dk, i love it
#beta-ptr-spoilers
cosmic beacon
harsh mason
no surprise
dense plover
no AOTC unrelated mount helps confirm that a 10.3 is likely
rain cave
I did laugh at how they said all the class sets had some emerald dream flair
tepid fiber
Idk, Tyrande is single now. We might see Illidan dive down from the Pantheon at any moment
rain cave
and then the DH set is basically a fel broker
dense plover
usually the last patch raid has a special mount unrelated to the raid
rain cave
~~Idk, Tyrande is single now. We might see Illidan dive down from the Pantheon a...
nah malfurions on tour
dense plover
this one is 2 fyrakk skins and a fire owl
rain cave
not that that would change the joke
rain cave
illidan like "oh nooooooo, malfurions gone? how saaaad"
tepid fiber
makes me think we ARE getting 10.3
Like I've been saying this whole time, I've seen nothing saying that we wouldn't
short prism
Like I've been saying this whole time, I've seen nothing saying that we wouldn't
it was always a weird
short prism
what’s the word for doomer speculations
tepid fiber
Nonsense?
short prism
i wanna say something like cope or hopium or sm but i cant recall
rain cave
BUT GUMBALL THE ROADMAP IS FULLED
wdym it's just so big it goes off the side of the screen
short prism
like someone said that this still could be the last patch and they’re waiting to tell us at blizzcon it’s like
idk
how ur mind can work like that
devoid of hope
upper pasture
void expansion confirmed
upper pasture
10.8.32.1 confirmed
deep pawn
there is an aotc mount
upper pasture
thats unrelated to the raid
deep pawn
I'm sorry, but in what world was the void dragon and crab not related to their raids lol
only the first one was used as a hint to the next expac
short prism
void expansion confirmed
unironically explicitly uncomfirmed
short prism
the interview where they talk about a world revamp coming for sure in the future, they said no old god expansion haha
upper pasture
all the doomers will confirmed the void expanison with they lack of hope
dense plover
its pretty much guaranteed today
its just that the video was probably recorded a bit ago
and they didnt know what day ahead of time
pulsar minnow
the interview where they talk about a world revamp coming for sure in the future...
Was this in the icy veins interview?
short prism
Was this in the icy veins interview?
harsh mason
Was this in the icy veins interview?
harsh mason
Devs won't confirm if Patch 10.2 is the last major content patch, but have firmly stated that it isn't the end of the story either - there's more to tell after Guardians of the Dream and the devs are really excited for us to see where that takes us. https://www.wowhead.com/ru/news/guardians-of-the-dream-patch-10-2-interview-with-mrgm-story-upgrade-system-334881
Anyway, they don't answer directly in all interviews whether this is the last major patch or not. So there's no answer, but usually they always say it directly
deep pawn
cause they can't spoil us 2 months before Blizzcon
austere gazelle
amirdrassil will get corrupted, Azeroth will start being a s**thole, nozdormu will tilt and will go back in time to change it and become murozond
rain cave
I just realized how nice of a name amirdrassil is
amir being similar to words for sleep in other languages
since it's a tree in the dream
tepid fiber
And fun to hear other people attempt to pronounce
deep pawn
amir is a real world word/name, so shouldn't be that hard.
tepid fiber
You'd think that but
deep pawn
Amirdrassil, The Dream's Hope is the official raid name
plain violet
Interesting...
harsh mason
Inside this tree are the souls of the night elves, right? I hope they won't let go of the reference to Archimonde's death and Fyrakk will tear apart the souls of the night elves
deep pawn
their anima was used to empower the tear of elune, yeah
short prism
lowkey hope we get some x-men style krakoa rebirth shit with some of that. i have a very fringe theory we could get some botani-esque night elves after the tree is fully made
(that is a very very unlikely thing to happen)
rain cave
lowkey hope we get some x-men style krakoa rebirth shit with some of that. i hav...
I'm very curious as to what the blood elf customisations will be
because that's a random thing to drop in this patch
especially since belfs already have a ton of customisations
wonder if it will be the tattoos and feather stuff like alleria has
short prism
yeah forreal, i have no idea what it really could be
it has to be more than just like hair colors and skin tones right? why would only blood elves be getting customization
dense plover
we are now in peak time for ptr
dense plover
it has to be more than just like hair colors and skin tones right? why would _on...
blood elves already got their hair and skin color update
its probably scarring
im hoping they add scars to all of the races eventually
short prism
its probably scarring
that would be so good
humans still need their facial scars removed from face presets and into their own segment
dense plover
humans still need their facial scars removed from face presets and into their ow...
yeah i reported that during beta and they didnt change it
just like how some skin colors are face locked
or face shapes are skin locked?
i dont remember which off the top of my head
short prism
just like how some skin colors are face locked
this one
but iirc its just weird implementation
subtle oar
im hoping they add scars to all of the races eventually
I'd love scars for Pandaren, plus the separation of hair colour from body fur colour
dense plover
pandaren just need an actual customization update
some allied races have more options than they do
short prism
forreal
subtle oar
Very true
short prism
what did the pandaren get in the big base race update
a few hair styles and like 3 fur colors?
warm topaz
catalyst from day one
subtle oar
With exception with the furs they got with Slands prepatch, all Pandaren furs are all pretty low definition
short prism
also that true
but all the races have pretty low resolution for their skin textures
all the base races, atleast
its more noticeable on beastfolk since we get the fur texturing
(therefore a little more important to get right imo)
rain cave
human males are really cursed imo
their skin is pretty monotone but they look like weird clay monstrosities if you try take in their skin too much
subtle oar
I was also really really hoping for the announcement for more races to be able to be druids with 10.2 but like usual, Blizzard fails to grasp at such an opportunity
short prism
their skin is pretty monotone but they look like weird clay monstrosities if yo...
the skin tone they added for folks with my complexion is really nice iirc
rain cave
I was also really really hoping for the announcement for more races to be able t...
someone said 10.2.5
tepid fiber
And once again we're upset by expecting things that weren't advertised or promoted 
rain cave
which could make sense story wise.
short prism
I was also really really hoping for the announcement for more races to be able t...
i think that might come when the tree is fully grown
it would be more appropriate then
rain cave
tree is saved, battle is fought, dream is open
more job openings for druids and more training available
short prism
we’re only just entering the dream as well, hopefully there’s a story hook for some of the races to gain druidity from that experience as well
kind of like a reward for all the help we lended lol
rain cave
they're adding new customisations that are race agnostic
which to me implies them updating that anyhow
give all the new races some unique forms and some shared forms with customisation
subtle oar
And once again we're upset by expecting things that weren't advertised or promot...
No? Literally nothing about 10.2 was known before today, so this is a pointless statement Gum. It's literally a Druid patch and would have been the most opportune time to add more Druid combinations. It's not unreasonable to have hoped for it.
rain cave
so instead of having to come up with what an undead boomkin would look like
undead boomies can use the same model as say, an orc
with color customisation ofc
for where it makes sense races can get uniques sure
tepid fiber
No? Literally nothing about 10.2 was known before today, so this is a pointless ...
And that's where I disagree, because I'm not going to be disappointed about no new race options for druids when new race options for druids were not advertised or promoted
rain cave
but giving every race their own unique forms for all of them seems a bit much imo
short prism
No? Literally nothing about 10.2 was known before today, so this is a pointless ...
we still have 10.2.5 and 10.2.7!! both 10.1.5 and 10.1.7 added some kind of class based add on to the system
tepid fiber
If they said that there were going to be new race options for druids and then there were no new race options for druids, then I'd be justifiably disappointed
short prism
druids are still getting a LOT in 10.2
this window of patch should be looked at as a window of druidity!
deep pawn
Someone said week 1 catalyst, I'm trying to find the source
rain cave
10.2.5 finish up the dream stuff, get new druids and probably a new firelord
10.2.7 set up for the next arc which appears to be tyr
and tyr's guard have a kultiran paladin
if 10.2 is final patch and we're going void next, tyr's story is also directly setting up that
short prism
but giving every race their own unique forms for all of them seems a bit much im...
i think we’re gonna see the base animal + light theme, and then later down the line we’ll see some of the cultures have unique forms of druidity
upper pasture
so, we wanna talk about how the new axes name is just Xal'atath but Fyrakk name instead? is atath a affix for weapon?
short prism
if 10.2 is final patch and we're going void next, tyr's story is also directly s...
we aren’t going void next, they’ve already said
upper pasture
oh its an L
rain cave
crazy? I was crazy once
short prism
subtle oar
And that's where I disagree, because I'm not going to be disappointed about no n...
Literally nothing about 10.2 was promoted or advertised... today was literally the announcement/showcase. This isn't the launch of 10.2 and me being upset there's no Druid combinations despite no advertisements of such. You are not using a good argument for having just watched the showcase of the new patch and being disappointed about something not being included. Be a little more reasonable here, Gum.
upper pasture
nvm i guess there GOES that lol
tepid fiber
Literally nothing about 10.2 was promoted or advertised... today was literally t...
I am being objectively reasonable and prefering to comment on content that was advertised, and not what wasn't
rain cave
they mention old gods but that isn't what we really mean
short prism
okay dawg
subtle oar
I am being objectively reasonable and prefering to comment on content that was a...
You're not. You're just trying to be hurtful for no reason.
upper pasture
i mean dont we usually see things like class/race combos added after patches that dive deep into them
upper pasture
i wouldnt be surprised if 10.2.5 we get them
rain cave
or SL did for death
short prism
when I say void xpac I mean like what legion did for the demons
i would like a void space expansion, maybe they are playing a game of semantics
rain cave
ye
short prism
“not an old god expansion heehee 😉”
tepid fiber
i wouldnt be surprised if 10.2.5 we get them
True but I'm not going to expect it unless they say it's gonna be a thing. Expecting Tauren priests and paladins was reasonable during Cata because at least in Wrath there were entire questlines (and dev commentary) discussing that
deep pawn
rain cave
if they do void, it will be like legion I reckon
deep pawn
"One that I think is going to be really cool for people who are lore nerds... We have Smolderon, who is the current Firelord, leading the forces of the Firelands. I don't want to call him a mid-raid wall, but he's that huge hurdle to get over as you start transitioning through the back end of the raid. He hits very hard and very fast, and it is an intense encounter."
rain cave
void incursions from a certain place, e.g. avaloren a new continent on the other side of azeroth
we go there and interact with the factions being influenced by the void invasions
rogue titan constructs, perhaps another classic race rebranded
clashing void factions perhaps, azshara and xalatath/iridikron
upper pasture
True but I'm not going to expect it unless they say it's gonna be a thing. Expec...
very fair, no reason to get upset about it. just saying its more likely to see it in the patch the resolves the druid stuff than it would be before the conclusion is all.
tepid fiber
Oh, for sure
upper pasture
oh no, catalyst once every two weeks? 😦
short prism
it’s too early to say that blizz has missed their perfect shot to add druids to all races
especially considering the tree isn’t fully grown yet
i think a lot of us thought we were gonna see like, the tree big enough to have a little settlement there or something atleast
rain cave
10.2.5 druids for all races, it makes sense imo
short prism
but it’s still a fledgeling
tepid fiber
Speculation can unfortunately to a lot of missed expectations, is all
rain cave
paladins are also in the cards soon
upper pasture
as with any new race combos being added ill need to pray for more character slots too
but im okay with that
rain cave
vulpera druid cat form just being a fox cat would be cool
deep pawn
yeah, found the forbes interview
upper pasture
yeah thats gonna be rough, gonna have to hold on to my charges as long as possible and not get willy nilly with them during the first month
upper lantern
When's the PTR coming out? Tonight? 😄
short prism
vulpera druid cat form just being a fox cat would be cool
i hope they get a good bear form
short prism
When's the PTR coming out? Tonight? 😄
probably!
pulsar minnow
Im praying tonight. I was hyped to see the evoker set and then boom nothing
So hopefully we can preview all the new sets and their bonuses tonight
upper lantern
Yeah, I want to see other colors of the new sets as well
warm topaz
When's the PTR coming out? Tonight? 😄
they said tonight
ptr updating
gogogogog
probably servers off yet
mossy meteor
silent urchin
ionic terrace
silent urchin
New Campaign Chapters are available for testing. Chapters 5 and 6 will not be available on the PTR.```surprised any are available
upper pasture
In Guardians of the Dream we are updating all 4 Rogue talent trees to bring them up to current standards. dons tinfoil hat
silent urchin
Swift Skimming (Passive): Ground Skimming can occur now while affected by Thrill of the Skies.
Wind’s Respite (Passive): After activating Aerial Halt, experience a brief moment of weightlessness as the effects of gravity are reduced for 4 seconds.
Second Wind (Active, 3 charges, 3 minute recharge): Instantly generate 1 vigor.```Oof, that swift skimming is BIG
silent urchin
Didn't you ever see the 4th rogue spec? it's been here all along, just like tauren rogues
upper pasture
that makes skimming how i thought it would function in the first place. so its a great addition
upper pasture
like why wouldnt we get rewarded for flying low at high speeds
silent urchin
still an insane trinket though
Players can test smmeveral new raid trinkets
smmeveral
Players will begin a questline to acquire this reusable helm enchantment shortly after entering the raid and can expect to acquire it in their second month of raiding. This powerful item grants players a different effect based on their current role and is not consumed on use. borrowed power alarm
upper pasture
shit sounds neat
silent urchin
For example: Using Season 2 item level numbers, players would become eligible to trade their Whelpling Crests up to Drake Crests when every gear slot had reached item level 411 or higher. Trading up to Wyrm Crests would become available at 424 (again, in every gear slot, using the same rules as crest redundancy), and trading up to Aspect Crests would open at 437.```I'm so hyped to try out these smmeveral trinkets
silent urchin
heritage armour part 2
now an even longer escort quest
with more pointing
holy priest got off pretty light with the aoe reduction
tepid fiber
priest
light
heh
silent urchin
new tailoring embellishment
other than that, just a new tier of pvp stuff visible for new tailoring stuff
tepid fiber
Not bad tbh, makes it easier to focus heal
silent urchin
warm topaz
a lot of things out already
silent urchin
No drakes, but there is a drake sized hole in the ilvl ranges
warm topaz
tier sets bonus
silent urchin
I suspect dracothyst is placeholder
last new enchanting thing
No new knowledge or anything, that grind seems to be over for good
dragonriding is only intermission on tindrai, you can collect a stacking damage buff during it
but also die horribly, it seems
ionic terrace
silent urchin
I read the second part of that as also increasing self damage when you're healthy
tepid fiber
Time to don the wizard robe and gardening hat
silent urchin
upper pasture
he better drop that form
ionic terrace
u oh
silent urchin
also journal says mythic ilvl goes up to 489
dense plover
all of the new glyph abilities are awesome
rustic cliff
Are the tier set appearances in game yet? I’m desperate to see what that demon hunter one looks like in action
ionic terrace
tepid fiber
@granite imp Look at this bad boy, dude
upper pasture
theres more than two?
upper pasture
oh no
mossy meteor
upper pasture
now thats not a good sign for 10.3 tbh
silent urchin
silent urchin
(2) Set Bonus: Holy Word: Serenity applies 14 seconds of Renew to its target. Holy Word: Sanctify applies 5 seconds of Renew to allies it heals.
(4) Set Bonus: Renew’s healing has a chance to cause your next Holy Word: Sanctify or Holy Word: Serenity to not consume a charge when cast and cost 50% less Mana, stacking up to 2 times.``` 👀crest trading is glorious
upper pasture
Dev tier set bonus looks fun to play with
harsh mason
oh no
I've been writing for a long time that there may not be a new zone and that's it
dense plover
brewmaster tier set is amazing!
dense plover
hell yes!
upper pasture
yes but now with a pathfinder meta achievement thats some proof
unless its just not completely updated with whatever 10.3 stuff will be
silent urchin
now this is suspicious, encrypted? item on the third boss
harsh mason
yes but now with a pathfinder meta achievement thats some proof
pathfinder was a meta achievement in 8.2
since there was no new zone in 8.3
dense plover
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
I CANT COPY MY FUCKING CHARACTER STILL
WHAT THE FUCK
and i cant get any help from anyone at blizz
so i cant fucking test
without doing all my shit on ptr AGAIN
FUCK OFF
wtf am i supposed to do?
i posted on the forum MONTHS ago
harsh mason
yes, nelfs souls
mossy meteor
ok so you get the new dragon litereally on the 2nd quest
mossy meteor
cenarius is back
deep pawn
Have you tried deleting your PTR account and recreating?
silent urchin
ok a bunch of the secrets of azeroth items aren't decrypted or whatever on PTR and it buggers up your bags
rustic cliff
Is anyone able to preview the DH tier Helm?
mossy meteor
dense plover
Have you tried deleting your PTR account and recreating?
how do i do that?
mossy meteor
ah found the raid entrance
dense plover
far as I can tell, you cant delete ptr accounts
mossy meteor
dense plover
deep pawn
Can you make a new ptr account then?
mossy meteor
dense plover
fuck i hope this works
harsh mason
Fyrakk is such a nit, I adore him
silent urchin
helm enchant buff for shadowpriest
tropic trail
was checking new achievements - this is in the character section?
harsh mason
The sets in DF are very good
I am glad that they have returned to the class theme
even if it doesn't fit the theme of the raid
mossy meteor
the new dargon mount is not available
short prism
evoker tier is basically nozdormu
oh my god
silent urchin
oh hey, the blue heritage set on tyrande's bodyguards
mossy meteor
silent urchin
try and leave the island and you get ported back :(
mossy meteor
rain cave
yes
mossy meteor
yes
rain cave
found some lush writhebark
jealous those things make me quiver when I see them on my map
mossy meteor
rain cave
juicy writhebark
tropic trail
yes but now with a pathfinder meta achievement thats some proof
pathfinder came out in 7.2 and 8.2 though and legion and bfa both got .3's
short prism
oh hey, the blue heritage set on tyrande's bodyguards
i’ve been saying for days that the blue recolor will probably be a reward from an elune questline in 10.2
but nooo night elf fans are obsessed with blizzard hating them
rain cave
early lunch for konzu
silent urchin
obtuse vine
Release after blizzcon most likely then
Or tbh could mean 10.2.5 releases in January
crystal pond
Owl Loa :0
obtuse vine
All current cups ended/are ending at the end of a patch
dense plover
they specifically noted these as test thingies
obtuse vine
Oh wow October huh
silent urchin
can't scroll any further on the calendar
pulsar minnow
Also kinda dissappointed they gave evokers a robe. I woulda preferred the skirt things
silent urchin
is this one new?
tepid fiber
AGAHFICCISN @uncut lintel
silent urchin
new one off knowledge, I guess extra catchup
harsh mason
dajardin boss
Oh, I thought they would change her model
harsh mason
It's incredible that sets from the open world are much cooler than raid sets from BfA
silent urchin
he big
mossy meteor
razzy g
silent urchin
Not a world boss tho
dense plover
is there a scarab loa?
mossy meteor
silent urchin
huh
harsh mason
Great, the entrance is not through the portal
mossy meteor
silent urchin
there's a glyph up there
theres a huge hollow underneath the tree, which seems to eb the main town
mossy meteor
seems like you get riders of azeroth badges when dragonriding
deep pawn
What a coincidence there's calendar events for the next year as if they're prepping for the end. 😄
mossy meteor
stumbled upon a random quest that lets you rest at eye of ysera
and after you wake up this happens
lots of ducks
little hound
Daddy?
silent urchin
unique model for merithra
silent urchin
damn she's really out ehre calling you out for being a murderhobo
deep pawn
Rip gracus
deep pawn
I don't think I've ever seen a ptr come up with tier and trinkets ready to go
silent urchin
or voice acting, the entire zone explorable and most of the quests ready
deep pawn
They're further along than normal
mossy meteor
lots of things are still unavailable
a lot of the voice acting is sporadical
pretty sure 10.1 was also mostly finished
you could explore teh zone, collect all the glyphs
silent urchin
quests came out across at least a couple of weeks
mossy meteor
rain cave
blizz aren't beating the furry dev allegations xD
they're nice looking though
also
has ysera done anything?
merithra is the new aspect
silent urchin
haven't seen her yet
rain cave
ysera hasn't even spoken in any of the bloody patches yet
I actually haven't even done the quest where she comes back yet because I don't even know how to start it
just had to watch the wowhead clips/summary
silent urchin
huh
mossy meteor
dense plover
so glad merithra is getting a custom model!
mossy meteor
so far
silent urchin
upper pasture
in org? the bottom room?
ivory meadow
i'm on Alliance but yeah, the gated part is open now
upper pasture
huh ill have to go look
ivory meadow
little hound
Who dis from
silent urchin
Shandris, but shandris while under the influence of weird spirit stuff
mossy meteor
jolly furnace
Ah yes I sure love getting reputation with the Loamm Niffen in the EMERALD DREAM
jolly furnace
I know it's still kinda hilarious
obtuse vine
Oh the fish store mount is here
crystal pond
Lmaooooooooo
"THE FISH IS THE NEW EXPANSION TEASER"
Also fish flying in emerald dream:
short prism
they really got a lot of the community with the fish mount and nautical shit LOL
pulsar minnow
ebyssian has a new model too
Holy fuck that looks even better than I ever could have expected
subtle oar
"THE FISH IS THE NEW EXPANSION TEASER"
Also fish flying in emerald dream:
Blizz has a history of taking from the next xpac and dropping it into the store, so ofc ppl jumped to that. Glad that at least as of now they havent done that yet this xpac
subtle oar
Holy fuck that looks even better than I ever could have expected
Pretty sure this model was originally datamined in 10.7 or.5
deep pawn
Storm the Halls of Valor
01: Pass Hymdall (New) - Defeat Hymdall.
02: Pass Eyir (New) - Pass Eyir and her shield maidens.
03: Confront Odyn (New) - Confront Odyn.
04: Depart the Halls of Valor (New) - Speak with Vyranoth
Oh snap
Here we go
crystal pond
Pretty sure this model was originally datamined in 10.7 or.5
Only icon
Not the whole model
short prism
Storm the Halls of Valor
01: Pass Hymdall (New) - Defeat Hymdall.
02: Pass Eyir ...
is that for the vyr and wrathion quest?
crystal pond
And then people was doing baits
pulsar minnow
Pretty sure this model was originally datamined in 10.7 or.5
The icon was datamined. It’s Black Aspects Favor
deep pawn
yeah, the mage set is better than the shop set
upper pasture
yeah i was just looking at the elite color and woof its good
mossy meteor
holy shit the pvp rogue
upper lantern
the mythic mage set slaps
That hat is just too cool
mossy meteor
god this is just uninspiring
short prism
god this is just uninspiring
i love love the chest piece. but that’s about it
mossy meteor
terrible
short prism
it really needs some touching up on vulpera for sure
upper lantern
The shaman shoulders, wow
upper lantern
Warlock looks like an improved version of the 10.1 set
harsh mason
Storm the Halls of Valor
01: Pass Hymdall (New) - Defeat Hymdall.
02: Pass Eyir ...
After that (and the fact that the plot on the return of Tyr ends only at 10.2), I do not believe that there will not be 10.3
I'm pretty sure the final boss will be Tyr
upper pasture
i just think theres WAY too much time between whenever 10.2 comes for there NOT to be a 10.3
deep pawn
IF this patch comes out in 5 weeks I can buy that
subtle oar
i just think theres WAY too much time between whenever 10.2 comes for there NOT ...
Yurp. There is no chances there wont be a 10.3.
upper pasture
that alone is enough for me to believe in 10.3
subtle oar
There is no chance Season 3 lasts 14 months
deep pawn
6 months of season 3, 4-5 months of fated
harsh mason
I would believe that 10.2 is the final major patch if the storyline on the return of Tyr (which stretches like a thread through DF) was completed in 10.1
deep pawn
One speculation that sounds believable is fated is old raids so we get to do Nighthold again.
uncut lintel
isnt AOTC coming in, in next patch, so are they just realeasing that early or wot??
or is there gonna be two
upper pasture
theres always an AoTC achievement
harsh mason
And when the final patch is announced, they always say that this is the final patch (otherwise there is no point). The fact that lbdi can get upset before blizzcon is nonsense, many do not even wait for 10.3.
upper pasture
this is them giving the players more rewards for doing content like weve asked for so many times before
rain cave
One speculation that sounds believable is fated is old raids so we get to do Nig...
this makes a lot of sense actually
deep pawn
There's a concerning pattern since the last 4 expansions ended with the AotC mount as the last raid, but they could break that pattern here
rain cave
they could unironically use a fated raid as part of the main story
since we need to go the nighthold anyways for time travel reasons
this could even be the flash point that elisande saw in her visions
uncut lintel
theres always an AoTC achievement
no it comes with moutn tho
upper pasture
see my second comment
deep pawn
REVAMP
tepid fiber
seems like theyre doing the thing i said
I remember us having this conversation in BFA when they included the updated quillboar
dense plover
yep
deep pawn
have they actually added any of these in game yet?
so far it's all just been datamined no?
subtle oar
have they actually added any of these in game yet?
Nope
dense plover
Nope
so if you go to stormwind, the boats are still the old ones?
must not be finished if thats the case
theyll need to match the hitboxes and size EXACTLY so that they dont have to make any major changes
novel zodiac
they're preparing the assets in advance for when they actually do the revamp?, but why would they left them unencrypted?
deep pawn
I meant we haven't seen the new buildings, none of the new stuff so far
They didn't encrypt the quillboar
dense plover
I meant we haven't seen the new buildings, none of the new stuff so far
dont think there have been too many buildings
a handful at best
and so far as has been seen - they were mainly for cinematics
this may also be the case for the boats
short prism
dont think there have been too many buildings
there have been a few we haven’t seen yet
back during the SL data mining era
dense plover
short prism
mostly like assorted horde and alliance stuff
dense plover
apparently there are new ones this patch
deep pawn
SKUNKS
deep pawn
They're adroable
dense plover
i bet it ends up a druid form too
short prism
https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/status/1699939333946671458?s=20
i love them
deep pawn
there's baby ones in the dream too
harsh mason
https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/status/1699939333946671458?s=20
Okay, this is really mega weird, but I need it
deep pawn
they're likely tameable too
warped fiber
omggg thats so cool
mossy meteor
@deep pawn what's the odyn quest you mentioned
tepid fiber
I'm sorry but did I read the word "cat" followed by "raptors"
uncut lintel
cat raptors poggers
tepid fiber
Jesus fucking christ Blizzard I'm already giving you my money what more do you want from me
deep pawn
Look at them Kitty!
uncut lintel
I KNOWW
I WANT ONEE AND I WANT THE NEW CAT MODEL
PLEASE BE AESY TO GET
east*
easy*
uncut lintel
I WANT TO DRAW THEMMM
no ima do it ima draw them right now
THE CAT OWLS TOO THO
AGUHG
i cant handle it im dying
uncut lintel
gonna cry
short prism
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1122095.jpg
they definitely give good hugs
deep pawn
hunters get new pet options every dang patch
uncut lintel
the only thing there good for is taming pets
i wanna draw the raptor cat but with troll features 
so ima d doth at
tepid fiber
hunters get new pet options every dang patch
You're damn right we do, it's our reward for dealing with all this anti-hunter crap in pugs and memes 
uncut lintel
hahahha
uncut lintel
gumball im gonna have drawing ges
fest
goodbye
too many good cats i cant even type
i CANT TYPE
tepid fiber
Foksi no
deep pawn
oh snap, they're confirmed to be druid forms
uncut lintel
-DIES-
deep pawn
storeshop outfit
uncut lintel
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-datamined-sylvanas-armor-transmog-currently-unu...
OH HLY MAMAM MAMMAA MGAYYY
deep pawn
Let's go full ff14 and sell npc looks
upper lantern
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-datamined-sylvanas-armor-transmog-currently-unu...
Looking like trading post material lol
tepid fiber
Dying <a:rooSipping:797694727512129538>
subtle oar
<:dracthyr_lulmao:1002363132930424903>
calm holly
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1699924627475112143?s=20
Omg!!! I love that raid finder color!! (If u click the link and scrill down there is video)
deep pawn
PATHFINDER!
pulsar minnow
Interesting but kinda neat narrative choice in 10.2
Q'onzu the Loa of Change uses they/them pronouns, is that the first time in wow?
ofc people will find reason to be mad at this, but I think it's cool and fits pretty well thematically
Also really interesting that it's an OWL who is a LOA and not a Wild God
deep pawn
Slight spoiler, but ff14 also has genderless Fae, but that came out after they had written gendered Fae for Ardenweald haha
upper pasture
with night fae people coming in this patch theres like 0.0001% chance of seeing more Voljin
not that i believe it will happen so quickly but i eagerly await his return
deep pawn
Though I'm curious how death got to life
plain violet
We know we can come to the Emerald Dream from Ardenweald so...
I suppose they did this!
deep pawn
We can but we're also mortal
spring mulch
short prism
Q'onzu the Loa of Change uses they/them pronouns, is that the first time in wow?
the first one is Alexstrasza’s majordormu Selistra
they have a nonbinary VA as well
i’m excited for when pronoun stuff comes to wow, i hope VAs to go with it (i have an androgynous voice irl so i’d love to make a character with one :3!)
harsh mason
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-datamined-sylvanas-armor-transmog-currently-unu...
There's also Varian's armor and weapons when he was a gladiator, as well as belfs sets. I think this is all for trading post
crystal pond
Is the quest is available or they just standing there atm?
spring mulch
just stand
young latch
I LOVE HER
I was kind of hoping emerald dream fae would make an appearance and have a more summer look to them
Do we know what the flourishing whimsy drake looks like yet?
plain violet
I LOVE HER
Who knows in the future...
But I LOVE that Ardenweald is helping the Dream.
We do!
It's a biiig faerie dragon.
young latch
Omg!!!!!!!
plain violet
So cool right?!
silent urchin
There are a few customisation options for it, sadly its bugged on PTR right now
young latch
I’m excited about the owlbear
Sad worgen can’t be wolves in feral form still?
Seeing funtional hair with a wizard hat almost made me cry I’m so easy to please ahaha
crystal pond
The faerie dragon face is 💀
Why its so weird
young latch
I think the fairy dragon eye might be the thing throwing people off since they look like compound eyes when they’re smaller
They’re going to have different kinds of custom snouts
But also faerie dragon have very round snouts and an underbite
deep pawn
Seeing funtional hair with a wizard hat almost made me cry I’m so easy to please...
it's a bit buggy
young latch
it's a bit buggy
The straight parted hair for belf women does not clip so I’m content
The side braid works well with it too
Only 1 void elf hair works
All of the nightbourne hair clips unfortunately
I didn’t test nelf hair
deep pawn
it clipped on my KT
harsh mason
So, well, in the raid journal, the bosses are in the wrong order. Since Igira is a tier boss, but she goes second
deep pawn
Depends on how wings are set up
She could easily be reached second but may not be the second easiest or something like that
I believe in the Aberrus journal for example assault comes after experiments right?
silent urchin
The new dragonriding ability is disabled during races
which I guess makes some sense
unless they were gonna fill your charges each time
waiting 9 minutes per race would suck
Not convinced full speed ground skimming is working yet
warped fiber
does anyone knows when patch 10.2 drops?
sonic bison
Probably 2 months from 10.1.7
warped fiber
and how do i create a max lvl druid without grinding on the ptr? LMAO
sorry for the questions, 1st time on the test server
sonic bison
You copy one from live.
warped fiber
Probably 2 months from 10.1.7
ohh!
sonic bison
But unless your balance, you won't be playing druid, probably. 🤣
sonic bison
Pretty sure we get nice looking forms as a conselation price for having 1/4 stay meh, and 2 being nerfed to the ground.
sonic bison
The forms are great!
Owl bear is 100% after the owlbear from Baldur's Gate III. And it is cute AF!
mossy meteor
Their ruining most druid specs.
What
No
If anything, balance is gonna be way better with the changes coming
It's already in a very good spot because you have room to try different builds for m+ or s/t
Feral is, well, feral
I don't think blizzard knows what they want to do with it
The few feral players I know are just in constant state of misery
crystal pond
Being druid is a pain in general
Yes, druids have a bunch of stuff that makes it easier for people to play, but the balance of it is 💀
sonic bison
Balance is the 1 spec that will be viable.
Guardian finally had something that worked and was fun, it was just too strong (that is a numbers problem... which can just be nerfed). But they are changing the playstyle entirely. So Guardian is back to being shit for the first half of the patch and once it gets fixed it takes the rest of the patch for people to realise before they see M+ or Raid invites.
Resto will be deleted. As we are being forced into being single target direct healing players.
Crit/mast healing, nourish spamming.
Set bonus is synergy betwene Grove Guardians and Nourish, which are in the same choice node so can not both be picked.
Flourish, one of our main abilities is nerfed 75% in power, 25% in extension and another 25% in duration (thats an 87% nerf).
So running old set bonus will not be viable (like they knew we would seeing how useless the new set bonus is... xD)
Feral still meh.
So Druid == Balance. No other specs.
Which is weird for a "Druid patch" as everyone calls it.
harsh mason
does anyone knows when patch 10.2 drops?
there will be 6 months between major patches. That is, around the beginning of November
they said they would release content every 8 weeks(approximately)
that is, 1 patch every 2 months
rain cave
So Druid == Balance. No other specs.
Bro what are you on about we're literally in first ptr build
😭
Aren't they also changing other healers
And guardian have always been good tanks this xpac
I've never had qualms
But yeah I wouldn't panic about balance changes
They will change things over the course of ptr
sonic bison
The idea of forcing RDruid into single target and direct healing. Is EXTREMELY worrying, though. Just having that idea means they are looking to entirely force change the play style.
Nourish build was viable before, NO ONE took it, as we do not want to play it. Forcing it upon us, is really, really a scary thought that some one thinks that is a good idea.
It is like trying to force a mage to melee with a set bonus, while nerfing everything it does not synergize with.
rain cave
We shall see
silent urchin
Set bonus doesn't depend on having both nourish and grove guardians at all
There are also many ways to trigger both of them without having the talent to have them directly
flourish previously gave 8 seconds of healing at 200% power, it's now 6 seconds at 125% power. It's about a 53% nerf
rain cave
Numbers are weird
Even if on paper, they nerf something like that
If the rest of the kit is rebalanced to be burstier
Could end up being the same total healing
In a shorter time
Ik resto druids like hots
But there's a design issue is they're too good and too long
silent urchin
the hots themselves have largely received buffs
rain cave
Set and forget
silent urchin
Rejuvenation healing increased by 25%.
Interesting
silent urchin
so including that closes the gap on old and new flourish further
Luxuriant Soil now causes Rejuvenation to have a 1%/2% chance to jump to a nearby ally (was 1.5%/3%).``` this is the real nerf btw,Next "Secrets of Azeroth" mount.
silent urchin
that's on live, it was decrypted/hotfixed yesterday
Got a bit lost in all the PTR news
little hound
ooh
harsh mason
Damn, I didn't notice that she has a cute pink nose
Abyssian has a model about the same as I was waiting for from Neltharion, lol
silent urchin
The pink was definitely less pronounced in game
warm topaz
that's on live, it was decrypted/hotfixed yesterday
take a lot of care with the last step
like a lot
don't do that alone
plain violet
Damn...
atomic thorn
On 10.2 PTR BFA legacy loot is now enabled 🙂
little hound
On 10.2 PTR BFA legacy loot is now enabled 🙂
Eeh..Its been enabled for a while?
I've been doing solo uldir for the last 4-5 weeks and gotten 6-7 pieces per boss.
atomic thorn
Welp, I hadn't looked at it since M Rasz, so maybe it was enabled in one of the recent ones - my bad lol
little hound
Welp, I hadn't looked at it since M Rasz, so maybe it was enabled in one of the ...
It happens 😄
tepid fiber
Welp, I hadn't looked at it since M Rasz, so maybe it was enabled in one of the ...
Don't take it personally, it happens to everyone:
plain violet
So cute...
deep pawn
So interesting, their solution to making the raid harder on release is more ilvl inflation
short prism
-SOBS-
so so cute
i want one as a plushie
i’m so happy raptor cats are a new cat form
deep pawn
Is the raptor cat confirmed as a cat form.
I was settling for it to be just a travel
"visual clarity" and all
silent urchin
afaik nothings confirmed
uncut lintel
itd be nice to finally have a raptor attack form but i doubt it tbh with how zandalari raptor form is travel
rain cave
<@216765193047375872>
Give pandaren horn customisations?
short prism
itd be nice to finally have a raptor attack form but i doubt it tbh with how zan...
that’s true! turns out the speculation on it being usable in cat form is based on the fact that cat form would only get 1 form, whereas ground travel form would get 2 forms in this update
if they add more cats i can defo see it dropping that theory
deep pawn
if bear's second form wasn't tied to mage tower I'd see them removing it for pvp clarity haha
subtle oar
itd be nice to finally have a raptor attack form but i doubt it tbh with how zan...
It should be vulperan cat form
UwU
short prism
if bear's second form wasn't tied to mage tower I'd see them removing it for pvp...
i hate that pvp clarity thing
i wish there was a way they could turn off stuff only for pvp, not like
not adding it to the game bc of pvp
tropic trail
when does the PTR for Guardians of the Dream come out?
upper pasture
when does the PTR for Guardians of the Dream come out?
its already out
upper pasture
i wish there was a way they could turn off stuff only for pvp, not like
they should 1000% make if in WM or queue PVP it should just be basic forms but then pvpers would complain they dont get to show off their fancy forms
upper pasture
thanks, his name is castor and hes a handful
tropic trail
Tell castor i said hai
short prism
they should 1000% make if in WM or queue PVP it should just be basic forms but t...
atleast just like, a handful of things. like if it’s the same silhouette or something. the argument against class skins is the same thing imo, just turn it off in pvp
deep pawn
Kinda wish they had told us a testing goal for this weekend. Is it just quests and the zone?
dense plover
Kinda wish they had told us a testing goal for this weekend. Is it just quests a...
definitely
first builds usually dont have testing goals
testing goals come when they want focused attention
right now EVERYTHING needs testing
(still cant copy my character to help test btw)
deep pawn
I wish I knew what was wrong with your account. I have no issues
I bet petopia already knows what's tameable on ptr
short prism
i think i saw them make a twitter post lol
deep pawn
Website not updated but likely they're working on it
Gonna be a long two months til Blizzcon
Most of the questions I have won't be answered until then and the 2024 roadmap
dense plover
I wish I knew what was wrong with your account. I have no issues
i wish i knew too 😭
deep pawn
lol, the new dragon turns you invisibile
I like the afk way to do the fire quest
you get to ride a store mount!
glass flicker
deep pawn
I meant it's neat for a quest since you don't normally get to
The owlbears are feathermanes, makes sense
@uncut lintel The cat raptors are tameable!
uncut lintel
<@216765193047375872> The cat raptors are tameable!
ooo maybe it could be a cat form
deep pawn
pity they're cunning but still
dense plover
<:eyesWW:739935673078906920> ooo maybe it could be a cat form
probably travel form like the zandalari raptor form
b/c silhouette matters for cat form but not for travel form
deep pawn
b/c silhouette matters for cat form but not for travel form
but bear. 😄
dense plover
cat form silhouettes have to be sorta consistent for pvp
dense plover
but bear. 😄
bear has 2 silhouettes and the 2nd is very easily recognized
mixing a raptor into the mix for cat would be confusing
uncut lintel
pvp ruining dreams
dense plover
the 2nd bear form is ONLY used for that
deep pawn
oh come on, the fire birds can be tamed but not the fire cats?
uncut lintel
fire cats r druids i thought
deep pawn
I dunno, they stay in cat when dead
there's these giant scoprions that are tameable
oh, old skin from the molten front
I appreciate them trying to hide stuff around the raid making all the NPCs "unknown" but come on, shadow fyrakk is pretty obvious
oh snap, there's a tameable fire owl
It's a spirit beast
There's also another spirit beast that uses the loa model from BfA
this one
uncut lintel
https://forums.wow-petopia.com/download/file.php?id=32194
wtf what mouse is that
deep pawn
wtf what mouse is that
those are from Zaralek
deep pawn
fire cats r druids i thought
also, we can tame the wood cats they're added, so why not fire cat
these are tameable
uncut lintel
i dunno
deep pawn
so this patch is throwing out the "you can't tame druid looks"
tepid fiber
Now they just need to let us tame druids 😏
deep pawn
hah
interestingly they've updated more Blood Elf and Night Elf npc textures
Is there a Classic/TBC city that hasn't received updated guard visuals yet?
short prism
i think we’ve gotten all of them over the course of dragonflight so far
very suspicious heehee
deep pawn
totally not getting ready for something eh?
short prism
absolutely not
never
cata sucked there would NEVER EVER be a world revamp
obviously
vernal juniper
thin warren
young latch
When blood elf druids become a thing this mog will be possible 😮
deep pawn
Not recently
They condensed many raid loot pools. Makes off class sets hard to collect
young latch
Can't you do that anyway?
nope this is druid only
And it gets even cooler with some of the new datamined pieces.
rain cave
Ehh I think shoulders and helm don't match the legs and chest, gloves
Different styles and resolutions, colours slightly off to my eye
That wod set is good though
That the shoulders are from
sleek solar
Hunter always get shit sets
I hate these new sets
Afaik Eagletalon is the only cool one
Also the new Belf customizations are a let down
This is one of the hunter sets btw
short prism
Also the new Belf customizations are a let down
i’m tempted to hold back my judgement for full patch release. it’s really weird they would be a “patch feature” when previous times something like this small has happened, it wasn’t listed as a “patch feature”
there’s probably more to come in a later version of 10.2 PTR
subtle oar
This is one of the hunter sets btw
As always, Hunters tend to get shafted with their tier sets x3
Dev teams like, "We gave them the Nighthold set, what else do they want from us? That makes us good for like, a decade,"
sleek solar
Haha exactly!
silent urchin
The dragon shoulders are pretty fancy up close
pretty much all the sets this time are
but it definitely feels a bit.. off, as the whole package
rain cave
I think it's the shape of the shoulders and the helmet
For hunter
Like the idea of the shoulders is good
But they have a weird silhouette
The helmet looks like a green
upper lantern
The shoulders for shaman and hunter look pretty good. The rest of the two sets, not so much, though shaman seems more consistent in quality
short prism
This is one of the hunter sets btw
the more i think about, the more i realize this set only really feels good on the chunkier models imo
dwarves and tauren look better in it than the skinnier races
tepid fiber
Good, the sticks are spoiled enough
upper pasture
“The sticks” 😂 idk if I should laugh I know what you’re talking about or be sad lol
Gumball the elf hater
tepid fiber
Listen
Listen
Look at all that elf content all over the place
They're SPOILED
Elf players are that kid at a birthday party who has to get a present every time the birthday kid does
upper pasture
They’ve already lost two world trees and now they’re getting a third? Let’s hope they don’t lose this one
pulsar minnow
I’m gonna say something crazy but honestly I feel like a section of the night elf Super fans who keep complaining that blizzard hates night elves aren’t aware they’ve been a major part of the last 4 expansions
Like if anything they’re blizzard’s favorite. Yes. You lost a capital city and a bunch of npcs. But are we just forgetting that gnomes haven’t had a city since the game launched?
They’ve just been tacked on to ironforge and that’s it
upper pasture
I mean, tbf nightelves to me are like THE core WoW race and I ain’t even a NE main
pulsar minnow
I used to be back when I was alliance. Almost all my characters were night elves
But that’s why I’m so baffled by people who think blizzard hates night elves
Are they even playing the same game?
tepid fiber
(To clarify I include all elves in that statement, not just nelves)
rain cave
night elves getting a trading post set, a trading post mount, a monthly reward of night elvy elune swords, continuous arcs expanding their story for like 3-4 expansions in a row
heritage
customisations
dark rangers
tepid fiber
They’ve already lost two world trees and now they’re getting a third? Let’s hope...
Maybe they can have a world tree when they stop losing them! Jeez, one is still littered with cranky furbolgs to this day 😂