#classic-wow | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 15

split tartan Dec 16, 2018, 1:41 AM

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What type of playstyle do you want?

silent marlin Dec 16, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Death Knight is my favorite classic class tbh

split tartan Dec 16, 2018, 1:42 AM

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I like Warlocks.

fair karma Dec 16, 2018, 1:43 AM

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I was about to be like 'but' and then realized you were being snarky, Sky

silent marlin Dec 16, 2018, 1:43 AM

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thank

split tartan Dec 16, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Hm.

maiden river Dec 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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can i play in classic a dh?

oblique folio Dec 16, 2018, 1:05 PM

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No ofc

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Classic emulates vanilla. So only things in vanilla are available

obtuse folio Dec 17, 2018, 2:19 AM

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this channel is poppin!

civic steppe Dec 19, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Poppin' with sass

maiden river Dec 19, 2018, 11:02 PM

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BFABAD

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thats how it is

void moss Dec 21, 2018, 2:00 AM

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🍺

bitter ledge Dec 22, 2018, 9:27 AM

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📎 image0-20.png

primal crow Dec 23, 2018, 11:29 AM

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📎 1b4.gif

lucid vigil Dec 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

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is it possible to get marks of honor at level 20?

bright root Dec 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Ofc it is.. Rn on retail and also in vanilla / classic have twinks gear from marks, but it was marks for every bg

bright root Dec 25, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Any predictions about addons for classic? Cuz i have in my mind thoughs if will controller mod and action camera / more RPGish style of quest/story telling addon working, cuz classic is bassed on 7.3 client

oblique folio Dec 26, 2018, 12:04 AM

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action camera doesn't exist on classic tho.

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Like those will get disabled come classics launch

bright root Dec 26, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Sure i hope so, but will be interested how much it can change how game look and u know, some fancy stuff, but yas, im fan of #NOCHANGES

low wedge Dec 26, 2018, 9:13 AM

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if you want true classic

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ban all addons in classic

hexed finch Dec 26, 2018, 10:50 AM

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correction have only carbonite quest tracker in classic as addon

oblique folio Dec 26, 2018, 12:31 PM

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correction remove all addons, discord, wowhead and the general wow communities of the internet. You didnt have those back then

hexed finch Dec 26, 2018, 12:32 PM

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let's tweet at the discord devs to disable discord if it detects wow classic as a running program on your system

spark lodge Dec 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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we had thotbot, that was about it

oblique folio Dec 26, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Assuming you knew what thotbot was.

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Remember this was 2004. The internet was still very young

spark lodge Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM

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i was 13 when wow came out and knew of thottbot. sounds like an alliance player issue

grizzled juniper Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Assuming you mindless horde

royal condor Dec 26, 2018, 3:24 PM

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you can too nowadays remove all addons and stop visiting wowhead for every quest you sumble upon

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the choise is yours, the game is the same

hexed finch Dec 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

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well,some people are weak willed or dont have much DETERMINATION so even if they do that,the urge to check on wowhead will be too strong

grizzled juniper Dec 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Stronk

royal condor Dec 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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then those people shouldnt praise vanilla as something so divine

sleek pike Dec 27, 2018, 5:55 AM

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When should i download?

📎 20181226_224814.jpg

hexed finch Dec 27, 2018, 11:04 AM

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i unironically have that too stashed somewhere

spark lodge Dec 27, 2018, 2:12 PM

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i still have the guidebook around that became outdated pretty much as soon as the first patch hit

oblique folio Dec 27, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Guides for MMOs OMEGALUL

spark lodge Dec 27, 2018, 2:15 PM

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hindsight

clear narwhal Dec 28, 2018, 4:58 AM

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I've got mine displayed on a shelf in my room because it was my original copy when I was younger.

steep zephyr Dec 28, 2018, 5:49 AM

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can i eat them?

idle kite Dec 28, 2018, 11:35 AM

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you can try...

broken olive Dec 28, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I think I have mine somewhere around as well...

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Also, I do remember Thottbot, and we had addons. Doing Molten Core with Decursive as a druid (it was pretty hardcore to do it without). I also remember a threat meter at some point (but that was a bit hit-and-miss). Also, we raided without voice chat (the reason given: it would break immersion on our RP realm. Also, looking back, it would probably have revealed which of the guys were pretending to be female. And which girls were pretending to be male, so they could just play the game).

sour fog Dec 28, 2018, 2:08 PM

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learned that RP realms raided in an RP setting

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how was loot distributed then in those days?

grizzled juniper Dec 28, 2018, 2:13 PM

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By how cool you were ofc

fair karma Dec 28, 2018, 2:44 PM

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RPers raid like normal raiders. 😐

spark lodge Dec 28, 2018, 5:45 PM

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raid loot back then went by how cool you were > to seniority > to dkp > to who actually needed it

thorn canopy Dec 28, 2018, 8:10 PM

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People have such a peculiar impression of RPers and their game habits

sour fog Dec 28, 2018, 8:29 PM

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I just imagine a LARPer behind a keyboard, or some kind of hipster artist playing wow

broken olive Dec 29, 2018, 10:44 PM

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We mostly raided like normal raiders. We did have a little RP intro thing we played at the start, but that was only the first few times per instance.

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Loot distribution ... I recall a DKP system.

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Raid lead wasn't happy when I got the druid chest item (because I had the points, and we had the RL plus me as druids at the time, and they'd just spent the points)

rapid onyx Jan 3, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Wait how do you even have classic I’m a noob

grand citrus Jan 3, 2019, 1:40 AM

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some did the beta a while ago

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but this is mostly people recalling

rapid onyx Jan 3, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Oh 👌

broken olive Jan 3, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Yeah, my stuff was from when it was the only WoW in town 😄

desert verge Jan 4, 2019, 10:53 AM

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both are 385?

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just the first one isn't defined as specific item?

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ok wrong link in the latter, but it's 385 in the v endor

primal crow Jan 5, 2019, 6:07 AM

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😡

maiden river Jan 9, 2019, 10:58 PM

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I can't wait for Classic to be released, I want to relive the memories with my father who bought me my first PC back when vanilla came out and we played together until end of Wrath

oblique folio Jan 9, 2019, 11:19 PM

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but you won't get those memories back.

broken olive Jan 10, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Making new memories!

maiden river Jan 10, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Nostalgia is nice

whole salmon Jan 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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horde

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 12:28 AM

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You can't relive those exact memories again, but you can do the "I remember when"

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which is what people mean when they say relive

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 12:29 AM

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but you can do that without playing hte game

vale ember Jan 12, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Nothing happens twice the same so reliving can end up in disappointment and that can lead to more toxicicity from 'passionate gamers'. Classic doesnt have me hyped by i wish yall great experiences and little bad ones

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Yea you can do it without the game but maybe listening to that piece of music or revisting an area where you had trouble will definetly trigger it

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 AM

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but why require one when you can do it without?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:37 AM

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they want to see the sights again, smell the same air etc

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it's like going on holidays to the same place you have already been

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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but it won't be the same. :v

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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some people enjoy. Clearly you wouldn't do that

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Oh no I do. But each time I say go back to Universal Studios

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Yea it won't be the exact same, but still

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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it's different every single time

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It'll never be the same experience twice.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Idk what universial studios is

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Then you are missing out on a fun holiday spot

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It's a theme park here in Florida

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Explains alot never been to the US. Anyway our theme parks also change so theme parks so not a good example

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More like going to that same getaway spot in the mountains

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Or Christmas

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I still remember sitting under the tree unwrapping presents as a kid

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:41 AM

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My christams' are never the same. Granted that I never go to a spot in the mountains, snow amounts, weather and even the air itselfwillchange with time.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:41 AM

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that's why we still have the same Christmas tree as when I was a kid

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Wait you replanted your old tree so it wouldn't die?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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It's a fake tree

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Ah. So fabricated.

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Not really yoru best example eitehr :p

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I mean, that's not the point

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The point is that whenever I see that tree I get those memories flooding back

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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So what is the point? That we can only experience nostalgia when old things are around?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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No, but it helps

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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BUt why is it necessary is what I keep asking. If we can experience the nostalgia just fine without it by simply remembering.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Anyway, Classic is not only just "we want nostalgia" it's also the fact that people preffer that time of the game

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 AM

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and that's fine for them, but there's other ways to get that part of the game without paying the company they so greatly hate.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Some people want to revisit the site, as a fun activity to do

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Not everyone does it, clearly you don't

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Revisit what site?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 AM

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location* or w/e

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Also not every "We want classic" person hates Blizzard

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I've yet to see that be proven wrong.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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They don't like the current game

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but they don't hate Blizzard

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Blizzard made WoW Classic, they're bringing it back. Why hate them?

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Yes and blame blizzard for constantly ruining their perfect game. Stating the company is utter garbage

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how is that nothating?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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I know heaps of people that don't

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Well they did ruin classic with newer expansion, it was going to happen. The game was going to evolve

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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SO how does that ruin it if the game evolves?

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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I know people that don't hate Blizzard

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but want to play Classic

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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I know them too. but the onesthat don't hate blizzard also either don't want or don't care about classic.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Well idk ;/ mabye you never met anyway you loves Blizzard and wants Classic

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The evolution of the game does not ruin the game but people prefer and older version

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Why contradict yourself tho. If evolving doesn't ruin a game, why state that it got ruined?

I don't want classic btw. Rather, that's incorrect of me to say

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I only want 1 thing fromclassic and that'sthe old Teldrassil, Darkshore and Ashenvale zones

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three things I guess.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I don't understand how i'm contractdicting myself, i'm not pressing my side of the argument. I'm just trying to get you to understand why people would want to play classic

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I have never played Classic, i'm going to try it see if I like it or not.

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Well they did ruin classic with newer expansion, it was going to happen. The game was going to evolve

The evolution of the game does not ruin the game but people prefer and older version

those two are in direct conflict with each other

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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the first line is miss interpreted

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Ah I see.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I meant that some people feel they did

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But reaons people want Classic are A. They want to run into old zones that they knew and get those memories flooding back. 2. Enjoy a state of the game which they enjoy more

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Both reasons are also why the #NoChanges is heavily spammed

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Also in Blizzards perspective, it's a good way to get the constant "Bring back Classic retail sucks" people to calm the fuck down

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Tbh at the moment the whole gaming community as a whole is getting the nostalgia. Probably a reflection of how commercialize video gaming is becoming as a whole.

grizzled juniper Jan 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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We reached a point where some heavily miss the things they had as children, and hate things that new people like

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I also tend to think that the community is conservative

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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oh no we are very gay asa community.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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so the new is scary and the old is "the best" because it's alredy been explored

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I mean conservative in the way we approach new content, not everything political

grizzled juniper Jan 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Those are closed minded people

kindred granite Jan 12, 2019, 2:43 AM

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old good new bad

idle kite Jan 12, 2019, 6:23 AM

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not everything new is bad and not everything old is good...

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you think gaming companies remaster or releases old games because they were bad? what would be the point of rereleasing a bad old game, too lose money again?

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and new stuff is not bad because its new, its bad because its just plain bad

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classic has very good gameplay... thus people what to play it again. its like chess or monopoly... you only play that once have a great time and never play it again cuz it wont be the same?!?!?

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at its core, people want to play classic cuz its a good game... nostagia or no nostalgia

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 7:20 AM

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but it's not a good game at a base

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Were vanilla wow released today as it was back in 2004, it'd have died out

civic sonnet Jan 12, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Vanilla was released at a good time. EQ1 was onto its 7th or 8th expansion and AoC was getting much traction. Classic is new content to new players who never ground the content back when it was relevant.

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AoC wasn’t*

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Yea it was. It was simple luck of the market it got released when it did. But when a game has to actively be fixed while its live to prevent game breaking bugs, or fix its broken taxi services, or has to be remade from the ground up to make its classes viable.

Those arent hallmarks of a good game.

green folio Jan 12, 2019, 9:57 AM

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You speak as if it was the worst version of wow and every must think like that

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Nobody everyone agrees with you

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And AlexxCri's analogy sums up bascially what I was saying before

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It's a version of the game that people enjoy, including it's ups and downs. Like how you enjoy retail with all it's ups and downs

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Also Makore, that is a closed minded statement

oblique folio Jan 12, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Except for the fact that everyone but you want to claim it was so much better and ignore the bad bits. While I address and admit the flaws of the current, Id certainky never go back to when times were far worse.

broken olive Jan 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I'm willing to try Classic (again), but I played in the demo bit that was available around Blizzcon, and it was ... grindy as ### 😛

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Not sure I still have either the time or the patience to get far in it.

spark lodge Jan 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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demo made me appreciate the current UI

hexed finch Jan 12, 2019, 3:01 PM

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@broken olive that was Just a tiny bit of It,how about traveling back and forth between kalimdor and EK and running them top to botton as a lvl 30 shaman,with no mount,
JUST to be able to heal (water totem chain)

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And thats why i didnt make a shaman from BC until late legion,

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The ptsd was too strong

idle kite Jan 12, 2019, 5:31 PM

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i said at its core its a good game. sure it had its flaws... but if you try to get past those you will see that it has much more to offer.

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and saing that is was launched at thr perfect time is kinda mute point really. people that atr very young that could have never played back in the day, play on privatr servers and cant get enough of it. really cool too see that someone that never ever could have tried it before see it as a good game as you saw it so many years ago. that is pretty much proof that this type of gameplay is somehow grabing you and making you keep playing regardless if you are old young nostalgic or not. thats why it kept growing so much until wrath-cata when things started to slowly change within the core of the game philosophy.

bright root Jan 12, 2019, 7:31 PM

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i love meaning of this class/RP site of game ..

fervent junco Jan 24, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I'd like to ask a question about the release of classic as regards owning the game. When it's release will we need to buy a "Classic" version or will we be able to use what we already own?

grizzled juniper Jan 24, 2019, 7:04 PM

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If you have sub that is enough

fervent junco Jan 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

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@grizzled juniper thanks!

scenic kettle Jan 26, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Ok so I just heard that in Classic Taurens get a 2yard range bonus to melee, does that mean that they do not heave a deadzone as hunters??

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or well, a 1y daedzone instead

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Other way around. Theyd have a 2 yard longer deadzone than other hunters because they swap to melee sooner

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Since all previous add-ons will be disabled or InOp at the time of release what do you all think might be a proper time frame for folks working on add-ons to have them ready? In other words how long do we figure to play classic for without the benefit of add-ons?

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Thsts 100% not up to us or blizz. @fervent junco

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Thats entirely up to the addon makers.

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Addons arent being disabled, theyre simply not up to date

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:10 PM

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? Of course it is up to the company, who else should decide that? Just for a point of reference I was intrigued by the conversation here

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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767757939

Will Vanilla Addons Work in Classic? - World of Warcraft Forums

Due to the whole "built-from-the-ground-up" type deal that's surrounding the development of Classic, I'd assume not, right? I'm not a programmer, so I have no idea how the addons originally from Vanilla would work on Classic, if at all. If not, then I suppose we'll have to wa...

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So I thought I'd ask around and see if anybody had anything more concrete

grizzled juniper Jan 27, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Im going to say

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Vanilla had addons enabled. Why wouldn't classic? Addons are not being disabled as far as we know. It's simply up to the creators of those addons to make them adapt to Classic.

grizzled juniper Jan 27, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Let the devs of the addons decide

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:12 PM

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To your question of "What time frame can we get to play classic with addons" that's not up to blizz. Blizz doesn't make addons

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I agree with you, hence my question. I'm wondering how long it might take the devs...

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:13 PM

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You'd be better set in asking them. To which I imagine the answer to be: "Once we actually get to see the lua code of classic we can get an estimate."

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:13 PM

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What I thought though is that ultimately blizzard can decide yes or no to allow

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I'm assuming they will

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:13 PM

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They can choose whether or not to allow or disallow addon usage, you're correct in this.

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However

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Using history of what vanilla was (yes it had addons back then), and current philosophy, there's no reason to believe there wouldn't be addons

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is my point

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So at that point it's no longer up to blizz but the individual devs.

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Actually funny story

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if it weren't for addons

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A lot of QoL changes to WoW wouldn't have happened

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like quest tracking

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:15 PM

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So you're point is about the code...once Deb's know they can react accordingly. What's worst case would you imagine...three months, six?

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Honestly I can't say

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Devs

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:16 PM

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IT depends on each specific addon. Some are real simple andmay take max a month to make

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others are more complex and may take 6

umbral spade Jan 27, 2019, 2:16 PM

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add ons will happen again. just give the people time to work on all the coding

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Just been pumped about this for a long while. My days off vanilla are a fond memory and I can't wait to do it again 😊

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Of*

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:18 PM

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very happy for you. Mine were not so fond

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months grinding BRS just to hit max

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:18 PM

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LoL

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:18 PM

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what about League of Legends?

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Same here

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It was ugly and brutal but beautiful too

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Not really. Think the only thing I legitimately miss is old ashenvale.

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that's about it.

fervent junco Jan 27, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Hehe LoL hehe

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I miss all of it

oblique folio Jan 27, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Again what does League of Legends have to do here

grizzled juniper Jan 27, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Hmm

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Blizz released BfA lua a week before launch, right?

faint tapir Jan 27, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I miss old darkshore

hexed finch Jan 27, 2019, 2:42 PM

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well,like how ppl missed old world when cataclysm happened

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deal with it :p

faint tapir Jan 27, 2019, 2:43 PM

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GWmythsBlobGlare

faint tapir Jan 27, 2019, 5:02 PM

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i mean

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it's coming back with classic so....

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I don't need to?

thorn canopy Jan 28, 2019, 4:01 PM

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So glad we’ll be able to hang out in Auberdine again 😃

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 12:50 AM

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If blizzard came out with expansions after vanilla, i'd be so happy. I'm totally willing to wait a few years if it means bc or wrath classic. Really anything before legion cause i started in late wod and i wanna experience those xpacs lol. Perhaps in the near future

sturdy trench Jan 29, 2019, 1:32 AM

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No matter what, they'll never be as they were back then. People have changed, gained more experience etc. It's a shame but that's just how it is.

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Yeah that's the downside that you'll never be able to do something about unless you go back in time

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:39 AM

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that's not how classic works @cerulean briar

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Classic is just named that because "World of Warcraft" was the name of Vanilla

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:39 AM

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i pretty sure it's going to keep going after vanilla

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:40 AM

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there's 0 plans to keep it going forward. Said by the devs behind classic itself

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:40 AM

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*Current plans

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Their main focus is vanilla

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Atm

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:40 AM

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their ONLY focus is vanilla

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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not necessarily

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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We've not seen them hire devs of other Blizz-like private servers out of BC and WotLK

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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they haven't said "vanilla is our only focus" They've said "Vanilla is out only focus at the moment"

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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why give the expectation that there will be more

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when you know for a fact there isn't yet

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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because people will cry out

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:41 AM

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they only hired out for Vanilla

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because they wanted classic to be a thing.

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that's it

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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blizz isn't going to make vanilla, patch 1.12, then ditch it

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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That's EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR

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in which they aren't making patch 1.12

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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no content after 1.12? boringgg

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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they're making patch 1.13

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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ohhh

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as in dragon isles?

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Nope

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no new content

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patch 1.13 is just the patch they have to give it

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because they cannot just make patch 1.12

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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well yeah 1.13 cause classic but what comes after classic

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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with the battle.net client

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it's just classic

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that's it

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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so how is the updated gonna work

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over time new patches

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Everything that was in patch 1.12

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is here

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that's it

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it'll get time-gated

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over the next few years

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they'll see how it goes

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if it's successful

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they might keep going

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:44 AM

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what happens after naxx?

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Immediately after naxx came out, BC came out. However, since we don'thave that constraint with Classic

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Naxx will be the last thing to release

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they'll look over everything

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if they deem it a success

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they'll go ahead consider BC

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not before

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after

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:44 AM

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plus xpacs after vanilla will be easier to make since they're not as old as vanilla

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Not at all

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they'd be just as if not MORE difficult than vanilla to emulate

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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especially cata and mop cause you won't have to change the wolrd

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Again

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not entirely the case

cerulean briar Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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servers will be the issue though

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Changing the world isn't the reason Classic has taken so long

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They're having to go through, from legion, and work backwards

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to remove all the bug fixes, all the QoL changes, everything to revert it and emulate it in the Legion client

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As again, THAT is the easier route

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Patch 1.13 is 1.12 Made compatible for classic

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Wait, so if Classic is successful blizz will continue releasing xpacs?

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:52 AM

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it's a possibility

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NOT A PROMISE

sturdy trench Jan 29, 2019, 1:52 AM

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If Classic is successful they'll -THINK- about it.

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:52 AM

#

^

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it'll be talked over their dev table on if they'll want to essentially just be runnign a second version of WoW

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which they did state at the start of this that they didn't want to do

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they just wanted to emulate the beginning of WoW to see our roots and where we came from

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:53 AM

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That would be awesome

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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What people doesnt think is

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What is a "success" for Blizzard

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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If all they do is Vanilla tho I'll still be satisfied

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Remember that we literally have the Classic for free

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(If you already pay your sub)

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So what is a success?

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A lot of people after the second semester?

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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High population

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Indeed, but this is gonna have legion graphics right

fair karma Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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No

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Nope

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Nope

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this is a pure emulation of Vanilla

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Oh,

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:56 AM

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shitty graphics added

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Okay

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Its not remastered

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:56 AM

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No QoL that we enjoy today

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It's bare bones

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If you think today is slowed down and empty in terms of content to do OH BOI

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:57 AM

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It's more for people to experience the true vanilla wow,, gotcha

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:57 AM

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not even tbh

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this is the fixed Vanilla

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not the true one

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the true one you didn't play. It was broken

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buggy

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but it was the best MMO on the market because it was popular

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Ye, I wanted that virus😐

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:57 AM

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so people played it

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 1:58 AM

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This is like

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Vanilla if it was released in better terms

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Where everyone was dying from a infliction from a boss?

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Oh that happened before or after

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but we're talking like

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the boats

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the fuckin boats

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would send you three zones away from where they were supposed to be

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GMs would summon world bosses into cities

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AHs aren't linked up.

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so it's a city by city basis

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so anywhere not Ironforge was empty

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Haha, sounds fun

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 1:59 AM

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It wasn't

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Mind you there was no server tech to handle thousands of players

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So it was L A G G Y

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and Vanilla didn't have sharding

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so guess what else won't have sharding

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Iirc

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Ye I played to like lvl 30 something but dont remember much of the detail

grizzled juniper Jan 29, 2019, 2:00 AM

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They said that day one will be sharded

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 2:00 AM

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I was playing on a dude you're getting a dell back then

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 2:01 AM

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I remember it fondly because it left such a horrible taste in my mouth

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Lol

oblique folio Jan 29, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Were it not for the fact that I had friends who played it, I would have just quit and never looked back

opaque mauve Jan 29, 2019, 2:02 AM

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That's what I was gonna say, i had so many friends that were playing

grizzled juniper Feb 7, 2019, 1:39 PM

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https://youtu.be/Ev-cy000SaM

YouTube

Classic Winds

10 Reasons to Avoid Streamer's Servers in Classic WoW

10 Reasons to avoid playing with a streamer in Classic WoW. We love playing with them but doing so will ruin your classic experience find out why! Let me kno...

▶ Play video

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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any of you have old gaming magazines with wow vanilla reviews or previews? can anyone take some photos and post them... getting kinda nostalgic and would really enjoy a good read until my wow diary is delivered.

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Not really. Most of the reviews are heavily eschewed anyways. With the market being so much smaller and far less refined than todays standards.

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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trying finding some on the web.. but no success

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true.. but still.. cool to see how great it was viewed back than compared to the rest of mmos even though it def had its problems

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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So you'd want someone to just endlessly praise it while excusing or just omitting it's issues? :p

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what does that do?

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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yes

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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recently reread some of my old local magazines that had wow reviews... wow your really feel the hype in each sentance

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yea he does just wanna stick his head in the ground.

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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lol... a review is a review. it will always be judged but will have a squed view depending of the reviewer

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i was hype for classic until i realized it wasn't gonna be current ui and no scaling. just classic.

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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thats why publications usually put people that enjoy that francisr or type of game to review something

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Well yea if it was current day UI

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it wouldn't be classic WoW

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that would be a QoL improvement and thus a direct hampering of what Classic was.

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:00 PM

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that would've been nice imo

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dont think i'd want anything else messed around with, but those are gonna be big things that really blew about classic that'll make the nostalgia go away real quick

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Classic wasn't about QoL improvements though.

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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cough

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tell that to the fanatical and rabid

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NO CHANGES

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crowd

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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ok ok.. i just asked for something to read if anyone had something.... not to start another endless debate on hoe classic sucks or does not suck. you guys need to chill... lifes to short

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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people will waste their time how they see fit 😛

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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well you screwed up then alexx

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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so true 😂

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Indeed. If i choose to sit here and tell people how much classic sucked and refuse to let them sit in nostalgia blindly that's my own right

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just as it's your right to block me and ignore me

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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neah.. always fun to see your rants

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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everytime people tell me classic was the best thing ever

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i just have vietnam flashbacks

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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same

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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of the shaman totem questlines

idle kite Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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lol

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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by walking

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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oh god forgot about those

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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My 'nam flashbacks were of endlessly grinding a dungeon

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cuz the quests didn't get my to level 60

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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having to hike across arathi at lv20...

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Oh yea that's right

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no mounting

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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doing back and forth through the continents

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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you have to litearlly run on foot

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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3 times

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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everywhere

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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for HEALING SPELLS

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Why was this game fun to people

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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and flightmasters dont automatically connect your paths, if where you want to fly to isn't connected to where you wanna go you're SOL

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yup

spark lodge Feb 7, 2019, 7:04 PM

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why did you do this to us @idle kite

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 7:06 PM

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you triggered our PTSD

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thats the evilest thing you can do

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@AlexxCri MadSession have some old articles in his YT videos in descriptions

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Oh he left

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Topkek

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Lulw

frigid fractal Feb 7, 2019, 9:15 PM

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He didn't

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 9:16 PM

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And im scared... Cuz blizz already have some "QoL" what can ruin classic.. Dat trade gear (increase ninja or gear selling population) or RMB report...

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Still hope sharding will be max first few days

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Yas, everything have light side, but can do more damage to game then improve it

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And ofc, cant wait for colecting my totems :D

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 9:28 PM

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So wait

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you want ninja looters to be in?

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the QoL improvement is being able to trade the gear between peeps. Removing it would makeamistake a ninja loot or someone to just ML everything to himand run

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Yes, BUT in same case ninjas population increase..
For example.. 3 frends do dungeon with another 2 random ppl from chat.. And frends decise "hey guys, can u plz roll this for me and give it? Screw this two randoms" or "mmmmm, do u wanna your preBIS caster head? No problem, gimme 50g and i'll trade it to you"....
Same problem with right click report.. Whole enemy premade in bg decise report your flag Carrier (or kazzak main tank or what ever) and he will be kicked out of game, based on multiple reports, cuz this is "robot work" now.. Or somebody didnt like you and report you with his guild or party for language.. U got DC and after that "squeck buff".. U will be basicaly silenced, unable to speak.. In retail u can still join some RGB, RDF and shit like that.. In classic? Everything is based on comunication.... So, enjoy 24h mute for example and no dungeon, trade etc without guild discord...

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Original ninja looting = lets fuck up these guys or mmmm i wanna use this item..
Trading = fuck up everybody anytime and make muny from that

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I totally understand idea why its good.. And totally understand why Activisions bitch (bigB) wanna it in game.. Cuz they dont want hire GMs.. They already throw a lot of human support from company.. And this is more EZ for them..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 9:59 PM

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You konw

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just because you want to absolutely drag Blizz through the mud

#

I just can't take anything you say seriously

#

Whether it's through blatant misinformation or just you trying to make them look bad

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:00 PM

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I love blizzard.. But losing thrust

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:00 PM

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But you don't actuallylove them then

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Blind live isnt love ;)

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:01 PM

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You make assumptions for the company and constantly want to bash any move they make that makes the game worse in your opinion

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 10:01 PM

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you're losing Thrust?

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are you getting old

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I don't have blind love for blizz, just this week I think they massively fucked up with Jaina's hotfix being reverted which got Method their mythic kill before the reset

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but I'm not going to go around spouting they are Activision's Bitch

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 10:02 PM

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des have you seen the latest news

#

they nerfed jaina's boobs in hearthstone

#

e.e

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:02 PM

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It isnt just my opinion..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:02 PM

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You're right, it's the opinion of a million other disgruntled players who can't deal with change

#

You can just stop typing Haze

#

you want Mob Justice to be a thing

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Blizz said "if someone fall in comma in time of vanilla and avake after classic release he dont recognise diference" same as "we want maximum acurate state of game what it was" and this changes arent part.. It is lie

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:04 PM

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that's really all that's left.

#

What if I were to tell you that each patch of the game

#

changes the game

#

So that if someone played day 1 patch of Classic

#

and played 1.12

#

later

#

after a ten year pause

#

they'd still not recognize the game

#

Change HAPPENS no matter what it is you do

#

Being able to trade gear DOESN'T MAKE THE GAME UNRECOGNIZABLE

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Im talking about 1.12 state

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Yes and the changes

#

from 1.12

#

to 1.13

#

which is what's happening now

#

DOn't fundamentally change the game

#

The ONLY difference it does do is force a community to really blacklist people out. They won't trade what they clearly

#

don't need

#

or can't use

#

to someone who can

#

Did you ever think about that?

#

Because you can only ever trade gear that ya know. Is something you can't use

#

or is an objective downgrade from what you have

#

Or if you're in a RDF/LFR. Which btw, isn't in classic

#

So this change

#

is so fucking minimal

#

but you're so blinded

#

you refuse to actually see that

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:10 PM

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It is small change, yas.. But still can have huge inpact for abuse ppl.. Or do u like when u got some loot and half of this LFR ppl abuse you with whisp "do u need" "can i have it" etc.. I just like old loot system..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:11 PM

#

Yet

#

Master Loot

#

HAS THE SAME ABUSE ISSUES

#

I personally

#

because I have a fucking heart

#

hand people things I don't need

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and if they whisper me for something I already traded, I just smack my macro of "Sorry, I already traded it"

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I totally hate when they introduce it in wrath.. Many times whole group NEED things what i like and they just farm it for his frend in group.. Bullshit

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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So then

#

Don't

#

use

#

it

tiny nymph Feb 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I'm pretty sure that if you're bothered by being whispered, you can disable whispers showing in a chat channel.

slim spire Feb 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Idk how asking for something they obviously don't need as gear upgrade counts as abuse 🤔

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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You can also

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Put yourself on DONOTDISTURb

#

that BLOCKS whispers

#

Like all your issues Haze

#

are avoidable

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but you refuse to avoid it

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it's less about blizz being lazy and you being lazy

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I havent problem with leave smth what i dont need, but for that case is there PASS or GREED..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Or maybe

#

you just

#

Don't use LFD

#

and only walk to all the dungeons

#

with your friends

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Or better yet, do what I do

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and only use LFD with friends

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:18 PM

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We talking about retail bo classic? Hm? I dont care about retail u know.. Nameless ultraforged shits and everybody can be snowflake.. Im talking about "retail practics can be terrible in classic"

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:18 PM

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But

#

they aren't

#

There's no LFD, there's no LFR, there's no retail practices

#

except

#

that you cna trade items you don't need

#

to other people

#

and you're stating this is a bad thing

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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If u dont need it, u dont push NEED..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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because "Activision's Bitch" put it into retail and you don't like this feature

#

SO THEN IF EVERYONE USES THAT WHY DO YOU SO STAUNCHLY GO AGAINST SOMTHING YOU'LL NEVER USE OR RUN INTO

#

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

tiny nymph Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Des is overloading monkaGiga

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

Im just going back to Mass Effect

slim spire Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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They could just implement 7.3.5 group loot and he'd be happy probably

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

shit actually makes sense there

slim spire Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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The whole "you can only roll need on stuff viable for your spec"

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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nope

#

somehow

#

that's abusable

#

Guarantee

#

and it's bad

slim spire Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

#

khadgarface

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

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cuz blizz is activisions bitch

#

and put it in retail

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:22 PM

#

....

grizzled juniper Feb 7, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Rekt

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 10:22 PM

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also for the argument "if you dont need,dont push it",

fair karma Feb 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Yall are wild here
Classicers are crazy

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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theres enough meme vids from ninjalooting nerdscreams

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u want more?

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i ninjalooted the legendary bow from sunwell plateau myself

fair karma Feb 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Me? Pass.

hexed finch Feb 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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then i got kicked from the guild

#

worth it

fair karma Feb 7, 2019, 10:23 PM

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I got that fucker three times
On a shaman, a mage and a monk

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I was trying to get the fkin staff

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Nobody see how it can be used by players against another

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Dude if it is that player gets blacklisted ANYFUCKINGWAYS

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:29 PM

#

And what about that report system.. Hm

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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OH GOD WE CAN REPORT SHIT TO THE GMS THE UTTER HORROR WE CAN'T PUT JUSTICE IN OUR OWN HANDS AND CAN FALL TO BAD INFORMATION OR A SLANDER CAMPAIGN

#

GOD FUCKING FORBID

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Cant wait to see happy faces of streamers when they got kicked anytime just for fun some saboteurs..

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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IT DOESN'T HAPPEN NOW

#

WHY WOULD IT HAPPEN THEN

fair karma Feb 7, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Hell, some streamers should get banned but they don't. But that's neither here nor there.

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:32 PM

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^^^^^^

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the only time I have heard of this happening was when Asmongold wanted to prove that their system is automatic and not handled by a person by having his own stream mass report him

fair karma Feb 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Did it work?

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Yes

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it kicked him and muted him

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Ofc.. Same in bg's

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

#

for 24 hours

#

A BG is not large enough to trigger it

#

you need 80 people to report bomb 1 single person for it to trigger like that

#

again

#

you hinge your opinions on misinformation

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Yas.. And what do u can without voice / discord in classic when u NEED comunicate

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

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FOR EIGHTY PEOPLE

#

8

#

0

#

YOU NEED BOTH THE HORDE OF THAT BG AND THE ALLIANCE ADN IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IN 1 BG IN CLASSIC

#

You also NEED TO ACTUALLY BE IN THAT GROUP TO REPORT THEM

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Nope.. I saw different vids ;)

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

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THERE IS NO /REPORT

#

You need to be able to click on them and file the report that way

#

by 80 people

#

to trigger it

#

So if you get that massive group together somehow

#

you would need to then find that person in game and report them

#

and they can just

#

LOG

#

OFF

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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How u think :) i saw just different vids.. And totally dont need 80 ppl.. Or have u some links plz?

oblique folio Feb 7, 2019, 10:38 PM

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You watch the people who do nothing but bitch at blizzard

#

you have the video. It's one of asmongold's from legion. about 2 years ago.

bright root Feb 7, 2019, 10:58 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/an0dxc/blizzard_has_dropped_the_ball_on_the_new_report/

r/wow - Blizzard has dropped the ball on the new report system and...

4,129 votes and 707 comments so far on Reddit

green folio Feb 8, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Des you get very mad

silent marlin Feb 8, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Yeah, it's their shtick.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 9:27 AM

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oooo what have i done 😂 the discussion still rages on after i left. really sorry...(not really). people should just chill and see what happens at release. these things will be tested ingame first day... if it goes bad blizz will know. for the time being.. lets just agree to disagree on what classics good and bad parts are.

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yeah those videos from madseasons got me reading my old magazines and really just wanted more... not to start the next world nerd war of classic 2019.

green folio Feb 8, 2019, 9:31 AM

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It’s not your fault Alex, this discord is filled with both sides of the argument both as toxic as each other

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 10:20 AM

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thats why i enjoy reading it... always entertaining. but really im not a troll...😂

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 11:01 AM

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lol @oblique folio how do you know its 80 needed reports from both factions to mute someone... these are internal tool numbers... are you watcherdev or j allen brack in disguise fighting one nerd on the internet at a time?!?!? :)) no, but seriously... its not really that often happening in retail cuz its not really that competitive. in classic aka vanilla if you want rank 14 and someone hates you... after the 3-4 months of non stop grinding to it and wants to f your life they just mass report auto ban you and if you get the full 30 days ban you will never get that rank cuz you will most likely be back at rank 10 or something like that cuz of rank decay. still until it actually happens we wont know for sure if its a big deal... so i'll give you that. o well... we will try it and see(at least the ones that will play it and get that far)

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 11:50 AM

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First off, asmon was testing it out to see how many reports he needed to teigger the instant Kick

#

And all it did was mute him.

#

It never banned him

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Because there is no auto-ban system

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He got a full raid group in his garrison to do it and it trigger a 24 hour mute with a kick from the game.

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40 people.

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@idle kite

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 11:58 AM

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i see...

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but the savix ban?!?! what was that about... i think he got banned from reports similarly for 30 days. sure a gm confirmed it after savix combated it, but didnt it start in the same way?. o well... it is what it is. we will see what happens

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i'll def see it.. will probably drop 2-3 years of sub money day one when classic drops(really wonder if i can stack buy more 6 months subs by buying one and unsubscribing then buying another one again)... so i will most likely hear or speak to people who had it happen to them, if it ever does happen.

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:07 PM

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And you and Haze forget one major contender in all of this.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:07 PM

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i'll prob try it with 1 month subs when i resub to play the last raid when lfr version is released and play the ally story line... only did the horde

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:07 PM

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One that can actually force players to stop abusing a system at a moments notice

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:07 PM

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what is that?

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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You really don't know who can step in when the players are being assholes and stop them from being such? =/

hexed finch Feb 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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resubbing to play just the lfr

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cmon dude

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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hey.. im an lfr hero.. dont judge 😄

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you mean the gms?

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Nope.

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Though you're close

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:09 PM

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no idea then... if you mean fellow players... there will always be trolls no matter how many you blacklist or ban

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Blizzard themselves.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:10 PM

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isnt blizz reprezented by the gms?

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Once their support team fets wind that players are abusing something to get players unrightfully banned

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:10 PM

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aaa sure.. that is true

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but take that rank 14 ex i said earlier

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Do you not think the devs will step in and remove it or simply tighten it?

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Being banned doesnt stop you from contacting customer support to challenge it.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:11 PM

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you will already be at least 1 month delay by the time a gm confirms that you were wrongfully banned

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:11 PM

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It diesnt take anywhere near that long.

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Doesnt*

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:11 PM

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making the rank 14 grind imposible.. one will most likely quit altogheter if that happens

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ok i missspoke i guess

hexed finch Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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contacting a gm actually takes from 1 hour to 24 hrs

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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When I was unrightfully banned it took 13 hours to get a reply and challenge on it.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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if will prob take 3 to 7 days to confirm your wrongfull ban

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Nope

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Still astronomically longer than it actually takes

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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but by that time you are already behind 3 weeks because of rank decay

hexed finch Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

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"it takes less than a day" --> "you're already 3 weeks behind"

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murloc

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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it def does not take less then a day

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be real...

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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It does tho

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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usually it takes 3 to 5 hours to get a gm respons in a ticket

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and then they need to check logs

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and then confirm them

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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Nope

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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and then report back

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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Thats not how it works

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Ive actually gone through it

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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how does it work then

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?

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:14 PM

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You lut in your ticket and the gms take around 24hrs normally to contact you about it and get more information.

hexed finch Feb 8, 2019, 12:15 PM

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how did you get banned in the first place

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XD

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:15 PM

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When that happens you'll get a responce from them and you'll wait ankther 12-24 hours and they'll either report back to you with the unvan or keep it. In ticket form.

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Or yiu can do what I do

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And do it all in ten minutes via live chat

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But I document a lot of what I do with dates and timestamps so they just have to hit that search function to find out where my stuff is in their DB.

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

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and @hexed finch not sure if you know how brutal the ranking system is(aka stupidly bad it is, yeah i can admit it was bad and still will be come classic, but alot of people will still try to do it) and how hard it is to get from rank 13 to 14 with 100% always 20% decay per week on rating points and honor. you actually need to have so much rating that you have from 13 to 14 + the 20% you lost from decay even though you cant actually make that much honor per week, thus you need to break it into a few weeks cuz so if you skip one week you need to put in 2 weeks to recover. its a really bad system... but thats how it works.

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so what das is saying is it takes at least 24 hours + another 12-24 hours after that + a few mins to revers the ban... its not too far off of what i said... almost 3 days.

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:20 PM

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2 days.

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A frand total

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Of 2 days

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Thats a full 3 days less than you 5-7 days

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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i said almost 3 :D.. but ok

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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=/

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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i said 3 to 7 days if you check again

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so yeah not 7.. but 3

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or 2... whatever

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well we will see... it could be good it could be bad.. until we test it we cant know for sure

idle kite Feb 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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btw... found some old magazines with wow articles up to wrath... if anyone is interested i can link

silent willow Feb 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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brightpaw happy

faint tapir Feb 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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happy

bright root Feb 8, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Im still standing behind fact it ISNT 80 or 40..jusr few reports is enough..

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 7:34 PM

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If it were "just a few" don't you think it'd be happening more often?

bright root Feb 8, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Did u see that redit post? U rly think he colect 80 ppl online in gild for that mute?

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 7:35 PM

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For the automatic thing to trigger?

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yes

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You need a large amount of reports within a certain time frame to trigger the automatic kick into a mute or even a ban.

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BUt ofc you take your information from a man who cares that they reduced a fictional womans tits in a digital card game as he claims China is behind it despite the fact that if it were a regional issue they would change it for that particular region.

bright root Feb 8, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Thats two another things..
And that article what im talking about isnt from Heels...

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Same as how they disconected enemy healer.. (also Link in that reddit what i post)

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Theyr team HAVENT 80ppl ;)

oblique folio Feb 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5xa7Poa80o This is your proof btw

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From the reddit post

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also the tweets are from...six months ago

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Asmongolds video

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is from 2 years ago

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In which, again.

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You have to SELECT THE PLAYER

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AND REPORT THEM IN THAT WAY

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If you NEVER FIND THE PLAYER

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YOU CAN'T MASS REPORT THEM LIKE THIS

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I told you this yesterday

coral pasture Feb 8, 2019, 8:50 PM

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i found a chain of boomkins killing everything at a spot in pandaria, walking in set paths. It was very inconvenient for me since i wad trying to get the operation: shieldwall gryphons and had to do a mission there involving the mobs they were 1-shot moonfiring at range limit and looting

hexed finch Feb 9, 2019, 12:03 AM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=290177&webhook/thottbot-visual-theme-now-live-on-classic-wowhead-site

Wowhead

Thottbot Visual Theme Now Live on Classic Wowhead Site

We're very proud to announce that the Thottbot visual theme is now live on the Classic Wowhead site! Now you can make Classic Wowhead look just like Thottbot. Enjoy the nostalgia and blinding whiteness!

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just to up the nostalgia

grizzled juniper Feb 9, 2019, 12:13 AM

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man

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we complain about no content

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i didn't know the patch 1.10 only added weather

idle kite Feb 9, 2019, 6:45 AM

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it had way more... like priest revamp, new ui elements, new flight paths, balance passes for all classes, 0.5 armor tier meaning a huge q line for dungeon set 2 armor, etc...

broken olive Feb 9, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Which was the one which was adding the old voice chat? The one that was real bad...

green folio Feb 9, 2019, 11:32 PM

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That was in BC

maiden river Feb 9, 2019, 11:55 PM

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wait so

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when will classic launch ?

oblique folio Feb 10, 2019, 12:01 AM

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When it's ready

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 1:11 AM

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summer... maybe july 16th. but dont tell anyone else i told you 😬 👌 😁

craggy hull Feb 10, 2019, 9:46 AM

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@idle kite How can that be true tho thonk 😂

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 9:47 AM

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😂

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some obscure easter egg from the classic panel at blizzcon.. search reddit classic and that date and see

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prob nothing but fun to speculate

tame forge Feb 10, 2019, 2:33 PM

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They did say summer

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they said it on blizzcon so it's not exactly a secret

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could be delayed, of course

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

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they said summon not a specific date...thats the possible easter egg

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but i feel like it would be too soon in july... would be awesome... but

oblique folio Feb 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

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What about them saying Summer is an easter egg

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

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lol

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i just said its not the summer thing but the specific date

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search the resdit post

oblique folio Feb 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Your sentence structure needs work then.

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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it will explain

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lol..it was missing a , nothing wrong with the structure

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but ok... was not clear

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/9u755q/classic_release_date_july_16th_2019/#ampf=undefined

r/classicwow - Classic Release date: July 16th, 2019

668 votes and 153 comments so far on Reddit

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its from 2 picturea they posted in thr panel

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really unrealisticaly stretching the possibility of it... but still fun if its real

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the team seems like the type to play these kind of old school easter egg games

grizzled juniper Feb 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Gnomes are mobile

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Does it mean

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Mobile warcraft

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

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damn straight... confirmed

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playing with a bluetooth keyboard... no problem

oblique folio Feb 10, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Playing with a physical Keyboard

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khadgarface

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📎 Best-Laser-Keyboards-revies-1078x516.jpg

idle kite Feb 10, 2019, 3:08 PM

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lol thats awesome... the tactile feedback feel must be out of this world.

hexed finch Feb 10, 2019, 3:22 PM

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i heard that item was more or less a semiflop

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because the recognition for pressing the keys is all over the place

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and more things that i cant really remember

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there was a review of that thing too

low wedge Feb 10, 2019, 3:50 PM

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for classic wow

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you need classic pc

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imma dust off my CRT monitor and intel pentium 4

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no rgb

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just plain old classic with classic

hexed finch Feb 10, 2019, 3:51 PM

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there's actually 1 of the graphics settings called "classic" that caps your pc's power to what the pcs at the time were

grizzled juniper Feb 10, 2019, 3:51 PM

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...lol

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I can imagine a super pc

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 9:42 AM

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id get like 300 fps 😮

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 11:19 AM

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the thing is... it will run exactly as it did when 7.3.5 was out... cuz thats the engine.

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good thing that version is optimised for low power interegrated graphics ultrabooks... need to get that wow fix even when away from home

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 11:40 AM

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i was told they might allow the updated graphics along with many other features we have today

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like the auto loot and how 1 corpse has all the loot of the nearby mobs etc little things like that

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AND THE BLIZ STORE of course

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:12 PM

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There is 0 chance of that happening @hearty stratus

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:13 PM

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@oblique folio but they already said its happening?

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:13 PM

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#nochanges

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:13 PM

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its on the interviews

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they arent going with the core vanilla patch theyre leaning towards pre-patch of BC just without the blood elf race because it has the least amount of bugs without going in and changing everything all over again

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:15 PM

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There was no store and updated graphics in that patch

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:15 PM

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theyre going to continue from that patch so they dont have to change the same things again and then i assume add it in while theyre changing the other crap

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:16 PM

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The fans will rage

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:16 PM

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dont you guys watch the blizzard interviews for blizcon

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podcasts? anything? lol

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:16 PM

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Nah, I just read wowhead

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:18 PM

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then i guess youll see it when you see it but know for a fact the store will be there cause they want teh monies

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you shouldve expected that man lol

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:19 PM

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They never said they'd add the store in the interviews, they did say they'd use 1.13 or something but never said anything bout the store

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But they are adding a progression in raids, naxx won't be unlocked at the start

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:19 PM

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well i guess youll be able to rage when it happens cause its gonna happen

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:20 PM

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You misunderstand what they mean by them not going with the core of vanilla

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They cant go with patch 1.12. They wouldnt be able to slap the anti-cheating software or have the battle.net functionality on such old software

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So what theyre doing instead is making patch 1.13, it'll have all of the raw content 1.12 did but exist emulated on the Legion client.

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I did not misunderstand what they said.. theyre adding battle.net the bliz store auto loot and loot nearby corpses along with a slew of other features implimented and may even add the old and the new graphics with an option to change between the two model sets

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Theyve already confirmed in their watercooler interview that they will not be adding in the QoL changes current WoW has.

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No they arent

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:22 PM

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im not gonna debate it with you man i literally watched them talk about this shit on tv lol

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:22 PM

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On what TV? As the only places theyve talked about it is blizzcon

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:22 PM

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The store would make no sense

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Or their watercooler dev posts

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And in neither section did they ever confirm they were, hell they flat out denied they were.

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Look at the demo as an example of how it's going to work

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

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And they confirmed that the demo still had underlying systems that wouldnt appear on the launch of classic

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Like /lfr

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Such as the empty LFR/LFD windows.

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

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you guys are gonna be in for one hell of a wake up call when you see the patch note release then lol

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:25 PM

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21881587/dev-watercooler-world-of-warcraft-classic

World of Warcraft

Dev Watercooler: World of Warcraft Classic - WoW

Take a look behind the scenes as the World of Warcraft Classic team give us an update on how they are recreating WoW history. In this Dev Watercooler, the team share core decisions, current thinking, and some of the technical challenges and solutions they’re working on.

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:25 PM

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you should be following the classic forums on the battle.net website along with the dev podcasts and interviews

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:25 PM

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You should link

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Your sources

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Like Im doing

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:25 PM

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just go to the classic wow forums ...?

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i cant go on the warcraft website on the work computer anyway they got this shit restricted.. cant even go on twitch

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:26 PM

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22548005/dev-watercooler-inside-the-world-of-warcraft-classic-blizzcon-demo

World of Warcraft

Dev Watercooler: Inside the World of Warcraft Classic BlizzCon Dem...

Get a sneak preview of what BlizzCon attendees and Virtual Ticket holders can expect from the upcoming World of Warcraft Classic demo we’re crafting for the convention.

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:27 PM

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but if you go to the classic forums you can find the information there

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Mhmm. Nothing about the store in either id their watercooler posts

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Forums😬

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:28 PM

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youre trying your hardest to disprove me but damn dude.. if you dont believe its there then dont believe its gonna be there.. lol

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you really think theyre going to just lt you prance around without getting you to buy shit? i mean the subs count for both games.. it only takes alitle common sense to know the store will be there regardless of what you want

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its activision

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Im asking for proof.

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You refuse to hand it to me. Im currently going through each post of the classic forums, nothing.

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Therea discussions and questions about them adding it but nothing from a blue hard stating that yes they are

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:30 PM

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i havent refused to give it to you i just told you i cant on this computer 0.o why dont you just google it

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Clearly I didnt just tell you Im on the forums and do not see it anywhere

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You also claimed something about them saying it at blizzcon?

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Would it have been during their Classic panel with asmongoldand the rest?

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:32 PM

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im not gonna fight this ill let you try to win your internet battle and just find out for yourself when it happens.. lol

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i feel like anything i say to you youre defensive and want to argue like a little kid

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Why then come in here claiming that blizzard has already told us at blizzcon and other podcasts that they're adding in the QoL changes from Classic

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but refuse to actually give us an actual source we can look up?

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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its in the fucking interview videos man.. god damn watch them yourself.. i dont know what else to tell you

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youre like a retarded kid begging for toys in the store lol

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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WHICH ONE

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I asked you for a specific one

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who did the interview

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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you didnt ask any of that shit that i seen

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its one of the blizcon videos man

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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[7:32 AM] Des: Would it have been during their Classic panel with asmongoldand the rest?

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:35 PM

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you need to calm the fuck down lol

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:35 PM

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I keep asking for proof and sources and all you give me is generic answers to it.

hearty stratus Feb 11, 2019, 12:36 PM

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youre so defensive and overreactive about this shit.. at this point anything is possible they can add abunch of giant dicks walking around if they wanted to

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it doesnt matter what the hell you want its what they want >.>

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jesus christ man i am so done with this chat.. lol

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:37 PM

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I'm not

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I'm asking for your proof

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAKvIx6eQpA Literally

YouTube

Esfand

BlizzCon WoW Classic Dev Interview w/ ClassiCast

We got the opportunity to have a press conference type of interview with with Brian Birmingham the lead for WoW Classic and John Hight the new Executive Prod...

▶ Play video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhKkP8LryYM all the interviews

YouTube

AzAMOuS

Restoring History: Creating WoW Classic (BlizzCon Classic Panel)

Subscribe for more classic content in the future. WC3 Reforged Panel is also on my channel! #wowclassic #classicwow #blizzcon2018

▶ Play video

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do not supporta thing you've said

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:38 PM

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^

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:38 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/everything-we-definitively-know-about-classic/25299

World of Warcraft Forums

***EVERYTHING We Definitively Know about Classic***

Hey all - I wanted to put together a mega-thread that will put the majority of the CONFIRMED information into a single place to both help people new to the board, as well as dispel any fake rumors or information. I will be attempting to put in links for citation, but it will...

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 12:39 PM

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There would have been an uproar if something like that was announced

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:41 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/surprised-we-have-not-had-any-news/94499/93 This one had some funny banter with Ythisens

World of Warcraft Forums

Surprised we have not had any news

they definitely need it, specially with purist putting their heads on the chopping block because of loot trading.

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Oh. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/automated-bans-will-slowly-destroy-classic/65189/29 @bright root Found a thread on the forums relevant to your concerns about the reporting issues

World of Warcraft Forums

Automated Bans will slowly destroy Classic

I’ll update my OP since there are many players here who haven’t actually played HOTS and dont know that a silence is a ban from ranked play.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 12:55 PM

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the only thing the might be on the ingame store(if they ever add it... all things point to not adding it cuz it did not exist back then) is realm transfers and very little possibility in old vanilla pets like collectors edition ones

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but even that is not confirmed or denied by the devs

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they just said they will stick with vanilla things and try not to modify anything

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the only qol change they 100% mentioned was the in game mail being able to loot faster

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Indeed. If the classic demo is anything to go by, they're doing a damn good job of it.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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aka multiple

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anything else is just speculation and not official

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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So you'll be able to open your mail faster? Wait the mail opening was slower?

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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for once me and des are agreeing

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its a miracle

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party time

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I'll agree with people on objective fact.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

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meaning you dont need to click on each one or send one by one

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you know send multiples

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Ah.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@hearty stratus really wish you get back to us with some proof... the only thing is 100% from what you said and known is the graphics pluses and the classic style button cuz its a 7.3.5 client, thus it by default has more options even with the try to restrict it... but anything else, really would like you to give us some links to the forum posts or interviews you say that confirm these changes you mention. no one is ragging... just don't know where you got this info.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 1:47 PM

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another thing that is wrong in what you said is that they will be using the prepatch from tbc aka 2.0.1. no way they are using that(why would they talk so much about 1.12.1 patch to not use it as a base thing to emulate.. even if they call the classic version 1.13)... that would be crazy, so many changes to the talents and professions and debuff limit and all else. think palas were op in vanilla with not dieing cuz of all the self preservation abilities... now give them an on demand damage spell to smash your face besides that, in a vanilla ecosystem. plus they never said they would make tbc or wrath to support that - not wanting to do it again - when they release those. they said they are not working on a tbc version and have no plans for it in the near future... just focusing on vanilla and they will see how that goes and maybe after that they will bring up that subject.

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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happy wow europe release date!!! AEU 🎉 🎊

maiden river Feb 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Huh?

sullen quail Feb 11, 2019, 3:54 PM

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wow originally released today in 2005 in Europe

trim ocean Feb 11, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Happy WoW EU release day!

hexed finch Feb 11, 2019, 6:14 PM

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🤔

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Surprising that no one decided to celebrate the NA release.

hexed finch Feb 11, 2019, 6:17 PM

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thats because NA lost the worldfirst race

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so they arent in the spotlight

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atm

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🤔 just my theory

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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lol

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they got world 3rd though...

fair karma Feb 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Second

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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well method killed it twice before limit... so.. 😬

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jk

fair karma Feb 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Second guild for the irritating pedants, then.

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 6:32 PM

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even I am not that pedantic in that situation

low wedge Feb 11, 2019, 7:42 PM

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why would anyone celebrate NA release

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i remember waiting 9 hours in line

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to buy TBC and then 6 hours for WotLK

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good old days

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Because without the NA release, EU would never have gotten it?

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 8:08 PM

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sure.. ill give you that. blizz didnt even think eu was a viable market place. good thing they gave it a chance.

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Just seems weird to me that we all of a sudden are celebrating EU's release date but completely skipped over NA's release date. Considering NA was the more important one

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and that we're suddenly doing the celebration of the release date when that hasn't been a thing

idle kite Feb 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

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it was mentioned on warcrafts instagram account... probably forgot to metion it on na date. not a big deal

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they posted the install window and asked for best memories... i said taking a day off to install all the 4 discs and updates and after being careful not to delete it cuz it will take another day to reinstall 😂 the good old times

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when the wow client took 10% of my whole hdd

green folio Feb 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Nobody is celebrating the NA release date because yesterday was the EU one. So nobody is going to? Also we do celebrate the NA one. We get a whole in game event

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Also Evilwendie was a very entertaining read

oblique folio Feb 11, 2019, 8:56 PM

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What I mean is

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Why didn't anyone celebrate NA's

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when it came around

green folio Feb 11, 2019, 8:58 PM

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We had an ingame event iirc happens in the last few weeks of November?

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If that is the case that is technically celebrating the NA release

proud canyon Feb 11, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yeah, the anniversary event with the vanilla world bosses and such

spark lodge Feb 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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that's because america #1

proud canyon Feb 12, 2019, 12:05 AM

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even though limit was like #3

oblique folio Feb 12, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Limit wasnumber 2

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Limit wasthe secondguild to kill Jaina

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Method just killed her twice, but as 1 guild

fair karma Feb 12, 2019, 12:25 AM

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We can go blue countering the joke but people are still going to spout it because they think they're clever

green folio Feb 12, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Amercians are funny creatures

coral pasture Feb 12, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Americans are just plain weird

proud canyon Feb 12, 2019, 5:58 AM

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We are

maiden river Feb 12, 2019, 8:40 PM

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People that wait in line to buy games are idiots. I remember when Burning Crusade launched. I waited untill more then an hour past the store sales time then drove to the store AFTER all of the tards left and bought a copy. They had half a box left (like 30 copies left).

green folio Feb 13, 2019, 8:23 AM

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You're a super cool person

undone sphinx Feb 13, 2019, 8:52 AM

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i mean why wouldnt you wait in line so get something you like, over here where i live a a new dunkin donuts opened and the first 100 people got a pass to get 6 donuts for free weekly for a year

idle kite Feb 13, 2019, 8:56 AM

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people need to understand the dif between launchs and just buying something... launches are events.. thats why you wait in line... to get exited and talk to others in line about your similar likes

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why would you go on the launch day to buy something if you dont want to deal with queues? just wait a few days

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but those things are kinda done and gone these days with everything online

undone sphinx Feb 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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i mean i wanted to buy a BfA CE box a bit after the xpac launched online but it was sold out and they did no refills

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feelsbad

rigid lotus Feb 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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They just don't make raid trash like they used to these days... https://youtu.be/VX2IiwF1ixg

YouTube

kumikey

WoW - Naxxramas - TrashMob too hard

This happened when you didn't use your burst or just hadn't enough damage in Naxxramas 40. This Video is not my creation! I downloaded it in 2006 from http:/...

▶ Play video

idle kite Feb 18, 2019, 1:18 PM

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how can that be? what keeps healing it?

idle kite Feb 18, 2019, 3:07 PM

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maybe some crazy leach mechanic?!?!?

unborn hearth Feb 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

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can someone tell me if the dmg of the lightforged dead racial is noticeable in pvp ?

oblique folio Feb 18, 2019, 8:19 PM

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wanna repeat that question @unborn hearth ?

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there is no lightforged dead.

unborn hearth Feb 18, 2019, 8:20 PM

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lightforged dranei racial: called lights reckoning or something i dont play on english

oblique folio Feb 18, 2019, 8:20 PM

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It's noticable in their one shot combos so.

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I'd say yes

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though this should get discussed in #retail-wow

unborn hearth Feb 18, 2019, 8:21 PM

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on which classes?

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i was thinking about some fun kamikaze build nothing serious

grand citrus Feb 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

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@unborn hearth this isn't an issue for #classic-wow, take it to #retail-wow

oblique folio Feb 18, 2019, 11:42 PM

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he already did

grand citrus Feb 18, 2019, 11:50 PM

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oh

rigid lotus Feb 19, 2019, 12:01 AM

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@idle kite an ability called Stoneform - Casts it at 30% health, 6 sec cast, grants buff that makes it immune and heal to full over 6 seconds.

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 12:05 AM

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So people just don't interrupt and that makes trash packs harder?

rigid lotus Feb 19, 2019, 12:09 AM

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It cannot be interrupted. That mob was a DPS check/burn.

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Every other spawn of those pulls in twos and has a second ability called Acid Volley - hits entire raid, ignores los, 200 dmg every 3 sec for 24 sec, stacks indefinitely. They would have been dead at the 1 minute mark if this were one of the later gargoyle pulls.

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https://classic.wowhead.com/npc=16168/stoneskin-gargoyle

Wowhead

Stoneskin Gargoyle

Stoneskin Gargoyle is an Elite NPC that can be found in Naxxramas. The location of this NPC is unknown. In the NPCs category. Added in Classic World of Warcraft.

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Why is that a good thing?

trim ocean Feb 19, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Doing 30% of max health damage in less than 6 secs and killing both of them in less than a minute was the required standard to complete the raid - raids were for the best players. When you managed it - that was a good thing.

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Except that so few people actually got to experience and see it. Is gatekeeping really what makes things good and a challenge?

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Because people wanna be able to flex on other people over pixels
Nothing bonds a community more than getting patronized by people like that

rigid lotus Feb 19, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Anyone that was attuned could see this trash mob, and maybe experience it with trash runs (not so common back then and you couldn't get out of vanilla naxx w/o hearth or port). The point of it was to make sure that your raid was capable of putting out the numbers required to even be there. Just like Patchwerk.

A lot more people will get a chance to see it in Classic since Naxx won't have an end-date for progression.

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 1:26 PM

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But at what point is something like this just an annoyance that serves nothing or a true gate of raid "skill"? Back then a lot less information existed about the game while today, this does exist in today's raiding you can just react to it in a much fairer way. Either with CC ahead of the pull or by simply locking the mob until it's dead.

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:17 PM

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if you play classic you will see a lot of players who dont know that... and thus the nubs and pros devide will be apon us again... until they learn it as well.

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thinking that only people that already played it will play it is obtuse...

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everyone will most def not know everything about the game... and most def people will strugle

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that will make them chat and try to find out how to get better

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and that will make these so called gated mobs killable by all eventually cuz wr dont have tbc( at least not for sure) to cut everyones progresion short

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people like being challanged... its a fact

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finding solutions though will take eachs eforts to overcome... thus making for a fun comunity... who will be on top... who does not want to bother

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and eventually everyone will find thier spot

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some of these "gates" have some social points behind them... just let it go its own way and we will see if it evolves in something expected or just a bust(history sais it wont bust)

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:31 PM

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But not entirely? Back then it was because knowledge was actually hard to come by. Now it's by choice to be ignorant.

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Like, in terms of group raiding, talking IS a must unless designed otherwise. (See LFR) and if you join random pugs where everyone is assumed to already know, then yes you won't hear much talking until the wipe happens.

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:33 PM

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that is true... but ignorance is rampant... you'd be surprised how bad it is 😁

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:34 PM

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I don't think Des would be that surprised, Alex.

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:35 PM

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take a big recent ex... you knoe asmangold right?... he tried to play thr witcher... did not pay attention to the tutorial then rages cuz he is bad at it... what do you call that 😁

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and he is a gamer

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that then the average player

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:35 PM

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[Insert joke about men refusing to read instructions]

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:35 PM

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its even worse

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hey hey hey... im a man and i read the witcher tutorial

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I mean.

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I call taht streamerism

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Where a streamer purposefully gets bad at a game for entertaining the stream

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:37 PM

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If I ever streamed, personally, I think I'd prefer to not look like a total tool in front of thousands but that's just me

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:37 PM

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why arent u streaming already

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🤔

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:37 PM

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The people want you to be a tool so that they can call you a tool and laugh at you.

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that's the whole point of a streaming persona

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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That shit would only spike my anxiety and other bad shit, no thanks

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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not sure thats what he was doing cuz he is kinda desperate to play something to keep his streams going since he started hating current wow... prob money truck is not backing into his drive way as it used to

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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and if you aren't a tool, you're a shill.

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that's how the streaming platform that is Twitch works

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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there's only 2 types of streaming games,you're either comically bad,or really good

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Streamers like Faker, professional League player, are on the god-like good status. So people watch his stream to see him fuckin rip into whatever game he plays

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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maybe... still i think it kinda makes my point

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Not entirely. :p When someone is comically bad at something and they just refuse to get better by....dunno. Hitting hte start menu and looking at their controls

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they're pretty clearly doing it to just entertain

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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people are always bad when starting somrthing new

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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Not really.

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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you can have most of your skills carry over from similar games

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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^

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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i remember lvling up to lvl 33 in vendor whites

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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Did you play any other MMO before WoW though?

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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nope

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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and even if you're new,most ppl will not be comically bad when starting a totally new game

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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That's why

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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There you go

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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You had no skill base to call from

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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i see... good point. but i did play rpgs before

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Where-as for Witcher, Asmongold has played a shit ton of RPGs. So he should understand the basics of attacking, getting gear and healing.

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But clearly his stream showed otherwise. Why is that? 🤔

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:42 PM

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problem with witcher 3,he put the game on very hard,and then totally ignored the signs mechanics

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which are basically the shield/oarry equivalent

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of other games

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and his track record is "get big 2hand sword,facetank everything until it dies"

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:42 PM

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So he ignored the magic part of a heavy magic fantasy game.

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Cmon now

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:42 PM

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and he ragequit,when he died many many times

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to a miniboss that required the use of one of the signs

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to even be attackable

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:43 PM

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that's legit just on him then cuz

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even if you ignore hte tutorial

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Geralt literally says what sign to use

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that's how you know he did it on purpose

hexed finch Feb 19, 2019, 3:44 PM

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even in bloodborne,he totally ignores the 80% of the game mechanics (guns)

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and just goes with 2handed weapons all the time

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xd

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:48 PM

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but my point was that people skip learning the essentials until they are forced to... you are actually describing that 😄

maiden river Feb 19, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Asmon skips the tutorials and plays on hardest on his first try, he's an idiot. But this should'nt be in classic.

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Which in all honesty, is why these things won't be the "great and glorious" gates you all are making them out to be

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:49 PM

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sure streaming thing might be an exception (just let me have this one.. i like to be right 😄 )

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:49 PM

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the moment wipe 1 happens, people will either look it up

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understand what killed them and retarget

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or keep at it until they understand it

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:50 PM

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or talk to each other.. which makes a comunity thrive

oblique folio Feb 19, 2019, 3:50 PM

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They already talk to each other

idle kite Feb 19, 2019, 3:50 PM

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:))

fair karma Feb 19, 2019, 3:50 PM

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No one is going to just let you be right in a discussion like this