#Marvel Rivals

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fast niche
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Plat 3 no?

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We just kinda have to recruit player, let’s think about that later when your on

fiery aspen
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are tournament and championship different

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bc tournament is Plat 3 and open for a while

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It might be closed

fiery aspen
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nvm idk what I read

fast niche
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hulk peaked back up

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back to diamond 1

fiery aspen
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fantastic

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(it was not, they had an iron man which kinda counters me)

fast niche
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I got back to support for the event quest, I am so rusty 😭

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I actually can’t play support atp

fiery aspen
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i actually can't play anything except support

fiery aspen
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this is so unfun to play against omg

fast niche
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Bs bs and bs on you the whole time 😭

fiery aspen
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And I play support, specifically one without self heal rn 😭

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ok im actually super proud of this match

fast niche
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Huge carry

fiery aspen
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I'm pretty sure both of my deaths were getting trapped by the hulk

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invis works pretty well against him tho

fast niche
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played strange first half then swapped to loki when we lost 0-3 , even tho i lost i feel like i'v maybe unrusted on support 😎

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really need that triple heal crutch to do my work, idk if i can handle 2 support

fiery aspen
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what the actual hell were your other healers doing the first round, unless it was truly that much shorter

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even if it was a third of the length they still weren't playing great

fast niche
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It was only a little shorter, however we went overtime, I think it’s correct to estimate 1/3 of the round

fiery aspen
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ah alright

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is that just a team diff, I don't see a huge issue overall

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maybe dps

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or heals diff is possible actually that luna is insane

fast niche
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yea team diff, wolverine was lowkey not doing very hot imo

fiery aspen
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yeah alright

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that tracks

fast niche
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like thor went backline, and bro just went foward for groot

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he should be going for thor even if groot was a better matchup, wtf was he doing

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but stat wise he popped off, maybe i just didnt see all that

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lots of time you just dont know what went wrong, you dont got the pov of everyone

fiery aspen
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yeah

fast niche
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actually no, ik what went wrong

fiery aspen
fast niche
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enemy team rolled us, then we rolled them after we swapped roles, so we went into overtime

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during our team attacking, thor went backline alone, so rocket went to attack him, and nobody went with rocket, then bro died and we lost cause there was only a minute on the clock

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wolverine should've went with rocket to attack that thor and turn that into a 6v5, thats what went wrong

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so cart didnt move a inch so enemy won

fiery aspen
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ahh

fast niche
fiery aspen
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im opening the game rn lol

fast niche
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wtf bro

fiery aspen
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wifi issue

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happened a lot for me

fast niche
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what do i do

fiery aspen
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idk you can cancel and restart steam or go through anyways

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I don't think it's saved to steam, I think it's saved to rivals servers

fiery aspen
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@hidden spindle free dolphin jeff

hidden spindle
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GIMMEEE

fiery aspen
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you dont get the mvp but you do get the costume itself

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just gotta play 3 games a day for a week

hidden spindle
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Augh gotta play, I'll do tmrw

hidden spindle
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Fooable

fiery aspen
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like if you can do 2 days worth in 1 if you missed it

hidden spindle
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Based on how they did so far possibly

fiery aspen
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its 21 games played anyways which for a 1400 unit costume is pretty awesome

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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@hidden spindle they gutted your child and he was already one ofthe weakest supports

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idk what theyre on

fiery aspen
fast niche
fiery aspen
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a good jeff is gonna be cc hell tho

fiery aspen
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venom combo looks straight up bad, storm one looks quite nasty in the right hands

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Also they buffed his healing again already lmao

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The patch notes now say to 130 not 100

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I still hate it but it's better

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I keep seeing people say they buffed his healing and I'm just like ????? his bubbles heal more yes but it's over time, as an early season 1 rocket player nobody wants that and burst is way way way better. also he has half ammo lmao

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and it doesn't catapult enemies to get your duelist home safe

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he's been gutted and people are saying it's a huge buff

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fiery aspen
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back up

fast niche
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When you hitting celes troleadorcraneo

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Idk if I want a rank reset for the half season

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It feel too early but I don’t wanna have last seasons rank situation repeat

fiery aspen
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I'll try not to throw _frogfire

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I've been cooking recently

fast niche
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Lmao I need to not throw on hulk

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I did not cook today

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Messed up my ult a lot lately for some reason

fiery aspen
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It looked like you were using it as a reaction but most of the times you really needed it as a reaction it was because the rest of the team was dead

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might want to try using it more aggressively when we get a small advantage to turn it into a major push

fast niche
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Mm true

fiery aspen
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at least for me, I was dead at least half the times you ulted lol

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sometimes it works because you hold ground but only really on domination

fast niche
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Oh yea domination is very good to just ult and stall point for another 10% charge

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That’s effectively 20% charge difference, plus ten for us and them losing the time for ten percent

fiery aspen
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yeah

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I think my c&d ult usage was good except for that one crazy push into their spawn, but my invis ult usage is atrocious 😭

fast niche
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Lmaooo

fiery aspen
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that was unfortunate

fast niche
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Yea you gotta avoid directly going for Hawkeye, you become such a easy target

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Yo that Bucky miscopy got me nervous

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Worked out in the end lol

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I killed rocket inside cloaks ult

fiery aspen
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you cooked with that and our team also went crazy

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rocket died and we still wrecked them

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without my ult we mightve lost it tho lol

fast niche
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Game is on god just who has ult and ultized it better to win

fiery aspen
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unless you have mangler

fast niche
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💀

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What’s funny is that when he went peni at first, I was about to say we should recruit him if he’s good with peni

fiery aspen
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it was weird because he was pretty good but he didn't make much impact from camping halfway across the map

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then uh

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then that

fast niche
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Nah he just had super bad vibes

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Being the whole team moral down

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Same logic as the tilting mindset 😔

fiery aspen
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true lol

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he was fine until he got stranded halfway across the map and blamed dps 😭

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definitely the bps fault that you took on a 1v6 voluntarily

fast niche
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Yo remember that damn Ironman with 980 game played 💀

fiery aspen
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LMAO

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yes

fast niche
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The season reset is made for people like him

fiery aspen
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what a beast

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loss farming his way to high diamond

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he was lord Jeff too right

fast niche
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46% win rate is crazy

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He had a ton of hour on a ton of characters, forgot which aside from Ironman

fiery aspen
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I know good Jeff players exist but I have seen literally 1 on my games

fiery aspen
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he had mag next highest

fast niche
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And they look so op

fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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we won that one with a good Jeff by a landslide because he was massacring their backline with a namor

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I was the only actual support iirc and I had an easy time

fast niche
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Oh yea that sounds disgusting 😭

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Can you imagine being a support

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Then boom, die in 0.4 second, kill cam is squidward and a fish

fiery aspen
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😭

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especially a luna boosted jeff

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haven't played against a good one and a bad one was still scary

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the dps and cc is crazy

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that teamup leaving is definitely gonna help gut jeff

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can't wait for his massive season 3 buffs

fast niche
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For sure

fiery aspen
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but remember guys he now has 70 whole water stream dps!!

fast niche
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Next season if we recruit a good peni

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:)

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Every single game they will suffer so bad

fiery aspen
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climb to eternity until any of us get banned

fast niche
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Lmaooo

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I still don’t think they will ban peni or rocket

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Especially with the removal of inf ammo

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It’s only wolverine, but he hasn’t been touched this patch

fiery aspen
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rocket healing nerf is dumb

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I do not get the point

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it's his direct healing too

fast niche
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Also imo I think overall Luna got buffed

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Her ult charge been raised, but her survivability is much higher

fiery aspen
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she did

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its a huge ult charge increase but it was already so high

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the anti dive is so much stronger

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still crazy hard to wield but easier

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fiery aspen
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cygnus i was looking at the new jeff gameplay

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you are so cooked until they buff him

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i didnt think it was possible to make him a worse healer, but they did that and gutted his dive capabilities

fiery aspen
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ok but there's hope

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if they buff his healing from primary he could actually be really strong

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rn he's like a season 0 rocket that trades some heals for damage (for the record I got called slurs for playing rocket in season 0/1 before his buffs)

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rocket came back I believeee

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also the storm combo is hilarious, even if it ends up not being good

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Also hide and seek heals the original amount again

fiery aspen
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Also they changed a huge thinf

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His primary pierces enemies again

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You can heal through enemies

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here's the new patch notes if you care

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he's way better than the old but still gonna struggle

hidden spindle
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Also, venom combo cooks or nah ?

fiery aspen
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It looks really insignificant but a bit of free healing every 20 seconds can't hurt

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The healing amount looks pretty sad but it's on everyone

fiery aspen
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I think he's a pretty solid third support

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Work really well with like mantis + invis

hidden spindle
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Hmm

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I'm never getting lord Jeff am I ?

fiery aspen
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Actually

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This helps a lot for getting lord jeff I think

hidden spindle
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Yay :D

fiery aspen
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You're doing the damage so you're getting kill contributions on everything

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The bubbles do get nerfed but shrugs

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the storm combo might help grind the ultimate task idk

hidden spindle
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IM A SUPPIRT FOR A REASOOOON

fiery aspen
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ok well it's Jeff's primary

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hold left click and look at people

hidden spindle
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I CAN BE USEFULL

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(I'm gonna miss all the hits)

fiery aspen
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When in doubt ||(haha tøp reference)||, blame dps /j

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I believe in you

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you've played helldivers and ultrakill

hidden spindle
# fiery aspen you've played helldivers and ultrakill

Helldivers only requires that I throw the large ordinance in the general direction (plus there is a lack of verticality, you cannot jump in that game and there's not much elevation except on some plants types) and ultrakill is just "shoot coin or punch shotgun and win" (/j ofc it's a bit deeper but your also being super duper aggressive and getting all in the enemies face)

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Plus it's against machine enemies, not actual humans

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Plus, you can't do funny larping

fiery aspen
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no psylocke coming out of invisibility with Emma teamup, 0/10 accuracy

fast niche
fiery aspen
fast niche
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LOL

hidden spindle
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LMAO

fiery aspen
# hidden spindle LMAO

you wouldn't even believe it, that match was crazy, lord cap + thor + a dive duelist but I don't remember which one

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I threw so bad but there was nothing I could do without our dps or tanks pressuring them off us when it's 2 tanks and a dps diving together

hidden spindle
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That sounds horrendous

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
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The rage of Ultron shall affect everyone

fiery aspen
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Ultron seems bad

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He's just a duelist lying about his role

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calling him a strategist is like calling dagger a duelist (not even cloak just dagger)

fast niche
fiery aspen
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can't wait for his nerfs

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twice the cooldown on his shield is splendid but still gonna be a pain

fast niche
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On god, a good cap is so oppressive

fiery aspen
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can we have a moment of silence for jeff

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until they buff him through the roof

fiery aspen
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The ultron gameplay showcase thing is so pathetic

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He can't even keep the tank alive against one dps without popping his ult

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venom and Jeff teamup gives allies a "large burst of healing"
ONLY IN COMPARISON TO HIS OTHER HEALING

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c&d no abilities probably heals more

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JEFF IS NOT THE WORST STRATEGIST 🔥

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ultron on your team is worse than a bad widow

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absolute throw pick

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im just insane (ai match and my teammates sucked)

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except peni

fiery aspen
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back pick but not throw

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the drone on a dive could be hell

hidden spindle
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(I can't even play the game lmao, keeps crashing)

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(Linux issue due to whatever changes it to make it work iirc)

fast niche
fiery aspen
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ohhh

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I didn't know that

fast niche
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I did see one guy playing ultron as a offtank, it was such a amazing strat

fiery aspen
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tank??

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or healer

fast niche
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Very dependent on enemy team comp, but should work in most senarios

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Off tank yea

fiery aspen
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I can see him working with mantis and a main heal

fast niche
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You fight directly on frontline

fiery aspen
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his teamup is also really good, helps his healing a lot

fast niche
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Because ultron have a ton of utility to keep itself from dying

fiery aspen
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truee

fast niche
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Enemy attention will be on you, but as long as you play well, you will never die

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A off tank just taking attention

fiery aspen
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Ultron is actually way stronger than I expected anti dive

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His primary is nearly impossible to dodge when it explodes

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Amazing mobility in the dash

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self shield

fast niche
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Only heal is garbage, but it’s consistent

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You can heal yourself very well with it

fiery aspen
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I think mantis has better heal 😭

fast niche
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Prob 💀

fiery aspen
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On day 1 everyone was running ultron + one real support but it meant nobody was at a disadvantage because everyone had one healer

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Half the time the game was won by a day 1 ultron diff 😭

fast niche
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The dude playing ultron as offtank was smerfing, but playing like that he legit got like 80% win rate with all as mvp in diamond if I recall correctly

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So the play style do work

fiery aspen
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I can definitely see ultron farming mvp super easy

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Lots of damage, burst damage for finals, and tons of assist + healing over time

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Similar to jeff

fast niche
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Full Ultron game review of a high ranked lobby of Marvel Rivals, showcasing a frontline brawler playstyle that will win you games ft.The Coach. We turn the strategist, Ultron, into Brawl-tron for this Coach breakdown!

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Support Coach and his Chan...

▶ Play video
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Didn’t see the whole thing lol, I just saw like first 5 min

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Cause rest was just gameplay

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Yo I would be scared to fight this type of play style, cause very little hero can reliably take down ultron solo

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So you’d need whole team attention, and once that happen enemy dps and tank would take that opportunity

fiery aspen
fast niche
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Yea it’d also depend on enemy team comp heavily

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Would work against most comp tho

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I think hela could take care of ultron on her own with little help, but punisher would need help from the team, assuming bro doesn’t have god aim

fiery aspen
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He would be amazing against the thing if you're smart enough to dodge his slam

fast niche
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A great hulk can put a lot of pressure on ultron

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I am not good enough to consistently air grab people aside from iron man 😔

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Iron man is just easy, prob because he got no mobility

fiery aspen
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he has mobility but not reactively

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takes a sec to start flying fast ans he can't attack while doing it unless you count missile

fast niche
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Yo someone people are saying Jeff change is a buff 😭 😭 😭 😭

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Crazy take

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Trying to justify it with winrate and whatnot

fiery aspen
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He's probably better in low elo qm and bronze when there's not much damage being dealt for him to heal

fiery aspen
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HE HAS TWO AND ONE IS A RECOLOUR SHUT UP

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"ranking ultron's skin and default appearance in marvel rivals"

hidden spindle
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Lmfao 💀

fiery aspen
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@hidden spindle

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Jeff skin

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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im a proud incognito dolphin jeff owner

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(finally spent my costume token)

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fiery aspen
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im chasing you down

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hes mid but not terrible, pretty fun to play in quick match

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he plays like season 0 rocket with more utility

hidden spindle
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Damn C++ compiler crashing

fiery aspen
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you nerded too close to the sun

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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there's no escape

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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arch linux calls to you

hidden spindle
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I just fixed screen tearing issues on OBS 😭

fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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it is

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good luck soldier

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fast niche
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Lots of idiots in marvel rival seem to like this idea 😭

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Literally no difference then looking at damage blocked, as well as the fact that it doesn’t prove anything, if they are dying more then others on their team, then it’s definitely a their problem with bad positioning

fiery aspen
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that sounds like "who can stand in front of the enemies best"

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jeff stole the thing's phone this is amazing

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
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im so happy

fiery aspen
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live footage of me

fiery aspen
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so glad theey brought it back

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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not anymore :3

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fiery aspen
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omg i was on vanguard and not the weak link for oncee (groot for a while until they went wolv)

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i also got a 4 kill, 3 final groot ult which was so fun

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pulled out support ults another tjme

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our iron fist had a chronic case of qm lord who can't play
props to rocket for initially being cap and switching to like 3 supports trying to save the game 😭
opposite of props to mag who locked in as our third tank and refused to switch

fast niche
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Pro

fast niche
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Is celes possible this season

fiery aspen
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idk

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at our recent ranked games, no

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but maybe lol

fast niche
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Amazing skin 🔥

fast niche
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half a battle pass for pink vemon and a costum coin 😭

fiery aspen
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I'm probably just grabbing the free Jeff's kicks and leaving the rest

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at least mag and storm were both really good in the combat chest, and you get jeff emotes

fiery aspen
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why is the paid path so garbage omg??

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the free is amazing tho

fast niche
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It is garbage 😭 😭

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How do I get Jeff’s kick

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I didn’t see it upon joining

fiery aspen
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that's why the free path is amazing

fast niche
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Oh W

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We haven’t gotten on rival in so long

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😭

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At least gotten on rival rank grind in so long

fiery aspen
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true 😭

fast niche
fiery aspen
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I'll try but I think it might have to be after my exam

fast niche
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Yea that make sense

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Mine ends at wedensday, so on Wednesday let’s do rival if you can make it 😎

fiery aspen
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I think so

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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😔

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fiery aspen
hidden spindle
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Might need to force it to use proton

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fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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oh god

fiery aspen
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phoenix mk skin looks incredible omg

fiery aspen
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what was my team DOING

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jeff was there the full match

fiery aspen
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lord jeff (i was luna with 38% accuracy and then invis)

fast niche
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all dps match

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someone left at the end 😔

fiery aspen
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practice vs ai gets wild

hidden spindle
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LMAO ??

fiery aspen
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5 tanks 1 rocket..

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I've never actually seen it

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the funniest part is that you guys are getting rolled (makes sense since you don't have any heavy dps, you can't burst down a tank with those)

hidden spindle
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😭

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until we didnt

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amd 2 of them went dps

fiery aspen
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😭

hidden spindle
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and then after that we lost a game where we spent 4 mins on the last 10 meters

fiery aspen
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LMAO

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been there

hidden spindle
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i shiut you not

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it went so well

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then we fucking fell apart

fiery aspen
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usually because the enemies use their brain cell and swap to a comp that counters you

fiery aspen
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usually you gotta swap too

fiery aspen
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nah never you

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jeff is a beast

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unless you're fighting bp

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then Jeff is not the best pick

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I popped off on Jeff the other day, he's actually so good if you play him well

hidden spindle
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hes the only character im good at (im never able to heal because a unicorn is more common than me hitting my shots)

fiery aspen
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The bubbles bonus healing from all sources is extremely strong, and he has pretty good healing unless your team doesn't know what cover is

fiery aspen
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these ones are actually more useful, you just need to know what you're doing

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a bubbled target getting constantly hit by the splash has higher healing per second than luna with a snowflakr

hidden spindle
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it was the only to heal myself

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
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unless you mean they buffed the heal

fiery aspen
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idk why he feels so much stronger now? I don't see how unless they didnt

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no like, the healing bonus from all sources when a target has been bubbled

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his primary healing actually got nerfed to compensate for that being added I thought??

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fiery aspen
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the humble moon knight or phoenix:

fiery aspen
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He's quite a strong backline healer now though, although youll need to swap him to invis or something if you're getting outdamaged

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I wish the groot teamup gave Jeff passive healing, it might actually be good then

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Or a shared health pool

hidden spindle
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at least the sprays actually do damage now

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(exactly how i thought they worked for the first 10 hours of my jeff gameplay)

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(btw did i mention i have 50 hrs on this game)

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(45hrs are jeff)

fiery aspen
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Although

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It's extremely fun to punish low health supports that don't know what cover is

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fiery aspen
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LOL

hidden spindle
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foxhole is kinda wack

fiery aspen
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he's easy to punish as a hitscan

hidden spindle
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they where indeed, watching the minecraft movie'

hidden spindle
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so the chance is

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sq(headshot)

fiery aspen
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As often groot or the thing, Jeff is the worst support to lock down tho

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He's so annoying to finish off

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fiery aspen
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iron man I hate

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As an invis main I am equally countered by him

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Although as the thing

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He's basically cannon fodder

hidden spindle
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also once a spider man was bullying us so i said in chat "I get why J.J.Johnson hates you spider man"

hidden spindle
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also wolverine

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too many times have i had my ribcage opened by him

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fiery aspen
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fiery aspen
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I am d1 wolv hater

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
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fuck

hidden spindle
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why was that the top

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ahem

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(emoji looked mean :( )

fiery aspen
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OHH

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HE ULTED YOU??

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that is not a fantastic play

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if it was the normal attack then it is

hidden spindle
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like

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the normal lazer

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laser

fiery aspen
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ahh yeah

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tbh if you got stuck within that range of an iron man you sort of deserved it 💀 but also your cap absolutely threw there

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he should've handled that

fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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playing ranked and our gold lord mag has landed every single ult on every single opposing c&d ult

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It's wild

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quite possibly the greatest damage output diff of all time

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jeff was lord spidey 💀

fiery aspen
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i- how

fiery aspen
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actually i take it back

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she played amazing, just was the wrong comp for her and i was covering a lot of the healing

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kept me alive against their spiderman more than an invis has any right to do lol

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our dps (except spiderman, funnily enough) was real toxic though. like please stop using your ult 1v6 behind a wall in their backline and getting melted, then blaming heals and mocking us for any less than perfect ult usage (like one time the invis got killed mid animation. you cannot predict that 😭)

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i hate being back in gold let me OUT

hidden spindle
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But also like how was I supposed to know he would pop from a corner like that

fiery aspen
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omg i cooked

fiery aspen
hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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also we had one healer tbh (Adam was an instalock and refused to switch)

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hidden spindle
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solo healing until the last minute

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we almost lost 3 times

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i was ace for 90% until my friend got a bunch of kills by using ult on the cart

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the game was so cooked

fiery aspen
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hawkeye had to be a substitute right

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only reason you won is because their comp was somehow worse tbh

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tell me what he would be replacing

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rocket swapped between tank and dps for so long

fiery aspen
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No I mean like someone left and someone new joined

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nvm not with that many deaths

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fiery aspen
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that damage and accuracy means he just wasn't shooting for most of it

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rocket didnt help much either

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it was almost so cooked

fiery aspen
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oh yeah, barely switched on rocket it looks like

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seems they were trying to tank before but in this comp that's not helping

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after which they schizphrenically changed between dps and tank until 1 and a hlf mins left

fiery aspen
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and- and they still have 5k damage??

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yes

fiery aspen
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i remember a friend going "DUDE WHERE ARE THE HEALERS" to which i responded "you mean healer"

fiery aspen
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I thought they were like a mag or emma that could barely get around the corner without dying

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fiery aspen
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and they should be smart enough to see what's wrong

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also the mk was hela for most of the game

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until we had to lock in so hard a bank would look unsecure

fiery aspen
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your friend had basic competence

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fiery aspen
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hela.. into a groot and psylocke...

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(acc i cant remember if it was hela or pheonix)

fiery aspen
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I don't really know how you did it

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phoenix would almost be worse 💀

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and i had a few good ults iirc

fiery aspen
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I'd blame ultron since whenverr I have one on my team we lose because they pump out about 17 heals across the whole gane

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yes ultron can be good in the right comp but anything with a solo tank or the thing is the wrong comp

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how it feels to lock in and win, then miserably lose the next game

fiery aspen
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4 dps 1 tank 1 heal comp

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is

fiery aspen
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it's workable against 1 star bots and that's about it

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fiery aspen
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how did we win tbh

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i was emma for most of it, swapped with their c&d

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holy shit 😭

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HOW LONG WAS I AFK FOR 😭

fiery aspen
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Loading screens and menus is like half the game

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It's the same for me

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100 pts away from lord jeff

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now i can look like i have skill

fiery aspen
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god jeff player (not chef autocorrect 😭)

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I'm going to take the Swedish translation saying I'm good, not god

fiery aspen
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someone played rivals with the fantastic four cast and showed them the malice skin 😭

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pure rage

fiery aspen
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happens all the time

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ill prolly get it this game ytho

fiery aspen
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just go for the ults and you've got a good chance

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otherwise maybe 2 games for time played

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1 KILL, OR 1 SWALLOW, OR 2 MINUTEs

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IM GONNA FUCKING CRASH OUT

fiery aspen
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LMAOOOO

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THIS GAME

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I HATE MY LIFE

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THE 6TH AS WELL

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WHY

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Guys you think this is enough for lord ?

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YEAHHHHH

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lord of jeffs

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teach me your ways

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spider man and bp where on my ass 24/7 eating me like sushi

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fiery aspen
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why are your colours so close

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spray your friends and enemies ig

fiery aspen
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I could never

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cant change it now or i need to change the ini file of the game

fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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and i have a whole side quest 😔

fiery aspen
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oh

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why can't you change teh file

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because it crashes

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i had to edit some configs to make it work

fiery aspen
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oh wild

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guys linux is worth i swear

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all for the pipeline

fiery aspen
fiery aspen
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make sure to inlcude skins

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@fiery aspen i made it

fiery aspen
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PEAK

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fiery aspen
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😭

fiery aspen
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still cis tho

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2 stars on luna is wild too

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adam and c&d are 3 😭

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invis and loki are 4, reasonable tbh

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jeff and freaking MANTIS are 1 😭

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rocket is 1, reasonable

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ultron is 2

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my game immediately outright crashed 💀

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fiery aspen
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i- what?? 😭 i mean it doesnt matter but how the hell

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i quite literally did better in every way

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thats not very fantastic

fiery aspen
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they must weight the torch + thing teamup super high for some reason

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😭

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no way its the quad right ?

fiery aspen
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It shouldn't

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Usually a 6 final hit difference will get you mvp even if you absolutely sucked in every other stat

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has to be secret

fiery aspen
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fr 💔

fiery aspen
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3 way most assists lol

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fiery aspen
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landed most of my freezes against their cap/venom/hulk

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i did not cook on ults admittedly

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rip :(

fiery aspen
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still got the most healing on our team by a lot

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their team slightly outhealed me bc they only had 2 supports

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we had 3 most of the game

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i was NOT letting adam and mantis heal alone while i played tank

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the match before we were 4 dps and i was jeff, outdamaged 2 of our dps

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smartest qm party

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i got more final hits than namor

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and 1k less damage

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HE HAD THE HULK TEAMUP AT THE END

fiery aspen
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save me from this hell

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let me OUT

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fiery aspen
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oh boy I sure do love having hulk on my head while rocket is halfway across the freaking map, alone, healing only himself

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fiery aspen
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Me too

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But I've been learning invis and luna and neither can self heal a hulk away

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C&D can't even really outheal a good hulk

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Your team comp fucks over hulk so bad 💀

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Tho that’s just the team comp 😔

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Doesn’t matter if the person playing the hero suck

fiery aspen
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Mag was amazing, he played really well

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The rest 💀

fiery aspen
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phoenix on invis was also pretty good but i understand the switch, she was getting destroyed by hulk even with my help

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Had good aim but zero positioning or game sense

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As a dps

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Had I played hulk into that team comp with compentent enemy

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I would’ve have to switch after the first death 💀 💀

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Oh wait do gamma team up still exist?

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If it does then hulk is a decent play here just simply for the team up, just gotta play way more passively, tho it sounds like their hulk can walk into your back line without worrying about dps 😭

fiery aspen
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this team did not know what a second tank is

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Well punisher did a bit but just swapped off

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He was playing the thing by diving around a corner into their team and was then surprised when there was nothing we could do to keep him alive

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Shit bro playing thing like bp 💀

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Man I’ll be so rusty when I come back to rival, tho I don’t even think I really got time to play this season

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Might have to wait for season four then climb all the way up again

fiery aspen
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I'm gonna try and hit plat for 3.5 then lock in before 4

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That's one game if I win my next match lol

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Plat 😭

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If you got time to play this season then aim for gm at least

fiery aspen
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my friend

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there is a day and a few hours left

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tomorrow is the last full day

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I am gold 1

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😭

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To be clear I mean plat BEFORE 3.5 starts

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gonna go for gm for during 3.5

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Ah I see

fast niche
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Did you hit plat then 👀

fiery aspen
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Had a couple bad matches then 4 great matches then another bad match so I gave up

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But that landed me in plat 3

fast niche
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How long is season 3.5

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idk a month maybe

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I haven't checked

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Yea if it’s a month then I got no chance to climb to celes, maybe gm if I tried but I’d most likely be playing other game

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Just gonna wait till season four, where I’ll be like silver >:)

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I will probably try to get gm but blade scares me as a support main

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He will mean people need to play smarter and I'm in plat so that's not happening

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What’s blades kit

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Wait blade is Melee right

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I think I know who I’ll be trying next 😎

fiery aspen
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What the fuck

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Antiheal???

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Alr bro sounds like I need to learn him, gotta be able to play the busted hero to ensure at least one isn’t banned 😎

fiery aspen
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I think that's just on his ult but

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That means he can counter a support ult

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Oh just the ult

fiery aspen
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I think just the 40%

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Pretty sure he's got weaker antiheal on other attacks

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Haven't played him tho

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Sounds like a tank buster

fiery aspen
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He's super broken

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Intentional meta breaker

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Good to know two tank buster…. Double the chance of ruining the enemy tank experience

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I’ll have to check it out once am back

fiery aspen
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Ay man I am a Loki main tho 😔

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But as a Loki main, I am never going back to Loki

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The support experience is just too shit

fiery aspen
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I've descended back to a c&d main for ranked

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Had some crazy games on invis though

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Once I got a double kill on both enemy supports with a bubble into a pull 💀 idk how

fast niche
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What the fuck

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Nah ngl you should try Loki, legit it is all game sense

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Have you tried him yet

fiery aspen
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Nah I don't really like playing him

fast niche
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😔

fiery aspen
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I know he's broken but he just feels sort of sluggish and unresponsive

fast niche
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Oh yea I get what you mean

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That’s just the learning phase, after getting used to him he’d be very mobile

fiery aspen
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True, I just don't know if it's worth it to me

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With certain annoying interaction here and there

fiery aspen
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I already play all but 4? supports 😭

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Adam mantis loki ultron

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I might pick up mantis for the new teamup, it's wild

fast niche
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Broo 😭

fiery aspen
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do you get how insanely broken it is to buff both groot and loki

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like that's wild

fast niche
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Oh also

fiery aspen
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and it give groot freaking self heal

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With Loki, you fuck over dive

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So badly

fiery aspen
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True

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I do on c&d or rocket as well though

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Or luna if I'm playing really well

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or invis if my other healer is any good

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or Jeff if it's not bp 💀

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Jeff's match up with bp is not favourable

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C&d is pretty similar to countering dive like Loki

fiery aspen
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not against dive tanks

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he can absolutely shred dive tanks

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that minigun is no joke against a venom

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Oh true

fiery aspen
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Or thing or thor

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Although he does need support from the other healer for that

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I find he can kill magik pretty easily too

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Psy or bp or spiderman he's not killing them though

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If your going to learn yet another support, I urge you to play Loki

fiery aspen
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same idea but a bit less overpowered but a bit better against spiderman

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The best support into brawl comp

fiery aspen
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Jeff is fun and actually quite strong but I can't justify playing him in ranked unless we have a storm or venom

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Even Jeff into venom is throwing 😔

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I will only acccept a Jeff onto my team if we have a storm, it’s just that unfortunate

fiery aspen
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into bp or mk or psy, then sure Jeff is throwing

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he's great when you can heal both tanks and maybe a flyer with him though

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Works amazing with ultron

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Ultron Jeff 😭 😭 😭

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Forfeit atp 😔

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Zero support ult

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Jeff main issue I got with him is that he has zero support ult, and if you include a second healer without support ult it’s just gg, no way you win unless enemy team is clearly shitter then your team

fiery aspen
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That would be suicide

fiery aspen
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(And it’s one of the worse support to play alongside Loki, this mental repulsion is ingrained in my mind)

fiery aspen
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I do think a jeff ult rework would be so nice though

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His is hilarious but it's not very good outside of storm, which is when it's not even his ult anymore

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People would whine so much if he just got another healbot ult though

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And that is a fact sadly 😭

fiery aspen
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😭

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Look I still said I can't justify playing him in ranked but he's still a good support

fast niche
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True

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Better then mantis

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And Adam

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Two worse support ingame

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Had to get team up with the best two support ingame to get any relevance

fiery aspen
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both are actually quite a lot better this season

fast niche
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Did they get buffed

fiery aspen
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they got teamups with real supports and buffs to their ults

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Oh nice

fiery aspen
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luna + adam and manti + loki + groot

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Adam's ult is still problematic but at least you're less likely to get wiped after respawing

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get percentage shield health or something

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then mantis just got buffed across the board except for decreased ammo iirc

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her healing dropped but i think my friend said the anchor bonus covers it

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OH

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and mantis does percentage heal now

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hugest buff for her ever

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Huh ok

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Great to know it can heal banner well

fiery aspen
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I'm excited to see mantis

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Actually be okay

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I'm also excited to see the Adam teamup with luna because it's worse than the iron fist + luna but at least it's still self sustain

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Mantis and Loki is still among the worse support combo in my experience

fiery aspen
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I feel like mantis + loki + ultron would be pretty broken

fast niche
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You need another high burst healing hero alongside Loki

fiery aspen
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if the mantis and ultron are coordinated I feel like they could accomplish that

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they both have slight burst and then heavy sustain

fast niche
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True

fiery aspen
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The loki would definitely need to have the main burst but you can go two tanks since all supports have such high damage, then you can heal both at once

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me and a friend spent ages brainstorming a comp built around that lol

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Triple support comp?

fiery aspen
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I think it was groot, hulk/mag depending on enemy comp, bucky, ultron, mantis, loki

fiery aspen
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the thing with these supports is they all hit so hard you'd have no trouble keeping up damage like triple support comps usually do

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They all also have fairly fast support ults

fast niche
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True

fiery aspen
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Overall especially if you go hulk it'd be such an absurdly hard pushing comp

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You'd need so much heals and really smart tanks to survive it, or you'd need so much damage you can kill them before they get to use it

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It'd need to be played smart but it'd be so strong

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I think

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I always feel like hulk and groot is counterproductive combo

fiery aspen
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nah only if they're uncoordinated

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Groot you’d want to wall of enemy, removing los into enemy back line, and hulk you’d want to go into their back line and take attention, tho that’s depending on enemy comp

fiery aspen
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You could go with another tank but we found issues with most of them except magneto, who's just sort of okay

fast niche
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True

fiery aspen
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magneto might be one of the most balanced units in the game

fast niche
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Actually true

fiery aspen
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I wish he felt more responsive to play

fast niche
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Been so consistent yet not op since release

fiery aspen
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Yeah

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And he's actually super strong if you master him but that's so hard to do

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Like a bad strange is way better than a bad mag, but a crazy mag is going to be more useful than a crazy strange any day

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Yo imagine a comp where every hero summons stuff, like Loki and namor, and in this situation the enemy is forced to take attention off the fight and destroy the summon every few seconds or be fucked

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Like Loki, rocket, mk, namor, peni, hulk, smth like this

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What other summon hero is there

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You have to destroy mk anuk every single time, have to destroy peni nest every single time to progress, have to destroy rocket revive, and have to destroy gamma squid and other squids

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Loki can play offensive clones, creating a 250 hp meat shield here and there

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Then hulk just goes in for addition distraction 😭

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Pure evil incarceration

fiery aspen
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if you're tossing rocket revives into the enemy team that's kinda dumb tho

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Yea that’d be hidden away, but dives if they have any might be distracted destroying them

fiery aspen
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with mk and namor for sure, but peni you want to hide nests

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True

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Peni with the teamup already makes dives look like bronze players

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if you just stand in the nest

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While being terrorized

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Like you ban phoenix and punisher, shits gg

fiery aspen
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True

fast niche
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If only there was a six man squad we can be in to actually play all these ideas 😔

fiery aspen
#

true

fast niche
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New comp, Loki rocket mk namor peni groot

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Lose gamma squid but have massive meat shields that damage nearby enemy if not destroyed

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Loki got nerfed so hard 😭 😭 😭

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Damage 30>25, originally you’d do 90 dmg to enemy, meaning 270 dmg with three hits to kill squishy. Now you do 75 dmg to enemy, meaning only a mere 225 dmg, your no longer killing shit with Loki 😭 😭

fiery aspen
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what a shame 💀

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It would’ve taken around 3.5 second to kill a squichy, which is pretty decent, not insane but can take them out by surprise

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Now it’s 5.25 seconds 💀

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Yea no enemy is not getting healed within 5.25 seconds

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Just counting out 5 seconds in your mind take forever, 3 second is viable but 5 is not 😭

fiery aspen
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dw you got the damage rune if there's a mantis

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he's still broken

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I still don’t know what’s damage rune lol

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But this change lowkey gutted Loki

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Was the best due to survivability, healing, and damage, now that damage is gutted by 20%, I don’t think he’s the best anymore

fiery aspen
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it's insane

fiery aspen
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Yea top 3 😔

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Top 3 out of what, 5 viable healers? 😭

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Still good for healing but, if I play him it will be so much harder to kill anybody

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Ngl the nerf is deserved, 3 second KO time on a no aim strategies that already pump the second highest healing output does sound a little broken💀

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But I will not accept it

fiery aspen
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😔

fiery aspen
fast niche
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Lots of healer got super low base healing output in exchange for certain utiles, pair two of them up and it’s gg for you if the enemy run a high damage comp
Like mantis, ultron, c&d, and jeff

Tho this would only really apply higher up in rank, anything below and quick play doesn’t matter

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Massive weakness that require a second high healing output hero to patch up

fiery aspen
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nah c&d works as a primary healer unless you're stupid

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although solo tank really hurts them

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ultron is the single most throw pick ive ever seen

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fiery aspen
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rocket is so situational to be good

fast niche
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Nah nvm rocket is fine

fiery aspen
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he goes from genuinely #1 pick to throw pick depending on your comp and enemy damage output

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jeff is not a throw pick anymore but his ult does suck

fast niche
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Jeff? The bubble change really hurt Jeff’s healing output

fiery aspen
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mantis definitely struggles against high dps but I've found mantis + loki + groot comps to be really effective lately

fast niche
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Like any lower healing output hero would work as long as you got a main healer

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# fiery aspen nah c&d works as a primary healer unless you're stupid

c&d Imo I would still consider a lower output healer, tho the closest to primary healer
To me it seem like c&d is very similar to old rocket, where their heal amount is very inflated due to patching up the little-medium missing health instead of having the heals to fully save someone without another healers help. The ability give C&D the needed burst heals, but like it’d go on cooldown often so it’s not always there unlike other primary healers

warm fjordBOT
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i agree

fiery aspen
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eh, it does have the cooldown but they burst out WAY more healing with the cooldowns than other primary healers can

warm fjordBOT
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i agree

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If you use the ability often, it will not be there when it’s needed. When you save them, you’d very much relying on your other teammates to pump out heals on small dmg bursts

fiery aspen
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like an invis is more consistent but if you just need to keep someone alive c&d is way better

fiery aspen
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I will clarify

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Your average lord c&d is not a primary healer

fast niche
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Mmm

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Yea I could probably see that

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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loki is definitely the second most mvp farming support

hidden spindle
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genuinly we started praying on his downfall for funnies

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(downfall as in, not getting MVP)

fiery aspen
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as a non loki support player, understandable

fast niche
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Nuh uh, jeff is the second most mvp farming support

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Wait no

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Jeff is the most svp farming support 🔥 🔥 🔥

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No mvp

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Seen so much jeff players, not healing the team, get a couple picks with his ult and survive by himself while his team dies, then end the game as svp 😭

fiery aspen
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not unless your team actually sucks

fast niche
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No mvp, only svp

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So much svp Jeff’s I seen

fiery aspen
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he does get svp sometimes when the match up is so bad that the only kills your team really ever gets is from the ult

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I do see mvp Jeff, just not super often

fast niche
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You know the team sucks when jeff gets mvp 😔

fiery aspen
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or the jeff just doesn't suck

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which I will admit, is rare

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
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SOBVBING????

hidden spindle
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Smh

fiery aspen
#

they all went dps and peni so I morally had to go rocket but I also had quests to get critical hits and killstreaks

hidden spindle
fiery aspen
#

@hidden spindle Jeff ult buff and I literally called it yesterday when I was talking to a friend about what buffs we'd like to see to different ults, I suggested exactly what it is lol

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Its actually huge

fast niche
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NOOO ANOTHER LOKI NERF

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This one is so uncalled for

#

Last one already hurt Loki by so much

fiery aspen
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yeah this loki nerf feels bad to me

#

just about every other change is great in this patch but loki is weird

fiery aspen
#

worth it

#

cant believe its not legendary

fiery aspen
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this MIGHT just be the ugliest skin in the game

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this is amazing tho