I would be ALL OVER THAT
#no-wow-discussion
neon hinge
Is it even the complete collection?
steady fossil
๐
neon hinge
45 volumes says
orchid wind
I don't think it's all out in English anyway
neon hinge
Viz is quick making it tbh so idk
steady fossil
If you don't put a grilled cheese on the grill, is it just cheese?
cosmic zephyr
What does muting someone do? Make them not be able to post?
neon hinge
Yes
steady fossil
yeah Ferib kept spamming yesterday :p
cosmic zephyr
And the other day wanted to cheat to get original item -.-
steady fossil
hey that's my name
neon hinge
Yep
wide cipher
If the cheese isn't melted
It is a cheese sandwich
If the cheese is melted, it's a grilled cheese
lone frigate
Where's Sas?
cosmic zephyr
Where do I ask about the premium thing,
lone frigate
That would be Sas... but idk where Sas is... hasn't been on all day
cosmic zephyr
Okie
frosty tundra
Been at a work conference all day today and tomorrow. What's up?
lone frigate
Just wanted to mess with you again lol ๐ then littlefay actually needed you
wide cipher
littlefay, there are instructions to get your premium color if you read them over at #welcome-rules, I believe
if sas hasn't already taken care of you XD
cosmic zephyr
It's not to get the colour i wanted to find out how the actual payment works
neon hinge
frosty tundra
No, sorry that's not possible and likely never will be.
cosmic zephyr
Okie I thought that was an options, so the only option we have is to pay via credit card?
frosty tundra
That or PayPal which has other options.
cosmic zephyr
Sorry if that was a stupid question
Oooh okie ty I'll go figure out how to use PayPal ๐
frosty tundra
Nah ;)
lone frigate
That would be difficult to pursuade Blizz to give wowhead access to their billing systems...
cosmic zephyr
Blizz give wowhead permission to use something from blizz
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Profile id or something
neon hinge
That's just an API
frosty tundra
The OAuth system doesn't give us much of anything really.
cosmic zephyr
Oooh okie
frosty tundra
Just the character list and some unique ID number, no account info other than that.
cosmic zephyr
Ooh okie thank you
steady fossil
yes
orchid wind
gg
steady fossil
if you go in google chrome and press ctrl+W, you unlock a secret level
lone frigate
@neon hinge got you a few more lol probably over 10
neon hinge
cool
lone frigate
๐
steady fossil
I have good news and bad news
bad news: my internet went down temporarily
good news: I got ice cream while it was down.
steady fossil
what ever could you be alarmed about the phrase, "did somebody say...."?
neon hinge
I play in WrA.
steady fossil
steady fossil
Above image linked: Thunderfury, Hallowed Blade of the Windlord
Picture: Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
I like the rogue one more tbh
neon hinge
Is 2.0
steady fossil
I wanna get it some day
too lazy to play a rogue tho
I'm lazy because I never have enough energy
2.0 thunderfury looks like Varian's weapon kinda actually
neon hinge
so so
cosmic zephyr
๐ค
steady fossil
this is so dumb that it's funny
https://imgur.com/gallery/PJAcF
neon hinge
wat XD
steady fossil
๐คท
neon hinge
[ http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/361/4362/1 ]
Hunter x Hunter 361
Withdrawal
By: No author defined.
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 2:10:33 -0700
oooh boooy
BEEEEEEEN ABOUT DAMN TIME
random mantle
who's good at maths
steady fossil
I know some stuff
steady fossil
zero minus x minus 500 minus x minus 1000?
wat o.o
I'm not sure I understand what you just posted lol
random mantle
steady fossil
oh
random mantle
or is it 1:25
steady fossil
I'm not sure I understand still ._.
the red is 1/4th (which is .25 m) of 1.000 metres
is this 1000 or 1 m? :p
steady fossil
?? wat
neon hinge
Is a scale problem
steady fossil
wait, so the end is 1000 metres? or is it 1 metre with many 0s after a decimal?
random mantle
its 1000 meters
steady fossil
I forgot EU has decimals to denote figure places :p
steady fossil
so wouldn't that be 1:25000? ๐ค
if you're converting 1 CM into 250 metres lol
I'm not sure what the context of the problem is so I'm a little lost ^^
steady fossil
the red (assuming it's half of 500) would be 250m
.-.
That's all I can gather from that picture tbh. I don'tknow how that fits into being 1 cm
but there should be 25000 cm in 250 m if that's what you're wondering about that
random mantle
its 1:25000
steady fossil
cosmic zephyr
Yay
random mantle
you had to convert the 250M to CM
steady fossil
y tho
That's just confusing for the reason of doing it. They should have just asked "how many centimetres in 250 metres" D:
neon hinge
steady fossil
I like maths :D
neon hinge
I used to like maths
random mantle
i made banana eclaire's yesterday
with pastry cream, banana slices and whip cream
and yellow fondant with cocolate stripes ontop
steady fossil
I wish I could have all these pastries you keep making
I would eat them all and maybe get fat one day
random mantle
steady fossil
timber crag
STEAM SALE GOES UP
STEAM STORE GOES DOWN.
spring heath
lol
unreal bluff
karmic steeple
I should really stop entering the givaways... even if I do win I'll never be able to respond in time to get the item... guess it comes with haveing an 18 hour day for the Army
orchid wind
you could always get discord on your phone.
be like "I gotta piss"
and quickly accept your prize
XD
inland rain
Is it just me or does it seem like it has been taking longer and longer for images to load on Discord lately.
spice goblet
Just you
inland rain
Yeah idk if its something with my internet or wwhat the problem is...
inland rain
ah ok good to know, thanks!
cosmic zephyr
I only use phone version of discord but it has been lagging a little bit last couple days
spring heath
My issues varies on the day. Sometimes nothing wants to load, sometimes everything is fine.
spice goblet
wide cipher
The high today is 117. That is 17 over the 'record' high that was set ... last year. and 20 points above the old record set in the 90's.
Sure. Global warming is definitely a myth.
bleak bloom
117 the world would boil
wide cipher
Our world here in the desert IS boiling
I bumped the back of my leg against the metal part of my seat yesterday in my car and have a 1st degree BURN there.
bleak bloom
i mean boil like let water stand out there and in a few minutes it would be steam
wide cipher
I'm pretty sure I could make that happen.
unreal bluff
@wide cipher AZ?
wide cipher
Actually our kitchen gets so warm in the summer that we have to put our potatoes and onions in the fridge or they spoil in 3 days
NV
unreal bluff
I know they had to cancel a bunch of flights in Phoenix the other day because the air was so hot planes literally couldn't fly because the air density was too low
wide cipher
Las Vegas
unreal bluff
Also @bleak bloom I think she means Fahrenheit, not Celsius
bleak bloom
Celsius everywhere! embrace the truth!
unreal bluff
47 degrees in Centigrade
neon hinge
7/9.. here we go!
steady fossil
you're 7 feet and 9 inches tall? ๐ค
steady fossil
I should make a real world map that looks like this
https://i.imgur.com/ur3ER6C.png
cosmic zephyr
That could be cool
neon hinge
cosmic zephyr
We need to force blizzard to give us this arcane pretty bird mount
I don't care if we have to kill khadgar for it
random mantle
random mantle
i miss the good ol shows
neon hinge
Android apps?
random mantle
ive got Apple pie, double chocolate cake, cupcakes and brownies
fresh osprey
orchid wind
oo double chocolate cake cupcakes and brownies..
apple pie is meh iin that
I'd go for the cake and brownies since they're both chocolate
unreal bluff
Nobody liked my pokemon pun yesterday?
random mantle
I discovered a amazing tv show
Been binge watching it all night
Its called "Orphan Black"
unreal bluff
Ahhh Orphan Black! That show is awesome. I'm very far behind, though.
vestal osprey
Hey, anyone here who could help me with the spectate quest in HS on eu?
fallen nexus
๐น
steady fossil
:dragon_face:
spring heath
๐บ
chrome tapir
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steady fossil
Wonder woman was great
ashen parrot
lol that's a lot of reactions
grizzled belfry
Btw, autism is not the same as mental retardation, for which word "retarded" is being used
steady fossil
idk why people use it as a replacement. >.>
grizzled belfry
These problems are on different levels
wide cipher
Yes, we are aware of that.
however, calling something 'retarded' uses those people who were born mentally retarded as a negative slur, and that's not cool eithr.
We only started on the autism talk when someone called us autistic for speaking up against using 'retarded' as a slur.
grizzled belfry
The world is that, so whatever you say, somebody will be offended, so what, keep silent all the time?
steady fossil
their comment is gone now btw
it was between mine and Adhara's
https://i.imgur.com/BRozC5I.png
steady fossil
RIP
There are ways to speak without using slurs. ^^
Especially ones meant to insult or target certain people
grizzled belfry
But the fact is, being called "retarded" means that you have smth wrong with brains, and if that's bad, why it can't be used like any other word? Ofc there are ppl with that illness, but there's nothing to do with that. And I think slurs make language more emotional (that's why Russian has many variations of them)
wide cipher
Because the people who are legitimately mentally retarded were born that way and they shouldn't have to hear other people sling the word 'retarded' at every stupid thing that people see.
Insults made at the expense of a wide group of people are not okay
grizzled belfry
And that will change their problem somehow?
wide cipher
No, but it will stop them from feeling awful about something they can't control and allow them to feel more positive about themselves when people aren't conflating them with every stupid thing that ever happened.
Because Retarded does NOT equal 'stupid'
grizzled belfry
As I said, it equals that must have smth wrong with brains to do something that called retarded
steady fossil
They're not the same, though.
grizzled belfry
Ppl usually make fun of slutterers in films or some stand-up shows. So what, I must be heavily offended by any of them? And that's also mental problem, btw
wide cipher
Making fun of it in films is exactly the problem.
No one should be making fun of ANY of that, except the people who HAVE the problems to begin with.
grizzled belfry
You just must live with your problem and accept it, not make everyone around you respect it
steady fossil
Nobody's telling you what to be offended by.
wide cipher
I am only telling you to choose your words in a more sensitive fashion for the very wide range audience in this public channel
steady fossil
This isn't about being offended at all. This is about respecting people.
wide cipher
^
grizzled belfry
But still that word is used in public very often, not like word as c**t or f****t
Ok, discord deleted my *
It just got meaning of stupidness, not exactly mentally ill ppl
wide cipher
JUST because it is used in public by DISrespectful people, does not mean that YOU should, if you respect people
grizzled belfry
I do not :D
wide cipher
Well that is obvious.
steady fossil
It wasn't long ago people used certain words in the same exact fashion that were "meant" for people with darker skin.
wide cipher
And I will continue to correct you, despite this.
grizzled belfry
As you wish
wide cipher
Because I can't stand the way gamers use things like 'retarded', 'autistic', and 'gay' as slurs, and I'm not going to tolerate it any longer. It excludes those people from our community and makes them feel like lesser human beings.
Which they are not.
grizzled belfry
You'll have to work much harder to replace them from gaming community
Cause these words are used not only in English speaking community, and not only gaming
ashen parrot
Been meaning to say something about this as someone who doesn't like to, nor uses such terms - being overbearingly confrontational will yield the opposite results as a general rule. Plus, it's a stressful, tiring activity - that's why I don't jump into every discussion despite being compelled to be as argumentative as possible.
wide cipher
If no one says anything, that's the same as saying it's okay
And i wasn't overly confrontational in the beginning of all this, either.
It just got a little heated when the conversation came back around.
You'd be like those people at the recent science convention that watched as the male host constantly talked over the one female scientist an then mansplained her own research to her, and wouldn't have spoken up. Why. Because that's just how it is? Because people get confrontational when their views are challenged? Someone did speak up. And half the audience came by to thank her for finally saying what they all didn't have the spine to do.
Someone has to say something. When I have the energy to do so, it's gonna be me.
I'm not going to continue to sit here as a person who is often the brunt of these slurs and just let people walk all over me.
Nothing changes if we all just go with the flow. The third Paladin tenet is 'Tenacity'. It means - the world wasn't changed in a day. So you have to be patient, but you still have to try.
I am well aware that Harbinger isn't going to change, he told me so. But maybe someone else sitting in the chat will think twice the next time. I don't know. If that bothers you, just put me on block.
random mantle
wide cipher
ooo, that looks yummy!
random mantle
Brownies with cranberries inside and ontop with chocolate bits and cinnamon onto0
grizzled belfry
:3
wide cipher
The cat really does follow you everywhere doesn' the?
grizzled belfry
Kitty
random mantle
The cat does follow me everywhere yes
random mantle
I might have stolen ownership then
Its my bf's cat
But i give kitty so much love
He's like "you are mine"
grizzled belfry
random mantle
I love my kitty
ashen parrot
So I had to do something, but my point wasn't to be apathetic or to ignore the problem and I will basically never recommend that approach. My point was to not allow one's emotions to excessively flow into the discussion since that can result in some very undesirable outcomes, such as setting back any efforts towards a cause you might want to see reach fruition. Not asking for clinical or robotic responses - just calm and clear-headed ones.
Choose your battles and all that.
this chat can now go back to enjoying cats.
brave knot
timber crag
grizzled belfry
Too cute
steady fossil
where did these fluffy kittens come from
grizzled belfry
Arkhem horror
Steph is awesome cause she can respect all people, whoever they are. I hate world and humanity too much for that :(
spring heath
I hate the public as much as the next barista but that's on an individual, highly selfish angle where people truly make themselves appear like hateful and almost self-oblivious assholes to service people.
ashen parrot
I respect everyone's right to live as well as their humanity. Loathe as I might be of any given individual, I recognize people can do stupid things, people can do horrible things - this doesn't make them less human or worth dehumanizing but rather, it just shows what people are capable of and need to be held accountable for.
random mantle
I was just asked for marrige by the guy ive been dating for 2 months
bleak bloom
considdering you write that here now it didnt end good for him
random mantle
He arranged a limosine and waited for me in the forest with white balloons etc
But i said no because im not even ready for marrige yet
ashen parrot
that seems awfully soon
wide cipher
Awwwww, that does seem like a nice effort on their part but if you're not ready then you're not ready, and it's definitely better to turn them down.
My husband and I went from not together to together and enganged from March to July. It happens that fast for some. But if you're not comfy, then you just aren't.
spring heath
My husband and I probably wouldn't even be married if not for the Army saying we needed to (cuz kids). We were perfectly happy not bringing the government into it. But it is what it is. We are all ready for different things at different stages in our lives.
cosmic zephyr
I don't know why it's gross but if you not comfortable I would say no
steady fossil
Also I have pictures of my dog going fast
Also it's ridiculously hot where I live and I have no air conditioning
90 degrees inside and out :/
unreal bluff
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steady fossil
It's supposed to be 95 tomorrow... Why
I don't think I've ever been in heat above 95 to 100 (Pennsylvania) so this is going to be an interesting wild ride.
wide cipher
close the windows and blinds during the day unless there's a cool breeze. dim the lights. At night, put box fans in the windows and pull in the cooler air. take them out andn close everything up the next morning. etc etc
Also invest in the towels that stay cold and can be wrapped around yours and the doggos necks
unreal bluff
Do keep in mind that computers generate a LOT of heat. If you can tolerate it, have your rig turned off (or at least hibernating) as much of the day as possible.
steady fossil
I have a laptop
And uh.. I know that....
I had to make my own bootleg "cooling system" because my old computer didn't have a proper case to fit the graphics card. ._.
It was also really hot in my room in summer since I was in the top floor of the house and Alaska has no air conditioners because they didn't need them
unreal bluff
Laptops aren't significantly less hot in my experience
steady fossil
I mean, they're hot if you use the actual keys but I don't ^^
spring heath
They stay cooler if you use a seperate keyboard?
spring heath
has an HP Omen that gets really hot
steady fossil
kinda yeah since your hand warms up the laptop itself, but also more comfortable to have a cool separate keyboard than using the laptop one
my laptop has air intake through the keys
unreal bluff
I dunno about them staying cooler but you definitely wouldn't notice the heat as much ๐
wide cipher
my laptop was built with a hard wired fan button and the fan is smack under the keys, over the gpu, and it vents out the back
which is really, really nice compared to the old one that vented out the sides
and had no fan button
unreal bluff
Note that my laptops have always been MacBooks, and they don't seem to be well endowed in the fan department
shrug
wide cipher
That's 'cause they're tiny XD
spring heath
I've been thinking about getting a laptop fan for mine, if only to get it up a little from the surface of the table
wide cipher
I used to use something like that for my old one
steady fossil
a laptop fan wouldn't help mine unfortunately. :/
wide cipher
it didn't help as much as I thought but it was a BIT better
steady fossil
the air intake on the bottom is so miniscule compared to the top where the graphics card is closer located physically
spring heath
I used to use a couple pop bottle caps to lift up the back of it to help with air flow but the child stole them
unreal bluff
More serious advice for @steady fossil I really recommend going to Walmart or Best Buy or wherever you buy appliances nearby. Get a window air conditioner. The small ones are about $100.
steady fossil
idk why we haven't gotten one yet
unreal bluff
Possibly less at Walmart
wide cipher
If you have side-slide windows, they take a bit of doing to install
steady fossil
we have weird windows everywhere
unreal bluff
They also make portable floor units. They have wheels
They're basically about the size of a whole-house humidifier
wide cipher
We bought one of those for the office. It still needs to vent out the window but it's less of a profile so your complex may not notice
steady fossil
we probably actually just need a de-humidifier imo
wide cipher
Also it was 400 dollars
steady fossil
it's not so much the heat but the humidity
unreal bluff
And they come with a hose that you just hook up to the window to vent
And yeah they cost more.
Eff humidity. Seriously.
steady fossil
Alaska had none so when it gets hot and humid here it really shocks my body and I feel sleepy ._.
steady fossil
It just didn't. Idk what caused it though
we'd get the same temperatures as anywhere else in the summer but the humidity was much less so it felt cooler
spring heath
Perhaps moisture just doesn't hang in the air there?
steady fossil
we also have a ton of wildfires for probably the same reason
wide cipher
that's so weird 'cause the first thing I think of is all that snow up there
cosmic zephyr
Dry heat is better than humid heat
steady fossil
well I mean
steady fossil
Alaska is basically twice the size of texas
so its environment changes vastly in every valley
unreal bluff
The only advantage dry heat has over humid heat is that your sweat can actually evaporate
spring heath
And I agree. Sweat helps relieve dry heat. Humidity just clings and is awful
unreal bluff
Your body is still overheated
wide cipher
It has its issues, and honestly? After it hits 105 it doesn't matter at all, it's still just unbearably hot
spring heath
Bah my phone typing is slow
steady fossil
there's definitely places like Juneau that rained all year but where I was it was dry as hell in summer and snowed way too much in winter, but not as bad as other places higher in altitude
cosmic zephyr
When it gets hot here it's just really sticky and disgusting
wide cipher
sweat, no sweat, you just want to fall asleep and die
spring heath
Autumn is superior in almost every way
unreal bluff
I'm a quarter Norwegianโฆany day that gets above 80 F is hot to me. ๐
wide cipher
And I come from a place that gets to 98% humidity from April to November
wide cipher
I thought the 'dry heat' would be amazing, but it just isn't XD
steady fossil
the snow lingers so much and the winter arrives so fast it's like a week of either
cosmic zephyr
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wide cipher
There is no autumn or spring in the desert either
It's about 8 months of summer with some winter thrown in
steady fossil
like "spring" was 3 months of snow with slush on the ground until the slush dried up lol
spring heath
Yall missin out
cosmic zephyr
Desert must be crazy place to live
ashen parrot
dry heat beats humid heat by a mile
it still sucks to roast inside of a house though
not to mention, humidity is higher inside a building
ashen parrot
humans expel a very high amount of moisture in general, but inanimate objects can too, depending on the material - since within might vaporize.
steady fossil
We have 3 dogs and 3 people in an apartment + no air conditioning and hot heat outside. :I
a bunch of people are saying that "90 degrees is abnormal" but this has happened like every week or two
cosmic zephyr
I do think in general it's getting hotter
steady fossil
Alaska definitely was from my experience
every year we had more wildfires and "new record" consistently ._.
ashen parrot
statistically, it is
with that said, currently i'm pretty sure there's a widespread heat wave
steady fossil
oh for sure, I remember the first week we got here itw as like 90 or somethign as well and it was all across the bay area
steady fossil
Seattle to Gig Harbor and more
ashen parrot
so puget sound
steady fossil
._. Yes.
I don't know the correct terms so sorry for screwing that up
It's a bay for all I care
ashen parrot
true
just i usually think SF
but yeah seattle area's been pretty damn hot the last few days
wide cipher
Even over here they're calling it a heat wave, it's supposed to be in the low hundreds and has been setting new records instead
116-119 daily
unreal bluff
"But but global climate change is a myth!" โpeople who don't watch the news
ashen parrot
it's a record breaking heat wave
and i'm going to repeat what I said elsewhere.
"i know you're joking but just as it's fallacious to point out the nonexistence of global warming on a cold day, the same applies to a hot day - it's classic texas sharpshooter."
better to look at trends over a longer period. Citing a record breaking heat wave each individual time isn't really going to persuade many people.
steady fossil
uh what
idk why we're talking about the process of argumentation about climate change ._.
But I suppose this is relevant now lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqTOEospfo&feature=youtu.be
wide cipher
OKay well i'm just going to put this out there.
Before 2016, the last time the heat got above 98 degrees in Las Vegas last monday, was 1990.
In 2016, the record broke at 101. Last Monday, the new record was 110.
If that's not proof of climate change I dont know what is.
That's TEN YEARS without a 'record beaking heat wave' and then two in succession, ten degrees hotter than the last record
steady fossil
Well, as far as I remember, that actually isn
t --
rip
That's isn't EXACTLY proof, but it's evidence, kinda
like it supports it but, more points are needed but there definitely are more points
the thing is though that the records are being broken for the highs over and over and over and the lows aren't.
wide cipher
Dude the proof is out there everywhere. It's not like this is a myth. The evidence is SO out there that last summer's Olympics had REAL NUMBERS AND GRAPHS in their opening ceremonies. You want more proof? Last winter? the poles were THIRTY DEGREES WARMER. That's a HUGE deal.
ashen parrot
but these were also widely gathered and over longer periods. They weren't the product of fallacy but a theory that continues to be proven year by year through ongoing analysis.
wide cipher
I mean even Alaska is feeling the heat and Europeans are dying from it. When is enough going to be enoing?
... enough, what was my spelling doing there
ashen parrot
I suggest you read what I said again - I never said global warming did not exist, but rather that there is a right way to persuade deniers and there's a wrong way. The wrong way is to resort to the same illogical arguments they use and yes, pulling out a single article (or a cluster basically saying the same thing) saying "record breaking heatwave" is usually not good enough - there's a reason multiple primary sources are recommended in an essay format.
wide cipher
Yeah, but none of that is going to make an impact either. Because the people who don't want to believe it exists have already viewed and experienced the proof, and they don't care.
ashen parrot
True, but at least you can sound more reasonable by comparison. There's very little to be gained by descending to their level. In fact, it just gives them more ammo.
wide cipher
You're always talking about 'that's not going to persuade x person' and I'm sitting here going - those people? The ones over THERE? Those people will never be persuaded. So what do you do at that point?
Because 'being the bigger person' doesn't... actually... win any wars.
I wish it did.
ashen parrot
A lot of polarization is done by basically airing propaganda in the form of the most unreasonable peers of the other side.
You do it to not become part of the propaganda at the very least.
Not just because "it's the better thing to do" or some other ethical or moral reason.
And if you manage to pull a few from their side that aren't as extreme as the propaganda shows, that's a bonus.
steady fossil
Sometimes I'd just like to talk about the experiences I've had rather than it turning into a political mess... :/
wide cipher
Unfortunately climate change comes up whenever people try to confirm or deny that the world is getting warmer. =
Sorry, KB
I don't know how to turn my politics brain off.
For you, I will try. But climate change shouldn't even be about politics. it should be about science. And the science is real.
ashen parrot
oh if only.
spice goblet
I'm sorry but no. Climate change has virtually nothing to do with politics. It does have to do with fact.
steady fossil
It has political answers, just not the ones our leaders are suggesting.
spice goblet
And what are these political answers?
steady fossil
spice goblet
I'm looking for a subscript on that video
ashen parrot
it's been politicized mostly because economy reasons, among others tbh.
basically, $$$
spice goblet
While i'm looking for the script, here's an article for the rest of you to read: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/depoliticizing-climate-change/
ashen parrot
nice as the article is, it's not just deniers that need to be persuaded.
or rather, the ones that need to change.
spice goblet
Some people are so trapped in their own narcissism and stubborn-ness that they're never going to be persuaded, no matter how many facts we present to them
But Steph already said something like that
ashen parrot
they're not particularly common tbh. Not to mention, nothing to gain from talking down to them, if at all. Just have to win over the ones who might have a shred of a chance of being persuaded. I think that's worth using the standard art of persuasion.
spice goblet
I agree, we do need to use the standard art of persuasion, but in cases like Climate Change when the facts are blatantly obvious that finding resources shouldn't even be necessary, because people need to use just a shred of common sense to realize that the world is getting hotter/ colder simultaneously
ashen parrot
i think you have a little too much faith in other people if you think they all have common sense (or should). Beisdes, never hurts to instill that wisdom. Considering how many people have fallen prey to having an inflated perception of universal literacy of a given concept, it would be helpful to be a bit more humble in that regard.
But if you don't want to have the conversation, no one's forcing you to. I'll just do it, or maybe I'll stand aside, who knows?
spice goblet
I don't know where I implied that I believe everyone has common sense. My point is that some people are so stupid that they need more than actual fact to believe in anything
cosmic zephyr
There's a thing I heard once, if you can get people to believe something they will laugh in the face of an explanation of the bigger picture or something along those lines
spice goblet
And sorry, i have really bad connection rn
ashen parrot
What you're basically saying, EdgyTroll, is that people should either have common sense or be abandoned for not having it. It is still a matter of faith, but I just happened to express it in a positive way. There's plenty of other mechanations out there to deal with shortcomings, but this particular flavor of intelligence and wisdom isn't necessarily something easily weeded out by natural selection, so I think it's better to try to improve it - keyword being try.
spice goblet
Martin Luther King tried to improve it and look how that turned out
ashen parrot
Not to mention, leaving such individuals to their own devices won't end well for others.
frosty tundra
I just remembered I never set up a weekend giveaway on Discord. Oops. ๐
ashen parrot
So even if for some reason I didn't have any sense of caring for such people (believe me, it's a lot of effort to even try), I'd still help for the sake of preventing others from getting hurt.
frosty tundra
No one said anything though I guess no one cares. lol
ashen parrot
Eh, what MLK did helped I think. We take it for granted today but even after a few decades, times have changed.
spice goblet
MLK sought to eliminate discrimination entirely. He didn't.
ashen parrot
Of course
but it would be pretty unrealistic to expect those changes to happen even over a few generations
spice goblet
It would be pretty unrealistic to expect those changes to happen to everyone because some people are so brain-dead
ashen parrot
Fact of the matter is those beliefs that would enable discrimination aren't going to go quietly or be eradicated entirely, especially over some broad message or even more especially, over outright hostility.
spice goblet
You said what I just said but probably in a better way
ashen parrot
But I didn't say people are brain dead. I said the beliefs aren't just going to go away easily.
And I think it's far more than the very clearly defined fault of people who would cling to such beliefs.
spice goblet
Well, i don't hesitate to insult select people
ashen parrot
And that's part of the problem
spice goblet
Yeah, I realize I'm not helping but neither are they tbh
ashen parrot
But if you're so noble, then why don't you help? If you fight for some great cause, why don't you help?
Therein lies the hypocrisy.
spice goblet
I don't know where I implied that i'm noble?
cosmic zephyr
That twitch thing was so trippy. They could read the comments while they were talking about stuff it's like holy shit
ashen parrot
I get it's stupidly difficult to fight for one's sense of justice, nobility, whatever it is without giving in to passion. Intentions are generally pretty good, but somewhere along the line it turns into hostility, attacks on other people for what they believe in, instead of a critical discussion, preferably about the other's belief.
cosmic zephyr
Sas when did you mention. A giveaway
ashen parrot
Idk, you seem to have good intentions in some senses.
That's why I'm pointing this out.
Because there is such a thing as expressing good intentions well.
spice goblet
The select people I insult are either neo-nazis or damn near close to that
ashen parrot
Right, and they have beliefs worth reviling, but is it really worth it, or is it just to satisfy some personal catharsis?
To slake the thirst for one's sense of "justice?"
spice goblet
Not really worth it. I honestly try not to hang around them too often but they're more common than you'd think
I mostly insult them in my head
ashen parrot
Well as long as it's in your head, I guess that's fine.
Just don't do it out loud, and we, as a society, might get somewhere.
...big emphasis on might.
spice goblet
Well, we're still in the same place, of conflict, we were when humankind was birthed so I doubt it
ashen parrot
Anyways, back on the whole MLK and fight for equality thing. I think one reason it's not taking so well is because of the problem of exclusion.
And in that, the issue of class.
spice goblet
It doesn't really exclude anyone though. It's mostly about including people
small emphasis on mostly
ashen parrot
That would be the ideal, but somewhere there's been some distortion in the message.
Fact of the matter is radicalizing advocacy for a given group of individuals can turn into something pretty nasty indeed.
I guess in that sense, people might just be constructing beliefs wrong, since radicalization is an ever-present danger.
Besides, if we're going to discuss equality
do you know one group that tends to not be represented well, if ever?
Asians.
Do you want to know why?
it's actually pretty interesting.
spice goblet
That's one group of many and because non-asians are either jealous of them or they are just too ignorant to understand anything than what's in front of them
ashen parrot
I think it's a fair bit simpler
spice goblet
they being non-asians
ashen parrot
Frankly, I have no resent for a lack of advocacy for asian people.
spice goblet
Why is that?
ashen parrot
Class.
Even against white people, within the United States, Asians overall have a higher average income.
spice goblet
Well, that fits into "non-asians are jealous of them"
ashen parrot
this doesn't fit well with a minority narrative of being discriminated against and kept down, even though there are pretty poor Asian families living in the U.S.
I met many. I dated a person from one.
wide cipher
And they are definitely still discriminated against and subject to stereotypes
ashen parrot
yes, they are, in that sense
but I was more referring to how they aren't included in the minorities are getting shafted narrative.
The two I can generally think of are blacks and hispanics.
To be fair, looking at statistics, it's understandable why.
spice goblet
Can you reword that?
ashen parrot
I'm basically trying to say in some weird sense, there is a strong advocacy for helping out lower income families and the like, but it's conflated with other concepts of minority like race.
I think this actually causes confusion.
In a sense, they are separate issues, though they are intertwined too.
It's...complicated.
wide cipher
Interest is talking about Classism and Racism and where they do and don't intersect I think.
ashen parrot
basically.
the problem is, especially this electoral season, there's been a fair bit of binding the two together.
spice goblet
Well, it depends, tbh. Some people don't want to help low-income families either, regardless of the race of said family, or anyone other than themselves
ashen parrot
Like for example, discriminating against whites, white males, etc, as if they're all very well off.
When statistically, this isn't exactly true, as there are extremes and many fall pretty low.
steady fossil
Not recieving any help whatsoever despite having been poor and getting worse until very recently
My literal situation for the past months.
spice goblet
You are entitled to governmental assistance, depending on what country you live in
ashen parrot
This is true, EdgyTroll. Rightist ideology in fact strongly supports the idea of a class system and allowing it to stay in place in the strongest sense, mostly by being laissez-faire. However, more central-right ideals are usually okay with some sort of safety net while still maintaining the concept of class.
steady fossil
Depends on state, and yes. I'm in the US. We did have goernmental assistance, but you have to remember a large portion of things are privatised.
wide cipher
Yeah, but when your government thinks you 'make too much' even though you don't... that's where i'm at.
steady fossil
Contract work was nice for that at the very least
wide cipher
If we even qualified for SNAP I'd have 3 less ulcers over keeping my family fed
steady fossil
whoa that's an expensive giveaway
ashen parrot
yeah unfortunately the welfare system isn't particularly all there.
welfare traps, ugh.
steady fossil
On the other side of things though...
frosty tundra
Glad you like it. ๐ Figured I'd go up a tad to something pretty cool and Legion themed.
lone frigate
I was just looking at that last night, debating on buying it... hoping I win so I don't have to spend the $40 ๐
steady fossil
when it came to receiving assistance for gas money, they helped a ton. :p
But other things like dealing with the bank, mortgage, loans, etc. We got screwed over every single point of the way.
ashen parrot
i know tax deductions can be pretty generous on that too.
lone frigate
http://gear.blizzard.com/wow-legion/doomhammer-premium-replica this should be a giveaway too but I highly doubt that is within the budget lol
ashen parrot
Eh, Washington will be nicer I think.
frosty tundra
We've given one away before.
ashen parrot
The healthcare system is pretty good here, afaict.
wide cipher
It was really decent while I was living there if you mean WA
ashen parrot
it's a relatively decent state
lone frigate
Ohhhh yeah that's right... The contest I had no idea how to do lol ๐
ashen parrot
middling federal reliance. Relatively progressive even in a fiscal sense.
If this damn place had Google Fiber I'd say it's a great sell.
But for now I recommend San Francisco.
cosmic zephyr
I'm glad I live in Australia
lone frigate
I was also not sober and tired... then forgot about it, so that could be why
spice goblet
I think the majority of people on this Discord are open-minded and actually decent
steady fossil
Alaska has.. 80% reduction to natives and.. I can't remember the help from healthcare I got but I was able to get my wisdom teeth pulled.
spice goblet
Interest, thanks for conversing with me
ashen parrot
cheers.
spice goblet
<3
lone frigate
I want to move to Canada so bad but they get way too cold, they're the reason we get so cold in the winter lol
steady fossil
British Columbia
just like Washington, little bit colder.
And they're pretty much 100% English speaking if you fear French Fries
lone frigate
I remember 1 year, think it was like 2 or 3 years ago where we had actual temps of -100 and feels like was at -140 and that was because the wind was blowing south out of Canada so it dropped our temps
I'm 363 miles south of the Canada border
steady fossil
I'm probably a few hours drive I think
cosmic zephyr
363 miles is a lot right
lone frigate
Where are you? I can convert that to your metric
steady fossil
The very coldest I've experienced in Alaska was maybe -60 and possibly windchill but it's been so long ago, idk. I definitely remember -40 one winter though, but that was about 9 years ago. It's never hit that since.
360 miles is... 6 hour drive I think if you go at highway speeds? Maybe 5 hours?
lone frigate
5 1/2
steady fossil
A lot of speed limits I noticed here in WA are 60 rather than 65
lone frigate
My fiance could probably make it a 4 hour drive though, we usually go between 70 and 75
and our speed limit is 55 ๐
steady fossil
well it depends on the area but "top highway speed" I see here is pretty much 60 ._.
Most people go about 68-70 anyway
lone frigate
The state highways are 60-65, the county highways are 55-60
and interstates are 80-90
lone frigate
35W in Minneapolis is 85
steady fossil
Not that I want to push my car to that speed anyway though lol
lone frigate
It's actually good for your car if you go that fast steadily for a while... It'll clean it out... My vehicle loves driving in the cities and going faster... afterwards her engine sounds better and she accelerates better
By better I mean quieter and smoother
steady fossil
My tires are slightly uneven is why :p
lone frigate
Ah yeah, don't go that fast then... I can vision your wheel going faster than the vehicle lol
steady fossil
Certain speeds and angles make the steering wheel shake
steady fossil
It used to be a lot worse :D
lone frigate
No it doesn't... here I thought a bad wheel berring was bad
steady fossil
But we didn't have the money to fix it for a while
My vehicle also had a problem with the breaks at one point, the front left ones.
There's 2 sets of brakes that clamp down
also I meant to spell break as brake)
lone frigate
My vehicle was broken into in December and I'm still fixing their mess... Had to replace my steering column and next is electrical... so far it's costed me $418
steady fossil
One of the brakes became uneven (which "regularly" happens) and was constantly pressing down on the wheel. It would make the steering wheel massively shake. Eventually replacing the brakes fixed it just fine, but I remember feeling the rim and it was so hot I couldn't touch it
lone frigate
And the police still haven't found the people who did it, even after providing security camera footage
steady fossil
I've found sadly Police can't always help with incidents like that. :/
A friend of mine got rear-ended while she was driving. She had the license plate and person and everything but they never pursued her.
lone frigate
Yeah, if I was where I lived 3 years ago, they would've been found but small town cops are lazy
steady fossil
And the person who hit my friend also gave her a concussion to top it off and she has trouble remembering things now.
lone frigate
I know most of the police force here and they are good people, they're really nice and caring but their investigation skills need improvement
steady fossil
We knew she never got in trouble though because the person goes to the same school and never "disappeared" or anything >.>
Oh the people are nice in Alaska too
they're very understanding about many of the situations people are in
police* in Alaska rather as well
lone frigate
oooo not good, she have whiplash? My mom has that from our accident back in 2000
steady fossil
She was native so luckily she got all the care she could get ^^
but it was still damn expensive and I know the person was never "found"
lone frigate
Least she got the care she needed, hopefully she had good car insurance though
steady fossil
Car insurance, yes, but as far as I know it was still expensive ^^
lone frigate
Yikes
cosmic zephyr
That sounds really expensive
steady fossil
It was ._.
cosmic zephyr
Damn
steady fossil
https://www.pandora.com/station/play/3697469391847611697
I really like this pandora station
I wonder if it's possible to make a Discord Pandora bot ๐ค
worldly belfry
guys are @shadow juniper the real tradechat?
bleak bloom
yes
worldly belfry
ok
novel dirge
Hello!
steady fossil
RIP
neon hinge
i'm so happy rn
fu fu fu
@ashen parrot @timber crageSamurai https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/878642386351665153
Uh, Lone left again? Ah, he had irl issues iirc
unreal bluff
random mantle
Do you kill Kil'jaeden or do you Kill'Jaeden
neon hinge
wide cipher
So yah, that's not a "loan", it's an advance on the UK gaming tax credit.
And anything that one particular guy says I would take with a grain of salt, because he's a rival game developer on a witch hunt.
random mantle
so
the turkish police put a dutch news reporter in jail for doing a report on the illigal gay pride in turkey
cosmic zephyr
๐ฎ
random mantle
im so ashamed of having turkish blood
cosmic zephyr
You didn't do it
random mantle
i know but still
spring heath
The government is that which is oppressing
spring heath
๐ฆ
wide cipher
Yeah but i was asking if the DUTCH government could do anything
Since the reporter is Dutch.
random mantle
they said he was released
wide cipher
That's good
spice goblet
I hear Turkey banned evolution from being taught in schools
grizzled belfry
plus of having low weight, you can freely eat at 2 AM
wide cipher
Haha, I freely eat at 2am all the time. But we're night shift so we're eating dinner at 10:30-11:00 pm anyway. 2pm is usually 'night time snack' time
2am, rather
steady fossil
spice goblet
Awww. Cute doggo
timber crag
steady fossil
many oreo fluffs
timber crag
neon hinge
ashen parrot
but is it op?
random mantle
its ok
neon hinge
I prefer low priority queue
ashen parrot
comments section is full of blind hatred
to be honest, I'm not a fan of that one either.
I think it's an alright idea but actually hurts the entire playerbase.
ashen parrot
If you look up some facts on the relatively equivalent concept of crime, you would know that such punishment is also ineffective.
Penning all of those people together is a breeding ground for recividism.
But even worse, because it actually creates two separate playerbases, a relatively decent person's queue time just got longer.
neon hinge
They could go the Riot way too
ashen parrot
I don't think it's a good idea to punish people who did nothing wrong - increasing the queue time by adding two separate queue systems does exactly that.
neon hinge
"One of your reports has been effective"
ashen parrot
That's the one I generally push for.
I think an effective system is one that is actually used, and that's where the system should start anyways.
neon hinge
A guy tested the report system being toxic and asking for reports and got silenced
But er, a silence in comp is like~~
you can use voice chat so...
Er
ashen parrot
i thought you can't.
ashen parrot
i'm almost entirely sure they fixed that exception if the thread is to be believed. I doubt that would last long - Blizzard might be laissez-faire on their concept of implementing a decent system for reporting and appropriately punishing offenders, but that's too big of a vulnerability.
neon hinge
No no
He never said anything about voice
I thought voice wasn't affected by the silence ban
That's it
ashen parrot
i believe in the comments he did mention voice
What I am asking for is there to be some indicator to the team that a teammate (like myself) is unable to communicate. We can't use voice, we can't type, we can't even emote as far as I can tell. There's no way for us to even communicate that we can't communicate.
and based on the rest of his description, it screams he got hit by a Silence Penalty
a month of Silence after about 5 offenses seems about right.
ashen parrot
i actually prefer his idea since it doesn't even create an avenue for abuse.
i can imagine there's some people out there who would spam the comms wheel
ashen parrot
it's in heroes, so yeah, why not
either way
my problem is how the people in the comments are treating the guy.
neon hinge
They're treating toxicity with toxicity, amarite?
ashen parrot
it's a disgusting sort of irony
this is exactly the kind of "justice" I think is not ethical - not appropriate - not reasonable. The reason why I think surrendering the "high ground" makes no sense. It muddies the waters and makes those who want reform and a better society of better behaving players look bad.
neon hinge
This guy is a troll.
ashen parrot
I think brode has been hanging around on r/hearthstone too long. The shitposts have gotten to his head lol.
ashen parrot
that post got removed. wut.
neon hinge
Agreed
ashen parrot
not to mention I think he made his point.
neon hinge
YOU PET ME NOW
cosmic zephyr
Lol
neon hinge
Pretty accurated
ashen parrot
yeah lol
frosty tundra
Doing a fun giveaway tomorrow on the site. I'm hoping people like the premise. ๐
cosmic zephyr
So many giveaways
frosty tundra
So many = too many? Okay I'll tone it down.
No more giveaways until August at the earliest.
frosty tundra
๐
spring heath
I'm honestly hopping for an impromptu sale on Legion >.> I have $45 on m BNet balance and am just so shy of how much I need for the expac.
cosmic zephyr
I swear that twitch thing the other day was so crazy
cosmic zephyr
Legion at eb games here in Aus is 47
spring heath
Yeahhh but I can't buy that with American BNet Balance.
cosmic zephyr
Yea that's true
spring heath
I've been saving for it with gold.
spring heath
$50 essentially
cosmic zephyr
Oh okie it's like 70 here 69.95 lol
fervent crag
ashen parrot
keep in mind Mbps is different from MBps
ashen parrot
it would be more like 5-6 minutes
random mantle
1000 mbps is 1gb right?
cosmic zephyr
Still that's fast
ashen parrot
assuming the line isn't throttled and knowing Blizz, they'd probably throttle the speed themselves
cosmic zephyr
When my laptops working it's gonna take over an hour on library wifi
ashen parrot
Mb and MB are two different unit types. 8 Mb -> MB
cosmic zephyr
Oh oki
distant cobalt
maybe this helps: Mb = Megabit and MB = Megabyte. to avoid misunderstandings Mb is written Mbit.
cosmic zephyr
Oh okie
steady fossil
I love pogo
grizzled belfry
@random mantle 125 MB
random mantle
clicks on ornyx's profile pic (blizz person)
sees drag queen
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!
warm hedge
if theres anyone in here thats a snapchat user, snapchat recently did this thing where it allows you to pinch your photo screen as if you were to zoom out and turns the screen into a world map irl where you can see other snapstories and users/users locations. so if youre against that...turn on ghost mode to hide yourself in settings menu. because you can pretty much zoom down to street level to find what someones street is.
steady fossil
๐ค I don't but I'll pass the info along.
warm hedge
most people dont seem to care but i was passing this along for those gamers who are parents an kids use their phones sometimes etc
steady fossil
Or people who want to be left alone and don't want their privacy at risk. ^^
neon hinge
BTW, you said few days ago that the Army obligated you and your husband to marry?
spring heath
He never told me how it was said but essentially it was told that it would make the entry process much easier if we simply got married because we had kids.
spring heath
Taxes and such and such, I dunno. I didn't look into it because it's not like I was opposed to it, we've been together for ten year.
years*
neon hinge
Thanks! I had curiosity ^^"
spring heath
All good. ^_^
neon hinge
I wonder if happens the same here in Spain, since we have domestic partnership
Well, some USA states have it too now that I read...
steady fossil
I think (if I'm not mistake) "domestic partnership" was what homosexuals would use to be partnered before marriage was legal. But I could be wrong.
steady fossil
Before it was federally declared you had to travel across a state. For some that was a long and expensive journey
neon hinge
Wikipedia-sama says that at least
steady fossil
I don't know the specifics of it because I personally don't have plans to involve myself in such a way ^^
spring heath
Civil Union is also what it can be considered if religion is not involved, much like my aunt did when she married.
spring heath
America has... so much religion.
I'm Wiccan, personally, and my husband doesn't practice anything but religion cough Christianity cough is almost literally everywhere.
neon hinge
You should see my face when I have to pay taxes and the church doesn't
for my houses I mean
It pisses me off
steady fossil
๐ค I think that's everywhere
neon hinge
I guess. I still get angry anyways
Hence Church is basically a company nowdays.
If I make a company, I'd have to pay that tax
Yet the church doesn't.
neon hinge
And I can't care less if that's everywhyre
Nah, we just have Catholicism here.
Like in the old times
Ya know, raping children, saying gays are unnatural, that stuff
-Sorry for the "stereotype"
spring heath
I have to say, I like the new Pope
Haven't heard much about him recently but he seems the good kind of religious.
steady fossil
It's easy to lump up people on their labels and titles, when clearly (like in the case of the pope) it depends on the individual.
spring heath
People love the easy things.
neon hinge
@spring heath I like him too. He says clever stuff and is a bit more S.XXI than the others
-TBH I'm amazed he's not dead yet-
@steady fossil I know it depends on the individual, was just a rant, sorry, you're right.
spring heath
I'm rather glad he's not dead yet. X.x Especially considering the madness in people a certain election seemed to birth... or reveal.
frosty tundra
Curious if anyone likes the unique giveaway we posted today: http://www.wowhead.com/news=266551
steady fossil
GO TO SLEEP
steady fossil
THE BED BECKONS
cosmic zephyr
Lol
unreal bluff
wryyyyy finally chapter 4 of "Gorgeous Impact" is sketched and posted
slate skiff
Did you just
slate skiff
It's always better to start in the middle the beginning
Why would you wan to know what's going on
steady fossil
hi
neon hinge
Hi you
steady fossil
I dun see it anywhere on mine either
neon hinge
Necromancer is funny tbh. I'm trying it on stream rn
neon hinge
spice goblet
Instructions unclear, face stuck in blender
late abyss
It should Freemochu, you could always test it by calling yourself on a different phone to see ๐
random mantle
diff phone? man i dont have that kind of money
frosty tundra
I simply cannot decide which hoodie to get.
Like, I like the colors for Lucio but I don't play him much. Genji's colors are nice, but don't play him much. I like Zarya's colors a lot, but again... D.Va I play, but I can't get over how pink it is.
1st world problems.
spice goblet
I'm looking for a word that basically means "unwilling to succumb to the whims of authority." Can anyone help me with that?
steady fossil
"free-thinker"?
spice goblet
That works, but not quite
steady fossil
or just a thinker in general :^)
I can't think of a word specifically for that but I think there is one
spice goblet
I know there is one, it's just not explained in the way I put it
I just can't remember it rn
gleaming gorge
I wish the hoodies were embroidered, it would cost more, but I have bad experience with printing on fleece type material, just doesn't last as long ๐ฆ
frosty tundra
Yea, I'm told they're pretty damn nice so hoping the quality is high enough to be useful.
I grabbed Roadhog and D.Va
gleaming gorge
That's cool, I know Blizzard is usually pretty good with the quality, I'm just skiddish about it lol
frosty tundra
J!NX really, in this case anyhow
gleaming gorge
True
I bet the Pharah and Mercy ones will be nice, might get the D.Va one this round
cosmic zephyr
You don't like pink sas?
frosty tundra
I do, but I want it to be reversed. The blue 'Nerf This' switched around with the pink.
neon hinge
Some
gleaming gorge
I tried to get the ones that drop from the heaven level, but never got the rng for the chest to spawn ๐ฆ
cosmic zephyr
Oh wow that's cool
steady fossil
2bad
neon hinge
Is back now tho
neon hinge
Why am I so good at this? Damn me.
inland rain
Hey does anyone play Destiny on the Xbox? I just picked the legendary edition (with all dlc) up today mainly just wanting to play the firsst one before getting into the secondd one on pc in October. Anyway I have been installing it fore like 4 hours, it is taking forever. DDoes anyone know how many of the "compatibility packs" there are? I have already installed like 4 of them and its still going...
frosty tundra
Picked this up today: https://steelseries.com/gaming-headsets/arctis-7 My old D3 version broke. ๐ฆ This one seems pretty nice so far though!
frosty tundra
It's almost entirely metal so not fragile.