#Diverse NPC's

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willow agate
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Yes but so in the post and my answer is meant with NPC's over all, not only wife and son

shrewd ember
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But that's unrealistic, isn't it? If you give your wife presents from time to time and she gives little presents to you, it is a nice thing. But why should you wish to give a present to some Dagobert or Roberta, who are just a farmer and a hunter (just examples) living in the same village? In Reality you don't make presents to people you hardly know, do you?

wide kiln
# shrewd ember But that's unrealistic, isn't it? If you give your wife presents from time to ti...

they aren't just a farmer and hunter though, in the early game they choose to join your settlement and maybe they are even your first villager, this would of course lead to a few conversations and getting to know each other, and either way this is meant as more of a way to boost villagers moods and their work speed! I imagine that people knew each other well when they live and work so close to each other in a community:)

cunning dawn
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For all that mather, them all are the same as the player.

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No rank at all.

graceful robin
sick geyser
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I’d love or be able to give more mundane gifts to people. Like how Racimir’s wife gives him food and drink occasionally, I’d like to be able to give people little treats with a reward scaling to their value.

ember marsh
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This has a strong SV and Portia vibe, sounds immersion breaking so no.

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And frankly I'm tired of this game mechanic running around giving gifts to ppl with my inventory full, trying to remember where they are so I can reach them on time and all that hassle. Could really use a break from that stuff. This game has a different vibe and a different grind, not sure this would work. Besides gifting wasn't even a thing back then.

ivory junco
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Thats just a terrible take lol

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"More diverse NPC's, different body types, different personalities, job preferences" - Immersion breaking? What have you been smoking 💀

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Giving gifts has been a thing since ancient egypt so idk where you got that weird take from

ember marsh
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Early middle ages are not the same as ancient Egypt

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Also, please don't get personal

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I don't do drugs

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What OP is suggesting is exactly that SV/Portia stuff that has become so repetitive and boring tbh

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Even if it was for diversity, how much more can you do? They're early medieval peasants

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This is not a Skyrim level game

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Like it's not that big

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Medieval peasants, enough said

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Now if they bring in a special NPC, I'd expect some work put in

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Like some main character that is, like an antagonist or something

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Otherwise it doesn't matter

sick geyser
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Not everybody has your experiences with video games and your take on what is boring or repetitive is purely subjective.

If we can all understand that it keeps us from arguing over preferences, which is pointless and usually ends up being combative and personal 👍

ember marsh
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Believe me it gets boring after a few runs

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Nothing subjective here, talking from experience

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Feels like a chore

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Almost every rpg style game has that heart/friendship level mechanic

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I think someone else has made this exact point

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This doesn't fit in this game, ergo immersion breaking

sick geyser
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It’s fine if you think so. I’m not weighing in on that. But saying something “feels like” something is purely subjective, not an objective statement of fact.

It just really sounds like you and the OP have different things you value in games. And you’re not going to argue each other into having different values so 🤷‍♂️

ember marsh
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I wasn't arguing with OP, it was Snizzy who started it and turned it into an argument

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OP isn't even here

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Feels like a chore is a phrase

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Not literally feels like

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It becomes a chore

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So yeah it is an objective fact not my opinion

sick geyser
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My mistake. Point stands though.

The entire game is literally about doing chores lol. A lot of us enjoy it for that exact reason

ember marsh
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Not these kind of chores

sick geyser
ember marsh
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This is not Stardew Valley or My Time at Portia and it would be really great if ppl understood that

sick geyser
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Ok thumbsup

ember marsh
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Great, thanks

wide kiln
# ember marsh This is not Stardew Valley or My Time at Portia and it would be really great if ...

It's a suggestion to make the game feel more alive really, I'm not trying to compare it or suggest it be made similar to any other games. This is simply a suggestion that I primarily made for the developers so they could look at the idea and consider whether it would fit into their game or not. I understand a lot of people want the game to stay as it is, but I have played this game for a long time and personally miss the bonding you could have made with the npcs. It is currently just a random name, working at a random place, living in a random house. Adding more personality would help make it feel more realistic, as a community like this would have been close-knitted and you would have known the names and faces of the people living next-door to you. We are all entitled to our own opinion so I appreciate your insight as well!:)

ember marsh
wide kiln
ember marsh
ivory junco
# ember marsh Also, please don't get personal

You're right, I did come of as rude and for that I apologise. I still however think that adding diversity to the NPC's is not a bad idea because atm the NPCs feel very bland to me (and I think to other people as well). There is a lot left to be desired imo as I see my villagers only as workers.

ember marsh
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Okay, fair enough. All good! happy pray

ivory junco
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Though giving gifts was still a practice in the medieval ages, birthdays were quite important and especially at weddings people would offer gifts, even lifestock to the newly weds.

ember marsh
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I did think of it as well as to not make it like SV/Portia as to how they could go about applying this mechanic

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Just for fun you know approaching it as a problem

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Here's something I came up with

ivory junco
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Yeah I mean I agree the way gifts work now is very annoying, especially for reaching that "Happy Wife, Happy Life: achievement. Would be cool if there were travelling merchants that would pass by your market stalls and offer exotic merchandise or something like that

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Because I agree having to run to Hornica for a single bracelet is a pain in the *ss

ember marsh
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Challenge here is that since there's a huge amount of NPCs in all the villages, the could realistically do it for the residents of just our village

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And apply it there, so this special kind of personalized gift giving ritual works for our village family

wide kiln
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That's what I thought of as well!

ember marsh
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Also, since we're like their leader of sorts we could also grant them certain favors (maybe reward them with coin, food, etc. for good work or on certain occasions/festivities) that would make them happier and bring us closer like a tribe

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Like going the extra mile to keep your people happy

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Could also positively affect their mood especially in times of distress (say they implement natural disasters in the future and the village is doing badly)

wide kiln
ember marsh
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Especially with regards to how they could not do it like SV/Portia but still implement the core idea differently

ivory junco
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I never played SV or Portia so how do they actually do it? 😂

wide kiln
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I understand! I definitely thought more about gift giving with the people in your own village! As they also feel a bit like random npcs you might as well not even remember the name of, so it could just be a way to feel more connected to them

ember marsh
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I mean the Lords or Jarls or whoever did share things with their subjects like on feast days

ember marsh
wide kiln
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exactly!

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hence why i also thought them having preferences would be nice, so that gifts can be more personal and you can have more information to remember a villager by

ember marsh
# ivory junco I never played SV or Portia so how do they actually do it? 😂

It's a pain in the bu** man you have to remember their schedule (weekly/daily) and things they like and make sure to get there on time and keep doing it until you reach 10 heart level which was like a max I think but you HAVE to do it because certain quests, recipes are only unlocked then and there's no way around it

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You have to do it for all of them (about 30-40) NPCs to get all the achievements

wide kiln
ember marsh
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So your schedule is already quite hectic cuz you're an up and coming farmer/craftsman and then you have to entertain basically curry favour with the entire village because you're the new guy and unless you do there's no way to progress in the game

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Days are pretty quick like 7-8 minute irl and you pass out at 2 am wherever you are if you don't make it back in time, no 24 hour days like MD where you can do anything you want and sleep once per season

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Yeah you get the point

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Thanks for understanding

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Sorry if I came across as a d***

wide kiln
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absolutely! I think it was just a bit of miscommunication, because I definitely don't think bonding with your villagers should feel like a chore but more like a choice if you would like to:)

ember marsh
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Yeah exactly my point

wide kiln
# ember marsh Sorry if I came across as a d***

you didn't really! As far as I've understood the community here there are some people who are a little more careful as to add too many new things, as the game is pretty good already, but I do think conversations like these can help guide the game towards a direction which will suit everybody's needs:)

ember marsh
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Sure thing, really appreciate the candid conversation

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Cheers!

wide kiln
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likewise! 😁

ember marsh
shrewd ember
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The idea of giving a present to the pair who are marrying or for the birth of the first child I like. But not giving presents to all of them each season.

vernal finch
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The way I thought of it, You cut down a tree and it falls on an NPCs house. They vacate because the house is damaged and start taking a mood hit for being homeless. You can then fix their house and give them a pie as a gift and it gives a small mood bump. Maybe only a couple points.

tawny wadi
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Please, there should be people of other colors, after all I'm white and I love a dark-skinned woman, right?
It's a shame that I married one and it even looks like a somewhat racist or prejudiced game and it could improve the animation of collecting with a pickaxe, it should be used with both hands, more shades of white ppl, and more face diversity

thin swift
cunning dawn
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As most times "results of players demands"

tawny wadi
fair temple
thin swift
clever granite
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I'd just like to see more NPCs walking around the world, traveling, or visiting villages. I don't care much for the gift giving thing, but I'd love to see NPCs really exploring the world and whatnot.

fair temple
clever granite
quick sigil
void goblet
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More variation of skin, hair, eye color of NPCs & especially in character creation would be awesome.