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dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 7:26 PM

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What teleporter was broken?

silent urchin Oct 10, 2022, 7:27 PM

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I assume the valdrakken -> stormwind and back one

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Which did work at one point in the past, at least

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 7:28 PM

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It worked for me

deep pawn Oct 10, 2022, 7:40 PM

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My dad was a programmer yeah

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There's 6 "holidays" most companies observe. Easter(Good Friday), Memorial Day, Fourth of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. After that the next most common are New Year's Day and Veteran's Day

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Federal holidays like MLK Day, President's Day, and Indigenous People's days are days only the government and banks close traditionally

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Hell it's a joke in the USA that a bank will close for anything if it means a day off for them

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there was a few times he worked from home on days me and my brother were off but rarely was he fully off work

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Valdrakken being unstable

sharp thistle Oct 10, 2022, 8:05 PM

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https://gyazo.com/554d3f198a3da1036fcb51fecefed496
Feelin it

Gyazo

▶ Play video

silver copper Oct 10, 2022, 8:14 PM

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So I see they updated the dracthyr model

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XD

ancient jasper Oct 10, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Dracthyr getting a Dragon form as a Mount would be fuckin' cool lol

sharp thistle Oct 10, 2022, 9:04 PM

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ancient jasper Dracthyr getting a Dragon form as a Mount would be fuckin' cool lol

missed opportunity tbh. Would be like the druids getting their giant owl form from the legion class mount

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 9:16 PM

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sharp thistle https://gyazo.com/554d3f198a3da1036fcb51fecefed496 Feelin it

i thought they fixed this

sharp thistle Oct 10, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Evidently not catshrug

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 9:28 PM

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apparently beta servers are freaking out

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lots of people DCing or ending up in a queue

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wonder if theyll hotfix or patch it

sharp thistle Oct 10, 2022, 9:32 PM

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I got a ton of lag in the azure span. I think there are too many mobs/animated things in that area.

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 9:33 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/login-servers-really-slow-right-now/1364695/32

World of Warcraft Forums

Login servers really slow right now

Hey everyone, Thank you for reporting the sudden login and disconnect issues. This is affecting all Blizzard games and our teams are investigating the cause. We apologize for the disruption and hope to see everyone back online soon.

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blizzard wide issue apparently

ionic terrace Oct 10, 2022, 10:07 PM

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@dense plover did you get the beetles

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 10:22 PM

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ionic terrace <@117691857911152645> did you get the beetles

yes

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was able to test some of the recipes

ionic terrace Oct 10, 2022, 10:22 PM

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\o/

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 10:22 PM

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really seems like cooking requires a functional AH

deep pawn Oct 10, 2022, 10:37 PM

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Any vendor builds out yet?

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 10:48 PM

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deep pawn Any vendor builds out yet?

no

deep pawn Oct 10, 2022, 11:02 PM

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Only one post today

errant prairie Oct 10, 2022, 11:02 PM

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maybe tomorrow

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Copium

dense plover Oct 10, 2022, 11:02 PM

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^

deep pawn Oct 10, 2022, 11:03 PM

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Here's hoping

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I want the new UI

ionic terrace Oct 10, 2022, 11:43 PM

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deep pawn Only one post today

two now 😛

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well, a small one

deep pawn Oct 10, 2022, 11:46 PM

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aww, I was hoping they'd just delete the keystones but let us test academy and nokhud m0

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 12:28 AM

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THEY FIXED WORLD QUESTS

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oh wait

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nvm

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it worked for a split second

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now the errors are back

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 1:19 AM

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tooltip bug with world quests is sometimes hilarious

ancient jasper Oct 11, 2022, 2:01 AM

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Mmm looks like the Ring of Blood quests are broken currently

pulsar minnow Oct 11, 2022, 2:01 AM

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Idk if its been mentioned anywhere but some of the caves in the Waking Shore have some paintings

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pulsar minnow Oct 11, 2022, 2:58 AM

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Idk what Kalec is doing but hes doing something

crimson jasper Oct 11, 2022, 4:20 AM

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Alex looks like she's doing the "me angy, no talk" to Nozdormu

rare hemlock Oct 11, 2022, 4:52 AM

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anyone else feeling underwhelmed by Dragonflight Beta? I've been doing the lv70 content and leveling experience. It just isn't landing for me. Was chatting with a friend in beta also and they admitted to feeling similarly

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 5:45 AM

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I really like the story

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It’s a lot more low key

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It’s missing an absolute shit ton of cutscenes

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And the endgame story behind the renown is missing/unknown currently

silent urchin Oct 11, 2022, 5:46 AM

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Questing experience seems like the best wows ever been at

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 5:46 AM

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^honestly this

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Especially the sheer amount of interesting side quests

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:47 AM

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My main critique so far is mostly that the main story feels super short

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 5:47 AM

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It feels like it’s half there

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:47 AM

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They’ve probably fixed the XP issue by now but azure span and thaldraszus in particular just zoom through things

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 5:47 AM

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And I think it’s intentional

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They have

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Azure span feels like one of the most well paced zones

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The fast zone for me was ohnaran plains

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Specifically because the ending is lame and fast

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You just fight the lightning lady and she dies

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And it’s a boring ass fight

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:49 AM

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It was easily the worst for me in terms of pace lol, but that’s probably because I think it treats the gnolls very weird

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Plains definitely has the worst ending (at least, discounting thaldraszus missing it’s cutscenes)

silent urchin Oct 11, 2022, 5:50 AM

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Yeah, side quests in general are mostly a bunch of relatively short, but decent stories

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:50 AM

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Span to me just felt like it didn’t quite know what it was trying to focus on, the blue dragon story feels very shafted so far by the main focus being tuskarr, and from what datamining and renown implies they will continue to be the main focus in max level story

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At the very least I hope that allows them to treat the gnolls with more nuance than the leveling story did

silent urchin Oct 11, 2022, 5:51 AM

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I'm kinda confused by it

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cobalt thingy seems to lack.. almost any story

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I dunno if that's just also held back

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there is a short questline at the top of one of the towers there, but it's definitely a side thing

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:52 AM

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I hope there’s some actual plot for the assembly because the intro it has right now is both very lame and very not explanatory

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And it’s supposed to be a mini rep

silent urchin Oct 11, 2022, 5:52 AM

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There's been a bunch of named NPCs show up in the area

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But there's also a bunch of items that say "give to this NPC" which doesn't exist as an option

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:53 AM

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Waking Shore definitely was the most cohesive for me, it balanced the main plot between introducing the main story of the primalists with going into the details of the red and black flights really well, and offered very simple and optional hooks to the side quest hubs along the way

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It set way too high of a bar for me going into the other three zones because they are just not as good in comparison lol

abstract ether Oct 11, 2022, 5:54 AM

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I'm literally just sitting here not thinking or using my brain beyond anything but "I'm a dragon. I'm also riding a dragon. They put dragons on my dragons because they heard I like dragons. wheee"

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dragon frog. dragon rabbit. dragon deer. duck?

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 5:55 AM

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I do wish the actual dragonriding mounts had more story tbh

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Getting the proto drake especially is super lame

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You just walk with a guy, he says two lines about dragons wanting to explore, and then you get a quest item to magically learn how to summon a random dragon

silent urchin Oct 11, 2022, 6:11 AM

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I did the main story before most of the side quests were in/working, so I can't really judge that bit

ember blaze Oct 11, 2022, 7:42 AM

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uncut vault tooltip bug with world quests is sometimes hilarious

That dracthyr looks sick wtf

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Is that yours

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 7:47 AM

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Nah, another player's

austere gazelle Oct 11, 2022, 8:20 AM

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I'm not sure I like the change to MM+

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Raid were already putting off some of the player base because of the efforts and time constraint, difficulty and the lack of " reward " ( pick your poison ), if you make the (good ) gear from MM+ harder to get, it'll make the raid content harder for some guilds and will increase the issue.
On our side, we were a casual guild with few players doing MM+ , so we could " carry " our mate that didn't have time to play a lot in raid and overcome the content, now it'll mean that we may have to ditch them on heroic because we would never be able to clear the heroic content with them

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We'll see how it'll turn out, but I'm not very fond of this

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 8:50 AM

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until we see final tuning I struggle to believe Blizzard will make things that much harder

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They tune around the gear you get and in the past Blizzard has preferred to tune around end of dungeon chest rewards vs vault for m+

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So I wanna say 17 and 18s might be as easy as current 15s IF Blizzard stays consistent with it and let 19s and 20s be harder

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If not, then it'll depend on how badly participation craters

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Cause no one's gonna do harder +15s to get worse loot

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I'd go the other way and make raid vaults one tier above the bosses you do

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It's 1 piece of loot a week

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It ain't gonna kill the game to let heroic raiders get 1 mythic piece a week

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 8:56 AM

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it is a catch-up in a way so y

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raiding as a guild is an absolute mess, so have a way to be bis was a good idea

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was

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:01 AM

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Back in WoD you could get a piece of loot one tier over what you raid from a weekly quest in your mission table

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In Legion it got nerfed to being the same tier you raid cause mythic raiders got upset

austere gazelle Oct 11, 2022, 10:37 AM

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deep pawn until we see final tuning I struggle to believe Blizzard will make things that m...

Well we'll see, for the moment they announced they'll increase more than what we got there the % gain of health and damage par key level starting level 11. Which means that it might be harder than now

swift copper Oct 11, 2022, 1:47 PM

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Honestly I really hope dragon riding will eventually be available in the main world

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 2:09 PM

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swift copper Honestly I really hope dragon riding will eventually be available in the main wo...

It’s pretty likely, though I think it will see tweaks regarding vigor and earning glyphs unless DF becomes the new default leveling

mossy meteor Oct 11, 2022, 2:10 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Dragonflight-Codex/dp/1647221587

The World of Warcraft: The Dragonflight Codex

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new book

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Journey across Azeroth and beyond with this comprehensive guide, highlighting the magnificent dragons of the video game World of Warcraft. With this immersive in-world field guide written by Khadgar of the bronze dragonflight, get an in-depth look at dragon species and dracthyr, along with the magical abilities of World of Warcraft’s dragonflights, proto-dragons, and more!

After years of enduring incredible hardship, few dragons of Azeroth remain, and now it is more important than ever to learn about their vast history and incredible abilities. After 10,000 years, the Watcher has reawakened, the beacon has been activated, and the dragons have gathered—called to be Azeroth’s protectors once again. The New Age of Dragons has begun in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. From the untamed northlands of Azeroth, fans of World of Warcraft will be able to follow the history of the dragons from the elemental drakes to the present day dragonflights in this new, all-inclusive dragon codex.

This fully illustrated, comprehensive guide will highlight the creatures’ magical abilities, outline a chronological evolution of the dragons, and map out enchanting new zones. World of Warcraft: The Dragonflight Codex is a must-have companion piece to the latest expansion, World of Warcraft: Dragonflight.

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 2:10 PM

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Could end up with them tying vigor and talents to leveling instead of glyphs if it becomes main line

mossy meteor Oct 11, 2022, 2:10 PM

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not sure why it mentions khadgar as a bronze dragon tho

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 2:10 PM

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Yeah that’s not right

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Maybe it was Khadgar and someone from the bronze flight

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Chromie?

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Or just chromie

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Unrelated - I’m curious how they’ll develop dragon riding with each patch other than more mounts

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I don’t think giving more talents is necessarily a good idea but I would love to see patch specific glyph systems because collecting glyphs is fun

pulsar minnow Oct 11, 2022, 2:20 PM

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dense plover I don’t think giving more talents is necessarily a good idea but I would love to...

I’d like to see them add more abilities and specialization in what your drake does

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Like, for example, a brake button, or a loop-around to help you change direction at a whim

crystal pond Oct 11, 2022, 2:25 PM

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mossy meteor > Journey across Azeroth and beyond with this comprehensive guide, highlighting ...

Khadgar of the bronze dragonflight
Whaaa

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Also
Where is a book that must be about what happened in timeskip?

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 2:31 PM

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there's that untitled book, but it's been changed to release on november 24, 2026

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er

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2026

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which could just be hiding things

mossy meteor Oct 11, 2022, 3:18 PM

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https://twitter.com/SteveDanuser/status/1579852660827901952?t=gE7HKMMqVSAnf9ACeYaIFA&s=19

Steve Danuser (@SteveDanuser)

Not a spoiler, just an error.

Khadgar may use bronzer on occasion to give his skin a glow-up (he doesn't get outside the tower much), but he is not a bronze dragon.

plain violet Oct 11, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Great.

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Thanks!

ember blaze Oct 11, 2022, 3:29 PM

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the comments are already so mad 💀

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 3:31 PM

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that would've felt like a bit of a butt pull if it was true

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 3:40 PM

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I figured Khadgar thing was a typo

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 3:47 PM

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it is, he has a dialogue in the end of SL that he is going to die soon and checking ori

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dragons dont go to sl

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 3:52 PM

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Uh - I don’t think he said he was dying soon

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 3:52 PM

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he did ;)

upper pasture Oct 11, 2022, 3:52 PM

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uh...didn't ysera go to SLs?

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 3:52 PM

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ysera is special

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green

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 3:58 PM

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upper pasture uh...didn't ysera go to SLs?

Elune sent her there

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 4:14 PM

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nops

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 4:30 PM

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oh, new CM manager

cunning fossil Oct 11, 2022, 5:00 PM

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Wow players suck

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Lmao

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As in. Attitude wise.
Acting as if the new M+ changes as a good thing because they wanna stroke their own sticks about raiding being harder than M+

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The constant elitism is fucking annoying now.

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And it will only get worse with the change

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 5:02 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/shadowlands-season-4-ending-soon/1365409

cunning fossil Oct 11, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Another season, another KSM not achieved

rare hemlock Oct 11, 2022, 5:07 PM

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cunning fossil The constant elitism is fucking annoying now.

WoW Devs are former Top 10 Mythic Raiders. It's a top-down mentality

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 5:14 PM

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PREPATCH!

ember blaze Oct 11, 2022, 5:39 PM

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ocean pawn it is, he has a dialogue in the end of SL that he is going to die soon and check...

what

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 5:43 PM

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i think they mean this:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/jaina-and-redacted-dialogue-in-patch-9-2-5-spoilers-326470

Wowhead

Jaina and [REDACTED] Dialogue in Patch 9.2.5 (Spoilers)

Jaina has a conversation with an old friend in Patch 9.2.5. Beware story spoilers.

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 5:45 PM

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yup :)

ember blaze Oct 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

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he's super old i guess 🤔

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 5:47 PM

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eh not really
wow aging is a mess

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 5:48 PM

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I believe he is still like in his 30s-40s but Gul'dan cursed him when he was an apprentice of Medivh

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Unless they changed that

sinful wigeon Oct 11, 2022, 6:49 PM

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Is there a confirmed way to get crafting knowledge in dragonflight? All I've seen is just the vendor items for testing

plain violet Oct 11, 2022, 6:57 PM

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errant prairie I believe he is still like in his 30s-40s but Gul'dan cursed him when he was an ...

Medivh did cursed him, not Gul'dan, by taking its youth, but yeah, he got it back in most part, except for the hairs.

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Aah ok

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 7:00 PM

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they will probably have to use it as excuse
but ye everyone dies when blizzard decides

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 7:00 PM

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sinful wigeon Is there a confirmed way to get crafting knowledge in dragonflight? All I've see...

As skinning/Lwker in the beta i've found mine from skinning, treasures, some mobs. The skinning one was time gated. 10 per week, i think? Maybe 7

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 7:18 PM

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sinful wigeon Is there a confirmed way to get crafting knowledge in dragonflight? All I've see...

Lots of ways. Mobs, treasures, you can trade mettle for it (at a mediocre exchange rate), and you can also get it from rare harvested dragon shard things, and from weekly quests and crafting new items

tribal sand Oct 11, 2022, 7:40 PM

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dense plover Lots of ways. Mobs, treasures, you can trade mettle for it (at a mediocre exchan...

inscription can also craft knowledge items for every profession

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anyone else always gets kicked out of beta? world server are down message

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 7:42 PM

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Build maybe?

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Oh, just when you log in

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There's been stability issues with this build

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 8:14 PM

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Tomorrow's build better be massive and nearly release candidate worthy

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Copium

tribal sand Oct 11, 2022, 8:30 PM

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Copium

crystal pond Oct 11, 2022, 8:33 PM

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ocean pawn eh not really wow aging is a mess

He is
In body way

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 8:48 PM

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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1579934340040925184

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

PTR is DOWN

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PTR build soon?

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:02 PM

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up, there goes beta too

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 9:04 PM

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they are gone gone, are they done testing DF zones and leveling? 😮

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:07 PM

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No that's just how it works

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Vald will be going down soon

errant prairie Oct 11, 2022, 9:11 PM

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aah ok im always out so i dont see the other servers going down haha

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:25 PM

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yay build

worn crown Oct 11, 2022, 9:28 PM

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ocean pawn it is, he has a dialogue in the end of SL that he is going to die soon and check...

The exchange between him and Jaina is: Khadgar: I suppose I wanted to gaze upon the realms of Death with mine own eyes before...
Jaina: Is everything alright, Khadgar?
Khadgar: I feel the weight of years upon me, Jaina. The burdens carried. The choices made.
Khadgar: Hmph! Forgive the musings of an old man. I think I'll look around and see these Shadowlands a bit. See what wonders I can find.

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It implies that he thinks he will die soon(TM), but there is certainly room for it to be something else.

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:35 PM

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amm like? :p

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nope he is talking exactly for death.. in your terms, in a way accepting it maybe
i mean technically it can mean "before giving up my powers as guardian to someone else and being stuck with you earthlings"
but eh it's quite far tbf

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

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There won’t be another guardian

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Khadgar is supposed to be the last unless something happens

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

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his choice

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

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Peach is the next guardian

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

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MAYBE he gives it to Kalec - that would be cool

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

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i prefer to have a guardian

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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Guardian of beta

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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not a council full of .s

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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ocean pawn not a council full of .s

The last council was before Medivh

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Technically Khadgar is much weaker than guardian medivh

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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aegwynn not medivh

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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I thought aegwynn gave it to medivh instead of returning it

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:44 PM

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yup

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oh no meant if there isnt a guardian someone will fill the power vaccume

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Eh

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:45 PM

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and we see how this works irl xd

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Guardian specifically has a bunch of power from other mages

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Medivh was the last one to have that level of power

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Khadgar was just very strong

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:46 PM

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Med’an

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:46 PM

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ye but he can pass it

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:46 PM

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PAUSERS

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:46 PM

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oh medan is retconned dw

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404-ed in fact

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:46 PM

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sadge

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:47 PM

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they released a wiki-style book

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in its index he was..

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:47 PM

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Yeah Medan doesn’t exist as archmage or guardian in canon

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:47 PM

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Anyway

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Lettuce pray for music

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fishualprayer

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 9:48 PM

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ionic terrace Lettuce pray for music

I hope so - that and a fix for the WQ bug

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 9:48 PM

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Well login music needs to be in this or next week

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Assuming pre patch the week after that

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:49 PM

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can we question it

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like has it not happened :?

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 9:56 PM

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dense plover Guardian specifically has a bunch of power from other mages

Khadgar is the Guardian as of Legion, Medivh basically declared it as a title for the person fulfilling the role, not the person with the power of the council of tirisfal

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even if, yknow, Khadgar doesnt really want to call himself it lol

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 9:57 PM

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ye more of a political power and op enough to keep them reigned

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but i really prefer to have a respected guardian, rather than let councils rule... much like was in avatar

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its funny how aang was nice and all until republic city

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all nice intentions with horrifying future...

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 10:03 PM

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ptr build out

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it's here3

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login music

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@dense plover

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omg

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wow that was short tho so not the finished version hm

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maybe

candid ruin Oct 11, 2022, 10:13 PM

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ptr servers up

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still can't /quack madge

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:19 PM

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ionic terrace omg

Can’t wait to get home in an hour

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 10:20 PM

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sadly think it's PH

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it's only like 3 min long so

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:20 PM

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46047?

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Yeah it’s just under 3 min

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So probably trailer music

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Login music is around 10-14 min

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But it’s something

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Next beta will likely have more

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If they’ve got a piece, there’s more to come

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New action bars might be in this build

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Strings for the buttons were added

candid ruin Oct 11, 2022, 10:21 PM

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ptr blue post out

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3 extra bars are added, enable them by going to Options > Gameplay > Action bars.

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 10:22 PM

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nah it's not trailer music

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:22 PM

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They’re adding a sound effect for when you interact with an npc - probably an accessibility option

ionic terrace Oct 11, 2022, 10:22 PM

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it's something new, but an "eariler" version maybe

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:23 PM

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Looks like they might be adding salvage as a profession thing maybe

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And also looks like they removed the quack emote

candid ruin Oct 11, 2022, 10:23 PM

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they better not

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8 action bars now

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W

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:25 PM

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Pretty sure the class tuning stuff is just matching the stuff they said was coming

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Yeah 3 more so people can replicate their 14 UIs

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IE an emote bar or a toy bar or a bar for mounts

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Or a bar for menu shortcuts

ocean pawn Oct 11, 2022, 10:26 PM

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did you look at ret's changes? xd

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:28 PM

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did they just... entirely replace Sendrax's voice?

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or is it just a different filter

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Which one is Sendrax?

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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red drakonid from waking shores intro

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Probably filter

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They’ve changed the filter 3 or so times

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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its extremely different now is the thing

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Did they change it again on ptr? Or are you just replaying again

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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https://wow.tools/casc/preview/chash?buildconfig=0fcd76733d62991915fa18dfc1f1e278&cdnconfig=0e1ded74c742528da0e546e854493344&filename=sound%2Fcreature%2Fsendrax%2Fvo_1000_sendrax_4672591.ogg&contenthash=2da7f2d7e34d5a4455322f2b88cad8b6

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:29 PM

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I mean - they did it with the jailer

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Go listen to the first version of the jailer and the final - that’s all filter work

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You can do a lot

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I can’t listen on the train

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Yeah its a totally different voice

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some of the lines are just entirely different pronunciations and intonations

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:34 PM

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Maybe they re-recorded it

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Or it could’ve been placeholder for the actual voice actor

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IE they recorded it using a blizz employee as a demo

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It didn’t sound SUPER professional tbf

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But it did sound like someone trying

uncut vault Oct 11, 2022, 10:35 PM

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New one sounds a lot more traditionally feminine, which kinda sucks

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I liked that she was a big beefy lady with a deeper voice

dense plover Oct 11, 2022, 10:37 PM

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It sounded kinda cartoony before

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But you can always give feedback

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It can clearly still change

deep pawn Oct 11, 2022, 11:58 PM

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I like the music

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Very survivor sounding

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it is not as "obviously" warcraft as some previous themes though

mossy meteor Oct 12, 2022, 12:11 AM

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ptr is release candidate

cunning fossil Oct 12, 2022, 12:25 AM

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swagos

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and to be fair it is PTR

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not beta

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 12:26 AM

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has to be

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 12:57 AM

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whensd beta back up?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:05 AM

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tropic trail whensd beta back up?

my guess is since they just pushed a classic build - as soon as the beta version of what just went on PTR gets pushed

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its getting late though'

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might be tomorrow

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 1:06 AM

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bah

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that sucks :*(

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:06 AM

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we just got a classic build so its still possible ¯_(ツ)_/¯

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 1:06 AM

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i absolutely hate shadowlands in comparison

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like ugh

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i do not want to be in it

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 1:52 AM

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maybe early tomorrow

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:53 AM

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at this point, probably

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latest build weve had is 8 PST i think but since it isnt an emergency, probably not

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 1:53 AM

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besides, 10.1 needs to be ready now while 10.2 has a few more weeks

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:54 AM

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beta wont end until 10.0 expac launches

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10.1 ptr will start right after expac launch

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or right after raid

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:06 AM

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so 1 more hour and beta might be up?

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if not then then tomorrow?

errant prairie Oct 12, 2022, 2:06 AM

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correct

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:07 AM

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THAR SHE BLOWS

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:08 AM

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Finally

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It's fine though. I have retail stuff to finish

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:08 AM

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curious what the difference is

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:10 AM

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Probably just Evoker changes

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:11 AM

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trying to see build size to compare

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:11 AM

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?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:11 AM

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1.45GB

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:11 AM

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yay update

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:12 AM

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180 pages of added files on wow.tools

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:12 AM

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maybe music files?

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 2:12 AM

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adding tooltip bugs to more things than just world quests

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:13 AM

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hold on

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checking vs previous beta

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some of the "new" stuff is just stuff they removed from ptr

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still 68 pgs

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so - not nothing

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

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looks like work orders may finally be in? At least there's a bunch of new lua for it

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

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how lonmg is it going to initialize for?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

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i hope so

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

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its been initializing the download forever

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n/m there it goes

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

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yo im just getting to the login music

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i REALLY like this

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its mysterious

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:16 AM

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People complain it's too short

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:16 AM

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because it is

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it hasnt been mixed

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it doesnt have any of the zone themes

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its JUST the main theme

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:17 AM

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It only has 40s of WoW so in some ways it feels disconnected. I said earlier it sounds very much like survivor music, so very tribal

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 2:17 AM

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ENABLE_INTERACT_SOUND_OPTION_TOOLTIP Plays a sound cue when you become able or unable to interact with a target. neat new option

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:17 AM

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that tribal stuff IS the wow theme

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the 2nd bit at around 2 min is the new stuff

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:17 AM

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No, I mean after that ends, a different tribal sound

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:17 AM

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wow theme is about 2 min long or so

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the 2nd half is strings

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and the way it fades out, im fairly certain its supposed to be part of a fuller theme

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Hmm, to me or sounded like the WoW theme only went for like 40 seconds

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:19 AM

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nah

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its just that the OG wow theme usually gets mixed out before that point

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this one focuses on it longer - makes sense

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its trying to bring us BACK to azeroth

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:19 AM

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I'm used to going horde to alliance and I didn't hear any alliance

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:19 AM

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thats not what it usually does

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theres the drums and the back and forth strings

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and then it goes into the other bit - heavy horns

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the alliance theme is sorta mixed with the tribal stuff

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:20 AM

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Maybe I'll have to listen to another theme cause I generally only associate like the first 40 seconds of it as "wow theme"

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:20 AM

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listen to the classic wow theme

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:20 AM

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After that it sounded unfamiliar

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And I mean 40s after the warcraft leitmotif

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:21 AM

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im still surprised the login screen has no dragons flying around

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feels a bit tame

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i do think the ending theme with the strings is going to be the main dragonflight theme

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i have my fingers crossed that dragon riding will have its own music

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so that rapidly crossing areas doesnt ruin it

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:22 AM

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What, you think this is ff14 haha

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:22 AM

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not mount music

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specifically dragon riding because otherwise anytime you go over a new area the music will change

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it would be a mess

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:23 AM

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oh severs still down?

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damnit

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:23 AM

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give it 20-30 min

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:23 AM

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mkay

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:23 AM

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@uncut vault how did you know this is inarius

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is it obvious and I just didn't realize it lmao

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:24 AM

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uncut vault https://wow.tools/casc/preview/chash?buildconfig=0fcd76733d62991915fa18dfc1f1e27...

it sounds like its the same voice actress btw - they just removed a lot of the added bass

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49934 CONFIRM_SABELLIAN_CHOICE Sabellian's forces will provide you with opportunities to gain reputation. Are you sure you wish to choose Sabellian? 0
49935 CONFIRM_WRATHION_CHOICE Wrathion's forces will provide you with opportunities to gain reputation. Are you sure you wish to choose Wrathion?

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:25 AM

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Taunting is with etc and hots is dead

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:25 AM

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looks like theyre still expanding on the wrathion sabellian stuff

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last week i saw a ton of people complaining about key farming, so thats good

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"49945 PROFESSIONS_REAGENT_SLOT_LOCKED_SPECIALIZATION_ONE_SOURCE Unlock through learning the specialization: 1
49946 PROFESSIONS_REAGENT_SLOT_LOCKED_SPECIALIZATION_MULTI_SOURCE Unlock through learning one of the following specializations:"

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 AM

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hmm

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 AM

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reagent slots now tell you exactly how to unlock them

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 AM

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ive seen a lot of handwringing on twitter from high end raiders about how unready the xpac is

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 AM

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"49947 CRAFTING_ORDERS_CLAIMS_REMAINING_TOOLTIP You can currently fill %d more Public Orders. 1
49948 CRAFTING_ORDERS_CLAIMS_REMAINING_REFRESH_TOOLTIP You can currently fill %d more Public Orders. %dh remaining until more orders are available."

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 AM

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It really feels like they have a stake in the game to overhype how unfinished/doom and gloom everything is.

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:27 AM

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lean yew ive seen a lot of handwringing on twitter from high end raiders about how unread...

still 6 weeks of testing before launch and a bit more than that before raid

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:27 AM

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But that's just part of being a wow content creator in 2022

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:27 AM

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"42253 CHROMIE_TIME_PREVIEW_CARD_DEFAULT_DESCRIPTION Journey back to your favorite story and tackle challenges from the past that scale for characters level 10 - 60!|n|nPick a campaign and get to adventuring!"

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:27 AM

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I don't think it's that unfinished

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:27 AM

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chromie time now says 60 not 50

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looks like crafting orders are not daily but hourly now

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so faster regen which is probably good

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my guess is demand will far outweigh supply

uncut vault Oct 12, 2022, 2:28 AM

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dense plover it sounds like its the same voice actress btw - they just removed a lot of the a...

its 100% rerecorded either way

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:28 AM

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for sure

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definitely the same actress though

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much better performance

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MUCH better

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:28 AM

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crafting confuses me on the beta

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:28 AM

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i do miss the beefier sound

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but the actual performance is streets ahead

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:29 AM

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i dont understand how it works, i get the talents and stuff for crafting and picked specialization for leatherworking, but i can only go up to level 35 and the leatherworking trainer doesn't have anything to offer me, even things i wouldn't be able to learn aren't even there

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its confusing

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how can i level it if theres nothing new to learn

uncut vault Oct 12, 2022, 2:29 AM

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lean yew is it obvious and I just didn't realize it lmao

more just inference lol, he's the last of the major angels we haven't seen, and he's got a lot of hellish-looking stuff on the body, which fits him and lilith being the middle-ground between the conflict creating the nephalem

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:29 AM

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its backwards af

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:30 AM

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looks like the crafting order thing will be on the valdrakken map

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 2:30 AM

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my friends a giga-diablo nerd and hes like "yeah I suppose thats inarius" and he wasn't sure if he missed something, but it's a good inference

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:30 AM

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elemental storms might be enabled in this build

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:30 AM

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whats that?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:30 AM

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think legion demon invasions

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but the primalists

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:31 AM

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oh hell yeah

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that's awesome

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:31 AM

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and isolated to parts of the zone instead of the whole thing

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Legion had the best stuff

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:31 AM

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IE the cobalt assembly or the obsidian keep (or whatever its called)

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two new achievements

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"Unlock cataloging World Quests with the Dragonscale Expedition. Ready, Aim, Catalog! "

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"Reach the maximum friendship with Sabellian at the Obsidian Throne. The Obsidian Bloodline Title Reward: Paragon of the Obsidian Brood"

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Wrathion equivalent is called Loyalty to the Prince

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"Title Reward: Agent of the Black Prince"

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used to be one achieve with no title

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now its two

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Okay, so relistening. I'd personally only say from :15 to 1:10 is something I'd say is 100 % warcraft theme. Everything else sounds new to me. Starting around 1:40 sounds very brand new to me. In general the mix of drums and instruments just sounds like Survivor to me.

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:34 AM

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thats the very brand new i was talking about

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thats the core dragon isles theme

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Maybe I'm too used to going from that classic leitmotif to some variation of Stormwind

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I'm guessing 1:10-1:40 is just a heavily reinstrumentation to make it near unrecognizable

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 AM

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looks like they may have heavily modified the climbing and cataloging gear items

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Cause I can't place it

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 AM

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and they may be in game now?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 AM

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deep pawn Cause I can't place it

im fairly certain its a reinstrumented alliance theme

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Climbing was changed to unlock earlier

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Man, if it's Alliance they made it sound totally different

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Lacks anything that screams Stormwind

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:38 AM

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essence of tyr has been renamed

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its now Illustrious Insight and Lesser Illustrious Insight

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Lustrous Scales -> Lustrous Scaled Hide

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Tyrivite Ore -> Serevite Ore

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Polished Stone -> Glossy Stone

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All the blood stuff was changed too

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Bloodsoaked -> Infurious

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Bloody -> Infurious

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Finely Ground Gemstones -> Silken Gemdust

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"14 The Realm of Death NYI NYI NYI"

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chromie time leveling stuff WIP ^

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this is in ChrCustomizationChoice.db2

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so we may be getting those eyes as customization options

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lots of renown rewards are now account wide unlocks

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i will list them

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:41 AM

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anything about balance changes??>

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:41 AM

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tropic trail anything about balance changes??>

i cant find that

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but probably the same as PTR

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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any music added besides login?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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no

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not yet

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this is a very similar build to PTR

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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dang

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Ancient Waygates, Call of the Plains, Expedition Scout Packs, Expedition Climbers, Community Feasts, Magic Bound Chests, Siege on Dragonbane Keep, Aerial Challenges (there are dragonriding world quests?), Cataloging the Expedition, Buried Treasures, Call of the Hunt, Fishing Holes, Expedition Supply Kit

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:43 AM

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keeps disconnecting me from the server

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:44 AM

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so it seems like all of the stuff that was either world content or treasures is now account wide

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:44 AM

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weird

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:44 AM

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tropic trail keeps disconnecting me from the server

pretty sure servers arent up

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:44 AM

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i was just in

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played for 2 minutes

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then got DC'd

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bah none of my characters seem to be working

#

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rip

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bah

abstract ether Oct 12, 2022, 2:46 AM

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I was in long enough to save my layout again!

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 AM

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ohhh!

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work damn you!

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let me in!

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 AM

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i mean it says the server is down

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its clearly WIP

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 AM

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listen

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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but yeah - looks like work order UI should be in

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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I need to get out of the crapstain that is Shadowlands

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it is by far the worst expansion

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EVER.

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yay im in

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wooo

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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"Apologies for the late night build! Our Beta realms are back up with a new weekly build for you to test.

PSA for Mac Users: We’re aware of some critical issues affecting the Mac client, and are working on a client build to fix it. We expect to be able to deploy that tomorrow morning (West Coast time)."

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-beta-development-notes/1278546/18

World of Warcraft Forums

Dragonflight Beta Development Notes

Take a look a this week’s Dragonflight Beta update: CLASSES NEW TALENT SYSTEM DEATH KNIGHT Blood Shattering Bone – Damage reduced by 40%. Now properly deals increased damage when Tombstone consumes multiple Bone Shield charges. Frost Everfrost – Damage per stack increased to 6% (was 4%). Biting Cold – Increases Remorseless Winter da...

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:50 AM

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did they just nerf druids?

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again?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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its the same as PTR

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not more

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i certainly cant get in though

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new tutorial

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this is new

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looks like the UI is getting some changes - its broken

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cool

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bug report UI is broken

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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nah

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these are new

sharp thistle Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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“Hello I’d like to bug report the bug report.”

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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weekly quest was changed

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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tropic trail these are new

the number changes arent

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the talent row changes might be

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quests show on this map for dailies and others now

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deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:56 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omAVPa3fTk Stuff like this is why I say the DF theme sounds survivor-like.

YouTube

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dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:56 AM

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oh fuck

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:56 AM

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well oops

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:57 AM

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crafting orders have a minimap icon

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they moved a TON of recipes to the profession trainers

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seems to be true for other profs like cooking

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they simplified a bunch of cooking recipes too

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the bug submit thing is broken

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:01 AM

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"It's fine if you can't tell us anything is wrong

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 3:02 AM

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WQ tooltip is fixed'

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vigor is broken though

#

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it says if its an account unlock

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@uncut vault nozdormu has a new quest

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oh wait wut

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its sending me back to azmerloth? seems like a quest flag maybe broke

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that was weird

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 3:09 AM

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rofl

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blizz said they're shutting down the servers

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in a server message

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lots of game breaking stuff

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 3:09 AM

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dunno what bounty quests are

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 3:09 AM

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bug report is bugged and doesn't work

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 3:10 AM

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yeah theres a shit ton wrong

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i think the build worked internally

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but it doesnt work published

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so theyre gonna fix it tomorrow

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yo

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i think all the scout pack spots are also active

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SUPER BROKEN build XD

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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beta going down soon

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/any-update-on-servers/1365757/58

World of Warcraft Forums

Any update on servers

Looks like I spoke too soon, we’ve discovered some late-breaking stability issues with the realms and will need to take them offline to diagnose and fix them. Sorry for jumping the gun! We’ll aim to have them up and playable tomorrow. Have a great night everybody, thanks for being patient with us during this Beta process.

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

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https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/1580031792131674112?s=20&t=aD6QoAq888SXbdx-5uwO2A

Zorbrix 💙 (@Zorbrix)

I lied, Beta realms are going back down, we've got a few more things to fix. Sorry friends =(

We'll try to get things patched up tomorrow morning and back up for you.

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again - i think it worked internally

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exploded on the server

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:14 AM

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oh well

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damn it, they wiped all saved uis

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 3:15 AM

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happens every build

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its why i stopped changing anything that wasnt overlapping due to my changed UI scale

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:16 AM

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no, not every build

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 3:20 AM

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So broke

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:34 AM

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the tutorial doesn't go away

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oh had to swap specs

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 3:40 AM

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how many range dot specs are there in the game?

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:56 AM

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define what you're looking for

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have a dot they maintain AT ALL or primarily dot related

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 AM

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dense plover dunno what bounty quests are

There are just weekly quests there to go kill a couple rares. They start with "BOUNTY:" in the name, similar to many other quests in the past

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 4:10 AM

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oh ok

crystal pond Oct 12, 2022, 6:07 AM

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Those bugs are so bad that it makes them amazing dracthyr_lulmao

twilit lantern Oct 12, 2022, 8:16 AM

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i'm searching infos about https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=192012/icy-lock i know how it's locked but idk if there is a way to unlock them at this moment

Wowhead

Icy Lock

The location of this NPC is unknown. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date with the latest patch.

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 8:21 AM

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I saw a Fire version of that and couldn't really find a way to open it

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 8:21 AM

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I presume it's from the expedition renown

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at some level you get magical lockpicks

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as well as an ability with a 2h cooldown to open magical locks

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Actually that seems like it might be a specific treasure puzzle?

twilit lantern Oct 12, 2022, 8:31 AM

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ancient jasper I saw a Fire version of that and couldn't really find a way to open it

as i writed on comment, the npc summon the gameobject and the spell casted have two different summon, one ice and one fire version https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=376923/elemental-lock summon https://www.wowhead.com/beta/object=377587/molten-chest or https://www.wowhead.com/beta/object=377540/ice-bound-chest

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found it: https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=191421/rudimentary-magical-lockpick thanks for the renown info, it's indeed unlocked at renown 16

slim ingot Oct 12, 2022, 9:29 AM

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The beta realms are still down?

silent urchin Oct 12, 2022, 9:31 AM

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They came up for a time but were disabled as they were crashing constantly. Probably up later today after they push a new build with a fix

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 12:13 PM

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man

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that probably means not until later tonight

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this sucks

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(eastern time zone usa)

austere gazelle Oct 12, 2022, 12:30 PM

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tropic trail bug report is bugged and doesn't work

DEAD 😂

austere gazelle Oct 12, 2022, 12:31 PM

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silent urchin They came up for a time but were disabled as they were crashing constantly. Prob...

Yeah I tried logging in when they went up and was instantly crashed when I did one step

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 12:52 PM

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do they give a reason by the beta realms are down

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?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:17 PM

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slim ingot The beta realms are still down?

It’s only 6:15am PST

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Beta probably won’t be up until 10am at the earliest but they need to fix some of the really terrible issues (probably including some of the broken UI stuff, especially the bug report not working) - my guess is they’re going to push a newer internal build than they planned and so that’s how they’ll get it out early

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So we may end up getting more music if it’s in the internal build

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 1:44 PM

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ugh i just want beta up

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 1:54 PM

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tropic trail ugh i just want beta up

Wait a few hours - blizz isn’t even at work yet

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:20 PM

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I wonder if they updated any other profession equipment

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Though the alchemy staff being flipped finally is fantastic

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 2:22 PM

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dense plover Beta probably won’t be up until 10am at the earliest but they need to fix some o...

hopefully it stops the client crashing to desktop issues flying into valdraken .... also how do you report a broken bug reporter

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LOL

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:26 PM

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amber kiln hopefully it stops the client crashing to desktop issues flying into valdraken ....

It’s why beta got taken offline

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At least partly

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 2:28 PM

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it was happening for days

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 2:34 PM

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hey guyes is beta servers offline?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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amber kiln it was happening for days

I meant the beta reporter bug

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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rapid berry hey guyes is beta servers offline?

Yea

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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oooh

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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They had to take them down after last nights build

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It had too many bugs

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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lol how do you break the bug reporter

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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ech here goes my shaman ways 😄

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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It has to do with UI changes they made

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Probably the same reason the profession journals are glitchy and vigor was broken too

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They broke some UI stuff

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 2:36 PM

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ugh

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they broke the game 😄

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 PM

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They said they should come up sometime in the morning

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So my guess is in the next 3-4 hours we should get a newer build, which I’m hoping has music since this build is so broken they probably have to push a newer internal build

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 2:37 PM

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double push 😄

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Could also just be a fix build but I don’t see them coding enough fixes in the morning to get this working

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The other option is backdating to last build but I don’t see them doing that since they need to test the class changes

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 2:40 PM

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deletet he thundering 😄

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:41 PM

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cunning fossil As in. Attitude wise. Acting as if the new M+ changes as a good thing because t...

I don't understand why m+ players need the gear if they're not going to mythic raid?

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If m+ is your endgame content surely the ilvl doesn't matter past a certain point, and it becomes more about the challenge of getting 21, 22 etc.. with the same gear

errant prairie Oct 12, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Bait

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:43 PM

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It's not bait I'm being honest here

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I guess its a problem if pugs are demanding you have raid gear to do the m+ but that's more a problem with people

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And whichever gives better gear (raiding or m+) those kind of people will demand you go do the other content you dont want to get gear for the content you do

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So one piece of content will always have to suffer

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Unless they make different types of gear like for pvp, which isn't a terrible idea tbh

abstract ether Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 PM

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people in my guild guilt trip anyone not doing m+ to gear up for raiding. it's really annoying

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:47 PM

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Exactly, I only raid (for PvE, my real endgame is rbgs) and I don't want to do m+ to do my raids

abstract ether Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 PM

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like i'm sorry i don't have time for m+ on top of 6 hours of raiding per week lol

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 2:48 PM

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It's always going to be one way or the other unless they create seperate gear progression (raid gear is stronger in raids, m+ gear is stronger in m+)

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:00 PM

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sullen dawn I don't understand why m+ players need the gear if they're not going to mythic r...

at a certain point gear matters more for m+ than for raid

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Then raiders have to do m+ which isn't good

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:00 PM

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plenty of people in my guild are raid loggers

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and dont set foot in m+

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:01 PM

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sullen dawn Then raiders have to do m+ which isn't good

you dont

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Honestly the only solution is to seperate gear

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Well I was pressured to do it by my guild

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:01 PM

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well that's a bit different than pvp vs pve

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:01 PM

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I know but it would stop people complaining

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Just make them entirely seperate progression systems

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:02 PM

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at one point you could even argue world content only players should also have their own gear progression

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:02 PM

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Maybe they should

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If world content was in anyway difficult

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But it isnt

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:02 PM

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now youre complicating gearing and separating everything pve

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well if it only worked for world content then it wouldnt matter if they had 500 ilvl gear

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 PM

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3 sets is fine as world content is easy enough any gear is fine

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 PM

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idk man, i would rather not

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Unless you're doing warmode in which case pvp set is what you want anyway

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:03 PM

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i already hate having to have different sets for raid vs m+

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add in potential off specs

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and now you want me to have another whole set on top of that

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:04 PM

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It would give more weight to each progression, while stopping people complaining they have to do content they don't want to

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No need for world content set

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As any gear is good enough and no one checks your gear for world content

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So pvp set, raid set, m+ set

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:05 PM

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people will always complain no matter what

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Well they'd have less reason to complain

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Right now I'm happy with DF gearing

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But that's because I don't do m+

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I'm just trying to think of a solution that satisfies everyone

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 PM

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you werent pressured into m+ by your guild?

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:06 PM

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I was

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But in DF that will be less likely as the gear is lower

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:07 PM

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wdym

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it's gonna be higher

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like, if youre in any competitive environment, youre gonna have to do things you dont like

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and unless youre wf or hall of fame guild, requiring x seems overblown to me

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getting ce for my guild was never about forcing people to do x dungeons every week

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many people didnt bother

daring epoch Oct 12, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Is beta up yet

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KEKLEO

austere gazelle Oct 12, 2022, 3:21 PM

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sullen dawn I don't understand why m+ players need the gear if they're not going to mythic r...

because you're in a guild that is good enough to tackle mythic raid, so you don't see the point.
When you're in a casual guild ( like mine ) who is just a kind of huge family with people not having time to invest into mythic raiding, you have also some player that are interested in " harder " content, and thus, turns to mythic +.

Why do we need gear from mythic + to do raid? Because the other player that does not have nearly as time as the other stuffing themselves for mythic + will slow the raid and would not allow the guild to progress further. At this point you have the player that enjoy the competition that push the other forward in heroic raid to finish those. That's why the mythic + gear is needed. To still have fun for everyone without forcing the other to do content they don't want to ( or who do not have time to do it ) , and to progress as a whole friendly community

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You can see that as "unfun" on your side, but I'm only doing the raids for the lore ( which is lol as expansions are going by ) and the friendly gathering that it represent

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I'm not counting anymore on the raid to get stuff, I'm searching it in Mythic + dungeon. I'm having fun, and the feeling of progression for my character I can't have in a raid environment. Raid are for friendly content as a whole.

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Raid are a side content for me ( and after having progressed into competitive environment in vanilla, in HCG gaming guild, I'm not willing to commit to this again in any shape or form, so Mythic raid requires too much investment, and not only from me but a whole guild to have a stable roster, to be even considered at this point )

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So, to answer your question : some players do mythic + content to still have a feeling of progression for their own character, and to help their guildmate progress in raid content. Mythic dungeon gear is not " only for mythic raider " stuff. It's a really binary vision of things

austere gazelle Oct 12, 2022, 3:29 PM

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sullen dawn It's always going to be one way or the other unless they create seperate gear pr...

if they do this, they will kill a lot of smaller guilds, because raid content till heroic wont be tackled as it actually is, and will be made indirectly harder. Since a part of the wow community find that raid lacks incentive and are becoming boring, not sure this is the right direction to take.
On the contrary, in my opinion, they should make loot in raid being easier to get. Bring back the seals, introduce Emblem of Heroism that you can farm like Emblem of Valor, that allows you to improve your stuff or upgrade your current stuff. It will soften each and everyones feeling of " yeah, I did a raid for nothing, no drop for me " ( and will also give you a sort of progression toward a set goal each time you go into a raid, you know that at the end, your investment will pay because you'll be able to buy something )

ember blaze Oct 12, 2022, 3:46 PM

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every content should have a vendor

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idc if they limit it to weapons, and trinkets, and some giga rare items like the current season

wicked rampart Oct 12, 2022, 3:49 PM

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With the catalyst I do 8, 15s weekly to collect the mythic raid transmogs

Without that theres no reason for me to do them past getting keystone. Kinda blows ngl. I dont care about gear power I just want to collect armor sets, dont really have the time to mythic raid. :/

sullen dawn Oct 12, 2022, 3:58 PM

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ember blaze every content should have a vendor

Agree

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 4:27 PM

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beta still down?

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 4:53 PM

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yap

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 5:06 PM

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lame

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whyy!!!!

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Dragonflight beta

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Wont launch at all

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on my mac now

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i hit play it goes into launching... and nothing shows up not even error messages

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 5:19 PM

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beta off

abstract ether Oct 12, 2022, 5:19 PM

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they said they were fixing the mac client today, but you know how things go

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 5:20 PM

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new ui broke beta

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 5:20 PM

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ooh

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there had been serious issues

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with it

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on both intel and apple silicon

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but it was a mostly playable experiance

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 5:46 PM

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sooo then beta is broken for the day

zinc furnace Oct 12, 2022, 5:47 PM

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i feel a weird itch to play as healer this xpac... which healer does boinkers dps in the beta?

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 6:00 PM

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i cant even click on the beta button now

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weird

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the play button for button

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amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 6:00 PM

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I quit playing as a healer when they expected healers to have addons and shit and started yelling at me

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 6:00 PM

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oh

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its updating

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dugh

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 6:00 PM

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I get the play button too but I also get stuck at launching and nothing happens

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There is a blue post on wowhead saying they won’t be back up until tomorrow

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 6:03 PM

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eh?

mossy meteor Oct 12, 2022, 6:03 PM

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update

tropic trail Oct 12, 2022, 6:03 PM

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my client updated

daring epoch Oct 12, 2022, 6:07 PM

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PauseChamp

flint night Oct 12, 2022, 6:08 PM

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amber kiln There is a blue post on wowhead saying they won’t be back up until tomorrow

i don't see this?

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 6:09 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-beta-servers-offline-until-tomorrow-due-to-instability-329328

Wowhead

Dragonflight Beta Servers Offline Until Tomorrow Due to Instability

Blizzard has posted a short bluepost explaining that Dragonflight Beta servers are being taken offline in order to address instability issues after the recent build. Beta servers are expected to be available again sometime tomorrow, though the PTR remains open for testing.

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 6:09 PM

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that was last night was it not?

slim ingot Oct 12, 2022, 6:09 PM

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15 hrs ago

plain violet Oct 12, 2022, 6:10 PM

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Servers are semi-up.

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I can log into the realms, but not play uyet.

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Have we had a Beta update this week?

amber kiln Oct 12, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Sorry my fault didn’t check time stamps

plain violet Oct 12, 2022, 6:12 PM

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ancient jasper Have we had a Beta update this week?

Yes, yesterday!

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Strange, new update again..

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Done, really short.

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And realms offline.. again.

daring epoch Oct 12, 2022, 6:17 PM

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Pain

plain violet Oct 12, 2022, 6:17 PM

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:(

errant prairie Oct 12, 2022, 6:30 PM

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is PTR getting a new patch? O.o or did my dumbass never finished updating it?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:34 PM

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errant prairie is PTR getting a new patch? O.o or did my dumbass never finished updating it?

You didn’t finish

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Beta got a minor patch though

errant prairie Oct 12, 2022, 6:37 PM

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Aah okk ty

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:38 PM

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Don’t see any different tables or anything so it’s all code changes

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:40 PM

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Hm.. Looks like servers are, for now, up and working.

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Looks like partial UI rollbacks happened though

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Vigor UI is also still broken

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:42 PM

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Probably not a rollback but a fix

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Vigor and profession stuff is probably due to a change in the icon sheet

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And likely that needs lua changes

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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And Bug Report is still broken. Can't click Submit

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Might get another build this week to fix it

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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ancient jasper And Bug Report is still broken. Can't click Submit

Seriously?

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Yep

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Send a tweet to Zorbrix

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They’ll fix it - that’s too important

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

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poor Turnip

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:44 PM

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I dunno how they missed that

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:45 PM

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By rollback I meant the things I changed about the UI the day before the last patch hit were undone lol

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 6:45 PM

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it happens to some on every build apparently

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Actually.. Never mind. It looks like the UI was just completely reset back to the original Modern layout lol

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And preset was deleted

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:48 PM

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Presets are currently saved to the version with a string, and it’s supposed to auto disable but it’s sorta wiped right now - shouldn’t happen on live but you can’t report it currently anyway

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:48 PM

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Ahh

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 6:48 PM

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I’ve already tweeted the turnip, but others should too

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It’s early in the day so they can fix it

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 6:48 PM

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I would if I wasn't perma-banned from Twitter lol

flint night Oct 12, 2022, 6:49 PM

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uh oh

daring epoch Oct 12, 2022, 6:50 PM

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Decent

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Working as intended

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KEKLEO

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 6:54 PM

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I became a duck

cobalt wolf Oct 12, 2022, 6:54 PM

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Get ducked

glass flicker Oct 12, 2022, 6:54 PM

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Oh duck! That's pretty cool.

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 6:56 PM

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i can equip a fishing rod 😮

mossy meteor Oct 12, 2022, 6:57 PM

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https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/1580271158313639938?t=UqUxWqKyWcaiPJMSqO3fkA&s=19

Zorbrix 💙 (@Zorbrix)

At the risk of jinxing myself a 2nd time, Beta is back online and the Mac client should be updating properly now. We're still working on some fixes as noted on the forum thread.

Big thanks to all our Beta testers for rolling with the punches!

https://t.co/CL2H9ORGaE

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 7:00 PM

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This is no Music in-game whatsoever from what I can tell

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Not sure if that's always been a thing or I just wasn't paying attention to it lol

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:03 PM

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Nooooo! they removed mount equipment from Dragonriding mounts 😦

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:05 PM

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“Lastly, we’re aware that Bug/Feedback reporter is broken right now, we’re working on a fix for that and hopefully will have it deployed sometime later today or early tomorrow. We’re additionally working on some fixes to a few Profession UI elements and will try to hotfix those in but I don’t have an ETA for that just quite yet.”

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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ancient jasper This is no Music in-game whatsoever from what I can tell

Nope no music not new

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Only music is the login screen and that was just added

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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Ahhh mmk

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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Music is literally one of the last things added

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We might see a few tracks on ptr/beta for the primalist invasions and the dracthyr intro

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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there are invisible walls in broken isles in odd locations

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:07 PM

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But the rest might not come until during prepatch

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:07 PM

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livid walrus there are invisible walls in broken isles in odd locations

Well they wouldn’t have changed anything so those must be old

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:07 PM

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no like i know it is not there it shouldnt be there as there is also render issues

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in this location plus mini map

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:08 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:08 PM

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do not /reload

glass flicker Oct 12, 2022, 7:09 PM

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I wonder how many minimap icons have been made default.

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I'd like to be able to see everything, like I can right now.

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:10 PM

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A bunch

daring epoch Oct 12, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Can someone check if relic of the past ilvl is still same

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 7:53 PM

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there are 9 ranks in wrathion/sebalian rep

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dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Oh - it’s allegiance for the week and has a menu now

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I hope you can earn it outside of the keys and very difficult world quest

sharp thistle Oct 12, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I honestly just don’t know enough about sabellian because he was just… not there for the longest time.
Wrathion is egotistical but he means well

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 7:59 PM

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AFAICT, the WQ area mobs can’t be solo’d due to their health

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I prefer Wrathion because Sabellian is in it for his flight and dragons when the charge of the dragons is to protect the world and the mortals

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He doesn’t care about Azeroth or the mortals

sharp thistle Oct 12, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Yeah fair

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Wrathion has gone about it the wrong way but he means well

tulip sun Oct 12, 2022, 8:00 PM

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I mean part of the role is also to lead that dragonflights dragons

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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He legit wants to help mortals and such

tulip sun Oct 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Who wouldn't exist without sabellian

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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That and at least Wrathion, in his own misguided way, has been trying to help Azeroth. Sabellion was just off in Outlands for like 15 years

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Sabellian did what he thought was right but his mindset now that he’s back needs to change

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He is scornful and distrustful of mortals

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And he has no cares for Azeroth if it doesn’t affect the dragon flights

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Also the fact that he almost immediately starts lying to us and Wrathion the moment after we meet him isn’t great

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How can I trust someone who acts untrustworthy?

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Wrathion means well but just causes multiple invasions of Azeroth

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Sucker is gonna be what leads the void in too

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Just watch

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 8:15 PM

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i mean - he did but also we got new allies, we beat the legion didnt we?

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like - his plan was crazy

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but it DID work

plain violet Oct 12, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Got a point for Sabellian.

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He lied to us despite the fact that he still used mortals during BC.

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He could have changed a little.

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Lying to pretend for the throne to Alex, who soon discover this and don't want to be a part of (smart of her)

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 8:17 PM

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Yeah Alexstrasza wasn't having any of their shit

plain violet Oct 12, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Yup, that give her much credit.

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 8:44 PM

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I think it worked in spite of Wrathion. And we certainly never did it by "unifying" like he wanted

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Turns out all he needed was Draenei, Illidan, and a rag tag bunch of adventurers

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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deep pawn I think it worked in spite of Wrathion. And we certainly never did it by "unifyi...

uh

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we definitely unified in legion

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horde and alliance ignored boundaries to work with class halls

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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No, certain people did, not the factions themselves

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Half the plot of legion is the Horde and Alliance armies were fighting too much to deal with the problem

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So it was a mix of heroes and champions.

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 8:54 PM

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Which, in the end, are the true backbone of the Alliance and Horde.

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 9:12 PM

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huh.. they seems happy

coarse quail Oct 12, 2022, 9:20 PM

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livid walrus huh.. they seems happy

Mrglmrgll😃

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 9:20 PM

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ancient jasper Which, in the end, are the true backbone of the Alliance and Horde.

we don't see the massive armies that are supposed to be there canonically

livid walrus Oct 12, 2022, 9:26 PM

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😮

rapid berry Oct 12, 2022, 9:46 PM

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so beside that i had to redo my ui, any major things added to game?

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:28 PM

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dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 PM

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yeah the strings said this would exist

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does it work?

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my guess is no

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 PM

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it does

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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huh

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cool

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does it scale properly?

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also do you happen to know how to check for beta hotfixes?

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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no, sorry

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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damn

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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i'm testing it right now

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

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waiting for the bug report button to work

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:45 PM

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it's there for me?

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what about it doesn't work

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:45 PM

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ionic terrace what about it doesn't work

the submit button

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:45 PM

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ok lmao

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i see

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:47 PM

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work orders arent in - just a map icon

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the npcs are gone actually

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pvp world quests are back

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oh thats cobalt assembly

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that makes sense

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:50 PM

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seems like it's working

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:54 PM

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huh

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so - problem im noticing

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theres like 9 WQs on the entire map

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thats - not great

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they made some dragonriding changes

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"Hello Dragonriders,

With today’s update, we’d like to share a couple notes:

When Dragonriding Racing, the next ring now emanates a sound to help players triangulate its position
We’ve fixed a bug wherein the forward boost of the double jump launch would occur earlier in the launch
New tour side quests have been added, inviting players to complete all of a zone’s time trials for additional experience
    Once a player completes all tours, they unlock advanced races and a new set of tour sidequests to complete those

New Known Issue:

While recharging, the Vigor UI shows a repeating texture. Apologies for the inconvenience here.

"

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:55 PM

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dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:55 PM

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looks right

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cool

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rep questlines have names - this seems interesting

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ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:58 PM

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ah

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:58 PM

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huh - iskaara has 30 ranks

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:58 PM

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dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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and this might be related to the white banner?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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ionic terrace

oh so thats not quite scaled right is it

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

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nope

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 11:00 PM

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valdrakken questline has multiple parts with DIFFERENT names

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valdrakken rep is also 30

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ohnaran and dragonscale are 25

lean yew Oct 12, 2022, 11:03 PM

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I suppose at this point they're not going to be opening the bfa raids for old world testing

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Which is super annoying b/c they -never- have old world scaling active

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and its -always- a post-launch issue

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people have to make forum posts after launch and go "theres no scaling for bfa raids yet" like it's something that doesn't happen every xpac

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yeah theres no old world scaling in bfa dungeons yet

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and ive reported it at least twice

abstract ether Oct 12, 2022, 11:08 PM

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guys. where is the mission table. how will I get my augment runes this time

upper pasture Oct 12, 2022, 11:13 PM

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abstract ether guys. where is the mission table. how will I get my augment runes this time

no mission table this time around

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also that thundering rework

deep pawn Oct 12, 2022, 11:14 PM

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it'll depend on if 5 marks go out or just 4

upper pasture Oct 12, 2022, 11:20 PM

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im assuming it's either 2/4 and never the tank. which sucks for the tank but makes sense

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 11:24 PM

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HmmNote

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 11:25 PM

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ionic terrace <:HmmNote:987580012037304390>

UI is probably broken for the same reason the others are

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are you doing threads or normal leveling?

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 11:26 PM

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threads

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well...

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the followup quests after you pick a zone aren't there

ancient jasper Oct 12, 2022, 11:27 PM

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Hm.. Still no Evoker defensive buffs. Gonna be interesting to see if they decide to go forward with them as squishy as they are

ionic terrace Oct 12, 2022, 11:30 PM

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yeah threads needs some work, can't get the "fill up bar" quests

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haha they even applied it to torghast powers (not my image)

uncut vault Oct 12, 2022, 11:45 PM

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dense plover valdrakken questline has multiple parts with DIFFERENT names

Still no questline for the centaur?

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 11:47 PM

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uncut vault Still no questline for the centaur?

just the hunts I think

uncut vault Oct 12, 2022, 11:49 PM

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Weird, since last build datamining said the main story of DF is tied to progressing all four reps

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and Plains clearly has a storyline given the Malfurion datamine lol

dense plover Oct 12, 2022, 11:58 PM

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uncut vault Weird, since last build datamining said the main story of DF is tied to progress...

might be tied to the hunt

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ill double check

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maybe tied to this?

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 12:51 AM

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another 10.0.2 build on vendor

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i bet we get that build this week to fix bug reporting and the UI stuff

deep pawn Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 AM

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well it's crunch time

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 1:40 AM

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considering the amount of bugs? yeah

lean yew Oct 13, 2022, 2:24 AM

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i can't turn this quest in

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rather I cant get credit for this quest to complete it

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and I cant report the bug

ancient jasper Oct 13, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Which quest?

deep pawn Oct 13, 2022, 2:47 AM

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Blows my mind PTR is a release candidate

amber kiln Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 AM

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ooof i just logged into dragonflight beta

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i think its in a worse state

ancient jasper Oct 13, 2022, 2:51 AM

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I feel like there's gonna need to be some extreme crunching going on if they plan on an October 25th release date

amber kiln Oct 13, 2022, 2:51 AM

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then it was a few days ago

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:58 AM

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amber kiln then it was a few days ago

some UIs are

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everything else is about the same

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 4:47 AM

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i found a random puzzle

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doesnt work though

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cant report it because the button doesnt work still

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uh - i never got story leading up to the vault

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is there supposed to be?

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:07 AM

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the msq drops you directly in front of the vault

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thats the end

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 5:09 AM

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that didnt happen for me

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:14 AM

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Are you around levels 68-70?

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 5:16 AM

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errant prairie Are you around levels 68-70?

im at max

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i have no chapters left

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:16 AM

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weird

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 5:16 AM

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i think they mightve encrypted it and so it just ends early

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:16 AM

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maybe

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 5:17 AM

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It always seemed to have a weird cutoff, so possibly

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:17 AM

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I do hope thats the case tbh

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 5:17 AM

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like it just went "hey lets go to the vault" and that was about it

proper scarab Oct 13, 2022, 10:59 AM

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soo no date for pre-patch yet? 😄

deep pawn Oct 13, 2022, 11:55 AM

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Assume 10/25 unless delayed a week

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 11:56 AM

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We did get the season end warning

mossy meteor Oct 13, 2022, 12:10 PM

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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1580521990682599426

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

I have no idea what happened but this new build is a mess

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6 weeks

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 12:11 PM

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yeah a ton of UI stuff is very broken

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but given it's like.. everything

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it's probably a relatively simple bug to fix

ocean pawn Oct 13, 2022, 12:12 PM

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looks gallifreyan

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 12:12 PM

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Most of it was working previously, but just seems like things are all misplaced now

proper scarab Oct 13, 2022, 12:13 PM

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deep pawn Assume 10/25 unless delayed a week

ok!

proper scarab Oct 13, 2022, 12:13 PM

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silent urchin We did get the season end warning

good point ^^

main elk Oct 13, 2022, 12:55 PM

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I may have missed a post somewhere (there have been so many DF ones!), but has the WoW Team discussed their philosophy for raid difficulties in DF? My guild found that Shadowlands raid bosses were tuned so much higher than in previous expansions to the point where we missed out on two AotCs this time around. We're not a hardcore team, and we allow anyone who wants to raid come with us, but we still used to be able to achieve the feat of strength. It was really rough his expac, and I was wondering if there was any indication if it would go back to the way it was.

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 1:03 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/lessons-learned-sepulcher-was-an-arms-race-that-wont-be-repeated-in-dragonflight-327732 Ion has mentioned a few things in interviews, mostly a little while back

Wowhead

Lessons Learned: Sepulcher was an Arms Race that Won't be Repeated ...

During a Dragonflight interview with Towelliee, Game Director Ion Hazzikostas commented on lessons learned in Shadowlands. Referring to Sepulcher as an "arms race," he admitted defeat, acknowledging that it wasn't the best experience for the playerbase.

main elk Oct 13, 2022, 1:08 PM

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silent urchin https://www.wowhead.com/news/lessons-learned-sepulcher-was-an-arms-race-that-won...

Thanks!

livid walrus Oct 13, 2022, 1:47 PM

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bodyless

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 1:48 PM

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yeah, a lot of the djaradin are like that

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not really sure why

daring epoch Oct 13, 2022, 1:52 PM

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Anyone think their rescaling is finished, cause shit seems bit weird

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:09 PM

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silent urchin yeah, a lot of the djaradin are like that

That’s a new bug

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:09 PM

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daring epoch Anyone think their rescaling is finished, cause shit seems bit weird

It’s not

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they JUST implemented SLs into chromie time - it’s gonna see changes in every build even after prepatch releases

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 2:09 PM

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I presume there's some new skin texture or something that isn't working properly

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I'd report it, but y'know

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:09 PM

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silent urchin I presume there's some new skin texture or something that isn't working properly

I bet it’s a code issue like profession UIs

daring epoch Oct 13, 2022, 2:10 PM

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I hope ur right, i been reporting shit but nafing

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:10 PM

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They’re probably referencing their texture sheets incorrectly

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We might see a new build this week

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They put out a higher vendor build yesterday and with the report button still broken, they need to get another build out

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 2:10 PM

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Maybe? Not sure why it would just be some djaradin if it's a bigger reference issue

plain violet Oct 13, 2022, 2:11 PM

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Do you also have the problem of not being able of creating dracthyrs for now?

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:11 PM

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silent urchin Maybe? Not sure why it would just be _some_ djaradin if it's a bigger reference ...

Could just be one sheet

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:11 PM

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plain violet Do you also have the problem of not being able of creating dracthyrs for now?

On beta?

plain violet Oct 13, 2022, 2:14 PM

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On beta yes, all realms.

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Even with no dracthyrs created...

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:20 PM

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Huh

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I haven’t tried in the newest build. Could be a bug due to them rushing a new build out to fix the severe instabilities

vast gyro Oct 13, 2022, 2:26 PM

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anyone else having trouble staying connected to the beta servers atm?

silent urchin Oct 13, 2022, 2:27 PM

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had client crashes, but not DCs

grim anchor Oct 13, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Good morning wowhead community, are there any beta versions of the class guides yet?? I'd love to try out some Evoker and Shadowpriest on the beta, but my old brain gets easily distracted when actually looking at talents and abilities

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 2:48 PM

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grim anchor Good morning wowhead community, are there any beta versions of the class guides ...

Think class guides will release during prepatch

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Balance tuning isn’t final so making a guide now could be a waste of time

plain violet Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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dense plover I haven’t tried in the newest build. Could be a bug due to them rushing a new bu...

Possible... thanks you!

grim anchor Oct 13, 2022, 2:53 PM

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Thank you!!

silver copper Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM

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Yeah though it's very close to time

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About 12 days now

edgy ivy Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM

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proper scarab soo no date for pre-patch yet? 😄

If Blizzard is consistent they'll announce the prepatch date today, 10 am pacific

silver copper Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM

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Yeah

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Unless they gunna sneak that shit in

edgy ivy Oct 13, 2022, 3:36 PM

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The date for every major patch since 9.0 was announced exactly 12 days before release

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 3:37 PM

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i just want the new Afterlives/Warbringer, it creates so much hype plus its fun to watch

pastel wind Oct 13, 2022, 4:00 PM

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yeah the bastion afterlives sold me for SL 😔

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 4:58 PM

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errant prairie i just want the new Afterlives/Warbringer, it creates so much hype plus its fun ...

It’ll happen

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Probably this week or next will be the first, probably related to Dracthyr backstory

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 4:59 PM

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PES2_SellCopium

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I hope so though.

deft carbon Oct 13, 2022, 5:07 PM

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wanna some beautiful screenshots from Beta?

ancient jasper Oct 13, 2022, 5:21 PM

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I REALLY hope Empowered spells being interrupted by poke damage/DoT damage is just a bug because holy shit it sucks while trying to Heal.

nocturne totem Oct 13, 2022, 5:33 PM

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Does the Human racial that increases reputation gains interact with Dragonflight faction renown at all?

errant prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:46 PM

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It should.

deep pawn Oct 13, 2022, 5:56 PM

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Woo, prepatch event testing. About time

dense plover Oct 13, 2022, 6:41 PM

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ancient jasper I REALLY hope Empowered spells being interrupted by poke damage/DoT damage is ju...

It only happens if you move or if they actually interrupt you

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So either you are moving or they are using an ability that would interrupt any cast bar

languid yoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:43 PM

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no I get it too

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last build (not sure about this) I even had some spells like Swiftmend or Rejuv interrupt me