yes, but it takes playing the game and some RNG to get there
#beta-ptr-spoilers
upper pasture
rain cave
look at helldivers, that game thrives and people do not give a fuck about the meta
warframe as well
tepid fiber
Different kind of game
rain cave
I'm aware
just saying that you can ignore the number people whining
as long as you balance stuff to be fun
tepid fiber
That's why they're tuning and adjusting stuff
upper pasture
the thing is i am having fun.
tepid fiber
There was literally just a news post about tuning
upper pasture
lots of people are having fun
tepid fiber
Oh, plenty of people are having fun
rain cave
I'm moreso talking about general mindset
tepid fiber
I'm jealous, I'd play right now I'd I could 
rain cave
like if this had just been speedlevelling BR with talents and effects
tepid fiber
Then it'd be more of the same that everyone expects and that's boring
rain cave
I guess I just feel like WoW has cooler stuff to offer than randomly picking up some pretty low key abilities from the floor that don't really feel satisfying to use
the cast times and aiming just feel... clunky to me
there's very little game feel to the loop
upper pasture
okay
rain cave
the impacts don't hit hard, they don't go bang or crunch
the spells just go
like imagine if the rime arrow thing used glacial spikes animation or even frostbolt
would just feel better
rn it just feels like chucking a stone at someone
tepid fiber
This entire game has just been 19 years of pushing buttons and making numbers happen while trying to make our dolls look cool. Also, chucking a rock can be quite effective
rain cave
the mackerel has almost no animation to speak of, the cone is very underpronounced, and the follw up attack if you land the 2nd hit doesn't even have extra vfx for the special damage
the shield and quaking leap reactivating mechanic just feels wrong to do
tepid fiber
So you just want more high vfx power fantasy?
upper pasture
i don't think you do
rain cave
but I feel that WoW's tech just isn't up to snuff for SMITE-esque quick reaction direction target gameplay
like even in normal WoW, pillars and melee in PvP are abused
the games pillars are just not built around action combat like that
if they'd made this in HotS? it would feel a lot better since that has a better foundation for these kinda interactions
upper pasture
"abused" it's called LoS it's a strategie
rain cave
really is, they can befar away from the corner and stil lbe LOS'd
I understand what it is, and how it can be legit
it just feels weird on some arenas for example
deep pawn
I do think this should have been marketed as an entire different game, not an update for Dragonflight
rain cave
some of those old hitboxes are just not up to snuff
deep pawn
plus the whole oceanic lag fiasco
rain cave
even picking up spells is so whack
upper pasture
it was marketed as something to do for the whole WoW community not just retail
(well the subbed community)
deep pawn
It's just a fun little bonus game mode for 6 weeks
with the grindest rewards ever
upper pasture
which was even hotfixed
tepid fiber
Cosmetics
upper pasture
yet still complaining
deep pawn
Imagine they added an epic dragonriding mount that required 20+ hours of Overwatch
tepid fiber
And yeah, hotfixed to be easier
deep pawn
It's still way to damn slow, I average 500-800 plunder a match still
And that's trying to get late game kills
tepid fiber
Imagine they added an epic dragonriding mount that required 20+ hours of Overwat...
What makes it better than any other dragonriding mount other than appearance?
upper pasture
then i'm sorry you're just bad at it then
deep pawn
My point is that they should add cosmetics that requires you to dump weeks of gameplay into another game that isn't WoW
upper pasture
you should be able to easily get 500-800 in the first area you drop if completing the quest at the same time
tepid fiber
They're optional, none of it is required. If you want the rewards, you play the content. If you don't want to play the content, you don't get the rewards. That's how it is
What, you want free stuff just for logging on?
deep pawn
You got a free mount for logging into hearthstone, so yeah /s
tepid fiber
That's my point. You already get that too
upper pasture
not everything needs to be so low effort it takes 2 mins to earn it
deep pawn
I'm renown 13 and I've sunk hours into this game mode, probably more than most, and I just don't want to be playing a Battle Royale just to get a bird shaped dragonriding mount and an awesome transmog. I'd rather be playing WoW
rain cave
if there was a way to earn it in retail as well
upper pasture
then that's fine
rain cave
would be nice
upper pasture
don't earn it
noone but yourself is forcing you to play the BR
because you "want/need" this stuff
tepid fiber
if there was a way to earn it in retail as well
There should be a way to earn elite rated pvp cosmetics by doing pug raiding, by that logic
rain cave
I agree
tepid fiber
Ugh
rain cave
transmog should be more open
deep pawn
I'm going to earn it because I'm not passing it up or using fomo tenders later on, it's just gonna make me resentful while doing it and I want an option to remove the plunderstorm logo from my char select when I'm done
tepid fiber
Gamers
rain cave
I'm only kinda joking though
I get locking it behind something
but my issue with elite pvp is locking it behind a timed thing
if this transmog wasn't tied to a time limited event I'd just wait until war within and get it then
tepid fiber
six weeks
rain cave
but it's annoying that I feel I have to come back just to do this
rain cave
That's most of a pregnancy
lmao what
upper pasture
blizzard should just put all this in the shop, elite pvp mogs, limited time event mogs, things that take time to grind. just let us buy it all so all the gamers that just want to do nothing but also look cool can fund blizzard
deep pawn
I just wish they had treated this like they do every other crossover rather than doing a backdoor pilot of a new game and bribing players with like $50 worth of cosmetics to have pve fodder for the pvp players
tepid fiber
Wait weeks months blue I'm fucking baked
rain cave
I just wish things were gettable without the date in the bottom right of my screen being a factor
that's all
and most people agree with that
tepid fiber
Six weeks there are professionals who go to school for less time who are entrusted with lives, you've got time
upper pasture
i'd wager a bet these will come back in the trading post at some point
rain cave
it's not a matter of having time
tepid fiber
There, fixed
rain cave
it's a matter of doing it now
I don't want to have a looming timer over my head reminding me to get it
I want to play to have fun not to feel FOMO
if there was no FOMO this game mode would be more fun
upper pasture
i'm not sure you're capable honestly
tepid fiber
Now 👏 now 👏 now 👏 gotta feed that dopamine gimme what I want and I want it now, where's my cash settlement J G Wentworth???
rain cave
i'm not sure you're capable honestly
why are you so rude to me man 😭
tepid fiber
if there was no FOMO this game mode would be more fun
I don't think you like live service MMOs
rain cave
I just come in here occasionally to praise or critique things and discuss things
I love warcraft, always have
tepid fiber
Yeah but the stuff you critique is just asinine
upper pasture
it always seems to lean more on critiquing tho
tepid fiber
There's plenty of stuff worth criticism that doesn't get critique
rain cave
I want the game to be better what can I say
tepid fiber
Better for you doesn't mean better for the game
upper pasture
and it's always the weirdest shit, like this is a BR this is how BRs are played. earn the rewards and put in the time or don't.
rain cave
I want the game to be something I can log onto every night again
BR's have never been about rewards though to me
tepid fiber
I want the game to be something I can log onto every night again
I mean either you do or you don't
rain cave
I can't think of BR's that have reward incentives
upper pasture
....
rain cave
usually it's just the gameplay loop that gets people hooked
tepid fiber
All of the rewards are incentives
upper pasture
anyone that has a battle pass system
rain cave
yeah but that comes from other stuff doesn't it
idk
I don't play BRs really
because of battle passes
upper pasture
i can't think of a BR that DOESNT have reward incentives
rain cave
and also I hate the drop in with nothing style
rain cave
which is the GAMEPLAY LOOP
everything within the match is the gameplay loop to me
the monetization is just greed
rain cave
battle passes in games
upper pasture
BPs in general?
upper pasture
ah yeah, well that's why i don't usually buy or play that many BRs
but would you look at that plunderstorm doesn't have a traditional BP
rain cave
I just long for us to have a new era of "just play the fucking game at your own pace" instead of the do's/don'ts and whens being dictated by execs
rain cave
but would you look at that plunderstorm doesn't have a traditional BP
fairly traditional to me in effect
upper pasture
FOMO will never be gone from gaming.
rain cave
nothing can ever truly be eradicated, but we can try lmao
tepid fiber
I just long for us to have a new era of "just play the fucking game at your own ...
Okay but also there's a fundamental nature of live service MMOs that can't rely on that
upper pasture
there will always be limited time events it's literally a selling point of games to create X event so people want to buy/play your game ASAP
rain cave
things can change over time sure, but I dislike the locking of content to specific times
even if you enter and experience an aftermatch version of it, it's still there
tepid fiber
In a live service MMO you're going to see limited events, stuff is going to change, there are going to be different seasonal rewards, etc
Otherwise it gets stagnant
rain cave
doesn't have to be that way
just keep the seasonal rewards active
make a vendor sell them for a currency that's hard to get
tepid fiber
Okay, change the game industry and the culture that follows it. Revolutionize the gaming sphere
rain cave
just like how you can get the classic elite pvp tmog with high ranks and currency
do the same for old pvp seasons
I'm just frustrated that I'm not feeling passion to play the games I want to
deep pawn
In a live service MMO you're going to see limited events, stuff is going to chan...
ff14 got pvp with slightly different abilities right, this isn't
at least in ff14 you're still playing the jobs
if this is the same team that made that other BR, I can tell why it's no longer online. 😄
upper pasture
spellbreak was great wdym
rain cave
I'm sorry if I come off as annoying, I do really thing my whle issue stems from just not finding desire to play WoW as much
I'm always keeping up with it, getting hyped about updates and expansions, but then actually playing them I get burned out super quick because there's just so much bloat
and it feels punishing to just play at times
I can't just hop on and do some casual profession stuff, because I've been away for a bit too long and now I'm behind and there's a whole new set of ingredients and recipes that I have to do 2 hours of questing on that toon and rep + currency grinding to get
like man I just wanna pick flowers
and make some gold
and it can be really demoralizing logging in after a while and just being slapped in the face with 50 things that I have no idea what they are
deep pawn
I do think after the first patch they should have just given 80% of the profession knowledge for free
Work Orders great, actual profession grinding was a big meh
I could do all of TWW without knowledge and be quite content
rain cave
Work orders are a great mechanic that has been severely underutilized and not embraced
I love the idea of profession specs as well
but yeah work orders are a tragedy
trading post "do 10 work orders" bro there isn't even 10 orders total on there
and they're all asking me to supply 10k gold mats for 200g
upper pasture
they know this and that's why to fix that probelm in TWW they are adding those npc work orders that will be specific to you.
you can always just request WQs from an alt too. i do wish the WO system is fixed with the NPC stuff tho
deep pawn
The problem is Raiders whined that "You can just craft bis, the content is meaningless"
eff that, let the best crafted gear match max ilvl
you still have to farm the crests and materials
upper pasture
i think 2 crafted pieces is a pretty good balance tbf
you shouldn't be able to just craft all your BiS items
deep pawn
it feels bad when your bis is 3-6 ilvls below other slots
deep pawn
you shouldn't be able to just craft all your BiS items
you realize how long and how many crests that takes right? You can't do that til the end of the season regardless
upper pasture
but that's not stopping you from 99% of the content WoW has
deep pawn
Let people turn crests into gear rather than deal with loot r ng
It's no more engaging to craft a piece of gear than to get a piece of hero loot from a 17 and dump a ton of crests into it
especially when most loot is a means to an end
upper pasture
you realize how long and how many crests that takes right? You can't do that til...
it would take "hardcore" players like 2 days and then be fully BiS out. it would be terrible for the game
deep pawn
they do that right now, but right now requires more loot luck in dungeons and more crests
they can still do it in 2 days.
upper pasture
wow they play the game? crazy
i think most of WoW's problems stem from players who "need" to be the best or else it's all meaningless. just play the game enjoy it. if not maybe you should rethink about the game you're playing
deep pawn
wow, grinding trivial 17s to catch someone up to do the content they want to do, such playing
upper pasture
if you don't want to do that content then don't do it?
deep pawn
that's the number one high end complaint right now outside of aug, "it takes too many crests to catch an alt up"
upper pasture
alt gearing is different than mains, it should be easier to gear an alt. the discount on flystones should also be applied to crests too.
but at the same time it isn't all that hard to gear nowadays when looking in the past
remember when you could only run heroic dungeons for BiS and if you didn't get it well....better luck tomorrow?
or doing all that content and losing every roll or someone ninja looting it and being stuck with a big ol' goose egg?
can WoW be improved upon? sure. but it's a far cry from where we started.
to be honest seasonal crest caps should be removed after the race is over
that's one thing i'm fine with being gone. if someone wants to run a bunch of keys to grind out their upgrades let them but it shouldn't be doable in the race scene
subtle oar
it would take "hardcore" players like 2 days and then be fully BiS out. it would...
But why punish the average player because the top 1% do degenerate shit?
tepid fiber
remember when you could only run heroic dungeons for BiS and if you didn't get i...
This. THIS. It's so much easier to gear now, it's insane
glad niche
Anyone happen to know how I get the pepe once Ive gotten the renown level?
upper pasture
Should just be on your account I think or visit the guy in the inn in VD possibly
glad niche
neither :c
im checking the TP chest cause that rank also has TP coins
so MAYBE they put pepe in there
nope. just coins
upper pasture
Did you talk to the guy in the roasted ram or whatever the inn is called?
Oh neither got it huh
dusk coral
i feel like it takes a little to see them. i had to search in my stuff at one point just to find the rewards ive gotten so far lol
glad niche
i feel like it takes a little to see them. i had to search in my stuff at one po...
did you get to 24? Was pepe mailed to you or just in your toys or?
glad niche
Did you talk to the guy in the roasted ram or whatever the inn is called?
yeah, he shows my updated rank and everything, not even the tolltip for the pepe hat says how to get it, the rank 10 mount popped on my screen telling me I had it in mount collection
for pepe, I got the pop up for the rank in plunderstorm but ive seen nothing else
Trying not to let my irritation override me here, just worked my ass off for these stupid pixels and cant find anything in regards to where it is or why its taking so long to show up
makes me not wanna finish the renown if theres some sort of internal issue with rewards
dusk coral
did you get to 24? Was pepe mailed to you or just in your toys or?
i haven't gotten to 24 but my pet was just in my logs. i had to search for said pet to even show up but i have hundreds of pets so easy for me to miss it without searching and same with transmogs. try searching in your mount collection or give it a little bit. it may not show up right away.
glad niche
Was about an hour ago I hit the rank. I keep checking toys for the item name but its not there, not even as a grey'd out name
Now Spamming my own pepe to see if it was somehow auto consumed/used
silent urchin
most feats of strength are
glad niche
A lot of stuff from this is hidden retail side. you cant view the outfit set in retail until youve obtained the first piece. Cant see the mounts or pets at all until unlocked. Afterwards its just a question of if you recieve them properly or not.
upper pasture
Most of those issues are probably related to how encrypt the whole patch was. At least I’d suspect so
glad niche
I hope so. trying to be patient and hope its fixed
molten niche
I guess my addson make it visible then
what addon is that
ionic terrace
10.2.6 ptr on the bnet launcher now
warm topaz
next week PTR!
molten niche
next week PTR!
actually its on the launcher right now
warm topaz
I mean build
deep pawn
twisted, you realy make me look sane, lol
and we knew the 10.2.6 ptr was coming for s4 testing for weeks now
silent urchin
oh boy I can't wait to preview the changes to holy priest
vernal juniper
PTR monday imho
ember blaze
wheres alpha 
tepid fiber
Assisting the Power Rangers
warm topaz
wheres alpha <:REE:1172591099764813956>
alpha is the friends we made along the way
obtuse vine
Twitter
deep pawn
I'd love both 10.2.7 and s4 ptr testing next week
With their schedule I just don't know how they get away with not having s4 testing, 10.2.7 ptr, and the start of alpha all overlap
The tweet has me hoping that timerunning just isn't a foot race
ancient jasper
I'm curious how they'd do Dynamic Ground Mounts
signal bone
my guess is that they'll be faster and offer more combat options than flying
not faster than flying*
I'm hopeing they lean into different abilities for different types of mounts like they did for the stormstrider
pulsar minnow
It’d be sick if they gave frog mounts a super jump, gronnlings maybe a climbing ability, etc..
deep pawn
I'm gonna guess the dk mount stays standard
glad niche
It’d be sick if they gave frog mounts a super jump, gronnlings maybe a climbing ...
I like these ideas, the dynamic flight is great ofc, but its basically their version of the Gw2 flight. They could make other dynamic abilities for ground mounts. theres technically already dynamic water mounts since we have the water walking mounts/equipment, and under water mounts
upper pasture
the thing is why do we need dynamic ground mounts if they are giving us flight again early like in DF? of course other that "it's fun"
warm topaz
i think "underwater riding" is pretty like, useless lol
tepid fiber
Spoken like someone who hasn't had to travel much underwater 
glad niche
the thing is why do we need dynamic ground mounts if they are giving us flight a...
well, it could be along the lines of the water raft picture taking or rock climbing
glad niche
i mean, if they make an underwater expansion
there is one! well kinda, a zone in cata
it was very hated
still is!
I like goin there cause it empty
deep pawn
Phew, June 28th for Dawntrail. I should have at least a month before prepatch and 2-3 months before TWW to enjoy
glad niche
i actually love vashjir
same same
glad niche
Phew, June 28th for Dawntrail. I should have at least a month before prepatch an...
ooo so soon!
deep pawn
He said they were aiming for early summer and they weren't kidding
They actually delayed a week because of the Elden Ring DLC
At least we know there's no way TWW releases that early lol
glad niche
He said they were aiming for early summer and they weren't kidding
yeah thats usually the case with god ole yoshiP
I just allow myself to forget such .. statements? so I dont get grumpus if they have to extend
deep pawn
"We don't want to make players choose between both games"
glad niche
he said that at some point?
deep pawn
Or so reddit says. That's paraphrasing but they did delay a week to let people play Elden Ring
glad niche
Tru
EW was also delayed cause yoshi felt they could do better fine tuning it
the 16 cross over apparently starts 4/2
glad niche
lmao I called it, recolors of plunderstorm current gear
Not that its a bad thing (to me) mind you.
With THAT MANY seperated rewards, they were bound to have recolors
molten niche
ok ur point?
glad niche
Good conversation contribution there
molten niche
i mean did u ever think they are adding the recolors to the travelers log cuz some ppl dont wanna play plunderstorm? and why give them the original colored ones if they didnt earn it?
glad niche
I never said otherwise iirc. I figured for multiple reasons they would reuse the outfit. I just didn't figure the recolors would already be in the files.
silent urchin
yeah, end match pvp kills are worth a lot
can be a few hundred each
hiding may get you more wins, but less renown
tight wagon
is the mount that you get at renow 40 able to dragonriding?
apparently yes
deep pawn
the rewards say it too
warm topaz
we haven't commented on this graph, right?
very interesting
and some people say that WoW is dead lmao
tepid fiber
Gamers love their factless hyperbole
thin warren
well, it's not dead
dense plover
crazy that shadowlands did better than dragonflight
dragonflight is definitely better
thin warren
but it's also not better than 8 years ago
upper pasture
yes, very squiggly line
thin warren
squiggly sounds cute
upper pasture
at the end of the day, game still gets regular updates and weekly maintance of course it's not dead
warm topaz
crazy that shadowlands did better than dragonflight
it makes a lot of sense actually, the lock down
upper pasture
anyone who claims it is is well....delulu
i'd like to point out that this chart is early DF
dense plover
yeah that parts the neat one
they actually grew over time
and its doing better now than at launch
warm topaz
the estimated number is around 7.5 million
pulsar minnow
the dev team has been killing it lately, hopefully they keep it up
warm topaz
Twitter
thin warren
something with panda's!
deep pawn
I swear to all that is holy it best not be some sort of mount or vehicle combat haha
ember blaze
crazy that shadowlands did better than dragonflight
after all the controversies, and awful expansion overall, why would a lot of those people bother to return
ember blaze
I swear to all that is holy it best not be some sort of mount or vehicle combat ...
i mean... if the tech is better why not
that stupid line u have to awkwardly aim for current vehicles and stuff 
deep pawn
I just hope it's pve that features our characters and abilities
I'm a little nervous it's going to be another out of game thing like Plunderstorm but just PvE
Could explain why plunder is supposed to be over before it starts so you don't have two out of game events at once.
thin warren
actually, i won't mind, so it's not added on the pile of "you should do this in WoW"-stuff maybe
deep pawn
For me I want patches to add to things inside the game, not be separate things. It's a thing that's hit and miss for hearthstone even
upper pasture
i doubt it will be another plunderstorm tbh. the huge difference here is they only teased what plunderstorm was with a logo because they knew how different it was and how the community would react to it.
pandamoniun sure we only have the name for now but soon we will get more info. they aren't keeping it as closely to the chest like the "secret patch" was
deep pawn
It's the crazy and explosive that worries me
upper pasture
what worries me is it seems like no matter what there will always be the people that hate it no matter what. they are games. you enjoy them or you don't. you aren't forced to play these things, you just choose to.
deep pawn
It might be funny if it's just SoO time walking but every boss has iron stars
tropic trail
i think there's gonna be a pretty big difference between 10.2.6 and 10.2.7
the meta achievements aside, the only thing added in 10.2.6 was plunderstorm
if u don't like that, there's not much for you to do
upper pasture
i mean were getting S4 "soon"
tropic trail
with 10.2.7 we atleast know there's other stuff included alongside timerunning
deep pawn
Finally troll heritage!
warm topaz
what worries me is it seems like no matter what there will always be the people ...
most people who spread hate about the game don't even play it.
upper pasture
most people who spread hate here have a sub so whats your point?
warm topaz
there is another part that does and they have a toxic relationship with the game.
they hate it but they keep playing it
it's important to differentiate between spreading hate and criticizing
uncut vault
crazy that shadowlands did better than dragonflight
I think it helps that at this point, folks were still on the "a-team b-team" conspiracy, and the idea that WoW had a one good one bad cycle for xpacs
Shadowlands very much broke that, and broke the idea that you could just be won back in a year or two if the xpac isnt to your taste
instead it compounded on the issues of BfA
deep pawn
I truly did believe that for a while cause I refused to believe the same team that did MoP did WoD haha
upper pasture
it's important to differentiate between spreading hate and criticizing
when you're saying things like "this is just bad 10.2.6 sucks" that's hating that's definitely not criticizing.
warm topaz
when you're saying things like "this is just bad 10.2.6 sucks" that's hating tha...
yeyeye
but for example @deep pawn doesn't like the event and he said why
that is completly fine
upper pasture
people not liking the event is fine too, it's a BR of course it's not everyone's cup of tea.
warm topaz
ofc
deep pawn
I think I'd be a lot more palatable of it if it was its own launched client and they treated it as a proper spinoff and made the crossover event much shorter
upper pasture
honestly i hope it gets a more permanent rotation into the game.
deep pawn
Only if it wasn't patched in lieu of retail content
It'd truly be best as it's own game coded separately from WoW
upper pasture
if it became more like compstomp would be cool. every 2.5 months get to play a week of it
deep pawn
If it was coded separately they could fix some of the hit detection issues I bet
upper pasture
the thing is we didn't get it "in lieu of" retail content. we're still getting retail stuff. this is just extra without this we would have nothing for a few weeks/month
deep pawn
You ever get plunder stuck in a rock?
upper pasture
rng gonna rng.
deep pawn
I do see this as in lieu of actual retail content. We're looking at 18 weeks of no story or retail content between 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 which they said they were trying to avoid.
Perhaps they should have been clearer that updates won't always impact the base game beyond cosmetics
upper pasture
18 weeks from the start of 10.2.5?
you do know that not everyone does all the content from the rip right?
upper pasture
you are basing this off of speculation that this 10.2.6 event will last 9 weeks
which it isn't going to?
we should be getting s4 before 10.2.7 anyhow
deep pawn
I don't see us getting 10.2.7 right as plunder ends, which interview have an initial 6 week period.
I'm personally hoping they don't hold s4 until after plunder ends
upper pasture
i doubt they will, they needed to test somethings which is happening now(?) and prolly i'd guess 2-3 weeks until season 4. no way it will be held until plunder ends. atleast not in my mind.
deep pawn
I do realize I'm in a small minority that absolutely hates the dungeon pool this season
warm topaz
I do realize I'm in a small minority that absolutely hates the dungeon pool this...
i'm not a fan neither
got the mount
and just it
upper pasture
i'm not happy with it either but as a "fated" season it makes sense to make it all the DF dungeons.
oh this season. yeah if i could never see EB again that would be great
deep pawn
By most metrics s3 is the most successful m+ season since corruption gear
deep pawn
I don't know if it's the classes or the dungeons, but I'll be sad if it's just the dungeons. I want less legacy
upper pasture
i think the whole leggo helps keep people going into raid week after week too. that certainly helps numbers
deep pawn
So, my dream tomorrow on the schedule is an in dev article and the remaining hero talent trees
I'm still betting on April 2-3 for Alpha
warm topaz
Twitter
deep pawn
We're at most 6 months away from expansion launch, and possibly just 4 months until warbands go live
warm topaz
it seems SoD P3 info is coming this week too
deep pawn
I'm probably thinking the warband changes are bigger than they truly are at this point
It's just expanded BoA but I still want it to launch smoothly
rose escarp
Would still be cool as hell to have your Warband-alts with you in Follower Dungeons and such 😁
But yeah, I hope it works out as smooth as it was told 🤞🏼
uncut vault
I truly did believe that for a while cause I refused to believe the same team th...
In fairness, there were in part different sections of the team working on different parts, but that was more to do with patch content vs ideation for the next xpac rather than as trictly different team
like, they've openly said they essentially sacrificed WoD for the sake of Legion
that the time was better spent training their new influx of staff on a cohesive future project rather than fixing the issues of a team with a different scope
glad niche
is the mount that you get at renow 40 able to dragonriding?
yes
Idk if someone managed to answer that already, sorry for the ping if so. I didnt skim all the messages between your ask and the end of them here
I hit 40 yesterday so i can tangibly confirm it
warm topaz
thank you so much anyways ☺️
deep pawn
I wonder if the parrot has the same skills as the dragons
I know the gryphon has its own abilities
I hope they don't get too adventurous with other types of mounts to where there's a meta of which one is just easiest and fastest
glad niche
I can check right now
just gatta find the dumb pidgeon
Whirling Surge
its normal DF
upper pasture
Prepatch is gonna be great just running alts through all the old dungeons and raids for mogs lol
deep pawn
They best make BfA fully soloable haha
upper pasture
Probably when DF is the main leveling 1-70 it will be
warm topaz
wonder if Pandamonium is going to be evergreen
deep pawn
Hell they still haven't even fully made legion soloable?
warm topaz
Hell they still haven't even fully made legion soloable?
they did yeah
upper pasture
What can’t you solo in legion?
warm topaz
Eonar is a bit tough
deep pawn
I know you can technically do Eonar if you have the movement speed, but it's miserable
warm topaz
but the rest is almost oneshot
deep pawn
In BfA ghuun can't be soloed unless you bug out the fight perfectly
Haven't tried the other raids
warm topaz
you can't solo Jaina neither
glad niche
Eonar is a bit tough
I was in there recently... it ... I dont HAVE to have those shoulders for my zandalari shammy Qwq
deep pawn
I know objectively soloing old raids is a low priority thing
If we see the 11 hero trees next week I'll feel very good about imminent alpha
Odd they still haven't turned on the sign up button
upper pasture
They didn’t? Could’ve swore I signed up
silent urchin
there's a few not so bad strategies for eonar now
glad niche
I just borrow a speedy boi and drag em with me
did you know the dps in valdraken are free? You can just take them
deep pawn
I don't recall a TWW testing sign up. There is for cata classic and they just gave that to everyone I think
They may do it differently because of TWW buy in beta
upper pasture
did you know the dps in valdraken are free? You can just take them
Rocks are also free too, see a pile of rocks? Just take one. No one will stop you
glad niche
Rocks are also free too, see a pile of rocks? Just take one. No one will stop yo...
Dont tell people how I live my life
round smooth rock make smooth brain make happy chemical
Who was it that was all for the pirate theme of plunderstorm
Whomever they are, I recommend Alestorm for their music playlist
deep pawn
Shoot, go for the campy original from Latvia's 2008 Eurovision entry
glad niche
If one REALLY wants to feel the insanity sink in while you grind- go for that limewire diddy on 10 hour repeat
I owe my success in finishing this grind to FFXIV Mentor Roulette Achievements.
I already used up my sanity stores YEARS ago
subtle oar
Whomever they are, I recommend Alestorm for their music playlist
Ive seen them live twice
Both times they came on stage piss drunk.
Loved it
deep pawn
Alestorm is most known for their cover of Pirates of the Seas' 2008 song "Wolves of the Sea"
It started as a comedy Eurovision entry
glad niche
Both times they came on stage piss drunk.
That's amazing xD
subtle oar
Alestorm is the diggy diggy hole people right?
Alestorm are a Scottish Pirate metal band
upper pasture
I hope for week 1 of plunderstorm blizzard gives us stats. Like how many matches how many pirates launched how much plunder was collected and most preferred offenses/defensives/items
deep pawn
I hope they also tell us how many praised the Stormwall as a joke
upper pasture
oh true, how many people died to storm would be a good stat lol
how many of that elite pile of gold dude were killed and such forth.
glad niche
I hope they also tell us how many praised the Stormwall as a joke
I made so many contributions to our Lord and Savior the Stormwall
deep pawn
people have gotten more toxic in plunder lately
upper pasture
i'd say going into the storm to deny people kills and plunder is more toxic then pvp in a pvp mode. you do know by denying them the plunder you are making them play the game longer too right?
deep pawn
i'd say going into the storm to deny people kills and plunder is more toxic then...
I meant more like attacking at level 1 for no real reason cause wasting time that early means neither of you wins
hell, there's a chance neither of you even finish the orders
upper pasture
i mean, the point still stands it's pvp. if yall drop at the same location that person that's pressing the fight is confident on killing you without any abilities and is willing to take the risk
deep pawn
if they're that aggressive I'm just gonna take the l, leave and try again
almost free at least.
Any care I had for the gamemode definitely ended after I got the FoS, lol
vernal juniper
ptr day imho
tulip sun
I only kill at lvl 1 if the people land on me when falling or attack me first
glad niche
I only kill at lvl 1 if the people land on me when falling or attack me first
I finished already but same
Like if they landed smack beside me, seemed stunned then scooted off, id ignore em
I ended up killing 7 people through all my grind and every one of them ran upo to me with intent to fight at level 1 or 2. I'd already made a habit of landing on an elite in the north/northeast of the map tho, which always seemd to give a decent ability. ... short version is those are the only people I actually killed. I sniped 1 person at 1/3rd health right after they killed someone else. Felt bad but its a BR. We're never truely safe in the fields of war
vernal juniper
just land if you are losing 30+sec in a fight it is not even worth to continue, just leave
Also if you leave you should lose mmr so games should me easier (not confirmed)
glad niche
Depends on how you plan to play really.
Like if you want to have a chance at winning, land faster, you wanna have a jump on exp gain.
If you wanna survive specifically to get objective and leave, watch where others are heading and landing in order to avoid early pvp.
warm topaz
just got renown 40!
tepid fiber
Grats!
glad niche
just got renown 40!
Grats! You are a free birb once again!
warm topaz
i'll play it with less preasure now
warm topaz
S4 PTR tomorrow
SoD P3 info today and coming April 4
what is this?
Cataclysm prepatch?
deep pawn
Rip, no hero talents or 10.2.7 news
So no alpha next week, but that has to be very soon
deep pawn
S4 was the one that had to start testing ASAP since it comes before 10.2.7
But we know alpha comes before s4
thin warren
deep pawn
They gave themselves a very very tight schedule. Oh bother.
deep pawn
Hey, they made the roadmap, not us haha
ionic terrace
Cataclysm prepatch?
nah it's part of wrath still, it was in patch 3.3.5 back in actual wrath
thin warren
other expansions we would be looking at nothing at all untill prepatch...
warm topaz
other expansions we would be looking at nothing at all untill prepatch...
MoP LMAO
deep pawn
The troll and gnome events are something I regret missing a ton, gonna do them this time.
thin warren
you mean the heritagequestlines?
deep pawn
No, the pre Cata stuff
thin warren
doesn't ring a bell, do you know how long ago Cata was
deep pawn
Yeah, like 14 years ago
I was unsubscribed at the time. I've done the rest since
I still wish the theramore tabard wasn't one character only
MoP was theramore, WoD was blasted lands and ubrs, legion was the invasions, BfA was the war of the thorns, SL was Icecrown, and DF was elemental invasions.
warm topaz
i remember the Legion one so well
you could "bug"/reset the event in Orgrimmar
i lvl my monk doing that
thin warren
to bad you didn't get banned for abusing bugs
thin warren
hmmm
warm topaz
i love what they are doing this time
is not a new raid + new pvp event
DUAL SPEC LOL
deep pawn
eh?
upper pasture
SoD is getting dual spec in P3 that’s huge
deep pawn
oh, they hid that in the video eh?
upper pasture
They didn’t hide it they literally covered it in one of the panels
deep pawn
It wasn't in the news post, I wish they'd have an article prepped to summarize the video rather than rely on wowhead to do it
Not everyone wants to watch stuff
upper pasture
sigh okay sure
deep pawn
I get why not when wowhead summarizes fro them. 😛
silent urchin
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24078318/season-of-discovery-phase-3-goes-live-april-4 they do have an article that went live at the same time
dunno why it doesn't mention dual spec
upper pasture
guess i should finish plunderstorm so i can get back on SoD lol
ember blaze
I need to grind out plunderstorm
warm topaz
im so excited to see what Xal'Atath is doing in P3
thin warren
oh, she will appear in SoD?
warm topaz
she is in SoD since P1
well not directly
is not called Xal'Atath
just a voidy High Elf
my english is not good enough to explain that so i send the link haha
the article is only P1 but she is in P2 too
thin warren
😄 haha
deep pawn
imagine if Knaifu is a legendary for the final phase
silent urchin
I'm gonna be really annoyed if any of it has any relevance to retail
I swear I've seen a bunch of those recolours of T2 before
ahhh they've been NPC models
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Orik_Trueheart https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=916/blessed-battlegear-of-undead-slaying here's the two paladin ones at least
upper pasture
Maybe timerunning rewards?
silent urchin
Could be. A lot have been NPC only or no longer obtainable, according to comments
although some were restored via Deios random transmog items, and others have always been obtainable
upper pasture
I hope SoD carries into TBC. It’s been fun so far
warm topaz
i don't think people would like that tbh
upper pasture
the thing is i think into TBC would be great but anything further would then just start the old classic thing again but who knows
warm topaz
dragonraces archievements are not acc wide?
upper pasture
the meta parts are but the singular races are not
warm topaz
ToS is Tomb of Sargeras?
upper pasture
Trial of style. lol
warm topaz
oh AHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH
warm topaz
im so bad at that
like, combining mogs
i love my hunter mog tho is the only mog im proud of
upper pasture
yeah, there's a list online you can just premake sets before the event but i usually just make them on the fly lol
upper pasture
das pretty good, usually i like simple mogs too
warm topaz
yeah same
upper pasture
new one i threw together for "profession fashion" or whatever it was called. i also have the diablo bag on my back
upper pasture
there are powerups you can get that will increase it. if you find a group it shouldn't take too long.
warm topaz
there are powerups you can get that will increase it. if you find a group it sho...
cool
i'll wait till world quest week to lvl Niffen one
upper pasture
and don't forget to go buy the powerup toos as your rep increases. they are just outside the area
upper pasture
okay and? this was revealed months ago?
molten niche
? what that was annouced when the game was annouced when u were able to preorder? i dont see the issue here? ive always gotten into beta since wod but only maybe play an hr or 2 cuz i dont wanna ruin the content
glass flicker
? what that was annouced when the game was annouced when u were able to preorder...
Shh. I don't want to hear it from you.
tepid fiber
This is very old news, was announced when the preorder became available
glass flicker
This is very old news, was announced when the preorder became available
Yeah, I've just lived under a rock, named Mountain.
tepid fiber
Besides, this helps make the game more stable on full official release
More bug testing and time for fixes
glass flicker
That's true. I guess y'all US players aren't beta testing for us EU players, this time.
upper pasture
yup, and the important weeklies and stuff are all locked until full release anyhow
tepid fiber
Basically gonna be your typical leveling zone availability experience really
silent urchin
I for one am looking forward to all the posts from people who hit 80 within 10 hours of early access then complain about nothing to do
upper pasture
I for one am looking forward to all the posts from people who hit 80 within 10 h...
somethings will never change tho
glass flicker
Now, if only they had every word in the script replaced with "placeholder" that'd be hilarious.
molten niche
I for one am looking forward to all the posts from people who hit 80 within 10 h...
yea i mean if im off during the early testing just lvl as many toons a si can to max lol
molten niche
it shouldnt take long after the 1st toon is max and completeed story cuz u can do wqs and what not way faster than questing
glass flicker
My body is 80% get a load of this frickin guy
Which one of us?
upper pasture
i just wanna test the devles system
molten niche
i just wanna test the devles system
yea i hope they are good and actually let u get up to heroic raid gear like they said and if they actually are soloable as a healer
glass flicker
I just wanna see how Shado-Pan Windwalker plays. Flurry Strikes looks like a fun mechanic, but it also looks weird.
"Build a stack every time you deal your max health in damage, consume all stacks by spending 400 Energy"
Looks interesting, if a little complicated. You'd have to keep track of a lot more.
molten niche
but how high are the stacks going to get before u spend 400 energy thats the real question
glass flicker
but how high are the stacks going to get before u spend 400 energy thats the rea...
You can build 10 stacks max, apparently.
molten niche
didnt look at the monk tree is the flurry stack thing an ability or just a passive thing that procs when u spend the 400 energy?
glass flicker
It's a passive.
molten niche
yea i dont see it then
glass flicker
molten niche
i see yalls main stat being crit and vers to be abel to reach the 10 stacks before the 400 energy being spent
glass flicker
Gotta deal your own max HP in damage, so that's kind of a lot.
molten niche
especially for a tank
molten niche
i hear we will be doing legion numbers again before another squish
glass flicker
You gotta do your max HP in damage ten times to reach ten stacks.
molten niche
before 400 energy is being spent so yea
upper pasture
and? is this gonna count in AoE?
are you limited to one stack per instance of damage?
molten niche
yea but single target i dont see u hitting the 10 stacks
glass flicker
In AoE, it'll be massive. But ST will kinda suck.
glass flicker
are you limited to one stack per instance of damage?
I don't know yet.
molten niche
Your critical strikes deal an additional 30% damage.
Your Mastery’s effect is increased by 25%.
molten niche
yea so crit and vers will be yalls main stats again
kinda salty monk has 2 specs that share the same stats whne all the other classes dont lol.
glass flicker
You know what I would want? Imagine if Flurry Strikes just made FoF cast faster.
molten niche
wish they made it to where all specs stacked the same stats per class so u would only have ot change out trinkets and weapon or atleast let us keep our other gear in bank and swap gear sets from bank so it doesnt take up bag space
dense plover
its a terribly boring talent tree
shado pan monk is lame af for brewmaster
its just truly dull
upper pasture
seems like it's just like "here have some more AoE"
dense plover
"hey, all of your abilities deal slightly more dmg and/or have AoE"
molten niche
the only tree i have hated for paladin is the holy/prot tree that was bad
silent urchin
aoe every 400 energy feels awkward as hell to control. I'm sure top players will be able to get that to proc during damage windows but for the average player it sounds awful
dense plover
not just hard to control
a pain in the ass for brew that doesnt have a good way to get energy
and already feels energy starved during burst windows
molten niche
hell on paladin if u dont have holy power ur just standing there auto attacking if wings arent up
silent urchin
I'm kinda surprised we aren't getting the remaining previews this week
molten niche
they gotta come out before alpha. thats what they want atleast
silent urchin
there's 11 more (12 if the oracle redo counts)
upper pasture
i mean, they don't "have" to but it would be nice. it's not the first time we've have alpha without the full lineup ready
silent urchin
they said they were going to, it would be pretty surprising for them not to follow through on that
molten niche
but they said they want all th ehero talents out before alpha. it would be the best bet for the best feedback and be able to change things way in advance
silent urchin
I don't necessarily expect them to all be implemented fully for alpha
molten niche
how are alpha inviters going to work? is it gonna be normal or are they gonna invite all the beta testers to alpha since technically the beta now is for everyone if they get the best edition of the game?
silent urchin
I imagine similar. I expect beta, or at least the purchased beta portion, to be much shorter than previously, though
upper pasture
who knows. but I doubt everyone who bought the epic edition is getting into the alpha. it's prolly F&F/CCs then prolly beta players with good history and feedback from the past
molten niche
idk ive always been in beta since wod started. would be nice to get into alpha
upper pasture
you've already stated you only play a few hours of beta why would you want to be in the alpha? seems like a wasted invite if you aren't going to test things
molten niche
cuz its beta but if its alpha its different
upper pasture
yeah, even less than beta typically
glass flicker
and already feels energy starved during burst windows
See, that's why I recommended an alternative. Just make Combo Strikes decrease GCDs by 0.2 seconds per stack up to 3, make Flurry Strikes instead do a short burst of Fists of Fury or throw a Keg Smash every 200 Energy you spend, and make Reverberating Strikes apply Eye of the Tiger.
Make Keg Smash and FoF do increased damage to targets with Eye of the Tiger.
Like 20-30%
ember blaze
remove energy from monks problem solved
glass flicker
That works.
ember blaze
windwalker should get reworked into a spec that chains/combos attacks 
not some shitty combo point/energy spec cause the devs had no creativity at the time.
glass flicker
Yes. That's why I proposed the "randomly casts FoF every so attacks or so chi spent or so energy spent"
They can supposedly punch faster than the eye can see.
Ok, lemme see that.
ember blaze
they could all use a visual pass imo
maybe not mistweaver
like whirling death punch or whatever it's called. 
isnt the animation spinning crane kick one? or am i crazy
glass flicker
It's not. It's the Feint animation with a bunch of whirly hands.
But, see.
I have no idea why it's backwards in this random screenshot I found on Google.
Windwalkers used to have two screen flash effects.
Now they only have the Blackout Kick one.
So why not add the Tiger One back in a new way? Maybe, have a chance on every ability to cast a different one that's not currently on cooldown.
Show that effect when it happens.
Like, for example, you could do Strike of the Windlord and the proc also decides to do a free Spinning Crane Kick.
deep pawn
it was back when WW was about balancing light and dark chi more
glass flicker
it was back when WW was about balancing light and dark chi more
Tigereye Brew was awesome. 60% damage, just take it.
I can't imagine the sort of headwind live WW would make with Tigereye Brew in its rotation, un-nerfed.
And I like Combo Strikes as a mastery, but it should get a 5% bonus from every other stat, honestly. To make it stand out as what you have to keep up.
There is no downside to doing two Tiger Palms in a row for Chi.
ember blaze
It's not. It's the Feint animation with a bunch of whirly hands.
what it should look like
glass flicker
SHORYUKEN
deep pawn
I'm not sure what WW can do without stealing ideas from FF14's monk at this point haha
glass flicker
Windwalkers should be all about ability interactions. Like how Tiger Palm has a chance to make Blackout Kick free.
glass flicker
I'm not sure what WW can do without stealing ideas from FF14's monk at this poin...
Yeah. I like how Bootshine goes into True Strike into the other, etc.
And Windwalker could pull it off too.
deep pawn
More like you do combos to store chi for a big finisher
glass flicker
Tiger Palm leads into Blackout Kick, into Rising Sun Kick, into Fists of Fury, into Strike of the Windlord.
deep pawn
Could also help some of WW's ability bloat
glass flicker
And make Strike of the Windlord super OP.
ember blaze
Windwalkers should be all about ability interactions. Like how Tiger Palm has a ...
or unlocking the ability to use whriling whatever
or aug having that stun ability that slams targets into the ground if theyre in the air
like can we get more cool interactions like that?
we dont need another energy/rogue combo point gameplay
or spam a useless filler till you finally get to cast something good.
glass flicker
Windwalkers also need to get rid of these meaningless passives.
Why is Windwalking, the passive the specialization is named after, only a 4% bonus? And why does it need two talent points?
BLIZZARD. WHAT THE HELL?
Imagine wasting a talent point for a 2% movement speed bonus.
Either increase it to 10% per point to make it worthwhile, or remove it entirely.
Rogues can have 160% move speed in stealth at all times. But monks can't move faster than 104%? Gtfo.
This is still the most egregious talent for me.
The entire spec is named after it, but nobody ever picks the passive.
warm topaz
maybe this is weird, but what excites me most about a new expansion is the soundtrack.
and unfortunately it is what is added last in the beta
hahaha
tight wagon
maybe this is weird, but what excites me most about a new expansion is the sound...
what excites me most is usualyl qol changes lol
warm topaz
cool
deep pawn
I don't think I've ever gotten a PvP illusion before
cosmic beacon
I’ve only got 4 
warm topaz
I don't think I've ever gotten a PvP illusion before
same lol
cosmic beacon
2100
warm topaz
SoD P3 on PTR already
warm topaz
wait PTR S4 is today right?
upper pasture
yes
tight wagon
oh it just links to this week lol
yeah 😢
warm topaz
oh it just links to this week lol
hahaahahahahaahha
deep pawn
I wonder what the promotion is, usually they aren't this late
silent urchin
The label in the app changed, although still a 10.2.0 build
not sure exactly when that happened
silent urchin
ah
warm topaz
last time we said that we waited till 5pm
that day was crazy
i think is the Twitch Prime one
ionic terrace
Build out
silent urchin
53877, so slightly older than the current live one
can always have different stuff tho
vernal juniper
potato servers download
warm topaz
ping system is so underrated
silent urchin
realms up
warm topaz
D:
tight wagon
ping system is so underrated
i really love the system use it a lot
warm topaz
@upper pasture
upper pasture
Meh?
warm topaz
you told me that there is something i can do to grind the cobalt rep faster right?
cosmic pine
wait so was this a new build?
upper pasture
You’ll get power ups that are straight rep, I also think if you go outside that area where the cobalt people are there is a talent tree of sorts
I think one of them boosts rep too, idk it was almost a year and half ago lol
ionic terrace
eh idk if they pushed the wrong build or what, it's all still s3
cobalt spoke
silent urchin
but no season splash screen, no new weekly event, etc
ionic terrace
i love new realms
tight wagon
oh i just saw you
ionic terrace
hai
silent urchin
I got an S4 keystone from lindormi but it's not quite right, rank 11, with only tyrannical and afflicted
upper pasture
Maybe they don’t have the fated stuff ready for testing but do have other things like M+. It is a ptr after all and not live
warm topaz
I think one of them boosts rep too, idk it was almost a year and half ago lol
really tough grind
so monotonous
but almost there
4/5
upper pasture
It was definitely worse when it took a group to do it well. Now I assume it’s just killing mobs mindlessly and hoping rep powers drop
upper pasture
Yeah, I just did the content as it was relevant so today I got the last achievement for the DF meta
dense plover
Fated raids will have specific time slots
Content probably won’t be enabled outside of those times
warm topaz
timerifts are doable solo?
upper pasture
Probably? The last boss scales to however many people engage it so depending on your skill/class you shouldn’t have a problem with it
tight wagon
omg
deep pawn
boo that pets aren't upgraded
gloomy tangle
The icon looks different
silent urchin
yeah it's a pulsing green effect around it
although once I got into azure span it seems to be on the feast rather than hunt?
dense plover
Ah - this was implied in what they said, nice to see the awakened world activity stuff working like we thought
tropic trail
two hunts spawned at once? (plus the big dig obviously)
silent urchin
got a 480 vet piece from the feast, not sure if that's a special awakened thing. Also some awakened crests, but again would expect that just in S4
upper pasture
kinda neat all content is seemingly relevant at the start of S4
deep pawn
nice if all events give lfr gear
upper pasture
hmm...just one week of M+ testing
deep pawn
that's better than s3
vernal juniper
deep pawn
WQs are lower than the quests
so between ALL the weeklies, you should be able to get a ton of veteran gear
unless the weekly events aren't awakened all the time
silent urchin
nothing special from a hunt, not convinced awakened activities were working
vet from weekly stuff is pretty standard
deep pawn
You don't get vet stuff from Zaralek, Dreamsurges, or soup right now.
You do from weekly time rifts which is an outlier
silent urchin
world boss did give a special box, said it had vet gear but was actually explorer
did give 15 drake crests, a bunch of gold and flightstones
vernal juniper
deep pawn
boo if they're nerfing my source of easy catch up trinkets
vernal juniper
deep pawn
RIP Holystrike
why can't both be veteran at once, it makes 0 sense Blizzard
interesting, it doesn't tell you file size anymore
silent urchin
vault track for raid is 2/4/6 awakened bosses
warm topaz
https://www.wowhead.com/es/blue-tracker/topic/us/dragonflight-season-4-ptr-development-notes-1814041
deep pawn
Dinar items scale all the way
Vendors are in Bronze Area
all items cost 2 bullion right now
oh, and there's cosmetics for bullion too
silent urchin
well at lesat that immediately dispells the rumours of a cap of 1
presumably it's a weekly increasing cap or something
upper pasture
oh that's huge!
could just be a PH tho
but i hope it's not. for all those who missed out on slimecat before
did you happen to find the scales of awakening on the vendor?
oh nvm it costs 2
deep pawn
I guess it'll be 2, 4, 6 from the quest and cap at 12
zealous sedge
What is the bullion?
upper pasture
i do like that we're getting a mog vendor for half the cost.
zealous sedge
I see, I didn’t play SL so I had to look up what a dinar was haha
silent urchin
I really hope people stop using fated and dinar as terms
zealous sedge
Yeah the guides for SL season 4 and the currencies are helpful but I wish blizz would reduce the amount of types of currencies. It gets confusing
deep pawn
that's not how the internet works, a term is picked and it sicks!
I mean we still call certain abilities fervant strikes
upper pasture
it will probably take more time
deep pawn
ooo, that's a bot
zealous sedge
Can you earn more than 3 bullion per character unlike the dinar system?
upper pasture
we don't know yet
zealous sedge
Is Jigglesworth a mount or pet?
deep pawn
mount
silent urchin
that ones Sr, which is the mount
zealous sedge
Oh I see
silent urchin
there's also a pet, just called Jiggles
deep pawn
okay, so anything not awakened drops explorer
awakened drops veteran
so you aren't doing all world content weekly
zealous sedge
Been reading, says the awakened raids are gonna be rotation instead of all active at once. Hopefully it’s easier to farm Fyrakk mount then haha
deep pawn
it will be until they all turn on
upper pasture
oh, awakened items are 1/12 upgradable. neat
deep pawn
I'm gonna guess that applies to the leggos too
silent urchin
Probably, although they'd start at 4/12 for 502
regular season stuff is still the same champion/hero/myth tracks
upper pasture
they need to make the cosmetic items BoA
deep pawn
No, I'm gonna assume it starts at 1/12 just like the rest
The legendaries should still be higher ilvl than other weapons
zealous sedge
So awakened track starts at a lower ilvl than heroic or mythic tracks but still gives you the ability to get to max ilvl?
silent urchin
It looks like it'll go to 528 as well, yes
zealous sedge
Nice okay
“The baseline Dawn of the Infinite will be more challenging and rewarding; however, it will not be included in the bi-weekly rotation.” Idk if this was talked about yet. Is the biweekly rotation in reference to affixes or are they hiding another 8 dungeons from us for the dungeon pool lol.
proper palm
aprils reward?
Another pet... 💀
upper pasture
“The baseline Dawn of the Infinite will be more challenging and rewarding; howev...
most likely affixes, since that's uhh...a bi weekly rotation that in S4 the mega dungeon wont be a part of
silent urchin
surely just weekly?
deep pawn
Maybe they're trying something new with the reduced dungeon pool
Watch some affixes being gone
upper pasture
prolly just referencing this
deep pawn
Biweekly rotation is in regards to something
It's with affixes for the keys or raid/world content will be swapping every 2 weeks
molten niche
how do u get the bullions?
deep pawn
Shark hat!
warm topaz
Twitter
subtle oar
So a random nobody tweeted out that BlizzCon is moving to Las Vegas this year, causing blizzcon to trend with like 25k tweets...
Jesus christ, so many people willing to believes stupid shit
upper pasture
lol, what that would make no sense.
harsh wedge
Did I somehow miss it?
silent urchin
It's been moved to the 28th on the blizz article itself
subtle oar
lol, what that would make no sense.
Exactly.
tropic trail
not sure if people realised this yet - the s4 awakened raid reward is a dragonriding mount
cosmic beacon
makes sense
the mounts model that it shares will be dragonriding going into tww
so they probably did it early for that specific mount
molten niche
the parrot from rank 39 in the plunderstorm is dragonriding to
deep pawn
they said it was an entirely new model too
I'm guessing toggling a mount between classic and dynamic flight swaps it between two entirely different models now
while it's mostly animation/skeleton differences
austere gazelle
Don't understand about mythic 10+ reward, there is still the same ilvl progression?
or the ilvl progression stop at +10 and +10 is the max reward now ?
( which seems weird )
upper pasture
0s are equal to what 10s were before, 10s are equal to 20s. 10s is the cap for rewards but you can always push higher
upper pasture
https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1773066551001825697
that was the orb chest yeah?
silent urchin
Yup, the slug with the multi hour timer and only one person can loot it
deep pawn
oh sweet, the weekly quest gives champ loot
this is the 3 groups of content
so my guess is each of those will reward veteran gear when they're awakened
upper pasture
gold 🙂
deep pawn
I'm gonna chalk it up to ptr bugs that the community feast awarded veteran gear on ptr but time rifts don't
I'll be quite happy if the vendors/quests that award veteran gear rotate weekly
the weekly gold is usually pretty good, like 1500
deep pawn
the empowered world boss should rotate too
warm topaz
almost there with the cobalt rep just need 3k more
deep pawn
grats
I need to buckle down and get aotc
I have the gear on my warrior just not the last 3 bosses
warm topaz
i got aotc the first two tiers
deep pawn
If they are only doing one week of m+ testing this might be coming really soon
molten niche
If they are only doing one week of m+ testing this might be coming really soon
where do u see the only 1 week of m+ testing?
tropic trail
so no seasonal affix huh
they got rid of seasonal affixes ages ago
ember blaze
they got rid of seasonal affixes ages ago
ya
deep pawn
So far we have one week of testing ending before Tuesday. They could do another week but I don't know if they need it
If no raid affix they don't even have to test that really
warm topaz
If they are only doing one week of m+ testing this might be coming really soon
i think is coming late April
when plunderstorm ends
deep pawn
i still hope sooner
thin warren
no sign yet of next patch?
deep pawn
no, we'll see an in dev post some week soon
it's only like 8 weeks away so has to be soon
vernal juniper
do we have any info about the t2 recolor?
I think it can be from 20th anniversary if we have no mor einfo
silent urchin
No info. The colours themselves aren't actually new, but were largely NPC only or otherwise unobtainable. There's not actually any items datamined, just that they're now set up so they could be attached to items in the future.
There's also a lot of weapon recolours that got the same
austere gazelle
Into the storm achivement for taivan is really stupid -_-'
warm topaz
i think is not that bad
im doing it too
the worst part is the RNG with the storms locations
but once there, if you find a group is so easy to reach 200
300*
warm topaz
is so much easier in group
austere gazelle
either way I think this meta achivement is setting a weird precedent for futur expack