if u dont get it, u dont get it i guess
#retail-wow
fathom heart
latent swift
avatar is basically a carbon copy of pocahontas
latent swift
of course. its literally the same story just with aliens
like fr watch pocahontas and avatar back to back
its uncanny
latent swift
oh for sure they did
fathom heart
its gonna get worse tho watch bc blizz now isnt very creative despite the problems with the original people they did do alot better then modern wow but i still enjoy retail dont get me wrong
latent swift
nah for sure
blizz copies all the time
half the "new" mechanics are just OSRS or GW2 stuff repackaged
lunar peak
the sooner you realize that most ideas are plays off of other ideas the sooner you realize individual ideas are very rare especially when we've been around as long as we've been around.
latent swift
yeah kinda like that
dusk thorn
original ideas stopped like 400 years ago
everything is a version of something that already exists
latent swift
i think we should call out large companies ripping off of small creators, but when two large conglomerates copy each other? idk i hardly care tbh
dusk thorn
The Lion King is just animated animal Hamlet for petes sake
there is nothing new anymore, just variations on a theme
and complaining about that is dumb
latent swift
its kinda weird how little new ideas of stories are out there
dusk thorn
its because generally, they all go back to the same basic concepts that have already been written
lunar peak
it's not weird it's just.....how things go
latent swift
i wouldn't say its dumb - everyone comes to that realization and wants to talk about it at some point in their life
dusk thorn
theres a reason we still teach the story of gilgamesh
the heroes journey has been told over and over and over and over and over....
the difference comes in how you tell the story, the twists along the way, the variations in art and methodology
latent swift
thats kinda why im always saying i dont care about spoilers. spoilers are meaningless, whats interesting is why and how it happens
dusk thorn
Dune is the story of a prodigal son overthrowing a tyrant after joining the natives - its literally a classic story
but its also a sci-fi standard
Lord of the Rings is based on a german opera from the 1700s
but its a fantasy standard
everything has been told before - and thats ok
latent swift
or GoT just being war of the roses but DRAGONS
latent swift
yeah 
lunar peak
he could write a little faster tho
dusk thorn
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
latent swift
thats why is surprised me so much how people were taken back by daenys "fall from grace". i was like bro this was obvious from page 1
latent swift
he could write a little faster tho
honestly dont think we will get the last two books from him
he will have the story beats written out and after he passes ghostwriters will pick it up to finish it with those
dusk thorn
we should try not to stray any further offtopic
latent swift
fair enough sry
dusk thorn
i think the original point, that harandar is copying avatar is stupid tho
i enjoy avatar
i literally cant remember a single character besides jake sully
fathom heart
exactly why u are baised
dusk thorn
you didnt respond to ANYTHING else?
fathom heart
i was questing
dusk thorn
nope thats you
dusk thorn
then read through the stuff from earlier
lunar peak
i mean they DO invoke alot of avatar vibes but again it's an idea with a blizzard twist
lunar peak
not a bad thing tbh
dusk thorn
i mean they DO invoke alot of avatar vibes but again it's an idea with a blizzar...
they are inspired by the same thing
nature as a powerful force that cant be controlled, only followed
fathom heart
ur toxic afk so not gonna listen to you or anything you said
dusk thorn
if you actually want to complain about blizzard stealing stuff - the music in harandar is EXTREMELY similar to the music from Moana
fathom heart
i am actually questing in harandar rn XD not a troll btw
just dont respond well to toxicity bc i was busy elsewhere
@latent swifti never thought about how much avatar and pocahontus are alike till u brought it up
tbh druids were always close to nature and others in wow so nature based race isnt that far fetched
have a good one @latent swift i gtg to bed soon
lunar peak
@latent swift if you think avatar is like pocahontus, have you ever seen fern gully? lol
fathom heart
<@321025526145875968> if you think avatar is like pocahontus, have you ever seen...
about to sleep but is that another movie or animation?
latent swift
doesnt ring a bell no
fathom heart
i havent heard of it
lunar peak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FernGully:_The_Last_Rainforest watch it some time, you'd be surprised
latent swift
oh i heard about this
slate solstice
There was. it was called 3 says of competing 58265827262528386365352627727262626262627273737 quests without sleep
I think the designers spent all their time creating quests than anything else. Let alone fixing bugs.
The quests alone took them 5 years to setup per each npc
vernal vault
๐ฎ
noble fulcrum
||https://fxtwitter.com/Portergauge/status/2028749454942364056||
I mean, arathor doesnโt have much empathy for them because they choose to be stuck in the past
Itโs more him realising the similarities between them and his dad
To highlight why turalyon is a bit of a dick
vernal vault
vernal vault
i guess they changed it lol
polar ingot
Theres no way theyll make me get 90 first
I did the campaign on a paladin just cus he has more survivability even tho i dont like him at all
And now they make me get 90 with him
Id rather eat sand
somber tapir
Lmfao ๐คฃ
I got occasion to catch my prey like twice now
And first he owned me and second he ran away lol
polar ingot
what does the campaign even unlock
maybe i have the things unlocked by skipping the intro
and unlkocking it on the oither char
warm glade
hello guys, im planning to buy wow, if i buy the wow:midnight is it include the classic too?
night juniper
I mean, arathor doesnโt have much empathy for them because they choose to be stu...
I think Arator might be a ret paladin
round mauve
for some reason the character I faction changed is "forced" to do campaign again :S even though I did it when I was Horde
keen basalt
Hey all! , is there going to be a reusable aug rune in midnight S1?
prime monolith
How is that humanoid it looks like a worm
prime monolith
Hey all! , is there going to be a reusable aug rune in midnight S1?
I was wondering that
The non consumable rune in TWW wasn't till we got k"aresh in season 3
I think the old one only gives 6 primary stat now with the squish
tropic flint
noble fulcrum
I think Arator might be a ret paladin
He was, but he has a shield now
royal knoll
Did the other Endeavor factions come out with launch?
lean wasp
its just belf rn
royal knoll
and it seems like already placed decor doesnt count, rip my ass
lean wasp
wdym
royal knoll
my plot is full on the outside
i'm just gonna stuff 150 things in a room and then delete the room
royal knoll
I hate the cap on xp lol. There's no shot i make it to level 8 this cycle either
I'm only 6 and need 2200 xp to get to 7
royal knoll
how much xp is 7 to 8?
lean wasp
its awful
royal knoll
holy shit
lean wasp
10,300
im 8665/10300
๐ญ i gotta get so mooch
@royal knoll idk if u have the addon but if u get house addons like these u can go to old zone ๐ one by one and do quests and shit, i did and thats how i got to lvl 7 from 6 and it took like 3 days or 4
sorry wrong emoji used
or go on cheap af realms like rp and full pop and buy decor
royal knoll
almost there
Does Decor Vendor tell you whether or not you have the required quest or achievement complete?
lean wasp
yes
like
it tells me what achieve/questline it is and i wowhead it i mean
and wowhead has the whole start to finish usually
if u have tomtom it also waypoints the vendor
idk if u have ATT (all the things) but that also helps too
royal knoll
Yeah I have this one, similar functions I suppose but Decor Vendor looks nicer lol
The Vamoose one tracks professions too
royal knoll
and the dogshit lumber you harvest
lean wasp
i just like more simple look
lean wasp
real 
lean wasp
honestly idk since i havent gotten to that point, i only have like 4 toons who have proffs with decor
i assume it does?
maybe u gotta log onto em first idk
royal knoll
I'll check it out, you're the best โค๏ธ
lean wasp
np gl with ur house, ik it seems long but its rlly worth it : D
@royal knollo ye it also tells u faction so if one is blue u most likely gotta go on an alliance toon and vice versa if its red for horde
royal knoll
idk why but i bought 10 of the Zillow rugs and they are coming in handy! ๐
lean wasp
real its a nice looking rug, but i wish we could scale em to cover the ENTIRE foor
๐ญ 200% not big enough
royal knoll
just do multiple of thenm
lean wasp
b-b-but cliiippingg
lean wasp
xD
prime monolith
Oh cobwebs for Bob the pet spider
prime monolith
Purple? That's blue
lean wasp
alliance has the guts to kill afk players but when someones not afk they run off like wimps 
calm kindle
Horde too
lean wasp
alliance is alot more common
they 2v1 or even 5v1 one horde and as soon as u haev equal grp they all wimp out ๐
wimps
calm kindle
It's the same in both faction
calm kindle
But I love people with less HP (and ilvl) trying to kill everyone around him.
See many people like this on WM at the early access. No-one care of pvp at early access. Everyone here for XP bonus
night juniper
He was, but he has a shield now
spiritually still ret paladin
noble fulcrum
spiritually still ret paladin
Id argue not really
Heโs not a zealot like his dad
kind shuttle
Is this a normie problem I'm too on an RP server to understand?
lean wasp
Is this a normie problem I'm too on an RP server to understand?
what
kind shuttle
What?
lean wasp
also nice pfp
viscid birch
plz discount faction changes blizzard ๐
lean wasp
plz discount faction changes blizzard ๐
๐ญ im surprised they havent
viscid birch
istg they do it everytime and i have never wanted them before and this season i want one bc i wanna change my druid to a haranir and paladin to a lightforge
kind shuttle
Thanks babe. New character. Decided to return to form, play Rogue.
And this PFP is of my new Rogue.
lean wasp
๐ญ all ur chars r peak
lean wasp
istg they do it everytime and i have never wanted them before and this season i ...
im sure they will discount soon
if they dont leveling doesnt take long
๐ญ
kind shuttle
๐ญ all ur chars r peak
Here's an in-game versus art.
viscid birch
but im TIRED of leveling already lmaooo
lean wasp
Here's an in-game versus art.
๐
lean wasp
but im TIRED of leveling already lmaooo
fair
kind shuttle
lean wasp
kind shuttle
That art is done by Candle_ on VGen and they're amazing.
kind shuttle
kind shuttle
Not to toot my own horn, but, I just come up with the idea and design a character around them.
So I said "I kind of want a Witcher-looking character that thinks demon hunters are hypocrites."
And then I made this. And I love her.
lean wasp
So I said "I kind of want a Witcher-looking character that thinks demon hunters ...
i love it
kind shuttle
lean wasp
and the basic armor, it super good, its hard to make basic look as good as u do xD
kind shuttle
Chibi sticker, fun.
lean wasp
LMAO
i wanna learn how to draw haranir BAAAD i might
do it
flat faces r my weakness
kind shuttle
I'm sure you'll do great. I mean, you sure as all hell have improved in the last few years.
jolly mist
lol
lean wasp
I'm sure you'll do great. I mean, you sure as all hell have improved in the last...
u say that as i havent drawn for almost a month ty tho lol
i need to get back into it buut midniighttt
kind shuttle
Are you having fun with it?
lean wasp
yesss
i love being out in the open world again and not UNDERNEATHE FUCKING DWARF LAME AASS CITY
though hallowfall beloved ur ok cuz ur cat based
kind shuttle
I do not like that we got Harandar during the not underground expansion. And Voidstorm. Heading off-world this soon?
We just got K'aresh, come on.
noble fulcrum
I do not like that we got Harandar during the not underground expansion. And Voi...
To be fair, haranir were shuffled around because of tww development
But also I think next patch will be local
kind shuttle
To be fair, haranir were shuffled around because of tww development
Yeah.
kind shuttle
But also I think next patch will be local
My guess is the place off the coast of ZA.
To the east.
noble fulcrum
I look forward to them being able to do multiple raids in one tier
So that not all the main story has to be in a raid of a new locations theme
kind shuttle
Honestly, Midnight is shaping up to be a great expansion so far.
The questing is fun, characters are good, like, god.
I loved Zul'jarra.
noble fulcrum
Like next patch could have a raid in isle of fangs, and stratholme,
Maybe somewhere else
kind shuttle
She is tough, but allows herself to be tender and vulnerable with her Hash'ura. She loves to fight, but understands the consequences of violence.
What's that?
A nuanced character? In my WoW of WoWcraft videogame?
And her banter with Liadrin is just, so fun.
lean wasp
I do not like that we got Harandar during the not underground expansion. And Voi...
real but its ok
kind shuttle
Yeah, it's not offensive. Just weird in both cases.
lean wasp
She is tough, but allows herself to be tender and vulnerable with her Hash'ura. ...
do i have to read quests for fluff like this ๐ญ
kind shuttle
Yes. Or pay attention to the "stay awhile and listen" dialogues.
They're voice acted!
lean wasp
๐ญ maybe i should turn dialoug back on LMAOO
lean wasp
good to know thanks
kind shuttle
Harandar has an amazing soundtrack, no joke.
lean wasp
i just havto turn some stuff off when im in VC for friends ๐ but ive kept dialoug off since DF ๐ญ
kind shuttle
It's been a while since we had vocals in ambiental music.
lean wasp
oh ive had music on entire time in harandar its amazing
its like avatar
real i love it
๐ญ so many ppl say they hate the zone tho
kind shuttle
I'm not sure who the composer for Midnight is. I think Neal Acree?
Amazing job, regardless.
tropic flint
I'm not sure who the composer for Midnight is. I think Neal Acree?
Yes.
lean wasp
really good
kind shuttle
Thank you for the confirmation, Constellarman.
lean wasp
the star god knows all
tropic flint
kind shuttle
"Algalon knows what you did."
kind shuttle
im having wow withdrawls already
It's good to take breaks, or to just ask yourself "am I having fun right now?"
If your answer to that question is no, definitely take a break.
tropic flint
im having wow withdrawls already
You have been playing quite a lot.
lean wasp
You have been playing quite a lot.
trying to get my harababe to 90 so i can do endgame ๐ญ
lean wasp
If your answer to that question is no, definitely take a break.
oh yea i do take breaks
usually my break is a 3-5 hour nap
๐
kind shuttle
Pfft. "Harambe."
kind shuttle
But honestly? The Haranir were kind of awful, they're characterized as edgelords who hate everyone.
And I think they should commit Hara-kiri.
kind shuttle
Unfortunately, they're pretty.
prime monolith
theres pnly 2 qualities of crafting reagents now?
lean wasp
its ok ima headcanon mine as a soft druid who left the roots for a better life
prime monolith
silver diamond and gold star
kind shuttle
its ok ima headcanon mine as a soft druid who left the roots for a better life <...
Baby steps to writing OC lore!
tropic flint
It appears that I have finished the Haranir storyline campaign, but it still hasnโt unlocked for me. I suppose I still need to finish the embassy questline.
lean wasp
wait maybe i should do some OC lore
tiri has a bit of it too
๐ญ sounds like something fun to learn while i also learn to draw em
kind shuttle
Foxy has become a roleplayer.
lean wasp
NOO
kind shuttle
It's not so bad on the dark side.
kind shuttle
I meeeeaaaan, at least you aren't jumpscared by an UI that gives you sensory overload now. With the addon changes.
Corporate wants you to tell WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS IMAGE?
lean wasp
I meeeeaaaan, at least you aren't jumpscared by an UI that gives you sensory ove...
im so happy to get rid of my UI addons but all i did was replace that space with housing ones
๐
kind shuttle
I have a very simple minimalist UI now.
kind shuttle
Inb4 McGee drops in with his cool UI inspired by something weird and it takes half the screen.
"This is my Warcraft 3 UI!"
lean wasp
LMAO
kind shuttle
Huh?
polar ingot
guys, so i got the campaign done + got lvl 90 but theres still no campaign skip on my alt?
only the intro
polar ingot
fck
but do i need to complete it on other chars?
i prolly have all the stuff unlocked
lean wasp
im not sure i think as long as u did it on one toon it will unlok everything but i havent hit 90 on my alt yet
prime monolith
How does one make Q5 proffession tools if there's only Q2 crafting reagents?
Have recipe difficulties been adjusted?
Or are q2 reagents equivalent of the old q3 reagents
lean wasp
they just updated the launcher not long ago ๐ญ
wowhead doesnt need to post everytime since its on launcher
royal knoll
oooo we got a realm list 
Do we know when we're supposed to be able to get Loremaster complete? the WoWhead for the Voidstorm Sojourner has mixed information
solid hull
Blizzard stated that they wanted to reduce the amount of casters in M+...we have determined that was a LIE... xD
prime monolith
whats a renowned beast?
royal knoll
a beast thats renowned you silly goose
lean wasp
Blizzard stated that they wanted to *reduce* the amount of casters in M+...we ha...
they cant tune for shiiiit
crude agate
hey guys, is this sidequest part of the midnight exp?
jolly mist
U big silly Goose
prime monolith
18k for a crafting reagent thats insane i need to get my skinner out there luring these things
lean wasp
plushie vendor ??? where is this ๐ญ
cloud spire
hey guys, is this sidequest part of the midnight exp?
No. The Cup races are limited time events that are races across different expansion zones. They were introduced during Dragonflight
crude agate
thank you
potent cape
Blizzard stated that they wanted to *reduce* the amount of casters in M+...we ha...
its all casters
i cant imagine healers in pugs]
all casters and like 3 bosses on windrunner spire alone that is kick or die
lean wasp
i cant imagine healers in pugs]
healing 101: if they are too far away just let em die
potent cape
i know the couple of runs ive done so far as tank
when my kick is on cd im just staring at a mob thats not kicked doing aoe damage
iron coral
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-charity-pet-pack-supporting-habitat-for-humanity-roofus-pet-and-decor-380186 - Does anyone know when this is going to be released?
lean wasp
since they took away healers kicks uh yea we gon be cooked if dps dont kick
healers can no longer kick ๐ญ it sucks so bad cuz when im healing i try to kick but i cant and no one else fockin does it
viscid birch
servers are down for an extra hour than anticipated because they're turning the sale on for race swaps
right guys
royal knoll
Not an update! ๐
acoustic zinc
Don't forget to have a ton of fun (: happy midnight expansion
cloud spire
Not an update! ๐
It's Tuesday. Every Tuesday the game goes down for scheduled maintenance, which is announced early and often. It's also the first Tuesday reset after an expansion launch, which may lead to a longer downtime than normal for patching
jolly mist
its back up FYI
lean wasp
IVE MSSED U SM ๐ญ
vague cloud
still down for me....
jolly mist
im in game StormRage
dusk thorn
???
simple sparrow
anyone else manage to rank up to exalted for all the cartels? i just finished it
lean wasp
anyone else finding NORMAL dungeon take suuuper long and feel like ur not doing dps?
royal fjord
Abundance works now
royal knoll
anyone else finding NORMAL dungeon take suuuper long and feel like ur not doing ...
scaling at 90 is so poop compared to other levels
if you do a dungeoni with a group of 80s you fly
lean wasp
iim lvl 85 tho
๐ญ
my team is 80s no ones 90
and we are only doing
like
7k dps
lean wasp
it was fine this morning ๐ญ
royal knoll
idk if they changed anything
cloud spire
i was doing 20k+ on a warlock up until level 90
Stuff is tuned for max level, not for leveling. You should never rely on dps meters or metrics like that while you're leveling, because it means nothing
coral tendon
round mauve
is there a reason why I have to do campaign again with main that I moved to Alliance after completing it as Horde? :S
thankfully its just Zul and Silvermoon I need to redo
round mauve
maybe text wise then
wooden fulcrum
ok but taking 7 minutes for a boss in normal
Imagine what mythic will be like ๐คฃ
jaunty zephyr
Is there any way to do the harandar renown quest Legendary Prosperity if i did the weekly discovery quest first?
onyx palm
anyone know how to get looming shadows quest to show i got 2 character so far that cant see it but its on the map
lean wasp
its probs tied to a quest but idk which one
vernal vault
When I get pet
shy horizon
tardy silo
cloud spire
wooden fulcrum
Palis are so easy to play what..
potent cape
how do you guys feel about midnight so far
u guys think its good enough for a resub or no
main scaffold
I liked it. Although Haranir werr just furry versions of reskinned elves. 2/10
Lore solid so far. Cosmetics and zones are stunningly well done
noble fulcrum
I liked it. Although Haranir werr just furry versions of reskinned elves. 2/10
tbf I do think they did a pretty smart move in making the haranir feral and more troll like but then giving the option to make them prettier
ensures that they aren't just another "ugly" race tossed to the side, but then people who actually like that aesthetic can still use it
and people who like elf aesthetics can do that
that being said it does annoy me they use nelf skeleton specifically because of their animations
somber tapir
They should add more beard options like they always got not long enough
potent cape
i cant believe they released 3 dwarf races
somber tapir
Yea and they still not tall enough
prime monolith
Are we supposed to have patron crafting orders yet?
Is there a quest i need to take first?
dusk thorn
Are we supposed to have patron crafting orders yet?
they exist - try refreshing
unless youre in EU - then reset is tomorrow i think?
lunar peak
i had two before reset in NA, i think you have to do the chain quest near the center of the profession area to open them
candid dagger
Anybody else having issues with Details (addon)? Mine is not showing detailed dps when hovering, doesnโt show party level anymore, when I scroll down not always it works, it doesnโt save theme changesโฆ it is just awful
unkempt horizon
mining / herbalism : how do I know if I already overloaded one type of node (for the first time skill point) ?
prime monolith
they exist - try refreshing
oh it looks like i have 2 none for KP yet tho
and i just reaised theres KP treasures too this time
most of them in voidstorm tho
sleek plover
fyi u cant get 2 sparks of radiance only 1. wowhead needs to post correct content
dusk thorn
fyi u cant get 2 sparks of radiance only 1. wowhead needs to post correct conten...
uh no
you can
i have 2
you do the midnight quest to do all the endgame activites
and you get the weekly one
sleek plover
well i got shafted then
dusk thorn
does the midnight campaign unlock anything
pretty sure you have to do the campaign at least once or endgame story isnt available
and that will lock out other stuff
sleek plover
you do the midnight quest to do all the endgame activites
turned in this quest for the all endgame things and didnt get one
still have the weekly one to do though
dusk thorn
turned in this quest for the all endgame things and didnt get one
are you sure?
lunar peak
dusk thorn
like - pretty sure its impossible not to get one
sleek plover
yea i completed all the weekly events turned in the quest i didnt get one
i just have the weekly and thats it
dusk thorn
i just have the weekly and thats it
where are you checking?
sleek plover
lunar peak
it's an item in your bags
dusk thorn
theres a currency that tracks your weekly amount of sparks, but thats not updated to account for this one because one of the sparks is a bonus
sleek plover
oh im dumb then yea i got it lol my bad. been awhile since i played
royal knoll
0% chance this was an accident, right?
Also, idk if you guys talks about this but Loremaster quest is fixed
final fractal
I was afk for 5 min inside a delve... https://files.catbox.moe/suhjkb.png ๐ฉ
prime monolith
When you have completed the main chapters of all the campaigns can your alts go to all of the areas too?
light sierra
I cannot start The War Within or Midnight via the Suggested content panel and I don't find any quests. This is a boosted character to Lvl70 btw. Currently at Lvl72
Anyone know what to do or am I bugged?
magic wave
You need to be level 80 to start Midnight
dusk thorn
Also, idk if you guys talks about this but Loremaster quest is fixed
how?
theres a missing amani quest too
wanton burrow
hey uh wheres everyone fighting for sparks in harandar 
royal knoll
theres a missing amani quest too
idk, I did them all. Finished the Void one today
versed steppe
question, are M0 weekly or daily?
royal knoll
weekly
dusk thorn
idk, I did them all. Finished the Void one today
the void one is buggy af
the respawn rate on argus is 0
and everyone is there
they need to hotfix it
royal knoll
I got there like the minute it opened, i just started heroic throwing everything
royal knoll
the reward for loremaster is one of the ugliest outfits in the game so
lunar peak
theres a missing amani quest too
Which Amani quest are you missing? Cause I completed that zone in EA
dusk thorn
i figured it out
beyond the walls requires doing 5 unrelated quests all on the same character
not really a questline
potent cape
we should get a zul aman race
onyx palm
is someone has the looming shadow quest can they share it?
if anyone has it and willing to attempt that inv naanhachi
potent cape
can you do dreamrift rn
dusk thorn
can you do dreamrift rn
no? none of the raids are open
go check the raid schedule or the ingame calendar
potent cape
i wonder how world first going to be with 1 boss
lunar peak
Thatโs not the first raid opening tho?
dusk thorn
no one will care
it wont be a race boss
theoretically it might be the first raid mythic racers do to get some mythic gear before pushing the other raid
but world first 1 boss raid has never been the thing people are excited about
the odd thing for the mythic first race is that addon exploitation will likely be a big deal, and blizzard will hopefully hand out bans for any guild thats trying to get around stuff
also the fact that we have a 6 boss and a 2 boss raid for the story raids
graceful ether
there any profession quests yet? not seeing any at my trainers
ocean compass
do i get the renown gear rewards (renown 9 silvermoon) on every character? as in if i do the rep grind while levelling a different toon can i grab the gear pieces on my main
dusk thorn
there any profession quests yet? not seeing any at my trainers
make sure to do the one from the middle area
the intro to profession stuff
it appears to be a prereq
minor lynx
can anyone tell me why my warlock is getting out dps by lvl 81 and 82 im lvl 90 with 190 gear im conently getting out done in dungens according to wows built in dps meter
dusk thorn
can anyone tell me why my warlock is getting out dps by lvl 81 and 82 im lvl 90 ...
because of weird scaling
ignore it
it has to do with how high your ilvl is vs the balanced ilvl at each level
at 81, you are probably above the standard ilvl for 81
at 90, you are at or below that ilvl
minor lynx
no im 90
dusk thorn
read what i wrote
minor lynx
ah ok tks
dusk thorn
as you get better gear, youll get stronger
lunar peak
yes but at 90 you should have a higher itmlvl.
lunar peak
yes and 190 would be considered low for the balance
dusk thorn
at 81, you have endgame gear from TWW
dusk thorn
yes and 190 would be considered low for the balance
oh yeah for sure
210-220 is standard for 90
based on WQ rewards and delve ilvl suggestion
minor lynx
gottcha thaks
graceful ether
make sure to do the one from the middle area
yeah someone on the forums directed me to the crafting orders table and that was the issue
spice wren
no im 90
That's exactly the reason you are being outperformed by people under lvl 90.
Because the scaling is effed up.
lunar peak
@lean wasp only 100 marls from apex chest T.T i'm doomed to farm forever for housing items
lunar peak
its the weekly chest from the weekly "pick your thing" stuff
lunar peak
remember the "call of the world soul" weekly?
lean wasp
yes?
lunar peak
where you picked between 3 endgame objectives
spice wren
<@216765193047375872> only 100 marls from apex chest T.T i'm doomed to farm fore...
Only 100? Meh, then it can wait. Too busy leveling haranir as my 3rd to 90.
lunar peak
it's the chest from that
100 is laughable considering how many you need to buy anything from rep vendors
spice wren
Indeed...
lean wasp
100 is laughable considering how many you need to buy anything from rep vendors
im planning to do 4 toons this xpac bcuz of the currency for decor
its so redic
jhust for 10 XP items
lunar peak
which means it's the endgame chest reward we will be getting all during midnight
lean wasp
๐ญ
i fucking hate this company
god forbid housing grind be fun and not take 6000 years
lunar peak
surely they will consider reducing the cost of these housing items lol
spice wren
god forbid housing grind be fun and not take 6000 years
This^
Definitely fun detected moment :I
lean wasp
surely they will consider reducing the cost of these housing items lol
lehr -puts hand on your shoulder- its blizzard
lunar peak
T.T
lean wasp
lunar peak
i just crossed 10k marls and i don't want to spend any of them
lean wasp
im saving up HUGE
i aint touching anything yet
i have to reach lvl 8 house this month or i will die
plz god
spice wren
easily, endeavor can be grinder for 2500 housing xp again, right?
lunar peak
oof
lean wasp
easily, endeavor can be grinder for 2500 housing xp again, right?
only once
lunar peak
yeah it's a new endeavor now
spice wren
New endeavor just started though...
lunar peak
an endeavor
spice wren
idk what you mean, because im gaining housing xp again from endeavor and got capped last month with it.
lean wasp
I kno
its once a month
is what im saying
u can only do it once a month and i wish we could do it more
2.5k isnt enough
spice wren
Exactly. And you're missing like what, 1.3K xp from lvl 8?
lunar peak
yes which is less than the amount you need to level up lol
lunar peak
youll be fine LOL
lean wasp
IM A IIDOIT
lunar peak
getting to nine is another story
lunar peak
forever
spice wren
Please no. Healer's shouldnt be responsible for every thing.
Teach DPS to use their abilities and focus on mechanics before even considering this :I
lean wasp
i do like that the crest overflow turns into marls
WAIT
U CAN DO THIS?
MANNN MY ILVL IN A M10 IS GONNA BE 170 CUZ I NEVER UPGRADE MY GEAR ๐
lean wasp
but please give healers kick back
real
already went multiple grps in NORMAL dungeon with EVERYONE ignoring kicks
and we wipe
IN A NORMAL
cuz i cant kick
spice wren
u still have to heal
and if you as a healer kick, you still have to heal on the same time.
Not every single mechanic, interrupt, dispell, cleanse etc. should fall upon the healer role.
potent cape
and if you as a healer kick, you still have to heal on the same time.
Not every...
yeah
lean wasp
lean wasp
and if you as a healer kick, you still have to heal on the same time.
Not every...
everyone should have a kick
healer or not imo
its very important
lunar peak
no, the dps or the tank will have to kick
potent cape
these dungeons arent one shotting dps if they dont get kicked its aoe damage on the entire party healer has to heal
lean wasp
no, the dps or the tank will have to kick
which they dont do already
its gonna be hell getting my io up this season
lunar peak
they will have to or wipe
lean wasp
i can already see it now
all demon hunters complaining and asking why i as a healer aint kicking
it will always be a demon hunter..
potent cape
they will have to or wipe
which one u think they choose
in 1 dungeon i ran as tank there was 12 deaths
lunar peak
its literally the first week
potent cape
6 of them being healer
taking away kick is good in theory in practice ur going to overstimulate healers into healing 4 people not kicking and dying from not paying attention to their own healbars
lean wasp
they took away most healer spells anyway
adding a kick back wouldnt do shit
i just miss my ick ๐ญ
KICK
potent cape
these dungeons are so kick focused also
lean wasp
real
we were on mobs for 2 mins earlier and NO ONE would kick
IN NORMAL
if ppl dont learn in normal oh god
mythic be hell
potent cape
pushing keys as a healer is going to be cooked
or its freelo like tank
where theres so little healers that u just get elo boosted in keys u dont have the ilvl for
lunar peak
it's crazy that yall thinking a healer (one kick) being removed means all of a sudden noone else did kicks before or will do them in the future. most dps/tanks were already kicking spells
potent cape
noone kicks
lunar peak
what level keys you doing 4/5s? LOL
potent cape
by the time u do +20s u just went through hell to get there
spice wren
So you're pushing keys with randoms and wonder why its pain? Makes sense I guess.
potent cape
ye pugs
but i was maining healer until i got my abilities pruned and kick taken
now im tank
lean wasp
what level keys you doing 4/5s? LOL
๐ญ 10s
lean wasp
im not saying everyone doesnt kick but alot of ppl COUGH demon hunter COUGH ignore every mech including kick
potent cape
idt healers rn have the carry potential they had
lean wasp
potent cape
i play whatever role lets me carry pugs
potent cape
not a fan of guild runs
potent cape
if ur pushing keys and ur guild is bad will you have the heart to tell them they suck
potent cape
pugs its a 1 and done ill never seen them again
lean wasp
if u think ur guild is bad ur just mean
lunar peak
or, just find a guild that's up to your standard of play
lean wasp
๐ญ
spice wren
2 issues there already.
-
Why are you in a guild with bad people?
-
Why wouldn't you tell someone, who should be a mate of yours in-game, that he isin't doing what he should be doing....
potent cape
well what is bad
but if u have a guild member and they are bad and they literally can see you pushing keys
ur going to have to tell them they are bad and cant do those keys
lean wasp
i was agreeing with u giving kicks to healers back but i disagree with everything else u saying now
potent cape
bro its just facts
lean wasp
ur going to have to tell them they are bad and cant do those keys
dont tell them they suck
just help em learn
๐
potent cape
how are you going to learn
potent cape
if my keys are too high
spice wren
And we found the reasoning for all of this, lol
lean wasp
teaching pugs to learn tho is a skill in itself
lunar peak
uhh...idk do lower keys
lean wasp
guild easier
main scaffold
๐ฟ
potent cape
idk guild is for guild members
lunar peak
people don't just wake up to do 20s
potent cape
im a one and done type of guy
i dont need to tell anyone they suck cause i just pump pugs
lunar peak
weird behavior
lean wasp
๐ญ ok nvm i took the bait again
potent cape
bro
lean wasp
lehr plz kick me
potent cape
hear me out
why push keys in a guild
when u can push in pugs
so i need to teach my guild members to beable to push keys with me?
main scaffold
Its 5am. I had to piss but this is worth it
lunar peak
according to you pugs don't kick?
potent cape
ill just randomly select people who are already doing those keys
lean wasp
Its 5am. I had to piss but this is worth it
go pee and go back to bed xD
potent cape
according to you pugs don't kick?
and you think those people arent in guilds
u get the same quality
main scaffold
From my own experience? I rarely do high keys with pugs. Why? Cuz they suck most of the time
lean wasp
why push keys in a guild
bcuz u can communicate with the same people instead of having to tell EVERYONE each time u join a pug grp something
potent cape
its not like because ur in a guild ur better than the randoms i select in pugs
lunar peak
according to you, those people that you pug with are already doing high keys so they do them?
lean wasp
doesnt make u group lead
here we go
ego eater
i cba
"oh i play tank so im right"
gl
main scaffold
I mean. Hes right though
main scaffold
Dps are replaced easy
lunar peak
i'd just leave your group tbh
potent cape
i never wipe
main scaffold
i'd just leave your group tbh
lean wasp
u leave streaks in ur underwear?
lunar peak
no need to be toxic.
potent cape
my logs do not lie
spice wren
So you have an enormous attitde problem and a narstistic behavior tendencies. No wonder you " pump " pugs
lean wasp
lunar peak
like if a pug group is failing, vote to leave and leave
lean wasp
So you have an enormous attitde problem and a narstistic behavior tendencies. No...
atp i think hes only doing a +2 key
potent cape
So you have an enormous attitde problem and a narstistic behavior tendencies. No...
no
if i had a attitude problem i wouldnt care to let my guild members know they are bad
i think its better for the both of us to run different keys
lunar peak
yet here you are telling us
potent cape
so i literally dont have to inform someone they are bad
lean wasp
:so
spice wren
Yet here you are showing prime examples of such
main scaffold
Clams, you sound like a huge ego-stroking annoyance
spice wren
i bet he plays a demon hunter
110%
potent cape
how is that ego
lean wasp
๐ญ
potent cape
bro i was in a guild
lean wasp
ur guild must have hated u
spice wren
emphasis on " WAS " Propably gkicked for the attitude.
potent cape
we did m+ daily and i stagnated my progression for not telling someone that i didnt want to run keys with them
bro we did not time a single key
lunar peak
let me know when you can hold a cat
potent cape
only way u would get gkicked if u told ur guild members they are bad i dont have the heart to do it
lean wasp
let me know when you can hold a cat
REAAL
potent cape
so i avoid the situation like a mature blood dk and run pugs
lean wasp
we did m+ daily and i stagnated my progression for not telling someone that i di...
let me guess, u cussed them out and called them slurs and wonder why ur guild kicked u?
potent cape
my guild never kicked me
lean wasp
lean wasp
ok well i cba to argue with probably a demon hunter tank huge af ego, please do more in ur life than m+
potent cape
im blood dk first of all
spice wren
ok well i cba to argue with probably a demon hunter tank huge af ego, please do...
This^
potent cape
also i mained resto druid
main scaffold
Never met a blood dk with a huge ego tbh
lean wasp
my old guild had a guild leader dk, anything people said he ignored and we wiped for weeks on heroic dathea wind boss in DF and the guild fell apart and we made our own guild and killed it in one try
bad af tank
potent cape
im the best blood dk
lunar peak
sure thing grandpa lets get you to bed
lean wasp
anyone kno if this pops up at 90?
lean wasp
sure thing grandpa lets get you to bed
LMFAO
spice wren
im the best blood dk
But you don't have narsistic tendencies or attitude problems? Suure buddy.
Time to go bother mommy for the attention.
potent cape
me as a blood dk i have vertigial shell and anti magiczone my teamates
main scaffold
sure thing grandpa lets get you to bed
Bro thats evil, i did not need to wheeze at 5am ๐
potent cape
also i give them feast
main scaffold
Clams
lean wasp
Bro thats evil, i did not need to wheeze at 5am ๐
hahahah
lean wasp
FEAST
potent cape
what other dk u see giving out feast
lean wasp
im crying
main scaffold
Most
spice wren
what other dk u see giving out feast
wooow, 5g spent. need a medal?
main scaffold
Pretty surr Clams is just baiting rn
lean wasp
he is but its funny
spice wren
He has to be.
main scaffold
Not even Niko has ascended to tjis level of idiot
lean wasp
this guy wants his cloak fixed but, its perfect
main scaffold
Probably had white stains
main scaffold
Surprised you havent done it
potent cape
why?
lean wasp
u showed why if u scroll up
potent cape
im blood dk
lean wasp
i dont discreminate,
spice wren
Weird way to say you bought key boosts
lean wasp
LMFAO
main scaffold
You look disgusting
potent cape
Weird way to say you bought key boosts
why would i buy key boost
lean wasp
You look disgusting
roast me too, roast me too
potent cape
this seems like a targeted attack againts blood dks
no wonder we are in a tank crisis
spice wren
roast me too, roast me too
Sorry honey, I don't roast people with more than 3 active braincell's
main scaffold
roast me too, roast me too
One-tricky furry. I guess.
lean wasp
dat was waek U_U
main scaffold
Its 5am and i honestly donMt care ๐
potent cape
i need a second main
spice wren
You don't need to make excuses to introduce your DH
spice wren
So you have a ton of toons leveld with boosts, no required IQ to actually know how to play them properly and now seek validation in a discord group for being the " best dk ".
Man get your medication check'd out.
potent cape
potent cape
So you have a ton of toons leveld with boosts, no required IQ to actually know h...
no
spice wren
potent cape
So you have a ton of toons leveld with boosts, no required IQ to actually know h...
im literally the best dk as of rn
we can run a dungeon rn bro
all im gonna say
lunar peak
crazy. i wonder what it's like to have 5 80s
potent cape
we can literally run a mythic 0 right now
spice wren
we can run a dungeon rn bro
Too busy running Mythic's while you're still walking in eversong
potent cape
crazy. i wonder what it's like to have 5 80s
7
lunar peak
huh, i wonder if there's some sort of limit to characters
potent cape
no
lunar peak
oh there's not?
potent cape
potent cape
lunar peak
naw
potent cape
i have half the amount for world first grinders
im deadass only playing dk
cause dk best
spice wren
potent cape
i might do hunter
past otter
onyx palm
my pet is a try hard
tropic flint
Then leave.
lean wasp
@lunar peak first try
grim sky
anyone offhand know what type of dps numbers people should be pulling at 90? * ballpark range of course
potent cape
probably depends on class
grim sky
just seeing numbers all over the place, just trying to get a range I should be shooting for
lean wasp
lean wasp
wats that one from
fringe ether
Anyone have any luck beating Ziekket on mythic?
lunar peak
wats that one from
the voidstorm event
main scaffold
wats that one from
Stormarion Defense
lean wasp
ooo
potent cape
just seeing numbers all over the place, just trying to get a range I should be s...
i would get a damage meter and do a dungeon and compare damage numbers
should be under gameplay enhancements
also keep in mind ur damage numbers right now are just in leveling stages until the actual season starts
karmic pilot
I've looked and can't seek to find an answer as to what to do with my leftover cartel chips. Any idea since I can't destroy them?
knotty peak
There an Addon to change Voice lines used for an NPC type?
night juniper
I hope Turalyon gets married soon, so that bro can finally have a last name ๐ญ
main scaffold
Is this event bugged? I've done it 3-4 times with shards, not ONE Unalloyed.
lunar peak
oh eu? has your weekly reset happen yet?
plucky cloak
ngl i want my shoulderpads to be asymetric like this
lunar peak
Abundances are just broken.
rude, NAs were fixed after the weekly reset it seems
kind shuttle
...?
Rude?
lunar peak
rude that it isn't fixed?
kind shuttle
lunar peak
it's not a personal attack??? calm down my guy
lunar peak
and again "rude that it isn't fixed?"
kind shuttle
You said rude, and I was like "what? What's rude?"
lunar peak
brother
kind shuttle
And you said to calm down.
lunar peak
okay
kind shuttle
And my brain imploded.
lunar peak
have a great day
kind shuttle
You too.
somber tapir
๐คฏ
somber tapir
so i avoid the situation like a mature blood dk and run pugs
Itโs understandable not every raid guild runs high m+ defo not on 20 some good m+ ppl just pug because usually they donโt raid or find communities for m+ basically if you pug and you find someone good u talk to them if they wanna team up. Itโs best way.
somber tapir
I hope Turalyon gets married soon, so that bro can finally have a last name ๐ญ
What u mean lol he is married with Alleria no? ๐
kind shuttle
What u mean lol he is married with Alleria no? ๐
Nah, they broke up before Midnight.
So they're both single now. Shoot your shot.
somber tapir
My shot? What ๐
kind shuttle
Oh, no shipping of OCs with lore characters here? Goodie.
somber tapir
Iโm confused now
kind shuttle
You're welcome.
somber tapir
I think they will get back together lol
kind shuttle
Very likely. Unless they villain bat one of them.
tropic flint
So they're both single now. Shoot your shot.
If Vantus were ever to cheat on me, they would probably go with Decimus rather than Alleria or Turalyon. 
kind shuttle
Based?
somber tapir
Decimus is nice
kind shuttle
Best part of Voidstorm outside the Arator plot.
kind shuttle
I mean, Midnight is definitely a step up in writing.
tropic flint
Most definitely.