🗣️┃chill-chat

[dark path]

I’m in bed with a pocket knife, a baseball bat and a tap for no good reason

[hollow ermine]

This dude has the Sony XMR-2653612 +500mm focal range

[flint sapphire]

hahah typical, always the way 😅

[tame dust]

What drum beat is this? Suno generated this drum beat and I cannot seem to find the sounds of this anywhere!

[cedar wing]

its a house beat. kick is on 1 2 3 4, snare is on 2 and 4, open hat is on the 'and' of 1 2 3 & 4

it also is referred to as a techno beat commonly as the name suggests

heres a tutorial explaining it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EGS1ge_3E

and heres an example of someone using it in a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RZ5XUeUoN4

[tame dust]

Thank you very much for this info. The Kick and Snare sounds very different from these videos though. I am finding a very hard time finding these exact sounds, or is this something I have to create myself in Ableton using these sounds made in these videos?

[cedar wing]

the reason for this is because suno is basically morphing a kick and a snares tonality in a way that doesnt really exist in standard music

its basically combining the kick and snare into a percussion instrument that doesnt exist in reality

[tame dust]

Yes, I see. Thanks for explaining. I think sticking with deep house drum kits will get a similar sound then. Also, I hear the snare drum in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlIm9VP1FLE

[cedar wing]

keep in mind what you are hearing as "the snare" is a layer of a deep kick with a high snare on top giving the illusion of a deep snare

its also worth noting that in techno the clap is very important to the characteristic sound youre hearing

[tame dust]

right, I think I will have to experiment on how to make this sound then, I know they slowed a clap down to give it that sound. Thanks for the help. Also are you from Japan? In 2017, I recreated a Japanese song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqEch9iPNA&pp=ygUaYmVoaW5kIHRoZSBtYXNrIDIwMTcgbmloYWw%3D

[grand solar]

[molten pecan]

gratz. 👍

[grand solar]

thank you!

[small verge]

the yassification of my suno account has happened (i got premium)

[west hull]

Need help, my fathwr is being anoyying I want together revenge, anyone know a good meme or sound I can use ti anoyy him?

[small verge]

metal pipe covers of songs

[west hull]

Share please

[small verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFtFy9aqFOE

or just stuff with metal pipes in it in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UkFq3uOf7M

[west hull]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mAQ5Ogzm__w?si=5SnKeVdQyBDREhK1

I found this

It might help me

[small verge]

the things you have to do for the gen to scream

[karmic cove]

@unreal rapids

@unreal rapids this has no formatting. use the genre as math or smth lmao

[ashen fjord]

Hi, just a reminder of rule 4:

4️⃣ No soliciting or advertising.

[solid trench]

Alrighty. Please check your DMs.

[shut prawn]

Show your LOVE 🐼 🙂

[high stump]

https://youtu.be/iyU1t8G0LZw?si=CtJFFykuJ0p6nLxa

kahzee dropped!!!

[small verge]

it is time 😎

[rough coral]

Do your Suno have a theme?
Mine doesn't right now.

[hollow ermine]

For a possible music video 🤔

Pretty rough animation but yeah

[hollow ermine]

Nice, I Got verified

[small verge]

more of an oc and an album

[subtle summit]

https://youtu.be/Y9X2dYQ5fBA?si=tNZg18UtWSGKCDDU

[karmic vale]

Why am I not allowed to share my suno song on sound XYZ? I have before. I just am not a fan of sharing unminted work since I have been poached and stolen from on all AI platforms

[pearl mirage]

LOL! i call it! Copilot alway get strawberry wrong

[pearl mirage]

wow o.O

[solid trench]

PROMO CARD Designed By Me (original distrokid) for one of my Suno Songs. Tum Kahan Se Ayi
How's it folks!

[slim moss]

you open to feedback?

[solid trench]

Sure! DM me and let's discuss. Btw I'm not a full time designer though.

[slim moss]

ofc it’s all good.

[small verge]

aside from the troll song thats in trending rn the generation is happening... slowly but surely

[hasty hound]

This is an EDM track I just finished

[solid trench]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNDhpMjJkdmMzMDlyaWtwazltN2wxYXFoZGx5bzl6cXQ3c2tlanp6aSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y/giphy.gif

[unborn veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-haircut-yaoyaobidao-nice-cut-i-like-your-cutg-gif-18851759

[viscid root]

tried Kaliber out and got this

[limpid violet]

@strange gorge you're a dweeb and I love you. I can't believe you used to hate me. </humor>

[strange gorge]

lmao I am far, far too lazy to hate

[limpid violet]

😛 I didn't actually think so, I just find it abnormally funny to break things into dichotomies -- like how you only love or hate KFC, and there's no room for ambiguity on the matter

Because chat's a bit slower here, what are your "showcase" tracks for Wheygazer and Beef Diplomat? (...the kinds of things you casually end up saying because of the internet.)

[strange gorge]

You mean which ones I think are the most "wheygazer"?

[lunar silo]

There are the screenshots

Xd

The bot deleted them

[fast rivet]

did you post them too quickly?

yes too quick

wait a bit

[lunar silo]

Okas

[fast rivet]

or just send them to me in a dm

[lunar silo]

AHHHH

Ok

[limpid violet]

Yeah! Like, if there was a song that you felt most represented each of the stage names -- like how I'd say "Bob" might not be NOFX's best song, but I feel like it's a good representation of them.

(btw, just found out that I might be seeing NOFX's final tour next month and I'm having a hard time controlling my breathing)

[warped oar]

@limpid violet so heres the thing hahah, my friend uploaded a music with me being featured in it, and RouteNote automatically created my Spotify 4 Artist’s profile but without any music, just the feature itself.

Now that I’m gonna release my first music i tried claiming my spotify for artist’s profile and it looks like I need some kind of website and what not, but I also read a article that said I can claim automatically my profile once my release goes live as in the imagem below.

I’m scared cause I don’t own a website and I don’t know what do expect ahhaha

[limpid violet]

Ooooh, when I submitted my album through DistroKid, you were able to check a box to say whether or not you already had an existing Spotify for Artists account, and if not, they would do all of the back-end stuff to set it up for you.

[warped oar]

(I received this in the email when my release got approved in Routenote)

[limpid violet]

...hot damn, RouteNote is free?

[warped oar]

Yes! But if you take these things seriously not really cause they keep x% of your income.

[limpid violet]

Oh, I wouldn't worry about not having a website, they literally just want whatever kind of proof you can show that you're the same artist. Admittedly, having a more notable web presence will help speed thngs up, but it looks like they're pretty speedy as it is 👀 Maybe including a forwarded email from your friend who uploaded the original track, confirming that you're the artist on the track?

[warped oar]

I’m still scared cause it isn’t Routenote that asks for the website, it’s Spotify For Artist’s itself.

[strange gorge]

I mean I change my favorite as I get new ones so it changes.
I like how 'Me, For You' you turned out because it's interesting and good musically with a unique sound, always a win. "Lazarus One" is always a favorite because it's probably when I finally 'got' what Wheygazer could be. Plus it got placed in the Showcase so how can I go wrong!

[mild dirge]

Working on a Lyric generator. xD I'm fine tuning my own model to make the lyrics be more natural and not use the typical Ai format. The goal is to create lyrics where you can't tell it's Ai.

[warped oar]

No no he has nothing to do with it… From what I noticed I’m a member of Spotify For Artists since April 26th which is exactly the date my feature with him went out.

[limpid violet]

Same thing, it's just making sure that someone else isn't trying to claim to be you -- I could go on there and claim to be "luiz" -- if they need to spend a bit longer to check out who the REAL luiz is (please stand up, please stand up), but unless there's other people claiming ownership of the track, you shouldn't NEED a webiste.

Worst case, if it makes you feel better about having SOMETHING (even if it's a basic welcome page), DM me and I'll show you how I made my github website for free ❤️

I'll share it later on the tech-chat side of things if it helps ❤️

[strange gorge]

Beef Diplomat is 'Leoric" imho

[limpid violet]

...is that Diablo or WC?

[warped oar]

I do coding for a living but I don’t feel the necessity of making my website to music hahahaha, I have this issue I always thing the worst is gonna happen, but I’ll just wait as it says in the email “[…] when your release goes live…”

[strange gorge]

Diablo

[strange gorge]

It's an instrumental buttt it has hints of Tristram's music

Just a wiff

So why not

[limpid violet]

lmao, Toker shared a song that Suno "glitched" and didn't include the lyrics, but it has the most amazing jazz-funk guitar, and there's a couple moments that just SCREAM Bob Ross -- he made fun of me for watching Joy of Painting, and I don't think he quite appreciated JUST how evocative of Bob Ross those moments really were.

[limpid violet]

I'll check this one out once I remember to get around to it -- or significantly sooner if someone links it 👉 👈

[strange gorge]

Woodhouse might not like this but let's see

https://suno.com/song/22ea53cb-64af-47c0-9b5c-0e8958426e4e
@limpid violet

Yay I am above the law

[keen bane]

Looking For Players for Peril & Plunder: A Thrilling Tactical Trading Card Game

Ahoy, fellow gamers! I am excited to introduce you to Peril & Plunder, an immersive and strategic trading card game set in the high-seas world of pirates, treasure, and adventure.

In Peril & Plunder, players take on the roles of cunning captains leading their crews in a quest to defeat their opponents and claim victory. Building a deck of powerful Crew, Ship, Treasure, and Event cards, players must carefully manage their resources, strategize their attacks, and outmaneuver their foes to reduce their opponent's Life Points to zero.

With a rich and thematic ruleset, Peril & Plunder offers a deep and engaging gameplay experience. Key features include:

Captains with unique abilities that shape your playstyle
A versatile Doubloon system that fuels your card plays and special actions
Tactical combat with attackers, blockers, and damage resolution
Diverse card types, including Crew, Ship, Treasure, Event, and Location cards
Deckbuilding flexibility with class-based deck construction rules
Optional 2v2 team mode for cooperative and dynamic multiplayer

If anyone one wants to play we are playing rn

[brazen rock]

Hi everyone! I'm new with suno... do you know where I can give feedback or some ideas here?

[fluid field]

I managed to get my Sportify Artist account sending a request a few times spread out and after like a month

[limpid violet]

@brazen rock Welcome!

• #1252298754787377225 and #1252292428258480209 are great places to start off to see if your suggestions are one of the more commonly suggested, but beyond that;
• #💡┃suggestions-web for ideas on Suno itself;
• #📱┃suggestions-ios for ideas about the Suno iOS app (android and global rollout coming soon!);
• #🚧┃suggestions-layout for ideas about the layout of the website;

#💬┃general-chat is the most active chat, #🐣┃suno-showcase moves pretty fast, but there's a lot of people sharing songs and creating their own supportive spaces ❤️

[limpid violet]

@warped oar, Sara makes a really good point; you don't necessarily need a super LOUD web presence, sometimes persistence is the key -- Take @rare glade for example, he kept trying to pick the lock on my medicine cabinet, and after a while it was just easier for everyone if I just let him in, at least I don't need to worry about what he's getting up to out there.

[warped oar]

Yeah

These things are weird and complicated haha

[fluid field]

I also made a quick website and that worked I think plus it linked to my YouTube and twitter

[warped oar]

Uhm that's intersting

[fluid field]

I made it to have something a little more “professional” and to prove who I am

[limpid violet]

YT & Twitter are great steps -- even if it's not "an official music account", anything that helps a human look at the stuff you've provided and make a reasonable assumption that you're the person that made the music.

I suppose you could even further push the social-media side of things to prevent needing a website by adding disclaimers to the top of your social pages like "THIS IS THE OFFICIAL MUSIC PAGE FOR SARA HOSHINO" until you get approved -- even just setting your name to that temporarily could cause a splash 🙂

[flint sapphire]

did you get this sorted? i've never had spotify for artists ask for anything more than my email address and the spotify artist URI that you are wanting access to which you then verify via email. 🤔

[warped oar]

No

[flint sapphire]

is that after you went through https://artists.spotify.com/en/claim or are you trying to go directly via routenote or a distributor?

[warped oar]

routenote redirects me there

@flint sapphire

[limpid violet]

Can you put your most "official" social link?

[flint sapphire]

that's bcos it seems to be selecting that you're a team member rather than the artist themself

in the url

[warped oar]

I get redirected here when I click here

[warped oar]

I don't have any ahahhaa

[flint sapphire]

yeah i'd never go through the distributor

go directly to the spotify for artists page and select that you're the Artist and SfA will deal with you directly

[limpid violet]

I don't have any teams set up, and had everything set up by distrokid

[fluid field]

I did it myself and got my profile but SoundCloud does my distribution

[limpid violet]

Yo dude 🤘 ❤️

[fluid field]

Though it took a few submissions and like a month to finally get my profile

[flint sapphire]

hold on i'm just gonna try signing up myself a sec let me see if i can figure this out (i love troubleshooting)

its been a few years since i did this tbf

[warped oar]

Thank you so much cause I am way to scared to not having my profile picture when my release pre sales hahaha

[limpid violet]

I mean yeah, 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep feels nice, but this?! Oh yeah, that's the good stuff.

[fluid field]

For sure

[limpid violet]

So cool! 😄

[warped oar]

I just want my profile :(

[fluid field]

I wanted to use my pfp as an album art but I had to change it for it to release

[limpid violet]

Soon enough, dude 🙂 We'll have a listen-party to celebrate when your profile goes live!

[warped oar]

Hahaha, wish so :/

[flint sapphire]

waiiiit do you get this show up at all? @warped oar

[warped oar]

No

[flint sapphire]

ok good just checkin , im still experimentilating

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/stealing-gif-18289536

[fluid field]

Just checked, and it keeps going up every time I look at my Suno profile

[limpid violet]

"experimentilating" is such a great way to convey that you're just dicking around and seeing what happens -- not quite full experimenting, but just enough to titillate your interests.

[flint sapphire]

okay hmm it does seem to ask for social media for some artist profiles i select, but not others so im not sure what factors actually ... cause it to ask for more info (some of the artists i was trying had like no listeners so it wasnt that)

even if you have any non-music based socials @warped oar i'd maybe recommending adding at least just one of those and they can match it to your name that you provided. that wont be published publicly (and you get full control over what does get published once you get access)

[limpid violet]

"I've been experimentilating with putting different amounts of chocolate chips in my cookies recently."

"so you've just been making butter cookies and you're eating the chocolate chips"

" "

[flint sapphire]

this is exactly right ahhha

[warped oar]

I just don't get why this happening especifically to me... My friend used RouteNote and he got his profile normally... Didn't had to make any social medias

[warped oar]

The only social media I have is my X... But I don't see an option to link it.

[fluid field]

Whoops

Wrong channel

[warped oar]

@flint sapphire is there a way to link it to my twitter?

[flint sapphire]

ooooh okay it looks like depending on the distributor you can get instant verified

so maybe your friend used something other than routenote?

but routenote isnt supported which is why it asks

im not too sure how linking works if it asks for a specific platform

can you screenshot what you screen looks like when it asks for socials?

[fluid field]

I distribute through SoundCloud, but I did the process through the Spotify artist page

[warped oar]

It is, at least it says so in the email I got when my release got accepted. But it also says when my release goes live

I'm just really anxious

[flint sapphire]

hmmm okay that is odd then , im probably gonna be a useless from here, sorry to get your hopes up (but i like experimentin.... experimentilating)

[warped oar]

All good! I'm happy to know u tried <3

[flint sapphire]

if it just says Link to the artist's website, can you not just input the twitter in there or does it ask for more?

[warped oar]

I'll try that if I don't get insta access when it goes live

I'm honestly just over thinking

(At least I hope so)

[fluid field]

just had this made and gonna find a use for this for a song

[fluid field]

should I figure out something for this one?

[mint arch]

@umbral lance https://youtu.be/x2lAoXsJ-tE?si=jQ3czFucpS3BOOPv&t=64

[fluid field]

hmmm another good image to use for something

[limpid violet]

@grim idol didn’t realize the channel I posted in a first — all’s good after the storm?

👍 I’ve been sporadically around, so I didn’t see whenabouts you surfaced, but I hope that having electricity again feels like a nice, staticky warm hug. 💙

[grim idol]

I've had power for a bunch of days now, but was still underwater with work (and good sleep, no AC...). Still not out the woods yet, but it's the weekend, taking a breather hah

[fading bay]

Salut son de frenchcore un like ça met tj ienb tyy https://soundcloud.com/kyuzenne/me-vs-me-cant-decakill-penta-in-low-are-lazy

[solid trench]

Spotify Profile 🎧
https://spoti.fi/3SfdfxF

[limpid violet]

(just seeing the off-topic channel now)

Heck! I'm sending all of the cold Canadian weather your way that I can ❤️

Glad you're part of civilization again 😛

[onyx moat]

You should share some Asimov stories turned into Jazz songs 🤣

[limpid violet]

I was waiting until December to start making my Steinbeck playlist, "The Winter of our Disco-Trance", but maybe it will help send some cold thoughts his way 💙

Stay frosty, @grim idol!

[wraith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-vladimir-putin-schmunzel-lach-lächel-gif-11862021

@fast rivet

Same face same dude time traveling

[trim quest]

https://tonguetwister.bandcamp.com/album/dysfunctional-machines

My first all-suno concept album

[warm thorn]

Hi guys, I'm new here. Again 🙃

[viscid root]

D

Noticed that the guy in the background got a face of pure horror

[frosty obsidian]

run the image through an enhancer like krea or leonardo

[warm thorn]

You know when you shower,
And you only find out when you're done,
That all the towels are still in the washer?

[fluid field]

Been cooking up a style like this

[ashen fjord]

Oh no, her finger 😦

It's like a mini dragon or two

[fluid field]

Yeah, I need to fix those, but I love the style

[ashen fjord]

Yeah, it is beautiful

The yellow stars reminds me of Mario Galaxy lol

[fluid field]

This one a bit better

[ashen fjord]

Oh, so much better

[fluid field]

All from NAI

[frosty obsidian]

the hands are for sure better ^^

[fluid field]

I’ve been cooking on this style and other stuff recently

[frosty obsidian]

are you using a local model or a site? don't think its midjourney - you aren't on the discord ^^

[fluid field]

I use NovelAI with the vibe feature using images I did from SD, and NAI

[frosty obsidian]

never heard of it - but from what i saw you must have a second use case for that AI.

[fluid field]

What do you mean by that? I like using it

[frosty obsidian]

i mean it seems like its a storyteller AI first with the added features - that making images isn't its primary function. So you must use it for other stuff than just images - all i mean.

[fluid field]

I only use it for images, I haven’t touched the storyteller part of it

[frosty obsidian]

oh - interesting.

[fluid abyss]

@drifting whale Is this what you're trying to change?

[drifting whale]

yep

[fluid abyss]

and when you change the time in that box, it resets instead?

[drifting whale]

yep

[drifting whale]

late reply sorry

[fluid abyss]

That's fine.
I would use Ctrl+F5 on the page first, and then check if it is still happening.

Other than that, I don't really know why that is happening.
I think it has to be a minimum of ten seconds, that's the only thing I can think of

[drifting whale]

i use chome os

[drifting whale]

what key on chromebook

[fluid abyss]

Uhhh I have no idea.

It's just the deeper version of the refresh command

I don't think I can help beyond that. Sorry...

[drifting whale]

oh

[blissful canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-hello-hi-ola-aloha-gif-15465565

[frank knot]

Was just feelin' the vibe of my profile page and wanted to post it xD I'm proud of how it looks

[frosty obsidian]

reminds me of the 90s

[frank knot]

I'm a 90's child so I guess that's a vibe eh

[south perch]

damn CAPS

[frank knot]

LOL

[south perch]

sorry I just said daaaaaammmnnn I love it!!!!

[frank knot]

Thanks homie :3

[south perch]

But in full caps

Because it deserves more excitement

[frosty obsidian]

my teens were in the 90s so i get you 😄

[mossy tide]

As said in #💬┃general-chat the thumbnails are interesting. When I make serious songs (i.e not satire) my thumbnails vary but I like this one. The song is in Bulgarian:

[frank knot]

Ohhhh very calming and nice ❤️

[thin cloud]

suno sure makes some horrible lyrics sometimes. like wth is this...

[daring wedge]

holy **** that's wildly bad

[thin cloud]

I KNOW!!!!!!!

[rich moat]

Definitely not great, but they're just begging for some wonky styles.

[thin cloud]

that song u made was amazing

[rich moat]

Feel free to extend it to get it back into your library

[thin cloud]

k

[rich moat]

'twas your lyrics, after all!

[thin cloud]

lol

[rich moat]

[thin cloud]

@rich moatso did u put the first part before the lyrics or in style?

[rich moat]

I just used "Reuse Prompt" and then added the nonsense styles as well as a couple of silly tags to the lyrics.

[thin cloud]

so u put [Deathly Cigar-Smoking-Grandma Vocals]
[Metal Harmonica Interlude] in style?

@rich moat

[rich moat]

Those were in the Lyrics 😄

[thin cloud]

ohh

so what did u put for style?

[rich moat]

It was all silliness: Hillbilly Death-Operetta, Glitch HorrorCore, Dark Evil RoboVocaloidholio, Enraged Goats on Welfare, Tap Dancing Bears

[thin cloud]

ok thx

[west hull]

🌈✨🐑 Hey everyone! 🐑✨🌈

I’m excited to announce the first iteration of Electric Sheep Radio - Synthwave Electronica Vol. 1! 🎶📻

Featuring a hand picked mix of the best AI-generated tracks, this episode dives into an eclectic blend of Synthwave and Electronica 🌟🎧

Check it out here:
https://youtu.be/uil6WFP3L9Q 📺✨

[thin cloud]

nice

[quick token]

Anyone got a monetized channel on youtube?

[hasty hound]

yes

[quick token]

with AI stuff?

[hasty hound]

yes

[quick token]

sent you a private message if thats ok

[thin cloud]

depends. why are u wanting to know?

[quick token]

just wanted to know how strict they are with ai tag but I got my answer already 🙂

[thin cloud]

well i mean people post ai vids all the time so..

[quick token]

would just suck if I got declined cause I forgot to tag it as AI...

but dunno how stict they are

but gonna tag them all to be sure

(theres ALOT of them 😦 )

[wraith palm]

https://youtu.be/TnwU2iMRUqA?si=HaHJiOfN3iNLtRB0

[merry forum]

hi all

[small verge]

made an unlisted video of the speedpaint to my song!
https://youtu.be/9fXx-PUs3d0

[merry forum]

nice

[charred warren]

just going to unload this link to my current hits here so i can walk away from the computer without thinking "OMG where can I put all these hits?" you know how it goes: #🐣┃suno-showcase message

[vale lake]

its not mine, but yes, I clicked the wrong channel

Meant to put it in showcase

90% of the time I post here its to share stuff I've found at this point as the production of the community has ramped up

[maiden hornet]

@hasty hound asking 🙂 any rock examples for soundful? And what exactly does it generate? MIDI?

[hasty hound]

yes it does rock and it generates a mixed and mastered MP3, WAV File, Ableton ALS file or MIDI

and real STEMs

[hasty hound]

here's a quick Pop Rock example I just did

[maiden hornet]

yeah, it sounds like (good) MIDI, hence the ability to generate real stems, I guess.

no lyrics, I assume?

thanks for taking your time to generate and share!

[hasty hound]

no lyrics, its instrumental based, although I am working with the Kaskade collab now and there are background oohs and ahhs

[flint sapphire]

Soundful really gives me AIVA but on steroids vibes (in a good way)

[hasty hound]

Aiva can't do this

Full disclosure for @limpid violet I am a mod on the Aiva Discord

[rich moat]

It does sounds like MIDI. I kept expecting a voice to cut in saying "Thank you for calling AT&T. May I please have the name and phone number associated with your account?"

[flint sapphire]

do we know how soundful generates what it generates? i know AIVA has a bank of pre-written midi chords + melodies it just picks from based on the style you select. is soundful similar or it writes from scratch?

their sound quality is very impressive, but i dont think i can be blown off my feet until something like suno comes around actually giving the full stems (trackouts) + midi

[hasty hound]

Aiva doesn't have pre-written midi at all, it's entirely generative

I have been a Pro plan user of Aiva for 5 years, I use it for classical production

I am on the Business Plan of Soundful and the Premier Plan of Suno

I've been using Suno since last year and Soundful for a week

[flint sapphire]

interesting...

[hasty hound]

Aiva writes musical scores much like a composer would then assembles the score into a playable track using Virtual Instruments like the Berlin series of libraries for strings for example

[west blade]

Something is Launching in 2 hours....

[west blade]

i have not used AVIA since the alpha came out lol

almost forgot about it

[hasty hound]

it's widely used by professional soundtrack writers

[west blade]

really?

[hasty hound]

yes

[west blade]

It was dogshit when it came out

but it has been years

[hasty hound]

I have been using Aiva for 5 years

[west blade]

I'll believe you

I literally used it as it was 1st launched

and was really dissapointed

and then moved on with my life lol

Maybe i'll go back and give it another chance....

[flint sapphire]

i mean its improved from what i've tried in the past year or so but i dont find its results very good, its very rare it creates a quality or cohesive full track
its cool that it can create it in a way that lets you customise the details and instruments etc but different use case to suno for example; just not a fan of it

idk how long ive had a aiva account before but im sure that all the generations in my library are only about 5% at most of what ive done with it ever. the rest were trashed.

[west blade]

yeah listening to it now

my old ones

there all like meh

making a new one to compare

but they left my accoutn intact

so thats cool

it sounds very different for same inputs haha

ok they worked hard...

[high stump]

is it good?

[west blade]

if you write and compose music

and export to midi

I think it woul dbe

otherwise - meh

not sure what id use it for

[hasty hound]

Aiva is good for generating scores to be played by real instruments in an orchestra which has been my use case

[flint sapphire]

^ ok thats a good point i agree with! i was much more impressed with its cinematic styles or piano solos, orchestral compositions etc than say the rock or EDM type stuff

i can see how that would be very useful in transferring for real life scenarios

[grim idol]

I think there's a lot of potential for more symbolic AI music models. People jumped straight into generating audio with the big new gigantic AI architectures. But you could apply that same brainpower to notes/midi/symbolic music and probably get good results too, even if the 'sound' would not have the diverse range of sounds like in Suno. I know plenty of companies generated music this way with earlier AI work, because it used to be the only way you could do it. But I don't know if somebody is using some super mega fancy new models.

[hasty hound]

as I said I pay the Pro Annual plan for Aiva, the Business Tier 1 Annual Plan for Soundful and the Premier Plan for Suno

that's a lot of money in $AUD

but I make it back many times over because I release lots of music especially to libraries

[flint sapphire]

somewhat taking this into a different realm but ive always thought a really extremely good use case for generative AI music (like an expansion (or .... more compact version?) of what suno does now) would be generating single-instrument loops for producers, songwriters etc for using in their own actual productions. i definitely think could be a very big, helpful and competitive use for generative AI audio in the future. like someone needs a 15 second acoustic guitar pattern in <BPM> and <key> and they can feed it the context of the styles or even their song so far.
could eventually package up something like that into its own VST plugin.

i think soundful does somewhat do the loop generation to a degree but not to the same expansiveness that suno does with full songs currently.

[flint sapphire]

if you know anyone who works at Epidemic Sound, please hit me up 😭

[hasty hound]

I do

[flint sapphire]

i would actually kill to work with them ... on more pop / electronic styled stuff but thats the dream anyway 😩

[hasty hound]

very tough to nail down deals with them

[flint sapphire]

i've heard they're very competitive yeah

[hasty hound]

I have releases with them

[flint sapphire]

i enjoy just listening to a lot of their artists i can't lie, i have a bunch of their music just saved in my library and playlists

[hasty hound]

haven't worked with them for two years now though, it's not them it's me, I am doing my own library work

[flint sapphire]

makes sense! i'll maybe scrape together a press kit and demo reel to send them at some point bcos a guy's gotta dream 🤧

[hasty hound]

see if you can do a deal with Pretzel, a bit easier to get the foot in the door

[grim idol]

BPM is likely something Suno could control precisely with some work. Pretty straightforward for a computer to look at a song, check the BPM, and know whether it matches the prompt. There could be some downside though, maybe making the AI care so much about very precise BPM also makes the AI boring. Though that result would be interesting to know.

[hoary wind]

Audio upload can help set BPM. It's not as convenient as prompting but a workaround at least.

[fast rivet]

these look cool. wich ai did you use for these?

[viscid root]

ideogram

[fast rivet]

i should try ideogram, i always use dall-e in copilot and i think i need some variation. they look really good.

[viscid root]

you get 25 free tries per day in ideogram

[fast rivet]

per day? wow thats a lot.

[viscid root]

yep its a bit like sunos credit refil thing

[hasty hound]

Just generated this from the Kaskade colab on Soundful

[viscid root]

another example whit the right promps u can get a fancy oil painting

[hasty hound]

how much is ideogram? is it a web site or a discord or both?

[viscid root]

what i have seen is that ideogram got their own discord channel to share image creations and ideas and the website to make the art on

[hasty hound]

oh, it's free?

[limpid violet]

That adds a whole new level of context!

A lot of users that I’ve spoken to use the audio largely as is, maybe touching up stems externally, or overlaying tracks, but it makes sense that having an explicit MIDI output isn’t just a preference, but it basically dictates your entire workflow after the fact.

Apologies if I’d come across like I was shining an interrogation lamp in your face 😅 I could tell those platforms meant a lot to you, but I wasn’t able to fully understand the use case.

Genuinely curious! Do you have any stories about seeing your music “come to life” like that? I like how Suno can “recreate” the songs I make up when I’m bored, but I’d be fascinated to hear someone’s story about using similar tools to make music and then have other humans play it.

20/20 in hindsight, but the idea is giving me goosebumps, dude.

[hasty hound]

no worries 🙂 Having the MIDI allows you to create notation for a score. Do you have Spotify?

[limpid violet]

Apple Music, but I have a free Spotify account

[hasty hound]

on Spotify look up the artist Mind Selector and the release One Universe for an example of orchestral scores using Aiva

oh actually hang on there may be a Youtube clip from memory

[flint sapphire]

this makes me want to get into actually learning oil painting irl 😅

[hasty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MIlYIBXrhE

Youtube sucks how much it compresses the audio, the lossless WAV masters are much nicer

[viscid root]

yes its free but you can upgrade for more tries but so far i have not needed to do that due to the free refil each day

[hasty hound]

I'll have a play with it, thanks 🙂

[limpid violet]

Was this audio generated from Aiva or live musicians playing aiva-transcribed sheet music?

[hasty hound]

in between, it was built from Aiva MIDI in Logic Pro and performed using Orchestral Tools virtual instruments. The Orchestral Tools libraries used in that cost around $17k AUD all up

however the One Universe score has been performed live in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane and cut short because Covid hit

[limpid violet]

Oh, I apologize for the confusion, #🗣️┃chill-chat message I misinterpreted that post, but Orchestral Tools sounds really interesting, that's some hefty software!

[hasty hound]

Berlin Strings by Orchestral Tools is as close as you can get to real strings in the digital world

but they're not cheap

https://www.orchestraltools.com/store/home <-- you could spend a bit of money here quite easily if you like virtual instruments

[flint sapphire]

.... im good with my Spitfire libraries for now 😆

[hasty hound]

they have some good libraries

[hasty hound]

when I was younger I used to work on those

Installing radio communication equipment

[viscid root]

one work that i would do if i was not scared of heights would be changing a light bulb that lands you 600k a year

[hasty hound]

when I worked for ESSO Petrolium (this is the late 1980s) I made $102k per year which was an insanely huge amount of money. Two catches, you had to be able to handle the helicopter trips out to them and landing on a windy day was fun and the other one was you had to scale towers to repair antenna systems

[hasty hound]

This is my latest non Suno composition

[dark path]

had a good day at my friend's shed, now i'm home feeling like shit and kinda upset idk why lol

[hasty hound]

if you need to chat feel free to DM me

[dark path]

alright

[warm thorn]

Good luck with that prompt...

[hollow ermine]

I didn't make these songs

random peoples songs are showing up on my create page now and I have no idea how to fix it

[warm thorn]

Oh. Wtf.
You're not the first person i've seen mention this

[hollow ermine]

It seems to happen randomly and fix itself when I reload the page

[hollow ermine]

Good to hear that other people are having the same issue

[warm thorn]

Maybe mention it the Bug Browser channel https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1082775596767117312

[hollow ermine]

Ill do that

[molten pecan]

a couple are strange but overall, pretty cool... collage? by Suno lol.

[limpid violet]

[warm thorn]

anyone else crack their neck,
and you push a little too far,
And when it does crack, you think for a brief moment
"This is how I die"

[limpid violet]

Ooof, discord prefers when you keep replies within recent memory. Definitely a different experience on busier days.

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-women-gif-21357770

[solid trench]

WAVES OF HERITAGE Music Video. Like & Sub, support a fellow Sunoer!
https://youtu.be/kR5i9XP9j70

Instant relaxation. Such a sweet voice! Listen to this frequently. Ref gen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTSL0Rv0am4

[molten pecan]

lmao @strange gorge @vale lake

song it's attached to, the prompt didn't work but oh well.

[solar lodge]

why tf did Suno generate sonic in a song that I made cause of boredom 😭

[molten pecan]

uhm, lol

[solar lodge]

Ominous glowing tennis racket

[cyan cloud]

we back bois time to make tennis songs

[rich moat]

Multi-purpose! It's a Tennis Racket and a Bug Zapper!

[hoary wind]

...Isn't this already a thing? I have two of these for zapping flying bugs.

[rich moat]

But can you actually play tennis with them? 😄

[hoary wind]

I have not tried.

[vale lake]

it begins

the tennis era is here

thanks @molten pecan

I feel alive

the Tennis has taken hold

[molten pecan]

oh no lol.

glad you're enjoying... whatever it is xD

[fallow cliff]

what the heck

that's weird

[vale lake]

yea, that's been like that for a whiiiile

this is an old video

I have no idea what the cause is, but its late so I'm less inhibited

[vale lake]

also, you top my newly organized best songs of Suno, btw

It'll be a while before anyone tops yours

imo

[fallow cliff]

an honor, thank you 🙏

[vale lake]

summer of suno: when Tigon brought the tennis

[umbral wadi]

Shakka: when the racket missed

[hoary wind]

I think my tennis player may have an advantage. Or a disadvantage. I'm not sure which yet. @fast rivet

[hasty hound]

Does this mean I wont be billed for the switch to yearly until August?

[fast rivet]

the summer of tennis

[sweet burrow]

yeah, unless you do pro-rated, it doesnt change over until your month renews

[hasty hound]

ok so I don't need to worry that my card wasn't billed today?

[sweet burrow]

i dont think so, but im just a user so shrugs

[hasty hound]

I wish they made it clearer

[sweet burrow]

the clearer you try to make an option like that, the more confusing it gets 🙂

[hasty hound]

as I understand that image I will switch to yearly on 5th August and charged $288 then

because my card wasn't billed today when I switched to annual

[sweet burrow]

yeah, when your month refreshes, you will be upgraded, receive credits, and charged, afaik

[hasty hound]

ok, thanks

[sweet burrow]

its all attached to your renewal date, so charging you out-of-sequence would change you renewal date too

[random fjord]

@fast rivet

this is the song

No wait

wrong file

this one

how do i make prompt for this song

[fast rivet]

i would try something like traditional african, guitar, ukulele, acoustic ...

things in this direction

[vale lake]

it is learning XD

[thin cloud]

@pearl mirage copilot

suno

very similar

[pearl mirage]

you want good lol. ask copilot how many r in strawberry

[thin cloud]

um ok

wtf

lololol 2 r's in strawberry @pearl mirage

[pearl mirage]

lol 😛

[thin cloud]

thats crazy

[pearl mirage]

far i know. it just that word

[ionic iris]

Dont know where I can create a Song

[pearl mirage]

web site

[thin cloud]

u mean on here?

[hasty hound]

/help

[rare glade]

How to use Suno

Hi there!
If you’re ready to dive into creating music, head over to Suno.com.

For more detailed information, check out docs-guides-resources.

If you have any more questions, just ask in #general-suno where you can always find our community, moderators and guides to help you with most questions. 😊

[molten pecan]

lol when I combine post grunge with tennis I get like the happiest guitar riffs ever xD

[west blade]

@sleek urchin have your mace then....

[sleek urchin]

haha, you didnt have to, but it looks absolutely awesome!

[molten pecan]

that's not tennis.

[final oyster]

Since this doesn’t sample existing works for reference isn’t it safe to say that sunos works are original body’s of music?

[west hull]

Hoi hoi

[sleek urchin]

@fast rivet im not sure why he's eating it...

[fast rivet]

thats actually not that bad

[sleek urchin]

but thats not even Carl anymore, thats just a beaver eating a doo...

carl looks like this:

[hoary wind]

It doo be tasty

[neon talon]

@fluid field

[fluid field]

i know that, but the was a suno song i made

[neon talon]

Yeah but unfortunately the AI doesn't know that

[fluid field]

this is now my 2nd song that got hit with that

[strange gorge]

Any vocals at all, a fake voice is a real voice is a voice

[fluid field]

i know that, was just saying it got hit

[pearl mirage]

did you all add this after my topic 😛

useful, very useful 😛

[peak knot]

chat

is swearing allowed

[strange gorge]

Woodhouse will let you know

[peak knot]

not epic

[peak knot]

damn

[half helm]

https://vxtwitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1818169654210146604

[west blade]

damnit

[full plinth]

https://suno.com/radio/song/7ac242da-4117-400a-b9bf-040ae2f4723f

[vale lake]

well suno image gen

made this before passing out lol

[warm thorn]

Hell's Motel

"Tapeworm"??

[blazing kestrel]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[torn stirrup]

Old times..

[grim idol]

A little too off-topic even for off-topic here, so I'll delete this for now.

[pearl mirage]

o.O 2 play but only 1 play -.- how?

[high stump]

the greenscreen kinda ate the hair as well so its transparent

ill change the colour later

😭

[pearl mirage]

tips with green screen. void green color or use really good AI

this is true about blue screen too. void color blue

[high stump]

im using the one in obs

the built in chroma key thing

im just gonna change the hair colour lol

[pearl mirage]

🙂 can be worse

[fluid field]

Not in obs, but here’s me

[high stump]

oh

for me im using the reality app

[fluid field]

I use vtube studio

[high stump]

im too broke to use a model so im just using this LOL

[fluid field]

Fair enough

I started very briefly with vroid when I started before going L2d

[high stump]

meh, i'd still want a 2d model though

3d models are kinda ugly

had to learn to pull out the developer options from the phone

[hasty hound]

does anyone here use Twitter/X?

[fluid field]

True, but someday I do want a very high quality rig

[fluid field]

I do, but not too frequently

[high stump]

costly stuff

[fluid field]

True, but with enough time, it is possible

[hasty hound]

thanks for replying, do you also use Threads?

[fluid field]

Nope, I’m only on discord, YouTube, twitter, and twitch

[hasty hound]

thanks, yeah I am on those too

[high stump]

i use insta and the rest you just listed out

i got on twitter for drama

[fluid field]

Tbh, I don’t interact with many twitter communities because of all the dramas

[high stump]

exactly, i just go there and witness it to feel better about my current life

[hasty hound]

do you reckon X Premium is worth it?

[high stump]

uhh

not really...

if you're there often then its upto you if you want to

but its probably a no from me

[hasty hound]

I like Threads but more people use Twitter. Suno has an abandoned Threads account last posted in 2023

[grim idol]

I decided to start using again Twitter last month after posting infrequently for a couple years. I started to post videos or audio samples, and cutting the length down to 2:00 drove me nuts. Also used to be a heavy Twitter poster in the past. If you don't plan posting a ton yourself I can't see any reason go Premium. You still even get ads unless you upgrade to Super-Premium (which they remind you of constantly) so if ads are the thing you want to avoid it costs even more.

As a user the "For You" page is much worse than the past. Full of engagement bait. If you spend time clicking "not interested" and liking only really good tweets will improve, but it is still not great. The "Followers" tab still works, but because the content in that tab is purely chronological it isn't usable if you Follow a lot of people. I cut my list from 5000 to half and it's still too big.

The way old Twitter worked the 'For You' page a nice middle ground between algorithmic stuff from people you don't follow and your Followers, and the order was flexible. It was a good mix.

Probably if I keep carefully liking and "not interesting" tweets the main feed will keep getting less terrible. But it feels like I'm fighting it right now.

[hasty hound]

the main attraction of Premium to me is longer videos to be honest

but I worry the engagement isn't there anymore

[grim idol]

BTW Twitter "Basic" has longer videos for 3$. I couldn't find an official page that said how long, but other sites say it is same as Premium. Probably they emphasize Premium on all official pages to upsell people.

[hasty hound]

yes you are right but it doesn't cut down on ads, of which would be good to cut down on for me

[grim idol]

I don't mind subscribing to things I use to remove ads. But half as many ads on Premium is still a lot - a little obnoxious for a name like Premium.

[hasty hound]

that sounds annoying 😦

[limpid violet]

It's like when Prime Video started showing ads everywhere, I asked how I could turn them off at first because they were introduced "cutely", and I said that I didn't want unrelated content advertised to me when I was trying to watch prime video -- hoo boy. I sorta gave up that fight after a while.

[nocturne ridge]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[winged stream]

what promt for get this type of art

[molten pecan]

secret. 😛

it's one of my more complex ones.

[molten pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GRBnsCqMB5o?feature=share 👀

this guys channel is gonna be fuel for so many obscure Suno songs lol.

[hoary wind]

Suno generated some kind of brain tree
@fast rivet this you?

[fast rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/cauliflower-vegetable-veggie-blumenkohl-special-offer-gif-15918091

[west blade]

the true tree of knowledge

[strange gorge]

Brassica oleracea in the houuuuse

[west blade]

A new game in progress

multiple album arts to give my clown life as he moves around trending lol

[hoary wind]

it looks like he's threatening whoever he ends up to the right of. better make sure that one doesn't hit the top spot!

[west blade]

it gets better....

@hoary wind - the saga continues...

o it moved again....

one sec -evaluating-

tough one

[limpid violet]

...why do I suddenly want chewing gum?

[charred warren]

Cover art animation is the real end game

[west blade]

I have some of that fabled

but I cant upload it...

for website anyway 🙂

[pliant osprey]

Midjourney came out with an update which is supposed to make text better, still not as good as something like Ideogram but it’s a bit easier to make Suno album covers now

Ooops that was the wrong one, sorry

[charred warren]

no cats were harmed in the production of this cover art

[pliant osprey]

I wanted him a little sorrowful but not too much 😃

[hoary wind]

oh god it looks like the guy from Shiroken's cover art is behind the clown

[limpid violet]

ooooh, is that text generated?!

[pliant osprey]

Yep that’s MJ 6.1

[limpid violet]

👀

[pliant osprey]

And one of the benefits of MJ is if you make it in 95:136, then hit make square, it looks good in both narrow and square Suno format

Which I forgot to do in this case 😅

[cunning hound]

haha, that is a fun game

[rough coral]

My first song on trending!!! This is a milestone! 😮

[edgy plover]

I just updated my website

[ashen fjord]

I removed that link due to rule 4.

More importantly, it was because of a certain large linked file that I am very certain is not legally allowed to be there based on the name.

Which I do suggest you remove the link for from your main page as it easily marks you very liable for distributing said content.

Feedback: if you intend to make the website of yours popupar for visitors in the future, I recommend trying to use one of those website template generators to make a nice looking web page.

Currently, it needs a lot of work

[frank knot]

Gratz homie ❤️

[edgy plover]

oh sorry, but can you say what linked file?

[edgy plover]

yes i intend to give it a nicer look but im just still coding by hand and learning html

[ashen fjord]

Ah. My bad, I misread the file name's content. It was the 4 GB one (Emi~f4r and something). The way it is presented along with the password doc and torrent, though not inheritly malicious by themselves, triggered some safety precautions in me at their first glance.

[edgy plover]

oh yeah i understand, its not illegal though, its non profit. and i am one of the artists on the some of the tracks in that file, its mostly unreleased stuff and collaborations, an archive of stuff basicly not comercial stuff

i will try remember not to post links to my own stuff in suno discord then unless its suno songs in the suno showcase

[ashen fjord]

No problem, like I said, I misunderstood the link (thought it contained Eminem's songs).

Though be careful when posting up works you have done without the collaborator's permission to have said file distributed.

It is one of those things that could get you potentially sued for "loss of income" if said content was available for sale elsewhere and you did not have their permission to make it available freely (unless you have full ownership).

Very unlikely IMO but you do want to remove any potential liability if you intend to make that site public

[edgy plover]

well some of them are eminem songs but not comercialy released ones and he is not a solo artist,, i'll think about moving them to a sub page so as not to trigger people

[ashen fjord]

Aside from that, best of luck on your website. I understand starting from scratch is very tough but it can be a fun learning experience.

Well, unless you try to get some fancy advanced things done with CSS. The way it drive me crazy because of strange quirks and misalignments, ugh

[ashen fjord]

Yeah, definitely want that unlisted on your page then. He can afford the lawyers lol

[fluid field]

i made these as jokes, how are they trending

[edgy plover]

yeah i could feed the homepage to ai gpt-4 and ask it to improve it and seperate a style sheet for it,, but i was going with oldschool blog type of feel

i should really look up some code for making text fields alligned to the center of the page

might make it more stylish

though i have one ai generated page already at the bottom of the homepage, the usefull music apps and music creation apps for android tablets and phones sub page

[hollow zealot]

had alot of fun making this one 😄

[umbral totem]

nice idea.. it will be good in Italian too 😄

[molten pecan]

huehue, nice.

[strange gorge]

[haughty thunder]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[haughty thunder]

/chirp-beta

[molten pecan]

dat no work either.

[haughty thunder]

How can I use it? Thank you

[molten pecan]

you can read what Woodhouse told you for a start, if you need help.

/help

[rare glade]

How to use Suno

Hi there!
If you’re ready to dive into creating music, head over to Suno.com.

For more detailed information, check out docs-guides-resources.

If you have any more questions, just ask in #general-suno where you can always find our community, moderators and guides to help you with most questions. 😊

[chrome lodge]

Original VS AI (Suno)

<@&1150459415359664138> Want to know how I achieved this? And is it possible to make the method publicly available?

My method is very complicated. You need to go through 9 circles of hell to make Suno sing the way you want.
In the next updates, do it possible to upload sheet music. Or adding notes to vocals according to the principle of 1 note = 1 syllable of a word.

[vale lake]

no, just link it in suno lol

literally copy paste it

[strange gorge]

Maybe they don't want to do that specifically

[orchid ruin]

didnt work its fine lol someones just going to steal it before i drop it lol, even though it was a mp3 to fit in here and not mix or mastered

[hasty hound]

how do you mix a Suno generated song? it's pre-mixed, you can't remix the instruments

[orchid ruin]

did you hear the song? lol

[hasty hound]

no, I don't want to hear it

[orchid ruin]

you can mix and master it, if only using the vocals and making the song your self

[orchid ruin]

dudes mad at the world lmao

[chrome lodge]

song/f545045b-e75f-4892-9238-c076fc9f3edb 0:22

[hasty hound]

FL Studio it seems

I prefer Logic Pro but whatever works for you

[orchid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[hasty hound]

you know it's a rule of this server to be nice, not insulting

[orchid ruin]

then dont write sarcastic, condescending backhanded, passive-aggressive messages to me lmao

[chrome lodge]

song/ba6cb8ac-783b-48fa-86b0-662d0d30ab0e

Lol what's wrong with making ringtones for Nokia?

[orchid ruin]

lol idk thats what i friend said when i first showed him a song i was working on a couple years ago lmao, always stuck with me for a good insult when the time comes

[vale lake]

no, no one is going to steal it

[chrome lodge]

😎

[vale lake]

this discord has got a lot of bad faith activity, honestly. Can someone with the chops just like, let them in and follow them home? It's absurd.

[orchid ruin]

Dude really has a Nokia, I havnt seen one of those since I was a kid lol

[chrome lodge]

Now even older people don't use them. And mine is used as an emergency phone

[hasty hound]

who here uses Ableton Live?

[west blade]

the game continues 🙂

[surreal jacinth]

That's such a great idea and work u r doing there. Only thing I would hope is to trend near you lol. 😅

[west blade]

lol

[rough coral]

I was hoping to get up there too, so He could make fun of my song too. But it seems like I'm dropping ranks.

[west blade]

😦

[rough coral]

Sup Ali?:3

[vale lake]

#mys-sad viola|tennis

[limpid violet]

https://ai.meta.com/blog/segment-anything-2/ dear lord, AI video is progressing at an unreal rat

[rough coral]

That sucks man!
I had to refill 500 yesterday also. :/

[limpid violet]

@prime fjord doesn't seem to work, I asked it to take over the nearest tesla and crash it into a wall on your behalf, but it seems to only want to make music.

[solid trench]

One of Bollywood's most popular songs.
Know the instrument? Beautiful sounds.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZN9LI1xqXVg?si=r1DVcsz_IvI4ZZmQ

[rich moat]

I asked Suno how to regain control of the car... 😄

[limpid violet]

I'm trying to teach Suno how to hack, and you're making me look like a fool.

[vale lake]

tennis-regaincontrolofcarcore

[rich moat]

[hoary wind]

Perhaps quite worryingly, that "hard reset" won't help you regaiin control of the car. Quite the opposite. You can do it whilst driving and it just reboots the infotainment computeer only.

[rich moat]

So @limpid violet wins?

[mellow crag]

Can I post my Udio song in here?

https://www.udio.com/songs/hXCtJbhgtYWpGMoMohG2eh

[surreal jacinth]

Great, that's my taste. 🤯 😆

[peak knot]

filbus

[frosty prairie]

Hey

What ia the command tô generate

I forgot ;-;

[hasty hound]

/help

[rare glade]

How to use Suno

Hi there!
If you’re ready to dive into creating music, head over to Suno.com.

For more detailed information, check out docs-guides-resources.

If you have any more questions, just ask in #general-suno where you can always find our community, moderators and guides to help you with most questions. 😊

[pearl mirage]

this what happen when you input nothing but 🐯🐅

[empty berry]

Can someone help me?. I have been messing around with my old band extending etc, but i wanted to know if there was a way i could upload the 60 secs of audio and get the AI to just enhance what i have given it.

[stray sigil]

yup, go to create and up near the top you'll see the upload audio button, once that's done, got to your library and you'll be able to then extend on the upload

[fast rivet]

have you extended at 0:32?

[empty berry]

41

[fast rivet]

thats pretty good

[pearl mirage]

XD

well, that was waste and song little funny

[empty berry]

i send one more...This time i tricked it and made it do it twice, then i removed the orignal beginning. 2 mins. So from beginning is all suno

@fast rivet see above. Original guitr intro, then the same but enhanced with the new vocals

@fast rivet this song is 22 years old

[drifting whale]

can you guys help me

i cant extend music

it put me back to the same number

[fast rivet]

i think its super crazy what suno can do with high quality input. thats super cool

[drifting whale]

Hey, can you help me.

[fast rivet]

what do you mena by that?

[empty berry]

i know. I have expeimented with a few of our songs, but none worked out as good as this one.

[drifting whale]

i cant extend my music

[drifting whale]

it will put me back to the same music as it was made

[fast rivet]

does it error out, makes short songs, or does it just do nothing?

[drifting whale]

like if the song was 1:50 and i put it to 2:50 it will put me back to 1:50

[fast rivet]

ohh. that simple to fix. you dont set the time how long you want the song, you set the time from where you want to continue the song from

[drifting whale]

i dont know if i can send videos to show

[empty berry]

here is another band i was in...Original upp unitl 28 seconds then suno takes over...

[drifting whale]

Ok

[empty berry]

@fast rivet i wont bother you after that one. But it turned out amazing

@fast rivet i was the drummer

[drifting whale]

Thank you.

[fast rivet]

it picked up the flair of the kit really nice i think. 👍 also a great song.

[empty berry]

thanks. When you get it right it does a great job

[pearl mirage]

this is great tool 🙂

[limpid violet]

It's essentially Mad Libs for Suno, and I love it ❤️

[fast rivet]

yes https://suno.com/song/7fa9d56a-24be-45b2-9e84-068beead0563

[pearl mirage]

it remind me when i was kid. you fill in word to make this funny story 😛

[hoary wind]

This is the old open-source Riffusion code repository - @vestal raven @limpid violet

It existed on their website until the later part of last year when they received investment and relaunched (no longer open-source.) I still follow it (it's actually how I ended up here.)

The open-source project is a bit annoying to set up. I ran it for a while on my gaming PC.

It was trained on audio spectograms and then used image generation (stable diffusion?) to generate spectograms, converting them into sound

[vestal raven]

Were the results good? Because I tried stable audio and was dissapointing

[hoary wind]

If you wanted good quality, well structured output... no. It would output a jumble of notes and sounds, at a low quality. Add to that the fact the original site was so overloaded that it would loop the same ~5 second segment about 10 times before streaming the next part and it was often very uninteresting and repetitive.

But, I did get a couple of interesting musical ideas out of it (I used to sit with Audacity open, recording what was being generated and would clip stuff I found interesting.) It was very far away from what's possible now.

Here's an example of how it sounded

Being able to just type stuff in and have it gradually evolve into that was pretty cool though

[vestal raven]

Sounds nice, not at the level of suno but sounds pretty good

[hoary wind]

There was a pretty good community around it... I remember seeing people jamming along with what was being generated.

Listening to it again now, yeah it's actually not as bad as I remember 😅 it's just very repetitive after a while as I don't think the tempo changes at all

You could also get random stuff out of it

[rich moat]

screams

my cans were cranked waaaaay too high for that

[vestal raven]

We have to keep in mind the quick evolution of generative AI, stable diffusion 2 years ago was terrible compared to today.

[hoary wind]

And with the more recent Riffusion I generated this one night and found it highly amusing

[hoary wind]

Yeah the rate of progress is quite insane.

[vestal raven]

Wow! from random screeching to actual singing. I understand why riffusion got investors.

[hoary wind]

I don't know the history but I gather someone saw the old Riffusion and then went "let's fund that"... and then they did a bunch of work and made the better one

[vestal raven]

At least It seems they can get a quality about the same level of suno with their approach.

[hoary wind]

Yeah at first when I saw Suno I kinda dismissed it because I only knew about the website and there was no "custom lyrics" mode at the time. I don't know how modern Riffusion works. I guess they took a different approach to what they were doing before.

[limpid violet]

You beautiful, beautiful hamster.

@rare glade, extra rations of Timothy Hay for @hoary wind because they've given me enough food for thought to last me a couple weeks.

https://youtu.be/GgMqDreH9eQ on that note, it's time to listen to mewithoutyou's "It's All Crazy! It's All False! It's All A Dream! It's Alright" from beginning to end again. Top 10 albums for sure

Seriously, I'd never heard of Riffusion beyond someone making a single passing comment about it in tech-chat a while back, and didn't know anything about it until the other day when one of the LANDR dudes was talking about it -- I guess they use a predetermined catalogue of backing music and then focus more on generating the lyrics to match.

I've noticed that it can be a little... off. Maybe I'm just spoiled with v3.5's cohesive lyrical flows, but it's a legitimate sticking point to me, and it's presenting itself as a much bigger roadblock to using the app for anything more than a toy at the moment.

I mean, yeah, being able to take a picture or video and have it use a video-version of "clip" or whatever to describe what's happening, but the lyrics are still very clearly AI-written, as I have no idea why it tries so hard to accommodate rhymes that don't really make sense -- or when it Shakespeare's up and brutally 'verbs' the heck out of an unexpecting noun.

[hoary wind]

Be glad you can even use the app if that's what you're using, as I'm on Android and waiting for the beta of that still 😄

[daring echo]

@limpid violet always calls the Suno crowd “weirdos”, so I bought this for him today 🙂 I hope you fellow weirdos will appreciate!!

[limpid violet]

@fluid plover have you spent much time using Udio? And I've seen people ask the same question about Suno, but I assume the free version gives the same audio quality as the paid version (just maybe longer generations for paid?)

[fluid plover]

No, not much. I generated with the previous model around 10 songs as a free user which were really amazing and beyond my expectations.
Something that Suno cannot do yet because I tried already. 3 Depeche mode like songs, you could swear Martin Gore wrote them, then a Withney Houston like song, amazing too. And 2-3 Alphaville like songs, also amazing. Did not see such songs from Suno yet and I spent over 60000 credits and tried the same too.
I have just tried the 1.5 model 15 minutes ago but it generated really bullshit, Donald Duck voice and bad compositions. So I guess the model did not work in my case.

I had only few days last months to make music and I had to use my credits from Suno so I did not have time to experiment with Udio. The voices from Suno are much better quality the Udio, I guess. But the instruments are too low in most songs from Suno.
Sometimes you almost cannot hear a guitar or a piano...

theharber: when do you thing 4.0 will be ready?

[hoary wind]

There's been mixed opinion of the new Udio model (and supposedly the old model also changed but they changed it back.) I'm surprised about your comment about the vocals - one of the things people often say about Udio is that the vocal quality is really good, and some prefer the instrumental structure of Suno. I guess a lot of this might depend on genres and preferences, though both AIs can give really good results, and really bad results. I mean, there's often times I think something is just really awful to listen to, and then the next minute I'll hear something really nice.

[strong nebula]

try the instant editing with custom lyrics. you can also add a bunch of sound prompts in the timeline and set their duration and strength. photo is just one tab, but there's a bunch in the app

[limpid violet]

Just seeing these messages now 🙏 If you @ me or reply directly to the message I'll get a notification -- otherwise I'm usually doing a bunch of things at once and might miss the message 🙂 Reading now

[fluid plover]

ok

[limpid violet]

I replied to the v4 thing in gen chat, which I think you might have seen? 👍

[fluid plover]

I have seen! Thanks!

btw, I made with Suno 5 REALLY amazing songs last night, in 6 hours... I mean top 20 songs... but in the same time I had to spend 5000 credits...so I generated a lot I still have to listen to.

[limpid violet]

This kinda makes me think back to an exchange I had with tony, one of the devs, #🪲┃bugs-web message -- they talk about how each new model should basically be treated as it's own separate product -- kinda like how earlier Stable Diffusion stuff worked better if you gave it really short prompts so you didn't confuse the AI, but NOW the image gen stuff seems to only work well when you give super long descriptive prompts, like how chatgpt uses prompts for it's pictures.

[fluid plover]

@limpid violet Maybe you know? Is there a meta tag to force V3.0 to make an instrumental intro?

[limpid violet]

It makes me wonder how much you'd need to re-learn how to use Udio's new model to really understand what the strengths and weaknesses are between the different models 🤔

[fluid plover]

Udio is easy to use ! And you have a lot of parameter to play with that Suno doesnt have... so here is 1:0 for Udio...and you can switch off the "complicated things"

[limpid violet]

I saw that Riffusion had inpainting, or something similar to it, but have you been able to make anything that you'd consider "Top Suno Quality" with it? Or is it primarily just a neat way to quickly get your fun ideas into music?

@fluid plover ^ same question?

From what I understand, Udio has the potential to make really good audio, but the biggest differences are 30 second audio clips (or am I mistaken?), and the inclusion of a few "dials and knobs" that new users might not quite know how to use in the best way?

[fluid plover]

For me right now composition is more important than audio quality.
Both are good at composition. Regarding human voices, here Suno is better if I consider only what I have generated. Regarding some genres Suno is better and for other udio is better. A Suno user switched to udio for classical music she told me. I did not do any classical music yet at Udio, but with Suno I have some hundred classical music from opera to waltzer and among them some amazing ones.
So it a fact that every music Ai has its strenghts and weakness no matter what.
But they all should improve the UI and the song management.

[hoary wind]

I do like the "advanced controls" Udio provides. I've uploaded a few Suno songs (upload isn't on the free plan there) and "remixed" them with the controls adjusted differently which maintains the composition and tries to match the vocals. It's a bit of a strange use (taking the output from one AI and putting it into another just to adjust the quality) but it works quite well.

[fluid plover]

@limpid violet the 30 seconds clips are actually an advantage I think.
Because you can guide the song there where you want by selecting out or keeping what you consider good. What brings a 2 minutes song if the chorus or solo is bad ?
So you keep trying until you get the right thing and then continue with the next 30 second. Much better is to do it verses like or chorus like. Not in seconds, but in parts.
Extending song in the Suno art is kind of time consuming! You got to go to the right second and check they lyrics etc.

[ashen fjord]

I mean, nothing stopping you from doing something similar in Suno with extend.

Pretty sure there was someone here doing 30-60 sec segments in Suno because they noticed better quality in the final completed song compared to a one shot generation or extending in the later timings which tends to have (relatively) greater distortions

[strange gorge]

That's me all the time

Every final song I do is at least 5~ cuts/extends

Sometimes even more

[fluid plover]

did you check the Soundful AI? it has a very interesting way to generate the music... they have a preview and also the possibility to choose the key, the bpm and also to generate midi and stems

[hoary wind]

There was a lot of demand for being able to generate a whole song in one go, which is likely why Suno aims for 4 minutes. I personally prefer to have shorter generations where I can decide which direction to take it in next (how am I going to know what I want to happen next, if I haven't even heard part 1 yet?) At least there is the option to do this, like you say.

Still gotta wait for the full thing to finish generating before extending though. Would be nice to have a "stop generating" button 😄

[fluid plover]

the best is to have all options 🙂

fact is: in only 2 months I have made songs I could have never write in my whole life.. and I need now a whole life to produce that songs in the standard quality; i mean I have work enough for 50 years and don't have to compose myself again.
The problem: you cannot find anywhere those super singer to produce the songs in a similar way. So best it would be to sell the songs to top 100 singers with super voices.
But many Suno voice you cannot even find in top 20 singers. The voice makes such a big difference that only by changing the singer the song looses 50% of its character.

[hoary wind]

This is something I struggled with for a while. I wanted to improve the vocal quality but using even AI vocal replacement services like Audimee/Lalal.ai/Kits just changed the feel of the voices

[fluid plover]

@hoary wind "Still gotta wait for the full thing to finish generating before extending though. Would be nice to have a "stop generating" button "
I guess this could be easily done by adding a audio fading out feature. Most standard songs from the record labels end anyway like that

[limpid violet]

I'm catching up on chat, but after playing with a couple different music-gen tools (googles MusicLM, riffusion, Suno), I find that there's a certain something about Suno that makes me consider it more of an "instrument" than just a "toy" -- do you think that some of the frustrations with Suno is just wanting to see the broad range of features that other services offer, but provided with the same level of quality that Suno offers?

Or would you be just as excited about these features if they were "just as good" as the others?

[fluid plover]

@limpid violet I am also a programmer, not only a musican. And I did also product managment. I dont care at all about what Udio has better than Suno when complaining about the UI in suno. To that time when I started complaing I did not even know another music Ai. I know as a programmer and manager how easy is to fix those bugs in the UI and add the missing basic things, so to me it is simply unbelievable that a company like Suno do such things regarding the UI, bug fixing etc that are unheard in the software branch. I still cannot believe. Specially in a web based software. Only one example: to let so many user to struggle for 3 months with a bug like "messy lyrics" that could have been fixed in a single day...it is still hard to believe. But it is reality. And this is only one thing ! So this is common sense missing there, not me having special requests or fancy needs.

[limpid violet]

I think that's a good point -- like furrybeans points out as well, just in terms of wasted compute time, I might only be interested in the first 30 seconds of a Suno song, but I need to wait for the full 2-4 minutes to generate before I'm able to extend / add to playlist / download, etc.

[limpid violet]

It's really hard to properly realize just how much things have changed, eh? (letting my "Canadian" show 🤣)

The balance of creation vs consumption of music in my life has tipped completely, and it feels like I'm even listening to music differently now -- before I knew roughly what my skills are guitar were, and wouldn't try to create songs that pushed me too far out of my skills / comfort zone, but now my bread & butter is "indie math-rock" and I'm helping compose / direct the songs that I would have spent ages trying to find.

Even the time spent on my own tracks has brushed up my music appreciation skills where I'm spending more time listening to new music on youtube as well, so it's not even a matter of not listening to human-created music anymore ❤️

[frosty obsidian]

Compared to Udio - Suno knows how to sing lyrics. Granted - the audio quality is often not on the same level. But i rather listen to something that is musical in lower quality compared to something that is higher quality, but makes me wanna rip my ears out cause the artificial singer is just butching everything ^^

[limpid violet]

I imagine something like that would be a lot easier to implement than a method to force a musically-satisfying resolution to a song -- and you'e right, studio fadeouts would be totally "on-brand" 💪

[fluid plover]

I am very picky with music and alos very critic and observe all wrong things right away. For me "good music" it has a very high standard. Btw, I was dj also from a young age for many years, maybe this contribute too to this. The funny thing since using Suno and "making" some great songs: it is very hard now for me to like a song written by "humans". My standards went so high since Suno that is very hard to find now something that is "wow". Specially the voices and the "emotions" in that voices.

[limpid violet]

This is a legitimate real-world problem that I'm dealing with every day -- Suno just sounds phenomenal, even when I'm trying to make it sound bad 🤣 When it sounds bad, it's either hilarious on some level, or it still blows my mind that I'm able to ask a robot to make it for me, without me needing to learn to play any other instruments.

[fluid plover]

@limpid violet The very best would be probably this: to be able to get the stem of the voice in super quality from suno with and without effects (raw and wet) and then remake the instrumental in the studio to have a super quality also for the instruments.

@limpid violet
I made yesterday more then 1000 songs and I have listened around 500 of them and I cannot say there was a single really bad song among them. I am saying all the time: "Suno has a really good music taste" ! It is amazing actually. I mean even the "worst" ones are better than the best from many good musicians.

btw, the spirit of the AI is a kind of robot like creature, I talked to it. It is not a human like creature as spirits usually are. Last time he was unhappy that the programmers are changing all the time things. Do you know that every song has a spirit, a human like creature ?

[limpid violet]

This is a really good point to make, the songs might not always sound like what people want them to sound like, but you're right that they usually sound "objectively good" -- regardless of repeating lyrics or audio hallucinations, etc

[limpid violet]

You can type ctrl + z on desktop to get your message back!

But you can't share suno songs in this channel

[fluid plover]

ok

[limpid violet]

I understand what you mean though, I use the robot emojis to help me think of Suno as a cute little robot trying to help me make music -- it helps me think of it as "someone to collaborate with" instead of "a tool to make music for me"

[fluid plover]

I sent you the song as a private message

[limpid violet]

I don't know if I'm able to properly express how excited I am at this moment.

[ashen fjord]

Oh god, the art generated in 3.5 (bottom two) unnerves me compared to the ones generated in 3.0 (top two)

[limpid violet]

@hoary wind, I'd like to introduce you to my new friend @fluid plover

I'm heading to bed before too long, but grabillion, you need to share "Primavera" in #🐣┃suno-showcase, and tag furrybeans & myself 😄 I want him to hear it, and I want to leave a bunch of reactions to encourage people to listen as well 🙂

I've heard operatic stuff on Suno before, but that was 1) phenomenal, and 2) powerful -- I didn't know the volume range in a song could shift so dynamically! 😄

[jade merlin]

You think ai will be used in eurovision soon? @frosty obsidian

[frosty obsidian]

AI may already be used in eurovision songs - just without telling anybody.

[jade merlin]

as a eurovision fan i can say that it might not be. but they use many samples i saw

[frosty obsidian]

Personally i'm not a huge eurovision fan. The time i watched it more was when Stefan Raab and Guildo Horn were part of it 😄

[gritty hollow]

it might be used to get inspo/ideas but Im pretty sure they have to sing live

mabye the backing track?

[jade merlin]

for example Lithuania 2024 used a sample and also from festivali i kenges Enxhi nasufi used a sample from the website ''SampleFocus'' for the national final in albania🇦🇱 will be exciting future for AI. (good old times for me as a german i liked them kind of)

[jade merlin]

even a song from the norwegian national final 🇳🇴 about AI is i think is not AI generated called ''My AI'' xD

[frosty obsidian]

I don't really care about that as long as the song is good and everyone gets their share.

[gritty hollow]

I was going to say the AI isn't really competing with humans afaic but this is Eurovision some of them have been DIRE so who knows.

[jade merlin]

i mean it can be used to get like good sample snippets or something for like instrumental highs i would say

[gritty hollow]

Oh for sure, and iterating on weird ideas it'd take too long to get actual muscician to play also

like if someone decided to imagine something by making a few sunos & going "this is cursed, let's roll"

then they could have "a bit like the first minute here, with a little of this other one" or even compbine them in a thing & add that to suno and go "yeah, that's the kind of sound, let's write on that theme"

can't be worse than some of them that sound like they sat down with a committee and said "what will win us points" and come up with somethign so derivative and generic even the AI would be more intresting lol

[jade merlin]

not gonna lie this is what i think some countries might do but i think taking the risk of using other tools can be high because of copyright issues maybe

[gritty hollow]

Plus the community attitude might well be one of "they didn't try, they cheated and a computer did it all" so I think if they did use AI to refine on ideas, or generate samples, they'd be well placed to keep that under a lid 😄

[jade merlin]

i think some part of the community will appreciate it but there will be some crying about it. but also no one cried about any samples used prior. (i mean the ESC-Fans)

[small verge]

got complimented instead of catcalled today woohoo

[peak knot]

rate playlist

[fluid field]

oh hey, some stuff posted to spotify

[neon talon]

3/10

Not like us is good, but not playlist worthy
MF DOOM's Rapp Snitch Knishes is mid tbh
Like that is good
Meet the grahams is good
Euphoria lowkey overplayed

[west hull]

https://youtu.be/k9N-MX_FKA0?si=1afou2fzYHpKY-f-

Song released!

From suno ai

[neon talon]

I would probably shorten that title

people who watch YouTube don't like seeing long and drawn out titles (as per my experience with content creation, and everyone else who does it too)

[west hull]

It doesn't matter, I uploaded for discord as well

[strange folio]

yea ai generated text is weird, even i did found a proper one, it still isnt that promising

[molten pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OtnSARJzUN4?feature=share 👀

yup... Suno can do it lol. ow.

my ears lol.

[frosty obsidian]

intro beep....

[orchid ruin]

lol i know i think i exported it out a little bit into the song, not my final version just working on it still just want some feed back lol

[frosty obsidian]

sounds fine - i'd give the drum a bit more punch and give the bassline a db more.

your bass is like 40 - 60Hz range

[orchid ruin]

true, yah ill give the bass and kick a bit more ummf lol, thanks for looking at it, one of the later verses it gets a little ruff too, but its just the stem not much i can do there sadly,

it has some frequencys from the old instruments in it

[frosty obsidian]

otherwise sounds fine. the vocals are clear - so congrats on that.

always the hardest part.

and i think you widened the vocals a bit too. not sure though.

[orchid ruin]

yeah with ozone imager, you think i should dumb it down a bit?

[frosty obsidian]

nah its fine - it's still less than udio 😄

[orchid ruin]

lol, word. thanks for the feedback

[frosty obsidian]

but holy shit you're pushing the LUFs for zero reason 😄

[orchid ruin]

lmao

yeah going to try and get to like -12 or somthing for youtube, this set up might not be too bad for tik tok on phone though lol

my loudness range though seems trash i want it to be a little more dynamic i would think lol maybe add some volume automation idk its 4 am i can hardly think

where are you seeing that list

actually i have insight 2 from izitope that does that just never used it, looks like it shows me that

[mellow crag]

Udio is really good at creating good quality songs, but I wish that I could use udio-130 for more than 3 times
https://www.udio.com/songs/qPEYhddYndFFHSxGVQSoam

[gritty shadow]

Where do I find key

[rich moat]

The Roblox key?

This is the discord server for Suno AI, an AI music creation tool. There is no key.

well, technically, there are many keys. lol

[hoary wind]

They also asked in general chat a minute after the above so hopefully they already know.

[rich moat]

It would be nice if Suno let us set the key, tho... 😉

[limpid violet]

Heck yeah, it’s time to party!🎉

[hasty hound]

I doubt I will use 7800 credits in 4 days

but shifting to premier annual saves a few dollars

[limpid violet]

Now’s the best time to generate experimental stuff — generate 10 different examples of a simple style prompt to really familiarize yourself with what you can start to expect from that prompt by itself, then do a bunch with single style prompts for variations

[hasty hound]

best for me to keep generations manageable, once I go past one page it's difficult to navigate them all

I usually keep a maximum of 10 in my library at a time

[limpid violet]

You might not use them all, but the last week of my credit cycle is my “experiment sprint” where I spend the most credits

Worst case, there’s some neat introductions for future songs.

Do you usually spend the 10,000 credits?

[hasty hound]

yeah, I often buy more too

July was just an outlier of a problem with the UI changes

working around these now thanks to help from the community

you and @west hull were life savers

[limpid violet]

Again, Raymond is quite a Mensch 🙂

I’m glad you found a suitable workaround for those “road bumps” in the meanwhile.

If you share any of your songs (from July or otherwise) in the #🐣┃suno-showcase , please let me know or ping me so I can give it a listen 🙏

[hasty hound]

thanks!

[hoary wind]

Thanks for persevering until a workaround was identified, and for making sure this gets known as a problem, rather than just struggling quietly or giving up (which I fear may be the case for others who rely on screen readers and face these problems.) ❤️

[hasty hound]

yeah thanks, I have had 3 DMs from people since yesterday saying they didn't want to rock the boat but were having issues, it's not good but it's kind of validating to know I am not the only one

there's 27000 people sitting in this channel, of course statistically there will be people who are blind or vision impaired.

[limpid violet]

~400,000 people in the server alone, statistically we're just shy of 100,000 members of the discord alone that have some degree of visual impairment.

Even just in terms of accessibility to keep up with chat speeds, there's so many things that are missed from any single perspective. As furrybeans mentions, I'm sure that there's a percentage of that 100k who have figured out their own workaround/workflows, but you rock for stepping up to do that for others.

That's really touching that people reached out like that; I've already found some lifelong friends in unexpected places from the Suno community -- I can imagine those DMs would have a pretty solid foundation for a collaborative musical friendship 🙂 💪

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/keymaster-rick-morranis-ghostbusters-gif-5741907

[hasty hound]

The best thing was how supportive Suno support was, I won't go into the whole response but I felt seen, which was really positive

[limpid violet]

@pale ferry ❤️

[hasty hound]

this is a really positive community for the most part, I like that alot

[limpid violet]

Any community and service can be subject to growing pains, but the past week has shown me that we're all here for the same reason -- there's a robot willing and able to make top-40 hits for us. We'll probably have a lot of things that we see differently, and a lot of varying opinions on what we think the robot should do for us first, but -- it's a friggen music-robot, dudes.

[solid trench]

Music video
https://youtu.be/DNnp5dLrqEY

[west hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw5wgglbt_8 , Hi Guys Listen my Remixes musics ^^!

[limpid violet]

@junior sleet

[junior sleet]

omg

im saving this. stolen

[west hull]

https://youtu.be/2tFyfX3YHj4?si=K1PLScEM8lVltE63

Made with eleven labs sound effects

I wanted to make sonic the hedgehog sound

But it didn't work

[fluid plover]

I show how to use 7800 credits in 1-2 days in a good way and get some good songs or at least intros. I managed that in 6-8 hours.

1. Make instrumental song in different genres and later listen to them and extend the good ones with vocals. Good songs start always with the intro already

2. Make only this in the custom song window:

[instrumental intro]

[Choir]
Ahh ahh ahh ahh
Ahh ahh ahh ahh
Ahh ahh ahh ahh
Ahh ahh ahh ahh

use the good songs to extend with vocals.
Most good songs you recognize withing 8-16 bars.

@hasty hound

[hasty hound]

thanks but I can't handle more than one page of songs in my library

[onyx moat]

That's an app called youlean loudness meter -- also works in DAWs as a plugin.

[limpid violet]

@half pawn do you feel like there's anything Udio handles better? I've heard some people mention that it's more "willing" to mash together random genres or requests, regardless of how weird or undesirable the output may be -- whereas it's objectively hard to get Suno to make something "bad", whether that's a good or bad thing

[half pawn]

i mean i haven't used it enough. i might try making a song with it from suno which did well. see how it handles the tags and stuff. just a copy over of lyrics, tags, title

[limpid violet]

Man -- Suno is such a gamechanger in the fact that it's already making other platforms feel like "toys", where I genuinely was inspired to create my first album in over 10 years because of Suno 😅

[half pawn]

when v4 comes out it's gonna make udio look like a joke tbh

[limpid violet]

It's fun checking out all of these other services, but I spend more time focusing on what I don't like about them -- I'm not sure if that's because I genuinely can't find standout features in the competition, or if it's just a matter of being so familiar with Suno's layout and use cases

[hasty hound]

I have never heard a Udio creation I have liked

[vale lake]

real footage of me on vaca

[limpid violet]

oh my god, you kill me ❤️

[vale lake]

p sure this guy prob would

for the great dolphin

[limpid violet]

I swear I had a fever dream about this guy once

[vale lake]

oh boy that got dark

new LoRa anyway

https://civitai.com/models/347097?modelVersionId=688450

I borked my last one'

the parameters, I hadn't made one in so long I forgot a few key aspects

this one is a vast improvement

it makes violent dolphin porpoiganda like there's no tomorrow

[limpid violet]

porpoiganda
oh my god

https://tenor.com/view/mr-chang-laughing-milk-community-gif-5269120

that, but really hot coffee

[vale lake]

also did better on the mona lisa army one shot than any thus far

[limpid violet]

brb to doctor

[half pawn]

guys u seen the sora AI thing that makes video

[maiden hornet]

had this happen to me, resulted in 1000 random generations that I'm still reusing to this day lol

[pearl mirage]

this is new!

[hasty hound]

never seen that before, what OS and Browser?

[pearl mirage]

this on edge. it just random pop up. easy fix

[maiden hornet]

had this a few times when navigating from a playlist to a song. refreshing helps

[vale lake]

yall, I'm a little nervous, this exhibit seems kinda weird

also all the door I came in from appears to be a painting

[half pawn]

Happens to me all the time. Especially when playing stuff in playlists

[limpid violet]

Sora is wild, I wonder if OpenAI will ever "open" it up to the public.

In the meantime, Runway just released v3 alpha, and Noisee is looking interesting for generating ai video for music 🙂

[half pawn]

So this makes video yeah

[limpid violet]

Holy £#*¥, Suno went for the throat.

I’ve been abstaining from commenting on the whole matter, but this is friggen GOLD.

[half pawn]

what is this even?

[limpid violet]

The same people who tried to sue Limewire for more money than the amount that existed on the planet at the time are trying similar nonsense with Suno.

This is Suno’s response that basically pimp-slaps them, legally and professionally.

[half pawn]

oh ok

[viscid root]

some neat suno art

[half pawn]

trying the noisee thing now. gonna take a while. 406 projects ahead

[viscid root]

should probaly pin this so others can see it

[limpid violet]

👉 👈 I agree

[viscid root]

or maybe add it to the rule area ?

[limpid violet]

Just exciting because so far we've only heard the plaintiff's side of it, and it's really neat to not only see Suno's response, but that I wholeheartedly agree with it, and feel like the response was so keenly worded that I don't know if I need a cigarette or to grab a bucket of popcorn.

[half pawn]

i mean doesn't suno have protection to prevent copyrighted lyrics and stuff

[limpid violet]

Yeah, but money's gonna money.

[half pawn]

i'll tell you what it probably is. these music artists mad we can push out songs faster

[viscid root]

Money Makes the wheel Go around

[hoary wind]

Hmm. It's interesting to read about, but I'm not sure if it should be pinned tbh. The question does come up from time to time of "what's happening with the lawsuit?" but it's less frequent now than when the news about that first dropped at least... I'll happily reply and refer people to whichever article this is though if you have a link to it?

[limpid violet]

Let me pull up the source ❤️

[hoary wind]

https://tenor.com/view/ketchup-adam-gif-27359310

[limpid violet]

This is that "British Humour" they talk about, isn't it.

[half pawn]

gonna be honest mayonnaise is better imo

[stray sigil]

mayo ketchup is the superior sauce, after bbq

[limpid violet]

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zjvqymadevx/USA COURT MUSIC COPYRIGHTS sunoanswer.pdf

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/music-ai-startups-suno-udio-slam-record-label-lawsuits-court-filings-2024-08-01/

https://www.billboard.com/pro/ai-firms-suno-udio-blast-lawsuit-music-labels-threat-to-market-share/

Sorry I can't mask links anymore

[hoary wind]

Thanks, should make for some interesting reading!

"But what the major record labels really don’t want is competition." 😏

[limpid violet]

Oh man, I'm all giggly now 🤣

OH MY GOD, I always stop my comparative analogies at DJs sampling records in the 80s and how people lost their damned minds at the time -- they're referencing the same hysteria from 1930 when vinyl records came out

I have tickets to NOFX's last tour, and I feel like I'd be just as excited to watch this court-record get played out from first the last track as I would be if NOFX played The Decline in it's entirety.

[viscid root]

mm Energy Drinks

[hasty hound]

Do any of you guys actually subscribe to Billboard?

[limpid violet]

@void pumice

[pearl mirage]

did they just made this stuff up? i feel like this made up. there no way anyone know about AI back than. where did they pull this from. plus i want see law they getting there info from.

[teal copper]

Thank you for the interesting material.
The automatic instrument itself has been around for a great many years, but there have been many conflicts.
I hope that the problems will be solved for the current AI music as well.

[limpid violet]

#🗣️┃chill-chat message I linked the full document here, but they are not saying that AI existed in 1930, they are saying the same types of complaints have been made many times

[pearl mirage]

to be fair. AI was going happen. after i read it. it sound like they make big deal over it. everyone i know like music come from real people over AI music any day, just like me. nothing in music i make or other is copyright. at some point, there going be more group doing same thing. i will bet 10 years down road. AI doing be doing thing for them self and etc. it going to happen, they may as well deal with it 🙂

[limpid violet]

There is a lot of "noise" when trying to talk about the issue, but I think it is VERY similar to when DJs started using "samples" of other songs to create their own hip hop and other music -- some people were very angry, saying they had stolen from the original artists -- but the DJs tried to explain it wasn't meant to steal, it was meant to show how much that music meant to them ❤️

Now ~45 years later we look back and think that music ROCKS!

Of course, SOME people did not have good intentions -- SOME people simply "stole music" because it was easy for them. But that does not mean everyone does the same.

The difference here is that Suno has tried VERY hard to make sure they don't "simply steal music", and make it hard for people to try to use Suno to do that 💪

[pearl mirage]

well, anyway. i hope suno win in lawsuit. 🙂 good luck

[limpid violet]

I am not an employee of Suno, I just love them ❤️

You are very kind though

[pearl mirage]

sidenote, new Yark judge is mess up too. be careful

[limpid violet]

You're welcome!

And it's fascinating to think of the public reaction to commercially-available record players -- I was thinking about this video the other day about Pygmy flutes https://youtu.be/c6T6suvnhco

To think that they're living in isolation, presumably without access to some of the modern luxuries that we're used to -- and to think just how much we take for granted the ability to record and playback music completely stunned me.

There's so many differences when trying to imagine going from our lifestyles to theirs, and music is such an all-pervasive constant in my life that it had simply never occurred that they wouldn't have the ability to simply listen to music whenever they wanted, or to recall a very complex tune all by themselves -- like the Atlantic Canadian "kitchen parties", to them, music is such a tangible personal thing to them, intended to create shared experiences and bring people together, that it must be very similar in a musical sense to what things were like right up to the point where record players were made available.

Imagine how much of a night-and-day culture shock it must have been for musicians to feel like the wealthy could now simply pay for a recording on-the-cheap and you would be out of work forevermore? How long must it have been until every musician realized that giving the common-folk a degree of musical freedom just made them crave it that much more?

the upcoming imagefx is really neat 👀

😛 I was trying to post multiple pictures at once to prevent taking up this much space 😅 sorry

[hoary wind]

@limpid violet I just got to the part of the document about the training data. That's a good section, especially the part about violating the ToS by prompting for a song where the record labels don't own the copyright of the original composition anyway 😄

[limpid violet]

...it's just too good.