#classic-wow
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And how fast you kill things/complete quests is entirely dependent on your own skill/competence at a class
They won't be in classic though.
Ok
What
Alliance exclusively had paladins. Horde exclusively had shamans.
I don't think sub-races are gonna be classic.
Warriors were the best tanks.
Ya
Druids were awful, for the most part.
Which also sucked, but it didn't get that much better. All Horde gets are cows and anorexic metrosexuals
Only ogs remember the time when u had to make or buy ur own bullets and arrows as a hunter
ill most likely play a warlock
Stuns were ridiculously OP and rogues had the best stuns.
or hunter
You also kept them in an ammo bag.
Hunter can be really op and fun with the right keybind set
You also had to have a sword for when you went into melee range.
You couldn't shoot if you were closer than 5 yards.
Goku if u have a gaming mouse with 2 side buttons i can give u my keybind set
How long have u all been playing for?
Iv been 10 years
I am at 15 years now.
I came in at the end. I didn't max level though, till Wrath.
Was that 15 years? Dang I am trying to remember back.
Idk at this point
Okay, so I have played for 13 years. I thought that vanilla came out two years before it did.
Dang the end of vanilla was 11 years ago, so 12ish years ago. I can't count right now.
After Battle for Azeroth?
Ya
I don't think so, but okay.
@dire pendant that moment when wow is 13 years old,and you played 15 đ¤
XD
I fixed it @hexed finch, thanks though.
Tbc reales in 2007
Its 2018
10 years for me still
Alright im off
See u guys later
still 13 and a half,until its birthday
Same diff
@serene siren the person who made that is going to be disappointed no matter what Blizzard releases.
Why does it matter in what order things go?
Idk
Did I imagine priests using feathers for stam buff?
Feathers were for Levitate. Fortitude used candles
That's it! Candles I remember using something like that. How long ago was that now?
Im pretty sure that i still used feathers for slow fall on my mage till the end of wrath, dont remember other classes. But it did make sense to me, i mean typically reagents are needed for spells
I recall farming feathers for levitate. Also making sure I always had candles. I thought I'd imagined it, so long ago now. I still have my old quiver bag on my hunter, though now it can carry everything.
I only really played a hunter and a priest. I didn't start with other classes till a lot later on. Wondering if they'll bring these item requirements back for the buffs?
Well im sure they will have them in for classic yes
Looking forward to that :)
Any clue when classic is suppose to be released?
Most, if not all, buffs lost their resource requirements after Wrath.
Prob end of this year or next year...
Seeds, symbols candles are only for the greater buffs
Which can be bought
Levitate, feather fall, water walking and water breathing requires reagents that comes from mobs
Classic spells are dripping with flavor
Ritual of doom for example
you can use the inky black potion
Yeah but that makes all the skies the same
I dumped a few thousand on inky black pots and I have them up almost all the time when it's night. Not the same as classic, true, but it's a nice atmosphere
#classic-wowHypeIsGone
'Cuz no new info... when there will be something new, it will blow up again.
I kno I kno
How do you guys think they'll deliver Classic?
One time payment? Comes with a monthly sub?
In the current monthly sub as an optional realm...
do you think there will be additional non vanilla content added such as some of the newer races added later on? or barber shop or even if you recall the dual spec feature?
dual spec or new races will not be there
it supposed to be vanilla not live
but i dont see how barber shop would be an issue
Well thatâs odd
Dual spec is completely out of the question for you, but oh, barber shop is no problem
A future update is a future update, no matter what it is
Youâre either for or against them
Or youâre like me, I wouldnât mind some small updates, as long as itâs what the community wants
I donât get all these nochanges crowd I play since 2005 and god damn playing without barber shop is a nogo I remember making my mage gnome and I hated her hair but no way to change because there wasnât even a way to pay for it. I made a new char just because it bothered me so much lol
Making a new main in vanilla was a pain to refarm all the res gear etc just for a hair style đ¤Ł
Same with transmog I used to modify files and it was pretty annoying to do that just to change gear how I wanted, such simple features are great and I had to wait long for that
If I put myself back to vanilla I would be in the same situation as I was in 2005 âman starting a gnome was such a fail why canât I race changeâ âdamn these hair are even more annyoing why canât I change thatâ âmy new BIS chest looks so stupid letâs wear the worse oneâ
Vanilla was great gameplay wise but feature wise everyone complained so why go back to that and not just get vanilla CONTENT with good features they added after
I second that
I mean, I didnât play vanilla, but your argument makes sense
Idk if all these people see vanilla with nostalgic glasses or something sure I donât complained about content like raids because it was awesome but hell I hated so many features we didnât had
Everyone complained to not have dual spec and now people saying they donât want it, thatâs some weird shit going on đ
I also remember my guildies hated it to change T2 for resistance gear because they looked really stupid with it but now people donât want transmog, thatâs beyond my understanding
Also another issue was the fights were hecking ridiculous if you had no communication, majority of the groups wouldn't even make it past the first boss (Which I assume the ingame vc they're implementing will aid with that)
from the last 15 posts, it doesn't seem like classic was very good
It was alright for what it was at the time
Vanilla is not for everyone... the people that are thinking i cant play without dual spec or barber shop etc.... prob never got far in the game and did not get why the systems were like that. Sure some were pure tech limitations, but most were not needed and that was intended.
Having no transmog made you stand out for your achivements of being good and getting that gear. No name change, race change etc were so that other people knew who you were on the realm. Sure barber shop is not a big deal, but if you care more about hair that is actually covered up by armor and not the intrecacies of the gameplay... i think vanilla was not for you and you kinda missed its point.
But o well... different people have different tastes. All good... diff games for diff people. Its going to be good being able to choose the version each likes of wow.
Hope if classic is a success they release eventually a tbc and wrath realm.
Not having dual spec and costing alot of gold to respec constantly was a way of telling you that farming gold was a need not an option... thinking good and hard about those talent points was a must if you didnt have any gold. Vanilla as most mmos back them were a grind fest by designed and it showed that in most systems it had and did not have.
Im not saying some systems were good, some were bad, but that the over all systems put together is what made the game good. You cant really single out one or two systems, cuz alot they dont make sense, but when put together with the rest of them they work just fine.
Erm sorry but that is your opinion I raided till mid AQ 40 and I still donât like it that we werenât able to race change or transmog, wearing the same sets forever was just boring, ye you saw someoneâs progress by simply looking at his gear but whatever I never cared about I just wanted to costumize my gear, just because someone played vanilla doesnât mean they need to like everything back than, I liked a few things like the need of travel and no LFG etc but I sure donât liked the missing barber or transmog and god the pvp rank system was Aweful
Not to forget running around with full set and only missing the shoulders because of bad luck looking stupid as hell đ
Ok... i understand you didnt like the no race change, but do you actually know why this was intended? Because in vanilla there were specific class race spells,ex dwarf priest fear ward. And being able to race change would be bad because of that. People would race change to that specific class race for that, and thus retracting from the uniqueness of those combinations. If you wanted it you needed to reroll or deal with your shortcomings some other way. Race change was introduced when thos spells and racials were tone down. Same with dual spec... so point to hide it behind a gold respec wall since gold in wrath was so easy to get.
That was my point... dont take one system alone, cuz it does not make sense alone... but with the other systems you see why it was made like that
no point*
Only thing I wanna say with that is that I hate that #nochange entitle thing because these people arenât the only one allowed saying what they want and werenât the only one playing vanilla I pay sub since 2005 and my opinion matters the same as everyone else so I understand people to want Changes or features but I also understand people who want certain features and we should respect both
Sure... i dont deny that.
But i am pointing out that vanilla was not a bad game when taken as a whole.
Thats why changes could hurt the overall game
And ye I know racials etc. But still sticking with my gnome wasnât a good experience because style and Mogs matters alot to me and putting me back MONTHS of progress for switching only a race wasnât very fun it was stupid
Word wall alert
yeah... cuz that's how you explain a point.. not just call it stupid or great and thats it.
I think I made my point clear, Iâm a vanilla player and I hated many missing features back than, and many other people and friends did too. While others liked it without any changes. Iâm ok with both since I wonât play classic server without these features and even with these features I wouldnât play it because I donât like to stuck with content forever so
well sorry to say and no offense.. but you are the problem with the classic forums voices that are out there right now, and could skew blizzards view on the old game. people that won't play it anyway, but want to change it. why try to change something that won't affect you in any way? why are these people even discussing it to begin with if they have no intention of taking part in it? that's what i don't understand.
sure there were bad parts and good parts about the game... but why chime in if you have to interest in experiencing it again anyway? and even more so... expect those things to change and support it?
anyway.. that's my 2 cents. what happens happens, only blizz knows what coming. i just hope its good.
whats*
no interest*
There are people in the forums getting roflstomped and hated with #nochange posts when they suggesting adding features that werenât in vanilla back in the day. But these people forget that they are not the only one who wants to play classic and #nochange isnât something everyone will be pleased with who wants to play classic and they are not right with their opinion, there is no right or wrong because classic isnât vanilla itâs something blizzard is going to make and be sure itâs not completely vanilla there will be changes and everyone needs to adapt and If i want to say what i think about it Iâm definitely allowed to say it, because maybe one day i wanna try it out and as long as there is no additional sub for it everyone is also paying for that classic servers
why try to change something that won't affect you in any way?
this coming from someone who is hard-core a vanilla-fetishiser? Why try to change the main game back to how it was when playing the main game and enjoying it won't affect you in any way?
when did i say i want to change the main game back to the old one?? i said dont change the old one... having two separate, different games(and i enjoy both to be clear, legion was/is awesome) is not a bad thing. i never said change one of the other... please stop going off on your own ideas thinking thats what i said and try to understand what i actually say. - that was for edgytroll.. and btw.. wtf is fetishiser, are you inventing words on the spot or is this some obscure new weird term?
and as for shada's answer... you just said before that you dont want to play classic if it does not change things and will not play it anyway(even if they change it) cuz it has a finite line of content(you just said that, do you want me to quote you?, just scroll and read your own reply again please)... and now you say, hey i want change cuz maybe who knows when, even for a sec i want to try it... it needs to suit me and my needs?... really??!?!? are you seriously telling me that? you are contradicting yourself right there. That's why i was asking, why would you even care so much about something, you clearly pointed out, you actually dont intend to play. sure everyone has opinions and by all mean express them... but be ok if they dont actually happen and respect people that want things to stay as they were.(these things go both ways) i dont care frankly about those people that you talk about that slam people for talking about things... you are talking to me now, and i think i pointed my thinking out in a clear and polite manner in my previous messages, and if it did not seem so, i apologize, that was not intended. make a difference between a holes and people that try to have a normal debate and dont group people up just for the sake of being against something.
and lets be clear... i did not start this conversation trying to get in a verbal fight with anyone.. i was just pointing out the things that vanilla had in a clear and descriptive way. you are the ones that skyrocketed it out of control thinking that i am the same as some a holes that you have had bad interactions with before. even so, i apologize and take my leave. this is not worth my time if we cannot have a civilized conversation.
Vanilla is cool.
Temperature seems to have risen in this channel significantly
It would be great if people had understanding and civil discussions about what I am sure most of us love (in one form or another)
I just wanna go back to old darkshore tbh
It's one of those thing I knew was going to happen as soon as they announced Classic Servers.
pretty much confirming the whole "you think you do, but you don't" comment.
Old Darkshore or old southshore? Because both were pretty meh imho
I just wanna go back to everyone being friends.
We basically did that at the beginning of Legion
Hereâs my opinion I played then it was great memoryâs for myself but would I want to re do the exact same thing no I would like to have some of the quality of life change improvements that were added later im a avid collector of achives mounts and pets and toys it would be nice if we had some ways of doing things better then how it was back then soo many people looking thru their tinted glasses
Just donât see the larger picture times have changed the player audience has aswell wich blizzard knows
They must adapt and evolve to this
Sure, thats very true, some people changed and how they enjoy the game changed with that. But isnt the current wow satisfying that need for you? Its the most robust system to support those things that you want... why do you need another version of the same thing that will most likely not even come close to the detail that is in the current version, if it does get implemented in classic?
At the same time... some people did not change and want that old style. What do you think blizz would realistically do? Make two diff games to satisfy both groups of people and get more people to subscribe, or make a mish mash of the same game again and hurt both groups, cuz people that want the old style wont play it, and the people that do like the new style already have the current wow that is way more detailed and flushed out in those specific things that you wanted.
I belive blizz is only doing classic because a lot of the private realms are corrupt and make profits off their game so why donât they just do classic them selfs and profit tho they have to appeal the widest possible audience with it not cater to a small crowd in the end of the day its all $$$ what will bring in the most revenue
All companyâs need to make a profit
One of the problems with classic was how it was designed tho youâll have people complain if it was exactly how it was in the past soo many classes not viable too hard for players now a days too much grind too much effort required to raid of what ever people will complain aways on the other end youâll have people say itâs not hard and what not but in the end it comes down to whatâs best for them profit wise Iâm pretty much completely shure there will be changes to what it once was just so they can âappealâ to a wider audience. A lot of the old players wonât have time to invest in classic cause they have grown up more have jobs and lives or even play and raid on live there are soo many possible factors for things the company must think of
I as well very much think that blizz wants to bring the players from private servers to an official realm to fix a problem of corruption and theft that most people had with buying gold as well, thus the wow token. but i do not think they will be able to attract those people from private servers that try to be as close to the old game as possible with a version that is no where near to what it was back then. do you understand what i'm trying to say? they will lose money if they stray away from what it was, not make money(they already invested money in making classic, if they dont attract any player, they lose even more). they are making money with new features now with the current wow... most players like it and keep playing it. the ones that dont like it, stopped completely and are thus not a source of income for blizz. they are the target people they want to attract... that's how they would make money, get that other market share that they lost to private servers or not liking the current wow to come back. at least from my point of view. like this they would have 2 sources of income. i think they will actually lose money if they make a mish mash of it for the reasons i pointed out before.
A similar example are from softwares games. most people hate how difficult and unforgiving demon's souls, dark souls games are and they will never play these games. but focusing on this small margin of players that like very hard brutal unforgiving playstyle they are very successful. they have made a sure franchise out of it, by not catering to the majority of player types. See what i mean?? by focusing on a specific thing and make it good you will have a big success with that target audience. if you make if too broad you might lose alot of players instead of actually being successful. that's what i think blizz is trying to do with classic. attract that part of the player base that like those types of archaic slow grindy systems, as well as satisfy the needs of the majority of players with the current wow.
Tho there is a point where the audience becomes so small that itâs not worth the effort
It will be huge at the start then die off slowly thinking long term are they going for releaseing content progressively or haveing it all out at the start will they continue with the next expac and so on thereâs a lot of possibilityâs that can be done with classic. Is it worth it to me to play Maybee in a verry small scale unless thereâs achievements or things you can attain for live then thatâs a different ball of wax I think classic can be a big success or a big failure depending on what it done how it is done and managed so on so on I understand booth angles I just am giving g my opinion there still will be those private realms aways
Tho some things need tweaking classic did have several fundamental flaws
And wasnât that polished off
Duo spec ok thatâs fine tho if they keep it how it was well look at what classes were most viable shaman gear and pally gear does raid and only shaman teir and your alliance well too bad
Bag space full cause mounts and pets too bad
Some progressive and I think non damageing things could be done to change it
Mount and pet journal thatâs fine I think doesnât really impact things too much just for the sake of bag space
Tweaks to boss drops to make it better could be a good improvement then haveing gear no one can use
But thatâs what I think
don't talk smack about Old Darkshore đ
Idk man. Itâs either classic or itâs not. Black or white no Grey areas.
As someone stated, itâs âvanillaâ
Vanilla with chocolate chips and caramel sauce ainât vanilla
But neither is ice cream when it sits for 10 years
^
classic wow confirmed release next week
sweet. I'll tell CNN
Lemme hit up WSJ
Already sent it to FOX , ABC, and CBS......
Why woild they release it next wk
ahhhh yep...
Why not? Bring it out, let people get sick of it before BFA. Gives them what? 6-7months?
Let numbers go up further with the release of classic build up this massive player base of people who played vanilla and then when BFA is out by then most people would be a bit sick of it (Pvp servers I'd assume.) And then come over to BFA for some less then balanced pvp because kids and others are sick of being trashed on in it.
As for PVE people might get sick of it cause everyone will require so much more since it's technically old content so getting into raids or anything else will be kind of a bitch. Which tbh is great don't ever add LFR EVER.
In a way it is old content, but it wouldnât be old content at that point, it was so much more different than it is now.
Quest were different, zones are hella different, raiding wise youâd be progressing through like normal
all the old eastern kingdoms & kalimdor would be new content for those that joined post cata, with no help it would be super hard mode lol
@split peak Asking for gold isn't allowed, sorry.
Someone say gold
owo
Say "wow token" when trying to buy gold... should be fine... but shhhh dont tell anyone else
I mean you can literally buy gold if you wanna get technical about it.
Back in my day, tokens were it 60k
Aren't they like 20$ for 200k now lol
Might be, all I know is that they're âŹ20 for 300k on EU
I wouldn't know because I abide by Blizzards rules
Wow Tokens are sold by blizzard :P
WoW Tokens sold by Blizzard... or BlĂzzard?
pÉšÉzzá´lq obviously
obviously.
Last I checked on Archimonde (two months ago) wow tokens we're 180k
*were
For US Servers
320k eu...
Jesus
189,718 currently on WA
I dunno what caused the last surge
even after the hearthstone announcement died down, they went back to 179-ish, then all the sudden they went back up to 190k and stopped there for NA
when does classic come out?
No one knows when... when its done probably... they have just 5 people working on it for now
At least thats whats leaked/rumoured
it's coming out in 3018
sounds about right
3018? how generous. My best bet is 4000 at earliest.
We probably won't see it unless they HAVE to push back BFA by some chance otherwise we won't see it until like mid to late BFA when they run out of things to add
why would they have to push back BFA?
Maybe they dont have it finished? Maybe they haven't touched up certain things so they push it back a bit further? Many reasons could come up.
they've already set forth a release date.
if they don't release something relating to BFA by that day, Blizzard's PR is gonna get a shit-ton of shit
classic and BFA release dates are not related
if BFA gets "pushed back" (despite having a far-away latest release date), they don't owe us classic.
they owe us BFA.
people preordered it, they did not preorder classic.
"Blizzard's PR is gonna get a shit-ton of shit"
exactly. releasing classic wouldn't help, it's basically a different game.
BFA got pushed forwards.
Into August.
So I'm excited.
But Classic isn't anywhere near over the horizon, so I'm fine with the hype for it dying down until a release date is scheduled and announced.
When was BFA originally? Sept?
on the box it said "absolute latest date of release"
sept 21
legion also had sept release and it ended up with august 30
CLassic wil for sure be 2019, maybe early 2020 in a drought of BFA
we will have to see though, we dont even know if they have started yet as they are still hiring.
im guessing we will see more of it during blizzcon
but the main focus wll be on bfa
and then its gonna be one of the main things in 2019 blizcon
I think late 2019 would be too late
More like mid 2019, most likely late 2019, but not november late
So they're probably going to talk about it during 2018 blizzcon quite a bit
Then again, if BFA alpha hinders any classic work, then i could see it being big at 2019 blizzcon
how would people feel about spawn rates of quest mobs being increased to a more frequent level?
Personally, I'm all for some of the QoL additions such as adjust respawn rates & aoe looting.
Don't care, as long as leveling is hard and combat is slow
leveling wasn't hard in vanilla, it just took months
Or a week if you no life it
Which I will most likely do when it comes out
Unsure about what class though. Hunter or Paladin
So leveling in retail is harder than vanilla right now? Please...
Sure, it wasnt hard compared to previous mmos, but that is not the benchmark
The benchmark is retail vs vanilla, and vanilla were a lot harder, and slower, in the leveling department
yea,that statement is so stupid
classic enthusiasts, I may be a bit ignorant, but are there news if classic will be pay once, free to play, separated sub, or linked to the active live account sub?
@maiden river you are so wrong. Unlimited mana for example lowers the difficult.
how? just drink and the mana comes back
you're mistaking preparations as difficulty
By that reason, no game is difficult. Ita all in time invested and repeatability
yeah. that is what i'm saying. Repeat till success.
That means Dark Souls is a pretty easy game
Haha
dark souls can be an easy game if you play long enough/know the patterns of the bosses
all you need to do to beat dark souls: Watch a video of the boss and memorize patterns
What you are describing is every single game
am i wrong?
you know what makes dark souls easier?
time
you know what makes classic wow "difficult" for you?
the longevity of leveling
it's not hard. Just long
every single game is long? nah i dont think so
No, every single game is ridiculously easy because it's all about time invested
ok i have a question.
According to you
is xenoblade chronicles hard because it takes a long time to level through many quests?
better yet, why is Classic hard?
tell me why classic leveling is hard
I never played it, but it depends on how easy it is to get killed
i have played it.
i can tell you, it ain't hard
pulling one mob at a time isn't difficult
healing between pulls isn't difficult
It sounds so easy until you get caught in a cluster of mobs
that's your fault
Trogg cave in Loch Modan for example
you can die in current right now if you pull a cluster of mobs
what makes it so different?
Yeah you die if you pull 7-10 mobs nowadays, which is a skill in itself cobsidering how sparsely clustered they are
right now, if you go to the kobold mines in alliance, you will get killed if you pull 3-4 which you very easily can do
of course if you're the appropriate level for the area
go try it out.
how would you know how it used to be? you never played vanilla.
you said so yourself
I played vanilla in 2005 and I played vanilla a year ago
then why'd you say you didn't play it?
Xenoblade something something
ohhhh you meant xenoblade
okay my bad
anyways, back to the main point of difficulty. It isn't hard to progress in vanilla. Watch your surroundings and kill one by one and it's smooth sailing. What isn't smooth sailing is the spawn rates of quest mobs and quest items. See a group? Wait till they move away from each other. It's moreso a test of patience rather than difficulty and greatly depends on what kind of class you're playing too.
You are once again describing every single game
That ever existed
Im not saying vanilla leveling in a vacuum is hard, but compared to retail and many post-wow mmos you will die a lot more.
Nerds
U R!
@maiden river I pull like 7-8 mobs on my arms warrior when leveling, 3-4 is cake.
i plan on making a paladin for classic they are and always will be godmode
I wanna go lock
Same...pala power
Then a rogue alt for sure
Mage maybe after cuz aoe grinding is fast
i want to try enchanting at 60... just sitting in IF and spamming "enchanting free with your mats... tips welcomed"... and make stacks of money just by afking
will take alot of farming the recipes... but thing it will be worth it.
had a pala friend to got his 12k g for sulfuras hammer in 2-3 weeks with that
but had a mage ah shark who had fat stacks of gold just by sitting in IF and AH sniping
for each their own i guess
a mage friend in the guild*
while i was pickpocketing brd mobs to get 100g... sad panda đŚ
when dire maul drops... quel'serrar quest item book farm is good source of money as a pala
lol
yeah.. for the mullaaaa... big stacks of cash.. moneyesssss :d
Mainly hunter cause of the legendary questline. Afterwards I'll do Paladin
I'm a sucker for solo challenges
Oooh the Hunter challenge
Hardly a challenge now that itâs been 14 years since its release.
hi
Hai
What hunter challenge is it you guys are referring to?? It rings a bell but I can't find anything about it other than the hunter challenge for legion lol
(The one that's 14 years old at this point)
Sweet! Thanks!
i forgot this was the classic channel
because all those weapons have ben removed during the years
How are you guys farming for those weapons? Or am I reading this wrong?
@sharp grove it's a legendary bow you can earn after getting a drop from a specific boss from molten core. It's a large questline that requires you to solo kill 4 demons all across the world. Each demon has a mechanic/gimmick. The bow may not be the best for hunter but it shows that you have mastery over the class
Plus itâs good if youâre just hitting 60, and considering how all the gimmicks can be found online, itâs very easy to complete.
I recommend trying it out before researching it.
Well you can't do it when you hit 60 since you need the item from molten core to even do it
Ahhh is that true?
Well if you have a shit weapon even though you somehow got yourself an MC group and managed to get this item, give the challenge a shot.
you need it from 2nd to last boss too
And this MC group managed to do a full clear
most will not be able to do mc as soon as hitting 60... you need to farm pre raid gear for sure
unless you have a very good group.. its very hard... cuz most trash mobs have kinda big and fast dps need. the fire elementals that spawn little ones... those will overwhelm you if you dont have enough dps
yeah, there's the whole thing of farming trash like core hounds for the leather and trying to get early dark iron ore and whatnot
and if you are unlucky to hate 2 of those at the same time... ooo man... its a wipe for sure on your first runs
yupp
have*
I think before we even took down Lucifron, we farmed like 2 weeks to get a few people (at least tanks) some FR gear
if will take a while to get those quest items... cuz its not 100% drop chance anyway.. and if you have 3 hunters or more... ouch.. roll for luck
I will have to say this, as much of a purist for classic as I am
I wouldn't say no to them having more than 2 drops off each boss
because 40 people with 2 drops was the WORST
yup... the before having pre raid bis trash mc farming for off tier pieces.. :))
you will get loot pretty fast though... and they are not super masive upgrades anyway.. so you wont see that much of a dif by slowly getting gear.. then getting it faster.. plus the content lasts longer like that
yeah, but it was just a nightmare, especially since I loathed DKP
i like dkpp
so waiting like 30 minutes for people to stop moaning and screaming because "they deserve it more than this person"
yeah, I quit raiding for a while because the group I ran with decided to do DKP
and I'm like "nope, have fun. not doing that shit"
Yeah. Raid loot in classic requires a motorcycle of trust. And I sure as hell grew to distrust many
Dw
If you ninja loot and call them out in global
Youâll be called out for a snitch
haha, back then, people had a blacklist on each of their realm forums of who to not invite to groups for that reason. Then Blizzard started the whole no public name-shaming
The rage there will be when ninjas strike... gonna be epic đ twitter blowup forum meltdown
But yeah... ignore list will have a true meaning again
@maiden river No, it's a bad thing. We used to call out the ninjas and keep them on blacklists, but now you just look like a cuck if you call anybody out for it.
I meant private servers.
Really?... i played on nost and elysium at start and ninjas were pretty avoided after knowing about them.
Really?
Huh
Maybe the Lights Hope community is different
Or maybe World Chat's just trolling
world chat is always trolling... :))
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No, flying will be amazing
and you know what
Classic servers will make new players understand that "No Flying" is amazing in the out door open world
Remember still in Strangelthorn vale... where 40 raiders ran passed by me while I was leveling... that feeling
I remember
I was in Gadgetzan.
A LEGION of Hordes, level 60, ran in.
Mind you, I'm a leveling Alliance player.
They ONLY kill me.
Then they exit the city.
As if nothing happened.
ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
And guards did not attack them? The goblins are on the horde side since vanilla... "neutral faction"
No the guards attacked
Itâs just
They were a raid group
So the guards were similar to fleas in the matter that they did hardly anything
I see :))
Oml
Iâm so hyped for classic
Just saw some old school 1vX mage pvp vids
Well
Not really old school since itâs not Pom pyro
Itâs a private server but it is Vanilla
Me, a hyped nightborne boi, hearing of how mages are not going to be obsolete in a blizzard game for a short while
Can not wait for Classic
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Every pvp video I see is just so invigorating.
Where are classic server?
not out yet
@cyan laurel No sharing/discussing or directing people to private servers here. Thanks.
Your welcome
I've never played classic, i joined wow back in the middle of warlords, so im pretty interested to see it
It will be totally dif from current wow... expect to be looking for answers to the quests in the quest text and not on the map first of all. Classic is way more stingy on ui and funtionality of the ui. Addons will be needed even to quest.
And expect to not have enough gold to learn all your spell abilities.
And getting a mount will be hard.
Hi dads
And quests hubs are not so straitforward... you will need to find them yourself, the game will not tell you where they are usually.
you needed an addon called carbonite to show quests on the actual map
With that... hang in there until 60
Get Quest Completion to mark all the quests
If you hate addons like Carbonite that overhaul the entire map
We dont know what api classic will have... aka most likely addon will need to be updated or remade. So dont go searching for addons now... its pointless
I'm curious if the addons used back then will be able to be used now
Most likely not cuz of new client
And if twitch will incorporate addons for the game as well
And one more thing... classic is more based on people interacting... so if you dont know how to finish a quest or have troubles with an elite just ask for help in general chat... people will wisp advise or even inv to groups to help
The game really depends on interations
Otherwise its very frustrating
Its more hard, but every step in progress your toons feels good.. Not like retail now, like a cake walk, but true exp char or learn how play in classic..
Btw any thoughs about f2p "started" will be also in classic or not?
f2p "started"??? what is that?
what do you mean?
in vanilla time there were no started editions.. there was a free 14 days trial account
if thats what your refering to
you're*
@idle kite yop,i mean "starter account".. If they make old one or implemented todays model..
But still it have lot of disadvantage.. Lvl 20 gear + just prof till 100,no trade/AH/mail/10gold cap etc (+ no account binded thinks and colection like a now) VERSUS regular 29 twinks with powerfull enchants and more quality gear and stats.. Only plus is "stay with locked exp without fear ding next level and lose all work and investment"
Mb pvE events made by players, wPvP in right zones will be satisfacting
10g cap? it 2g i couldn't go further than 3 last night before i resub lol
@tired pagoda It was 7 days ( at least here in europe ) and it was a code found inside the box. đ
Yeah it was a code with a picture of that dwarf flying on a gryphon
i have tons of them at home
I read almost every single one of the vanilla quest texts while playing, but there were still times I had to check thottbot to understand the completion requirements
I'm honestly not sure if the experience will be the same... there's pretty much complete info on everything, now, that wasn't available then
It definitely wont be the same
Mankrik wife location can be looked up easily so rip that meme
still gonna ask it. And keep Chuck Norris alive
@maiden river did you actually read what i said above from the beginning? I said read the q text and if still you dont know ask in chat. I guess scrolling above a few lines is too damn much for some.
idc
Any set date for classic yet
no
November 23, 2004.
jokester sas,as always


Yall mind if i STEAL MEMES?

But seriously, I woke up to the classic announcement and have been craving the sweet vanilla ever since
been awfully quiet about classic
well we still have a long way to the release most likely... so news would prob come around gamescom/blizzcon. really dont think anything closer then that
they need manly a way to ease server usage on a non crossrealm server... and back then at normal capacity it crashed alot. sure alot of progress since then, but still... finding a solution and coding it to the blizz standard thats time
they def dont want a ahn'qiraj problem again like back in the day... or launch months of lag fest cuz of everyone is in the same area
they prob have a relatively small team as well.. 5 people, maybe 10 with just a few main roll coders. will take at least half a year to have a prototype... then rewrite to have clear code... stress it.. find bugs.. fix them.. .rewrite.
coding sucks and takes time
cuz they cant really rely on current wow systems
i can see that those things takes time. but would be interesting to know about stuff that are more in the line of were stuff will be heading. for instance regarding future expansions, models etc
these are things they should be able to plan without considering technology
sure... but until they have a stable server... they are not even thinking of spells... numbers.. raids.. quests etc
so... prob they dont know yet
i think blizz does not want to talk about anything prematurely cuz it might backfire on them if they dont go that way later on down the line
pointing at Titan
was announced before anything concrete was done... and it was canceled in the end.
but yeah.. im there with you and everyone else thats interested in classic. news would be nice and needed. but cant do anything about it really... its done when its done.
đ
the only good news possible : No changes and it starts tomorrow
@valid kindle hi
U can if u accept private servers :D
Not really... the server code is not blizzards at all... but because its for an ip of blizzards they can bring them to court, but not for code stealing, for ip protection.
Private servers are made from scratch to emulate official servers with no code from blizz.
Thats why console emulators are legal as well... until you play the actual games that are copywrited material.
But private servers have their own problems with bugs, latency, corrupt leadership, risk of loosing all your progress... so i very much understand waiting for an oficial release.
No sharing/discussing or directing people to private servers here. Thanks đ
Sure... no problem đ
Something a little different I'll hopefully be adopting a more regular update schedule soon, as I have many projects I want to work on, so if you aren't subs...
How fuckn delayed
đ
She loved Fishing
And snnow
and pvp
So
We bought pvp to the funeral
And killed all the attendants
/bow
/cleartarget
/mourn
You will be missed sorely
Serenity now, Out.
is this game like dnd
@dim mulch yes
well technically any RPG is like dnd... soooo.. yeah.
In some ways yeah
What's dnd?
that is a very weird question to ask for an internet user
Is a type of game?
Dungeons and Dragons online
the online part is not necessary
Ouch okay merci!
i dont think it is a good idea to return old "native" Classic servers...
mb the whole idea is good, but... old graphics?
old graphics
that sux (
not so long ago i tried my first mmorpg... i realized how aweful it was
laggy, buggy... and really aweful graphics
game of 2001...
i'm afraid i'll feel the same when i'll try classic wow (
well,if you cannot enjoy yourself without having "uh look at these gud graphics" then I don't think classic is for you
it is problem for me to change game from "ok, it has problems, but it is still good" to "meeeeh i already seen it before... it was interesting at school but not anymore after 14 years. at least it looked better"
i remember mechanics, i remember grind, mb i even want to try it again but...
i personally played classic back in the day,and surely loved it,but i clearly wouldnt do it again
the grind was enough the first time
i played classic at 2005 when i was 15, that was really awesome but i knw that after i got a lot of other exp in wow and other games it wont feel like it was at that time (
Then move along nothing to see here đ
wanna see more news about classic servers and find smth that will make me say - i was wrong! it is still the best part of this game
@odd pecan The graphics aren't all that bad back then.
Since the aesthetic is still there.
that is true, but graphics it the first thing that you meet in game
then you meet basic mechanics, than some lore, than some new mechanics and some new animations...
Yes, you will see far less polygons, but again, the aesthetic is what is important. And to me, I have more fun looking at Vanilla WoW than I do in the current state of the game.
I agree, the graphical state of the game is much lower in Vanilla.
But it's not disgusting like other older MMOs.
I mean, eh. They looked really good.
2004 was oldschool run escape time
But back then, WoW was meant for any gamer.
Nothing high-end.
And tbh that was the best thing about it.
It looked good and ran good.
Sorta
You had crashes and such but still, the game was targeting the casual audience I guess is my point.
Those who have cheaper toasters than today's battlestations.
Obviously not the case anymore :(
you can run vanilla on an actual toaster
Yeye
It's a more recent thing they're doing but
It sucks their big selling point has kinda left.
Then again
It's not really their selling point anymore.
Yeah, but it's still hardly playable.
You're not going to be able to do high end content with a weaker computer.
It'll just explode.
Although yes, you can run the game.
Time for diging old toaster from basement for raiding with 5fps.. Weee, i miss these days :D
lmao I'd actually love to play Classic on a toaster if I got the chance.
Just to see what it was like.
Make love not warcraft have answer for ya :D
they will 100% optimize the new classic client to work on todays hardware... so use multiple cpu cores... gpu capabilities and shaders(will probably use newer shadow tech). if you play old wow on todays computers it runs like shit(if you have a lower clock cpu aka 2.5ghz to 4ghz),, on the other hard legion runs 60fps on low on ultrabooks cuz its optimized... so expect classic to be able to be run on "todays toasters" for sure.
True. In fact i played on 256mb GPU and 1.18ghz (one core) in past.. This MACHINE cant handle browsing net today
@odd pecan I guess that Blizz will add an option that you can do the Legion/BfA graphics.
I hope not
i hope they will
Well I guess they will @bright root, since the stuff we have right now when it comes to computers has changed ALOT since Vanilla
And maybe people want Legion graphics
And some want the old vanilla graphics
Yes, i agree, but it will mean (if they do it) remaster and not re-release
It will be a remaster never the less
And lot of work.. Bc just port models inna old core client isnt enough
For me looks this case as same hard work as doing guys who make SkyWind..
Yup
i hope they just optimize the new client and not update the graphics too much... especially not the new char models... have you seen how bad the old gear looks on the new char models???
I guess there is an option as I said before.
And what needs to be changed on the client? @idle kite
he means optimize it so it doesn't run at 20FPS on a GTX 1080
yeah... thats what i mean... to run well on modern hardware
Be a shame if classic did better than bfa O.o
i dont think it will
@hexed finch Agreed. A lot of people (including some of my friends) who are rather new to WoW, have no idea what Vanilla (and even TBC) was like. They say they want Classic, but I can already see...they will try it, and just go back to BFA IMO
it was a grindfest on the level of some current korean MMO's
yup. TBC was already quite a bit better, could quest all the way to 70 (instead of having to grind since there were too little quests), and even that they would quit, since it took extremely long, and big pulls = wipe
you needed to really earn everything you had
like druid forms
totems
demons
class mount
it surely was great fun,but i really wouldnt do it again,the grind was enough the first time
@barren bluff
God how I miss those things
The thing is, in vanilla my character had a huge value to me, every green or the rare blue or the remotely possible epic I managed to obtain was amazing. With retail I don't appreciate any of my characters, if I had something happen to them I don't know if I would even rise an eyebrow. One just steamrolls trough content and is gifted with sacks full of epics and legendaries, no feeling of anything earned. I for one am very pleased when classic releases đ
The biggest grind of my life was killing mobs in Vale of Eternal Blossoms for Skyshards
And I still only have 6 of them
Professions actually matters :)
There were always enough quests to finish lvling to 60... people just didnt know that they needed to switch between zones frequently. A lot of people just did the qs in the zones that they were in.. get to one that was way over the lvl they were, and instead of moving to a new zone to find the other quests that were apropriate.. they just grinded mobs to get to the lvl to do that q that they had
Some actually were ok with grinding like that cuz it was the standard in other mmos at that time
Most people do for ex as humans just the starting zone and then move to westfall... which is usually wrong...
cuz you will just do a few qs and get stuck. The ideal way is do starting zone and then move to dwarf starting zone and do that as well the do a few qs in lock modan and then westfall and back and and so on.
Each lvl range has a few zones for it..
@barren bluff
By the time you get to 60 you would probably have visited all of the zones... and that would be even better at max lvl... cuz you have all the flight points
Group quests as well, people avoided them and thus payed the price
Yup
True...I miss it as well. I didn't play Vanilla long before TBC released, so had/have way more experience in it. Even in TBC...the actual work you had to to achieve anything or get anything (Nether Drakes & Nether Rays) was amazing...so much more of an achievement to earn anything. Miss it too...the days when Tanks tanked, DPS DPS'ed and Healers healed đŚ
The days when tanks tanked. Dpz dps'd and healers healed. They still do that dude...
not in heroics
That's cause they're overgeared?
if anyone is overtaking anyone in a role, historically, it means that person's overgeared or the lower people are undergeared/bad
kinda common sense that
Well... i look forward to hybrids again... and weird talent specs that span all 3 trees... and people raging on the hybrid tax đ đ ... will be fun. "Reroll healer or kick" - remember this saying, you will hear it frequently đ
And the bluffing as a dps hybrid that you are actually a healer to get into a group and after roll on dps gear and blowing your cover đ
Aaaa let the good times roll
tbh I'm looking forward to shockadin being viable
@idle kite i had a hybrid feral dps/tank druid
which the only useful in raids spec of druid was resto
not because the other specs were undertuned
but because there literally was no gear
no tank gear was leather,as feral you had to steal the rogue's gear,and even then they were stronger because they could use the setbonus
all int leather gear was healer gear
Everyone steals the rogue gear... trust me i was a rogue
Warrs hunters druids
Even shamys and palas on some items
Cuz most rogue gear has hit
But of course... the 0.5 tier rogue set did not... so off to farm gear that everyone else wantsđ
Still remember loosing the rend swords to hunters and warrs...
Even so... rogues were always on top dps đ
fire mage was shit because molten core and blackwing lair all had fire resistance 
In frost we trust
An old mage saying
Look up the video on youtube to learn the ways of aoe frost grinding đŹ
also the itemization for all classes
was so utterly disgusting
that most classes didnt work because of not having items
like why would you put strenght on a cloth item
or agility on a plate item
etc
Agi on plate gives crit... dont think there were cloth with str though
But yeah... stats on gear was all over the place
it was so over the place
that they scrapped enhancement sham as a tank
because they couldnt make it work
with the gear
There were a few cloth items with strength but they were pre-50 items so they didn't matter
not really no
very good in pvp
and it is viable but not optimal in pve as well
as in.. warrs and rogues will always do more dps then you... but you bring things to the raid as a hybrid
so you will be middle of the road dps
and thats with putting in the extra time for buffs and potions... at the same time rogues will just out dps with the bare minimum buffs
but the point is... palas are usually there for buffs like kings might etc, so if you have other 4 palas healers maybe you get as a ret pala spot and they can bring one more priest which is better for overall group healing compared with pala healing which is more tank spam healing
so you have 2 palas on each tank.. thats 4 buffs.. and one ret with kings for the 5th buff and can get a priest for that healing spot which is a win
but you will most likely be the last to get gear cuz warrs will be geared first
gotcha thanks
then i guess paladin will be leveled at a later time and first will be hunter
main goal of classic: get the legendary bow
Its actually just an epic one... the first legendary bow is in tbc sunwell
But it is a sweet quest
Only legendaries in vanilla are thunderfury, sulfurons hammer, atiesh.
There is one more neck and mount but not really important
oh? i thought it was legendary
damn, guess you're right. Ah well, still a goal nonetheless
guys are the giveaways exclusive to USA?
nope
read the whole description
depends on the giveaway though.. but this is international
thanks
after looking at stuff from vanilla, i think i'll be leveling a night elf hunter since humans can't be hunters.
Can night elfs be hunters in vanilla?
Also, remember that you have the good old mana. Lol
Yes, Night Elves could always be hunters
Aah oki
The classes they can't be in Vanilla is Paladin, Shaman, Mage and Warlock
first thing im doing is making my dwarf hunter
Nelfs cant even be paladins now Lmao
Neither can they be Shamans or Warlocks, I just listed the ones they couldn't be during Classic, which this channel is for.. so yaknow
I know but you made it seem as if they could be any of those now.. I think people could see what classes we have now and put 2 and 2 together.
I recently looked at the scarab scepter questline
Good....fookin....lord
I'm gonna do it.
Hopefully, cause the head drops for 1 person lol
But man. That's the kind of quest I dream to complete on time.
If they implement it, I guess it will be kind of a rush target for many people
It will be very hard to achieve... cuz for a lot of parts you will need a 40 man raid group and only one will loot the item. The world bosses will be the worst to get.
But yeah... most will try to start it and stop at the rep grind... think you need 3000 tokens for the rep... aka about 3000 kills of the same mob while others will try to do the same...
The grind gate is a problem (especially motivating others to help you)
But I think it would be possible to close out the questline for multiple groups before the big collection of materials is done
When our guild did it, we literally picked 1 person in the guild. I'm sure there people trying on their own, but we were one of the 2 guilds that opened AQ back then and wow, what a 10hr crash-fest it was on Aerie Peak. Every crash, there was a wait to get back in, sometimes it took an hour!
I'd do it again tho!
To top it all off, I did Not have all my stuff together for the title đŚ
I actually enjoyed the long server event before the gates opened
it was nice to have the feeling to participate to an event of that scale
You dont get the other quests if you dont have the rep... you are hated status with the q giver... so the 3k mob grind is at the beggining... then are the raid runs.
Watch madseasons 3 scarab sceptor videos... he explains the q chain step by step
I wonder if people would want the old honor ranking system from vanilla to stay there in classic
From what i heard people who already did the rank 14 grind dont want it back, and those who didnt do want it back. Ironic
that's pretty great
Well, I think people who did lower ranks just underestimate how much more difficult it got for the higher ones
classic confirmed 2022
Lame
Lol wut
@lime raft any comfirming materials? Links?
Dont be silly.. How u get that info? And if its true.. Blizzurd plz, ask guys who run own semi-pro development vanilla private servers.. They sometimes know own job when you not 
Let's not be calling things confirmed that are conjecture. Thanks.
yea since he is a reliable source ....
They said at BlizzCon that they already had guys on it which were able to setup a running classic server. Also they posted on Blizzards Job site multiple job openings for it, which all have been closed. So the statement that 1 guy is working on it can't be further from the true.
i failed
I'd much rather wait a few years and get an amazing product, than getting to play next week. You know? :)
oof
No more monk.. welp back to sub rogue it is >:)
Good evening
Any thoughs about shaman 5/10man tanking?
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Yas, i saw it, thats reason why i ask :) cuz sounds inteteresting
Would anyone happen to know where I can find more info on classic WoW like when it is coming out or what I need to do to get ready for it?
Nope, you can't find that info because it isn't out anywhere @maiden river
We'll hear more about it when blizzard is ready to tell us more about it, probably mid BFA at the earliest imo
@meager dock Ok and thank you very much for letting me know
Well, I would think there would be some news at Blizzcon this year, but who knows really?
I hope so, but everyone knows Blizzurd.. They give us some info and release yr will be propably 2020 (imho)
/me reads up
Ah, classic. I remember we once spent most of Saturday on one Scholomance run. With people joining and leaving. It was fun (to do once) đ
Lol... farming scholo as a lock for the epic staff from master gandling... good times đ .... the very def of burning yourself out.
start to memorize those prebis lists for each patch
im thinking of going druid
but idk.
maybe feral dps
definately not healer
fek that
Ppl can try new playstyle, but majority just will accepted "only true way, cuz for rest isnt in game tier sets"..
But yas, i wanna made shamy tank
ive seen sham tank in dungeons before
and it worked out pretty well
being viable in vanilla was more about how dedicated you are and how far you're willing to go to make yourself viable
having the right gear, talents, buffs, enchants, rotation
thats what made vanilla great
it was an rpg
most wont... some will.
thats what guilds are for
find like minded people and have fun
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Thats wrath... not classic. Wrath version is easier then classic.
But yeah... first time i ever cleared it as well. đ
Flying through old zones and thinking about classic literally made me start drooling
If I stay any longer I'll probably start foaming at the mouth or something
tbh im not sure what class im gonna start with
my top 5 are hunter, druid, warrior, rogue, warlock
in that order
Mage. Gotta get them aoe farms goin
Im going to go with pala then rogue then mage then we will see, prob lock or warr
Mankrik's Wife
Mankrik's Wife gets rekt in the Barrens, you should prpbably go to another zone as that class
mage?
bah.
if you want to cast frostbolt for the entire time you play classic
go ahead
im not doin that
Ah, the prospect of looting every individual corpse when farming.
Thrilling, truly.
ooo yeah... totally a deal breaker... needing to click shift on multiple corpses. lol
Pretty sure skyrim makes you loot every corpse individually, dont see any complaints about that
I have got a hard ass question
So?
Why u just dont ask :D
Whoever banned me from offtopic and giveaway submissions?
You're not banned/muted personally, it's a restriction of which roles can post.
And for whatever reason?
please keep this for classic wow discussion only
What spam? 1 screenshot per giveaway submissions
And that's all I said on this server
it isn't just you. It's everyone.
Because of the everyone ping, people started spamming. We closed the channel because of that. not because of you personally
#452336649775480852 is restricted since there's no related giveaway.
#no-wow-discussion is restricted due to a shitstorm of spam because people got pinged.
and now, continue the classic wow discussion please
So, any news of alpha?
Dont expect any news on classic until blizzcon
Dont expect classic until like 2020
Lol
do you guys play on any private classic servers?
private servers are not to be discussed here
Ooooh yeah Frostbolt simulator
Classic probably will be their clutch when they slow down content wise of what to put out, which honestly I don't mind too much. Rather then use it as a time waster over rushing something out.
Wait but will we have to pay a separate subscription for wow classic ?
who know.. 
nah
classic will no doubt share a sub with retail
but you'll probably have to buy it
like a one time buy thing
I'd be somewhat surprised (not very, just somewhat) if people had to pay a second time if they bought the base game retail.
Dude the base game costs what
3 dollars? By itself
You can compare a gameboy color cartridge to it
actually, they are over 3 dollars đ Over here anyway
If it is like that it will be 15$ for sure. But i dont see it going that way... they said a classic server option... as in option like dif language servers option. So i think its just going to be in the sub.
How would that be implemented?
That means they'd have to make multiple servers for multiple countries
American, Australian, Russian, Chinese, German, Turkish, France etc
And because classic didnt have cross-realm thats gonna be hard.
They will 100% have multiple realms with dif languages. Most gaming companies do that, especially blizz. And i dont see a problem... just make more realms and separate them by a tab as the tournament realms or ptr realms.
im sorry to say that but i dont think classic will be our good vanilla
of course not, vanilla is idolized. Its not going to be what people remember playing. But, it is going to be vanilla.
Lot of ppl still play it on p servers and isnt cuz idol status
Watch it not be able to run it
That case doe.
i want that pc and to get d2 d1 and classic on it and say its my good computer
and sit it next to my 1080ti 7700k 16gb ram pc
Truly, a monster đ
640x480, at least 150 ping, all low
That's real nice
Why is this in #classic-wow, that wasn't a thing in classic
it was
Vanilla never had any kind of quest markers on the map.
Only through addons like questie could you have that
o3o
Very interesting information in there đ
I was hoping for some kind of time frame, even if its a year or two, but I suppose it is still way to early for that
I like that they are going to go with a modern infrastructure, instead of modernizing the previous infrustucture
We're gonna see classic after this years blizzcon
If not January next year
Probably.
Im in no rush for it to be honest, I want it to work more than anything.
it'll work
it doesnt take much for classic to work
it just takes a lot for it to work initally
I image in is just a lot of data rewriting, making sure the databases are working together and all the information behind the scenes is going to the right places.
its probs not gonna take long to finish
if they already have the whole game done and they just need to put the finishing touches on it
There was an update about Classic today I believe
And it doesn't seem like it's almost done
It ain't easy.
They need to make it compatible with our current hardware
Addons were a thing back then as well... sure not questie... but cartographer was, and it had the markers
Oooo a classic update... need to read that
Incoming videos from all the classic youtubers in 3... 2... 1... go đ
Boooooo... its going to be only 1.12 patch. No 1.1 to 1.12 progression.
Still good they are going no changes route
I just wander what sort of progression they are going to do... are they going to do patch releases similar to vanilla, leading to redoing TBC and then WOTLK
Remember carbonite alexx? lol
I remember that addon from BC, not sure if it was made then or in vanilla
Ah, Vanilla.
When Deadmines was all elites.
Yoink!
Thanks for the coins.
Anyways.
Westfall, when you had gold farmers standing in one spot just killing boars, endlessly.
So, I just read the dev watercooler about classic. Did I read it right, that they're going to run it on the modern-day engine, with classic-era textures and data?
Yes
Kinda hate we are not going to see the brutalness of 10 man Scholo/Strate pre-nerf, but I'll take what I can get
Same
they shuld make all the raids harder
I wanted to see the old talents
so everything isnt cleared in 2 weeks
Well,if they don't get rid of the entry requirements it will probably take a while for AQ to be cleared
Dont think AQ will be opened by default
My money is on blizzcon
My money is on closed alpha on Blizzcon.
Early november
2morrow
does the classic server starts at the same time like bfa?
No
It will probably take quite alot of time before classic comes out but they are definitely working on it
classic confirmed coming out in the next 5 years
Where is the proof
(Wrong tab)
the proof is right here
I think the bosses mechanics will be reworked
Then people will get mad about the game being different
Unless they literally make each boss mathematically impossible without 60 people
That was the true beauty of Vanilla WoW though lol
Meh.. And also we got game client for "last months before BC".. No talent/item/build changes...just opening content will be gr8.. But many things will be more EZ, if we can get some gear what isnt obtainable in time of original progress..
Still we will see and just w8 till Bcon
the problem is,the bosses mechanics are laughably easy,and we have a lot of extra knowledge know rather than in 2004,so it can feel off very easily
Most of them were just very resistance gear-required too
but for the most part, yeah, they were pretty much all tank and spank
maybe "move away from the group" every so often (Baron G.) or some other kind of gimmick like Garr, locks would have their voidwalkers out to tank smaller adds
Neah... banishing them is the best way to do garr
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i hope that since classic will be built off the 1.12 patch we get all the quests that are in it as well
Nah they're gonna replace all the vanilla quests with legion world quests
And the only reward you get is a single silver
OOF


@maiden river they already said that
even silithus quests?
Shrugarony
@maiden river they already said it would be 1.12 though
Or whichever one they added cross realm PvP queues
Drums of war or whatever
March of war
Something
tmw bandage healing for when your mana went out
they can be but are interrupted when damage is taken
^
bubblehearth pallies again?
