beta-ptr-spoilers

[rain cave]

like a mage staff with dragon themes

that changes based on spec or something

or a warlock dagger with a weird dark magic dragon thing going on

[crystal pond]

Yeah
Class related questline will be cool

We must have dk questline with red dragons

With the thing that...
Dk murdered dragons in ruby lifeshrine

[rain cave]

👉👈

oopsie

[livid walrus]

maybe we go there in prepatch and than we say oh maybe we shouldnt move it again

[ember blaze]

i highly doubt this. Content already has new weapons

[rain cave]

yeah but I mean look at stuff like back in vanilla with anathema/benediction, lok'delar

rogue daggers in cata

staff in cata

etc

[coarse quail]

Amazing!?
Hope they will add it to more docks and other things...

[crystal pond]

I wonder if blizzard banned dracthyr for ptr because of their questline

[tropic trail]

Why does the PTR disconnect every ten seconds

[plain violet]

Probably just a reference to some employee at Blizzard.

[dense plover]

Removed? They probably didn’t. It’s likely encrypted

When they encrypt stuff, it shows as removed because it’s unclear what file is what without a key

[crystal pond]

I mean
It was public for weaks and only after they encrypted it
Wonder why

[dense plover]

Because someone made an oopsie

And they possibly made changes that we haven’t seen since it’s encryption

[cinder sable]

it's where portal room in center?

[crystal pond]

Because its not finished
It was public for weaks
If they did a oopsie it will be encrypted right after it was droped
But its wasnt

Ffs my internet

[livid walrus]

yea

one of the side rooms over there

[cinder sable]

why they added their in legion dal... hm

[livid walrus]

maybe khadgar wanted to get dala to dragon isles but than say maybe we shouldnt

[ember blaze]

@rain cavewell if we look at legion which is the most recent, you got your weapon the second you set foot in there

[livid walrus]

kalec is one of the council of six

maybe related to that

[crystal pond]

Kalec said no

[pulsar minnow]

They added it back in actually

[crystal pond]

w h e r e

[pulsar minnow]

At least on WoW tools to my knowledge

For a while it wasn’t even in the database and Wrathion was using his old model in-game.

I don’t have beta to confirm that’s it’s implemented in-game but it’s back

[crystal pond]

Well on beta wrathion still have his old model too
I can see wrathion new model but its only a number atm

[uncut vault]

I’m pretty sure wowtools keeps models cached from whatever the most recent available build is

If you look at what build it’s from, it will probably be a much earlier one

[rain cave]

what?

[uncut lintel]

WE R SO CLOSE TO PWE PRATCH

EXCITE

[rain cave]

are we?

[ember blaze]

@rain cave?

[uncut lintel]

we are?

[rain cave]

what

[crystal pond]

Df prepatch after wrath launch 100%

In late october early november

[pulsar minnow]

Leak said prepatch October 25 and launch November 28 so… yeah sounds right

[kindred delta]

Its so funny, when i first started the ptr, i had the option to create a drachtyr for a short time. I got i to the creation and all but i couldnt finish it, cuz i missed a achievement for the race. When i went back to the char screen and into the creation screen again, the drachtyr option was gone. Maybe its buggy, maybe its not supposed to be there but anyways im happy to see what my dragon could look like.

[signal bone]

do we know if the wrath promo mount is a dragonriding mount?

[upper pasture]

doubt it

but will update when i get it

[ember blaze]

something is off

[rain cave]

they had an argument

[uncut vault]

no talk me i angy

[languid yoke]

[cinder sable]

someone found new mobs?

in dal (legion) as min 2

[willow raptor]

Is there a way to get a level 60 in the PTR to just test stuff

[dense plover]

Copy character

[willow raptor]

Yeah but if you don't have that class already at 60

[dense plover]

No

It’s PTR

Not beta

[willow raptor]

Why have a test realm if you aren't gonna give people the tools to test stuff

[dense plover]

Well they almost never do templates on PTR

But they also did a poor job providing testable content; it’s essentially just world content and small group instance content

[opaque pewter]

Different scope

[upper pasture]

like i suspected it's just a normal mount, if it was gonna be dragonriding they would have told us all about it

[dense plover]

It might be dragon riding capable in DF

[silent urchin]

I doubt it, no mounts are dual purpose right now

[upper pasture]

yeah, RN it's just a mount so unless they change the mount itself it's currently just a mount

in the beta dragon riding mounts have dragonriding flagged on their journal icon

it would be pretty neat if they made all the older proto drakes DR capable but i doubt. i'd like to flying around on my purple guy

[errant prairie]

It could be turned into a skin as some people are speculating. It uses the same model as a proto-drake, and they do technically have the technology for it. For example the gladiator reward for dragonflight.

[deep pawn]

so I have a keystone

but portals are gone, nooo

so with keys, torghast, and mage tower off I guess this first ptr build is about UI and world stability

[ionic terrace]

huh another beta push

seems like not much of anything

[silent urchin]

servers didn't go down so probably some hotfix I guess

[languid yoke]

the only instance content you can do on PTR right now is super irrelevant and not helpful for testing

idk what this PTR build is supposed to do, edit mode is too broken to be any use and many trees that I wanna try are simply incomplete

[deep pawn]

the ui and world stability

[willow raptor]

Huh

Shaman still has double stormkeeper

[deep pawn]

why wouldn't it?

[cunning fossil]

Finally gonna try PTR oml. Man I am pumped lord

Jesus christ the Talent window is huge what

Is it possible to copy paste Wowhead loadouts yet or is that not available?

How does one edit their bars? sry I'm asking questions

NVM i found it lmao

[cunning fossil]

I was editing my bars and I got kicked oput ;-;

Happened again ;-;

[dense plover]

they really need to provide grid snapping

[deep pawn]

the window actually felt small to me.

after wowhead's UI the in game is a bit hard to read

[cunning fossil]

fair

[cunning fossil]

Agreed. My OCD is going bananas

I literally just want to put them allon the same line

[crimson jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

tbf l got a big monitor so everything is small when l dont pump up ui size

it's a scaling nightmare

especially was for elvui

which l ditched by now

so can't wait for new base ui on retail

[cunning fossil]

LIterally so excited

[cunning fossil]

I'm bout to play this dumb ass built on PTR nice

[mossy meteor]

i'm not a big fan of the prot paladin tree

but i guess the talent trees are a bit buggy on ptr

[deep pawn]

Some talents aren't working but what are you not liking in particular

[livid walrus]

some plants in the druid order hall has texture issues

[plain violet]

Isn't it your graphical card?

[crystal pond]

Saw many ppl was saying that df killing their card very bad and this is happening

This happening sinse beta opened

[rain cave]

The ancient game engine strains against the modern shackles holding it down

[mossy meteor]

there was a new invite wave last night apparently

still no beta for me

doesn't seem like content creators will get to give away "beta keys" anymore

[deep pawn]

Towellie said he wasn't getting any keys for a couple weeks

[crystal pond]

Yeah wow game code is really old

[dense plover]

Same

[mossy meteor]

i'm more shocked for you

than me

[dense plover]

I don’t think they’re going to do keys

There’s like 2-3 months left in beta

If they were doing keys it would’ve happened already

[mossy meteor]

still, if there's weekly builds that's like

9-ish builds

and 9-ish invite waves

[dense plover]

Yeah not worth figuring out keys

Weekly invites are much easier

[deep pawn]

Just going off what he was told. He said he was told keys would be in a couple weeks after beta launch.

[livid walrus]

there is a need to check starting zones with the new classes/race combos.. just the second and third quest already give me the same reward and it is not an upgrade .

nvm it was visual bug

[crimson jasper]

yo he's flashy

he didn't get the note that tinker isn't the new class

[crystal pond]

Good boi

[rain cave]

"Next expansion teasing playable tinkers and gryphon race!"

[uncut lintel]

oh

gnoll playable plz

GNOLL TINKERS

OMG

< . < now i wanna draw that

[ember blaze]

dracthyr tinkers

[uncut lintel]

eh

[rain cave]

tuskarr tinkers

xd

[uncut vault]

this is... a very weird sounding drake customization lol

[cunning fossil]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/hunters-binding-shot-will-become-a-3-second-stun-instead-of-a-root-328779?webhook WINNING

[ember blaze]

losing*

[cunning fossil]

winning?

[ember blaze]

Downgrade from live isn't winning

[cunning fossil]

i don't believe it's a huge downgrade

changing to an AoE stun is pretty nice. Gives hunters utilty that they didn't have before

and then after the stun is over you take less damage

Like this is better than just the breaking on damage change

[ember blaze]

they did already though with an unbreakable root

far more flexible and powerful than an aoe stun every other class has

[crimson jasper]

l aint no hunter but it's what the community feedback wanted

[crystal pond]

They are too powerfull

[dense plover]

I think it’s for custom unlocks like pvp forms and such

[uncut vault]

The PvP mount is separate atm is why Im curious, plus the "full transformation"

[livid walrus]

so i finished the storyline and ended up at level 68 . and it the world quests appeared on my map 😮

so you wont need to get to max to unlock world quests

[uncut vault]

They do definitely need to tune xp gains though

MSQ gives way too little haha

[livid walrus]

yea :p

at least till the last zone

[ember blaze]

they didnt touch that on the xp nerfs though 🤔

@livid walrushow did you finish? Im at level 69 and I could not accept alex's quest because it was gray

[livid walrus]

they might changed it ?

[ember blaze]

@livid walrusoh was it recent after the few updates?

im a few days since i last went there

[livid walrus]

yea i finished it yesterday

[ember blaze]

oh nice, thanks for telling me

i'll go check it out

[ember blaze]

a flight path directly on the raid. Hallelujah.

[ancient adder]

It.. looks like a mix of Black Temple and Uldir

[sour chasm]

dracthyr npc zepplin master on ptr

looks disgusting

[uncut lintel]

oh my god...

id rather stay in shadowlands actually taht thing is scary

[proper palm]

Wtf

[crimson jasper]

christ, thats why I dont like visage forms, just stay dragon pls

[upper pasture]

Tbf I like my visage forms to be as less dragon as possible or else why bother to pop into visage then

[uncut lintel]

dragon

is why

u shuol.dnt use visage

[upper pasture]

meh, the whole point of the visage is to assume a different look to blend in why would I as my character want to expose myself while trying to blend in.

[sour chasm]

i like visage form anyway, its gonna be my default

i like the dracthyr form, something about visage form looks nice

[sour chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802981995717722114/1018284617171738734/unknown.png

shadow priest lookin good

[rain cave]

bout to call you fucking oribos

[sour chasm]

lol

[glass fulcrum]

lmao man that is a lot of ghosts

[upper pasture]

Who you gonna call?

[uncut vault]

fun bug with dracthyr hats that honestly should stay as an option lol

[low hull]

Anyone know what the 'adventurer' class is? Just stumbled across it on PTR. PH or they messing with us?

[sour chasm]

mm maybe a professions thing? im not too sure.

[deep pawn]

it's technically what you start as on Exile's Reach

[silk cape]

Sometimes it recharges vigor while flying, sometimes it doesnt. Is it kind of bug?

[pulsar minnow]

You only recharge vigor while flying when you’re at max speed

That’s when the blue aura is around your dragon

[silk cape]

Ye!

🙂

[proper crystal]

So here's something moderately interesting, I opened PTR and a character from a previous (pre-SL) PTR, who was wearing a guild tabard, is now showing up as this 😂

[rain cave]

friend just posted this

https://tenor.com/view/mylo-dancing-gif-26320057

[gloomy tangle]

Hope they have the Timelord title

[rain cave]

already do I think

from deaths of chromie

[cosmic beacon]

From the looks of wowheads comments the chromie scenarios are still available to do?

Need to get that title

Goes perfectly with bronze dracthyr + waist of time

[plain violet]

Still available yes!

[livid walrus]

there are two more new npcs in sw!

another one!

so much npcs added in this build

[ionic terrace]

I believe a few of them are player references

[livid walrus]

player references ? like mythic raiders ?

[ionic terrace]

idk

[livid walrus]

streamers?

[ionic terrace]

just random players

most of them seem to be guild leaders

[livid walrus]

strange

[ionic terrace]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/emerald-dream/Krazore

[livid walrus]

interesting

the first two i sent are quest related

[ionic terrace]

yeah

and cheeso

the guy in legion dalaran

[livid walrus]

i am going to check other cities like ironforge

[ionic terrace]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=197780/reviette and https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/reviette

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=197752/raamsheld and https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/shadowsong/raamsheld

[livid walrus]

and than i will check horde ones

where those four are ?

[ionic terrace]

idk i think raam is in SW but i'm not sure

Reviette I got from the database

[livid walrus]

i did find him . but i might misst them

what if they added npcs in shattrath too ?

[ionic terrace]

most of them just seem to be flavour

[silent urchin]

Interesting. Any idea if there's relevance? Or did they just pick players randomly to flesh out the world a bit?

[ionic terrace]

No clue

[livid walrus]

those are part of quest

[ionic terrace]

yeah some of them are, some aren't

[livid walrus]

those you recruit to dragon isles

[ionic terrace]

ok

i don't have beta so LOL

ty!

[livid walrus]

i guess but i think they relate to those you recuite

there is an orc you talk to next to them

org doesnt seems to have such npcs like of sw so far

i think this one is new in Ironforge

[ionic terrace]

yeah

is she part of the quest?

[livid walrus]

no. but i think she is the counter part of the gnome from sw.

who used to have druid set

and now rouge like

[ionic terrace]

o right yeah i saw that tweet

[livid walrus]

i think thye counter of each other, as they both appear next to this stable thing

[ionic terrace]

might have to make a list of these, since I already know people will be asking about them in Secret Finding discord

lol

[livid walrus]

lol

go ahead 😛

time to check shattrath

[ionic terrace]

i'm not seeing anything yet

[livid walrus]

btw are you on ptr?

[ionic terrace]

yes

don't have beta

[livid walrus]

all those above are in ptr too ?

[ionic terrace]

yes

[livid walrus]

cool

i doubt there are new ones in shattrath but i just want to check to be sure

i took many pics for wowpedia so if there is something i didnt see or out of place iwould be aware , i am almost sure

[ionic terrace]

have you checked silvermoon

or exodar

[livid walrus]

i am going to exodar now

nothing that i can see

did you check thunder totem ?

[crystal pond]

Probably content creators

[rain cave]

Thunderbluff

Though I don't blame the misremembering

That place is more barren than wildstar

[cunning fossil]

Got builds for almost every spec now let's get it

[uncut vault]

is this from a newer build? I havent seen any of these mounts pop up anywhere before seeing it today

[crimson jasper]

these are sick

[deep pawn]

Kirin?

[livid walrus]

did you know there is a third realm in beta? but it is offline ?

[silent urchin]

Appeared today, I think? Somewhat recently at least. Possibly preparing for a new wave

server performance has been a bit crap but it often is in beta, I think they intentionally try and find the things that cause lag

[ionic terrace]

could also be a endgame server?

with gear vendors and such

like premade 70s too

[deep pawn]

Or testing another specific thing.

[ionic terrace]

pvp?

[deep pawn]

But this expansion doesn't have a starting event like the maw right?

[ionic terrace]

uhm not sure

[silent urchin]

There seems like there will be something

Or well

[ionic terrace]

I hope that something is my beta invite

😛

and peach's

[silent urchin]

there's no event, you go directly to the dragon isles

but there is likely a pre-patch event that substitutes for it

[ionic terrace]

yeah

[silent urchin]

because the first quest seems like some story has already happened

[ionic terrace]

prob the timeskip thingy ppl snuck into getting

[deep pawn]

We already know prepatch will show us the wedding

My guess is maybe trying to stress test the evoker starting zone since that's the only new piece of world content that must be ready day one of prepatch

[ember blaze]

idk someone said they usually do that right before m+ testing

they put main city name as a server

[cunning fossil]

Ye

IIRC they did this with SL too

[ember blaze]

yeah they said sl and bfa

🙏 maybe a build tomorrow

[uncut lintel]

these kirin mounts are so pretty i want one

[ancient adder]

[silent urchin]

Neat, I made friends with a deathwing doomsday cult

[ionic terrace]

i can't believe zorb did this

5️⃣

[deep pawn]

eh?

[cunning fossil]

Against Bosses Holy Fire can have 100% uptime with Empyrean blaze

ohhhh god I feel so happy

[ember blaze]

@ionic terracedoes this mean a new build on a tuesday?

[dense plover]

probably

they just put up a new server - valdrakken

which is probably a 70 template server for testing M+ and raiding

[ember blaze]

hoping for some evoker changes

[uncut vault]

I mostly just wish we could get the option for the original alpha rotation back

shattering star is such a downgrade, and basically everything people despised about legion ret paladin lol

[cunning fossil]

What is shattering star?

[cunning fossil]

Ohhh I see

This seems pretty restrictive ywah

[uncut vault]

baseline it's 4 seconds, talent adds an extra 2

[cunning fossil]

Wow that's really shit

[plain violet]

It is, comparatively to the old spell..

[uncut vault]

oh the 2 enemies is also a talent

single target baseline

[cunning fossil]

Ooof

[ember blaze]

it's way too weak imo

well even if it was strong, 4 second base duration is shit

they just ran out of ideas i guess 🛌

[cunning fossil]

There are way better ideaa

Imo

[sour chasm]

lol

[deep pawn]

Technically that's more uptime than colossus smash but I'm sure people would much rather play around Smash

I think an ideal way to change that would be to buff the next 1-2 single target spells haha

[uncut lintel]

wow

they didnt forget the thunderspines existed

[deep pawn]

waiting on those servers to come down!

[plain violet]

I do too.. 👀

[sonic flame]

do we know already what happens to spells we get in sl from covenants?

do they get removed in df or they're just gonna be unusable in df content

but available elsewhere

[silent urchin]

some of them are now talents, the rest are going away

[sonic flame]

so we dont get to use them even while leveling through SL in 10 60

[plain violet]

For now in the beta, they are only usable in Shadowlands content.

[opaque pewter]

It's safe to assume it's going to be SL-restricted

[rain cave]

isn't there a new "ability" that everyone gets?

boon of the covenants or something

[uncut vault]

No, that's just the generic one to future-proof for any future classes

evokers, for instance, get that one

[deep pawn]

build seems unlikely today

[upper pasture]

Didn’t they already come out with an article explaining it will be restricted to SLs zones?

[ionic terrace]

PTR offline

[silent urchin]

beta is still up

[ionic terrace]

it's getting a bit late so i wouldn't be surprised if beta is tomorrow

[silent urchin]

Yeah, wouldn't be surprised

I did find a reproduceable crash, though. Opposed to all the random ones

[ember blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-dog-gif-25727185

[deep pawn]

a ptr build is still something

[ember blaze]

i got beta so 🛌 ptr

just wanna test keys with evoker

[deep pawn]

no posts today, sad

[dense plover]

servers didnt go down, yeah?

[deep pawn]

only ptr

[silent urchin]

beta is still up

[dense plover]

so ptr is down, but no build?

[silent urchin]

hasn't been down that long

[deep pawn]

so far I guess

[ionic terrace]

Servers are back but offline so soontm

I assume it’ll be the 5 build

(10.0.0.45555)

[deep pawn]

ptr coming up soon with "spicy pvp content?"

and beta build tomorrow

rated solo shuffle

[ionic terrace]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-pre-expansion-ptr-development-notes/1330092/4

[candid ruin]

bags fixed

[ancient jasper]

New Toy: Seed of Renewed Souls – Embrace the spirits of the weald, transforming into your Soulshape. 5 minute cooldown. Available from Lady Muunn in Heart of the Forest.

Not.. quite what I wanted, but..

[candid ruin]

oh soulshapes saved

[upper pasture]

oh who knew

[zealous basalt]

NO DRACTHYR YET

ree

but also class changes

[upper pasture]

glad we get to play around with SS still after SLs

even if it's a toy

[zealous basalt]

do you think we will see the new ui's resource bars soon

[sour chasm]

its weird that evoker is in ptr notes but we dont have dracthyrs

[candid ruin]

prob a copy paste from beta

[zealous basalt]

its prolly going to be after all the classes have been updated

blizz probably needs feedback from other classes first before having all just go full dragon

[sour chasm]

angy

let me play my boi

[candid ruin]

there is no toy?

[dense plover]

druid changes pt 1 are in

[candid ruin]

[zealous basalt]

bags are fixed

[dense plover]

"Expel Harm moved back to baseline for all Monks." - YES PLZ

[dense plover]

bag bug fixed?

[candid ruin]

Yes

[dense plover]

" NEW HUD UI
UI art updates:
Experience and Reputation bars
Wyvern action bar art for Horde players
Edit Mode
PvP Arena Frames
Loot Frame
Help tips are added to the frame as a toggle for more information."

exp and rep bars and the wyvern art is in

loot frame can be edited now

they still need to add grid snapping

[ancient jasper]

Okay here's HOPING they keep the Seed toy how it is

5 minute CD with a 10 minute timer

[candid ruin]

Do I have to do something to get this toy? I'm at Lady Muunn but don't see the option

[ancient jasper]

She should have a yellow quest

Make sure you aren't at Lady Moonberry

Like I was accidentally lol

[candid ruin]

hmmm must be bugged out for me then

[ancient jasper]

Could also require Rep 80

Renown*

[candid ruin]

am at renown 80

[ancient jasper]

Hmmmm

[candid ruin]

prob another hidden requirement

maybe you have to have all the shapes collected

[ancient jasper]

Definitely not true lol

I've missed out on a LOT

[dense plover]

two new dungeon descriptions added

[candid ruin]

ok just bugged for me then

[dense plover]

when this build gets pushed to beta - it looks like they made a bunch of changes to the new WQs based on a ton of achievements being added

tuskarr fishing, valdrakken ruby feast, cataloging

[ionic terrace]

they increased npc hp by quite a bit

[dense plover]

also they added achieves for dragon glyphs for every zone

[ancient jasper]

Oh shit you can use the Seed on a low level character

[dense plover]

Complete the Dragon Isles quest achievements listed below. Loremaster of the Dragon Isles

[upper pasture]

SS account wide?

[ancient jasper]

Yep

[dense plover]

also just an absolute fuck ton of WQ achieves and dungeon achieves

[upper pasture]

neat

[candid ruin]

well time to unlock all the soulshapes

[ionic terrace]

Chromie time still broke

[ancient jasper]

I'm.. not sure how you change the Soul Shape if your character isn't part of the Ardeanweald Covenant, though.. Hm.. It actually might just randomly select from any your account has unlocked

[silent urchin]

a lot of the world quests were definitely a bit wonky so getting them fixed will be nice

[sour chasm]

LOL

[silent urchin]

probably meant to be 50%

but put in 50 instead of 0.5

might also just be a tooltip thing

[dense plover]

now to see if they enabled torghast

[sour chasm]

no, it literally zooms you

[silent urchin]

not just a tooltip thing then lmao

[ionic terrace]

threads of fate torghast was working if that heps

lol

[dense plover]

yup

working

[cunning fossil]

neat

I gotta try out the new Holy Priest changes

They kinda nerfed their ability to heal with vampiric embrace which sucks

[uncut vault]

https://wow.tools/casc/preview/chash?buildconfig=bdefcbb749dc8796bc9a92c4cafbfb96&cdnconfig=802de35f069bef3d6dd82e57ed2e7814&filename=4720712.ogg&contenthash=48d6cacb09246dba1950acf6aebcfbb9

this is uh

certainly an odd voice line to add

[pulsar minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-looking-confused-the-rock-gif-21978284

[ancient jasper]

What

o_O

[crystal pond]

Wtf

[ember blaze]

who....

[deep pawn]

oh gysha?

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hellscream-garrosh-gif-22929958

[uncut lintel]

YESSSS

SOULSHAPE

TOY

[dense plover]

well

druid tree is still absolute garbage

theres no build variation for balance outside of swarm vs convoke

and convoke is inherently better

and the class tree is beyond shit

theres no choice

its literally build the right side and barely use all your points

or dont reach the bottom

i hope it gets better with the next build

[silent urchin]

Most of the trees seem to be heading in the fewer points direction

[silent urchin]

Ah, that's what they meant by horde themed wyvern art

[uncut lintel]

OMG

THE PRIMALIST GREEN SET

[glass flicker]

Boy, I can't wait to see how much more they'll mess with the talent trees!

[dense plover]

honestly its pretty great

[glass flicker]

I sure hope they remove Spear of Bastion, too! Not.

[uncut lintel]

FOMO SET 💀

hope its easy to gt and not rng

[dense plover]

probably a currency

[pulsar minnow]

still waiting for the black variant 😭

[uncut lintel]

[uncut lintel]

i bet that 3k rating in pvp

[glass flicker]

Yeah, Peach is right.

[uncut lintel]

hope its not overly expensive

[glass flicker]

The Shadowlands prepatch thing was a currency.

[uncut lintel]

and rng based

[pulsar minnow]

I stg if they do that... they probably will actually.

[uncut lintel]

yea but the sl sets were just bfa recolor

ugly

ttrash

[glass flicker]

True.

[uncut lintel]

its blizz, always expect the wost

worst

[dense plover]

considering its meant to be done in the prepatch, probably not very expensive

[uncut lintel]

broo

me playing druid in that set

i lost

[glass flicker]

I'd rather play a boomkin in the BlizzCon onesie.

[uncut lintel]

also gonna get mail set for evoker

[glass flicker]

And Glyph of Stars.

[uncut lintel]

ok but i want a dragon onesie

why we havent gotten one yet

idk

[glass flicker]

Of course you do.

Still.

[uncut lintel]

IDK WHY THEY WONT JUST MILK TH STORE

ITS EASY TO MAKE DARGON ITEMS

[glass flicker]

Tauren, plenty of hair flowers, BlizzCon onesie.

[uncut lintel]

yea

i love the onsie too

its p great

[glass flicker]

Stupidest weapon mog you can find. I think the tentacle staff from Highmaul.

[uncut lintel]

what

[glass flicker]

You know it. From the moss boss.

I forgot the name because it's stupid.

[uncut lintel]

no

idk it

o-o

[glass flicker]

[Spire of Tectus]

Bot's dead.

[uncut lintel]

o-o

o - o

[glass flicker]

It's the grossest staff in the game. Fits perfectly.

[uncut lintel]

o-o

[glass flicker]

Slap a dumb enchant on it, boom. Perfect druid mog.

[silent urchin]

🤔 I got an email thanking me for participating in alpha, and I apparently submitted 39 reports which got 3 bugs fixed. I never had alpha, I only got beta

[uncut lintel]

im gonna get the mail and leather one

[glass flicker]

Maybe it's a typo on their part.

[uncut lintel]

hopefully it wont be too hard on undergeared chars

the pr patch

[glass flicker]

I imagine it'll be a collective effort on killing rare elementals for currency.

[uncut lintel]

[glass flicker]

Boring and vanilla stuff.

[uncut lintel]

i want a prep atc mount

pre patch

[silent urchin]

Betas still going, I wouldn't expect that email yet. I assume they just got the dates slightly wrong when they did the pull for the alpha email.

[glass flicker]

Possibly.

[glass flicker]

Don't you want a prepatch store mount instead?

[uncut lintel]

[glass flicker]

I already see it. A dragon mount that's just Heart of the Aspects, but dark blue with white accents, and it's smaller.

[uncut lintel]

id deff buy it

[glass flicker]

Call it Infinite Serpent and boom.

[uncut lintel]

just i wish they would maybe change

the way it fllies

it makes me dizzy flying on heart of aspects

constant up and down

[glass flicker]

Or they could retexture the sparkly pony from the shop.

[uncut lintel]

no

[glass flicker]

The starhorse thing.

[uncut lintel]

stop

not another fucking horse

[glass flicker]

Okay, fine.

[uncut lintel]

HEY PUT ON A HAPPY FACE THEN EVERYTHINGS OKAY, PUT ON A HAPPY FACE,

[glass flicker]

How about another cat mount, but this time, a white tiger with glowy stripes?

[uncut lintel]

YES

OMG

ID BUY 50 OF THEM

[glass flicker]

That can fly on blue fire?

[uncut lintel]

xuen mount

[glass flicker]

Nah, I'm imagining a fully white tiger with black stripes.

Xuen is just blue.

[uncut lintel]

no

i mean

it reminds me o f xuen

but wait

black tiger gold stripes like i saw on pinterest

[glass flicker]

Ew, no.

[uncut lintel]

wait but it was cool

would be cool as a dragon too

< . <

[glass flicker]

Dragon with tiger stripes?

[uncut lintel]

black dragon with gold

[glass flicker]

No. Gold is a horrible colour.

[uncut lintel]

bruh

only bcuz the way blizard over uses it

on everything

but when its not alot its good

[glass flicker]

Precisely.

So have more red, black and silver. Those are the badass colours.

[uncut lintel]

ho god

i just thought of something

[glass flicker]

Edge.

[uncut lintel]

whitemane themed dragon 💀

SCALRELTE CRUSADE

[glass flicker]

You read my goddamn mind.

Okay, new idea.

[uncut lintel]

wot

[glass flicker]

Make worgen rideable in All Fours.

[uncut lintel]

💀 omfg

moonguard 💀

[glass flicker]

XD

[uncut lintel]

im dead

we r ruining this channel

[glass flicker]

No, you just have a dirty mind.

[uncut lintel]

waot wat

i wasnt even implying that either

[glass flicker]

I said no.

[uncut lintel]

nightt ruined

bye

[glass flicker]

Yeah, that's way too nsfw. I'm deleting it.

[uncut lintel]

at this pont just alt f4 ur whole discord account

but anyway

hyped af for pre patch

[glass flicker]

And if I don't?

[uncut lintel]

idc if u dont

[glass flicker]

Admirable.

[candid ruin]

wtf

[glass flicker]

Anyway, prepatch, huh?

[uncut lintel]

im sorry but ur pfp is really cute

[candid ruin]

Thank You!

[glass flicker]

Here's what I would want. No number squish pls.

[candid ruin]

[uncut lintel]

omg

those emoejis

give

[candid ruin]

pls no yoink

they cost a lot

[uncut lintel]

O_O emojis cost money?

[glass flicker]

Some.

[uncut lintel]

i wont yoink

but it is indeed cute af

[candid ruin]

yeah you have artist make you emojis

[glass flicker]

But Foksi, you're an artist.

[uncut lintel]

yea but im not that good

for that cuteness

level

[glass flicker]

Just draw your own emojis.

Breh.

[uncut lintel]

but anywya

WAIT

[glass flicker]

Sas literally added one of your drawings as an emoji.

How do you need more affirmation?

[uncut lintel]

FOX DRAGONS WHY ISNT THERE

CAT DRAGONS

IN WOW

@glass flicker she was pretty not cute >: ( theres a difference

[candid ruin]

CAT DRAGONS

[uncut lintel]

we need a cat dragon

we have frog, fox, and bird, add cat

the cycle of life must be completed

[candid ruin]

[uncut lintel]

when pre patch

cuz im dying here

[glass flicker]

Your drawings are cute, you just need to make them more chibi to achieve the effect emojis are going for.

[uncut lintel]

i wanna play wow but this clos to pre patch i have on reason

no*

[glass flicker]

Stop being insecure or I'll promote your artwork and get you commissions.

[uncut lintel]

ho god no ok ill stop

but im just spitting facts that nothing is more perfect than optimus prme

[ember blaze]

[uncut lintel]

i wanna test out dragon flying

but i dont like testing

[glass flicker]

Michael Bay did something to you.

[uncut lintel]

Michael Bae

💀

[uncut lintel]

sup tobi

[glass flicker]

Michael Bay be like "haha explosion go brr"

And it's effective.

[uncut lintel]

whens the last time weve seen an explosion in WoW like that

like a huge one

[glass flicker]

WoD.

[uncut lintel]

💀

[glass flicker]

When the Dork Portlul was blown up.

[uncut lintel]

hmmm

i might need to google that bcuz no memeries

[ember blaze]

@uncut lintelhave you seen the evoker lust effects

[glass flicker]

We shot an Iron Star at it.

[uncut lintel]

no

[glass flicker]

So that the Iron Horde won't come to Azeroth.

[uncut lintel]

omfg

omfg

[glass flicker]

Ew, Shadowlands preorder transmog.

[uncut lintel]

🏳️‍🌈

lets go

im gonna be using lust every 10 minutes

just for that effect

[candid ruin]

[glass flicker]

They should probably add some rainbow enchants to the game, tbh.

[uncut lintel]

wait a second how is he using non dracthyr armor as transmog

[uncut lintel]

yea other than limited toys

[deep pawn]

I love that lust animation

[uncut lintel]

its gay

im gonna make macro on mine

[glass flicker]

I still love Time Warp the most. It's very iconic to me on a personal level because my old raiding guild had nobody else who could lust.

[uncut lintel]

no

stop

[glass flicker]

Only mages.

[uncut lintel]

times change

wait maybe they can make glyphs

for lust to have diff effects of classes u want

whoa

i just blews my own mind

smort

[glass flicker]

I could use at least three glyphs on every ability tbh.

[uncut lintel]

i miss the old glyph system

[ember blaze]

time warp should have been given to evokers, but now i prefer the dragon rainbow

[glass flicker]

I want to be able to have red weapon trails on my arms warrior, for example.

[uncut lintel]

I SEE RED

[glass flicker]

Or poison green on my outlaw rogue.

[uncut lintel]

ok i wont sing it sorry

@glass flicker we need to go work at blizz

and work together at high rank

to make shit happen

[glass flicker]

Imagine an enhancement shaman with glyphs all based around fire.

[uncut lintel]

LIGHTNING? YEET
its fire now

[glass flicker]

Yuh.

Orange lightning with burn effects.

[uncut lintel]

so many possibilities

[glass flicker]

They did it with the rune system in Diablo 3.

[uncut lintel]

never played doblo

[glass flicker]

Well, I'll tell you.

Wizards have this ability called Forked Lightning. Or something. And every rune changes its appearance and effects.

[uncut lintel]

whoaa

[glass flicker]

That's what the glyph system could be.

Just pick which effect you want.

[uncut lintel]

too good 4 blizz

[glass flicker]

For example, if you picked the frost damage rune, your lightning will go ice blue.

If you picked the fire damage rune, it goes orange with residual flames following it.

[uncut lintel]

i

i kno it may be hard to understand but u dont have to simplify every detail

[glass flicker]

The art of Diablo 3 really goes under appreciated for being so diverse and colorful.

[uncut lintel]

i knew wut u meant

i mean

idk

i still like riots art better

[ember blaze]

stuff like this would have to be player screen only

[uncut lintel]

💀

[uncut lintel]

so

most ppl play solo anyway

[glass flicker]

So?

[uncut lintel]

just think of the glyph

as a UI addon or something

other ppl cant see it rlly

[glass flicker]

Other players don't have to see what glyph you're using because it'd be cosmetic only anyway.

Or, you know, just make it a toggle option.

"See other players' glyph effects"

[ember blaze]

for clarity just keep it player only

[glass flicker]

Exactly.

Or for preference, enable the view everything.

If you have a NASA PC.

[uncut lintel]

💀

nasa pc

[ember blaze]

can get problematic if stuff starts getting hard to read

[uncut lintel]

my pc landed on the moon too

[ember blaze]

like stuff on the ground

[uncut lintel]

just dont stand in it

[ember blaze]

tell that to hunter mains right now 💀

[glass flicker]

Okay? So just turn off the view glyphs option.

It's not so hard

[ember blaze]

im not attacking you

im just pointing out some issues if it was on all the time for everyone

[uncut lintel]

no one said u were but i understand ur pov he can be quiet terrifying at times

[ember blaze]

@uncut lintel

[glass flicker]

It has a lot of issues. But the game has issues to begin with. Just let players have fun.

[uncut lintel]

omfg

[glass flicker]

Remember at the start of Legion when Death Knights were given a new Death Grip animation that changed with the spec?

[uncut lintel]

whats fun

[glass flicker]

And it was removed on grounds of being slower?

[uncut lintel]

wait wut

[ember blaze]

@uncut lintel

[uncut lintel]

they removed it on being slower when it was cosmetic

[glass flicker]

Yup.

[uncut lintel]

magic

[glass flicker]

Despite the effort of the artists.

[uncut lintel]

💀

[glass flicker]

https://youtu.be/R1no_W_Fnbc

[uncut lintel]

3 m in video

i cba

[glass flicker]

They could have kept the new animation. Just make it grip on frame 1, why do they not think?

[uncut lintel]

u ask that yet half their response and community team is probably automated wallmart registers

[glass flicker]

Animation and frame data are significantly different. They just had to adjust the frames and make the animation a little faster.

[uncut lintel]

why do they not think

why they working in a blizzard

[glass flicker]

Because.

Just because.

[uncut lintel]

i

brb

[glass flicker]

Such wasted potential, and talent.

I'm pretty sure it's not the only animation they've shafted, either.

Even though it's so freaking cool.

Just keep the old animation where you can count the pixels, it's nostalgic and fools won't mind.

They even shafted the different Wraith Walk colors when they made it a talent instead of baseline.

Hey, this could be a cool idea. Glyphs for talents.

It better be a thing in Dragonflight.

[dense plover]

its a terrible animation

it has a huge hand

but the actual pull is worthless

it doesnt do a good job of communicating what the ability IS

the ability is not - BIG HAND

its a pull

[glass flicker]

What?

It was not a big hand. It was throwing a chain.

They could have just made the chain appear as you pull. But no, they had to add an animation for throwing it as well.

https://youtu.be/G36Qp-iOrL4

It's at the 1:54 mark.

[dense plover]

oh

i still dont like it

i like the one we have

the arm that goes out - it looks like the spell icon

also i imagine they decided against that because outlaw's harpoon/grapple think uses the same chain

[ember blaze]

those chains are very underwhelming

[uncut vault]

odyns spear finally got added for players, nice

[plain violet]

Oooh great!

[young latch]

Have those scarf cosmetics in the dressing room been revealed yet?

[rain cave]

I'm still mad at how they shafted frost strikes animation when shadowlands launched

[plain violet]

Was this set talked about @uncut vault ?

(Perennial titan)

From what I see, it seem to be a cosmetic set to be buy.

[uncut vault]

I don't think it was yet, no

they also added a Sabellian cosmetic set

which gives cloth wearers a mail armor set

[plain violet]

Interesting.. 🤔

I discovered rn also a blue version of the perennial titan set, but from various sources.

Oh, interesting, now the dracthyr battlegear is considered a set.

Oh, and a new item that talk about dreamweavers (the druidic order)

This staff, that is "dreamweaver acolyte staff"

[sour chasm]

nutty

[uncut lintel]

why do they keep making ugly sets and helms

[plain violet]

Dunno!

[uncut lintel]

sad

[charred gyro]

oooh. I haven't seen this yet. Are the models in game yet?

[cunning fossil]

Man they better not remove Holy Word Life from thw teee

[ionic terrace]

Weird that no silence

[cunning fossil]

I agree that button bloat may be somewhat if an issue but nixing shadowmend feels like the wrong move

I like having lots of active buttons to press

Because that's kinda the point

They've already nerfed the shadow support build for Holy by making Mind Vlast be replaced by Holy Fire, so please don't take another shadow damage spell of the tree for them pls

[cunning fossil]

I believe that their reasoning is sound tbh. If every healer class got access to an interrupt, shamans would start losing their niche

We're already giving an interrupt to Holy Paladins and Resto Druids

If both priests got a ranged interrupt, it's stomp Resto from that

[ember blaze]

but why? at one point you wont have enough buttons and you'll be clicking out of your spellbook

and half of those spells are gonna sit not being pressed for the majority of time

on live i dislike holy's ability bloat, but with flash concentration, it opened up a lot of room as I could just ditch things like prayer of healing,holy nova, and circle of healing from even being on my bars

couldnt imagine then having mind blast, shadowmend, mindbender, vamp, power world life...

[stoic blaze]

every healer class will have an interrupt except for priests lol

evokers have quell on class tree and monks have spear hand strike on class tree, it's not just hpal and resto druid getting one

[cunning fossil]

I never said we shouldn't try and consolidate but I don't want them to remove too many like chull

Also I like using a myriad of different abilities personally so as long as they don't take too much of it away I'll alright with it

[ember blaze]

but at this point it feels like things are starting to overlap

[cunning fossil]

Like what*

?*

[ember blaze]

power word life and serenity

but serenity at least works with your overal playstyle

[cunning fossil]

How there any overlap with those?

Like they're both instant cast heals but one is more for emergencies and the other is for your basic rotation

Also the option to have more instant heal/emergency abilities for priest will be a God send for me, as I often get surprised with huge waves of damage from the tank sometikes

Also there are builds in which you can just...avoid it.

[ember blaze]

serenity already fulfills this

[cunning fossil]

Not if it's on cooldown it doesn't

Also it's not a bad idea to have it just incase a DPS does something dumb is about to die

[stoic blaze]

that doesn't mean you should have like 5 instant cast high healing cds so that you can always have one available

[ember blaze]

power world life has a 30s cd and 10s if you manage to hit something at 35%

but 35% is already a huge dangerous spot

[cunning fossil]

We're only talking about 2 buttons though

It is not that many.

Again I am NOT saying that there isn't button bloat

[ember blaze]

like during mediv wreath, im not gonna let someone dorp to 35% hp and save life for that

it will all be preemptive healing to keep them up at all times

[cunning fossil]

Of course but sometimes you still need emergency healing.

No let me be more honest

[ember blaze]

and serenity already facilitating the emergency healing to make that ability easier to deal with

[cunning fossil]

I would loke the emergency healing. Ir's nice to have an option for myself

[ember blaze]

serenity is still a bigger heal no?

[stoic blaze]

i think life is slightly higher

[cunning fossil]

I'd be an idiot for saying there's no button bloat since I had that issue on PTR.

All I'm saying is that I like the options I get I wouldn't want them taken away

[cunning fossil]

Life is a bigger heal below 35% health

And i' not even arguing that life is better than serenity over all.or whatever ok?

I'm just saying that I will personally love the option since means I know I will have an emergency heal option for my Damagw Oriented Holy build

It'll help shore up the healing that I may be losing since I don't want to cast Flash heal and Heal all day long.

[ember blaze]

that's kinda what they want you to do though lol

[cunning fossil]

Like right now for it. I basically try to go full instant cast heals and only Casting Smite and holy fire.

Well yeah Toby I get that

I'm just saying is that I want to do that less

Like I'll be doing it to keep serenity off CD as much as possible, especially with the next build where we can get Apotheosis from PoM

But I don't want it to be all that I'm dojng

Trying to lean into the damage side of my rotation isn't a horrible thing to want to do I don't think. I just thinknit'll be fun.

I already have in my head the idea that I'll try to use Shield more often with the Crytalline Barrier passive, and maybe even pick up void shift. Vampirism Embrace as a way to shore up my heals while doing samage

[stoic blaze]

i think the problem is, it would be great if it were a conscious choice to opt into having things like power word life for a different playstyle

[cunning fossil]

Though now that Mind Blast isn't a thing for holy that kind sucks

[stoic blaze]

but with the way the class tree is you're basically forced to take it, since it's extra healing

[cunning fossil]

Not at all

I don't believe that for a second

[stoic blaze]

well if you don't take it you'll simply be less effective, it's a powerful heal

stronger than any other single target heal

there aren't other options that are exclusive with it to improve your healing

[cunning fossil]

It is the last point on the talent tree. Its healing output is lower than flash heal on a 30 second CD

Void Shift is an option, better Mindgames is an option

Angelic Barrier is also an option

[stoic blaze]

you can take mind games as well as power word life easily, and void shift and barrier are extremely low throughput

[cunning fossil]

Oh I know what you mean I have done so.

But LIfe is by no means mandatory

[stoic blaze]

technically not, but you will just do less healing if you don't take it

[cunning fossil]

But you'd also have either more shielding, self defense, damage, utility

It's not like you lose the talent point when you don't choose life

You're putting it somewhere

[stoic blaze]

the problem is there are no comparable options to put it into

healers are always going to pick the option which gives the most healing

you can make a tree like this and have every damage and healing node

except for very low impact ones such as desperate prayer/barrier and void shift

[cunning fossil]

How does this prove it as being mandatory though?

It is your choice to get more emergency healing.

Because I know for a fact you're not using it off CD.

[stoic blaze]

because there's nothing else you can take that gives any reasonable amount of healing

with those points

[cunning fossil]

You are missing out on Mass Dispel

Arguably the most important utility priests have access to by doing what you're doing.

So you are in fact sacrificing something to get more healing output.

And you lose Leap of Faith too, which is arguably pretty useful utility as well.

So you are trading Utilty for more healing output, which is a personal choice.

So it's by no means a mandatory pick up, it just means you're leaning into having an emergency heal as much as possible

[stoic blaze]

nobody is picking mass dispel or leap of faith over power word life, i guarantee you

they'd drop a damage node first

[cunning fossil]

Mass Dispel could very well prevent having to heal anything with smart uses and even using its fast cast talent.

Entire party gets magic debuffs? Mass Dispel and that's the entire ability/mechanic dealt with
Entire Enemy group got a nasty magic buff? Mass Dispel all extra damage mitigated

Both happens at the same time? Mass Dispell and fix both issues.

You could argue that you'd drop damage nodes to pick those up and to that I say yeah sure you could.

But then you're losing out on damage, and thus it will depend on each person individually to assess just how much they care about a certain aspect of their game play.

Some players, would in fact drop Life to.keep their damage and gain utility if they feel like their healing is sufficient enough

So no, it's not mandatory

If YOU feel.like it's mandatory then like that's your prerogative

But it doesn't mean everyone is gonna think like you

Again though, not saying ability bloat isn-= an issue but I would like to keep my options open thx

I now realiE that maybe this came off a little abrasive and to that ai am sorry but this is how I get in discussions

[deep pawn]

beta keys on warcraft's twitter

a giveaway

[errant prairie]

Servers just went down

so new build today?

[cunning fossil]

I'm literally never getting into beta 😭

[ember blaze]

time to pull out the wow wiki

[cunning fossil]

The answers are like so fucking easy

That isn't the struggle

The struggle.is getting chosen at all

[deep pawn]

question is what's different between ptr and beta today

[plain violet]

Surely dragon isles content...

And evoker.

[dense plover]

Gah, I can’t do the twitter contest because my work blocks twitter

If someone who has a key wins, plz DM me

[ocean pawn]

how long does beta stay afk?

do you follow it s/where

[cunning fossil]

Unsure how long but usually it'll come.up around 5-7 pm est

[ocean pawn]

ugh in eu?

9-11?

[cunning fossil]

Maybe

I'm unsure of Eau time

[ocean pawn]

neither ;d

[amber jay]

Any ETA to start Beta realms?

[mossy meteor]

@dense plover they did an oopsie

Replied to the winners with the beta key

[silent urchin]

there's no build up yet for patch

[mossy meteor]

Instead of, idk, dming them

[silent urchin]

lmao

[mossy meteor]

So people "stole" 2 beta keys

[silent urchin]

well

ofc they would

blizz know who they are though

so I imagine that's not going to go well for them

[mossy meteor]

Well, who knows

[ionic terrace]

yoink