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spark lodge Oct 30, 2018, 5:40 PM

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i can't find a solid answer on this - will the demo only be available this weekend?

oblique folio Oct 30, 2018, 5:47 PM

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It's available during blizzcon

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Blizzcon is only this weekend

spark lodge Oct 30, 2018, 5:57 PM

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well, that's shitty.

solemn brook Oct 30, 2018, 5:57 PM

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🤦

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des

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the demo extends a bit after blizzcon too

oblique folio Oct 30, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Proof?

solemn brook Oct 30, 2018, 5:58 PM

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22551243/bring-home-the-blizzcon-wow-classic-demo-with-the-virtual-ticket

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oblique folio Oct 30, 2018, 5:58 PM

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For all the sources I see say "It runs for the entirety of blizzcon"

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Ah ok. Good.

grizzled juniper Oct 30, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Inb4 April 2019 is release date

broken olive Oct 30, 2018, 7:14 PM

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April 1st? 😉

inland oasis Oct 31, 2018, 2:22 AM

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does anyone know if you have to have an active account to play the demo?

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Just like with the ptr, no. You dont need an active account

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They are separate as far as we're aware

inland oasis Oct 31, 2018, 9:13 AM

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awesome

reef pecan Oct 31, 2018, 12:20 PM

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out of everything. i wonder if the debuff limit remains, and how that will change raids

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Nothing from retails mechanics will hit classic.

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:05 PM

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And what about itemization progress? :o

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Cuz lot of items was changed/buffed true patches .. For example scholo necklace what is better than one from Ragg..

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:07 PM

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thats one question we hope to be answer at blizzcon

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Uh. Guys. The patch is at 1.12 for content purposes.

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A lot of it is really selfexplanitory

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:13 PM

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its not at 1.13 ? so we can expect some changes ?

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:15 PM

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It is at 1.13, which is done because it would co flict with the actual 1.12 that exists.

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Its not a separate "client" its still run off of the current game.

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As blizz said 8n their watercooler, they are not at all looking to change the content or gameplay of classic. All changes are either for battle.net support, additional graphical support for the modern age(so far no HD models) and anticheating software.

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:31 PM

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But if they give us JUST 1.12 itemization and some time line opening instances, still it devalue early content..

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:33 PM

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They say it was 1.12 content

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:33 PM

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So it will be rigged

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i strongely hope not

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Dude

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What the fuck honestly

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It's not a new game

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It's your 2018+compatible Classic WoW

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They cant, and shouldnt add new content

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Look at TipsOut video he explains it better than me

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:35 PM

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There isnt going to be new content

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Period

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:35 PM

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i am not talking about new content im talking about items that are stronger in dungeons than in MC

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:35 PM

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It's going to be the same

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Thats literally how it was in vanilla

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Vanilla was known for not having an "ilvl" balance so sometimes a green with some extra stats was better than some gear

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:36 PM

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You cant be mad at them for giving you vanilla

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:37 PM

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it was not at first

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if all raids came out at first its ok

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:37 PM

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What did tou

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Have in 1.12?

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You had all raids

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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I dont know some screenshots shows that there is no ziggourat of naxxrammas

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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I expect them gating the Scarab Gate

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And you will still have to

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Guess what

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Nido they dont have the open world working

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Attune yourself

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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ok then

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Why do you think the demo is exclusively 2 zo es

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Literally this is what vanilla was. You cannot at all complain about them giving you what you asked for.

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Maybe he didnt know what Vanilla is

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:39 PM

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If there is naxxrammas and all 1.12 content it makes sense

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Vanilla was notorius for wonky as fuck itemization and hard resist requirements that would require you to get boe greens of a certain reisstance.

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:44 PM

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So, u can go to MC and dont need neck, cuz thats from scholo, u dont need anything before nefarian as head cuz u have it from UBRS.. "cooool".. We got oficial "nice looking" payed free server and lot of content will be for nothing..
Yes @buoyant vector im talking also about Tips vid

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About that

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:45 PM

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They never promised a progressive server, you know?

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Sure but it would be great

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Never

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Hype tourself

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Never do that with Blizzard

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Why not let met dream man

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we dream of classic and it comes

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Because you only hurt yourself

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Yes, it came

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But before you could drain of a progressive server

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They already went there and said that it would be 1.12 content

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:47 PM

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i hope they will answer it at blizzcon thats all i can expect now

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Because, as they admit it

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1.12 was the complete version of Vanilla

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So, yes

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You are going to play a pretty full game

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Because that's what everyone wants, right? The best version of WoW

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Rather than these incomplete progressive expansions

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:49 PM

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So, we can expect fkin fast progress and in few months nothing to do?

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:49 PM

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i dont know

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Yes?

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:50 PM

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most people want the journey through all the raids and the fullfillment at the end

thorn canopy Oct 31, 2018, 1:50 PM

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I'm doubtful they'll release all the raids at once

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:50 PM

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What did you as a new player in 1.12?

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And even so Haze

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Wanting a timegate would be hypocritical

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Because

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Retail timegate "Oh nu, they dont have content for us reee"

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Raiding anything in better gear that drops in i stanice is boooo

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:52 PM

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classic timegate "it's for make content relevant again reee"

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It's not better gear

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:52 PM

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yes it is

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:52 PM

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You might choose between survival

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And even so

thorn canopy Oct 31, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I've not heard raids brought up as a critique of timegating in retail, mostly progression such as azerite, reputations being timegated

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:52 PM

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You cant really do all tour dps

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Your*

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Or else you overagro and wipe the raid

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:53 PM

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anyway thats just some stuff its no big deal i hope

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did you see the tips out video ?

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:53 PM

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That's how it was in Vanilla at the last patch so...

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Watch the video man.. U will understand

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Send link?

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Gimme sec, im on phone

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https://youtu.be/gdy_uSbFZEY

YouTube

Tips Out

Why Progressive Itemization is Important in Classic WoW | Classic ...

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buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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If all content is out there will be no subscription in addition but if they do a schedule there will a sort of compensation

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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It's just not going to happen

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 2:07 PM

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=> more trivial raid progress

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 2:08 PM

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And tell me

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Even if they do that

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When you reach the last raid

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What's next?

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 2:08 PM

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nothing

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for what we know

grizzled juniper Oct 31, 2018, 2:09 PM

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What's the point if you are going to be struck in a void point where you are going to be repeating stuff over and over?

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 2:09 PM

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the point is to make all raids relevent and not have dungeons pieces to skip them

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but since the most fun part is the leveling i dont mind too much

bright root Oct 31, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Yee, i'll some raid etc, but my main focus is doing unusual playstyles (bear tank, shaman tank, doing spec what "arent ok and nobody got u inna raid" and twinks :D.. But still.. Main think about itemization is still there

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Wait. According to the pedia, UBRS was released from the very start. MC was a patch later at 1.1. So.

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Wouldn't the dungeon is better than raid gear skip still exist?

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Like even if it were progression

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getting hte neck out of UBRS would invalidate MC

buoyant vector Oct 31, 2018, 2:23 PM

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no cause the skipping stuff come when MC was out

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Well yea as soon as MC was out right

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people realized its gear wasn't as good as UBRS

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so

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they just ground UBRS

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that's how it worked inv anilla, nothing is changed if MC comes out progression style or is just there

cerulean briar Oct 31, 2018, 9:35 PM

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I'd imagine progression cause people will just clear content in like 6 months

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IF they release all raids at once

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However, they should release raids over time to prevent content drought even though we will hit that point eventually.

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 9:43 PM

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I say just release it all at once

cerulean briar Oct 31, 2018, 9:49 PM

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bad idea

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but the question still stands

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what comes after naxx 40?

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Nothing

viscid narwhal Oct 31, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Releasing all at one time is meh

oblique folio Oct 31, 2018, 9:50 PM

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there is no other contentvanilla has and it shouldn't get anythingnew. this is meant for you to emulate Vanilla.

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That means, Naxx is your end game

hexed finch Oct 31, 2018, 9:52 PM

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well,2% of the playerbase got to see vanilla naxx

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so it should last a bit

wild crest Oct 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Hey guys!!! So in anticipation of BlizzCon 2018, we as a community have compiled the 60 biggest Classic WoW questions that we hope to get answers for at BlizzCon. I have posted these questions to a google doc that I plan on updating during the convention the moment I get an answer to any of these questions. Here is a link to the doc below!

Hope you guys are as excited as I am!!! Looking forward to this weekend, and take care!!!

-Tips

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yre21OeanlZ1urSz8HDyGpVobvEIN-YXfvKvQwH4CLk/edit

Google Docs

Classic WoW Questions for BLIZZCON 2018

BLIZZCON 2018 CLASSIC WOW QUESTIONS BY: TIPS OUT When will Classic WoW officially release? When will a Classic WoW alpha/beta take place? How will we purchase Classic WoW? Will there be a subscription? Will there be a collector’s edition? Will there be a cash shop in ...

grand citrus Nov 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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I just realised

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Since Naxx will probably be released later

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people can unironically spam naxx out pog in trade

undone estuary Nov 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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I wonder if we'll be able to use that sewer rat flute

reef zephyr Nov 1, 2018, 11:37 AM

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did blizzard say anything about allowing addons on classic?

oblique folio Nov 1, 2018, 11:39 AM

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They allowed addons in Vanilla

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Why wouldn't they in classic?

reef zephyr Nov 1, 2018, 11:40 AM

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well it is more like a test server question and a wonder how the combatlog and api level will end up

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although i hardly believe that sendaddonmessage won't be available. Saves a lot of whisperfilters 😉

cerulean briar Nov 1, 2018, 9:08 PM

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well i mean reading the quest log

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you can do quests if you read the quest log but i can undertsand raid addons

oblique folio Nov 1, 2018, 9:10 PM

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but that's why it was so hard and today is so easy /s @azure salmon

broken olive Nov 1, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Just use Thottbot!

cerulean briar Nov 1, 2018, 9:18 PM

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WoWhead classic hype

undone estuary Nov 1, 2018, 10:03 PM

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wow classic? I'm gonna need to be social again

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😄

oblique folio Nov 1, 2018, 10:05 PM

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I have to be socialto get intoa good raiding guild

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your joke makes nosense

undone estuary Nov 1, 2018, 10:05 PM

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okedoke

viscid narwhal Nov 1, 2018, 10:06 PM

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ɪ'm just in a good with me and a family member.

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No socialization needed

oblique folio Nov 1, 2018, 10:11 PM

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absolutely not

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cuz blizz didn't make themassholes

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they just became assholes due to the rest of the world

undone estuary Nov 1, 2018, 10:12 PM

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"give a little credit to our public schools" -Fry from Futurama

cerulean briar Nov 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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omg i love that show so much

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"Come Bender, you'll like being dead."

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"That's what they said about being alive!"

prime sphinx Nov 1, 2018, 11:45 PM

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anybody got good tallent build for prot warrior?

maiden river Nov 2, 2018, 1:03 AM

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how long is the demo available for play?

grizzled juniper Nov 2, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Until Nov 8

maiden river Nov 2, 2018, 1:06 AM

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ty

cerulean briar Nov 2, 2018, 2:09 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Gankerthorn vale

cosmic zenith Nov 2, 2018, 3:03 AM

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think what if your a rouge

cerulean briar Nov 2, 2018, 3:10 AM

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90% of your server will be composed of rogues who rolled their class to be cheap 😉

cosmic zenith Nov 2, 2018, 3:11 AM

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and 1% went warrior

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to suffer

bright root Nov 2, 2018, 6:33 AM

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@azure salmon how do u wanna leveling true pvp? :D

blazing notch Nov 2, 2018, 8:52 AM

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Can anyone tell me how to download the classic demo? 😃 i bought the virtual ticket weeks ago, and still cant download it 😦

untold sandal Nov 2, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Relog to your launcher.

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@blazing notch

blazing notch Nov 2, 2018, 9:28 AM

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I have tried that multiple times

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did not work on one computer, but worked on my second one. weird

untold sandal Nov 2, 2018, 9:53 AM

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@blazing notch https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/191659

Blizzard Support

Can't Pre-Download WoW Classic BlizzCon Demo

How to pre-download the Bring Home WoW Classic BlizzCon Demo

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Could be launcher cache

blazing notch Nov 2, 2018, 9:53 AM

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@untold sandal thanks, ill try

untold sandal Nov 2, 2018, 9:54 AM

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My pleasure.

blazing notch Nov 2, 2018, 10:01 AM

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@untold sandal had to re-install the battle net app

untold sandal Nov 2, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Cache clear didn't help?

rigid lotus Nov 2, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Demo can be launched now thru Windows Explorer.

hexed finch Nov 2, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Summer of 2019 btw

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confirmed

rigid lotus Nov 2, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Just in time for my birthday ❤

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Ayyy

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inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:16 PM

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I am curious if you do anything in Classic like get all the classic titles get Ateish and all the other classic stuff liek pally and lock mounts if it will count for current achievemtns.

solemn brook Nov 2, 2018, 7:16 PM

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I don't think anything from Classic will carry over to live.

but there's no explicit confirmation or denial.

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Benediction comes to mind as well

bright root Nov 2, 2018, 7:17 PM

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W3 remaster!

solemn brook Nov 2, 2018, 7:17 PM

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wait what

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:17 PM

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idk it would be pretty cool if it did.

solemn brook Nov 2, 2018, 7:17 PM

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there's no reason for classic stuff to carry over.

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plus, classic doesn't have account-wide stuff, so there's no way it could actually apply something to your account

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no transmog system means no way to save your transmog appearances

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no achievement system means you don't get achievements...

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:18 PM

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as you said you dont know that. I mean the accout you play on is your account as well so you playing on your account so the information may carry over.

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if it dont it dont.

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no big deal

solemn brook Nov 2, 2018, 7:18 PM

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what information?

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the information on your character? there's no way for it to "carry over"

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just like you can't trade soulbound items

blazing ivy Nov 2, 2018, 7:19 PM

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You dont gotta go and ruin his dreams like that mang

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:20 PM

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the game informationt he data lol.....if your character on X Server on X account collects ateish ((for example)) that should be in the accounts game to say hello main game....this account collected Ateish lets give them the fos

solemn brook Nov 2, 2018, 7:20 PM

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so you're saying they should add achievements and everything to classic, and just not make it visible in the interface 🤔

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:20 PM

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You are playing with your account thats on battle net.

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Not saying they should add anything thats current in classic. I am not saying they should do anything....I am just saying it would make sense. X character on X server on WoW Classion obtain Legionaire title.....that data in the account files should carry over to your main game ((if you have one)) and should reconise th at you collected that title. Or if you collected that Black Qiraji Spider or The OG ZG mounts....i mean it would make sense but if it dont work like that then all good I am just happy to play classic for what its origicnal glory was I got a taste of classic when I was playing BC

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Im just curious if it will

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 7:25 PM

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I really hope it doesn't

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cuz that'd just further mitigate the "Rareness" and "pedigree" to having those titles

inland oasis Nov 2, 2018, 7:25 PM

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thats true as well

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:23 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/PlausibleMistySwallowDogFace this might be some new code that blizz have not removed yet but man this is bit concerning.

Twitch

sodapoppin Playing World of Warcraft - Twitch Clips

LFR IN CLASSIC - Clipped by Ninekoo

▶ Play video

hexed finch Nov 2, 2018, 9:26 PM

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it's incredibly likely that the demo was very rushed

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so they didnt bother to do the cleaning up

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Like we've kept saying in this channel @ocean wave Classic IS NOTBUILT OFF OF VANILLA WOW

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It is built offof RETAIL

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So they likely didn't remove a lot of things you would have no reason to type in

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other than to be nitpicky andcritical

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:33 PM

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@oblique folio relax man, I am not nitpicky and critical.

tribal hemlock Nov 2, 2018, 9:34 PM

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blizzard literally is doing what private servers did

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they're downgrading a retail build

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:34 PM

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👍

tribal hemlock Nov 2, 2018, 9:34 PM

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its not "true" vanilla it's a copy. o/

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its also to solve a lot of bug issues

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like

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gamebreaking ones

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:35 PM

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yeah which is great

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Blizzard: Shuts down the most popular classic server. Blizzard: Announces WoW Classic

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ɪ see what they did there

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They smart.

wheat drift Nov 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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@tribal hemlock that may be true but if rather blizz be doing that than a bunch of 27 year olds in there basement.

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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I mean

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it wasn't the most popular

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it just exploded the fastest.

tribal hemlock Nov 2, 2018, 9:43 PM

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they also were earning the most revenue >>;

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from content that wasn't really uh theirs.

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:44 PM

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that's what squared them a hit.

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Alot of private servers end up havinglarge thriving pops, but when it gets uncovered that they made money from it.

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The axe comes out.

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Can't make money from Blizzard and not be Blizzard, that's a big nono.

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:45 PM

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so wat will you guys play wen classic at summer? my self concider mage or lock.

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:45 PM

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I'm going to play a night elfhunter

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level to 25

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andsitin AShenvale

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nothing else matters in classic to me.

ocean wave Nov 2, 2018, 9:46 PM

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👍

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:46 PM

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ɪ'm kind of burnt on WoW right now so ɪ'll probably hold off.

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:46 PM

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how are you burnt for a whole year?

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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ɪ mean ɪ got burnt on heavily modded Minecraft and haven't touched it in like 3 years

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There's no time limit on being burnt out on something

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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that doesn't sound like burn out

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Like ɪ got burnt on Diablo 3 and haven't touched it in like 2 years

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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that just sounds like growing bored of it.

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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thunderbrew lager

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viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Yeah being burnt out

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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no exp

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Burnt out means that even though you want to play

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you just can't bring yourself to play

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:48 PM

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No experience?

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:48 PM

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that's what burn out is

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 9:48 PM

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but found here

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viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Well then nobody uses it correctly oof

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Everyone I know of uses it correctly

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 9:49 PM

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are trainers in the demo?

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Hell Asmongold uses it correctly. Burn out goes by other names such as Fatigue and junk.

viscid narwhal Nov 2, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Everybody here seems to want to argue instead of discuss things. Damn. Guess ɪ'll just yeet.

oblique folio Nov 2, 2018, 9:49 PM

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There'snothing to discuss?

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 9:49 PM

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and no theres no experience on thunderbrew

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but it could be a bug too

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the gnoll camps

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lmao

winter forum Nov 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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lol no res sickness

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 10:01 PM

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its a tech demo

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why would they give you res sickness

hexed finch Nov 2, 2018, 10:01 PM

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the /lfr command in the demo is funny

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 10:01 PM

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theres certain things that are in im sure you can find that dont belong in classic

winter forum Nov 2, 2018, 10:02 PM

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unpopular opinion: bring on LFR naxx

brittle sparrow Nov 2, 2018, 10:02 PM

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wands mmm

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I take it the trainers arent in the demo?

grizzled juniper Nov 2, 2018, 10:06 PM

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probably

sacred eagle Nov 3, 2018, 1:52 AM

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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769548630?page=1#post-15

Guys calm down! (No Sharding thread) - World of Warcraft Forums

Its a demo. A lot of the stuff is clutter left over from the legion client. The phasing can be explained by the sheer number of players trying to play the demo. Its smart. There are only so many servers. Hopefully it will be gone in the actual game. The increased regen could ...

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This is uh, concerning

green folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Not really

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they already addressed it

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 1:53 AM

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I don't see any crowding of people preventing you from clicking questgivers which is really concerning for me

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:53 AM

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http://imgur.com/HDmaCox

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WoW Classic will not have Dungeon Finder/Raid Finder.

green folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:53 AM

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probably because only so many people can play at a time

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it's a demo not a fully supported server

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 1:54 AM

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even a demo should be showing 100 people crowding the starting questgiver

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:55 AM

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To be fair this is already a ruined classic experience

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Fuck them all

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:56 AM

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So not crowding in game isnt much of a worry

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You can actually log in and play with little to no lag. THAT I do not like.

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:57 AM

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@_@

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 1:57 AM

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a crowded popular server with issues was a feature to look forward to ... this demo looks like current retail phasing

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:57 AM

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To be fair obsidian. A lot of stuff is in there leftover from retail

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This isnt a fully dedicated classic experience, this is a tech demo at best

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To prove that yes

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They can do it

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They are doing it

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:01 AM

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ick that link you put to Lore aggreeing that the demo does have sharding also has Lore saying they might implement it just for the starting experience so they dont have players crowding the starting zones and they'll remove it when it becomes less crowded

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Indeed. Much like other tech demos when a company wants to show off something

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They tend to alter it as much as possible

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looks to The Last Guardian where they had to speed up the gameplay footage cuz the ps3 couldnt actually render all of the feathers on screen

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without going at 3 fps that is

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 2:04 AM

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hah

fierce field Nov 3, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Haven't had a chance to log on and play classic yet, is it pretty stable?

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Some people think it's disappointingly stable

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They want the lag and awful connection

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Everything has to be legit

fierce field Nov 3, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Lol, well pull out those old 56k modems and pop in 2gb of ram

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Gotta be truly Authentic™

fierce field Nov 3, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Would be pretty cool if they had a physical disc game that was 6 discs lol

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 2:14 AM

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lmao

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I was the 2nd horde character to hit level cap on my server. Getting ahead of the big pack of nubs and having an actual level race where I can see who I'm racing against was a big point for me

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Think of it this way

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You'll never relive that experience

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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never have a new server leveling race?

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Almost everyone that tackles classic will do the same or better than you due to the large flow of information we have today.

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Only 1 person beat me then. It would be sad if everyone could beat me now

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Thats how it is tho

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Back then, there was little to no info out to hasten peoples leveling

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But now?

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14 years later with no changes?

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With no lockouts to stop people, wouldnt be surprised if by the end of the second week, therea a raid group ready to do MC or AQ.

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Since lockouts only exist on the raids

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:23 AM

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It only takes a week

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:23 AM

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First week is to kevel up the 2-3 toons to max. Second to gear them all.

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Level*

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And MC/AQ/BWL/Ony/Naxx should fall well within 2. Maybe 3 weeks of release

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Rather than months

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As again, more information the top raiders will work with

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which was lacking back in actual vanilla

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:26 AM

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they still need to get rid of sharding

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 2:26 AM

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They probably won't. Its baked into the server tech and is meant to reduce server load and make sure the game doesnt crash.

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If they ever do,which is my hope, we can happiky expect weekly or biweekly crashes.

silent marlin Nov 3, 2018, 2:27 AM

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I want to watch vanilla races more than Uldir races tbh

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oh god I have a single incentive to play classic
I can finally do it... be the scarab lord...

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:28 AM

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.> I knew the scarab lord on my server .. he was a douche

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scammed a whole guild to get his mount

silent marlin Nov 3, 2018, 2:29 AM

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I've met a few
none of them were like that, just people who have been around a LONG time

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one of them had been through multiple server transfers as the community changed, another didnt even create the account he was playing on

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 2:35 AM

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before rep tabards the AQ opening contributions were actually a great way to get exalted with the main faction reps

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a good use for runecloth

brittle sparrow Nov 3, 2018, 3:00 AM

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so many people are freaking out over the demo sharding

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when it hasnt even been confirmed if the actual game will have it

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 3:14 AM

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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769548630

Guys calm down! (No Sharding thread) - World of Warcraft Forums

Its a demo. A lot of the stuff is clutter left over from the legion client. The phasing can be explained by the sheer number of players trying to play the demo. Its smart. There are only so many servers. Hopefully it will be gone in the actual game. The increased regen could ...

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already has in the post by the CM "However, realm sharding is one of the best tools we have to keep realms stable when hundreds of players are swarming the same initial few zones and killing the same few mobs (like they will be at the launch of Classic)." and then he goes on to say that it will be helpful for classic

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 3:15 AM

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At this rate

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I hope Blizz loses that part of the community that can't be suit

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pleased*

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 3:17 AM

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really this Blizzcon has been very disappointing

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Our only hope is the blizzcon classic panel tommrow

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maybe the devs can shed more light on this

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But i wonder if our demo characters will be saved for when classic launches except scaled to level one? 🤔

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 3:19 AM

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For me I dont want to be counted as an "active BFA sub"

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I am going to strangle them all

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 3:19 AM

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same that's kinda lame

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it should have been its own $5 sub or something

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 3:20 AM

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No

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I mean I am going to strangle those with that same mentality, this is too much

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 3:21 AM

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sad

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Honestly

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I need to stay away from the forums or im going to strangle someone

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 3:22 AM

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big mood

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 3:22 AM

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They all whine

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whine whine

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"oh i don't want to be counted for bfa sub"

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"oh no"

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"oh that"

green folio Nov 3, 2018, 4:04 AM

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I mean they won't share sub numbers anymore anyway

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so theres no need to worry about what metric you're representing

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 4:08 AM

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You don't need numbers to realize how shit the community is

indigo venture Nov 3, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Im not the kinda person thats gonna play classic hardcore, but man, this makes me miss hunter quivers and having multiple weapons

blazing ivy Nov 3, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Woah that's the first time I heard someone say that they missed hunter quivers

indigo venture Nov 3, 2018, 5:19 AM

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visually

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I do not miss the mechanics of not being able to attack lol

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but it was a worthy trade for actually pulling arrows from a quiver, not thin air

brittle sparrow Nov 3, 2018, 6:16 AM

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night time in the demo

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reef zephyr Nov 3, 2018, 8:39 AM

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was there a setting to have the quest text appear instantly?

idle kite Nov 3, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Yes

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I miss quivers
And that little keypouch

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I miss my rogue having that slot for a ranged/thrown weapon

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:04 PM

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there's a small part of me that misses that.

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But then again that same part of me misses that Overlord wasn't known as an anime, but a mediocre dark comedy video game.

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Oh, I'm not like
I HAVE TO HAVE THIS BACK NOW
It's just... I enjoyed those flavor things.

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:05 PM

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part of that is why i still play MM hunter. (Even though people incorrectly call it 'bad' and gave it a bad name)

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:06 PM

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I only play MM and Surv

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Mostly MM

green folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:24 PM

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https://strawpoll.com/7wh9s6y6

Do you Agree with sharding in Classic WOW? - Strawpoll.com

Vote now: Do you Agree with sharding in Classic WOW? - Yes or No. - Whats your opinion?

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:24 PM

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rolls eyes

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It's like people don't realize it's a demo and that sharding has already been addressed.

oblique folio Nov 3, 2018, 1:25 PM

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http://imgur.com/HDmaCox @green folio

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WoW Classic will not have Dungeon Finder/Raid Finder.

solemn brook Nov 3, 2018, 1:50 PM

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sharding has been addressed as in saying it might be a good idea for actual launch?

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that's not the sort of addressing classic wow people (or, I guess, anyone) wants

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 1:54 PM

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But it'll be taken away after

feral shoal Nov 3, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Idk I think they are saying they will take it away if they can but it's not guaranteed.

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 6:28 PM

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A toaster

quiet pine Nov 3, 2018, 6:29 PM

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A mouse and keyboard.

fair karma Nov 3, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Jk jk I'm sure they're listed somewhere

idle kite Nov 3, 2018, 7:41 PM

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If it can run bfa you are fine

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It's the same engine with less details

cerulean briar Nov 3, 2018, 7:46 PM

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technically it's legion cause 7.3.5

blazing ivy Nov 3, 2018, 8:25 PM

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What about trying a private server then?

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Probably

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But its better than wondering if itll work

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Or I guess just waiting until they release the requirements

green folio Nov 3, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Des thats talking about LFR not sharding

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There was another blue post which thought that sharding would be good for the first few months while low level areas were flooded

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Even though it was a community manager speaking his mind. People still need to make it loud a clear that they don’t want it

mortal palm Nov 3, 2018, 9:14 PM

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pretty sure they know it'll be an unpopular concept. but the reality is there's only going to be a handful of servers bombarded with millions of concurrent players in the first few weeks

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it'll be a nightmare

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(if they don't shard people)

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singular mob tapping, long spawn timers, sparse mob density

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once the novelty wears off and the population settles, they'll probably stop the sharding

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 9:48 PM

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having sharding at all is a no go

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long spawn timers, sparse mob density, thousands of people stealing your things. Those are all features that make the game

blazing ivy Nov 3, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Yeees

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That frustration makes the game for me

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Once you get shit it is so satisfying

trail sierra Nov 3, 2018, 9:54 PM

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I don't expect them to fix anything though. This demo proves they can't provide and private servers are probably the better option

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 10:11 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20181103-161140_Discord.jpg

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:31 PM

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There is so much I didn't know that I'm learning in this demo

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like corruption had a cast time

hexed finch Nov 3, 2018, 10:32 PM

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thats what the demo is for

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:32 PM

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playing a paladin is nostalgic

hexed finch Nov 3, 2018, 10:32 PM

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to shatter those rose goggles

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:32 PM

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as it's all I was

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oh I ain't got rose goggles

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I'm only goin back cause my friend/s are

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and tbh it's pretty fun

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brings back memories

maiden river Nov 3, 2018, 10:39 PM

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killing other players with the wand is always satisfying

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:40 PM

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I don't want to level a holy pally again

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might go shaman

maiden river Nov 3, 2018, 10:43 PM

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shams were fun if you manage your mana good

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:44 PM

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yeah there's a lotta mana used by elemental spells

maiden river Nov 3, 2018, 10:44 PM

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ill run with a priest first and then a warrior i guess

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:48 PM

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oh right

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shamans could be tanks

maiden river Nov 3, 2018, 10:48 PM

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yeah kind of

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 10:53 PM

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the talents actually fit

maiden river Nov 3, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Ah just remember that I have to level a mage to make money

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 11:14 PM

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I can't level past 16

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"starter cap reached"

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halp

grizzled juniper Nov 3, 2018, 11:14 PM

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HAH

abstract copper Nov 3, 2018, 11:17 PM

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yp, can't level at all

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and it's fixed

vale falcon Nov 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Hello Blizzard my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision of this Classic
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planned in our brains
Still remains
Within the Original Classic/

In resting Barrens I walked allone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
Beneath the halo of an rebuilded street lamp
You turned our collar into cold and the damned
When my eyes where stabbed by the flash
of a neon newish fcked up classic light
That split the night
And touched the Original Classic/

And in the naked light we saw
280.000 petitioned people maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing Threads that their voices you never shared
No one dared
Disturbed the Original Classic/

"Fools" said I, "you dont know
DemoChanges like a cancer grows
Hear my words that i might teach you
Take my arms that i might reach you"
But my words like silent raindrops fell
and echoed in the wells of Original Classic/

And the people bowed and prayed
to the new Classic which they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
in the words it was forming
And the sign said
"The words of the veterans
are written on the Ironforge subway walls
And Undercity halls
And whispered in the Name of Classic" /

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 7:53 AM

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🤔

reef zephyr Nov 4, 2018, 8:20 AM

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Wuhu AQ is coming back, would be nice if i could get that Achievement and the mount over to bfa servers with no differences

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 8:25 AM

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it's quite unlikely you would get the title & mount, even if that was implemented

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not saying you specifically, it's just that it's quite hard

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remember, there's no LFR

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the mount was legendary quality for a reason--it was about as hard to get as the vanilla lengendaries from what I can gather, only you only had a much more limited time to get it

reef zephyr Nov 4, 2018, 8:27 AM

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i know it was difficult, but still worth trying 😉

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 8:27 AM

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and of course only one person out of the 40 man raids would get it :)

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just like the legendaries

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afaik

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Classic will not have achievements

trim ocean Nov 4, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Not sure the two will be linked to allow access to mount either

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 9:40 AM

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even if they were linked, remember that Classic has no mechanism for account-wide mounts

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so earning the mount in Classic does not get you the mount anywhere else

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and you can't access account wide mounts from Classic cuz Classic has no account wide mount accessing system

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 12:38 PM

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I'd rather not. Especially considering we don't know how many servers will actually be up in classic, I wouldn't want to dilute and make the Scarab Lord/Black AQ mount more popular. I like it as a legend and mark of a legendary player

grizzled juniper Nov 4, 2018, 12:45 PM

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...

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I think being the scarab lord this time is going to be a worse ordeal than the first time

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Why?

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People are being assholes rn in classic

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No one will want someone else being a legendary person

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 2:59 PM

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I'd imagine a lot of guild drama for that lol

hexed finch Nov 4, 2018, 3:42 PM

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the drama was a big part of classic with ninjalooting

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so it's going to be even better now

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 3:52 PM

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oh yeahhhh

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"Bro i played in vanilla i deserve that axe"

hexed finch Nov 4, 2018, 3:58 PM

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"jokes on you i already equipped it"

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"NINJALOOTERS REEEE"

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the only item i ever ninjalooted was Thori'dal(legendary bow from sunwell in tbc) on my druid

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i got kicked out of the guild too #worthit

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 4:02 PM

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O O F

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 4:23 PM

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how did "ninjalooting" work?

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could anyone just walk up and pick up the item, regardless of loot setting?

maiden river Nov 4, 2018, 4:26 PM

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No, you used to have Master Looter which gave said person sole access to all the loot from a boss. Who would then just take the items he wanted (often rare mounts) and drop group, despite stating that everything was 'free roll' when forming the raid.

solemn brook Nov 4, 2018, 4:28 PM

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so someone in a position that could be kicked was nevertheless given Master Looter?

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hmm

maiden river Nov 4, 2018, 4:28 PM

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What do you mean in a position to be kicked?

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The Master Looter was generally the party/raid leader or a friend of said person, so no, they wouldn't be in a position to get kicked.

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Oh, I see, in reference to Dafire's comment. Those were pretty rare occassions.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 4:35 PM

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well the only 2 rare mounts that dropped from bosses in vanilla were the 2 from zul gurub

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and that was a 20 man

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A ninja looter would steal all the loot from the boss even if it was not suitable for his/her class just to make everyone mad

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And maybe 1 or 2 pieces the ninja could use if they were lucky

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just to disenchant the rest

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 4:51 PM

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@cerulean briar You forget Rivendare's mount

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Ahhh yes

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the 0.0001% drop rate, Rivendare's deathcharger

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The drop rate was bumbed in either cata or mop with the dungeon re vamp

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the vanilla drop rate was astronomically low

idle kite Nov 4, 2018, 5:03 PM

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No ninja looting in classic cuz of tradable items for limited time frame... At least not to the same degree

mortal palm Nov 4, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Lol ok

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That'll go well

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 5:41 PM

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well if a sword drops and there are 3 warriors and 1 priest in the party, the 3 warriors AND the priest can roll need and if the priest wins, he can give it to his warrioir friend, therefore giving the priests warrior friend a double chance of winning the sword

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Priests cannot roll need on swords because they can't use them.

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You cannot control social exploitation in this game because you would do the same for your friend.

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:11 PM

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On retail

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that is true

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Back then however

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not so much

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Yeah because there was no group trading back then

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:12 PM

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And back then is what we're speaking of. Ninja looting will be a thing again and it'll suck.

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Cuz we don't want no QoL changes.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Its the original game. Changes shouldnt be made

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Gotta just take the L

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Indeed.

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It should suck today just as much asit did yesterday.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:13 PM

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2 hour loot trading will suk

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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that's only on live Explor.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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But people will bitch about everything just like how they're complaining about the sub price

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Classic never had that.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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No they said they would put it in classic

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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yeah they said it'll be in classic

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Oh.

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In that case

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classics ruined already

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A QoL change made itthat'll shape the community into a direction that wasn't vanilla.

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Which is fairness. It shouldn't be fair.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Honestly the only thing classic should have is the ability to queue for dungeon and pvp. IF they were going to modernize classic in any way. I hated standing by the arathi basin npc to queue

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Absolutely not.

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Queing is what killedthis game accordingto the community.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Well they're wrong

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:16 PM

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queing in dungeons l o l

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battlemasters were added in like 1.5 right?

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Yup

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with BGs

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as they weren't a launch thing

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:17 PM

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hmmm

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:17 PM

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They said that the pvp rewards will be in the game just not the big ones that overshadowed raid gear

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And I think they said they were doing patch 1.13

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Yup it has to be patch 1.13.

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But it'll be all the content available in 1.12

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:18 PM

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But they're releasing everything in waves

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:18 PM

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as a patch 1.12 already exists, Classic isn't built on it's own independent client. It's jerry-rigged off of the retail client.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Yeap

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I think they should release the green dragons before AQ because they drop nature resistance gear and it's better to stock up on that rather than racing to kill them to finish AQ 40

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Which makes me worried for account wide stuff. I hope that doesn't exist.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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So itll never be purely as vanilla as the game was. They're skipping almost two years of patches to 2006 right before the 2.0 patch

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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ya but they're releasing the content over time

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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But sadly it's already ruined.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Cause 2 hr loot

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Yup.

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It's already not the classic experience.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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yep

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and also sharding

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:20 PM

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So how far did you guys get in classic?

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:21 PM

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the sharding they said they were removing where they not?

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Ya like a few weeks later when everyone is despersed

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Yeah

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So how far did you guys get in vanilla

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:22 PM

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16

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then i dueled people

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it was great

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Oh wow level 16 sounds like younreappy experienced it

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Really*

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I don't think a lot of people have experinced it until now

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Yeah not many but a lot of people worshipping it dont know what they're asking for

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I know exactly what I'm asking for

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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So how far did you get?

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I'm asking to experience everything in vanilla.

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Good.

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Bad.

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sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Oh. Okay.

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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As far as the demo will actuallylet you go.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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i thought they fixed that

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I mean how far did you get in 2006

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I want the ninjalooting to be back. I want the horrible lag.

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Back in 06? I got to level 60.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:26 PM

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And what was your characters progression

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:26 PM

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i wanna lvl like 2 60's

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this summer

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Cleared MC, BWL, was clearing AQ but by then BC was coming out.

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:26 PM

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AND NOBODY DID NAXX 40

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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To much grind. Which is exactly what vanilla was.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Actually that's false, I cleared 3/4 ×>,%@

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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yeah it was only for like 6 months until tbc

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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A very very long grind.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Wings*

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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When he says nobody cleared Naxx, he means

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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But hopefully you guys experience more this time around

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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the majority of the playerbase never got to see it.

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which is true.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:27 PM

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It is

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Which further breaks what vanilla was. It was the time that it kicked you in the balls and didn't apologize. It just laughed at you.

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That is the vanilla I wanted.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

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But also because finding 40 competent people was the hardest thing. Vanilla basically had stand out of fire mechanics with the exception of Heigan the unclean s dance

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

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So that all the nostalgia glasses that claim it was so great

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can get shattered.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Classic was easier than modern wow. 40 people just made it difficult because 15 of them actually did something while 25 half assed everything else.

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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and that's the classic I wanted.But sadly

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we'll never get.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Yeah well now with modern experiences naxx should be cleared with ease.

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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INdeed.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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And classic will be over.

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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And with loot being better distributed.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:30 PM

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So TLDR: classic will flop

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 6:30 PM

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thanks to the fair system from retail being put in

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gear won't be the choke point it was back then

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So things will go faster.

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Thus ruining classic's experience.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Master looter will fix that in guilds because people will snitch if someone doesn't equip a master looted item

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:31 PM

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they will get blacklisted on that server and nobody will like them

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:31 PM

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But master looter had it's own flaws too man. People giving their girlfriends or e girlfriends loot, officer favoritism, guild drama

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:31 PM

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you have to build a reputation on your server

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Yep. But even the assholes got to join the best guilds anyway because the assholes were usually the better players on the server

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:32 PM

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they're called elitists

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 6:33 PM

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They're called winners

cerulean briar Nov 4, 2018, 6:33 PM

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bingo

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 7:53 PM

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No

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They're just assholes

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You can't excuse shitty behavior with "oh they're just hardcore"

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 7:53 PM

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they're assholes because they're hardcore

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 7:54 PM

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There are plenty of hardcore people that aren't assholes

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but there are a ton that treat it like a job

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 7:58 PM

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In vanilla treating raiding like a job was how you excelled though.

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This discussion will continue to prove we have outgrown classic

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 8:00 PM

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also goes to show just how poorly designed classic really was.

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Having to treat a game like it was a job is how ya build resentment.

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Well I'm comparing things like raid mechanics and pvp content. 2400 in retail gives you grand marshal. But grand Marshal in classic was based off a poor ladder system where servers set a social cap not to exceed

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Classic will only be great for hardcore players and streamers like asmongold. It will be mediocre at best for the average player struggling to find groups who will inevitable quit from not being invited to anything where the dungeon finder gave them their fix.

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Hence why its attached to retail. Blizzard probably feels the same way

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 8:06 PM

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I wanna play a shaman tank

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I will get invited to nothing

sharp skiff Nov 4, 2018, 8:07 PM

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glhf

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Or some of us who will rebuild our original guilds. Already have discord up and they are recruiting from old emails and such to recreate our vanilla guilds.

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To get trust and friends back playing so we can pick up where we left off.

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 8:58 PM

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My vanilla guild is long gone

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I don't even know how to contact them

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old vent servers are dead

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Can always come join a rebuilt one like ours. Get of fenris from destromath. We were a couple hundred strong in vanilla

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 8:59 PM

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I used to be a top raider

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idk if I could do that again

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 9:00 PM

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True enough, but the fun is in the friendships we forged

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:00 PM

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True

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 9:00 PM

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The nostalgia we can enjoy again

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And friends we can meet up with again....we may not have emails or phone numbers but if they come back...we'll have a home for them

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:01 PM

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I wanna shaman tank

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I only ever played holy pally

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 9:01 PM

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And since it's part of cost of retail we can get then added back on bnet

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Shaman tank only lasted to.about 45

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After the plate cut over warriors just scream ahead in scale

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Instead of mail warriors and pallies up to 40

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:03 PM

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I don care, I'mma do it

surreal escarp Nov 4, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Hehe hey I rogue tanked dungeons

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So I can't say impossible

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Oh yea wedo that in real life

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:08 PM

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wussat

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:08 PM

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it's called highschool reunions and all my old 'friends' turned into garbage people. Like me =D

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:09 PM

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I didn't go to highschool

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rooDerp

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:09 PM

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rip u

tiny nymph Nov 4, 2018, 9:12 PM

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what's a friend

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:12 PM

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^

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:14 PM

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ow. that hurt rocket

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Excuse me but you are wrong about like...

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30 stuff

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:35 PM

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wowe

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:36 PM

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ok but the nelf warfront cinematic

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was amazing

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like... 12/10

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:36 PM

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It was nice. shame the reality is nothinglike the fluff of that cinematic

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 9:38 PM

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shhh

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give it time

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they might make it better

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 9:39 PM

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They won't tho. They applied what fixes they would.

green sparrow Nov 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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I don't think they've ever made nelfs look good outside of cinematics

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Warcraft 3

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Vanilla.

green sparrow Nov 4, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Thats so long ago ;x

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 10:08 PM

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well nelves got kinda

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lax

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now they're bein badass

green sparrow Nov 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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They had the flu but got better I guess?

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They were tired of being worfed all the time.

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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They became peaceful

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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No they didn't

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they didn't become peaceful

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if there was an alliance civil war over the nelves taking out their revenge

oblique folio Nov 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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Blizzard ripped out their fangs and stopped giving a shit about them.

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AS it was cataclysm that they suddenly are just incapableof fighting the horde

abstract copper Nov 4, 2018, 10:14 PM

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rooShrug

open birch Nov 5, 2018, 8:19 AM

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we need dkp's back

abstract copper Nov 6, 2018, 12:58 AM

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no

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:18 AM

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DKP and loot prior is esence of vanilla.. Not like now everything for everybody.. Current loot system is same as all trophy and celebrate for Kids shit, what literally means nothing.. (looking on u murika)

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 1:19 AM

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ah yes. Vanilla loot. The time where everything got ninja'd and if I got sick well fuck me amiright?

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:20 AM

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If your Master looter is piece of shit ofc khadgarface
And if u are sick and arent inna raid, u dont deserve it, cuz u arent here

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 1:21 AM

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yea fuck that whole idea. People hav elives, they shouldn't be punished forit.

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:22 AM

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If u cant invest your time in to it, what do u expect..

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U also dont get money if u havent job / internet muny

fair karma Nov 6, 2018, 1:25 AM

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Oh yes, the trophies for everyone thing
You know
That thing our parents decided for us?
We know participation prizes are bullshit so how about get out with that. We didn't pick them. The boomers who have to have everything did.

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Im glad I havent stupid parents, so i dont know what empty trophies or celebrating any piece of pointless achievs in school / live was..
And im glad for any real achiev, so if i got some piece of gear after toons of run, im ok with that.. Not like be geared af after one month playing..

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(also empty trophies is mostly 'murika thing.. Middle EU here)

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 1:37 AM

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I mean.

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Be as ignorant as you want about it I guess.

fair karma Nov 6, 2018, 1:38 AM

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Sounds like my sister
"Back when WoW was actually hard"
Yeah, sure
When lag was a mechanic

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 1:38 AM

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I lived my whole life in the US. Everything on my shelves was earned. Honestly I only ever see people talk about empty trophies but never actually see empty participation events.

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Even if they could get a 1:1 creation of it, it would not be the same experience.

fair karma Nov 6, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Depends on your area
I feel like the nicer areas I saw had more participation than the not so great areas

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Basically prissy kids vs poor kids

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Anyway, Tow is pretty accurate

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Classic Returned isn't going to be the same

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 1:41 AM

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The thing is, a lot of that difficulty came because it an entirely new game. People didn't know much about mechanics or how it worked.

fair karma Nov 6, 2018, 1:41 AM

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The newness is gone

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Everybody know it not going be same..
But drop / gearing have some principes in vanilla, isnt easy obtain that sweet tier set or just piece of that.. If u do t like it and want shit of toon gear for scraping just play BfA

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 1:42 AM

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I'm not against it existing, it's something I want to experience for myself eventually.

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 1:44 AM

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not entirely haze.

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the current system and it's 2h trading is going to be there.

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So gearing is not as large as an obstacle as it used to be

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 1:45 AM

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Which is quite nice for raiding, let's be honest, you arent going to let anyone else to get gear

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Not everyone is*

cerulean briar Nov 6, 2018, 1:45 AM

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There's already gold sellers in classic❓

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i just saw this guy

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 1:45 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised

cerulean briar Nov 6, 2018, 1:46 AM

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classic isn't even out yet and there's already gold sellers lmfao

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 1:46 AM

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It's a mafia

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Do they think anyone is going to believe they have money to even sell?

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The people I saw wanting Classic can't seem to agree what Classic even is.

abstract copper Nov 6, 2018, 1:48 AM

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they're joking

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:49 AM

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I dont like idea trading BoP items

abstract copper Nov 6, 2018, 1:50 AM

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why

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Honestly why not?

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Although with Master looter

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There shouldnt be a real need to trade

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 1:56 AM

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I KNOW.. thats what I like.. Master loot.. And if u screw up as ML, u screw up its your fail.. U must accept that.. I also made few mistakes in TBC when i was raid leader.. And give for example Tempest of Chaos (caster dagger from Archimonde in Hyjal) our balance drood instead warlock.. And i was punished for it.. Any time when somebody screw up must accept consequences..

green sparrow Nov 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

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I don't really understand how exactly that is essential to the classic experience.

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Vanilla had free loot iirc

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Wat

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Nope, ML definetly was there.. If MLter was ninja, its bad, if somebody forgot set it, ita his fail and anybody can ninja it..

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Now its personal loot shit show

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 2:20 AM

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There is no personal loot in classic iorc

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Iirc

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Im talking about retail.. Thats what I dont like..

blazing ivy Nov 6, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Can't wait until people are ninja lootin

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Yes, im one of that old guys who spended hour farming food for be sure everybody in raid had buffs etc.. Guy who decises who got loot and who not.. Im not happy for Blizzurd gave everything for free.. Everybody needs be special snowflake.. Piece of shit..

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 2:24 AM

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they dont give everything away for free

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if they did

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where's your hall of fame for G'huun?

silent marlin Nov 6, 2018, 2:28 AM

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well des.. you see.. theyre doing participation trophies instead.. i bet..

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Im not sayin its for free, but still blizz literally throwing gear on players..

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 2:32 AM

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I dont know man

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 2:32 AM

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So

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 2:32 AM

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I havent got a single piece of gear in uldir

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 2:32 AM

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Haze

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wher's your g'huun hall of fame?

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Why is it my one week logins aren't making me mythic ready?

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 2:32 AM

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Where is my full uldir gear

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Liek the only piece of guaranteed gear is the warfront one

abstract copper Nov 6, 2018, 2:37 AM

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tbh

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bfa has a bit much in the free gear department

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which mucks over M+

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because their ilvl is good but they suck

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like a lot

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like, resto druid that doesn't use solar beam once throughout a whole +9 motherlode

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Preach did a video on it

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 2:49 AM

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I havent it.. If i'll be honest.. I dont play endgame long time.. Cuz i just dont like lot of things what blizz did.. In fact i havent active sub rn..
Im just waiting till summer hits

abstract copper Nov 6, 2018, 6:46 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/9ubyr6/wow_classic_demo_feedback_bugs_and_legion/

r/classicwow - WoW Classic Demo feedback: Bugs and Legion mechanic...

1,362 votes and 707 comments so far on Reddit

idle kite Nov 6, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Nice thread. Yup, alot of obscure things have changed along the road to the legion client. Some things are not so obvious. Good thing they have the original 1.12 client to be able to test these things and possibly change them.

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Hard to say which would have been better... Update the 1.12 to current bnet integration or patch in all the vanilla querks into the 7.3.5 one. Hope they made the right decision. Summer can't come soon enough.

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 2:26 PM

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to be honest

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I kinda want all these bugs to exist. Where it just doesn't work properly.

idle kite Nov 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Lol

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You really want this to fail epicly

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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He wants it to be true to classic so nostalgia googles fall from elitists

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

#

^

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That and vanilla was heavily buggy

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for it's entire run

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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But having the option to play Vanilla without the inconveniences it had in the past is good for those people that have never played it

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Although it means that elitists have a new weapon

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"Back in my day this was bugged"

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"Back in my day we had to play with lag"

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And bullshit like that

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Nobody ever will said we needs lags for more autentic feel :D .. And if u want lags just set your max FPS down to 8 :D

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Lag

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Not fps drops

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:25 PM

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That was also case :D
Nobbel had great stream.. He set up all things down (also run it on 680x360) set FPS, play some 2k5 song and dueling.. It was OWSOM 👌 😂 😂

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:26 PM

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LAG

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I know

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:26 PM

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LATENCY

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WHEN EVEN IF YOU MOVE AROUND AND TRY TO ATTACK THE SERVER DOESNT REGISTERS IT UNTIL A FEW SECONDS DEPENDING ON THE LATENCY

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I know what is that.. But now it isnt possible cuz technical progress.. And i dont think anybody will be pissed for smoothly running

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:28 PM

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...there were

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People

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That didnt like the demo running smoothly

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Lulw

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 4:29 PM

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it's a true criticism.

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People want the authentic experience

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not the cherry picked "authentic" experience

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which I honestly support those more than the cherry picked ones.

grizzled juniper Nov 6, 2018, 4:30 PM

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They dont realize that's kinda hard for Blizzard due their quality standards

bright root Nov 6, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I dunno, for it seems like "i wanna ride on horse in faster part of highway

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 4:37 PM

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The way everyone wants vanilla to come out is "I just want hte good of vanilla and none of the bad."

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So they want to go back to a time without cars but don't want to actually care for the horses and carriages.

broken olive Nov 6, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Maybe use some tool to throttle your internet speed? I know I did play a little WoW over rather crappy connections 😝

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Even incidentally over a GPRS mobile connection ...

maiden river Nov 6, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Hi guys. When does calssic demo ends?

oblique folio Nov 6, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I believe it ends on the 8th

maiden river Nov 6, 2018, 8:55 PM

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thank you 😃

lost mauve Nov 6, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Classiccccc

maiden river Nov 7, 2018, 1:49 AM

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I just had a small patch for classic, I'm wondering what could that mean

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Probably nothing interesting if it ends soon...

abstract copper Nov 7, 2018, 2:48 AM

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rooShrug

wild spear Nov 7, 2018, 10:31 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/3BDoShS.png Anyone elses demo patching?

Imgur

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50 meg patch.

maiden river Nov 7, 2018, 2:06 PM

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What's better to play in classic, mage or warlock?

oblique folio Nov 7, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Mage

maiden river Nov 7, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Frost focused?

oblique folio Nov 7, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Doesn't matter

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you use frostbolt. Only way to save mana in a raid fight

maiden river Nov 7, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Thx.

broken olive Nov 7, 2018, 3:41 PM

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Rank 1 frostbolt? 😋

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I remember having several ranks of healing spells on my bars when running Molten Core as a druid 😇

abstract copper Nov 7, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Mage is more useful

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Warlock doa in insane

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Especially in pvp

idle kite Nov 8, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Everyone needs a lock for banish and summons... Plus with 16 debuf slots will get a big dps boost from shadow priests debuf

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Especially in mc for garr

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Locks are pretty rare though...thus you will have a garante spot. Plus one shotting anyone with fear succubus charm and 5k shadow bolts its pretty nice as well

oblique folio Nov 8, 2018, 6:32 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=288505&webhook/world-of-warcraft-classic-demo-extended-to-12-november

Wowhead

World of Warcraft: Classic Demo Extended to 12 November

The World of Warcraft: Classic Demo has been extended throughout November 12th

rancid cloud Nov 8, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Wooooo bois!

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I finally have time to get to 19 😄

spark lodge Nov 8, 2018, 7:31 PM

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i was hoping to kill more striders.

grizzled juniper Nov 8, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Buy the access from a virtual ticket

broken olive Nov 9, 2018, 11:10 AM

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Or wait to next summer, this is still the Blizzcon demo.

reef zephyr Nov 10, 2018, 3:14 PM

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UI has come a long way for spells and mounts compared to classic

maiden river Nov 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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When is end of classic demo, and what is max level to level up ?

bright root Nov 11, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Demo is just 15-19..And in fact horde has much more content to do.. And OP shamans..
And is extended to 12.11 i think

abstract copper Nov 11, 2018, 1:47 AM

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Demo ends on the 12th

bright root Nov 11, 2018, 3:57 AM

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I hope for some alfa/beta, cuz demo isnt enough and also rn ppl found many incorrect thinks.. So, in whole world will be a lot more testing to do..

abstract copper Nov 11, 2018, 6:21 AM

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it's a demo

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of course it's not gonna be perfect

spark lodge Nov 11, 2018, 1:36 PM

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i dont understand why when they say demo it is not retail ready

oblique folio Nov 11, 2018, 2:32 PM

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Do you know what a tech demo is @spark lodge

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it's more a "proof of concept"

#

or rather

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tech demo isnt' the right word for it

#

Erm. Hang on. lemme get the right terminology here

#

It's more accurate to call it a V-slice.

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A slice of the game to show off to the public, or to investors, on how a game should be operating regardless of all its bugs. It's a proof of concept to gain traction for the end goal of launch. Other games like Yandere Simulator are currently in this phase of development.

spark lodge Nov 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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"sarcasm"

oblique folio Nov 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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There's no way to tell sarcasm in text sandra :L

mortal palm Nov 11, 2018, 10:05 PM

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It's the internet

silent marlin Nov 11, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Tbh I no longer trust words like demo or beta, they imply that it's a work in progress and much will change but very often they don't anymore
Though WoW does tend to not follow that modern trend I guess

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 12:55 PM

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so, how is your general feel with classic? was it worth all the time to make?

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Dunno. I saw people loving it.

#

It's certainly Vanilla WoW. Bugs and all to iron out.

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Here's hoping it stays this broken

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:14 PM

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personally really dont get why people would want to play it for more than 2hrs of nostalgia

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Same. BUt hey.

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They think "Grindier means harder" and since retail has a lot of QoL that makes it less grindy until you hit max

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they see it as "Easy"

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:20 PM

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eh

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its slower

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not harder

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Oh 100%

#

Just detailing their way of thinking

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:21 PM

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plus, id say most of the charm of old WoW was community building and such

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and youre not really going to get that back, thats to do with factors outside of the game itself mostly

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Yup

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a lot of what "Made vanilla great" was just due to it being a new game

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:21 PM

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aye

#

in the same vein i dont get why ppl only base their rating of WoW on sub numbers....

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mmorpg as a genre just lost a lot of players and theres just way more options

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Indeed! Games like SWTOR, while having low player pops and sub numbers, is still a good game in its own right

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:22 PM

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aye, wish i wouldve played more of it, had great storytelling n such

trim ocean Nov 12, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I thought more time dead meant harder...

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:23 PM

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in that case the game is very very hard for pvp players

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:23 PM

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That's not due to it being difficult though

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that's just wonky balance

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:23 PM

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plus, when they made the raids a lot harder with cata there was nothing but complaints

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early cata dungeons ❤

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:24 PM

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When a game doesn't work right, or has mobs that are not tuned properly, that doesn't mean it's suddenly difficult. Difficulty exists when your actual skill is challenged, and MMORPGs that are based on tabtargeting isn't much.

Actually as Middle just pointed out, the Cata dungeons when they first came out were legitimately difficult. Why? it tested your playstyle and made you have to care about it's mechanics.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:25 PM

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aye, best fun ive had in wow

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but i just got back from like a 6 year break

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so havent really done the latest patches

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expansions*

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:25 PM

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In fact, challenge mode in pandaria was just that. A challenge. No gear barrier ot make it easier.

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but yea. Classic wasn't a challenge. It was just new at the time. And sadly, it's length of time was due to a lack of knowledge and ease of access to said knowledge. Day 1 I can almost guarantee someone will hit level 40. day 2 they'll hit 60. Just because they have access to what's efficient and what isn't.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:29 PM

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well, i get it from a financial perspective

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they want the revenue from private servers

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but id be suprised if it actually becomes a long term succes

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id laugh really hard if they eventually start adding TBC to it though

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just a WoW version thats like 20 years behind

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Which is funny as private servers don't actually pull in much revenue.

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if any at all. Because that's illegal. All donations have to go towards just keeping the server up.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:31 PM

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no clue what those numbers are

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but i assume theyre ok-ish, else they wouldnt have invested in this

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:32 PM

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People do it as a side gig for a lot of the time. Myself being in that community and know several devs who aren't paid a dime, again legality.

They also do it as a sort of "This is the sort of work I can do with this much available". So it looks decent on a resume

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:33 PM

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ah yeah, but thered have to be enough demand for the paid product for blizz to consider making this

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Oh yes there is huge demand

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:33 PM

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either that or they want to crack down harder on private servers to boost subs

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Private servers can reach upwards of 10k concurrents.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:33 PM

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thats not really a lot though

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on the WoW scale

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:34 PM

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On the scale of WoW who has several million, no it' snot a lot.

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But out of the pserver community, it's massive to have numbers like that. Most servers never breach 1-2k concurrents

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if they even get that popular.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:35 PM

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never really played any private servers

buoyant vector Nov 12, 2018, 1:35 PM

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The world record for leveling in private servers blizzlike is 4 days of /played btw

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:36 PM

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im a spoilt boy, i want my customer service

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and i want it to work all the time

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:36 PM

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I can almost guarantee it'll get broken by retail players.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:37 PM

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im just really curious when people will start to nag for more content on classic

oblique folio Nov 12, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Oh they already are

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People are wondering and asking if blizz will add content like things that were cut to Classic.

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I personally don't want that to happen, and don't think it'll ever happen, as that's not what classic was.

cosmic harbor Nov 12, 2018, 1:38 PM

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people are very idiosyncratic though

spark lodge Nov 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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i was hoping classic would be vanilla with the current UI, classic ui is unbearable imo

mortal palm Nov 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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so you wanted them to not use the most visible part of classic when #nochanges exists?

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that's bold

abstract copper Nov 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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unfortunately the swtor endgame hasn't been getting better

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so far classic looks to be vanilla with very minor almost unnoticeable changes

buoyant vector Nov 13, 2018, 10:53 AM

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You will be able to change the whole UI anyway

open birch Nov 13, 2018, 12:04 PM

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xperl all the way

oblique folio Nov 13, 2018, 12:16 PM

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xperl was discontinued D= it's Zperl now

open birch Nov 13, 2018, 12:17 PM

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but if they relaunch vanilla i guess we can use the xperl for that version

oblique folio Nov 13, 2018, 12:18 PM

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considering this isn't just a recreation of the old vanilla, it's an emulation chimera of a thing, I don't think that'll work

open birch Nov 13, 2018, 12:25 PM

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aw

broken olive Nov 13, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Will we also get to play with some bot accounts? We had fun with dragging some elites on top of those in Azshara 😝

oblique folio Nov 13, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Considering botting and multi-boxing breaks TOS. and they have all their fancy anti-cheating software in.

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Maybe, maybe not

grizzled juniper Nov 13, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I thought multiboxing was still in the ToD

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ToS

oblique folio Nov 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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No it hasn't been. Just people don't report it.

grizzled juniper Nov 13, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Huh

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I thought that, due it being a lot of purchased subs, it was on the limit of being legal and illegal

oblique folio Nov 13, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Even doing so, you can still get banned for it.

mortal palm Nov 13, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Blizzard is 100% ok with multiboxing

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As long as they aren't controlled by bots

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And they are all being paid for, of course

tiny nymph Nov 13, 2018, 5:23 PM

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the general idea is that as long as there's player input to make all those multiboxxed characters do what they do, it's acceptable. hell, that goes for anything in the game: once gameplay is automated without player input, that's where blizz draws the line

sacred bobcat Nov 18, 2018, 10:31 AM

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^^^^^^^^^^^

blazing ivy Nov 21, 2018, 9:28 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident

Corrupted Blood incident

The Corrupted Blood incident was a virtual pandemic in the MMORPG World of Warcraft, which began on September 13, 2005, and lasted for one week. The epidemic began with the introduction of the new raid Zul'Gurub and its end boss Hakkar the Soulflayer. When confronted and atta...

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Let's hope this happens again for the sake of Classic

bright root Nov 22, 2018, 4:42 AM

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No way.. In 1.12 its already fixed stuff

oblique folio Nov 22, 2018, 12:16 PM

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yup

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noneof the buggy stuff that broke the game

shy linden Nov 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I do hope they give a nod to all these things as in game events though

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like random words spelled out in corpses in org and a simulated blood plague that maybe doesnt kill everybody but still spreads

cerulean briar Nov 22, 2018, 10:17 PM

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no

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changes

abstract copper Dec 3, 2018, 7:53 AM

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There will not be any changes

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well... mostly

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but it will be 1.12

void moss Dec 5, 2018, 4:59 AM

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oh im sure blizzard will add a cash shop on classic just like retail in alater patch of course

maiden river Dec 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

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🤔

cerulean hull Dec 6, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Troll

meager cape Dec 8, 2018, 8:37 AM

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are there any mods/addons out there that change the textures?

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personally i'd prefer the updates models and such

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updated

frigid fractal Dec 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Modifying game files is against EULA

meager cape Dec 8, 2018, 12:08 PM

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how is that any different from mods?

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well addons

oblique folio Dec 8, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Addons don't modify the game files

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they add onto it.

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You can't get an addon to say change an armor piece.

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You can only get an addon that gives you a timer that's only as accurate as the developer made it.

meager cape Dec 8, 2018, 2:00 PM

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alright

frigid fractal Dec 12, 2018, 6:15 AM

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@hidden sand keep a polite tongue. Thanks.

maiden river Dec 13, 2018, 3:27 PM

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@blazing ivy I want that to happen again in Retail WoW. XD

shadow flax Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Didn't the devs suggest we were (at some point) going to get the Undead Plague, which was ofc the pre launch to Naxx?

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Or am i thinking of the Scourge Invasion....

oblique folio Dec 14, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Nope. They never suggested what events we would get though they were discussing what to do for them internally

cerulean hull Dec 14, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Yes we’re getting the Opening of the Gates of AQ, Ion specifically mentioned that in his presentation. On the slides for their proposed content releases, the last stage specifically states Scourge Invasion and Naxx.

fickle scroll Dec 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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#classic-wow

📎 image0.jpg

oblique folio Dec 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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That's not vanilla

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Thats wotlk

grizzled juniper Dec 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Hah

fickle scroll Dec 14, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Oh I’m sorry looks like ice cream to me

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I’m excited to see how much is rose colored goggles and how much is actual desire

oblique folio Dec 14, 2018, 8:51 PM

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It literally says "World of Warcraft Wrath of the Lich King" at the top.

civic steppe Dec 14, 2018, 8:57 PM

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r/whoosh

bright root Dec 15, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Luwl

soft summit Dec 16, 2018, 1:31 AM

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hmm..

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warrior or death knight

fair karma Dec 16, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Death Knight