beta-ptr-spoilers

[uncut vault]

theyre intentionally there, if you mean its presence

to separate the class and spec trees

[deep pawn]

Most are blended in, preservation is very obvious

[silent urchin]

There are so goddamn many weekly quests

25 in the log is not enough

I think I have 6 or 7 alone just from wrathion weeklies

[upper pasture]

7 weeklies or 1 weekly and 6 dailies?

Honestly I wish weeklies didn’t count as quests in the quest log

[silent urchin]

afaik they reset weekly

it's a lot to do if it's daily

They're definitely more minor than the big weekly

although I guess if you really want you could farm a lot of the keys here

[silent urchin]

Oh hey they fixed the crash if you dismount while casting bronze timelock

[willow raptor]

So what's the equivalent of the mission table this go around

[dense plover]

None

[dense plover]

Part of the problem for me is I have a ton of side and dungeon quests - something I probably won’t have when the expac is live because I’ll just do them instead of saving them for later

[willow raptor]

So there's zero source of semi-passive gold or resource income

[dense plover]

Yep

Gotta do the work

[silent urchin]

Yeah I got a bunch of dungeon quests I haven't got around too

plus the two dungeon weeklies

[dense plover]

I abandoned all of them

[willow raptor]

Damn a lot of people are gonna be pissed

[dense plover]

I’m not doing dungeons until it’s live

[dense plover]

It’s healthy for the game

[willow raptor]

Oh, absolutely

If it'd been done right, at least

[dense plover]

Helps limit AH prices when combined with the region wide resource stuff

[willow raptor]

Which, RIP, it wasn't, but it's at least something

[dense plover]

I mean - dailies, weeklies and WQs give good gold

And there are profession quests that also give gold along with profession knowledge

[willow raptor]

Sure

[dense plover]

But nothing big anymore

[willow raptor]

And no passive gold is good

[dense plover]

30-50 at most usually

[willow raptor]

But it's sort of after the cows are already out

[dense plover]

Yeah I like it - less pressure to mess with a system I don’t like

And they’ll probably remove the gold from the SLs ones like they did with previous expacs

[willow raptor]

WoD, Legion, BFA, Shadowlands, all funneling in trillions of gold to people who had 40 characters

[dense plover]

Yeah - best thing they can introduce this expac is a way to get rid of that gold without screwing over everyone else

[willow raptor]

Reduce it, sure, probably low enough to not be worth it, but there's still the issue that it's existed for this long and there just isn't really a gold sink

Now they just need to remove 2x4

[dense plover]

What’s that?

[willow raptor]

Max people who can loot a thing is five

But every person in a group can loot if any one person can loot

[dense plover]

Oh so you have 2 groups of 4?

Idk if that still works with the tagging changes

[willow raptor]

So two groups of four people means 8 total people can loot tagged mobs

[dense plover]

Would have to check

[willow raptor]

I mean, presumably it'd still work

[dense plover]

Might not

The change in the cap is a significant code change

Very possible that is gone

[silent urchin]

2x4 farming will probably still work

the alternative is making the experience feel kinda shitty for people not doing that

[dense plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It’s a much less significant problem than the passive gold table

They absolutely need to create a gold sink though

Getting rid of the gold cap they had made the problem much worse

I just don’t know what they could do to get rid of it

[zenith bobcat]

is the Back to the future quest in dragonflight beta for anyone else? chromie keeps phaseing out before i can the the quest

bugged*

[ancient jasper]

RIP people who used that passive Gold to buy Tokens.

[silent urchin]

There's still a lot of raw gold income

and potentially even more to be made via the AH

I did make pretty disgusting amounts just running a single night fae mission table

I don't think that'll be replicated

[shy light]

ive just been riding the mission board till end of expansion on 3 chars, and I auction off all the mats i get from teh bags (Which STILL sell)

Ive had to earned like something around 30-50k over the last few weeks

[silent urchin]

A lot of mats have dropped to almost vendor price, at least on EU, but it's still kinda decent money

The rune buffs made me a ton, those were at like 3-400g per at some points

[shy light]

auggies are like 252g venedor for me

I dont bother with AH

[silent urchin]

Although I did make the mistake of saving for a raid release at one point, and so did everyone else

actually crashed the price

And yeah, they're close to vendor now

[shy light]

I was actually mind-blown at how easy it was to get augment runes once i started using a mod to properly manage my missionms

and this was all post s4 raid stuff

[silent urchin]

yeah I've used various mods, tl;dr missions is the current and also the best

but venture plan and a few others previously

[shy light]

TLDR is bar none the best

shame we ain't getting another table mechanic.

[silent urchin]

I am not really sad to see it go

[shy light]

eh, free shit if anything

gave me something to do last few weeks

[dense plover]

New brewmaster article is super on point

I disagree with some of their tree choices, but I really HATE weapons of order

[ember blaze]

Thank you

[silent urchin]

Huh.. is the gathering while mounted perk in profession knowledge new?

[glad niche]

Ye

Iirc. It's new with DF. Idk if it applies to all mounts or just the drakes or something.

[silent urchin]

I meant new with recent builds, I don't recall it being there before

[glad niche]

All would be cool. SOMETHING on par with the druid golden child. It's only been what... 60 years?

On ptr or beta? From what I understand I thought it was on beta a while.

I know bellular touched on it in older vids before PTR was live. But I couldn't tell you if it was implemented or not. It might have just been a note about something the devs said they planned

[silent urchin]

ah I guess I just missed it

[silent urchin]

https://i.imgur.com/nreEGEG.png hmm, I'm guessing that's not going to be 30 a week, though

[upper pasture]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/weapon-illusions-on-artifacts-available-soon-after-launch-in-dragonflight-329444

!!!

[ancient jasper]

Here's hoping they remember White/Grey transmogs as well lol

[ember blaze]

Can you post a pic

[deep pawn]

maybe that same patch they mention if it's not 10.0.5

[silent urchin]

https://i.imgur.com/kymixMA.png

it's at the end of the first spec, for mining at least

so pretty easy to get

[deep pawn]

early on it's a trade off between that and higher quality ores

deftness is gathering speed right?

[silent urchin]

Yeah, although this particular spec is +1 skill per point

[ionic terrace]

new ptr build

nvm, looks like not much of anything

[errant prairie]

Hopefully they will put the event to test soon

[shy light]

Hopefully, but they do have a extra 3 weeks of 'breathing room' to fix/prepare

Id say keep a eye out for tomorrow, for any blue posts

[cerulean lava]

I would like this expansion to release at least in December tbh, but they seem to know what they're doing

[zinc furnace]

"they seem to know what they're doing" said nobody ever about blizzard

[coarse quail]

Yesss, yesss! Hope they will also so it with loot, skinning and herbs!

[tropic trail]

Quick question, I see you can specialise in certain aspects of a profession, but can you eventually max out that profession across all areas with enough investment? Is that what the above reward is supposed to show?

So I’m on beta, I thought they were supposed to make it so you can choose to be in dragon form or human form. Still casting abilities and turning into a dragon lmfao I guess I can see the interrupt and push back but besides that was a bit confused also the ones that make you fly in the air makes sense lol

[ancient jasper]

Considering the new Passive they'll likely never let you be in Visage form in Combat.

[upper pasture]

what new passive iron scales?

or whatever it's called

[ancient jasper]

Yep the one where you have 75% increased armor in Dragon form

[upper pasture]

also iirc you can stay in visage form except for when casting the obvs dragon things like flying through the air

or breathing literally fire

[ancient jasper]

Can you? Hm.. Might have to look myself. Haven't tried it

[tropic trail]

Yeah haha just wanted to make sure thought it was some weird bug but yeah that armor passive is ridiculous lol in a good way

[upper pasture]

the armor passive will just be that a passive. it not gonna turn off when we are in visage form

[deep pawn]

you can automatically return to visage out of combat, but that's it

[ancient jasper]

Okay yeah you're right it's just worded "Your Dragon Scales increase your armor by 75%" and we have Scales in Visage form as well so yeah it works in either

[abstract ether]

ooo, it is in herbalism too

[dense plover]

probably not in skinning since you have to kill stuff for that

but i suspect those 2 gathering professions make sense

since they have nodes

[deep pawn]

Let me skin when mounted in popular areas

[abstract ether]

I just checked skinning, no skinning while mounted. apparently skinners make bait and stuff though?

[dense plover]

yeah fishing bait and you can craft an item daily to summon a mob randomly - so far hasnt been very good, but ive only tried twice

[abstract ether]

that stuff usually starts out not very good

but sometimes becomes awesome

[untold fox]

Could someone send me a ss of how hunter's set looks on tauren ? Curious to see how big the helmet is

[uncut vault]

https://youtu.be/iw69EuZWVo0

[ember blaze]

👀

[uncut lintel]

was good

cant wait to see more

[silent urchin]

Dragonflight: Legacies premieres October 25th

Dunno if that's all or just the first

[mossy meteor]

it says episode one

[silent urchin]

ah right, so it did

[upper pasture]

Oh yeah. These always get me pumped

[dense plover]

Looks like 3 episodes I think?

Galakrond, the primalists and either Dracthyr or Neltharion/deathwing/dragon soul/demon soul?

I’m not sure which ones have deathwing and Neltharion

Might be both the Dracthyr one and the primalist one

[candid ruin]

DPS meter coming in game?

https://twitter.com/warcraft/status/1583171309600575491?s=46&t=47IMBHSDowUSwi7oTXO6LQ shows in their tweet

[upper pasture]

nice find, that would be nice to have depending on how it shows for group content

[tropic trail]

I that dual mount is so cute omg

[ember blaze]

is that a dragon with tentacles

[upper pasture]

That’s Deathwing yes

[ember blaze]

oh ok

he had tentacles?

[upper pasture]

Yeah, the last fight in DragonSoul

(That’s what is depicted in your screen grab too. When he fell into the maelstrom and we fought him with the aspects)

[uncut lintel]

how did he grow tenticle

is he related to nzoth

[urban spire]

he started "melting" at the end

the tentacles are like lava tenctacles

[uncut lintel]

so he was made of legit lava

[uncut vault]

Deathwing/Neltharion will be in all three

the topics were given in alpha

Dawn of the Aspects, Neltharion's Downfall, and Origins of the Dracthyr

which will likely be released in that order on tuesday, Dracthyr release day, and xpac release day respectively

[dense plover]

Ah

Well that leaves us several large cutscenes for during the expac

So that’s good

There were 9, they added a 10th in the last build that’s nearly 3 min long

So there’s like 5 long ones, 3 are probably these

[ancient jasper]

I'm extremely curious what "drops" they plan on giving us for watching Twitch Streamers

[errant prairie]

Same

Hopefully they will tell us on tuesday

[deep pawn]

Doubt they will before the 15th

[dense plover]

new vendor2 build

possibly new beta tomorrow before raid testing?

[dense plover]

transmog probably

but could be pets or mounts

which all would later go to the store

[upper pasture]

I don’t think a mount is out of the question here. Don’t we usually get a limited time mount with expansion releases?

[dense plover]

no

they did one for BfA prepatch

[upper pasture]

That was the meat wagon right?

[dense plover]

no

thats from WC3R

or blizzcon

or both?

the BfA mounts were the bat and hippogriff

[uncut lintel]

this will never be true for old things

[upper pasture]

Oh. Hmmm maybe there’s always been a mount given around an expansion.

Not necessarily for the expansion lol

[uncut lintel]

[upper pasture]

Well I guess my point is I believe the 3 drops will likely be transmog/title/mount and in that order

[uncut lintel]

🙏 i hope they atleast look decent and isnt shitty

and mount isnt a horrible recolor

if they do release one

[upper pasture]

Maybe even instead of a mount possibly skins for dragon riding mount

[uncut lintel]

fomo skins

[uncut lintel]

would be nice but nothing can beat the galdiator one

[upper pasture]

Meh, all that stuff is subjective anyhow

[dense plover]

specifically talking about twitch drops

i bet they would

[uncut lintel]

[deep pawn]

just play in china and get all the old mounts

[uncut lintel]

ikr

i might move to china just to get all the old mounts ez

[swift copper]

Do you get to keep covenant abilities after SL?

[dense plover]

Only while in the SLs

Same with SLs legendaries

[swift copper]

Damn that sucks

[dense plover]

And some don’t work with each other

[dense plover]

I mean it wouldn’t really make sense since shadowlands is being added to chromie time

[swift copper]

Yea

[dense plover]

Like - it’s not a mandatory story

So attaching permanent power to it is a bad idea

[swift copper]

Yea it makes sense but I don’t like it lol

I’ve gotten addicted to my class ability

[dense plover]

A good chunk of them are now talents

What class?

And which ability

It might be on your new talent tree depending on your spec

For example brewmaster has weapons of order and bone dust brew

Balance Druid has convoke the spirits and the necrolord one

Death knight has the cool arm one and something else

DH has the sigil and fodder to the flame

[upper pasture]

And the hunt too

[dense plover]

And I think DH also has the night fae charge yeah

I’ve been using that one on beta

I like it more than the other charge ability that they can take

[upper pasture]

Sames

[swift copper]

Pally

[dense plover]

Which covenant?

[swift copper]

Kyrian

[dense plover]

which spec too

Might matter

[swift copper]

Retribution

[upper pasture]

Didn’t that get put into their class tree?

[dense plover]

I think so

[upper pasture]

Divine toll

[dense plover]

A lot of the more fun ones stuck around

I’m a bit sad that faeline stomp isn’t available for brewmaster - while not very strong it’s a lot more thematic and fun than weapons of order

Weapons of order is just “have more mastery and damage/cooldown reduction”

[hollow lark]

Just got into beta and is it just me or is the starting area really foggy? Like There are no vivid colors except for players , feels as if there's a fog filter on

[dense plover]

Which area?

Is your view distance low?

[hollow lark]

the waking shores

[dense plover]

Your view distance is definitely not at max

And what do you define as vivid colors?

It’s literally green and rocky red

I don’t see how you can get more vivid without an acid trip

[hollow lark]

everything is on max

its so weird

[dense plover]

Could be the specific area

Some areas ARE foggy

Ruby life pools is a good example of a location where you can see very far and the water there is an almost toxically bright blue

The zone in general does have some fog in some places so it really depends on your location, but I would definitely say the colors are very vivid

Any brighter and you would be in a cyberpunk setting

[hollow lark]

By vivid I mean comparing the are with zuldazar for example or staglethorn vale. the difference is night and day

[dense plover]

Stranglethorn is lime

It definitely looks plenty bright - it just depends on your area.

It’s not a jungle though

So it shouldn’t look like one

It’s a vibrant rocky sort of oasis like zone

Like a desert but not dry

It isn’t a jungle except in the southern part near the plains

[silent urchin]

I think the design is definitely somewhat less saturated than previous zones. I don't really see anything different in your screenshot compared to what I'm used to seeing myself

[hollow lark]

Ok, will do some more running around - hopefully its just a local foggy area then. Its hard to convey the fogginess with a picture, its kinda more apparent when moving around - like everything is covered with a layer of foggy grayness

[silent urchin]

There is quite a lot of haze for further away things, but that's partly to create the impression of distance rather than a graphical quality thing

[dense plover]

Yeah it’s definitely not all like that

The volcano areas are brighter usually

And the high areas are foggy when looking down but less so when looking out

It increases the sense of scale

[silent urchin]

I think maybe the haze has been turned up recently, actually

It does feel a bit stronger than I remember

[dense plover]

I think they’re trying to fix some of the fps problems

[upper pasture]

Max view distance was insane when I dropped down into korthia and looked back towards the OG maw zone

[dense plover]

They might’ve reduced the new max view distance because of frame rate issues

And so it looks foggier because the view distance decreased slightly

Hard to say for sure

Would need exact location comparisons

I’ll have to see if I have any screenshots from earlier and see if I can revisit those locations to test

[silent urchin]

Potentially

[dense plover]

Won’t happen until tonight

[silent urchin]

I'm wondering if there's some weather effects, actually

[hollow lark]

In general did the Isles look vibrant and well done in your opinion?

[dense plover]

Could also be that

[dense plover]

100%

[hollow lark]

awesome

[dense plover]

I even enjoy Ohanaran plains

The zone I thought I would hate

It might end up tied with azure span as my favorite

It has hills and mountains and sudden cliffs and swamps

I love the marshy swamps in that zone

First non creepy swamps in wow i think

[hollow lark]

Alright. Off to exploring then. Hopefully the fog clears up :D. I just got a bit worried and thought somethings wrong with the game since it looked so weird lol.

[dense plover]

They’ve been messing around with stuff like fog and weather in the zones recently

Mainly because some of the areas with the primalists have localized weather

And the transitions are really sudden

I think they want them to be a bit sudden but not, move a foot snowstorm, backs a foot totally bright and sunny

But again I’ll try and double check against older images if I have any

[silent urchin]

It definitely feels like there's a lot of clouds right now. There doesn't seem to be a weather indicator in the new UI though

[dense plover]

There is?

Where?

[silent urchin]

there isn't, afaik

[dense plover]

Doesn’t seem to be

I misread it

[hollow lark]

Ok, reached skytop conservatory and the colors here are indeed super saturated and vivid. Learned dragonflying and when flying around I can definitely say that some areas are much more foggy than others and the fog appears and disappears suddenly. It seems as if the starting area was one of those foggy places for me

[glad niche]

Unrelated but FFXIV has these pan out short openings to some zones later on in the game. One in particular is stunningly breathtaking when the in game weather is sunny. Somehow they lacked the foresight to lock that cutscene to a set weather instead of matching the current live weather. Really dulls the entrance and ooo and ahh for some when they are greeted by slow panout after lots of buildup
Close up of own character going ooo ahh

Cloudbank of fog

[ancient jasper]

I'm guessing you mean Il Mheg lol

[glad niche]

nah, its an endwalker zone whos name I will not mention cause its VERY spoilery for the buildup to said zone

Il Mheg fits the bill too tho! That cutscene of the fog lifting, just to go to a foggy skybox

[deep pawn]

Man the person who is nerfing guardian druid is lazy. Not once have they documented their changes and gave them to CM to post

[opaque pewter]

I don't think people care about spoilers in this channel anyway lol. Moreso if it's another game
But concerning that, I always preferred to not have something show off the zone. It makes the discovery so much better when you notice it yourself

[dense plover]

new ptr build

90mb

it isnt on wow.tools so i have no idea what has changed

could be purely an executable update i guess

[silent urchin]

Sounds about right size wise, I think

[uncut lintel]

@strange falcon

[strange falcon]

why hast thou summoned me

[uncut lintel]

i summon you to read

[deep pawn]

there's a lot of hotfixes today on beta

Glacial Fury was nerfed

they had to have added an ICD or something

[weak bison]

does evoker have any azerite power stuff?

[uncut vault]

I don't believe newly made cahracters can obtain the heart of azeroth at all anymore, so likely not

Oh nope, turns out thye can

I'll go check now

[ionic terrace]

Wowhead says there aren't any but that could be wrong

[dense plover]

could be just the generic ones

[uncut vault]

I don't think its the amulet this cutscene is focusing on Magni

[uncut lintel]

LOL

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HES SNEAKING UP TO SAY THERES AZERITE NEARBY

[uncut vault]

None at all

[ionic terrace]

i figured lol

[glad niche]

just cause i was looking into it recently. Unless they wanna change how the rares work in that one pvp zome south of Undead city (I cant remember names atm)
The hearth of azeroth is required for them to show up as silvers.

I went to kill the raptor that can drop a mount of itself, on my shammy who didn't have the heart, And It wouldn't spawn as silver. Went and grabbed the heart real quick. Silver.

[dense plover]

thats weird and while you should report it, i doubt it will get fixed

[glad niche]

It was mentioned a bit in the comments on the wowhead page for said raptor. People were confused why the mobs weren't showing up as rare when they hadn't killed them yet that week while simultaneously happening to be doing it on a newer character or one they hadn't done BfA content on.

So to some scale its either known and not cared about, or how they meant to do it.

Cause Id assume it was brought up on the official forums too. But I enjoy my mellow moods and avoid toxic pits when possible.

[dense plover]

its more that its very low priority

i imagine without the tag, they still drop the intended items

so its just a display issue

vs other more important issues

looks like pet battle world quests still exist

[errant prairie]

ima be sad if there is no Lance reference from Pokemon

[dense plover]

why?

theres too many potential references for things to have EVERY reference related to a subject

[upper pasture]

Who?

[errant prairie]

He was, if im remembering right, the Pokemon League dragon trainer with Dragonite and such. But yeah you're right, would be funny though

[tall crescent]

Imagine not knowing who Lance is. What a childhood

My man overhyped. Crush his whole team with a single ice mon

[plain violet]

._.

You know, childhood was not just Pokemon...

There is too many cartoons, series, books, that were part of a child memories (depending of the period), especially about dragons or big lizards.

[sullen dawn]

Who is Lance?

Pokémon for me was like seasons 1-3 of the original series, the Mewtwo movie, green/blue games and gold/silver games

Don't really know anything about it past that point. Although I did get archeus

[errant prairie]

[sharp thistle]

Blue-eyes-white-dragon for me 😏 pokemon came a bit later in life

[tropic trail]

I wonder why we never got a tank spec for Evoker

Like, and earth-warder tank

[upper pasture]

Because “we’ve got enough tanks right now” 🤷‍♂️

[ember blaze]

because it was supposed to be a caster

and a new ranged class has been a requested thing after the last 3 classes have been entirely melee.

[tropic trail]

Now the new ranged is a HUGE deal that's for sure

Besides, I think they were fine with doing only 2 specs like Demon Hunter

[cosmic beacon]

easier to make 2 pog specs than spread development, tuning etc on another spec ontop of its current ones

[crystal pond]

first episode will be droped in what time? Is anyone knows?

[candid ruin]

I don't think they put out a time but likely after maintenance, if we're lucky maybe during maintenance so we have something to talk about while we all wait

[cosmic beacon]

@uncut lintel have u tried pres evoker

[uncut lintel]

if u think ima spoil myself in ptr no

[cosmic beacon]

talkin about how ur gonna play it without even knowing how it feels

[pallid coral]

Looks like scaling for old raids on Beta is messed up a bit.
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1584575533626830848

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

This is how long it takes to kill the "Sisters of the Moon" in Mythic Tomb of Sargeras at Level 70 with item level 376

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 24, 2022, 4:00 PM

[deep pawn]

it's content 25 levels behind

is it too fast or too slow you think?

seems fine for a raid that old

[silent urchin]

it's hard to get mad over a minute

especially as 376 ilvl is very low, it'll be about 10s by expansion end

[cosmic beacon]

Aslong as mythic dazaralor and nyalotha are soloable I’m all for it

[sleek cloud]

Did they fix zealots paragon on ptr ?

[dense plover]

Wut?

[sleek cloud]

Was bugged and only increased wings by 0.5 sec when wowhead specifically says 1 sec

Still bugged on beta

[deep pawn]

ptr update?

meh, small one

[charred gyro]

Yeah, this is where I'd truly be bothered.

[cosmic beacon]

i wouldnt be bothered

id be glad i can just run it

[uncut vault]

The issue is that this is slower than it is on live, 10 levels and 100 ilvls lower

because the health of everything in Legion was brought up massively

[sleek cloud]

whats the easiest way to get in contact with a game dev

because I have reported this bug on forum

and on beta and ptr

and its not fixed

if you look at this

wow what a nice fucking game

why the fuck is my judgement doing 700 less dmg ???

there IS NOT A SINGLE BLUE POST

THAT SAYS PROTECTION PALADIN JUDGEMENT

IS NERFED

AND IT DOESN'T NEED A NERF

SO WHAT IS UP WITH THIS

[uncut vault]

are you comparing live to the ptr/beta? because the balance of everything is different

talent trees change up a lot

[sleek cloud]

im comparing between ptr and live

the dmg with the same character everything being the same

shows my judgement dmg

got nerfed

and they didn,t even make a blue post

saying prot paladin judgement would be nerfed

because OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN'T NEED ONE

WHY IN THE WORLD IS JUDGEMENT DOING LESS DMG THAN RETAIL

[uncut vault]

Like I said, everything is different, that's not a judgment specific thing

all numbers are balanced different to take into account the new talents

Theyre not gonna make a bluepost for a single ability haha

[sleek cloud]

they shouldn't balance it around new talents, that just makes the talent useless

if they just lower my judgement dmg to make it back the amount it would do if i take zealots paragon to make it hit 10 % harder

that makes no sense

[uncut vault]

Theyre balanced around how they operate at max level, and again

everything is different

[sleek cloud]

the reason i wanna use zealot is not to get back what i lost

[uncut vault]

judgment is not uniquely lower

[sleek cloud]

but gain even more power

[uncut vault]

numbers are very slightly lower across the board to make scaling to level 70 less dramatic, which is an issue a lot of previous xpacs have had

[dense plover]

It sounds like someone has never played more than one expansion

Entire class kits and rotations have changed - there are new abilities, some old abilities are totally different or gone and the new talent system means some talents might buff abilities to be better or work differently

[silent urchin]

It's probably some passive that's gone away

Or just in general a change to the damage aura

level 60 balance is basically meaningless come dragonflight anyway

[uncut lintel]

i lost brain cells reading this chat for once

[deep pawn]

oh, another ptr build

another 86mb one

[uncut lintel]

HOLY

SHIT

https://www.wowhead.com/news/maximum-characters-per-account-limit-increased-to-60-in-dragonflight-pre-patch-329515?webhook

OMOMGOGMGOMGMO

@cosmic beacon

[deep pawn]

yeah, pretty poggers

[upper edge]

Do we have full access to the talent tree or nah lol

[deep pawn]

Where

Beta yes at 70. On ptr you'll be missing 5 points in each tree

[upper edge]

But what about for the pre patch lol

[crystal pond]

New talent trees will be available in pre-patch yes

[upper edge]

Is it all the points or like half

[crystal pond]

Blizz didnt tell

Its gonna be new ui and talent trees soon and thats it

Will see after maintenance

[upper edge]

Ah gotcha

[sullen dawn]

You'll be missing 10 points (5 for class, 5 for spec) as those are the points you will get between level 60 and 70

So you'll have the large majority of your points but not all

[sleek cloud]

Lol prot paladin got nothing new haha good joke ! Btw if you never heard of me I’m multiglad 2.8k prot paladin top 2 world in 3s top 1 in 2s and rbgs

So I know a little bit about my spec and how it goes every expansion

They like to just stealth nerf prot paladin since shadowlands

Literally no blue post but most my abilities get cut down

[dense plover]

“I know how this goes” - shows they clearly don’t since every single class at 60 is doing lower damage

[sleek cloud]

I made so many exploit videos after reporting the bugs too, I know how lazy blizzard programmers are

And that’s due to losing your covenant dude

if you go into the shadowlands your dps will be the same

Judgement is the only thing hitting lower

[dense plover]

Nope - even without that, almost every class has reduced damaged at 60 on ptr

Just depends on which abilities

[sleek cloud]

I bet they just use the same ID for prot and ret judgement

And by nerfing ret judgement by 10%

They also unintentionally nerfed prot

[dense plover]

I’m not going to argue - I honestly don’t care about your opinion because of how absolutely toxic you are

I’ve never seen anyone act like this in this channel and I don’t want to

[sleek cloud]

Like I said you don’t even read my comments

[dense plover]

You started off with “I play glad here is my ranking”

I really don’t want to

[sleek cloud]

So I’m not gonna try to inform you because you don’t even know one of my talent says it increases wings duration by 0 seconds

Which in your words is not a bug

Either

Because they just wanted to specify that this talent would increase avenging wrath by 0 sec

[dense plover]

Didn’t say there weren’t bugs

There are tons

I personally think the prepatch should’ve been in December and patch in January

Because yeah, there are a ton of bugs

[crystal pond]

Its should be in feb and start in march

It will be bad if its droped in december-january because of holidays

[crystal pond]

Servers are shuted but there still no animation.....

[stable peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-tom-hiddleston-delayed-gratification-cookies-gif-4764053

[sonic flame]

is chromie time scaled to 60 in dragonflight prepatch?

( which should be live now )

[dense plover]

Firstly there’s 8 hours of maintenance

So it’s not going to be live for a while

Second, XP and chromie changes aren’t coming until the 2nd half on Nov 15

[crystal pond]

Im not asking about servers
Im disapointed that they dont want to drop animation in maintenance before pre-patch start

[ancient jasper]

You still have 7 hours until Maintenance is over, bud. There's PLENTY of time for them to drop one before servers come back up.

[cerulean lava]

Did we saw Nathanos in Shadowlands?

or anything about him

[crystal pond]

Im will do pro-gamer move and go to sleep 😎

[ancient jasper]

Thanks to whatever Mod decided to step in 😄

[sullen dawn]

Yes thank you

Anyway, what we're other people's opinions on legacies episode 1? For me i found it quite bad compared to the BFA/legion ones

I felt there was no sense of mystery and chrom/the evokers voices were very generic

[crimson jasper]

huh? I just stopped typing lol

[crimson jasper]

but hey since the legacies was the topic, the animation style was well done, comparing it to when they first did them for mists, they all had a interesting visual concept, the soundtrack and delivery of it was nicely executed with what was shown, it was a clear cut explanation of a historic moment we only had in book form so far, while of course a summary of that, with slight aberrations ofc because it's told from Nozdormus perspective specifically, which his new voice actor is doing quite a nice job, already felt nice in that little preview trailer we got over twitter, I do look forward to see the other two

[plain violet]

I did liked it, it's fairly simple and the first episode serve as trailer and resume the lore.

Not everyone knew about Galakrond so... it's cool.

[abstract ether]

it's definitely for explaining the lore to people who aren't familiar

[crimson jasper]

absolutely, and Emberthal (the Dracthyr) is a good standin for that, becuase they do have memory loss

[sullen dawn]

Yeh i got that impression

Perhaps that's why it didn't resonate with me

[abstract ether]

you'll just have to wait for the coming weeks!

[crimson jasper]

a nice step into the direction of showing the lore ingame tho, compared to having to read the books

which I still enjoy reading the books regardless

[sullen dawn]

Hehe it hasn't made me any less excited for the expansion!

[plain violet]

Yes it's not a "wow revelation".. explaining lore like this is nice on a meta level too.

Dracthyrs are like new players.

[crimson jasper]

something like this would have benefitted SL as well especially regarding topics around Sylvanas

[plain violet]

"Who are we?"

On a funny topic. God Emberthal is huge.

[crimson jasper]

yeap she do be tall indeed

might not seem like it if you stand beside her as Dracthyr

but the race itself is rather big

[plain violet]

Yup totally.

[crimson jasper]

they did portrait Galakrond rather nicely

[plain violet]

I like that element, because even the slimmy appear as big.

[crimson jasper]

I think leaving out the "extra libs" etc

[plain violet]

Galakrond really give the monster vibe.

[crimson jasper]

but focusing in on the multiple eyes (for a clear old god giveaway) was p cool

[plain violet]

And the two protodragons of two colours protecting eggs.

That is wholesome on another level.

[crimson jasper]

also yes I agree^^

[plain violet]

To me I was going for my dracthyr as a big slender vibe, like stardust dragon would be.

[crimson jasper]

if we go with the color patterns, the video clearly highlighted the future aspects, that was Alexstrasza and Ysera^^

[crimson jasper]

I prefer the slender body type of dracthyr over the muscle beefy approach, Dragons I find are elegant and majestic more than they are bulky

[plain violet]

That's possible. 🤔

I agree!

More slender give majesty, elegance.

And better play on armours.

[crimson jasper]

the other protos that arent "story relevant" are mostly white/grey or a lighter color from what I can see

[plain violet]

We have one dark/black protodragon with red eyes that breath wind/sonic yes...

[crimson jasper]

but it makes sense to present it that way, have the "important" ones stick out and easily identifiable

[plain violet]

Yup!

[crimson jasper]

Neltharion I'd wager

especially since he came into the shot when Noz commented of them banding together

[plain violet]

No Neltharion had blue eyes, strangely, I will copy that wait..

The screaming one:

And then proto Neltharion:

[crimson jasper]

in this while far away

the eyes appear red again

or well orange ish

[plain violet]

Effectively. Strange. 🤔

[crimson jasper]

where was the blue eye part

when they covered

ok lets see

[crimson jasper]

same shot lil further away eyes still "orange"

tbf

when closed in

[plain violet]

You're right. 🤔

[crimson jasper]

Alx's eyes also werent specifically colored

tho in this I think it's clearly to show "emotion"

[plain violet]

Effectively...

[crimson jasper]

which usually isnt easy on dragons

[plain violet]

Yes emotions and humanity.

As she was loving.

[crimson jasper]

so to effectively do it they removed the glow I assume

ah if you look at that scene

when "neltharion"

turns around

the eyes change into orange from that blue ish

so it might just be a "light effect"

I am unfortunately not good at things that regard shading and such^^;

it's at 2:40 in the video

[plain violet]

Oh! Let's see that.

[crimson jasper]

from that ss you took, basically when he turns his head the coloring changes

see basically same ss just a sec later

could also be going with what Nozdormu is saying, that they overcame their instincs of fear

[plain violet]

I think you could be right. Eyes changing coulours based on emotions.

[crimson jasper]

eyes start glowing cause they are now "determined to fight"

kinda deal

[plain violet]

Yeah, you could be right.. 🤔

[crimson jasper]

only blizz knows

but I enjoy dissecting videos like this

it's always fun

as aspect atleast

he does have his usual "deathwing" eyes xd

this is also a really nice shot

[plain violet]

I enjoy it too!

He's really... spikey too.

[crimson jasper]

gotta dig through the dirt somehow xd

certified aspect of dirt gotta be spikey

[plain violet]

Aha you're right.

Driller dragon.

[crimson jasper]

cool model tho, I am more used to him as deathwing

as we all are probably

[crimson jasper]

is it a drill thats gonna pierce the heavens?

[plain violet]

+50 points for the reference!

[crimson jasper]

happy ya got it xD

[plain violet]

Well we will see plenty of him as old version so...

Aha I do! Gurren Lagann or Fourze are both drill references. :p

[crimson jasper]

good old times, stuffs pretty iconic even if it is for memes heh

[plain violet]

Memes are the DNA of the soul after all. :p

[crimson jasper]

funnily enough I am always late on memes

[plain violet]

I am too, more or less.. depend of the franchise. 😁

[crimson jasper]

true actually xd

[plain violet]

For example if we talk about memes on Kamen Rider or Star Wars, or WoW, here I am! But more classical ones.. nope. :')

[crimson jasper]

I do know kamen rider, even tho it wasnt as big of a thing here as it was most likely over in na?

[plain violet]

Yeah Kamen Rider is not really know in EU... I am just a big fan. 😁

Watched multiple seasons with subs, even followed on-going ones and have figurines + drivers.

[crimson jasper]

oh thats cool^^

[plain violet]

It is! Still a fun franchise to laid back, well.. when they don't make you cry. 😁

[dense plover]

Is the login music still only 3 min with no overture?

[plain violet]

It seem, yes...

[dense plover]

Boooooo

[plain violet]

Ahha!

Yes I agree.. Well, it could change maybe!

[crimson jasper]

I do assume theres a like "full version" ?

[crimson jasper]

is it still ongoing?

[plain violet]

Still! To explain it..
Every year is a new season, and every season is independent, both different writer, different heroes, different world..

Some seasons are really more laid back, childhish. Others are more mature, serious, even really dark and sad.

But it is called Kamen Rider because there is still some concept that are tied, heroes transforming with a belt, and their powers having a link with the evil they fight (the original season, 197X, is really anti war and about how a living weapon can use it for good, not evil no matter their origins).
Some writers for example where the one behind Puella Madoka Magica, so you can image how much some seasons were.. dark. 😁

But it's easier this way to follow the franchise, because you can just pick the season that seem most interesting for you.

[crimson jasper]

yea that makes sense

and madoka was "funny" indeed

[plain violet]

Totally funny.. :')

Kamen Rider Gaim was written by the one behind Madoka. It seem silly, guys fighting in fruit armors.

In the end, cosmic horror.

(and death. Lot of death, even major characters)

[crimson jasper]

everybody gangsta until the fluffy shit doll thing bites yo head off

[plain violet]

That's totally the same kind of surprise we got here. :')

Everybody gangsta until one got crushed between two walls.

[crimson jasper]

ha F xd

[plain violet]

Ahah. That's not even the most brutal one.

But yes. Even if "for childrens ! :D", Kamen Rider clearly got away with a lot of graphic or brutal subject and stuff, that's also what make it likeable, like Avatar.

It don't fear at all of touching a lot of subjects. And well, the choreography are nice.

[crimson jasper]

it is an interesting way for media to go about such topics

[plain violet]

Exactly! And to also say to people that it can be better, that they can dream, and such. It's a bit like superheroes, in terms of morals.

[crimson jasper]

always appreciated to deliver a positive message

enough depressed people around xd

[plain violet]

God I agree on that... 😁

Why I like the franchise. There is some "dark" ending, but still, the messages are positive, the travel was worth it, and we can all heal from wounds.

[crimson jasper]

indeed^^

[uncut vault]

I just realized, they mixed up kalec and malygos' models again lol

they used Kalec's new DF model for this instead of Malygos

[uncut lintel]

hes pretty cute

[plain violet]

Oh wow.

That and the strange colours of Neltharion..

Well it happen. 😁

[uncut vault]

the hilarious part is that this isnt the first time theyve done this lol

in Hearthstone, they accidentally used Kalec's dragon art for Malygos' original card too

[plain violet]

Oh. O_o

That's effectively surprising for internal communication errors.

[crystal pond]

Malygos is cursed with models

Its even more funny due wrath

[uncut lintel]

its probably because they cant tell diferent between blue dragons

since they r blue

[crystal pond]

They drew the first cinematic before they finished the models
Cause emberthal in cinematic and emberthal in game is different

Now due this shot im gonna ship Ysera and Nozdormu

Thanks blizzard

[ancient jasper]

Weren't they protecting a clutch of eggs together?

[crystal pond]

No, it was ysera and alexstrasza

[ancient jasper]

Ah

Hm.. Think they'll skip Beta update this week to work out any bugs the prepatch throws up?

[plain violet]

I don't really think they will but dunno..

[candid ruin]

they don't have that kinda time

[sick storm]

has anyone else messed around with soloing DF dungeons? took me 51m to solo ruby life pools on a 277ilvl 60, i ended up with 5% into 61 at the end of the dungeon

seems like it would be a quick way to level

[uncut lintel]

yes i thought this nuzzle was cute but idont ship this

maybe someone at blizzard does

< . <

[dense plover]

aw they nerfed denizen of the dream

makes sense

just a bit sad

no more 100% uptime

[deep pawn]

it wasn't cause you could have 2 up at once

[dense plover]

oh huh

so this should still be very cool

ok

also dang - more maintenance

wonder why

[deep pawn]

this is still about a35% nerf

[dense plover]

it definitely needed it

i just thought it was like 50%

[dense plover]

time to find out if i can import my beta UI to retail

yep

looks like they removed the underlight angler as a valid fishing equipment

or no fishing equipment is working

cool

[deep pawn]

it didn't really need a nerf cause it was at best 5% of your damage, which for a capstone is fine

Balance druids are considering not using capstones

[crimson jasper]

oh you are correct! it could be that it is just young Malygos tho, like he'll get his beard later

[uncut vault]

well, that would also involve him un-growing horns and spikes too 😛

[crimson jasper]

true, but hey maybe thats a thing with dragons!

xd

he did nom on some other dragons after going mad, maybe that changed his looks a tad

I would assume you are right tho and they just used Kalecs model

or Kalec will one day also have different horns and a beard when he becomes a grandpa xD

[crystal pond]

No it didnt

I hope they didnt do that fuck up with all cinematics and his new in game model

[crimson jasper]

iirc in the books he did eat some other dragons before regaining his sanity or rather to regain it

been a while since I read them

wasnt it nether drakes?

[crystal pond]

I mean that he didnt change after that

I readed comics

[crimson jasper]

I just mentioned it cause galakrond was atleast in the books meantioned to have grown extra limbs etc because of the cannibalism (which with the new lore from uldaman is more likely old god related)

[crimson jasper]

oh yea it is most likely just "the wrong model"

or well

maybe they want it as his updated model

[crystal pond]

Galakrond was corrupted by void

And this is why he became like that

[crimson jasper]

specifically an old god, yoggy or was it yoggy? or Y'Shaarj?

it was mentioned in the books found in the new Uldaman dungeon

[crystal pond]

Yogg

[crimson jasper]

yogg ok

but yea I assume blizz just also wants a updated model for malygos

seeing as all other aspects got one

and he could very well be shown again in DF even if in a flashback

[crystal pond]

But making him look exactly like kalec, with the fact that kalec is not malygos son, is so wrong

[crimson jasper]

tad strange indeed

well maybe we'll see what's up, or it really is just a model change

or an oversight

[rancid dragon]

hi, is there music for the levelling zones on beta? i want to do a slow levelling on beta to enjoy the zones then speedlevel on live when the expansion comes out

is there ever music on beta or no?

[crystal pond]

Yall
Did they drop the new book? That about what happened in time-skip

[crystal pond]

Only login screen one atm

[sullen dawn]

no just the login screen music

[plain violet]

They didn't drop the new book yet.

[amber jay]

What about realmlist on beta? They just disappeared?

Are they just removed or some error?

[ionic terrace]

prob for the weekly update

[dense plover]

Oh finally

Hopefully we get music

Btw found out the keybinds not working is an addon bug

I have out of date addons disabled but apparently even some of the updated ones are broken

[uncut vault]

we heard some of it in the guides so they clearly do have it at least 😛

[dense plover]

I’m curious if the reason the title is short is actually because it’s either A) Staying short, or B) instead of being a new mix, is just a literal overture of several mp3s that will be in sequence and the rest of the sequence isn’t in yet

[ancient jasper]

I really wish they hadn't slapped Protected status on so much shit. AddOns are now constantly throwing the ***** is attempting to access a protected feature error

[dense plover]

Well I think part of it is addons are still using old lua functions when they need to use new ones or multiple calls

[sullen dawn]

A

[dense plover]

I mean we don’t know until they add more music

[crystal pond]

Probably music will be droped with dracthyr release

3 weeks omg.....

[errant prairie]

Would be odd but maybe

[deep pawn]

come on build

[candid ruin]

Work orders gotta be in this next build

they gotta

[deep pawn]

finally

[dense plover]

THAR SHE BLOWS

https://tenor.com/view/whale-rainbow-blowhole-gif-4370833

[deep pawn]

2gb

gotta be music in that

[dense plover]

thats still a bit small

only 2 mp3s

both encrypted

[deep pawn]

oh, bleh

[dense plover]

yeah its probably backend stuff

and file replacements

[deep pawn]

let's see if they updated the beta personal resource display

they changed that last minute on live, doesn't show buffs anymore

[dense plover]

bunch of unk files

so it could be music

[uncut vault]

is wow.tools super weird looking for anyone else?

[deep pawn]

nope, nothing new with the PRD

[dense plover]

no?

its not working great though

[oblique ice]

is beta down for anyone else?

[dense plover]

been down all day

we JUST got a new build

finally

[oblique ice]

who did? lol

[deep pawn]

beta

[dense plover]

BETA

[oblique ice]

NICE

[dense plover]

i literally

i dont

[deep pawn]

not seeing a ton of class changes

[dense plover]

im not expecting many at all on beta

beta will likely see all of the retail changes as they balance retail

except evoker

[deep pawn]

except they're being a bit slow on retail even, honestly balancing based on prepatch would be stupid since covenants and leggos are changing things

[oblique ice]

ya im waiting for beta come back back online lol

[deep pawn]

it is

[oblique ice]

ah just came back up

[dense plover]

i mean - its been 1 day?

idk what you expect

servers are up tho

[deep pawn]

at least some hotfixes. 😦

login music the same

[dense plover]

doesnt seem like music is in game

big tracker

left click cycles zones

[deep pawn]

neat

[dense plover]

this is VERY nice

[uncut vault]

its uncolored and misaligned for me, weird

[dense plover]

firefox?

framerate is finally better

my god valdrakken doesnt chug

[ionic terrace]

😔

[deep pawn]

hmm, 60 builds behind retail still

[dense plover]

not in but area updated

tons of doodads

[deep pawn]

maintenance for retail in the morning

probably the pvp restarts they mentioned

[ionic terrace]

M+ portals

[deep pawn]

neat

[dense plover]

wait

they might be in

[ionic terrace]

nop

[dense plover]

nope

[errant prairie]

Well if not this build then hopefully next week. Were they ever tested before? At the very start of alpha/beta?

[dense plover]

YO

[ionic terrace]

ah wait

[dense plover]

all of the renown rewards are account unlocks now!

except purchasable equipment

[dense plover]

and recipe unlocks and questlines

[errant prairie]

Oh big on thge recipes unlocks

[dense plover]

but all of the manuscripts, all of the WQ stuff, way more accessible

[dense plover]

no, they ARENT

ones that are look like this

[uncut vault]

Chrome

[dense plover]

if the browser has darkmode, turn it off

[ionic terrace]

uh ok

[dense plover]

uh

ok

[ionic terrace]

oh neat

[dense plover]

well thats not accessible game

didnt know about the fields of ferocity WQ unlock

so many adventure guide things

[candid ruin]

are bags finally fixed

[deep pawn]

waiting on a blue post of beta notes

EVOKERS STILL CAN'T USE THE DAMN GUIDE

[candid ruin]

BAGS FIXED

[dense plover]

is this new?

[uncut vault]

Nah that's been there for a bit

[dense plover]

oh ok

its marked as new in the global strings db2

[ionic terrace]

i'm gonna assume that The Dreamer is the third chapter

[dense plover]

im assuming some story is post raid specifically

[ionic terrace]

yea

[deep pawn]

crafting orders are supposed to be in

Crafting Orders will be initially accessible on the Tyrhold realm only, and will be enabled on the Valdrakken realm at a later date.

[uncut vault]

silver dragon is back

[deep pawn]

You will find that the Crafting Orders tab along the bottom of your recipe is accessible. From there, you can search or browse public, guild, and any personal orders you may have received. Once you’ve claimed the order, you can provide any missing reagents, craft the item in question, fill out a (courteous) message back to your customer and complete the order, collecting your commission.

noooo, not threads of fate

[candid ruin]

crafting orders woooooo

[dense plover]

?

whats up?

[ionic terrace]

tldr they are removing it pretty much

[dense plover]

eh

kinda makes sense

though i hope you can still do torghast while leveling

[deep pawn]

probably not

since that was tied to threads

[dense plover]

boooo

thats the part i liked even if it was a shittier version of what we had in SLs alpha

[deep pawn]

so looks like it's 30 public orders a week, no cap on personal orders that anyone can send you

[dense plover]

thats plenty

i wouldnt be surprised if they decrease it tbh

[deep pawn]

After you fill your cap just announce your high skill in making those r5 items. 😄

get the personals

[dense plover]

i assume theyll have to keep adding new profession gear and high level recipes to keep the professions relevant throughout the expac

since youll be able to legendary rank high rank stuff by end of 10.0.2

[deep pawn]

well each new upgrade token adds more difficulty

I don't know if they'll do more gear that way though

I don't think they'll add that many recipes

since the system to keep them evergreen already exists

[dense plover]

i mean, bare minimum base difficulty has to continue increasing so there has to be a way to grind to increase that

so better profession gear makes the most sense

[deep pawn]

why?

[dense plover]

because how do i craft legendary gear in 10.1?

[deep pawn]

Like for armor, the increase in difficulty comes from the infusions

[dense plover]

uh huh

and if i want season 2 M+ equiv armor?

in 10.1?

[deep pawn]

new infusions will drop

[dense plover]

yeah which i wont be able to get a high rank on

because without better profession gear theres no way to bump my stats up past a certain point

[deep pawn]

We don't know yet what they'll do, they could either introduce new gear to match any new difficulty the new infusions add, or they end up saying, "Okay, you already did the work, just get the new mats"

[dense plover]

i hope they dont do the 2nd one

[deep pawn]

heroic and mythic infusions currently add +30 and +50 difficulty to the recipes

s2 could be +70 and +100

plus whatever one they add to bump baseline crafted to old tier mythic

I guess concentrated primal infusion might become a world drop or something

[dense plover]

but if they increase the difficulty

[deep pawn]

or drop in +2s

[dense plover]

and you cant increase your skill in the profession

you cant make the best version of that gear

[deep pawn]

I'm sure whatever difficulty increases they add you'll be able to match with optional finishing reagents or better accessories and tools, they have options

[dense plover]

thats what i suggested'

and then you said they dont need to add it

[deep pawn]

They probably even haven't thought about how they'll do the s2 professions and likely are waiting on feedback to s1

They could either do that where gear progresses, or players say they don't want to regrind gear each season and they just replace the infusions each season

[dense plover]

balance druid orbital strike is good now?

now also reduces celestial alignment/incarnation of elune cooldown by 60 sec

anvil and stave brewmaster talent massively nerfed to only occur every 3 sec

its kinda mediocre now

every 3 sec, reduce brew cooldown by 1 sec with both points

strength of spirit now only increases expel harms healing by up to 100% (down from 200%) of your missing health 😦

[candid ruin]

any crafting order screenshots? I'm on the wrong leveling server

just wanna know if you can do crafting orders to your alts

[deep pawn]

it was already every 3s

they just put it on the tooltip

[dense plover]

oh

so it was already sorta meh

huh

its not bad

its just kinda meh

might as well just say "every 3 sec in combat, reduce your brew cooldown by 1 sec"

[uncut vault]

The Dreamer is the only one not in any of the renown rewards

and just based on the title the story content is fairly obvious

[sullen dawn]

Yeh but it's A

[deep pawn]

they put rings and trinkets on the vendor to test

plus the evoker staff and hunter bow

[candid ruin]

Otto Name changed from "Splish-Splash" to "Otto". the worst change

[dense plover]

its either post raid or maruuk and encrypted

[merry tusk]

afaik there has been zero testing publicly for work orders and nothing has actually been shown for them. all signs point to no one knowing virtually anything about them until DF launches

lets hope they actually work on launch since there's been no testing

[errant prairie]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/crafting-orders-system-available-soon-on-dragonflight-beta-329570

possibly next build

[candid ruin]

Ah I see

[cyan needle]

Man it’s too soon to launch to test this

[deep pawn]

We're a month away still, there's time.

[cosmic beacon]

There’s time

[white trellis]

I just attempted this on the current beta build on my prot paladin. 25 minute clear but only 21% of a level.

[stuck stirrup]

whats alpha beta ptr

[sick storm]

Alpha, beta, and public test realm spoilers

[stuck stirrup]

oh that makes sense

[sick storm]

I jist realized i also had full rested. Ill try it again tonight at 61

[surreal spruce]

Is df professions like sl where I don't need to max out previous expansions professions to start leveling it?

[plain violet]

Yuup.

[surreal spruce]

Cool thanks for the help

[plain violet]

You're welcome!

[glass flicker]

What skull on what?

There's no context.

[cunning fossil]

The skull that was on the loot window

Sorry I forgot to mention that didn't fit on screen

But yeah tlwhen you clicked there used to be a skull on the corner of the loot window

[glass flicker]

Never noticed.

[crystal pond]

There was skull what?

But yeah its stupid to complain about it

Like its not ugly gryphons that you will see all the time

[rain cave]

removed for china

consistency

potentially

[crystal pond]

China have their own version of the game

They didnt have skulls in first place

But im interested how they gonna moderate dragon bodies across obsidian citadel

[ember blaze]

I don’t think I’ve ever noticed a skull lol

[plain violet]

Some people really just want to complain, aha.

[rain cave]

I know

But less work for them if they make it consistent across both

[blazing radish]

I just now got the beta, and i'm wondering, how i and if i can play through the drakthyr starter zone

[merry tusk]

download the beta and play it then

or wait two weeks and play it during pre patch

[dense plover]

Dracthyr would be by creating a dracthyr on the leveling realms

[blazing radish]

I figured it out I was on the wrong realm

[worn crown]

There was always a skull on the loot window since vanilla. How come some people never noticed? 😮

Not that it matters anyway, I always thought it was a bit creepy 😛

[ember blaze]

i just never noticed a skull

it's not like im looking at anything but what dropped

[crystal pond]

When you have autoloot and dont even watch at that window

[dense plover]

https://twitter.com/terrangregory/status/1586251436832174082?s=46&t=A1JL0D8uYmCcu5EzpKsuZg

Terran Gregory 💙 (@TerranGregory)

One month until launch. 2 & 1/2 weeks to Dracthyr playable. So excited 😆

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[plain violet]

I am eager... there will be something.