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urban kite
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yeah no, but it still has some pretty big plot points in it

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its not "garrosh's trial" big

timber crag
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Like Flynn and Mathias Shaw being in a relationship

neon hinge
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At least it's not Christen Golden

urban kite
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but like "Meanwhile, Nathanos Blightcaller and Sira Moonwarden have been tasked by the Dark Lady with a terrifying gambit: to kill the troll loa of death himself, Bwonsamdi."

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that seems kinda big, y'know?

hardy forge
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the author seemed pretty chill on the interviews

urban kite
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yeah she's great

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and the audiobook is being read by uhhh talanji's actress too

heady solstice
empty swallow
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he's a cake

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time to eat baby doge

heady solstice
empty swallow
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How do you feel about meaningful choices in shadowlands marcelo

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There's only one right answer btw

heady solstice
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I'll know when I have the beta idiot

empty swallow
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You don't need the beta

heady solstice
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Yeah I do

empty swallow
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the beta will only highlight how stupid it is

heady solstice
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Idiot

empty swallow
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lock player power behind a choice that they have to make when they hit level cap and make it hard to switch covenants to try out other abilities

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good one blissard

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They should really just ditch this hill and make it a talent row GWlulurdMegaLul

heady solstice
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So it's basically just essences but worse?

empty swallow
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It's not essences at all

heady solstice
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Locking power behind a essence choice they have to make at level cap having to switch essences to try new abilities

empty swallow
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Like you have covenants with their abilities that are spec specific, so lets say you pick venthyr because you're a ele shaman and like the ability, but the ability sucks for resto shamans as venthyr and so you're cucked into only playing ele shaman if you want to be venthyr, then let's say you want to swap to another covenant to try out that ability cause it looks kinda cool and you wanna mess around with it, you basically lose all progress you made with venthyr and have to reprog that all over again if you wanna switch back

heady solstice
empty swallow
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I suck at explaining things when I type

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But basically, spec specific powers that you can't easily change without losing maybe months of progress

heady solstice
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Eh

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I hope they balance it better then

urban kite
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(thats only if you want to min-max)

empty swallow
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Not really

heady solstice
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They probably won't until 9.2 though let's be honest

urban kite
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yes really

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nobody is gonna give a shit except for min-maxing it

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its things like "will pay for your transmogs" and slight boosts to stats

heady solstice
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People like to min max

empty swallow
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Let's say you're a casual player and you wanted to play venthyr really bad, you pick them and enjoy them for a few months , but then you see someone else who's necrolord on the same spec as you do something really cool and you want to try that ability

urban kite
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yeah, which is why they won't blindly choose the one that doesn't matter

empty swallow
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you can't try it unles you want to lose all your progress with venthyr

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it's so stupid

urban kite
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but nobody is gonna randomly pick one

neon hinge
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inb4 it lasts 3 months before it's free of charge

urban kite
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i wanna play venthyr and don't give a shit about the bonuses they just look the best to me

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is it gonna COMPLETELY RUIN MY GAMEPLAY? no

empty swallow
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Ok good for you, I'm talking about the broader playerbase, I know personally I will go for the highest dps one to help my raid team, and have an alt that goes venthyr no matter what, but some players only play one char and want to try out different covenants

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are you telling me to get 4 chars for each spec to try out all the covenants

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xD

urban kite
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no, blizzard is

empty swallow
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yes and that's why it's stupid

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Just make people freely able to change abilities at the very least, soulbinds aren't gonna insanely effect you unless you minmax

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People think this issue is only gonna effect minmaxers

urban kite
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which it is, and they've said as much

empty swallow
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It really isn't

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Dude like

urban kite
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azerite gear was the same and it still didn't stop people from switching constantly

empty swallow
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azerite wasn't hard to change

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lol

urban kite
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neither is this?

empty swallow
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it is

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you lose all your progress

urban kite
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yeah? you start from the beginning

empty swallow
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you don't with azerite

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?

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are you trolling or

urban kite
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you had to pay more and more to switch out azerite

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this is just "i want to change" then you level it up again

empty swallow
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how is that losing progress, they nerfed the gold costs in 8.1

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Do you know how many systems there are for you to "just level it up again"

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lol

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The lost progress in bfa was them being stupid and giving us the same armor at a higher neck level and forcing us to almost grind out the same gear the entire expac

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so we lost the rings we gathered in the raid to regrind the rings again and lose them next patch

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until 8.3

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xD

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Let's say you play venthyr, for 3 months and you have EVERYTHING unlocked (soulbinds, the tower thingys, followers maxed out) and you see a dude do something really cool with necrolord on the same spec as you, you're never gonna get to try it out unless you level a whole alt for it because you'd lose all that progress just to try an abilitty you don't know if you're gonna enjoy

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Meaningful choice can stay a meaningful choice without locking us out of player power

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I can't believe people are actually fine with this system lol

urban kite
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yeah i'm just thinking the playerbase would look at their options instead of going "oo oo" first

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silly me

heady solstice
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The player base plays bfa

empty swallow
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I don't think you understand at all so I'm just gonna leave it there, not worth wasting my time

urban kite
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I don't think I'd drop 3 months of progress on the covenant I enjoyed simply because someone used a flashy ability, no. If we're using your example. If I DID want that ability, then yes, I'd have either looked at the covenants when offered and went "huh cool" and chose necro.

If I wanted to switch covenants then I could, easily. It'd mean playing the game again. Comparison to the GC's in XIV, simply means levelling them up again to get the outfits I'd want.

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If they didn't tell us exactly what we got out of them, then yeah it'd be a bigger issue

hardy forge
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monte got a bunch of misinformation flowing around o.o,

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from people that actually have beta,and interviews i have read attentively, changing from one covenant to the next,is super easy and just a click of a button,let's say you're venthyr,and you go over to kyrian,super ez simple change, the "hoops" to jump through are if you were to RETURN BACK to venthyr,going BACK has the restrictions,not changing covenants itself

empty swallow
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That's what I said

hardy forge
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more over,when you leave a covenant,i dont think anyone said you lose any progress,what ppl on beta have said and it's implied from interviews,is that when you leave a covenant,your progress gets FROZEN,you dont start from 0

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you have to do the hoops to get back into the covenant

empty swallow
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yes

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Even switching is gonna be ass

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cause you have to reprog

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even with catchup

hardy forge
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there's catchup mechanics already in place from day 1

empty swallow
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I know

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That's why I mentioned it

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๐Ÿ’

hardy forge
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you have to find where you're walking the line of "complaining just for the sake of complaining because they dont make everything like a glorified talent row" and "actual valid complaints"

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๐Ÿค”

empty swallow
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Ok go ahead and lose prog on beta, then tell me I'm wrong GWcmeisterPeepoLove

hardy forge
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i understand where you're coming from,though it is stemming from minmaxer mindset,but as even preach himself said,this only affects the 1%,which should not be spoonfed with a silver spoon whenever they complain about something that only affects them

empty swallow
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That video was a complete fuckup tho

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Evn his comment section disagreed heavy

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xd

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he made another one

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lemme find it

hardy forge
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i mean his comment section is the same metaslave sheep that get spoonfed whatever the elitists say like it's gospel

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so i dont really take that as valid evidence

empty swallow
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that video might explain my idea more

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idk

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I watched it a bit and realized it was just what I said but said by a person who doesn't tilt when people miss the point GWcorbinTopKek

hardy forge
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it certainly can,depending how much you deeply care about doing those 0.01%,again IM NOT SAYING i trust blizzard with tuning the numbers,and getting all the balancing decent,i actually believe they'll fuck up really hard and one is just going to be like 10% or more better than the others

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but on an idea perspective with no numbers

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it's not bad

empty swallow
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It's not even about numbers ffs

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Let's asy I pvp, m+ and raid like most players

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How much you wanna bet my covenant ability is gonna be absolute dogshit in one of those 3

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in terms of gameplay

hardy forge
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you got soulbinds for that

empty swallow
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And again back to the same fucking point I made earlier, I'm ele sham and the covenant is pretty cool for ele sham, but I also like healign on the side but oh oops the gameplay for the resto sham ability is dogshit, boohoo

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just swap covenants haha

hardy forge
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from what their design perspective is,soulbinds should fill the lack of the ability itself "not being that good for the spec",but again,i dont trust blizzard to do the balancing right and it will be some fuckup

empty swallow
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Or again, I'm ele sham venthyr and my friend is ele sham necrolord, he did a really cool thing in our m+ and I wanted to try it out for a few dungeons

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but I end up having to pay a heavy price just to want to try out an ability

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like

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And don't tell me you get to try out the ability while leveling

hardy forge
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you go necrolord for free,then get a bit of a slog to get back into venthyr

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we dont even know "how" much of a slog getting back into the covenant is

empty swallow
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But why?

hardy forge
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it could be a 1 hour thing for all we know

empty swallow
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Why should you have consecquences for wanting to just try out things

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lol

hardy forge
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im not in the place to question blizzard's design decisions xD

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i work with what im given

empty swallow
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Yes you are

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you pay to play their game, you should care about it

hardy forge
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if enough players complain and get to change it freely,good for everyone i guess,but if they keep it like this

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it really does not faze me

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in the slightest

empty swallow
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It doesn't change it for me that much either

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I'm gonna go alt mode anyway

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but I would like it to just be accessible for all

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because I know eventually I'll want to try out other stuff and that's gonna involve gearing alt #4

hardy forge
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just change covenant lul

empty swallow
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My main is gonna go highest dps covenant regardless

hardy forge
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instead of making alt

heady solstice
empty swallow
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I don't mind the consequence at all on my main either, but again, my alts are not meant to be played like my main either

hardy forge
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then you slap them on a covenant and forget it

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xd

empty swallow
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๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ cba

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I'm out

hardy forge
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๐Ÿฐ

main dirge
dreamy helm
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๐ŸŒ

spice thistle
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Ironic

main dirge
spice thistle
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I have a feeling changing covenants will be like changing soul crystals

main dirge
hardy forge
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nice but old

urban kite
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asmonold

dreamy helm
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asmonbald

hardy forge
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assmongold

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asmonmald

dreamy helm
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asmonbad

vocal sentinel
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Are u trying to summon him? ๐Ÿ˜…

dreamy helm
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nah

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to summon him you need to put out at least 20 new mounts

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or just 1 really good one

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fallen nexus
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read the rules from now on, please

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the next occurrence will result in a ban

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burnt topazBOT
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dynoError I can't find user 275961982849384451.

lost plinth
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lmao they fuckin left

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moron

spring burrow
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He left lmao

burnt topazBOT
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dreamy helm
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lmao

urban kite
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guess we'll see in a year

dreamy helm
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I always wonder how the fuck would think like that tbh

urban kite
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they don't think is the issue

timber crag
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Wait

urban kite
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"giving back to the community" yeah sure he was

timber crag
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What did he advertise

urban kite
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his youtube channel

dreamy helm
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his shitty youtube channel

timber crag
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Oof xD

spring burrow
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The new dragon mount giveaway on his channel

timber crag
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The shame

urban kite
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he was spamming it on the wow subreddit too, saw it this morning

fallen nexus
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Watching him in /r/wow now

dreamy helm
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cause thats how you grow on youtube...

fallen nexus
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Since I can also ban folks there

dreamy helm
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omg

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wait

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lol

fallen nexus
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Ignore it

spice thistle
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Oshit

heady solstice
hardy forge
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O.O

lost plinth
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...gonnorhea?

dreamy helm
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nani

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is that event he right spelling

heady solstice
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no

dreamy helm
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XD

heady solstice
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meaning you can trust him

hardy forge
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google says you need two "r"s

dreamy helm
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I dont trust anyoen

heady solstice
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ive successfully brought back the grey pigment market

oblique rapids
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anybody bought the W3 reforged?

dreamy helm
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not me

oblique rapids
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im interested in playing w3, but reviews are so bad its scary

dreamy helm
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w3 reforged was really poorly executed

spice thistle
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If you have never played W3 before might as well get it

oblique rapids
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yep, but i thought theyd be quick in patching etc.

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i did back in the day, but i wouldnt mind going back

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without it crashing of course

heady solstice
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its a good game

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its just got review bombed because the launch was garbage

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some of the cutscenes are a bit iffy but its just Wc3 with new graphics

dreamy helm
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im just gunna go buy a cd of the og wc3 and play that tbh

oblique rapids
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ok cool

dreamy helm
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thats just me though

heady solstice
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you cant do that though

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the original wc3 has been updated to wc3 reforged iirc

dreamy helm
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I just would run it in a vm with no access to the internet xD

heady solstice
dreamy helm
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actually I think my step father still has his cd

heady solstice
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im pretty sure it just updates the game to the wc3 reforged launcher regardless

oblique rapids
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apparently, if it goes to the battlenet app, it will update

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so youre playing reforged anyways

heady solstice
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^^^

spice thistle
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Wait what

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hold on, repeat that

dreamy helm
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yes but im still pretty sure the cd still has the old executable no?

heady solstice
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yeah it does

dreamy helm
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back when you could just run games

heady solstice
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but blizzard will update that old exe into the new version of the game

dreamy helm
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so just dont let it update?

oblique rapids
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you cant

heady solstice
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bye eevee

oblique rapids
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but here's the thing right, i might just play on my own, ive no friends an no particular interest in playing online against someone

heady solstice
oblique rapids
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for now!

main dirge
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im so tired, cleaning kitchen and not even done

oblique rapids
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so it wouldnt matter really, as long as i get the campaign without crashing and stuff missing.

heady solstice
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they fixed that a while ago

dreamy helm
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idk the whole "lets ruin the old game too" bs leaves such a nasty taste in my mouth

main dirge
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had to throw out half of what I had too

heady solstice
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i mean you can always turn off the new graphics

oblique rapids
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ok let me go level that paladin a few more levels and see if i want to keep him

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standing and just waiting for the character to hit while the cds recover is very hard i have to admit

spice thistle
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Wait so

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I have W3 and TFT

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I have to download W3R?

clear gulch
dreamy helm
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it force patches it to WC3 refunded

heady solstice
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^

dreamy helm
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like the entire backend is rewritten

spice thistle
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you focking what

dreamy helm
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yes

spice thistle
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so i cant play the orignal anymore?

heady solstice
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you can

dreamy helm
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its not the same my dude lol

heady solstice
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its just "updated" to wc3R

dreamy helm
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you can still use your cds though offline

spice thistle
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But using W3R as the UI?

heady solstice
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the ui and graphics i think

dreamy helm
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but pretty sure story and stuff changes

spice thistle
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...Sooo technically...it's free for me or what

heady solstice
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i think?

dreamy helm
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you just dont get the pretty graphics

spice thistle
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...nani

heady solstice
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havent tried it myself

dreamy helm
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but you get all the bugs, missing features and whatnot along

heady solstice
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i mean

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its not like they didnt fix those bugs months ago

spice thistle
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So if I play it like this is jut using the UI of W3R but old graphics

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So if I buy the new thing it just unlocks the graphics?

heady solstice
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idk

dreamy helm
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yes

heady solstice
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wowhead had some articles a while back

neon hinge
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They should had done the same they did with Starcraft

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But the fucked up big with wc3r

spice thistle
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I still dont understand why

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Welp

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Time to pirate myself

heady solstice
spice thistle
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What

neon hinge
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Nobody does

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But the "people" on suits thought it was a good idea

heady solstice
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c

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a

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s

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h

dreamy helm
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er

heady solstice
spice thistle
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Literally there is no cash involved here

dreamy helm
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numberino 2 lmao

spice thistle
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It's the game I had before

heady solstice
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well im saying thats what they want

dreamy helm
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do you have the cd still?

spice thistle
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I got it from the website

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Like years ago

dreamy helm
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big f

spice thistle
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ye

dreamy helm
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honestly im feeling some wc3 and oldschool dota

spice thistle
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Internet is big, I am sure there are old exes around

dreamy helm
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so i might call my step father and see if I can get his cd

main dirge
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warcraft 3 refunded

spring heath
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I finally found a mask that doesn't press on my nose when I inhale!
Now I need to see about getting the kids 5 each for school/in general
We don't know if school is going to start out in physical attendance or not but they still need them.

spice thistle
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What is school even now

main dirge
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I have owo face mask

spring heath
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A nightmare, lemme tell ya

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My oldest wants masks with skulls on them because he's a tiny edgelord

heady solstice
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US ScOMEGALULOMEGALULl system

lost plinth
main dirge
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florida schools are opening mid pandemic

lost plinth
heady solstice
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Friendship with red panda is over

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now floating alexander is my best friend

main dirge
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what's bigger, your horns or the weapon

lost plinth
heady solstice
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that helmer is fucking disgusting

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why is it so LARGE

main dirge
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wonder how it looks on lalafell

spring heath
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It's a fear tactic

lost plinth
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look marc it's better than the leveling version, which has physics on the wings

heady solstice
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is that axe dyable tho?

lost plinth
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yes

main dirge
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wings on helmet weird

heady solstice
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n i c e

neon hinge
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wait

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wolf has descendence

heady solstice
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yes inter

spring heath
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Yes, I have two spawnlings

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One turns 9 next month and the other is 5 and also an April Fool's baby
April 1st is the perfect bday for this little demon leme tell ya

neon hinge
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smh my head

spice thistle
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ho boy

hardy forge
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"spawnlings" O.O

neon hinge
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What's wrong with the name? xD

hardy forge
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๐Ÿค”

neon hinge
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ask any parent ๐Ÿ˜‚

lost plinth
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i mean basically every parent uses that in irony

spring heath
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Scary Cat

heady solstice
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emu you look like

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aymeric but worse

lost plinth
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All I gotta ask is

heady solstice
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again

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aymeric cosplayers

empty swallow
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@heady solstice such a good shcooling system you couldn'

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opk

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nice keyboard

heady solstice
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what the fuck

empty swallow
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yes

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don't u garee

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agree

heady solstice
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monte are you ok?

spice thistle
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boy go to sleep you are drunk

empty swallow
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sleep

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this early

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imagine

heady solstice
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montgomery can you talk normal?

empty swallow
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No I only talk mythic

heady solstice
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talk savage to me

spice thistle
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talk ultimate

empty swallow
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@heady solstice sAVAGES OF EORZEA!!!

heady solstice
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how very glib

main dirge
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I, EverX, humbly submit a toast, to @spice thistle for successfully managing to pirate Warcraft 3 so that he may play Defense of the Ancients. Congratulations @spice thistle, enjoy your DotA! sip Ahhh.

spice thistle
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What

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Can you not tag me for stupidity

main dirge
empty swallow
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TOXIC.Makore

spice thistle
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More like not leaning into stupidity of other people

heady solstice
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montgomery are you ok?

main dirge
heady solstice
spice thistle
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I think the small argument youhad with Monte along with Dafire roasted his brain

main dirge
spice thistle
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That or he is salty that you like the system of the covenants

heady solstice
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that was macho

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not me

spice thistle
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same dog

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i swear

heady solstice
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racist

spice thistle
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Yes

main dirge
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I don't like this meme

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can we go back to good times with good memes yes? no? ok Sadge

heady solstice
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c a k e

main dirge
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I don't even like cake that much

dreamy helm
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c a k e

heady solstice
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***C A K E ***

dreamy helm
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big cake

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am I cake?

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cuts finger off

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nope

timber crag
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looking at your pics of FF XIV, reminds me of how good the armor and customization is in that game XD

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compared to WoW (with all respect to WoW)

dreamy helm
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you guys ever just go a day without caffeine and then feel super awful?

spice thistle
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I don't do caffeine so no

dreamy helm
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i need like at least a gram of caffeine a day

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or something

timber crag
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what about sugar

dreamy helm
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what about it?

timber crag
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bananas have sugar @__@

dreamy helm
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its good sugar though

timber crag
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hmmm, I've been eating sugar ever since I was a baby

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bad kind of it!

dreamy helm
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oof

timber crag
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it's ok

dreamy helm
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sounds like a true blue american

timber crag
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how dare you assume my nationality

dreamy helm
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eh wasn't assuming

timber crag
dreamy helm
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just cracking a joke about how americans consume so much sugar

timber crag
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feeeed meee

dreamy helm
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like everything in america is so sweet

timber crag
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I remember eating sugar raw

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with a spoon

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those were dark ages...

dreamy helm
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oh gosh

timber crag
dreamy helm
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that sounds really bad lol

timber crag
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hmm! What will you say about me consuming dry ramen?

dreamy helm
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thats ok

timber crag
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those times were difficult..

dreamy helm
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that tastes good

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oh

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im sorry

timber crag
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dreamy helm
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there are snacks in some countries where they season dry ramen

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irrc

timber crag
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hmm!

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what is irrc?

spring burrow
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If I remember correctly?

timber crag
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I understand.

spring burrow
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I think thats iirc

dreamy helm
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yes

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im tired and dumb lol

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no caffeine

timber crag
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Don't be harsh on yourself!

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You are beautiful

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and fantastic

main dirge
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opposite of me

heady solstice
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92 when are you becoming 93

main dirge
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when I know what avatar to use next

dreamy helm
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thats a cool avatar

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mine is just a lame catnana xd

main dirge
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mine is cute palico boy

spring heath
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This just in: Emet Selch is a disgruntled muppet

spring burrow
#

Lmao

glacial cipher
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anybody else having issues with the launcher

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nothing happens after the "logging in" screen

spice thistle
#

1.52

spring burrow
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Someone else just posted this question in #wow-help

spice thistle
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these birds are tall

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wtf

glacial cipher
#

nah i mean the whole launcher gets stuck, i cant even select a game

hardy forge
#

i read something i disagree with and in pure internet fashion,i'm going to start a fight over it clears throat

looking at your pics of FF XIV, reminds me of how good the armor and customization is in that game XD
@timber crag excuse me,"how good the armor is" in FF14? when literally 90% of all the healer sets are just "white robe with different embroidery" and all ranged dps armor is just 90% jackets (all of this excluding job gear which is especially tailored),to talk about how caster gear is just the exact perfect same as the healer gear,but blue or purple or black, and the tank gear is just "plate armor 3000", i like the game,but if you are going to say that the armor is better,i'd heavily prefer you specified if you were talking about "casual gear" like jumpers or shirts because the game's got a lot of those and they are good quality,but if we're talking "diversity and design creativity" of fantasy armor,i dont even have to try that hard to disprove your point,just look at any mythic set from wow,boom,the top in flashyness ff14 is some pure white gear that has neon strips at the ends of the dress,it's either so overdesigned into "why would anyone not carve their eyes out upon seeing this" to "it's just jacket 3000 dude wtf"

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and yes

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i literally had nothing better to do

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enjoy rant

dreamy helm
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wtf lol

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dafire

hardy forge
#

it happens

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i usually keep those type of rants to the #transmog channel

dreamy helm
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i have that channel hidden

spice thistle
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Dafire i am going to report you for spam

hardy forge
#

thanks mak

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appreciate it

dreamy helm
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owo

timber crag
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@hardy forge courtesy is owed, respect is earned. Remember that.

hardy forge
spice thistle
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In short

dreamy helm
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ffxiv lacks a lot of originality for me

spice thistle
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go fuck yourself no one asked for your opinion

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But

dreamy helm
#

wow mak

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lmao

spice thistle
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Dafire is right on terms on armor

spring burrow
#

Damn

spice thistle
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casual shirts and stuff though

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Are cool

dreamy helm
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yeah

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that shit is top tier

hardy forge
#

which is why i specifically made that clarification

dreamy helm
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I wish I could dress skimpy in wow like I can in ffxiv

timber crag
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as someone who makes armor - I disagree XD

in wow I barely see any difference between it. And I know there's good things, yeah, but it's way less noticeable. Think it might be because of the models

spring burrow
#

Well you can

hardy forge
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closest you got is bunny outfit

spring burrow
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But its old af armor in wow and low quality

spice thistle
#

mods

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who said that

dreamy helm
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wow doesnt have mods

spice thistle
#

why would you say that jhock

spring burrow
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Im talking about wow

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Wow has skimpy mogs

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But they ugly

dreamy helm
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yeah

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I have a few of them

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I need like bikinis and stuff

spice thistle
#

I mean you can have not slutmugs but

dreamy helm
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but mankinis as well

spice thistle
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glams that are a bit...showy

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Like mixing the 2b stockings with something else

dreamy helm
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my paladin in ffxiv wears only the 2b leggings with a frog head

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thats it

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and yes I roleplayed a bit as a frogboi

spice thistle
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rib it

hardy forge
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i didnt even TALK about how a good amount of raids(8man) and or other pieces of content are just ONE SINGLE SET,with tanks having the full version,and everyone else having an increasingly gimped version,until it's basically just a shirt and a robe for casters

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i am going to fight him over this,mostly because i have nothing better to do

dreamy helm
#

dafire should just fist fight in an arena fight club style

spice thistle
#

Whats wrong with sets again

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Like

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Dafire are you stooped or what, go to sleep or something

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This is not the transmog channel

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go there

dreamy helm
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lmao

spice thistle
#

and idk fight over stuff

hardy forge
#

i may not have explained it clearly,if you look at the allagan 8man raid set for example,

dreamy helm
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its about ffxiv tho

hardy forge
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the tank set is the complete one

dreamy helm
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not wow transmog

hardy forge
#

and it keeps getting gimped

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as it goes down to healer

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by gimped i mean "stripped down of pieces and made simpler"

dreamy helm
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cause the ffxiv dev team is small and does things a bit lazily lol

spice thistle
#

its logic

heady solstice
#

its simple dafire: courtesy is owed, respect is earned. Remember that.

hardy forge
#

and almost always the striking set is a gimped set of the aiming set

dreamy helm
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at least ive heard its a smaller team

heady solstice
spice thistle
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why would you want the aiming part of the aiming set if you want to strike

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4head

dreamy helm
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too many doggy profile pics lol

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I get confuse who is who

spice thistle
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like

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srsly

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Tho the edenverse gear is just greato

dreamy helm
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whats it look like?

spice thistle
#

Which one

dreamy helm
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tank set

spice thistle
#

ree

dreamy helm
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for edenverse

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Ionly tank in ffxiv

hardy forge
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the point im getting fight-mode with,is that he complains every set in wow he cant even tell the difference,when(before bfa) EVERY SINGLE CLASS HAD THEIR OWN SET,which had an upgraded mythic version,

dreamy helm
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even tho ffxiv tanking is so small brain nowadays

hardy forge
#

meanwhile

timber crag
hardy forge
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aiming set is just the striking set,but with a hat

timber crag
#

is this still relevant?

hardy forge
#

like seriously

dreamy helm
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shhh dafire calm down lol

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just go do some eureka

timber crag
#

"each level must unlock something" - how do they plan to implement that?

dreamy helm
#

shhh

spice thistle
dreamy helm
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with a level squish

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eh its ok mak

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so many sets look like those lol

spice thistle
#

I think this is Eden normal

dreamy helm
#

ah

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I do normal mode like 2 times ever

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unless its like a just expansion launched tier

hardy forge
#

i dont think the FF14 looks bad....most of the time,it fits for the aesthetic,what makes me ready for the fight,is the complaint of "i cant tell the armor apart in wow"

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when even in the edengrace tier

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the maiming set

#

is literally a white recolor of the aiming set

spice thistle
#

striking

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not aiming

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I still believe its stupid

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Having 3 different sets for melee dps

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Maiming, Striking and Scouting

hardy forge
#

xD

spice thistle
#

incomplete

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So yes Dafire

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you are a 0

hardy forge
#

not my fault the actual approved way to view sets is incomplete

lost plinth
#

just had to deal with 30mins of single pulling due to a scholar spamming only physick, and two simps defending them

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only for them to votekick me after I asked them to use lustrate

hardy forge
#

holy jesus i feel physical pain reading that emu

heady solstice
#

egirl?

lost plinth
#

and I'm so royally pissed I'm asking their FC leader how they feel about that, because they're all on Malboro

spice thistle
#

Inter?

dreamy helm
#

totally not toXiC gaMe

heady solstice
#

why was inter healing emu's dungeon?

hardy forge
#

i think someone said a few weeks ago,mby it was monte,that unlike wow,ff14 is full of garbage-skill tier players

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xD

dreamy helm
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wow has garbage tier players what you talking about

lost plinth
#

Like I know I'm being a vindictive ass here

dreamy helm
#

i play wow

lost plinth
#

but I'm absolutely being a vindictive ass

hardy forge
#

i cannot confirm this as on louisoix,because i've only had 10 at best

heady solstice
#

ngl

hardy forge
#

but emu almost comes in here daily

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complaining

spice thistle
#

WoW has asmonbald

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So

heady solstice
#

wow has less trash players then ff14

dreamy helm
#

true true marc

heady solstice
#

because in wow ur gonna get yelled at hard

hardy forge
#

asmonbald used to be good dps,then he went full streamer life

spice thistle
#

Wouldn't that mean the skill curve is difficult and harder than current WoW?

heady solstice
#

ff14 ur gonna get a pat on the head and get reassured

spice thistle
#

I say current because

dreamy helm
#

if someone says you suck in ffxiv you can get them banned so easily

spice thistle
#

If I say WoW in general someone will come and be like "BuT cLaSsiC"

#

Parse shaming is bad

#

But I agree

dreamy helm
#

not even parse shaming dude

#

look at uh emu

heady solstice
#

classic hard

spice thistle
#

Tanks in FFXIV are just

heady solstice
spice thistle
#

Idk

dreamy helm
#

they could probs get emu banned

#

for real

spice thistle
#

something is happenign with the tanks in FFXIV

#

I just ask for a countdown and I get berated

dreamy helm
#

tanks are so braindead easy to play in ffxiv

spice thistle
#

Like bitch

hardy forge
#

a lot of ppl in ff14 intentionally play badly,like the icemage emu posted about last week,because THEY KNOW no one will say anything about it

#

and go "oh dont worry"

heady solstice
#

what???????

#

mak

#

what

hardy forge
#

while if a frostmage spams only frostbolt,he gets his ass screamed at

dreamy helm
#

thats why I play arcane mage

spice thistle
#

I asked a countdown in Ramuh because i require a prepull

heady solstice
#

blm more like

#

blm but the black is blue

hardy forge
#

ICE 4 spam ^

dreamy helm
#

most jobs require a countdown

#

even tanks require a countdown ffs

spice thistle
#

Ae

#

That's why I just

dreamy helm
#

like lol thats just tank being a dickle

spice thistle
#

cleave tanks or wipe the party

hardy forge
#

mak: "can we have a countdown" someoneidk: "WTF,GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT ELITIST BS,WE START WHEN SOMEONE ATTACKS"

heady solstice
#

tank of the decade ruining my nin prepull

hardy forge
#

once i had the entirety of Group C complain about putting raid markers on the ground for a boss in the automata raid

heady solstice
#

bruh

dreamy helm
#

lol

#

seems like its worse than when I played

heady solstice
#

you literally just move to the pack

dreamy helm
#

did they release the second 24 man yet ?

hardy forge
#

nop

#

5.3 not out yet

#

got delayed

dreamy helm
#

big rip

hardy forge
#

because corona

dreamy helm
#

makes sense

spice thistle
#

Aug 11

#

God I want to see whats going to happen

#

I have a feeling I need to have some tissues

dreamy helm
#

I think im pretty much done with ffxiv tbh

#

lol makore

spice thistle
#

I am not

hardy forge
#

but have u finished nier automata mak,you surely need a lot of tissues and a therapist

#

for that

spice thistle
#

I have been enjoying it so much

lost plinth
#

welp, i'm in contact with their FC admin staff

dreamy helm
#

I skipped all the story for the neir stuff

lost plinth
#

i have absolutely zero remorse

dreamy helm
#

lol emu

heady solstice
#

pplaff

spice thistle
#

You are an eed--I can't be rude

dreamy helm
#

claps

spice thistle
#

But you know what you are

hardy forge
#

@lost plinth thats how true G A M E R S do it,

#

i'd have done the same

lost plinth
#

All 3 of them were in the same FC, all of them were on Malboro

#

it's just so fucking easy

spring burrow
#

Lmao

spice thistle
#

Pics in my dms now

#

I wanna see

lost plinth
#

I will let you know

dreamy helm
#

are you getting them kicked?

#

plz say you are

spring burrow
#

I need the deets lol

lost plinth
#

I opened with 'Well I've had a rather negative experience with 3 of your members abusing votekick against me in DF, and I wondered what your policy is on that?'

heady solstice
#

emu shoot the screen

dreamy helm
#

Ive been kicked from dungeons for the dumbest stuff

lost plinth
#

they've put me on hold, per se, while they call their dude who actually manages this shit

#

cause I just found the highest ranked person online

dreamy helm
#

like asking the healer to stop spamming HoTs on the full dps

lost plinth
#

waiting on a reply

#

i'm not pissed that they were shitty, I'm not pissed that they were simpin

#

I'm pissed that I wasted 30 minutes of my life, over shitty players simpin over shittier players

dreamy helm
#

lmao

hardy forge
#

thats the 14 lifestyle tho

#

you simp,or you get kicked

dreamy helm
#

wait can't you report them for abusing vote kick ?

hardy forge
#

dont even think there's a report button outside of gilsellers

dreamy helm
#

no there is

spring burrow
#

There is but its hidden

dreamy helm
#

I filed lots of reports

#

cause whenever someone even mentions a parser I report em

spring burrow
#

Lol thats like rule #1 of parsing

#

Dont fucking mention it in game lol

dreamy helm
#

dont talk about parsing

spring burrow
#

Same with mods

dreamy helm
#

which is dumb

#

but w/e

hardy forge
#

damagemeters/parsing in ff14 is like fight club

dreamy helm
#

like as long as i'm not harassing people why does it matter

hardy forge
#

you dont speak about the fightclub

spring heath
#

Emu what's your opinion about green dps?

#

Or anyone's opinion on it really

dreamy helm
#

game has always been about dps

wary gate
#

dps has colors?

spring heath
#

Healer DPS

dreamy helm
#

just stupid healers do more dmg than tanks at times

#

like wtf

spring heath
#

I mean in XIV

#

not WoW

#

WoW is a different channel

lost plinth
#

green dps best dps

heady solstice
#

dps colors as in parses kappakuri

lost plinth
#

green has dps spells. if you use them, the dungeon goes faster

dreamy helm
#

no

#

green dps as a dps thats a healer

heady solstice
#

oh

spring heath
#

I don't know or care about parse colors

heady solstice
#

yeah they're assholes

#

they can fuck off

dreamy helm
#

everyone does dps in ffxiv and in shadowbringers theres been a big problem where healers can do so much dmg

spring heath
#

Literally give no fucks

dreamy helm
#

they out dps fucking tanks

#

its just poor design

hardy forge
#

i mean,if you're a white mage,and you dont spam glare,you get shunned and exiled by the entirety of the whitemage players community

dreamy helm
#

I think healers in ffxiv should do dmg for sure since ya know thats how the design is but not more than tanks.

heady solstice
#

i had a green dps have the audacity to complain that i wasnt using defensives (even though i was) and then proceeded to call me a "sloobering noot"

#

it was a mostly fc run so we just booted him on the last boss

spring heath
#

Ok but there's a whole thing about if Healers should be required to do dps
and I don't mean in like EX and high stuff, but just basic ass dungeons

heady solstice
dreamy helm
#

in dungeons it doesnt matter

#

dungeons in ffxiv just dont matter lol

hardy forge
#

as long as the healers are healing good and keeping everyone alive,and it isnt savage/EX

#

they are not REQUIRED to dps

heady solstice
#

the thing is

spring heath
#

If a healer is just standing there not healing or dpsing, should they be asked/expected to at least throw dots

heady solstice
#

they were barely healing me

dreamy helm
#

Id like it but meh

lost plinth
#

a "sloobering noot"

#

fucking what

heady solstice
#

sloobering

#

noot

hardy forge
#

if the healer is doing too much dps and never healing and ppl are dying,then it's another problem

heady solstice
#

it was a dohn mheg run

hardy forge
#

you dps during downtime ideally

lost plinth
#

healers should never be standing there doing nothing

#

that is the nature of green dps

dreamy helm
#

a good healer would dps a lot though

spring burrow
#

Oh lord

heady solstice
#

n

spring burrow
#

I hate this

dreamy helm
#

its how the game is though lol

hardy forge
#

Always has been jhock,the fact ppl are calling them green dps and they do more than the tanks

dreamy helm
#

since 2.x

hardy forge
#

just makes the meme more true

#

you cant run from the design decisions Square made

spring burrow
#

Though yeah I can admit tanks are definitely more of thicc dps now

hardy forge
#

tanks should do more dps than healers,because thats what they're doing all the time,hitting the boss

#

meanwhile healers heal,and dps in downtime

dreamy helm
#

hitting it like they mean it

hardy forge
#

dps isnt their main focus as a role

heady solstice
#

id hit it

spring burrow
#

Wtf

dreamy helm
#

that boss is fun

main dirge
#

hope this doesn't awaken something in me

dreamy helm
#

uwu?

heady solstice
main dirge
wary gate
#

oh so the same as wow

#

where healers don't just get to be heal bots

dreamy helm
#

wait I thought wow people were healing only?

wary gate
#

no, you do actually have to dps

#

especially in M+

dreamy helm
#

oh thats dope

urban kite
#

yet the healer playerbase in XIV will sometimes flatout refuse to do any DPS because "they picked healer to heal not DPS"

dreamy helm
#

everyone needs to slap the boss

urban kite
#

and so if everyone is at full HP, they will sit there politely.

wary gate
#

if you wanna not dps

#

just play holy priest

dreamy helm
#

kekw

wary gate
#

they do the least dps yet also hit the hardest

dreamy helm
#

what healer does the most dps

lost plinth
#

in xiv?

#

or wow?

main dirge
#

healer that doesn't heal

dreamy helm
#

wow

lost plinth
#

hm

dreamy helm
#

hm?

lost plinth
#

probably resto, solely by the virtue of them not having to gcd heal as much

dreamy helm
#

neeto

lost plinth
#

or paladin, cause the current build kinda requires you to

wary gate
#

monk

#

or paladin

#

resto dps has fallen off

urban kite
#

"HR member" lmao

heady solstice
#

fc hr

main dirge
#

free company hunter ranking

heady solstice
#

yes

main dirge
wary gate
#

wait

#

guilds have human resources?

spice thistle
#

Yess

crude maple
#

anyone online? I need help

wary gate
#

in what?

#

cause this is ffxiv

crude maple
#

no i joined world of warcraft channel

wary gate
urban kite
#

this is neither world of warcraft or the help channel

heady solstice
#

FFXIVHead: Final Fantasy XIV Online

wary gate
crude maple
#

SORRY geese

wary gate
#

s'all good mon

heady solstice
#

geeeese kappakuri

spice thistle
#

Geese katakuri

wary gate
urban kite
#

@crude maple yeah do you wanna not post in multiple chats at once

crude maple
#

ok sorry

urban kite
#

delete your post and wait for help

#

in the help channel

heady solstice
lost plinth
#

welp they got back to me, they said sorry but we don't really have anything in place to justify enforcing anthing at all

#

which is fine i guess

#

at best i've put the wind up em anyway

main dirge
spice thistle
#

owell

wary gate
main dirge
#

pi pi

urban kite
#

pu pu

heady solstice
#

na humor

main dirge
#

eat da poo

heady solstice
#

cum

dreamy helm
#

german always works

heady solstice
#

nazi cat

wary gate
#

BRUH

#

wtf

main dirge
#

TIK TOK

dreamy helm
#

tik tac

main dirge
heady solstice
#

nazi

#

cat

wary gate
#

can you not

dreamy helm
#

er

#

plz no

main dirge
#

DatSheffy

heady solstice
#

ive ruined eu humor

wary gate
#

Like, I will call a mod

main dirge
#

vollstandig

#

boss music plays

spring heath
#

Guess it's time for the weekly 'Don't ship adult characters with the twins' discourse on tumblr

heady solstice
spring burrow
#

Iโ€™m already sick of the cake meme

spring heath
#

Dude it's blown up so much

hushed oar
#

Hi!!!! I am new here ๐Ÿ‘‹ Frostmourne Alli frost mage... Anyone wanna be my friend? ๐Ÿ˜Š

urban kite
#

i got excited thinking there was a deus ex announcement and it was just a dumb cake meme

livid widget
#

When does the beta invites start this week ?

urban kite
#

dunno i cant read

lost plinth
main dirge
#

I call this "Blastoise but with one cannon"

heady solstice
#

hmm yes

main dirge
#

yes indeed

#

it is called lothric

lost plinth
main dirge
#

the lands where princes become princesses

wary gate
#

is ESO actually dying?

#

oh it's the card game

dreamy helm
#

ESO ?

#

or blades?

wary gate
#

legends

dreamy helm
#

wait what is legends

main dirge
#

eso is trash

dreamy helm
#

you right

#

I feel like trash rn but i really need/want to play wow

main dirge
#

I don't talk anymore to only guy I knew that played this game, he nagged me to play it and it was trash no more of this shit please

spice thistle
main dirge
#

k

main dirge
#

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA LUL ๐Ÿ’ฆ

dreamy helm
#

wait what is funny

#

they're just making a sandwich

main dirge
#

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA LUL ๐Ÿ’ฆ

dreamy helm
#

ok

main dirge
#

well you posted it here so I thought it's funny

#

if it's not for funnies then why sandwich gif WaitWhat

wary gate
#

legends

#

the card game

dreamy helm
#

honestly idk mate

#

im not really thinking atm

#

just existing cause rn i feel super awful

#

lmao

spring heath
spring burrow
#

God I hate it

dreamy helm
#

plz no

spring heath
#

This one is actually funny
At least to me
I don't watch the show tho

main dirge
#

another cake meme ResidentSleeper

wary gate
#

I think they're hilarious

#

because everything is cake

#

even... you

main dirge
#

just give me some tik tok

heady solstice
#

<@&299347348847329281>

#

if thats not an ip logger i dont know what is

spice thistle
#

he isnt even trying

spring heath
#

Jfc

#

Here have this

#

Cuz it's amusing

burnt topazBOT
#

dynoSuccess Matty#6681 was banned | phishing/spam

dreamy helm
#

Wolf that meme is 100% correct

#

I was worried it was going to say the servers were being attacked lol

main dirge
#

was he trying to send me tik tok lol

heady solstice
#

yeah basically

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both sell your data

dreamy helm
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tik tok is definitely shifty

spring heath
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Everything sells your data

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the only problem is if you're doing stuff worthy of suspect

dreamy helm
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do i sell your data?

heady solstice
spring heath
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we're all nobodies, who cares what social media has what

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Welcome to dystopian Big Brother, it's a lot less cool than they always wrote it

dreamy helm
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er this can go really political really fast lol

spring heath
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Meh

heady solstice
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jokes on you

dreamy helm
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jokes on me?

heady solstice
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im starting the revolution

spring heath
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Marc are you Mak

heady solstice
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i wish

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hes probably actually doing something in ff14 other than afk in a fc house

native burrow
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Anyone finish their dragon quest event in ff14?

heady solstice
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eh?

native burrow
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You know kill those brickman

heady solstice
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no i havent yet

native burrow
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And get a brickman minion

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Well the last day is 28th july

spice thistle
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Puff puf

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im just leveling thm

dreamy helm
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thm?

spice thistle
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Thaumaturge

dreamy helm
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ah

native burrow
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Lol puff puff

spice thistle
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I was like

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"is this my payment for bad luck"

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then

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sadness

native burrow
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@spice thistle i hope you make big explosion later level