ember blaze]

is that the jailer? 💀

[novel zodiac]

nah

that looks elven

[autumn dagger]

yeah

[novel zodiac]

so meaby halduron

he gets killed in the cinematic

so that's why alleria's the new ranger general

kekw

[ember blaze]

she looks so good

[autumn dagger]

is the sword identifiable in any way?

it kinda looks kyrian as well

[upper pasture]

looks like uhhh the warden lady no?

oh no

looks kinda like anduin in his mawsworn set?

[obtuse vine]

Where could this be….. 🤔

[autumn dagger]

nah

[ember blaze]

which one 🤔

[lavish raptor]

momy

[tropic trail]

Where u got this from? Some movie?

[novel zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ix-qCh050

[autumn dagger]

vid posted above

[obtuse vine]

I wonder if maybe this is lorthemar?

[ember blaze]

that looks like the sword 🤔

[novel zodiac]

i mean, he could get a new model

but that's definetly an elf

[obtuse vine]

I mean the sword looks similar, looks like he’s kneeling in front of her

[ember blaze]

another horde leader dying?

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[novel zodiac]

alleria new queen of Quel'thalas

[deep pawn]

He better not die right after his Marriage

[novel zodiac]

soon to be called Alleria'las

[obtuse vine]

Also zoom into her eyes

You see burning

Teldrassil 2.0

lol

[deep pawn]

But yeah that's probably Lor'themar's sword

[novel zodiac]

looks like the sunwell

[novel zodiac]

i just noticed, his hair is right there

its 100% lor'themar

[zealous sedge]

plz dont destroy my silvermoon

[novel zodiac]

you can even see the pony tail

[autumn dagger]

noooo not lorthemarrr

[zealous sedge]

sad

[deep pawn]

Thalyssra will be pregnant for that trope /hj

[zealous sedge]

maybe he wont die

maybe he will be turned into a servant

[novel zodiac]

and then we kill him

not even in a final raid

in the 12.0 raid

[autumn dagger]

I don't wanna insist with this but I think that's a kyrian

[novel zodiac]

Siege of Quel'thalas here we go

[autumn dagger]

if you search for the one hand kyrian sword

looks eerily similar

[novel zodiac]

Kyrian have blue hair

[autumn dagger]

where's the hair in the pic?

[lavish raptor]

What if it's that one side guy who's ranger general

[novel zodiac]

let me draw a circle in it

1s

[lavish raptor]

Like someone sId

[tulip sun]

Thats 100% theron

[tulip sun]

You see the ponytail and drawn sword

[novel zodiac]

he's kneeled down looking at the ground

[autumn dagger]

that's too low to be his head wth hahahaha

[zealous sedge]

yeah he's definitely kneeling and hurt

i can see a blurry ear

[autumn dagger]

if that's his back and that's his sword stuck in the ground his head is too low

[zealous sedge]

its his shoulder

[novel zodiac]

i wish i was an artist to draw him how i see it lmao

but yeah, kneeling, that's his back, shoulder, arm and sword

[obtuse vine]

I like lorthemar it would be a shame if he died tbh

[zealous sedge]

yeah but he's easy to kill off

haven't seen much of him

but yes also I like him too

[lavish raptor]

Ofc he's been doing his wife

Id also ignore the plot if I married hot tall elf lady

[zealous sedge]

lol

[autumn dagger]

These are the kyrian swords I'm reminded of

By the one on the trailer

[zealous sedge]

hmmm its kind of close

[deep pawn]

it's Lor'themars sword

the blue gem is identical

[zealous sedge]

but yeah its Lor

[deep pawn]

I'm glad she also sees being ethereal is a curse.

[autumn dagger]

No yeah I checked again it's def lor themar

Maaan not him

Another horde leader gone???

[zealous sedge]

horde is in shambles

[deep pawn]

It's possible he lives

Xal doesn't kill directly

Hell she didn't even kill Locus Walker directly, he did that himself

[zealous sedge]

yeah Xal lets people do her dirty work for her

she feeds off suffering imo not death

[deep pawn]

Lcous Walker only died cause he touched the heart

[zealous sedge]

I wonder if he is really dead

im sure he is dead

it looked painful

[deep pawn]

he poofed

[zealous sedge]

also like to be honest at the end it looked like he accepted his fate and was ok with it

[autumn dagger]

It'd be difficult for him to be alive he kinda got void corrupted at the end as well

[zealous sedge]

true

[autumn dagger]

He's probably pure void energy by now

[deep pawn]

At least we have Ve'nari's oath that she and other K'areshi will be there to help us when its time

[autumn dagger]

And he's probably gonna get dropped together with dimensius in the sunwell

[zealous sedge]

why do i feel like the dark heart is gonna be another frostmourne situation where all the sould consumed come out and help us kill xal in the end

[autumn dagger]

We'll see

[zealous sedge]

do you think she'll drop it into the sunwell to absord the sunwell's power or something else?

[deep pawn]

We'll see on Tuesday

[zealous sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/we-need-it-now-randy-marsh-south-park-informative-murder-porn-season17ep02-gif-19529653

time to go touch some grass

[autumn dagger]

Probs another kil jaeden scenario

[novel zodiac]

she didnt absorb light power with the dark heart

so meaby she needs to turn it void first

like when alleria got too close to it

[ionic terrace]

11.2.5 downloading

[ember blaze]

quick datamine for void dh

hmm looks like the ptr is live

[rain cave]

that's lorthremar definetly

I hope she fights multiple people and not just lorthremar since he's basically just a warrior, specializing in strategy

he'd get fucking demolished in a 1v1 with xal

I hope to see her fending off Lidarin, Arator, Lorthremar, maybe some other random belf characters

[little hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ix-qCh050&t

[zealous sedge]

yeah it surely won't be just lorthemar defending teh sunweel

[rain cave]

xalatath at this point is potentially the strongest villain we've fought in terms of the power in the dark heart now

and she was already a contender for most threatening just because of her tactics before

[zealous sedge]

les go

[rain cave]

but now she has brains and brawn so I'm curious to see how the f*ck we're meant to beat her

other than like, Elune deus ex machina

[zealous sedge]

1.24 gigabytes. lots of datamining coming

[rain cave]

OH I hope thalyssra is in that damn trailer

[little hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/1405654531320184972/image.png?ex=689f9d4c&is=689e4bcc&hm=b363e5e88f4dbec9c74557b13240e8457741e72cced2a01b7be9145fb91bd0a9&

THis kinda

looks like its from the reveal trailer

with flames in the back..

Silvermoon?

[warm topaz]

maybe Orgrimmar, to vanish the horde forever

[little hound]

(Please yes)

[rain cave]

watch 90% of the blood elves get wiped out and they change their name again and decide a new favourite colour and drug

[little hound]

hahah

White eyes

[harsh mason]

Oh

[zealous sedge]

we have 13 days of remix testing in ptr

[little hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/904109729188573194/1405646136831770825/image.png?ex=689f957a&is=689e43fa&hm=28cf59830053deece5f9dbdff2e09a27b924aaa60e5fde792f296551a5bf6ff0&

[zealous sedge]

if xal corrupts the sunwell i could see a faction of belves come to her to satiate their addicition with dimensius' power

[rain cave]

what are we some kind of void elves?

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

could totally see the naga being summoned to help us here

[novel zodiac]

they help us cause Azshara told them to

[tropic trail]

Haha when is the reveal exactly

[novel zodiac]

but then she betrays us

and the cycle continues

[rain cave]

there was some 'leaks' (lol) that were claiming alleria would make a deal with n'zoth in the black blade after finding it again during a search for methods to stop xal. If something like that ends up being true it would kind of make sense if N'zoth basically becomes the leader of the naga for a bit, grants them new forms to go on land and help us (making them playable)

honestly that would be a pretty organic way to introduce it

especially after the setup of how old gods can make races evolve in TWW, it is within N'zoths power to turn the naga into more humanoid forms. It's what happened to the Nerubians

(I pray it's a form shift though)

[zealous sedge]

void spec confirmed with this animation

jk jk

[lone mantle]

I had planned to go to sleep earlier, but I am quite excited about the midnight reveal.

[rain cave]

got some observing to do

[zealous sedge]

datamined housing categories do we get housing 11.2.x?

[obtuse vine]

I feel like the marketing and the hype about this expansion is just way higher than the last few, even on YouTube there’s so many new creators popping up speculating about midnight

[rain cave]

pets?

[zealous sedge]

yesss

[rain cave]

microsoft

[zealous sedge]

we're getting PC's in wow

so meta

[obtuse vine]

We are getting xboxes in wow, but not wow on Xbox

[zealous sedge]

what class should i test remix with

DH?

[rain cave]

but does it play skyrim

[zealous sedge]

probably the best choice

[rain cave]

are the artifact spec trees up?

for the different elements

[zealous sedge]

im not in yet ill let you know

[rain cave]

maybe test a multi role class

[zealous sedge]

they said we wont test everything

[rain cave]

since I think I saw different effects for different specs

[zealous sedge]

oh good idea

[rain cave]

also curious if hero talents apply?

[zealous sedge]

hmm probably yes

since we'll be converting our character

[rain cave]

frostfire fel mage incoming lol

[deep pawn]

January 20th is gonna be prepatch, that lines up

[pulsar minnow]

If they kill lor themar i might lose my mind

[rain cave]

noticing a trend...

[rain cave]

lets kill this side character that has never had the spotlight in the expansion where he could finally get some

[ember blaze]

when did memix end for tww

[rain cave]

if they're killing anyone it should be fucking tyrande

[tropic trail]

Man thalyssra gonna get widow pension 💀

[rain cave]

just because I want to see how the story would get shaken up after the reliance on the stormrages as the representatives for nelve's being so stable

[pulsar minnow]

Nightmare timeline:

Lor’themar dies and Alleria becomes Queen Regent

[rain cave]

expansion opening we killed all the horde characters and arator but now alleria is the main character and tyrande is there with sylvanas and anduin and thrall and jaina

[pulsar minnow]

Im for alleria rejoining the blood elves in silvermoon but replacing lor themar might be the worst option

Unless they want this gut punch of “oh look he just got married and was happy” and make Thalyssra go apeshit

[rain cave]

tbf angry thalyssra would be hilarious

[pulsar minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/oceanmam-bird-staring-gif-21593664

[deep pawn]

Remix ended the day before TWW launched, but I think because Midnight has a stat squish they'll end it earlier

[rain cave]

I feel she would move planets for revenge

lorthremar too but he'd have to get other people to do it

[deep pawn]

There's no way we have Prepatch in December

[rain cave]

being a tactician and all

[novel zodiac]

is the stat squish confirmed?

[pulsar minnow]

Thalyssra widow arc would have her dropping the biggest mana bomb ever on Xal atath’s face

[deep pawn]

yes, was confirmed at last Blizzcon

[novel zodiac]

oh, i dont remember that, ty

[deep pawn]

But yeah, the 8 week cadence doesn't leave room for an expansion launch in January

so that has to be prepatch

[clear apex]

ooooh

[rain cave]

this looks like it's in the sunwell room

or alteast the silvermoon throne room

[clear apex]

it was harder to catch this frame

[deep pawn]

TURKEY MOUNT

[lavish raptor]

Tur'key the Cacophonous

[deep pawn]

"Cerulean Phase-Hunter. "Due to otherworldly energies that transformed Draenor into Outland these creatures have the ability to shift through space. They are very rarely seen since the transformation of Draenor." Source: Promotion."

TUSKARR MOOSE MOUNTS

[warm topaz]

okay hear me out, it's just me or this looks different style than wow cinematics?

it looks less real

maybe they did it on purpose cause what we see from the elf looks the same

[clear apex]

it does seem less refined

[sleek solar]

I wonder if we are going to AU Draenor for Yrels forces

Or if someone gets her

[pulsar minnow]

It’s also maybe because Xal is an elf and they just naturally break the uncanny valley effect

[clear apex]

Idk about that the timeline might have already collapsed

[pulsar minnow]

Whereas Anduin looked genuinely real because he is human

[dense plover]

are the artifact weapons all the same?

they seem like they might be beyond the small nodes

[clear apex]

in this her hair isnt as "look you can see every strand"

like usual, though i did watch the SL cinematic and even Sylvanas' hair had the same muddy look

I thought due to the hair at first it might have been AI

[deep pawn]

So Turbo Boost and Dinars are confirmed again

[sleek solar]

What/ who is in front of her?

[austere gazelle]

Temu dinar are back

[deep pawn]

There's strong hints that there's a new race coming.

The Kul Tiran heritage coat has two new shapes

[pulsar minnow]

Lor’themar Theron

[clear apex]

could it be Arator?

[deep pawn]

Or maybe less likely, Dracthyr wearing armor

[pulsar minnow]

Imagine the twist

Not ethereals

Not naga

The one who can stop the void

Tuskarr

[deep pawn]

Tuskarr don't have skinny waists

[sleek solar]

Hmm, if they kill him off instead of solidifying his position by making him king, I will be very dissapointed

[pulsar minnow]

Skinny Lightforged Tuskarr

[novel zodiac]

wat

[sleek solar]

Where did you see that?

[austere gazelle]

you'll see Lor'themar in full CGI for the first time

[deep pawn]

and last /s

[deep pawn]

just people chatting on mmo-c thread

[sleek solar]

Yeah, that's what scares me

[little hound]

He JUST Got Married ffs, and they gonna break it ?!

[austere gazelle]

Thalyssra will be so pissed

[sleek solar]

Inb4 they kill him off to make place for a council

[deep pawn]

oh we got notes

[sleek solar]

Yikes

[zealous sedge]

winter viel

[clear apex]

i like it

[dense plover]

lots of voice acting in this remix

genuinely surprised

[zealous sedge]

i like it too

[dense plover]

way higher effort than mop remix

[zealous sedge]

im playing through the remix and the first quests are stopping the invasion of dalaran because the teleportation spell went wrong. Was that the original questline in legion?

[ember blaze]

druid?

[deep pawn]

yeah

[zealous sedge]

i like this

[deep pawn]

druid's legion mount was always a form

[deep pawn]

sounds sorta right, you did it above Karazhan

that was like prepatch scenario

[zealous sedge]

becasue this came up i thought it was interesting maybe its just a ptr thing

like did they change the in game cutscene

[deep pawn]

yeah, that's the original prepatch scenario

[zealous sedge]

for remix

okay cool

[ember blaze]

druids getting new forms, and evokers cant even get a new armor color for babershop 🤔

[deep pawn]

Nah, ptr will always have that overlay on cinematics

https://i.imgur.com/MYe2Xtb.png

[zealous sedge]

ah good to know

[zealous sedge]

i love this haha

[deep pawn]

GOBBLE GOBBLE

[little hound]

TCG Players gonna seethe.

[deep pawn]

that guy is customizable apparently

[dense plover]

in the infinite bazaar

[little hound]

[dense plover]

looks like you will be able to buy furniture for housing

[little hound]

Housing SoonTM?

[zealous sedge]

from the secret finding discord

[deep pawn]

The parrot is killing me

[dense plover]

some additional currencies for some of the cosmetics

also some items are phase locked in the vendors

[sleek solar]

Cant fucking wait

Djeez

Will probably quit my job by then anyways

[dense plover]

also the class set cosmetics are not class-locked, just armor type locked

idk if thats the case originally or not

[deep pawn]

There's recolors for old heritage armors finally

[dense plover]

example

[deep pawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/items/name:goldforged

[pulsar minnow]

Are the light forged in that? Been waiting for that red set for years

[dense plover]

buff is still hanging around

[deep pawn]

A lot of the Legion sets you were missing 1 or 2 pieces off set

I don't think you can use mop sets off class

[dense plover]

pretty sure this is the bird

[deep pawn]

yeah, that's the oriignal quest item

100k is expensive

[dense plover]

no quest for classmounts

[little hound]

Seeing as Bronze won't be used for upgrades this time, and only cosmetics? I think they'll be easier to get. So doubt they'll be that bad to get.

[dense plover]

not that bad - bronze is cosmetics only now

druid is actually a mount

[sleek solar]

Well that fucking sucks

[deep pawn]

oh nice

[deep pawn]

oh, so you can either level the class and get it free, or buy

[dense plover]

assuming it comes from leveling

[dense plover]

i hope they also add a druid form version

i can buy it and check

[deep pawn]

they have

you're late on that

the form was datamined

[sleek solar]

Ohh please let us know!

[dense plover]

when you get the mount

so its 2 unlocks

[sleek solar]

Ohhh i take it back!

[dense plover]

you get the druid form AND a mount

[sleek solar]

That is amazing

[dense plover]

so thats pretty cool

[deep pawn]

and the achievements awarding the mount are datamined

it's for levelling to max on a class

[dense plover]

makes sense

[deep pawn]

There's a Feat of Strength for levelling all classes

[dense plover]

havent seen this before - is this a pvp model?

idk what THIS is

maybe a recolor of the fancy nightborne cat?

[deep pawn]

yeah, that's a recolor at least of the honor level mounts

[deep pawn]

nah, that's the original mount

the wowcast said you'd be able to get it

[pulsar minnow]

Llothien Prowler

[pulsar minnow]

It dropped from withered army training

[clear apex]

awwwwe its so cuuuuuute

[dense plover]

you can get the horses!

[deep pawn]

yeah

[dense plover]

all 4 colors

also can just buy this one so thats nice

oh dammit

the lightforged golem isnt in here

wtf

[deep pawn]

That's a gold sink

[uncut vault]

that one's a hefty and presently available gold purchase so I can't imagine them adding that

[dense plover]

THATS A LOT OF QUIVERS

[pulsar minnow]

Someone was praying they’d add that idk who

[deep pawn]

that's all the thas'dorah quivers but not forced to use the bow

[dense plover]

cool suramar pieces

you can get the fancy shoulders of the floaty metal bits

[deep pawn]

FINALLLLLYLYYYy

[sleek solar]

NICEEEE

[pulsar minnow]

Huuuge

[clear apex]

tahts for the fox

[dense plover]

theres even a stay a while and listen when you get to eternus

this is clearly more story focused than mop remix

hearthstone pun

[clear apex]

also the torn invitation https://www.wowhead.com/item=140495/torn-invitation

which you can see in the legion remix video from the other day

this will just guarantee you can go get it since its a rare drop

[dense plover]

you get rewarded for doing the orderhall campaign stuff lol

this looks different right?

lol

[deep pawn]

same guy

he has all the mounts

there's various food weapons

Pilgrim's Bounty maybe

Also some day of the dead stuff

[dense plover]

i just noticed they reset the map - no argus

and no broken shore

[deep pawn]

they already said we're doing phases

So we're gonna get to see Argus in the sky again

okay, they are masks!

[dense plover]

i know but they went through the trouble of cleaning up the zone map

[autumn dagger]

FINALLY THE COOL NIGHTBORNE SHOULDERS

[clear apex]

imagine being able to play undead but with an actual skull face like that

[little hound]

WHATS ON THE HOUSING VENDOR ?!

[clear apex]

oh hell yeah that monk fel mount looks awesome

and the paladin

[deep pawn]

It's a DAGGER lol

[little hound]

The french are coming !

[deep pawn]

My new favorite mace

[little hound]

Someone make a french rogue mog

[little hound]

… 😂😂😂

What are those

[clear apex]

carrots!

[little hound]

Those are some pink carrots

[clear apex]

or something else if youre brave enough

*carrots come in many colors

[deep pawn]

CORN

Oh I am so ready for Pilgirm's Bounty

[clear apex]

[deep pawn]

Zug Zug

There's a bunch of icy stuff too

That's probably December's theme

[clear apex]

now im sad I dont play DH

[deep pawn]

there's a dagger based of Jaina's staff

and some axes

Spoon polearm

oh wait... I think there's a full tuskarr armor set to go with the moose

[dense plover]

yep, definitely care about the story

pretty sure story recap didnt exist in legion right?

theres this item, artifactium sand, which i think increases the ilvl of your weapon

replacing the artifact slotables

i kinda hope they keep that after remix

because it solves that system being fully broken these days

and it also doesnt have the legion remix sub-tag

[deep pawn]

Not Tuskarr

Maybe vaguely Jaina'y?

[clear apex]

That's my first thought.
Wish they'd lay off with the thigh armor

[uncut vault]

I know its a nelf set but god, this works so perfectly on Nightborne

[deep pawn]

I wanted the top and the side piece as a chest

The top looks kinda funny on its own

[dense plover]

when you get the artifact

wont let you inspect inside

[deep pawn]

It makes no sense why Evokers couldn't be part of this

[dense plover]

ah it just gives the bronze simulacrum

[dense plover]

no

the entire thing focuses on the class campaign

evokers dont have one

its that simple

they wrote like 8 quests, they would need to write like 300+ for evokers

plus scenarios and a bunch of other stuff

[deep pawn]

Have them observe another class's campaign

[dense plover]

whats the point of that?

[upper pasture]

it's not like blizzard couldn't have made one around the infinite but then again even if they did people would complain that it's "hallf baked"

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah that’s just weird and half assed at that point

I wouldn’t want to just be weirdly placed into like Druid stuff

[upper pasture]

i just wish they said that at the start

[deep pawn]

Just sucks if you can't play your favorite class in the content

[pulsar minnow]

I totally agree don’t get me wrong- again I main evoker

[upper pasture]

like "legion remix is coming, sorry no evokers"

[pulsar minnow]

But whatever I’ll just go play warrior I guess

[zealous sedge]

Yeah better to just get ahead of it instead of keeping people guessing

[deep pawn]

So December trading post being in doesn't necessarily mean this goes into December

[zealous sedge]

I loaded up a paladin on ptr cause I don’t play that class

[upper pasture]

cause i'm sure there's people that might have held off on leveling one cause of remix and they just missed the winds event

[deep pawn]

8 week cadence suggests 11.2.7 is either just before or after Thanksgiving

[upper pasture]

i wanted to be aug in uncapped m+ but i guess ill just do ret again

[deep pawn]

The headless horseman sets are surely October's trading post right?

So dwarf is September, Halloween October, Day of the Dead and Pilgrim's Bounty for November, and Icy for December

[dense plover]

when you unlock the missions

for the minions

intro mission - just skips it

holy shit

BRUTAL

[glass fulcrum]

No artifact recolors so far right

[dense plover]

nope

[glass fulcrum]

Shame, a few could go crazy with new colors

[deep pawn]

Maybe in a future build but not yet sadly

Only notable thing is the marksmanship quivers becoming separate mogs

[zealous sedge]

I would very surprised if there were not recolors

Give me a light shaded Xal’atath blade

[dense plover]

a LOT of mogs

its like 30 quivers

[glass fulcrum]

The sets are still class locked though i assume

[deep pawn]

I mean there's 4x6 or something variations of Thasdorah

[glass fulcrum]

Bc this looks like armor wide now

Nvm 2 messages up explained

[zealous sedge]

Hooded supplier is back

[dense plover]

25 also appears to be when infinite research is unlocked

[deep pawn]

Hmm, guessing the icy stuff doesn't have any trading post currency attached

[dense plover]

bonus quests are more worthwhile since they give a cache

[zealous sedge]

Oh interesting we still have order resources

It makes sense

[clear apex]

finally

[rustic cliff]

Is there any chance we might be able to unlock the original class hall mounts through remix?

[deep pawn]

probably

unless they don't let you leave the isles

[lavish raptor]

tumby

[clear apex]

im really happy they added that to buy

[deep pawn]

So one of the housing categories is "Companions"

Which is Brann

maybe you'll have the option to pick a companion for all world content?

That could solve the issue if they remove a lot of defensives/healing from dps specs

We've had bodyguards before

[autumn dagger]

It's just a cage to put him in just so he doesnt go awakening titan constructs in the last titan

[deep pawn]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/13577-Housing-Rewards-Coming-to-Legion-Remix

This has the datamined list of categories

The MMO-C thread is now talking about the one leak that had a new ally system

original poster got banned after 1 post lol

[crude sigil]

Like every other "leak" at any patch / expansion

[deep pawn]

Hehe yeah

I assume it's usually someone with an account tied to that IP already

[crude sigil]

mmoChampion, 99.9% of fake, fantasm ^^

[autumn dagger]

It's just 5/4 days

[deep pawn]

The expansion usually is leaked somehow but it's usually handwaved off until it's announced.

[zealous sedge]

Yeah but never really the full thing

[deep pawn]

Class Ascendencies could be sweet as a concept but we've been talking about stuff like that for years now

[zealous sedge]

Yeah that could be cool but what about class power

[deep pawn]

no idea

[novel zodiac]

meaby its a fancy way of saying class skins

[deep pawn]

exactly would be

But can't just say that as a system name

[dense plover]

the last few leaks have been art from the show

with gamescom being a 3rd party event i think its actually LESS likely, because it makes them look bad, vs if its blizzard and a 3rd party they brought in, it doesnt hurt a different company

flew through bronze and got this

lost legion demons

after completing the quest i no longer get bronze from the floaty things

probably because that BECAME my daily?

[glass fulcrum]

When I made my timerunning paladin they had a recolor of the Blade of Northern Kings

No clue if this is an existing appearance or not

[dense plover]

didnt explictly share this but the quest paper is new

[deep pawn]

was the same in mop remix

[zealous sedge]

im digging the new quest paper they did the same for k'aresh too

[dense plover]

its been a thing with new stuff since DF i think?

but going back to old expacs is neat

[zealous sedge]

yeah it adds great flavor

im sure this question has been asked but original class mounts are still obtainable? I see the fel versions via achievements or the vendor

*in remix that is

[dense plover]

hit 20, jewelry drops now

its weird

[dense plover]

probably?

unknown right now

cant check without getting to that point in the campaign

[zealous sedge]

oh is that like extra ranks for your artifact weapon tree? Or is that class talents. Not sure what class you are playing

[dense plover]

artifact tree

[zealous sedge]

neat

[lavish raptor]

guess its harder to smuggle stuff out of remix if its a trinket instead of a jewel

[dense plover]

this has two things

oh its just explaining the first thing

excuse me

[zealous sedge]

looking forward to whatever this may be

[dense plover]

research are the weekly quests

promotions mean you can hold onto more

[zealous sedge]

oh yes I think I remember reading that in the article

[dense plover]

random drop

[deep pawn]

make legion rep warbound in general

those will be fun to feed to mains for paragon caches

[dense plover]

likely theyre gonna hold off until after

since there are specific achievements for getting exalted during remix

[lavish raptor]

why does the portal to orgrimmar work

[zealous sedge]

im gonna try heroic world tier below the recommended level

[zealous sedge]

This is a great touch hope they bring this to retail

[dense plover]

looks like super rares have a timer

[dense plover]

wouldnt make sense in retail

this is specific to the research stuff

[zealous sedge]

true but for like the worldsoul quest specifically since we get a choice

[dense plover]

you already sort of have this with the worldsoul stuff when you talk to faerin in dornogal

the difference is that in the research system there are like 100 different quests

so ofc you need to say what you want

[zealous sedge]

oh true

[dense plover]

because theyre daily not weekly

[zealous sedge]

I didn't think about it that way because of the sheer amount of variety

I love the debate on the discussion chat in game about if the original ashbringer was red or blue

[deep pawn]

So, they're adding a Panthera customizable mount to the rostrum.

Panthera are associated with Argus

likely some sorta super remix meta reward

[dense plover]

looks like mining might give bronze?

oh you can just collect it

no profession needed

i got bronze and a momento

i think i like this version of the buff more

its MOSTLY % based so it gets better as your gear gets better

but it gives flat stamina and speed

you can see your buff on the weapon - thats nice

oh neat - all of the gathering thingies are timewarped

thats fun

so trinkets grant 2 ranks, rings and neck grant 1

auto activate mob drop from a rare

1 level away from 25

[dense plover]

nvm - the amount of ranks is based on rarity

so i assume an epic version of jewelry gives 3 ranks for the 3 rank skills

25 - time to try heroic world tier

just showed up in my log

why are we studying the legion?

how exactly are you experimenting?

What are you trying to learn?

new thingy - the console of infinite chaos

sky changed and got spooky - unlocked a new 'ability'

uh oh

it summoned a lot

i was too busy taking screenshots lol

[glass fulcrum]

it would be a flex to NOT have that achievement lol

[dense plover]

woah crazy fucking spirit healer

wtf

i think its something from the maw?

it looks cool

[glass fulcrum]

rq uh

let me give you this macro it will show them normal without the fx

try /console ffxDeath 0

[dense plover]

demons are overtuned tho

[glass fulcrum]

There is an achievement for killing an enpowered enemy

[dense plover]

im aware

i didnt realize the affix = empowered

those are especially tough

and its totally random who has what

engorged is WAY easier

the summon one is broken

i think the doomguard thats summoned is just kinda broken

[glass fulcrum]

https://gyazo.com/ca09ee571608ff3bdd2806093b8b6e05

[dense plover]

it deals 2k dmg per hit - thats 33$ of my hp

[glass fulcrum]

(Beacon under corpse)

[dense plover]

yeah beacons spawn from rares and elites

[glass fulcrum]

gave me stealth for 2 minutes

[dense plover]

and also just in the world

but i dont think theyre supposed to spawn outside heroic

[glass fulcrum]

im in heroic

[dense plover]

oh well they spawn outside of it

[glass fulcrum]

heroic seems plenty doable at 17 on ret

[dense plover]

jesus

4 affixes

almost no loot

wtf

they need to scale rewards with affixes or people wont bother

so far there seem to be no rewards beyond achievements and thats dumb

[ember blaze]

for the outer world?

[lavish raptor]

That's enough for the crazies on the achievements discord

[ember blaze]

the point is for things to be hard

[dense plover]

damage seems to be higher - like im taking more

[dense plover]

yeah but there should be a reward for it being harder

and there isnt

[ember blaze]

people have been crying about stuff falling over and being too easy to kill stuff

the reward is getting "harder" world content

[dense plover]

thats not a reward tho

and its not generally harder

[ember blaze]

the point is that the people wanting this, without a reward

[dense plover]

no it isnt

[ember blaze]

they wanted shit to take longer to kill

[dense plover]

thats not even what it does

it gives them new abilities and adds at most 10% health

[zealous sedge]

some might want that but this is "diablo inspired" direct quote from blizz so there should be some better rewards

[dense plover]

it even is advertised as being more rewarding in the freaking video

it isnt more rewarding at all

if i fight an enemy with 4 affixes, it should drop more stuff than a random bear with none

but it doesnt

[zealous sedge]

agreed

i need to put it in a feedback report

[dense plover]

also the demon summoning one is legit broken

the doomguard is vastly overtuned

[deep pawn]

early ptr

[zealous sedge]

also I thought maybe there was more than one tier

[deep pawn]

submit the feedback

We're not seeing this content for 2 months after all

[dense plover]

i understand

Tobi defending the lack of reward is what i was upset about

thats stupid

its intended to be rewarding

its balanced poorly

it needs tweaks

so orbyth got the summoning affix

literally impossible as a caster

[glass fulcrum]

there is an upgrade to let you permanently move while casting

oh boy

[dense plover]

its not that good - probably depends on the class tho

and probably better in instanced content

also - abandoning the quest despawned orbyth, and now it doesnt have the demon affix

[ember blaze]

im not defending anything, im speaking on what people have been crying about

they never mentioned they wanted rewards, it was all about quest mobs not falling over in one spell

[dense plover]

not in remix tho

half the point of remix is big damage everything explode dead

and the other half is the constant growth

and the growth just slows in heroic

you get fewer rewards and you get them slower

there is no way thats the intention

[clear apex]

I was on ptr earlier and couldn't even finish half my quests in remix.
Had to do a lot of reload and even then some were just broken.

Yes, i reported

[glass fulcrum]

Been playing it, seems fine? Only run into one broken quest so far. Wasn't a campaign one either.

[clear apex]

I couldn't turn mine in. And some finished and remained on my map and in quest log

Couldn't abandon it either

The broken ones were campaign ones

Most notably was the armor scrap and doing the artifact quest

[zealous sedge]

yep i had the same problem with the armor scrap one too

[clear apex]

items not going into my backpack correctly until i cleaned up my bags. And got cosmetic off the vendor and it didn't go into my appearances.
Bad luck i guess

[deep pawn]

So it'd be kinda sick if the new warpstalker mount was for playable Broken

I'm really starting to think the leaks about Outland are the most real

[pulsar minnow]

I hope not. I don’t understand how Outland would relate to the issue of Quel Thalas. Like what would really be affected in the light vs void conflict by suddenly deciding Outland doesn’t exist anymore.

“the light and void are having their final battle where gods will die!”

“Btw… uh, Arator, there’s a housing crisis.”

would be especially jarring after all the rebuilding the Draenei were doing to the place in their heritage questline

[tropic trail]

What happened to Outland?

[pulsar minnow]

There’s rumors that it’s going to be destroyed or something

They’re just rumors but a few “leaks” are saying this for whatever reason

[tropic trail]

Ain’t that we by being in Draenor altered the time somehow and Outland just gets deleted?

[pulsar minnow]

Outland from TBC and Draenor from WoD are different timelines so they wouldn’t effect each other really

[tropic trail]

Timelines can collapse onto eachother if something is clearly screwed up.

[lone mantle]

Did you derive that from the “realistic” time-travel idea based on relativity and causality in Einstein’s physics?

[tropic trail]

I don’t know I’m just cooking. It’s possible. Once in wow there was Death of Chromie quest and she kept going going back in time or someting and kept getting same Butterfly Effect 😂

[obtuse vine]

Isn’t the midnight book taking place in Outland? 🤔

That’s the book cover so who knows

[tropic trail]

There is Midnight book already?

[lone mantle]

Mysterious thing, time. Powerful, and when meddled with, dangerous.

[ember blaze]

outland leaks confirmed\

[obtuse vine]

It’s coming out in November but ready to pre order

[rain cave]

It's set before legion though isn't it?

Like it's not outland now

[rain cave]

Also who's that paladin dh crossover?

Is that lothraxions visage form?

[deep pawn]

The book is set before Midnight yeah

I think its set in Blasted Lands to start

[glass flicker]

That would be Arator. Alleria and Tyrantlyon-... sorry I mean Turalyon's kid.

[rain cave]

Huh?

[glass flicker]

Turn on your monitor. ❤️

[rain cave]

Oh wait that's arator on the front? I thought those were demon scales but it's tattoos

[glass flicker]

Yes.

[rain cave]

You forgot to mention turalyon so I was confused

[glass flicker]

??

[glass flicker]

I guess I omitted it? Not?

[rain cave]

You said turalyons kid, AND arator as if it were 2 seperate characters

Which confused me

Was it just a typo, I've messed up arator and turalyons names before

[glass flicker]

It wasn't a typo. I literally typed Tyrant-lyon because he's kind of a fool lorewise.

[rain cave]

No I didn't mean that

I got that bit

I just meant because you basically typed arator twice when listing the characters on the cover

Instead of turalyon

[glass flicker]

I've re-read it twenty times, I still don't see what you mean.

[rain cave]

I'm reading your message as "the people on the cover are, arator, alleria and turalyons kid"

Which is why I was confused

[glass flicker]

Uh, no. I was only talking about Arator. I was referring to him and explained who he is.

[rain cave]

Doesn't read like that to me initially

[glass flicker]

That's okay.

[rain cave]

But yeah arators tattoos are interesting

Thought they were demonic scales but looking closer that's just his new design

[glass flicker]

Yeah, two dragons, one light, one dark.

[rain cave]

Didn't expect them to go up to his head

He must be shaving those things every day

[glass flicker]

Pfft, likely.

Honestly I hate his haircut.

And that goatee just makes him look evil.

[rain cave]

I'm noticing that he had void and light energy coming out of his back

Legion remix we're using different magics than the normal for our class

Maybe new hero specs fir void and light?

[glass flicker]

And that would be our fourth Paladin spec. Discipline Paladin. If we can have Discipline Priest, we can have Discipline Paladin.

[rain cave]

Maybe it would be more of a hero spec though

Could stack on top of the current ones maybe, so it's not like you're losing things

[glass flicker]

But no, I think that energy is just around his parents, and it kinda looks like it's coming off his back 'cause of the posing.

[rain cave]

It looks like wings behind him

[glass flicker]

A bit.

Maybe it's supposed to make us think "oh, Child of Light and Darkness."
You know, because Illidan proved to be useless in that regard.

[rain cave]

Xera messed up pretty bad there

Especially considering arator is the child of the only two azerothians she had met

[glass flicker]

Mhm.

Arator popping wings, but one is holy and one void? C'mon Blizzard, the story and scene basically writes itself.

Give us more scenes with paladins popping wings.

[rain cave]

That hearthstone animated trailer is still one of the best pieces of warcraft animation

With liadrin

[glass flicker]

I know.

[deep pawn]

So, do we know why we can phase dive in Al'dani yet and what the two ghosts in there are for?

[tropic trail]

Where you got these leaks?

[deep pawn]

Partly joking haha

A couple posts on the mmo-c hype thread have Outland being destroyed

The new warpstalker being from Outland feels oddly timed

[rain cave]

Completely out of nowhere but I just had an idea that if outland is deteriorating naturally. What if there was a conservation effort? Teleporting the last bits of it to azeroth as islands for the draenei

Nothing to back it up but it would be a cool way to give the draenei back some of their old new home

[glass fulcrum]

Legion Remix has all the recolors of the horned horses btw
And they all fly :)

[deep pawn]

I'll die if we get playable Arrakoa instead of anything else

"Arrakoa as masters of light and shadow"

[ember blaze]

is outland another universe/timeline or is it just another planet in the sky

[deep pawn]

It's officially in the Twisting Nether these days I believe but they've been inconsistent

It might just be in space now

[rain cave]

Its at the border isn't it?

Like half in half out, not really anywhere in particular but also exists

It's definitely atleast half in there lmao

[glass flicker]

Well, at the time we fought Illidan, we could literally see Azeroth in the sky.

So yes, at the time, it might have been in space. Thrall also was in Nagrand during BfA.

[glass flicker]

You didn't know?

Go fight Illidan and look at the sky.

[rain cave]

Isn't it a giant moon?

I'm looking at images now and all I see is a giant pale white thing behind him

If it is, that doesn't mean that azeroth and draenor were close in space. Azeroth isn't visible anywhere else in outland, and illidan canonically can open portals between the nether and space that allows planets to be seen in the sky.

[plain violet]

Yes it's just Draenor moon in Outland. 😅

Also mentionned in the book describing the fight!

Just the pale lady, that was always enormous and seen from the sky in Shadowmoon valley, so after it became barren..

[sullen dawn]

i still really think we're going to one of azeroths moons in a midnight patch