#🗣️┃chill-chat

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limpid violet
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Like, it's the gift that just keeps on giving.

umbral wadi
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Suno admits that Suno, Inc. is a Delaware corporation

It admits it???

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A Delaware corporation? Really?

split granite
fresh aurora
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First ever AI Movie is coming and Suno Ai is part of this. Along with Hedra and others. I also using Resolve and capcut. So much in this. If it was not for the ai Companies for everything this could not happen. Thank you Suno Ai. Everyone play a part in this. Stay tune to oct 31st 2024. When the movie comes out. If it has to be push back ill let you know.

limpid violet
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When did you start production on it? Waymark Creative Labs released a movie generated through the use of dalle2 last may https://youtu.be/IgPvoPBrlTE

IN THE ICY DEPTHS OF ANTARCTICA, A TEAM SETS OUT TO INVESTIGATE A STRANGE SIGNAL, UNKNOWINGLY EMBARKING ON A JOURNEY THAT WILL CHALLENGE EVERYTHING THEY THOUGHT THEY KNEW ABOUT THEIR PAST AND FUTURE.
PART ONE OF THE FROST INTRODUCES A NEVER-SEEN-BEFORE CINEMATIC WORLD CRAFTED ENTIRELY FROM AI-GENERATED IMAGERY.

Learn more - https://www.thefros...

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Even if The Doll isn't the first ever, it's still really exciting that people are even able to make their own movies now! It's absolutely mindblowing what's possible these days 👀

hoary wind
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Hi. I see you joined this server 15 minutes ago and have only posted this video (in general chat, where someone suggested posting it here.)

Do you use Suno and is there anything AI-generated in the link you shared?

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Oh yeah that's Woodhouse, the resident bot, he doesn't like shouting 😅

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We sometimes get people joining just to drop links to their non-Suno music and they never say anything else so I just wanted to check that you hadn't just joined here for that 🙂

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if you have any Suno-related questions etc. feel free to post those in #💬┃general-chat - there's also #🐣┃suno-showcase if you generate a song with Suno that you think sounds awesome and needs to be heard by others

hasty hound
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drive by link droppers are never popular @potent merlin

normal turtle
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@fluid field on your suno profile page these are the songs I would click on first. It has nothing to do with the song itself and everything to do with the imagery.

fluid field
normal turtle
fluid field
normal turtle
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Just saying they are the ones that draw my eye.

fluid field
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nice, those ones were made by suno

normal turtle
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I think it's because they are less busy, than the multicoloured ones that suno normally makes. Any one busy image is fine on its own, but when there are multiple busy images on a page, its the quiter ones that stand out.

fluid field
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true, simpler ones make it easier on the eyes

vale lake
strange gorge
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scent of shoe: made real

vale lake
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you might like this kaker

strange gorge
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I've been known 2 bone

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New Midjourney is p. neato

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oh hey yolkhead did you see that thing about uhh

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hold on what is it called

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Flux

vale lake
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I like

vale lake
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Oh yea

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I read about this already

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It looks promising

strange gorge
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It's got amazing prompt adherence

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but it chokes my system

vale lake
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The only thing is, I noticed the public one has a non-commercial licensing

strange gorge
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30~ seconds a gen

vale lake
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thus far, no model with that license

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has been picked up widely and iterated on

strange gorge
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the schnell is supposed to be fully open

vale lake
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but I could be wrong

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I only read about it last night as my body was shutting down

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(in that the license doesn't allow commercial use)

strange gorge
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I've only just messed with it slightly, comfyui is weird and man I don't like it

vale lake
strange gorge
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Same but it's hardly a "UI"

vale lake
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it's just annoying, and i get too deep into tinkering

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and waste time

strange gorge
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It's a bunch of crap in my face is what it is argh

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freakin' italians!

vale lake
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is it Italian?

strange gorge
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(spaghetti nodes)

vale lake
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oh hahaha

strange gorge
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lmao what the heck is this midjourney

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my new album cover is what it is'

vale lake
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well, I I do test other people's prompts to confirm my lora's adherence

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and it makes furries.

strange gorge
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ahaha the bust

vale lake
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Considering there is literally nothing in the training data

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that would do this

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big success

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Now I gotta work on redoing the negative one with the new parameters

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its um... art

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kk

strange gorge
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man eat an entire butt Woodhouse

vale lake
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you're right woodhouse, but I mean, I'll unplug you

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menacingly hands

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hands his hands handily

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I wouldn't want to have to use my opposable thumbs

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to do something neither of us want Woodhouse

vale lake
strange gorge
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more like WHOLEhouse

vale lake
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technically sfw, but like, man it shouldn't be haha

strange gorge
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Why she got extra lips

vale lake
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hahaha

strange gorge
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I don't like this so-called lady

vale lake
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that's how it f---ed up the tongue

normal turtle
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Midjourney is pretty good, I normally use it for anything public.

vale lake
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presumably

vale lake
normal turtle
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sorry I cut across you guys

strange gorge
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But alas, just a security guard negative

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Forgive me father, last night I did an anime

normal turtle
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make a server then you are the king its great I have my own laboratory

vale lake
normal turtle
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Just me and .. just me.

strange gorge
vale lake
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I like this style personally; also anime is fine imo, I just like variety personally

strange gorge
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Yeah old anime is great

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They just don't make em like they used to shakes fist Akiraishly

vale lake
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Spirited Away unironically is in my top 3, it's literally one of the most clever metaphors I've ever seen, and the animation is glorious

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Miyazaki is dark

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when you really get into his work

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its almost all about Japan's transition out of Shinto Buddhist naturalism and into the industrial era

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and like, that kinda stuff

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also, the bomb

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ANway, have a thing

normal turtle
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Id say thats dry clean only

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Or Wabi Sabi as we say in Nara Prefecture

strange gorge
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me and the misus

vale lake
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NY post apocalypse

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this one it nailed

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I did not prompt the flag in the corner

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Imagine the first Fallout game that uses gen AI for textures or even rendering

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its going to be nuts

vale lake
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more native 1600x1600

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collarbones a lil meh on this one, but its sdxl vanilla, so I'll allow it

strange gorge
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essence of bone

strange gorge
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and much like star wars, the lore is very tiny so this dude has got to be related to Garbage Tony somehow

vale lake
west hull
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I'm getting a bit anoyyed at the Mandela effect

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It's ruined alot of things for me

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1st my movies changed

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And now 2ndly my games change!

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I was playing driver SF

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And for some reason I can't drift+

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I could on the pc edition

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But on the ps3 edition I cant+

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What the heck is going on here!?!

rapid knot
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Hi guys I have a little request

vale lake
vale lake
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and there we go

karmic cove
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wow we making cool ai images

proper remnant
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/chirp

rare gladeBOT
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misty bloom
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hello

grand solar
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you all are awesome!

strange folio
strange folio
orchid birch
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Hey all

fast rivet
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@strange gorge #💬┃general-chat message i see similarities ... (wow the new phone camera is pretty good, you can even see all the trash in my car in the reflection of my sunglasses.. amazing)

fast rivet
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best 4.99 i invested in a long time

surreal zinc
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how long has the roblox game pressure been out?

vale lake
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new lora is almost done baking

vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
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hehehe

strange gorge
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Not exact of course but reminded me

vale lake
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the prompt believe it or not is: (masterpiece), (best quality), (ultra-detailed), low quality, jpeg artifacts, blurry, poorly drawn, ugly, worst quality, art brut, outsider art, a man walking to the store, waving the corpse of a dog around in the air, screaming, paranoia, illustration, disheveled hair, detailed eyes, perfect composition, moist skin, intricate details, earrings, by wlop

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this is what semantic shift excels at. In this case its the negative one

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usually they can be combined or used seperately, it depends on what model and what situation

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keep in mind, this is CFG 10, so the impact is strong

west hull
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Just sent in a general application for Suno :3

winter turtle
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hey suno team, great stuff you're doing, but there's now major articles about the tool being used by racists to try and stir up conflict in the UK

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are there safeguards against things like this?

small verge
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i hav a secret.... im batman!!!!

hoary wind
# winter turtle are there safeguards against things like this?

Lyrics are auto-moderated to some extent (users often complain that their lyrics are being rejected due to moderation) but ultimately if you try hard enough it's possible to get around that and it's the user at fault for choosing to make such a song, not Suno.

Suno may be able to determine who created the songs (there is a hidden watermark but I don't know if it would contain that level of detail) if they are available online. If you find examples of this, might be worth DMing links to a moderator so they can get the team to investigate

small verge
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people try to be normal with ai programs challenge (impossible)

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theres a lot of messed up stuff happening with ai rn tbh

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have you guys heard that people have been making ai chatbots of real life minors

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and they just make more when these minors are begging people to stop

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little shadow demon

hoary wind
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This is a constant distraction

small verge
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cat posting

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everyone post ur cat pls

fluid field
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i dont have a cat SadCatNo

hoary wind
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Find one 😄

rich moat
warm plaza
rich moat
limpid violet
warm thorn
vale lake
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it's called art mom!

warm thorn
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it's called a new phobia

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also, wanted to share that cassette tapes work great for cover art!

digital monolith
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For some reason my another potential candidates for wedding (mosquitos, portable nuclear device, paperclip maximizer machine, the sun, HAL 9000, Rick sanchez, ChatGPT) was less scored...

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When AI will learn to be aligned with my individual values to have a fun observing paperclip maximizer machine in actions? Ah?

vale lake
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MS paint prompting

fluid field
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i just realized how close i am to 50 fans like woah

hasty hound
strange gorge
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@vale lake when you get that lots done be sure to DM me thanks !!!!1

warm thorn
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cover art for my "test" playlist where I try to break suno

edgy plover
vale lake
vale lake
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this is more a prompt thing, you can get this probably on midjourney too, although not as easy

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you can use just 0.5b or -0.5b now. I recommend using high cfg with the negative

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like, over 10

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in general, the positive is better, but a little negative in there never hurt anything, as it can massively increase creativity for various reasons

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the dataset for that one is also availabel

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available

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on there, so you can actually see the why

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yall, I really need to clean up around here

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real footage of from the offices

edgy plover
viscid root
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Cute suno art

cedar aurora
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Thanks guys for the love never expected this much might seem small but I genuinely appreciate anyone who even listens to my songs one time even.

brazen patrol
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@fast rivet

cunning hound
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What is the red dot?

fast rivet
brazen patrol
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Apple

fast rivet
fast rivet
brazen patrol
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Yes, safari

fast rivet
fast rivet
brazen patrol
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But vertical is 🗿

molten pecan
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Hello ★

Guess what - I'm not dead!
Actually I have a lot of stuff I could upload but I wasn't really motivated to do so until now.
This case is a special one though – I'd like to introduce this masterpiece from Zankyou no Terror's OST to you.
Every single song on the soundtrack is simply magnificent, so I highly recommend it to you (Yoko Kan...

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brazen patrol
molten pecan
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this is a cover version I can't find original rn but lol

fallow cliff
molten pecan
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icelandic.

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lotta international copyright red tape around this OST, Japan itself keeps removing the original from youtube I guess. :/ annoying lol.

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I'm glad I have it on CD I had no idea it was this hard to find online these days, damn.

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can't even play it on spotify. :/

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This is why I hate international copyright law, I don't understand the mindset of wanting to limit your listeners. I get wanting to protect artists work, but this isn't protection it's inprisonment. 😦

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most of the OST isn't available but still, von is a highlight of Yoko Kanno's discography and is a beautiful Icelandic song, too bad I can't share it lol.

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all I can do I guess is recommend to watch the anime, it's well worth your time.

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in my opinion anyway.

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not sure if you like anime or not though.

torn tree
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/chirp

rare gladeBOT
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vale lake
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rare alien invasion footage

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well uh oh

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also, I would play the heck out of this game

rotund escarp
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Im running like hell

pallid saddle
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Chirp

strange gorge
fluid field
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Trying to figure out how I’ll use these in my chill style

vale lake
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these are honestly so cool lol

fluid field
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I should figure out where to use these as well

sacred crest
# fluid field I should figure out where to use these as well

I've gotten some interesting cuts from using the following styles, which feel fitting for those pics. If you want some real festival vibes, Shamisen is a good addition too: Dreamy, Layered Harmonies, fusion, traditional instruments, mythical, atmospheric, chill, lo-fi

fluid field
viscid root
viscid root
rare gladeBOT
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viscid root
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when ideogram tries to make a ship <.<

molten pecan
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this is terrifying xD

molten pecan
fluid field
molten pecan
strange gorge
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so @vale lake
Flux is wild

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It does text better than midjourney. The biggest issue with it is that I've grown reliant on these generative AI systems 'filling in' the rest of the image but Flux requires you to prompt for it, otherwise it just doesn't do anything besides what you ask.

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It's prompt adherence is second to none, full stop

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The downside is 30~ seconds per image which is so dang slow

strange gorge
# strange gorge

"first person view inside the cockpit of a space fighter jumping into warp. The screens inside the cockpit cast an eerie amber glow, with one screen reading "ENTERING WARP" while the others show various graphs and diagrams. Below the pilot's hands grip the flight stick and controls as the stars outside start to streak with speed. The canopy above shows the stars."

frosty obsidian
strange gorge
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I blast through text on midjourney by just spamming generations, with the added benefit that I pretty much image prompt with MJ vs text prompting

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because your last point exactly

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mashing images together is discourse

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Flux though, man. It's an absolute leap forward for own-hardware generation

cunning hound
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Checking it out, wow, it does so well on the small details

strange gorge
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and complicated prompts. Like anything though it can mess up

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But it messes up so little

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Someone has already set up an img2img comfyui workflow so I'm about to mess with that. I am thinking that I can combine midjourney outputs with Flux and get some nice things

molten pecan
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I've used MJ for almost two years so I'm kinda biased but I may give flux a try if it's free.

strange gorge
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But yeah it's free in the same way that Stable Diffusion is free

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The novelty of it is huge right now, we'll see if it lasts

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Maybe it has a low ceiling of some kind we'll all find

molten pecan
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oof.

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yeah I need to upgrade my PC.

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I have 3 gigs of vram xD

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I have the money I just need to do it.

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but I may be moving in the fall so I'd rather focus on the new PC after that stress is gone.

frosty obsidian
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I just returned to MJ after a long break and although i photoshop the images after i'm back at being amazed at how cinematic these images can be.

molten pecan
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yeah MJ still has flaws but it's improved so much.

strange gorge
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Yeah MJ is the golden started as far as I'm concerned

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Plus they just popped to 6.1

vale lake
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that's amazing

molten pecan
vale lake
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it's the best for exploring the latent with ease in that "room by room" type method, which makes it really really good for finding good images

molten pecan
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I "gave" kaker the start to the other gen so maybe he'll make something even better lol.

vale lake
vale lake
molten pecan
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he gonna get lotta pings in the morning lol.

vale lake
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I'm on an rtx 4070ti

vale lake
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we both had to sleep eventually

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it was inevitable

molten pecan
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:3

vale lake
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I haven had a new image gen toy in forever

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it does make my sdxl work slightly obsolete, but this is ML

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everything is obsolete as soon as it's done

vale lake
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now what is this tennis thing

molten pecan
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yeah I found acid jazz today from that "obscure genre" youtuber I discovered last week, figured I'd try it out.

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so far suno has known every obscure genre I've seen from the youtuber so it's been a lotta fun xD

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anyway bed time for me. o/ laters.

strange gorge
vale lake
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I'm just on my mobile atm and haven't had my coffee

strange gorge
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yeah I don't have a good workflow at all

vale lake
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that seems way easier

strange gorge
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But so far: :bison_yes_yes_yes:

strange gorge
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"paperback romance novel cover titled "How I Seduced the Robot Cowboy" by the author "robo luvr" featuring an obvious and quite scary skeletal chrome robot wearing a cowboy hat with a pretty, but dumb, woman fawning over them"

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this is nuts

strange gorge
limpid violet
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Flux seems kinda cool, I just got access to the upcoming Imagen 3 and I’m really impressed by it.

Sometimes the text rendering leaves a bit to be desired, but that’s a common enough issue — excited to see how Flux compares 🙂

west hull
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Ive never been in.. off topic. It feels... hmmm

vale lake
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bc I guarantee you it has a massive impact on parameter count due to the level of contextual understanding text requires

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And it just seems so stupid when it is the easiest thing to add in using AI

limpid violet
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Google Trusted Tester Program for the new ImageFX 👀

vale lake
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its truly unfortunate that text got picked up by the communities as seemingly a primary metric, as I think this has gimped models artificially

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on local hardware

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making these for mty next insta

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native 1080x1920

limpid violet
# vale lake its truly unfortunate that text got picked up by the communities as seemingly a ...

Admittedly, I haven't seen many locally-run models that handle text as well as Dalle3 / firefly / photoshop, etc. Imagen 3 is pushing "great versatility, greater prompt understanding, higher quality images, better text rendering" , so it's included at the end.

It does seem to be an arbitrary metric, especially because those in the know realize that there can be MASSIVE improvements in contextual understanding, but getting clear text will always be some sort of challenge.

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However, if that's SUCH a friction or pain point for the general public, it'll be worked on, and while there certainly will be improvements made for "low-hanging fruit", I think we can rest assured that those rising tides will float all boats, including the intermediate-to-advanced products that would benefit

limpid violet
limpid violet
vale lake
vale lake
# limpid violet

1980s anime, classic anime style, drawn by Studio Ghibli, water droplet shape, colored outline, bokeh, colors, swirling colors, a rose, transparent water, silhouette, breathtaking composition, at the height of his craft

above is the prompt

limpid violet
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trying it

vale lake
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it may be that it prefers nat language

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P good for plain old sdxl vanilla

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the lora massively improves water scenes mostly just bc of the great wave painting being targeted

limpid violet
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interestingly "classic anime style" was preventing any output

vale lake
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for whatever reason when combined

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idk though

vale lake
limpid violet
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I took the ghibli thing out first, and the classic anime style by itself was still giving ssues

vale lake
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I like the vibrance

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SDXL still vbeats it on this prticular prompt, but its p close, and it has better adherence

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plus, this is running at 120 steps

limpid violet
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Yeah, I thought the second was closer to what you'd asked for, but the first one just stunned me with the detailing on the petals

vale lake
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also, I'm generating at a high res

vale lake
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you'll notice most things that have preference will get those little droplets or beads

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on everything

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when there is stylistic room to

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we naturally draw positive conclusions bc it makes it seem more complex; same thing it does for moist eyes

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I think the interesting test would be to see if it can do, for example, Mona Lisa clones

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This and the Kiss 2: electric boogaloo

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are like my go tos

limpid violet
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100% -- that's a good point. I still find the level of detail subjectively nice, but you're right that it's simply having a simple pattern for "visual texture"

vale lake
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DALLE does them fine, but that's because it has a preprocessor

vale lake
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But I will say the images Kaker posted above for first attempts are absurdly good

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I think Flux has something special

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they cooked that model really really well for it to be just 12g

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gig of VRAM

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like, the architecture or something must be novel, bc that was extraordinary

limpid violet
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I'm already behind on stuff, stop showing me cool stuff

umbral wadi
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🙋 Me also. I'm constantly dismayed at how far behind I am suddenly technologically.

limpid violet
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Stop sharing interests and being well-reasoned in your conversation and making me re-realize that we're living in the future already -- you're making it difficult to want to do anything "traditionally productive"

limpid violet
vale lake
vale lake
umbral wadi
# limpid violet That was me a couple days ago watching the video for "End of the Road", reading ...

End of the road was Noisee though. It's an online AI video generator. With a paying account you can get image references and use text to prompt what you're looking for. After that it's just a matter of editing.

Web services exist and I do make use of them when I can. But I'd really prefer to do stuff locally as that would hopefully mean better control and some time saved by not waiting in a queue.

limpid violet
# vale lake IO haven't even seen this, what is it?

https://youtu.be/_jHYL6jyAZU

Hepcat posted a video, and for whatever reason the description just was the catalyst for things to "click" that "...this is the future. You don't need to invest a crazy amount in overhead to get started making this kind of stuff."

🌌 "End of the Road" - A Contemplative Lo-Fi Journey 🌌
Embark on a thought-provoking journey with Hepcat Harmonies' "End of the Road," a slow and captivating lo-fi instrumental track featured as the last track on The Hepcat's Lofi Mixtape Volume One. This AI-generated video, created using the innovative Noisee technology, invites viewers to conte...

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strange gorge
# vale lake I think Flux has something special

Same. Like I said, Flux might be limited in some way but it is absurdly good. With img2img it's even better since that "fill in" fixes that issue for me. Generate an image elsewhere, img2img using it for the bones, ez pz

heavy tide
limpid violet
# heavy tide

Knowing how seriously the International Olympic Committee takes themselves, I'm utterly horrified to think what that woman is capable of to be placed in the same weight class.

karmic cove
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tried to make the archer karna. the closest. another wasted day of spending time on ai, to create something thatll never be perfect

limpid violet
strange gorge
limpid violet
vale lake
limpid violet
strange gorge
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There are 2 models, 3 variations afaik

limpid violet
strange gorge
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With a 4090 there is little difference between them so I've been using the full dev one

limpid violet
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Yeah, I gotta get them from somewhere else then.

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I'm rocking a 12gb 4070ti that I got for dirt cheap

strange gorge
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Does this help

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Also I should try non-photo styles with flux. Lots of people stoked about it's anime capability

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Perhaps it's good at other illustration styles

limpid violet
strange gorge
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Nah I just linked Yolkhead that yesterday since I was in it at the moment, lot easier to c/p a single link than looking for a few that I don't remember where they are sarcastic

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ComfyUI is such a departure from what I know that I've gotta get comfortable (heh) with it.

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But img2img works really well, and the little bit of inpainting does as well even though I haven't dialed it in

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For less than 24 hours after it's release though discourse

vale lake
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yee howdy

strange gorge
vale lake
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yay!

limpid violet
vale lake
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I'ma try it out now

strange gorge
limpid violet
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ffs, now I need to explain to @daring echo why I need to buy another new graphics card.

Hey honey, maybe you can use my 4070ti to play Dreamlight Valley in SUPER high res.

strange gorge
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Your raw prompt

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Not toooo bad

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Hey it's his prompt, not mine. Stole it 'cause images are workflows

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It's just flux takes it literally. Here, let me fix it

limpid violet
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wasn't trying to clutch at pearls, I just legit wasn't sure what was considered "too violent", even though it didn't actually show any explicit gore

strange gorge
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Nah you're right

limpid violet
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In your defense, my go-to test for image gen is asking it to make a roadside accident cleanup as depicted by felted woolen puppets, so I'm 100% into the content ftr 😛

strange gorge
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"1976 ektachrome photo of an anthropomorphic cute mushroom dressed as a police officer writing a ticket for a speeding grasshopper"

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lol the hat just stuck on the guy's head

fresh aurora
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I am in lost of words. Of what going on with this youtuber. It crazy after. I make this song all this goes down. But this song was made on suno ai. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buB-GSiERnE Please no hate on it. Thank you Suno AI for making our dreams come true. This song was written by me.

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Dance To The Beat Of Mr Beast · Skippy The Evil Clown

Dance To The Beat Of Mr Beast

℗ Skippy The Evil Clown

Released on: 2024-07-02

Lyricist, Composer: Skippy The Evil Clown

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limpid violet
strange gorge
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No, that's the first shot. Honest

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I think that text accuracy might be a side benefit of how accurate these things adhere to prompts

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These are just images after all

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What does it matter if its text or a mushroom police officer

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Like the guy has 'police' on his coat

vale lake
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yea, but can it do this

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that's right, checkmate flux

strange gorge
vale lake
strange gorge
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Flux doesn't do prompts like these either which is the other struggle

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the classic 'smatter words'

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It wants a kinda clear indication of what you want

vale lake
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what does is make if you just do something vague?

strange gorge
vale lake
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or rather, try this

strange gorge
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I am adapting your prompt you've been messing with

vale lake
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cartoon, stick figures, low quality, poorly drawn, ugly, worst quality, art brut, outsider art, deranged and manic MS paint girl shooting a rifle
at running people, with the Album titled: "shooting men in the f---ing head"

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not anything I'm using

strange gorge
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Yeah I'm going to do my style of it then I'll try yours

vale lake
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just something that popped up

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no idea where

vale lake
strange gorge
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I mean it's your image prompt, sans negative since Flux doesn't do negatives

vale lake
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just downloding

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this u?

strange gorge
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christmas lights and plastic? Naw dawg

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all real bone

vale lake
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true true

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oh I can just use this space

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its waaaaay fast atm

strange gorge
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yeah but what if I want to generate women bending over? ever think of that, smart guy???

vale lake
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you can gen anything, they don't care

strange gorge
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lol

vale lake
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they're all furries

strange gorge
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never change huggingface and also civit

vale lake
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I'm jk actually I have no idea

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but I mean, huggingface is all about opesource

limpid violet
vale lake
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its 4 step distilled model

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hmm, I wonder if that's the base model, since its 12 b params

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that's fast inference if so

strange gorge
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The dev needs 20 steps

vale lake
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actually, I realized that might not be appropriate

strange gorge
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Probably not

vale lake
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haha, I forget america is actually insane

strange gorge
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We do this sort of thing irl, never for pretend ultrafast

vale lake
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Sorry all, will switch to crazy cat ladies

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sorry, I wasn't trying to lol

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I just had partially typed already

strange gorge
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Woodhouse u prick

vale lake
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this is the actualy space

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the other one was the distilled 4 step

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this one is a LOT better

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28 step

strange gorge
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I also noticed that yeah

vale lake
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its WOW

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like, WOW

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I'm blown away

strange gorge
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See

vale lake
strange gorge
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"LP album titled: "Gun Laws and Cat Paws" with a child's poorly done drawing in crayon depicting crazy old woman hurling fries using her hands at a police officer, the police officer is scared and raising their hands to shield themselves"

vale lake
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that's its take

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on the whole thing with the roses

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and I have to admit, I dig it

strange gorge
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now get weirdly detailed with it

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Specifiy how many drops, the style, colors

vale lake
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Yea, I'm going through my crazy prompts

strange gorge
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get hyper hyper specific it seems to really like that

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I'm having a hard time adjusting but I'm getting there

vale lake
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Oh, here Kaker

limpid violet
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... I think Flux wants me to stop using it.

vale lake
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its not exactly right, but it'll do

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you can just copy the stack of restatements

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and it will likely be a sufficient expansion

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I'll make something specific for flux

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later on

strange gorge
vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
limpid violet
strange gorge
# vale lake

I don't get why she is pretending to blow smoke from her mouth

strange gorge
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Clearly it is slightly behind her

vale lake
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it's true

strange gorge
vale lake
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pretty accurate

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Gongriel Ferdinando's masterwork, titled, "laptop playing gonzo" the composition calling into question

vale lake
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that's the whole prompt

strange gorge
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Just in case

vale lake
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also, I made Gongriel up

strange gorge
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Gongriel really lost their way when they went through there "Never a Lamp of Lava" phase

limpid violet
vale lake
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its a lot less edgy

limpid violet
vale lake
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or rather, I'm gonna have to adjust my prompts

strange gorge
vale lake
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by comparison, thsi is sdxl to the same prompt

strange gorge
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Things like "this was the best photo ever and I won a prize"

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a whole new era of cargo culting

limpid violet
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It was weird enough when people would walk up and say that to me in the grocery store, now it's just becoming a concerning trend.

strange gorge
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is it because of ur large automobile

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"very early 3D computer generated image from Bryce 3D that shows a car tire with raised white letters around the edge that read "REAL MEAT". The tire is mounted to a pickup truck in the desert"

limpid violet
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The suit's the same size as it ever was -- the same as it ever was

strange gorge
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'meat' is wrong way around but

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and the lugs aren't exactly correct

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If you are a car person that's your AI tell

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the wheels

limpid violet
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I'm not even a car person, and for that Civil War movie, I noticed they used AI images in their ads when it showed a broken down car that appeared to have 2 front ends

strange gorge
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I remember that yeah, lots of lazy AI work

limpid violet
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and a weird non-door in the middle -- just right off center frame, like... someone got paid to advertise that movie.

strange gorge
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It is so easy to correct

vale lake
vale lake
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I think flux will def overtake SDXL if the community is able to run LoRas on top

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uh.... wat

strange gorge
vale lake
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bruh, is flex grooming me

strange gorge
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wooooodhouse'd

limpid violet
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ffs nevermind

vale lake
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well, my Op Art ones are amazing

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it's so much cleaner

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Like, other models all struggle on this

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bc they get sort of muddy in parts

strange gorge
vale lake
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my eyes don't like this though, it is like... not right

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which is right

strange gorge
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Mine either

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it moves

vale lake
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hmm... I wonder what happens when I combine prompts

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all model struggle on ballet

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I need to figure out where the overtraining is

strange gorge
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It's so direct with how it interprets prompts.
"poorly done crayon drawing of a nuclear reactor with the word "jumbo!" above the reactor"

vale lake
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haahahahaah

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it's still too well done

strange gorge
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"poorly done crayon drawing of a nuclear reactor with the word "jumbo!" scrawled on top"

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It is

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But the second one

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"scrawled on top" and it went "ok"

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But the first one is "above the reactor"

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and it went "ok"

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And yeah they are fantastically done, not poor at all

vale lake
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ok, it does substantially better on this prompt that was all but impossible on any except DALLE

strange gorge
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The 3D tires I was doing earlier, I asked for the words "on the surface" and it gave me this

vale lake
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with "nano-hair"

strange gorge
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It's on the surface alright

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I had to change it to "around the edge"

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and it got what I wanted it to do. You have to be extremely specific

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which is good!

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But takes changing since I would assume lots of things. Flux doesn't assume and tries to follow instructions

vale lake
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Ha! look at that left hand

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ok, so it is overtrained

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ie if they allow LoRas I can improve it

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massively

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a mona lisa kudrow

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but its replicating existing artwork ie

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this is why the above image had the weird hands

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(its got mona lisa in it)

strange gorge
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ask for a named work by your guy that made the skeleton from eariler

vale lake
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"A Mona Lisa Kudrow by Gongriel Ferdinando"

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yuuuuup

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she burned in

strange gorge
vale lake
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I mean, I'm the only one, to my knowledge, that thinks this way abt them. I think there were others, but they borked SD 2.0 when massively decreasing the weight of this kind of data and the model was awful. However, they also censored it horrifically sooooo

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that is a huge component

strange gorge
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"A Marna Losa painting by the artist Gongriel Ferdinando"

vale lake
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I think proper nouns and text ability both inflate parameters by many orders of magnitude

vale lake
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oh gongriel

strange gorge
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so accomplished

vale lake
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try anything with flaming june

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I will get there next actually

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but presumably it will wreeeeck it

strange gorge
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"pointillism work depicting a lava lamp on a table by artist Gongriel Ferdinando"

vale lake
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My guy, Gonriel has it going on

strange gorge
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not full pointillism, the cheat

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the git

vale lake
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I wonder if, with data being cyclical like this, fake artists already exist in the synthetic data

strange gorge
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Probably

vale lake
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Ok, now I'm going in for the moana lisa

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Aw, damn

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she's really burned

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I mean, its good and bad

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this came from

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"half-length portrait painting by Italian Leonardo da Vinci
the lady sits, a clever smile held on her lip, the deceptively simple artwork a true masterpiece
the artist captures her visage perfectly on the canvas: she grins with her twinkling eye, 30 in × 21 in
renaissance, a maiden's knowing face captured by the lines of paint, the only of his portraits whose authenticity has never been seriously questioned
del Giocondo smirking, her right hand resting on her left. The period piece is rendered on a white Lombardy poplar panel
the most famous oil-on-canvas in the world, a destination masterwork, there has been much speculation regarding the model and landscape depicted
Dimension 77 cm × 53 cm
Year c. 1503–1506, perhaps continuing until c. 1517
Location Louvre, Paris"

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This kind of style allows me to get clarity when using something like SDXL

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but here, I'm still getting those burned in fade

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the good news is, if LoRas are relatively cheap to train for it

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I already have the dataset to fix this

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and the model will magically uplift, in my experience, in its generalization, which it already has due to the great text processor

strange gorge
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"a copy of a famous work by one Leonardo da Vinci, you know the one, it has a famous smirking woman in it, by artist Gongriel Ferdinando "

vale lake
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you did it!

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a flaming june mona lisa

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Hmm, flaming June is actually ok

strange gorge
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hey now

vale lake
strange gorge
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"a copy of a famous work by one Leonardo da Vinci, you know the one, it has a famous smirking woman in it dressed up in an 80s aerobic outfit with the word "SWEAT" on the headband, by artist Gongriel Ferdinando"

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Compare the background to the one you just posted

strange gorge
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hell yeah

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Does this technique have a name, where you round-about prompt for something without directly invoking

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I do it a lot with Suno

vale lake
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I called it "diversifying"

strange gorge
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dang mine too!!!

vale lake
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its part of a general anti-overfitting

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philosophy

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Normandy

strange gorge
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Right yeah, something I just 'came to' since how else are you supposed to do it

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I love this though, cracking apart a new thing

strange gorge
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Flux is weird and different than what I am used to but not that different

vale lake
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I'm excited, the new models always just open my brain

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its good for the soul

strange gorge
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samesies

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That ain't no gang sign, try again "Lisa"

molten pecan
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long convo about Flux is long lol.

strange gorge
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It's because it's new, cool and on

molten pecan
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fair lol.

vale lake
molten pecan
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nope, MJ 6.1 lol.

vale lake
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fair

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flux vs

molten pecan
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My PC is too weak to run Flux, I have 3GB of vram bud xD

vale lake
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flux is the clear winner here

molten pecan
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As I told Kaker yesterday I need to upgrade my PC.

vale lake
molten pecan
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But I'm also likely moving "soon" so I'd rather deal with that and focus on a new PC at my new place.

strange gorge
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Yeah you can hug ur face

vale lake
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I'm using it here atm

strange gorge
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I'm running local because I've never regretted going BIG GPU in my life and it keeps paying off

molten pecan
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hmm.

vale lake
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since it will prob run really slow

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and atm my SDXL workflows still win out

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once I can train loras, then its in

molten pecan
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I'm not used to SDXL's UI but I'll give it a try xD

strange gorge
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I'm at about 28~ seconds per generation at full strength, 28 steps. Not bad, really

vale lake
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a little bit better if I lengthen

strange gorge
vale lake
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fr tho, i'm out of fluxbux

strange gorge
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wrong crab

molten pecan
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I mean, from one image, apart from the custom aspect ratio, DALLE-3 follows my prompt better lol.

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lemme see maybe it needs a tweak.

vale lake
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ok, I prompted it in huggingface, but without any text input, and I got this

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so guyz, meet flux

strange gorge
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Dalle always looks like dalle to me and I don't exactly like it

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You can obscure midjourney and SD gens using prompts but Dalle always seems to be dalle in a way

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But that's also probably what people do normally

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kinda like SUno all sounds like suno because people don't try to make it sound like not Suno

molten pecan
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I like Dalle I just wish it was more user friendly. I couldn't figure out how to get custom aspect ratios on it via chatgpt and i just gave up lol.

strange gorge
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@vale lake c00l

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u no what u gotta do

molten pecan
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closer to what I asked for but Flux still wants to make her human, can't do furry art I guess rip. Unless I'm doing it wrong xD

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is a nice quality Kitsune version of her I guess.

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lemme try my villain now.

strange gorge
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Flux has a steep unlearn process for me

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And like I said earlier, doesn't 'fill in' as much. You have to ask

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I'd assume the prompt style would be closest to dalle but I guess not?

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I don't use dalle so that's ignorance on my end

molten pecan
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I mean I know how to prompt a custom version of SDXL so I'm trying to shift to that.

molten pecan
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and the lack of custom aspect ratios, or ease of access of them at least.

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flux still has the too many fingers problem lol. oh well.

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the consistency of flux is good though, at the cost of flexibility.

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I always feel like there needs to be a balance of those two things.

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I don't really see the balance here personally.

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you need a bit of randomness to AI Gen's, otherwise you'll only see what you know how to make and not anything new to spark new ideas.

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it's still very good quality though.

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Just no reason for me to personally use it other than a quick curiousity. 😛

vale lake
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hmm, try again, basically. Is it on civitai?

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I honestly know very little about training on concepts, everything I do has to do with generalization

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there are a ton of guides though

vale lake
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it's def up there, I'd say flux def seemed better though

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but I love dalle

limpid violet
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@strange gorge I was so close to being productive today, you're the devil aren't you

vale lake
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hmm, well, what's the goal?

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also if you're just doing it at home, using Claude scripts, something might just be wrong

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I'd feed your code through successive to several different LLM brains

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to see if there's a basic error

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in parameters

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but I just basically always have the best success on the same setting, bc what I'm doing is super super weird lol

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my dataset is literally just burned in images I make using base sdxl

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but ya, if it's a character or something like that, civitai allows you to use buzz

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to train

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hmm, like Mario type stuff?

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like, n64m

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I'd check your earliest epoch

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like, the first one

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that's a big dataset

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for a relatively simple concept

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so it may be overtrained

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very fast

strange gorge
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Hell yeah Bryce 3D stuff

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Style-wise, anyway

vale lake
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ah, ok so a couple things

  1. batching can cause overfitting

  2. your dataset is so big you're prob getting "there" before finishing your first epoch

  3. I'm not sure you need to, hang on

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yea, I'm seeing that

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Ok, so I think you'll likely want to honestly reduce your batch size

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And see if that helps

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I do 1 exclusively

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but it takes a lot longer

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you can prob do 4

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2, I'd want to know how they are captioned

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bc that will have ab ig impact

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it could be there's an issue: with that many images, its hard

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you may just want to get like 30 images

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and caption them carefully

dark path
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Can you record songs with iPhone voice memos?

vale lake
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and try that first

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bc the concept, it should be able to learn it on a small dataset

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its already "in there"

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so its less teaching, so much as "signal boosting"

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I'd be amazed if there isn't a ton of that in SDXL base's knowledge

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ah, ok, so that's prob why here

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another component

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You can get auto captions

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from a number of places

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you can also just caption them arbitrarily with works of art

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and see what happens

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but realistically, minimally you'll prob want to caption them with a "trigger" word

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and then basically whatever concepts you want shifted. I think using terms like "beauty" or "pleasing composition" and focusing on that

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will work

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bc it will glob onto "good aesthetics" as being this

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and then normal prompts

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will translate

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so yes and no

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if its this big of a dataset, I think it is going to run a good chance of straight lobotomizing your model lol

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But idk, i haven't done training without captions before

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oh wow

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so maybe something was just set up wrong

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that's not right

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yea, if it has 0 impact

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then its something not set up right

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I'm def not the person who could do it, sorry about that, aside from jsut not having nearly enough time

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You'll want to ask on the stable diff discord

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I'm into my own niche in SD, but SD itself is a massive community

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And I know only what I need to to function there

warm thorn
vale lake
strange gorge
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oh hey @vale lake
Guess Flux does quite well at 512x512 also

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If that is of any use to you, not me lmao get the heck outta here

vale lake
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oh yea well can your beloved flex do THIS

strange gorge
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probably

vale lake
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I actually did have trouble getting it to make bad stuff

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but I prob just need to mess around

strange gorge
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Right so did some cool tweaks and I got image gens down to 14~ seconds

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Using the full model heck yes, 24 gb of vram stay winning

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It is, yes

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The 'standard, so 1024x1024 and the aspects that fall into that

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yeah and this is with the dev full fat model

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I meant it when I said earlier I have never regretted going big for GPUs

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I had SLI titans back in the day when I had even less sense than I do now

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That was extremely stupid and dumb and SLI is the same

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well, was, not a thing anymore

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It was for me because the games I played didn't support it pcgaming

strange gorge
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"an early 3D model of a tall, thin mouse wearing flood pants and a stupid looking vest with a unicorn design on it with a speech bubble that says "nice!", as well as brown rubber boots, with their arms open wide almost like they expect a hug"

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Not exactly what i asked for but might as well have been

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The design is not on the vest, and the Unicorn doesn't have a speech bubble

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Not really that tall either

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cool wheel

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One wheel at a time sarcastic

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I bet upscalers would work pretty well with this stuff, yeah.

limpid violet
strange gorge
#

If I didn't have the speed I'd be ultra frustrated trying to work with Flux*

limpid violet
#

Flex or Flux?

strange gorge
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It's the adherence that keeps getting me

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Flux*

limpid violet
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Plex and Flux is going to mess me up.

strange gorge
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Plex is something my good friend in Tokyo runs, what with is 2gb internet connection argh

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his plex, not "PLEX" plex

limpid violet
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I figured -- I have a Plex setup for my less tech-savvy mom -- I call it MattFlix for her

strange gorge
# strange gorge

Just noticed the mouse has a unicorn horn. No! Not what i asked for this is a trash model for trash lords

limpid violet
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Am I allowed to borrow your car this weekend?

strange gorge
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I have my ancient forums I'm a member of, longer than, I'd guess, most users in this discord have been alive

strange gorge
#

:)))

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The biggest one is NVIDIA control panel turning "CUDA - Sysmem Fallback Policy" to "No"

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Otherwise this:

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You need all the vram for these comfy UI tweaks

strange gorge
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"photo of a hand written note on notebook paper sitting on a table, written in blue pen that reads:
"Flex or Flux? What does it matter? If you are here by the time I get back I am calling the po-leezo."
There is a little doodle of a dinosaur chasing stick figures"

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To be clear the tweaks I made are to use the entire fat model and 'best' most memory hungry settings

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Not the low-vram options

daring echo
strange gorge
#

ah yeah you got one of them unified memory macs?

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Those look sick

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The cup and the sign

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"vintage photo of a 1986 Nissan 300ZX as a station wagon parked in front of a convenience store in Venice Beach, California. The store's sign reads "Lil Sippy" and has an anthropomorphic cup flexing its muscles"

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That isn't a station wagon

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The 300ZX isn't at all, which is the point

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But that is a cup flexing

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THAT'S better

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double y's

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You can inpaint with this, so stuff can be 'easily' fixed

limpid violet
strange gorge
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Flux is blowing me away since I've been playing with it, so good

molten pecan
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yeah the text seems to be better than any AI Art I've seen so far.

viscid root
viscid root
dark path
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Will people take me seriously if i wear a facemask?

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Or will they if I don’t wear a facemask

strange gorge
#

@limpid violet
"gorgeous anime of a nuclear reactor in the background with a cute chubby extremely fine-haired creature playing a Fender stratocaster while a child sits on the ground, surprised and in awe. A man stands next to the child with his arms behind his back, grimacing as they are unimpressed. His shirt says "Wish I Were Dead" in pink letters with a picture of a muffin"

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Flux is lol, lmao even

vale lake
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got that one shot after about 1k other shots

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oh wait

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can't share here

strange gorge
vale lake
#

you won't get me this time woody

strange gorge
#

My DMs r open :)))))))))))))

vale lake
#

big woody boy

strange gorge
#

I can post it probably

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I am above all the laws that exist in time and space

vale lake
#

I'll pit it in showcase

strange gorge
#

and probably even above space

vale lake
#

so no gang violence

strange gorge
#

space laws

strange gorge
#

@west hull looking at those two images you posted closer, those are fantastic

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The 'Feline University' is what really sends it home

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It's back there and blurry, out of focus

limpid violet
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@rich moat I thought you posted this

rich moat
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Cricket may have posted it. I suspect that cat of doing many dark things when I'm not looking.

strange gorge
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They've got a degree, how dark could those things be?

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Same. In addition to the other generative image AI we got this is a fantastic addition

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Especially since locally run

hushed breach
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strange gorge
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Used your prompt as a baseline and tweaked it a bit. Works quite well:
An 80s movie poster showing an older sophisticated and stylish Asian Japanese woman wearing shades leaning up against an awesome 80s sports car holding a pistol in a dark, wet alley somewhere in Tokyo. The Japanese license plate says "69NICE". At the top center of the poster, above the title reads "A FILM BY DERBY JONES", the title "STREET VIPER" is made out of a single snake that ends in the head of a snake hissing. Below the title, a captivating tagline reads "She WILL Catch You".
At the bottom center of the poster a block of text contains typical movie credit information:
"Rated R"

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Not quite

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It's kind of a mix of a few, looks like

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I didn't specify

west hull
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hi :3

limpid violet
# west hull hi :3

Hey, welcome to the server!

Caught me just as I was heading to bed, but it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. 😄

Have you made any music with Suno yet? It'll get blocked if you try to directly share the song link here, but if you share the song in #🐣┃suno-showcase, @ me and I'll listen in the morning 🙂

limpid violet
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I'm so excited to really dig into it

strange gorge
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It's good stuff

spark vortex
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^audio upload with post production and fl studio mastering

vale lake
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(my wife runs my insta btw)

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but incidentally, I think the song she chose is by far my personal fav I've made on suno

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but it's v sentimental

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but I made it back in the v3 days

vale lake
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I think it's going to be interesting, because it seems that finetunes won't be happening, at least according to the devs, which implies loras won't really be a thing either

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however, it's really good on it's own

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and this doesn't preclude them from releasing their own "preference lora" improvements

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so basically you could end up with a local model that is highly managed by a company

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which is kind of a cool concept

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@strange gorge is going to be thrilled when he wakes

strange gorge
vale lake
strange gorge
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and yeah that looks sick, and since they delivered with FLux I have no reason to doubt the video thing

strange gorge
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I guess the devs weren't the actual dev devs, but where some other devs

strange gorge
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~devs~

vale lake
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oh yea, simple tuner, I've seen this; it was the only one that supported cascade

vale lake
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makes it prohibitive

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but if we get a few people together

strange gorge
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Considering the waves Flux has caused

vale lake
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I'm down to try out erasing baked in stuff

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and see if it improves the model

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which is already amazing

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it also is likely to unlock um... things

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in my experience

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SDXL is a lot less censored

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after removing overtraining, likely bc it generalizes

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and then removed whatever weird aftermarket dataset they pushed over the top to bork nudity

strange gorge
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Doesn't SDXL have like 2 billion

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vs. flux and their 12

vale lake
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Yea, flux is way bigger

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sdxl i think is 6 billion

strange gorge
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tiny, idiotic

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small

vale lake
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6.6

vale lake
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well, flux I think is also a better architecture

strange gorge
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In using Flux there is this depth to it

vale lake
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I bet you SDXL would be a genius if I could get people to stop training it on text lol, its too much for the thing and a waste of brain

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but people don't listen even when I get results, somehow

cyan cloud
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anyone tried kling ai premier yet? its 50% off so i am lowkey tempted to try it

vale lake
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I mean, its def better trained

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at base

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on top of having more params

strange gorge
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and it's super precise

vale lake
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this imo will also make it have a little more wiggle room when fine tuning

strange gorge
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That Street Viper poster, you can just kinda....tell it where to put things

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anywhere in the prompt

vale lake
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in my experience ie it is less finnicky

strange gorge
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and it just...gets it

vale lake
strange gorge
vale lake
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a joy

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oh, its the new ayers

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the pop one, its on the big playlist

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I put it third honestly

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the sound is good

strange gorge
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listening now

vale lake
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second I mean