Server restart. yeah
#beta-ptr-spoilers
grizzled oasis
I will say the server restarts are taking a long time still showing beta servers, offline for me are they showing offline for anyone else as well?
clear apex
Ok thanks, i was waiting until they put through the stability patches
dense plover
realms are down - stability should be improved once they put out a build
green moth
how long ago did they went offline?
rugged kindle
about 32 mins ago
dense plover
there hasnt been a new build since yesterday so we are probably waiting on a new vendor build first
i wouldnt be surprised if the new build comes a few hours from now
feral belfry
hehe, I was like might as well try the beta today see if it's running well. I guess I pick the wrong times 😛
green moth
pls don't use the details remake that's been floating around... its badly done and breaks other addons because its tainting. Just wait for tercio, I'm sure he's cooking something.
rugged kindle
I wouldn't doubt that beta won't be super stable until next week
feral belfry
is it unstable or they just taking down for a lot of patches/updates?
rugged kindle
I bet todays update fixes some of the warbands crashes/Dcs and they fix the intro questline but there will still be a ton more DCs etc
dense plover
is it unstable or they just taking down for a lot of patches/updates?
its unstable so they took it down
rugged kindle
is it unstable or they just taking down for a lot of patches/updates?
Its unplayable right now
feral belfry
that answers that haha
dense plover
theyre planning to put out a new build today that should help
feral belfry
Cool, it's a beta after all
rugged kindle
You DC anytime you change talents, accept/turn in a quest.
Basically anytime your account interacts with the warband system you DC.
feral belfry
haha
austere gazelle
You DC anytime you change talents, accept/turn in a quest.
Basically anytime y...
and right after you can't log back with your char for a solid 20 minutes average
feral belfry
I have to admit that might be slightly annoying haha.
rugged kindle
theyre planning to put out a new build today that should help
You think they are putting out a new build today, nothing like that has been confirmed.
rugged kindle
and right after you can't log back with your char for a solid 20 minutes average
and then any of the changes u made roll back xD
austere gazelle
and then any of the changes u made roll back xD
not if you made a /reload before xD
when I smell a disconnexion I had a macro ready for reload
xD
rugged kindle
ye quickly learned to do that anytime i changed ANYTHING lol
only had to redo my talents, keybinds, and spells 5 times tho
austere gazelle
That's what I love with beta, those kind of ass technic to bypass issue xD
dense plover
You think they are putting out a new build today, nothing like that has been con...
yes it has
they literally said they would put out a new build today
austere gazelle
oh it's not a new build its hotfixes
austere gazelle
not necessarily, if the hotfix affect server functions they need to take them down
dense plover
not necessarily, if the hotfix affect server functions they need to take them do...
no they dont
thats what makes them hotfixes
wintry glacier
Old build was 54888 and new one is 55000
dense plover
Old build was 54888 and new one is 55000
thats the current beta build
dense plover
I know what I'm talking about
no you dont - not for blizzard
because what you said is literally wrong
wintry glacier
thats the current beta build
yesterday it was 54888 and today 55000
austere gazelle
Its not a blizzard stuff its a common IT procedure, there is a difference between hotfix, new build and stuff
wintry glacier
y to beginning, after multi server restarts its was 54888
rugged kindle
no they dont
server side changes especially to systems like the warband system require system downtime, otherwise they risk corrupting data
austere gazelle
this is a hotfix, because it's not a major version change.
wintry glacier
kk
austere gazelle
That's how it is called in IT field
dense plover
there havent been any hotfixes - none of the hotfix monitors show changes to anything
its going to still be unstable
green moth
SERVERS ARE UP!
silent urchin
blizz doesn't use semantic versioning
green moth
silent urchin
stability fixes may well have been a server patch rather than a client patch
dense plover
there havent been any hotfixes - none of the hotfix monitors show any serverside changes
rugged kindle
Stop talking as if you know what your spewing please
dense plover
serverside changes still show up on the hotfix monitors
silent urchin
Only if it affects the data visible to the client
we never see any of the actual code running on the servers
rugged kindle
Maybe they didn't push the change to any of the places the monitors are watching, again you don't know what your talking about and just speculating but phrasing it as if it were facts.
dense plover
we never see any of the actual code running on the servers
we can still see when servers get a hotfix update of some kind - the internal version comes back different
dense plover
Maybe they didn't push the change to any of the places the monitors are watching...
ive been doing datamining since legion, i actually kinda do know what im talking about
rugged kindle
datamining is client side stuff
dense plover
not necessarily
rugged kindle
you cant access server sides code or changes
dense plover
no you cant see the changes
but the version of the server is still communicated to the client
austere gazelle
Oh dear.
dense plover
it sends certain info
rugged kindle
If they incriment the version
dense plover
they always increment the version
rugged kindle
Not every code change requires a version incriment
dense plover
AFAIK, blizz tools dont allow changes without a version increment
shrewd hawk
Let him speak guys, he's an expert, he does datamining
rugged kindle
Sorry do you work for the wow dev team? Do you know their internal policy on version numbers?
austere gazelle
xD
shrewd hawk
( /s)
wintry glacier
xD
dense plover
Sorry do you work for the wow dev team? Do you know their internal policy on ver...
no but i had a friend who did
thats how i first got alpha access years ago
im on the Friends and Family list
rugged kindle
AFAIK, blizz tools dont allow changes without a version increment
LOL so you know what their internal tooles require nice gues you got that from datamining?
dense plover
god your a jerk
feral belfry
Only list I'm on from Blizzard is the "watch list"
shrewd hawk
"I'm an expert, I have a friend who works at Blizz"
rugged kindle
^
dense plover
"I'm an expert, I have a friend who works at Blizz"
go look at how long ive been on this server my guy
ive literally given dates for betas and alphas in the past that i got from my contact
shrewd hawk
that doesn't make you right when you talk
dense plover
you dont have to believe me - you can go back through the history of the channel
austere gazelle
11.0.1.1561987 => Major.minor.patch.hotfix/very small changes
Its a common ground in every IT , its how versionning change and is recommended on gitlab, github, and all the versioning tools
shrewd hawk
You're not working in IT as it seems, especially dev ops or server maintenance. So don't try to brag about other stuffs that have nothing to do with this technical subject.
rugged kindle
Well, just to let you know Mr. Friends and Family.
As someone who has a job as a software engineer who predominantly deals with backend infrastructure it is fairly uncommon to change a client-communicated version number unless you are changing something that directly changes the way the client interacts with the server.
In this case if what they did is what I suspect which is fix the issues communicating with the warband system causing DCs there would be no need to incriment the version number as all they are doing is fixing query strings and or API returns to stop throwing errors.
shrewd hawk
Well, just to let you know Mr. Friends and Family.
As someone who has a job as ...
Sure but do you have any friend working at Blizz ?
dense plover
IF they put out fixes - why is character copy still broken?
why are people still DCing regularly?
austere gazelle
Well, just to let you know Mr. Friends and Family.
As someone who has a job as ...
moreover, they can also do API number change on their side, but not necessarily on the client
shrewd hawk
why are people still DCing regularly?
Tell me you don't work in IT wihtout telling me you don't work in IT
wintry glacier
@dense plover pls tell your friend @blizz - spawn the fkn adds
dense plover
<@117691857911152645> pls tell your friend @blizz - spawn the fkn adds
that event isnt gonna be tested here
its the prepatch event
rugged kindle
Most API routes don't even regard any sort of numerical versioning system other than their internal historical tracking (such as git)
dense plover
its going to be tested on ptr when it goes live next week assuming scheduling follows DF
also my friend at blizz doesnt work on the retail wow team anymore - he got moved during DF to classic
dense plover
<@117691857911152645> pls tell your friend @blizz - spawn the fkn adds
go test the actual expac - thats the point of the beta
crystal pond
Drama 🍿
rugged kindle
That event will 100% be fixed and tested on the beta version LOL
wintry glacier
🍿
dense plover
they changed what weapons are rewarded from quests
rugged kindle
its a requirment to prgoress the intro to the xpac unless u manually teleport to one of the zones
austere gazelle
playing right now, it's a lot more stable than before
I could handle several quest instantly without being DC
dense plover
this quest here used to reward one of the elemental leafy axe models they added
wintry glacier
That event will 100% be fixed and tested on the beta version LOL
sure, its the fkn BETA xD
thats the point
elder seal
i suppose thats what you get for never having seperate beta servers for EU / US players
dense plover
https://i.imgur.com/IPuBTbd.png
there were changes made during alpha that werent in the alpha changelog
fyi
shrewd hawk
Sure but my friend's uncle at Blizz told me they did not make any change :(
rugged kindle
there were changes made during alpha that werent in the alpha changelog
Exactly, you literally just disproved yourself LOL
elder seal
You people sure are insintent on trolling huh
dense plover
Exactly, you literally just disproved yourself LOL
no i didnt
they were in the file changes
they just didnt post them on the forums
thats not at all what i was talking about
elder seal
Would be probably just better to ignore those 2 by now peach 😂 ...
dense plover
dataminers knew about the underkeep weeks ago
green moth
can you guys just stop comparing pp sizes?
dense plover
i literally ran it as the underkeep
dense plover
Would be probably just better to ignore those 2 by now peach 😂 ...
i think i have to
rugged kindle
You were arguing that any and all changes would be caught by the changelog scrapers
dense plover
You were arguing that any and all changes would be caught by the changelog scrap...
THEY WERE
crystal pond
Devs can change and fix things middle fight lmao
The only time when changelogs/updates happen is when major codes are being touched
When its beta the code is so broken they need to change the whole patch
dense plover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwk-cKZe4 here is nobbel running the delve after they changed the name to underkeep
3 weeks ago
it just wasnt in the blue post on the forum
rugged kindle
But that is just not true, not every change will be logged to the public...
I guarantee you they have a checkbox when submitting an update on weather to make it a public change or keep it internal.
Why do you think we don't see security, anti-cheet, or risk changes logged?
dense plover
But that is just not true, not every change will be logged to the public...
I g...
that doesnt mean it doesnt show up in datamining
rugged kindle
it does tho
dense plover
stuff like string changes arent in the changelog
dense plover
the name of a delve is client facing
and you just said we didnt know when we did
but because blizz didnt post about it, it means they made a change and no one knew
and it didnt take a patch or hotfix
rugged kindle
ii think ur lost
dense plover
even though it was literally part of a build several weeks ago
rugged kindle
cause im not arguing that
dense plover
Exactly, you literally just disproved yourself LOL
yes you did
right here
im done
Rantsi is right
you're blocked
i dont like blizz selling beta access
elder seal
Id otherwise agree but i wouldnt get access under the table just for WoWhead screenshots haha. I already "learned my lessons" in cata as i never got closed beta after that. was mainly just focusing taking screenshots to WoWhead rather than reporting the bugs.
elder seal
I mean sure i reported some during cata closed beta too but that was only if i really got stuck. honestly i dont rmbr getting stuck even once during cata beta
dense plover
i report A LOT of bugs
crystal pond
I always think that you doing free job for blizzard by fully testing their games
dense plover
I always think that you doing free job for blizzard by fully testing their games
i get to play the game for free tho
at least the alpha/beta
rugged kindle
I'm not trying to troll you or anything I just don't like how you talk to people or how you talk as if your word is 100% all the time.
I was arguing that not every server side change will be reported, nor will any server-side only change be able to be datamined as we don't get access to any server side coding.
dense plover
i can unsub if i want to
and ill still keep alpha/beta access
plus i also get to make forum posts and affect change
a lot of my feedback about delves has actually worked
even the intro delve saw some significant change with the launch of beta that makes it play a lot better
and i can see some of my feedback in those changes
would i like to get paid? sure
would the job be worse b/c i wouldnt have free choice? yes
crystal pond
Ye devs listen thats good
Not always cause its blizzard lol but still its nice too see that some devs still have humanity in them and work for the project and listen to community
elder seal
I sometimes jokingly said that wouldnt it be great updating databases all day and getting paid from it. But that would probably suck all fun out of it. Just like i gave up after studying 3 years of coding onze i realized i dont actually want to do this as paid work and rather enjoy it.
rugged kindle
Coding can be fun in a professional enviroment. I myself am a work from home SE (Software engineer) and as long as I get my assigned work doen on time I pretty much set my own hours though I am still paid 40 hours a week
icy laurel
any update on when copying to Aleria will be possible?
rugged kindle
But burn out can set in fast if you have a bad project manager lol
crystal pond
Any job is like that lolz
rugged kindle
QA testers cant
but they also get paid e.e
whole skiff
Are seevers are up?
wintry glacier
y
glacial dust
is tww beta dps meter available yet?
whole skiff
is this working for you guys? its been like this for whole day
dense plover
is this working for you guys? its been like this for whole day
character copy is disabled - its broken
also you cant progress the story
there is a dungeon requirement halfway through but the dungeon now requires level 80
thats 100% going to require a hotfix
austere gazelle
grind mobs and delve till you're 80 xD
dense plover
grind mobs and delve till you're 80 xD
tbh i forgot to check if they fixed delve xp
previously they didnt give any (bug)
idk if its fixed or not
rugged kindle
is this working for you guys? its been like this for whole day
Been disabled since yesterday, probably causing server stability issues will prob be back once they confirm stability issues resolved
austere gazelle
I just made one, I'm not sure it gave me xp
but i was disconnected three time at the end so I'm not sure it worked properly to begin with
austere gazelle
is this working for you guys? its been like this for whole day
I advise you to make a premade char because the Radiant song event will lock you out with a copied char
rugged kindle
is tww beta dps meter available yet?
A version was posted in this chat yesterday, though its non-english search details in this chat
deep pawn
Recommend not to use it if you're using any other beta addons. It's non official from the details devs and will mess up other addons
rugged kindle
and also might contain malicious code e.e
thin warren
that's just peachy
dense plover
cant continue the story - dungeon thats required is now locked to level 80
needs a hotfix
deep pawn
people gotta stop looting in dungeons
pulsar minnow
Hey @dense plover you put in a lot of feedback for the intro delve right? Do you know if it’s working rn for you in beta? I tried running it earlier and the npcs wouldn’t spawn. Put in a bug report but idk if you’ve had issues with that either
Wanted to make sure I’m not crazy
elder seal
Hmm you people who have played in Beta so Far, any notices which one of the servers been more quiet?? Khadgar or ALleria?
Kinda having hard time to take screenshots of introduction quests for time being cause questgivers are packed as much as this would be live
If there was a function to hide all players i probably would 😂
upper pasture
just use the corgi glasses 🤣 oh wait that would make the npcs corgis too
pulsar minnow
just use the corgi glasses 🤣 oh wait that would make the npcs corgis too
It would fix the npcs
Nobody cares about thrall or anduin or Jaina
We want corgis.
The Corg Within
dense plover
Hey <@117691857911152645> you put in a lot of feedback for the intro delve right...
i ran it flawlessly last night
its entirely the server issues causing the problems
the delve isnt broken
pulsar minnow
Gotcha I’ll check it out again tn
dense plover
intro delve felt fucking great tbh
austere gazelle
Kinda having hard time to take screenshots of introduction quests for time being...
I have the impression that both server are on the same cluster. seeing people from kadghar here on alleria
pulsar minnow
There were also no npcs on the same char in one of the other delves
Might be my character
austere gazelle
Are delve level unlocked per character or per warband?
dense plover
its probably MEANT to be per warband but i have no idea tbh
they only implemented requiring the previous tier like 2 builds ago
and making a character right now is a pain
austere gazelle
I'll make a feedback about it, cause it'll be dumb to be by character when you can trade stuff to your warband, some character might be overgeared for a +1 so having to unlock all the level for each char will probably be painful
dense plover
I'll make a feedback about it, cause it'll be dumb to be by character when you c...
dont make a feedback until we know for sure
i can check if the achieves are accountwide
dense plover
its a warband achieve afaict
dense plover
Cant go out, my HS use the cd but does nothing xD
relog, try again, repeat until it works
so delve tiers are probably unlocked accountwide
austere gazelle
make sense
gloomy tangle
Cant go out, my HS use the cd but does nothing xD
I was able to hearth out but it dropped me in the middle of the great sea in a fatigue section. Couldn’t mount, had to use the dalaran HS lol.
dense plover
if u guys get lynx mounts llemme kno where
just search on wowhead
feral belfry
ugh
dense plover
one of them is a rep reward from hallowfall you can purchase
feral belfry
I can't even get past Azeroth's Voice haha
everytime you talk to Jaina it kicks you out and your locked out for like 30min character already logged in tried multiple times with deleting the char lol
uncut lintel
one of them is a rep reward from hallowfall you can purchase
they all have things or are some still PH?
dense plover
yeah its server issues
feral belfry
I'm guessing that teleports you to the new area or something?
dense plover
they all have things or are some still PH?
idk, check wowhead
search the word lynx
go to items
uncut lintel
okay
dense plover
I'm guessing that teleports you to the new area or something?
not sure - its just the server being overwhelmed by too many requests
this is honestly the best stress test theyre gonna get
feral belfry
not sure - its just the server being overwhelmed by too many requests
ahh, I thought maybe firing off a teleport and then got a request denied haha. Oh well prob best I try next week some testing.
My guess their purposely throttling things
Like you said best stress test their going to get
so they prob want to see peformance numbers
Applying talents lua error I swear I seen that on many past ptr's, and even beta's before. IDK why that is a thing, I'm sure there is a reason I know it will be resolved. But always wondered why it was a thing
Like maybe special debug code running that ends up triggering it
dense plover
Applying talents lua error I swear I seen that on many past ptr's, and even beta...
this is a new one afaict
i legit think its just the servers being overwhelmed or the new talent loadout limit having bugs
deep pawn
city of threads is so buggy
deep pawn
worst dungeon I've been in and I keep getting it
icy laurel
i got dcd 20mins ago....when i try to get back into server i get a "a character with that name already exists" error....well duh what can I do?
deep pawn
you wait
gloomy tangle
Create a new character in the mean time
green moth
you come chatting here for 30 mins or so
deep pawn
yeah, I give up making this dungeon work, it's just too buggy
green moth
I just did the light dungeon, idc what the name is
something with paladins and priests
first boss hit very hard, Idk what we did wrong
elder seal
I have the impression that both server are on the same cluster. seeing people fr...
Oof then its going to be tough. even worse when it becomes Open beta.
green moth
I don't think there will be an open beta
austere gazelle
Yeah just wave
green moth
that would be a punch in the face to everyone who bought epic edition just for the beta access
an open beta
I expect them to do waves indeed, when people stop "testing" and they need fresh testers
deep pawn
beta servers are always connected
pulsar minnow
I don’t think blizz has ever done an open beta. Just random invites and maybe codes
This expac and mop were the only ones who included it with preorder
dense plover
its never worked out well
unless the intention was to get a lot of people to slam the servers
in which case this was great
pulsar minnow
But now it’s hard to test anything 😄
deep pawn
MoP wasn't preorder, it was annual pass only.
And even then that was spread out over multiple weeks
I forget how bad things were in Cata, but giving away a game, beta access, and a mount was a lot
dense plover
new hotfixes just went out
idk what they do tho
86434 hopefully fixes the dungeons being level locked
¯_(ツ)_/¯
nope
zealous sedge
I love how everyone was hating on the paladin tier sets but the animation on the wings is so fun imo
upper pasture
People are hating on it? I just was expecting it to be static and not moving lol
deep pawn
I'm gonna try swapping to dx11 legacy
zealous sedge
People are hating on it? I just was expecting it to be static and not moving lol
I saw some hate when they were first datamined a while ago haha
deep pawn
they aren't priest sets so they hate it
dense plover
I only wanted the wings to be a back piece
then everyone would want a backpiece
the effects have always been on shoulders going back to at least TBC
zealous sedge
I really don’t know if I should test beta or keep going in remix. I’m so behind on my remix progression but also feel a bit burned out by it tbh.
dense plover
I really don’t know if I should test beta or keep going in remix. I’m so behind ...
wait a few days
beta is still messy
cant progress basic leveling due to a dungeon being unplayable because of a missing hotfix
mossy flare
is there details for beta yet?
zealous sedge
Word I was thinking it’s still too wonky
zealous sedge
is there details for beta yet?
Could you be more specific? Beta is live
clear apex
I'm just waiting on stability
deep pawn
dx11 might be working better
I didn't even think about it at first cause on retail WoW doesn't load at all
hollow tundra
where is the location to enter in to the war within in the beta?
I know it is west of pandoria but where exactly?
feral belfry
I'm waiting on Peach to write me a 1000 word essay on why Beta is more stable before play it again 😛
pulsar minnow
where is the location to enter in to the war within in the beta?
I know it is we...
where you spawn in on beta after creating a character there should be a portal to dalaran. From there you talk to this Wayfinder Tauren and pick which zone you want to play
dense plover
dense plover
I'm waiting on Peach to write me a 1000 word essay on why Beta is more stable be...
depends on if we get the hotfixes serverside after restart
dense plover
servers are back
dense plover
not much more stable, no fixes to the rookery still
also bugs from alpha are back
the bug where gear upgrades result in ilvl decreasing is back!
From a treasure
silver imp
does anyone know if the isle of dorn is bugged? I was doing the main storyline and now there are no quests to pickup. I made it to just before this point and there's nothing on the map to pickup a main quest
dense plover
does anyone know if the isle of dorn is bugged? I was doing the main storyline a...
there should be quests in that area
silver imp
yea there are side quests
dense plover
they might be hidden if you DC'd
silver imp
but i never got the next MSQ
silver imp
you were able to complete isle of dorn msq, including unlocking delves?
dense plover
unlocking delves yes
silver imp
dense plover
the whole thing no
silver imp
dense plover
adelgon found is the MSQ
the fourth seat
that IS the MSQ
i know the map icon isnt a pentagram, ive reported that a bunch
silver imp
oh okay, it's just not marked as main quest, got it
dense plover
yes - they changed the in progress icons and havent fixed the MSQ in progress icon
silver imp
thanks for the help
dense plover
feel free to report the in progress icon not showing the quest as a campaign quest
silver imp
is there a way to go to the other zones to do their quests after i finish up in dorn?
silver imp
well, I mean once I get as far as I can
dense plover
you would have to make a new character then when you get to dalaran, talk to the tauren guy and choose a different zone
silver imp
at the beginning there was a tauren npc that let me pick which zone to go to, but now he only has dorn
ahhh
dense plover
at the beginning there was a tauren npc that let me pick which zone to go to, bu...
new character
silver imp
so maybe i shouldn't have picked dorn first
dense plover
might be able to do ringing deeps and continue linearly from there
dense plover
so maybe i shouldn't have picked dorn first
i mean, nothing wrong with wanting to test the full storyline
it just needs a hotfix to playerdata to fix dungeon levels
deep pawn
It feels weird cause 80s can do the rookery
dense plover
It feels weird cause 80s can do the rookery
yes - because the problem is that all dungeons are set to level 80 only
the rookery and 3 others are supposed to be leveling dungeons
deep pawn
Oh
dense plover
and because its 80 only, you cant do the quest in your early 70s
the need to hotfix playerdata
wintry yew
any 3s healers in beta that want to queue
dense plover
any 3s healers in beta that want to queue
not the place to ask
wintry yew
not the place to ask
Where is that place
wintry yew
ask in game my guy
makes sense, thank you
dense plover
especially since only one of 3 servers has queueable content
deep pawn
I need to give feedback that the rookery needs a way back up since it's not clear the route you should take
They need to give beta forum access
wintry yew
Lua error for submitting a bug 😦
dense plover
Lua error for submitting a bug 😦
That doesn’t sound right - Lua error is probably from something else
silent urchin
I had it a couple times on alpha, sometimes it swaps to "report a bug with follower AI" which wasn't working
dense plover
I had it a couple times on alpha, sometimes it swaps to "report a bug with follo...
i didnt get a lua error when that happened
that just happened
mossy flare
is the campaign questline locked?
dense plover
is the campaign questline locked?
if you make an 80 character yes
mossy flare
its not 80
dense plover
if you make a leveling character you do the dalaran intro and then pick a zone
if you are at the rookery quest, its broken
dense plover
they need to hotfix the dungeon - right now it is locked to requiring level 80 even though its a leveling dungeon
its a pretty easy hotfix, itll probably happen tomorrow
tiny stream
I think the issue is that level scaling for the leveling dungeons hasn't been done yet.
Anyways: I know it's been a buggy two days, but I had a blast and wrote about aton of things I did/discovered on the beta including my laughably bad experience fishing and thoughts on how Dorn's short story really hurt the experience of traveling through the Isle of Dorn.
https://open.substack.com/pub/nathanpayson/p/the-war-within-beta-day-12-impressions?r=q0umr&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
dense plover
I think the issue is that level scaling for the leveling dungeons hasn't been do...
They worked in alpha
They have been done
They fucked something up
You’re also missing half of Dorns story
And there’s a ton of story on the isle at max level
Also a ton of side stories
tiny stream
And there’s a ton of story on the isle at max level
I know, and the whole story isnt done, but it still doesnt fix that what we have feels rushed and missing alot of beats. Theyve changed how they want to deliver the story, I'm just not sold on those changes given what I've played. Especially compared to zone stories like what we just replayed in Mists of Pandaria, the story isn't really enabling a sense of exploration with how short it is. It may just require a rethinking of how i should view wows story, but most side quests are kind forgettable even if they have actual substance.
upper edge
Frostfire bolt that’s it.
dense plover
I know, and the whole story isnt done, but it still doesnt fix that what we have...
First of all, the story is done. It was finished on alpha. They don’t make story changes once beta hits. Secondly, this is pretty standard for zones from shadowlands forward where you don’t see the whole thing and do 500 quests in a zone and burn out at low levels because now you come back at max level.
How much time do you spend in jade forest at 70? Pretty much none, but you’re going to spend a ton of time in the isle of dorm at 70. If you had to explore the entire zone to finish it, you would be bored of the zone before max level. What you are suggesting doesn’t make sense for zones 2-3x the size of pandaria zones
gloomy tangle
Try setting them up and then logging out naturally. That seemed to fix most of the issues I was having.
green moth
I've done that 3 times now
silent urchin
The main story questline is really just the main story now. Everything else is a side quest. If you do everything I feel like the zones are still pretty much the same as DF zones
warm topaz
The main story questline is really just the main story now. Everything else is a...
in terms of quests? size?
silent urchin
Both really. General content I guess
warm topaz
but in terms of gameplay?
silent urchin
granted I never tested much of the max level experience so dunno if world quests hold up
cosmic beacon
Twitter
deep pawn
Woot
tropic trail
Drakthyr mage 🧙♂️
deep pawn
He got an interview?
fluid owl
any damage metter to use on the tww beta?
deep pawn
Oh, that video was just recapping what we already knew eh
Anyone who got beta access get beta forum permission yet?
clear apex
I hope they'll surprise us with expanded visagev forms
Also ion in that video "yeah we dunno how X race druid would work culturally" uhm well we did just do emerald dream my guy
I'm sure some goblin or whatever might get inspired, draenei got inspired enough to use fel magic to be warlocks
silent urchin
it's from the alpha launch event interview stuff they did
uncut vault
The excuse of “how do we fit it culturally” kind of fell out the window the moment they did maghar warlocks lmao
silent urchin
And it's nothing really fully confirmed, afaik Ion is on record saying nothing new for launch
grizzled oasis
Anyone else having issues with the Radiant Echo's? Ragnoros isn't respawning or is he just on a very long spawn timer.
silent urchin
so it's down the line somewhere for patch content
uncut vault
Feels like it’s just an asset issue they don’t want to be up front about
silent urchin
afaik the radiant echoes event isn't enabled on beta, so you can't do any of the quests
clear apex
And it's nothing really fully confirmed, afaik Ion is on record saying nothing n...
Pretty much only that dracthyr will be more classes sometime "early" during tww
pulsar minnow
Also ion in that video "yeah we dunno how X race druid would work culturally" uh...
i think its more of a "how the heck would that look" because Druidism and Paladins and more of those thematic classes have pretty rigid aesthetics going for them
a robot cat would just be weird next to someone like cenarius
clear apex
i think its more of a "how the heck would that look" because Druidism and Paladi...
I figure that's the real reason, but using the culture excuse is just that, an excuse
deep pawn
I mean they made an earthen paladin mount
They just don't wanna do that for all the races that need paladins yet
molten niche
anyone still getting non stop d/c while playing
pulsar minnow
I mean they made an earthen paladin mount
well yeah but paladins are fitting for Earthen - considering Tyr and stuff
molten niche
the beta
silent urchin
definitely a bit of an excuse. I suspect they just didn't think too much about mag'har warlocks and threw it in cause regular orcs can be warlocks
clear apex
We still need updated paladin mounts and some class mounts in general
deep pawn
No class is fitting for Earthen, they literally just download memories of what class they want.
grizzled oasis
anyone still getting non stop d/c while playing
So far I have not.
deep pawn
Only one that wouldn't fit is druid cause they're literal rocks, and DK cause again, no flesh
molten niche
try to log back in get character still on lol
clear apex
Yeah there's still stability issues and afaik they haven't put out a patch for that yet?
uncut vault
Druid is in fact more fitting for Earthen than most of the others, because they specifically have a sect of grove tenders dedicated to Freya
deep pawn
I was a lot more stable last night when I swapped graphics to dx11 legacy
uncut vault
It’s ingrained into their culture far more than monks or rogues
deep pawn
I'm actually stunned the beta loaded at all with dx12 so either blizzard or AMD fixed something
clear apex
Ion didn't deny or confirm dracthyr druid though and honestly, they fit that really well since they're apart of the green flight
deep pawn
It’s ingrained into their culture far more than monks or rogues
I guess bears turning to rock isn't unheard of, but still haven't seen many rocky races be druids so far.
uncut vault
I mean, this was an artifact form in Legion :P
clear apex
A bear form from emerald dream is also a rock? The aerostar(?)
I think that's his name
deep pawn
Regardless they didn't make earthen druids
clear apex
Id be happy if they said "hey heres druids but until next expac you're getting these generic forms" such as the unlocked forms from legion and df
And they just slowly work on adding race specific ones
pulsar minnow
Earthen Druids make even more sense considering Freya and Eonar
And the presence of Elun'ahir right underneath them
Also- just found this and thought it was neat. there's a portal into azj-kahet in hallowfall that avoids the round-about routes
clear apex
Nice
pulsar minnow
There's aparently more of them. They're called Nerubian Chutes
silent urchin
there's also a couple elevators between ringing depths and the surface
I don't think there's any way to skip from hallowfall to dorn or depths
pulsar minnow
the only issue with these new zones I'm having really has to do with the maps and how they don't really mark the paths to the surface very well
silent urchin
It will probably be clearer on the finished maps
pulsar minnow
It will probably be clearer on the finished maps
probably, but overall their new map ui additions are pretty sick
I love the rep capital icon marking for Mereldar, Dornogal, Gundargaz, etc..
uncut lintel
DRACHTYR CLASSES WARRIOR MAGE AEDJOF
tiny stream
I don't think there's any way to skip from hallowfall to dorn or depths
There are some portals you unlock in renown including one from dorn to azj'kahet.
silent urchin
there's a decent chance they up the char limit again
dense plover
Restriction will probably drop at the launch of TWW since they won’t start at high level
uncut lintel
omg i wish xpac out now i love dracthyr D:
warm topaz
DRACHTYR CLASSES WARRIOR MAGE AEDJOF
did you see any cat in Khaz Algar Kitty?
uncut lintel
wot?
warm topaz
i mean, you like cats right?
uncut lintel
yae but i dont gt what u mean
warm topaz
i remember some conversations about cat mounts cat pets etc...
wonder if you have seen one in TWW so far
uncut lintel
i dont have beta but yea ive seen them on wowhead but they are still PH mostly so waitiing to kno how to get them
warm topaz
cool!
silent urchin
there's one from arathi renown but I think that's the only one with a source
uncut lintel
yea
so this is the xpac i gotta farm renown again for cat gain, i skipped DF renown mostly
but DF doesnt have cat
so not worth
icy laurel
ive made some progress on my addons....but what I see missing on my addons is the "Profiles" i had saved on the retail version. So it doesnt seem that transering the folders from retail to beta contains these profiles. Does anyone know if I can copy the retail addon profiles into the beta version? If so, where exactly are they or how to do it? thanks
dense plover
ive made some progress on my addons....but what I see missing on my addons is th...
pretty sure the profiles thing IS an addon
i dont believe thats a base game feature
tiny stream
They probaly wont raise the character limit, because almost everything will be cross server now
Including the start screen for your warband
dense plover
They probaly wont raise the character limit, because almost everything will be c...
thats not what we were saying
theres a 1 per realm dracthyr restriction
it will be lifted at some point
probably after they start at level 10 instead of 58
tiny stream
thats not what we were saying
Oh yeah. I think itll be with patch 10.0.5 with the dracthyr class options
dense plover
i bet the restriction lifts with the prepatch actually
since thats when DF leveling becomes standard
tiny stream
i bet the restriction lifts with the prepatch actually
Youd think that wouldve been announced by now right?
dense plover
why?
whats the point in announcing it?
they announced that it WOULD be lifted soon
feral belfry
So how are things going with the server Peach?
dense plover
So how are things going with the server Peach?
still waiting on the dungeon fix
idk if servers are more stable but you cant progress the story so im waiting
feral belfry
Yeah, going to wait also for that one. Thanks mate.
green moth
attempt #6 to play storyline without DCing and having to redo my bars
feral belfry
attempt #6 to play storyline without DCing and having to redo my bars
just logout /close client then go do it so you don't have to redo bars/shortcuts, etc
green moth
I've tried that, 6 times
I setup my bars > logout by typing /logout and then logging in again and they are gone like magic
and the worst part, its on a druid, with paging bars for each stance 
icy laurel
pretty sure the profiles thing IS an addon
well i dont think so...because when I open any addon and there is a profiles dropdown....there are none of the profiles for the toons i have on retail
dense plover
well i dont think so...because when I open any addon and there is a profiles dro...
those are saved to the characters
ofc theyre not there
it cant copy settings for characters that dont exist
most addons also ARENT updated for TWW
so youre gonna run into issues
dusk dagger
is beta stableish yet?
pulsar minnow
For me it’s pretty stable
dense plover
stable, just cant progress isle of dorn story
tepid fiber
tropic trail
He survived Dalaran explosion 💥 so maybe he knows where is Khadgar 🤔
upper pasture
He survived Dalaran explosion 💥 so maybe he knows where is Khadgar 🤔
Xal’atath’s basement
tropic trail
Haha 😂
still mantle
is anyone else having a problem with ariving at the isle of dorn from the tauren in dalaran and it says out of bounds and it teles you back to stormwind
im on visions of azeroth and im to the part where you talk to the quest tauren and when i click on take me to the isle of dorn to continue the campaign it teleports me then when i arrive it says out of bounds
and teles me back to sw
dense plover
new vendor build
austere gazelle
dungeon were hotfixed , campaign was resumable :p
austere gazelle
and teles me back to sw
premade char, or copied one?
dense plover
dungeon were hotfixed , campaign was resumable :p
when?
austere gazelle
Strange. I know they blocked the copied one to be teleported but the premade one buggy is ... strange
still mantle
mine gives me a debuf called out of bounds and after like 4 seconds i get teled back to sw
no matter what i do
austere gazelle
humpf sounds like an issue you can't bypass <_<
still mantle
i know i wanna play it
austere gazelle
try to switch server and do all the step you did
still mantle
it worked on alleria but for some reason the this goes to eleven one or what ever it is doesnt work
austere gazelle
oh, this is perfectly normal
The "This goes to eleven " is a max content server test. you can't do outdoor questing
still mantle
oooooh makes sense now
austere gazelle
well guys, its past midnight here, good night and have fun ! see ya tomorrow 😄
dense plover
all leveling dungeons are fixed
deep pawn
they apparenlty buffed the hell out of armor on beta per Archimtiros
elder seal
dang i was so hopefull. finally seeing the server bit emptier than it used to be
still too many ppl at the silithus 😛
If ppl would just stop afking next to the Qgivers / NPC:s
dense plover
If ppl would just stop afking next to the Qgivers / NPC:s
theyre not afk
theyre DCing and reconnecting
theyre going to need to find some kind of solution for this at launch
one of the npcs is a druid - earthen druid is possible
tulip sun
Huh. What is it actually?
silent urchin
I dunno if I'd consider them a druid in lore
They're definitely earthern that use life based magic
but making them a druid for the sake of follower dungeons feels like a kinda game mechanic thing
dense plover
i think they changed the name of the skardyn in the rookery - i called this out in a bug report because its a spoiler for the ringing deeps
ancient jasper
We've had a Night Elf Paladin since Legion and nothing has come of that, so.. shrug
dense plover
where is this?
ionic terrace
rookery at the bottom of the tower
dense plover
report it - i missed it
they arent supposed to be called skardyn b/c you learn about skardyn in ringing deeps
ionic terrace
well tbh i think they despawn at some point after one of the bosses
but yeah i will
feels like these npcs do a ton more damahe
don't feel like i'm even needed lol
clear apex
Nice, i was able to log on and play for an hour without any trouble. Had a couple quests that completed before they should have. And was able to copy my hunter and get her to Dorn
Dorn is SO pretty
opal spruce
Spanish?
pulsar minnow
so something Im realizing with beta, though I know plenty already know this - not all hero talents are made equal
I really wish every talent tree just had like one new button to press, because man does it feel crappy to have- using ret paladins as an example - Hammer of Light as this insanely cool ability, then for Herald of the Sun just... give Word of Glory a few new sparkles. Its not really anything that can change so significantly at this point in development, but man I wish it was
deep pawn
That's by design, some hero talents are meant to be a lot more passive
dense plover
theres a weekly wax collection
uncut vault
What zone is that in?
pulsar minnow
Hallowfall
During the quest "The Bastion of Hallowfall" in the bar you can talk and ask alleria how she's doing
pulsar minnow
During the quest "The Bastion of Hallowfall" in the bar you can talk and ask all...
and get a prompt where you can ask "Is Vereesa safe?"
Anduin and Alleria I believe have dialogue for your character if you did Argus/Sepulcher
I know this isn't a screenshot channel but god Hallowfall is absolutely gorgeous
dense plover
it is
it has some questionable mob choices tho
like - why are there bears?
how did bears even get down there?
dense plover
whats the current one?
dense plover
they actually made it weaker lol
report it
ionic terrace
wind bobcat
No damage meters for tww beta yet?
deep pawn
details has a preliminary version, on curseforge or wago swap to alpha builds
dense plover
they did it! they synced the light to the questline
feral belfry
I know this isn't a screenshot channel but god Hallowfall is absolutely gorgeous
Since were in spoiler mode, this is the perfect place for any PTR/Beta Screenshots fyi.
pulsar minnow
Yeah I figured it was the best place to put it. I’ve been pretty active during the past few beta cycles since like BFA but with this one and all the people popping in and out, just figured I’d put a little disclaimer
zealous sedge
I reported this bug, but does anyone else have their mailbox being clogged by Emerald Ephemera?
dense plover
nope
dense plover
I reported this bug, but does anyone else have their mailbox being clogged by Em...
did you copy your character?
its 100% synced to story
if you logout and beledar has gone to day, itll turn to night immediately
and when you exit the cave it immediately turns to day
zealous sedge
did you copy your character?
Yeah it was character copy
I just logged in for the 1st a little bit ago go
dense plover
Yeah it was character copy
yeah character copy was disabled because stuff is broken
zealous sedge
Yeah that makes sense. I was able to copy over in the first hour it was live before they disabled it. I was surprised to see my character still there.
dense plover
they gave the innkeep unique on click dialogue and her own voice actor
they added a new stay a while and listen dialogue between general steelstrike and her daughter who is the quartermaster
this implies the arathi actually are aware of the old gods
so there were almost certainly more than 4
since the 4 old gods we knew were all on this side of azeroth
literally
its so much more impressive when it happens synced
this animation is SO slick
and it goes back as part of the story
amazing
zealous sedge
That looks so dope
I finally played through the harbinger questline in live (haven’t had a ton of time to play recently) and started diving into beta and I can really feel a shift in the storytelling
dense plover
so - im level 76 and entering azj-kahet - might still need to tweak XP more - especially since i did do some side quests
another sojourner achievement is in this build - holy shit are there a lot of side quests
she has voice acting now - its troll-like
but more refined
its like - halfway between troll and elf almost?
it sounds like - south african almost?
dense plover
Alone in the Dark is bugged just like it was in alpha before it was hotfixed
i think they forgot to bake some of the alpha hotfixes and so now those issues are back
zealous sedge
This is really minor, but are the radiant echoes spawn timers supposed to be this long? The event is for Onyxia right now and people have been waiting here for over an hour
Also I won’t lie the event feels a little underwhelming. Not sure if they will have more things to do that’s not being tested publicly?
dense plover
This is really minor, but are the radiant echoes spawn timers supposed to be thi...
We don’t know - they didn’t exist during alpha
zealous sedge
Ohh good to know
deep pawn
Having done dungeons on all tank hero trees, most are amazing. A couple even surprised me how I enjoyed them. I know it's bugged but Aldrachi DH is probably the weakest.
tropic trail
and it goes back as part of the story
Damn why it flashes like this?
north orbit
thanks for not levelling on alleria
silent urchin
I think everyone gets that, if it's still the same bug as alpha
Lots of quests in dorn that are awful when its busy
terrible respawns everywhere
guess we're not gonna get any new hyperspawn issues
fluid owl
aye does anyone knows how can i acces the professions tab? couldnt find it, and it isnt in the skill panel
dam found it my bad
fluid owl
is there a way to get chrests on beta?
whole junco
guys is it possible to sim characters from beta?
scarlet ridge
for those wanting the new Dalaran Sewer Turtle Battlepet, put up a guide https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-obtain-the-dalaran-sewer-turtle-battle-pet-25198 (be gentle, my first guide!)
austere gazelle
this implies the arathi actually are aware of the old gods
that's not what the dialogue implies... They probably are aware since there is titanic presence on the other side of Azeroth until Avaloren was lost for Odyn and the Titan's watcher. There was a civilisation and being before the Arathi came to that place, so old historical knowledge and probably the true history Odyn wanted to hide.
However I don't think there are more than five old gods. There is a rumored fifth, but Xal is not one of them
My those Kobold's stories are horrible xD everyone dies
green moth
I can't leave the into delve 😂
nvm it just took 5 minutes for the game to stop lagging
clear apex
Is the delve quest turn in broken?
I got check marks on everything but it just errors to "you don't qualify" t.t
scarlet ridge
Is the delve quest turn in broken?
I got check marks on everything but it just ...
Yes, I've submitted a bug report
clear apex
Doesn't look like i can continue the msq now
clear apex
Yes, I've submitted a bug report
I did as well, relogging to see if it might work that way
scarlet ridge
I've abandoned it too but I'm still hunting crabs
clear apex
My only gripe about delves is bran talks too much
scarlet ridge
there HAS to be one more somewhere on the isle
clear apex
Is there a crab shortage?
scarlet ridge
clear apex
It's also curious i can tame wolves but not the blue ones, cause I'm pretty sure bm hunter can tame variants in other zones not in tww
Well, it seems I'm lucky enough i even got to leave the delve, some people can't it seems
dense plover
It's also curious i can tame wolves but not the blue ones, cause I'm pretty sure...
Thunder wolves are elementals not beasts
clear apex
Thunder wolves are elementals not beasts
It was showing as a beast when i hovered over it
uncut lintel
thunder wolves?
sounds cool is that a new model or just reused wolf with thunder on it?
or is it not a wolf
clear apex
Still can't turn in this stupid delve msq. Went back and tried a second run
clear apex
sounds cool is that a new model or just reused wolf with thunder on it?
It's reused model
uncut lintel
D
clear apex
Looks like fenrir
clear apex
They made cool cats instead
uncut lintel
based but still
austere gazelle
Just sent them a feedback , to rename the nerubian unit " crypt lords " into something else. Crypt lord are undead nerubian scourge unit, which is not really fitting the context here
Crypt lords are undead nerubian spiderlords of the subterranean spider kingdom of Azjol-Nerub. Crypt lords are adept at summoning insect minions and crushing enemies. Betraying the nerubian people, the crypt lords have sacrificed the lifeblood of thousands to bolster the undead armies of Ner'zhul, winning an eternal life of servitude in his name.
clear apex
hey! so if youre BM hunter switch to Survival, it fixes the delve turn in, someone sent me a wsp about it
and yeah this is why I was surprised you cant tame them
These show as a beast and are with other wolves
dense plover
and yeah this is why I was surprised you cant tame them
These show as a beast a...
If you can’t tame, report it as a bug
deep pawn
Not the first beast you can't tame
clear apex
I figure its one I just cant. I know they do that
Dont think its a bug at all
I still want my leggy bois they had in the caverns in DF
deep pawn
there's lightning wolves on the thunder isles that are clasified as beasts but are untameable too
City of Threads is the most unstable dungeon I've encountered
pulsar minnow
I was initally so worried about the story delivery approach in this expansion, but after going through Hallowfall's sidequests- man its actually great
I actually want to do sidequests, they tell fun stories, and reward the player properly
my jaw actually dropped a little seeing the death of the last mage
deep pawn
haha, on charater select some belts are shrinking when you pick a character, it's kinda funny seeing it go whup
dense plover
haha, on charater select some belts are shrinking when you pick a character, it'...
thats a new one
pulsar minnow
Interesting thing from captain exposition in Azj-Kahet. Orweynas pod criticizes her for breaking sacred tradition and enlisting help of a mortal
which, seems to imply that the Harronir are immortal
scarlet ridge
Still can't turn in this stupid delve msq. Went back and tried a second run
are you a hunter?
clear apex
are you a hunter?
already got it fixed 8) and yeah I am
scarlet ridge
how did you fix it? I had to respec to survival
clear apex
how did you fix it? I had to respec to survival
yeah thats what someone told me as well. Idk if other classes have that issue or not
very bizarre bug
scarlet ridge
I think it's down to BM not having a reward avaiable for completing the quest, which is why it works when you switched to survival
I'm still on the look out for a crab, been going up and down the first zone for ages in a grid pattern, found 5 of them I think there's 1 more
clear apex
I gave up on a couple quests otherwise. Like saving earthen from being webbed. Like 20 people there camping each location >8( and the spawn rate is like 1 every 2min it seems
And had to report issues with some gear rewards being ivl 340, despite when going to select the reward it was over 408
scarlet ridge
I've gone that too, along with some rare mob rewarding like 353 gear
clear apex
ew
scarlet ridge
4 crabs I've found, forgot to screenshot the 5th but I wrote it down, on the hunter for 6th
inland island
Is there a way to see the datamined ppm of trinket and such on wowhead?
I know stuff is still being tuned of course. Just curious for some of these as I look at them
scarlet ridge
crab found! let's see what it is
Wahoo solved it, there's 6 crabs you need to find
scarlet ridge
ha! I've spent 2 days looking for all these crabs, looks like someone beat me too it on wowhead 😄
tropic trail
You know this guide for turtle 🐢 link it’s not working probably. I’m not sure
scarlet ridge
I submitted it, I'm not sure whether it's been approved or not
tropic trail
Aaaa
scarlet ridge
scarlet ridge
I'll give you the short version. He's at 40.84, 73.87 in Feywold Village, you need to give him 5 Dornish Pike which you can fish from Calm Surfacing Ripples, then wait a few minutes and he'd then want Fish and Chips (you can make it with cooking easily), after that you need to give him 1 Goldengil Trout you can fish these from Glimmerpools, Festering Rotpools or infused Ichor Spills, once you give him that he'll tell you he's going to find the rest of his family
which is at Stoneshaper's Atrium at /way 58.01, 30.01 in the main city
Not sure how long it takes for a guide to be approved to wowhead
pseudo seal
where to report if you are stuck under textures during the beta?
scarlet ridge
press 'f6' for the bug report button I imagine, or there is the forums on the US
pseudo seal
but before I can click it disconnects me from the server. from the character selection menu I wrote about 1 hour ago
scarlet ridge
oh right that's very strange :/
Cooked everything and he doesn't want anything 😦
sorted
dense plover
sorted
what was the solution here?
i couldnt figure out the meal either
there are others like this, like a lynx in mereldar that wont wake up
pulsar minnow
but before I can click it disconnects me from the server. from the character sel...
Just make another character and report how the bug happened on your current character
silent urchin
there's a decent chance a lot of the little puzzles are just not working yet
it was something they were adding to in the last couple alpha builds, many were still obviously unfinished
dense plover
it was something they were adding to in the last couple alpha builds, many were ...
no i just think theyre like this
where theyre harder to figure out
clear apex
I need to figure out what "cap" to give the mushroom guy
He's by the extra exp spot but he only asks if I've found his cap
dense plover
He's by the extra exp spot but he only asks if I've found his cap
i think it drops from one of the enemies
clear apex
I was worried about that. Already killed the rare and the end quest boss
Guess it's a farming thing
clear apex
Oh yeah forgot that was there
I keep forgetting I'm not on remix so i can take fall damage x.x and i can't run as fast
dense plover
big hotfix energy
this includes hotfixes from the previous days i believe
yeah confirmed - theyre from yesterday through now
looks like you arent going to see the detection radius normally
theres a toy version
and a way to permanently unlock the zone and be free of the guards
a million kej seems excessive
kej has a 2:1 conversion to resonance shards
8:1 in the other direction tho
still mantle
Is one else having a bug when it comes to not having mounts even after copying account data like I have the gleaming moon beast and I used it for a few mins and when I went back into my mount collection it says I haven’t collected the mount and when it was on my hotbar it says mount not collected I’m also missing some other mounts that I have unlocked on retail live
dense plover
Is one else having a bug when it comes to not having mounts even after copying a...
account/data copy didnt work right
thats why it isnt enabled
still mantle
So should I do it again
dense plover
literally not important for them to fix
bugs like this exist ONLY on beta/alpha so they dont fix it
you dont need a specific mount to be able to play
still mantle
I know I just wanted to use that as my main dragon riding mount I have other ones I like like the peacock one but
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
still mantle
I’d rather them fix other things than a mount xD
still mantle
My character copy works on the alleria and khadgar realms
I know the one “this goes to eleven” is the max level realm
dense plover
yeah it was disabled for a while
still mantle
I mean I had my gleaming moodbeast for like 5 mins and then idk what happened it just disappeared 🤷♂️🤷♂️
dense plover
I mean I had my gleaming moodbeast for like 5 mins and then idk what happened it...
yeah that happens with all shop mounts
it goes to check the shop, it cant reach it because the shop is disabled, it removes access
standard alpha/beta stuff
still mantle
Ahh gotcha
clear apex
afaik they havent even re-enabled character copy
They did
I was able to copy 4 of mine on alleria
Did that last night even
Unless it's been disabled again
wanton drum
Hey, is this possible to create a lv. 80 character on TWW beta to test new talents ?
dense plover
Hey, is this possible to create a lv. 80 character on TWW beta to test new talen...
“These go to Eleven” realm
wanton drum
ok thx
deep pawn
I hope the hotfixes fixed the city of threads crash
I don't know if it's the dungeon or a particular class ability
fluid owl
aye does anyone knows if we're capable of crafting chrests on beta?
zealous sedge
Hey all, I had a thought about a connection between MoP and TWW/ WSS in terms of lore. It’s something I’ve been thinking about it for a couple of days now and put it into a Reddit post. Feel free to read. I’m not a lore expert by any means but really wanted to put my thoughts out there. Just really passionate about the direction of the game. Hope there is some meaningful discussion around it if people have the time. Cheers! https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlore/s/npXNZDHVq9
dense plover
Hey all, I had a thought about a connection between MoP and TWW/ WSS in terms of...
so your initial part about xal is just flat wrong
we already know she isnt part of an old god
maybe the BLADE was
but she isnt the blade, she was trapped inside of it
she is older than the old gods
im fairly certain the black blood we see is actually either nzoth or cthuun
i dont want to be an ass, but i dont think theres any connection at all
upper pasture
Locus-Walker How does the Locus-Walker recognize Xal’atath almost immediately? (he claimed she was the one that destroyed their world which is why he instantly knew who she was)
Archmage Drenden This might not matter at all, and it might have been a super convenient plot point for Metzen, but where did Drenden go all those years ago, and how is he welcome back to the Kirin’Tor so quickly? (Drenden has been dead since legion(?) but i'm assuming that isn't widely known in Dalaran since Xal'atath uses it as cover to get into Dalaran and spy on us.)
deep pawn
Drenden was presumed dead originally after the destruction of Dalaran in Warcraft 3
upper pasture
plus magical people just disappear and reappear all the time. i'm sure noone really bothered to check if it was really him or not and just assumed the hermit has crawled out of their shell
deep pawn
I think the writers just used the name of an Archmage who hasn't been in WoW and didn't even check to think if that made sense
upper pasture
although after the whole dreadlord stuff you think people would be more careful but as you stated it was prolly just a convenient use of an old character name
deep pawn
I do think it was stupid as hell when they could have used Modera or whatever her name is.
Not the super obvious "long dead Archmage returns, surely that won't be an issue"
All it takes is googling his damn name to spoil it
upper pasture
i mean googling most things tend to spoil stuff. not everyone who plays the game is gonna go out of the game and google everything
deep pawn
I think trying to get a refresher on who a new lore character is isn't a stretch
He literally has a server named after him I think
upper pasture
sure if you are willing to be spoiled
the point is by your logic no matter what blizzard did. use his name or not someone who googles "who is X in WoW?" when it's someone in disguise IS going to spoil it no matter what
deep pawn
I mean for example the other Archmage on the council that hasn't been very plot relevant but around. Have her be killed off screen and we find like her body just before the betrayal reveal.
Using Drenden is literally just so they could have a character with no other strings attached for the reveal.
upper pasture
but even still once we know it's Xal'atath there will be a recent article that will "spoil" it and be the most recent thing when googling it.
deep pawn
It just wouldn't be as obvious in general as using a character that hasn't been seen in 20+ years
upper pasture
i mean, not everyone plays or reads every inch of lore about the game. i bet most people don't really know much about him outside of what information we get from that quest chain
most people prolly didn't even notice until someone told them
deep pawn
Well so far all we have is one line where he's welcomed back.
lone mantle
Drenden was presumed dead originally after the destruction of Dalaran in Warcraf...
Drenden rejoined the Council after Kalecgos abdicated his position following the war against the Primalists. He is, in fact, very much alive.
deep pawn
He sure is. He'll totally be a permanent major character in the world soul saga
scarlet ridge
what was the solution here?
there's 5 critter crabs just on the beach near by, pick them up and feed them him. Also my turtle guide wasn't approved yet but looks like was copied/retyped and put up, unless it's a conspiracy
austere gazelle
i dont want to be an ass, but i dont think theres any connection at all
" Deeper and deeper it roots will reach, welcoming our embrace "
I think its the blood of ALL the OG mixed up.
austere gazelle
Locus-Walker How does the Locus-Walker recognize Xal’atath almost immediately? (...
Im not sure he made such a claim. He just said that his world song a radiant song right before being destroyed like azeroth atm.
For Xalatath, its easy to know how he knows about her. As Alleria stated , the voice of Xal echoes in the void and is the loudest one at the moment
Since Locus Walker tap in the same stuff, he certainly heard of her and her whispers in the void, thus hearing the name related to the harbinger just made him links the dots.
On a personal theory level, since locus walker do not want to say his name cause it ll draw many stuff to him to " collect old debt"
I may start to believe that he was the harbinger of Ka'resh and is now on the path to redemption and is trying to help Alleria not to repeat his mistake to stop Xal.
tropic trail
I posted their dialogue once here. It seems like they experienced similar scenario before their planet got eaten by a void lord.
austere gazelle
Another stuff that popped in my mind, the Beladar is awfully making me think of the Worldstone of Diablo, the Eye of Anu.
In diablo baal wanted to corrupt it so it would allow him to make hell get loose on Sanctuary.
Considering Midnight, Xal is maybe trying to do the same stuff.
( and on another speculation mind, the eye of Anu was the remnant of the original god of creation , his real eye, what do we know about eye in warcraft ? Yep that's right. The eyes of the Earthmother were Mu'sha and An'she and she supposedly ripped them out. The Beladar might be An'she. )
tropic trail
An’she is the sun ☀️ but maybe a piece of it is in that crystal.
austere gazelle
An’she is the sun ☀️ but maybe a piece of it is in that crystal.
As Elune was the moon but she is more than that since she is probably an humanoid entity, according to the tauren tale ( maybe not to be trusted ) An'she was wounded by the darkness and Elune couldnt heal him. So maybe its his heart
But we'll see. Btw it is confirmed it began to turn to darkness when Sargeras stabbed Azeroth
tropic trail
Yea that’s actually very interesting part
austere gazelle
Which brings me back again to the Tauren tale. the Earthmother ( presumably Azeroth ) went to sleep to contain and seal the Darkness. What if Azeroth is not alone within and is keeping an entity locked in, and Sargeras stab awakened both and there is now a.... war within 😏
tropic trail
Hehe 😂
north orbit
yeah elune seems to be involved with quite a few of the other pantheon members like eonar is her lover, winter queen is her sister maybe on the light side she knows someone
austere gazelle
yeah elune seems to be involved with quite a few of the other pantheon members l...
She supposedly created the Naarus... that makes a lot of acquaintances
Another personal theory is that Azeorht is somehow the original point of the universe and Elune, as her child, was either a first one or helped them shape the cosmos, and when it was done, she took place into the realm of life
( grimoire of shadowlands implies that both her and her Sister were not born into their respective current planes )
tropic trail
I think titans lied and constellars are the first ones, but that’s just my theory. 😅
north orbit
in zereth mortis they were robots like the eternals in that one marvel movie
silent urchin
Tried to do everything in dorn but still missing two questlines on sojourner.. maybe they're max level ones?
tropic trail
in zereth mortis they were robots like the eternals in that one marvel movie
Yea, and the celestial Arishem.
silent urchin
oh think I just found one, tucked away in a corner of dornogal and I kept missing it cause lag and npc taking ages to load
austere gazelle
Is the quest " Alone in the Dark " with Orweyna bugged for everyone?
silent urchin
saw someone in game mention it worked after they hit 80
austere gazelle
I suspected as much somehow
zealous sedge
i dont want to be an ass, but i dont think theres any connection at all
I don’t think you were being an ass, I appreciate the response!
upper pasture
THERE IT IS
candid ruin
8/26
upper pasture
8.26
austere gazelle
unless it's the 11.0
dense plover
wow thats kinda soon
austere gazelle
pandaria finishing one week prior is.. weird
dense plover
So ... prepatch next month
no way prepatch can drop before the end of remix
that would break so many things
feral belfry
YES IT CAN
candid ruin
They gotta be talking about prepatch for Aug 26th surely
austere gazelle
everything is in the beta cause it follows the actual schedule and rotation of weekly events
candid ruin
Aug 26th for full release is insane
feral belfry
Yeah, but my guess they were testing it
austere gazelle
but there was NO test of pandaria X TWW
candid ruin
yes
dense plover
yo this cinematic
seems to have pieces of a larger cinematic
we see orweyna, we see faerin, we see an earthen
candid ruin
wait Ealy access i sAug 22nd
dense plover
2 weeks between launch and season 1
dense plover
they made a road map but didn't add the prepatch
could mean prepatch is fully separate from expac launch
and we might get it in like 5-6 weeks during remix
which would be crazy
candid ruin
this just seem wild
tulip sun
That trailer hyped me up so much
candid ruin
the trailer was insane
upper pasture
the trailer was very nice
candid ruin
thought they were making a movie
feral belfry
Xbox is killing it
I have to admit... This was some insane line up
some really amazing classic games coming back too
diablo 4 leaks now
austere gazelle
Well, I hope they have many fixes under their sleeves
feral belfry
Cinimatic now omg
austere gazelle
End game is not finished nor ready, a lots of quest are bugged... I guess they could correct this in one month
candid ruin
they got a lot to cook
crystal pond
To be fair I am waiting to chat with azeroth
Like, a real talk
Not with magni or something similar to him
little hound
plain violet
I lovedd the trailer.
candid ruin
4 days EA 
green moth
https://imguscdn.gamespress.com/cdn/files/BlizzardLive/2024/06/091550-2c3a8a58/W...
so 4 days EA?
dense plover
so 4 days EA?
we dont know now
they just pulled the roadmap off the website
so it probably wasnt final
deep pawn
What in the actual hell, this is a month earlier than I expected
candid ruin
they just pulled the roadmap off the website
they updated the store page, it says Aug 22nd for EA
deep pawn
Blizzard lied about remix characters getting to do the prepatch event
candid ruin
dense plover
so its technically 3 days
candid ruin
Blizzard lied about remix characters getting to do the prepatch event
What makes you think they lied
deep pawn
Unless they cut a month off remix you'll have like 3 days
candid ruin
also where did they say they could do prepatch? I just remember them saying they go to the war within
22nd (day 1) 23 (day 2) 24 (day 3) 25 (day 4)
zealous sedge
I did not have August 26th release in my bingo card