imo double points if she directly helps us with an alliance of convenience at the end to deal with iridikron but then instantly turns on us once he's dealt with because she is NOT our friend/ally
#beta-ptr-spoilers
rain cave
(unlike so many other times when villains turn antihero and just end up being edgy good guys)
a villain who knows to use us when the offer is presented, but is staunch in being strongly opposed to us
harsh mason
I'm just reminding everyone that Vyranoth KNOWS about Void and understands that they are using it for their own purposes. She literally says that "we are using dracthyrs to get them to release void"
harsh mason
Personally, I think she is no better than Iridikron and is well aware of all the plans
rain cave
we've yet to see the end cinematic
should be close no?
but yeah I think what's going on is they're fine with voidier stuff because it's more chaotic, and voidy stuff has allied with the elements before
e.g. the elemental lords, ragnaros
they could be going for a twist here, where iridikron may be bargaining with the light
which is similar to order, it's its own kind of order
and is ofc tied to tyr
harsh mason
she says she's ok releasing the aspects worst nightmare
Well, that is, she understands that there is something in Aberrus that is "a nightmare for the aspects themselves." She also knows what has become of Neltharion. She was shown as the "brain" of the team. It is obvious that she understands exactly what is there\
rain cave
yes
I'd find it funny if they think there's a big void entity in there
but then the place we fight sarkareth there's nothing there
like it's already gotten out
(maybe xalatath's body or something)
and they just go
"wait hol up"
crystal pond
harsh mason
I'm still wondering what will happen with Igira. She definitely doesn't die in 10.1, as she commands Fyrakk Assault on a par with Fyrakk
crystal pond
Good cutscene but like
I dont enjoying the fact that all other cutscenes in 10.1 was a little bit goofy, and then talk about Ebyssian and Emberthal have high quality
Wtf why
"Legacy of deathwing have only death"
And a little bit spicy void
harsh mason
https://youtu.be/w2R_5-cf8sM
The voice acting of Emberthal and Sarkareth is gorgeous. Especially in the previous cutscene, when Sarkareth almost cries
crystal pond
I mean the animation
harsh mason
I realized something here, not every raid had cinematics. Usually there is no cinematics in the 1st raid, but it was in DF. So there may be no cinematics in the second raid
crystal pond
There will be
crystal pond
I realized something here, not every raid had cinematics. Usually there is no ci...
Because sarkareth have no death animation
He just falling to his knees
harsh mason
Because sarkareth have no death animation
Yes, I know. I'm just guessing
silent urchin
No cinematic from raid, guess we gotta see what happens in the final chapter
oh apparently there is one
just not immediately on boss kill
harsh mason
I told that not every raid had cinematics
They don't always made cinematics to raids. That's why I remembered that it's not a fact that it will be. So far, we have one large cinematics and one short one in 10.1. According to the idea there should be another one, judging by datamining
Now it remains to understand where that zombie-void-dracthyrs will be used
glass flicker
Easy to say. Trash for the next raid.
uncut vault
there's a short cutscene after the fight
where he just goes "oh no dad why did you do this" then dies lol
harsh mason
There's also a final chapter on why People turned off the stream after Sarkareth?????
uncut vault
none of them had the quest for it
they went right into the raid
the rest of the story will require the raid kill quest, like with Dazar'alor
silent urchin
is the final chapter even available this week?
uncut vault
unknown
silent urchin
I assume no sign of blue dragonflight quests, or cause without a rebel
harsh mason
So it will open for weeks. Most likely
Are there 6 or 7 chapters in Zaralek?
Because there is a 6th chapter in the raid. If 7, then there should be more
uncut vault
5 in Zaralek, 6th is the post-raid
pulsar minnow
Honestly thank god they’re not doing old gods with Abberus
I know I talked about it a while go here insisting it was gonna happen but man am I happy they’re not doing it. This is the dragon expansion and looks like it’ll probably stay that way
harsh mason
I know I talked about it a while go here insisting it was gonna happen but man a...
By the way, it also annoyed me a little when people were not just building theories, but literally shouting that everything, we have a return of Nzoth here
And so many videos have already been released on this theme that most were really waiting for it
timber rose
That cinematic was pretty... sad. And not from the lore perspective.
upper pasture
could have more on a mythic clear tbh but who knows until it comes
harsh mason
That cinematic was pretty... sad. And not from the lore perspective.
Why? This is the finale of the story arc with sundered flame. And this story arc was not central in order to be further perspective
Actually, I also thought at first that there would be a cinematics, BUT! I've never shared all these theories around what the void theme will be next
But I thought we would have void dracthyrs (they kind of exist, but so far only in data mining)
pulsar minnow
By the way, it also annoyed me a little when people were not just building theor...
Oh yeah a nzoth return I agree would’ve been stupid. I’m just glad I’m wrong
crystal pond
Nzoth return is such a stupid thing
There so much potential for new villians and reincarnating old villians is just annoying plot twist
jade basalt
I did say this was not going to lead to anything Old God-y!
It's just more exposure to Void, until one day, Void expansion. Similar to how BFA had a lot of references to Death.
subtle oar
What an anticlimactic raid/cinematic. Ryan Johnson levels of "subverting expectations"
crystal pond
Although I will not mind the return of Kel'Thuzad just for memes 
crystal pond
Literally "dies of cringe"
harsh mason
Although I will not mind the return of Kel'Thuzad just for memes <:dracthyr_hehe...
It seems to me that he should not even have appeared in WotLK
Where he just appeared on one reuse raid and died
crystal pond
It seems to me that he should not even have appeared in WotLK
Why?
harsh mason
Why?
He didn't do anything. As in SL, it was returned just to have it (but in SL it did something)
harsh mason
Well, maybe I just personally expected him to be more involved in the main plot
Still, he is quite an iconic character
crystal pond
I mean
Not even nostalgic expansions are perfect
harsh mason
And so it looked more like just a reuse of the old raid
Rather, he was returned only for the sake of the reuse of the old raid
pulsar minnow
I’m still very confused as to what Vyranoth even meant by “aspects darkest nightmares” because idk about you guys but Sarkareth just seems like an annoyance more than a threat
upper pasture
probably the fact that one of their own fell to corrpution (deathwing) it's like the aspects biggest failure to date.
(and all his secrets that were locked away in the lab)
harsh mason
Well, she almost did it. I'm not even talking about the fact that a lot of drakonids were killed, who didn't want to follow the aspects (since sundered flame included not only dracthyrs). But also Wrathion and Sabellian almost succumbed to the temptation to use the lab
crystal pond
We faced nzoth when he was freed and you gonna tell us that our bois will succumb to voidy lab? Wtf
This is so stupid
I was expecting like
That sarkareth will be a threat, like he will free void/void magic into Dragon Isles and it will become a problem but...well
Guess shadowflame fyrakk is even more interesting now
upper pasture
Just because something didn’t happen immediately doesn’t mean that there aren’t ramifications to what they did
pulsar minnow
My guess as to where the story is going - mega dungeon dealing with either the Temporal Conflux or Vakthros (10.1.5). Aspects use the birth of the new World Tree and its direct link to Elune to bring about a new Embrace in which they can then regain their aspectral abilities once more (10.2). Idk what after
harsh mason
We faced nzoth when he was freed and you gonna tell us that our bois will succum...
Actually, I personally switched to the side of Nzoth...
rain cave
Does anyone else get the vibe that sarkareth was seeing something in that void in front of him
As in like literally staring at something we cannot see
And he's taking to it as if its neltharion
Combine that with the weirdly deathwing looking void glass
Perhaps the thing that drove him mad, was actually what inspired his appearance?
Whatever void thing was fucking with sarkareth, being similar in appearance to what death wing looked like. Sarkareth even starts looking like that in his corrupted form, bigger jaw and all
rain cave
stare into the abyss and the abyss stares back
honestly the idea that there was something in that weird void realm, portal, thing that's just watching us the entire time but we can't see it in the void is kinda spooky
pulsar minnow
ah okay playing through the raid right now and just got to neltharion
it seems like the "darkest nightmares" of the aspects was the corruption of the black dragonflight once more
the echo of neltharion was trying to get the black dragonflight to succumb to the void once again
wrathion and sabellian rejected his gifts of course, which is why hes a boss
harsh mason
It's not even that he saw it. Or heard it. He literally wanted everything he went through to be not in vain. In fact, it turned out like this: the dracthyrs had a tough selection, during which many died, then they were made into ideal warriors, and Neltharion was the only "father" figure for them. Then they get rid of them, and when they wake up. And after that, when they awaken, Sarkareth finds out who Neltharion has become.
And it turns out that if he had given up (went the other way, like Emberthal), then everything he went through would have been in vain.
If someone has played Mass Effect 2, then there is a storyline of one character that is a bit similar
But if look at the consequences, then yes, there are none. We won in this patch (well, by half, since Fyrakk devoured SF)
upper pasture
Does anyone else get the vibe that sarkareth was seeing something in that void i...
yes, he was blinded by the void since the oathbinder scene.
dense plover
unless the last chapter is raid, seems like the end of the campaign is next week
tulip sun
unless the last chapter is raid, seems like the end of the campaign is next week
Ugh.
I really don't want him to die
dense plover
I really don't want him to die
?
dense plover
there is no evidence of that
and they just gave him a new model
you dont get a new model just to die
and what would that accomplish?
also who would he die to?
that wouldnt even make sense with the story we have
tulip sun
that wouldnt even make sense with the story we have
I entirely agree
But everyone talking about it is making me worried
subtle oar
There's no way they're going to kill off their forced new Black Dragon Flight Aspect.
uncut vault
unless the last chapter is raid, seems like the end of the campaign is next week
does this happen after completing the raid quest, or are there other post-raid things immediately available?
dense plover
does this happen after completing the raid quest, or are there other post-raid t...
this was before completing the quest
i dont have a guild
or confidence to tank sarkareth
so idk what it looks like with that
but the raid quest isnt under the tab
so i think its separate
harsh mason
Dezran is alive, everything is fine
harsh mason
does this happen after completing the raid quest, or are there other post-raid t...
I can't play myself yet, but of all the streams that I watched, nothing appears after the death of Sarkareth. There should be a plot chapter of A Flame, Extinguished. Most likely, it will be available next week so that everyone gets access to it, not just those who killed Sarkareth
harsh mason
And so, I will immediately write that this does not mean anything at all, but Sarkareth has an ability that is not in the journal(and which was not in normal and heroic). Perhaps there will be a secret phase
Or just hidden abilities for normal phases
cosmic beacon
Sounds like some Argus kinda mechanic
upper pasture
i wonder where the supposedly legendary weapon is coming from. one would assume if it drops of sarkareth we'd see a drop by now unless it's mythic only.
little hound
unless the last chapter is raid, seems like the end of the campaign is next week
Last Chapter Is to release Adamanthia.
As he returns to the Forbidden Reach to do so.
little hound
Based on what?
Based on datamined dialogues, leaks and datamined quests.
silent urchin
gonna be weird if the reveal tomorrow gives stuff away that's sitting encrypted but not released
curious when Cause without a Rebel is coming too, given that was fully playable on PTR
I really do not like how much is being held back
especially with zero timeline or communication about when it might come
harsh mason
curious when Cause without a Rebel is coming too, given that was fully playable ...
They may release next week simply because from the point of view of the plot, the 6th chapter in Zaralek is the raid itself.
And like, other storylines just go separately after the raid story
Well, that's what it seems to me
Aberrus is not the final 10.1
plain violet
Last Chapter Is to release Adamanthia.
Really interesting, thanks.
upper pasture
maybe the legendary is tied to completing the campaign first.
harsh mason
harsh mason
The quest is connected with Nozdormu. There is such a possibility that it is not for 10.1
But some reagents are collected from Fyrakk's disciples, so this should be part of Fyrakk's assault
upper pasture
yeah who knows. i've done everything except for the raid so far on my evoker and haven't seen anything yet. so it's sorta just a waiting game
solar veldt
Looks cool but I don’t see any major spoilers there
harsh mason
Everyone has their own important spoilers. For some, the fact what there will be Nozdormu is a spoiler. In any case, these are all spoilers, so that's what they write
I understand that because of datamining, many things are already known, but it's not official, which means spoilers. A lot of people try to avoid it all
solar veldt
Yeah true, maybe we are all too used to spoilers regarding WoW new content
ionic terrace
ember blaze
Based on datamined dialogues, leaks and datamined quests.
Anything else you can say?
harsh mason
Waiting
harsh mason
Why the old model and not the shadowflame one?
It's not for me to ask. I have this screenshot since December 2022
But I think it doesn't always burn SF. If it controls SF, then it can light up and go out at any time. Either that or a bug. This should be asked directly from Blizzard
tulip sun
Happening today? O.o
somber dock
that looks sexy
uncut vault
Happening today? O.o
probably tomorrow after they release the what's next blog
rain cave
things moving fast
deep pawn
We have to see 3 ptrs and another RWF between now and November
austere gazelle
So what we have to expect?
- Tyr next quest ( I think the mega dungeon might be related to this )
- Blue Dragonflight storyline
- Rebel stuff
no way all of those are coming next week at the same time.
ember blaze
So what we have to expect?
- Tyr next quest ( I think the mega dungeon might be...
evoker storyline
austere gazelle
and this ^^ yeah
crystal pond
they will probably split all this content so that it goes gradually
it will be stupid if all of this goes into the next patch and not this one
solar veldt
How many raids do you think will have this expansion in total? 3? And still Iridikron is not the final boss so he might be still the villain in next expansion ? 🤨
harsh mason
in fact, they can easily add some storylines to the mini-patch. As has been said many times, 10.x.5 is the epilogues of a major patch, and 10.x.7 is the prologue for the next patch
harsh mason
How many raids do you think will have this expansion in total? 3? And still Irid...
well, if 10.2 is the last patch, then there will be 3 raids. But obviously not
Before the BfA, there were always 3 major story raids and several intermediate ones
So everything will depend on the number of patches
I just don't know how DF developers will build a plot. If the Incarnations are the main antagonists, then it is obvious that 2-3 raids will be dedicated to them (Vault, raid in 10.2 and 10.3). If not, then I do not know, the next raid can be about anything
For example, in Pandaria, it was unrealistic to guess that the second raid tier would be dedicated to some Lei Shen
Because the plot raids were not closely related to the main plot-the war of factions
vernal juniper
is the legendary in this patch or not? not clear
harsh mason
is the legendary in this patch or not? not clear
no one knows
vernal juniper
I guess nothing from hc kill of the final boss right?=
harsh mason
I guess nothing from hc kill of the final boss right?=
In heroics, he was killed by several guilds, but the drop chance may be too low. Or it drop only in mythic
vernal juniper
make no sense imho if it is only from mythic, 99% of players will not obtain it
if it is HC, however
plush mortar
and they just gave him a new model
When did saurfang get a new model?
harsh mason
When did saurfang get a new model?
In legion's epilogues
If Abyssian becomes an aspect, it is unlikely to be in 10.1
This whole storyline related to restore the power for Aspects is central to DF
Therefore, it seems to me that all this will be closer to the final. Moreover, if they updated the models for Ebyssian, it would immediately make it clear, but they keep it all a secret.
crystal pond
I hope they will fix Ebyssian writing if they wanting make him an aspect
Because rn big no
tulip sun
I hope they will fix Ebyssian writing if they wanting make him an aspect
Because...
How? He is much better than the other 2
plush mortar
They all have strengths and flaws. Wrathion has saved azaroth several times (sometimes from problems he caused) but hes willing to sacrifice anything and anyone i#to reach his goals. Sabelion is a great tested leader who saved the outland black dragons but it’s questionable how many atrocities he committed willingly and not under corruption. Ebonhorn is a great advisor who does not seek power or to rule over other but he is a coward.
Im team ebonhorn but my money is on emberthal
She has many of the strengths of the others but non of the flaws as i can tell.
crystal pond
How? He is much better than the other 2
Thats the thing
They pushing Sabellian and Wrathion so bad because they trying to make Ebyssian look good in everybody eyes
But its actually making it worse
He is literally perfect wtf
No mistakes in this patch
If they was balancing between good and bad then i would choose Ebyssian too but hell naah
pulsar minnow
I just don’t like how they undid all of Wrathion’s character just to make way for Ebyssian
Whatever happened to “You’re the only brother I have”
Now he’s just “NUH UH NOT MY FAULT!!”
crystal pond
Sabellian is bad too
"Lol you just a fodder for me too Wrathion"
And before that there is a quest that "ye he is a bich but he is my brother so check on him pls"
Wtf???
silent urchin
they're both just doing the tsundere "It's not like I like you or anything" meme
crystal pond
I honestly dont understand why someone in blizzard team decided that it would be good for Ebyssian to become an aspect when alot of people wanted him to become advisor of new black aspect
In bfa he was so good as advisor
He domt want to rule but he want to help
And now "yeah he dont want to rule so its perfect for that role"
Stop please omg
silent urchin
the whole point of the story this patch seems to be them getting over their insecurities around each other, that are being driven to extremes by the echoes of neltharion/old gods, and realising that they all complement each other and work best together
pretty sure there isn't going to be one aspect, it'll be all three in some way
crystal pond
Yeah i hope that too
obtuse vine
Do we know when to expect the blue post?
silent urchin
nothing specific, probably 2-5 hours
upper pasture
my guess would be between 12-3pm pst
but that's being hopeful 😛
it will likely be like 4pm or 5pm pst
harsh mason
I just don’t like how they undid all of Wrathion’s character just to make way fo...
Wrathion has always been a silly guy. I don't understand how you can ignore everything he did and how he did it.
After what point did people decide: "yes, he will definitely be an aspect"????
austere gazelle
Equip: Your Empower spells activate the Order magic within, releasing a sphere of Order that seeks a powerful ally, increasing their primary stat by 500 and Speed by 600 for 10 sec.
Is this me or this legendary could be the first step to introduce the fabled support Spec of the Dracthyr ?
pulsar minnow
After what point did people decide: "yes, he will definitely be an aspect"????
Are you talking about Wrathion or Ebyssian?
jaunty phoenix
Did you guys get the impression that maybe they’re setting up for Wrathion, Ebyssian and Sebellion all to pave way for Emberthal being the next aspect? Crossed my mind seeing Sebellion constantly refer to the Dracthyr as inconsequential while he and his brother are clearly going through growth arcs.
deep pawn
It'd be interesting
austere gazelle
" There will be only one Aspect "
Maybe the Dracthyr, who embodies the magic of all the flight, will become the new " Aspect "
crystal pond
Dracthyr as independent aspect is fine
But as black aspect???
jaunty phoenix
I guess it could go either way. Their fate is tied to the black dragonflight in particular and it seems to me like they’re building up toward Sebellion eating his words in the most dramatic way possible.
austere gazelle
Dracthyr are mortal + dragon DNA mixed by Neltharion, would make sense to have a new " mortal race " taking the seat of the Aspects by becoming the only Dragon Aspect while the original one concede their places
jaunty phoenix
I like that idea too. Like you said, they do embody the magic of every flight
austere gazelle
That would also explain why Nozdormu is helping them. He knows what will happen. He knows that they will have an important role to play
And it's an Infinite Dragon dude that said " There will only be one Aspect "
jaunty phoenix
It also follows the motif of ages coming and going. Age of aspects paved way for age of mortals during cata, maybe the next step is dragons paving the way for Dracthyr and ceding their place to them.
crystal pond
And it's an Infinite Dragon dude that said " There will only be one Aspect "
They was talking about murozond
Because at the end time he was the only one aspect
austere gazelle
They was talking about murozond
Maybe not, that might be the trick :p
We will see anyway ^^
crystal pond
Ye
dense plover
3rd spec baby!
YO
SO GOOD
KALIMDOR DRAGON RIDING
"The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, have worked hard to see their ultimate goal of triggering the transformation of Nozdormu, the Aspect of Time, into Murazond. This eight-boss Mythic-only mega-dungeon will take players across the timeways to stop the Infinite Dragonflight from succeeding. You’ll face Iridikron and Galakrond, among others, as you work to sustain Azeroth’s timeline and put things to rights once more."
"Eon’s Fringe
Undertake new repeatable content in Eon’s Fringe as you work to settle the timeways and solve the problems brought about by their instability while reaping the rewards of a job well done." - sounds like a new small zone
"the Warlock class will become available to Night Elves, Draenei, Lightforged Draenei, Pandaren, Kul Tiran, Tauren, Highmountain Tauren, Mag’har Orcs, and Zandalari Trolls.
Warlocks will also be able to undertake a new quest line starting with the quest "Beginning Impositions,” which will unlock a new imp pet customization. Players will also be able to visit the Barbershop to customize their pets."
ivory meadow
yeah
dense plover
new ability sample and new talents sample
i assume base evoker tree will also get some of the abilities
also the 8 man dungeon has us fighting galakrond and iridikron as dungeon bosses
so i think when we fight iridikron as the final raid boss, its going to be completely different - im assuming this will be in the past so he will be much weaker
upper pasture
its real T.T i'm so happy
mossy meteor
The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, have worked hard to see their ultimate goal of triggering the transformation of Nozdormu, the Aspect of Time, into Murazond. This eight-boss Mythic-only mega-dungeon will take players across the timeways to stop the Infinite Dragonflight from succeeding. You’ll face Iridikron and Galakrond, among others, as you work to sustain Azeroth’s timeline and put things to rights once more.
dense plover
yeah
its thursday
ofc ptr today
cant fix problems over the weekend
so launch today and fix before the weekend
brave nymph
damn 101.5 is hype, i can't wait to face galakrond tbh
but i do hope we also face him as a raid boss maybe, idk
harsh mason
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23951678/in-development-fracture...
He looks cool. I'm glad they left him a lot of eyes
dense plover
omg i didnt even notice
not necessarily evil chromie
could just be an alt timeline
the colors dont look 'infinite'
dense plover
uh
rain cave
infinites aren't pure white
rain cave
dense plover
this is a totally different color scheme
rain cave
dense plover
also theyve never done infinites having mortal forms
rain cave
dense plover
so thats another reason to think it isnt that
rain cave
also theyve never done infinites having mortal forms
also true, was going to mention this
but I think it lines up with the infinite color scheme
brave nymph
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23951678/in-development-fracture...
is this the galakrond we are gonna face or what 🤔
on the pic
rain cave
reminds me of the GW2 dragon stuff
which is what that game did best imo
also draenei warlocks incoming
finally
we can play a true eredar
brave nymph
i wonder if were gonna fight like just his head, or if were gonna fight him like him standing on all 4
rain cave
the way gw2 dealt with giant boss dragons was like that, having his head for one phase, maybe having to trigger something else to clip wings or somesuch
dense plover
potentially deathwing style
brave nymph
i mean he does look cool tho
dense plover
maybe even fighting galakrond as multiple bosses
rain cave
Bestow Weyrnstone
Conjure a pair of Weyrnstones, one for your target ally and one for yourself. A weyrnstone can be activated by the bearer to transport them to the other Weyrnstone's location if they are within 100 yds.
brave nymph
let's get that right
rain cave
hey look new warlock gate
dense plover
ie body as one boss, head as another
rain cave
also
JOIN TOGETHER FOR TIME RIFTS
The time streams have become a bit more unstable with recent events and as the boundaries between the timelines weaken, minions from other timelines have begun making their way into Azeroth. Players will join together to take on Time Rifts, push back against the waves of minions, and plug the hole to set the timeways straight again.
EON’S FRINGE
Undertake new repeatable content in Eon’s Fringe as you work to settle the timeways and solve the problems brought about by their instability while reaping the rewards of a job well done.
if this is the new visions/torghast/deaths of chromie style scenario but made as a viable piece of content for fun and gearing with their new ideaology
count me in
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
but we just need to wait for ptr to find out
press kit images
looks like 10.1.5 is going to be the adamantia stuff
what an image
"time lost battlefield"
"manifested timeways"
rain cave
Breath of Eons
1.5 minute cooldown. Replaces Deep Breath.
Fly to the targeted location, exposing Temporal Wounds on enemies in your path for 10 sec. Temporal Wounds accumulate a portion of damage dealt by your allies, and then critically strike the enemy for that amount at the end of the duration. Increases the duration of your active Ebon Might effects.
rain cave
can't wait for people to cheese this
rain cave
would be interesting to see if these new things have some design elements that are more friendly to the new spec, like more directly
dense plover
concept art
rain cave
as in, augmentation evokers being able to buff chromie in the fight lmao
dense plover
rain cave
doubt it but
dense plover
infinite tyr!
rain cave
ye the hair's the right color when you see it close up
dense plover
rain cave
infinite tyr!
that's really cool and has some crazy implications actually
rain cave
since to me it links the idea of the bronze being connected to the light more explicitly
rain cave
where you getting those from @dense plover
I can't find any links on the official posts or wowhead
brave nymph
where did y'all get these
crystal pond
We gonna fight iridikron or what? 👀
crystal pond
Pogs
dense plover
rain cave
definetly implies that when we fight him in our current time
dense plover
from the timelost battle
dense plover
where you getting those from <@117691857911152645>
press kit - i linked it before i started
brave nymph
i guess galakrond will be the last boss
dense plover
i guess galakrond will be the last boss
probably after galakrond tbh
rain cave
i expect him to be super empowered
hoping he'll end up being this absolutely monstrous amalgam
dense plover
since galakrond is on the ground behind
rain cave
almost falling apart at the seams with how much shit he's on
that's what I'm expecting iridikron to end up as
harsh mason
Well, people have already decided that we are killing Iridikron in mega dungeon
upper pasture
maybe it's an alt timeline Iridikron
but no way it's our Iridikron or that we actually kill him
brave nymph
ye
upper pasture
blizzard really be super nice to us. i'm wondering if this is gonna carry to 11.0 well lol
harsh mason
This is also possible, but in the screenshots it is in visage form against the background of a very interesting disk
So I'm sure it's our Iridikron, but we won't kill it. Just the first fight with him.
brave nymph
tbh i'm so excited for this mega dungeon
upper pasture
YES same. literally my favorite thing is bronzeflight/infinite flight. prolly because the CoT was like the first stuff i really liked in WoW
rain cave
I'm gonna put a random bet on my bingo card there's going to be an item that switches between infinite and bronze states with its unique effect
even if it's as simple as a rotating haste/vers buff lmao
brave nymph
one item will be galakrond transformation
"Use: become galakrond, ez win, ez race to world first win"
upper pasture
ptr is coming up today is the word on the street ya?
brave nymph
100%
rain cave
something's not adding up if you look at this iridikron fight as an alternate version of him
I'm thinking this is one of his bargains
and he's trying to collect something from galakronds corpse here
to take back with him
there's that device in the background being protected by him https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1107970.jpg
it's purple too...
dense plover
and he's trying to collect something from galakronds corpse here
thats not a corpse
it has eyes
rain cave
it has eyes
corpses have eyes too
dense plover
but theyre open right before we fight iridikron
rain cave
alternatively, if he's trapped there
austere gazelle
Iridikron went into the past to get Galakrond to the present and we have to stop him
rain cave
but theyre open right before we fight iridikron
corpses can have open eyes
dense plover
no theyre closed in one image
rain cave
but fine lets assume he's just trapped
dense plover
then open in another
rain cave
he's trapped in ice yo
rain cave
vyranoth froze the guy?
rain cave
yeah it's the past
austere gazelle
Maybe what we know about the lore is wrong, and the Incarnate were fighting Galakrond along with the soon to be Aspects
rain cave
just wondering if iridikron & co are here because they want to get something from galakrond
austere gazelle
and they were written out of the story
austere gazelle
the soon to be incarnates then :p
frozen zealot
Methinks this coming patch will be also be when Nozdormu turns into Murozond, that purple artefact is probably something void related that will be used to resurrect Galakrond but iridikron has to go to the moment just after the aspects killed him in order to do so
rain cave
the soon to be incarnates then :p
then he wouldn't be rock
dense plover
Methinks this coming patch will be also be when Nozdormu turns into Murozond, th...
i mean - it is
we know it is
they say in the blog
rain cave
---> "dawn of the infinite" <-----
dense plover
we know murozond's creation is in this patch/dungeon
austere gazelle
then he wouldn't be rock
he would, Incarnate does not means you are suddenly a dragon attuned with a specific elements. We have ancient protodragon in the waking shore that are of different element types
dense plover
"The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, have worked hard to see their ultimate goal of triggering the transformation of Nozdormu, the Aspect of Time, into Murozond. This eight-boss Mythic-only mega-dungeon will take players across the timeways to stop the Infinite Dragonflight from succeeding. You’ll face Iridikron, among others, as you work to sustain Azeroth’s timeline and put things to rights once more."
we are trying to stop them
my guess is we dont'
frozen zealot
I wonder if we’ll get a tug in the feels moment of Chromie getting tearful when Nozdormu turns
austere gazelle
"The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, ha...
Or, as usual, we defy the logic and we prevent them to do so, and postpone this event to a later date somehow 🤷
rain cave
he would, Incarnate does not means you are suddenly a dragon attuned with a spec...
he's literally made of rock
austere gazelle
he's literally made of rock
I dunno if its relevant to something. We don't know how the incarnates came to be nor what they looked like prior this anyway. But there was a time were they weren't Incarnate
dense plover
we dont know that actually
austere gazelle
we do
The Primal Incarnates are ancient proto-dragons who refused the gift of the titans and stand opposed dragonkind, wishing to cleanse the world of the stain of the Pantheon.[1] Analogous to the Aspects of the dragonflights,[2] Raszageth the Storm-Eater, Iridikron the Stonescaled, Vyranoth the Frozenheart, and Fyrakk the Blazing lead a group of followers called the Primalists, who turned to the elements and became infused with their primal power.
Ancient proto-dragons [...} who turned to the elements and became infused with their primal power.
dense plover
but we dont know when that happened
austere gazelle
as I was saying yes ^^
dense plover
that couldve happened before the aspect stuff
or it could be that they used a portion of dying galakrond's power
austere gazelle
Yep, we barely know anything on how it happened
dense plover
and siphoned that off
austere gazelle
But there was a time were Iridikron wasn't made of Rocks
dense plover
yes'
im wrong
they clearly tell us that so i appreciate the source
dont think we will see it though
austere gazelle
that'd be a shame :x I'm secretly hoping we will because it should be linked with Azeroth somehow
harsh mason
but we dont know when that happened
20,000 years ago. It was a response to the other dragons accepting the Titans' gift.
That is, it was after Galakrond was killed
That's why I think it's an Iridikron from our time
austere gazelle
Dunno who gave those Incarnates that " gift "' though.. I'm assuming its not something that can happen to any proto drakes or else ....
We'll have thousands of Incarnates running amok
dense plover
That's why I think it's an Iridikron from our time
so im not sure about this - mainly because i dont think the infinites would work with the primalists/incarnates
so i think this is more likely to be how they BECAME incarnates
ie - shortly after galakrond's fall, they siphon his power
austere gazelle
so im not sure about this - mainly because i dont think the infinites would work...
Unless Iridikron seize the occasion to bring back Galakrond as a desperate measure
dense plover
they wouldnt do that in a mega dungeon
austere gazelle
ie - shortly after galakrond's fall, they siphon his power
It's very likely
dense plover
too big of a moment for a thing not everyone will see
thats why i think its how the incarnates get their power
because if you go from 10.2 to 10.3 without seeing that, it doesnt change the overall story
austere gazelle
Maybe that's the " terrible bargain " Alex mentionned
crystal pond
If this megadungeon without dragonriding i will be disappointed
austere gazelle
Those Draenei Warlocks ( and Lightforged Draenei Warlock ) raises a lot of interesting implication
It's basically the return of the Eredar
I hoped it would happen some day, so I guess we will have some lore introduction and returning figure of the Burning Legion that will make amend and join Azeroth somehow
dense plover
hope they add the skin tones to match
austere gazelle
( Because I don't see how a current Draenei will accept to turn to the Fel Art after all they have been through )
austere gazelle
Moreover, there was a " Legion " reputation that shown up last patch
still there btw
we don't know if its the " burning legion " but with the unfolding announcement
hyped
Oh noes, it's actually a bug 😄 When you have all the Legion reputation to inactive, the Legion section turns to this
harsh mason
so im not sure about this - mainly because i dont think the infinites would work...
He could just take advantage of the moment. Because here he is in visage form
Anyway, we'll find out soon
glass flicker
So.
This guy gets to be the end boss of a raid.
But Iridikron, supposedly the most dangerous primal incarnate, and Galakrond the reason why the Dragon Aspects exist, are dungeon bosses?
Pathetic.
If they die, I'm gonna be pissed.
harsh mason
The most dangerous now is Fyrakk. But I am sure that the Iridikron will not die (if it is our Iridikron, and not from the past)
I really hope they work without crunches. Because there is really a lot of content (the last time in such a period of time so much was released in the Legion, but there was much more time because of Draenor)
austere gazelle
Galakrond has been removed as an encounter apparently in the description. It's more " The fallout following Galakrond's demise " plot
glass flicker
Iridikron and Galakrond better not die in a dungeon, Blizzard. Don't treat them worse than you did Ner'zhul in WoD.
upper pasture
galakrond has already been dead tho
glass flicker
Don't care. He is the reason the Dragon Aspects exist. Being in a dungeon is insulting.
Especially if he dies.
brave nymph
wait what, were not fighting galakrond?
harsh mason
Iridikron and Galakrond better not die in a dungeon, Blizzard. Don't treat them ...
He's already dead, it's his corpse
glass flicker
Don't care. We've fought lesser bosses in a raid.
harsh mason
wait what, were not fighting galakrond?
No one knows. But to be honest, I hope not.
glass flicker
Especially Sarkareth. He gets to be a final boss, but Galakrond isn't even an introductory raid boss?
It's just insulting. They better do a Kael'thas and put him in a raid later.
brave nymph
we'll see on ptr soon
harsh mason
Especially Sarkareth. He gets to be a final boss, but Galakrond isn't even an in...
Sarkareth got drunk on juice from void. We had raid bosses much weaker from the point of view of lore
glass flicker
Excuse me while I put Aggrammar and Argus on farm. Two literal titans. Fought back to back.
upper pasture
is Sarkareth the final boss or maybe we have secret mythic only boss removes tinfoil hat okay i don't actually believe that but we have to remember Sarkareth and Fyrakk were distractions for Iridikron's goals
obtuse vine
Especially Sarkareth. He gets to be a final boss, but Galakrond isn't even an in...
https://twitter.com/aramisx/status/1656733419630657537?s=46&t=xCU5PEs1yQwL9rCJRzfUXg Galakrond won’t be a boss
Twitter
harsh mason
is Sarkareth the final boss or maybe we have secret mythic only boss *removes ti...
Hardly, as for me. We had regular bosses like Blackhand or Cho'gall.
I mean, in terms of strength, Raszageth was stronger
rain cave
people are being too quick to anger
pulsar minnow
Galakrond in general is a logistic nightmare of a fight
How do you have 20 adventurers kill this mountain-sized flying dragon with toothpicks
glass flicker
Yay, they didn't fuck Galakrond up. Let's have a pint.
rain cave
just because the incarnates and galakrond are in a dungeon doesn't mean anything negative
look at halls of reflection, we 'fought' arthas there
but he was still the end boss
we fought teron gorefiend in the wod dungeon
but he was also in HFC
harsh mason
Galakrond is literally a huge flying rock that eats everything in its path. As for me, he can't be a raid boss. It's not really clear how to fight him at all. Making a second Deathwing spin?
But again, I don't see the point in his return, he's a wild beast, he's not intelligent
rain cave
one thing I've noticed is that currently, they seem to be allowing the story to progress with world content too
harsh mason
But he can be the boss, I don't deny it
rain cave
fyrakk assaults, for example
lets say in this dungeon, we take a loss at the end
that we stop something but not the whole thing
lets say for arguments sake, iridikron has made a bargain with the infinite, and he's in the timeways using them as a distraction to gather something from galakrond's fresh corpse/trapped body.
harsh mason
lets say for arguments sake, iridikron has made a bargain with the infinite, and...
I think so too
rain cave
we go in, and maybe we by the end of the dungeon have quelled the infinite threat somewhat, even if murozond becomes infinite, maybe by the end infinite isn't a blanket term for "bad guys"
but iridikron still gets away, maybe upon his goal being achieved some of the infinites realize they've been duped
who knows
rain cave
well he's either infusing something or extracting something with that device he's protecting
harsh mason
As I understand it, since the Iridikron is completely stone, it does not feed in the usual way, most likely it absorbs the essence
rain cave
if he was extracting for himself, he'd probably munch it. So to me it would make sense at a glance for him to either be: extracting some sort of essence for some other person/purpose, or he is infusing galakrond with something
the device itself to me has a similar design language as some of the things in aberrus
with the purple + draconic titany design
we know aberrus was all about infusing things
so perhaps, it's a device from aberrus he's using to either take the essence of galakrond for some other purpose, or to infuse galakrond with something already in there
harsh mason
I think he collects the essence for his own purposes (well, or for the purposes of Incarnations).
rain cave
I mean, if we wanted to do the association game
yogg saron explicitly named as the cause of galakrond -> yogg saron created the emerald nightmare -> datamined emerald dream glaive and tree cinematic -> iridikron exctracting essence of a creature infused by yogg saron in the leadup patches to what we think is someting emerald dream related
so there's definetly some thematic links going on in my mind, even if those things aren't all tied in one direct story
dense plover
But Iridikron, supposedly the most dangerous primal incarnate, and Galakrond the...
to be clear - if this is current time iridikron (i dont think it is), i dont think we would kill him here
glass flicker
Good.
dense plover
the story of the mega dungeon is unlikely to be very directly significant since only a small portion of the player base will see it
glass flicker
Don't kill characters with potential pls. He is the first cautious WoW bad guy I can recall.
rain cave
I think it will be
dense plover
mega dungeons have never had super important stories
rain cave
we won't kill him in the dungeon motivated
rain cave
mega dungeons have never had super important stories
wasn't karazhan's pretty important
glass flicker
We better not.
dense plover
wasn't karazhan's pretty important
dont think so
rain cave
even then
dense plover
wasnt it just 'demons are in karazhan and thats bad!'?
rain cave
I think it's our iridikron
wouldn't make sense if it was an alternate timeline one imo
unless maybe this is like a in the past version of him, where we see him doing something before he got locked up
one of those bargains alex talked about
but then that's not alternate, that's just past version
dense plover
"new, fearsome Legion commander, known as Viz'aduum the Watcher, who intends to anchor the tower into the Twisting Nether and turn it into a second major gateway for the Burning Legion to flood Azeroth with their unholy forces. " this was the story of the karazhan dungeon - absolutely no effect on the overall legion story
i expect that to be the case here
dense plover
although its also very likely that the mega dungeon gets split into 2 and will be part of the dungeons for season 3
rain cave
because murozond
dense plover
thats assuming they succeed
and that it happens in the dungeon
and not the time rifts/story quests
rain cave
who says they have to succeed
dense plover
the dungeon description?
dense plover
"The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, have worked hard to see their ultimate goal of triggering the transformation of Nozdormu, the Aspect of Time, into Murozond. This eight-boss Mythic-only mega-dungeon will take players across the timeways to stop the Infinite Dragonflight from succeeding. You’ll face Iridikron, among others, as you work to sustain Azeroth’s timeline and put things to rights once more."
this heavily implies that should we succeed, it doesnt happen
harsh mason
mega dungeons have never had super important stories
Uhm...legion. Karazhan was literally supposed to be used there as a second point for an invasion, but we were able to prevent it
dense plover
also it implies that the timelines are broken
dense plover
Uhm...legion. Karazhan was literally supposed to be used there as a second point...
and if you went through all of legion but skipped the dungeon, it didnt matter
since it wasnt used like that
rain cave
"The Infinite Dragonflight, long-standing enemies of the Bronze dragonflight, ha...
I'm always open to the plotline that nozdormu becomes murozond for some other reason
dense plover
is the story relevant? yes, but it wasnt significant to the outcome of Legion
i think that iridikron is from an alternate timeline or from the past
rain cave
for me I think it's either past or current
dense plover
i think its very possible we see how the incarnates gain their power and this would be it, which while cool, doesnt change the flow of the overall story
rain cave
I believe alternate would just be too confusing
dense plover
I believe alternate would just be too confusing
end time exists
glass flicker
I hope it's past Iridikron talking to infinite Chromie about bringing Galakrond to the present to wreak havoc on Azeroth.
deep pawn
Imagine if stopping the transformation still causes it by splitting all Bronze into Infinites
rain cave
end time exists
iridikron isn't in end time
deep pawn
like antimatter
dense plover
iridikron isn't in end time
no im saying alternate timeline stuff has been done before
all the caverns of time stuff as well
rain cave
end time was potential future
dense plover
a potential future is 100% an alternate timeline by definition
rain cave
the only alternate timeline stuff we've had is the bronze quests directly tackling them
rain cave
but those were obvious
dense plover
just like how the caverns of time stuff is dungeons
rain cave
everyone's murlocs
rain cave
caverns of time isn't alternate timelines
dense plover
did you never do the stuff there?
rain cave
it's us defending our timeline
upper pasture
which are potential alt timelines
rain cave
we go back, save thrall, medivh, arthas, etc
to make sure our timeline isn't affected
but I'm saying we aren't seeing alternate version in those dungeons
we're seeing past versions
upper pasture
cause if we don't defend them it creates paradoxes
rain cave
alternate galakrond would look different somehow imo
if it's just after galakrond's defeat, whilst his corpse is still writhing because of how wretched it is
why is iridikron an incarnate already
there's so many potentially weird things from an alternate
if it's an alternate, what's different? did the incarnates win?
upper pasture
because it's either ours from current timeline or alt iridikron. i'd say it's ours and he gets away at the end
rain cave
did galakrond not die?
are the aspects not present?
if you're doing alternate timeline stories usually it has to be evident which is the alternate timeline if you want it to be easy to follow
e.g. everyone's murlocs, or the orcs didn't drink fel blood
so my expectation is our galakrond, either from the past or present, is tampering with galakronds corpse. If it's past, perhaps this is the point in the past where he was getting imprisoned, and we're correcting that part of the timeline (to stop the infinites from undoing it). If it's present, perhaps he's using the chaos of the timeways and infinite to slip in and do something he needs to do
(to elaborate on the past, maybe this is why alex knew of the weird bargains but they still won, she caught him in the act of trying to do something to galakrond, who is a widely reviled disgusting being)
need more info obv, but I think that if they want the story to be easy to follow, as well as stay in line with what they're going for. that's the routes they will take, in broad strokes
dense plover
OH WAIT
WHAT IF ITS PAST IRIDIKRON
AND THATS WHY HE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF?
dense plover
thats why he has been so meticulous with his plans
why he is so careful to avoid us
rain cave
he and nzoth are like "yo these people are fucking nuts"
upper pasture
oh, our Iridikron is from the past
dense plover
because he lost to us before
rain cave
also explains why he's so straight to the point after getting busted out lmao
dense plover
oh, our Iridikron is from the past
im saying that the iridikron in the dungeon is from 20k years ago when galakrond was killed and is the galakrond for our current timeline
just that 20,000 years have passed
rain cave
man thinks he's the thinker
upper pasture
and that's why ours is so cautious around us
upper pasture
i mean that could be it
dense plover
because we fought him before, and until that dungeon, we dont know that
he has the advantage because he fought us when he was so much weaker and younger
upper pasture
yeah and it's not like he'd let us know that willingly
upper pasture
"oh i remember yall you kicked my ass 20k years ago"
upper pasture
"oh wait...no i kill yall"
dense plover
i very much think its a thing where iridikron of 20k years ago has no idea why we are fighting him
and then bronze flight has to stop us
because iridikron cant die in the past
or the present doesnt happen
upper pasture
so that means 1000% infinite are behind all this
dense plover
which could explain why iridikron seems to regard nozdormu with more respect than the other aspects
i think he does at least
upper pasture
and noz will become muro by the end of DF
upper pasture
yeah, i'd expect as much
dense plover
its too late for murozond to be a big bad since we know thats iridikron, and he deserves to be the final boss of a raid
upper pasture
i'd hate so see that happen and be dealt with in one or two patches
dense plover
ideally either final raid or first raid
exactly
raszageth was a one patch villain but the primalists didnt disappear
murozond is the iridikron equivalent
upper pasture
but a whole expansion of infinite would be amazing
but im a big bronze/infinite supporter
dense plover
theres a lot they can do with that
upper pasture
oh 100%
dense plover
no way to start to know until we get the ptr tho
upper pasture
anywho 10.1.5 is a huge win. for me at least
plain violet
I find your theory really interesting.
upper pasture
DF has been sooo good to the players in my eyes
plain violet
The PTR should start today, isn't it?
upper pasture
i was so excited earlier i thought ptr was already up and tried to log over and look at the evoker spec lol
and we're so close to getting blizzcon news too
harsh mason
anywho 10.1.5 is a huge win. for me at least
In fact, there is enough content for a mini-patch. In addition to the new specialization and dungeon, there is also a new type of invasions, quests and Whelp Daycare
It seems like a small thing, but in fact it's still content
upper pasture
and the lock stuff
new races and new stuff for pets
i really wonder if that cause of all these good things that are happening are in relation of the player council thingy or blizz really do be finally listening to their player base
harsh mason
everyone was discussing Iridikron and Galakrond, but I was more interested in this
pulsar minnow
everyone was discussing Iridikron and Galakrond, but I was more interested in th...
What is this from?
harsh mason
What is this from?
Official concept art. Blizzard posted for the press
crystal pond
Hold up
Remember the discs at the start? What if we will got them back but they will be insfused with infinite magic because of time-stuff
silent urchin
pulsar minnow
https://blizzard.gamespress.com/World-of-Warcraft-Dragonflight-Fractures-in-Time...
Damn I completely missed that
Thanks!
I really hope with augmentation we can also unlock emberthal’s armor color
And her scale color
crystal pond
I hope this time blizzard will finally show us what "the cosmos devided will not survive" Thing will happen in future that even turned Nozdormu to Murozond
pulsar minnow
Honestly I just hope blizzard just pretends shadowlands never happened
It’s such a mess
crystal pond
But it did happen because Ysera is here and tree too
harsh mason
I hope this time blizzard will finally show us what "the cosmos devided will not...
So it's literally that all forces are fighting for dominance
crystal pond
So it's literally that all forces are fighting for dominance
But
They always was doing it?
harsh mason
Like, Zovaal wanted death to rule, Void Lords want Void to rule, and so on. And in the middle of this shit is Azeroth
crystal pond
I think its something with azeroth awakening but it will turns out that azeroth will go into kill them all mode that even "darkness will seek for the light" Or something
I forgot where the text coming from about the end of the world/univers
ionic terrace
silent urchin
No PTR notes yet :(
did they say anything more about the kalimdor dragonriding grand prix anywhere?
harsh mason
I think its something with azeroth awakening but it will turns out that azeroth ...
Oh yes, it's possible too
upper pasture
no 😦
ionic terrace
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-fractures-in-time-ptr-development-notes/1587226
silent urchin
oooh
upper pasture
All restrictions for unlocking Allied Races have been removed, with the exception of a level requirement.
All Allied Races can now be unlocked once you have a level 40 character on your account (was level 50).
huge
silent urchin
mount skills all automatic and I assume free?
upper pasture
Garrison Hearthstone and Dalaran Hearthstone are now toys. THANK YOU
silent urchin
two free bag slots \o/
Frozen Runes can now be found along the walls of Naxxramas for players interested in crafting legacy Frost Resist patterns.``` SELL SELL SELLChromie Time expansion restrictions have been removed.
silent urchin
nothing about kalimdor grand prix in ptr notes :(
silent urchin
Probably still got some time til servers are up
unless you're going data spelunking
upper pasture
oh yeah baby
silent urchin
in kalimdor?
ionic terrace
yeah
silent urchin
I'm mostly curious if it's opening up dragonriding there in full, or if there are event limitations
upper pasture
my bet is we will get both types of flying
ionic terrace
there's some EK ones too
candid ruin
Characters now learn the appropriate mount riding skill upon reaching the appropriate level without needing to visit a mount trainer: 
another RPG element removed
ionic terrace
Memory of Scholomance
Perform a ritual with Eva's Journal.
Unlocks the Memory of Scholomance
Wards of the Dread Citadel
Empower your Argent Dawn Commission.
Unlocks ancient secrets within Naxxramas
so ZG treatment
silent urchin
👀 are they restoring the old instances
ah
replica t3 maybe
new story/legendary quest icon
and yes it pushed old BFA stuff I hadn't done
ionic terrace
locks not in yet
silent urchin
new questline from nozdormu
dense plover
"Garrison Hearthstone and Dalaran Hearthstone are now toys."
biggest win
that means theyre account wide now!
silent urchin
new animations for when spells come off cooldown or start glowing
dense plover
"The maximum level in Chromie Time is now 61 (was level 60).
Chromie Time expansion restrictions have been removed."
good chromie time changes
ionic terrace
dense plover
"Dragonflight, Shadowlands, and Battle for Azeroth dungeon quests are now also available inside their respective dungeons." - fucking amazing W
"The quest line into Mechagon now starts at level 30 (was level 50)." - mechagon is part of leveling!
normal trail
Is augmentation evoker playable right now on ptr ?
normal trail
Thank you!
dense plover
its the first thing
normal trail
Was wondering
silent urchin
really bad lag on PTR right now, though
obtuse vine
Is there a dungeon journal for the new dungeon?
normal trail
Yeah yeah but wondered if it was in ptr for me to try
dense plover
Is there a dungeon journal for the new dungeon?
probably not tbh
dense plover
Yeah yeah but wondered if it was in ptr for me to try
patch notes literally say
"available to try on ptr today"
harsh mason
Boss list:
1.Chronikar
2. Manifested Timeways
3. Blight of Galakrond (You dont fight Galakrond directly)
4. Iridikron the Stonescaled
5. Tyr, the Infinite keeper
6. Morchie (Chromie)
7. Time lost Battlefield
8. Chrono-Lord Deios and the Infinite Dragonflight
candid ruin
Yeah yeah but wondered if it was in ptr for me to try
they're always sassy don't take it personally
normal trail
👉👈
candid ruin
download faster
normal trail
<a:letmein:719632262723010640> download faster
Hope the servers aren’t flooded
silent urchin
upper pasture
oh daddy yes
silent urchin
candid ruin
mmo dropped the data mine
silent urchin
get some HUGE buffs from chromie during that fight
silent urchin
Postmaster has gone even more mad and sent me a couple hundred empty mails
candid ruin
upper pasture
oh lord
silent urchin
that's a lot of versatility
upper pasture
i'm so ready
normal trail
that's a lot of versatility
Probably it deals negative dmg
I wanna see someone trying to level it!! Haha
Probably just level as destro
In that case
candid ruin
holy the spell effects for aug is so nice
upper pasture
oh come on ptr
download faster
guess what
WERE GOING BACK
OH NO
The Grand Design (New) - The Jailer sits on the cusp of ultimate victory. Unless stopped, the cosmos will succumb to his power. Map: Sepulcher of the First Ones. Roles: 1-25 damage.
The Jailer's Vanguard (New) - The Jailer's vanguard stands ready to repel any attack. Their lines must be broken to breach the Jailer's sanctum. Map: Sanctum of Domination. Roles: 1-25 damage.
oh wait
maybe this is SLs LFR
whew
silent urchin
pulsar minnow
Holy shit wait
Ebyssian aspect confirmed?
There’s an icon for a dragon that I think is Ebyssian
harsh mason
The Grand Design (New) - The Jailer sits on the cusp of ultimate victory. Unless...
No, he didn't have such abilities there
pulsar minnow
He’s got like lava horns and a nose ring
harsh mason
Tiny
upper pasture
that's the text for the raid queue tho no?
pulsar minnow
And there’s another icon of him pictures next to Noz
silent urchin
yeah it's a pain to get a good screenshot because being near eon's fringe is causing awful FPS lag
silent urchin
there are a lot of mount rewards from timerifts
upper pasture
and it's 1-25 damage for the number of players and role
harsh mason
and it's 1-25 damage for the number of players and role
I do not know, but he did not have such abilities 100%
upper pasture
what abilities are you referring to tho?
harsh mason
The Grand Design (New) - The Jailer sits on the cusp of ultimate victory. Unless...
The Grand Design (New) - The Jailer sits on the cusp of ultimate victory. Unless stopped, the cosmos will succumb to his power. Map: Sepulcher of the First Ones. Roles: 1-25 damage.
The Jailer's Vanguard (New) - The Jailer's vanguard stands ready to repel any attack. Their lines must be broken to breach the Jailer's sanctum. Map: Sanctum of Domination. Roles: 1-25 damage.
harsh mason
Well, or am I stupid
pulsar minnow
Oh
The icon is literally called "Black Aspect's Favor"
And that sure as hell aint wrathion
harsh mason
It was obvious. They will update the model for him
silent urchin
this might be a placeholder
pulsar minnow
It was obvious. They will update the model for him
It’s a badass model fs tho
Cmon, LAVA HORNS
upper pasture
augvoker talent
upper pasture
so it's likely an evoker
harsh mason
pulsar minnow
There’s another one of Noz called “Bronze Aspect’s Favor”
And the one with them both together is called “Aspects Favor”
upper pasture
and it's titled aspect's favor not black aspect's favor
silent urchin
There's a lot of alternate chromies and they're all excellent puns
pulsar minnow
and it's titled aspect's favor not black aspect's favor
No. The one of them together is called that
That one with the black dragon alone is called Black Aspects Favor.
That’s my fault I mixed them up. But yeah that’s a confirmation on Ebyssian as Aspect
silent urchin
There were more than this as well
upper pasture
stopppp
harsh mason
obtuse vine
Their models look soo good
I reckon they will eventually update the fyrakk visage too to make it shadowflamey
silent urchin
Only about 4 quests before it seems like it leads into the dungeon, but that's not in yet
Eon's Fringe is no longer frozen in time
candid ruin
Time Rift: Azmerloth (New) - Map: Northrend > 10.1.5 Time Rifts - Murloc (Azmerloth). Roles: 1 damage. BACK TO AZMERLOTH
dense plover
OH - so eon's fringe is that area with the debuff in the bronze dragon area?
silent urchin
yes
can't really find anything to actually do there yet
some stuff has "resolved" from when it was frozen, but it's clearly meant to be immediately after
lots of it seems unimplemented
... were there always achievements for collecting drake customisations or are those new
upper pasture
they were there
none for the new one on live yet tho
oh the attuements are stances
dense plover
murozond's rise is part of the dungeon
harsh mason
Lol
dense plover
from infinite tyr description
silent urchin
Yeah, but afaik it isn't actually doing anything yet
pulsar minnow
it seems like they're doing it with this patch
silent urchin
and there's no way to toggle it
pulsar minnow
Kalimdor Grand Prix
upper pasture
knew it
dense plover
chronolord deios returning is great
silent urchin
can't mount drakes in kalimdor, regular flying mounts are still regular flying
upper pasture
probs NYI
i've been flying around durotar looking for the DR but i haven't seen it
silent urchin
also sadly they haven't accidentally enabled any of the timegated 10.1 content
It seems like one dragonrace per zone
silent urchin
well, most zones. Not sure there's one for tanaris
16 races and 20ish zones so a couple missing
upper pasture
16 EK and 30 Kali
and each have the 3 types
well.....mmochamps datamined stuff has 16 and 30 races listed.
silent urchin
achievement is only showing 16, although the sub achievements aren't actually visible so maybe the rest are just not connected yet
dense plover
lol - growmie the giant chromie
upper pasture
and kali goes to 30
so 48 and 90 races which include the basic/advance/reverse
so it's likely not all zones have races but a lot of them do
dense plover
chronosaurus - captured on film for the first time
apparently the chromies were brought here
ionic terrace
has anyone checked the evoker starting zone
to see if they did anything for the spec
dense plover
"speculating. you have been fooled"
and then the quest stops right when you meet morchie
or not
theres a dragon that spawns
silent urchin
Quest should stop once you get to chromie and noz at the dungeon entrance
silent urchin
although it's only about 4 quests long
dense plover
well the quest hub stuff isnt in the patch notes for today
the fact that voice acting is done though is significant
means it was recorded a WHILE ago
silent urchin
you get this map if you open it in this area
presumably where the timerift stuff will be?
huh, new rare
rain cave
so that device is definetly voidy
iridikron stealing the essence that corrupted the waters and made galakrond?
so he can reintroduce it in the current timeline?
also, can't wait to play a lightforged warlock xD
dense plover
trying to check something and i guess theyre working on old mounts being compatible because i dont remember the frostbrood protodrake being this small
obtuse vine
upper pasture
I’m really in shock that what I thought was gonna be DF worst feature for me has turned out to be one of my favorite things to look forward to in each patch.
silent urchin
the dragonriding?
upper pasture
Dragon races specifically
I tend to dislike time based racing things but I really enjoy DR so I guess that makes up for it
rain cave
overall dragonriding just makes going to places nearby a bit more interactive
silent urchin
They're (mostly) fairly forgiving
rain cave
long term flying I'd argue old world is nicer since youcan just alt tab and put youtube on, though that's probably a map size issue. And they should add more teleports
silent urchin
that one reverse race in waking shore being an exception
rain cave
but if I need to quickly hop around for gathering, quests or whatever