I guess we shall just have to suffer until then. ๐ญ
#wowhead-feedback-support
midnight bramble
Speaking of site issues, some item info doesn't show at all (eg http://www.wowhead.com/item=139225/fitted-ironbark-gauntlets just for one example)
and pages will occasionally reload on me a few times when I switch to a different tab (from drops to comments or whatever) or when I scroll down, takes some patience before it's usable - the latter might be my browser (Vivaldi) but I wouldn't think so, it's Chrome-based still so shouldn't break much...
definitely not just Vivaldi actually, it just did it for me in plain Chrome too
scarlet knoll
is wowhead down? only getting 500 Internal server error here
potent fog
Looklike, yes
potent fog
Yaaaaaaay, thanks team!
knotty hemlock
Is this the place to report a site bug?
tawny blade
Yes
Also we fixed two issues this afternoon
Some missing artifact appearances weren't showing up on saturday, and the icons on the navigation menu for classes were returning /null instead of the main page. both things are now fixed
potent fog
Thanks for your dedicated work
dense perch
You guys are amazing!
tawny blade
Underlight Angler calculator is once again showing up on the site. may take clearing cache to see it
nocturne ether
Hey @tawny blade I've got a new player over on /r/wow that I referred to the new player guides and they're reporting some broken links
@plucky fractal this channel
nocturne ether
"none of the link on the new starter guide works | the basic movements and stuff that is"
plucky fractal
its tru
nocturne ether
was what i got. @plucky fractal can you work with perc?
Give her the URLs that were broken or a screenshot of the page?
plucky fractal
tawny blade
thanks, that would be helpful - for 7.1 last week I updated the 1-20 guides for each class so they should be good at least
plucky fractal
the basic movement and shits not working
tawny blade
oh I see what's happening
that's actually on blizzard's end ๐ฆ
they wrote an article, then revamped their website URLs, and didn't make the old ones work
I'll see if I can dig it up
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20151231 does this load for you?
that's what I have to link to instead I think
plucky fractal
ok cool thanks
tawny blade
ok the links should be fixed now; may take 10 min for the page to refresh
potent fog
Oh, Blizzard pls xD you should do redirecting xD
tawny blade
it's funny, I was just fixing wowhead's blizzcon guide for the same reason - old BlizzCon URLs weren't redirecting
nocturne ether
Thanks for fixing that guide Perc :D
tawny blade
np!
spice wharf
Might need some adjustments to the PvP post. Serenity is not linking and "Entrenched in Flame is split into 2 separate unrelated links.
sweet harbor
Considering writing up a couple specific tanking guides for Dungeons & Raids, Getting some general idea's as to what people are wanting guide wise?
potent fog
Protips to skip trash (?)
I'm not sure, I learned to tank by myself so I don't really know.
sweet harbor
Well I wanted to do class guides for tanking BUT they've all been done so far
potent fog
Then I'll go for "what to CC", "How to handle with bad pugs" and the pro-skips of the trash
I mean, for me the tanks has been always the Dungeon Leader (since they're the ones that get hit)
sweet harbor
Yeah, we are lol
potent fog
mhm mhm
midnight bramble
The ones I've seen people most say they would like seeing is the common skips / "you can pull this entire corridor" / other trash stuff that often isn't immediately obvious to a first-timer tank
a lot of the abuse I've seen thrown at tanks in the dungeon finder has been "omg tank everyone knows [to go that way / to skip that]" and similar
potent fog
Mhm
I didn't have issues (only once but fuck those guys) but at my Firsts times I safe tanking
midnight bramble
yup, whereas people always seem to expect a tank to instantly know every single step of the dungeon
sweet harbor
So basically mob skipping/tank guides?
potent fog
I think so, yeah
midnight bramble
I would say that's the least available kind of guide around. "Here's how to not stand in the bad on bosses" there's plenty, "here's the buttons to push as a [class]" ditto, how to pull a dungeon smoothly not so much
it's also HARDER to write, I guess, but...
potent fog
Mhm, not easy, need to know each dungeon
sweet harbor
I don'
I don't think it will be harder, just a lot of trial and error till you figure out the best path and to get it down to a T and be able to explain it with diagrams, etc
midnight bramble
mm, and possibly screenshots of "okay now you go through this here hole and then pull that pack through this other place"
potent fog
https://twitter.com/0xGradius/status/794343123732172800
Prob you can love it with some announcments!
dense perch
Plus alos You have to have groups with you willing TO CC THINGS AND NOT PULL THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE
So that you learn how best to do it
stuck urchin
"First CC that caster and then pull that pack far back and then BARRAGE ALL THE THINGS!!!!"
midnight bramble
I've had decent luck with asking people to cc / interrupt (eg that one shitty caster up on the ledge in HoV) and let me LoS pull, I try to be chatty and explain things as I go though if I see the group may be unfamiliar with the way I usually pull a dungeon
obsidian rivet
humble delta
So I tried to pull stuff that drops in tov yesterday and nothing came up. The items are there just don't seem to be associated.
tawny blade
where did you look? https://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=214;8440;0 should be working for guarm/helya (need to fix something for odyn)
should be associated on https://www.wowhead.com/npc=114344/guarm as well
nocturne ether
Hey folks, just wondering if there was a calculator for crafted loot upgraded with oblit (since the secondaries are randomly generated iirc?) specifically http://www.wowhead.com/item=130233/sorcerous-shadowruby-pendant&bonus=669:1477%3A1477
Also I totally had a squeefest when I saw Perc walk past me at blizzcon :p
tawny blade
yeah we can look at adding the secondaries at some point. also that link is a reminder we need to add 8/8 as an option to the menu
nocturne ether
cool
spice wharf
@tawny blade Looks like the Waxing Crescent part of the Insurrection Suramar questline is not part of the aftermention guide (goes from Missing Persons to An Elven Problem)
tawny blade
need a link
spice wharf
I was trying to see if there was a need to get this quest completed before next week.
http://www.wowhead.com/quest=45316/stabilizing-suramar
Had to look at the other main Suramar guide.
http://www.wowhead.com/guides/suramar#7-1-an-elven-problem
Even that said that the Stabilizing Suramar quest was supposed to have been released next week, but apparently it's released this week (after you finish the Waxing Crescent part of the questline)
humble delta
@tawny blade it's when I try to search via database for some drops. Got nothing last night
tawny blade
can you send feedback instructions on what exactly you were trying to do? there's a few different ways to look items up and the ways I found them for the loot guide worked, so I'm having difficulty thinking of other ways
cerulean burrow
How can I see the class/spec stats for all the profiles with profiler ?
tight radish
are these Eve Valkyrie splash ads new to the site? they squish all the content making it hard to read
teal dragon
It's a temporary direct ad campaign. You shouldn't see it on all pages all the time and if you happen to expand it without intending to (because you left your mouse on it for more than 1-2 seconds) you can click the close button to get it to shrink back down. I have made the dev team aware of some instances where the ad prevents users from logging in to the site due to an overlap and we apologize if that happens to anyone.
tight radish
ok thanks!
stark pollen
Any update on this issue by chance? http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=243759.2&p=4011446#p4011446 Still having to log in/accept cookie policy every day or two, cookies are allowed by Chrome, nothing blocked or cleared.
robust brook
i'm genuinely curious if making the ads so unbearable that people subscribe is a part of zam's strategy. well it finally worked on me. bought a year of ad free browsing just now
and finally i can browse wowhead without it locking up my browser for 30 seconds every few minutes
potent fog
Curious that the DB is the only page of the website who looks totally different
iron reef
When ads get agressive that makes me doulbe down on adblock rather then paying for ad free
cursive lark
aka, why I'm probably never going to disable adblock for MyAnimeList
scenic panther
personally I use adblock, I don't see the sub for the site as an adfree optin now, BUT I see it as paying the team more consistantly for how much I use the site
potent fog
^
cursive lark
basically
i mean if you want to block ads without adblocking, just farm reputation
๐
potent fog
hm?
scenic panther
umm... how does rep help you?
cursive lark
scenic panther
oh he means cos you can unlock patron at 25k rep on the site
but thats a bit stingy and in all honesty, thats still a LONG way off
potent fog
Oh, I'm near 10k
scenic panther
15k for me
nocturne ether
i feel like the one time i looked at premium it seemed unreasonably expensive
scenic panther
but now at $1 for one month, $5 for six months, $9 for a year of ad-free browsing, not bad
scenic panther
yeah the price just dropped
nocturne ether
oh, thats way cheaper than i remember it being
potent fog
Also, is not a premium service, is more like a "I like your work" suscription
scenic panther
yup
they have to pay @crisp bridge some how ๐
and it's a damned site cheaper than teh twitch sub
misty osprey
i for onw would think panser does it for the love of the game not the money
scenic panther
pretty sure she earns a good wage from youtube
nocturne ether
i dont watch enough twitch to sub to anybody
and i use my amazon prime month on a channel that gives away wow tokens :P
misty osprey
agreed but like all great youtubers you do it first for the love of it the money comes later
scenic panther
although if the site I use for checking the station is anything to go by, it's not much
nocturne ether
i'd pay MMO-C to send me their full news articles in an email
i fucking hate my work filters
i have so much downtime
scenic panther
maybe thats something wowhead could do
potent fog
Websites want visitors to the site ๐
scenic panther
yup
could be a subscriber benefit though, without ads, wouldn't make a dent to teh site ads
potent fog
hmmm I'd like that!
half tangle
(Not my post) : https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5cg7v9/is_wowhead_almost_unusable_for_anyone_else/?st=IVEQTTVL&sh=b2f76123
scenic panther
fine for me
half tangle
Same that's why I said it's not my post lol, just wanted wowhead team to be able to see if they hadn't ๐
livid barn
I lost my consecutive days because of the cookie issue. Had been going since March. ๐ฆ
half tangle
๐
sweet harbor
With a guide writer leaving at the end of the month, will we see an eventual position opening up?
viscid heart
The raid guides will be done by fatboss and then is there only the heal shaman guide and i think that will be done by the other part of chainheal
nocturne ether
is there any chance of wowhead/discord integration or bot in our future?
amber ocean
I mentioned it a while back and they said the devs don't really have time for it.
nocturne ether
ah
scenic panther
depends what the bot would do
nocturne ether
hit the search bar and return something relevant
!wowhead sephuz
return url and snippet from sephuz' secret legendary page, etc
maybe basic stats if its an item, or location if its an npc?
enough to answer basic 'what is that' question, not enough to make clicking the link useless
amber ocean
Discord is supposedly going to add a wowhead command like the /xivdb command that kind of does that
nocturne ether
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
scenic panther
there is also already a good bot that uses wowhead links and checks the wow API
slow mural
Neat, I'll have to look into that one
I'd kill for a way to have tooltips in Discord tho lol
nocturne ether
@scenic panther @slow mural blizzardbot doesnt do wowhead afaik, do you mean a different one? Do you know what its called?
slow mural
I don't, sorry ๐ฆ
nocturne ether
oh, but i dont need links for the gear i have equipped
scenic panther
I actually know the dev, so worth speaking to him
nocturne ether
i need links for random shit people are asking about
like when someone asks me to do a wq it'd be cool to be able to do something like
?topcomment "name of world quest" and return a URL and the text of the top comment which is guaranteed to answer how to do the fucking world quest for people too dumb to look it up themselves
or ?wowhead "NPC" and get zone/location/waypoints or something
i could come up with examples all day
if he's actually interested happy to PM with him or something
scenic panther
ask Chuey over in the Blizzard bot channel
tawny blade
we've been in touch with discord recently about some bot ideas, unfortuantely we can't put large parts of the site onto discord bot text because that reduces pageviews/ad revenue
nocturne ether
yea
you'd have to be real careful about how much info you let bots pull
even just returning URLs would be handy for some cases
viscid heart
tryout the /xivdb command
scenic panther
aye Perc, that was my thinking too
however the blizzard Bot is pretty good for linking to wowhead, we even use it ont eh station discord ๐
nocturne ether
(i just typed in the word shoulder and let it autocomplete cuz idk shit about xiv)
warm wharf
Interesting thing I noticed on the site
Notice the meta description and twitter:description tag say "Stormwind City", as shown in the Discord description of the link above
yet the actual page says Bloodmyst Isle
Guessing there's a bug in there somewhere ๐
teal dragon
Seems to be referencing some incorrect SEO.
zenith sedge
Apologies if this is a common question and I'm just out-of-the-loop, but what's going on with the WoWhead client? I haven't been able to get it to work for a while.
Aaaand disregard. Read farther up this channel and found the solution.
urban creek
Ya have the same issue. Going to look at that solution now.
trail sun
the "Today on Broken Isles" tracker widget has WoW 8th Anniversary listed as world event. Should be 12th.
teal dragon
Thanks @trail sun we'll look into it.
trail sun
Now it is showing both 8th and 9th anniversary and still not 12th anniversary. Weird.
plucky fractal
Hey guys, something also very cool on the PTR I just discovered which im more than sure its being identified is new physics for flying mounts whilst falling. Without being able to fly yet in 7.1.5 jump on a flying mount and jump offf dalaran. The flying mounts now GLIDE
figured it out by jumping off the main tower stairs in dal and wondered why it took so long
smoky sparrow
That's pretty darn cool
scenic panther
wait, they do?!?
they should have ALWAYS done that
that'll be useful for lowbie alts too
harsh solstice
So are % of people with a mount on wowhead based off the entire playerbase or people on the wowhead database? Feel free to DM me an answer I may not be around.
teal dragon
@harsh solstice Can you provide a specific link so I can double check the answer on that? Thanks!
scenic panther
it would be people with the client and linked accounts I would have thought
teal dragon
I believe so as well but I want to make sure I'm not making an oversight in respect to Armory API data.
scenic panther
no other way for you to get the info unless you're worming the Blizz api's huh?
in Blizz's base, killing their dudes and stealthing the info's
teal dragon
@harsh solstice Are you referring to something like this?
If so, 5% of the profiles loaded on Wowhead have the mount, as indicated by Blizzard's API when those profiles are loaded/updated. It should not be mistaken as an indication of the total % of WoW players who have it.
harsh solstice
ah ok thanks for the information that's exactly what I wanted to know ๐
cursive lark
not sure what's going on but something here just caused my CPU to catch fire
(shot up to 80C from a steady 45)
warm patrol
It appears that one of the Mists timewalking dungeons is mistitled on the Preview page
limpid jackal
is there any way to sheath a weapon on modelviewer?
teal dragon
If you add it to a list you can sheath it in the profiler.
If you're clicking 'View in 3D' on a specific weapon, no.
scenic panther
hey Sas, noticed something for you last night, the bot we use for the station chat has a word/swear filter, plus can post when twitch chats go live if thats helpful?
scenic panther
oh sweet, paypal for the sub? i would have done it sooner ๐ฎ
misty osprey
if you use paypal its not recurring unlike cc that is
scenic panther
aww damnit
misty osprey
paypal you have to resub yourself but i do believe you get an email whenits about to expire anyway
scenic panther
cool
marsh ravine
i'll find out in 2 years.....
half tangle
My bro sexualrhinocerous has made some pretty cool discord bots that are worth checking out. I haven't personally set them up but his moderating bot seems pretty effective and customizable ๐
scenic panther
shame he's an utter douche
or at least his team are
and no, it's really not, hence the doucheyness cos I asked for help
cursive lark
who?
nocturne ether
@cursive lark SR is a moderator of the /r/wow discord, he has made a bot that is the most common moderation bot in discord (afaik) called RH1N0, here is the link to his discord: https://discord.gg/0iqN3da4zqpJpuY0
if you wanna know about the bot go here: https://github.com/Just-Some-Bots
cursive lark
i see
amber ocean
Eh... I don't trust any bot with mod permissions that's not written by myself
half tangle
Fair
And yeah samurai me and him get along well but ive heard alot of negatives about him
And can see where they come from
anyway
change of topi
has anyone else had their wowhead pages constantly refreshing?
stuck urchin
More like starting to load something without actually refreshing.
half tangle
IDK
i just see the tab loading every 5 sec and going all crazy when im not even lookin at it
teal dragon
Probably just an ad refresh Pewp.
half tangle
Ok
Just noticed something else tho
The today in broken isles says it's the 7th and 8th anniversary
teal dragon
We're aware. This may very likely continue thoroughout the anniversary, we're working on a way to allow us to exclude certain holidays but this one may very well end before that but for next year... we hope to have it covered ๐
teal dragon
Actually the change we did was already implemented but seems to not have fixed the 'Today In' issue, I'll look into it more. Thanks!
slow mural
do you think a link could be added to the "Today in Broken Isles" section that takes you to the World Quest overview pages (http://www.wowhead.com/world-quests/na)
I keep forgetting that the overview page exists and sometimes i just wanna see everything that's available instead of just the emissary and specials
warm wedge
hi all, mmmm... 1 week ago I suscribed to wowhead patron, and now the site sais again "upgrade available
in addition, in the subscribe section: Wowhead Patron Status
Status: Inactive
why?
i cant find a contact mail or something
teal dragon
I believe you and I are already talking via Feedback now. ๐
scenic panther
shuld I log out and in again aswell for mine Sas?
warm wedge
@teal dragon yes, ty very much ^^
viscid heart
is there a way that we could get something like "all PTR changes"? that its not spreaded on multiple posts but the have a quick link on the main page to a full list (mainly class changes)
misty lintel
Like how surrender@20 does it
Although they still have the posts, just also the big compilation one too
serene lodge
Hi, I have some questions about how Wowhead pulls client data for spell information? Specifically some discrepancies between what Wowhead says for some spells, and what Simcraft (originally) said?
teal dragon
Do you have a spell example and what discrepencies specifically are a point of conjecture?
serene lodge
Wowhead says it's 0.7 RPPM (with no haste). SimCraft has manually set it to 1.25 RPPM + haste, because after testing it was clear the spell data was incorrect and it appears that 1.25 is the correct proc rate (or near enough as makes no difference). 0.7 is definitely not the right amount in game.
It wasn't tested whether it scaled with haste, though, it was just assumed that it did. However, Wowhead has some trinkets showing + haste and others not. This implies that Wowhead got the idea that particular trinkets do not scale with haste from somewhere. Was this through the spell data that Wowhead pulled from the client? If so, why is it different to the data Simcraft pulled? If it wasn't, where did it come from?```
earnest storm
SimCraft authors most likely overrode the value to match in game observations
Actual spell data stuff is horribly messy for stuff like RPPM
I gave myself a headache or two when working through how critical damage bonuses interacted >.<
So the "fault", if any, lies with the WoW team themselves and their slightly horrible to read database
teal dragon
I asked Binkenstein to help you with this Macrologia, I don't have personal experience with SimCraft as many of our Guide Writers do. Thank you Bink!
serene lodge
Please re-read what I said
0.7 was overwritten to match ingame observations of 1.25, and it was assumed that it scaled with haste, but that has not been properly tested
Moreover, the data pulled in the first place was different
Simcraft had 0.7 + haste, and Wowhead had 0.7
But wowhead does have + haste for some other things
My question is as to how or why that could have happened
earnest storm
See previous statement
Some of the RPPM information in the client is really a black box
serene lodge
So wowhead and simcraft interpret the same data differently in some instances?
earnest storm
And some other stuff is handwavie "it just is"
serene lodge
How can that be?
earnest storm
It's usually due to people making changes after getting the data
So Wowhead will generally show what can be read
SimCraft will generally show that + modifications to match in-game observations
serene lodge
In the particular example I have given, the data before changes were different
Appendages was 0.7 + haste in simc, and 0.7 in wowhead
Before changes
earnest storm
And the 1.25 RPPM value from in game is probably overstated due to bad luck protection
serene lodge
It's nice of you to assume that whoever tested it did it wrong
earnest storm
Then I have no idea, it's still a black box situation
It's happened before
For example, here's my reference post on crit damage calculations: https://binkenstein.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/math-reference-crit-damage-calculations/
Where some things are applied to the bonus damage part (ie: the extra 100%) whereas others apply to the whole spell
serene lodge
What about it?
earnest storm
It's an example of where what you'd normally think would be the case... isn't
RPPM stuff gets worse than this, btw
serene lodge
That does work how I would expect it to, actually ๐ But what does it have to do with what we were talking about?
serene lodge
well
Surely the process of pulling the data is automated though?
Why is it done differently to simcraft?
serene lodge
That potentially nearly all the wowhead trinket proc rate information is wrong?
earnest storm
For RPPM? Possibly. It's also possibly wrong in SimCraft.
Most of the time we just assume that it is correct, and if it isn't changes are made in SimCraft to "fix" it.
Not sure how it changes on the Wowhead side
Aran's Relaxing Ruby is an example of that
Wowhead listed as 0.92
Simcraft originally had 0.92 (due to reading data)
Commit here overrides based on in game results: https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/commit/686e533705c8566cc3ab8bd78bdb9519f9115827
serene lodge
I know that.
What I'm interested in is why in some cases, such as with Appendages, simcraft* says + haste, but wowhead* doesn't (before manual overriding).
earnest storm
Where are you seeing the + haste bit on Wowhead?
earnest storm
Appendages doesn't have +haste on it?
earnest storm
You've just been saying that Wowhead has Appendages with RPPM+haste where SimCraft does not, but the screenshot (and the page I just checked) show Wowhead does not have with with +haste
earnest storm
Okay then
So Apendages has +haste in simcraft?
Or is it Spirit Fragment that is the problem?
earnest storm
No
serene lodge
Then appendages and many others do, if not all
earnest storm
Okay, how are you seeing appendages having a haste bonus in simcraft then?
serene lodge
I asked reia
We saw from sims results that Aran's Relaxing Ruby was scaling with haste in simc, and wasn't on wowhead; which sparked the conversation in the first place
plucky fractal
@teal dragon G'day, here about the tooltips issue from the forums http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=257879&p=4013723. The issue is happening right now on all the websites listed, throwing an Uncaught TypeError: Illegal invocation error in Chrome and a SCRIPT65535: Invalid calling object error in Edge and IE. Firefox states TypeError: 'createElement' called on an object that does not implement interface Document. basic.js:1:4700 $WH.ce https://wow.zamimg.com/js/basic.js:1:4700 $WowheadPower</this.init https://wow.zamimg.com/widgets/power.js:1:11277 <anonymous> https://wow.zamimg.com/js/basic.js:1:116776
Two others have confirmed this issue previously, but I'm not sureif they see the same issue right now. I wish I could be more specific but the minified JS makes it impossible to debug from here
Edit: As of 9:40AM GMT, the issue is no longer occuring. Keeping watch and I'll update this when it returns
Edit 2: 25/11/16 5:23AM GMT, diffchecker between broken (left, red) and working files (right, green) https://www.diffchecker.com/5bLYvaZU
teal dragon
Hi Slander, sorry, I didn't see this... and quite honestly, over the next couple of days I may not see much. It's Thanksgiving today in the US. Until next week, you may be better off, in this case, by compiling any screenshots or other information you have and sending it to feedback. I know my message said here would be good but I failed to account for the holiday. Thank you!
plucky fractal
Not a worry mate, I understand. Have a good holiday!
scenic panther
yeah, happy "Time to put 5% extra bodyweight" holiday ๐
serene lodge
@teal dragon the tooltips on wowhead weren't working for me recently until i disabled adblock, not sure if that's related
void lark
same for me but it doesnt work with disabled adblock eighter
got a weird error
Uncaught TypeError: Illegal invocation
at Object.ce (basic.js?6:1)
at Object.init (power.js:1)
at basic.js?6:1
teal dragon
And when I looked it was all fine and dandy again, I've yet to actually witness this problem... I don't deny one exists but I still haven't seen it. Feel free to continue letting us know though, we'll have to investigate on Monday.
plucky fractal
Sas, my latest edit with the diff might be of some help. It seems the errors arise when the 'broken' version of basic.js is loaded, but no errors with the 'working' version. I wish I could give more info than an obfuscated diff but hopefully it provides some information on where the error is. Perhaps an issue with caching on your end?
teal dragon
We'll have to look into it on Monday but all this information helps, thank you!
plucky fractal
Hello people!
I have had a problem with the wow-head tooltip for about a week now.
It won't display anymore (link nor tooltip frame) on my guilds phpbb forum
Has he coding recently been changed?
I know for sure my header file wasn't altered...
I'm kind of clueless here on how to get it to work again. ๐ฆ
@plucky fractal It's a known issue that they will be getting to on Monday
@plucky fractal Alright! ...Awesome!
So, for now I can stop digging through my forum coding! :)
Thanks
teal dragon
I've been unlucky that I can't ever see the problem first hand all weekend but yes, we'll be looking into it soon! ๐
plucky fractal
@teal dragon you wanna see the problem in action (not work actually) ?
teal dragon
I think I finally have.
What is the site though, I'd love another example.
Moved to PM ๐
loud sierra
@teal dragon any information about tooltip problem ?
spice wharf
The Artifact Calculator is giving the incorrect item level of the weapon based on the relics used
Here it is showing I have a 927 artifact weapon. But if you add up the item levels from the relics, it should be 903 instead of 927.
teal dragon
There have been some issues that have come up that are top priority @loud sierra but I'll point out the Tooltips as soon as we can get to it.
loud sierra
Thank you. If you need feedback im here
teal dragon
@loud sierra We'll be addressing it this week if not today/tomorrow. Appreciate you and everyone else who brought it to our attention this past week.
teal dragon
@loud sierra @plucky fractal and others... Tooltips should be functioning again. Please be sure to clear browser cache and such for desired results ๐
plucky fractal
Thanks Sas, seems to be good on my end. Out of curiosity, what was the issue and related fix?
teal dragon
I have no technical skills to explain that, umm, let me see if someone can briefly elaborate for you.
scenic panther
they probably turned it off and back on again
btw Sas, should I be in the patron group now rather than just subscriber?
teal dragon
Can I put you in both?
scenic panther
yup
scenic panther
bows
teal dragon
@plucky fractal An unrelated change broke them unexpectedly. It was tracked down and resolved once the cause was identified.
proper coral
Yeah tooltip are working again on my website, thanks for fix WoWHead ! <(^.^<)'
stark wagon
Could someone answer a few quesions I have about WoW?
shrewd turret
Ask and you shall receive from multiple people
stark wagon
I've played WoW very infrequently, but one thing that I've always struggled with is the targeting mechanic. i've played League of Legends with is kinda similar, but i still struggle.
shrewd turret
Do you play with a mouse?
stark wagon
Yeah
shrewd turret
Hm, honestly, I use tabs because it's easier for me to target a player that way so I don't really know about mouses...
stark wagon
Tabs?
shrewd turret
Yeah, the tab key above the caps lock
stark wagon
Yeah ik but how does that work for targeting
shrewd turret
I mostly play dps so when I press the tab key, it targets an enemy
stark wagon
really?
cause my main is a fire mage
and i have trouble finding the targets in dungeons
so if i tab it jsut auto focuses>
?
shrewd turret
It doesn't really auto focus, it just targets the closest enemy. You'll have to rotate yourself
stark wagon
okayokay
teal dragon
Love you guys/gals but can we use #retail-wow for this sort of discussion? or #no-wow-discussion ? Thank you!
Oh, I'm about 10 minutes behind. ๐
stark wagon
oh yeah mb im new here ๐
shrewd turret
Sorry Sas โค
zenith sorrel
Hi there, I joined yesterday but I thought I'd say hi ๐
finite notch
Hi๐
plucky fractal
Greetings!
nocturne ether
hello
scenic panther
hey guys, is wowhead weekly on tonight? just double checking
scarlet knoll
is wowhead down? (edit: working again)
nocturne ether
hello'
cursive lark
did something happen on Wowhead the last few days? User pages are loading incredibly fast, etc.
half tangle
When I use wowhead on mobile it pauses my music :x
teal dragon
I have some websites and apps that do that to me as well. Like, the WoW Companion app, always turns off my music annoying me. Not sure why Wowhead would be though... I wasn't able to replicate that one on my android chrome browser.
half tangle
The wow app doesn't pause my music but it seriously lowers the volume when open
And yeah I'll try and see if I can figure out what on the site causes this and report back
It's not a 100% thing but is something that has occurred repeatedly throughout the week or so
gleaming tendon
http://www.wowhead.com/comprehensive-suramar-guide The text overlaping the image.
teal dragon
@gleaming tendon I believe it's fixed.
gleaming tendon
@teal dragon Great job ๐
viscid heart
"i BELIEVE it`s fixed." ???
spice wharf
Minor spelling error in the Q&A post (under windwalker info)
'Some issues in reducing cooldowns but ti [should be it] wasn't behaving symmetrically'
teal dragon
Fixed. Thanks.
round grotto
Having a lot of problems leaving a comment on this page: http://www.wowhead.com/item=40343/armageddon#comments
Errors out with "undefined"
teal dragon
Is it a comment or comment reply?
round grotto
Also, shows every comment as needing moderation XD
teal dragon
I did a comment just now without issue: http://www.wowhead.com/item=40343/armageddon#comments:id=2451781
round grotto
Maybe it's my browser
teal dragon
Comment replies working as well. Yeah, just refresh and/or restart, see if that fixes the problem.
round grotto
Thank youuu my comment worked <3
teal dragon
And what an awesome comment! 
Full Disclosure: I didn't see it.
nocturne ether
is that emoji percs head? squints
teal dragon
Yes lol
nocturne ether
awesome
round grotto
Perc emoji 
sharp crane
is beautiful
warm wedge
hi, I have a suggestion... it could be nice to add a section in the right side when you have a recipe with one of your characters, and how many stars do you have
something like with the bag scaner
I cans see that there is 20foods in the guild bank
if I could see whitch of my characters have this recipe, and how many stars, it could be a nice feature!
robust mason
@warm wedge if you view your character in the profiler, and "Pin" it there, you should get spell completion info in the quick facts. I think it works with the various starred levels of profession spells. Check out the "Pinning a character" section: https://www.wowhead.com/help=profiler#profiler-battle-net-profiles
cursive lark
late to the party, but i really appreciate the removal of the annoyingly long sidebar
it really screwed up database entry appearance.
tawny blade
thanks ๐
cursive lark
i thought it looks okay on frontpage (it already has a load of other page elements that cause it to lag tbh that probably need to be addressed at some point or another), but i'm unsure if it's meant to be a vital element
scenic panther
umm, can i go against that, the sidebar tidied it up immensley, the new layout looks great on a tablet or phone, but not on a 1080p screen, the article excerts are so wide now new articles are barely noticable
not a fan to be honest
potent fog
@tawny blade I think there's some info missing in the bluepost of http://www.wowhead.com/news=258433/nighthold-to-release-on-january-17th
The blue post cuts after the second question but in the forum Blizzard actually answered it: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752446734?page=2#post-24
tawny blade
ah the edit part was added after I pulled the post in
cursive lark
@scenic panther That's why I said it looked okay on the frontpage. It was definitively problematic on database entries even on a 1080p monitor because it was grey nothingness or tons of ads and it cramped useful info into a tinier space unnecessarily as a result.
that said, front page with patron and adblock disabled previously was a nightmare even for this computer
it's a little better now
potent fog
Do we have a before and after screenshot? I don't remember well how was before the new design
cursive lark
it basically looked similar to a blogger or wordpress layout where post body was left and sidebar widgets were right
potent fog
Oh.
I liked it
cursive lark
i mean i don't mind it, but I did mind the browser lag
i use a very similar layout on my blog, after all (because I am very lazy)
i think if there's no ad units in the sidebar and it was morphic in size with the text and other stuff within it
it would be fairly solid
based on the news post one big part of it was to reduce ad unit amount
potent fog
I've a very good computer and internet connection so IDK about lag, I'm sorry
Wasn't previous layout more visible? Since AFAIK the Today in Broken Isles was always at the right and in all (AFIK) news
I mean, this change only affects news and frontpage, right?
cursive lark
the sidebar removal affects a lot of things, actually
it affects that and the database
potent fog
Because of that?
cursive lark
well it's always kinda done that on huge monitors
no the problem was that "quick facts" thing at the top right extended to the footer of the page..
in old layout anyways
the current one is actually more familiar - it's close to how it used to be a while ago
i might be a firm believer in the idea of progressing stuff like user interfaces, but they actually kinda have to improve usability
potent fog
Now I see what do you meant
I prefer the old one too
The only good change (IMO, ofc) is this one
With the new design all the stuff from the bottom is better
I would make a "cocktail" of both designs ๐
cursive lark
that would be why i like this iteration/the way older one
moving comments and all that other stuff to the left
is kinda eh
potent fog
Left = old
just in case
cursive lark
do you mean the part where the stuff like "compare" are now kinda pushed off? that's odd..
i mean to be fair I don't pay attention to that but I can see why someone would want the old of that
potent fog
Nah, I don't want the old bottom
I'm saying that the new bottom is better since is wider
cursive lark
or maybe you meant something else? not sure - that's just the difference that stood out to me
in the first set of screenshots anyways
potent fog
And f.ex. you can improve the read
cursive lark
a combo of the two would be pretty nice
cursive lark
probably just cut off right before the social (media) stuff
and keep the social at top right, compare buttons etc and some other parts left of the quick facts
social looks pretty cramped in the old and almost clashes with the database browser thing
cursive lark
true but there was a general issue of crampedness even on such monitors, at least to me.
cursive lark
i wouldn't mind the buttons though
because the buttons actually do not appear to clash
and it would be easier to click them
potent fog
This ones I mean
cursive lark
yeah that one
potent fog
Maybe I can do some CSS. to reflect what I "want"
Something like that?
But with the propper background color in each part
cursive lark
that seems sensible.
idk i'm not the best at describing but I believe that was what I described
potent fog
I'm not the best reading so np xD
In this way you'll have 3 parts
-Top bar with the menus and social accounts
-Middle bar with the subclases (Database->items->etc) and the share options
-DB part with the DB entry + Links/compare/etc + the quick facts
teal dragon
I haven't been keeping up with this but in your example above, where are the ads?
potent fog
Uh..........
teal dragon
I know you're Patron's... lol
but , like, these examples don't seem to account for ads.
teal dragon
The above screenshot looks like the old page.
teal dragon
But why modify the now non-existent version of the page?
Like I said, I just got home recently, I may have missed the rationale being discussed. ๐
teal dragon
oh of the new version, okay I see.
potent fog
Yes yes, sorry
With the propper background color in each part
This would be the ad version of the old website
With the stuff that mr Interest and me we're saying
I'm very bad at english right now, sorry Sas XD I can't explain better
tawny blade
unfortunately we can't keep it like that because there are other pages that have much larger quick facts ๐ฆ like a quest that lists 10 parts in a series
potent fog
And it will mess the bottom...
Just to clarify: I don't hate the new one, it's just different and I take some time to get used to ๐ You all do a great work!
teal dragon
Thanks Intervencion. It does take getting used to, even I'm still adjusting. Overall though this is great for the community as it reduces the # of ads people are exposed to and therefore the potential for seeing a "bad" one. It also improves performance when viewing the site as there's less to load overall. ๐
potent fog
I think @cursive lark said that now the website lag less than before at his computer
cursive lark
it just seems noticeably less, but it could just be an anomaly considering the lag I felt wasn't super huge before. It was just a noticeable stagger on front when I went in incognito mode.
cursive lark
i feel there might be a ways to go and as much as i'd love to go full nostalgia-gasm "make it like Google again" a newsfront is okay too.
empty thistle
I think it would be cool to at least have the option to have it look like google again
without the news front, only the search bar and drop down menus
plucky fractal
@empty thistle You could always use this instead: https://www.wowhead.com/database
cursive lark
close enough xD
might be projecting but i think he means the simple layout that google provides without all that additional stuff below though.
scenic panther
hey guys, just woke up so caught up
i LOVE the changes to the site recently, EXCEPT the new front page layout without the sidebar
quasi tulip
anyone else having problem connecting / updating wowhead client these days?
scenic panther
PLUS, moving the sidebar UNDER the first post means I have to scroll downt eh page now for info that, as a patron, was straight there, not a helpful change
I actually used the firefox zoom function before the changes aswell as I have trouble reading the text sometimes too
but thats the normal unzoomed version, the sidebar missing is sad ๐ฆ
tawny blade
shaman - we unfortunately can't revert the site to the old layout because large parts of that site were hidden and did not get traffic. We would like to present more of a well-rounded image as currently our top traffic includes info you couldn't find via a database page (like ptr datamining, or a raid loot overview). Blizzard is constantly putting wowhead's database functionality in game (7.1 added the option to filter items by slot) so we need to show off the site's unique stuff in addition to regular search
amber ocean
Looks fine to me
knotty hemlock
This site canโt be reached
The webpage at https://wowhead.com/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
ERR_SSL_UNRECOGNIZED_NAME_ALERT
Weird
It works on incognito mode, just not on a normal tab
Must be something on my end
knotty hemlock
Yup that seems to have solved it, thanks man
tawny blade
we're looking into it - thanks for the reports. happened to me around 20 min ago
potent fog
Actually it's not really a website fault, not at 100% at least
Shouldn't say an error when you try to access it on https but the website doesn't have SSL AFAIK so...
I wonder how you have Blizzard oauth tho...
Ooh... when you try to login by Bnet it switch to a https wowhead website so I'm probably wrong -and dumb, as usual-
robust mason
wowhead.com goes to a different server than www.wowhead.com
ssl works on www, not so much on wowhead.com
potent fog
Oh.
robust mason
we use ssl when doing initial auth
when you visit wowhead.com it's like "hey we know you have an auth cookie, go to https://wowhead.com" which fails
will soon deploy fix to make it say "hey we know you have an auth cookie, go to https://www.wowhead.com"
robust mason
https://wowhead.com will still be broken until our ops team fixes it, but at least the site code won't tell you to go there if you happen to visit http://wowhead.com
potent fog
Thanks for clarify, Erorus ๐
robust mason
np, sorry for the trouble
wild totem
Hey, someone there who can help with the new discord webhook? tried to add it to my server but on choosing server and channel, I cant choose a channel.
amber ocean
Are you a server admin of that server?
wild totem
yes
http://i.imgur.com/zrlByXw.png thats what it gives me. so no channel at all (12 on the server)
amber ocean
Make sure you have the manage webhooks permission on the server
viscid heart
creator of the server or "only" admin?
wild totem
creator, so allmighty if you will lol
amber ocean
I was thinking it was the server admin permissions like it is to add bots (I think it still is anyway)
But it looks like they did a separate permission for webhooks
wild totem
should not matter as creator, since i have all the permissions anyway
amber ocean
Make sure you're logged in to the correct account on Discord
The website I mean, not the client
wild totem
ah good point, that might be it
damn, im an idiot. that fixed it. was still logged in with my test account
thanks!
amber ocean
๐
potent fog
I was that close to say "tried to reboot?" xD
viscid heart
einmal aus und wieder anschalten bitte.
wild totem
๐
potent fog
We don't understand deutech so please...
scenic panther
well I'm sure the Dutch in here do ๐
potent fog
You got my point Sir
scenic panther
I did sir, I did
viscid heart
who messed it up? or is it an not yet publisehd news?
scenic panther
I was just about to ask that too ๐
tawny blade
that's really strange. I was definitely asleep then
scenic panther
wait, you don't sleep ๐ฎ
jovial sun
@tawny blade How do i get the premium tag? i am already subscribed on wowhead.
potent fog
Send mp to @teal dragon
Sas148 - 04/23/2016
-If you're a Premium user on Wowhead please send me a private message requesting an add to that role on Discord. Please provide your exact Wowhead name and associated email address when doing so. You can become Premium on Wowhead by visiting: wowhead.com/premium
From #welcome-rules
jovial sun
thanks again.
spice wharf
The new post is messing up it's drop down coding due to something related to "Critical mass" in the Fire Mage section.
tawny blade
yeah, we caught it
should be fine now
it was missing an /ins to close the new text
half tangle
@teal dragon I just had the wowhead pausing mobile audio issue again,
A banner ad on the bottom of my screen happened at about the same time , however the add just showed as a black bar with an x
I would guess that maybe it was supposed to play audio or something, idk
Just had this happen a couple more times, this time xd out the banner and afterwards a video popped up in place of the bannere
plucky fractal
hi guys, can someone help please? can't find legion DR categories table in wowhead, I remember there was one for Draenor
The one from Draenor seems to have been made by a user, it doesn't look like anyone has done so for Legion
leaden spoke
Hi guys, anyone from Australia/NZ?
rigid sapphire
what would be the easiest way to replace wowhead links with the item name when they are added dynamically after the page has loaded?
i guess $WowheadPower.init() works
potent fog
that?
scenic panther
yeah, not a fan myself, but tablet users won out ๐ฆ
humble delta
So stat sticks seem to have reverted to not being able to put a secondary stat on them anymore.
pliant hill
please bring US wowtoken prices to EU /cry
plucky fractal
EU Violet Hold bosses are often not updated (NA seems to be always up-to-date tho) ๐ฉ
viscid heart
fantastic. the trials of valor adjustments
"Reduced damage dealt by Headlong Charge by 10% on all difficulties. This change does not apply to Trample."
thats true dmg.
tawny blade
"So stat sticks seem to have reverted to not being able to put a secondary stat on them anymore." - can you link an example? do you mean something like https://www.wowhead.com/item=123914/demonsteel-greaves ?
viscid heart
normaly "stat sticks" are trinkets with only mainstat+secondary
tawny blade
an example would be helpful so we can troubleshoot the problem quickly. there are thousands of items for us to scan through
spice wharf
Oh btw @tawny blade, it appears that a hotfix went out last night to the PTR (SimC picked up spell changes) and one thing that caught my eye was a -40% added to each of the tank base spell auras. Talking to @upbeat jolt it sounds like Prydaz is only giving 15% shields to tanks instead of 25% for non-tanks (25% * (1-40%) = 15%)
humble delta
@tawny blade sorry yeah that's a good example. Was on mobile
tawny blade
secondary stat options should have returned. this was part of a larger issue where other bonuses like obliterum weren't showing up either - this has been fixed as well
viscid heart
thanks works good except that strange "normal" option that only shows ilvl
stoic carbon
Hello folks, I've just got a quick question, is there a way to change your username on the site? I'm not seeing an option for it in user settings
potent fog
Send feedback! Inside the website, click o nfeedback and you'll be able to ask for it (idk which category tho)
teal dragon
General/Other, either is fine.
stoic carbon
Noted. Just wondering if it was a feature that was already present and I was just missing it
teal dragon
Not missing it. Username changes go through me via feedback ๐ It's usually not a problem.
stoic carbon
Ah, okay. Thanks ๐
teal dragon
No problem. Oh, and it's done. ๐
stoic carbon
That's awesome, thank you very much
humble delta
@tawny blade not fixed for https://www.wowhead.com/item=134292/nightborne-researchers-phiall :C
teal dragon
FYI for the upcoming 1.5 weeks: http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=258584&p=4020276
amber ocean
Xavius is in the list before the world bosses, but yea, dunno why world bosses are there
half tangle
oh yeah i foudn xavius on the list now
yeah i just realized how messed up the list actually is
because the bosses are out of order, then it has one world boss, then cenarius, and then more world bosses
nocturne ether
@manic comet calllllllllllllli that article is great but i can't make a mog to match my flipping artifact cuz mail gear is fugly
idk who wrote that article but i know calli wont get mad at me for random pinging her :p
viscid heart
@ivory dust that strange person above me wants something
nocturne ether
mostly i wanted to winge at calli that hunter gear is fugly
while praising the T19 transmog article
and yea i'm kinda weird
blame the mountain dew.
viscid heart
thats fantastic
nocturne ether
i've been trying to match my 35 trait skin for MM
and can't come up with shit
this is #no-wow-discussion fodder really
ivory dust
hello! i'm just making lunch but happy to chat about transmog ๐
tawny blade
yep! just in the wow or transmog channel, this is the channel for bugs ๐
pliant hill
oh id like to report something i discoverd in wow at eyeboss in EN
i as hunter can send my pet inside to attack the heart while the eye is still up
is that normal or bugged?
Also the website shows EN hunter gear for NH, wasnt the NH hunter gear the dark purple one?
stoic carbon
I believe the color of it differs by difficulty
But the uh... Hunter set is the hood and claw-like shoulders, and the Shaman one is the more crystalline shoulders
For current raiding, the helm from Nyth is from the Hunter set, match accordingly, and the pants from Ilgy are part of the Shaman set (IIRC)
pliant hill
ahh oki
urban creek
Not sure why the site is not showing most of my characters and instead it's showing a list.
trail sun
I am in the premiums settings browsing around to see if I missed something that could be nice to have turned on. There is a tab named Today in Legion, but the selections of quests listed are Draenor quests and traders. While I would still like to see for instance the Draenor Profession traders, I am wondering where the real Today in Legion settings are at.
viscid heart
trail sun
that is the widget, not the settings for the widget
trail sun
Tried to turn on the info for the US profession trader, but there is no save button, so it does not stick. I do think someone forgot about it or it got published by mistake before shaping it into a working feature. Right now turning off the tab on the published site until it works as intended would be the best thing. I was actually looking for an option to turn on profession world quests on the widget for Today in Legion ๐
south condor
hey guys... i tried the planner on the site and it gave me a list of upgrades, but if i try to click on say "emerald nightmare" or any of the sources, the finder doesn't show any items
tawny blade
can you post some pictures? I just want to make sure we are looking at the same tool, because we have a page called 'planner' and then another called 'finder' but it seems like your issues are all on the planner page
south condor
this page -- the upgrades list shows fine but if I click on the names of the zones it gives me no results
http://www.wowhead.com/planner#us-jaedenar-girk is the character i'm searching, if that makes a difference -- bear/resto druid.
coral flint
Does the wowhead team have access to all the Artifact Appearance IDs for every artifact weapon?
For example, /run print(C_ArtifactUI.GetPreviewAppearance()) will give me an ID number for the artifact skin I'm looking at while at the artifact forge. However I don't have access to every single class's forge, weapon, or hidden appearances. :I
nocturne ether
You guys should get partnered so i dont have to come get a URL :P
teal dragon
Working on that. ๐
nocturne ether
cool!
viscid heart
and who gets the hoodie?
teal dragon
My bearded dragon has claimed it.
spice wharf
"" primarily targeting some legendary weapons" I think that is a typo
tawny blade
fixed
I've been noticing I have a reflex to just type legendary weapons after years of them
coral flint
I call the artifact traits "talents" way too often
scenic panther
me too
winged ferry
Just got to 2,500 rep with Wowhead!!! That was a grind. I am looking for the vendors to buy Wowhead shirts from. ๐ I missed the Wowhead shirt sale a few months back.
teal dragon
We might look to do something similar again sometime in the future but no current plans. Sorry you missed it Frazley. Congrats on 2.5k rep.
scenic panther
15,598 here
teal dragon
lol - AND an email about shirts. ๐
winged ferry
Didn't know if you guys were online ๐
teal dragon
Who could this be from I wonder? Frazley! ๐
winged ferry
I don't know who Frazley is, sounds like a weirdo
scenic panther
oh Sas, WW tongiht?
scenic panther
then i shall engage the xbox in the studio and slack off work
winged ferry
weird question, understand if it is a no, is the garrision mission timers app getting updated at some point?
teal dragon
I doubt it, since it's a very rarely used tool anymore. People weren't even using their Garrison's enough for us to keep "Today in Draenor" alive either. :\
winged ferry
That is a shame, but I guess it's understandable especially when now it's all about the Order Hall. I still use my Garrisons a lot, but I'm also crazy. ๐
potent fog
Is it normal that in Telegram wowhead doesn't have preview of the News?
tawny blade
hm, not sure what telegram is?
scenic panther
nor me, but I've found if web links don't produce a thumbnail, then it's usually the platform, not the site link, if other platforms are
potent fog
Hm.
Telegram is an app, chat app with lot of functions and whatever
So it's more probably to be only a "link is 2 new" problem for telegram instead a wowhead issue? Okay
(But old news doesn't have preview too... it's a bit sad but it's not a big issue tbh)
scenic panther
if other news isn't doing it, it's the app, not the link
cos I know all teh station links never produce one, cos we need to fix our site, but wowhead links always produce a thumbnail
teal dragon
We're partnered now by the way for those who had mentioned that previously. Our dedicated link is now: https://discord.gg/wowhead
scenic panther
yeah, grats on that guys!
potent fog
Grats on it ๐
nocturne ether
YAY
viscid heart
hoodie, who got it?
teal dragon
Why are people so excited about the hoodie? lol
Anyhow, full disclosure: no one got a hoodie. I never ordered it. ๐
bright talon
How do we get our account here linked to wowhead for the premium tag?
potent fog
Just read the #welcome-rules
viscid heart
people? i asked two times
teal dragon
I've had other messages Spaten ๐
viscid heart
oh. people really ask for the hoodie?
nocturne ether
shoulda got it and ran a giveaway for subscribers who are active on discord :p
people love free hoodies
IM TOTALLY NOT BIASED ABOUT THE ELIGITIBILITY POOL BTW
viscid heart
i see now.
snow lodge
Where is this hoodie? I am cold, I could use a hoodie, plus pocket for my handssss
nocturne ether
i'd put a cat in the pocket
nocturne ether
i have 3
it would work on one of them
the other will sit on my shoulder
he likes hoodies cuz they decrease the likelihood he falls off
teal dragon
Let's use #no-wow-discussion for future hoodie, or other apparel, discussion. ๐
snow lodge
Aye aye Captain! ๐
viscid heart
all the class guides are still marked for 7.1 , at least the updated one could go up. or is 7.1.5 not an own patch cause its not big number change?
tawny blade
there seems to be an issue across the live site where info tagged as 7.1.5 is showing up as 7.1 (like these comments https://www.wowhead.com/item=144258/velens-future-sight#comments) looking at it
tawny blade
Comments and guide patch #s should be updatednow
proper basin
Guys I came here because I have some problems with the WowHead client, maybe someone here could quickly answer me.
Ever since I've installed it, whenever it tries to upload data after I quit WoW, it says I have private server data, but I deleted the cache and all and I'm playing on the official server and the error still comes out
viscid heart
thanks
bold umbra
@tawny blade Is there something I can do to fix outdated site tooltips on my end? Tooltips still appear as 7.1.0 on my end, at least for items
tawny blade
you need to clear cache or use PTR version for now. after a big data merge live may have issues, if cache isn't updated, for up to 24 hours
bold umbra
@tawny blade okay. I already tried deleting cache locally and tried a different browser
neither of them helped
so I guess just wait it out?
amber ocean
The header just above the blue post says December 10th instead of January 10th
http://www.wowhead.com/news=259117/patch-7-1-5-hotfixes-for-january-10th-and-trial-of-valor-changes
teal dragon
@amber ocean Fixed. Thanks.
amber ocean
๐
spice wharf
Sounds like the Legendary upgrade item will be per boss.
https://i.gyazo.com/f099752f3556c60347ff2c6fbbd60ad2.png
teal dragon
Yep ๐
scenic panther
so whats that mean?
plucky fractal
That each boss has a chance to drop the item
teal dragon
Regardless of difficulty level.
nocturne ether
once per week per boss (not per difficulty)
scenic panther
oh i see
teal dragon
Do it all on Normal? Can't get 2nd chances on LFR, etc.
nocturne ether
^
plucky fractal
Terrible system anyway
Should've just auto upgraded them to 940 similar to the 895 -> 910 upgrade
nocturne ether
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
teal dragon
Sorry Cal, I asked them to make it require some effort this time ๐
plucky fractal
It's just silly that I can get an instant 940 on a fresh alt but have to do a long quest chain on my main
That and you're going to be really pissed off having a Legendary drops this week
amber ocean
Yea that bugs me too
half tangle
Keep them all at 910 and make it use oblit to upgrade them imo
misty osprey
i cant find today on the broken isle its not coming up for me
marsh ravine
still showing under the first article for me
misty osprey
hold on i'll take a snapshot of what im seeing
this is whats coming up on my page im looking at
misty osprey
ahhh k thx
teal dragon
np ๐
There shouldn't be anything leading you to /news anymore
Was it a bookmark?
teal dragon
Actually I do see a News -> News link. Hmm, okay, well at least it's figured out.
viscid heart
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142506 broke again
its no longer possible to choose the stat on stat stick trinkets
viscid heart
to see stats (use the ids for simcraft)
tawny blade
Taking a look, may just be something overlooked as part of the 7.1 > 7.1.5 data transition
tawny blade
Stats should be back
real dawn
Are there known issues with the stats on the website changing each time you go to the page?
ie
amber ocean
"you need to clear cache or use PTR version for now. after a big data merge live may have issues, if cache isn't updated, for up to 24 hours" -Perc
If the stats changed with 7.1.5
real dawn
I'm just refreshing the page and the numbers are changing
tawny blade
I'm not able to replicate this
it's showing up for me as the 654563 version every time I visit
runic storm
is there a dungeon journal for nighthold available on the site?
tawny blade
we have guides up for 9 of the bosses, and the dungeon journal info is on the corresponding NPC page
teal dragon
@real dawn You're right it does change after reload. It could be the + involved maybe. If you pick a specific one, like ilvl890 it stays fixed.
If you want 885 specifically here's the fixed version: http://www.wowhead.com/item=140789/animated-exoskeleton&bonus=1482
tawny blade
I'm sorry I still can't replicate this ๐ฆ everything is just the 2nd exmaple that you're linking to me
does anyone else share this issue?
teal dragon
@real dawn You shouldn't be able to replicate that problem now on Animated Exoskeleton. Can you give it a try and let me know?
Should also be fixed for Aggramar's Stride.
real dawn
Are they global fixes or just to those two items specifically?
teal dragon
Working on Global.
So for now just those two. It seems you're getting a cache version first, then when you refresh you get the correct version. This is due to the changes made in 7.1.5. We'll get it corrected asap. Thanks for making us aware of it.
real dawn
Yeah, those two seem good
What about the other issue with the normal item level being incorrect?
When I use the &bonus for normal, it displays 875 instead of 870
teal dragon
That should get corrected as well. Is it not correct on Animated Exoskeleton for you now?
potent fog
Try control+R or control+F5?
teal dragon
We'll look at it. However, you can get the same stas by selecting 870+ http://www.wowhead.com/item=140789/animated-exoskeleton&bonus=3443
teal dragon
I mean, Normal/870, the titles are a bit unnecessary/confusing. As long as the ilvl is right, etc.
teal dragon
listens carefully.
real dawn
Switching between the normal, heroic, and mythic tabs doesn't update the item grid
Er
I guess it does now
Hovering over the icon displays the 875 version, though
teal dragon
Yeah, it's possible it didn't work previously though. When merging PTR and LIVE things like this can take a bit to fully sync up properly.
When looking at Normal on that page, the tooltips show 870+
heroic 885+
Mythic 900+
teal dragon
Oh, the actual icon? ugh, never noticed that would display differently.
Seems all the icons show 875, regardless of where I look...
It's probably set static intentionally.
real dawn
Seems to be the same for HFC, so probably always been that way
teal dragon
I think you're right. There's no way for an individual to change the ilvl of the icons so we must have just set it to 875 (or something) for simplicity.
User can then click it to customize
real dawn
Probably should be 870, since that's the actual "normal" item level
875 would technically be normal warforged
I mean, it is displaying the "normal" item version, it's just that is 875 instead of 870 for whatever reason
teal dragon
May not be worth the time to adjust but we'll see what we can do. Thanks Justify! ๐
real dawn
Thank you for fixing the caching stuff
teal dragon
Thanks for making us aware of it!
scenic panther
ok, thoguht I'd update my characters with wowhead to check my suramar questline progress and I get a blank screen....
THIS is what i get going to http://www.wowhead.com/list=2681512/eu-ravenholdt-berek
https://gyazo.com/4f96193eb365dc94b6b75fb2e846b2a2
The page loads nothing on ANY of my alts
teal dragon
It's a cache issue. The profiler went down earlier today but was restored. I'm able to load http://www.wowhead.com/list=2681512/eu-ravenholdt-berek - you should be able to now as well.
scenic panther
cheers @teal dragon, typical it happened when I was in a bad mood too, so thought I'd mention it, cheers for givign it a kick
although, just doign it now, when I click update and then click the refresh button, it blank screens again, but using the browser refresh brings it up ok again and it does show as update "35 seconds ago"
damnit, now it's not loading at all again...
tawny blade
we haven't done any updates since last night, it's likely cache on your end still
marsh ravine
think its more not loading the grid with the profile in but page reload makes it appear
viscid heart
no longer possible to add bonus stuff to gear (speed/leech/socket)
proper flicker
Is there a way to turn off the character preview on the profiler pages? I have quite a few of alts that I play, and I like to keep the achievements/quest trackers up to date.. but that 3d preview keeps crashing my browser.
if I open more than 1 at the same time anyways
tawny blade
we'll see if there's an option to hide it similar to how we hid it on npc pages
spice wharf
Small misprint with the Nighthold post
([quest=45383)
There are quests to defeat Elisande 4 times on Heroic ([quest=45383) or Mythic ( Talisman of the Shal'dorei) difficulty. This rewards an ilvl 890 or 905 neck with 3 secondary stats ( Talisman of the Shal'dorei).
tawny blade
thanks, fixed
rancid veldt
There's an incomplete bullet point in this list. http://www.wowhead.com/skorpyron-nighthold-raid-strategy-guide#tank-responsibilities
teal dragon
Fixed. Thanks!
rancid veldt
You are welcome.
plucky fractal
Been happening for a while now but the model viewer doesn't load sometimes. I only use it to verify gear pieces with screenshots so don't know if it's an item thing or a generic model viewer issue.
last fox
pliant hill
that feel when your normal nighthold BOE is 910
and see a Heroic Titanfoged lower ilvl than yours
nocturne ether
Hey, question, why did the rocket change to purple?
plucky fractal
is it possbile to change my wowhead name
i asked Perculia a month ago about it and never got a response back
tawny blade
send all requests to feedback@wowhead.com for name changes
nocturne ether
oooh its pretty
tawny blade
please keep wow discussion in the wow channel, this channel is for troubleshooting site bugs specifically on wowhead. thanks!
cursive lark
is the latest news article on the news board? can't seem to see it
there we go, now i can see it
winged ferry
I love the Wowhead achievements! ๐ Just got another one today.
rancid veldt
@plucky fractal I read the modelviewer sometimes does not load for you. If you can check the browser console in Chrome or Firefox, there should be more information in the Network or Console tab.
plucky fractal
Fist of the heavens in the trait calc looks a bit buggy. The split personality trait is hidden under the top left icon. http://ptr.wowhead.com/artifact-calc/monk/windwalker/AmZDIyA
In addition, correct me if im wrong but all the 3/3 traits should be 4/4
Also you cant put points in Windborn Blowns or Infinity once all others are full
and the tooltip for infinity is 1 horizontal line and clips side of screen
spice wharf
So I am looking at some PTR spells. PTR says certain spells were added in 7.2 but if I switch to live it says it was added in 5.0
http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=116007/thunderfist
๐ค
teal dragon
@plucky fractal We're just looking to get the info out right now but we'll get around to cleaning it up when an opportunity presents itself. Thank you for the feedback on it though! @spice wharf I wouldn't dwell to much on that, it'll change once the PTR becomes live and should be accurate at that time.
spice wharf
Yea I was seeing if I could piece together a new Windwalker artifact trait and that spell came up
plucky fractal
Good job guys. Keep it up!
plucky fractal
I'm unable to enlarge images in news posts as of a few days now.
Clicking on them doesn't do anything despite showing the interact mouse indicator.
Not running any addons obviously.
teal dragon
http://ptr.wowhead.com/news=259441 as an example, doesn't work?
plucky fractal
Correct.
plucky fractal
That's good to know.
Unfortunately that doesn't help me much ๐
Never had issues with it until 2-3 days ago, don't know if anything changed?
teal dragon
No, not a thing has changed at all in that time. Like, data/infrastructure wise.
Can you try in a different browser to see if it's also affected?
plucky fractal
No, nothing in IE either (can't believe I actually touched that, shows how much I care)
teal dragon
I hadn't tried IE, it's the least used browser anymore. It doesn't work for me on IE.
plucky fractal
I never use it, but it's the only one I've got installed since I just use Firefox
teal dragon
Wait are you Chrome or Firefox normally?
Okay it's not working in Firefox.
It is in Chrome though
plucky fractal
It's not working for you in FF either?
teal dragon
No, it's not. Just Chrome.
I hadn't tried FF
I'll make a ticket but not sure how long it'll take to be looked at, if you want to try using Chrome for now though it seems to work there.
plucky fractal
It's not a big issue, just something I noticed the last few days.
Thanks for checking to see if it was on my end or not.
teal dragon
Of course Cal ๐
tawny blade
Blood Elf female models should now be loading correctly again. If you still see the bugs, please clear cache
We've also addressed some issues with talent calculators in guides not fully displaying - this was related to some PTR data mixups. Everything should be good again now.
dense perch
You guys are doing awesome, thanks!
tidal brook
where would i direct support related questions for the wowhead app addon that works while playing world of warcraft? my computers not allowing me to upload wowhead data from the addon cause it says my login info is invalid or something, but i wouldnt know what that info is as i have my wowhead account signed in thru bnet
teal dragon
Send me a email via feedback@wowhead.com or click the Feedback button on the top right of the site, explain you signed up via b.net and I'll provide you a password to use with the Client.
tidal brook
@teal dragon yeah like i dont have a wowhead password or whichever cause of signing in via bnet link, im not sure how i fixed this issue before as ive had the same problem in the past an someone at wowhead did something an it was fixed an it seems the issue came back and i dunno how to fix it. i have 0 issue with the looter addon on my laptop but for whatever reason the looter upload window doesnt like my desktop.
teal dragon
If you'd prefer to PM me I'll help you with it now rather than email. Since I'm here.
tidal brook
okay
spice wharf
So looking at the SimC hotfix data that was posted just now the ilvl for caches is
Mythic 12 = 885
Mythic 13 = 890
Mythic 14 = 895
Mythic 15 = 900
spice wharf
Funny enough, there is code for Mythic 16 but only gives ilvl 900
nocturne ether
yea, Mythic+ goes indefinitely
loot caps out at 15 for now
we only managed to get a 13 last week, i hope i get a trinket >.>
tawny blade
yeah, blizzard confirmed yesterday it went up to 900, and the original blue post said +5 ilvl increments
gloomy cloud
Is it possible to change a wowhead username?
viscid heart
just annoy @teal dragon i think it was something with an mail at the feedback e-mail
amber ocean
I'll know in 14 hours when the mission completes
viscid heart
dont remember that part
quaint tinsel
can you the world quest tracker on wowhead also include dalaran? there's usually a profession quest or a pet battle
tawny blade
@nocturne ether my guess is https://www.wowhead.com/quest=43891/the-nighthold-vaults for trilliax
the other datamined mission items line up with the similar quests for high botanist, elisande, and gul'dan
nocturne ether
cool thanks
teal dragon
The night elf models should now be back to their proper/current versions. If you're still out of date try clearing cache. Thanks!
humble delta
so just noticed that the artifact calculator is a little off when it comes to ilvls. For example if i put 3 875 relics in the shadow priest weapon, it shows it's ilvl as 919 when it should be 903.
tawny blade
Note: The WoWEden domain is impersonating Wowhead in search results and sending people to random/bad sites. Please be mindful when clicking on search results, we are trying to get their pages removed from google: https://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=259615&p=4025443
coral flint
wow that's shady
nocturne ether
@tawny blade imma c/p that directly into wow discord, thanks for the heads up
hardy bloom
we dont know the full extent of part 2 since none of the achievements or quests are really working yet
you cant even start working on it until patch 7.2 aswell, so why would it be up there, that would certainly cause confusion
pale ruin
ok that makes sense.. lol its just the itch to already know of the achievs.
hardy bloom
we know whats involved but the exact steps are still a little unclear
it will probably go up with the release of 7.2
tawny blade
https://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=11446/broken-isles-pathfinder-part-two should be up for browsing
but yeah you can't really do it on the PTR yet, stuff is not enabled
amber ocean
The book colors for the holy appearances on this page seem to be mismatched
http://www.wowhead.com/artifact-calc/paladin/holy/AkYjIwA
tawny blade
I think that is an issue on blizzard's end, sorry