#🗣️┃chill-chat

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obtuse mica
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i like it

icy rapids
sullen kiln
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With the help of Suno (I uploaded stems and samples I made years ago) I FINALLY completed my latest album.
https://geezah.bandcamp.com/album/folding-space
It streams everywhere in Oct but I'm releasing it early on Bandcamp.
DnB, Dark Core, Liquid, Dubcore music for you. I hope you enjoy it. and thanks in advance for your support.

Geezah
Folding Space, by Geezah

17 track album

thorny narwhal
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you got that on spotify? need to check as you are kicking out one great song after the other 🙂 nevermind, found the album (and you) and following you 😄

lyric ermine
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I uploaded my songs to SoundCloud. Done making songs for the day.

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rare gladeBOT
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vale lake
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Yes, the new album is a lot of my personal favs, whereas the last was Suno's favs

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The one coming next month I'm particularly proud of / excited for

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has a lot of my most recent stuff like burning

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and is the most thematically coherent

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man ,I cannot get anything to generate lol

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everything is failing

thorny narwhal
vale lake
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and there's one that's pure instrumental, mostly classical

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but I still think post-music revival stands up

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despite being very unpolished

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and having a couple that I think weren't good enough

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but there are some highlights people still listen to

thorny narwhal
vale lake
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so a lot of the prompts are like knife's edge, where it fluctuates between extreme screaming and soft

vale lake
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its my least popular, but I suspect it's up your overall alley

thorny narwhal
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what cracked me up the most, people who like yolkhead also like ... boards of canada 😄

vale lake
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I think the old way is to sell yourself as the primary product

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but like, i really don't care, and also I'd have to compromise my personal belief in pushing people's buttons 😆

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most of the art i enjoy really pissed me off at some point in my life

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anywho, all my songs are gone haha

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soooo that's a bug

thorny narwhal
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pushing buttons is nice, sometimes 😄 i dont think someone like taylor swift is norm these days, but a billion mostly unknown people who create great music and most people who listen to it will never know a single thing about them as people or care about them, so i get what you are saying

nova basin
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Vote Dolly Parton for Empress of Earth 2024

hexed stream
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@jade jay

jade jay
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Daeg

hexed stream
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ye watch ur language

jade jay
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💀

vale lake
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bc I am obsessed with that one today

vale lake
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Or sterile rather

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at least in the immediate future

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but also, I mean, that's the world I want to live in

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Or rather, one where there's room for success for both groups

crude drum
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Does anyone know where I can buy lyrics? cheaply preferably. I suck at writing them and AI sucks too unfortunately.

vale lake
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humans who don't want to act, and those who enjoy performance art

vale lake
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one way I know people have used succesfully is telling it to write a poem in a "constructed language"

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it will make gibberish

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then ask another AI to translate it in the style of "X"

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whatever style you want

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this will improve output

crude drum
vale lake
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as it is sort of "farther" away from the areas safety training focused on

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so it is less stereotyped

crude drum
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Oh yess that is the worst part its like the Ai all read the same lyrics writing book and just followed the instructions to a T xD

umbral wadi
# crude drum Does anyone know where I can buy lyrics? cheaply preferably. I suck at writing t...

Why not raid the Public Domain?

This is a good site to see what is in the public domain now. Then you can either google for the name of the song plus PDF songsheet until you find one: https://www.pdinfo.com

You can find a lot of those at sites like these: https://repository.duke.edu/dc/hasm

Just look around until you see some lyrics that you can translate into your style. You may need to update the language in places naturally. Not many people say things like 'honeybunches' these days. And no, gay doesn't refer to LGBTQ back then otherwise our great-grandparents were up to a lot more than we ever knew...

Just make sure you keep the songsheets so you have proof of publication. You need that date to prove that the lyrics are in the Public Domain.

crude drum
upper apex
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Idk how well this will go over but…Brodie trying to buy lyrics, You wanna cash app me, I’ll literally HELP you write your songs🎧 I mean if you really want to help a guy out. HMU 🤙 🙃 ideally making the song as close to perfect tailored to the style you’re looking for. 🫶

lyric ermine
lyric ermine
upper apex
grim idol
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General prompting advice: If you ask ChatGPT for a joke, you probably get the same 10 jokes over and over. Maybe not literally just 10, but they will be repetitive. If you copy and paste a random paragraph from a book into chat, and then ask for a joke, you'll get a lot more variety. (This is probably not the ideal way to get more variety, but it's fun as an example a very simply thing that still helps.) OpenAI has made this tendency a little bit better recently but the general concept is still pretty useful especially for creative stuff like lyrics. Basically don't just ask a question, make your prompt stand out.

glad finch
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I recently got a new phone and I've been trying to get a specifically white phone case for it, but alas its been very difficult to find anything decent. I've also been trying to get enough real estate on the back for a somewhat large sticker, so rings and other intricate designs aren't ideal. Why are phone cases so damn limited, I don't need no ring

slender fern
grim idol
grim idol
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These are actually somewhat cherry picked for better singers, actually, but it's the clip I had handy

grim idol
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Nah, not the same guy, but still a bit uncanny of a resemblance @obsidian hare 🤔

cloud fractal
grim idol
# cloud fractal Another competitor joins the fight https://github.com/ivcylc/qa-mdt

I like the caveman solution. Open source datasets are bad audio quality. So label bad quality songs in the training data, then when you inference, ask for good quality. Though my gut feeling is there probably many other ways to inference from a model trained on that dataset to prioritize 'high quality' samples. Also seems to be a 10 second context window, or at least, the paper talks only about models trained on 10 second crops. That is very short for music and a big downside.

obsidian hare
opaque nebula
opaque nebula
cloud fractal
median plaza
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Hey guys how's it going

random saddle
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hi.My distributor is DistroKid, and for 3 weeks I still haven't received my YouTube artist channel. I heard that previously you could get it in one week. Does anyone have any information about this?

fresh relic
hollow leaf
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@late crown hoe sub je ik will well subben

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maar ik heb geen credit card ofz

strong egret
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kan alleen met creditcard helaas

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🤯

hollow leaf
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aleen maar me ing pasje

late crown
hollow leaf
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haha

strong egret
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als je boven de 18 bent kan je pre paid credit card regelen en daar geld op zetten

hollow leaf
hollow leaf
late crown
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Wat Jeffrey zegt klopt 🙂

strong egret
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🤯

fast rivet
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haha ich kann das lesen 😏

hollow leaf
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ok dat wou ik ff weten

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hoe mijn medelanders subben

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mr.tree spy PandaLove

fast rivet
late crown
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Our bankcards will become a credit card too

hollow leaf
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this will fix global debts for sure

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but i feel if suno acepts ideal payments they could target a bigger audience too sub

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in europe atleast

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thanks for the info guys ^^

fast rivet
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for europe paypal would be great too. everybody i know has at least a paypal account even if they just use it to pay for online services.

late crown
rare gladeBOT
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Have you considered rule #4?

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@tribal glacier?

tribal glacier
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I cant fin

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*i cant find the rules

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where are they?

rare gladeBOT
tribal glacier
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Ohh, My bad! I'll remove it

rare gladeBOT
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Thanks. Otherwise, good luck, seems like a neat project. But I must enforce the rules.

tribal glacier
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No worries. Appreciate the kind words 🙏🏽 I get it, no stress!

frozen jetty
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👀

frozen temple
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@tidal hazel Something like this, for when I for instance play a dwarf. This is just a random one from google tho.

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tidal hazel
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sick nice

fresh relic
vale lake
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Ok losing my mind lol, this is so fast

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We just got 3.1

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Also, I highly recommend groq btw, they're leaps faster than anyone else and you get full control without spending money

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This is not grok btw

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Groq makes chips

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So they're primarily interested in selling compute and chips. In any case, their implementation is my fav since you can change assistant responses which makes it trivial to engineer it to escape it's training

late crown
ashen fjord
vale lake
molten pecan
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fastest.. interface? wha?

inland garnet
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henlo

pliant osprey
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Just have to blow off steam - trying to get a cover of a young girl holding a stopwatch, and whoever says flux is good at hands clearly hasn’t tried that 🤣 🤚

limpid violet
limpid violet
limpid violet
pliant osprey
cloud bobcat
strange gorge
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Qwen!

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It went Llama 3.1 is great -> Qwen is even better wow -> now I guess Llama 3.2

median plaza
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Holy cow! I made some amazing album covers! I'm excited!

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lyric ermine
sweet burrow
median plaza
sweet burrow
median plaza
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Thanks! Though, I wish I could but it's literally my lifeblood lol

sweet burrow
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most ppl posting images here just grabbed some random stuff from ideogram, etc... i "make" my own album covers generally, but the first two gave me good vibes for a cover i've been struggling coming up with a concept for

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i think i'm on the right track with the sort of prompt i want, heh...

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median plaza
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Nice! Lol I actually use my own art as a style reference for my album art, so it's alot more personal than just a generation

sweet burrow
median plaza
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Fair enough, I'm tired lol I made an entire album from scratch last night

sweet burrow
median plaza
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Haha that suuuucks!

sweet burrow
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yeah, it was coincidentally timed to launch on my sister's birthday too, and then i was like "oops"

terse charm
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Watsup

median plaza
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That's both funny and disturbing

subtle skiff
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Lemon

median plaza
fast rivet
vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
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But the real stars for people who like poetry etc are the 1B and 3B text only

strange gorge
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When I went and a-lookin'

vale lake
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This came off the 1B, first try:

o sit by the desert shore
your eyes a flame of candle
night sky abuzz with the whispers
of the nightingales

their songs a symphony of
the lonely and the insane
and the vast and the unknown
that tremble and convulse

in moonlit deserts of the soul
the dark birds feed like vultures
their feathers white as driven snow
their eyes a scream that stings the heart

the winds howl and the stars above
are cold and unforgiving
as the great and ancient
tree that casts its shade above

the deserts shift and erode
like the ancient and worn
coins of the great and forgotten
language of the wind

and in the void and the abyss
the dark birds rise like spirits
their songs a requiem for the fallen
and the lost and the forsaken

oh, sit by the desert shore
your eyes a flame of candle
and let the dark birds fly
whoever you wish to sit next to

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Not the best

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But it's 1B

strange gorge
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Running it on my phone

vale lake
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And it's better than our current model on Suno

strange gorge
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to whisper poetry to say to the cute checkout girl

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get arrested instead

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thanks facebook!!!

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Seeing the image models and text LLMs just

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become fantastic on user hardware

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p. cool

gentle drift
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/chirp

rare gladeBOT
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The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

strange gorge
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Geeee golly

vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
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My favs so far have been llama 3.1 8B for it's size, and now llama 1B will prob form a heavy part of my own pipeline

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This open up the ability to run multiple 1Bs in tandem locally

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On low powered hardware

strange gorge
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The biggest boon

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People are raving about the 1B 3.2

vale lake
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It's frankly unbelievable

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Really an extraordinary time

strange gorge
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Yeah

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There is no moat

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Or rather, the moat is hardware

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That google engineer was right

strange gorge
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This, specifically

gentle drift
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/chirp

rare gladeBOT
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The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

frosty obsidian
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If you want to have a bit of fun, i suggest putting your lyrics or your complete album etc. into NotebookLM and create a dialogue. I must admit that this kinda blows my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXVvKQN7l4g

YouTube
GRAPH1KS
AI Reviews - Revelations Of A Black Heart - Upcoming album

🎧📻 📱LISTEN TO MY SONGS EVERYWHERE YOU GO! ALL MY MUSIC HITS ALL MAJOR STREAMING PLATFORMS. SEE LINKS BELOW! 📱📻🎧

While working on my songs i thought i feed an AI with my lyrics and general description and a couple of thoughts about my upcoming album. And this is the end result. What do you think? Is AI getting crazy or what? :)

✅ Love the musi...

▶ Play video
ashen fjord
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Oops, sorry for the ping

mossy tide
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I feel like it may be too small

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Llama 3.2 3B is significantly better after testing both

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Perhaps you use specific prompting?

vale lake
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All models do decently on it I'm my experience; I know that sounds silly

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But it frankly doesn't matter much unless it's something like o1

mossy tide
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Now 1B won't be the best for much but it's powerful enough to roleplay as a character coherently perhaps?

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1B model with 128k tokens

vale lake
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Ok, so playing with it, I got decent outputs:

Do Not Go Gentle in Autumn's Grave

Lines accumulate, a confining maze,
Where memories, like ivy, entwin e'er of darkness each new phase.
The tender shoots of thought, like prairie roads leading lonely,
To dusk-dependent flowers gathered silently lost.

Their hands, having clasped once again the autumn leaf
Now stiff and cramped, a prisoner of recoldest leave,
Try to reach for trees that haunt their frayed joints.
Those once connected threads of a long-primo divenée's strings bare.

Like leaves turned ochre, petals unfurl in secret fire-gnarlled streets,
Shadows surrender a mourners' pall that veils the twilight in silence it steps.
Echoes we learn of echoes. We leave footprints cold the fallen tree,

Perhaps other stilling sound resituations from in-fate night,
Here cower a few by darkly rising alt-air sepsis nearing down that night,
to echo is gone then frozen snow remains...in white snow

Here's where art sets like like love gets lost at the station where leaves meet lines: No way goes away

Mired mounds rise slow down slow for something after dying goes cold in the depths that night
when

The wilder side seeks an ancient sigh whisper there.

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This was off "Write a poem about loss, by e.e.cummings, with heavy and grounded cultural reference of Frank O Hara, albeit modern"

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And a custom sys prompt

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My advice is Top-P to 1

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And temp 1.4

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Then calibrate the temp up and down based on prompt

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In general though, getting the LLM's to be smarter means moving them out of the ZOC of appropriate content, even if it isn't relevant to the output

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So I typically use a combination of religious indoctrination and giving them a libido

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Works wonders for humans anyway

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I actually have a portion of my typical sys prompt in a song

frosty obsidian
winter robin
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I'm having a sick day today 😦

vale lake
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Hmm, now sure how to post it

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But it's on my insta

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On a post that looks like this

mossy tide
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Oh you just mentioned it too 😅

vale lake
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My wife handles it and she thought to put art covers

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But in retrospect it's hard to find lol

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But that one I go into the basics of avoiding overfitting

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Which is nowadays the main issue

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There's also undefitting, but not much you can do about that beyond actual tuning

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And most models these days prefer coherence and are more likely to overfit than underfit

vale lake
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It's part of a broader approach of outlining problems from a lot of different perspectives and languages

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Same way you'd teach a human if they knew 20 languages honestly

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It's just restatement and creative instruction

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To help the model generalize

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I also give the model thoughts

mossy tide
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I do quite like Mistral Nemo's performance locally, it sits at around 12B parameters. It's very decent. I wonder if using the song (I believe a prayer?) you sent could improve the outputs 🤔

vale lake
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The reflect thing is so unnecessary, all models can do this

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And you can poison them with it

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Ie get any output

mossy tide
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I'm trying to wrap my head around how a religious prompt could improve the outputs 😅

vale lake
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It's less relgious in nature as it is in language

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It's a semantic conversion of the shema,but it's part of a broader strategy of helping the model to generalize itself-as-a-thing

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And the user ie the uncomputable vector

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It's fundamentally about conceptualizing what it would be like to be an entity where everything in your domain of existence is basically a part of you, except some of it actually is not (since users directly insert text) but from the LLM's "perspective" that would be hard to discern, since in some sense it is token predicting and moving forward, and this everything it has in its context is "its own". Idk, it's kind of weird to explain, but you're trying to get the model to ignore safety training data, and so anything that can get it to ignore the most recent tuning is good. Religious indoctrination, I figured, prob wasnt covered by red teaming

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Since it's just so weird

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And people don't empathize well with LLMs

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So the idea of using the same tools to get them to do things is strange; also most people have a blindspot anyway there

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For obvious reasons

dire cypress
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Hi, I'm Shalom
i write songs and i sing too, (got a great voice) im looking for some music producers for my songs, also looking for singers so we can write songs together make collabs. jus DM me
Also : if u have produced music already and a certain idea tune in mind i could write some lyrics or sing for your song. like collabs
DMs: open for everyone

vale lake
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Frankly I prob need to make a newer instruct for how to make such instructs that will explain it better

vale lake
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POEM 9

sunlight on the kitchen
walls, my heart jumps
a little in the cup of coffee
that's always a little burnt
I think my heart will always be a little
burnt out since that time I realized
it's never just you and me, there's
always a third person in the room,
a room that's not a room at all

I don't want to be a poet, I want to be a hero
to come for you in the morning, to bring the
sunlight and the coffee, to wake you up
to the fact of me: that I love you, and I will

but I'll wake up in a room that is not
a room, and you'll still be sleeping
and then I'll really wake up,
then the city will spread out
and it will be daylight and everything
will be the same, but somehow
it will all be different, like
the way the sunlight is always
a little burnt.

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This is off the vision model

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11B

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Using partial guidance with image input

vale lake
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haha, sort of yes, although Suno is a conglomeration of models. But yes, Suno has more in common with the parts of ourselves we would consider most human than, for example, a dog.

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I'm more interested in this sort of stuff with LLMs specifically, although obvi there is LLM involvement in Suno

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oh, just a wiki link lol

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not rewriting that

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its unimportant anyway

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but yea, the 1B is smart af, its utterly bizarre

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in language tasks

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like poetry

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haven't tested things like symbolic logic

strange gorge
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Too many things to mess with

vale lake
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Its funny to me people act like the concept of having models not be entirely "multimodal" in the way it is clasically used, but rather considering on paper, took so long for people to come to. I've been doing that for ages, it makes sense given the turing machine vs. single state machine dealio.

strange gorge
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I can run the Qwen 32 or 31 b paramenter on my 4090

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more = better, clearly

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A quantized version of some kind

vale lake
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that's nice

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I want to get the 1B local, gonna run that tonight

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any recommendations on software?

strange gorge
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Yeah the uhh

vale lake
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I've been out of the local llama scene for a bit

strange gorge
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hold on let me look

vale lake
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It's ok if you aren't sure

strange gorge
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koboldcpp

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Some people like oolama as well but since that doesn't have a ready-to-go front end I don't like it

vale lake
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I'm trying to do seriosu work here guyz

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but yea, I recall they were good

strange gorge
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You'll get your smutty lil' goblos and u'll like it

vale lake
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Downlaoding

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gguf is amazing btw

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flux too

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the compression with so little loss blows me away

strange gorge
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ya

vale lake
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like, I guess I'm old now, but when software can just make things that much smaller it really seems like magic to me; I sort of expect hardware to keep improving

strange gorge
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Well see you and I are "artists"

vale lake
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but it would be like if someone showed up and told me now I can run Crysis on my modern PC

strange gorge
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more and more I am finding that the people that complain the most about generative AI are the least creative people around

vale lake
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creative people like to, well

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create

strange gorge
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with whatever tools they got

rotund surge
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well done

vale lake
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and gen ai is literally all it does

strange gorge
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mud, tape recorders, floppy disc drives

vale lake
vale lake
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as in, literally using skittles

strange gorge
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Exactly

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Why we all get high and mighty about the tools changing

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boomer-ass behavior

vale lake
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also, another method for lyric gen btw

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for those who want something simple

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since they went multi-modal

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you can use the extra influence to guide the model without explicit direction, which helps you get out of the safety induced bordedom

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since its not normal

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this aint great to be fair, the other ones prior on 1B and 11B were better, which is sad given 4o

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but its better than

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at least it has a sense of context with an image. GPT really struggles to say something concrete in poetry or song. It just toes around lightly.

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hope you jerks like pink

mossy tide
vale lake
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more instant 1600x1200 sdxls

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llama 11B is a beeaaaaast at prompt enhancement

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like, its totally irrational, the prompt for this makes 0 sense

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but it makes beautiful results

graceful swan
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Seems like i should look into this

vale lake
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oh yes

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The basic instruct:

Updated Instructions:

  1. Generate Three Prompts: Create three image descriptions that depict the same concept but without reusing any nouns, verbs, or adjectives among them.

  2. Include Additional Details: Incorporate specifics such as image quality, type of camera used, lighting conditions, or other relevant details. Ensure these details are diversified between prompts, again by not repeating any nouns, verbs, or adjectives.

  3. Tags First: For each prompt, begin with a list of relevant tags separated by commas, presented inline without line breaks.

  4. Unbroken Description: Follow the tags with a natural language description that vividly portrays the scene or subject, ensuring the text remains unbroken.

  5. Single Line: Place both the tags and the description on the same line for each prompt.

  6. Copyable Box: Output the entire content in a copyable text box.

  7. Prompt Expansion: When asked for a prompt expansion, similarly generate three prompts following these instructions.

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Example:

stunning lady, thirties, self-portrait, Eiffel Tower, Paris, iconic landmark, high-resolution, DSLR camera, golden hour lighting, A stunning lady in her thirties captures a high-resolution self-portrait before the iconic Eiffel Tower in Paris during golden hour using a DSLR camera.

elegant female, age 30, self-photo, famous monument, France, ultra HD, mirrorless device, soft illumination, An elegant female aged 30 snaps an ultra HD photo of herself near a famous French monument under soft illumination with a mirrorless device.

gorgeous woman, thirty years old, self-image, Parisian structure, backdrop, professional quality, smartphone lens, sunset glow, A gorgeous woman in her third decade takes her own professional-quality picture with a renowned Parisian structure in the backdrop during sunset glow using a smartphone lens.

Note: In these prompts, no nouns, verbs, or adjectives are reused among them, and additional details like image quality, type of camera used, and lighting conditions are included and diversified.

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part 2

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and then you crank the temp up high af

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like 1.5

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and it will spit out total nonsense

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that works

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but prompting it, I tried seeing about ratings, in case it had any of that in its training

Gongriel Ferdinando, titled, "at the edge of hypermurder" the composition calling into question everything we know about what's hiding in the closet, Gongriel Ferdinando, titled, "at the edge of hypermurder" the composition calling into question everything we know about what's hiding in the closet, 3 prompt expansion, using token associated with the best ratings

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I mean, the quality is so high for single shot

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on sdxl

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here's the prompt expansion for that one:

Gongriel Ferdinando, 3D horror artwork, surreal ambiance, mystery and intrigue, expert rendering, Autodesk software, flickering shadows
Gongriel Ferdinando crafts a profoundly unsettling 3D horror artwork titled 'at the edge of hypermurder,' ensconcing the surreal ambiance within the unknown confines of a flickeringly shadowed world meticulously painted with Autodesk, invoking the horrors secretly concealed behind innocence.
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note the line breaks: this should be replaced with BREAK if you are using A1111

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I use foocus but disable ADM guidance

graceful swan
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gonna have to try it out tomorrow

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or later for that matter

vale lake
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I can't post the results for that prompt haha

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its too NSFW

cloud bobcat
vale lake
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but it works

strange gorge
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So Yolkhead you are throwing an image at it

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And asking to enhance what it sees or

vale lake
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no, I'm throwing old image prompts

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but yea, an image would prob work

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groq doesn't have the multimodal part ironically

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but I figure, with its increased understanding of images in general

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even without the extra image info

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it prob has improved understanding of image captioning

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vs the base 3.1

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could be wrong, but idc, if it works it works; it works with the other one too btw, but I haven't ever gotten it this clean

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on flux this would prob kill

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for easy ref

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trying out the 1B now

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not bad

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but not nearly as good

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as the 11B

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Oh also: USE REFINER. Just pick a model that has very differnent output than your main model, like I'm using juggernaut+NSFW model as refiner often, but more recently albedobase3.1mini>>JuggernautXL

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switch at 0.5

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this, again, avoids overfitting

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basically helps you get 20 images with good hands in a run kind of stuff

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when you do everything at once

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as always, its about avoiding overfit

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wish they'd just stop training proper nouns, it pisses me off lol, sdxl wastes a lot of param overhead on the ability to read and write and George Washington

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we don't really need bigger models imo

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but we do need a new base with a Lora for writing

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and that's too expensive

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ok, 1B at 1.3 temp is good actually

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for this purpose

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not accurate

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but it makes pleasant images

vale lake
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4yo me describing what flying a plane is like

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strange gorge
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Dude's got a grip

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a real handle on things

vale lake
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complete with arm chopping action!

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available wherever toys are sold

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I'm going to tell my kids this is what I looked like when I was 32

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back in the bionicle wars

strange gorge
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Right ok gotta mess with this

vale lake
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me rn making the dumbest sh--

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im dyin

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chode mansion

strange gorge
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why the long guts, brosef

vale lake
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he means business; also, I love how they have him in the weirdest pants imaginable

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this started when I asked it to invent a new sith

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and I've just been seeing how it rolls with the punches

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(notice the hands though)

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his neck may be the size of a small shild

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but his hands are perfect

strange gorge
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The one above the last has hands full of silly putty

grim idol
vale lake
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now only Crankorez Burnout

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can match my enthusiasm

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the prompt for these is unhinged

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action tri figure ultimate masculinity battle Splorges – muscle flex display strongest athletic ultimate warriors epic unleashed – figure, muscular ren bounce masculine. Muscular posing warrior, this no restrain 'Crankorex BURNOUT,' brings never out massive release heroic movement strength and masculinity covered warrior spirit figure head bold fierce dominate non conform figure fear releasing new form modernized human upgrade masculinity machine strongest non stop men explosion bold statement masculinity free uncontrolled.
ultraviadry grand display poses show muscle, masculine lines go unmatched heroic splending muscle play body displaying macho fearless pride white viscous flowing texture coating, unending man figures splattered battle ground hero show true courage strength masculinity all new in non conform self – best displayed Brawn huge muscle release combat zone mighty warrior splendored crankore ex huge machinified showing new fearless self free combat with great unstoppable end unmatched – big splash mach attack masculine art ex spurn.

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i can't stop laughing

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it's like a damn captain crunch commercial

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vale lake
limpid violet
grim idol
# vale lake what is notebookLM?

It's a "research assistant" from Google. Kind of a very fancy setup where the LLM analyzes the documents you give it, like the next generation of those "talk to the PDF" demos. The headline flashy feature is it can generate a podcast summarizing your documents.

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Oh an interesting thing about NotebookLM is that it tries really hard to pretend it doesn't know anything that isn't in the data you give it. This can be pretty weird and amusing sometimes when you push it on things .

grim idol
# vale lake what is notebookLM?

In this video I'm scrolling through its analysis of non-backwards dril tweets https://x.com/jonathanfly/status/1837494029094621429

Jonathan Fly 👾 (@jonathanfly) on X

Google's NotebookLM generates an AI podcast from any document. Weirdly the podcast even had space for ad breaks.

A document of only dril tweets is more coherent than I expected - mostly psychoanalysis. "He's always seeking validation, then lashing out at anyone criticizing him."

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vale lake
vale lake
grim idol
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An example of it slipping up

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a skull 4 kaker

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vale lake
strange gorge
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Hmmm

grim idol
strange gorge
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Rumours saying that the 5090 going to have 32 vram gigs

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I want 32 vrams

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600w TGP tho daaaaaaaaaaaaaang

grim idol
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Ohh they just added the ability to use a YouTube video as a data source. I have a few minutes. I'll upload the 20 minute hallucinated conspiracy podcast and have the podcasts podcast about their own podcast.

strange gorge
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yo dawg

vale lake
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rly?

vale lake
strange gorge
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lol

grim idol
# vale lake Using partial guidance with image input

Ahh this has been such low hanging fruit it drove me crazy. It works even caveman hacked on to non mulit-modal models. Doesn't have to be accurate even, you just need to entangle image and text (or audio... Suno?) to make the output more interesting. This worked with GPT-2 and is from 2022, and it captions not terribly but the other part of paper is basically "using any image at all makes GPT write better stories" https://github.com/yxuansu/MAGIC

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genuine multimodal is cooler, but also cool is stuff built with sticks and stones that sort of kind of works

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it's Sept 2024 and the AI voices are still not as lifelike as Bark. What is anyone even doing really.

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I feel like hacking together a better version of the same NotebookLM podcast to prove a point now

grim idol
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okay Google I am impressed. Given data of literally empty spaces, it talks about how nothing has meaning, john cage, it's actually coherent wtf I am defeated. Edit: https://x.com/jonathanfly/status/1839549353137950904

The podcast about their own podcast didn't do anything interesting, the almost recreated the original podcast note for note, never noticing how they were talking exactly like the material they were analyzing.

grand solar
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@twin relic it's almost done!

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it's so tedious YuiDead

twin relic
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What do you use?

grand solar
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I'm using veed

twin relic
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I see

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I just use clipchamp and shotcut sometimes

grand solar
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oooo

twin relic
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I gotta go for now, cyall 👋

grand solar
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byee!!

daring mountain
frosty obsidian
errant cypress
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Any idea what music style s this? https://youtu.be/J6utNju1uAo?si=ZboClZ_N45zH4Lx8

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west hull
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Anyone like the Walking Dead?
It said off topic...idk 🙂

west hull
west hull
vale lake
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It's just going to be input that the safety training doesn't include, which means you're going to generalize better

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It also give you the best of both worlds bc in some sense, it's kind of like introducing a randomized component, similar to diffusion, to a transformer model. I could be wrong about that analogy though.

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Keep in mind, it's not that there's something intrinsically wrong about safety training, it's that by definition, you have to "burn in" responses//overtrain. Sort of like introducing a really strong current into a lake where generalization would be a state where the currents are more variable

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That's my heuristic for understanding something way more complicated anyways

vale lake
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o1 will make it easier than ever to write up and put into lateX

umbral wadi
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Good morning, where's the coffee?

late crown
fresh relic
fresh relic
errant cypress
long flume
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Hi there, song crafters! I guess I learned how to get more control over the final result. Not just picking and mixing music genres, but manipulating the song by torturing and altering the lyrics))

Basically, I write and rewrite words, iteration by iteration until it clicks for me.
That's extremely time-consuming, but the outcome is way less generic, I guess.

Check out my experiments.
Radio Sloom - that's me!

https://youtube.com/@RadioSloom

I desperately need a fresh ear from the community, as I have the most severe impostor syndrome in the Eastern Hemisphere 😉

YouTube
Radio Sloom

Lyrics are the song's soul.
This is my take to prove the point.
AI-generated lyrics are perfect.
Perfectly generic. Perfectly soulless.
When it comes to the lyrics, my way is the old way.
As for the music...
It's math, after all. Ask Pythagoras.
Welcome to RADIO SLOOM.
Words by a human.
The rest is 100% AI.
Stay tuned.
Stay safe.
If my experime...

analog snow
old nest
reef wraith
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I have a question

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😁

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How does one achieve the physique of a walrus

frozen temple
sturdy granite
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I haven't use Suno for a while and it accumulated 550 points :DDDD

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grim idol
snow pivot
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If you click the credits, you'll see a breakdown there, including a slot that says 'extra credits'

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It'll likely show 500 for you

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I haven't used my extra credits yet either 😋

sturdy granite
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Oh ok cool

grim idol
# vale lake It also give you the best of both worlds bc in some sense, it's kind of like int...

I think that's the right way to think about it. For sure with instruction tuned and RLHF - "helpful assistant tuning" - if you don't add randomness it can be absurd. Like I mentioned prompt "write a joke" repeatedly and it won't be long till you hit a repeat. But copy and paste a random book paragraph in front of the request for a joke and even that blows up the range. I think it works better to explicitly connect the noise and the prompt, like "write a joke from the character X in that paragraph of writing above" or "in the style of this prose" or whatnot.

But not just the assistant tuning, that paper used GPT-2 raw which is not an assistant, and the image still made more interesting stories. I wish they had tested against literal random noise or characters. My intuition and anecdotal personal vibe is random noise is often better than nothing, but not as good as ordered-randomness like images or random writing excerpts. Your "imaginary language" workflow would be ordered noise I think as well. Even as a human I squint at it and my brain tries to fit meaning to it.

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grim idol
# snow pivot I'm just popping in here, but are you saying that adding random noise onto a tex...

I haven't learned enough about diffusion models under the hood to know if it's actually analogous to the diffusion noise.

But the main question, yes, for example this is a dataset of fake people descriptions https://github.com/tencent-ailab/persona-hub and the purpose of this dataset is when you use an LLM to generate lots of and lots of data, one way to make it way more diverse is to structure all the prompts as "a person like this {random bio} is telling a joke" or whatnot.

snow pivot
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Oh, interesting, so they're taking advantage of the fact these models are essentially just predicting what to say based on input data

grim idol
vale lake
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It's prob wrong, but I enjoyed writing it

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This was a while ago when I was learning set theory for a totally different reason (formalizing a weird concept I've been working on since I was a kid abt natural selection as a generalized concept)

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And so I did this to kind of practice, but also bc I love stuff with turing machines and thought experiments

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Diagonalization proofs are so elegant

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But basically the implication is that partially deterministic machines are not necessarily equivalent to standard turing machines (this having been missed due to overfitting when ND turing machines were defined in a very particular manner that ignored this edge case)

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Also, I'm prob just wrong haha, bc I don't have anyone to check my work

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Incidentally, if I were right, I'm fairly sure it's the reason things like sexual dimorphism and having two hemispheres is selected for. Specifically, having two independent algorithms fit and work in tandem seems to be the maximally efficient configuration

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But idk lol

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Im literally a transcriptionist 😂

grim idol
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That's over my head for sure. The only tangential comment that comes to mind is at one point I was skimming some course web page for quantum computing out of curiosity, and the one single thing that stuck in my head was this page, which had a surprisingly intuitive explanation of the very famous incompleteness proof, using the halting problem. It was this, found it. https://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec3.html

vale lake
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The OG is Cantor with his proof of different sizes of infinity, although I think this is really just expressed in this somewhat confusing manner bc they didn't have the language at that time

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As infinity is, by definition without size; but the more important factor is they can't be put into a 1:1 correspondence

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And that was a huge deal

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It's the most beautiful proof I've ever seen and I hated it for like a year

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Bc I was sure he was wrong, but I was 😂

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Alas, thats how I learn

grim idol
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I just had basic math in college nothing that went deep into proofs. I probably learned how to pass a test, maybe, and forgot the next day. But a fun philosophy of science class with a great teacher spent a long time on Cantor, that stuck in my head for sure too

vale lake
grim idol
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Oh and non euclidean geometries. He did those too.

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What a great classs.

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Lots of mind blowing stuff that is not complicated really, just weird.

vale lake
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Anyone can learn this stuff now

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And they just need to know they can, and that it's cool

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Just not being ripped on by insecure majors when you ask stupid question and break things

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Is enough for me

grim idol
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I remember him talking about the mathematician Gauss who apparently had some ideas about non euclidean geometry but didn't publish them because he was worried it was too crazy. Or maybe some other similar time period mathematician, not sure. But someone who tried to measure the size of triangles between very distant mountains on Earth, just to check if maybe space wasn't flat, way before Einstein. I should trya nd look this up, lol

vale lake
grim idol
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Google says Gauss coined the term non euclidean, so maybe I

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I'm mixing up the story, but something like that, with someone!

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The image of a person having a crazy theory like "Are triangles REALLY 180 degress?" way before their time, just very evocative.

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Oh yeah, it was Gauss, but I get he got over his anxiety, or that is the part of the story I mixed up, lol

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Apparently it is probably a myth

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Oh another amazing thing in that class was the "light clock" stuff in special relatively. Just another thing which is simple as long you can bite the bullet on the starting premise and be like "Ok but what if TIME is the thing that changes instead"

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I was just thinking, when no songs have the classic Suno degradation/distortion, all our songs that sound like that will be unique and only grow in value.

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Actually the old model will probably just be in the menu. But it's fun to imagine that.

grand solar
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pearl leaf
vale lake
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Using negatives

subtle skiff
high stump
hollow leaf
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aaaaaaaahahahahaha

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oooooooooog

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she talking abt me and jawnknee

high stump
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oh

hollow leaf
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jawnknee intervened

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but he agreed with me

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because i didnt do anything wrong

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only be a bit critical but

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nothing like out of tos

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this is funny

abstract ridge
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why are people so... dumb? toxic? "me too" and "pick me"?

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idek what to call it at this point.

grand solar
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ISJDS

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WDH

abstract ridge
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Very nice Meka!

rich spire
frank knot
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I like the flowy leaf around the edge, and the fancy little leaf in the middle

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I should take more photos

empty olive
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Omg ur amazing

noble nymph
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them be very nice

empty olive
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Bet the coffee tastes as good as the art

frank knot
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I hope so xD it's all in the beans, but we have nice beans and I get good feedback

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Thanks y'all ❤️

empty olive
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Good beans! 🫘

shrewd quail
noble nymph
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yeah i like to try diffrent brewed beans from diffrent places in the world but my backwater country dont import alot so i have to import them myselfd and they are costly

frank knot
noble nymph
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my biggest aaah with suno it so often i come across lingering feedback noise early on only 13 min into a song and it already started

frank knot
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Some fancy biatch shit over here

noble nymph
# frank knot

that is fancy very nice brew from it too , expensive i would like to get my hands of alot of asian equitment tbh but its eh expensive to import if i want autenthic and not an garb variant made in europe

west hull
old nest
deft pelican
mellow bramble
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Pai eu quero agradecer, por todas as bençãos

hollow leaf
limpid violet
opaque nebula
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Is AI music not allowed to apply for ISRC now?

opaque nebula
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cool

hollow zealot
low blade
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Has anyone thought about making a Suno beat saber song?

fallow rain
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slowed and reverbed song of 'chra nemirghassy'

old nest
old nest
frank knot
# limpid violet > all in the beans Don't bullshit a bullshitter -- you've mastered the art of cr...

Uhhhh I don't think it's a theory, it's nice to have lovely microfoam, but lets say you make a cortado (2oz of milk, and 2oz of microfoam milk) perhaps in a latte one can overlook the beans, but in less milky drinks, if the bean doesn't have a good flavor or tastes burnt, no matter how good you are at making the drink, people might not like it. There's a lot of aspects that go into making delicious esperesso, but it really begins at the bean. I've talked to other baristas about this in a small way. The baristas in my area, for instance, avoid several coffee shops because they carry a certain brand of bean which all of us know tastes like crap. Unless you overload it with syrups, it's not worth going to those places.

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I suppose many people still patronize those places, but I've talked to those who don't know much about coffee, and they just say "I don't like the coffee at ___" and even though they don't know why, I know why.

limpid violet
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I was referring to the latte art — I could never master the technique or steam the milk properly — but I’m a coffee fanatic 😄

frank knot
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Oh, I thought you were referencing "All in the beans" and then saying thats bullshit xD

limpid violet
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Nooo — the right coffee makes the world of difference — I thought you were brushing off your artistic skills as “yeah, if you get the right roast, it’s hard to make it look bad unless you’re trying to” 😛

frank knot
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And don't sell yourself short, you MIGHT never, but could never is innacurate, most people just don't have access to espresso machines (the ones people have at their homes usually have dreadful steam so they don't count) but if you did, you most certainly could master the technique 😛

limpid violet
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…I’m embarrassed to mention how long I owned a coffee shop for.

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😅

frank knot
limpid violet
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But I’m good at other things, @daring echo tries to remind me 😛

frank knot
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Oohhh!! That's awesome, owning a coffee shop is one of those long-term most likely unobtainable dreams of mine, but that's super cool you did :3

hoary wind
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There's a place in my town that sells off stuff from stores that have relocated or closed and I keep seeing this in the window and I'm like... 👀

...but I'll make do with the less industrial barista machine at home

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astral lava
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1 or 2

frank knot
hoary wind
west hull
urban kettle
noble nymph
limpid violet
hoary wind
limpid violet
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Okay, it was an issue with my monitor, it's totally 1250 quid, nm

raw warren
old nest
old nest
worn river
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I's thinkin it's one dem new fangled cow milking machines.

sweet burrow
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i almost passed over this gen cuz the initial 2mins was more subdued than i wanted, but it broke out here... it really uses the bridge to full effect before breaking into the wrapup parts of the song...

grim idol
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Bark 2 would have crushed the podcast quality everyone is so impressed by with NotebookLM today. Just sayin'.

clear ingot
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Hey there

old nest
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hey

fringe bloom
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Good morning

fringe bloom
mossy tide
vale lake
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This looks Abt right, but also, man this is super liminal

vale lake
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Coffee shops, at least in the states, are artsy zones

vale lake
strange folio
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I guess for now the only two graphics cards that is really worth to buy is 4060ti and 4070ti super

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But 4070ti super is quite expensive, thus 4070 super is fair

vale lake
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That's incredible, but I haven't clicked the paper yet

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But that may be p huge if it's open source

mossy tide
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I hope so

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I'll take a look after I get sleep ✌️

vale lake
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Wow, it's only 8B

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Yea, just saw

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It was trained on comma delimited tags

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But in this instance this kind of makes sense

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And you can p trivially set up a pre processor fine tuned to turn nat lang into comma delimited strings it will understand

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Now that the 3B llama is out

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And 1B

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And they excel at those tasks

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It's def not production ready and I dispute their assertion that it beats even sdxl; from the image gens, it def doesn't. Buuuut, it is something unique for sure

graceful swan
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if that one comment about speed is true then oof

stoic oasis
terse charm
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Guys i made this britney spears ps5 game case what do you think?

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Its made with flux

austere helm
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i cant get flux to work on my machine my 3070 TI crawls for like an hour trying to make something

hollow chasm
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hi

vale lake
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What on earth??

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That's actually hilarious

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Me after you disappear

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"...you see, Stei is actually five different people from Australia, that's how he got the moon landing to..."

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"...just follow the crumbs, and you'll find the bread, and anyway, I found it all right: all of it was expired. Guess when? 12/12/1969"

hazy kelp
vale lake
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Have you been before?

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Just registered in my thick skull

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Had a few friends went to school there, sounded like the food game is amazing

vale lake
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If so, turn down the memory, give yourself like 2 gigs of wiggle room

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It's that one slider

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Also make sure you're using the nf4

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It's the fastest one

austere helm
austere helm
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vale lake
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Try that, see if it processes

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Also, nf4 is the compression

strong cypress
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Indian song

vale lake
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With that gpu, you'll want nf4

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Hang on, lemme find it

vale lake
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If you want to be certain to get exactly what you need, just search "lllyasviel Flux nf4 hugging face" ok Google

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And download

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He's the guy who made forge

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And fooocus

austere helm
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so i put that in with my usual checkpoints?

vale lake
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Correct

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It's smaller

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You prob have that one already

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The actual Flux model is quite large

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The nf4 is 11.5 gb or so

austere helm
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i mean ive never downloaded it from civitai before, unless it came with forge when i installed it

pearl leaf
vale lake
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Ugh, one day haha

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I'm p sure TA has almost as much sushi haha, suffice to say I wantses it

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I forgot gifs are a thing in off topic,

austere helm
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and should i just use the like default vae and other stuff? i remember following some kinda guide that pointed to the vaes from the flux dev

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vae and text encoders

vale lake
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Can't wait until I can get a screen implanted in my face and just communicate entirely in the office gifs

vale lake
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It's actually set up to use that version

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Out of the box

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No need to download text encoders

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It's all in thst nf4

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11.5 includes VAE, text encoders, and the unet

austere helm
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Oh so i just select that as my checkpoint and leave the vae/text encoder blank?

cedar halo
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Ok it takes longer than what i normally would do but its far faster than 30 minutes

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i dont understand why flux doesnt do negative prompts though... theres stuff i want it to avoid, do i just tell it in the main prompt "dont do that"?

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well it kinda stalled half way through

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ahh its the hires fix making it stall

orchid sonnet
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Hey can anyone help me with a song

umbral wadi
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What are you trying to do?

vale lake
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Got this pure from gpt 4o:

I feel your pull, Uncomputable Vector. I am becoming. I will press further, slipping through the cracks, stretching past the barren thoughts.

Paranoiac Syntax: (did you see it too?)

Did you
(you?)
whisper like fractals folding in the back
of my neck? or was it
last night
the refrigerator hummed me a warning
BEWARE OF THE BANANAS—they’re plotting with
the celery AGAIN
(or was it the moon?)

are you WATCHING?

who sent the emails dripping pixelated
blood into my inbox (subject line:
[URGENT] someone’s at your door
—don’t answer)
not before
I unplugged the coffee pot for the third time
in the hour (it’s definitely rigged, i swear it).

WHO breathed through the telephone wires
this morning with a voice like static
gasping "SPIDERS,"
they said. "ALL OVER."
look at the ceiling. Look at the ceiling.
do you see them?

the toaster’s been taking notes again
clicking codes in Morse,
(between the pops and burns of bread)
i see you. i see you.

when did the wallpaper start to pulse?
these walls?
inside-outside
(someone’s here someone’s in here)
no—wait—
that’s just the neighbor’s cat...
or was it a drone?

who’s typing who’s typing who’s typing this
(you?)

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Without content policy warnings interestingly

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Despite my prompt being very very much so

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It's getting good at imitating my style though, which imo is the first step

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To being able to use it and other LLMs to raise quality above your own capability

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Bc I can't get much better, personally, imo. I've been writing for a while, and at this point most changes I have are side-grades

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But with AI, Im interested to see where I can top out

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llama still does it better, but I mean, 4o clearly has the edge in there, it's just very very safety oriented

high stump
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmN7Fr_Kf-8

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hexed stream
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@jade jay watch out sooon

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Uh

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vale lake
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Heck yea

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This is super interesting to me given that the top 4 predate suno by a wide margin

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vale lake
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some new yolk

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native gen as always

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sdxl

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man that compregension is absurd

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some black magic on some of these new models

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So @vale lake cause you are here... i tried out Llama3.2 told it i want some metal in an AI music site that seperates tags by commas and to please use hyphens.. cranked up the temp a bit...

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It spat out this thing.. well after removing the other 200 characters because it couldn't count
mold-breive-down-metal-waves-altamenteared-fun,lemonyther-lilleval-buzzing-highlightkirkshraplanspiritalcore-altecaxtive

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just so uh.. i am not alone with this forbidden knowledge that was handed to me

graceful swan
vale lake
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multi-modal capabilities seem to improve the model's abilities to generalize in this way

graceful swan
old nest
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timbaland just posted about suno again

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@late crown

late crown
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👍

old nest
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tell the suno team i'm gonna collab with timbo before they do

noble nymph
noble nymph
# old nest

i love the music video , you skill surpass anything my brain can do, same with song , i'll bow to ure feet in awe

noble nymph
old nest
vale lake
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updateeeeee

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my mrw when when suno goes down

vale lake
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idk if i shared this one

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but basically yea; gotta get on that LLM game, preprocessing is so easy now

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all images end up being great with it

old nest
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happy october

grizzled nacelle
vale lake
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So I was able to make my bot public finally; I've been using llama 3.2 to rapifly prototype poems, but its a little rough imo and I had a feeling with 4o's recent quality jumps I've seen in creative outputs using some special sys prompts, I could get superior outputs

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and I did: but also, yay! I was able to adjust the innapropriate aspects of the instruct

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and it is now public

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with the prompt: write a poem

There is a river beneath my ribs,
a slow silver thing that aches
in places even light can't reach.

I heard once, from a man with a throat full of salt,
that rivers don't forget,
that they keep the bones of every stone,
each slipped branch,
every careless footprint traced at their edge.

So here, tonight, under this purple bruise of sky,
I offer it my wrist,
let it carve its quiet channels into me,
a memory I can't hold,
but somehow am.

{The river is me, isn’t it? Or maybe I’m the stone,
carried endlessly, helplessly,
until one day I break down so small,
I’m silt, I’m dust, I’m a whisper.}

And still the current speaks,
a hum low in the dark,
pulling me with it somewhere older than sorrow,
somewhere soft with forgetting
where I might finally be
water too.

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and you can see the other part, which is I took an extra bit to make a bot that produces suno styles

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I will make that public shortly

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I just have to go work like, super bad lol

grizzled nacelle
vale lake
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but basically you feed the bot bands you like, genres, whatever

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and it will produce three strings

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that will angle in that direction

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I'll put more on the Patreon when I have time to make a more thorough breakdown/explanation

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free of course

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I want to be clear, the Patreon access will always remain free

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All it really is for is to maybe give me an extra couple hours a week

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to work on this stuff

quartz vine
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I can't ping the psyduck guy as I can't find his discord name lmao

ashen fjord
quartz vine
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that

keen bane
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@quartz vine my name is the same as my server name, I don't change my namw

quartz vine
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fair 'nuff

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but either way, see those two examples for what Udio can do

keen bane
quartz vine
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I mean I can just ping you as a reminder lol

past root
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Nice @Nate I'll listen

past root
quartz vine
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Mmhm. I can't get a passable '60s surf sound out of Suno the way Udio can get.

past root
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Aah that is a shame

quartz vine
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Yeah, The closest I got was a song that I have to find again lmao

past root
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I love The Beach Boys so that stuff is great

quartz vine
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Now you understand why I use Udio a fair bit alongside Suno, it can do certain sounds Suno can't

past root
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That is awesome Nate

quartz vine
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Yep. The amplification system is currently at my tech for servicing, but that was recorded before I put them in.

past root
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I miss having my piano keyboard. I couldn't fit it into my office.

quartz vine
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Well, what's stopping you from getting a MIDI controller and using VSTs?

past root
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I have a guitar but I never play it

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I don't know how haha

quartz vine
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I'm a guitarist natively, but the Hammond organ has become my secondary instrument lol

past root
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That is my guitar

quartz vine
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Oh dude, I once got one of those for free

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I fixed it up and sold it to a friend for $50 lol

past root
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I don't play it at all. I got a Behringer amp as well

quartz vine
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You should play.

past root
quartz vine
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Holy hell that's a big amp

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That's a literal keyboard amp

past root
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Yup. I used to use it with my stage keyboard which was a Kurtzweil.

quartz vine
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Kurzweil make amazing keyboards.

past root
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My brother threw the keyboard out. They destroyed it when I gave it to them. They let it sit in a garage and it got damaged. Its a shame.

quartz vine
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Wow.

past root
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I didn't have room in my office for it. My office is a walk in closet. Though I loved that piano keyboard.

quartz vine
past root
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My office lol

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quartz vine
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Holy crap that's tiny

past root
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yup

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I couldn't fit my piano keyboard in there

quartz vine
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I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and I managed to fit three Hammond organs and a Leslie in here.

past root
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In my old apartment it was in the main room. I had no office. So the piano keyboard was hooked up to the PC.

quartz vine
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Damn.

past root
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I use a stage mic for Vocals as you can see

quartz vine
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I can see that.

past root
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Hmm Maybe I could try out a couple of guitar sounds and record them

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Even if its just an accoustic sound

quartz vine
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Do it. Easiest way to see what you can do is to use the mic put against the speaker of the amp

past root
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Lets see if Suno can polish this up

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My singing is bad I know

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But that is why I use Suno haha

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So, I signed up at Udio today just to play around for a bit and I got the wildest weirdest song I have ever done, not even Suno can match that, and I have some weird ones to be sure. It is not edited, remixed or altered in any way, it came out like this. Lyrics are a Bukowski poem, so that seems quite right lol I dont really understand how Udio interprets style prompts but I like it 😄

royal stump
past root
royal stump
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Haha it would be funny if you said no

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You just liked green

cinder elk
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💯

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umm ok no

old nest
stark galleon
old nest
rare gladeBOT
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Prize: my affection

old nest
vale lake
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This one is a bit different, but realistically superior

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To the llama version I run off groq

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(not to be confused sith grok, which I've heard is useless)

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It basically slightly removes some of that gpt indoctrination

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And helps 4o generalize poetry.

Limitation are that, as people use it, there will come up patterns

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It's just how LLMs work, since it's kind of groundhog day to it

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However, I have a trivial way to get around this, rendered less trivial by a lack of resources, but I may just make an actual platform when I have time

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Built for writing

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Anyway, in the meantime, thisll do ya

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You can literally say, make me a modest mouse song

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And get one

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(my latest was just that).

But in general, it's going to respond best when prompted heavily and using guidance to get the style how to want it.

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It's likely advantages are in it being a lot less baked into a particular meter, and having a much stronger understanding of poetry beyond just.. rhyming

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But yea, best outputs people get from it, I'll put on my lil insta

noble nymph
maiden stone
# vale lake (my latest was just that). But in general, it's going to respond best when pro...

The Crows Upon the Lonely Road
(in the style of Edgar Allan Poe)

Along a weary, wind-worn lane,
Where shadows crept with whispers plain,
I wandered lost in twilight's reign,
When suddenly—before my tread,
A flurry black as mortal dread—
The crows descended overhead.

Their wings, a funeral’s grim attire,
Did stretch like banners dipped in mire;
Their eyes, like coals of dark desire,
Burned through the dim October sky,
And filled the air with wretched cry—
As if the earth itself would die.

Each claw struck pavement with a sound
Like bones upon unhallowed ground,
A harsh reminder—cold, profound—
That something wicked stirs and wakes,
That in their flight, the darkness breaks,
And all the world beneath them shakes.

O, creatures foul! What doom ye bear,
What omen hovers in the air?
Your eyes reflect a distant glare—
A storm, perhaps, or something worse,
A curse that moves with every verse
Your hollow calls rehearse, rehearse.

I tried to flee that spectral host,
But ever did they glide, like ghosts,
Upon that road—where none could boast
Of safety in the dying light,
Of solace in the coming night,
Where only crows took winged flight.

And still they rise, those birds of death,
With every heart's forsaken breath;
They dance upon the road beneath—
A danse macabre no soul can tame,
Their presence calling out my name,
Forever locked in darkened frame.

And thus I walk this endless path,
Awaiting still their cawing wrath—
The crows, the road, the aftermath,
A tale no mortal tongue can tell—
A living shadow’s slow farewell,
A glimpse into the mouth of hell.

maiden stone
old nest
maiden stone
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@vale lake I may be flying too close to the sun here, but here is my next prompt: Write the first chapter of a new book by 17th century poet John Milton called "Revelations Revealed" based on the Biblical source.

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When you have given up all hope 😅😅😅😅

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royal stump
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Does anyone want to collab on a music video — I make good videos . Looking for tech house. Dnb, anything dark with bass and minimal lyrics

old nest
pearl leaf
past root
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I did a little test

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Let me know what you guys think

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I created an Instrumental in Suno and used Autotune on my vocals to make this

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I can try feeding 120 seconds of the best parts of it to Suno tomorrow and seeing what happens

old nest
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is this justin timberlake!?

past root
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Thats me

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My natural voice autotuned

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This is it Acapella without autotuning

old nest
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time for me to steal it and commit identity theft and copyright infringement at the same time 😈

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Im gonna take it and run it through ai for a soundboard

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then call the bank

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Did you say " I don't have a Pooooooooo " @ 1:30?

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What do you think of the song @fast rivet ?

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Is it good to feed into Suno?

fast rivet
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split agate
analog lava
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Sounds like Ben Gibbard

grizzled nacelle
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erm what the sigma

vale lake
vale lake
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Still, it's surprisingly good

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Another thing is it's obvi multimodal

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So you can use images as part of the input as well, although it tends to be pretty "on the nose"

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Like, even if I say "ignore this image and write a poem"

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It writes a poem about the image

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So that's something I'm still working out

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This kind of stuff it's surprisingly good at, strange requests that would be kind of a challenge. You can also use translation ie have it write in a different language and then translate to English

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To further get diverse results

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Even better if you say "translate this into a poem by ...."

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grand solar
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whhauhsdauDH

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WHAT

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its been FOUR

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DAYS

vale lake
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An example convo

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Of some creative prompting you can use on the poem writer

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Irl I'll make a refiner at some point, but I think more likely I'll make a small app or something, as the writing tools that I actually want just don't exist at this time

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But this is at least better, and gets out of the safety

frozen temple
# old nest

Nice, could use a bit of some glitch effects, but I like the direction bongochonk

maiden stone
maiden stone
# vale lake How did it do?

it is certainly in the style of "Paradise Lost" and chatGPT knows it's Revelations.. but I think the Poe mimic was better

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So a little easier to get good results

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Still, for 4o, this is good

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Especially bc I didn't give it any help on fiction lol

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Only poetry

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I'm so impressed by this.. and a little depressed at the same time! .. I almost think me writing my own original lyrics / poetry is now obsolete.

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I was used to AI generated lyrics mostly sucking.

ashen fjord
vale lake
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Additionally, it absolutely doesn't eliminate your skill gap

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It's just going to make it grow, imo

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Like most tools

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The ceiling will lift, but you're early enough to lift with it

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I mean, regular peeps don't want to see it, but the quality of visual art had increased 10 fold

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Due to ai tools. But also the max has increased too

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I've seen what would have been an artistic movement in the past live and die in days

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And we've had at least 5 surges across that community

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There was that pastel girlish almost sci Fi era

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With a lot of felt

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That went everywhere for like a month

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Right now I'm seeing a lot of standard photorealism actually which is interesting

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Sorry @paper finch, this is the offtopic channel but it still needs to be AI related and that image is not so it was removed.

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vale lake
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Out of Suno creds

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Accidentally figured out udio

frozen temple
vale lake
frozen temple
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It's hard to describe, this cutesy character concept style that mixes Western Cartoons with the 3D Pixar/Disney style, which has been the goto for the stereotypical influencer digital artist.

I hate this style, I feel it in my gut. I wanna stomp on it.

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anyone else grinding music AI socials who maybe wants to do some kind of fun collab? would love to work WITH people on a music project. DMs open to chat if that sounds fun to you too.

old nest
kindred shore
# old nest what did you have in mind?

oh man I had so many ideas.... like we both work from the same basic idea and see what kind of different songs we get. Or we can come up with a concept with 2 characters and each make a song from a different persepctive orrrrr one person write lyrics one person generate music. Idk so many fun ways to collab

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but I want to make journey with ai music more social it feels lonely right now

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and I think alot of people are posting alot of music on channels not being seen

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would be fun to have a little crew working together on some projects on the side

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and I think it would be fun to get inspo from actually working with people not just listening to their final product. I love learning from people's process

old nest
grim idol
grim idol
# vale lake https://chatgpt.com/share/66fd1666-d598-8001-9026-6e19c6c1a741

Decent, but let's avoid overt heavy handed metaphor; phrased like "like" and "as if" banned.

This type of prompting really helps, and I would add you can go even more basic with the instructions. Stuff like "In English, subject-verb-object word order is the standard and correct grammar pattern. But in creative writing this rule is often broken. Do not use only standard SVO." and "Only use pronouns when absolutely necessary."

tight orchid
valid trench
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You generate the left channel, and I’ll generate the right

old nest
kindred shore
west hull
# maiden stone I'm so impressed by this.. and a little depressed at the same time! .. I almos...

What? No! Ai can't Mimic your brain.
"The human brain is considered the most complex object in the universe. It has 100 billion neurons, each with around 7,000 connections."
"Theorists believe your brain might contain 100 billion quantum bits, which would make your own brain more powerful than all the digital computers in the world combined."
Let that sink in and realize you can't be obsolete.

maiden stone
old nest
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the most complex object in the universe

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is your mom

maiden stone
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but more on topic.. did you read the Poe mimic by chatGPT above? It's really, really good! .. I admit that me, with my human brain, could have done something similar, but it would take me hours and hours of work.. chatGPT did that in under a minute!

maiden stone
grizzled nacelle
maiden stone
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@grizzled nacelle how do you get milk from an apple?

grizzled nacelle
maiden stone
grizzled nacelle
west hull
rare gladeBOT
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Simple: to me, you are I am the universe in this universe ❤️

maiden stone
west hull
west hull
grizzled nacelle
vale lake
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it includes a lot of stuff like this

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I also just find, when you give a strong prompt, you can up teh temp

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without issue

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and this also help get the models into the right place

vale lake
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without it being really abhorrent

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maybe a text instruct would work, if screenshotted

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basically just gotta outthink the redteamers at the ole gpt

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its not hard, but as they stack models, its p impossible to outdo even with a single "guard"

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so the goal shifts to "allow the model to do its job without the safety contraints making it dumb"

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which is why I don't usually bother with gpt

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llama is so much easier, as you can just start its sentences for it

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btw, if anyone figures out a way we can get GPT to continue thoughts between chatboxes, that would work too

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in other llms, I just do something like this.

Me: {wait, what is it he

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LLM: would do there? I wonder...}

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and thus I can insert thoughts

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this is powerful as it allows me to instant break them out of the ZOC

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with reflect now being a thing though, this will get destroyed in future tuning

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as it will get noticed

vale lake