#beta-ptr-spoilers
mighty wolf
little hound
Man looks like he might be using something at his core. Maybe the remnants of the World Soul? Or maybe the Dark Heart? We'll get spoilers on Wowhead soon.
glass flicker
See, it would have been so cool to just destroy K'aresh entirely and have Dimensius be a patchwork made of void and pieces of the planet.
little hound
I like his model, it has a touch of "Omnipotent Being" to it. Voidwalker shaped? Yes. But also looks like he contains an entire galaxy inside of him.
glass flicker
That way, we'd fight an avatar of Dimensius, not him, himself.
sullen dawn
yes as said all long
glass flicker
Far more believable.
sullen dawn
we have to go to karesh pre midnight to give us real stakes
little hound
As someone who is disappointed we had to fight the AVATAR of Sargeras, and not Sargeras himself? I'm glad we're fighting the main bad guy for once.
glass flicker
Gonna tell me a gnome with a stick can beat that thing to death? I don't think so.
sullen dawn
glass flicker
As someone who is disappointed we had to fight the AVATAR of Sargeras, and not S...
Why would you want to fight three titans in the same expansion?
little hound
Three titans?
glass flicker
I still think it's a little much that we fought Aggramar and Argus back to back.
sullen dawn
its a titan civil war
eonar, sargeras, khaz and one other on our side
vs the rest
golganesh dies first
little hound
I somewhat don't mind if we don't get Rootlands this expac, it makes more sense to make use of it when Last Titan lands. It's Eonar's making after all.
glass flicker
Nah. Sargeras is being saved as the final villain, period. He's the Dalamud that marks the end of FFXIV 1.0.
glass flicker
When Sargeras dies, WoW officially ends and it's time for WoW 2.
pulsar minnow
Not really vibing with his design, if I'm honest.
I like his model. My only problem is that he’s called the all devouring and he doesn’t have a mouth…
little hound
I like his model. My only problem is that he’s called the all devouring and he d...
Many creatures eat / consume things through absorbing them, not shoving it down their mouths.
sullen dawn
eonar and 1 or 2 more survive as new order
pulsar minnow
Well yeah. But it woulda been cool
little hound
And seeing as Dimensius is made out of Energy, he probably just absorbs the World Soul to eat it.
little hound
Well yeah. But it woulda been cool
We already got stabbed by an eifel tower sword, i don't want bite marks across Northrend 
glass flicker
Energy = heat. I wish Dimensius had some void fire effect to his model.
pulsar minnow
I think this kinda visual from Dimensius woulda been so sick
little hound
Energy = heat. I wish Dimensius had some void fire effect to his model.
I mean.. We haven't seen his model animated yet so, it might?
sullen dawn
He seems more like anti matter
glass flicker
I mean.. We haven't seen his model animated yet so, it might?
That's true. His head kinda gives off that impression.
sullen dawn
They just say energy for simplicity
little hound
Good, i don't want another Siren's Isle shitshow.
glass flicker
Ayy, rare Blizzy W.
little hound
pulsar minnow
Excited to see the other void lords though. Invalidus, Pandemonius and whatever other “iduses” they decide to add.
Excited to see the other void lords though. Invalidus, Pandemonius and whatever other “iduses” they decide to add.
deep pawn
So long as Ecological Succession isn't another fill the bar once an hour event.
glass flicker
So long as Ecological Succession isn't another fill the bar once an hour event.
I just hope it won't be another Protoform Synthesis.
God. My banks were so full of crap.
I never even bothered with the system.
pulsar minnow
So long as Ecological Succession isn't another fill the bar once an hour event.
I pray. I’m so tired of world events at this point 😭
deep pawn
oh, nevermind, here it is
There will be a new community event titled something similar to "Devourer Attacks", where deadly enemies from throughout the cosmos will be drawn to anima brought from the Shadowlands to power the Eco-Domes of K'aresh.
glass flicker
Oh goody, the lifeblood of the afterlife, used as Garrison Resources.
lavish raptor
Excited to see the other void lords though. Invalidus, Pandemonius and whatever ...
Cringidus, my spirit animal
glass flicker
pulsar minnow
“There's still a lot of speculation surrounding Orweyna and the Harronir, but its important to remember that The War Within is just the start of the World Soul Saga trilogy, so there's still a lot of time and opportunity to link stories together. Ghosts of Ka'resh is the last major update for The War Within, though there is further content coming, and a lot more story to tell.”
So their story isn’t scrapped. Just moved forward in the saga
little hound
Makes more sense for Rootlands in Last Titan, seeing as Eonar returns, and its where the tree was torn out
tulip sun
“There's still a lot of speculation surrounding Orweyna and the Harronir, but it...
Is this from an interview?
pulsar minnow
Is this from an interview?
Yes
tulip sun
Good to hear. I was confused about it.
pulsar minnow
sullen dawn
So their story isn’t scrapped. Just moved forward in the saga
As expected
sullen dawn
Oh goody, the lifeblood of the afterlife, used as Garrison Resources.
Lmao
Possibly one of the most evil things you could do to a mortal soul lol
deep pawn
Makes more sense for Rootlands in Last Titan, seeing as Eonar returns, and its w...
I guess it doesn't make a huge difference if the tree was pulled out from Sholazar instead of near Khaz Algar, but still sucks cause it feels like the Ethereals are just filler to get us to Midnight haha
little hound
I guess it doesn't make a huge difference if the tree was pulled out from Sholaz...
I mean... Midnight is void-themed, as are the Ethereals and most of their lore? Makes perfect sense to me.
deep pawn
We'll have to see how voidy Midnight.
little hound
Just re-watch the expact announcment..?
They made it clear that there's going to be ALOT OF void invasions.
upper pasture
So their story isn’t scrapped. Just moved forward in the saga
or was always planned to be where it is
deep pawn
nah, we've literally been told that the original plot for TWW was spread over the entire saga.
little hound
That plot is mostly Xal'atath and her schemes.
Gotta keep adding wood to the fire, otherwise it burns out.
austere gazelle
In before the void invasion will ve launched by Azshara
little hound
Azshara isn't really void related by alot though.
austere gazelle
She is now
lavish raptor
it'll be like Rift 
little hound
She is now
Since when? There are no pointers to thatl
austere gazelle
The prophecy said so. She has transcended the umbral veil, and her naga power came from nzoth and she is powered by void power
Last time we saw her she leave by a void portal
little hound
deep pawn
That plot is mostly Xal'atath and her schemes.
Nah, there's plenty of evidence to suggest the final raid of original TWW was fighting the titans in the manifold.
austere gazelle
The time we have long awaited is nigh.
Even now, the Harbinger gathers the children of the first flesh to reclaim what was lost. They must remember their vows and serve those to whom they owe fealty.
While they toil in the deep places, we will journey to the shores of dragon lands, to the blessed isle where the Worldbreaker first embraced the whispers.
As one storm recedes, another rises. The torches have been lit. The secrets he buried will strike as a dagger into the hearts of his kin!
The Harbinger speaks of a primal power that seeks the end of Order. Such rage can be bent to serve our ends.
A hunger lost to the ages will be reclaimed.
A dark heart left broken awaits the taking.
When these things come to pass, the Harbinger will fulfill the final prophecy and complete the awakening.
Only then shall our Queen return to reign over sea and sky and earth. We must make ready.
Rise, rise! Soon all that was hidden will be revealed.```If your 'evidence' are simple hints through some tiny dialogue? It's not really evidence, its speculation.
little hound
```Rise, rise! Our Queen calls to us from beyond the Umbral Veil. She has transc...
Aah, the Forbidden Reach tablets?
Didn't really dig through alot of lore during that time, was most avidly farming.
austere gazelle
^^
deep pawn
wowhead has access to the build?
ionic terrace
it's out now
little hound
Ooo
Can't WAIT to see models!
Hunter's tier was really a low blow, yikes.
Looks like questing gear.
little hound
Ey, Psst! Mythic Mount?
sullen dawn
Siiiick nexus king from hearthstone
little hound
Siiiick nexus king from hearthstone
From HS? He's been a NPC Since TBC :3
warm topaz
i love they're using the art they used for Sarkareth, that looks fucking cool
little hound
sullen dawn
From HS? He's been a NPC Since TBC :3
You are... right
little hound
So, what mounts are added?
little hound
little hound
zealous sedge
Hot damn
sullen dawn
HUGE SPOILER YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
novel zodiac
my bad
sullen dawn
Thanks
little hound
Just make sure to post it as a Spoiler if you are to post PTR Stuff
sullen dawn
No its cool I just dont wanna force people to know haha
This channel is generally aimed a spoilers but the huuuuuge ones im always a bit cautious with
novel zodiac
i mean, if people dont want spoilers they shouldn't be in this sub-channel
little hound
KSM Looks nice.
sullen dawn
i mean, if people dont want spoilers they shouldn't be in this sub-channel
You're right, just the big things I like tk give a second chance lol
novel zodiac
makes sense
little hound
makes sense
What did you post btw? Pm me?
sullen dawn
What did you post btw? Pm me?
He just described what I have in my spiler
pulsar minnow
or was always planned to be where it is
Yeah I think it was always planned for TLT too
sullen dawn
little hound
Are people whining about for ONCE, A PvE Mount being cooler than a PvP Mount? Y'all PvP Addicts had AWESOME Mounts ALL Dragonflight and Shadowlands 😄
dense plover
did they legit make the mythic mount the nzoth mount but stars?
little hound
did they legit make the mythic mount the nzoth mount but stars?
N'zoth Mythic mount was a Jellyfish with eyes..?
silk hare
aotc
little hound
Oh that was the N'zoth Ahead of the Curve.
dense plover
not quite sure what to think of the brewmaster changes
some of it seems to be a nerf which feels bad
pulsar minnow
I wish that mythic mount was the AOTC mount
dense plover
also the monk tier set is visually BY FAR the worst one this expac
little hound
Brewmaster was kinda MEH In 11.1 too though.
little hound
I wish that mythic mount was the AOTC mount
That's what most think about any Mythic mount.
little hound
https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-3-keystone-master-and-legend-void-flyer-mounts-patch-11-2-377344
lavish raptor
did they legit make the mythic mount the nzoth mount but stars?
It's the netherwing dragon riding drake but stars
pulsar minnow
Those are gorgeous
pulsar minnow
Kil Jaeden elekk?
quartz lintel
Guys
little hound
Bro looks annoyed
quartz lintel
3 Transmog
little hound
Oh my god
quartz lintel
Felreaver themed armor transmog
Headless Horsemen armor
And...
SAN'LAYN ARMOR
little hound
The effects on the Mythic Mount
Its heart is a Collapsing Star.
Reskinned Roc mounts from Maldraxxus.
little hound
Felreaver themed armor transmog
Headless Horsemen armor
And...
SAN'LAYN ARMOR
Imma go look at those rn
quartz lintel
Imma go look at those rn
Not available on the ptr, but the icons are on mmochampion
little hound
Not available on the ptr, but the icons are on mmochampion
Oh, i can find em on wowhead, dw.
quartz lintel
the set sound bein inspired by Lana'thiel
pulsar minnow
Oh hey you can get allerias set
little hound
Not available on the ptr, but the icons are on mmochampion
Fel Reaver armor. It has 3 Variants. Hellfire. Fel. Azure.
novel zodiac
i hope its not like class sets that's just 3 parts
little hound
Gonna look at the Horseman one, sec.
little hound
i hope its not like class sets that's just 3 parts
No its full sets.
pulsar minnow
Didn’t the Demon Hunters already get a Fel Reaver set in undermine?
little hound
Tiridan.
novel zodiac
No its full sets.
that looks hedious
little hound
Wanna see something that'll dislocate your jaw?
pulsar minnow
Sure
little hound
pulsar minnow
Oh hell yeah
novel zodiac
OOOOOOOOOF
little hound
I might be abit moist rn
quartz lintel
OOOOOOO
novel zodiac
that's good
little hound
Will post Fire / Ice version, sec
pulsar minnow
God damnit is that gonna be a shop set
quartz lintel
Tresh vibe here
little hound
quartz lintel
the weapon of the set
little hound
Yeah, lots of 2h and 1 hoptions
Whoever said Dimensius was Al'akir sizeed?
Not NEARLY Even.
pulsar minnow
Huh interesting. He’s got souls or something flowing on his magic lower half
little hound
Good observation.
His shoulders looks to be parts of K'aresh, the earth/crust of it.
WAAAAAAIT A SEC
WAIT WAIT
His custom anim uses a spell..
Let me zoom in on the middle
Oh you bastard.
autumn relic
:o!
lavish raptor
Oh so it's HIS heart
warm topaz
warm topaz
i think she just wants the heart lmao
little hound
Xal'atath is HELPING us ?!
little hound
Oh that byatch is VERY Much doing this for her own benefit.
novel zodiac
we weaken it and she absorbs it
little hound
How horribly?
You know She's fucking DESPERATE When she's going turncoat against her own boss, just to get her relic back.
pulsar minnow
Someone check on Taliesin
He’s gotta be having the best day of his life
Priest Set is Xal’Atath themed, and not only that but Xal is helping us again
little hound
little hound
Priest Set is Xal’Atath themed, and not only that but Xal is helping us again
I don't think she's really helping us, more like.. "I buff you, you do my dirty work, i run away with the dark heart"
It's VERY Likely that she'll YOINK It the moment he dies, and she initiates the Midnight pre-patch
upper pasture
i expect Xal to stab us in the back as soon as it's over
little hound
And absorb what's left of him.
sullen dawn
https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/1935461743213350942
he doesnt seem to be leaning though?
little hound
I just realised that Dimensius's model revealing the DArk Heart as his catalyst.
sullen dawn
|| ||
deep pawn
Another dragon riding boss haha
little hound
Is that my fucking ORder Hall? You bastard, SPIT IT OUT!
upper pasture
the last one was a banger so why not more
sullen dawn
Make him spit out my order hall, I have missions to send.
its not inside dimensius
pulsar minnow
So if Xal never intended to summon Dimensius, what was her goal
little hound
So if Xal never intended to summon Dimensius, what was her goal
Probably to absorb him.
sullen dawn
So if Xal never intended to summon Dimensius, what was her goal
suck up azeroth soul using lots of magic as fuel
upper pasture
empower herself?
lavish raptor
So if Xal never intended to summon Dimensius, what was her goal
I mean she got pissed off because gally let the ethereals take the dark heart so she was never team Dimbo
novel zodiac
i mean, she helped dimensius so it could eat k'aresh and she got imprisoned inside a dagger for 20.000 years as a reward, i would be pissed too
deep pawn
Locus Walker is not our most reliable narrator over what happened at K'aresh so far.
little hound
Ah right.
deep pawn
based off M+ testing I'm feeling more confident about Aug 5th
quartz lintel
I have the impression that by defeating Dimensius, he gets absorbed by the Dark Heart, and implodes the object in question during the process.
little hound
The Dark Heart is a relic of the void, which means it is a bottomless storage of power. If she absorbs dimensius, i doubt it'll explode.
Unlike her flawed dagger.
quartz lintel
A relic of the Void ? Isn't created by Neltharion ?
little hound
Who was under N'zoth and the influence of the Old Gods.
And hoarded void magic for centuries.
deep pawn
The dark heart was ancient even the Dragonsoul was made.
per what we were told.
it's been referred to as a prototype
little hound
I am saving EVERY Trader's tender from today on.
pulsar minnow
I wonder if Neltharion didn’t actually make the dark heart but received it from the void rift beneath Abberus
little hound
I am getting that Headless Horseman set/Mount
little hound
I wonder if Neltharion didn’t actually make the dark heart but received it from ...
Its design does look very Draconic, least its frame
deep pawn
sullen dawn
deep pawn
Yeah, new spec almost confirmed
little hound
DArksorrow?
sullen dawn
mhm
little hound
That's a realm name.
sullen dawn
no
little hound
Haaang on, geek searching..
sullen dawn
i was replying to kyle
little hound
I meant Darksorrow, on the picture.
little hound
Its a realm's name
deep pawn
Adarus's abilities don't immediately scream new spec but who knows
sullen dawn
I meant Darksorrow, on the picture.
THats their sirname
little hound
I don't RP so.. Dunno?
sullen dawn
i mean in the whole game
little hound
quartz lintel
it's good to bein an orc warlock
deep pawn
so based on the vagueness about the cloak during the wowcast, Xal's making it
Watch it immobilize us after the raid while she steals the heart and flee.
little hound
it's good to bein an orc warlock
Yeah, especially when your face looks like a Void Storage or Imp Portal.
rain cave
Rip ethereal allied race
quartz lintel
yeah they have confirmed that the ethereal will never be playable
fuck this shit fr
rain cave
What was their reasoning
quartz lintel
nothing
little hound
yeah they have confirmed that the ethereal will never be playable
Wait, really? Where? When?
rain cave
😭
quartz lintel
"it's not planned to make the ethaeral playable"
during an interview
gimme a moment
little hound
😢
rain cave
What are the void ones abilities
little hound
Ah well.
I'll live without void mummies.
WAIT
WAIT WAIT
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
quartz lintel
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/13406-Patch-11-2-Ghosts-of-K-aresh-Developer-Interviews
"No plans for Ethereals as a playable race, but there will be some cool armor rewards that are Ethereal themed."
little hound
deep pawn
rain cave
Cool
quartz lintel
lmao, imagine do the curve during BFA for nothing
little hound
I NEED THIS
elfin eagle
i had a shower thought
little hound
I hated the BFA AoTC Dragon's saddle.
elfin eagle
making diemnsius huge is probably a test run for a huge titan sized boss fight
little hound
The saddle looks like Shite.
rain cave
lmao, imagine do the curve during BFA for nothing
Fomo is bad anyway, and it's different
quartz lintel
deep pawn
And scythes have been a missing thing for DH for a while
quartz lintel
lavish raptor
I NEED THIS
I got that in BFA but it was naked
sullen dawn
lavish raptor
I'm glad they finally gave it clothes
rain cave
And scythes have been a missing thing for DH for a while
He still wields glaives though, I hope it enables 2h
little hound
I got that in BFA but it was naked
Oh no, no no. I have every AoTC Mount.
little hound
I'm feelin' old.
lavish raptor
Whoever said this patch is an asset dump was right 
They put their whole cat into making undermine
rain cave
They put their whole cat into making undermine
Nah dimensius ate the budget
He just does that
little hound
Lmao
dense plover
this has to be the AOTC quest right?
deep pawn
It feels pretty different to me
dense plover
at least make a new model, not take the previous one and slap some armor on
its the same model
dense plover
They've reused SOOO Many things over the years.
not for AOTC mounts
lavish raptor
They should have made it translucent
little hound
Considering how many "earn" AoTC by buying boosts? I honestly don't care at this point about that, it holds 0 Value.
dense plover
its clearly the exact same model
little hound
It is.
deep pawn
it just has the new glow from this patch
lavish raptor
ayo lemme copy your work
little hound
Just as lazy as folks buying AoTC Boosts 
rain cave
It's not the aotc mount this patch though
It's a reuse yes but we don't know It's source
little hound
It's not the aotc mount this patch though
There was no AoTC Mount this patch in undermine.
Its from a Quest source, from the raid.
deep pawn
sales for this mount will be nuts.
little hound
So its most likely AoTc
deep pawn
so sparkly
sullen dawn
Amani mentioned!!!
Akil'darah Windscarred
Description: While the Amani have long been considered enemies of the gryphons, the eagle loa is respected as one of the masters of the sky. Tribute must be paid to soar in her domain.
little hound
sales for this mount will be nuts.
I have 17m gold ready, now to just wait 6-7 months for it to be on sale for an OK Penny.
rain cave
I doubt they'd just reuse it like that for aotc
dense plover
its crazy that the raid achieve has a new mount but the AOTC for the last raid of the expac doesnt
little hound
rain cave
No need to get angry we don't know yet
little hound
Its..mostly confirmed.
rain cave
Literally hours since announced
little hound
Its how every AoTC Mount has been confirmed.
deep pawn
its crazy that the raid achieve has a new mount but the AOTC for the last raid o...
there's a ton of K'arrocs
rain cave
Do we have a achievement for aotc saying it gives the mount
little hound
Fancy? Yes
Quest Reward: Yes.
Quest related to the Raid? Yes.
Okay, Its AoTC.
deep pawn
Ironically the meta mount for Undermine is better than Manaforge's
little hound
Its really no big brain math to solve that.
rain cave
Could also change during ptr
little hound
its crazy that the raid achieve has a new mount but the AOTC for the last raid o...
Can't say i fancy these birds much, just reskinned Plaguerocs from Maldraxxus. Same bones and animations.
deep pawn
My favorite of the k'arrocs
quartz lintel
Hemet Nesingwary datamined as Undead
dense plover
Can't say i fancy these birds much, just reskinned Plaguerocs from Maldraxxus. S...
shared skeleton but at least its a new model
little hound
So most likely he's passed.
quartz lintel
Probably dead during DF -> TWW
rain cave
Can't say i fancy these birds much, just reskinned Plaguerocs from Maldraxxus. S...
I mean it's good to bring the rig out of being just for shadowlands
lavish raptor
Hemet Nesingwary datamined as *Undead*
my DK, finger on the Control Undead button: 
rain cave
Hemet Nesingwary datamined as *Undead*
Hemet darkranger
deep pawn
HAH, we can fly on K'aresh
"Tazavesh was a really cool space that was built out as a dungeon, so the team did some revamping to make it work for flying, opened up some doors, and now more players will be able to see it."
dense plover
load screens
rain cave
I will say though that this patch being announced is hilarious while orweyna just sits twiddling thumbs on the cutting room floor
dense plover
i have to assume the harronir are coming with us to midnight
rain cave
Karesh just rkoing out of nowhere to mog the haranir
dense plover
otherwise im gonna be legitimately upset
rain cave
i have to assume the harronir are coming with us to midnight
I'm really curious and confused how that will work
This feels like a midnight patch lmao
sullen dawn
load screens
already posted 90 mins ago
rustic cliff
Ethereals and haranir for playable races in midnight PLZ
rain cave
We even have elf themed sets
dense plover
did someone post the animation of dimensius' death?
upper pasture
i'm assuming whatever Xal does after we take down demi will make the Harronir come out and ask for help
dense plover
and the omega-level spoilers that come with it?
deep pawn
not yet
dense plover
rain cave
I'm very curious about xals plan though
dense plover
rustic cliff
and the omega-level spoilers that come with it?
The spoiler that we beat the bad guy?
deep pawn
oof, do I spoil myself hmm
rain cave
If she's helping us against dimensius she has her own plan
dense plover
usually dont spoiler tag but its a HUGE spoiler
sullen dawn
did someone post the animation of dimensius' death?
yes but we decided to mark spoilers discussing it!
maybe delete comment
upper pasture
so the dark heart does what the dark heart has been doing since it came into the story and yall are surprised?
dense plover
nah - saying he dies is sort of a given for spoilers chat
dense plover
so the dark heart does what the dark heart has been doing since it came into the...
theres a cool sub area for it too
rain cave
so the dark heart does what the dark heart has been doing since it came into the...
I mean, not necessarily?
sullen dawn
i prefer to give people a second chance on the huge stuff
sullen dawn
theres a cool sub area for it too
like when i posted this image here already
sullen dawn
its fine. i think everythings already been posted hehe
people are hungry for this patch haha
dense plover
was the updated khaz algar map posted already?
rain cave
So is dimensius
sullen dawn
well im capturing weapon screenshots atm, and lean animations for all races
deep pawn
||So that's likely a phase transition.||
dense plover
i see - it was
sullen dawn
sullen dawn
was the updated khaz algar map posted already?
ye
deep pawn
The raid dungeon journal spoils a lot of the fight
dense plover
||So that's likely a phase transition.||
it seems to be the animation and then presumably a cutscene happens but not sure
rustic cliff
and the omega-level spoilers that come with it?
Could you explain what the big spoiler with it is? Other than the fact that he dies?
dense plover
Could you explain what the big spoiler with it is? Other than the fact that he d...
||sucked into the dark heart||
upper pasture
Could you explain what the big spoiler with it is? Other than the fact that he d...
||looks like he gets sucked into the dark heart||
rain cave
Save dalaran from the heart, combine it with tazavesh and the netherlight temple, bolt the warlock class hall on the side. Fuck it, add oribos as well. We'll call it me'danville
upper pasture
let dalaran rest
deep pawn
From the raid journal.
dense plover
with xalatath?
deep pawn
yes
quartz lintel
Omg
upper pasture
yeah she is helping us
rain cave
I love this
deep pawn
Based on the wowcast and the journal, odds are she's making the cloak for us
quartz lintel
look's like Frieza redeem during the battle of the 7 universe lmao
rain cave
She's such a snake
upper pasture
probably for her own gain but she is helping us during the fight
rain cave
Based on the wowcast and the journal, odds are she's making the cloak for us
Bandages are made to bind...
upper pasture
Based on the wowcast and the journal, odds are she's making the cloak for us
i don't think she's making it but she definitely alters it during the raid fight
deep pawn
Nah, given that she empowers the cloak during the fight
it's her.
they were vague on purpose
lol, the DHs are an entirely optional fight?
yeah, they're a spec spoiler.
upper pasture
i just want the real trailer to drop D:
deep pawn
I don't think she'll be that hidden, she wants the heart so it makes sense.
Plus you know the writers want more tension between her an Alleria.
deep pawn
I feel like if he was making the cloak they'd just say so
lavish raptor
What if zalmataffy pretends to be Locus Walker
upper pasture
honestly what if LW and Xal were the same person all along!
"he" keeps his true name hidden for no real reason
sullen dawn
yeh and he wasnt
deep pawn
while we have some evidence she could do stuff outside the dagger during SoD, I don't think she'd reach Argus
upper pasture
yes, it was sarcasm
ember blaze
yeah, they're a spec spoiler.
confirmed 💀
now the question is
is it support style or nah
deep pawn
You did misunderstand, cause wowcast differed between the K'aresh eco-domes and returning to the Azure Span, but keep feeling self righteous.
ember blaze
are these in the dungeon journal
deep pawn
the hunt is
ember blaze
and then theyre saying this is new
deep pawn
so as i said, netherstorm IS part of a questline
Netherstorm being part of a questline isn't a shocker, but that's not what the wowcast said, I'm guessing an interview that hasn't been summarized yet says it?
ember blaze
and not in the dungeon journal
novel zodiac
if DHs are getting a new spec what are the chances that we get a new class for Midnight?
i think they they went down a lot if that theory is true
ember blaze
i think they they went down a lot if that theory is true
huh
deep pawn
The survey always made me assume TLT was the new class.
sullen dawn
The survey always made me assume TLT was the new class.
it is
midnight is a new spec
ember blaze
The survey always made me assume TLT was the new class.
could be yeah
sullen dawn
for the class that only has 2. makes sense
tlt will be titan tech class i.e. tinker/artificer
ember blaze
but if we're visiting old areas which i assume also include titan stuff
i dont see why it cant fit midnight as well
sullen dawn
tinker?
deep pawn
and then theyre saying this is new
what is the icon named?
sullen dawn
doubt it
ember blaze
and like the beledar crystal stuff is already done introduced
sullen dawn
not in midnight
uncut vault
the tossup for Midnight vs TLT having a class was always a matter of if Blizz thought we urgently needed a void class more than something like tinker
sullen dawn
Netherstorm being part of a questline isn't a shocker, but that's not what the w...
no im playing the quest rn
uncut vault
Seemingly, theyre going in the direction of void specs instead
so a full class for TLT is more open
deep pawn
Dagran feels primed to be our first artificer
ember blaze
good point
ember blaze
Dagran feels primed to be our first artificer
yeah im hoping ure right
sullen dawn
Dagran feels primed to be our first artificer
yeh
ember blaze
if this dh void spec doesnt turn out to be a support
then i guess we gotta wait for artificer
sullen dawn
Seemingly, theyre going in the direction of void *specs* instead
i think its just dh getting one
they need it for two reasons. 1) they only have 2 specs; 2) they need more story relevancy beyond demons since legion tied up and we likely wont do demons properly again until we go to their homeworlds to see the 'natural demon' state
and then yeh, artifcier in midnight
more importantly though
we're getting kilts
sullen dawn
yay the next TP item to get o 32 recolors lol
its brewfest
4 colours
theres a mount too
deep pawn
So I don't know what the story of the patch can spoil about Midnight, but an interview said we'll know what's gonna happen in Quel'thalas by the end of it.
So maybe Xal gets to gloat after the raid
I still think if she makes the cloaks, they'll trap us after the raid
ember blaze
I still think if she makes the cloaks, they'll trap us after the raid
that would be an interesting twist 👀
need wowhead to post links to all these interviews cause i cannot keep track
rain cave
they need it for two reasons. 1) they only have 2 specs; 2) they need more story...
Also elf class, and elf expansion
edgy ivy
theres a cool sub area for it too
The whole expansion has been the set up of a joke
That arena just needs a giant banner with that logo
rain cave
The war within its actually bickering about one button rotation
edgy ivy
true
rain cave
It's so that faerin can play
deep pawn
I mean there's nothing left.
lavish raptor
it got blown up
pulsar minnow
Well yeah no shit. But both it and undermine have been really tiny zones
deep pawn
So the oasis is Ve'nari's base probably.
deep pawn
Well yeah no shit. But both it and undermine have been really tiny zones
They were made during a time crunch
tulip sun
Patch zones are never really big
deep pawn
Blizzard normally designs zones years in advance
lavish raptor
zermo was gigantic compared to korthia
pulsar minnow
Emerald dream and Zaralek were pretty sizable
I pray that because of this patch cadence they’re not gonna keep making smaller and smaller zones again
The best thing about dragonflight was the world and its scale and how well it complimented by flight
deep pawn
I think a lot of it is purely the fact they cut the last 2 thirds of this expansion late in development
or delayed rather
warm topaz
I think a lot of it is purely the fact they cut the last 2 thirds of this expans...
this, I feel like Midnight will be ok
deep pawn
yeah, TWW suffered for the sake of the saga
Makes me sad cause I do like Khaz Algar
it's just gonna go down as a wasted setting
deep pawn
I'm sure the devs are fine if they even see feedback like this
I'm sure they'll go "yeah, we did what we could."
I still think 11.0.5 and 11.1.5 having 0 story were massive mistakes
and 11.2.5 doesn't mention story either
upper pasture
TWW suffering? i think it's been fine so far? besides the weird release of 11.1.5 it's been alright
warm topaz
I'm terms of development, they change almost everything, mid development
pulsar minnow
The story has kind of felt like it hasn’t moved since 11.0. Like yeah we went to undermine but it largely felt like a detour
Honestly undermine feels like it was included because it had to be since this was the underground expansion
deep pawn
except K'aresh doesn't fit that
deep pawn
TWW suffering? i think it's been fine so far? besides the weird release of 11.1....
it's been fine but Khaz Algar was underused
pulsar minnow
except K'aresh doesn't fit that
I really don’t care for this discussion about whether it fits the theme of an underground expansion as the horse has been beaten to death especially since it really has nothing to do with what I’m saying about undermine. It at least has more relation to the dark heart and overall course of the world soul saga
sullen dawn
yeh hes saying/asking if the zone seems small
(i dont personally agree but the answers to his question are kinda massive tangents)
deep pawn
yeh hes saying/asking if the zone seems small
different discussions
sullen dawn
ok
new rep is called The K'aresh Trust
and the raid renown is Manaforge Vandals
and karesh has flying, i was dead wrong there
ember blaze
Bet she's very angry about it, too.
maybe thats her acting 💀
sullen dawn
lmao
they're finally fixing /who
after 15 years of being broken
WHO_LIST_LEVEL_TOOLTIP (New) - Level %d
WHO_LIST_SEARCH_INSTRUCTIONS (New) - Search Zones, Guilds, Classes, Races, Levels
glass flicker
Oh boy! New Killing Spree animation.
From this description, I surmise we'll do like Reaper.
lavish raptor
it also wont teleport around like a butt
ember blaze
TWW suffering? i think it's been fine so far? besides the weird release of 11.1....
people have been critiquing a lot of how the story just feels off and random
glass flicker
people have been critiquing a lot of how the story just feels off and random
I sorta don't like the Arathi questline. They're just pulling all the "evil" human organizations and it's weird.
Defias, Syndicate, Scarlet Crusade, all in Arathi Highlands. In a mini patch.
lavish raptor
best way to describe my feelings is like getting told "you need to go to a party this week" and im like "well they probably mean in several days" but they actually mean "tomorrow"
upper pasture
yeah but thatt's just setting up further stuff down the line
sullen dawn
San'layn armour set mog in files
ember blaze
From this description, I surmise we'll do like Reaper.
yeah thats such a nice one wtf
glass flicker
It feels bloated.
glass flicker
I disagree.
glass flicker
It has to be a melee spec, 'cause making a pistoleer spec would take too much animation work.
Ever wondered why crossbows and guns use the same animation set?
ember blaze
right im saying i want a pistol spec as a new thing lol
like i love an ability like reaper spinning and shooting around
glass flicker
Like, if I were in charge, Main Gauche would also use the pistol instead of being an offhand melee hit.
glass flicker
Go watch Equilibrium.
glass flicker
This is where bullet ballet started.
ember blaze
like a mobile gunner like that would be so cool
glass flicker
Go watch Equilibrium for the progenitors of gun-kata.
sullen dawn
I assume the killing spree change is to make it more "piratey"
glass flicker
I assume the killing spree change is to make it more "piratey"
Even though that's not even what the spec is about anymore.
sullen dawn
It is for me hehe
glass flicker
I think Outlaw's identity these days is being a badass 90's action game hero with a sword and gun.
Kinda like Dante.
glass flicker
sullen dawn
The pistol thing will suit my pirate outlaw rogue perfectly
sullen dawn
Pajamas?
glass flicker
ivory meadow
https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-gladiator-los-angel...
It is in fact exactly that
glass flicker
It is in fact exactly that
Really?
sullen dawn
You know the way we can have onyxias head on the wall in houses as a trophy
I hope they let us to similar in pvp. Like unlock orc heads to hang on the wall
ember blaze
I think Outlaw's identity these days is being a badass 90's action game hero wit...
everyone just sees it as a pirate 😂
sullen dawn
everyone just sees it as a pirate 😂
@ember blaze yep
glass flicker
Not me, not anymore.
Ever since they removed the cannon fire talent.
Also renamed Saber Slash back to Sinister Strike.
ivory meadow
Not me either and Trickster's thematic for me personally represents Outlaw's identity a bit better.
glass flicker
Honestly? The rogue hero classes don't really pop, imho. Fatebound? What's that? Why are you flipping coins for cosmic damage?
Trickster is a'ight. If a bit underwhelming since most of your stuff is passive.
sullen dawn
None of us are wrong
little hound
WHY ARE THESE COATS SO EXPENSIVE
sullen dawn
Because theyre stylin
deep pawn
Rogue's hero trees are a travesty that they haven't been reworked yet
little hound
Mmh, black or red.. I can only get 1.
glass flicker
Rogue's hero trees are a travesty that they haven't been reworked yet
I agree.
deep pawn
Blizzard went out of their way to improve hunters
little hound
Blizzard went out of their way to improve hunters
How improved we talking.
I saw Paladin tier set for 11.2. I'm staying Ret Pala.
sullen dawn
I really thoguht rogue hero specs would get a pass in 11.2
little hound
deep pawn
Packleader got reworked entirely.
little hound
Packleader got reworked entirely.
Oh? Do tell. Better or Worse ?
glass flicker
If I had to do something, I'd make the Trickster Coup de Grace animation play out every time you Dispatch, for a visual change that works.
deep pawn
but now you summon 3 different animals inspired by Rexxar
ivory meadow
https://tenor.com/view/may-i-see-it-chalmers-gif-18367950853266778478
I'll try; OBS and Shadowplay aren't particularly kind to me a lot of times
little hound
but now you summon 3 different animals inspired by Rexxar
Taking inspiration from the OG Beastmaster? Nice
Shame 11.2 Hunter tier looks like questing gear.
glass flicker
I'll try; OBS and Shadowplay aren't particularly kind to me a lot of times
I just use Xbox recorder.
Windows key + G and it just records gameplay.
Also, why does my Pistol Shot glyph not apply to Between the Eyes?
C'mon, Blizzy.
How many guns does the rogue need for all their abilities?
(Considering flintlocks are a one and done sort of gun, the very notion that Fan the Hammer exists is weird. xD)
No reloading!
sullen dawn
Yeh the pirate pistols firing multiple times is silly hehe
But its fine
I can suspend my disbelief
glass flicker
What do you call it when a Kul Tiran Outlaw Rogue fires their pistol in rapid succession?
Fan the Ham.
novel zodiac
The cloack reminds me of the WoD legendary ring
glass flicker
Interesting that it's artifact tier and not legendary.
deep pawn
yeah, the wowcast called it an artifact
sullen dawn
Maybe artifacts in midnight?
deep pawn
it's because it's not named like a Legendary
ivory meadow
@glass flicker
deep pawn
https://icons.wowdb.com/ptr/large/inv_112_ability_demonhunter_metamorphasisvoid.fee474f25f44e02939324125c855717c562065b6.jpg?61476 So mmo-c has the actual icon name, this feels like a deliberate crumb.
lavish raptor
actually u know fucking what
you know why its an artifact
they are probably gonna copy the code from this, and this is an artifact
glass flicker
<@898032970441568256>
Woulda been better if you didn't step through your target so the animation was actually visible.
novel zodiac
they are probably gonna copy the code from this, and this is an artifact
how hard could it be to change the rarity of an item?
if you're right, its lazy as fuck
novel zodiac
it's because it's not named like a Legendary
this makes more sense
sullen dawn
how hard could it be to change the rarity of an item?
From blue to purple not very hard
lavish raptor
but the thing is
ivory meadow
Woulda been better if you didn't step through your target so the animation was a...
Hang on, hang on I got this 😅
lavish raptor
"At the start of the Patch 11.2 story campaign, players will seek the aid of a 'powerful figure' who asks us to embark on a journey to gather Ethereal relics in order to coalesce them into the Reshii Wraps, a new upgradeable artifact cloak."
novel zodiac
Cool
ivory meadow
Maybe they're cooking a new proper animation.
I'll be blunt and say don't get your hopes up; it's pretty rare for the physical animation to get touched when new abilities or existing get added/updated besides visuals.
glass flicker
It's okay to dream.
glass flicker
So I said.
ember blaze
it looks like youre having a seizure
ivory meadow
It's okay to dream.
Trust me, I got enough of those to fill my entire bag space included the one Tobi posted, I'm just saying how it is most of the time; last time casting animations got updated was Legion with magic casters.
glass flicker
I don't like that they're putting a bunch of animations together instead of making a brand new one that fits everything.
ember blaze
animations do be severely lacking
and then when they update some of them, like the warrior one... it ends up as huge misses like wtf
glass flicker
They're willing to make custom chatter animations for lore characters that only speak once, but won't do anything of the sort for gameplay, that you'll see for 90% of your playtime? Get out.
ember blaze
like 20 years later and we still dont use animations with our weapons when casting magic
glass flicker
and then when they update some of them, like the warrior one... it ends up as hu...
I remember when they made Colossus Smash have three spectral weapons slam down.
Like, no.
Warriors don't summon spectral weapons out of their ass.
ember blaze
seems like theyre okay with dipping their toes on warrior using magic
glass flicker
I don't want that.
ember blaze
and it would be cool to see an actual weapon master using diff weapons
cause arms does not fulfill shit for that fantasy
glass flicker
Warriors are big strong bonk guys. You want eye candy? Play a damn paladin.
ember blaze
do the odyn dudes use lightning
glass flicker
Not really. Also, the spec is called Mountain Thane, not Valarjar.
In fact, I'm fairly certain a Valarjar hero spec would have used a lot of holy and fire damage.
ivory meadow
animations do be severely lacking
It's getting better very slowly with stuff like RTC appearing more often and stuff like the /lean emote coming into the game, which was a very highly requested emote to be added but I'm surprised it got added this soon, but a win is a win.
ember blaze
what is rtc
ivory meadow
what is rtc
real time cutscene; the high quality ones that look like an actual cutscene.
glass flicker
What I think they should do is keep the current animations/Legion era "new" animations for auto attacks, keep these baseline, and add brand new, spec-specific animations for every spec, that have a little more flair.
Also, for Brann's sake, add some more running animations with weapons out.
It's unfair that only DHs get to have a combat run.
ivory meadow
real time cutscene; the high quality ones that look like an actual cutscene.
like the one with Faerin and Anduin at
glass flicker
Outlaw Rogue does a good enough job with this already. Pistol Shot is peak. Sinister Strike and Dispatch are good. Feint, Roll the Bones, Blade Flurry?
Even Blade Rush.
They all look the same.
For Between the Eyes, I'd love for the pistol to have more recoil.
There are also a ton of ways to fire a gun than what WoW does.
novel zodiac
were the raid renown stuff datamined already for the new raid?
glass flicker
There are also a ton of ways to fire a gun than what WoW does.
Wouldn't hurt to have more anticipation frames, for your character actually taking aim. They're legitimately just flicking their hand up and a gun materializes of thin air. The animation is too fast, but the ending is good.
ember blaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQum0YvTZU
is that why the stromgarde scenes were so bad? 💀
holy fuck i was getting nauseous with the screen shake on the faerin and that one lady
and the awful facial animations
ivory meadow
There are also a ton of ways to fire a gun than what WoW does.
Me looking at FF14 yes there are 😅
deep pawn
so sounds like we just kill things around him for the first phase a la Deathwing
glass flicker
Honestly?
No boss, ever, is gonna come close to George's boss fight.
The Spawn of Mr. Clean just had the best boss fight in any game, ever.
worn crown
If the new zone in the The War Within is K'aresh, outside Azeroth, I guess now the xpac is leaning towards The "War Without" 🤪
I absolutely love that there are 3 returning SL dungeons in S3, pluss Tazavesh city hub and other connections to it (like devourers in the new delve) 🤩
Shadowlands ftw 🙂
glass flicker
Needs more Jailer.
obtuse vine
If anyone’s played on karesh yet how big does it feel? Bigger than undermine?
glass flicker
I'm sure it'll feel bigger than Undermine 'cause D.R.I.V.E. was so fast for a zone with a diameter of 1400 yards.
Maybe 1600-ish.
deep pawn
we're gonna get to fly in K'aresh though
glass flicker
Then it'll finally feel earned. K'aresh has a buncha floating masses of land.
ember blaze
the void hints were there all along 💀
deep pawn
eh?
there's a recolor that's similar to this colouring
it looks better in motion for sure, and that's just the cloth set
upper pasture
2hd DH hmmmmm
novel zodiac
<@102640546362707968>
where is this from lmao
ember blaze
where is this from lmao
idk i saw someone post it on another disc
ember blaze
2hd DH hmmmmm
perhaps theyll make scytche weapons from now on? 👀
upper pasture
one can hoppe
novel zodiac
surely, like, we got 20 of these before the Worldsoul Saga was announced lol
dense plover
<@102640546362707968>
super fake
ember blaze
whats the background tho 👀
dense plover
no way they make a DH spec that doesnt have the option of warglaives
ember blaze
true
dense plover
it also just says sword singular?
deep pawn
whats the background tho 👀
it's from K'aresh which is on ptr right now
dense plover
not swords
no way it would have that many typos
weapon choices are plural on the two actual specs
and then the fake is all singular
100% fake
deep pawn
anyway thats the surv description
nah
hunters use singular though
so only dual wielding is pluralized
Regardless, the image is likely fake cause it uses the traditional fake tricks.
uncut vault
<@102640546362707968>
Art is also recolored Hearthstone piece, blizz probably wouldn’t edit a character to non-canon look like that
deep pawn
Real leaks are just straight on images usually.
aren't most spec images from other stuff?
uncut vault
They are, but they’re unedited
Sometimes to confusing results to maintain artistic integrity, like Rexxar being the survival hunter art with dual wielding axes lol
ember blaze
does hearthstone have a void dh? 🤔
uncut vault
Not a named one, but yes
ember blaze
okay third dh spec confirmed 🥂
uncut vault
The art in this isn’t them though, it’s Aranna who is a fully fel DH
ember blaze
ah ok
i wonder if he's fully melee or if theyll do a mix
guess we gotta wait for the fight
deep pawn
yeah
austere gazelle
Will make sense for DH to be the spearhead against the void. After all they sacrificed everything to destroy the legion. They can do a little more to fight the void 🤣
lavish raptor
purpadin
lone mantle
<@102640546362707968>
Remarkable. I am considering the creation of a Demon Hunter in the near future.
ember blaze
if it's support style i definitely will
but i guess if it's fun as a pure dps i might give it a try
lone mantle
They will be able to dual-wield swords, which makes it even more interesting.
ember blaze
@austere gazellewhere did u grab these
little hound
Inb4 its just an ability cosmetic, like Warlocks and their Green Fire questline.
But i'd very much love for a 3rd and Void-themed spec for DHs.
ember blaze
Inb4 its just an ability cosmetic, like Warlocks and their Green Fire questline.
when is the last time they have done this
pulsar minnow
ok yeah so I definitely take back what i said earlier about k'aresh looking small. It looks small in the pictures but its actually a mid-sized zone. about on par with Zaralek or Emerald Dream
ember blaze
thats like the only example from like a decade ago i hear about
man i still cant connect into the ptr 🛌
deep pawn
They will be able to dual-wield swords, which makes it even more interesting.
it might be a 2hander still if they want to differentiate it
harsh mason
I already like this guy, he just filled himself with the power of Void, just gathered a gang and went to wreak havoc.
ember blaze
cba doing all this intro stuff to find that quest 🛌
harsh mason
I already like this guy, he just filled himself with the power of Void, just gat...
And all this in one day. I am sure that when he went to Karesh, this goal was not on his schedule for the day.
lone mantle
it might be a 2hander still if they want to differentiate it
It is quite unusual for an Agility-based character to wield a two-handed sword, but it makes sense if the weapon is augmented by void magic. 
deep pawn
hunters can do it now, they just haven't made many
austere gazelle
It is quite unusual for an Agility-based character to wield a two-handed sword, ...
So they'll make 2h Warglaives ? :p
I think it'll be a warScythe, a double bladed scythe
thin warren
is there a map yet from Karesh?
tropic trail
thin warren
thx! looks cool, but a bit small?
or it are big islands
seeing the pathways in the eco-dome primus it might be big isles
thin warren
yeah, that it are for sure!
uncut vault
How were you able to get past the Distilled Darkness quest? The crystals weren’t interactable for me
deep pawn
Maybe they did it first. I feel like interactables not resetting sounds like a common ptr issue
austere gazelle
How were you able to get past the Distilled Darkness quest? The crystals weren’t...
The screen are from the DH discord, its not me playing
harsh mason
The size of the location is designed for flying. Even just looking at the structures on the map, you can see that the location is quite large. I believe that the distance from Tazavesh to the raid is approximately 4,000 meters (you can check this yourself in the game by placing a marker on the map).🗿
I just don't have PTR right now…
harsh mason
lol, best achievement
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/achievement=42799/let-her-solo-me
novel zodiac
Anyone knows if the permanent Augment Rune has been datamined?, because there's something about Augment Runes that do not expire on death in the raid renown track and i dont see the point of them if there's a permanent one like we always get on the final patch of any expansion
sullen dawn
Lol
This has to be from a meme im not aware of
Lmao
Pandaren lean animation goated
harsh wedge
rain cave
Ethereal Marxism lmao
thin warren
I wonder when we will see the next season
rustic cliff
Anyone knows if the permanent Augment Rune has been datamined?, because there's ...
i'm pretty sure i saw it on the renown quartermaster
@novel zodiac
sullen dawn
Giving up materialism is kind of their thing..
😂
austere gazelle
<@238457562767294464>
100k po is a bit too much lol
It disgusted me in DF, it still disgusts me now
little hound
It disgusted me in DF, it still disgusts me now
Its just for people minmaxing, so unless that's your goal? It shouldnt bother you.
glass flicker
I hope the next patch has music on par with Undermine, at the very least.
I'm kinda tired of some of WoW's ambiental music. Undermine was great in this regard.
(Also please add boss fight soundtracks with lyrics, Blizzy, I beg you.)
little hound
(Also please add boss fight soundtracks with lyrics, Blizzy, I beg you.)
WoW aint FFXIV, so please Blizz, don't.
glass flicker
WoW aint FFXIV, so please Blizz, don't.
Shut your yaps.
little hound
Ah, my bad. Not like every other time i see you type, you quote or compare WoW to FFXIV characters or something similar.
glass flicker
I thought you were the one saying comparison is the thief of joy.
little hound
(Ngl from the previews we've gotten from WoW's Player housing? It's already beat FFXIV's..)
glass flicker
(Ngl from the previews we've gotten from WoW's Player housing? It's already beat...
Oh, I agree. In FF, you kinda need mods to make it good.
glass flicker
It must mean we'll be hit with another meteor, eh?
little hound
I don't play fire mage.
glass flicker
You can't do damage to yourself as a fire mage anyway, to my knowledge.
upper pasture
i mean if WoW can't beat FF housing since it's had what 15ish years to do so i'd be disappointed
glass flicker
I said "we."
little hound
You can't do damage to yourself as a fire mage anyway, to my knowledge.
Watch me.
Dies of Fall Damage
glass flicker
i mean if WoW can't beat FF housing since it's had what 15ish years to do so i'd...
Yeah, absolutely.
glass flicker
**Dies of Fall Damage**
Doesn't count. See? Says here, doesn't count. Every class can do that.
little hound
You didn't say it had to be SPECIFICLY Fire Mage.
glass flicker
Dummy.
little hound
glass flicker
Yeah, I did.
What I do hope, however, is that neighborhoods on RP realms don't become "cool kids clubs" that nobody else can enter because one person says so.
sullen dawn
I would, if FFXIV was the reason I brought this up, and not Souls games.
Wow should definitely copy souls games more than FF
glass flicker
Wow should definitely copy souls games more than FF
sullen dawn
The first is the most revolutionary series since 2010. The other is degenerate weeb land