#Marvel Rivals
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idk I saw something in a yt post by them about gm3
are tournament and championship different
bc tournament is Plat 3 and open for a while
It might be closed
nvm idk what I read
I got back to support for the event quest, I am so rusty 😭
I actually can’t play support atp
i actually can't play anything except support
this is so unfun to play against omg
Bs bs and bs on you the whole time 😭
And I play support, specifically one without self heal rn 😭
ok im actually super proud of this match
Huge carry
I'm pretty sure both of my deaths were getting trapped by the hulk
invis works pretty well against him tho
played strange first half then swapped to loki when we lost 0-3 , even tho i lost i feel like i'v maybe unrusted on support 😎
really need that triple heal crutch to do my work, idk if i can handle 2 support
what the actual hell were your other healers doing the first round, unless it was truly that much shorter
even if it was a third of the length they still weren't playing great
It was only a little shorter, however we went overtime, I think it’s correct to estimate 1/3 of the round
ah alright
is that just a team diff, I don't see a huge issue overall
maybe dps
or heals diff is possible actually that luna is insane
yea team diff, wolverine was lowkey not doing very hot imo
like thor went backline, and bro just went foward for groot
he should be going for thor even if groot was a better matchup, wtf was he doing
but stat wise he popped off, maybe i just didnt see all that
lots of time you just dont know what went wrong, you dont got the pov of everyone
yeah
actually no, ik what went wrong
it's possible he just threw himself against tanks and got outhealed and didn't secure many kills
enemy team rolled us, then we rolled them after we swapped roles, so we went into overtime
during our team attacking, thor went backline alone, so rocket went to attack him, and nobody went with rocket, then bro died and we lost cause there was only a minute on the clock
wolverine should've went with rocket to attack that thor and turn that into a 6v5, thats what went wrong
so cart didnt move a inch so enemy won
ahh
lemme join ur qp match 😎
im opening the game rn lol
wtf bro
what do i do
idk you can cancel and restart steam or go through anyways
I don't think it's saved to steam, I think it's saved to rivals servers
@hidden spindle free dolphin jeff
you dont get the mvp but you do get the costume itself
just gotta play 3 games a day for a week
Augh gotta play, I'll do tmrw
idk if it stacks up
like if you can do 2 days worth in 1 if you missed it
Hmn
Based on how they did so far possibly
its 21 games played anyways which for a 1400 unit costume is pretty awesome
Hell yea

@hidden spindle they gutted your child and he was already one ofthe weakest supports
idk what theyre on
Bro
Why did everyone have to say he was broken
Fuck strategists being lore accurate Ultron are also now
we can hope the venom and storm teamups are good but I think you gotta hold out hope for the season 3 rebalances buffing him through the roof

a good jeff is gonna be cc hell tho
venom combo looks straight up bad, storm one looks quite nasty in the right hands
Also they buffed his healing again already lmao
The patch notes now say to 130 not 100
I still hate it but it's better
I keep seeing people say they buffed his healing and I'm just like ????? his bubbles heal more yes but it's over time, as an early season 1 rocket player nobody wants that and burst is way way way better. also he has half ammo lmao
and it doesn't catapult enemies to get your duelist home safe
he's been gutted and people are saying it's a huge buff
Sobbing
back up
When you hitting celes 
Idk if I want a rank reset for the half season
It feel too early but I don’t wanna have last seasons rank situation repeat
we climb this weekend more
I'll try not to throw 
I've been cooking recently
Lmao I need to not throw on hulk
I did not cook today
Messed up my ult a lot lately for some reason
It looked like you were using it as a reaction but most of the times you really needed it as a reaction it was because the rest of the team was dead
might want to try using it more aggressively when we get a small advantage to turn it into a major push
Mm true
at least for me, I was dead at least half the times you ulted lol
sometimes it works because you hold ground but only really on domination
Oh yea domination is very good to just ult and stall point for another 10% charge
That’s effectively 20% charge difference, plus ten for us and them losing the time for ten percent
yeah
I think my c&d ult usage was good except for that one crazy push into their spawn, but my invis ult usage is atrocious 😭
Lmaooo
oh and when I c&d ulted into hawkeye and he headshot me
that was unfortunate
Yea you gotta avoid directly going for Hawkeye, you become such a easy target
Yo that Bucky miscopy got me nervous
Worked out in the end lol
I killed rocket inside cloaks ult
you cooked with that and our team also went crazy
rocket died and we still wrecked them
without my ult we mightve lost it tho lol
Game is on god just who has ult and ultized it better to win
unless you have mangler
💀
What’s funny is that when he went peni at first, I was about to say we should recruit him if he’s good with peni
it was weird because he was pretty good but he didn't make much impact from camping halfway across the map
then uh
then that
Nah he just had super bad vibes
Being the whole team moral down
Same logic as the tilting mindset 😔
true lol
he was fine until he got stranded halfway across the map and blamed dps 😭
definitely the bps fault that you took on a 1v6 voluntarily
Yo remember that damn Ironman with 980 game played 💀
The season reset is made for people like him
46% win rate is crazy
He had a ton of hour on a ton of characters, forgot which aside from Ironman
I know good Jeff players exist but I have seen literally 1 on my games
OHH I remember yeah the Jeff wasn't him
he had mag next highest
Iv only seen them in videos 😔
And they look so op
oh and @hidden spindle ofc
they're beasts if they're good enough
we won that one with a good Jeff by a landslide because he was massacring their backline with a namor
I was the only actual support iirc and I had an easy time
Oh yea that sounds disgusting 😭
Can you imagine being a support
Then boom, die in 0.4 second, kill cam is squidward and a fish
😭
especially a luna boosted jeff
haven't played against a good one and a bad one was still scary
the dps and cc is crazy
that teamup leaving is definitely gonna help gut jeff
can't wait for his massive season 3 buffs
For sure
but remember guys he now has 70 whole water stream dps!!
climb to eternity until any of us get banned
Lmaooo
I still don’t think they will ban peni or rocket
Especially with the removal of inf ammo
It’s only wolverine, but he hasn’t been touched this patch
ig
rocket healing nerf is dumb
I do not get the point
it's his direct healing too
Also imo I think overall Luna got buffed
Her ult charge been raised, but her survivability is much higher
she did
its a huge ult charge increase but it was already so high
the anti dive is so much stronger
still crazy hard to wield but easier
Holy cow
:3
cygnus i was looking at the new jeff gameplay
you are so cooked until they buff him
i didnt think it was possible to make him a worse healer, but they did that and gutted his dive capabilities
Ajhhhjaaajjhhhhhahhgbbhjhvvvhuhaaabhhghh 😭 😭 😭 ajhhhhvbbvhjaaahjhbvbv
ok but there's hope
if they buff his healing from primary he could actually be really strong
rn he's like a season 0 rocket that trades some heals for damage (for the record I got called slurs for playing rocket in season 0/1 before his buffs)
rocket came back I believeee
also the storm combo is hilarious, even if it ends up not being good
Also hide and seek heals the original amount again
Yay
Also they changed a huge thinf
His primary pierces enemies again
You can heal through enemies
here's the new patch notes if you care
he's way better than the old but still gonna struggle
It looks really insignificant but a bit of free healing every 20 seconds can't hurt
The healing amount looks pretty sad but it's on everyone
Hmmm yummy
You're doing the damage so you're getting kill contributions on everything
The bubbles do get nerfed but shrugs
the storm combo might help grind the ultimate task idk
BUT I CANT AIIIM
IM A SUPPIRT FOR A REASOOOON
I CAN BE USEFULL
(I'm gonna miss all the hits)
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I believe in you
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Plus it's against machine enemies, not actual humans
Plus, you can't do funny larping
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no psylocke coming out of invisibility with Emma teamup, 0/10 accuracy
That’d mean they are running 2-3-1 
mhm.
after that match with cap and everything on klyntar i relate to this much more
LOL
LMAO
you wouldn't even believe it, that match was crazy, lord cap + thor + a dive duelist but I don't remember which one
I threw so bad but there was nothing I could do without our dps or tanks pressuring them off us when it's 2 tanks and a dps diving together
Eughh 😭
That sounds horrendous
one of my top 3 least fun ranked matches of all time
Oh damn
The rage of Ultron shall affect everyone
Ultron seems bad
He's just a duelist lying about his role
calling him a strategist is like calling dagger a duelist (not even cloak just dagger)

Cap is legit impossible to catch, Thor at least you can keep hitting him
can't wait for his nerfs
twice the cooldown on his shield is splendid but still gonna be a pain
On god, a good cap is so oppressive
The ultron gameplay showcase thing is so pathetic
He can't even keep the tank alive against one dps without popping his ult
venom and Jeff teamup gives allies a "large burst of healing"
ONLY IN COMPARISON TO HIS OTHER HEALING
c&d no abilities probably heals more
JEFF IS NOT THE WORST STRATEGIST 🔥
ultron on your team is worse than a bad widow
absolute throw pick
im just insane (ai match and my teammates sucked)
except peni
i take it back
back pick but not throw
the drone on a dive could be hell
(I can't even play the game lmao, keeps crashing)
(Linux issue due to whatever changes it to make it work iirc)
Drone do have a range limit from ultron I believe, so it can’t be like Luna flake
I did see one guy playing ultron as a offtank, it was such a amazing strat
I can see him working with mantis and a main heal
You fight directly on frontline
that's wild
his teamup is also really good, helps his healing a lot
Because ultron have a ton of utility to keep itself from dying
truee
Enemy attention will be on you, but as long as you play well, you will never die
A off tank just taking attention
Ultron is actually way stronger than I expected anti dive
His primary is nearly impossible to dodge when it explodes
Amazing mobility in the dash
self shield
I think mantis has better heal 😭
Prob 💀
On day 1 everyone was running ultron + one real support but it meant nobody was at a disadvantage because everyone had one healer
Half the time the game was won by a day 1 ultron diff 😭
The dude playing ultron as offtank was smerfing, but playing like that he legit got like 80% win rate with all as mvp in diamond if I recall correctly
So the play style do work
I can definitely see ultron farming mvp super easy
Lots of damage, burst damage for finals, and tons of assist + healing over time
Similar to jeff
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Didn’t see the whole thing lol, I just saw like first 5 min
Cause rest was just gameplay
Yo I would be scared to fight this type of play style, cause very little hero can reliably take down ultron solo
So you’d need whole team attention, and once that happen enemy dps and tank would take that opportunity
I feel like a decent hela or punisher could shred him
Yea it’d also depend on enemy team comp heavily
Would work against most comp tho
I think hela could take care of ultron on her own with little help, but punisher would need help from the team, assuming bro doesn’t have god aim
He would be amazing against the thing if you're smart enough to dodge his slam
A great hulk can put a lot of pressure on ultron
I am not good enough to consistently air grab people aside from iron man 😔
Iron man is just easy, prob because he got no mobility
he has mobility but not reactively
takes a sec to start flying fast ans he can't attack while doing it unless you count missile
Yo someone people are saying Jeff change is a buff 😭 😭 😭 😭
Crazy take
Trying to justify it with winrate and whatnot
He's probably better in low elo qm and bronze when there's not much damage being dealt for him to heal
HE HAS TWO AND ONE IS A RECOLOUR SHUT UP
"ranking ultron's skin and default appearance in marvel rivals"
Lmfao 💀
@hidden spindle
Jeff skin
Let's see if I can launch the game 
Pfft
im chasing you down
hes mid but not terrible, pretty fun to play in quick match
he plays like season 0 rocket with more utility
you nerded too close to the sun
I blame the pipeline
there's no escape
I had to, it was required
arch linux calls to you
I'm too stupid for that
I just fixed screen tearing issues on OBS 😭
the pipe leads far ahead of you
Thanks
Lots of idiots in marvel rival seem to like this idea 😭
Literally no difference then looking at damage blocked, as well as the fact that it doesn’t prove anything, if they are dying more then others on their team, then it’s definitely a their problem with bad positioning
that sounds like "who can stand in front of the enemies best"
jeff stole the thing's phone this is amazing
live footage of me
4200 blue coins holy shmoley
not anymore :3

omg i was on vanguard and not the weak link for oncee (groot for a while until they went wolv)
i also got a 4 kill, 3 final groot ult which was so fun
pulled out support ults another tjme
our iron fist had a chronic case of qm lord who can't play
props to rocket for initially being cap and switching to like 3 supports trying to save the game 😭
opposite of props to mag who locked in as our third tank and refused to switch
Pro
Is celes possible this season
Amazing skin 🔥
half a battle pass for pink vemon and a costum coin 😭
I'm probably just grabbing the free Jeff's kicks and leaving the rest
at least mag and storm were both really good in the combat chest, and you get jeff emotes
It's in the free path
that's why the free path is amazing
Oh W
We haven’t gotten on rival in so long
😭
At least gotten on rival rank grind in so long
true 😭
This weekend maybe rival? Or you don’t have time
I'll try but I think it might have to be after my exam
Yea that make sense
Mine ends at wedensday, so on Wednesday let’s do rival if you can make it 😎
I think so
I'd play more if my game didn't crash do often lol
😔
"C++ compiler has failed"

Might need to force it to use proton
makes me think of that AI generated shark
idk what you mean luckily
oh god
phoenix mk skin looks incredible omg
lord jeff (i was luna with 38% accuracy and then invis)
practice vs ai gets wild
LMAO ??
5 tanks 1 rocket..
I've never actually seen it
the funniest part is that you guys are getting rolled (makes sense since you don't have any heavy dps, you can't burst down a tank with those)
we where
😭
until we didnt
amd 2 of them went dps
😭
we actually won that one funnily enough
and then after that we lost a game where we spent 4 mins on the last 10 meters
usually because the enemies use their brain cell and swap to a comp that counters you
usually you gotta swap too
how dare you say i gotta swap jeff /hj
nah never you
jeff is a beast
unless you're fighting bp
then Jeff is not the best pick
I popped off on Jeff the other day, he's actually so good if you play him well
hes the only character im good at (im never able to heal because a unicorn is more common than me hitting my shots)
The bubbles bonus healing from all sources is extremely strong, and he has pretty good healing unless your team doesn't know what cover is
i remember when we had 6
good times
okay yes old bubbles seemed better but I don't think they had the healing boost
these ones are actually more useful, you just need to know what you're doing
a bubbled target getting constantly hit by the splash has higher healing per second than luna with a snowflakr
they did
it was the only to heal myself
uhhhh nvm then they're worse
ithiink
unless you mean they buffed the heal
idk why he feels so much stronger now? I don't see how unless they didnt
no like, the healing bonus from all sources when a target has been bubbled
his primary healing actually got nerfed to compensate for that being added I thought??
i used it both to heal myself when uhm.... "groot riding" and too give groot a speed buff (can you tell the nly reason i got this far is bc of groot)
the humble moon knight or phoenix:
that definitely got weakened by the changes
He's quite a strong backline healer now though, although youll need to swap him to invis or something if you're getting outdamaged
I wish the groot teamup gave Jeff passive healing, it might actually be good then
Or a shared health pool
at least the sprays actually do damage now
(exactly how i thought they worked for the first 10 hours of my jeff gameplay)
(btw did i mention i have 50 hrs on this game)
(45hrs are jeff)
only really enough to poke flyers behind cover or finish off fleeing people on low health
Although
It's extremely fun to punish low health supports that don't know what cover is
iv gotten a few kills w/ it
i die so often
because
they hate me :(
LOL
foxhole is kinda wack
they where indeed, watching the minecraft movie'
too bad i hit my shots as often as people hit headshots]
so the chance is
sq(headshot)
As often groot or the thing, Jeff is the worst support to lock down tho
He's so annoying to finish off
the iron man who ignored a captain american just so he could pulverise my ass
actually a fantastic play
iron man I hate
As an invis main I am equally countered by him
Although as the thing
He's basically cannon fodder
also once a spider man was bullying us so i said in chat "I get why J.J.Johnson hates you spider man"
hes mean :(
also wolverine
too many times have i had my ribcage opened by him
JAMESON??
the funniest part is it was in a corridor
Oh lord you're talking to a groot main
:( i dont remember okayy
I am d1 wolv hater
Yes that's why I love sending him to hell where he belongs as the thing
so like, cap runs through a corrdior, the iron man ignores him, cap doesnt see him, ironman uses the budget kame ame ah
fuck

why was that the top
ahem
(emoji looked mean :( )
what is kame ame ah
OHH
HE ULTED YOU??
that is not a fantastic play
if it was the normal attack then it is
ahh yeah
tbh if you got stuck within that range of an iron man you sort of deserved it 💀 but also your cap absolutely threw there
he should've handled that
not to say I don't do the same every time i play invis against an iron man 😌
playing ranked and our gold lord mag has landed every single ult on every single opposing c&d ult
It's wild
quite possibly the greatest damage output diff of all time
jeff was lord spidey 💀
i- how
actually i take it back
she played amazing, just was the wrong comp for her and i was covering a lot of the healing
kept me alive against their spiderman more than an invis has any right to do lol
our dps (except spiderman, funnily enough) was real toxic though. like please stop using your ult 1v6 behind a wall in their backline and getting melted, then blaming heals and mocking us for any less than perfect ult usage (like one time the invis got killed mid animation. you cannot predict that 😭)
i hate being back in gold let me OUT
We where in a VC and he didn't even notice it LMAO
But also like how was I supposed to know he would pop from a corner like that
omg i cooked
holy cooking
also ignore the absurd deaths, 5 or so were stupid ones at the start
also we had one healer tbh (Adam was an instalock and refused to switch)
"in war, quantity of death matters not, only the quality of those who sacrificed themselves"
-probably some guy idk (i made that shit up im NOT cooking)
solo healing until the last minute
we almost lost 3 times
i was ace for 90% until my friend got a bunch of kills by using ult on the cart
the game was so cooked

hawkeye had to be a substitute right
only reason you won is because their comp was somehow worse tbh
so uhm
tell me what he would be replacing

rocket swapped between tank and dps for so long
heres the fun part
that damage and accuracy means he just wasn't shooting for most of it
oh yeah, barely switched on rocket it looks like
seems they were trying to tank before but in this comp that's not helping
they where dps until the last checkpoint
after which they schizphrenically changed between dps and tank until 1 and a hlf mins left
and- and they still have 5k damage??
yes

i remember a friend going "DUDE WHERE ARE THE HEALERS" to which i responded "you mean healer"
I thought they were like a mag or emma that could barely get around the corner without dying
lemme check the logs to see what they where
peni or MAYBE mk if you're feeling real generous are the only ones that can even say the word healer in this scenario
and they should be smart enough to see what's wrong
my friend was the peni
also the mk was hela for most of the game
until we had to lock in so hard a bank would look unsecure
your friend had basic competence
😭
hela.. into a groot and psylocke...
THE FACT WE WON IS A MYSTERY TO ME TOO
(acc i cant remember if it was hela or pheonix)
we OT'ed like 2 times 😭
and i had a few good ults iirc
I'd blame ultron since whenverr I have one on my team we lose because they pump out about 17 heals across the whole gane
yes ultron can be good in the right comp but anything with a solo tank or the thing is the wrong comp
you already won so hard that the game had to throw the others a bone
it's workable against 1 star bots and that's about it
i swear 😭
holy shit 😭
HOW LONG WAS I AFK FOR 😭
god jeff player (not chef autocorrect 😭)
LMAO
I'm going to take the Swedish translation saying I'm good, not god
someone played rivals with the fantastic four cast and showed them the malice skin 😭
pure rage
lmao
i know 😭
ill prolly get it this game ytho
just go for the ults and you've got a good chance
otherwise maybe 2 games for time played
I HATE EVERYTHING
1 KILL, OR 1 SWALLOW, OR 2 MINUTEs
IM GONNA FUCKING CRASH OUT
LMAOOOO
THIS GAME
I HATE MY LIFE
THE 6TH AS WELL
WHY
Guys you think this is enough for lord ?
also game before looked like this
spider man and bp where on my ass 24/7 eating me like sushi
uhm
why are your colours so close
spray your friends and enemies ig
I could never
i forgor
cant change it now or i need to change the ini file of the game
qm dps players will never swap to namor
yeah it's in the game settings no?
if i change settings i change that
and i have a whole side quest 😔
oh wild

I'm gonna find the pipeline meme and edit jeff proficiency stages onto it instead of coding languages
LMAO
make sure to inlcude skins
@fiery aspen i made it
PEAK
took like 15 mins lmao
😭
still cis tho
2 stars on luna is wild too
adam and c&d are 3 😭
invis and loki are 4, reasonable tbh
jeff and freaking MANTIS are 1 😭
rocket is 1, reasonable
ultron is 2
my game immediately outright crashed 💀
still cis
i- what?? 😭 i mean it doesnt matter but how the hell
i quite literally did better in every way
💀
thats not very fantastic
they must weight the torch + thing teamup super high for some reason
It shouldn't
Usually a 6 final hit difference will get you mvp even if you absolutely sucked in every other stat
its so rigged
has to be secret
fr 💔
3 way most assists lol
slacking on the job ey 😔 /j /j /j
i was COOKING
ess emm eichhh
landed most of my freezes against their cap/venom/hulk
i did not cook on ults admittedly
rip :(
still got the most healing on our team by a lot
their team slightly outhealed me bc they only had 2 supports
we had 3 most of the game
i was NOT letting adam and mantis heal alone while i played tank

the match before we were 4 dps and i was jeff, outdamaged 2 of our dps
💀
smartest qm party
i got more final hits than namor
and 1k less damage
HE HAD THE HULK TEAMUP AT THE END
:(
oh boy I sure do love having hulk on my head while rocket is halfway across the freaking map, alone, healing only himself
Love when healers do that 💔 (I'm always healer)
Me too
But I've been learning invis and luna and neither can self heal a hulk away
C&D can't even really outheal a good hulk
Your team comp fucks over hulk so bad 💀
Tho that’s just the team comp 😔
Doesn’t matter if the person playing the hero suck
It should but these dumbasses did not know how to play the game
Mag was amazing, he played really well
The rest 💀
bubbled me mid hulk many times while the rest of our team completely ignored him
phoenix on invis was also pretty good but i understand the switch, she was getting destroyed by hulk even with my help
Had good aim but zero positioning or game sense
As a dps
Had I played hulk into that team comp with compentent enemy
I would’ve have to switch after the first death 💀 💀
Oh wait do gamma team up still exist?
If it does then hulk is a decent play here just simply for the team up, just gotta play way more passively, tho it sounds like their hulk can walk into your back line without worrying about dps 😭
yeah that namor was screwing us up
this team did not know what a second tank is
Well punisher did a bit but just swapped off
He was playing the thing by diving around a corner into their team and was then surprised when there was nothing we could do to keep him alive
Shit bro playing thing like bp 💀
Man I’ll be so rusty when I come back to rival, tho I don’t even think I really got time to play this season
Might have to wait for season four then climb all the way up again
LITERALLY
I'm gonna try and hit plat for 3.5 then lock in before 4
That's one game if I win my next match lol
my friend
there is a day and a few hours left
tomorrow is the last full day
I am gold 1
😭
To be clear I mean plat BEFORE 3.5 starts
gonna go for gm for during 3.5
Ah I see
Did you hit plat then 👀
Yeah :D
Had a couple bad matches then 4 great matches then another bad match so I gave up
But that landed me in plat 3
How long is season 3.5
Yea if it’s a month then I got no chance to climb to celes, maybe gm if I tried but I’d most likely be playing other game
Just gonna wait till season four, where I’ll be like silver >:)
I will probably try to get gm but blade scares me as a support main
He will mean people need to play smarter and I'm in plat so that's not happening
What’s blades kit
Wait blade is Melee right
I think I know who I’ll be trying next 😎
antiheal 
What the fuck
Antiheal???
Alr bro sounds like I need to learn him, gotta be able to play the busted hero to ensure at least one isn’t banned 😎
yeah like 40% 💀
I think that's just on his ult but
That means he can counter a support ult
Oh just the ult
I think just the 40%
Pretty sure he's got weaker antiheal on other attacks
Haven't played him tho
Sounds like a tank buster
Good to know two tank buster…. Double the chance of ruining the enemy tank experience
I’ll have to check it out once am back
as a flex support/tank I hate you /j
Ay man I am a Loki main tho 😔
But as a Loki main, I am never going back to Loki
The support experience is just too shit
I've descended back to a c&d main for ranked
Had some crazy games on invis though
Once I got a double kill on both enemy supports with a bubble into a pull 💀 idk how
What the fuck
Nah ngl you should try Loki, legit it is all game sense
Have you tried him yet
Nah I don't really like playing him
😔
I know he's broken but he just feels sort of sluggish and unresponsive
Oh yea I get what you mean
That’s just the learning phase, after getting used to him he’d be very mobile
True, I just don't know if it's worth it to me
With certain annoying interaction here and there
I already play all but 4? supports 😭
Adam mantis loki ultron
I might pick up mantis for the new teamup, it's wild
Broo 😭
Oh also
and it give groot freaking self heal
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I do on c&d or rocket as well though
Or luna if I'm playing really well
or invis if my other healer is any good
or Jeff if it's not bp 💀
Jeff's match up with bp is not favourable
Nah rocket is just avoiding dive
C&d is pretty similar to countering dive like Loki
not against dive tanks
he can absolutely shred dive tanks
that minigun is no joke against a venom
Oh true
Or thing or thor
Although he does need support from the other healer for that
I find he can kill magik pretty easily too
Psy or bp or spiderman he's not killing them though
yeah
If your going to learn yet another support, I urge you to play Loki
same idea but a bit less overpowered but a bit better against spiderman
The best support into brawl comp
I'm probably just going to practice luna and invis for now, don't have lord on either
Jeff is fun and actually quite strong but I can't justify playing him in ranked unless we have a storm or venom
Even Jeff into venom is throwing 😔
I will only acccept a Jeff onto my team if we have a storm, it’s just that unfortunate
not if you can actually play him and they don't have anyone that counters him
into bp or mk or psy, then sure Jeff is throwing
he's great when you can heal both tanks and maybe a flyer with him though
Works amazing with ultron
Ultron Jeff 😭 😭 😭
Forfeit atp 😔
Zero support ult
Jeff main issue I got with him is that he has zero support ult, and if you include a second healer without support ult it’s just gg, no way you win unless enemy team is clearly shitter then your team
eh, it can be a throw but it often isn't
(And it’s one of the worse support to play alongside Loki, this mental repulsion is ingrained in my mind)
I do think a jeff ult rework would be so nice though
His is hilarious but it's not very good outside of storm, which is when it's not even his ult anymore
People would whine so much if he just got another healbot ult though
Nah nah, the fact that it is being selected will give your teammate a 10% moral decrease, and 50% more likely to crash out and ruin the game for your team
And that is a fact sadly 😭
😭
Look I still said I can't justify playing him in ranked but he's still a good support
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Better then mantis
And Adam
Two worse support ingame
Had to get team up with the best two support ingame to get any relevance
both are actually quite a lot better this season
Did they get buffed
they got teamups with real supports and buffs to their ults
Oh nice
luna + adam and manti + loki + groot
Adam's ult is still problematic but at least you're less likely to get wiped after respawing
get percentage shield health or something
then mantis just got buffed across the board except for decreased ammo iirc
her healing dropped but i think my friend said the anchor bonus covers it
OH
and mantis does percentage heal now
hugest buff for her ever
in addition to normal heal
I'm excited to see mantis
Actually be okay
I'm also excited to see the Adam teamup with luna because it's worse than the iron fist + luna but at least it's still self sustain
Mantis and Loki is still among the worse support combo in my experience
I feel like mantis + loki + ultron would be pretty broken
You need another high burst healing hero alongside Loki
if the mantis and ultron are coordinated I feel like they could accomplish that
they both have slight burst and then heavy sustain
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The loki would definitely need to have the main burst but you can go two tanks since all supports have such high damage, then you can heal both at once
me and a friend spent ages brainstorming a comp built around that lol
Triple support comp?
I think it was groot, hulk/mag depending on enemy comp, bucky, ultron, mantis, loki
yeah just for fun lol
the thing with these supports is they all hit so hard you'd have no trouble keeping up damage like triple support comps usually do
They all also have fairly fast support ults
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Overall especially if you go hulk it'd be such an absurdly hard pushing comp
You'd need so much heals and really smart tanks to survive it, or you'd need so much damage you can kill them before they get to use it
It'd need to be played smart but it'd be so strong
I think
I always feel like hulk and groot is counterproductive combo
nah only if they're uncoordinated
Groot you’d want to wall of enemy, removing los into enemy back line, and hulk you’d want to go into their back line and take attention, tho that’s depending on enemy comp
True, but you COULD also slap a drone and mantis heals on hulk and let him terrorize the backline while blocking off tanks/dps with groot
You could go with another tank but we found issues with most of them except magneto, who's just sort of okay
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magneto might be one of the most balanced units in the game
Actually true
I wish he felt more responsive to play
Been so consistent yet not op since release
Yeah
And he's actually super strong if you master him but that's so hard to do
Like a bad strange is way better than a bad mag, but a crazy mag is going to be more useful than a crazy strange any day
Yo imagine a comp where every hero summons stuff, like Loki and namor, and in this situation the enemy is forced to take attention off the fight and destroy the summon every few seconds or be fucked
Like Loki, rocket, mk, namor, peni, hulk, smth like this
What other summon hero is there
Just imagine this comp working properly, wouldn’t it be so fucking annoying
You have to destroy mk anuk every single time, have to destroy peni nest every single time to progress, have to destroy rocket revive, and have to destroy gamma squid and other squids
Loki can play offensive clones, creating a 250 hp meat shield here and there
Then hulk just goes in for addition distraction 😭
Pure evil incarceration
that is terrifying
if you're tossing rocket revives into the enemy team that's kinda dumb tho
Yea that’d be hidden away, but dives if they have any might be distracted destroying them
with mk and namor for sure, but peni you want to hide nests
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Peni with the teamup already makes dives look like bronze players
if you just stand in the nest
Forcing enemy to spend mad long to destroy it 😭
While being terrorized
Like you ban phoenix and punisher, shits gg
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If only there was a six man squad we can be in to actually play all these ideas 😔
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Omg how did I forget groot, the person with the summons
New comp, Loki rocket mk namor peni groot
Lose gamma squid but have massive meat shields that damage nearby enemy if not destroyed
Loki got nerfed so hard 😭 😭 😭
Damage 30>25, originally you’d do 90 dmg to enemy, meaning 270 dmg with three hits to kill squishy. Now you do 75 dmg to enemy, meaning only a mere 225 dmg, your no longer killing shit with Loki 😭 😭
what a shame 💀
It would’ve taken around 3.5 second to kill a squichy, which is pretty decent, not insane but can take them out by surprise
Now it’s 5.25 seconds 💀
Yea no enemy is not getting healed within 5.25 seconds
Just counting out 5 seconds in your mind take forever, 3 second is viable but 5 is not 😭
I still don’t know what’s damage rune lol
But this change lowkey gutted Loki
Was the best due to survivability, healing, and damage, now that damage is gutted by 20%, I don’t think he’s the best anymore
his invincibility rune literally just gives damage buff in a giant radius
it's insane
gutted to being still probably top 3 support 😭
Yea top 3 😔
Top 3 out of what, 5 viable healers? 😭
Still good for healing but, if I play him it will be so much harder to kill anybody
Ngl the nerf is deserved, 3 second KO time on a no aim strategies that already pump the second highest healing output does sound a little broken💀
But I will not accept it
honestly most of them are viable rn
😔
it is 😭 he's still amazing
Lots of healer got super low base healing output in exchange for certain utiles, pair two of them up and it’s gg for you if the enemy run a high damage comp
Like mantis, ultron, c&d, and jeff
Tho this would only really apply higher up in rank, anything below and quick play doesn’t matter
Massive weakness that require a second high healing output hero to patch up
nah c&d works as a primary healer unless you're stupid
although solo tank really hurts them
ultron is the single most throw pick ive ever seen
Add in Adam and maybe rocket? Probably depend on team comp
rocket is so situational to be good
Nah nvm rocket is fine
he goes from genuinely #1 pick to throw pick depending on your comp and enemy damage output
jeff is not a throw pick anymore but his ult does suck
Jeff? The bubble change really hurt Jeff’s healing output
mantis definitely struggles against high dps but I've found mantis + loki + groot comps to be really effective lately
Like any lower healing output hero would work as long as you got a main healer
c&d Imo I would still consider a lower output healer, tho the closest to primary healer
To me it seem like c&d is very similar to old rocket, where their heal amount is very inflated due to patching up the little-medium missing health instead of having the heals to fully save someone without another healers help. The ability give C&D the needed burst heals, but like it’d go on cooldown often so it’s not always there unlike other primary healers
i agree
eh, it does have the cooldown but they burst out WAY more healing with the cooldowns than other primary healers can
i agree
If you use the ability often, it will not be there when it’s needed. When you save them, you’d very much relying on your other teammates to pump out heals on small dmg bursts
like an invis is more consistent but if you just need to keep someone alive c&d is way better
that's true but I think if you're smart about your cooldowns it's not too bad
I will clarify
Your average lord c&d is not a primary healer
my friend who (pretty much) only gets MVP's when using loki with be in a state of disrepair
loki is definitely the second most mvp farming support
genuinly we started praying on his downfall for funnies
(downfall as in, not getting MVP)
as a non loki support player, understandable
Nuh uh, jeff is the second most mvp farming support
Wait no
Jeff is the most svp farming support 🔥 🔥 🔥
No mvp
Seen so much jeff players, not healing the team, get a couple picks with his ult and survive by himself while his team dies, then end the game as svp 😭
not at all
not unless your team actually sucks
he does get svp sometimes when the match up is so bad that the only kills your team really ever gets is from the ult
I do see mvp Jeff, just not super often
You know the team sucks when jeff gets mvp 😔
That's what I tell my friends
SOBVBING????
it was practice vs ai but dps rocket is still so funny
they all went dps and peni so I morally had to go rocket but I also had quests to get critical hits and killstreaks
Big numbers make brain go unga bunga lol
@hidden spindle Jeff ult buff and I literally called it yesterday when I was talking to a friend about what buffs we'd like to see to different ults, I suggested exactly what it is lol
Its actually huge
NOOO ANOTHER LOKI NERF
This one is so uncalled for
Last one already hurt Loki by so much
yeah this loki nerf feels bad to me
just about every other change is great in this patch but loki is weird
Ooooh