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I'm gonna level one for the transmog, seriously. I love that gear.
but the expansion as a whole, it'll be... interesting. I'm not keen on more PvP stuff after every single player has made such strong connections on both sides of the divide
But I understand that peace isn't an option, without actual-PvP being massively outside lore or else some kind of fight club that no-one talks about.
I get it's World of Warcraft but the war doesn't have to be between each other.
Like
I dunno
yeah, that's fair
I keep thinking it would be fun to rejig the faction allegiances, except people would be super angry to have that forced on them
Maybe a voluntary third peace faction that anyone can join? Who would probably end up being attacked by everyone, but at least it would be a change.
Also fewer quests where we do terrible, terrible things for 20 gold!
We are awful, we'll do anything anyone asks!
That opening night elf quest where a blatantly evil satyr asks you to murder the wildlife and you're like, Sure!
kidnapping children in northrend
Because fuck that guy
panda tuskarr subrace plss
so if i am not wrong Eastern kingdom is now alliance area next expansion
Oh, good point, I didn't pick up on that properly.
bye undead and belf
Wait, though, what's happening to Silvermoon?
probably burned down by alliance
😐
Well, it would make somewhat sense for them to relocate because of the Scourge. even though it's home.
they never relocated before /shrug
undead place is now ours (ally)
My guess is with Teldrassil burning down and The Alliance probably losing Darnassus, they will retake Lordaeron.
;-;
I'm sure thye have it planned
Any link proof for the new slots?
No hell no and it is colored blue aswell.
@spring heath Quel’thalas and Azuremyst are both fine I believe
But Quel’thalas is cut off, as is Azuremyst
Makes sense, really, though both races are magically inclined and thus can still reach allies.
Booty Bay is now ours? (allys part)
I find it funny how the Hallowed Helm item wasn't removed from my bags but it was removed from my transmogs
my anger is that blueflag pvp stuff
no more pvp and pve servers
its going to RUIN communities like the community emerald dream has
all servers will have CRZ
Hopefully they've considered that? Hopefully...
that moment you're cashiering at target and a lady uses $815 worth of coupons
Sara, are you saying they're tricking us into being okay with CRZ again?
I didn't hear that @spring heath.
if anyone here wants blizzard to increase char limit per realm, please vote up my question in the eu thread https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17617056022?page=25#post-491 😄
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They already have said that it will be increased
gnaws inay
@opaque basin yeah, didnt know that. but now someone said its only 2 per realm. I dont understand why they cant just increase it to atleast 20.
That new lightforged draenei as a warrior would be nice
they can be warriors
i'm still sad that Highmountain tauren won't be paladins
Why would they? They have no connection to the Light
And weren't here when the Horde Taurens changed a little their religion
why wouldn't they? they can be taught to harness the light
That would be later then.
I can see them getting priest/paladin class maybe, after some patch of rubbing elbows with us and the others taurens. Just not yet
alright
I want to play the Nightborn something aweful.
I already know how I will name her. <nod>
My night elf Death Knight’s name is Bellestaria.
My future Nightborne Warlock Skaldond
name her Bolverk instead
There's a villain in the backstory of my DH that hided herself in Suramar for a time. She'll be back 😄
(Or someone with a similar name because I like it)
you could always do like me run through the names of lesser known deities whistles innocently
That's also a good one
or put accents on what's taken
I.. do that too.
ah
For my defense, I come from a language where accents ARE used.
nice
just out of curiousity where DO you hail from
I'm in France
ooh well i was going to guess germany 😄
i know a very limited amount of words in german, one or two french ones but thats about all..
i know danke schön because people have not hesitated to tell me that i'm using "dank" wrong.
Accents topic !? 😄
We're back at it! 😄
lol
we have Å Ä and Ö in alot of our names on useless stuff
My question is not "will we get more characters per realm", it's "will we get more characters per account"—they pointed out the PvP ruleset hasn't changed since 2005. Neither has this arbitrary, draconian 50-character-per-account limit.
Like, why 50? It's not a bit number. Why not 64?
I guess they will add more by account to go with the more by server?
How do you have so many characters?
altoholism. LOL
I like playing with the character generator and making aesthetically-pleasing characters. I want to have at least one of every race/class combo because I'm OCD. And when I fill up one server, I start rolling on another but I can't have just one toon there, I need support
also, huh, did Dinosaur Dan leave/get banned?
Maybe
I don't know?
He's no longer a member of this discord server, so yea
Someone know what happened?
dunno
118? lets get that up!
ultimas 24 horas!
yeah idk
I have it set on english
But some stuff uses System Language
It's actually really annoying
So anyone here use Crunchy Roll? Recently, anytime I go on their site I have to download a file called "CrunchyViewer.exe". Windows thinks its malicious, from my research, it could be malicious, but idk
So what should I try here...
I'd recommend caution and stay away from the site for a while
also run your antivirus <_<
oh shit, really!
Yeah, was thinking it was odd. CrunchyRoll didn't need anything besides Java or basic web materials to be opened. Any idea when it will be going online again?
allegedly is back
Yeah the .exe file is a trojan horse that'll turn your pc into a brick, allegedly
yes
I was talking to a friend, I couldn't find much on it. He's like "Nah, seems like its probably fine. Most likely no problems"
Was still skeptical
If you want to be 100% safe, clear cache and reboot your computer
But it should be fine now
I’ve honestly been looking for a shirt like this for a while.
I’d totally ping Cayden if it wasn’t Blizzcon right now and ask where to snag one.
Hmm. Do some of you read webserial?
(Online novel, published at like, one chapter/week)
Well, I want to promote one I love!
Update twice a week
legendary moonlight sculptor
TFW you recognise from a customer’s screenshot that they’re running Windows 98
98?
even you dont use that!
is it a regular used computer or something like a computer just there to run a programm for a machine
but even those should be updated
I mean I guess it could be running a newer version and they just set the appearance to Win98 because they like how it looks
All I see is a screenshot of a couple windows with the blocky blue-gradient top bar
I'm going back on my tangent about cool sea creaturs here, rather than the PTR
To share this guys head
Have I lost you to the tentacles @ruby minnow ?
Bobbit Worms are so... alien like
ur so alien like
ur so alien
I thought it was a bunch of dicks tbh
That.. would have been really weird dicks, I think
Liste man the animal kingdom has a bunch of weird penises.
I thought you meant only human penises
I never specified what type of penises they were
Is there a discord server for all things Heroes of the Storms related?
What's this discord's population?
Big
the list bugged out for me so actually its just me and another guy
Aaaaaaa
I can't decide the colour of my Christmas present
shaman blue
I can make it glow in the dark
But then it looks kind of lame, unless in the dark, not vibrant like non-glow stuff
I'm very picky when it comes to customisation >_<
I still remember that time I spent 5 hours in the Bloodborne character creator.. Took several days to make that face
And I need to decide before tomorrow, else pay the dreaded $45 shipping


@unreal bluff that's an awesome chart.
lol thanks
np
°Gul'dan opens a tropical resort
Pool'dan
°Gul'dan starts training warlocks
School'dan
°Gul'dan has a workshop
Tool'dan
°Gul'dan conquered the world
Rule'dan
°Gul'dan is Koren
Seoul'dan
°Gul'dan's parents are equine
Mule'dan
°Gul'dan is short
Stool'dan
°Gul'dan sees a pizza
Drool'dan
°Gul'dan tortures a bunny
Cruel'dan
°Gul'dan gets raised as an undead
Ghoul'dan
°Gul'dan gets smushed into petroleum
Fuel'dan
This would have been a good solution to the female Worgen "they look too girly" complaint people had with the alpha models
Because instead.. They made them have eyeshadow and big lashes
They made them girlier when people complained they were too girly
Over all these years I do think they did it intentionally to annoy people. They even used the alpha model in promotions years after our current models have been being used, as if to tease.
Every week there are several threads on the forums capped with requests and people supporting getting the old models as options, or new models, but they have been ignored for years.
Additionally promised it in MoP, but never delivered
Here is the image, posted 2 years after we got Worgen on live
I like more wolfosh looks for sure, the current ones look like lot lizards, or Paddy and Salma from the Simpsons
Too much smoking, yellow tinted eyes, too much makeup
The direction their eyes are pointing don't even line up x.x
well, the new model will be less chihuahua-looking apparently, so hurray
From what I understood, it's new faces, so folks who love the chihuahua look (they exist, I've seen them) will be able to keep it
all two of them?
I'm not sure, I've never felt more than one (crippling depression)
that was mostly just a self-deprecating joke but thanks anyway
hugs are always appreciated
I knew, for the joke, but I know the feeling, for real, and even if in past it's not funny so hug deserved, I think.
Omfg I am dead
they're working on goblin and worgen updates!
won't be coming in 8.0 but hopefully some time during the xpac
!!
Hopefully this isn't a repeat of their Pandaria promise
And I kind of hope the ladies will have glowing eyes like the men :3
Where did you hear this news?
Interview of the devs, on WoWhead
Awesome!
Can't wait to see previews!
yeah they said they were pretty happy with goblins and male worgen already and just wanted to upres them but they WILL be looking at making the female worgen more wolfish
yeah they noted a lot of the community feedback about that
they specifically said they'd be making them less chihuahua
It's been getting the most popular thread in the Bnet forums for years, every time I check back there's another capped out thread dedicated to wanting better female Worgen, ever since Pandaria when I started browsing forums
I'm surprised it hasn't been addressed sooner, but as I said earlier I think that was on purpose
So yes, a lotof feedback!
I better pop to bed, else I'll never be awake in time to contact BD support x.x (damn across the world hours..)
xD
onyx strikes again huh
yeah, so fast
i saw you typing
yeah but it was like "huh, it's gone?"
Faster than light 
Not sure if this has been posted yet
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@autumn sapphire its a lie
Ok, it was shared on another discord so I thought better safe than sorry lol
Do you guys have any tips for getting rid of fleas in a room?
Bomb the entire room.
thulm no
Ah, we did not enjoy this last time. Made the room smell for a long time, and for months afterwards any creature that flew through my window would instantly die, which was a bit sketchy to us. What effects could it have on myself or my pets from long exposure if it instantly kills smaller creatures?
I was wondering if there were other ways
Sprinkle baking powder on floor and leave for a hours, overnight is best. Fleas eat the powder and their stomachs explode killing them. Sweep or vaccum the floor. Works pretty well and no smell. May need to do several times
well, if it works
Interesting, thanks Bree!
With the coming of summer over here, they've been starting an infestation, and with the cat gone they're hungry for human!
Sorry
No worries. Just don't do it again. (:
I won't, sorry again!
anyone here also play ff online?
@barren stone
Try to sprinkle around diatomaceous earth too where you think the fleas may be hiding at!
Only food grade though, other types may have harmful chemicals when dealing with pets.
The dust is crystalline and typically cuts into insects when they walk over it, slowly dehydrating them to death from their exoskeleton being perforated.
But, it's perfectly safe for humans, cats, and dogs.
As long as you don't like, try to snort large quantities of it or something that is lmao.
Ooh neat!
I'll see where I can buy some from
Combined with the baking powder, it should hopefully cull the infestation!
Hmm, might this interact with other silicone based things?
Serious question here what's the best way to distract myself so I don't self-harm
pull-ups
I don't have a bar
I like sit-ups better
Legendary pets should not exist and my eczema is itchy AF
There's no profanity strong enough that I'm willing to use for Christoph VonFeasel and whoever programmed him
Eugh
Check out Xu-fu, pet guides
Might help you out
I use it a lot
I should go beat them up, I still need the stupid Eye.
OK I'm at their page and it…doesn't actually look that helpful
"Below you will find a list of pets that are suitable to beat both Feasels. You do not necessarily need those pets, but with them you can use the first alternative listed here on every fight: "
That's pretty nonspecific
Any fox: I think I finally have a 25 fox
Ashstone Core: not 25 yet
Li'l Bling: not 25 yet
Iron Starlette: dies every time
Specific strategy: "fox, starlette, levelling pet"
A pet below level 25?
I can't
I've tried it and it doesn't work
So I must be doing pet battles wrong
=/
And I'm pretty fucking pathetic to want to self-harm for losing a goddamn pet battle. I should quit the internet
We all get deeply frustrated at different things.
I hope the dev who came up with the pet battles at DMF gets a hangnail every day for the rest of their life
Get something to chew on, like bubble gum!
Hi there. I'm seeing really bad lag to Blizz, on world side. NA realms. Anyone else?
Damn why are bakini tops so expensive
About $100 a bra
No wonder I didn't go swimming last year
Some are $200...
Why does adding zebra print up the price by $100
I would much sooner knit this myself
Maybe I should get some shipped over!
This would be so much easier if being topless was acceptable like in Brazil xD
I guess men would be nervous to see so many breasts
If they aren't used to them..
I didn't know it was acceptable in Brazil
I mean, beach here doesn't ban topless
Actually is pretty common now that I think about it
Or was common 10 years ago, been ages without hurting myself with the sand of hell
I feel both genders would feel more nervous as they're not used to exposing them or seeing them exposed, grew up thinking it is taboo
My sister knew a Brazilian who joined a lewd profession to pay for her student loan, she said it was very easy as all she needed to do was not wear anything on the top, which is common in Brazil beaches
I don't like nude beaches for two reasons
I don't visit *
- nervous
- self confidence with that body of mine
GF likes them though
Interesting!
I would not like seeing potentially creepy people in the nude, eyeing me up, or having a uh
Happy thing
Boner.
Pretty much everything unless it's really sexual or explicit.
Are we allowed to talk about adult toys?
Just discuss websites and colours and stuff
Eh... I wouldn't xD I think it's on the very edge even if it's a good topic
Fair enough! :P
I don't have like a specific list of allowed topics 😂
Back to nudism, I have that feeling that men grow up with less self confidence regarding nudity than women
Kinda feeling it even unnatural
Perhaps! I do know ladies tend to send more nudes, but also don't like receiving them as much
I do wonder how much bullying goes on for boys, it is very prominent for ladies about their looks
Lady to lady that is
Competing
Women are vile bitches to eachother sometimes
Unfortunately so
As a woman, I even find I'm more easily annoyed by other women, though I do not act on it
's because a patriarchal society teaches us that women need to compete with each other instead of supporting and uplifting one another
The problem is women are subliminally told that if another woman is getting male attention that that is a bad thing
I don't think there's as much body harassment to men than to women
Which is why you usually only see 1 girl per male friend group
There's bully for sure
But GF told me some stuff that... Jesus
Not even just body but really anything 'oh, you got glasses, you're disgusting and I'll insult you"
Yeah, that sounds right on the mark
Or shit like "psé, this girl only gets good grades because has no friends" in front of her
Tf is wrong with that society
@young frigate +1
I got so much trash because my hair was curly, or because I didn't wear the right clothes
I even got teased a bunch because I happened to glance at another girl in a public changing room, or that I put a ❤ on a birthday card to another girl
They would tease me for being lesbian because of that?
bigots will be bigots
I never understood why gay or straight was important
Silly school girls, they are mean about everything
my little sister got bullied for being "too happy" or "too positive", that its not normal to be happy all the time :P and she came home crying telling me why she was not normal, "different", or why it was wrong to be like she was. I told her, "sister, dont you see you are winning and they are jealous cause you are happy". its like being angry at you for being pretty, this is a compliment. girls can be really mean over nothing :P
I like to joke about being "humansexual" 😂
nothing happens like that for males :P
people are othered for being different
I don't recall seeing bully just for being too happy or positive, no
I see so many ad campaigns about preventing bullying but they almost never address the root cause. the fact that those who face bullying are almost universally part of minority groups.
I was told a lot of my teasing was from jealousy as well, even my sister would bully me, and I am told she is very jealous of me to this day
It's usually just a matter of too fat or too short for men me thinks...
Oh yeah and glasses
That's really common to all
And once you get to high school, the bullying becomes sexual
saying "we don't tolerate bullying" doesn't mean shit if you don't show support for the young people who are most at risk. gay kids, non-white kids, autistic kids.
"Dur dur vaccines cause autism"
There you go, now you're defending bully indirectly
Seeing the LGBT pins on Blizzard employees was 
I grew up with autism and didn't even realise until I was already in sixth form. by that point I'd already endured a lot of bullying for being "different".
I saw the rainbow pins! they were a lovely gesture
to males, what i experienced was mostly: glasses, wether your too fat or skinny. i never experienced smartness being bullied with, having good grades was never bullied, but if you were dumb and had bad grades you could get bullied. and once you are in high school, male bully eachother mostly about who is sexually active more
The answer is no one 😂
At least in my high-school
Guess it depends on the zone
Not like any girl liked me back then anyways 
And I didn't know I liked guys til later so...
The men forced their sexual activeness over here
i live in europe, we dont have middleschool, highschool. we have a school, gymnasium, and university :P
I'm euro too
england here
denmark here
Paella, anyone want some paella?
It's a mess xD
thats heavy!
man, I haven't had paella in a good while
But tbh on the street it's no Change at all yet
i miss spanish shrimps
And since elections are close it doesn't matter til then
I just hope they stop with it 
XD
idk
something like that
we got 9 years of "school", 3 gymnasium, and then college/uni
We have 13 years of school over here!
Here you finish the obligatory scholarship at 16 yo
but is that the same school?
here we have primary school (5-11), secondary school (11-16), sixth form (16-19) and then university
Then there's two years between that and uni
Scholarship? :o
We have to study and gather up 180 points or something so we can qualify for uni
Usually it means people staying past 13 years
Oh no not the school system talk... That shit is confusing as fuck! Cross one tiny little border and suddenly the school system is the opposite reversed on it's head twice. x.x
@barren stone eh... Idk the correct word I think
lol, yeah you guys need points XD sounds like hogwarts
Here is primary from 5 to 11
in the UK education is mandatory to age 16
same hat!
Primary is 4 or 5 till 10, middle school is 11 till 12, then high school is 13 till 18
Over here*!
Speaking of Gym.. Did you guys have to do that beep test?
NO
IT WAS THE BANE OF GYM GLASS
ahahah xD the horror
WE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF THIS HELLISH RITUAL
Let's Not Actually
We called it the shuttle run?
Ever think about what some Minecraft activities would look like in real life? We did, and decided they would be absolutely insane. Music by hydra madness: ht...
the one where you just had to run for like a couple of minutes and see how far you could get
without stopping
I've never done that one, thankfully
Panda by Desiigner ft FITNESSGRAM PACER TEST
I'm still amazed I managed to get a "good enough" grade in gym lol
that sounds terr- NOOOOO
Yeah we were graded 1 to 10 and we had to get at least a 5.5 average to pass
My grades were all 8's or higher and then P.E. was like, 5.7 or something haha
ours was just a pass, you litearlly could not fail
Ugh I hate that kind of grading system, it's so hard to tell how well you performed imo.
Maybe it's just because I'm used to the 1 through 10 system though
I don't like it because the teachers tended not to care and just gave everyone A, which gave you the least points (except for F which gave you none)
They just couldn't be stuffed assessing us
We still did the tests though..
It means we had to grind harder in other subjects to get into uni x.x
Since even if we did great here, you'd get the same as everyone else, which was minimum
I didn't actually end up getting Uni enterence, I found all the study and 40 page essays extremely tedious
I'm still burnt out from study 2 years later
I hear Uni is the same though, no practicals, all paper, all essays, so I'm glad I didn't go
Very expensive too
Eh, most school systems are flawed anyway. It's more about repeating than applying which isn't the best way to learn imo.
And the cost is ridiculous in most cases
They force you to pay $300 a week for accomodation, on top of your 10k fee for a 2 year course
No thanks uni
Oh yeah, wait until you hear our house prices vs income xD
Average house: 1.2 million $, minimum wage: $15 an hour
i get paid to be in uni, which i just enough to pay for my bills :P
No tips (we don't have tips here)
And you're on minimum wage most of the time, nobody I know is on "living wage", not even my parents
Auckland is the 4th most unaffordable place in the world, hence all this madness
I'd hate to see the first
we are not allowed to tip, its illegal, but if you do, they take it and dont say anything. which is great if you get american tourist, cause you just take the money xD
Interesting that it's illegal :o
I'm not sure if it is here or not, but I don't see why it would be bad
i remember being a piccolo at marriott, i almost got more tip money than actually pay and it was great pay!
its illegal cause we dont want to force service workers to be positive or give good service for money, it should come natural.
Interesting
but its nothing to be jailed with, just a fine
like a car ticket
obviously flawed, cause who says no to money xD
I would not like to visit America because of tips! Aren't they mandatory, and you get bad service if you don't tip?
And I'm scared of getting shot too..
They're technically mandatory because they make like 2 dollars an hour
the only thing im jealous about america, is blizzcon, comic-con, and all the other cons i would ove to visit
Business owners are greedy there?
the only thing we got here is dreamhack :P
Blizzcon is ridiculously expensive though
Like it's a good con and I love blizzard, but a weekend ticket to blizzcon is insane
Oh yes I want to go to Blizzcon one day, and an erotic toy show xD
They give away free toys!
!
We used to have a huge kama sutra con here, but this year was their last year because people are buying toys online more and more
There's an adorable thing BD do, teeny weenies, they make adorable tiny toys just as a collectable item xD
So it wasn't profitable anymore
$25 for 5 usually, but someone got a bunch free just for being at the con!
Oh that's awesome!
(As well as other free stuff!)
Everybody loves freebies haha
didnt think there was an actual erotic community or con. wth am i seeing here O.o
Oh yeah I'm deep into the lewd community! They're so friendly!
Really nice and down-to-earth people, open minded
I personally identify as a-sexual, but I do hang around in a bunch of porn artist communities because I do appreciate the aesthetic
And I have to agree there are really nice people in those kinds of community
Any sexuality, identity, kink, we don't hate!
On the contrary, I find new things very interesting to learn about!
i just searched BD tiny weenies and got into something called Bad Dragon? what on earth am i looking at? O.o
You are looking at a popular brand of (very customisable!) toys
i have an idea, but i never imagine this.... there is so much and.... too much for me man.
Some are larger than an adult thigh :p
(I will try to keep this as SFW though, if you want more detailed stuff I will say in PMs!)
i think my wife and i are good. thx you for removing the last part of my innocent
You can get them to shoot coffee and stuff xD
(Honestly that's half the reason I got mine tubed)
I can take it to a hens night and use it as a water gun!
That just reminds me of those ice cream syrup machines where it's the anime girls peeing
Kinda weird, but whatever floats your boat lol
Then again you'd be the biggest badass if you're sipping coffee out of a BD in public haha
Bonus points if you use XL chance flaired
I like the tipping system.
I do not think it's fair on those who cannot work, as they have to pay for other's wages while making none themselves?
Good wait staff can make a lot of money depending on the restaurant. If you go to work and slack off, or be an asshole to your customers, you get a tip befitting you.
There are exceptions.
except you encourage them to be fake. thats one of my most annoying memories of being in america, how they always wanted to help you. its fine the first time, but you dont have to act for me to make me have a good time in a restuarent. it feels fake and annoying.
So you’d rather they do the bare minimum, because they get paid either way?
i guess its also a lot harsh when scandinavian are stereotypical "introverts". we only need a hi, a menu, and maybe a recommendation. dont give me compliments on my jacket. i dont need that! go away after you have done your job
oh, no, you guys have the problem with bare minimum. our waiters are paid quite good :P
America is a different culture
If you do the bare minimum because you get paid either way, you're bad at your job and probably shouldn't be working in that field of work.
I don't like the tipping system.
Tipping is fine, but it shouldn't be your only source of income.
We like when people go above and beyond he call of duty.
They should get paid enough already
They shouldn't need tips to get their deserved money
@dusk schooner yeah
Shitty waiters shouldnt get paid as much
my wife and i ended up saying "we are tourist and we dont like you talking to us too much, we would like a good time. dont worry we will tip, just give us the menu and if you see our glasses empty or us glaring at you, maybe with a little hand up, then you can come and do your thing, but not in bewteen"
Shitty waiters should get fired then
This is why I think that the businesses are busy over there, they keep most of the profits themselves and not reward those working for them? Instead relying on others to do it?
@mystic dune well thats the problem in the first place. you have encourage them to be good so they can get a tip. and if they dont get a good enough tip, then they feel like they can act as a bad waiter. If i get a bad waiter, then you can ensure that i will tell them and they can get overly screwed by being so, maybe even fired.
Tbh the worst restaurants take the tips and redistribute them.
Bad employees here are fired, yes
Which is fair though, because otherwise the kitchen staff will never get tips
Regardless of how bloody amazing the food is or isn't
Hm, true, what about those who do not work with customers?
They must get payed more?
the best waiter is the simpel waiter. menu, recommendations, answer questions with manner and leave. there is nothing more i need from them
In the end I think this comes down to a cultural difference though. Honkerton is from America I'm assuming, so he's used to they way things are over there
definetly cultural. danes dont like to speak with strangers :P
I want good workers to make more than bad workers in the service industry.
Bad workers would not have the job
^
And good workers can still make more than bad workers, even when earning at least a bit of a normal wage.
Say that to all the shitty waiters.
Underpaying staff in the service industry because "tips lol" is ridiculous
I do agree with Smug, tips should be a gift, extra cash as a reward, not mandatory
Well, I agree. I think tips should always exist in some fashion. Making it illegal is stupid.
Even if theyre paid a full wage
illegal is a stretch yes. i can agree to that
If some guy with too much money wants to give his waitress $100, he should be able to
I agree with that, tips are a vital part of the service industry in that regard. It just shouldn't be where the majority of your wage comes from.
If you're so good at being a waiter that you double your income with tips that;s great, all the power to you. But if you're working a shitty shift and you only get 2 customers, you shouldn't have to worry about "will I be able to afford dinner".
I’ll agree there
Aaauuughhh the summer flea infestation!
They're everywhere >:/
Maybe I should take fondly to showering with lemon as the soap
I remember seeing this waitress cry because this huge party she was waiting on came in, literally spent 2 hours or more there, and asked a lot extra of her, and left without tipping. All the time she spent on them, she couldn’t wait on other tables, so her entire shift was out the window.
If you don’t have the money to tip, don’t fucking go out to eat.
And that's another thing.. Shunning the poor
Waitresses in the US are typically paid like, 2 dollars an hour. They rely on tips (which isnt good)
well thats an odd argument. i will go out and eat if i can afford the food and drinks.
You live somewhere where wait staff are paid a wage, and there is no tipping.
In America it's common to tip 15% if the cost of your stuff, yeah?
@mystic dune yes, i do
Maybe the party people were foreign and so didn't know? Or just mean?
so again, i guess its a cultural difference. but what you just said about not going out cause you cant tip, sounds awfully rude and wrong in so many ways. my mind cant work around it
@barren stone they weren’t foreign, and they knew.
If you’re not going to tip, at least eat quickly and leave. You spending hours there is literally denying them pay.
It shouldn’t, but it does.
In general, even in fair wage paying countries, I feel like it's common courtesy to at least tip a bit if you're in a fairly large group. Ofcourse you deserve a night out as well, but you're bring along a lot of work so the least you could do is spare a bit of money for whoever was your waiter.
i always want to clarify, that when i went to america, i did tip. i dont like the system, but i will follow the "rules" to not be rude.
@graceful jacinth I think it’s rude not to tip if you’re spending more time than is needed at a restaurant. It’s common courtesy that if you’re taking up a table for drinks, and to talk, you should tip for your time there.
the spending time is another argument i cant work my head around. so you tip more the more you stay? that is so flawed....
I don't think you should tip more the longer you stay, but if you sit around taking up a table without getting any food or drinks you should leave or else you're being rude.
that i can agree on
Indeed
I have never tipped
And it's not usual here in Spain to tip I think
I don't spend hours and hours on a restaurant either
It's just rude yeah
i have actually tipped in spain and the other hispanic countries :P
its hard to know where you should and where you shouldnt. is it really only america where you "have to"?
@naive turret hi
as an American let me go intil more detail about tipping
the minimum wage nationwide is $7.25. (Around 8.25 Euro, close to 9.5 AUD, a little more than 9 CAD, about 10.5 NZD)
Every state has the option to either use that rate, or pay slightly higher. The state I live in pays higher
But restaurant owners often have a lot of trouble scraping up a profit, so they pay their waitstaff much less than minimum wage (sometimes as low as $2/hour) and seriously expect the rest to be made up in tips.
So you are not rewarding a waiter for good or bad service. You are paying their wage and it's just divided up differently, in a way that makes it so that assholes or cheapskates can deny part of it.
Thus, since we are basically expected to pay the same amount either way, I think it would make far more sense to just raise the prices of the food/drink so that the servers can get minimum wage
Average dish costs $12 and I'm expected to tip? Why not just make the dish cost like $18 and I don't "have to" tip (but I still will if the server is really nice)
If customers complain about how prices are too expensive, well, then don't eat out. Buy bread and meat at the store and just eat sandwiches every day.
Servers are performing a service and they deserve to be paid for it.
It's even worse when you get the stuck-up people who are like "oh, being a waitress or a barista isn't a REAL job, so I'm going to treat you like garbage"
if restaurant owners have trouble making a profit without cutting their staff's wages, they shouldn't own a restaurant :Y
It IS a real job though? If there were no baristas who would make your fancy pretentious coffee at Starbucks?
Exactly, meigender
My words, mei.
Then again, I don't own a restaurant
My stupid brother have a bar
And he's making like... real money
It's just an evolution of how the owners of coal mines would pay their employees in "company scrip" that was only usable at the company-owned store in town, and you started out owing the company because they already paid for your house, equipment, etc.
Just a few steps above slavery, to be honest.
gotta love life under late capitalism
Yep
There's restaurants here with dish at 12€ and they still don't need to cut the wage of their employees :c
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@opaque basin I usually eat 5-7€ dishes and np ^^" They're more expensive dishes on the menu ofc
A place I really like it's a two floors restaurant
With from 3€ to 15€ dishes
I guess it's from 3€ to 44€ but I think the 44€ dish is big af
Srsly, 800g of charcoal-grilled meat with fries
And a salad.
night snack
😂
So, muricans , how much do you pay for drinking water?
bottled or at most restaurants? @neon hinge
Damn a big bbq
@mystic dune supermarket
So, random questions, are there any folk here who can reommend a good vintage of white wine for a gift?
is a beautiful kitty
Hey we have the same washing basket as you!
Nomi
anyone know how often the black rook hold arena comes up?
No idea
Sooo, This happened today...
https://s1.postimg.org/7z6413vbgv/Sylvanas_Statue.jpg
that is a fantastic statue !! really want to nab one for myself (would be my first WoW statue. Congrats on your pick up !
ty... the picture does not do it justice...
I would believe it , would love to see the the fine detail close up.
Do you ever get that thing, where an animal peers in through a glass door, wanting to come in, so you open it for them and leave, looking back to see that they still act like it's closed?
"But.. it's open"
Sits there and stares thought it with begging eyes
I've been building a close to 1:1 recreation of the entrance to stormwind with one other person
Our server is factions and some mmo elements
Lmao
@timber crag Varian Wrynn's soul has been sucked out from him by Gul Dan, so there was no way he could've revived him hahah
so they think you can resurrect someone who has been disintegrated
meh i found it to be halfassed..
aand wouldnt you just freakin know it? two minutes after i clean the litter box one of the cats use it... facepalms couldnt that lazy ass wait at least TEN minutes?
Cats do that, they don't give a shit about their humans 😂 no pun intended
and it looks like i have to unsub from pintrtest AGAIN.. its almost like they CHOOSE to ignore the fact i dont want their newsletter
You are their pets
No, servants
oh yeah i know that i am the pet of the cats
learning how to use this
¿MMD?
MikuMikuDance. Freeware program for making Vocaloid dance videos. Has also been used to make Reaper dance to J-pop.
nope
dead
I love how detailed FedEx shipping is
Tells you what time the package arrived at each place, departed, everything
Yeah
I get so many other shipping companies (which claim to have tracking) that just say "out for delivery" until it arrives at the door, no detail at all!
I like to be able to see what's going on so I can estimate what time it will arrive
(And get hyped! :3)
Backpack and items inside is on sale for anyone interested! https://gear.blizzard.com/us/blizzcon/blizzcon2017-goody-bag
Man FedEx is being super speedy recently, usually packages to here from the US take 2 weeks to get here..
ITS BEEN 2 DAYS and it's almost arrived!! O.O
Super happy!
Yeah! It's left Hawaii and on its way
Impressive
Will be in the country in a matter of hours!
If it's from Blizzcon it's probably premium express though
That's expensive man...
Sometimes I want to buy stuff but the shipping kills me
Nah it's from BD, got the cheapest shipping option
Ah ok
Hope you like it 😂
Cheapest and two days though, whish alliexpres was that fast haha
Wish *
I will! :P
I'm a bit of a collector of adult toys, an awesome but expensive hobby xD
This one can use as a water gun or something too xD
It costs an extra $20 to make it tubed, and I don't think all toys can be!
🤔
Unfortunately my iPad doesn't seem to support most emojis, so I cannot see that! :x
It's a thinking
Aah!
It's funny how you can make anything go through the tube, you can use it for your morning coffee! xD
"Son, what's that... Thing on the espresso?" oh nothing mum it's just my coffee maker
Wait, I live alone
Yeah, can work
Goes to a bar, orders a shot, pours the alcohol into the syringe
Perfect for a hens night
Oh I mean this is a fancy/funny way to drink things!
I would not put coffee or alcohol in my parts!
I just remembered a trend from few years ago...
Some chick's thought it was OK to soak tampons in vodka and then use them.
The toxic shock was pretty obvious
Scary! :x
Mortal.
@neon hinge Oh god, that sounds terrifying.
Right??
Who would do that to themselves?
I don't know what people think sometimes...
Honestly.
Doing something like that can get you seriously hurt
I never understand why such trends tend to arise these days
I'm in the UK and blizzard gear packages usually take ~4 days to arrive
and then a customs letter usually follows shortly after 😭
And you don't pay twice for the gear
Otherwise I'm cool with Spain
Sometimes
I guess
I hear that customs can add extra costs into orders and stuff, what's the deal with that? Never happened to me before!
They just calculate what should it cost here and make you pay the difference
as much as I love blizzard's international shipping being efficient and reliable I wish there were more options than fedex to at least try to soften the blow of customs charges
A on sale sweater for 30 bucks? Ended being 60 after customs.
fedex especially charge through the bloody nose
Gorgeous sweater
Does that extra money go to customs or the shop?
Aah wow :x
I Love Bureaucracy You Guys
I think the only extra I get charged is $5 for currency exchange, though the shipping is $35USD
But that's shipping on everything! So we are used to it and factor it in to what we want to buy
Even if you want a tiny bolt that costs $1, you need to pay $35 for shipping
(Or hundreds depending on the weight of your item)
If I can I avoid buying anything from the states
It's always a money nightmare
Either Asia with no customs or euro with no customs since it's euro and we don't have customs between us I think?
blizzard are the devil
Been ages without buying something from Europe though
they tempt me with glorious wares
I'd rather not die if possible
yeah true then I wouldn't be able to buy stuff from it
I haven't actually checked out what stuff Blizzard sell :o
I want the yeti slippers and a murloc kigu...
I kinda DC about t-shirts
Since I can just buy 100 blank t-shirts
And be cool with that
Anyways they will broke sooner or later 
dreams
Night!
Hmm, no Arakkoa, doesn't really tickle my fancy :p
What I do love though, is teeny weenies from BD
They are just so cute and squishy x.x
But like $25USD for 5..
And they're random picked too so you can't choose the ones you want
Discord update and now it wants to conenct my "Facebook" friends?
Hey
Hey guys! Is there some issue with the website? Its like... loading for a second and then BAM! Blank page. Anyone else experience that atm?
all good here, just went through teh rigmarol of the competition and it was fine
It could just be a traffic thing 🤔
Or your internet had a brain fart it does that sometimes
I just tested it on my phone even... same thing. O_o
It was fine for me 😃
Well, I gotta head off to bed. You have a good night and I will talk to you tomorrow hopefully ":)
Site seems fine @willow thunder
Its seems for US 😄 . I tried from 3 different IP's / providers. My phone, "portable internet" ( dunno whats the right word) and my cable (home) and it cant load up.
The Gleam giveaway page doesn't load or the site itself?
Like I said, it shows up for a second or even less and appears as a blank page
@willow thunder When did this start?
I think I visit the site around 8 pm (gmt+ 2) and it was fine. Now is 6:33 in the morning
Did you install anything recently? Anything at all change on your end?
Nope
I'm a bit at a loss. Rather strange to happen on multiple devices on different connections.
exactly...
I don't have any other reports of this sort of behavior.
I'd be interested in witnessing what you're seeing. What's your Wowhead username first off?
cryptphoenix
I'm also having an issue. Everything loads except post content and comments
Just checked my iPad, and the site doesn't even load on it. Just a blank white page
Yeah! @willow thunder can access the site again. ❤
Any idea what the issue was?
Love ya guys! Thanks for the help ❤
I guess that would definitely cause some issues.
So tomorrow is a week since the wowhead party and blizzcon began 😦
Is Black Friday tomorrow or next weekend?
I keep googling it but I swear I get a different answer each time, hence the confusion
It's the day after Thanksgiving. So, November 24th. Two weeks from Friday.
Two weeks! And here I thought it was last week!
I'm not good at remembering holidays, aside from Christmas!
Thanks!
Canadian Thanksgiving is in October, so you could have been thinking of that, or not of course.
I'm not looking forward to Thanksgiving as much as I am for Punisher
I was just going off stuff I heard from reddit, and then google, it was all over the place
Last week I thought it was last Friday, then this Friday, then next Friday
Herring Gulls doing a riverdance. Actually this is worm charming or "puddling". Worms breath through their skin which has to be wet. When it rains they know ...
good morning all, anyone know if Zam are making a Destiny 2 site?
try asking in #wowhead-feedback-support maybe?
OVH is down and I need to acces a website stored there 
We do not currently have any plans to make a Destiny 2 site, but you never know what the future holds 😉
nooooo! 😹
@frosty tundra aaah ok ty vm
Should have invited the Arakkoa to join them
The abundance of green fel would be destroyed by torrents of white excrement
Shooting like owls, the purge would be so successful it grants birth to a new and slimy Old God
That's awfully descriptive.
I just feel sorry for the alliance's streets after this
Be careful where you park your mount
Gotta rebuild the under city before we can park our mounts 😛
It's odd to think about how much will change soon 😕
Well "soon"
Indeed, though I do like large changes to things like that!
Keeps it interesting
Introduces a wistful memory of the past
Yup
But the whole zones will change, the boat to / from storm wind, the zeppelins outside under city
Very interesting.
I do wonder what will happen to Gilneas, but perhaps this a topic better suited to #ptr-or-spoilers
Maybe aye,
So, Disco Elf subrace. Alliance or Horde?
And what should the other faction get? Ogres, Arakkoa, Ethereals? Doing what dance? MMD? Bollywood?
Oh maybe Furbolg
disco elf?
No, alliance shoudl have furbolgs.
Horde gets Ethereals. Cause they compete with goblins.
hi
Morning
The Undercity will never return, if the Alliance can help it.
We should fill it with concrete.
how u gonna get concrete into Undercity if you can even get that much, if any?
pour it down the western tunnel and let gravity do the work I guess
Everyone good luck!
You could've asked me in the Xmog page. But either way, shamans have a casting animation stance that they stand in, so I cast a spell before I take a screenshot and boom, sexy stance.
ah
Whenever it rains I go around putting wet paint signs everywhere
kek
Q: Updated Worgen and Goblin character models?
A: Not for 8.0 but we are actually currently working on them. We need to tweak goblins but they are pretty good. We know people are unhappy with the female worgens and we'll be offering more facial features eventually.
Are they serious? We're unhappy with male and female worgens
male worgen aren't that bad
they're mostly in need of an upres
female worgen are... ech
Males are tolerable
Are you serious? It looks like the Male Worgen are grimacing in pain. it's supposed to be a snarl. not whatever that was.
You try to transform like that
Weren't alpha femworgen models quite fine, but some people complained they weren't "sexy" enough so they changed them?
they have eyeliner which looks ridiculous 😹
Well, they're literally talking wolves so they're not supposed to look sexy. that's the point of them being worgen.
Alpha was a billion times better
the alpha female worgen looked much better
Must be a pain to put mascare on fur every morning
http://prntscr.com/h8d5hn @icy spire
They didn't mention that trolls would get straight backs and this comment is assuming that they did
Zandalari stand upright
Shrug Well, half disappointment then
same
I'm ok with shlumpy Darkspear
@spice goblet hes not the only one that talked about it
"your orc is (for example)." It's the part that let think that others races will also have a chiropractor
well, regardless.. they never mentioned darkspear trolls getting upright posture in the Q&A.
the commentors are assuming something based on what Inay just said
Hmm. Does 5 generations of Night Elf in 10 000 years is too much? doing family tree for characters
lol
'lol''s not an answer :c
I mean, what are the details? It's not th best wording.
That wasn't really a good question
I'm doing a family tree of night elves, with one of my character being the ancestor, and the druid being the little last one. I put 5 generations between them (So the ancestor is her great-great-great-great-great grandmother) but since the night elves are immortal, I wonder if it's not too much generations for the race/time period
A night elf is an adult around 400 to 450 years. It is very rare for them to have kids. The Stormrage twins were insane news across the elven kingdoms. It just didn't happen. That's why there was such a gathering to see the twins and the one with the golden eyes. If you can fit 5 generators in the 10K years and match up birthdates without it being weird and the entire family line having luck with kids, I'd ay go for it.
^ That's what i would have thought
The Aspects ended up offering to bless the new world tree and thus restore the night elves immortality but Malfurion said no
was Teldrassil the world tree?
Yes
