beta-ptr-spoilers

[plain violet]

Like a big tunnel which you rush toward and bim, big underworld.

[proper crystal]

That sounds appropriate for the dragonriding fantasy, hellyeah

[plain violet]

Totally!

Ah, why not!

[jade basalt]

That's the thing that I think the playerbase has not really understood yet.. the playerbase has been extremely toxic and controversial in their reaction and "feedback" for the dracthyr.
When really we should be accepting of dracthyr, cause some people like them, but also ask for more varied options to please everyone- it's perfectly natural that not everyone has the same idea of what a humanoid dragon should look like.

[plain violet]

Some words I heard about dracthyrs were really insensitive and toxic, yes.

[proper crystal]

Oh, I absolutely agree! Personally, I adore the dracthyr--if I enjoy the healing spec, I'm heavily considering maining evoker this expansion. They could go live with exactly the customization that exists right now and I'd be over the moon, the main thing I wanted is already being delivered (the Chosen Identity ability). The bodytype variation I mentioned would be the bottom half of option 4 and top half of option 1--not necessarily something I'd use myself, but I'd rather they give that for the people who want more feminine dracthyr rather than the dreaded Lizard-boobs 😂

[crystal pond]

Ppl just want hate blizzard for anything
Even that stupid like customization
In future ppl totaly gonna say that "thanks the light they didnt added bulky form for dracthyrs" or "thanks they didnt add boobs for dragons"

[dense plover]

important note regarding that - this is, to my knowledge, the first fully customizable player form that isnt gender specific

and with the changes to body type, its possible we can finally get gender non-conforming races

[proper crystal]

Oh yeah. I see complaints when things are time-gated and complaints (that they're "forcing us to grind this out, then there's no more new content") when things aren't time-gated. Damned if they do and damned if they don't, no matter what people will complain they're not "listening to the community" as though any group of people will ever be 100% agreed on anything. Some people just want to be mad, smh.

[proper crystal]

yessss this is wonderful in my opinion!

[glad niche]

personally im stoked the dracthyr dont have strict masc/fem speration in lizard form

[proper crystal]

Same. Plus the "scale-beard" option for the human-female-based model is 💯

[glad niche]

right

the fluidity in the options is ❤️

[plain violet]

It's amazing the dracthyr form is just a dracthyr, yes.

[glad niche]

im excited to (hopefully) eventually see Khagars reaction to dragon humanoids

[plain violet]

Me too! I want his dad jokes all over again.

[glad niche]

hes forever in my top 5 fav videogame silver foxes

[crystal pond]

Did they added any reactions to dracthyr beside stormwind?

[glad niche]

orgrimmar has some, ive only seen one tho

[plain violet]

Orgrimmar has reactions too.

Generally speaking, more warm.

[crystal pond]

I wanna see alextraza reaction to dracthyr with all that happened in cata like "oh nonono, not this twilight thing again"

Sinse nobody knows about dracthyr, exept malygos

[plain violet]

Well.. since nobody know about them, I don't think Alex would have a bad reaction. 😁
For now, Ebyssian and Irion are pretty cool with them.

[crystal pond]

But alex still hostile towards deathwing and what he did
Will see how it will go

[plain violet]

Alex is too motherly to really hate. Especially if she knows their origins. We know there is dracthyrs in Valdraken too.. Should be nice, but we will see.

[crystal pond]

to hate
remember wrathion quest
remember that she commanded kill every black dragon

[glad niche]

considering on the PTR dracthyr players waltz around her and the other aspects giant dragon feet, id say shes less then hateful to them

[upper pasture]

but the dracthyr aren't black dragons...

[glad niche]

is forbidden reach on the isles? or somwhere else?

[upper pasture]

yes isn't it the top left area?

[subtle oar]

north of the isles

[upper pasture]

err.....right

[glad niche]

ive not watched anyones playthrough of it or looked super hard at a map

was curious if it would also be arguable that they are from the isles so she cant exactly exile them

[crystal pond]

Will see what will happen on release
They can change story or fix it like it was with legion
Also not all areas are opened at the moment and not many broadcoast is available to datamine sadge

[glad niche]

DF is pretty much done as far as launch content

its all hammering out the bugs and tweaks atm

Ion has said as much in a few different interviews when the "2022??" is asked

[dense plover]

yeah but like - a lot of the stuff isnt dataminable currently

when they add a zone, they add the broadcast text and such

also theres definitely some unfinished terrain work, missing maps, etc

[uncut vault]

honestly my one critique of dracthyr is just that they dont have a dragony beard

feels like a shoe-in for easy customization, but all they have is a little chin horn option

[jade basalt]

Do you mean in dragon form? Cause more than that, the issue is that they have no Chin customization at all.
And the little that there is, is tied to the Snout option. So if you go for the 'Barbed' snout for example then you also get tiny horns under your chin.
The two options should be separate, like it is for the customizable Dragonriding mounts, and there should just be more: horns, spikes, hair (like most dragons), tentacles even, scales, etc.

[uncut vault]

yeah the horns all being on snout option is a weird choice

for a race that otherwise lets you mix and match so much

I was trying to make a dracthyr version of each aspect, and quickly realized that I just... cant make nozdormu lol

because dracthyr have no beard options

I made ysera very easily by comparison

[jade basalt]

There's not even a titan watcher model yet.

Well; there's 1 titan watcher model but it's the one used by Koranos from the CGI cinematic (and Irideus).
But there's no updated model for the old style watchers. Even though there IS an updated model for their statues, by the way:

So my guess is it'll come in a future build, maybe for the Thaldrasus zone cause it's the most titan-y

[crystal pond]

Hope they will add it on beta atleast so we will have «Gandalf The Dracthyr»
Cause yeah
Maybe its to make it more unisex like or something but dracthyr need beards for sure

[jade basalt]

Yeah I tried to make Senegos and that's when I realized.. Dracthyr in drzgon form can't have hair-beard, hair-eyebrows or even a hair-mane.

(Although to be fair Senegos is the only dragon with hair everywhere.)

[crystal pond]

Dracthyr eyebrows customization is weird to be honets

[rain cave]

dragons are jacked af

[uncut vault]

the 'eyebrows' work in the context of the customizations as a whole

[rain cave]

give orcs their eyebrows

raid thralls stash and return them to the people

[uncut vault]

they just look very weird on their own lmao

[crystal pond]

By the light

[rain cave]

I'm gonna keep asking every time you post bald dracthyr

make salazzle

[uncut lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-dracthyr-gif-25438552

[rain cave]

tried do do it myself in dressing room u beat me

[plain violet]

Nice, nice.

[proper crystal]

hows yours so....not glitchy? 👀

[uncut vault]

Stasis is such a cool spell, both mechanically and visually

[proper crystal]

ohhhh I like that! The floating dots are a nice visual cue. Hyyyype

[plain violet]

I really like it.

[uncut vault]

the sword can be seen from a lot further now lol

this is ashenvale

[subtle oar]

Hmmm. I thought they said they were not lifting the draw distance restrictions on older zones yet, that it was only for the DIs for now is a very recent interview

Did they change their mind already?

[crystal pond]

what sword?

[uncut vault]

well it's im all the old zones for the alpha, maybe just havent implemented the limitations yet

[crystal pond]

Probably they want to add it only for DI, but game code went spaggeti and added it to all zones

Saw how ppl saying that this thing dropping fps/frames for some old zones

[plain violet]

"That's a big sword right there"

[rich elm]

i actually like this draw distance

i hope we are gonna keep it

the "what sword" jokes will get funnier

[proper crystal]

I love the sword being WoW's version of the CN Tower, St Louis Arch, etc. where you can just see it in the distance all the time, ton of meme potential

[dense plover]

did they update the spellfx since last build? they look better

[uncut vault]

No clue, Ive only been in this one

[dense plover]

related to the new article - djaradin use the kul tiran stuff so theyre nearly player ready, but theyre unlikely to be playable because THEYRE FUCKING HUGE

XD

they also just have a lot of customizable options like the centaur do - probably because options mean you can make NPCs a lot easier

but it also means that have a really high LoD that older stuff lacks

also they all look fucking fantastic

i love them as a new threat

afaik, we dont actually solve the djaradin threat at launch

so thats potentially a patch thread as well

[ember blaze]

arent evokers going to be able to use weapons that currently have 0 int on them? 🤔

[uncut vault]

Probably same as with mages, they can equip them

they just arent useful

[ember blaze]

@uncut vaultsword got int though

holy paladin can also use them

[uncut vault]

yes, but that wasnt your question lol

weapons that dont have int, IE two handed sword with strength, or a 1h mace with agility, will be equippable

just not useful for them, or drop as personal loot

[glass flicker]

Evokers can use 2H swords. Those never have intellect. They're purely for transmog.

[uncut vault]

2h intellect weapons drop for resto druids and holy paladins

just not usually in raids

[median cape]

So, apparently you can test Evoker on a tauren on the WoWhead dressing room

[dense plover]

i imagine that doesnt work much outside of switching to the dragon form

like - thats not really "testing"

theyre two separate forms

thats like saying you could have worgen tauren - sure, you could, since the worgen form is customized separately

[uncut vault]

the dressign room lets you do any combo in the info panel, but it only shows as active for valid races

[median cape]

I tried to get some specific animation such as the advanced flying animation hoping to see something interesting, sadly that didn't happened 😅

I was curious since it showed like it is available for Tauren, got curious to try it out

[dense plover]

yeah it isnt available for tauren technically, its just not race locked currently because its in alpha

[uncut vault]

oh thats weird lol

[dense plover]

hey @uncut vault if you have time, can you go check out valsharah where the furbolg are and see if they still use the old new model?

[livid walrus]

the credits are already out 🙂

[rain cave]

I just went to dressing room and did it wdym

[rich elm]

Clear your cache and then go to the beta version of the dressing room

[rain cave]

I wonder if they'll ever update the ice block model

Just interesting seeing it next to modern ice and crystals in df

[proper crystal]

Yeah I ended up going to a different browser and it works haha

[plain violet]

That could be nice, Big Saint, yes.

I am really eager to see the dressing room finished. 😁

[rain cave]

wonder if they would ever add a PvP talent for rogues to let them disguise as another class

so like if you have it in arena you'll show up as another class until you start casting like stealth

even if it's more of a meme/mindgame talent

hell they could even get really creative with it

if they wanted it to be a combat talent

like when you use tricks of the trade on an ally in PvP with this talent, you both get invis for a second, then you disguse as your ally

so if your healer is being focused and i low on hp you can impersonate them for a bit and try split the damage

[cerulean lava]

Mike Morhaime 😂

[languid yoke]

mark kern

[rain cave]

chris metzen?

dude doesn't even work at blizzard anymore other than voice acting a handful of core characters

[languid yoke]

(looks like classic credits full with some of the awful old people)

[crystal pond]

Spy from tf2 in nutshell

Chris probably cooperate with blizzard but not working at it directly

[rain cave]

Nah the credits aren't accurate

For sure

[jade basalt]

By the way this wasn't in the Wowhead interview summary for some reason, but:

Dragonflight alpha will be more focused, as all the zones are ready for testing now and will be rolled out in the coming weeks.
The zones, talent trees, and dungeons will roll out in the next month and a half and then Beta will begin.
So this would mean Beta early September.

[rain cave]

Yes

This has been discussed

[signal bone]

is the new alpha content coming today or tomorrow?

[ember blaze]

the same time every week

[dense plover]

Probably tomorrow

[uncut lintel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dungeon-armor-models-in-dragonflight-327886?webhook they need to do better man this shit is ugly

[upper pasture]

that plate dungeon set looks similar to that elden ring boss but that's mostly just the helm but i like it

[uncut lintel]

the mail one is cool

but the rest r

ehh

and cloth looks like zm gear with no gear

i mean glow

[rain cave]

I like them they remind me of wrath dungeon gear but with colors

[ember blaze]

cant remember the last time dungeon gear looked good

[upper pasture]

i like the plate one the best

[uncut lintel]

the plate shouldedrs just looks weird

[rain cave]

Bfa plate dungeon was alright

[uncut lintel]

like its more bulky than the rest of the set

i feel like it would be better if the whole set was bulky like the shoulders

[ember blaze]

when are we getting shoulders that arent giant boulders?

[uncut lintel]

never

[ember blaze]

specially for cloth

this looks like plate gear

[rain cave]

I'd love to see them do a low and sloped design for shoulders some time

[uncut lintel]

he had to glue has helmet on

[rain cave]

Like shoulder and upper arm decoration rather than spaulders

[uncut lintel]

why is my brain thinking differently than my hands bro i cant type wtf

[upper pasture]

it is attached by a mouth guard

[uncut lintel]

i think the word but it comes out wrong

christ

[uncut lintel]

slober all over

[upper pasture]

oh wait no it's not you can see his mouth 😦

😦

[uncut lintel]

oh

HE GLUES IT

[rain cave]

They should add music as a profession so we can have one man band transmog

[uncut lintel]

I OWULD LOVE THAT

LIKE FF14

[ember blaze]

when bard releases as a class

[uncut lintel]

omg

[rain cave]

No

No bird class

Bard

[uncut lintel]

i want playable music instruments and use as mog that would be awesome

but its too good for blizzard

like alot of things

[rain cave]

Music would work as a profession though

[uncut lintel]

ye

[rain cave]

Like drums in leather working, bringing raid buffs

[uncut lintel]

maybe as a third secondy proffesion would be nice

tbh

like after arch and fishing

[rain cave]

Mini versions of other class buffs

[uncut lintel]

or well maybe not if its useful like that

[rain cave]

Make it a third profession as you said

Then everyone can do it

[uncut lintel]

o

[rain cave]

So if you want like, Mark of the wild but no Druids on

You can play a bit of a jam out

And get a mini version

But still mostly being a fun profession with the ability to just fuck about

[crystal pond]

On this week they gonna open waking shores? Or what?

[short prism]

i want it tho

[short prism]

Also god we REALLY need those helmets + hair toggles turned on

[rain cave]

Doesn't really fit WoWs
Fantasy to be a full class imo

We have the etc band, but they're not really bards

[short prism]

there were some little teases ab how Music effects the literal soul soul in shadowlands

[rain cave]

Or core

[short prism]

but that’s true and fair

i feel like originally they were gonna have more of a plot hook on that at some point but obv they never did lol

[rain cave]

If they did bards they'd be basically making a new magic type

Unless they wanted to retread ground on other classes

The cooler thing would be giving certain classes bard like glyphs

Or making it a cool profession for all

[short prism]

imo i would be rly frustrated if it became sm like that but

to each their own

like if it’s going to go as far as to GIVE buffs, then it is still in its own new realm of magic

since, like u mentioned, there aren’t reaaally bards

[rain cave]

I feel a load of others would be annoyed that the only way to play music is to play a bard

[short prism]

but a bard profession would feel like a cop out

[rain cave]

Food gives buffs

How so

[short prism]

they definitely need more instruments

[rain cave]

Let everyone play music

[short prism]

just in general

[rain cave]

Music is meant to be an expressive thing anyway

So letting everyone do it could be fun

[short prism]

because if music can benefit you magically/physically, then there’s no reason for it not to be a class imo than being afraid to go full hog

and they can still let everyone do it!!

[rain cave]

So you want chef as a class too?

[short prism]

if they added bards, adding a bunch of music toys and other things would seem apt

[rain cave]

Not toys

[short prism]

this is far less active of an activity

[rain cave]

I'd say they're equal

[short prism]

playing music is active and in the moment, music is preparation with an end goal in mind

IE the food itself

[rain cave]

They're both high skill activities

[short prism]

food themed glyphs though....

[short prism]

That doesn’t mean they output at all in similar ways

[rain cave]

They both require focus and training to produce an end product

[short prism]

the product as a bard is being made constantly, not at the end

[rain cave]

And are skills anyone can learn alongside other things

[short prism]

you aren’t eating the meal the whole time you’re cooking

[rain cave]

You're not performing the song the whole time you practice

This is pointless semantics debating

[short prism]

yeah

true

But yk what we both want more of

music in world of Warcraft

which we deserve tenfold!!!!

[rain cave]

Bard would work best as a profession for everyone to have fun with, instead of another class to compete for fantasy and balancing

Music would just be another avenue for fun, interaction and utility

Should*

[short prism]

I think bard would work best as a class, to allow the depth and attention required to the fantasy of a bard, and to include even other art forms popularized by the fantasy subject of it (dance, music, and art are the three points of bards in most content)

[rain cave]

Gw2 has entire music guilds who do performances

[short prism]

And the mesmer fills some need for a bard class, however untraditional it is

[rain cave]

I think letting people be diverse in their origin for music would be cooler

Paladin and a warlock yes. But they are also experts on the cello and pipe flute

Music has always been a thing that you learn about people as a secondary thing to me, obviously musicians exist but it's still a hobby for loads of people

[upper pasture]

music is a hobby until you can live off it tbh

[rain cave]

But like core classes aren't really hobby built

[short prism]

music is an ever present force in all societies, but w/e

[rain cave]

You became a mage to study magic, maybe to do portals, or be a scholar

Warriors trained to be guards maybe

Priests are dedicated to a faith

Etc

Music can be a hobby to anyone regardless of job

Which is the skew i think works best

[short prism]

Musicians go to a bard college (traditional staple of both the old world and fantasy as a genre) and become entertainers

[rain cave]

Don't have to go to a college to be a musician

[upper pasture]

one of you is arguing real life musicians and one of you is arguing fantasy musicians

[short prism]

that’s true

[coarse quail]

Such a funny dragon😂😂

[dense plover]

well, even though it was announced early, theyve confirmed wrath classic for sept. 26

so yeah, im betting on prepatch right around thanksgiving and release mid-late december

and then raid mid-late january

[plain violet]

Some pastel goth dracthyr...

[dense plover]

am i the only one that really likes the dungeon gear models?

tuskarr leather is SO good

and the djaradin plate set is fucking perfect

[plain violet]

I like it. :)

[crystal pond]

Its feels odd, because these are probably the first mundane sets in the last 3 expancions

[pulsar minnow]

Mail sets actually good this expac?

I really hope all colorations are available for both factions

This would look amazing on my Blue Dragon Evoker but I'm not playing Alliance

[uncut vault]

Honestly I kinda just think that the same one human dude in default pose is the worst way to show off new sets lol

Could definitely use being shown off on multiple models to better see the individual pieces and shapes

[cunning fossil]

lmao

[pulsar minnow]

Great vfx

But wow a lot of these sets look so good in alternate colors

[proper palm]

Can you try on a human ?

Ok, so better

[subtle oar]

Put it on a female panda

[proper palm]

So cool to

[subtle oar]

Not bad

[dense plover]

those are some broken particles

XD

[proper palm]

I need to see the evoker stuff on a human male

[dense plover]

is that a tier set?

and for what class?

[dense plover]

there isnt any

i dont think their tier set is in yet

[proper palm]

DK

[dense plover]

or if it is, it isnt working

and then for regular gear, its just that certain slots display

petopia updated

great way to see the different colors of the new models

https://www.wow-petopia.com/dragonflight.php

[subtle oar]

Petopia is a godsend

I was really hoping blizz would add a neutral cloud serpent mob that spawns as the other unavailable colours, like they did for the Alliance when they added tameable horses

[dense plover]

i didnt know there were all these horn variations for the mammoths

[subtle oar]

One day, maybe, I'll be able to collect the other cloudie boi colours

[plain violet]

Yes, there is really many variations on all mobs

[dense plover]

just like i didnt know the ray sharks could have horns or tailfins

this is neat

[subtle oar]

[dense plover]

brings a lot of variety to the game

[plain violet]

Agree. 😁

[dense plover]

theres thunderhorns without the plates?

[plain violet]

Petopia was amazing to choose a pet as a hunter.

If I remember right, yes.

[dense plover]

omg hornswog is such a good name

[plain violet]

It is. 😁

And they are cute.

[sturdy bane]

Does anyone know if they are going to try to redo the domination sockets gear from sod and put it in with tier sets next season?

[subtle oar]

No. Dom sockets do not exist in s4

[sturdy bane]

Woot

That'll make gearing a lot easier. Those shards were a pain to try to get

[rain cave]

something I'm loving with DF so far is the vibrancy

the colours are just on point

instead of it just being slight variations or different shades of coloured grey

it's big and vibrant in all these primary colours

and more

[plain violet]

The colours are amazing, agree.

[proper crystal]

Are Ottuks really not tameable?

[glad niche]

might be like the chimeras / dragons

a side unlock

Which if they are like cloud serpents, that would likely make them a tuskarr rep item, if nothing else

[ionic terrace]

10.0.0.44795 should be tomorrow's build

[dense plover]

(us) VersionsName: 10.0.0.44707 → 10.0.0.44795!

yep - new dev build

probably tomorrow's build

my guess is theyre checking to make sure the stuff thats the focus is enabled and it isnt crashing

tomorrow should be: "Phase 3 Zone Experiences: The Forbidden Reach and Waking Shores"

[upper pasture]

And our invites! Right peach?

😄

[dense plover]

fuck i hope so

if i dont get in this week with the help i got, im essentially not getting in

this kinda thing is when i used to message my contact and double check

[plain violet]

I hope it for you. :)

(And for me)

[dense plover]

but they dont work with those teams anymore

[upper pasture]

Yeah my blizzard inside man quit so I don’t get to ask him for invites anymore

But he works on Pikmin bloom now so….I guess that’s a win…no nvm it’s not.

[mossy meteor]

just find a new insider

[upper pasture]

Lol, yeah I wish this is my second one that I knew from before they worked at blizzard. I’ll just deal with no 100% beta invites from now on

It’s only 5ish months right. It can’t be THAT bad

[uncut vault]

desperately hoping next build adds warrior to test

only having two tanks has been rough for healer queues lol

[upper pasture]

i wanna see DHs i wanna know what they are changing or adding for them to have full trees

[dense plover]

monk or DH works too

just saying

DH only has 2 talent trees too

[pulsar minnow]

Looks like the Wowhead Dracthyr Dressing Room is finished!

Body Types are in too

[crimson jasper]

oh l gotta finish up mine when I get home then

[dense plover]

still no visage right?

oh fuck, they fixed the double options

i think wings are broken

theyre using horn texture

either that or its firefox

[ionic terrace]

Horn wings

[dense plover]

yep - its firefox

what does the mirror option do?

my bronze drakthyr i plan to make on live

they look good

i wish they had more face horn options

and i wish there were more wing jewelry options

[upper pasture]

awesome!

[dense plover]

otherwise im pretty satisfied

oh

i also wish you could color the two armor colors separately

[pulsar minnow]

I wish you could choose the colors of your horns separately from your crest, but yeah it's great

This is what I'm currently on for my Evoker

Or this

[upper pasture]

not completely sold on the silver like i'd thought i'd be

[ember blaze]

what is the link to this?

I can only see live races

[upper pasture]

the darker silver looks better

click on the beta button

[glad niche]

make sure you have Beta selected

since peeps showing their looks off

that mine so far

[dense plover]

i feel like the hood and helmets are dumb

you spend all this time on various facial customizations

and then hide all of them

[glad niche]

that kinda stuff is why my fella is almost naked

[dense plover]

i think chest and leg is fine - theres no real customization there

[upper pasture]

the hood is so nice tho

[glad niche]

my guys more nudey side cause of the old joke of the dragon aspects (or at least one of them) not understanding clothing or the need for it

[subtle oar]

Prefer armor style 1

Waistcloth looks better

[upper pasture]

i wish you could mix and match the armor styles 😦 cause i too don't like the waistcloth for 2

[glad niche]

that bit changes with the style?

i gatta go looksie now

ooohh, yeah, the waist bit isnt great in armor 2

good thing i didnt have either on!

[pulsar minnow]

Dont forget when it comes to making your dracthyr that there are starter zone shoulders that match the Obsidian, Red, blue, and bronze sets, which can of course be seen on the Dragon form

Also, the Evoker Tier shoulders look fantastic on the dragon form, of course the effects are WIP 😅

[upper pasture]

perfection LOL

[dense plover]

i thought we didnt have evoker tier set

[pulsar minnow]

Oh shoot you're right

those were the rogue shoulders

https://www.wowhead.com/news/evoker-primalist-class-tier-set-models-early-look-in-dragonflight-vault-of-the-327767

The shoulders looked kinda similar

[upper pasture]

ngl that set gives big DW vibes

[pulsar minnow]

I like it, but I just kinda wish it matched the concept art better

[upper pasture]

if that's what they were going for it's pretty spot on

[pulsar minnow]

Remember it will come in Thunder, Ice, and Earth variations

I feel like body type 4 is the perfect sweet spot for giving us a bulkier dragon form that doesn't completely throw out what makes the Dracthyr different from the Drakonid. Blizz did a great job on this class, can't wait to play it.

[ember blaze]

wanted a green + bronze theme

[glass flicker]

That's a healer, alright.

[glad niche]

I couldn't figure out doing the other shoulder pads, I'll have to wait and be surprised in game xD

[pulsar minnow]

I just went to the armor and looked up Azure Dracthyr Battlegear Monnion

Theres an Obsidian, Crimson, and Sand version too. The Obsidian one is slightly off color unfortunately

[glad niche]

Hopefully I'll remember that tomorrow. In bed now. Ty

[uncut lintel]

EEEEK

[proper palm]

My Black Drachtyr !

[proper palm]

10 sec edit paint to make a real dragon

[dense plover]

Looks like a Scaley

Not like a dragon

What’s the obsession with wanting the dragons to look like crocodiles?

It’s not going to change

And the annoying comments are becoming more and more grating

[cunning fossil]

Believe it or not guys, things that are made by dragons are NOT dragons

[crimson jasper]

and like

[proper palm]

So give me a single dragon on Azeroth with no visible teeth

[crimson jasper]

THEY HAVE TEETH

but thats not enough for a tooth fetishist I assume xD

[dense plover]

You’re not playing a dragon

[proper palm]

Yeah :p

[cunning fossil]

My brother in CHrist, not every dragon needs an overbite lmao

[dense plover]

You’re playing a dracthyr

They’re a creation of dragons

And are part mortal

[cunning fossil]

EXACTLY

They are essentiallyu constructions

NOT actual dragons

THey may have dragon like features but they willnever be one for one

like Drakonids that we've seen before. Even THEY aren't dragons

[dense plover]

And again, they aren’t going to change it at this point, so constantly being a dick about it here and annoying others isn’t contributing anything

[proper palm]

Oh ok, like Maloriak ?

Oh Maloriak have teeth out

[crimson jasper]

christ almighty

[dense plover]

I’m fucking done

Blocked

[proper palm]

❤️

[crimson jasper]

good idea

[dense plover]

I don’t need this

You aren’t contributing and you don’t care

[cunning fossil]

HE is also a construct tho

[proper palm]

They remain dragons all the same, it seems to me that it is even said during the introduction of the Drachtyr

[cunning fossil]

like, at least he's deformed

SHow me

[crimson jasper]

dont entertain him

also every dragon in the world could have "teeth out"

[cunning fossil]

Fair enough. I'm too much of a reasoner

[dense plover]

It doesn’t change the fact that they aren’t going to change it

[crimson jasper]

if it's blizzards design decision to not make them teeth out, it's blizzards dragon design

the end

[cunning fossil]

factual

also I like it that they look more clean than rabid

Allows me to have Twink Energy

[dense plover]

Pretty sure they’re supposed to look refined

Since they were partially made to work among mortals

[cunning fossil]

OH yeah I know! I'm saying I like that

[crimson jasper]

I mean hey if you want to "argue" from a lore perspective, Neltharion took what he thought valuable traits of mortal races, I dont see humans with teeth out, nor elves, maybe he liked that and bought that "No teeth out dlc" for the dracthyr

[cunning fossil]

lmao

[crimson jasper]

maybe he even used his ingame gold to buy it from the store since he didnt have money for wow tokens

spent everything on his sick Deathwing transmog

[cunning fossil]

Deathwing does havve all that Gold in NEltharus though

[crimson jasper]

thats probably from his moms credit card

so he wasnt allowed to spent

[cunning fossil]

lmao

[crimson jasper]

well gotta bail, need to bring my dog to the vet since they are now open

[cunning fossil]

nice nice. HOpe they'll b e well

[crimson jasper]

yea might just be upset belly but still gotta check

[cunning fossil]

alrighties.

[proper palm]

Wizened said "They are unworthy of the dragon blood in their veins"
Neltharion took the essence of mortals and everything that makes dragons, that's why they have the physical characteristics like horns.. Claws.. Scales and not just mortal look with dragon power
Even if you don't like it, a customisation option will not destroy the visual you like 🙂
After that remains an option that many players want , it was exactly the same for the shape and Blizzard change the design decision for that

[cunning fossil]

THey have dragon blood in their veins =/= dragon my dude. IT could literally just be his own blood/ essence

[proper palm]

'Cause he doubted they were dragons 'cause they're a Neltharion experiment as you know 😉
But the enemy of the Drachtyr recognizes it.
It's a bit funny that they have all the characteristics of dragons, except for one

[cunning fossil]

if they were dragons, why bother calling them drakthyr

[rain cave]

What are we discussing?

[proper palm]

I say anything they are not dragons but Dragonkin

[proper palm]

@rain cave

[rain cave]

I don't understand

[proper palm]

Same reason other dragon/kin call other Wrym Aspect Dragons Drake Drakonid.. Proto.. Etc .. xD

[rain cave]

They aren't dragonkin or dragons

[proper palm]

They are dragonkin

[rain cave]

They're dracthyr

Not dragonkin

Dragonkin are their own other race

The scaley centaur looking things

With 4 legs

Then the big muscly ones are draconids

And then there's the dracthyr

They are separate

[proper palm]

All the lore sites agree to say this because they all have Dragonkid characteristics and it's a bit like the dragon subspecies
They were described as Drakonid by Blizzard during the reveal

[crimson jasper]

why Dracthyr don't need an overbite, and why a overbite now counts as "characteristic" of dragons l guess?

on the road now

funky how this topic still goes on lol

when was last alpha update, was it Thursdays?

wonder what new class tress we get

[rain cave]

Over bites and under bites aren't characteristics of dragons

They're just characteristics

That's like saying eyes are a human characteristic

Lmao

[proper palm]

When 99.99 of the race has this trait, it is a characteristic ^^

[rain cave]

Ok and?

[crimson jasper]

not gonna argue with you since I agree, tho seemingly it's needed cause all have it or something lol

[crimson jasper]

anyways

kinda would like to see DH tree

see if they get more buttons xd

[rain cave]

You do realise he's just talking free-form

Corrects himself immediately after

[proper palm]

It did not correct itself, the information did not change

[rain cave]

This is a draconid, draconic race

He's just finding a word to describe them

[proper palm]

yes, Drakonid[2][3] (sometimes pluralized as drakonids[4][5][6] and also spelled draconid)[7] or drakonaar[8][9][10] are humanoid dragon-like creatures typically used as guards[3] and soldiers for their dragonflight.

[rain cave]

So why are they called dracthyr

And why does this even matter

[crimson jasper]

don't even try Saint, l dont even know what he's saying

but l guess it is, to be polite

very subjective

[rain cave]

If I'm known for anything it's to argue pointless things for hours

[proper palm]

But it's Ion and the Blizzard team who say it, stop troll

[rain cave]

What do you meannnnnn

You're not even explaining yourself

Ion isn't the lore guy

[proper palm]

I just said the Drachtyr were drakonid like Ion and his team said lol

[rain cave]

He called the djardin half giants

[proper palm]

But no lore guy refuted it

[rain cave]

Giants don't exist in wow

So why are they called drathyr

Dracthyr

And are physically different from other draconic races

They are a draconic race

That is what ion said

He didn't call them specifically draconids

[proper palm]

Like Wrymide, Wrymide = Drakonid

It's a type of drakonid

[rain cave]

Tf is a wyrnide

Wyrmide

Like mana wyrms?

[rain cave]

Those are dragonkin

[proper palm]

But called Wrymide

Like Drachtyr are dragonkin but call Drachtyr xd

[rain cave]

So what is your point

[harsh mason]

Dracthyr is a subspecies of dragons (that is, unlike dragonkin, they have never been mortal)

Therefore, they can take the form of mortal races

That is, in fact, they are full-fledged dragons, not created only for military purposes

Therefore, Malygos, when he found out about them, decided to destroy them, since in his opinion they were unnatural for their kind

[rain cave]

they aren't dragons or dragonkin imo

they are part dragon, part mortal

just like how elves aren't trolls

they are part troll, part something else

[proper palm]

There is race and type
Orc = race
Humanoid = Type

Drachtyr= Race
Drakonid = Type

All dragon/nide can take mortal form, Drakonid to (Legendary rogue quest, Hiram Creed, )

The Drachtyr have only mortal their will, their essence, which makes mortals more powerful than deities
What made humans so powerful for example (Honor, courage etc..)

[rain cave]

so they aren't drakonids then

because drakonids can't take mortal form

[proper palm]

Please check Hiram Creed

[rain cave]

is he the only one that does this

the only drakonid

if so it could be explained by old god/ void magic

[proper palm]

With that and Ion saying Drachtyr = Drakonid .. :/

[rain cave]

the thing is that dragons are not dragonkin

and dracthyr are made FROM dragons and mortals

the dracthyr are humanoids

they are a mortal race made with dragon essence

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=183761/scalecommander-azurathel

type: humanoid

[proper palm]

Drachtyr have essence of mortals, not from mortals lol

Adaptability **

That less than essence

[rain cave]

I never said they were made from mortals

I said they are a mortal race made with the essence of dragons

just like how the trolls were turned into nelfs by the essence of elune/the well of eternity

[proper palm]

Drachtyr was humanoïd for the gameplay (cc stun etc) ^^

[rain cave]

and the dwarves, gnomes, humans were made from titans golems with the essence of death magic

[rain cave]

I linked an NPC

so this doesn't apply

the purpose of the dracthyr is to blur the line between dragon and mortal

not to be a simple draconid

they are technically a dragonkin, as dragons are dragonkin

but not fully

that would be like calling a worgen a beast

or a blood elf an arcane elemental

[proper palm]

Yes but it is not the same, Neltharion created dragons with the adaptability of mortals for their might and the power of all flight, whether we like it or not, it's still Drakonid

[rain cave]

they are not drakonids

[proper palm]

,noqenfui

Live in your imaginary lore

[rain cave]

it's not imaginary lore lmao

these are drakonids

[proper palm]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Dracthyr

[rain cave]

see

[proper palm]

The dracthyr are an ancient race of humanoid dragonkin

[rain cave]

dragonkin, not draconid

"When the dracthyr were revealed with the Dragonflight expansion, they were described as a drakonid, draconic race,[10] but it's currently not known if they will be considered a drakonid race in lore or if this was just a description during the reveal."

but we already know they are not drakonid's

as ingame they are humanoids

who are get power from dragons

they are part dragonkin

they are NOT draconid

[proper palm]

Yes !
Because Ion said it and nobody said otherwise so they leave it on hold but until we have something that goes against this thing we do.

[rain cave]

"Drakonid have been described as half-man, half-dragon.[11] Drakonid are mortals empowered by the dragons they serve, via intentional alteration or via "unintended side effect of hanging out with dragons".[12] The process does not have to be willing.[13]"

here

[proper palm]

Do you realize that saying they aren't draconid means they don't have any dragon elements?

[rain cave]

I don't know what you are trying to say

drakonids are according to the wiki, mortals empowered into that form

whereas the dracthyr are a RACE

made from mortal and dragon essence

[proper palm]

Wyrmid are a race to

[crimson jasper]

l literally sit hours at the vet and you STILL aren't done????

[rain cave]

and dracthyr aren't wyrmid

[proper palm]

Yes lol

[rain cave]

I only just got back

[proper palm]

But 2 races are drakonid

[rain cave]

no

[proper palm]

Me to don't worry we have a life

Ok

[rain cave]

drakonid is 1 race

it literally describes one thing

that's like saying gnomes and dwarves are the same race

because they come from adjacent places

[proper palm]

Drakonid = TYPE

[rain cave]

no

[proper palm]

,iqazdj)àkdaz

[rain cave]

dragonkin = TYPE

it's literally on the wiki

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Dragonkin

right here

[glad niche]

Dracthyr are born Dracthyr. Draconids are mortal races given dragon power and transformed. O3O

[rain cave]

that's what I was saying yeah

[glad niche]

Now, I return to sleep

[crimson jasper]

l mean it's literally written there too lol

[glad niche]

I wasn't disagreeing with saint or anything

[crimson jasper]

Mo l know

[rain cave]

oh no shuja wasn't targeting that at u

[crimson jasper]

*no

yea nah

[rain cave]

we're saying this to liam

[crimson jasper]

just lil busy, doggo is gettn looked at currently

[glad niche]

I'm just a huge dragon nerd and consumed mass quantities of wow dragon lore recently, so the differences are nice and fresh

[rain cave]

if dracthyr were just empowered mortals, i.e. draconids

they would have just called them that

and it wouldn't be a whole new class

but no dracthyr are new

a new race with new powers

[crimson jasper]

btw you know what started this

Dracthyr not having an overbite xD

[proper palm]

Either way Dragonkin or Drakonid as Ion said
It's still draconnians
So it comes down to the same thing

[glad niche]

We need a race with a puggish underbite uwu

[rain cave]

not really

[proper palm]

So why all the official info does not speak of mortels altered in Dragon but of an experiment between the adaptability of mortals and the dragon essence?

[rain cave]

because draconids are a specific race not a type

dragonkin are a type

[crimson jasper]

new worgen costumization? xD

[glad niche]

Do it blizz! I dare you!

[crimson jasper]

we had chihuahua worgen before so

[rain cave]

I think we shouldn't acknowledge/ egg on pugs as an idea though

because pugs are baaad

same with chihuahas

[crimson jasper]

irl they are both nice, all animals are tbf

[rain cave]

I'm not knocking them as animals

[glad niche]

They are. There are a lot of species with underbites. Pug was my example cause it's a common one

[rain cave]

it's just that they shouldn't exist

and I don't like it when media portrays pugs in a positive way since it kind of keeps the idea going the pugs are cute

when we should be stopping pug breeding

[glad niche]

I wouldn't say shouldn't exist. But def should be bred better. Which some groups are doing. Returning them to their healthier historical mixes

[rain cave]

the thing is that a 'pure' pug that is just 100% pug is going to be unhealthy, the things that make it a healthy pug is by making it less pug

[crimson jasper]

yea breeding for "beauty" is stupid

[rain cave]

but yeah I don't like the pug pet in WoW since it's like "haha look at this stupid dog it's so cute right"

when in reality i feel bad whenever I see a pug

[crimson jasper]

Neltharion should have made Corgi Dragons

[proper palm]

To finish with it : Maloriak is a Dragonkin btw and Blizzard would have specified it if we had used mortals directly, like him
I really think that the Drachtyr have nothing mortal, that they have more the spirituality and the spirit of mortals

I don't know how the word essence is in English, but in my language it's something very strong, it's literally all that makes a person

[rain cave]

maloriak isn't a dracthyr

so idk why you bring him up

[proper palm]

Maloriak is a experience, like Drachtyr

[rain cave]

and I am not saying dracthyr USED mortals

[proper palm]

I know isnt a drachtyr lol

[rain cave]

I am saying dracthyr are a race made from the essence of mortals and dragons

like gene splicing but fantasy

I guess

[proper palm]

Essence of dragons and adaptability of mortals
But what is ""adaptability"" for Blizzard

[crimson jasper]

as fellow Dragon enjoyers (l assume) l think we can agree that we got a rather cool race

and not for example old female worgen

[rain cave]

they just mean that they have dragon magic/ powers but a mortal mind

and demeanor

[glad niche]

I'm curious if we'll ever receive concrete lore about their life expectancy

[rain cave]

life expectancy basically means nothing in WoW

apart from being a backstory thing

[glad niche]

That's why I'd wanna know it

[rain cave]

night elfs lived 10's of thousands just so we can have that story

[glad niche]

Just character building type stuff

[rain cave]

but turalyon is thousands of years apparently

anyone who has any semblance of magic just lives forever age wise

[glad niche]

How old is kadghar

[rain cave]

not that old actually I don't think

[glad niche]

I spelled it wrong

[rain cave]

because he was artifically aged I thought

[proper palm]

Good question, they use red flight life magic ..
I know a paladin human will live longer than a normal human because of light, but Drachtyr with red magic is a good question

(when I talk about long, it's a few years for a classic paladin)

[glad niche]

They as a whole encompass all the magics. So no one Dracthyr is made up of more red dragon then another. The magics they individually can tap into, lore wise (for character building) only effect their battle prowess

Evokers are such big cheese cause they have the skill to play in all their gifts. Where as another Dracthyr has the same stuff making them up, but might have the easiest time tapping green magic

[proper palm]

No, but being imbued with magic has consequences for the user hehe, afterwards to be honest I think they have a much longer longevity than the draenei
Just to say in Roleplay that we lost count 😂

[glad niche]

Also curious if Dracthyr are mortals in the sense they have a life expectancy. Or if they are mortals in the sense that a vampire is mortal. (They don't live too good if you remove the head)

[proper palm]

Or are they mortal in the way they care and feel?

[glad niche]

nodnod like we know they have a mortal spark in the mix as their chemical X compound. But currently have nothing defining how it sets them apart other then "Oops! Two feet!"

Not that it's an oops. I just find entertainment in "dragon + mortal = anthro"

Also, I def want other visage races.

I wish to be a troll dragon

And not cause of blue flight grandpa

I'm not not a fan of playing strikingly "human" characters in my high fantasy

Tho I also don't plan to visage, like... Ever. A troll option would see it's use more on my end

[crimson jasper]

^
Literally me

not for troll but the other stuff xd

[glass flicker]

Then you'll be sad when you have to mount. You're put in Visage by default.

Despite Dragonriding being a major feature of the expansion, it doesn't mean you'll be able to do it everywhere. And it has a cooldown on Dracthyr. Have fun with this thought~

[crimson jasper]

nope not anymore

[glass flicker]

They changed it? Really?

[crimson jasper]

it's a toggle now so you can stay Dragon 24/7

[rain cave]

beginning to wonder why they even bothered with the visage forms

I assumed originally it was because dracthyr form used female meta skeleton

and that isn't animation complete

but now they're letting you stay in it 100% of the time

why not have used all the effort done for visage cutomisation go into riggint the dracthyr form

[crimson jasper]

well Visage still turns dragon for breath animations etc

just not other way around anymore

100% Dracthyr possible, Visage in "most" spells

if that's what ya meant? sorry rather tired

[rain cave]

no inverse

why does visage exist if they're letting you be in dracthyr 100% of the time

since the 'reason' why visage exists is now gone

[crimson jasper]

ah, well for the people that want to rather play elves

[rain cave]

(that being for animations the dracthyr rig does not have)

[crimson jasper]

cause Dracthyr Form is scalies l guess and everyone always wants more elves lol

[rain cave]

idk

feel like it might have been a better sweep if it had literally been

choose a visage form race

(no extra customisation, like worgen)

and then having the dracthyr form be more animated

and having all the tmog options

so basically scalie worgen but any race behind its visage

[crimson jasper]

l agree

but people want their choice

mh l gotta try and pass out

laters

[harsh mason]

There was very old information from old developers (back in the days of the Cataclysm) why dragons love the forms of elves and humans the most: so it's easier to enter into trust and take full advantage of everything that mortal life gives you (including sex). In general, they choose the form that is preferable to everything in the world. It wasn't my idea, it really was. And in fact, the idea that Dracthyrs take this form is also more aesthetic in nature.

Well, objectively, humans and elves are most common around the world.

We do not take old, like Senegos, who takes the form of a troll because of his age and worldview

[mossy meteor]

a'ight chat

predictions for today's build

what classes are getting new talents, how many changes will hunters get, will druids and priests keep crying because no changes

[signal bone]

mage seems likely, maybe warrior

maybe paladin

[uncut vault]

They really need to include at least one tank, ideally two

[jade basalt]

Or give dracthyr a tank spec, since literally everyone on alpha is playing dracthyr anyway. 👀

[proper crystal]

far more likely that they’ll open up dracthyr to other classes, like warrior

though that’ll probably be in a post-launch patch, but I would be surprised if they’re not working on it

[ember blaze]

that's what ion said

[languid yoke]

they've got some animations from other classes already that aren't used by them at all (finishing strikes, mutilate, charge, execute etc.) so it's likely they'll have more eventually ye

[ember blaze]

werent warrior and mage datamined last week? 🤔

with a nice long list

which was the same with shamans and then they got their trees

[languid yoke]

I still think their reasoning for no dracthyr tank spec is dumb, if they get a 3rd it should be that

yeah warrior and mage have the most stuff datamined

trailed by paladin. Monk doesn'T have much, warlock/DH basically have nothing

[ember blaze]

rather we get more ranged specs out of them

and in general

past 3 classes have all been entirely melee

[languid yoke]

midrange tank

[ember blaze]

no

[languid yoke]

yes

giev

[ember blaze]

what niche is there left for tanks

[languid yoke]

VDH but not shit

[ember blaze]

they got the whole dodging thing, shield thing, vampire thing

[ember blaze]

oh yeah, theres your dracthyr tank

😂

evoker should have gotten more black stuff in their class tree though

get tanky options like other classes

[languid yoke]

could be a more absorbtion-based tank with black/earth stuff. Other tanks all have some bits of that but it's more like short cooldowns for them, idk

or in the case of ignore pain utterly pointless to exist

[austere gazelle]

What if... ? We know through the Tauren's lore that An'she has been wounded by the Old Ones. Maybe It let a fragment of him, a shiny sun fragment, that is now atop Tyr's hold 😏
Like the Tear of Elune, we have the Spark of An'she ( or whatever his real name is )

[ember blaze]

why? brew also has that really low huge shield

[languid yoke]

I know

[rain cave]

every race has all animations, reason they made visage and dracthyr evoker only originally is probs because their rig didn't have all the animations but as dracthyr became more of a race and they added more animations I imagine they've realized they could easily just curb it into the full class list for not much added work

since I get the feeling that because dracthyr are like, new new new tech wise

they just kind of went "oh we can do that level of customisation?"

because SL was building on older models

these are literally from the ground up for that new barbershop model

[languid yoke]

that's only partially true. Blizzard did make the new animations so that they could be used by all races (more easily), but there a few exceptions (some missing monk animations for worgen/(goblin), Vulpera not having the new SkinningLoop animation all other races have) and they also sometimes look different between races

so depending on how much effort it is for blizzard to add the other all race animations to Dracthyr we can have a more or less solid first list of what we could expect to be dracthyr classes in like 11.0

[rain cave]

worgen has monk animations

[languid yoke]

worgen doesn't have all of them

[rain cave]

not sure about gobbo but I imagine they do if everything else does

but like the main stuff like stormstrike

uh

casting animations

like tauren has warlock casting animations

[languid yoke]

yes I know about all those

[rain cave]

humans have druid

etc

also idk I kinda wish we could choose a little bit of how those animations are applied even if I know it's for design reasons

[languid yoke]

I'm just saying there are a handful missing for multiple expansions now

[rain cave]

like imagine playing fire mage with shaman casting animations

or actually having good melee animations for DK

[languid yoke]

idk if that would make sense

[rain cave]

that aren't obliterate

[rain cave]

I just like how shamans just lob things at people

with lava surge

and want to do it with pyroblast instead of the hand clap mages do

I wanna brim with energy not clap

[ember blaze]

most things could use an animation pass imo

[glad niche]

Question

Do elixirs count as potions

Or are they different

Was starting to read the newest post when I paused to wonder if potion mastery effects elixirs

[languid yoke]

does dragonflight even have elixirs

[glad niche]

Dunno

[languid yoke]

cause I think it's just Potions and Phials (aka flasks)

[glad niche]

But to add to that. If not. How will older items benefit from the new systems overhauls

[languid yoke]

the new profession system is just for dragonflight things

old professions use the old system

[glad niche]

Ooooh. Ty

What professions are you planning to run on your lizard?

[languid yoke]

probably mining (racial bonus!) and engineering (brez for m+)

[glad niche]

Oooh

speaking of engineer, new post

[plain violet]

I really like the gadgets!

[ember blaze]

give evokers battle ress 😡

@cunning fossil https://www.wowhead.com/news/engineering-profession-equipment-models-in-dragonflight-327842?webhook

[glad niche]

does each healer not have a battle rez built in?

[ember blaze]

engineers get so much 😶

[languid yoke]

the only healer that has a brez is druid

[ember blaze]

and shaman

[cunning fossil]

Engineers are fucking awesome

Also we get increased utility in exchange for 0 monetary returns

[cunning fossil]

These models looks absolutely METAL

[ember blaze]

you get mounts every expac

[proper crystal]

Nope, only classes with brez are druid, death knight, (limited) warlock, and (self-only; edit: +totem) shaman

[glad niche]

I c I c

[cerulean lava]

here we go again, the Alpha invite drama 🙌

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[ember blaze]

totem

[proper crystal]

Ah, right.

[cunning fossil]

They're Hella hard to make tho. Especially if they aren't current content

[nocturne totem]

The only engineering exclusive mounts were in TBC

[cunning fossil]

He means mounts in general

As money makers

Which isn't as reliable as consumables or bags etc

For a constant stream of income

Because you can only ever need to buy one mount

And be ne

[nocturne totem]

Last couple expansions the only utility has been like the wormhole too. Nothing else really nice added.

[cunning fossil]

Exactly

Being an engi has been shafted

I wanna do cool shit

[nocturne totem]

Also Zereth Mortis wormhole upgrade source is super dumb

[cunning fossil]

That's why I picked it up in legion

Wait there's a ZM source?

How

[nocturne totem]

Paragon Cache from The Enlightened 😂

[cunning fossil]

[nocturne totem]

By the time you get 10k rep over Exalted you're going to be sick of the place

Not even sure if it is a guarantee drop either

[cunning fossil]

Oh lordy I already and I don't think I'm exalted either

[nocturne totem]

It will be nice to try to grind rares and let's and mounts in later expansions though

To have the teleport

Will act as an Oribos teleport too

Doh you already get it from the wormhole

I'm silly

But yeah convenient for later grinding

[cunning fossil]

True

[nocturne totem]

Takes so long to get any of the mount/pet mats

[ember blaze]

i'll just farm that in df

gl on alpha invites 🙏

[glad niche]

do you just get an email if you get in alpha or something?

[errant prairie]

Always check launcher first. Email does arrive but it takes a while.

[dense plover]

^

but they likely wont do a wave until build goes out

[harsh wedge]

I did not get any email and got the alpha last week

[dense plover]

bare minimum servers will go down before they do the wave

because they dont want people who were invited for the new phase testing the last one

[harsh wedge]

Never mind, it was burrowed, got the email the next day (so Wednesday)

[glad niche]

another Q

since new invites go out, does it add to the pile of testers? Or do yall have to be reinvited each wave?

[ionic terrace]

It adds

Once you’re in, you’re in

[dense plover]

^

[cunning fossil]

Win that lottery suckers

[dense plover]

but again, invites wont go out until the servers go down

probably a few hours from now

[cunning fossil]

Yea

[dense plover]

probably between 1 and 3pm PST

[fierce shell]

might be the first expac where i do engineering. maybe

[dense plover]

im definitely gonna be doing my jewelcrafting

and trying out professions on alts

[fierce shell]

will gathering professions have talents too? i wonder what they will be to compete with how crazy the production proffesions are now

[dense plover]

supposedly

only secondary wont

though cooking/fishing might have SOMETHING

[uncut vault]

Honestly you’d be surprised, there’s only about a handful of folks playing evoker consistently in queues

We mostly know each other and chat in the discussion channel lol

[dense plover]

can someone in alpha ping me when the servers go offline?

[austere gazelle]

usually the mail arrives weeks ( sometime month ) later xD

[harsh wedge]

Yeah got it right at the same time with the mail to tell me shadowlands' season 4 was soon starting so I did not pay attention

But I got the mail almost 24 hours after I got access

[dense plover]

they send it with the invite

but it can take a day because it has to be "read" by whatever security thing is stopping emails

[jade basalt]

Literally everyone in the Stormwind training grounds is dracthyr, I've only very rarely seen non-dracthyr races train and test their rota or talents there

And all the dungeons I've ran was me + 4 dracthyr

Got to run dungeons as Tank otherwise it's just impossible to find groups

[dense plover]

dont worry - when i get to testing dungeons, it will be on a tank

[coarse quail]

Does wow r gonna to add another bank slots?!?!?

[upper pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-18842824

[coarse quail]

The bank slot

U know

Where u can keep any item in the bank.

[upper pasture]

IS Wow gonna add another bank slot? who knows were getting another bag slot so maybe?

[jade basalt]

One downside I found though is that I get 0 time and opportunity for proper exploring and enjoying of the dungeon. Like if I stop for 5 seconds the group starts pulling mobs to move forward.

(as a tank)

So I leave the exploring and taking screenshots bit for the end, once the dungeon is cleared I just go back and actually start looking at stuff.

[dense plover]

well, once enough of us are in alpha, we can always group up

[jade basalt]

True!

My best run so far was running Neltharus with Taliesin, otherwise I feel like most people aren't really there to truly test stuff, at least not that early on

[ionic terrace]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-dragonriding/1279462/39

[dense plover]

told ya that it was missing some turning stuff

"Dragon Glyphs are hidden throughout the skies over The Waking Shores! Fly through them to unlock achievements (and points for the Dragonriding Skill Track)" - this is neat

"The Dragonriding Skill Track is now accessible at the dragonriding trainer at Skytop Observatory (Lithragosa)

Not all skills are displayed or implemented, but the player may earn points by collecting Dragon Glyphs and spend them for progression"

i didnt know it was going to be a choice tree

i figured it would unlock over time

probably means we can expect a build soon

[signal bone]

I hope they add combat to the dragonriding

[rain cave]

there are PvP nodes in the tree apparently

like you can drain peoples speed and vigor to down them

[dense plover]

theres some evidence of like, breath attacks and calling in support

or being able to flyby attack in certain scenarios maybe?

its not super clear

[cerulean lava]

there's a new Alpha invite wave today yep?

[jade basalt]

Yup

[dense plover]

servers just went down

so invite within 1-2 hours and then over the next 4 or so hours once it starts

oh this is also the build with the visage form change button

so right now we are waiting on the alpha patch notes update, the overview tweet, and the first few people saying they got in

based on last week, it could be a few hours

but who knows

[harsh wedge]

@dense plover What do you mean the visage from change button ?

form*

[dense plover]

theyre adding a button to toggle between visage and dracthyr

instead of it changing in combat

[harsh wedge]

Wasn't it already there ? I swear I could

Or was it just the chosen identity one ?

I thought I had two buttons for it

[plain violet]

I think he talk also about "Chosen Identity"

[dense plover]

^

this

[harsh wedge]

Chosen identity was already in last week

[dense plover]

idk how it works exactly currently

oh

lol

guess this is just the hunter changes and waking shore build

and at least one more class probably

if not more than 1