#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 84

tropic trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Damn

novel zodiac Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 PM

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you have to start one fresh

tepid fiber Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Totally isolated 1-70 Pandaria-only leveling experience

molten niche Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 PM

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10-70

tepid fiber Apr 23, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Yep yep

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 8:13 PM

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What day does the Northrend cup begin? Is it next week?

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 8:14 PM

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30th

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 8:22 PM

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Cool

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Was this a typo?

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I though the mount was for completing on normal difficult awakened

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Not heroic

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 8:23 PM

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if you do it on heroic you earn everything beneath it too

tepid fiber Apr 23, 2024, 8:23 PM

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SL Fated was heroic for the mount too, wasn't it?

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:24 PM

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earlier it appeared the mount was for normal

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I think based off achi datamining

tepid fiber Apr 23, 2024, 8:24 PM

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Oh well that's datamining

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:25 PM

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I mean the blizz article could also be wrong

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https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=19574/awakening-the-dragonflight-raids

Wowhead

Awakening the Dragonflight Raids

Complete all three Awakened raids on Normal difficulty or higher in Dragonflight Season 4. In the Feats of Strength category. An achievement from World of Warcraft: Dragonflight.

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 8:26 PM

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It could be

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I’m at work so no access to wow. Anyone able to check the achievement in game right now?

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 8:27 PM

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it's a FoS it doesn't show until you earn it

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 8:27 PM

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Oh I see

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:28 PM

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you can use the in game link off the wowhead page tho

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although this is EU so no seasonal rollover yet, might have been hotfixes

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 8:30 PM

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still doesn't show rewards

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 8:47 PM

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I posted on the forums about the discrepancy. Hopefully a blue catches it and clarifies. Would just like to see if it was a mistake or intended.

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Also, someone on Reddit said the weekly events (like Siege, Researchers) give updated rewards now. Is that true?

austere gazelle Apr 23, 2024, 9:10 PM

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zealous sedge Also, someone on Reddit said the weekly events (like Siege, Researchers) give up...

wouldn't surprise me, since the World boss can be awakened too

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:11 PM

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That makes sense

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I’m planning out my gaming session while at work. Don’t have much time to play this week so want to be as efficient as I can be lol. Seems like TW quests and M0 is the best way and maybe *empowered world events because it drops veteran track gear.

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:27 PM

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zealous sedge Also, someone on Reddit said the weekly events (like Siege, Researchers) give up...

dreamsurge weekly gave veteran

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you get a box that awards veteran for doing hunt, feast, and siege this week

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I actually got two items from feast but it was a lag fest

dense plover Apr 23, 2024, 9:31 PM

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So - I should do all the things?

glass flicker Apr 23, 2024, 9:32 PM

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The addon?

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 9:35 PM

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just don't open your TW box yet

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Also do the TW raid quest Im hearing people got 2 pieces of champion I think?

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Oh I just thought has anyone checked if the vendor that uses dilated time pods next to time rifts has updated gear? It was/ is 454 ilvl.

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:46 PM

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veteran world gear cannot be catalyzed this time around

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:46 PM

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zealous sedge Oh I just thought has anyone checked if the vendor that uses dilated time pods n...

dreamsurge vendor isn't active at all this week

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same with time rifts

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those vendors will only be up during their relevant weeks

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Ah okay - so time rift vendors will be relevant next week since it was introduced in 10.1.5?

broken kite Apr 23, 2024, 9:51 PM

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deep pawn those vendors will only be up during their relevant weeks

is that true? that would suck if so.

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:51 PM

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It's that or not at all

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:51 PM

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And which vendor is currently up for this week?

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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none that I know of

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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dreamsurge vendor isn't active but there is the quest to get 100 coalescence and it rewards 1 veteran gear

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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I think maybe the bronze bullion vendors are gonna be the only relevant vendors all season

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 9:53 PM

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it's likely to prevent you from using the vendor for old non empowered gear on weeks that it would give you the strongest you might be able to spend at them

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:55 PM

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My guess is the vendor only has one level of power on it, and they can't adjust for awakened and not

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so it'll only sell when up

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 9:57 PM

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So there’s no point in buying gear from those vendors at all? Unless you’re gearing an alt I suppose.

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 9:58 PM

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we don't know yet

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I'm pretty sure I saw champ gear on the dreamsurge vendor on ptr

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Word. Man I wish blizz would provide more details on best ways to get gear. It just seems so bloated in all the options with no clear guide.

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Maybe that’s just hyper critical of me

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 10:04 PM

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basically you want to do whatever's awakened each week

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there's a chance the vendors give good stuff so doing weekly rift and surge might be worth it

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next week I get to finish my soridormi rep grind

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:09 PM

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deep pawn basically you want to do whatever's awakened each week

Okay, thank you.

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:09 PM

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deep pawn next week I get to finish my soridormi rep grind

I’m still 2 tiers away from maxing that rep lol

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 10:11 PM

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time rifts do give a new currency

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so probably worth doing if you love those trinkets

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goes with the new dreamsurge currency

glass flicker Apr 23, 2024, 10:12 PM

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I like the Fragment of Shalamayne. I hope the Colossus Warrior hero talents work kind of like that trinket.

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:13 PM

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As long as they drop current S4 ilvl gear then I’m down.

deep pawn Apr 23, 2024, 10:13 PM

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a 503 shalamayne sounds fun to have

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Based on my reading, the vendors are just broken.

glass flicker Apr 23, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Warstrikes + Kingstrikes are fun.

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 10:14 PM

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just got a 480 veteran 1/8 neck from the 100 dreamsurge stuff so

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Just waiting on hot fixes.

glass flicker Apr 23, 2024, 10:14 PM

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It's just a gigaload of burst damage.

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"Welp, this trinket just did more damage in one tap than my entire burst rotation. Womp womp"

warm topaz Apr 23, 2024, 10:34 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/maximum

Twitch

Maximum - Twitch

🤠Season 4 Vault of the incarnates but -39 ilvls🤠

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they are doing VoI now, on Dathea atm

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it's so fun to see pros playing this game, if someone want to watch it!

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 10:36 PM

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they went straight in without getting any gear from elsewhere, so they're like 30 ilvls low for it

warm topaz Apr 23, 2024, 10:36 PM

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yep, that's why is fun hahaha

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 10:38 PM

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It does seem like it should be a fairly easily tuned season once you get gear

warm topaz Apr 23, 2024, 10:42 PM

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the lag on Dathea is crazy tho

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exactly like when it launch

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 11:06 PM

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They are doing mythic?

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lol

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 11:08 PM

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yup, up to 6/8 now

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 11:09 PM

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That’s crazy

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I could never be that skilled lol

warm topaz Apr 23, 2024, 11:16 PM

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i love RWF, i think its amazing fun content

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Amirdrassil was extremely close, one of the best one i remember

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even tho that existed, i think WoW base UI is pretty easy to watch and understand from a new player

obtuse kestrel Apr 23, 2024, 11:19 PM

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That is one very crowded UI O_O

warm topaz Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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it is funny bc when you see someone on twiter saying things like: "oh who can even know what is happening there"

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actually im sure we all here can understand it

zealous sedge Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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That UI gives me claustrophobia

obtuse kestrel Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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Oh aye all that info is useful I'm sure...but for myself I'd have to locate the target mob via sonar id I had that

upper pasture Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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yay 5 more slots for Remix!

silent urchin Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 PM

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more than I was expecting

whole lagoon Apr 23, 2024, 11:46 PM

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warm topaz

how do u play with this

dense plover Apr 23, 2024, 11:59 PM

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hey, they pulled through on the more char slots thing!

deep pawn Apr 24, 2024, 12:05 AM

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woohoo

ionic terrace Apr 24, 2024, 1:15 AM

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oh huh, On A Paler Horse for DK actually changes the deathcharger

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ember blaze Apr 24, 2024, 2:43 AM

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deep pawn time rifts do give a new currency

oh damn did all my unused currency go into the void

dense plover Apr 24, 2024, 2:48 AM

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ember blaze oh damn did all my unused currency go into the void

if its the old stuff, yes

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thats normal for seasons

ember blaze Apr 24, 2024, 2:48 AM

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oh man

deep pawn Apr 24, 2024, 2:51 AM

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my old stuff is still there for time rifts and dreamsurges, it's just vendorable

deep pawn Apr 24, 2024, 5:22 AM

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any sign of an alpha build tomorrow?

dense plover Apr 24, 2024, 5:55 AM

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deep pawn any sign of an alpha build tomorrow?

its happening this week

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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we dont know when

deep pawn Apr 24, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Well from DF they usually updated the vendor the night before

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Given the rough season launch maybe they're waiting for Thurs

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 5:03 PM

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Jesus that's really a short small notice for abandoning the companion app

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That sucks, I used it for ingame guildchat while offline and tracking current available world quests

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This is a dumb announcement

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Doesn't the bnet app also do guild chat?

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 5:08 PM

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maybe this is a sign we're getting an updated app?

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 5:19 PM

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Maybe. It would suck if they just removed access to a bunch of these features with no substitute or replacement

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This is wild. Especially a week after I had a group conversation with other people with physical disabilities that take them away from their computer and love the convenience and various tools provided by the companion app

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Like, was JUST having that conversation with us gushing to each other about how it makes our lives easier

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 5:35 PM

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I’d honestly be surprised if they don’t have another app that they haven’t announced yet

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 5:36 PM

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well, it's a bit more addiction to the game

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you spend hours on your pc and even when you go away from your pc you still play the game

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 5:37 PM

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Not everyone “spends hours” at their pc to play WoW and the point was it’s convenience for people who do have trouble sitting in one place for a long time.

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sometimes i even wonder why you're here since you take every opportunity to try and talk down about WoW players

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 5:42 PM

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Like ffs I'm talking about accessibility for people with disabilities and your first go to is having an addiction and playing too long? Shove off, clownshoes dracthyr_lulmao

zealous sedge Apr 24, 2024, 5:44 PM

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Yeah that’s a wild take bro… I do hope they have something coming to replace the companion app. Maybe it’s a like a Warband themed app.

warm topaz Apr 24, 2024, 5:52 PM

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no much people use it tho, I think for them is not worth to keep putting resources on it

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sad that it's gone

clear apex Apr 24, 2024, 6:00 PM

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Battle net app still has messenger

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 6:00 PM

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but guild messenger?

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isn't it just personal?

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honestly it sucks but most of what the app did can be found elsewhere barring the AH stuff, which didn't they like just update at the beginning of DF?

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i really just hope this is a sign of a better more functional app on the way

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 6:17 PM

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tepid fiber Like ffs I'm talking about accessibility for people with disabilities and your f...

didn't interpret it as people who couldn't play on a pc/laptop 😄

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 6:18 PM

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It's pretty obvious what I'm saying if you read the words I typed

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I'm talking about people with disabilities that take them away from their computer

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 6:19 PM

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hmhm

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 6:19 PM

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You can tell, specifically where I said the words "other people with physical disabilities that take them away from their computer"

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 6:19 PM

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i only read it half

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 6:20 PM

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Yeah, reading the whole thing is usually how you know what someone is talking about

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 6:20 PM

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and i was generally talking about the app, not for that specific public

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"the app"

tepid fiber Apr 24, 2024, 6:21 PM

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Just say you had a moment of ignorance and ableism and say you'll do better dracthyr_hehe

thin warren Apr 24, 2024, 6:21 PM

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i first need to look up ableism

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ahah

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like people said here, many things of the companion app can be done by other apps, so i understand that Blizzard might not want to invest into it anymore maybe

subtle oar Apr 24, 2024, 10:14 PM

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A friend sent me this

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Is this actually real?

cosmic beacon Apr 24, 2024, 10:14 PM

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hope so

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glad stance arms sounds dope asf

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 10:14 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=415488/the-gladiator https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=415648/skyshield-breaker

Wowhead

The Gladiator

You can now wield a two-handed weapon and a shield and your auto-attack damage is increased by 25%. In the Uncategorized Spells category. Requires Warrior.

Wowhead

Skyshield Breaker

Leap into the air and appear above your target, then slam down with destructive force to deal (23.5% of Attack power) Physical damage to all enemies within 8 yards and applying Colossus Smash to them [ Protection: and resetting the remaining cooldown on Taunt]

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that said, there are A LOT of things in the data that never make it live

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especially in alpha

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most of the other things in that spell id range seem to be 10.1.5 or 10.2 content, although that doesn't necessarily mean much by itself

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They do backfill unused IDs, afaik, and there's quite a few other warrior spells in that area that are new

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As well as some delve stuff

deep pawn Apr 24, 2024, 10:26 PM

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It could be a discontinued arms/prot hero tree concept

zealous sedge Apr 24, 2024, 10:26 PM

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Oh definitely rolling warrior for remix so I can do this in TWW

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Oh wait nvm I didn’t read that fully

warm topaz Apr 24, 2024, 10:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1783257600290676853

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead) on X

A Cosmetic version of the Tusks of Mannoroth to the Patch 10.2.7 PTR!

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://t.co/q5khHGXCY6

dense plover Apr 24, 2024, 10:38 PM

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ptr is working now

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but characters from remix are locked

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so idk if they figured the problems out

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 10:39 PM

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If it's more stable then it's at least progress, I guess

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My already-converted remix character isn't locked

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Neither is a level 10 I hadn't converted

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oh wait no, it is, just doesn't tell you til you try to login

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Not seeing anything new around valdrakken or bel'ameth

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I can't remember if this guy was here before, at the bel'ameth docks, but ties in to the new boat to gilneas

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Does seem to be some confusion over whether it's named the moonlit rose or Rutheran's reminiscence

dense plover Apr 24, 2024, 10:50 PM

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silent urchin Does seem to be some confusion over whether it's named the moonlit rose or Ruthe...

report it?

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 10:50 PM

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waiting to see what the boat is saying

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one of the crew was moonlit rose before, might have all been changed

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Yeah, all updated to moonlit rose

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shame, I liked the rutheran's name more

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I guess this is a more hopeful name though

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 PM

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checks to see if i got in the alpha

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oh, just the cata beta >.<

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 PM

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rip

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 PM

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pain

silent urchin Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 PM

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no alpha build yet though, so presumably no invite wave?

upper pasture Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 PM

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probably tbh

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i just usually check when i get home

gloomy tangle Apr 24, 2024, 11:53 PM

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upper pasture

Same 🙃

rain cave Apr 25, 2024, 12:30 AM

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warm topaz https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1783257600290676853

lmao

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Build probably tomorrow

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Wonder if we will get the next zone

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I assume they want to test the airlock tech asap just to make sure it scales well

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 12:48 AM

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most likely

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ringing depths but isle of dorn will be locked

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a larger wave

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:48 AM

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ionic terrace ringing depths but isle of dorn will be locked

Actually

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Ion said weekly builds to test each zone.

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:48 AM

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I bet it isn’t locked

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Or at least not physically locked

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 12:49 AM

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And after all 4 zones and dungeons are available beta will start

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:49 AM

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They’ll want to test passing between the capital and underground

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So they might lock the quests from the first zone, maybe

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 12:50 AM

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eh, they will just put no mans land if you go outside the city

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i guess

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Idk - dynamic flying makes that hard

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I bet they either don’t lock it or just encrypt the quests so they can’t be done

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And leave the zone open

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 12:51 AM

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this makes me think otherwise

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and it was that way in DF too

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 12:52 AM

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DF didn’t have massive airlocks between the capital/first zone and the second one

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 12:52 AM

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what do you mean

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as far as i saw, there was only one entrance and i assume the ceiling is rock

uncut vault Apr 25, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Isle of Dorn and the other three zones are separate instances similar to Dragon Isles and Zaralek afaik, just in reverse

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 12:54 AM

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the only entrance i found to ringing depths was from the city

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like, you hit a loading screen and you're pretty much insta teleported to SW/Org

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it was so quick i didn't know what happened the first time lol

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Was there a vendor build?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 2:12 AM

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yeah on monday

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Oh

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The most common build day last time was Thursday right?

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

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ionic terrace like, you hit a loading screen and you're pretty much insta teleported to SW/Org

In reality there won’t be a loading screen

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It’s gonna be like zaralek

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And since it’s loading into and from a capital city, they’ll want to do heavy testing of that to make sure it works

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Especially because it’s more vertical than zaralek

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So momentum plays a bigger role in both directions

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 2:35 AM

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Yeah I agree, they will definitely keep the city open but I’m not sure about the actual zone around it

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We will see

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 3:13 AM

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do you guys think dragonflight being the base leveling will mean they get rid of the 'choose your zone' thing like they did in SLs?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:20 AM

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Probs

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 3:24 AM

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oh, 10.2.7 ptr updated

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:26 AM

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Nice

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I’m really hoping for another testing* weekend for remix

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

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ptr realms are up again at least

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:32 AM

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Have they said anything about the “new holiday event” that’s on the roadmap?

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 3:33 AM

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no

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:34 AM

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Word

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:12 AM

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uh oh

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:21 AM

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What do you mean

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:21 AM

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i don't really want to say anything since i'm sure it's meant to be encrypted

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:21 AM

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Oh shit

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It’s in alpha?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:22 AM

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yeah and it wasn't here before

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Hmm yeah I wouldn’t blame you to keep it under wraps

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 AM

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i regret posting anything lol

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 AM

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I would just report it as bug and see what happens

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Haha delete the message if you still can

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 AM

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i can but then it looks bad

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 AM

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I don’t think Blizz monitors this discord channel anyways lol

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:24 AM

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oh well

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 4:24 AM

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like you saw the cinematic??

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:24 AM

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no

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 4:25 AM

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oh

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:28 AM

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well what ever it was I missed the fun

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:31 AM

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aw shit, now i wanna know

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isnt that what this channel is for?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:32 AM

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well yes

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:32 AM

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there's a bit of a silent agreement to not try and get past things that are supposed to be encrypted

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and definitely not try to crack any encryption

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:32 AM

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so this is past 11.1?

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like, that was already datamined

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:33 AM

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oh if the 11.1 raid was datamined I missed that too lol

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:33 AM

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no it's pre patch stuff

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:33 AM

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yeah, an icon and a weapon model

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oh

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prepatch its not that big of a deal

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it looks kinda shitty to me already

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just another invasion and rares to kill

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:34 AM

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gonna suck to collect all the mog but I will

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:34 AM

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more so pre patch story

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:34 AM

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deep pawn gonna suck to collect all the mog but I will

bro i did it for the DF prepatch event, and then all the transmog came back in DF

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:35 AM

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ionic terrace more so pre patch story

well, its up to you, but in my opinion, if we already know that khadgar dies because they put that fucking yellow text then nothing matters anymore

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Bellular already put a video out that the prepatch video is Azeroth reliving traumatic things

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Like she's having a nightmare or something

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:36 AM

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i guess i can then

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i'll just post the pictue

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again lol

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:36 AM

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content creators had full access to the prepatch event during the media weekend

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:36 AM

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even the story?

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:37 AM

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I'm not sure about the quests, but Bellular knew enough that it was Azeroth reliving things

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:37 AM

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see that's why i'm hesitant

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:37 AM

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he saw Khadgar's text stuff

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novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:40 AM

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is it bigger than khadgar dying?

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just wanna know that

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:40 AM

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no

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:40 AM

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oh, ok

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:40 AM

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i still don't know what triggered it because it's not here on another chracter

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:41 AM

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that happens sometimes

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i think it happened in DF alpha too

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:45 AM

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yeah it must be some obscure thing cuz none of my other chracters can see it

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:45 AM

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just post it so i can see it, then delete it again?

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im like this rn

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:47 AM

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i would but if it's not showing, it's for a reason, i'm sorry

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:47 AM

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fair

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Was it involving Magister Umbric or something?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:48 AM

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nah

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well mm the npc is on wowhead so

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get looking, i guess? LOL

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:49 AM

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aw i think i saw something about npcs

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:50 AM

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fine fine fine

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:50 AM

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oh, I saw his name earlier today on the mmo-c thread

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People spectulate he's there for Khadgar's stuff

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:50 AM

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man

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someone found it already

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i feel dumb now

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but yea i found him in game, no model yet

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:52 AM

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well, now i feel stupid

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i dont even know who that is

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:52 AM

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don't we all

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:52 AM

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going to wowpedia now

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:52 AM

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ex council of six

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:53 AM

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oh, are you talking about the various cube guys in Dalaran? Yeah they've been there for a while

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Aethas and Umbric are there too for some reason

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:53 AM

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well, no, this is on alpha, on ptr the archmages are down in the same room

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:53 AM

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We know part of the plot is Kalecgos is retiring

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:54 AM

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there's also the other plot npcs

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magni, brann, thrall, ect

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:55 AM

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That said, Drenden has been missing since WC3 no?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 4:55 AM

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so i assume what i'm seeing is the "state" after the prepatch quests but before launch

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 4:55 AM

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deep pawn That said, Drenden has been missing since WC3 no?

that's what wowpedia says

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pressumed dead after archimonde destroyed dalaran

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 4:57 AM

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unless one of them has a title like council of six I imagine it's not that big a deal yet

tulip sun Apr 25, 2024, 5:02 AM

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ionic terrace so i assume what i'm seeing is the "state" after the prepatch quests but before ...

Is this in dalaran like the ptr version?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 5:02 AM

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alpha version

tulip sun Apr 25, 2024, 5:03 AM

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Like but is it the same dalaran we see in the ptr for dark heart?

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Like we see all the archmages and one encrypted model

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 5:03 AM

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no

tulip sun Apr 25, 2024, 5:04 AM

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It's sus we don't see any of the archmages in Dorn

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I'm thinking they all die anyway 😂

signal bone Apr 25, 2024, 3:31 PM

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new build today likely?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Based on Zorbrix twitter (lead game producer) they took a 3 day weekend after launching alpha and getting season 4 finalized (although there are still a lot of bugs in the live game lol). I could see a build today but they might be taking their time with this one.

upper pasture Apr 25, 2024, 5:09 PM

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Oh, no blizzcon 😦

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 5:10 PM

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Probably wouldn't be a lot to announce at it

clear apex Apr 25, 2024, 5:32 PM

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I'm sure later in the year (winter) we'll just get another roadmap
I imagine they can't talk about midnight until halfway through tww

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 6:46 PM

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im having a hard time choosing what i wanna play on S4, any idea?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 6:48 PM

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Class wise?

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 6:50 PM

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yep

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i've played healer this expansion, mistweaver and disc

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 6:52 PM

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I’ve never healed in any xpac really pac but if it’s something you want to take into TWW I would look into hero talents

upper pasture Apr 25, 2024, 6:52 PM

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bandage warrior for S4

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Also take into consideration what you’d like to do for MoP remix if it’s something you’re gonna do

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I would say destro warlock is pretty fun imo I’m leveling an alt right now

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 6:54 PM

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zealous sedge Also take into consideration what you’d like to do for MoP remix if it’s somethi...

yeah i was thinking about that, im playing monk on remix so not playing monk on S4

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 6:58 PM

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Yeah I’m going warrior, monk and Druid in MoP and maybe evoker if I have time.

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 7:02 PM

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alpha realms just went down

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 7:03 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-omg-oh-my-god-gif-4767816

Tenor

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 7:06 PM

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checks launcher every 5 seconds

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 7:07 PM

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Yeah, the only thing they could announce at this Blizzcon is what, MoP classic? 😄

upper pasture Apr 25, 2024, 7:07 PM

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maybe 11.1 patch? but still not a lot

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 7:27 PM

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so excited to check the new zone on the alpha

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i hope is hallowfall

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 7:28 PM

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alpha servers down

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 7:28 PM

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im waiting for stormbringer, and archon

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and warlock changes

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if they manage to make affliction medicore instead of being dogwater, im all in.

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:34 PM

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warm topaz so excited to check the new zone on the alpha

You have alpha access?

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:02 PM

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oh no

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just watch it from Max

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Ah

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:24 PM

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zealous sedge I would say destro warlock is pretty fun imo I’m leveling an alt right now

you have convinced me, I'm going to play warlock

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:28 PM

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deep pawn alpha servers down

Hallowfall alone is gonna decide whether or not I reroll paladin

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So far it’s REALLY making me want to

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:28 PM

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well you have another week to go

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:35 PM

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sorry for the ping idk why it replied to you, i was replying to taukkens thing about hallowfall - discord mobile is finnicky

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anywho, still really curious whats gonna end up going on with the crystal. we cant just have a giant light crystal in azeroth's crust and not have it be important

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kinda hoping its related to An'she. Maybe its a part of him that fell onto azeroth when he was wounded.

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:37 PM

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warm topaz you have convinced me, I'm going to play warlock

My advice is don’t roll affliction. It’s not very enjoyable from what I’ve heard. If you want nice bursts go destro or if you want your pets to do the work go demonology.

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:38 PM

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i've always enjoyed the fantasy of the warlock

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i just feel like it's a "slow" class

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that is probably because i don't know the class enough

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:40 PM

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warm topaz i just feel like it's a "slow" class

Like slow movement wise or slow rotation wise?

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:40 PM

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slow rotation

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:41 PM

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Gotcha. I mean, destro isn’t that bad, and hell I’d say the massive chaos bolt hits make up for it

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:42 PM

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Yeah for sure coming from my shadow priest main it definitely feels slower. Like chaos. Lot is a 2 second cast. Obviously I need some more haste in my life but he’s only lvl 31

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:43 PM

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zealous sedge My advice is don’t roll affliction. It’s not very enjoyable from what I’ve heard...

i just want dots

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but i dont want to be a bookchicken to do it

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and shadow is......sus.

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their hero talents so far look terrible

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like, the worst i've seen

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:44 PM

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Voidweaver?

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:44 PM

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yeah

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:44 PM

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i think it's really cool

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:45 PM

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Yeah I think voidweaver is dope

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:45 PM

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weird

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:45 PM

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warm topaz i think it's really cool

Have you chosen a race for your warlock yet?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:45 PM

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tropic trail weird

Well won’t really have a real opinion until I play it

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:46 PM

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well i see it requires void torrent

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so its going to force shadowpriests to spec into void torrent

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and lower the cooldown of it

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 8:46 PM

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Voidweaver got me respeccing my disc priest to shadow, I think it looks fun

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:46 PM

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Tbh hero talents are gonna change a lot. What matters most to me is the fantasy. I think all around most of the hero talents fantasy wise are freakin solid. That said, I’m saying this as a Devastation player who’s looking at Paladin. Both classes having literal S+ tier hero talents so

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Maybe not warrior tho… but that’s another thing

cosmic beacon Apr 25, 2024, 8:46 PM

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didnt sp go for void torrent in like every build anyway?

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ive played sp since s1

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and never not had it

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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Basically

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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I honestly like void torrent. Pair it with shadow crash/ and dots for some great aoe damage

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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zealous sedge Have you chosen a race for your warlock yet?

i have my warlock at lvl 63, undead

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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warm topaz i have my warlock at lvl 63, undead

Oh nice!

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I’m undead too haha

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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We already have a name for the Crystal. It's Beledar

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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Shadow not taking void torrent hits the same cord to me as another hunter taking barrage

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I just groan internally

cosmic beacon Apr 25, 2024, 8:47 PM

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unless they added more complexity or abilities to sp it feels incredibly barebones without torrent

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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So we know the crystal is a Naaru ship of some sort

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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Is it?

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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maybe i actually play shadow then

cosmic beacon Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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is a nice short and pretty dope looking ability that hits hard and is very much needed to break the monotony that is current sp

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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WE IN BOYS

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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I have to wonder if the Bel in Beledar is at all related to the Bel in Bel'Ameth

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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silent urchin WE IN BOYS

grats!!!

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New invite wave then?

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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I guess so

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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Praying

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:48 PM

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some time in the last 30 odd minutes

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:49 PM

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All Naaru ships we know of end in -dar Exodar Xenedar, etc

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So if the crystal is Beledar

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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The one thing I hate about SP is mind games - totally useless spell I don’t even include it in my rotation

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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zealous sedge The one thing I hate about SP is mind games - totally useless spell I don’t even...

Is that the crystal’s name?

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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it's not useless, it's an alright chunk of damage and a decent amount of insanity

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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does this mean its doing 120% of spell power max 8 times?

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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better filler than mind spike

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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Pretty sure that's what I read was datamined.

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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or each of the 8 times is 120% spell power?

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 8:50 PM

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What if one of the early Titan experiments to purge the void corruption of the Old Gods was to just stab it with a big ship made of Light stuff dracthyr_hehe

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Oh. I thought beledar was the night elf name for An’she. Maybe I’m confused

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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so 8 x 120% is 960%?

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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tepid fiber What if one of the early Titan experiments to purge the void corruption of the O...

I mean shit when has that ever failed

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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silent urchin it's not useless, it's an alright chunk of damage and a decent amount of insanit...

Okay maybe not completely useless but I’ve found my DPS is much better when it’s not in my rotation compared to when it is

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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key part is up to 8 times

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Tbf the Titans do a lot of trial and error. Sometimes technical troubleshooting can be very dumb

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 8:52 PM

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afaik you don't get anywhere near 8 without already being in an AOE situation

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 8:54 PM

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new Alpha invites!

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:57 PM

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Alright I’m opening the launcher wish me luck 🤞

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:58 PM

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i might actually do shadow if they dont fix affliction.

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H onestly, they should of just left legion affliction alone, it was fun. They've pretty much been on a downward spiral since then.

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What's Shadow's highest damaging ability in a single target fight?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Probably shadow word: death when it procs

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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wait actually?

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No no

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Let me double check

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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I mean, at the end of the boss fight.

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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lol

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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and you see what ability contributed the most damage

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is it a DoT or a non-dot?

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Oh oh

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It’s devouring plague

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It’s a dot

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:01 PM

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well it's both

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there's a big upfront component as well

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Yes

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I originally said it’s both but I’m not sure if that made sense

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:02 PM

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I'm not sure if details tracks them separately, I think they're combined but maybe there's options for it

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 9:02 PM

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No alpha for me. Maybe next week

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:05 PM

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oh the build isn't even out yet, no wonder servers are still down

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 9:07 PM

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https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1783603399453282623

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Beta (wow_beta): 11.0.0.54311 --> 11.0.0.54361

Found at: 04-25-2024@09:06:01 UTC

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lets go

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:07 PM

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oh hey, a build

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 9:10 PM

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time for datamining!

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-war-within-alpha-development-notes/1833243/4

World of Warcraft Forums

The War Within Alpha Development Notes

The War Within Alpha has been updated with Alpha #2, build 54361. NEW ZONES AND DELVES The Ringing Deeps NEW DUNGEONS The Stonevault Darkflame Cleft NEW ALLIED RACE Earthen CHARACTER LEVEL Developers’ note: With each phase, we encourage players to make a new template character and avoid using their previous characters as they could po...

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notes

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:12 PM

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servers are up too

novel zodiac Apr 25, 2024, 9:13 PM

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i hope some of the missing tier sets are in there

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no hallowfall, rip

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 9:14 PM

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god damnit they ruined it

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get this shit out of my spec, worst thing to happen to it

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 9:16 PM

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SO MUCH CONTENT

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LETS GO

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i love new build days

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 9:17 PM

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😮

clear apex Apr 25, 2024, 9:17 PM

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So much new info since last week i feel overwhelmed

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 9:18 PM

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malefic rapture just kills the spec for me

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 9:19 PM

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I like malefic

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BY JOVE THEY FINALLY DID IT?

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 9:20 PM

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rip, no city this week

tepid fiber Apr 25, 2024, 9:23 PM

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It's still not glad spec dracthyr_cry

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 9:27 PM

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magni got new vo

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 9:30 PM

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Oh well, i quit warlock

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I now am shadowpriest.

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:33 PM

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damn I want mecha arms

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magni voiceover is a little pissed off

zealous sedge Apr 25, 2024, 9:35 PM

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Oh I hope that’s a trans mog someday

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 9:37 PM

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DOC OCK?

clear apex Apr 25, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Gdi... client update.... cata classic. *beta
Thanks blizz
..

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 9:50 PM

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https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1783614195243549013

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB) on X

With many eyes, they will see again. They will drink, and be uplifted.

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 9:55 PM

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ok not having any dragonflying talents is a really, really awful experience

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the script to open the window doesn't work on alpha :(

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some day blizz will save settings after you change them, rather than on logout, so disconnects don't wipe any changes

pulsar minnow Apr 25, 2024, 10:15 PM

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warm topaz https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1783614195243549013

That helm is badass

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Also, translucent veil???

ember blaze Apr 25, 2024, 10:18 PM

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tropic trail malefic rapture just kills the spec for me

crazy theyre trippling down on that

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Is it insane to expect a dot spec to do dot damage

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 10:19 PM

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When dots have target scaling issues yes

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I'm excited siphon life is gone

ember blaze Apr 25, 2024, 10:19 PM

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deep pawn When dots have target scaling issues yes

they can figure out the numbers dont care

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they make changes for fire to address ignite and their other aoe spells

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They can put the same effort here

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 10:30 PM

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they can quite easily make multidotting not suck

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they have in the past

tropic trail Apr 25, 2024, 10:50 PM

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ember blaze Is it insane to expect a dot spec to do dot damage

kik

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 10:57 PM

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I got alpha!

tulip sun Apr 25, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Bice!!

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Nice**

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 11:00 PM

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Nice, and there are plenty of bugs to report too!

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 11:04 PM

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Damn, treasure basilisk is a new basilisk model

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That’s like the 3rd in the past decade and the giraffes still look like shit XD

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 11:07 PM

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when was the last time giraffes even appeared?

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 11:08 PM

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I know

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Still tho

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It’s one of the only remaining WC3 models

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Unrelated - they still haven’t updated the brewmaster tree which is odd

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But master of harmony is available so I’m excited to try that when I get home later tonight!

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Not mine

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tulip sun Apr 25, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Is this a day night thing

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Or a bad guy thing

deep pawn Apr 25, 2024, 11:17 PM

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bad guy

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it didn't used to go dark

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and when it's all voidy bad things happen

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wRLQJ_bKW1Y

YouTube

World of Warcraft

Descend into the Ringing Deeps and discover caverns, kobolds and th...

▶ Play video

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all the wax

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Really liking the kobold quests so far

ionic terrace Apr 25, 2024, 11:25 PM

#

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https://tenor.com/view/doc-ock-spider-man-otto-octavius-octavius-spider-verse-gif-19524423

Tenor

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the same picture

warm topaz Apr 25, 2024, 11:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1783638975929893145/photo/1

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB) on X

Champion :D

silent urchin Apr 25, 2024, 11:59 PM

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oh no there's a pipes minigame

dense plover Apr 25, 2024, 11:59 PM

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I love pipes mini games

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 12:00 AM

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help my brain is smooth and there's an NPC blocking the quit button

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figured it out

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guess it ends up being a toy

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I have a feeling this quest will be a little divisive

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Some more neat kobold quests but I can't finish them cause they send you back to the earlier zone which is blocked off for now

glass flicker Apr 26, 2024, 12:11 AM

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warm topaz https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1783638975929893145/photo/1

CHAMPIEN

cosmic beacon Apr 26, 2024, 12:28 AM

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deep pawn I like malefic

the ability by itself is dope class fantasy too

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literally making ur curses explode

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hoping to see the dk stuff in the next few weeks sadCATTING

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Garlic offhand and leek mace

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Maybe trading post? Idk

cosmic beacon Apr 26, 2024, 12:54 AM

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omg leek

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https://tenor.com/view/leekspin-gif-4657848

Tenor

zealous sedge Apr 26, 2024, 1:51 AM

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How’s alpha build 2 for my lucky comrades out there

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Haven’t gotten home yet

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 2:05 AM

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oh, the time rift vendors are back

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booo, the trinkets are explorer only

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I guess you'll just get a chest with the 480 gear next week and the vendor stuff is just "back up"

zealous sedge Apr 26, 2024, 2:10 AM

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The warlock tier set for TWW is… interesting to say the least

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 3:03 AM

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just got home - can confirm alpha

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 3:03 AM

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zealous sedge The warlock tier set for TWW is… interesting to say the least

its only partial

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not finished

zealous sedge Apr 26, 2024, 3:03 AM

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Oh ok

little hound Apr 26, 2024, 3:13 AM

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dense plover Garlic offhand and leek mace

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-farfetchd-pokemon-gif-17872492

Tenor

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 3:18 AM

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Glad you got in faster this time

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 3:19 AM

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me too

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warband is super broken

novel zodiac Apr 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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dense plover warband is super broken

wait, that's real?, i thought it was a meme

ivory meadow Apr 26, 2024, 3:38 AM

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dense plover just got home - can confirm alpha

ayy nice!

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 3:52 AM

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uh

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how do i start expac?

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 5:03 AM

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figured it out

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dont know how to get all my vigor tho

pulsar minnow Apr 26, 2024, 5:11 AM

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Watching toweliees stream right now. Gosh the ringing deeps looks amazing

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Even as the most “basic cave” type of zone its geometry is so fantastical and looks so good

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:12 AM

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dense plover dont know how to get all my vigor tho

it's bugged I think

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there was a script but they disabled it

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 5:12 AM

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FUCK

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when you unlock a flightpoint you get a little banner, also the flightmasters have fancy abovehead icons

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:14 AM

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apparently flight path guys can refill your vigor?

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https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainBlazingWitchSquadGoals--cqCWjX76rJm4K8C

Twitch

Kalamazi - New Malevolence Effect

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Looks so good

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 5:38 AM

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deep pawn it's bugged I think

you just need to get to the dragon isles

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:52 AM

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oh, other people said they couldn't last build

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 5:52 AM

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the drop from ringing deeps to anj kahet is INSANE

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its like from top of valdrakken to bottom

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:52 AM

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neat

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 5:52 AM

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deep pawn oh, other people said they couldn't last build

alliance has trouble, horde can use portal room

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looks like the awakening machine in the ringing deeps is going to be its own game system

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 7:14 AM

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I was able to use the boat to dragon isles as alliance to get my vigor

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REnown track mentions awakening the machine a bunch, but haven't unlocked it yet as the renown levels are bugged and need 42k rep

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 8:37 AM

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Not sure if this was in last build but there's a new map icon for lore clickables

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it also tracks, so once you've read it the icon goes away

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which is interesting

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 9:50 AM

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elp

tropic trail Apr 26, 2024, 10:21 AM

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silent urchin elp

What’s that?

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 10:21 AM

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pipe minigame thing

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gotta slide around the tiles to connect the inpipe to the outpipe

warm topaz Apr 26, 2024, 1:13 PM

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i love those

signal bone Apr 26, 2024, 1:51 PM

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that's cool

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bring back the nazjatar wqs

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plz

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those were actually fun

winged dagger Apr 26, 2024, 2:24 PM

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silent urchin elp

i completed that puzzle.

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it gave me the item
"pocket lint"

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i raged so hard

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Yeah, it wasn't too bad in the end

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and most treasures are placeholders atm

winged dagger Apr 26, 2024, 2:25 PM

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yeah, but i didnt want to be a plumber for the day for pocket lint
I'd rather [Placeholder DNT]
pocketlint is just mean XD

upper pasture Apr 26, 2024, 2:26 PM

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yooo i loved pipe dream. glad to see i'll get to do it in TWW

ionic terrace Apr 26, 2024, 3:47 PM

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looks like DF goes 10-70 now

dense plover Apr 26, 2024, 3:50 PM

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silent urchin it also tracks, so once you've read it the icon goes away

I noticed this too

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I hope they add a lore book to see them again

ionic terrace Apr 26, 2024, 4:04 PM

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heh, WQ rewards don't scale down well

warm topaz Apr 26, 2024, 4:07 PM

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https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1783890416649032049

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB) on X

Spoilerz 🫨

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there it is

ionic terrace Apr 26, 2024, 4:10 PM

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chromie time goes to level 71 now too

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well, the map does anyway

ember blaze Apr 26, 2024, 4:11 PM

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ionic terrace heh, WQ rewards don't scale down well

would be nice if they fixed that

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gear drops are all worthless while leveling

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 4:53 PM

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If that's a giant light's heart that can't be a Naaru lol

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It's not shaped exactly like a typical Naaru ship though

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Could be more to it, the top here doesn't look like something we're intended to see

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:05 PM

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It's shaped very much like a giant heart

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 5:07 PM

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I guess the "This week in wow" previews on monday are fully dead, if that's now what they're calling what used to be blues news on friday

ionic terrace Apr 26, 2024, 5:12 PM

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😔

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Inconsistency is fun

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They must have restructured how they do weekly stuff after a yearly review.

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At least I think the this week schedules had been around for a year at that point

livid walrus Apr 26, 2024, 5:26 PM

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deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:27 PM

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Sounds very Scarlety

livid walrus Apr 26, 2024, 5:29 PM

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just remember there are few arathi groups not just one.

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:30 PM

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You'd imagine the Empire and Emperor is the largest

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM

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this book may also be up to 300 years old or so

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM

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If we kill the Emperor, I think that's our first of that title to get the chop

uncut vault Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM

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livid walrus

Love this… but if I were in alpha, I’d probably report that they shouldn’t be called paladins, given paladins didn’t exist until 3000 years after these humans split off haha

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM

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Unless Beledar taught them paladin ways

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You'd think it'd be a different word if it was Naaru taught though

uncut vault Apr 26, 2024, 5:33 PM

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They still wouldn’t be called paladins though, they’d be more likely to be vindicators in that case

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That’s what I assumed Lamplighter was, their word for paladin basically

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Maybe they don't want it to be that obvious there's a live Naaru inside that

livid walrus Apr 26, 2024, 5:36 PM

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uncut vault Love this… but if I were in alpha, I’d probably report that they shouldn’t be ca...

it is quite tricky to go there . i will try to see if i can manage f6 it

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:36 PM

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Hardest thing for me to believe is that they still speak common.

livid walrus Apr 26, 2024, 5:42 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=222191/knight-elvaen the person who likely to wrote this tome

Wowhead

Knight Elvaen

The location of this NPC is unknown. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within. Always up to date with the latest patch.

uncut vault Apr 26, 2024, 5:45 PM

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So it’s not an ancient thing, interesting

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Makes me wonder if they have a current emperor or if it’s a deification of Thoradin

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 5:47 PM

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I'm personally getting lich vibes

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 5:51 PM

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uncut vault Apr 26, 2024, 6:00 PM

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deep pawn I'm personally getting lich vibes

you'd figure the custom light undead models would be used in that case haha

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 6:00 PM

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Think Githyanki

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Imagine if this expansion ends with Calia as Queen of the Arathi.

zealous sedge Apr 26, 2024, 7:55 PM

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I could see it. Then they reclaim arathi highlands in midnight - could work because of the rework of quel Thalas and possibly the wider region of lordaeron.

plain violet Apr 26, 2024, 8:00 PM

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silent urchin

That's so adorable.

subtle oar Apr 26, 2024, 8:06 PM

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deep pawn Imagine if this expansion ends with Calia as Queen of the Arathi.

Would not make any sense

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 8:07 PM

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The Menethils are descendants of Arathi nobility

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 8:08 PM

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zealous sedge I could see it. Then they reclaim arathi highlands in midnight - could work beca...

Technically Arathi is already reclaimed by it's current king

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But he has no heirs

warm topaz Apr 26, 2024, 8:10 PM

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https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1783949199601537346/photo/2

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft) on X

Speaker Brinthe returns from exile alongside heroes like you to save the Ringing Deeps.

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 8:19 PM

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I feel like we've done the help an exile take control before.

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That's basically the Nightborne plot lol

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 8:22 PM

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Its somewhat different

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although I haven't seen how we first meet brinthe

tulip sun Apr 26, 2024, 8:26 PM

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She's part of the council in Dornogal

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It isn't really the same

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She's part of the main government

warm topaz Apr 26, 2024, 8:34 PM

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do you see a world where they could add some small content between patches in order to present us some new characters?

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like, for example, 10.2 comes out, and in week 6, they add a questline that send us to "x" and we do "y" there

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 8:39 PM

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Dornogal isn't a central government. The earthen appear to be three drastically different nations and the Speaker was just the representative of the underground group.

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We know the society is kinda falling apart when we show up

silent urchin Apr 26, 2024, 8:41 PM

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oh wowhead just posted the big spoilers for the zone quests

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so you can get the info there if you want

tulip sun Apr 26, 2024, 8:41 PM

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deep pawn Dornogal isn't a central government. The earthen appear to be three drastically ...

council

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They may be sects within one culture but they're together

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 8:45 PM

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Council can mean a lot of things, you wouldn't say the Horde council directly rules the affairs of Thunder Bluff or that Turalyon has any say whatsoever at Bel'Ameth

tulip sun Apr 26, 2024, 8:46 PM

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OK let's take a step back there quick lol

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The Horde Council absolutely has the absolute power in the Horde. It's the warchief but with everyone having a say.

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The Alliance isn't even one nation. They're just a coalition of sorts, allies sworn to defend eachother.

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Dornogal has a council ruling, and they all have very specific jobs. Different sects have different jobs. If they weren't one body then they wouldn't be so segregated

clear apex Apr 26, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Seems like a caste system

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Though it seemed implied or stated (back at blizzcon) that there's one group who seems more like rebels

austere gazelle Apr 26, 2024, 9:01 PM

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deep pawn I'm personally getting lich vibes

or Dreadlords xD

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 9:03 PM

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tulip sun The Horde Council absolutely has the absolute power in the Horde. It's the warch...

Even the warchiefs didn't have absolute say when they existed. The two that tried were both deposed fast

blazing granite Apr 26, 2024, 9:08 PM

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It seems to me that Anduin will be the only main character who will remain in the center throughout the whole saga.
And among the cast will be at least one of his peers acting on the side, if not more.
In Midnight it will be him, the elven leaders and Turalyon, with Vereesa's sons and Arator as main peers. Someone on the Horde side will be active, too.
In The Last Titan it will be him, the Aspects, Jaina and Bolvar (the latter two will most likely die), with Wrathion and Taelia as main peers.

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 9:27 PM

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Arator has a strong chance of not even living this expansion

tulip sun Apr 26, 2024, 9:31 PM

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deep pawn Even the warchiefs didn't have absolute say when they existed. The two that trie...

Key word right there. They had the power but the people resisted and overthrew them.

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 9:33 PM

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All the power in the world is meaningless if you can't employ it. Thrall and Vol'jin lead the Horde only in military matters primarily.

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It was Garrosh and Sylvanas that tried to exceed that purview for their own gains and it lead directly to Garrosh's death and Sylvanas's current penance.

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I don't think a single warchief ever had the power to make Silvermoon do anything it didn't want to.

tulip sun Apr 26, 2024, 9:37 PM

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They had all power to command them to do what they want. Whether they did or not is another question.

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They did/do have the authority to.

deep pawn Apr 26, 2024, 9:43 PM

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My understanding is Warchief is literally the name, the chief that lead the entire Horde in War matters

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Every clan/race has their own leaders still who handled local matters

tropic trail Apr 26, 2024, 10:20 PM

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iuf they decoupled malefic rapture from requiring dots to do its full damage, it would be looked on more favorably.

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(Which basically means get rid of Malefic Rapture)

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setup for setup feels bad

warm topaz Apr 26, 2024, 11:57 PM

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https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/1784005024085058042?t=yY9kppmZoO4H7Jx1Tr1Hlw&s=33

Ellie - might post spoilers-ish 💙 (@keyboardturn) on X

At the entryway into Azj-Kahet from Hallowfall, there are swirling roots that block a passageway into the ceiling above. Going past the roots there's nothing really there, but it is a peculiar and long passage.

silent urchin Apr 27, 2024, 12:05 AM

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I'm not sure that's meant to be anything, there's a few things like it in the ringing depths, they're just basically light sources

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got invisible walls and everything (except one which just lets you fly out of the map)

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https://i.imgur.com/9nWVXd5.jpeg like this

Imgur

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 12:49 AM

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silent urchin https://i.imgur.com/9nWVXd5.jpeg like this

could be a delve

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like, a not currently enabled one

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 2:07 AM

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theres an elevator with a rusty lever in ringing deeps

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and it has a quest

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and if you fix it, it provides a new way to return to the isle of dorn

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it just teleports you (a bit sad) but its still cool

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"Rust and Redemption" is the quest

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looks like there are several elevators like that

zealous sedge Apr 27, 2024, 3:11 AM

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deep pawn Technically Arathi is already reclaimed by it's current king

Ooh okay, then maybe just succeeds because of the no heirs part!

blazing granite Apr 27, 2024, 1:10 PM

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Some VERY BIG spoilers here
https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/78824-unraveling-the-war-within-story-through-datamining/

Icy Veins

Unraveling the War Within Story Through Datamining

Weve uncovered portions of the War Within story through datamining! The post obviously contains spoilers so proceed at your own risk! The cutscene and cinematic text is in no particular order here. In-Game Cinematic Movie (IGC): Title: 11.0 [MAG] - Magnis Sacrifice Scene Description: Magni sacrif...

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 1:53 PM

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arathi rep pet.

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livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 1:59 PM

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livid walrus

Light Army??

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 2:39 PM

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tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Huh

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 3:13 PM

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Broadcasting text.

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As in npc sentances

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:15 PM

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blazing granite Some VERY BIG spoilers here https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/78824-unravel...

reading through

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seems neat

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i think the big crystal in Hallowfall is either The Eternal Flame, or Beledar

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some of these npcs arent even in the files yet tho

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like Orwena

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the cutscenes sound cool tho

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i like how there are cinematics leading into dungeons

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dungeons didnt play a significant role in dragonflight and it looks like theyre returning to dungeons being part of the story again

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especially now that you can do them with npcs

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this is the most interesting so far

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jaina and thrall are coming in by boat and wont be in dalaran when it is destroyed

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we are getting new 2.5D cinematics!

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didnt expect lilian to really be present in TWW - interesting choice

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:19 PM

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dense plover like Orwena

It's Orweyna- the Harronir leader

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:19 PM

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tulip sun It's Orweyna- the Harronir leader

ah so its a typo

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:19 PM

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And Thrall and Jaina are on dalaran when it crashes, they left to get reinforcements

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This is them coming back

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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ah ok

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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dense plover ah so its a typo

Yeah typo. I'm real excited to see her

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Oh wow another "kill the queen on of the mantis" But this time its spiders

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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yeah im fairly sure The Eternal Flame is the name of the order of light, since the other guys are The Order of Night

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Gorgonna, VossN Geyarah and others are in the files.

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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This family problems that being solved by players once again

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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and Beledar is the giant crystal in hallowfall

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Interesting Voss is in the nerubian zone

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:21 PM

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tulip sun Interesting Voss is in the nerubian zone

right?

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:21 PM

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I'm glad to see it because I was a bit...disheartened? By the lack of Horde in the first two

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And probably third

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:21 PM

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lol

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 3:23 PM

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Who is Y'tekni?
Or what is that?

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:24 PM

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The most intriguing parts to me were seeing Thrall and Voss being present made me feel a lot better.

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And the earthen intro/unification.

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Aurora was mentioned in the intro cutscene for earthen. I wonder if in the end, Dawn and Aurora will be the faction representatives

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:25 PM

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crystal pond Who is Y'tekni? Or what is that?

A high ranking nerubian I assume

warm topaz Apr 27, 2024, 3:25 PM

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dense plover we are getting new 2.5D cinematics!

what are those?

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 3:26 PM

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Voss usually goes by calia and it does make sense calia eill be in hallowsfall . With the light and the risen npcs.

tulip sun Apr 27, 2024, 3:26 PM

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The link above

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Calia isn't in the files at all

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Voss probably came with the reinforcements that a Theall gathered.

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We see many notable leaders and then generic soldiers in the files

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:32 PM

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warm topaz what are those?

like the warbringers cinematics

warm topaz Apr 27, 2024, 3:33 PM

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oh, amazing

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Thrall/xala/anduin/alleria i suspect

clear apex Apr 27, 2024, 3:47 PM

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Didn't they open up ringing deeps on alpha?
I ask because so far i haven't seen much about it. I mostly watch vod stuff on YouTube but... haven't seen it

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:51 PM

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finding bugs like this are why they bring me in

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camera angle can make the zone disappear

silent urchin Apr 27, 2024, 3:51 PM

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yeah, found a few of those

clear apex Apr 27, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Also nevermind. Hazelnutty vod uploaded for ringing deeps.
Neat looking zone

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 3:58 PM

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idk

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i dont think i like it?

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it feels weirdly empty

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some parts are full of life, other parts have no critters or decorations and its just rocks

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it feels unfinished i guess

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i hope it is

clear apex Apr 27, 2024, 4:03 PM

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It's alpha so it likely is very empty right now. I think they said the topside was also empty right now bc they don't have all the npc placed

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 4:03 PM

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oh neat, speaker brinthe's house has music

clear apex Apr 27, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I want to tame these weird mole things. But i haven't seen any hunter gameplay

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 4:07 PM

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so i did this quest on an alt - because ive already done it on my warband, it shows as a paler color

warm topaz Apr 27, 2024, 4:21 PM

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dense plover oh neat, speaker brinthe's house has music

MJSIC? is it cool?

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 4:26 PM

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warm topaz MJSIC? is it cool?

think so

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 5:02 PM

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We know multiple leaders are hearing Azeroth

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We already know Talanji is in the bottom zone too

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 5:52 PM

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"You, Faerin, and Anduin entered the cave to stop the Order of Night's shadowy ritual to corrupt the Sacred Flame. " It does seem the sacred flame is not the crystal

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 6:01 PM

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Odds are we're gonna see a mix of other stuff with the Arathi

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At least one quest or achievement will be named "For the night is dark and full of terrors"

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 6:57 PM

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proper palm Apr 27, 2024, 7:01 PM

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Wtf, anduin sacrificed himsel

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oh nvm it's drama plow twist xD

harsh mason Apr 27, 2024, 7:17 PM

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blazing granite Some VERY BIG spoilers here https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/78824-unravel...

I hope icy-veins -will block the hell out for this. Just why? Like, what did people there want to achieve with this? What was the goal????

blazing granite Apr 27, 2024, 7:17 PM

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As the one who recently finished re-reading all of the material somewhat circling around Anduin's character

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 7:24 PM

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I swear if I see one Azor Ahai prophecy from the Arathi

blazing granite Apr 27, 2024, 7:35 PM

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livid walrus

||IT HURTS how much of an obvious "future love interest" she is, it's not even funny||

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||I had doubts given the lack of info about her, but this||

tropic trail Apr 27, 2024, 7:49 PM

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proper palm Wtf, anduin sacrificed himsel

Sacrificed himself what for? 👀

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 8:03 PM

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deep pawn We already know Talanji is in the bottom zone too

im willing to bet she was a placeholder for orwenya

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dont think theres been any evidence of talanji in the expac so far

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yeah there is no talanji npc, items, quests, icons, or anything

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this is the talanji image

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its 100% orweyna

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probably used talanji as a placeholder

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this is orweyna's model

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the fact that she has a unique model certainly puts her in a significant role this expac

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found it

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@deep pawn

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100% an orweyna placeholder

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Aww, I was hoping for some Talanji and Loa stuff

mighty wolf Apr 27, 2024, 8:17 PM

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deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 8:18 PM

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I wonder if these are gonna be dark trolls or void trolls haha

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Dark trolls come from primal trolls that popped off somewhere somehow

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So probably void trolls lolz

austere gazelle Apr 27, 2024, 8:36 PM

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Those new trolls?
I think they are a byproduct of troll getting too close of Elune's tree roots. Proto night elves I guess, influenced by life magic

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 8:43 PM

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livid walrus

||anduin gonna face jailer moment but with Xal'atath this time lmao||

blazing granite Apr 27, 2024, 8:47 PM

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tropic trail Sacrificed himself what for? 👀

||To let us escape the nerubians (they were about to destroy the ship we escape on), Varian 2.0, only he is not seen actually killed||

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 9:07 PM

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blazing granite ||To let us escape the nerubians (they were about to destroy the ship we escape ...

Nonono
He had similar moment when he sacrificed him self: maked shield so everyone can escape from the maw through the portal

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Everyone was thinking that he is ded at first but no

austere gazelle Apr 27, 2024, 9:08 PM

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This is a weak narrative tool used there. I mean, he just returned, its the first part of the expansion, we know he won't die, so what's the point of this turn of event ?

crystal pond Apr 27, 2024, 9:14 PM

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Blizzard being blizzard

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My friend joked that in this expac anduin will became bad
In midnight he will be one of big bad but then we will beat shit out of him and he will return back to light

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And with that writing i mean

upper pasture Apr 27, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Ain’t no shot

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:27 PM

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Ugh please don't be repeating the baddie is collecting the named chars plot.

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Yes I know that lasted a total of 2 hours in Shadowlands but still.

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"this ritual requires an arcane and divine caster!"

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:33 PM

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blazing granite ||IT HURTS how much of an obvious "future love interest" she is, it's not even f...

Anduin collects those like others collect gear. He's up to Wrathion, Taelia, and now someone else? Taelia still makes more sense being the child of Anduin's childhood guardian.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Wrathion was entirely fans

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same with Taelia tbh

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oh no - a person interacts with anduin and has voice acting, they must want to be anduin's love interest!

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main characters dont have love stories in wow

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those only happen when the character isnt the story focus

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:36 PM

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And this Arathi is probably gonna be fans too. Unless Anduin falls in love in a book and 12.0 has his wedding short story /s

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:37 PM

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i dont think he will end up in a relationship

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and if he does, itll be someone who matters or someone who REALLY doesnt

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:37 PM

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I forget, Thrall fell in love in a book right and Aggra just showed up in Cata?

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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yes

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and all of the love story stuff happened out of game

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Except the wedding

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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yes

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just like how we got that malfurion/tyrande kiss

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Oh that was a fun patch, people hated it

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If I remember the Thrall wedding was the entire quest of a patch and alliance was furious

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:39 PM

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we wont get a full romance

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we might get some stuff with lorthemar in the next expac

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or the one after?

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but we wont get a NEW romance in game

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:39 PM

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I suppose we could see Anduin being all "there will be no more king" and try to transition to a Republic.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:40 PM

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dont think thats a priority either

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we are going from TWW to Northrend

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so the focus will be on northrend

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i dont see us revisiting stormwind until 12.X

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Otherwise his lack of an heir in a very dangerous world kinda will be an issue eventually

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:40 PM

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since that patch will involve blood elf areas and silvermoon is close-ish to stormwind

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:40 PM

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deep pawn Otherwise his lack of an heir in a very dangerous world kinda will be an issue e...

except they can just appoint people

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plus turalyon is in charge currently

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and genn has a child

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:41 PM

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Usually that type of appointment involves civil wars.

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Tess won't suddenly become queen of Stormwind

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:42 PM

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she might if turalyon, genn, and anduin cant

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:42 PM

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I still can't wait for the Trollbanes to meet the Arathi Emperor or his heir if we have to end him.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:42 PM

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deep pawn I still can't wait for the Trollbanes to meet the Arathi Emperor or his heir if ...

arent the trollbanes dead?

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:43 PM

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One is a Horseman, and I think there's another still in charge.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:43 PM

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theyre not gonna matter

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the arathi are in hallowfall

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youre creating scenarios that arent going to playout

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:44 PM

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I'm gonna bet they will think they deserve to rule the surface now that the way is fully open again.

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You don't have an expansionistic empire with an emperor that deified that isn't a problem eventually.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:45 PM

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deep pawn You don't have an expansionistic empire with an emperor that deified that isn't ...

what evidence do we have of them being expansionists?

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because they were thousands of years ago?

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youre inventing things to fit the story you want

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none of the datamined stuff hints at any of what youre saying

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it appears right now the primary focus for hallowfall will be a sect who believes in the light, and the Order of Night who are siding with the void

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and we are probably going to be working on stabilizing the crystal thing

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:47 PM

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has anyone found the underhold or whatever delve

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:48 PM

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hold on

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:48 PM

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ionic terrace has anyone found the underhold or whatever delve

i dont think there are any delves in the ringing deeps currently

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like - enabled

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so theyre probably closed off like they will be during delve rotations

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:48 PM

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there's the waterworks

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the pit is disabled, yes

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:49 PM

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dense plover what evidence do we have of them being expansionists?

There's that book of a paladin who's entire goal is to spread the empire and it's light to every chasm of the underground

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:49 PM

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ionic terrace has anyone found the underhold or whatever delve

this is the map

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looks nerubian

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so - we might not have access at all

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:50 PM

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it's listed under ringing depths

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:50 PM

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yeah

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thats this map

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deepwalker hold

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:50 PM

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The Arathi are a militaristic religious group.

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:50 PM

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deep pawn The Arathi are a militaristic religious group.

dont jump to conclusions - just wait a week. the story will be live next week

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:51 PM

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yeah i know, they changed the name to The Underkeep

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:51 PM

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ionic terrace yeah i know, they changed the name to The Underkeep

oh, well they kept the map name

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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there is no underkeep map

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:52 PM

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not that it matters much since brann's ui is throwng lua errors now lol

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:53 PM

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my guess is its in the bottom right corner - the pink area

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:53 PM

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i'm assuiming that most of his stuff is NYI

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or needs him to be a higher level, but i think unlocking stuffup to level 8 and then nothing after means NYI

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:54 PM

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nvm delves ARE working

ionic terrace Apr 27, 2024, 9:54 PM

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yeah but only that one and maybe the onei can't find

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 9:57 PM

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livid walrus

@dense plover this is the book that makes me think the Arathi are a bit of zealous expansionists

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 9:58 PM

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wasnt that guy literally dying?

deep pawn Apr 27, 2024, 10:01 PM

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You think he is just delirious and that's not the type of fervor we should be expecting from a society that's built entirely around fighting "the shadow"?

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 10:06 PM

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huh

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waterworks delve works

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other one doesnt

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this area is entirely inaccessible

dense plover Apr 27, 2024, 10:28 PM

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are you not allowed to level up in alpha?

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like past 73

livid walrus Apr 27, 2024, 11:13 PM

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You can level up to 75 i think.

silent urchin Apr 27, 2024, 11:39 PM

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if you take the "get hero talents" option you get capped at 73

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if you just take the regular teleport to zone option you can level from 73 to 75

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 1:56 AM

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silent urchin if you just take the regular teleport to zone option you can level from 73 to 75

thats wild because none of the quests are giving me xp

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OH WAIT

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i know whats happening

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when you teleport back to the zone, it resets your xp to 0

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nope nvm

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my characters xp is just broken

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 2:41 AM

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turns out fearbreaker is wow's mjolnir

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and moira is the new wielder

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reward for the questline

deep pawn Apr 28, 2024, 3:15 AM

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hopefully that's a world quest tri nket too

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 3:34 AM

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think ive done all the quests i can do

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the rest require returning to the isle of dorn or moving forward to hallowfall

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i dont love this zone

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but i think it might also be me suffering from confusion caused by missing cutscenes and also the previous zone's story

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i definitely think the visuals need work

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the back half of the zone feels unfinished

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 3:59 AM

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any ideas for what i should test before next thursday?

zealous sedge Apr 28, 2024, 4:00 AM

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Professions?

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 4:04 AM

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is this an old model?

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i dont recognize it

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 4:06 AM

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zealous sedge Professions?

professions dont seem particularly functional yet

zealous sedge Apr 28, 2024, 4:08 AM

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dense plover is this an old model?

that looks like a new model tbh

zealous sedge Apr 28, 2024, 4:09 AM

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dense plover professions dont seem particularly functional yet

oh okay i thought i read somewhere some are partially functional

deep pawn Apr 28, 2024, 4:15 AM

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alchemy and enchanting is fully I think.

cerulean lava Apr 28, 2024, 6:16 AM

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dense plover is this an old model?

yepp thats a rare that can be found in Uldum

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https://www.wowhead.com/npc=51402/madexx

Wowhead

Madexx

This scorpid is a rare tamable spawn with a unique green skin. Madexx is a level 35 Rare NPC that can be found in Uldum. In the Scorpid NPCs category.

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 6:17 AM

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cerulean lava yepp thats a rare that can be found in Uldum

Haven’t seen the model before, fits in well tho

cerulean lava Apr 28, 2024, 6:17 AM

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Its probably a placeholder model tbh

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No way they'll reuse like that😭 🙏

warm topaz Apr 28, 2024, 8:11 AM

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cerulean lava No way they'll reuse like that😭 🙏

i think it looks cool tho

tropic trail Apr 28, 2024, 8:46 AM

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cerulean lava https://www.wowhead.com/npc=51402/madexx

Nice crab 🦀

warm topaz Apr 28, 2024, 9:10 AM

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harsh mason I hope icy-veins -will block the hell out for this. Just why? Like, what did peo...

+1

livid walrus Apr 28, 2024, 9:47 AM

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you can highlight yourself.

little hound Apr 28, 2024, 10:32 AM

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dense plover is this an old model?

Its old. Several with different colors at start of nighthold raid

livid walrus Apr 28, 2024, 1:20 PM

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well we know it now.. but i found this sound file. of magni

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and our most beloved word

austere gazelle Apr 28, 2024, 2:41 PM

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dense plover this is the map

looks like the stockades map lol

tulip sun Apr 28, 2024, 3:52 PM

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dense plover theyre not gonna matter

Danath is in the files and seemingly arrives with the reinforcements alongside stromic troops

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He got a snazzy new MOG too

subtle oar Apr 28, 2024, 5:01 PM

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livid walrus and our most beloved word

I was expecting "THE WOOOUNDS"

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Am dissapoint

deep pawn Apr 28, 2024, 5:57 PM

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tulip sun Danath is in the files and seemingly arrives with the reinforcements alongside s...

Nice, I knew they'd have to be involved somehow

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Now if Thoras can take some time off being a DK pet...

tepid fiber Apr 28, 2024, 5:59 PM

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Pet??? He's one of the Four Horsemen what are you on about this time

uncut vault Apr 28, 2024, 6:02 PM

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The Rider of the Apocalypse stuff are essentially just fancy looking pet summons haha

deep pawn Apr 28, 2024, 6:03 PM

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The 4 horsemen are literally dk pets, sorry, guardians, in TWW

blazing granite Apr 28, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Are there any Hallowfall/Azjkahet story-related voice lines available currently?

dense plover Apr 28, 2024, 8:21 PM

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blazing granite Are there any Hallowfall/Azjkahet story-related voice lines available currently?

hard to check

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nearly no voice files are in

tulip sun Apr 28, 2024, 8:43 PM

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Faerin does I believe

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I think it was in mrgms video

deep pawn Apr 28, 2024, 9:36 PM

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I think all we have really is the story recaps

tulip sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:02 PM

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There's some unencrypted stuff

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 12:16 PM

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hmm, childrens week is live but none of those datamined holiday assets with the patchwork rainbow decorations have been added

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or any updates at all, it seems

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maybe the art was just done at the same time as the rest, and they plan to update it later?

zealous sedge Apr 29, 2024, 3:23 PM

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Maybe. I remember reading they extended the duration by 3 days. Maybe it’ll update with the reset? That would be unusual tho.

warm topaz Apr 29, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Blizzard is going to Gamescom this year

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 5:00 PM

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https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24072109/floral-fancies-festoon-mays-trading-post

World of Warcraft

Floral Fancies Festoon May’s Trading Post - WoW

A variety of new items are flowering in this month’s Trading Post. Embrace the spirit of spring when you gild your back with the Wings of the Amber Monarch.

warm topaz Apr 29, 2024, 5:10 PM

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really good month

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imo

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i love the staff

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 5:15 PM

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wings feel a bit weak to me but I like all the regular stuff

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And I do like the wings, it's just they're a recolour of just one bit of the faerie dragon store set

clear apex Apr 29, 2024, 5:32 PM

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I like the trading post but this is a very summer/ fall theme and confuses me since they usually try to be thematic

deep pawn Apr 29, 2024, 5:48 PM

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woo, I get to save tenders cause no mounts I want

livid walrus Apr 29, 2024, 6:11 PM

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bug but you can skyriding in Dreadscar rift and Skyhold

dense plover Apr 29, 2024, 6:12 PM

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I would’ve liked the wings to include multiple colors

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The prices are still kinda crazy

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Wish the weapons weren’t 200-300 each

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That should be the cost of a set of weapons, not one weapon

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Unrelated - new dev build on wowdev

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Maybe we will get the next deploy before Thursday

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ionic terrace Apr 29, 2024, 6:17 PM

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dense plover Maybe we will get the next deploy before Thursday

dobut it, it was the same last week, dev on monday

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they want a week for each zone

warm topaz Apr 29, 2024, 6:22 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/es/news/the-war-within-creator-summit-group-interview-michael-bybee-and-sean-mccann-338883

Wowhead

The War Within - Creator Summit Group Interview - Michael Bybee and...

Details from the Content Creator Summit group interview with Michael Bybee and Sean McCann.

ionic terrace Apr 29, 2024, 6:37 PM

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I read his name as Michael bay blade

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dracthyr_hehe

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 6:45 PM

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I could see them moving the alpha patch earlier, it's not like there's a whole lot to test right now

glass flicker Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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Let it rip.

dense plover Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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silent urchin I could see them moving the alpha patch earlier, it's not like there's a whole l...

There really isn’t - a lot of the ringing deeps stuff is stuck because it requires going to the Isle of Dorn

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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Plus there's fewer other deployments going on this week

dense plover Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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And a bunch of other stuff is rep locked

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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Eh, it's only a couple side quest bits that go to dorn

dense plover Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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Like whatever the awakening machine stuff is

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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rep needing 42k/level is funny though

dense plover Apr 29, 2024, 6:47 PM

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silent urchin Eh, it's only a couple side quest bits that go to dorn

I don’t think so - the kobolds are half of the rep quests

silent urchin Apr 29, 2024, 6:47 PM

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you can actually do the awakening the machine event, but it's set to level 80 (and you need a bunch of rep to get more power in it anyway)

glass flicker Apr 29, 2024, 6:47 PM

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There better be an achievement for flying into the big glowing gem that's totally not Gorribal.

ionic terrace Apr 29, 2024, 6:48 PM

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I don’t think you can actually fly to it

glass flicker Apr 29, 2024, 6:48 PM

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D'oh.

ionic terrace Apr 29, 2024, 6:48 PM

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It’s either part of the skybox or just too far I think

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I could be wrong

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We never did find the third delve, did we? @silent urchin

glass flicker Apr 29, 2024, 6:49 PM

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I hope you can fly into it and take death times a thousand damage.

warm topaz Apr 29, 2024, 6:49 PM

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