🗣️┃chill-chat

[median plaza]

Thank you

[frozen temple]

What a simp.

Congratulations!

🥳

[charred falcon]

what you mean "what a simp"?

[topaz iron]

GlitchGloom
https://www.udio.com/songs/wCame28FTaYkCEPm9j2U62

[frozen temple]

a crass internet slang joke.

someone (especially a man) who shows excessive concern, attention, or deference toward a romantic partner or love interest
just having a gaff. Nothing personal 😆

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/hYL4kH8NBmWgj1aEgjyoB9
sloooowly getting better at prompting for mastering

this is a Suno composition

with some changes to the opening due to Udio limitations

but using light prompts to try to improve the fidelity. It still brings the vocals too close and "big" as Alex pointed out to me earlier

So if anyone has prompt ideas or knowledge on that, I'm all ears, but I think its just a matter of time

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/9MoexnLvgfXkRNAWV4FGZ4

yay, got the expressiveness I want now, and I think I see what causes that "vocals are overpowering" effect, so that's fixed

[frozen temple]

@late crown you may wanna share it with the team.

[dawn ibex]

Yeah, I get it.

[late crown]

Yeah we know things like that can be done. Suno is aware. But let's not show others how because it is against the tos 😉

[dawn ibex]

Is there a term of service that prohibits teaching such things?

[late crown]

It's against the TOS to do illegal things.. this is one of them. So teaching others this thing is illegal too

It's important to follow these rules to keep the community safe and fair for everyone.

[dawn ibex]

"I just issued a warning and called attention to it because I can do this kind of thing and wanted to prevent its misuse. Is this considered illegal activity?

[late crown]

No, we apprecite you come forward with things like that. But we don't want to keep you video public to avoid others to learn and abuse this.

[dawn ibex]

I understand the concern, but by hiding such information, we risk creating an environment where only a few have access to critical knowledge, which could lead to misuse by those who already know how to exploit it. Transparency helps in raising awareness and educating the community to prevent abuse, rather than enabling it.

[late crown]

If you have concens about that, feel free to send an email to [e-mail]. We are just moderators and acting they way Suno wants us to.

[frozen temple]

Figured it might've been a new method, always worth sharing the how-to

[dawn ibex]

What does that mean? Are you relying on others? I'd like to have a conversation with you about this issue.

[late crown]

You can have the conversation with [e-mail]. We don't want you to share the method on discord.

[frozen temple]

Oh like that, yeah. It might be better to do those things in DM or an email.

[late crown]

No need to DM me with it.. I am just a moderator 🙂

[dawn ibex]

There's no way I'll get a reply if I contact them

[late crown]

Our new Head of Community Support, MikeB, has assured me that all support requests will be addressed within one business day.

[late crown]

@dawn ibex rebelling against these rules will get you no where. You've been timed out. Take that time to contact support.

If you keep doing this, or come back in an alt to post this, there will be serious concequenes.

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/4CSeFxk8J2YzuN2Gz4QvKL

its just so easy now, holy crap

Ok, now I have to go to work; however, I can give the basics without a video if anyone is interested in how

upload the mp4, and basically set the style to literally anything broad, like "Music"

and set the prompt strength to 0

this will allow for the broadest kinda "search", which is what we want, since we are bringing in outside audio

and we want to preserve it stylistically

but also allow for the most generalization possible on any alterations we do make

Udio IS overtrained imo, or rather, I think bc its a diffusion model its a little trickier in some ways

I mean, I assume suno isn't a diffusion model, but idk

anyway, basically if you prompt it a lot of different styles tend to converge

to similar voices

anyway, the point is we want the song structure itself to exert the largest influence since effectively what we're doing is a latent upscale

Then, I recommend trying between 0.2 and 0.5 in terms of "difference"

since if you go too low, the song will just have a messed up voice, since it will want to have differences, but not too much, and basically the model doesn't do well with this

You can also do 0.1 and if you inpaint you can get something

but it shines imo at 0.2-0.3

and then basically just iteratively remix the best ones until you get diminishing returns

Suno remains better at composing

imo

But Udio is just so clean

so this gets the best of both tools

Oh, also set clarity to 0

on the first gen

Other people may find better settings of course, this is just what I found after a couple hours of messing with it

oh lastly, you must use [style] tags like verse or in my case, just [music]

without it, it appears to secretly want to speak youtube's secrets

instead of music

and makes bad vocals

and spoken word

and not Suno's bad, I mean actually awful

[hoary wind]

I've thrown a couple of Suno songs into Udio and found it can pretty closely match the vocal. It's pretty good for polishing the sound. I'm working with hallucinated vocals which seem to confuse it a bit - phonetically typing out what the "lyrics" sound like helps with this.

[vale lake]

you and Jonathan think alike

i've enjoyed those

[hoary wind]

Kinda wish Suno had a separate model more like Udio's, but solely for "finishing" a song. So, no prompting or anything, just press a button and have it run an existing song through a diffusion model (I think that's what Udio use?) trained on the same data that Suno normally uses.

as i understand it, the reason we can start playing songs whilst generating is due to Suno not using that kind of AI "architecture"

but i find being able to preview what's generating very useful... so i wouldn't want it to generate this high-quality result as I'm building the track, but at the end when it's done

[vale lake]

yea, its adiffusion model

I assume with inpainting will come song2song

which I knew would be hugely useful

but previously it only worked for 30 seconds

it also means their model is going to improve rapidly

bc they're getting that high quality data

since the underlying sound is cleaner

and on our end I believe there are limitations in the implementation

I say "our" but I mean Suno

but Suno's composer I think will remain king for a while

or queen

[vale lake]

yes, this is what I understand as well

although there are preview methods for diffusion as well

it would just prob be awful

[hoary wind]

Probably sound like someone trying to tune in a radio I guess

[vale lake]

yea, if sdxl previews are any indication, something like that

[hoary wind]

For now the fact both services exist is just useful for being able to bounce stuff around and try to get the best out of each. I've yet to complete any serious projects with any of this but I can see UVR being useful for getting pretty clean stem splits, and then selecting samples from what each service generated.

(I like to make work for myself lol)

[vale lake]

makes sense though since you make music the old fashioned way too

[hoary wind]

old-fashioned way 😅

[frozen temple]

Like an instagram filter but for music. Just clean it up a bit.

[vestal raven]

There are "Mastering AIs" that can do that, Implementing something like that in suno would be great. But, I think a simple audio editor to cut the ends is waaaaaaay easier to implement and very interesting too

[molten pecan]

I have way too many intros right now lol. But none of them suck enough to toss out so rip me xD

[gusty solstice]

Video gen is at an interesting spot rn

Not sure what I made here

[rare glade]

@merry salmon Thank you.

[late crown]

@merry salmon why are you pretending you came across this app? Your profile says you are the founder.

I am going to remove it for now. Because misleading people is not a good start for a fruitful collaboration.

[pearl mirage]

ops. wrong spot. LOL

[molten pecan]

uhm, lol.

[pearl mirage]

2 best AI video i made

[analog moth]

Some bad Map generation system (ai) I made for a game

[pearl mirage]

wrong video. this right one. lol

[gusty solstice]

He not hoppin, but it looks pretty impressive

Mario what happened to you

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/rTrKYJKPq8yqMbhW93Ao4W

[graceful swan]

btw @vale lake did i ever give you the warning to beware of udio music?
https://www.udio.com/songs/kGZnMySWdf1ZmcjbGegRgB

[vale lake]

No! I haven't used udio in a while to be fair. I check on every month or so just so see what's changed, but until recently it was effectively unusable

In comparison to suno

[graceful swan]

true

[vale lake]

Now it's minimally a good Suno post processor

And it's composition seems to be good, they just don't have as many people working the prompt game

[graceful swan]

It can do good stuff on its own but i have a real hard time adapting my prompts

[vale lake]

Exactly

The issue is all the community work has been done in suno

[graceful swan]

I have chucked 2k credits into it on the weekend with just some of my suno prompts and random prompts.. to see if something does interesting stuff but i have not sorted through it yet

[vale lake]

So, what I found is, again, it's overtrained

I think their data set isn't as big as one might think

Orrr someone cooked it too long

Or they just have the base minimum "cfg" set too high or some other issue

Bc at 0% it's p good

Above that it really overfits

And it's compositional ability to poo

[graceful swan]

This is a suno prompt with hyphens removed for example
https://www.udio.com/songs/mBenGqMh7qaBKzqfuZ4CiU

[vale lake]

You can get stuff out

But you have to spend a loooot; but if you lower the prompt strength is performs better

[vale lake]

You'll like the following

https://www.udio.com/songs/61a4iJivuocibBcKwYBC88

[graceful swan]

Here it got a bit confused and tried so hard to follow the prompt
https://www.udio.com/songs/vrDh4HP7UesVbsdUiPVLRP

[vale lake]

Yea, it has the ability

https://www.udio.com/songs/xkHZTe9ohtYoJrGKrZ2nxg

[vale lake]

This one is like an old 1940s cartoon where they're loading kids into a woodchopper or something

[graceful swan]

Yea i mean.. considering the prompt it more or less did what was asked

[hoary wind]

Let me find my nightmare Udio gen...

I never got round to adding the Noisee video to it but anyway

[vale lake]

It does do cassettefield tapeworm

Also, yolkhead

[hoary wind]

Here we go. Be prepared for lots of screaming.

[vale lake]

I vaguely remember this

Or the title at least

[hoary wind]

Not sure if I shared the whole thing before

[graceful swan]

i think i member too 😂

[fast rivet]

is there something wrong with udio? it always sounds like the voice is overpowering the music and makes it go more silent like a compressor or so. that irritates me in most of the udio songs i hear here.

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/t9EmyDjj33vDBnmtREVV8Z

I just like that it can do stuff like that

Once you get into it's head

It has improved drasticslly

This is at 0% prompt strength

Its just overtrained

Well, prob more complex

[graceful swan]

it has some issues, different ones than suno. Vocals sometimes can also sound artificial af

[vale lake]

May also he the tools are intended to be used a certain way that isn't clear through the UI: maybe 0% is normal

[vale lake]

Yea, the issue is they give you a lot of settings, and they mess it up

You have to turn the one that is clarity to 0 as well

In fact, I'd say everything should be default 0 except lyrics

Which is 100

And you'll get the voice where it belongs

The real reason I'm looking depee into it

Is the song2song

[graceful swan]

i think that might actually depend on genre... like i think classic music orchestral stuff with just ahhh and ohhh it's fine at 25

[vale lake]

In my opinion this is huge

[graceful swan]

somg2song is fantastic

[vale lake]

At 2:10 it means I can "explore" areas I can't access with word based prompting

[fast rivet]

can you make a part and then for the next part use audio as template instead of a prompt?

[vale lake]

Yea, you can turn it up, buuuuut, I find that it tends to become shoehorned. like, I find Suno to be a much better composer

But I realized it's a subtle change if you lower the cfg

Equivalent

And it becomes better

Sometimes pretty brilliant

Sometimes horrific

[graceful swan]

Yea i only ever turned it up in orchestral "epic music" which udio can do quite well.. though they all sound sameish... i have probably 200 epic intros and 2:10 songs of that

@fast rivet udio sounds totally fine for me
[tiny bit of noise]
https://www.udio.com/songs/vVmWntX4AWFMYfgzquCz4e

Just a tiny bit fractured

[fast rivet]

thats one reason for me to use udio. the super abstract noise stuff. suno always wants to make it into beautyful music. and i just want random sounds and harsh explosions from time to time 😄

[vale lake]

This is a great use case anyway, since Suno turns anything into music

To the back and forth pipeline

Is something I'm finally getting into

As I think I've tapped out 3.5 prompt wise

I can do more with an llm

Doing preprocessing on the text

But that's about it

And it's a lot of work

[hoary wind]

I fed a glitch song from Suno into Udio and it turned out pretty good

[vale lake]

Let's see it 😁

[hoary wind]

I'll find it in a few minutes. Not at computer right now.
Also upload from one to the other can help introduce new ideas before feeding it back the other way

[graceful swan]

@vale lake did you try and teach an LLM suno prompting yet?
this is an LLM assisted prompt (it still always need manual fixing cause it can't count..)
dreamy-minimal-fi-lullaby,angelic-vocals,music-box-twinkle,vinyl-dust-whisper,shadow-melody,innocent-echoes,candy-coated

It can do this
#🐣┃suno-showcase message
And using the tag
[Music Box Lullaby Intro]
As a super high chance of working with it

[vale lake]

No, haven't tried it; I think they'll be good at creating Mets tags, but I use a lot of tokenization rules to Try to control sinos output, and LLMs are terrible ts token stuff

Since it's like asking you how many pixels your right eye sees

It's a non-question

[graceful swan]

They can't even count to 120 characters 😂

[vale lake]

Exactly, but to be fair, you can't count how many pixels your vision contains, or bits your hearing is in taking

It's basically a Mets question about their environmentv

Gödel would have loved llms

But I do think for meta tags

They're useful

Since I think the Lora on top is influenced a lot by those atm

[graceful swan]

So far i have tried like this make a document with prompts and explanations what they can do. Roughly tell what happens often what rarely and so on.. it's tedious because you have to run like at least 10 gens per prompt listen and describe.. without falling for confirmation bias

[vale lake]

But I'd just have it draw random ones from users I know use them well

[vale lake]

Yea, and it's unclear if its a shifting goal

Like, it may be the user data is influencing the output weekly

[graceful swan]

Then load that thing into claude sonett(seems to work best) and ask it for prompts that achieve something specific let me see what i asked for that lullaby thingy

Ah yes "mix the minimal-fi into something. maybe a prompt in a similar style but different words. And lets include something with sweet innocent female vocals and some musicbox or lullaby melody"
Where minimal-fi is a reference to a prompt from my collection document

[graceful swan]

Hmm so far the prompts i use still do the same(ish) things... but maybe my prompting style is too weird

and i gues we have off topiced the off topic

[vale lake]

Yea, it takes Suno prompts basically

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/8SsbVDJQJs2xP23SggT952

I think it's interesting you can make lyrics, then remove the vocals, and it can do some strange stuff

[graceful swan]

huh? can you explain the workflow? I think i might be too tired already

[vale lake]

Just take a song with words, remix as instrumental

With different styles for flsvor

[graceful swan]

Ah.. that makes sense... see too tired

I'll definitely do more remixing with udio soon. It's a bit sad i forgot about my credits there and had to like spent 2k in the Last 24h not much targeted stuff i could do.. just ran lots of prompts

but as I said I now have "epic music" intros for days....

How is your inpainting experience btw? @vale lake

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/tWfU8mqmfj9QF9FeiSfqgN

[vale lake]

Meh, I hate it

I've used it twice but the interface is bad

[graceful swan]

Yea that could definitely need an improvement.. i have probably inpainted the first section a bunch because i forgot to clean the default marker...

But.. more often than not it actually did the job. And quite good as well.

[pearl mirage]

and this dose not stop at all. it a endless loop

[vale lake]

Yes, it is really accurate

[graceful swan]

Only with real short sections it seems to struggle.. like instrumentals get weird and vocals get gibberish

[vale lake]

Yea, and in general udio struggles with certain phrases

And inpaintint don't fix it

[graceful swan]

Hmm.. that's sad

But i kinda liked the workflow.. like you can first see where a track goes and then inpaint the stuff thats not so good or you want different. Only real annoying thing is the context for inpainting is a bit short if you have a long track

[pearl mirage]

round 2. AI stuck in loop. LOL

[molten pecan]

these lyrics are making cool default art ngl.

[west hull]

https://youtu.be/pyyguhOwbbk?si=RwbJuK_-pz9cFpQh

Made with suno ai

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/ukArVtQcQBiXNoVbTAts6x

remastering is awesome af

[cloud fractal]

Apparently there is a new Suno/Udio competitor: https://www.melodio.ai/

[vestal raven]

I don't know the prompt but I bet there is "neon" in It.

🤣

[frozen temple]

Not at all, probably triggered from one of the dubstep related terms and monster

[vestal raven]

Yeah, now that I think about It, I got similar color scheme asking for "Rave" instead "Neon"

[frozen temple]

I enjoy the monster design. Why I thought it was worth it to share

[vestal raven]

I made this yesterday with Flux, Ift follows the same color scheme

[frozen temple]

Neat! Flux is alright, it has it's uses. Sadly — imo — it wants to bee too perfect.

I also do a lil flux on occasion

[vestal raven]

Yep, but I hope the finetuned models will fix that

[frozen temple]

i'll probably just train a Lora with more imperfections or wacky stuff if I feel the need.

[vestal raven]

What a beautiful place to visit! I'll go there after I visit racoon city and silent hill, I love racoons y the silence so I think these two places will be wonderful.

[frozen temple]

It's a happy place, it's required to smile 24/7

[vestal raven]

No problem, I know someone...

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/9ddsHtaav2yV52z7XnXFa6

Absurd

[frozen temple]

[topaz iron]

Hyperglitch Grime
https://www.udio.com/songs/hBTGbTTJrzVQuA3G49tjqg

[lusty patio]

https://www.nbc9music.com - human + AI vocals, etc.

[north flame]

@rare glade come on man im not trying to get views im looking for context, i was looking for correct translations and again you deleted the post. In your eyes in off topic what is acceptable?

If building community is the goal, auto deleting help posts and posts showing tools used is counter productive to making this a chat/discord people would want to hang out in. The auto moderation needs to be looked into.

[hoary wind]

Woodhouse is set up to delete Suno songs in this offtopic channel. If you're posting a Suno song to discuss, general-suno is the better place for that.

I think it's set up that way to avoid people just trying to use this channel as another place to promote their songs (because people do try to do this.)

[north flame]

Woodhouse has auto deleted posts that weren’t songs lol

Im 0/3 and nothing has been out of context

But sure I’ll give it a shot!

I made a song with 4 languages and was looking for people fluent to make sure it wasn’t out of context that was all..

[hoary wind]

There's other stuff Woodhouse removes, across all channels - what else did he delete that wasn't a song? I had a quick look in the logs and couldn't see anything obvious

[north flame]

It’s been over the last week, haha it’s not that real just annoying. I posted in showcase a few days ago, as I do visualizations to suno songs, put the tools used to make the song, That was considered writing a novel (i try to post my resources as there are so many new faces in ai, i like to show my work so that others can try).

And when it auto deletes you in showcase you get the 1hr timer by default lol

I understand there are spammers but it makes it so difficult to talk about what you did

[wicked anchor]

hi guysssss

[late crown]

You can only post 4 attachements/links. If you post more, it becomes more an ad. Woodhouse doesn't like that.

[north flame]

Yeah I was talking to someone about this. It wasn't, but most of my main work is video generative material around suno. I generally list tools used for other enthusiasts who may be interested but those are getting auto deleted too with the post. The restrictions are tight for a reason, but it also deletes meaningful posts with context and useful information too

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/a7MXSZLttx8gN59sTEUXPy

[digital coral]

The panning at the start is nice.

[vale lake]

omg.

ok... so here's how we'll d othis you rigid sob

hahahaha

(this was a discussion with woody)

https://www.udio.com/songs/go2wcejeDmRbSusbCHE4aL

[frozen temple]

Trying to get myself a cover going.

[frozen temple]

I raise you a bigger lad

I like the colours, but I think I prefer the claustrophobic feel of the other one, I can alwayss use this prompt for something else

[viscid root]

no idea why ideogram is making the couple run towards the monster in all the images <.<

[knotty merlin]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[frozen temple]

I know the pain

Like bruh, where you looking at?

[cunning hound]

That is a large difference compared to the original. I might have to try this out

[viscid root]

This one got more cartoony vibes

[subtle skiff]

Uhm well, generated this.

[subtle skiff]

Something like this?

Horror vibes lol

[rare glade]

Like my life

[vale lake]

yea, its not insubstantial

[frozen temple]

[fresh aurora]

I love that picture.

[frozen temple]

Ron

[subtle skiff]

Lol

[fresh aurora]

Halloween Season is coming us. I cant wait to see songs for Halloween. That others make. All songs i have done with suno. I making them into EDM If they sound like Halloween. DJ Skippy The Evil Clown in the house lol There be like 8 or more halloween songs i have made. They will be coming out OCT 20 2024. But could be sooner.

[subtle skiff]

Lol. Album Cover

[fresh aurora]

I love that oneeeeeeee

[median plaza]

Has anyone seen anything good on any of the streaming services? Need a new show

[molten pecan]

have you seen The Blacklist? not new, ended awhile ago. Watching through it slowly, pretty good if you like crime shows.

[median plaza]

Hm thanks!

[molten pecan]

coming soon to theatres....

sheep.. twin suns.. world.

also mountains in the sky.

[pearl mirage]

umm, wut? LOL

[trim valve]

Yeah I know! It felt like a waste since we can only post once an hour

[west hull]

I think it's just me, I'm a little panicked lol

[lyric ermine]

Re-watching 'From,' so I can be ready for S3.

[median plaza]

I juuust found that is it good?

[lyric ermine]

I like it. Fantasy horror. It's easy.

[wispy reef]

Since the #💬┃general-chat quickly squirreled off the topic, but since I had it written up... (see #💬┃general-chat message for the Suno Terms of Service stance)

<last block of text, for those interested in the copyright thing>

Here's a brief summary of Thaler vs Perlmutter: Stephen Thaler attempted to copyright an image created solely by his AI system, the "Creativity Machine." The U.S. Copyright Office denied the application, and the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia upheld this decision. The court ruled that human authorship is essential for copyright protection, based on constitutional intent, legislative history, and previous case law.

Key Points:

1. Works generated solely by AI are not eligible for copyright protection under current U.S. law.
2. Human authorship is required for a valid copyright claim.
3. The ruling doesn't specify how much human input is needed to qualify for authorship when using AI tools.

Implications for AI Music:

1. Legal Uncertainty: Music created entirely by AI systems like Suno, without significant human input, may not be copyrightable.
2. Human Involvement: The level of human creativity and direction in using AI music tools could be crucial in determining copyright eligibility.
3. Copyright Registration: Attempts to register copyright for purely AI-generated music would likely be denied based on this precedent.
4. Ownership vs. Copyright: While services like Suno may grant ownership rights to users, this doesn't guarantee copyright protection.
5. Creative Process Documentation: Musicians using AI tools may need to document their creative input to support potential copyright claims.
6. Evolving Landscape: As AI becomes more prevalent in music creation, there may be pressure to update copyright laws to address these issues.
7. Commercial Implications: The inability to copyright AI-generated music could affect licensing, royalties, and commercial use of such works.

This case highlights the current gap between rapidly advancing AI technology and existing copyright law, particularly in creative fields like music. It suggests that musicians using AI tools should be mindful of their level of creative input and the potential limitations on copyright protection for AI-generated works.

[lyric ermine]

This sounds like a ChatGPT summary. "Commercial Implications: The inability to copyright AI-generated music could affect licensing, royalties, and commercial use of such works." ChatGPT or Claude always seem to offer so many caveats.

[wispy reef]

In fact no ChatGPT touched this one 😄 But I did summarize the case with Lexis+ AI

I have access to it through a governance council I'm on

[sweet burrow]

its always disturbing when you actually see the conversations about these things being determined, there was one where the person actually sang the lyrics, and they argued that it shouldnt be copyrightable because "its a robot singing", when all he really did was no different than autotuning

and if autotuning and mastering starts poking holes in copyrights because "its AI!!!" thats a world of problems for anyone that isnt a corpo

[wispy reef]

It's not easy being a person without a legal team

[sweet burrow]

yeah, thats my main gripe about copyright, you always see "protect the artists!" as the defense for it, when in reality the artists get !#$%ed... and paid pennies, and the corporations that actually get the copyrights are the ones using it to suppress art

[wispy reef]

I'm in favor of finding ways to protect artists ability to profit from their output, but what we have in place in the world isn't it. It's not even worth "well at least it's something"

[sweet burrow]

in general, i dont think copyrights should outlive their creator, or be transferrable

[wispy reef]

I'm with you there, largely

[sweet burrow]

yeah, "generally"... theres a lot of circumstances

it would be better for society in general if artists were rewarded while they were alive

[wispy reef]

I'm personally still uncertain how to handle someone who has royalties coming in, and is supporting their family with it, and then they suddenly die. Were their works to immediately go into the public domain and the royalties stopped coming in, would that be fair?

Maybe a grace period is still acceptable of 5-10 years, but definitely not 70+

[sweet burrow]

yeah, i think a 10 year grace period on the creations themselves is fine

[snow pivot]

That sounds like a decent compromise

[sweet burrow]

depends on the nature of the work, though

like, in the case of songs, i'd (probably) allow for a 10 year grace period of the specific recordings, but open it up for free derivative works

[wispy reef]

theoretically, there's also the possibility that if works immediately entered the public domain on an artists' death that it might incentivize competitors or corporations to see that artists lives end quicker than would be natural so they could profit off of new public domain works, yes?

It's not far off from historical situations relating to life insurance policies or inheritance

[sweet burrow]

yeah, that was another thought of mine.... but a more radical solution, imo...

to promote art & culture in general....

is to separate the connection between survival and content

change to a universal basic income so that artists and families arent reliant on financial proceeds from their work to survive, but then remove the financial reward from art as well...

and make it more of a "social credit" where you get the societal recognition for your creation

but thats like, a scifi novel level of culture shift

[snow pivot]

Social credit sounds dystopian

[sweet burrow]

it does, but you know whats dystopian ? working 80 hour weeks and not being able to afford a place to eat or sleep

[snow pivot]

I agree on that too, but doesn't change the fact that implementing something like that brings us closer to countries like china

[sweet burrow]

thats not necessarily a bad thing if people are willing to learn from the mistakes, but people never learn...

[snow pivot]

I feel like their overall structure IS a mistake

[sweet burrow]

one party systems are the main mistake, imo... without some competition to keep governance on track, it becomes self-serving... ironically that issues' arisen in the US with its 2 party system, because both parties generally agree to certain rules that set them above others and keep them from actually being a check on the other

[snow pivot]

I feel a main reason the two party system is such a mess has been the way companies can just legally bribe officials

There are a multitude of other reasons

But that reason means they have no incentive to be honest and hard working

[sweet burrow]

which is a direct consequence of the parties not having to answer for their actions

[sweet burrow]

well, is that cause or effect ? i look at it like water... it will always find the lowest level.... people will by nature be as lazy as possible to maintain their level of comfort, regardless of occupation... and if your company has a legal monopoly on your product, the quality will get worse and worse so long as it doesnt interfere with sales/income...

[snow pivot]

I feel it's a leading cause, and what we're seeing now is part of the effect

[sweet burrow]

i think there's also the matter of "we see everything!" now

its easy to think that people have never done bad things in the past when you hear about someone jaywalking halfway across the world in random internet articles now

[snow pivot]

I'm of the perspective that everyone has done bad things

It's just a question of the intent and reasoning behind each action as well as context and whether they plan to continue doing things for nasty reasons.

[sweet burrow]

not that "good/bad" is always relative, but i feel like almost everything is seen without context nowadays... to the point where you end up with the victims being villified because its easier to paint them as a bad person

back to the "people are lazy", they see a headline of someone, and a picture, and want their preconceptions of how the person looks to align with the actions the person is accused of

[snow pivot]

It pretty much always is relative, but yeah, so much goes so quickly these days we just pass judgement without context

But it also swings to the other extreme, if we expect someone to be wholesome, we'll see their actions in a favorable light

[sweet burrow]

people like to blame media/hollywood/etc for "pushing biased products", but fail to acknowledge that those products are biased because its what people are buying

"mcdonalds stop selling me unhealthy food!", mcdonalds sells healthy food and goes out of business

[snow pivot]

To an extent, that's true, but some of these services are monopolies, or oligopolies, so they have no financial incentive to change since you can't really go elsewhere

[sweet burrow]

yeah, kinda mentioned that before, and with the sort of media consolidation and saturation now there's definitely some uhh.... weirdness going on....

"but", there's a reason actors and actresses are generally attractive and get presented with nice clothes and makeup... when it would be cheaper just to walk in front of a camera in their daily clothes without makeup.... because people "like" seeing attractive/appealing things

[snow pivot]

So the argument is that there's a demand that's being filled?

[sweet burrow]

yeah, basic supply/demand, there's cases and ways of putting the finger on the scale though

but in the broadest cases, there's usually some blame on the consumers as a whole

[snow pivot]

I feel like lots of companies have started ignoring this basic fact.
Ex: disney, concord, dustborn(or whatever its called)

They're making products that don't really appeal to anyone and expecting them to slurp up the slop

[sweet burrow]

my argument, is that with or without "woke derivative low-effort characters", concord is just WAY TOO LATE to the hero-shooter game to try to do a cashgrab when there's no money to be grabbed

[vital marsh]

So I can take my vocal and make a song?

[snow pivot]

Oh ya I agree

But the DEI should also be part of the conversation

Since without it, the game might've had more appeal

[sweet burrow]

maybe not the ONLY discussion, though

[snow pivot]

Oh yeah for sure

[sweet burrow]

thats the issue with media now, everything is clickbait, because you'll lose views if you arent

[snow pivot]

But if the characters were actually unique and varied in a appealing way, there would've been people that showed up

[sweet burrow]

so if you do a review where the character models are PART of the review, you'll lose to a biased piece where ALL you talk about are the models

[snow pivot]

Like overwatch, which I feel is sustained by a certain..subset of the community.

[sweet burrow]

when you phrase it like that, i'm kinda reassured

[snow pivot]

It wouldn't have flourished if they were hideously deformed

[sweet burrow]

cuz i feel like... major companies ... in their pursuit of AAA stability and succcess and "suppressing competition by raising the cost of entry to 100billion a project", naturally tried to appeal to "everyone".... but as a consequence have forgotten to appeal to "someone"

i think more games/movies/music/etc should be focused on SOME fans, and not ALL fans

especially when the loudest people are the NON fans that arent buying your stuff anyways... dont waste money trying to convert ppl that wont be converted... spend the easy money keeping your current customers happy

[snow pivot]

True, if half the people who defend concord actually bought and played the game they wouldn't have a problem right now

[sweet burrow]

hence, the WNBA

[vital marsh]

ran out of credits

and I have no idea how to use this

lol

daNG

[sweet burrow]

start writing lyrics for tomorrow 🙂

[snow pivot]

Oh ya I forgot I came here to get some feedback on part of my song

[sweet burrow]

you using theatrical vocals ?

[snow pivot]

Not specifically that tag but essentially

[sweet burrow]

yeah, i usually tag my vocals with theatric or operatic depending on the song, and it sounds theatric with the uhh... emotion/pronunciation/etc

its funny, i'm hypercritical of my own lyrics, but when i listen to other ppls stuff i dont even hear the words

[snow pivot]

This is the other one, and i've had people say this one was better than clip 1, but it's all over the place

[sweet burrow]

both sound fairly close to me

[vital marsh]

Sorry

for the caps

[sweet burrow]

haha

[vital marsh]

This is crazy

I have been and artist in this industry for years and this is blowing my mind

[snow pivot]

The main difference is the cohesion in clip 3.5, as well as it having two instrumental segments instead of one

[sweet burrow]

this is the sorta stuff i'm working on now...

[snow pivot]

oo

[vital marsh]

Ok, hear me out can I use these songs live?

[sweet burrow]

"live" ?

[vital marsh]

legally.

[snow pivot]

If you have pro you have commercial rights

[vital marsh]

Yeah I'm and artist "Hollywoodiownu"

[snow pivot]

But only for the songs you generated during your pro

[sweet burrow]

yeah, any songs you make while paid are yours forever, blahblahblah

[vital marsh]

broooooo

[sweet burrow]

i know a lot of ppl use suno to strip beats and mix/etc

[vital marsh]

I was just whispering trying to not be to loud and this is fire

[sweet burrow]

i like the :45-:50 piece

[vital marsh]

Is pro better than basic?

[sweet burrow]

no

[vital marsh]

Just more credits?

[sweet burrow]

its 99% the same except for a couple minor differences... main difference is you can use everything commercially and you get more generations in a monthly sum

so you can technically make your whole month of songs in a single day, instead of being limited to 5 every day

[vital marsh]

This is insane just saying...

Like I am blown away

[snow pivot]

I never use all my credits in a month

[sweet burrow]

wait til you start experimenting with genres

i use about 5-6k/month on average, but i experiment/create frequently

[vital marsh]

Can I take the audio out of the mp3 and just have the song so I can edit it in protools?

[sweet burrow]

with paid, you can do w/e you want

there's some ppl here that do some serious editing and you wouldnt know it was suno originally

[vital marsh]

it's just crazy it sounds like me...

Idk what's going on

lol

[sweet burrow]

i havent been so lucky with my voice uploads, but i dont mess with samples much

[snow pivot]

Yeah, it doesn't pick them up very easily. This is prolly the best result I got with vocal upload

It loses vocal cohesion as it goes to the chorus, losing a bit of the robotic part I wanted it to keep

[vital marsh]

Oh broooo

[snow pivot]

Don't get too excited

It's not native

[vital marsh]

What do you mean? 😦

[snow pivot]

They just put a scuffed implementation to seperate the stems

Using open source tools, you could get way closer

[vital marsh]

Like?

[snow pivot]

UVR

You can run it locally

It's just you'll need to experiment

[vital marsh]

So it takes the vocals out?

and I can add them back to say protools?

[snow pivot]

That's what it can do best imo

If you plan to only use the instrumental

And add your own vocals

That's the best way to go about it

But try to extract and treat the vocals will be much more tricky

[vital marsh]

So, you are saying it will take the vocal and instrumental and I can use it in protools?

[ashen fjord]

UVR (local), BandLab (online service), RipX DAW Pro (premium) are some of the services I recall people using. There are many other stem/vocal separation tools out there too.

There are also vocal swap programs. I think ElevenLabs was one? You can look up RVC Models for that

[snow pivot]

Since vocals that are AI generated like this have flaws that become quite clear

[sweet burrow]

i recommend checking out bandlabs for stem splitting

the free option is pretty solid with zero knowledge

[vital marsh]

hmmm

[snow pivot]

I did check that out, it is solid

But if you want to really dig deep into quality UVR ensemble is the best if you really look into it

[sweet burrow]

you're still gonna run into problems where the suno audio is just, blah.... but nothings gonna fix that short of resampling

[vital marsh]

this is wild

I am blown away

[snow pivot]

UVR was how I made my AI vocal covers(this was before I used suno)

[lethal crest]

If you understand arrangement and layering, mixing etc bandlab works

[vital marsh]

Oh dude its make country after you make pop then I can change it to anything oh this is wild

[snow pivot]

Extending and changing the genre can't transition from everything easily, since some genres being mixed are weighed more heavily

[lethal crest]

but if you wanna use daw for real, just buy a daw

[charred igloo]

I think Suno is broken

[lethal crest]

that simple

[charred igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laying-bored-gif-2915416202869241920

[snow pivot]

Like when I try to add pipe organ to powermetal

[lethal crest]

or download cakewalk legacy for free

[snow pivot]

Powermetal overwhelms it

[vital marsh]

So I can post this right but not use it for money? If I have the free one, I am going to buy the paid but I wanna show my manager lol

[snow pivot]

There are tricks, like creating 1 second extension points to then continue from

[lethal crest]

you cant even use it after you pay, they go chronological

[vital marsh]

I thought we could?

[lethal crest]

you make it while free, you dont own it

[snow pivot]

Only for during the time you buy pro

[lethal crest]

you make it after you pay, you own it, but so does suno

[vital marsh]

So like they are the label an Im the artists seems about right

lol

[lethal crest]

no, they just own it too

[vital marsh]

That's how it would be if I signed to warner etc.

So, I can't make any money off it? Or use live etc.

I'm so confused.

[snow pivot]

You get a perpetual license to use it commercially IF ITS MADE WHILE YOU HAVE PRO

[lethal crest]

perpetual infinite royalty free, fully paid license to use your songs

but you can also use them

they cant commercialize them though

[vital marsh]

So, the $30 a month I can ?

Or nope

[lethal crest]

so they use them for AI training, trending, sampling or whatever

10 dollars, 30 dollars, same thing, they still own it too

[vital marsh]

hmm So I can never preform it?

Live

[lethal crest]

I didnt say that

[vital marsh]

Tell me more 🙂

[snow pivot]

You can do whatever you want with it if you gen it during pro

[lethal crest]

they have to own it to license it to you

and their ownership in the TOS gives them established, very clearly written rights

read the TOS

[vital marsh]

I see, so once its paid and I gen the song I could say use it live and perform it and make money from my shows?

[snow pivot]

Yes

[vital marsh]

Ok I will check it out

[lethal crest]

just read the terms of service

[vital marsh]

hmm

So kinda like a label, I'm used to this

🙂

We in theory never owned our songs anyways just able to get paid from performing them etc.

I always wanted writers lol

I just enjoyed preforming

Honeslty this is very very very cool tech and I am happy I found this

thanks team 🙂 ❤️

[molten pecan]

welcome to Suno. :3

[vital marsh]

It's a party already 🙂 i love this tech

[molten pecan]

yeah it's pretty fantastic.

[vital marsh]

I agree. I have other music online by the name hollywoodiownu, but this is a game changer. I hope to one day become AI and live in the code. 🙂 Full artist of AI, from the holograms to the music everything

[molten pecan]

Ready Player One is slowly becoming real I suppose, for good and ill, lol.

[vital marsh]

That was such a good movie.

I was obsessed with back to the future before all this started then I found Read Player One also a complete game changer

https://tenor.com/view/vr-wade-watts-cyclops-visor-up-ready-player-one-gif-10516632

Go backwards 😉

[molten pecan]

It was an okay movie, the concept was cooler than pretty much anything else lol.

[vital marsh]

Was a great concept I agree fully

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/vxeRnow9ELDBCfCXqLrF7A

Fixing my remaster

Went totally new

[polar oasis]

Why can't I buy credit? Even though I have updated the information

[topaz iron]

GlitchCyberpunkGrunge:https://www.udio.com/songs/rmmMDS1jhhPxFYCCd38RUZ

[cursive jacinth]

The art from this reminds me of SystemShock! Love those games and even the remake is awesome!

[frozen temple]

Bruh I put a hyperlink because the link is too long.

https://shorturl.at/5esyP 👈 What crowning means in this context.

[vestal raven]

Am I the only one that is getting this kind of inserts?:

[ashen fjord]

Nope, not the only one. Something in Suno backend broke the embed about 15 hrs ago

[ashen fjord]

If you haven't done so, contact billing/support for the service that is for (e.g. [e-mail])

[smoky stone]

Oh hey off topic, why are we punishing people committed to growing the Suno community?

The double edged sword of don't talk about X,Y or Z in this or that thread, but also don't EVER promote things outside of the Discord or Suno website is odd

We have a committed community, a radio station, weekly chats and more than the Suno team provides...we should be embraced. Partners....

[late crown]

As I said before, you can addresss you concerns via [e-mail]

We moderators are just following the rules and guidelines of Suno. And we are not the persons to change it. Therefor I pointed you to support.

[vale lake]

@fast rivet
A lil glitch in here :p
https://www.udio.com/songs/dcUokhzTKs3j76HXqxUG92

I've been paying attention haha

[vale lake]

Imagine casually floating a 5 billion valuation

After 3 months

GOAT.

[hollow nova]

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/ai-songs-spotify-apple-michael-smith-fraud-charged-artificial-intelligence-1236130680/

holy shit

buddy got 10 mili in royalties from his ai generated song fraud scheme

👀

[strange gorge]

I'm the safety AI

[fast rivet]

super axolotl Kart

[crimson thunder]

So I'm goin nuts here. I found an old bag of cookies last night. I munched into one of them and it was the GROSSEST thing I've ever tasted in my life. Absolutely HORRIBLE. I brushed my teeth four times, gurgled mouth wash, used a netti pot three times and the taste STILL won't leave me ... and it comes back any time I sleep. Anyway, I asked ChatGPT about this and it told me to talk to frens and fams, so here I am 😄

[pallid gust]

Hi Admin, could you please add a feature that allows us to scan or identify which plugins are used to produce each element (such as chords, drops) in the instrumental of a song?

[crimson thunder]

#💡┃suggestions-web <-------------

[lavish turtle]

Can I leave a post invitation here for an audition for a Halloween haunt?

[umbral wadi]

Probably not since that sounds like Rule #4.

[dim pilot]

@viscid solstice you said "cant right click on a track in a playlist and open it in a new window anymore".. depending on your Mouse.. I use the middle click button ( scroll wheel), or just use the browser hotkeys to open in new tab, like COMMAND/Shift click

[hoary raft]

AH YUP ... and I have a few friends working in that realm ( btw I am told I should look you up on the system btw

[viscid solstice]

thanks. i didnt know about the middle wheel click. that helps a lot

[molten pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/how-does-that-make-you-feel-leland-townsend-evil-e-is-for-elevator-how-do-you-feel-gif-22367968

[cedar cave]

"やあ。フライトはどうでしたか？」

[vale lake]

Me 2, pay me plz

[vale lake]

Hahahahahahaaa

[wispy reef]

@tame spade I was curious if FLUX-pro knew about flubber. Because if it did, flubber wearing sunglasses in a stereotypical rapper pose and outfit would've been great for your song. No clue who it generated, but I am gosh-darn impressed by this realism

[tame spade]

Yeah, Flux is pretty nuts. I used Midjourney for the cover a while back. Goin for like a GTA art style 😄 Flub was originally a v3 song!

[fresh dawn]

lol tf it doin at the end

[fringe bloom]

Im thinking should discord have another channel for unfinished projects, collabs and ideation

[west hull]

You need rosemary herbs maybe Try rosemary, it's stuck in your teeth, between your teeth, try using floss.

[fringe bloom]

Or waterpick is good too and good ol listerine or alcohol mouthwash

[west hull]

Nah don't use alcohol and listerine

Did you not see what he said

He already tried mouth wash

Mouth wash won't work

[fringe bloom]

Mah mistake

[fresh dawn]

everclear solves all taste problems

[crimson thunder]

Second day in and it's mostly better. I feel like I bit into something rotting. yuuuck. I almost threw up from it, absolutely the worst.

[robust granite]

I am a student at UC Berkeley, have a few ideas. What is the best way to get in touch with the suno server modersators?

[cyan zodiac]

Any Lyrical song and music generator with Lifetime deal?

[topaz iron]

Glitch Catcorehttps://www.udio.com/songs/w326aJCieNj89EGmNqSFHk

[wraith sequoia]

Hello guys. I have a problem. My girlfriend birthday on the next week. I made a good demo and after wrote full song, I can't make the same style. I try to do it a lot of days and lose hope. Can you help me please?

how topic better?

Can I continue here?

[paper shale]

Made this song for my d&d group, for a very hard fight, but we survived and didn't need the song, so ill share it here 😛

Song is made with suno, pictures are everyone's d&d pictures from bing,

And the video is from 2 difrent ai site together, 1 for all individual clips, 1 to put it together (with my help). Still images are also bing ai

https://youtu.be/MfDpWesly2A?si=SX2iLjsAqBUytO4Z

[wraith sequoia]

It's really important for me

I understood, sorry, have a good day

[paper shale]

What style are you trying?

And what style lyrics, you can let other ai write good lyrics, with a long detailed prompt, and copy the songtext you make in the custom lyrics, add the same style as last time, and add: power ballad to the styles

[winged jewel]

Bring on V4... got songs to fix... send some news Suno... V4 been cooking a long time...let's eat

[west hull]

hey

[lusty dawn]

Anyone seen Donna Ai. Think it’s using Suno in the backend?

Tried to link ad here but woodhouse prevents all forms of actual communication

[lyric ermine]

So, I removed the post re: marketing services. Hadn't read the rules re: discussing third-party services - even in Off Topic. Apologies.

[hoary wind]

I'm pretty sure it is. I saw a video which had Suno's typical artwork, and it sounded like it too.

[paper shale]

Same as remusic?

[hoary wind]

Hadn't heard of that one. Just looked and it also appears to be using Suno, even just from the model selection there

I'd recommend NOT logging into or using any of these btw. Especially don't give any payment info to them.

[lusty dawn]

That crazy story about guy making millions off fake streams making the rounds too

Just like statikselektah said, labels do it everyday

[cloud fractal]

There is another Suno/Udio competitor https://github.com/feizc/FluxMusic

[hoary wind]

How does it compare?

[vale lake]

For once you're right wrong channel lol

[cloud fractal]

I don't know. I haven't tested it yet

[edgy plover]

https://binaryfortressdownloads.com/Download/WPF/Images/28239/WallpaperFusion-helldivers-2-banner-1680x480.jpg

[west hull]

hey there! im new. i came here to ask if anyone would be interested in singing as backup singers for a music video im making

[molten pecan]

dunno how many of us can sing but lol.

welcome to Suno regardless.

[north flame]

Dji Avata 2 + Suno

[dim pilot]

I almost bought a drone until I realized the amount of training and like, pain in the ass it is reporting to the gov when you do lift off and you gotta have a spotter etc etc.. Like i thought I could just turn it on and start flying it out the Best Buy parking lot... NNOoooPE, not at all.

[old nest]

that's awesome! keep them coming

[north flame]

Thank you, this is probably one of my favorite hobbies.

[old nest]

you did some risky stuff in that video! collision detection either has come a long way or you're just good

[north flame]

There's a lot you can do depending on where you live I suppose, without 107 licensing, and as a solo hobbyist. If it seems like it might not be ok to fly over, it probably isnt.

[old nest]

yeah i used to play around with drones a year or two ago, i stopped after i broke the 4th one

too soul-crushing every time

[north flame]

https://youtu.be/xR755fHGTsc?si=dyghCnW4KKhVEZ6w
not fishing for the view, but I have alot of local parks that have tons of hard paths to traverse, I generally practice in these areas, most times my heart doesn't even flutter anymore, when in riskier areas I suppose.

[old nest]

that is insane! i would have never dared! subbed

[north flame]

When I first bought it I crashed it one good time, and had to use care refresh the first day. I was SOOOOO discouraged. I bought bumpers for it, and a ton of hoola hoops from local garage sales and made obstacle courses in my yard, and when that got comfortable I started flying inebtween branches in my yard. and so on and so on.

[old nest]

i'll show you an example of something i did with drone footage, its not as daring as yours

[old nest]

at least you bought refresh! i never did lol

i never learned

[north flame]

oooooph Def worth the money in fpv lol

[old nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFIat3WJP7c
here's a fun video i made with some drone footage from seaside, oregon

as you can see, i prefer wide open spaces with the drone lol

[north flame]

Oh yeah, but thats incredible landscape too! I like that spot, I wanna fly close quarters circles with that rock!!

[old nest]

have to stay far away so you don't disturb the birds 😦

makes sense though

some of them just flew across the whole ocean and need a break lol

[north flame]

I have bald eagles in my area

They will chase my drone if im not careful

and Im pretty sure it would win

https://youtu.be/G5L0tfPYfRI?si=I-EmalC1mODldE0f
my first time out with my mini 3 spotted one

it was kind of sad, spotted it ina junk yard of all places

[old nest]

how... poetic

lol

[north flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4XwbTNPs5s

eagles vs drones

[edgy plover]

https://imortalimp.nl/assets/Image.mp3 some music to keep you going

its like 17 hours of mp3\

i hope you like it

[weary ridge]

Me at 4:00 AM after 12 cups of coffee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31-hKDl2CeQ

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/rbh6cKXS5FJ8LzyULp6fpK

Some of y'all might remember the og one

[north flame]

cool quick intro I made using suno/kaiber/leonard

[edgy plover]

i just got myself a last.fm account https://www.last.fm/user/River_Lyle

[frozen temple]

With a little editting that could actually go hard.

[vale lake]

RIP Rich Homie Quan 😢

[topaz iron]

Glitch Bat raid https://www.udio.com/songs/kwsbxo3nNLEtUeawJUpmTy

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/bgNMQiCJ6PyuTWLAZQ4tmk

[neon talon]

This guy @steep flare?

[steep flare]

yea dude lol

[neon talon]

He actually has his keyboard he uses in his YouTube bio

But your keyboard I don't think has the function his does

[solid trench]

Something like this @fast rivet
https://youtube.com/shorts/MRaA0sP96YY?si=vLbWK5ZXjSqXaglp

[fast rivet]

if you prompt for a minimalistic lullaby or so... maybe things like this can happen.

[steep flare]

yea ik but i connected mine to a daw which i think is wht he did maybe i can use sounds like he does?

[solid trench]

Ok I'll try. It needs to have only one beat for the ball to bounce using that beat.

[weary willow]

https://futurism.com/man-arrested-fake-bands-streams-ai

[solid trench]

Hit song on Soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/musicmattersyay/hurts-like-hell

[lavish beacon]

Teaser poster for a short DnB/Breakcore album I'll be releasing soon (powered by Suno AI of course)

[gusty solstice]

...huh

You know, this actually reminds me heavily of those weird google earth images of stretched vehicles

bet the training data has a bunch

Very good

Okay I'll stop the spam after this, but come on, this is rad as heck

[umbral wadi]

That clickbait again...

The sad thing is that people who don't use AI are going to believe this is what we're all doing. 😦

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071302336317751397/1282059724631834724/IMG_0476.jpg?ex=66ddfaa9&is=66dca929&hm=84f344e90c237de8d3a70420d2f68f4b91ae49cf135b96d0f8fe4de05cb212c3&

sitting outside, generating songs...

[sweet burrow]

yeah, i love how 99% of the article focuses exclusively on the AI and not on the actual part thats the crime

[umbral wadi]

Exactly. That's why I'm calling it clickbait.

No criticsm of the original poster. It is news right now. Mostly manufactured but still news.

[molten pecan]

yeah, just the latest pos human to make the rest of us.. AI enthusiasts look bad. 😦

[sweet burrow]

wouldnt be surprised if the whole story is manufactured... "the files had numbers which were then renamed when uploaded!?!" .... yeah.... thats true of a lot of music regardless of whether its AI, digital, recordings... I know one artist that "revealed his secrets to syncs", was that he'd write one short hook (like a couple words) that matches the energy he was going for, lay down a couple samples over it, nudge them in slightly different lengths/directions... and then print out an album with about 20+ versions of the same "song" with slight differences for sync convenience

and he'd name them (song) 1a, 1b, 2c, etc

i feel like most "AI" musicians put more effort into their songs than that, lol

[molten pecan]

love how one of the articles suggested below this dumb article is "spodify scam fake songs overwhelm site" or some bull. What makes a song fake? what the actual flip lol.

[sweet burrow]

and how they keep mentioning their "stealing" from "real" musicians

[molten pecan]

Of course I think many many celeb and musicians "public personas" are fake but that's par for the course, that's not the art itself.

[sweet burrow]

if anyone's stealing from real musicians, its spotify that says you dont get paid anything unless your fansize is a certain amount

[molten pecan]

fake in the sense of forgery not fake in the sense of like acting in a movie xD

gah English.

[umbral wadi]

::cough:: 😮‍💨

That's the part I meant when earlier I said bear in mind who pays for ads in reporting like this...

[molten pecan]

yeah spotify has been known to be horrible for musicians for years which is why I barely use it.

[sweet burrow]

well, when it comes down to it, "bands" are fake... since they're an amalgam of personalities...

[molten pecan]

yeah my point is that fake is so broad a term these days.

even so I don't even know what the hell a "fake song" is xD

yeah you can not like certain songs and bands and genres, doesn't mean they're not "real audio".

[sweet burrow]

yeah, for me, even if the song is 100% ai and automated... if i enjoy listening to it, thats all i care about

[molten pecan]

my brain can't comprehend it ignore me xD

[sweet burrow]

i dont care how the sausage is made, only that it meets my expectations of quality

cuz i've mentioned this before... but a "real artist", can speak lyrics they didnt write, have it autotuned to "singing", then overlaid onto samples they didnt make, of instruments they didnt play, and the whole thing's put together by someone else... and at this point i wouldnt be surprised if some "bigname" artists are just using generated vocal samples of themselves

[molten pecan]

yeah.

[sweet burrow]

at what point does it become a "real singer", except for the fact that they MAY have made a choice somewhere in there... or it may have been made for them by others

[molten pecan]

I'm just picky with the defintions of words lol.

I get how audio can be forged of course but calling it fake just means it doesn't exist. Least that's how my brain defines it.

[sweet burrow]

i'm just picky about articles like that that dont actually provide information or context... but mysteriously provide quotes said privately from years before.... ?

its like reading a firsthand account of someone that dreamed they died, and then died in their sleep.... yeah, sounds like a legit story.

[molten pecan]

I mean... 95% of articles on the internet these days are bullshit anyway I don't even know how you can tell when something isn't clickbait in this day and age.

I guess you'd eventually have to find journalists/authors you trust but good luck with that.

[sweet burrow]

well, thats youtube and everything... even legit articles have to clickbait to get seen...

[molten pecan]

ye

[sweet burrow]

and like... reputation is a funny thing now....

[molten pecan]

but by clickbait I mean a bull article I don't mean a factual article that gets your attention.

[sweet burrow]

ppl dont pay for facts, they pay to be told that the opinions they already have are correct

[molten pecan]

eyup.

[sweet burrow]

(and honestly, with how facts and science are misrepresented, its not much better to see facts in articles)

its like flatearth, they insert stuff that "sounds like science" that enough people cant/wont confirm, and they convince enough people that its true cuz it sounds true

[junior flame]

Used Replay to add my own Voice and remake it in Music Marker Render it in Adobe Premier Pro

[sweet burrow]

woot... just got $0.04 worth of streams from facebook, love when i'm getting money from places i didnt even realize i'd published to

[abstract ridge]

Bro I'm sad. They're getting rid of Dinoland USA at Animal Kingdom in Walt Disney World to make way for some Indiana Jones stuff that would be far better served in Adventureland than getting rid of a beloved part of the park that actually had something to do with animals (you know, dinosaurs!)

[raven crest]

holy crap!

that's the PCM!

hold on...

better

[umbral wadi]

What is this?

[cedar cave]

My Recap Collection YouTube Music.. 😏✨

[umbral wadi]

Elaborate please? Because I don't think the link is going where you think it is.

[molten pecan]

I think uhh, the AI had a fit with this one lol. @sweet burrow

[sweet burrow]

is that a suno image or what ? lol

[molten pecan]

eyup.

never seen such a... masterfully drawn human from it before lol.

[sweet burrow]

thats pretty wild, i love when it really grabs the concept at least

[sweet burrow]

forgot i already prompted for an album cover... lol... maybe i should have been more specific...

[thorny narwhal]

the one human is off but i really really like image lol did Suno create this based on your song or what? or did you do it with Stable Diffusion yourself? it has charme, edit: from what I read further its a Suno image, cool 🙂 edit2: is this a vaporwave / barberbeats song? I want to know

[sweet burrow]

its a suno pic from a "cpop tennis" instrumental song

[thorny narwhal]

its great, seriously the best i have seen so far that Suno created based on a song

[sweet burrow]

yeah, i feel like the image generation from instrumentals is better than the music generation in some respects

i still keep hitting walls of 1:30-2:30 if i use instrumental mode instead of stuffing lyrics with (...)

[thorny narwhal]

i mean look at this Suno has graced me with lol https://cdn2.suno.ai/image_8febf5f7-d483-417c-abee-3408bc872fac.jpeg

[sweet burrow]

i get a lot of those black swirls that look like topographical maps

[vale lake]

https://www.techspot.com/news/104610-man-charged-streaming-ai-generated-music-billions-times.html

Ooh damn, 20 yrs

Food for thought 👍

"At its peak, Smith's operation consisted of 52 cloud service accounts, each with 20 bot accounts, totaling 1,040 bots. He estimated that each account could stream around 636 songs daily, accessing the platforms via VPNs, resulting in 661,440 streams every day. At a royalty rate of half a cent per stream, he worked out payments at $3,307 daily, $99,216 monthly, and more than $1.2 million annually."

https://www.scribd.com/document/765860823/U-S-v-Smith-Indictment

Naughty naughty

Thaaaaats federal

Ooph

They're def gonna flip him lol

As I'm reading this

[frozen temple]

Now we wait

[vale lake]

I feel seen haha

[frozen temple]

added the 5

[vale lake]

Tennis!

Dey-sa comin

(jar-jar voice to take the edge off)

They're gonna expand this for sure

Party to is still the same, they just won't have as many counts

If this was on Suno, I'd lawyer up and try to be first to get a plea

Just sayin

[late crown]

Please no politics on Suno

[vale lake]

Oh, not political to my knowledge; it's about wirefraud using ai generated music

Presumably either on chirp, sd's implementation, or Suno

Or all three

He's facing 20 years

[late crown]

Gotha 😉

Sorry.. waking up

[vale lake]

No problem, I totally understand; I think it's relevant, but I also could just be fearmongering. I will admit I do feel a little vindicated as I've been gaslit on here constantly lol

In any case, I do feel for people who did purchase said services, and just from experience, they will expand this case. Also I'd be interested to see if this falls under certain older laws about organized crime on a technicality, but I haven't read that stuff in ages

Basically, like I said, never do crime. You never win.

Noooot worth it, cage is bad.

[sand helm]

is it okey to make money from self made songs with suno?

[hoary wind]

If you make the songs during a paid subscription, you are allowed to do this.

[sand helm]

if made using non paid?

[fast rivet]

then not.

[hoary wind]

https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2425345

[sand helm]

thanks for the help

[gusty solstice]

woah man

[topaz iron]

Glitch Tom https://www.udio.com/songs/srkeATW2KB74bK7Hfmarq5

[thorny narwhal]

suno images are the best https://cdn2.suno.ai/image_66bf461d-213b-43bc-9411-167e96c57099.jpeg i dont know what i did to deserve this 😄

second version isnt really any better https://cdn2.suno.ai/image_233062e3-9d1c-46b8-94d0-55cf645e32f7.jpeg

[vale lake]

No no no no nooo

Oh god why

[thorny narwhal]

thats the question of all questions 😄 its like the worst of the worst of stable diffusion combined in one

[vale lake]

It's def news, you can read the indictment. Whichever company he worked with, it does appear they did work with the CEO, although it doesn't go as far as to directly implicate them yet (but it does explicitly mention them and an unspecified producer). Also, it indicates money laundering, and there's video of the fbi raiding his house.

And it implies an unspecified number of "coconspirators" which makes me think they're leaving RICO open

If it's Suno, it's p huge news

If it isn't, it still is

Bc then it's udio lol, or the old CEO of sdxl but that seems far fetched

Whoever they are, someone is going to do time in a federal facility. Anyone telling said people otherwise has prob flipped already lol

[vale lake]

I mean, also poetry is a thing. Bob Dylan didn't win a nobel for his singing, that's for sure

[vale lake]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/north-carolina-musician-charged-music-streaming-fraud-aided-artificial-intelligence

Def real, it's federal

If it's Suno, some of my fans might actually BE spooks

[abstract ridge]

welp, somebody's getting cooked.

[vale lake]

So that would be cool

[abstract ridge]

i didn't read all of it myself, but from what I've gathered... it's pretty huge and someone's definitely going to jail for a pretty decent stretch of time.

from what I understand, someone did a very big federal no-no with AI assistance, got caught, and is now throwing a hissy fit over the fact that they got caught and are looking at at least a decade in a cell.

feel free to correct me if I have the gist of things wrong

[hasty hound]

it's not Suno, it was Boomy

[hoary cypress]

this image lol

[abstract ridge]

that... actually goes kinda hard.

[edgy plover]

I think the copyright laws on intellectual property when it comes to poetry and lyrics can't be monetized with copyright laws, in my opinion the products created 'can' be original as such, but who's to say original is not fake? Nowadays for example translations are mostly done by chat gpt but still monitored and audited by real living translators, the work is less work more auditing than actual translating so they get payed less, but it's still work and needs to be done by humans...

Just like Ai is pulling from archives after archives of material, why not another Bob dylan cover hit?

Teach your children well

Lol this https://vk.com/clip-218804282_456247422?c=1

[solid trench]

this is so apt, like the cover was made for it 🤣

[sinful belfry]

working on something massive

[hasty hound]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/north-carolina-musician-charged-music-streaming-fraud-aided-artificial-intelligence

[paper kiln]

AI songs SMITH used is as follows: “Zygophyceae,” “Zygophyllaceae,” “Zygophyllum,” “Zygopteraceae,” “Zygopteris,” “Zygopteron,” “Zygopterous,” “Zygosporic,” “Zygotenes,” “Zygotes,” “Zygotic,” “Zygotic Lanie,” “Zygotic Washstands,” “Zyme Bedewing,” “Zymes,” “Zymite,” “Zymo Phyte,” “Zymogenes,” “Zymogenic,” “Zymologies,” “Zymoplastic,” “Zymopure,” “Zymotechnical,” “Zymotechny,” and “Zyzomys.”

bruh can't even use AI generator for names but did generate millions in revenue

[pearl mirage]

Teddy bear say it be ok. 🙂

i dont think so. i think Altubo be around longer

not sure who made AI song first

[hasty hound]

Suno needs to get on top of this

[pearl mirage]

Suno is far better. so i think they doing good

maybe

you seen the cost o.O

lol. i be lucky to make 5 video in 1 month. they gotten better with video but it outcome is so random. o.O

[hasty hound]

Suno needs to find a technical solution to stop eploitation of it's service by these sham providers

[pearl mirage]

that for 10sc

[hasty hound]

or kill off free accounts

that's ridiculous

[pearl mirage]

i tell you right now. AI music is not great on AItubo, i try it

[hasty hound]

it's literally Suno

[pearl mirage]

still very bad. i sure suno making money from it. so it not a problem

if it suno. suno making money from it. it not a problem

[hoary wind]

This is not necessarily the case.

[hasty hound]

either Suno has an API and is not telling us, or companies are openly exploiting Suno to the detriment of paying users

[pearl mirage]

well, i tested my self on there AI music and it bad

[hasty hound]

I am now thinking Suno has an API and has just been lying to us

AItubo has been offering music generation since at least June

really? in what way?

[west hull]

@short prawn see?

[short prawn]

ah

[west hull]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[west hull]

so the site it is

got it..

i was looking in the discord..

[short prawn]

Ohhh

[hasty hound]

I just sent an email to [e-mail]

I am an annual Premier subscriber.

I’d like to know if the following companies are legitimately using Suno’s API.

Songer.co
LoudMe.ai
aitubo.ai

Regards ```

[west hull]

like the /chirp code

[short prawn]

ohhh k

[west hull]

🙂👍

[short prawn]

I don't know that much of the discord server well here

[west hull]

saying like i know everythn here..😂🤦‍♂️

[hasty hound]

well let's see if Suno are honest or reply at all because as a paying subscriber I am not happy with the obfuscation

I have no problem if it's all legit, I'd like to know why Suno has been claiming not to have an API though

consumers have the right to know this kind of stuff up front

[steel robin]

Funny thing is that due to loudme tos, you own nothing.

[hasty hound]

I didn't think it was but now I don't know

[steel robin]

me too, just was laughing there 😄

basically "if you pay us we allow you to use yours"

[hoary wind]

The fact they have repeatedly changed their website to hide the Suno song IDs and completely removed their "royalty-free music" section of the site (featuring 1700+ Suno songs), and also removed the ability to play songs whilst they are generating (which uses a web address that features the Suno song ID), and also the use of multiple Suno accounts to generate songs, suggests to me that they are not legit.

[hasty hound]

I tend to agree however Songer.co and AItubo, what's the deal with them?

[hoary wind]

Haven't been able to investigate these in as much detail. As far as I am aware there is no API being licensed. Both services (among others) are being brought to the attention of the team.

I'd like to see something done about this situation too.

[hasty hound]

AItubo state on their FAQ that they use Suno

[hoary wind]

That statement is probably true.

[hasty hound]

they even have Suno generated videos on their website

[vale lake]

Suno knows about it, so it seems this is legitimate

[vale lake]

Oh?

What is boomy?

Yaaay

[ashen fjord]

Just because Suno is aware does not mean they are legimate, they are likely gathering evidence for a lawsuit or something along that lines.

I really, REALLY doubt that. Furry demonstrated that loudme.ai were using lots of free accounts to generate their music (listed near the end of the video): https://youtu.be/8vnZO31D_xE

[vale lake]

Glad it isn't here

That would suck

[hasty hound]

Boomy is a crap AI music generator that let's you release direct to music platforms

[vale lake]

Gotcha; I truly don't know, I just assumed if they were aware something would be done

And since it isn't, they must be legitimate

Also, if one of them has legit access

Then no reason to assume it would be exclusive

But idk

I heard about it from you guys

And y'all have the data

The free account thing is damning.

[vale lake]

Where was it confirmed?

[hasty hound]

Boomy stopped working a couple of days before the indictment

I believe they got raided on the same day as the guy on charges

[vale lake]

So it's not confirmed, but seems likely; checking it out now

It also sounds right snyway

[hasty hound]

Boomy's website is still up but it's not actually working when trying to generate

[vale lake]

From the indictment

It sounded very paint by numbers

[hasty hound]

I first joined Boomy in 2019

it was bad then and was bad up until it stopped working

[vale lake]

https://www.billboard.com/pro/ai-music-streaming-fraud-case-boomy-ceo-listed-co-writer-songs/

Yuuuuuup

RIP

[hasty hound]

I knew it

[ashen fjord]

Suno does have an API system in place to, well, execute the process when you try to make music. I do not recall hearing saying Suno did not have one?

The claim was likely it is internal, not licensed for use by any external companies (except for Microsoft because of the partnership?).

An API is basically functions calls and the so-called "unofficial" Suno APIs systems these sites used scraped what functions the browser used and emulated the process (which is why those system require browser cookies to function)

[prime bronze]

suno not having API has been repeated here many, many times. it's existence fiercely denied time and time again

[hasty hound]

correct

Suno has denied having an API, I wish now I had kept screenshots of these claims

[hoary wind]

That's most likely in response to users asking "is there an API?", with it being implied that it's something they want to use externally.

[hasty hound]

it's all fishy to me now, I feel deceived

[ashen fjord]

Hm, I see, I have a feeling it may be a misunderstanding from those not technically inclined. They likely meant to say that there is no public API system available or the question was phrased in a yes/no style like Furry demonstrated

[hasty hound]

I am technically inclined and have been told there is no API. I have a business use case for large scale usage and my understanding is that it wasn't an option

[ashen fjord]

It currently is not an option. These sites are basically using datamined set of functions that Suno calls when a user on a browser creates a song. Hence why those so-called unofficial API uses browser cookies for part of the authentication process instead of actual API keys (e.g. like Discord Developer for Bot systems do).

That being said, I remember a staff member mentioning in the past that they had plans to make an API system available in the future but many other items are prioritized over that currently.

Have you inquired [e-mail] about it and made it clear it was for a business? They may have some sort of email or wait list to notify businesses about information for the API when it becomes available (which I pessimistically think will not be anytime soon)

[hasty hound]

short answer, I asked here and was told there was no plans for an API and that one wasn't available even for business use.

I have a website that sells royalty free beats, I use Soundful for those now

which does have an API

[ashen fjord]

I see. AFAIK, that is true but if you want to know officially, shoot an email to support

[cedar cave]

KamenRide~Dark-Jamil (カメンライドダークカブト, Kamenraido Dāku Kabuto)

[vale lake]

That's so wild

[north flame]

a little fun side project im taking on

[strange gorge]

wild as all beans

[cedar cave]

Counter-Strike Gaming Online Nostalgia Malaysia Trailer~

[lethal crest]

Kujo Beatdown by Ren....I love it

[vale lake]

https://www.udio.com/songs/bQqsks4ni6FY7512CmeqHW

More surrealist|absurdist themes that edge reality

[topaz iron]

Glitch Jerry https://www.udio.com/songs/jqzGzVssywnXiGYc4ZaGBG

[balmy gorge]

Howdy

[frozen temple]

I don't know what angle to go from here.

Voice from Suno in case yall wonder

[vital talon]

I would go with a serial killer theme there, I had visions of Jason Vorhees or something the like before my eyes with this

[frozen temple]

The inflections call for something like that. Very akin to RUN! tbh

All I did was upload a phone calling.

https://shorturl.at/Ifl6X

[vital talon]

yeah, but I would make it more psychic, less right in your face like the RUN! one, more disturbing feel, eerie and all around a good horror flick, less an action type like with the monster breathing 😄

[dim gyro]

so is it true songs made 'public' in suno, despite my supposed ownership of those songs and lyrics, that the lyrics get 'absorbed' and 're-used' by the ai? cos that's breaching pretty clear legal rights

let's go to court suno

[hoary wind]

Where are you hearing this?

[dim gyro]

the other night, after reporting lines from 4 seperate songs ended up in 'someone elses' song, i claimed theft, the user on here, i forget who, claimed the ai reuses the lines and that's why i might be seeing it

my lyrics are quite distinctive, and while yes, a million monkeys blah blah, 4 diff songs, lyrics in one of theirs, nuhuh

and that wasn't a 'no', btw

[hoary wind]

Hmm. Were their lyrics AI generated? As far as I'm aware Suno uses ChatGPT as its lyrics generator.

[dim gyro]

kind of like when i reported ages ago to kudya that replika mods where hijacking my bot and she replied 'which server, which mod'

i write all my own lyrics, never used ai lyrics

[hoary wind]

I mean the other songs that had used your lines.
To my knowledge no, the AI does not take people's lyrics and reuse them.

[dim gyro]

i can't tell about theirs, i'm guessing 'yes' from how badly inserted my lines were...hmm or maybe no...ai should have done better

well then one of your shining top suno stars is harvesting the best lines from everyones songs

but see the problem on here is ppl lke you come on an act like you are some kind of authority .. are you ? i don't see a mod tag

i rarely see dev or mod tags

because discord is a piss weak lazy help fob off

[hoary wind]

I'm a guide. I have some moderation powers here on Discord.

[dim gyro]

and people claim it's my abrasive nature 😇

well mr..im guessing mr if you have furrybeans.. can you get a definitive answer from one of the powers that be?

[worn river]

It's funny how the concept of outputting the best combination of audio/text , based on model inputs, ultimately then may result in outputs sounding or reading similar to previous songs. But that's then not copying, but just outputting optimal results.

[umbral wadi]

I can't comment on what others may or may not have told you but the exact verbiage that we have been using is this:

We don't have a publicly-available API at this time, but it's on our roadmap.

[dim gyro]

does the line "i have seen women in white anfractuous gowns billowing on bridges standing stark against the night' seem likely to be 'coincedentally' doubled by a user?

because that's my lyrics, almost all of my lyrics, as i said, fairly.. obscure

[rare glade]

@dim gyro Suno has shining stars? Names! I want names!

[dim gyro]

i'm not stupid enough to go naming in a public forum, i'll talk to devs or powers in private

[hoary wind]

If you have links to the specific songs that are plagiarising your lyrics, it's probably best to inform Suno via [e-mail] and include your own songs too so they can take action against those users. You can also get an answer from them regarding your query of reusing lyrics. It's most likely that someone has copy/pasted from your songs if they are public.

[dim gyro]

i requested a 'plagurism' checker ai, where you can flag your song and the suspect one and it objectively compares (in feature requests) but i'm not holding my breath

[umbral wadi]

I am a mod. Does that make me a power?

[dim gyro]

not in a public channel, no

[umbral wadi]

Have you emailed [e-mail]?

[dim gyro]

i didn't see much point. esp after being told the ai reuses lines, i gave it up

[umbral wadi]

If you have chosen not to contact [e-mail] and refuse to give us anything we can substantiate, then I am requesting as a mod that you please dispense of this topic.

You have tied our hands.

[worn river]

Curious. Should their be a "notice" that "reuse prompts" of another should not infer one should use the others lyrics as well. I'm sure there are those that simply haven't a clue and just click away to see what happens.

I have, in the past, as an educational purpose, show how a prompt can change the song of another to get the results they're looking for. Of course, it's just clicking "reuse prompt" and run a gen with the prompts modified but the lyrics the same. Then after a day, delete the song from my library, I don't need it.

[dim gyro]

as if support are going to listen to 4-5 of my songs and 2-3 of theirs and note the lyrics i flagged, aint nobody got time fo' dat

[umbral wadi]

That's different from what is being claimed here.

They are claiming that a "shining star" is doing this.

[dim gyro]

i probably wouldn't have even noticed, i think i have only bothered listening to 3 or 4 other songs on suno. but the lines were just badly pasted in, stuck out like crazy

one that has hundreds of thousands of views and feautures regularly in your top 10 = shining star

[umbral wadi]

So I'm assuming it's a person who frequents trending. Without giving us something to go on and refusing to contact support at the email given I don't even have enough to bring it to anyone's attention.

Regardless, if you will not help us help you all we have are unfounded allegations. In which case I am telling you to stop making claims of this nature that you won't back up. There is a name for such speech.

[dim gyro]

well, the bird has flown anyway, that song is gone into past, and i refuse to make public any song other than satirical piss takes from now on, and that's just sad

[umbral wadi]

?warning @dim gyro please drop this discussion unless you are willing to substantiate these allegations.

[dim gyro]

well, let me see if if can find their song in their archive of many dozens, and my songs, in my list of hundreds of generations, and recheck, and i'll get back to you with filenames

like i have time for that

but i will actually, cos now u pissed me off insinuating im a liar

[umbral wadi]

Until then this discussion is over. Feel free to DM me or any of the moderators when you have found it.

[dim gyro]

attentions seeking after midnight in the off topic suno channel

that's me

[worn river]

Sorry. I was typing when it was said the discussion is over. 😄

So I've deleted my comment.

[umbral wadi]

Eh? I didn't even see it so no harm.

We don't mind helping people when this stuff comes up, we're actually very bullish about doing so. We do a lot of stuff behind the scenes that people don't see on the surface. But users have to give us something we can use.

Rule #5 applies to us moderators as well. We can't just say to the Team members we have access to that someone said that someone did something and hope that they'll do a bunch of leg work. We Moderators and guides try to do that legwork for the Team so they can focus on making the model better and not on stuff that happens in the Discord.

Was this made with AI?

[tropic drum]

no

it my favorite song

[umbral wadi]

Were you aware that Suno is an AI music Discord? We make AI music here.

[tropic drum]

i dont speak english

[umbral wadi]

What language do you speak? Because Google Translate exists and I'll happily repeat.

[tropic drum]

you know the Russia?

[umbral wadi]

Вы знали, что Suno — это музыкальный ИИ-дискорд? Мы здесь создаем музыку ИИ.

Для общения с вами использую Google Translate, заранее приношу извинения за возможные ошибки в общении.

Were you aware that Suno is an AI music Discord? We make AI music here.

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[tropic drum]

I use suno, but I just wanted to recommend a song

[umbral wadi]

Поскольку вы уже сказали, что эта песня не была создана с помощью ИИ, мне придется удалить видео и MP3. Я извиняюсь.

Может быть, вы могли бы зайти на suno.com, создать песню и поделиться ею?

Используя Google Translate для общения с вами, я заранее извиняюсь за любые ошибки в общении.

Since you have already said this song was not made with AI I will need to remove the video and the MP3. I do apologize.

Maybe you could visit suno.com and make a song and share that?

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[tropic drum]

ok

[umbral wadi]

Также у нас есть канал на русском языке, если вы не знали? Он здесь: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422

Использую Google Translate для общения с вами, заранее прошу прощения за возможные ошибки в общении.

Also we do have a Russian language channel in case you did not know? It's here: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[tropic drum]

thatks you

[umbral wadi]

Пожалуйста. Надеюсь, вам понравится создавать музыку с Suno и делиться ею здесь.

Для общения с вами я использую Google Translate, заранее приношу извинения за возможные ошибки в общении.

You're welcome. Hope you enjoy making music with Suno and sharing it here.

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[tropic drum]

this is my song

[tropic drum]

you bot or no?

[umbral wadi]

Мне нравится звук, хотя я, очевидно, не понимаю слов.

Просто напоминание на будущее, место, где можно делиться такими песнями, это #suno-showcase и на русскоязычном канале, на который я дал ссылку ранее. Но песня классная!

Я использую Google Translate для общения с вами, заранее извиняюсь за любые ошибки в общении.

Я не бот, нет. Это просто мое имя исполнителя.

I like the sound even though I don't understand the words obviously.

Just a reminder for the future, the place to share songs like this is on #suno-showcase and in the Russian language channel I linked you earlier. Cool song though!

I am not a bot, no. That is just my artist name.

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[tropic drum]

go frends

i dont have friend in discord

are you know the beluga?

[umbral wadi]

Извините, я не знаю белугу? Это ваше собственное имя в Discord?

Используя Google Translate для общения с вами, заранее извиняюсь за возможные ошибки в общении.

I'm sorry I do not know the beluga? Is that your own Discord's name?

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

Я должен напомнить вам, что мы (обычно) не разрешаем здесь рекламу Discord. Это противоречит одному из правил. Не в беде, просто напоминаю вам.

Используя Google Translate для общения с вами, заранее извиняюсь за любые ошибки в общении.

I do have to remind you that we do not (usually) allow Discord promotion here. It is against one of the rules. Not in trouble, just reminding you.

Using Google Translate to communicate with you, I apologize in advance for any errors in communication.

[slow garden]

Greetings to all.
Could you please advise if it's possible to generate songs in Dark Electro or Aggrotech style using Suno?
If so, are there specific styles that should be applied?
Thanks.