🗣️┃chill-chat

[vale lake]

that was my wife, this is me

help, i am stuck in the 2000s

[daring echo]

Not sure if anyone else can relate?! 🙂

[fluid field]

I need ideas for songs once I get credits refreshed

[vale lake]

some "game assets"

I just kinda wanted to see if the regular models could do it ever since that guy mentioned that lora

and yea, they can, pretty hardcore too

90s/80s 3d graphics

new nightmare just dropped

[hoary wind]

Yep. Yep. Thanks. exits the channel swiftly 😄

[young sable]

sang a little flow, used extend, had suno create the song, extracted stems, converted to my voice using rvc, produced my own drums, and mastered the final version : )

[edgy plover]

https://www.udio.com/songs/ioKBNooYfMpMeXoAdEFiAS

Someone just made that I think it's awesome

Childish but awesome

Amazing!

[limpid violet]

I understand that each game wants to be the platform where you meet a life-long friend, but I would rather make friends with someone elsewhere, then play a game with them. Like how we absolutely kicked butt in Project Zomboid.

[edgy plover]

just thought i'd put udio up there on linkdin https://www.linkedin.com/posts/river-lyle-reuveni-58645631b_dj-scratch-rock-rap-by-imortalimp-udio-activity-7227077720575246336-n0MR?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

[dim kernel]

How about a mix between linkin park and red jumpsuit?

[charred warren]

go to the library and get a book, write about a character, location or the plot,
go to reddit /r/worldnews, scroll, close eyes, keep scrolling, stop, write about whatever post you stop at or some inane/profound comment in the thread,
go to reddit /r/songwriting look for some post about someone who can't write to save their lives, write the song they can't write, or start to give them advice and just turn that into a song,
go to Tubi, Netflix or Youtube, start a full length movie in the middle-ish, write what you see, distill the essence of it or key phrases from it into a song.
Write a letter to a long lost friend, a teacher, a family member, convert to lyrics.
Open google maps, randomly place a marker, zoom in to street view, drive around, write about what you see. I'm sure you'll find something eventually.
Imagine being a ghost, haunting a house, someone/ones move in, what do you see, how do you feel, what do you do to express those feelings?
Maybe you moved into a haunted house, how are you being haunted? What does it want?

[edgy plover]

sorry for this kinda inflamitary post but i replied to this guy https://x.com/nickfloats/status/1821233357855854898

Nick St. Pierre (@nickfloats) on X

AI doesn’t MAKE you an artist
AI doesn’t MAKE you a musician
AI doesn’t MAKE you a designer
AI doesn’t MAKE you a developer

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 5:14 PM

[strange gorge]

posting on twitter doesn't make you a debater either

[edgy plover]

it means you have dable in it though lol

[lilac vine]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[strange gorge]

twitter has always been a trashfire. Don't let me stop you from attempting to make your voice heard there but there are so many better uses of your time

[fluid field]

There’s a reason I don’t look at twitter for even games I play

[strange gorge]

I never done the 'tweets' since I am an ancient husk

but

[fluid field]

That stuff is wild and toxic

[strange gorge]

balkanize the internet back down to webrings cmoooon

monoculture has always been bad

[fluid field]

Yeah, but it’s the internet it won’t ever stop

[edgy plover]

there are some good corparate accounts on twitter or should i say X.com running their helpdesk though

like if you have some software o troubleshooting problem email is not the only option nowadays

cakewalk runs their helpdesk there

and some others too

i forgot though

lol

oh yeah magix vegas movie studio software has their x.com https://x.com/MAGIX_INT

MAGIX International (@MAGIX_INT) on X

MAGIX, a market-leading provider of high-quality multimedia software. Join us and experience innovation that inspires true creative freedom!

Twitter

i was not impresed with the music maker so much

but their video production stuff is pretty easy and good

they are the company that brought sony vegas to steam

and sold it extra cheap

[charred warren]

lol we are doing this every couple minutes in Suno https://youtube.com/shorts/rg7w9EQY_7A?si=tqp7K9ANpDQg3vLG

[limpid violet]

I'm trying my hand at memes

[limpid violet]

Let's not kid ourselves -- it'll always be twitter. It has brand recognition, and you understand what it is from just the name alone. "x" is trying to rebrand a letter of the alphabet, and I'm frankly not letting a billionaire decide that he can just take arguably the third coolest letter.

(no, I'm not going to share the first and second most, and yes number one would surprise you)

[edgy plover]

This is great! You are good at creating memes! Lemme find one I made

[edgy plover]

Yeah we are all sad Elon rebranded his venture after his favourite signature.

But don't forget 'accept what you can't change, change what you can't accept'

I'm alright with it since twitter wasn't the coolest combination in the alphabet xyz.com would be cool too no?

here is the meme

thats one of my favourites

i made it

dont worry yesterday wont be like tommorrow, tommorrow is a totaly different day

[strange gorge]

Whipped up a lil' thing for Falcon to demonstrate how powerful Flux is

[fluid field]

I love this style

[normal wadi]

Link to flux?

[strange gorge]

There is about a billion differenet places but you should be able to start here
https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux

and right now the stable diffusion reddit is where all the flux stuff is being talked about
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/

[normal wadi]

Cool thanks bro

[strange gorge]

If you've used local generative stuff before then it isn't so bad

[normal wadi]

I’ll have a look into it

[strange gorge]

If you've used comfyUI before then it's ez pz

[normal wadi]

Ahh the stuff yolk uses

[strange gorge]

Yolk uses SDXL

But sorta the same, yeah

[normal wadi]

Lol

[strange gorge]

Flux is a different backend thing, but uhh

works the same? Sort of?

[normal wadi]

Hahah it looks cool though

[strange gorge]

The Flux stuff specificially is in flux (heh) because it is so new

[normal wadi]

A gotcha.. I’ll have a look since I’m out of creds lol

[strange gorge]

Worth it though, that thing for Falcon took me maybe 15 minutes and that was me being choosey and doing a bit of inpainting

[normal wadi]

Oh no way … that’s not bad

How do you find it compared to MJ?

[strange gorge]

I've got to try some more stuff with Flux, but as of right now:
Flux is better on account of I can run it locally so it's free. I can slam a billion gens, run it overnight if I want, that sort of thing. It's prompt adherence is incredible and with inpainting I can do stuff I can't do in Midjourney.
HOWEVER

Midjourney is better if you just wanna slam some prompts and have it fill in details

If you ask flux for "cool surreal skull in space" you get exactly that
sparse

Do the same for Midjourney and it fills in stuff for you, makes pretty things easily

There are some local LLM things you can run for Flux that I have yet to intergrate that turns simple prompts into novel like ones that Flux wants

The thing for Falcon though, that was a prompt I told it to do. I asked it for the Japanese ad from 1985, for the release of that album which I called Howl, asked it for the second album inset picture, for her saluting, for the Shazbot Syndicate logo in the lower right

[west hull]

I made this using niji journey for one of my songs about losing your mind while trapped in an endless maze. I love how distorted the eyes look

[iron light]

🍓

[fluid field]

just reading some of this (even though im no lawyer i find this interesting)

[snow pivot]

Is this flux?

[fluid field]

nope, NovelAI

[snow pivot]

Ahhhh

I've been doing some flux stuff

If that was flux I would've asked how you got something that particular style

[fluid field]

well, i used a particular image base, and in nai used a couple other images for the vibe

[snow pivot]

That's a very cool feature

Flux does text so good in comparison it's crazy

[fluid field]

nice

this was also nai for one of my songs

[snow pivot]

There's such a soft vibe with these images

I really dig it

[fluid field]

thanks, and this was copilot

[snow pivot]

Copilot does image generation now?

That is a really impressive image, clearly the eyes could use work but you could pass that off as artistic choice

[fluid field]

yeah, same for this

i've used novelai, copilot for some images

[snow pivot]

They do look really nice

[fluid field]

my most recent copilot image was a churro for a song someone asked me to write

[snow pivot]

Some of my images have been pretty wild too

[grim stirrup]

An album cover i made using copilot

[snow pivot]

Great work, maybe I should start doing album covers

I usually just do thumbnails

[grim stirrup]

Thanks!

[snow pivot]

My most recent thumbnail

I usually do a combo of image generation and some image editing

[grim stirrup]

Niceeee i like it! I made some thumbnail's but without text

[snow pivot]

Ever since i've started i've always tried putting text in

Idk why ig it's just part of my process

[grim stirrup]

Heres some versions of a thumbnail for my series oblivious

It was an intro

[snow pivot]

Ooo that's really good

[grim stirrup]

Thxs!

[snow pivot]

Multiple characters are hard to prompt for

Did you add it in post or use segmentation

[grim stirrup]

Oh, i post them to my youtube which i also post songs and little videos(im currently trying to make a AI generated movie based on my stories)

[snow pivot]

Oh what I meant was did you add each character individually after making it, or use segmentation techniques to individually prompt each one?

[grim stirrup]

Ohhh, no i specified to add three characters

[snow pivot]

Usually what happens is something I call prompt bleed(it prolly has a different name)

Where the prompt you use bleeds differently on each character in a way you don't intend

The three characters appear individually distinct

[grim stirrup]

Okay well i tried to make the image more different like the blonde haired girl holding the mask that the brown haired girl is holding but i think it came out good

[snow pivot]

Ah

Good is an understatement, that is an absolutely great image

[grim stirrup]

Thanks!

I also am obessed with the band t.A.T.u. (to the point i have dreams of performing with them on stage, my dream is to meet them in-person) and i lip-sync their songs perfectly!

[grim stirrup]

Hence why i based this image off of their album 200 km/h in the wrong lane for my W.I.P album (which is this image)

[snow pivot]

Ahh

Never heard of them, tbh

Although I haven't heard of alot of artists

[grim stirrup]

I first learned them from their song all the things she said(an edit or smth like that)

[snow pivot]

The username i've used for awhile is a band reference

[grim stirrup]

Nicee!

[snow pivot]

There are some inside jokes also surrounding it but it was based off the band

[grim stirrup]

Okay

[west hull]

I loved T.a.t.u when I was younger

[fluid field]

my name is just my online alias that i use

[snow pivot]

This is also my main alias

I would post a song from them but their songs can be a bit spicy

[grim stirrup]

i only knew them since 2020/21, but i basically listened to all their albums and songs even their demo songs and unreleased songs

[west hull]

Ive probably heard all the things she said like a million times 😭

[grim stirrup]

Me too T^T

I even made a tatu cover of give your heart a break just as a side-project

And i heard sweather weather and i thought "what if tatu made this song?"

And i made a thumbnail for that cover

[snow pivot]

Feels like a throwback to classic 2000-2010s style music covers

[grim stirrup]

I'm usually very quiet about my covers/channel but its really nice that im finally showing it (:

Heres the cover video i mentioned abt https://youtu.be/eBxNnSTCRyE?si=BC0vCwwri7Y9v6xu

[snow pivot]

Huh I think i've heard this song

Great song

[grim stirrup]

Thanks!

[snow pivot]

The song gives me p!nk vibes kinda

[grim stirrup]

I ♡ p!nk, my aunt used to play "try" alot of times in her car

[snow pivot]

Oh yeah I love lots of her older content

I don't keep up with new content from music artists that much

[grim stirrup]

Me too lol

[snow pivot]

This is the song that came to mind when I listened to that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asaCQOZpqUQ

Naturally her vibe is more rebellious

Feels so nostalgic listening to this again

[sharp whale]

Hi

[snow pivot]

hi

[grim stirrup]

Ooo i believe i listened to this before, it just seems super nostalgic listening it like you saif

Said*

[grim stirrup]

Hello!

I'm also obesssed with lost songs some of my favs are: LCDA, EKT/ulterior movtives, and blind the wind/like the wind

[snow pivot]

Lost songs?

[grim stirrup]

yeah

[snow pivot]

Songs that were rarely archived?

[grim stirrup]

Like songs have no artist and are unknown

[snow pivot]

Ah

[grim stirrup]

Heres my favorite one https://youtu.be/7HRJGvVLyYs?si=WdW5XOQFeMyPkGUG

[sharp whale]

https://tenor.com/view/horror-scary-frightened-grim-reaper-the-grim-reaper-gif-3562976

I am sleepy

Bye

[snow pivot]

The instrumental track is really interesting

I'm not fully digging the vocals

Reminds me a bit of Last Dance With Mary Jane

[grim stirrup]

Heres my next tatu cover im making

Speechless

Just gotta make a yulia version

[snow pivot]

Are you covering it with your voice or other voices

[grim stirrup]

Oh im using the audio and converting it to their voicee

Voices*

Because tbh i don't have a singing voice lol

[snow pivot]

Ah I ask because my content before suno came out was dubbing songs with jojo's bizarre adventures voices

[grim stirrup]

oh okay

[snow pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB8iBWl3ZTY

My first video upload

Naturally my worst edited

But one of my better AI covers

[grim stirrup]

Okay im gonna have a listen

Its nice!

[snow pivot]

Ty

[grim stirrup]

Yw

[snow pivot]

It's also my most popular video by a large margin

6,000 views vs max 500-600

[grim stirrup]

ooo okay

My most popular video had uh maybe 1.7/1.8k views and it was my 2nd time working with real life footage

[snow pivot]

Oh I feel you so hard, this is the video with the worst editing but got the most views

[grim stirrup]

And i was impressed because tbh barely anyone watches my content lol

I only get single digit views or sometimes maybe two

[snow pivot]

I used to get better views but I started doing three videos a week when suno came out

Worst mistake I ever made

So I swapped to one a week

And it destroyed my ranking in the algo

So I was getting single digits for the past 2-3 months

But now the algo is picking me back up

Since i'm being very consistant with uploads

[grim stirrup]

Okay so the first part of the speechless cover is uploaded

Lena's version is up

[snow pivot]

Noice 👍

There was a point I was making animated lips on the character model so it matched the words they sang

But i'll be honest, that is so much work

[grim stirrup]

Yeah im still making images and converting them to videos for my short movie(i am basically doing three/four, etc things at once) like i got to focus on posting consistently, focusing on my personal life, and to add more to the pile i have to focus on my series and other videos so i have a lot of things i have to do

[snow pivot]

Nowadays I make one main image for a video(generally, latest video doesn't count), and then however many I need to make to compile into a thumbnail

[grim stirrup]

And i don't usually take breaks only when im too stressed out or smth happened like....nvm....

[snow pivot]

I would take breaks all the time when doing my earlier style videos

To understand, I had to go frame by frame

And adjust each and every lift flap

To the words of the song

Easily takes a week

[grim stirrup]

And when i make my videos i lose track anf i have so many calls from friends, sibilings that make me lose focus on my videos and i have a parent who talks talks talks abt my mom constantly so i can't get videos posted, i might post on my community page where i might take a break for a while...

Heres a post i made a while ago

Yes im only just starting my teen years...

And this stuff happens

[snow pivot]

Yikes, that sucks

[grim stirrup]

Yeah...

And i usually spend time in my room for long periods of time bcuz i don't want to go out of my room because im scared "she" might do something to me... and he put me in a mental place where i was there for a little over 2 hours and he was actually thinking of keeping me there for 72 hrs(i think thats 3 days)

A thing i posted like a few seconds ago

[snow pivot]

I'd personally recommend getting cps involved

[grim stirrup]

Well... they did came yesterday but it was only to close out the case thats all...

[snow pivot]

To close out the case? How are they not taking this seriously

[grim stirrup]

Thats what im saying...

[snow pivot]

At this point you should probably get many other parents involved

Pressure from multiple people can help solve the situation

But to be frank

It might get worse before it gets better

[grim stirrup]

I think it already gotten worse when "she" came in the picture

My dads gd

Gf*

Like she decided to say to me "karma will get you soon"...

[snow pivot]

Believe me when I say it can and will go worse if he catches wind you're involving other parents

However

You should still do it

[grim stirrup]

Okay

When it gets light out maybe 12/1 ill call them and tell them what happened

[snow pivot]

I've had experience in trying to stick to the status quo, and it doesn't work for situations this volatile

It will keep getting worse unless you take drastic action

[grim stirrup]

Like he decided to completly lie to the CPS worker saying "i never did that!" Basically calling me a liat

Liar*

And all i said was "he kicked me in the back"

Which was true

[snow pivot]

Did it leave a discernible mark

Well I presume by the time they got here it was gone

[grim stirrup]

No but it was sore for a couple of hours

[snow pivot]

Since it got physical that means you need to get other parents involved, tell them it got physical and that you're scared. See if you can somehow get out of that situation

That's all the advice I can give you

[grim stirrup]

Okay

[snow pivot]

This isn't going to be easy, it never is

[grim stirrup]

He also manipulates me by saying "your mom doesnt have a car, stable house, a job, etc..." and talks about her "behavior" infront of me

I tried to run away 3 times but got scared that the cops would be called on me because he said "if you step off this property the cops will be called and they will bring you right back here!"

[snow pivot]

That's a manipulation tactic

And if they did, it would be on file

Which would raise the eyebrow of the cps worker

And also instead of just running away, try to see if a friend will let you stay with them, make sure it's cleared with their parents and they know exactly why

That will create witnesses

Which you can use to cement your case of a controlling and abusive household

[grim stirrup]

And i also had a dream where my dads gf decided to hit my on the head with the metal part of a broom and my head started bleeding and i passed out while running to my dad telling him "SHE HIT ME!" And he would not believe it and called me a liar and i passed out, then i woke up with a pounding headache

[snow pivot]

Do you know if it was actually a dream or if it actually happened?

[grim stirrup]

idk im going with the dream

But it seemed so...real....

[snow pivot]

Did you check for any marks where you were hit

[grim stirrup]

No

[snow pivot]

If you can confirm a mark is there you have something to add to your case

Much needed physical evidence, although it's not that much

They can easily pass that off

[grim stirrup]

Okay

[snow pivot]

Still go with the parent plan

Absolutely go through with it, even having dreams like that shows your mind is in a real bad place

[grim stirrup]

Yeah...

[snow pivot]

If the cops actually come to get you

Tell them what's going on

But make sure you have those witnesses to your mental state first

It's less you said vs he said

And more they are saying vs what he says

[grim stirrup]

okay im texting my friend rn

[rotund pine]

Brother... What did i just stumble upon.
I feel like I'm watching Netflix drama or smth.
Wish you best, we need subreddit for this.

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cyloLZ4bs0

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-squad-isekai-suicide-squad-isekai-harley-quin-harley-quinn-gif-18258293558550386841

[west hull]

Anime?

[limpid violet]

Sometimes when I'm completely stumped by something I've read, I adopt the exact faces the dude from Axios is making,

[edgy plover]

Can you ask copilot to Gen variations from file or online source? Nice I must try I'm a fan of co-pilot nowadays!

[edgy plover]

I didn't make the original though

[limpid violet]

I would have been really surprised if you made the original template, but the meme you made was funny 🙂

[edgy plover]

It's typical cynicism mixed with irony

Like is tomorrow gonna be worse then, let's wait and see

My parents thought it was a bad meme

It wasn't a threat it was a play on words ofc

But yeah yesterday was bad, lol, let's not repeat it 😉

I made two cute ones memes that is that somehow people had a hardtime understanding was really me, hold on

sorry wood house ill post them one at a time

and this one too a cute meme with a bit of melancholy

i made them for my 'old' girlfriend when she left

she had bought me a box of chocolotes for valentines day, thats how we met

and this one takes a chessplayer to understand, (its not about winning, its about how you play the game

kasparov beat deep blue once, and then decided, never again, cause the battle is unfair, the machine is cold hearted it studies my every move even when im not paying attention "Kasperov"

i made some childish ones too here look a play on words for the elements

and with one of the elements being a gun

and taking the whole template a revisiting it with a twist

the fish is the slaughterfish from the elderscrolls

the original is "Fire Water Earth Bear"

this one is just classic though i didnt make it but its terribly good a joke on old printer cartidges an their drm and copy protection, and the meme itself being with a cyanish background

cartridges didn't work if you brought them to your inkrefil station and you had a 'brandname' printer or brandname cartridge

they'd just be like 'fuc* you No INK"

[limpid violet]

And that's still an issue 😛

[edgy plover]

yup

this one is dark if you value your privacy more than google..

and this one isn't me its probly an old poster that even sold pretty well

houston we have a problem!

one more and i will stop with the image spam, here goes DOOM GUY GOD MODE ACTIVATED IDDQD focus time

[vale lake]

what I'm prob using for the new album

some of the ones I didn't use:

[snow pivot]

It's not a real anime, it's an AI generated image using flux, but that's the intent

[limpid violet]

I'm far too indecisive, and not talented enough at photoshop to know to combine the best of both words from two images. I need people smarter than me to make these decisions for me.

[west hull]

Guys

How to get the key

[limpid violet]

Video / script lied -- this is a server for getting internet robots to make music for you -- not roblox

[west hull]

seriously?

[limpid violet]

https://www.suno.com

[flint sapphire]

just gotta wait til there's an AI that can do all this as well 🥳

or just a good old fashioned coin flip and use whichever wins ;)

if its midjourney and i like multiple concepts i tend to /blend both images

sorry if this is awfully out of context, its what im assuming the topic is about based off of me just openeing discord lol

[limpid violet]

So, I absolutely love the frog in the last picture, but I had to photoshop the trumpet to actually be a trumpet, but the word "flutter" doesn't appear as a physical object in the scene...

The second picture was my close second, but I generated the top picture and I think it MIGHT be the winner, but I just wish I knew enough about photoshop to place "flutter" into the background of that scene

@strange gorge is flux-inpainting possible yet?

[strange gorge]

of course

[limpid violet]

My wallet hates this knowledge, but I'm really excited by that.

I'm still stuck between frog1 and frog3 -- if you're feeling frog3, would I be able to bribe you to inpaint "flutter" into the background?

[edgy plover]

Yo dude busy with heavy HEAVY VEGAS ENCODING RIGHT NOW!

[flint sapphire]

frog3 looks the 'cleanest' or most visually appealing i'd say

needs some camera lens noise/grain overlay 💪

[edgy plover]

Itsworking

Hacktheplanet

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-tenor-memsnagas-giphy-gif-19242221

[strange gorge]

You can not, no.
I wasn't having good luck inpainting a sign or anything in the bakground, bokeh too strong. I did another concept though

[limpid violet]

[strange gorge]

This picture should have the inpaint workflow

If you want to give that a shot

[limpid violet]

"Unstink Your Think."
Well, I found my mantra for the week.

[limpid violet]

Do I need to update comfy or download these specifically?

[snow pivot]

Do you have comfyui manager?

If so, you can select one of the options to install missing nodes

[twin copper]

Image wise what's the main place to go for all your generative and in painting and out painting needs? Or is it more fractured than other areas. I mostly go on replicate or hugging face but would be nice to have a poe equivalent that is sota image centric

[strange gorge]

Ah yeah leftover prompt from the catalogs I was making

[strange gorge]

I wouldn't be able to answer that question as I do local generations on my own hardware

[twin copper]

Is comfyui the main spot for image Gen ? By that I mean like for text people coalesce around chargpt and Claude consoles for everyday stuff, music suno, video is up in the air due to closed betas of the apparently sota models so there's pika and runway ml alpha 3.. Haven't tried kling AI yet though. Images is it flux that technically outperforms the others now ?

[snow pivot]

ComfyUI is the most feature-rich tool for local generation

[twin copper]

Feel you. I've tried that and continue with quant

[snow pivot]

It's also harder to get into

[twin copper]

But I just don't have the hardware for it yet . Tensorwave etc is the answer for me I guess

[strange gorge]

This forever. Once you clip (heh) over whatever that line is though, ComfyUI is swell

[twin copper]

Gotcha. Thanks

[snow pivot]

You can also get cheap community hosting on runpod

[strange gorge]

It took Flux before I really embraced Comfy

[snow pivot]

Still costs money to rent hardware

But it is an option

[twin copper]

Hmm. Yeah I spent a half day on comfy I got confused or tired at one point

I think it was extra complicated because I had all these special considerations due to hardware loll

[snow pivot]

My hardware isn't that good tbh, all I can really run is models based on 1.5

[twin copper]

Yeah that's true. I just want something to fairly future proof which is why I know people have their thoughts on closed source or the platforms like poe. But I embrace the stability

[snow pivot]

Although that is where all the community loras are

[twin copper]

This arena though even large companies cannot be trusted to not drastically overhaul for good reason as the research changes weekly

[snow pivot]

Well the issue with using third parties like that

Ye

[twin copper]

Frustrating if I were real dev tho

[snow pivot]

Companies like to change the terms after the sale

So they could easily turn all the models to crap

But with flux or sd 1.5

They're out there

And it can't be so easily taken away from you if you've downloaded it

So in a sense it's future proof

That's why I said 'crap' instead of another word

[twin copper]

Like how unis will go after students if startup was engineered on campus

[snow pivot]

Oh, do they do that?

[twin copper]

One of my msgs disappeared

[snow pivot]

That's scummy

Ya the bot removed it for language

[twin copper]

I was just saying the other danger is that if you're testing a model out on a platform like Gemini 1.5

[limpid violet]

I do now -- thank you for the recommendation ❤️ You rock 💜

[snow pivot]

Also if you dig through the settings there's apparently a new UI menu for comfyui

[twin copper]

What if you start down a path that becomes a serious company or idea later? But technically you agreed that they own your workflow and you use the free version. I could see certain companies hunting through their training data from users and then comparing it to the code of commercial stuff

[strange gorge]

Yeah the way you use ComfyUI is: download comfyUI install it, go install ComfyUI manager

[snow pivot]

I like it

[strange gorge]

THEN you are "done"

[twin copper]

That's what patent trolls do all day

[limpid violet]

It's so nice -- workflow dropdown legitimately improves my life.

[snow pivot]

I initially had a node for saving my workflows

But I do love it being native now

[twin copper]

Thanks. I only started on discord because tech companies decided it's their new customer support lol. I do like it I just don't know that swearing is bad

[snow pivot]

Some servers are more strict than others

[twin copper]

Native sounds nice. I'm going to have to puppeteer or something to back up my console chats only openai is up front about exports

[limpid violet]

So nice just having an "install missing nodes" button -- oof that UX 👌 🤌 🫦

comfyUI? More like comfyAF

[snow pivot]

If you use comfyui

[twin copper]

But with perplexity for example they flat out say we can't do it (obviously there is a reason and it's not an engineering brainteaser )

[snow pivot]

Any image you generate you can just drag back into it and it'll load the workflow you used to make it

[limpid violet]

ComfyUI tutorial websites are so OP because of this

[twin copper]

That's sweet

Image Gen is where it's at in a lot of ways once u r set up

[strange gorge]

It's how I keep workflows. Keep the picture around

[twin copper]

Sounds nifty

Flux is on poe and claims it's the best one now. But people come up w variants and that's what I miss out on I guess in part

Being non comfy

Also photorealism isn't only goal

[snow pivot]

Flux is prolly gonna take way longer unless it becomes more accessable

[twin copper]

It came out of nowhere lol . To me at least

[snow pivot]

A big team from stability ai left and developed this

[twin copper]

Oh really it's that much bigger

Ohhh

[snow pivot]

Since stability released the stinker that is sd3

After censoring the dataset to hell

[twin copper]

Okay yeah To be honest, it reached a certain point where with the right prompting stability and one or two other s reached photorealistic enough that I was still impressed. I stopped paying as much attention

Oh okay

[strange gorge]

Flux did come out of nowhere

Truly blind-sided everyone

right after Midjourney 6.1 as well which deflated its capabilities

[twin copper]

It's funny though, because people do realize when it's a private company they're going to be all sorts of compromises made a lot of splintering goes on and moving around

But I guess they do get basically training working at stability to then go off on their own. I assume stability is venture-backed. Maybe some of that is public Grant

[snow pivot]

Stability AI was just all about 'moral AI' which is another word for crippling the AI for public use so people can't make 'bad stuff' with it

[twin copper]

Yeah I feel like that's such a can of worms.

We are in the business of letting people make images of whatever they can imagine and we're going to put that limit on ourselves. Why not just say it's the responsibility of the user?

Except for the most extreme cases, obviously where you're going to get 99% agreement or it's against the law

[strange gorge]

Whatever their moral standing is, is fine. Whatever, that's their thing, company, whatever. The issue is that it truly breaks the model in strange and weird ways

[twin copper]

I didn't know they were micromanaging like that. Claude does that

[strange gorge]

Flux is also a ~PG~ model

but it knows what the human body is and thus knows context and thus can do things like make people stand or dance or whatever

No porn needed

[snow pivot]

It can still do explicit stuff from what I understand, it's just not specifically in the dataset

[twin copper]

Oh I see

[strange gorge]

Sure, you can't stop people from doing whatever they want to do

[twin copper]

Yeah, that is a informative source of training data, even if it is also what enables the model to accurately portray obscenity

They will try their best and it will be an arms race just like it is with content moderation on mainstream social media

[snow pivot]

I understand what you're saying, but censoring something that's supposedly all about being open and free because of an agenda is particularly nasty to me, especially when it so clearly affects the quality and coherency of the model.

[strange gorge]

Right and then SD3 is a joke

and now we have Flux which is not a joke, and thus the problem has been solved

[snow pivot]

Not exactly, vram requirements are chonky

Nothing beats the accessability of 1.5 rn

[strange gorge]

They sure are but if you have the VRAM

[twin copper]

Is flux from europe

I suppose I can just Google it right now

[strange gorge]

Probably?

[snow pivot]

Not to mention it'll be harder to train loras because of computation power

[strange gorge]

Stability was mostly european right

[twin copper]

Lol. I'm just wondering about ownership structure because ultimately that's what's going to inform the morality stances or lack thereof

At least American companies. They tend to enforce standards above and beyond what the law says except Elon musk with grok

[snow pivot]

....?

[twin copper]

I'm not sure. I know Mistral is French

[snow pivot]

Companies have been downright tyrannical lately

[strange gorge]

Never trust a company

[twin copper]

It's also I think overcompensating because liability is the number one consideration at almost every company except tech companies. It might be number two

[snow pivot]

^

[snow pivot]

No they don't care, they'll actually commit crimes because they know the cost is less that what the class action/slap on the wrist will be.

[twin copper]

I just think it becomes a problem when your model is one of the most widely used in the world and you're applying your own moral standards to it. Why not wash your hands of anything like that? And the only standards enforce are the ones that the legal jurisdiction you're in forces you to

Once you start playing morality games, you will become a hypocrite in the future and the subject of rightful criticism

[strange gorge]

Because people are short-sighted, companies are run by those people, ergo they make the same mistakes people do over and over and over and over and over again

If they weren't we'd still have Blockbuster and Sears and Montgomery Ward

[snow pivot]

Gemini made a similar mistake by inserting DEI into their model

[twin copper]

Well also, if they're public they tend to be more spineless

[snow pivot]

It turned many of the prompts quite.... bad for their image

[twin copper]

Because all of the biggest asset managers like BlackRock the big pension funds if they on 20% of the stock can pull out on the basis of dei disagreement. Now your stock is plummeting

[snow pivot]

Yeah blackrock is a big part of this for sure

Yeah that's the reason i'm tip toeing around the language here

[twin copper]

I mean I don't want to make them the bogeyman that everyone tries to. They are one of the biggest asset managers but right next to them is vanguard California public employee pension

Haha ok my bad

[snow pivot]

I mean they are tho, they throw so much money at pushing their morals on others

Many of the DEI things in movies and games are coming because of their investments

They want to change opinion by force

[twin copper]

Yeah and I know plenty of people that work there have worked there and I can guarantee you the senior Management in the board of directors for the most part couldn't care less about any of that

Or they're just normal like do the right thing but for whatever reason it's become a big part of their brand. ESG

I think it's partly a genuine organic cultural thing that has been rising up through the financial sector, but I don't understand why else they would go along with that because there was tricks their options. So much. Big pension funds can be big investors in Black croc funds though and they might mandate ESG requirements so who knows

Because it restricted their options *

Anyway lol

[snow pivot]

I don't really think it's genuine tho, there's only a very small subset of people that approve of DEI because it's just the inverse of the spectrum

Like it's the same thing that happened in like the 30s and 50s except inverted

Disney is a prime example of that

[twin copper]

Yeah, I think the vast majority of people agree at a high level on principles of treating people. Well being a good person. Then he gets more specific and dogmatic. And you have the true believers, you have the people going along because if they don't that's going to be awkward for them or make them seem ideologically opposed due to racism or whatever, didn't there other people that are neutral but it's become their thing. So what are they going to do if it goes away?

It's an interesting way of looking at it

Disney comment

[snow pivot]

They're also using it as a shield against the inevitable backlash from projects like this that don't hire because of talent, but because they have the 'look' they are going for

Acolyte is an absolute garbage fire

And they attack anyone who says that, saying it's bigotry

[twin copper]

Yeah, at a certain point certain people and certain companies or organizations are so clearly toxic and engaged in gaslighting, but in the current climate the fact that they can get away with it tells you it is a unique. Period in history that will likely subside.

[snow pivot]

Hopefully you're right

[twin copper]

Well I hope so too. The other option is it spirals out of control and takes hold of western society for a while like a century

The tragedy of it all is I think most people are on the same page but there isn't enough open communication because of the undrawn lines

So the tyranny of the vocal minority wins out because it's the only standard being articulated

I didn't realize it had become such an issue with so many models, though. I knew it was with Gemini but Google has a big management and cultural problem in general

[limpid violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159929934270181437/1271101956810866759/-5y4AwaUv1ubze2VoCK3-.png?ex=66b61d72&is=66b4cbf2&hm=a471ee7612bcb5e44b817a62779ad1a03782e23e6e746f802e26445bdb6dab92& Frog1 or Frog2?

[iron light]

🍓

[twin copper]

Both are winners

Gotta go w 2 though

[snow pivot]

It is more dynamic

[fluid field]

I love the doot doot

[snow pivot]

I chose the first one because it looks more like an album cover, but I do think the second one is more creatively interesting

[twin copper]

Fair

First one does kind of look more in the album cover

[limpid violet]

@snow pivot you just gave me a brilliant idea

[twin copper]

Indie

[limpid violet]

@fluid field 💜 love you, but accidentally pinged, sorry about that

[fluid field]

It’s fine!

[twin copper]

So many rules and etiquettes on discords

It is easy to do stuff the default settings are hilarious to me it's easy to wander onto a big call

But I'm glad I was forced to join cause so much interesting stuff happens on discord

But a lot going on visually

[ashen fjord]

It is called discord, not harmony, for a reason :X

[twin copper]

Oopss

Trueee

You were making a pun right? lol I looked up harmony thinking it was another platform

[snow pivot]

Discord is disharmony, or chaos

[twin copper]

Are there servers where bad stuff goes down

[snow pivot]

That's what the word means

[twin copper]

No yeah I get it now haha

Harmony just sounded tech y to me

Kinda forgot discord is musical too

As in discordant vs harmonious

Sorry in lame

[ashen fjord]

I couldn't remember Discord's old project name so I had to make a pun 🫂

[twin copper]

That's okay it was a good one

Didn't know it had an old name

[snow pivot]

It just wooshed

[twin copper]

I thought it was just gamers and stuff

[ashen fjord]

Saw it on one of those startup tips

[twin copper]

Like that's a big world on its own

[limpid violet]

@snow pivot @fluid field, okay final round. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159929934270181437/1271125202368991254/trumpetfrog1.png?ex=66b63318&is=66b4e198&hm=911025182d4fa22436bd070f83c87ee0ab930f11626800bae0d0c4df505faf83& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159929934270181437/1271101956810866759/-5y4AwaUv1ubze2VoCK3-.png?ex=66b61d72&is=66b4cbf2&hm=a471ee7612bcb5e44b817a62779ad1a03782e23e6e746f802e26445bdb6dab92&

[twin copper]

First one splite the difference

[limpid violet]

I kept forgetting that we're in the future, and I can just place the frog wherever I want.

[twin copper]

Third is a bit too polished depends what you're going for

Like 3rd one is Pixar

Middle is more grunge or underground chilll the lighting is a bit off

1st is safe gets everyone on board brand wise

[fluid field]

Because of my newest song, I want churros now

[twin copper]

Yumm

[limpid violet]

Yeah, the frog in the first 2 is a definite winner, and I think I liked the idea of "flutter" in the background instead of being pasted like an explicit title -- but I agree with Scissor Sisters that #2 just looks like an album cover.

[twin copper]

Yeah it looks the least Gen AI too

Does suno allow talk about their huge lawsuit lol

Sorry off topic but it is that section. I find these servers tend to be a tad authoritarian

[limpid violet]

Their lawyers released a pimp-slap 😛 It made for amazing reading

[twin copper]

But they could be shuttered depending on what the outcome is.

Really lol

[fluid field]

I read the docket last night, it’s amazing

[snow pivot]

Oo, did they?

[twin copper]

I'll read it. They have to get the public on their side for sure.

I'm worried because the legal arguments are stronger in this case than against the other model types

If they lose itll appeal tho they will grow as big as possible in meantime

[fluid field]

Here’s one from Suno

[snow pivot]

I'm more worried because the music industry is an absolute monster

[limpid violet]

It's obviously a sensitive topic to bring up in polite company, especially if it's only being brought up for negative speculation, but it's an AMAZING rebuttal.

[snow pivot]

Disgusting people

[twin copper]

Haha I see both sides

[limpid violet]

Remember when the RIAA tried to sue Limewire for ~$72,000,000,000,000 (72 trillion, more money than has ever existed on Earth)?

Yeah, they don't exactly have a pristine litigious history...

[twin copper]

That's absurd and such a bad move PR wise

[snow pivot]

I'll never side with the music industry

[twin copper]

They have an argument to make unfortunately. But I want to live in a world where generative music is good

[snow pivot]

I don't really see them having any real leg to stand on

[twin copper]

At the end of the day it won't stop the technology from progressing but it will be open source and underground

[snow pivot]

Cuz we both know they'll just take the model and monopolize it

[twin copper]

It's partly because the ownership of the music that was used for training is so concentrated

[fluid field]

Final one that I read last night

[limpid violet]

Fear stemming from the disruption of a monopolized revenue stream? Mind you, it's a wobbly freshly-born deer leg, but they're trying, damnit.

[twin copper]

Yeah that's a good argument

[snow pivot]

That is a great rebuttal but the way companies these big operate is they slap you with the suit and drown you in legal fees

[twin copper]

It's a stronger argument to make for chatgpt though than for music

[limpid violet]

@twin copper #🗣️┃chill-chat message

[twin copper]

The first one accusing them of monopolistic practices is good imo

[limpid violet]

There's the legal documents, a Reuters article, and a billboard.com article

[twin copper]

2nd one isn't as sound because people don't learn about music or rather how to play music from listening to it. They have to engage with an instrument

[limpid violet]

Get some popcorn before you read it

[twin copper]

Whereas you can learn about physics just by reading a book online. And the publishers of the textbook online. Don't have a stake in all your physics related revenues in the future

Kk lol

[limpid violet]

Are you implying that you can't understand music without having played it? Are war historians illegitimate unless they've seen action?

[twin copper]

No I'm not saying that. But what these models are doing is creating music

I don't think the lawsuit would have happened if they were trained on the music for the purposes of being music commentators

[limpid violet]

You can do the same thing inside your head -- the educational-bar-of-entry was previously needing to invest the time and energy into learning the instrument, but you could imagine anything.

This allows you to turn the songs you hear inside your head into actual music.

[twin copper]

I think It ultimately wouldn't make sense to side with the music labels though

[limpid violet]

Educational Bar of Entry lowered.

[twin copper]

Actually I don't know what I think I know what the outcome I want is but that's different

[limpid violet]

You're right, not everyone's experience or use of Suno is the same nor are their song-production processes, but just sharing that it's absolutely possible to create music without having classic training -- now you're just able to achieve musical expressive freedom ❤️

[twin copper]

Yeah true. You know I guess it really comes down to is if the generated music can be proven to be disproportionately past some threshold of similarity that reasonable people would agree on with some identifiable source music they own

I don't think they could ever prove that because it's almost always completely original music. They are just mad that it was trained on their property and potentially will put them out of business if they don't adapt within decades

[fluid field]

I mean, I’ve made music before, all by ear, no classical training, and no music theory

[twin copper]

I 100% agree. It's a good thing for humanity. It's a net net positive for suno to go on existing and thriving and other companies to engage in these practices a

Yeah I get your point. But you can't scale yourself just on a practical level. It's not like from having heard the song. You were then doing 10 million performances of it a year and revenue is being generated from that

Either way, I don't think it's much of a problem. It's just a roadblock.

If they lose on this, I mean they can spend a bunch of money to have original music composed. Then from that they can syndicate a bunch of more original music

And I would might even be the case that just from first principles, knowing musical theory and being trained on what is pleasant to the human ear, that models would flourish and arrive at some of the genres that we have in human history, but perhaps totally new ones as well

Music industry is just so stupid how they've run their business. They are one of the most beloved things in the world. It is the intellectual property they own, and they can't figure out how to monetize it other than sending Taylor Swift around the world and taking like 10%

And yes they are greedy, greedier shaun an average industry I would say but it's because they are too stupid to make money any other way. Way. Example, the 360 deals that they used to get away with more often, if they signed a musician they would get a percent not just of their music. But if they became became a spokesperson for some brand or became a professional golfer, I'll decide stuff and of course, film and television

So I agree with you. You guys in the sense that they brought this upon themselves. Why didn't they train their own models on their own intellectual property?

Sorry for typos. Voice typing because bad hand issue

I was just saying above that music labels which generally are offshoots of larger conglomerates like Warner Brothers. For example, it became the norm and it might still be that they own a percentage of all income from all sources of the artists they sign, which is just a clear abuse of their market position regarding how they treat their talent. It works out fine for Taylor Swift and people at that level, but there are bands that become kind of famous or have a couple good years and they don't on their masters etc

Own* so it's just kind of greedy. When Warner Brothers makes a movie and then wants to license a Warner Brothers song they have to pay that division of Warner Brothers that tells you to level these people are operating at

Okay now I'll shut up and read all the stuff lol. Thank you for coming to my TED talk

[limpid violet]

Because they can't figure out how to own all of the creations that the AI would make, so they'd rather people just never had the opportunity... something, something, means of production?

[vale lake]

man, flux is so cool

[vale lake]

ooooooh

[vale lake]

lllyasviel apparently is adding support for it to forge

[vale lake]

just post an entire CNN article and see how much we get hahaha

[vale lake]

I'd be less worried about that aspect and more about the US being notoriously pro-trust recently in a way that indicates a large scale breakdown of, well, rule of law. But in a "lawful" way.

But it will still depends on a lot of factors

like, its in the US best interest to keep AI unfettered AT ALL

buuuut US bodies no longer seem to even act in the national interest

its a weird time, historically. Pretty unprecedented bc of the internet, and the way it has likely streamlined things like blackmail

but in this case, its mostly US corporate interest vs other corporate interest, with some national interest mixed in but tangential, since Suno is not really a prime issue in comparison with regulating LLMs

[vale lake]

I'd like to introduce you to the regulatory capture that is google.

But really though, massive corporations act the same as any other organism. The goal is to thrive with as little effort as possible, and a competitive market, ironically, is effectively commited to its own annihilation, inasmuch as if YOU don't play dirty, the other guy who does is the one who will win. Its natural selection.

So the music industry is just trying to do the same. The issue of course is this type of behavior, once it succeeds, leads to a failure of the company that achieved capture, since it no longer has any selective pressure on it. Anyway, that's my wierd rant for the day.

Suffice to say, the "industry" predictably didn't invest in new products bc they are making money without doing so, and over time have become dysfunctional. When your primary mechanism of survival (Google) is just to buy any company that could touch a service you run, its only effective if the competition is willing to sell, and with AI its harder since these companies are likely to replace the existing ones. Their upside is intangible.

[snow pivot]

That too

[twin copper]

Music industry actually doesn't make as much money as they could or should. But yes, in general it has reached a point of decadence that doesn't seem to have taken any offensive. EG. R&d or innovation are defensive measures in anticipation of the development of audio models trained on their property

Or defensive*

My observation is that the entertainment industry operates a little less. Strictly in some circumstances in classical economics might otherwise predict. The competition isn't near perfect and the actors are not always rational

On the content side, that is all changing because Netflix and Amazon entered distribution. They obviously have very different cultures internally and can attract a different kind of talent to do things that legacy Hollywood studios would never do or think to do themselves. Yet other than Disney the major studios aren't visibly resisting their humiliating marginalization by guys that were selling DVDs out of a garage 20 years ago to him. They licensed a bunch of content for pennies on the dollar was zero. Curiosity about what they might possibly be up to

The dollar with *

I think that there's probably going to be a lot of consolidation at lower valuations Anyone is predicting, The streamers also are better capitalized and are probably going to get aggressive taking over the production side of the business as well. Which leaves the studios as Custodians of IP . Spotify is the big winner in music. Making more money than anyone, although it seems Amazon and YouTube/google are making an honest play for music space. I don't see how Spotify could mess up so badly to lose much market share of the streaming music market though, podcasts and audiobooks they are slower on. Star power much more of a thing in music still than it is in film and television. I would say so. That is one Black swan potentially that could substantially influence Dynamics there. This is all absent enough knowledge about legitimate blockchain applications and web3 stuff brewing on the music side. And who knows if the suno case drags on and ultimately changes anything.

[fluid field]

can anyone guess which song is not like the others?

[upper bramble]

寝る前に聴くチルなLoFi Music 🌃 [LoFi HipHop Chill] beats to relax / sleep
https://youtu.be/kt90mzEbEtk

[devout leaf]

Churro Wonderland, it's the only food song.

[fluid field]

True! In a sea of pop songs

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cyloLZ4bs0

[vale lake]

@strange gorge a skull for your collection

part of my "stunt on flux" series where i take civitai prompts that were made with flux, and just absolutely wreck their sh-- with my five dollar lora

[strange gorge]

sorry you can't run Flux 😏

[vale lake]

hehehe

you cuaght me

[strange gorge]

Really though

SD is always going to be extremely nuts and bolts-ies

[vale lake]

these are direct hi res gens

also, this is basically a magic card

ok, time to take on the brocolli man

idk if I'll be able to quick gen that

nope, it just gave him a massive brocolli dong

[strange gorge]

hell yeah

I mean

ugh gross dude what the heck!!

[vale lake]

dude, I wish I could share these

https://civitai.com/images/23174531

here's the one I just tried for

close up cinematic photo, a text title movie poster "Game of Bones", a dog with a giant bone in its mouth, wearing medieval armor, crown, sitting on a iron throne, light fog, highly detailed, parody movie poster, a digital movie poster illustration, game of thrones

[strange gorge]

right up my alley

[vale lake]

now, it nailed the prompt

[strange gorge]

both ways

\

[vale lake]

the issue is, the dog is s-- his own ---

[strange gorge]

a shameful dog

[vale lake]

its technically right though

like, it passed the prompt

and also, made me laugh harder than I have all week

I really do like flux though

its ssoooooo smart

and immediate

its going to really change things

[strange gorge]

Did you see the one I made for Falcon?

[vale lake]

so excited for it to come to forge

[strange gorge]

He wasn't impressed, the git

[vale lake]

no, what was it?

[vale lake]

this is v 1980s

is he a yungun?

spits off porch

[strange gorge]

Took me about 15~ minutes to whip it together with inpainting to hide the AI-stuff and since I don't Asia of any flavor that all looks good to my dumb white eyes

[vale lake]

ah, and he informed you its actually a recipe for thermite?

[strange gorge]

Actually let's wave good translate over it

I have my doubts, Google Translate

a moment ago it was something different that seemed to describe the image itself

[west hull]

Dang it! I WISH IT was an an anime, I would watch it! Way better than the ugly half baked anime they make today

[umbral wadi]

With image to video it could be an anime with some effort...

whistles innocently

[fluid field]

I mean someone almost thought this was from a gacha game ad, but nope

[pearl mirage]

i try upload this to youtube. but you all can see it for now and let me know what you think

[umbral wadi]

Transition is a bit rough. Do you have access to a video editor with a cross-dissolve transition?

What did you make the video in?

[fluid field]

What’s a good program to make the videos in?

I have a massive backlog of songs

[pearl mirage]

sadly no. i use tool what i got 🙂

i use window 11 video editor

[umbral wadi]

What was the video itself generated with?

[pearl mirage]

aitubo.ai. tell you truth. they need lot of work with there Video AI. it cost a lot too

may not use that again see it still need work on

[umbral wadi]

Do you mind if I try something?

[pearl mirage]

it made by AI go for it. there no copyright at all

well, i better get going. i be back after work

[umbral wadi]

No promises but let me see what I can do...if anything.

[pearl mirage]

make sure you DM me soon you temp what ever you doing

[umbral wadi]

That's the plan.

[pearl mirage]

be easier this way 🙂

if you want copy sound and video by it self. i can send it

[umbral wadi]

Let me see if I can smooth that loop first. Not everything can be made to loop. I've tried and failed quite a few times on my own projects so I know.

[pearl mirage]

k

[umbral wadi]

Editing or generating?

[vale lake]

for all you anime fans

a halfling

also this is so MTV

that wolf is def animated, and we're def running from the cops

[strange gorge]

the wolf IS the cop

[fluid field]

Generating, I have davinci resolve for editing

[devout leaf]

Davinci resolve ❤️

Been using it for a few years, love it for video editing as much as Krita for digital paints

[strange gorge]

I used Krita for a hot minute when it was THE place to run Stable Diffusion internally but ended up going back to Photoshop and running SDXL inside that

[devout leaf]

I digital paint 18+ years so no need for image generation in my art software 🤭

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_Hb8EewC4

https://tenor.com/view/devilman-gif-26313230

[strange gorge]

Photo editing for me so also an ultra boon. Content Aware on steroid's

[limpid bane]

im making a social media platform should i make it short-form or long-form? react with 🔴 for long form, 🔵 for short form.

[umbral wadi]

If you're looking for a series of clips you can then arrange to a narrative, Noisee can work well for you if you're willing to farm it a bit. You need to either use a link or upload a song and drag the slider according to your length (max 1min) and give it some descriptive text. It works better with an image reference but that will take a subscription. The best thing about Noisee is you can occasionally get a clip in it that is brilliant for looping.

Moonvalley was the first I really used to any effect and it took a long long time. I used them twice and only went text to video. It is slow even with a premium account (I won their contest in February so I got to see what it was like) and I no longer use it for that reason. I have also moved on to image to video and they dropped that from their lineup. The people are really friendly and I like them so I wish I could say nicer things about their service. 😦

PixVerse is good for text to video and if you are able to get consistent results in that manner works good there, it also does a decent job of image to video which is where I tend to use it. It has an amazing tool, Magic Brush which reminds of some of the stuff RunwayML does. It's relatively inexpensive for what it offers which is decent speed on generations most of the time and it has the ability to upscale its clips to 4K.

I should mention that I am a Discord mod for both Noisee and for PixVerse. These both have a Discord version and a website version. I tend to prefer their website version. I believe Moonvalley is still Discord only. I haven't looked into them for a few weeks.

Kaiber AI which I also used a bit has some of the nicest mods and their tools are decently easy to use if you like the transforming effect where stuff shifts. Some people do and some don't. They have been one of the only services I know that have rollover credits.

I tested Luma (as you can see above) and I'm not currently too impressed especially considering their pricing at this point. Pika just annoys me and I've avoided using it for a while now. YMMV and the source of irritation may improve soon and I'll evaluate based on that.

Viggle is great at what it does but your time keeps getting shorter. Might be worth using for some scenes though if you can plan them out.

LTX Studios didn't impress me beyond the interface and I was significantly underwhelmed by their pricing plans for what they were delivering.

Hedra is something I have used a few times now and I intend to keep using as long as it keeps working for me. A rare service I actually look forward to getting a paying account on because I am so happy with their work.

TokkingHeads was good before Hedra showed up and I used them despite how stiff their tool was, but unfortunately the company has pivoted to AI game development so despite still maintaing the tool it is effectly no longer in service.

I'm The Hepcat, A.I. and I thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. Happy creating! 😺

Oh! And all the above is my personal opinion and do not reflect the thoughts of any Discord I may be associated with or services that I use.

[fluid field]

I’ll look into some after work, but thanks for the options!

[umbral wadi]

Glad to have been of assistance. I look forward to seeing what you make.

[fluid field]

I’m going to try to see if I can make some for my songs

If not, I can do something in FL Studio

[strange gorge]

Flux is real powerful and cool and good and can run locally but I also am fortunate enough to have a 4090 and a pretty decent computer so

It isn't a light thing to run

[mossy tide]

I have a 4070Ti is there hope?

Maybe if I figure out how other people got to run it at 8 VRAM

But God the 4090 is overpriced

[strange gorge]

Oh it is

I bought it at the 'bottom' if there is ever such a thing

[mossy tide]

I'm pretty sure AMD has been catching up and can do AI inference on Windows

[strange gorge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1ehqr4r/you_can_run_flux_on_12gb_vram/

I'm sure that is not the case, re: AMD

If you roll Linux then I think so

[mossy tide]

I will save this

[strange gorge]

But if you're on windows it's still an NVIDIA playground

[mossy tide]

I thought there was an A1111 fork for AMD specifically

[strange gorge]

A1111 is for scrubs and chumps, haven't you heard

[mossy tide]

I use ForgeUI

[strange gorge]

I am not sure what A1111 does these days as I normally had used Forge, which is 'A1111 but doesn't suck'

Yeah exactly

[mossy tide]

I thought you were gonna bring up ComfyUI and like

[strange gorge]

a bit of Focuuus or whatever it's called

Oh Flux is ComfyUI

I'm a convert now, Flux brought me there

[mossy tide]

It's cool I guess but I can't be bothered to learn how to use this convoluted thing all by myself

[strange gorge]

Flux is all comfy all the time. The dude behind Forge should have support for it in there soon enough

[mossy tide]

I did get ComfyUI to test SD3 and see how terrible it is at people

[strange gorge]

But Flux was enough to push my ancient-ass to learn a new thing

Flux has such massive improvements in just prompt adherence

and can do things no other generative AI has been able to, yet

[mossy tide]

If it can make a man lie on grass then it's already an improvement

Or a woman

[strange gorge]

It can, it knows anatomy quite well

But it can do things like this

[mossy tide]

It's such a funny example honestly, a meme

Oh damn

[strange gorge]

Specifically look at those computers

Those are the same one

In one generation

Yeah yeah her hands fine cool

[mossy tide]

And the keys don't look messed up

[strange gorge]

Right

It's just better to such an absurd degree for things like this

I asked it for everyhting you see

The tagline, the logo in the lower right (though I didn't specificy what the logo should be)

[mossy tide]

How can I spoiler-tag an image on mobile?

[strange gorge]

I uhhh

Don't know

[mossy tide]

Why has Discord not added this feature for years what the hell

[strange gorge]

lmao

[mossy tide]

Stop redesigning the app and add basic bulldust to your app God

[strange gorge]

You can DM me the image and I can post it here spoilered it if you'd like

[mossy tide]

Sure

I think you need to send me a friend request

[strange gorge]

outrageous

[mossy tide]

Can't send DMs or a request

[strange gorge]

Can't ad you either, rip

anyway

Flux is real neato

and you don't have to like, pick one or the other. Mix em' up

[mossy tide]

Hmm

I mean the image isn't NSFW at all it's just...

A reminder of what SD3 thinks people lying on grass look like

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/4ZsoqngugY

That's spoilered enough

its actually quite intelligent. The idea is that if you're laying in the grass you likely got ran over by a lawn mower.

• random user

[strange gorge]

Flux has no such issues, even though it's been sanitized

Weird how it's plenty possible

[mossy tide]

If it can be finetuned

Then, lol

[strange gorge]

It's a lot more expensive, but yeah, it can be

[devout leaf]

Ew he brought up AMD

Banished to kanye discussion 😂

[dense folio]

An hour up, lemme resume this chat! Nashville... what?

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-1807502725802114204

[dense folio]

A ghost town... or a little music town?

[dense folio]

Full song:

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/gates-open-moo-cow-running-gif-15420220

[fluid field]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-cat-amazed-cat-hypnotized-hypnotized-cat-gif-23851821

[umbral leaf]

Could anyone help out with why I keep getting this error? 😭

[fluid field]

How often has it happened?

[umbral leaf]

It's happened like 5x in a row now

I've gotten another saying it got stuck with the generation

[fluid field]

Hmm, I’ve gotten that a couple times, but not as frequently, have you tried refreshing the page?

[umbral leaf]

Yeah. It seemed to fix it for the time being 🙏

[fluid field]

Did they appear?

[limpid violet]

"...why do I have 10 of the same song suddenly appearing in my library?"

[fluid field]

I seemed to have helped find a solution for the time being

[limpid violet]

My first suggestion was going to be threatening the computer, or staring menacingly, so you seem to have taken a more successful route than I would have.

[cedar elm]

'Merica + Olympic basketball = 🥇🥇🥇

[west hull]

when is suno gonna upgrade to udio level vocal quality

[frosty obsidian]

we rich baby! 😄 😄 😄

[sweet burrow]

got one of the silliest "after the song is over" hallucinations that I had to share... 100% unrelated to the song...

[frosty obsidian]

cough cough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4eBqaS-ap0

it's a producer tag. better report it to the team.

[charred warren]

oh damn!

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_Hb8EewC4

https://tenor.com/view/muhtişim-gif-21960984

[proper trout]

https://youtu.be/H6wxBLA9M5U

[limpid violet]

@hollow leaf

[viscid root]

sleepy cat

[limpid violet]

@viral flame, sorry to bug 🙏 was there a ping for me that got deleted in here?

[viral flame]

It's no bother at all. I don't see anyting in this chanell, but you were pinged here a couple minutes ago:
#📚┃suno-school message

[limpid violet]

Thanks, I saw that but hadn't opened tech-chat yet 🙂 There was a red indicator for off-topic, but since this is a goofy channel, I wasn't particularly worried I'd missed anything important 😛

[hasty hound]

good morning 🙂

[limpid violet]

G'marnin'!

How are things in AU?

[hasty hound]

cold right now at 9.37pm

[limpid violet]

me right now https://youtu.be/N_dVmeQnj9w

I also happen to be a Tyrannosaurus before 10am.

[limpid violet]

I'd almost pay for a cooler evening -- it's been really muggy out this way recently 🥵

[hasty hound]

I am happy to swap, I hate winter

[limpid violet]

Cool -- packing my things now, going to leave the furniture and larger appliances -- leave the key under the mat for me and I'll leave the sliding door unlocked. ❤️ 🙏

[hasty hound]

my place comes with a Clydesdale named Daisy, she is fed in the morning and late afternoon. She needs regular exercise and a farrier every 8 months or so

and two cats and two dogs

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-break-gif-6269967204638541467

[vale lake]

oh I see how it is buckaroo

well, i have a new album

it's mostly the ones people like

just came out moments ago as far as I can tell, I'm on the way to urgent care bc my hearts being too awesome 👌

[high stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwIWJIdpNFs&list=RDEMWUbu7UjvrEYUSE4m8ATOcw&index=3

i want to know if its possible to have like a reverby effect like this?

in suno?

[dense folio]

I'm addicted to Nashville that I even made AI songs about it!

[hasty hound]

probably better posted in #🐣┃suno-showcase than here

[limpid violet]

"seedling"?

[vale lake]

seedlings

[limpid violet]

my shame knows no bounds

[limpid violet]

hot damn that's cool 🙂

Who's your distribution partner?

[vale lake]

distro

they're p chill

[limpid violet]

what legends.

[vale lake]

I'm just glad thus far they seem cool w/ ai

[limpid violet]

I knew I was going to vibe with them when the dancing in my first "marcel" video timed up with the song picking up pace

[limpid violet]

I'm deleting this in a couple because I don't want to encourage hordes of similar content, but just to share because it still makes me laugh

[vale lake]

oh yea that one gets very intense

in terms of the poppiness

ooh, what song is this one?

I like

[limpid violet]

I start dancing at the same time, so seeing them do the same thing in the video, especially with absolutely zero planning or even knowing what "marcel" meant at the time, it just felt like a warm hug from a company I'd just found out about

[vale lake]

got a lil bit of that math in it

very like, built to Spill

[limpid violet]

I think that's 10. all your favourite places

[vale lake]

from what album?

that's not mine, must be someone else

with the same album 😄

[limpid violet]

It's track 10 from 'first dates, bikes & skates, stay-up-lates' ❤️

very much an indie-math kinda thing -- "sidewalk surfboard" is another one that really leans into the math-side of things

Thanks for encouraging a quick ramble about my music 😄 ❤️ I'm gonna check out "seedlings" now 🙂

[limpid violet]

Oh, I think we had a "whose on first" sort of thing, "all your favourite places" is the name of the track 😅

[limpid violet]

Oooh, not on Apple Music yet -- usually they're the first to go live for me, you must be one of the lucky few who gets extra review. 😮

[hasty hound]

in my experience it's first on Spotify then Apple Music followed by Amazon

Spotify is pretty useless with how little they pay

ultimate rip off platform

[pliant estuary]

https://www.udio.com/songs/hXNZkk7vuWbH7wfuqtXid3

New song out for double users!

[dense folio]

Can you hear 'the Grand Ole Opry' in this song? (Cannot upload in the general-suno channel)

[unkempt vine]

https://tenor.com/view/jey-uso-fastlane-main-event-jey-uso-2023-wwe-gif-9203596314341442424

[vale lake]

yea, also I didn't set a release date

I always tell myself I need to

but then I'll just never release

so I end up just pushing it live, bc frankly if people aren't recommending it then its not good enough anyway imo

[robust wadi]

yo

[limpid violet]

That makes sense, I ended up listening to the Alignment Problem EP and enjoyed it 🙂

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGehixaDOI

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-gif-24272188

[cyan cloud]

wait is tiktok bamboozled here?

i guess suno doesnt like if you make the songs into videos then lol

[pearl mirage]

look at all tho great thumbnail :))

[proper trout]

Listen the song and if you guys like it then don't forget to subscribe
https://youtu.be/WaiEZlQgaJw?si=3p6HQwxW3qazh7il

[lusty inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xl_9KIAdRZk

Music by Sumo!

[hasty hound]

Video unavailable
Playback on other websites has been disabled by the video owner

[austere tree]

I know that some people here produce, i started doing beats back in may and did my first try at boom bap today, would like your opinion on that beat and what need to be improved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0m5VVGq0sg

[vestal raven]

I see a pattern in these desings, all of them are rectangular!🤣

[devout leaf]

People are so rude -_-

[west hull]

homemade playlist to vibe, vent or die ~

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnkmXum-b_iDJE1u9g0lAws-2tqLuWbz9

[umbral wadi]

I just wanted to mention this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoTubers/

For those of us with YouTube channels making music videos. I have nothing to do with the subreddit and it is not an official subreddit or anything but I think it's always nice to have a place to share your stuff with like minded people.

[viscid root]

Noticed these two buttons autoplay and Rewind ? @fast rivet

not sure if they are meant to look like that

[hasty hound]

This is Aiva

[limpid violet]

...and now I need to watch the original Pirates of the Caribbean 😛 This is cool!

[limpid violet]

...how is Flux so cool?

[west hull]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-gaming-bye-tracer-teleport-gif-17044274

[viscid root]

same goes for ideogram u can get decent art from the right prompt

Though i liked this one a bit more

[limpid violet]

Can't decide between the two, but I think I prefer the first. If this is just a peek at what's possible, instead of an outlier, I'm really excited for the future of generative AI 👀

[pliant estuary]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xaHMJapn6QE?si=GhAj0smU83HnaLgs

[viscid solstice]

Thank you

[umbral wadi]

Did this really seem to be PG-13 to you?

[fluid field]

I’m getting back into learning Japanese

[grand solar]

[fluid field]

Hey there!

[grand solar]

[charred warren]

old suno meat song

[fresh aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXLObAy8yQ Written by me and made with Suno Ai.

[sleek bloom]

https://youtu.be/JEjx5GD9feM?si=NXOd8pVUJ-mDxigR

[solid trench]

Thumbnail for my new song
Ref gen

[grim stirrup]

Hi

[runic dune]

@ashen fjord Do you by chance have Diluc or Venti?

[ashen fjord]

Yes and all the archon though it has been a while since I played

Well, the ones released this far anyways

[runic dune]

Wow , That's Awesome , I haven't played it either in Forever , I think it's been a couple years

I do have Ninguang & I forget some of the other ones that I have

[ashen fjord]

I would love to play it more but the game had gotten so big that I couldn't install it for a long time (since like after Inuzuka)

[runic dune]

That's the main reason why I don't have it installed , it's a big game

[ashen fjord]

Here is my character list (gotten from hoyolabs)

[runic dune]

holy cow , I used to just spend a ton of time collecting acorns , and apples and other mats

those orange berries

[ashen fjord]

I remember doing a lot of exploring. Especially the cliffs at the beginning, and when reaching the top, running for my life from the high level mobs (or Paimon telling me that we can't go to a certain region yet)

[fluid field]

I should get back in Genshin

[runic dune]

This Pink Car is following me all over the place in the SUNO picture Generations ...

[hoary wind]

That'll be the AI's private investigator keeping an eye on you

[runic dune]

Probably , in The Parallel AI SUNOverse

[mossy tide]

The Luma Dream Machine experience:

"Created about 19 hours ago"
In Queue

And I bet the result will be trash too 🙂🫠💀

For one 5-second video.

And the lowest subscription tier is like $30

Waited an entire day for another video. Put a starting and ending frame.
Prompt: Beautiful footage, zooming in from a distant galaxy into landscapes of wonder.
Result:

I waited an entire day for what I could recreate in any video editor in 2 minutes

Linear panning & then a fading transition effect

[strong star]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy tide]

Yep

That's me when I think to myself, "Welp, I'm switching to Kling AI"

Video generation may get better at least. Right now it may be in the "SD 1.5 and Dall-E 2" phase.

Image generators were akin to toys in the past

Now they can make things like these:

[vast crescent]

Created this from a prompt about a bad shot of whisky, using MS designer...did a pretty good job i have to say considering its Ai

[limpid violet]

Dear lord -- I honestly thought I would be stuck making stick figures for the rest of my life -- I know it's an entirely different creative process than actually learning how to draw, but being able to describe an image and have it created in front of your eyes in seconds IS science fiction magic, and I will always see it that way.

[runic dune]

I love this Art SUNO Created for this track I Prompted

Such deep Sub-Bass on it too

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-jake-whoiam-gif-10888118

@viral flame

[edgy plover]

yeah i was only sharing a profile woodhouse not a comercial but okay

[teal copper]

bikini cat
why did I make this image...