beta-ptr-spoilers

[crystal pond]

Oh its a book? Nvm then
I was thinking that its like we have those site shorts but okay

[dense plover]

No - we will probably still have those

This is actual short stories

[crystal pond]

https://youtu.be/XbrZRxCSM50?feature=shared

Holy

Those zones are w i d e

I want to see how people will get all of those vision bugs and not loading zones

[warm topaz]

im so excited for TWW alpha/beta cycle

[crystal pond]

I wonder what this big shine crystal actually is if its not a sword

[thin warren]

it's a big shiny crystal!

[crystal pond]

This mechanic with different mobs depends on event will be so bugged

Spawns will be so broken

Have fun on beta who will get access to it

[pulsar minnow]

Seems to be the same iconography that’s on a lot of Naaru stuff

I think it’s related to some stuff about An’she and Elune

I think there was a short story in the folktales of Azeroth about it too

I really wonder if we’ll be able to go to the crystal or if it’ll just be apart of the skybox. Regardless it’s definitely gotta be part of future content patches for TWW

[tepid fiber]

Would be cool if the crystal radiated damage close to it, making it so flying too close can make you Icarus yourself

[thin warren]

i tought they said there would be problems with it or something, that it sometimes goes dark

iirc from Blizzcon

[pulsar minnow]

Yes. The zone has a cycle pattern

During the dark hour or whatever it’s called, mobs in the zone will be stronger, different challenges, world events, etc..

[thin warren]

yeh, just heared about it in that youtubevid

[warm topaz]

yeah, that will be so cool

i wonder how they will approach the pre-expansion event

[pulsar minnow]

They’ve seemed to tone it back more and more every year

[austere gazelle]

they are spreading it on several small patches :p

Starting next one ( pirate event, then Xal reveal then 11.0 )

[harsh mason]

But there is a separate prepatch

10.2.6, 10.2.7, pre-patch, 11.0

[austere gazelle]

prepatch is 11.0 without expansion access

[tepid fiber]

11.0.1 is the pre-patch

Expansion is 11.0.5

[austere gazelle]

yeah so it's still the 11.0++

[tepid fiber]

Prepatch and expansion are both "11.0"

Prepatch is 11.0.1, expansion is 11.0.5

[austere gazelle]

Whatever, you know what I meant, you're trying to see devil in the details, as usual

[thin warren]

i hope august for the prepatch

july-august

[harsh mason]

Yea, 11.0.1 is the prepatch

[warm topaz]

that is my guess too

August 30 like Legion?

[deep pawn]

The Expansion is going to be mid September based on them moving it up

So Early August is my guess right now

maybe late July

May for 10.2.7 and July for 11.0.1 would keep their 8 week cadence

I wouldn't hate an 8 week prepatch either

[warm topaz]

do you think whatever is coming in 10.2.6 will be evergreen?

like, build to last

[deep pawn]

it's outside of the Dragon Isles so hopefully?

[dull kraken]

what's PTR means guys?

[dense plover]

public test realm

theres currently no active PTR

[dull kraken]

owh okayy

[austere gazelle]

Anyone knows what are the " guilds update " mentionned in the prepatch ?

[upper pasture]

hopefully updated tabards tbh

[warm topaz]

they didn't say anything abt it

[upper pasture]

any maybe hopefully that cata system reworked so being in a guild means something again. would love to see guild perks come back in some form

[fast gate]

Yeah, they stop adding stuff to the guild perks... like a decade ago.. well, maybe not 10 years, but it feels like it has been that long... (tries to remember when WoD was)

[tepid fiber]

In November it will be 10 years

[timid meadow]

new easter mount I justa datamined

Potential Hearthstone anniversary helmet spoiler? Just found it.

WAit, wtf is this

(Cool if a Pride thing, just confused to be clear.)

Prolly Children's week update?

Butterfly kite.

I suspect a children's week update

Noble Garden

[tepid fiber]

Loving the overdue holiday updates already, I hope this is the case

[tepid fiber]

Now that has Noblegarden written all over it

[timid meadow]

Trial of style update? Dont know if this is a new model, but I dont recall it.

[tepid fiber]

Either Trial of Style or making transmog NPCs more visible to the less navigationally inclined

[timid meadow]

yea

[deep pawn]

a lot of this stuff was already datamined.

The rainbow stuff is more likely children's week

there's a whole masquerade outfit in the files too we're not sure what it's for

[silent urchin]

There is a new holiday coming in 10.2.7, might already be some stuff for that

[uncut lintel]

we are getting closer to a rainbow unicorn mount

or a rainbow mount

[rose escarp]

Whimsyshire in Azeroth confirmed

[crystal pond]

Its 20th anniversary for wow in this year?

[warm topaz]

yes

[tropic trail]

I get blizzard's reasoning for being hush about 10.2.6, but I'd really like it if they told us if there were any smaller things coming alongside the update (ie brawlers guild return, bfa timewalking, northrend dragonriding cup etc)

[rose escarp]

The whole point of the patch is being secretive and giving a surprise, I’m sure

[pulsar minnow]

If it adds tuskarr as an allied race it’ll be the best patch ever

[tepid fiber]

Where are my damn ogres

They've been taunting us with them since Vanilla and TBC

[pulsar minnow]

Real

[timid meadow]

Before they give us more allied races, they need to update our current races.

[warm topaz]

omg March is next week already

[pulsar minnow]

Didn’t they already update a lot of em?

[warm topaz]

i personally think that they need another update like they did in WoD

[pulsar minnow]

Idk ab the same scale of WoD’s rework

But like a texture overhaul and rework of some of the more.. struggling hairstyles sure

Like these hairstyles def need a retouch

[tepid fiber]

There are assets being used in the game now older than any of the current race models. I think touching them up first would be more fair

[ember blaze]

More body proportions like dracthyr

[timid meadow]

No. There is tons of lore updates, model update needs and more.

Some of the things fans have asked for, go all the way back to vanilla and have been ignored: see upright undead.

[pulsar minnow]

So… why exactly do these requests mean we can’t satisfy other requests players have had for years

They’re not mutually exclusive

[fast gate]

They did finally (after like 15 years) add flesh/skin to the elbow and knees of undead, so just another 15, and we'll get optional upright backs too

[subtle oar]

Cries in Pandaren

[deep pawn]

it has been about as long since the new models as the old ones lasted

Feels insane

[timid meadow]

Undead main here since vanilla - we have been asking for an option for upright undead since vanilla. If people want the curved back, good for them.

Give the players what they want - the option for upright undead.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/upright-forsaken-models-overdue-character-customization-✓/1111540

[hazy kettle]

I'm certain the "preserve the curve" picture is just a meme - but ye, just give us straight-backed Undead and Trolls, please.

[tepid fiber]

It's definitely just a meme

Fun meme but still

One issue with straight backed undead though would be having them be distinct enough to still know what they are at a glance or a distance

And then you'd have to rework all of the animations...

And then you'd still have to rework the animations while leaving them visually comparable to their original animations for consistency...

[timid meadow]

Thanks for the meme clarity, but there's been a number of folks who oppose it just to deny players something they want 😦

[tepid fiber]

Who cares about their opinion? lol

[vernal juniper]

https://i.vgy.me/gFb2ch.png

👀

[dense plover]

Just updating to match live

It’s nothing

[little hound]

They've already said 10.2.6 won't be on PTR. That's just retail build

[deep pawn]

10.2.6 will be on the ptr like a week after it's live to test season 4

[warm topaz]

they said that we will test season 4 after 10.2.6 launch

oh wait

[deep pawn]

that's what I just said lol

[warm topaz]

nvm Kyle i miss read

sorry hahaha ❤️

[rain cave]

I mean it worked for orcs

[deep pawn]

orcs go back to hunched for combat haha

it's actually a bit disorienting at times

[rain cave]

Then so can undead imo

[subtle oar]

I've never seen my orc ever go back to hunched in combat

[rain cave]

They do its just for most combat animations

I think the combat idle animation is a bit different, but its the same base

Just with what looks like an extra offset for the straight backs

But whenever casting or hitting I'm pretty sure all animations are the same hunched or not

Which goes to show how much of a difference to perception just changing the idles and non combat animations is for characters.

Straight backed undead would be pog

Even if its not fully

[ionic terrace]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24064540/this-week-in-wow-february-26-2024

8 trees this week

[deep pawn]

Damn

Tomorrow. I guess it's a sign alpha is close

[silent urchin]

ehh, there's 39 total we need to see and this brings us up to just under halfway

[warm topaz]

i think they can "release" alpha without showing us the 39 trees

they did the same with talent trees back in DF alpha

each week new trees

[silent urchin]

They said they'd show all of them first

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1762211075376791755

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Internal 3 (wowdev3)🔐: 10.2.6.53419 --> 10.2.6.53475

Found at: 02-26-2024@08:20:34 UTC

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 8:20 PM

i really can't wait to see 10.2.6, im so excited

[thin warren]

i hope we get a releasedate soon!

[upper pasture]

I mean at most it’s only like 4 weeks away. Of course unless it gets pushed back for some reason

[deep pawn]

They said they wanted us to see all talent trees before alpha too

[austere gazelle]

I hope so. tired of seeing the same classes being worked on first and it's always the same classes ending up last and having the less timeframe to take review into account

they end up shitty for several content patch after and are buffed at the end of the expack

[deep pawn]

Well they said they start with druid first for example because it's the most complex class to share things

[warm topaz]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24056988/get-an-early-look-at-eight-new-hero-talent-trees

new trees!

[ivory meadow]

????

HotS Paladin 🤝 Sunbreaker Titans: Sunspots

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1762544321968877898

Stiven (@Stiven_SRB) on X

https://t.co/kxOBBEGrEu app catalog has been updated to support World of Warcraft Cataclysm Beta \o/

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 6:24 PM

!!

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/AggrendWoW/status/1762578934917660769

Josh Greenfield (@AggrendWoW) on X

We just wrote many words and posted them over on the official forums. Going over some recent hot topics as well as a bit more info about what exactly to expect at level 60 in terms of raids and itemization. Thanks to everyone for the feedback, as always!

https://t.co/4mmdZWb3oJ

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 8:42 PM

i love classic team

[ancient jasper]

I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen anything for DH yet Hero Talent wise lol

[deep pawn]

Rogues generally come first.

There's only so many people on the combat dev team and we know they lost people this expansion

Do we know who replaced Holinka?

[austere gazelle]

cause DH always comes last, they get tested less and the windows for massive change close faster and then we have to wait two patches to have fixes

[uncut vault]

Poor monk players wish they got the privilege of getting changed 2 patches later

And not just left to rot because they’re not priority lol

[austere gazelle]

yeah monk are in the same spot lol, but no classes should wait that long or be in a spot where they review windows is less important than other classes. Imo they should settle those stuff first and then iterate on the next phase of developpment, not tinker and do small stuff on last classes while they develop their raid and realise they can't change the last stuff they made on certain classes because it'll clash with their raid design and numbers somehow

[deep pawn]

Monk is because it's the least played class

I'm honestly surprised evoker has two so far

[ember blaze]

they should try making the specs fun

clearly something aint working

[deep pawn]

People don't swap mains easily. Monk starting at level 1 hurt it

I was one of the people who used RAF to skip 1-81 back in the day

[ember blaze]

i doubt 20 years later this is still a relevant issue

[deep pawn]

first impressions stick

[rain cave]

Also monks just have an aesthetic that people don't generally like I think

They're stuck in pandaland, which isn't as general as other Aesthetics

[crystal pond]

It is difficult to expand a monk without turning it into a druid

Aesthetics i mean

[austere gazelle]

Monk is an alcooholic drood

[granite flame]

Class skins would really help monk aesthetics; Runemaster, elementalist, Elune or holy light monks

[dense plover]

Aw dang, the dreadlord sets are a shop purchase

And they don’t say they’re coming to the trading post

[silent urchin]

There's a third colour as well, isn't there?

maybe that's the trading post variant

seems like no, actually

[dense plover]

I don’t think so

Just silver and gold

[silent urchin]

ok the other "Promotion" is also bsaically nothing

[deep pawn]

this is the first trading shop reward turning into a store item though

Part of me wants the dreadlord outfit, but it's expensive for just armor

plus the wings are laughable

[fast gate]

They should have copy the big bat wings that were on the armor for... i want to say warlocks, but maybe it was rogues... blah, it was from a few expansions ago... (unless i dreamt this all up). But i recall there was an armor set that if you jump/fell in it, big bat like wings would show

[deep pawn]

This is so pretty

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1763649354223562760

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 2 (wowv2)🔐: 11.0.0.53427 --> 11.0.0.53576

Found at: 03-01-2024@07:35:47 UTC

Twitter · Mar 1, 2024, 7:35 PM

a lot of 11.0 builds lately

[deep pawn]

internal alpha is in full swing probably and public Alpha should be any time

I'm gonna guess like a week or two after cata beta starts

[warm topaz]

if 10.2.6 comes now in March, S4 early-mid April, 10.2.7 mid June?

prepatch mid August and Expansion mid-late September

i wonder how they have planned that

[harsh mason]

He has a unique skeleton, right?

[deep pawn]

don't think so

[sullen dawn]

i think the expansion is coming in august

like early august

10.2.7 will likely be 8 weeks after 10.2.6, so like mid may, not mid june

and theres a 2 week gap between prepatch and expansion usually

so prepatch mid july

expansion early august

[thin warren]

i remember from blizzcon that they will do prepatch faster now so the non-expansion systems can be used

iirc

[deep pawn]

Didn't df prepatch last 4 weeks

I think we may even see 8 weeks

This prepatch is basically only going to bring updated talent trees and dynamic flying though

[upper pasture]

And war bands

[deep pawn]

Oh true

[upper pasture]

And accountwide mog unlocks

[ember blaze]

and rep, no?

[upper pasture]

i suppose so? but all we know is all rep moving forward is accountwide not confirmed if it will be past rep too

but if it's a warband feature i'm sure it's bundled into the prepatch

[silent urchin]

iirc they said not immediately

[dense plover]

It’s gonna take time because some of the reps are in conflict with each other

[upper pasture]

Rip the mess my account is going to be when everything is accountwide tho, hopefully paragon bags will stack 😅

[fast gate]

Yeah, I believe they said it will start with DF, and eventually get to older reps

[deep pawn]

no, starts with TWW only and maybe going back

[subtle oar]

Definitely not early August, that makes little sense. I see it mid September, early October

TWW NEEDS ALL the time it can get to cook

[sullen dawn]

Disagree

[crystal pond]

Its not coming in early august lol

Late August maybe, but probably will be somewhere in September

[tropic trail]

👀

[sullen dawn]

I think it'll be roughly around the time BFA launched

Which was August 14

[lone mantle]

I am he that liveth, and was dead. And behold, I am alive forevermore.

[uncut lintel]

release in august be nice my birthday month pog

[warm topaz]

same lol

[tropic trail]

Let’s hope it won’t be shit

[warm topaz]

you mean the expansion?

[uncut lintel]

itll be fine

i think

[tropic trail]

Yea

[warm topaz]

no need to be pessimistic about it

[tropic trail]

No I just wanna get out from df as soon as possible

[crystal pond]

Whats wrong with df?

They still have some upcoming quests that will be tied to df and tww

[warm topaz]

and 10.2.6

omg im so excited

is this month!!!

[tropic trail]

I don’t like dragons 👀

[sullen dawn]

storyline

and the 'everyone is family/peacecraft' thematic

[glad niche]

idk if anyone here would know but since PTR is ahead of retail - figured worth a shot. I just saw a NElf on retail with those primalist eyes that were datamined like last year. Do we know how those are obtained now?

[warm topaz]

you mean those ones?

[glad niche]

nah, thats the elune eyes yeah?

[warm topaz]

ye

[glad niche]

this wasss.. lemme find the wowhead page from when they were datamined

https://www.wowhead.com/news/primalist-eye-customization-in-dressing-room-possible-future-dragonflight-328165

those

I saw a nelf a bit ago with the water ones it looked like

it might not have specifically been the primalist eyes for all I know, but he DEFINATLEY had lil light blueish wisps coming off solid light blue eyes

[tropic trail]

Wait did I got pinged 👀

[lone mantle]

Yes.

[tropic trail]

Was it you ? 😳

[lone mantle]

[warm topaz]

yo @lone mantle you still in Ulduar?

after all this years?

[lone mantle]

That is correct.

I spent countless lifetimes observing in silence. It is curious to interact so closely with one of your kind again.

[uncut vault]

You sure it wasn’t a DK? Their eyes look like that now

[crystal pond]

Ah yeah i forgot about this
Was focused on side quests lore

The new event suck to be fair (the one with azeroth archives)

Lorewise

[glad niche]

Unfortunately im unsure. he was wearing heritage armor and I didnt absorb the class when snooping his info

[ancient jasper]

Still not even the slightest peep about 10.2.6.. Super curious at this point lol

[deep pawn]

they said it's secret

we'll get a long maintenance warning and a launch date soon

[signal bone]

it's just going to drop, they're not going to tell us when or what it entails

[rain cave]

Would be cool if those primalist eyes they found aren't the only ones they'll surprise drop in 10.2.6

People been wanting those dragon eyes for ages

Primalist eyes also could be for every race shaman update

[dense plover]

wut? what are you talking about?

[dense plover]

really dont think those are coming either

they were for NPCs

[harsh mason]

Lol, I'm an idiot and I messed up the channels

[sullen dawn]

its kinda cool to be in the dark about a patch for once ngl

[deep pawn]

booo, we needed more trees

[thin warren]

trees are always good

ah, i tought real life trees

was wondering "wtf are you talking about forests in the PTR-channel" 😄 haha

[deep pawn]

there's a good shot the patch could be next week

it's in the next 2 weeks cause this is the 8th week of the patch

[silent urchin]

the fact there's no scheduled news makes me think there could be an announcement

the previous letter from holly wasn't scheduled either

[upper pasture]

yeah, this week is quiet then next week could be release week

i just hope it's not tomorrow cause it's compstomp week and i'm still need a lot of marks of honor

[thin warren]

"need" 😄 haha

sounds like an addict :3

[upper pasture]

listen there's a lot of old pvp mogs that need to be collected

[thin warren]

😄 haha

i understand 😛

[deep pawn]

nah, tomorrow is only week 7

12th is 8

[warm topaz]

i always repeat this but im giga excited omg

[thin warren]

throws bucket of water over Taukken

[warm topaz]

i can't send gifs Sadge

[warm topaz]

https://x.com/TheWindstalker/status/1765025693866610712?t=7by9L4JyOoEpCltFmQqp_g&s=33

Holly Longdale (@TheWindstalker) on X

@TaliesinEvitel Sorry? We have learned that not having news and deets is frustrating for our creators and players. Stick with us for a minute. Our goal is a bit o' fun. As always we are here to learn and serve. So to speak. 🫣

Twitter · Mar 5, 2024, 2:44 PM

[thin warren]

What is that replied on? Don't have X ^^

[thin warren]

thx!

[deep pawn]

I mean dead weeks suck given a lot of people are kinda over this season

So people do want to see what's next and we're about to enter a really busy period

10.2.6 likely next week with season 4 testing right after. Couple weeks after that public alpha starts

Then we have 10.2.7 ptr

Hah, wowhead made an entire news post off that tweet

[crystal pond]

The funniest part is that they released this archeology event (that actually suck lol) and other stuff to fill that gap between pacthes and it didn't work

"our goals is a bit o'fun"
me looking at the layoffs

[deep pawn]

I haven't even tried the secrets stuff cause of SoD

[harsh mason]

All new wow patches are cancelled. Source: I am

It's really crazy, I've already forgotten what the wow community is. We were told that there would be no news. This can only mean one thing: there will be no news.

[deep pawn]

I think some people hoped for more hero trees this week

We're maybe a month from alpha

[upper pasture]

According to who?

[warm topaz]

Roadmap?

TWW Alpha is coming between the release of 10.2.6 and the Season 4

if 10.2.6 is coming this month

Season 4 will come in April

[silent urchin]

those are all just guides tho, alpha is one of those things that could be delayed by a few weeks quite easily

[deep pawn]

Maybe but they seem committed to the roadmap

and delaying anything even like the cata classic beta looks bad

And they already had to make an apology post about that

[upper pasture]

are normies being invited to the alpha?

or is it gonna be CC and internal/FF? heck for all we know it could have started already? the big TWW preorder gets you beta only yeah?

for all we know the alpha has already launched and those that are in it are still under the normal NDA contract

[deep pawn]

the roadmap clearly is public alpha

[upper pasture]

just because it's on there doesn't mean it's public or that there isn't a private alpha before public access

[subtle oar]

It's clearly a public beta, otherwise it would not be listed on the road map; which is for players

[upper pasture]

the beta sure but the alpha could just be on there to "show" where they are on development. we are guaranteed access to the beta with preorder the alpha no such luck.

[deep pawn]

we know there's a private alpha going on right now

there's been multiple builds

Also, they need testing for alpha regardless

Beta is "feature complete"

So that's warbands, all hero talent trees ready to go, all the other behind the scenes stuff

[hoary trail]

beta may not be feature complete, they released DF beta without all the talent trees done

[pulsar minnow]

But they did. The talent trees weren’t finished but there were talent trees for every spec

Feature complete really just means all testable content is in the game. Beta is for tuning, slight alterations, and finishing touches

[deep pawn]

which spec didn't have a talent tree at the launch of beta?

[warm topaz]

demon hunters?

idk that was 2 years ago

oh wait maybe im confusing it with alpha

im not sure lol

[subtle oar]

Nah, then it wouldn't be on the roadmap

[upper pasture]

Such a compelling argument. We will have to agree to disagree here.

[deep pawn]

I'm not expecting an alpha invite regardless, but they're still gonna get the streamers in there

[thin warren]

i'm in Diablo 4 now, just coming online for some Traitor's Rest and back offline 😛

so it's ok for the moment

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1765170702158598493

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 4 (wowv4)🔐: 1.15.1.53009 --> 1.15.2.53625

Found at: 03-06-2024@12:21:04 UTC

Twitter · Mar 6, 2024, 12:21 AM

first 1.15.2 build

[tulip sun]

Is that classic something

[warm topaz]

phase 3 of SoD

[thin warren]

pft, we want retail!

[upper pasture]

any update is a good update

[ionic terrace]

looks like the first cata beta build

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1765550808471388433

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Classic Beta (wow_classic_beta): 3.4.0.46158 --> 4.4.0.53627

Found at: 03-07-2024@01:31:28 UTC

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 1:31 AM

[deep pawn]

woo, cata beta

[ember blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-2822468507363798988

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1765575598812864844

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead) on X

Two new Global Strings have been datamined for Cataclysm Classic that hint at potential uprezzed graphics.

#warcraft #CataClassic

https://t.co/rapC4Fvjab

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 3:10 AM

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1765644894066884750

MrGM (@MrGMYT) on X

On the Cataclysm Beta client, there is an option for "NEW! Uprezzed Graphics"

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 7:45 AM

[deep pawn]

So maybe instead of WoD models, it's the classic ones but higher resolution?

[subtle oar]

I hope not. Give us the WoD models

[warm topaz]

i would like this

[terse flume]

If they did that then they would need to re-do all the cata in game cinematics, I really feel this is a HD upgrade due to hardware being a lot better now than when it was 13 years ago

[deep pawn]

I've wanted WoD models in classic from the start as a personal toggle, but the purists won out

This might be a compromise given WoD is still like 4 years away

[terse flume]

I think the esthetic of the time is charming for the game, plus if you had all these HD models running around killing the LK as he was back then, it would look janky as all hell

I am for both, but it would have to be all models not just players and city/town NPCs

[deep pawn]

I disagree personally. I don't care if the models are out of place if it's a choice I make.

[terse flume]

I get that but you wouldn't really get to see your player model at current classic before transmog. I am more justifying the work importing the models to the classic version of the game and what would the point be right now

Like if this is your BiS in wrath, how can you see your hd model?

[subtle oar]

No they wouldn't have to. They didn't do that with retail

[terse flume]

They have been over time though, like a lot of monsters are getting HD upgrades and all the current bosses are done in the new HD format.

[subtle oar]

It's a personal choice, friend

[subtle oar]

None of the cinematics were updated

[terse flume]

Why would they need to for older content? You're asking for HD models within current classic content.

[subtle oar]

Your argument was they shouldn't add the wod models because then they would have to update the cata cinematics

[terse flume]

Yes and all the enemy and friendly models

All my point is if you're gonna update the player models to HD you might as well do it all

And there was no point doing to before since we didnt have Transmog in the game and low res armours would just cover you up

[subtle oar]

That's just not correct or a good argument. It'd be entirely up to the PLAYET if they'd want ot toggled on or not. There was never any reason not to have it be a toggle

[terse flume]

I disagree, even with a toggle its still work to be done. Their argument would be just play retail if you want the HD stuff

[tulip sun]

They wouldn't have to update any cinematics

Where's that logic coming from

They didn't do that in retail why would they in cata classic

[terse flume]

You're missing the point, all current cinematics fit the current in game models. If you're going to update current content then it would be jarring to have elements of the game not the same

[terse flume]

Also you're saying why didnt they go back and do all the older stuff to newer models, the content then wasnt current. Example, no point redoing the wrath gate when everyone is playing Dragonflight.

All I am saying is it would feel very jarring for me if I was playing, looking at a HD thrall then I went in an saw his old model during a cut scene when he shoots down deathwing with the Dragon Soul

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah it’s jarring sure but it’s your choice

That’s why it’s a toggle

Like your chief complaint here is solved by simply not using the feature

[terse flume]

My point is asking they do everything HD and not just characters?

or did we forget?

This had a toggle feature too didnt it?

[tulip sun]

Reforged's main thing was updated story and graphics. With an optional toggle for old graphics

Classic Cata is OG graphics with an optional toggle for updated player models

I don't get what your getting at

Expecting them to redo essentially everything to make it up to par is absurd

[terse flume]

Like its mad yall just want the character models and nothing else?

like why even bother?

[tulip sun]

Why does it bother you so much? Just don't use the feature

[terse flume]

Cause 6 months down the line people will be complaining it all terrible

But I doubt its player models anyways and it will be upscaled armours and textures to fit more modern hardware like I mentioned above alreay

already

[tulip sun]

There will be someone to complain regardless

[terse flume]

Anways my orignial argument is why would you settle for less?

[tulip sun]

But theyre not gonna Rehaul everything about an old expansion. They have updated character models and such they can flop on

[terse flume]

Like if you want the HD stuff why not want it all?

[tulip sun]

They can't just easily make a new cinematics

[terse flume]

Thank you!

[tulip sun]

And that is not and never has been the point of the classic servers

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1765812162453221750

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft) on X

Cataclysm Classic enters closed beta today!

Reignite the fire and usher in a new Azeroth.

Sign Up: https://t.co/YzQNCqlhhZ

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 6:50 PM

!!

i love the art work

[terse flume]

YO

[tulip sun]

We're you not arguing for updating cutscenes and everything?

[terse flume]

I was saying if you're gonna update the player models then it would be jarring to have shitty cut scenes inbetween

[tulip sun]

People toggling that will just have to accept that when they do it

Not much else to say

[terse flume]

Yea I get that but my pov is why bother in the first place?

Like we got retail for the all the HD flair

[uncut vault]

Also they don’t for retail and everyone is fine lol

[terse flume]

The current content has HD Cinematics, it fits the themes. You go back to Classic with HD models it is that version of current content, the cut-scenes wont be in HD

[uncut vault]

Yeah and nobody cares lol, because that’s how it is on live for those old areas too

If you find it jarring, you could just… not use the toggle

[terse flume]

Lmao ok ok man, I wont toggle

[pulsar minnow]

He finally figures it out

[deep pawn]

I would have enjoyed classic much more if I was replaying the game with modern models. I've never had an attachment to the old models like many.

Even when I play eq1 I use their Luclin models cause I don't enjoy the original 20 polygon ones.

There's literally people who argue against people having the choice to see WoD models because "they'll see my character in a way I don't want"

[subtle oar]

Upscaled armor is WAAAAY more effort than simply backporting the Retail models

Lmao

[subtle oar]

Literally retail. There is no reworked cinematics

Your argument is moot

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1765866950528303345

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 3 (wowv3)🔐: 10.2.6.53542 --> 10.2.6.53661

Found at: 03-07-2024@10:27:43 UTC

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 10:27 PM

please

[tight wagon]

:0

[warm topaz]

i can't do this anymore, im so hype

[deep pawn]

Hopefully it's the release candidate

[uncut lintel]

will ther be a new mount

[upper pasture]

for season 4? probs? heck there might be two new mounts

one for M+ like always and then hopefully another slime cat thingy for fated raid

[deep pawn]

It'll either be the worm mount or the nerubian buzzer or whatever the other freebie was

We already have tree, book, and slime cat

[little hound]

Wot dis

[upbeat cairn]

its a bot that tracks new versions of the game across the servers if im not mistaken

so basically a new 10.2.6 build was pushed

[tight wagon]

could the weekly tuning means we’re not getting anything new on tuesday?

[silent urchin]

If we were getting a patch on tuesday we'd almost certainly have been told, got downtime notification, etc

... apparently there was a downtime notification

[upper pasture]

and it's not the typical hour

[silent urchin]

pretty typical for patches, isn't it?

[deep pawn]

8 hour downtime!

No, this patch is meant to be a surprise

[tight wagon]

not necessarily i think they're thinking about the release to be a surprise too

if we were to get any announcements it would've been made already

[silent urchin]

gonna be wild if they drop an 8 hour maint without a patch

[tight wagon]

lmao yeah

guess the tuning is part of the patch notes then

tuesday is going to be fun

[deep pawn]

but yeah, I totally expected no more warning than a suspiciously long downtime

[silent urchin]

I figured they'd announce it's coming but no other details cause it seems pretty obvious

also for preload

[upper pasture]

i'm sure we will get some sort of teaser and a heads up for downtime but no real clues as to what the patch entails

[tight wagon]

some teasers could be nice

are we having season 4 two weeks later?

i mean no really way to know but just what is everyone is thinking?

[silent urchin]

No idea. Kinda confused why they haven't at least given us info on S4 if it's separate to the mystery

[upper pasture]

testing for S4 is going to begin after 10.2.6 but the known launch day is unknown

[tight wagon]

they'll prob delay it a bit to test stuff properly

[silent urchin]

I feel like no S4 info is what's frustrating most people

[tight wagon]

s4 is prob linked so no way to talk about it without spoiling the patch i think

[upper pasture]

they could be hand in hand or maybe the theme of the fated season has something to do with the event in question

[silent urchin]

My guild at least is pretty much done for the season but dunno if it's worth calling a full raid break if it's going to be 1-2 months or if it's sooner

[tight wagon]

i mean its impossible to judge without seeing tuesday for what it is but i think some more teasers would've helped a lot to keep people hyped

nothing huge just some teasers other than pirate hats

[upper pasture]

i think there is a lot of people hyped for this

i wouldn't under sell it as people aren't hyped for this "secret patch"

[tight wagon]

there really are but we could have even more

[upper pasture]

naw, usually we have all the info for the patch way in advance it's nice to have nothing for once

[tight wagon]

i like not having all information but some ominous teaser would have been nice

there's a checkpoint between all and nothing

[upper pasture]

i mean, we have had ominous teasers

for this patch

[silent urchin]

I'm hoping it's good but that whole crossover with SoD stuff has really killed my hype.

[pulsar minnow]

Patch 10.2.6 wishlist (totally realistic and not at all controversial):

New continent: The Shadowlands (Again)

New Allied Races: Tuskarr (Horde only), Ogres (Alliance only)

New Class: Spellblade (available only to Vulpera)

New borrowed power: Azerite Covenants - random pieces of gear determine which covenant you’re aligned with. It’s always random. You have to grind for azerite power but you’re timegated weekly! You’re welcome!

New m+ season: The Oculus, Violet Hold, Tol Dagor, Halls of Origination, Maurodon, The Black Morass, Sunken Temple (only the best dungeons!)

New feature: Dynamic swimming (there’s no water to swim in the Shadowlands though sorry)

Story: the Jailer is back, but we won’t tell you why until the end of the patch.

Again this is very realistic, and everyone will totally love it 👍

[deep pawn]

If we get patch on Tuesday, I'm expecting s4 4 weeks later, and 10.2.7 in May

[tight wagon]

sounds reasonable

[deep pawn]

I had the most evil idea though

Fake Alpha notes on April 1st.

Then real alpha notes on April 2nd

[tight wagon]

i hate fake notes

because it always includes something thats actually good

and it depressing

[ember blaze]

who knows, maybe theyre putting out ideas for feedback for future updates

[harsh mason]

Oh yes, the content is for a micropatch, which is similar in size to a seasonal patch

The people who are writing this probably forgot that 99% of the teams are already working on TWW, and only a few are making mini patches for Dragonfilght

[pulsar minnow]

Yeah, jokes aside it really makes me wonder why they’re trying to keep this patch secret, because unfortunately not knowing what’s coming leads the community’s imagination on

When, for all we know this is just gonna be another community event with pirates or something

[harsh mason]

Because the main part of expansion has already ended and everything else is being done just for fun. The developers explicitly said that a very small number of people are working on patches after 10.2.5.

[pulsar minnow]

I’m aware

I’m just saying I wonder why the secrecy and what reaction they’re looking to get

[harsh mason]

Well, by analogy with the old secrets: for people to unravel the secrets

[deep pawn]

They didn't say small, they just said for the first time ever they have a live content team that is doing the in between patches

so .5, .6, .7 is a different team than the .0s

time rifts and dream surges were the first thing they did I think, and then Archives

[warm topaz]

https://x.com/Wowhead/status/1766268443144192263?t=zvqA-Xe6t6jEXggeh8rQCQ&s=33

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead) on X

Blizzard has announced an extended 8 hour maintenance for WoW on Tuesday, March 12th. Could this mean anything?

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://t.co/o4PvShCw5U

Twitter · Mar 9, 2024, 1:03 AM

i see someone send it before but PLEASE

[crystal pond]

10.2.6 when?

[harsh mason]

In March

[crystal pond]

That the thing
It is march

[warm topaz]

no new content info i would say

[harsh mason]

There are 31 days in March

[vernal juniper]

have they ever done a "preparation" for dropping a patch later or when is 8 hour downtime is often patch day?

well it must be next week patch

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/5VON1L3LM22F1702949709254.png

accoring to this

hs event will be on 10.2.6, so since it last only 1 week

or this roadmap is wrong or it will patch day on reset

[thin warren]

hearthstone event is on 2.5?

so it's not bound to 2.6

[vernal juniper]

looking at the roadmap

hs is on the 10.2.5, from calendar it will last 1 week, and again from roadmap, 10.2.6 is overlapping the 10.2.5 so, or the overlap is wrong or the 10.2.6 will be on hs event too

and if 10.2.6 will be on hs event too, it must be next week, but again this is the only "overlap" patch we have on the roadmap so idk if is a poor design or what

[thin warren]

the overlap is just a designthing imo, the main thing is the location in comparison to the seasons

[warm topaz]

we should expect TWW alpha pretty soon too

before S4

[vernal juniper]

yeah I was thinking the same but after I had read about the 8hour downtime and I've remembered about this overlap

[thin warren]

well, we shall see! exciting times!

[deep pawn]

First week of April is my guess for alpha if they're aiming for a September release

The hearthstone event technically does start in 10.2.5 regardless

[warm topaz]

starts on Monday right?

[thin warren]

yep

i wonder what it will be, anything known about it yet?

[warm topaz]

just some of the rewards

[deep pawn]

ooo, we got a boss fight coming

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamined-sarge-pet-for-hearthstones-10th-anniversary-338002

they've gotten so good at animating pets

[silent urchin]

odd that the article doesn't mention that Whizbang's Workshop is the current set in hearthstone that releases next week

I'm getting the impression that it's more like a minigame than a bossfight

[deep pawn]

if it's HS in WoW somehow that'll be cool

[deep pawn]

"A portal will appear at the start of every hour in Valdrakken, Stormwind, and Orgrimmar, with a five-minute countdown. Once the countdown ends, Whizbang will appear and spawn Hearthstone minions. These minions include Hearthstone classics like Patches and Dr. Boom. They have a chance of dropping random Hearthstone cards or collectibles from the event, including Collector's Carryall, The Tavern's Tabard, and Compass Rose. We are still obtaining more information about drops, but the structure is likely similar to the Diablo anniversary event."

NOOOOO

[upper pasture]

seems like it will be like the D4 event

hopefully that's not all >.<

[deep pawn]

it is

there's that plus a small card minigame

[upper pasture]

so it's not just an hourly spawn and that's it

[deep pawn]

but the key rewards are the portal

[warm topaz]

you think today we should know if 10.2.6 is this week?

with This Week in WoW?

ot it will be 100% surprise?

[tulip sun]

I think the maintenance is a solid confirmation itself

[harsh wedge]

There is no precedent for this "no information" patch so no real way to guess the extent they will go for it, but as khamnin said the long maintenance is the only clue we got right now

[signal bone]

I doubt they are going to tell us what it is

we're just going to have to find out

[proper scarab]

a 100% surprise will be a BAD idea, unfortunately for Blizzard 😅

[rain cave]

Maybe some people would whine

But it's worth a try imo

[proper scarab]

Agreed

[upper pasture]

I think this secret patch is great. Reminds me of the days before data mining was widely known.

[ionic terrace]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24072156/this-week-in-wow-march-11-2024

[warm topaz]

MARCH 14

GIVE IT TO ME

OMG

and 12 Season 4 things

tomorrow

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1767237280601694574

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 3 (wowv3)🔐: 10.2.6.53661 --> 10.2.6.53703

Found at: 03-11-2024@05:12:54 UTC

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 5:12 PM

and a new build just drop

[deep pawn]

I still want to believe patch is tomorrow with the downtime

But yeah, they have to have an article ready for the s4 changes because they'll be datamined regardless if it's patch day

[cosmic beacon]

probably safe to assume we have minimum 2 weeks for season 4?

[tight wagon]

prob yeah

[cosmic beacon]

[tight wagon]

i still think its tomorrow, and then blue post after patch

wouldnt make too much sense to put blue post before patch is up since s4 is probably tied to patch

imo anyways

[deep pawn]

I'm still thinking 4 weeks til s4

[cosmic beacon]

hoping it’s 4 weeks

[warm topaz]

dude, imagine wake up tomorrow and... Surprise 10.2.6 came out

it would be crazy

i think is next week tho

[deep pawn]

8 hour downtime with no patch makes no sense

I think the article comes out while the servers are down to get ahead of the datamining

[warm topaz]

maybe they are just preparing the ground

[upper pasture]

Yeah, I’m thinking 10.2.6 is tomorrow

[proper scarab]

Exactly 😉

[vernal juniper]

internal build a vendor build just dropped

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1767283834750484508

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Internal 3 (wowdev3)🔐: 10.2.6.53661 --> 10.2.6.53703

Found at: 03-11-2024@08:17:54 UTC

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 8:17 PM

yep another one

2 today

https://tenor.com/view/aluhut-shocked-afraid-gif-15149244

[silent urchin]

Same build number as earlier, but on a different release channel

but definitely implies it's very close to release if they're putting them up in multiple places

[rain grove]

My hype meter is over the top, somebody get a quantum computer and break this encryption

[dense plover]

This is a dangerous way to feel

Because it’s a minor patch

It is not going to be super significant

[vernal juniper]

do you thing they add an event like dreamsurge in a current zone or a new zone like 10.0.7

if you don't know a new boat is already added in the game but noone has deepdive it

added in 10.0.5 I think

[upper pasture]

we will prolly see some sort of bump in dreamsurge/time rift gear again for season 4 or a new catch up event for entryway gear but it's yet to be discover/datamined and i'd doubt we will get a new landmass for 10.2.6 since the story for DF is pretty much done.

[vernal juniper]

well

the old rumors point to a isle near kalimdor if you followed the lore

[upper pasture]

yeah but that's for 11.0

the isle or dorn or whatever

aint no shot were getting that in 10.2.6

[vernal juniper]

idk, if it is a small island

it can be

[warm topaz]

gm island

lol

[vernal juniper]

dont sure if is that the name, it dosent ring a bell

[thin warren]

That Isle is a full region, lol

With the new capital on it

[vernal juniper]

found the name

Tel'Abim not isle of dorn

https://www.wowhead.com/item=204328/return-of-the-nightsquall

anyway we already have a boat with lvl 70 in npc in the game recently added almost nobody has noticed it

[upper pasture]

it was noticed

[vernal juniper]

wich one

[upper pasture]

people cried about the uprezed models being a sign of the "OlD WoRlD ReVaMp InC"

as people do

[vernal juniper]

nah the boat I'm talking is a boat added in 10.1 ish

with named "unknow" npc on it

can't find the video anymore sadge

[upper pasture]

either way, i'm not sure they would add another zone for season 4 unless whatever secret the secret patch is tied to is closely tied to the fated season. and even then i doubt it would be so far away/removed from DF

[vernal juniper]

season 4 is already known where it will be

it will be in pandaria

[upper pasture]

based of off timerunning?

[warm topaz]

maybe 10.2.6 is world revamp + housing + new continent + rework pve and pvp

[vernal juniper]

and more let me upload a screenshot

[warm topaz]

but probably not

lmao

[upper pasture]

lets not dream too hard

[warm topaz]

hahahahaha

im just joking

[vernal juniper]

season 4 will be probably pandaland with timewalking soo OR soo in season 4 added to raid rotation

https://i.vgy.me/T9eEtS.png

we will get timewalking outdoor content.

[warm topaz]

thats for 10.2.7

like we don't know for sure

[upper pasture]

maybe that's just sceneros making a come back tho?

[warm topaz]

but probably for 2.7

[vernal juniper]

read the name of it.

10.2.5

[warm topaz]

yeah but S4 is 10.2.6

[upper pasture]

and? placeholders exist?

[vernal juniper]

not really

[warm topaz]

yep, that is when they put those on the build i think

[vernal juniper]

for ME, this is my speculation

s4 will be 2 pahses, phase 1 with fated raids of DF, phase 2 fated raids of Pandaland

other wise it will be a too long fated season compared to shadowlands

[upper pasture]

that's alot of raids and weeks for a season that's supposed to be shorter

[vernal juniper]

that's the point

[upper pasture]

huh

[vernal juniper]

if season 4 will startin in Aprli is too long until august for rotating 3 raids of Df

and since we will have timewalking outdoor, already confirmed by ION, and "SOO new gear" it make sense to have soo fated and maybe tot or whatever

over a soo timewalking

[upper pasture]

what would outdoor timewalking even mean? we just get to quest again in pandaria? that's....uhh....great

[vernal juniper]

well ION said it they want to do outdoor content in a video 1 year ago

[upper pasture]

if anything i'd bet challenge modes or scenarios will be scaled up and brought back

[vernal juniper]

that is not outdoor

[upper pasture]

since the community loved the mage tower

[vernal juniper]

yea sure but it is not outdoor

[upper pasture]

wdym we've gotten outdoor content ALL along DF

dreamsurges timerifts fyrakk assualt

soup

hunts

all of that

outdoor content

[vernal juniper]

yes but you said, challenge modes and scenario

[upper pasture]

and?

[vernal juniper]

for pandria timewalking

and I said, that is not outdoor content, it is isntanced.

[upper pasture]

and you said ION said they wanted to do outdoor content a year ago

[vernal juniper]

outdoor TIMEWALKING content.

[upper pasture]

look at all the outdoor content we got since that video was made

[vernal juniper]

I forgot a word.

OUTDOOR TIMEWALKING, he said.

you can find the interview in a old belluar video

so for outdoor timewalking contend, must not be instanced

and to be timewalking you need to scale down you gear

[upper pasture]

i just don't see the appeal in outdoor timewalking content or how it would even function.

[vernal juniper]

this leads, with they datamined storylines, to a pandaria 2.0 "replay" maybe with some buffs to scale down you ilvl

well, new rewards.

also in addiction to the outdoor gear we have this

https://www.wowhead.com/news/is-siege-of-orgrimmar-the-next-timewalking-raid-removed-items-returning-garrosh-334301

add this to the fact that we will have 4 months of fated raid and they want to do something different (they said) from shadowlands

I bet we will have soo in season 4 as fated raid

[upper pasture]

i wont argue that SoO will likely be the next TW raid added to the game

[vernal juniper]

I dont think it will be timewalking but fated 😄

with 500+ ilvl gear

end game gear.

[upper pasture]

that would be silly to do all that work to just toss it out after DF S4 is over

[vernal juniper]

all that work?

its just tuning. the big part is already done.

assets are already there, fight are already tested, they only need to use their simulator and tune.

for sure we will not have 4-5 months of 3 rotating raids, while sl was 1 month of 3 rotating raids.

the 10.2.7 its called also dark heart, and where is the dark heart? in SOO.

[upper pasture]

they have already said there will be more to fated than s4 of SLs since fated SL was literally like 3 people

[dense plover]

There is NOT going to be a new zone

[upper pasture]

which is why there was no depth to anything

[dense plover]

They would have had a ptr if that were the case

It’s probably going to be a few quest lines

Maybe some cinematics

[warm topaz]

you mean 10.2.6 or 10.2.7?

[dense plover]

Both

[vernal juniper]

new zone can't be " an old asset never implemented" I don't think it will be a big island. it can be big like a "island expedition2 zone

[warm topaz]

nah 10.2.6 is something big

[dense plover]

They’re minor and the cadence is too short

[dense plover]

No it isn’t

It’s just secret

[warm topaz]

in my opinion, it will be

[vernal juniper]

10.2.6 it just a pirate expedition starting in booty bay

[dense plover]

They don’t have the capacity to test something big and the patch cadence is too short

Their dev team is mainly focused on 11.0 and 11.1

I promise you it is not a huge patch

I guarantee it

[vernal juniper]

10.2.6 starts is on booty bay, idk if we leave for a small island or not, and 10.2.7 is based on pandaland replay, <- save this post

[dense plover]

It won’t have a new area

It won’t be huge

[upper pasture]

it's probably something "fun" and that's it. it for sure will not have a new island

[dense plover]

It’s the start of the lead in to next expac

[vernal juniper]

10.2.7?

[dense plover]

Both 10.2.6 and 10.2.7 are lead in

[vernal juniper]

it is, we go in soo fated or timewalking to see the harbringer, for the dark heart.

[dense plover]

No

It’s not gonna be that significant

[mighty wolf]

Murlocs invasion?

[vernal juniper]

that's your opinion.

[upper pasture]

brother you keep saying that but facts are facts

[vernal juniper]

to me the clues points in that direction.

[dense plover]

I promise you, and when I turn out to be right, I’ll save it for every future time you say this

[dense plover]

What clues?!

The pirate flag on the roadmap?

[upper pasture]

"clues" man

[dense plover]

That’s the only clue

You’re delusional

[vernal juniper]

I don't care at all about the 10.2.6 tbh

I'm talking about the 10.2.7 mainly

the clues leads to soo. that is.

[dense plover]

There’s nothing about 10.2.7 except the name

It’s just gonna be fancy time walking

[vernal juniper]

yeah it is pure speculation.

[dense plover]

Maybe bringing back the old version of Vale that we can’t visit

I would love to see OG vale again

[vernal juniper]

it is probably not possible

since zidormi is already there and we have not seen a zidormi with 2 options yet

also all the storylines are "renamed" in the database for pandaria

not only the vale storyline

so it will be probably all or nothing.

[dense plover]

If they’re working on classic wow it might be possible

[vernal juniper]

we already have nzoth invasion on the vale with zidormi, I doubt they want to add anothery layer of zidormi on vale but anything can happen. But I doubt it.

btw this is the boat they added probably for 10.2.6 it is already in game https://i.vgy.me/sp90Hq.png

it is linked to bfa too

but this is the story for another time, afk.

[subtle oar]

Holly already stated the 10.2.6 content will not require Dragonflight, and that even Classic players can enjoy it

All it will require is a sub.

It will not be on the Dragon Isles

[upper pasture]

Yes but believing that it will be a whole new zone is…well…a long shot

[upper pasture]

10.2.6 stonks going down

[warm topaz]

https://x.com/Wowhead/status/1767336389798928445?t=E9AClulAMMahe6uNai1qmw&s=33

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead) on X

Blizzard has announced that the March 12th extended maintenance is for critical server infrastructure improvements.

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://t.co/nNkDn62cqy

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 11:46 PM

good timing hahahaha

preparing the ground

i would like to know what Network File System means

love when they do long tweets about server infrastructure

[rain grove]

NFS is exactly what the name says.

A computer accessing the file system of another via the network.

It’s absolutely the same when you share a folder on windows and other PCs in your LAN can read/update the contents.

[deep pawn]

See, this is why they tell people as soon as the downtime warning comes up that it's not for the patch

Now I'm disappointed

They seriously waited 3 days to pop that bubble

Almost feels malicious lol

[subtle oar]

I definitely do not think it will be. It will 100% be in the old world. No doubt about it

[upper pasture]

well, unless they make getting to the Dragon isles free then it will have to take place in the old world

and since that probably wont happen until prepatch of TWW it's almost guaranteed to be in the old world

[tight wagon]

10.2.6 will feature a pirate raid every hour that will last 5 min and grant one random item

:p

[harsh mason]

I'm sure there won't be any pirates, I think it was just a placeholder to mark the patch.

[harsh wedge]

That'd be a real weird placeholder then, they could have just used the same banners as the rest. Imagine if they used a troll shield or an old god eye as the placeholder, it wouldn't make any sense

[harsh mason]

A placeholder can be absolutely anything lol, that's why it's called that.

[harsh wedge]

But a placeholder cannot be something that is clearly recognizable

If they had put sylvanas' head as the placeholder, and the patch is about unicorns, what was the point of the placeholder? Especially if they can just put the same banners they put on the other patches?

[harsh mason]

In the BfA, instead of Taloc, there was an Avatar of Sargeras on the roof of Uldir

[harsh wedge]

That is completely different. Put that avatar of Sargeras on the roadmap instead of the pirate flag, it would make no sense as a placeholder.

Also, checked just to be sure, but the model that Taloc used during alpha was stated as a placeholder ("TEMP MODEL"), which makes it even more different.

[tight wagon]

honestly same

[glad niche]

Mood. I know you posted this yesterday, I just now saw it cause opf where the chat was sitting on my end... I miss OG Vale. IT was so pretty.. and Technically speaking if theres supposed to have been a multi year time skip to DF, we would realistically see places like the vale or other war affected areas redeveloped

[dense plover]

I’m not saying fix it and update it

That’s a lot of work for a small patch

Just restore removed content

[glad niche]

yeah I was just in the middle of typing and got distracted -

I dont have to see like huge overhauls or something, specially cause pandaria isnt too far behind current stuff, visually. It would be nice to be able to see it all nice and clean again. Via a toggle OR a small upgrade would be nice.

My vale is a mess right now anyways cause its got the MoP mess AND old gold noodles everywhere.

Same vein as walking into the Org central building and three warchiefs standing ontop of each other.

Someday I will complete all the quests I can find so all these timelines are fixed

[austere gazelle]

And ? Its because the talkc model wanst ready. We're talking about a drawning on a roadmap presentation, there is no need to put a placeholder there since its the final version of the roadmap
Palceholder rarely make it on released product, and even rarer on presentation that are just drawings

[warm topaz]

WOWOWWOWOWOWWOWO

BIIIG CHAGES TO M+

https://www.wowhead.com/es/blue-tracker/news/us/dragonflight-season-4-dungeon-changes-ahead-24072151

huge

is almost a "rework"

[glad niche]

reading the timer stuff, i like that new set up

would mean trying to get into and understand mythics will be less jarring

[warm topaz]

i want some pve genius that explain that to me, watching Max stream tonight

[glad niche]

I didnt realize it was a common complaint but yeah, heroic dungeons barely feel any different to normals once you have a decent set of gear from weeklies or upgrades

then that jump of barely any noticeable difference directly into timed mythic content. Well, Ive never bothered with mythic because of the percieved leap in difficulty, from when others talk about it

[dense plover]

Dang I like this

Heroic actually being an upgrade is great

[thin warren]

it makes sense indeed

[dense plover]

And not having the mythic mechanics means semi challenging but not frustrating

[thin warren]

and less keys, so more groups

[dense plover]

I might actually run heroics

[silent urchin]

I read that line as just saying the baseline Normal - M0 changes apply to dragonflight dungeons, nothing specifically about the M+ rotation

might be that they are the s4 dungeons, but I don't think this is confirming it

otherwise they'd just have explciitly stated it

[warm topaz]

they did confirm that long ago

wait let me find it

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1767610485011050891

MrGM (@MrGMYT) on X

We actually already knew this from the World of Warcraft in 2024 post from last December.

"Dragonflight Season 4 will revisit Dragonflight’s dungeons and raids, along with outdoor content"

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 5:55 PM

nvm, MrGM 🐐 tweeted abt it

[deep pawn]

lol

So we're going back to Legion!

Time for the cycle to start anew

[vernal juniper]

??

[deep pawn]

legion m+ gear rewards capped at +10

+15 was literally only an achieve and an artifact recolor

[vernal juniper]

well

its just power creep

if they were not doing it, on s4 we were going to +40

[deep pawn]

it's only creep cause they keep nerfing the difficulty of the dungeons at certain key levels I feel.

[warm topaz]

https://twitter.com/AmyChenOfficial/status/1767644274768642401/photo/4

Amy Chen 🔜 PAX East (@AmyChenOfficial) on X

Blizzard is reportedly reuniting with NetEase to bring Hearthstone and World of Warcraft back to China.

📰 Here's the breakdown of the situation + more context: https://t.co/XGe6P7sFuk

#Hearthstone

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 8:10 PM

cool

[silent urchin]

I guess not too surprising. NetEase can deal with microsoft without losing face over the whole thing

I think they have an existing relationship

[upper pasture]

Poor orc statue died for nothing

[proper scarab]

It's ok, it was horde 🤣

[deep pawn]

No nothing tomorrow, Thursday is development update so might be 10.2.6 release date, 10.2.7 announcement, and alpha date

Then 4-8 new hero trees on Friday

[dense plover]

we likely wont get all of those at once

also we wont get any info on 10.2.7 until after 10.2.6 is out

[deep pawn]

I figure since 10.2.7 will have a ptr it should be up around the same time as the s4 ptr

[dense plover]

unless 10.2.7 is just S4, we wont get info until after 10.2.6

if 10.2.6 is S4

then 10.2.7 info will come after

[deep pawn]

the roadmap is pretty clear

10.2.6 will have the s4 data

They need to announce 10.2.7 soon if it's out in 10 weeks

[upper pasture]

but that's the thing they aren't going to talk about 10.2.7 until 10.2.6 is live

[deep pawn]

10.2.6 doesn't have any story as far as we know

[upper pasture]

or else it underminds the content that comes before it.

[dense plover]

we dont know ANYTHING about 10.2.6

its guaranteed to have story BECAUSE theyre not telling us

theyre not keeping it secret because of S4

[deep pawn]

given you don't need df to participate...

[dense plover]

source?

[upper pasture]

at this point i just want 10.2.6 to come out so people can stop making wild statements about it

still doesn't mean it wont have story tho

[dense plover]

also yeah

not needing df doesnt mean no story

especially if its build up to next expac

[upper pasture]

holly said something about "everyone being able to enjoy 10.2.6 regardless of which version of wow you play"

[deep pawn]

For the 10.2.6 patch for Dragonflight, we created what we think is a unique event inspired by past musings from the community. We can say that it is open to anyone with a WoW subscription if they want to participate (Classic or Dragonflight players).

[dense plover]

that doesnt mean its the only thing in the patch kyle

[deep pawn]

That means there will be no PTR (Public Test Realm) for a portion of the next content update as we have traditionally done. What we can say is that it will be coming in March. A finer point, but the update will also include everything that’s needed for Dragonflight Season 4 but will be hidden.

[dense plover]

i hope the event is better than this HS event

this is a fucking shit show

[deep pawn]

it's the d4 event again

[dense plover]

its worse

[upper pasture]

it's just the D4 crossover with another step

[dense plover]

apparently they hotfixed in a lockout'

and we lose a day for critical maintenance

and its shorter duration holiday

[deep pawn]

Servers were up after just a few hours though

[dense plover]

oh i thought that was later

[deep pawn]

servers came up like 4-5 hours early

[upper pasture]

i wouldn't really call today a loss tho. downtime was pretty quick

3pm est it was up

[deep pawn]

I'm down to everything but the mount, you know the only drop that really matters

[upper pasture]

could have been eariler too

[deep pawn]

A development update that's just a 10.2.6 release date is kinda pointless

If it's not 10.2.7 it'll at least be alpha date since that comes around the same time as s4.

Whatever Timerunning is sounds like it needs some solid ptr testing

[signal bone]

Max said he’ll be playing the 10.2.6 content for the rest of the expac

Hinting that content creators know what it entails and it”s not endgame oriented

[upper pasture]

i mean, 10.2.6 content IS S4 so that means, at least at some level S4 is fun

[signal bone]

No it isn’t

[upper pasture]

yes it is

it's just staggered from the launch of 10.2.6

[signal bone]

S4 is separate

Aka it’s separate

[upper pasture]

it will still be on 10.2.6 patch

hence forth content in 10.2.6

[signal bone]

Ok sure but you’re just being pedantic

[upper pasture]

not really

[signal bone]

Season 4 content is dungeon Raids and pvp

[upper pasture]

eyeroll sure man

[signal bone]

I don’t see how this is so complicated to understand lol

[upper pasture]

i don't see how understanding something that comes out in a patch IS content in the patch but ya know

[signal bone]

Patch != season

Toughest was not part of SL season 1

Both came out with 9.0

[upper pasture]

look now who's being pedantic, launch patchs are complex in their own way. and more so torghast on top of that.

[signal bone]

All I’m saying is that the secret content that has yet to be revealed in 10.2.6 is separate from season 4

But you’re right that season 4 is in 10.2.6

[upper pasture]

i never said the secret content is related to S4 just that S4 IS 10.2.6 content.

so as a streamer who plays the season says things like "ill be playing 10.2.6 content for the rest of the expansion" it's an easy statement to make because S4 will be around until TWW prepatch.

[signal bone]

Ok fine but he specifically said 10.2.6 content instead of season 4, meaning he’s referring to the unannounced stuff

(Paraphrasing)

[upper pasture]

but that's the thing

we don't know if he is talking about exclusively secret content or that plus S4 since they are both 10.2.6 content. would i like the secret stuff to be robust enough to carry stuff into 11.0? sure. is it going to be if it's not including S4? unlikely.

[deep pawn]

If it's a base game event it could be something engaging

I half expect it to be a Traitor's like mini game in Gilneas

or Booty Bay

[upper pasture]

man, what if it was a better torghast system.

that would make me pretty happy ngl.

[deep pawn]

I hope it's something multiplayer

in game traitors/werewolf/vampires is something people do in RP form already

[crystal pond]

Idk why yall was arguing about s4 and 10.2.6 patch when its literally on the roadmap showing that 10.2.6 content is seperated from s4
S4 even coming later then 10.2.6 patch

I am 100% sure that 10.2.6 will have events that will nothing to do with season 4

Contect creators can say alot of stuff and then devs can change it in the last 2 seconds if they want too

You can believe them but don't put their words as 100% truth
They not devs, they not working at blizzard
They only have info that devs gladly sharing with them, but not having all info

[upper pasture]

by that logic if it is after 10.2.6 but before 10.2.7 on the roadmap then what patch number would you assume it be on?

[crystal pond]

10.2.6 ≠ season 4

[upper pasture]

jesus christ

[crystal pond]

Its will include season 4 but the patch it self will not be about that

[upper pasture]

but s4 = 10.2.6

[crystal pond]

So why season 4 is not starting with the launch of the patch?

[upper pasture]

you know what. you're right

[deep pawn]

mmo-c forums have a clearer quote of what Max said. Max from liquid just said "the one reason im ok with season 4 is that im just gonna be playing the 10.2.6 content for the rest of the expansion" on stream. He's indicated recently that him and other content creators know about 10.2.6 and that he thinks its really cool.

That wording does seem very likely to not be the fated season

[warm topaz]

Max is so hype about 10.2.6

he really is

[deep pawn]

another post sounded cool

But I highly doubt they'd sneak a whole zone in

if the live content team can get whole zones of art, I'm down for it

but my impression was the live content team could mostly mess with like UI stuff

Which is why I think it's a Traitors like game

[crystal pond]

Lets just pray for now that 10.2.6 launch will not be broken af

||but i wanna see how people will crying on Twitter (X) about all of those bugs ||

[austere gazelle]

No because above +10 will still be a bracket with loot that will go up to mythic level. Consider 0 to + 10 as " super mythic 0 " and above itll stay as the current M+ system

In short , mythic 0 to 10 will be the same difficulty and reward than the delves. No point adding the delves if the reward is the same as mythic 0-10 but its easier than said mythic + bracket

[deep pawn]

I'm talking back in legion when loot capped at +10 the first time.

[dry pumice]

[warm topaz]

tomorrow!

[dry pumice]

I am dumb, I thought today was the 14th

[upper pasture]

Mmmmm pi day

[ionic terrace]

they pushed 10.2.6 to live test, but they made it livetest2 which is encrypted

[warm topaz]

next week patch

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-cracking-up-dead-laughing-hilarious-gif-21386877

[deep pawn]

Anything that gets me closer to this season ending

[upper pasture]

you do know you don't have to play the season when you've accomplished your goals .....right?

[ember blaze]

What if wow is all you have ?

[upper pasture]

i feel like if someone "only has WoW" you'd feel that way about the game.

[deep pawn]

I just want the next season and expansion to get here. I won't lie the world events have underwhelmed. Torghast was better than the world content this time around

And I've barely played this season because it wasn't for me. I stopped when sod came out and didn't come back til a few weeks ago when I didn't really enjoy p2 SoD

Got my 2500 in two weeks, I need aotc, don't care about the axe anymore

So I've maybe played 6 weeks out of this season?

I know it's a me problem for not enjoying the m+ pool or raid more

[cosmic beacon]

Have u considered PvP

[deep pawn]

yuck

[vernal juniper]

https://twitter.com/algalon_ghost/status/1768106695425700174

Algalon, Enigmatic Observer (@algalon_ghost) on X

New #Warcraft build found:
Vendor 2 (wowv2)🔐: 11.0.0.53576 --> 10.2.7.53751

Found at: 03-14-2024@02:47:40 UTC

Twitter · Mar 14, 2024, 2:47 AM

pog

10.2.7 live on ptr before 10.2.6?

[silent urchin]

rip tww cancelled

and they said we'd get a 10.2.6/S4 PTR after 10.2.6 is live, so I imagine that will come first

[vernal juniper]

usually

when they do a blog ptr goes live same day

so 10.2.7 can be live today

[naive hawk]

We knew 10.2.6 wouldn't be on ptr since it's meant to be a surprise