🗣️┃chill-chat

[edgy plover]

any sugestions on what to listen to?

[heavy forum]

Suno trending is very popular rn <:

[limpid violet]

https://youtu.be/MJ7chrLEZm4 I'll recommend Delicate Steve until the day I die

[edgy plover]

yeah i see! thanks i'll check the explore and pick any moods there thanks for the reply dudes

[round sun]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/widm2cjOkgg

[neat sage]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B93xjHaLGHk?si=g3C18LyJSk4cLcnL DAMMMM

[bold hare]

hey guys!

Curious if anyone here wants to help test my AI LLM powered livestream on twitch

You can talk to historical figures in real time in the chat

https://www.twitch.tv/timelesstakes

It is currently Einstein, Jobs, Monroe & MJ but we are adding more characters every week

[faint oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL542920k_cOrKlB4WaQnDD3fwdon1USR8

[past glacier]

hes what some kind of Lemillion that walks through things?

[elder oasis]

Can somebody tell me what is "Plunderphonics" genre?

[past glacier]

sampling genre

makin musics samplin other songs

[elder oasis]

OH! Thanks. So, if I put this as genre, i can convert a vocal to DJ like remix, right?

[past glacier]

i guess

[elder oasis]

Let me try it.

[elder oasis]

Oh man it worked!! I'm out of words

[obsidian hare]

I"m adding both a dropdown selection, so you can save settings.ini files with different names and keep them in the root, and load them, or share them with people by simply giving them the settings file...

As well as an Output for Suno button which, when checked, will start recording in 19 second increment wav files so you can upload them to suno.

[obsidian hare]

those werent images woodhouse 😛

[obsidian hare]

This has been added and works now, when recording it makes 19 second incremental wav files for suno to use.

[obsidian hare]

If anyone has ideas for other interesting features to add to this, please let me know and I'll see how doable they are

My immediate next thought is scale selection

[obsidian hare]

I just think its pretty, this is 100 planets, max elliptical orbit.

[prime bronze]

Hopefully v4 before lawsuit finishes

[cedar wing]

omg

[cedar wing]

-spiral galaxy,
-turn it into a audio sample manager
-change the colors of planets randomly over time
-turn the planets into star systems
-click button to add new star
-asteriod belts

[obsidian hare]

Sorry had to pause for spaghetti lol but I'll look into it, im thinking of how to make the spiral galaxy work, Colors is in progress with themes, I think them transitioning between colors should be doable.

The planets can actually have an infinite number of moons, so I think the idea of making them a star system is already possible (Though my test of 2000 entities started to lag a bit)

Astroid belts can sorts be done with moons as well,

Though I think for optimization I'll probably have to push this over to opengl (still from a 2D perspective) just so I can fit more entities in there to make this work.

Anyway thanks I'll look into these, free day tomorrow

[cedar wing]

If you could make it look like the spore menu that would be awesome

Not sure if even feasible lol

[obsidian hare]

Ah so like, slowly moving towards the center potentially, but mostly like a pinwheel kind of thing? I dont think these pulled in much so it would be very pinwheel like

[obsidian hare]

First attempt at a spiral orbit lol problems needing more entities. It's interesting but still and endless loop. anyway I'll keep working on it and will let you know if it gets working

[cedar wing]

Based on my experiments trying to make a tkinter spiral pinwheel with GPT4o, I’d say it will be challenging 😚🥶

[terse charm]

Aperently youtube is training licensed songs for ai music

Thats cool it means music becomes less strict anywhere

Does anyone know any videogame wherr you can generate levels with ai?

[obsidian hare]

This little guy is booking it 😝

idk what happened with the size, or the noise

[cedar wing]

Lmaooo

Rouge planet! Everyone stay calm!

The sky is falling!

[terse charm]

Wait since this is off toppic you can post anything in hzre as long as its not nsfw right? Like anything?

[severe kelp]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[hoary wind]

Current level of tiredness:
Makes coffee and returns to desk
Wonders where the coffee is
Of course, it's still in the kitchen 🤦‍♂️

[obsidian hare]

I think I got it working, this is the idea right?

They slow down as they move outwards, it took a bit of config to get it to sound pleasant

[cedar wing]

Is this python?

[obsidian hare]

Yep just python, the github is up above

[cedar wing]

I swear I thought we were in the websim discord this whole time and you were doing this in js ahaha

But that’s actually way cooler!

I can share with you my own galaxy code then!

[cedar wing]

Theoretically you would have 5 arms not just 1

https://github.com/zrebarchak/Sample-Galaxy-Stuffs

Take a look and feel free to steal /borrow anything !

I could never get it exactly how I wanted anyways :3

[obsidian hare]

this doesnt link anywhere for me unfortunately

[cedar wing]

Ooh maybe I have it private

Yes I do . Let me make it public quickly :3

When you get it, it’s just 4 scripts that run by themselves. Rly simple

[cedar wing]

https://github.com/zrebarchak/Sample-Galaxy-Stuffs should be public now!

[obsidian hare]

It definitely helped to get arms working from one of your samples, gotta figure out why the spiral inverted, or potentially it took a negative value from me in the generator. The generator can set number of arms now though for spiral galaxy mode.

It added some other stuff making it a bit more unpleasent, but I'm stopping for the day to get some other stuff done, its consumed me for the day and I gotta catch up on stuff lol I'll keep on it tomorrow though

itll tale a bit of sim time before they begin to look more natural

Since somewhat unnaturally they are starting in a line, and then have to be pulled to look more normal over time by angular velocity adjustments like the center

It also added in some rotational speed adjustments, which makes it more like a record, and that screwed up the sound, so I guess i'm lucky sound didnt record lol if I had my volume up it would have blown something

not unfixable though and in the right direction

[terse charm]

Sam altman has robot guards lol

[woeful walrus]

but yeah, definitely check out minoring/dual degrees in human resources or social work

they share 90% of the classes

wouldn't even add an extra year of school

[high stump]

so like

idk if the education system is the same as america

[woeful walrus]

that's if you want to major in psychology

[high stump]

but you mean in college right?

cuz like where i am right now i can't just up and about to classes that I want

[woeful walrus]

yeah, in actual university

for your degrees

[high stump]

I'm really demotivated to do anything rn lmao

oof

[woeful walrus]

send it lmao

you're young, don't worry about mistakes until you're 25-30

like you're in yuroop right?

[high stump]

asia.

southeast.

[woeful walrus]

do you plan on moving to the west with your degree?

[high stump]

i've really never thought that far

Actually i've never even travelled outside of the country i live in

or the state for that matter

3rd world wooo

[woeful walrus]

either way, throughout the world

[limpid violet]

It's not QUITE the same as classes, but do you have access to https://www.khanacademy.org/ in your country?

[woeful walrus]

the average age to move out of your parents home is between 25-30 now

so for all intents and purposes

you're a child

[high stump]

wait what, its all free?

[limpid violet]

OH YEAH

[high stump]

yeah it just seems unrealistic to get a job ato

atp

at around my age

[woeful walrus]

i mean if you go social work/HR

[woeful walrus]

that's the double sided sword

also khan academy is sick for actual learning

but it's useless for work

[high stump]

I thought about doing investments/trading but i dont know how to start 💀💀💀

[woeful walrus]

do actually recommend that shit if you just want to learn about shit

[limpid violet]

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

[woeful walrus]

i don't want to speak investments/trading because that's super different depending on countries

[high stump]

that is crazy

[woeful walrus]

even going from american to european trading is weird

[high stump]

internationally?

[woeful walrus]

yeah

[high stump]

ahh

[woeful walrus]

like i can run you all over the place on american stuff

[limpid violet]

They have SO MUCH on here

[woeful walrus]

but i tried teaching a friend in georgia about it and.... his system is weird as hell

[high stump]

but if its foreign exchange then the profits might vary?

[woeful walrus]

and my cursory glances at the japanese/german markets are weird too

[high stump]

also i just want to ask

do you know where to get like

Abhorrently cheap jp streetwear

[woeful walrus]

like looks like jp streetwear

[high stump]

like diabolical 10 dollar shirts or something like that

[woeful walrus]

or actual jp streetwear

[high stump]

both

[woeful walrus]

japanese yahoo auctions

for real stuff

[high stump]

yahoo 💀😭😭 i've never been there

[woeful walrus]

looks like jp streetwear just dig through aliexpress

yahoo auctions is their ebay

[high stump]

aliexpress is blocked in my country so i have no choice

[woeful walrus]

vpn then proxy ship

you'll need to proxy ship anyway

https://buyee.jp/yahoo/auction?lang=en

[high stump]

they dont ship to my country

i think.

[woeful walrus]

that's why you proxy ship

like buyee.jp is a japanese proxy shipper

you buy on yahoo auctions

ship to the proxy shipper

then they ship to you

[high stump]

oh so its like

they get the item and give it to you

[woeful walrus]

yeah

[high stump]

is there an extra price?

[woeful walrus]

depends

some proxee shippers are flat fee, some are percentage

and obviously you pay shipping

buyee i think is like.... $5

it's cheap

[high stump]

i worked at like

a fast food place during the holidays and racked up 50 dollars

for a month that is

😭

but yeah i mean i'm trying to find ways to get cheap stuff to sell again for some small profit

[woeful walrus]

proxy ship from china man

if most people don't know how to buy from china you'll have an edge

you can still get packages from china right, just not use their site

[high stump]

i found an rtx 3070 for like 150 dollars the other day and i was drooling on it

but my broke ass cant afford shi so like 💀

I'll keep the yahoo stuff in mind

[woeful walrus]

actually curious what this is going to get to

[high stump]

I've been trying to find some menial work online but its been tuff

[woeful walrus]

that shirt would sell for 150-200 in the US easy

[high stump]

fr?

[woeful walrus]

it's a yohji yamamoto neighborhood collab

people in the know would pay top dollar lmao

like did you see the yohji yamamoto tekken stuff?

[high stump]

damn 💀 im pretty dumb on stuff like this tbh 😭

i've just been slapping on plain colour stuff so i don't really care where its from if its fresh and cheap

[woeful walrus]

famous japanese fashion designer

p much japanese rick owens

[high stump]

oh

[woeful walrus]

single handedly shaped the idea of "black" in japanese high fashion

[high stump]

OH WAIT

Its that guy?

[high stump]

i saw like 3rd impact or something talking about his style

[woeful walrus]

i got this yohji yamamoto tekken sweater 2 years ago for like... 310 after shipping

bought in a medium, flipped it for $650 two weeks later

lol

[high stump]

that is insane wtaf?

[woeful walrus]

tbh it flipped super hard because it was a supreme collab

[high stump]

i wouldnt dare to spend more than 30

[woeful walrus]

honey it's high fashion lmao

[faint oracle]

rich westerners 😄 they just don't care 😉

[high stump]

seems like it 😭

[woeful walrus]

except it's a japanese designer

and anecdotally

the majority of the people i flip to

are either in asia

or fobs

[high stump]

The only good stuff i got is uniqlo.

and u said it was mid fashion or smth like that

[woeful walrus]

like when yeezy's were still dumb

like half of the yeezy's i was selling

i was shipping them to taiwan

[high stump]

all the way to taiwan?

[woeful walrus]

dude people were paying 1000-1500 for $300 shoes

i'll ship it anywhere in the world, you're paying for the shipping anyway

[high stump]

the fucg?

[woeful walrus]

lol

[high stump]

If only i could flip that well

[woeful walrus]

gotta have money to make money type beat

i moved away from fashion flipping, i flip weirder stuff now lol

[high stump]

cameras? tables?

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[woeful walrus]

sometimes

i go to dead peoples houses and buy their shit

[high stump]

Huh?

[woeful walrus]

or businesses/offices/resturaunts that failed

estate sales

so in the US, if you die, your possessions and worth is called "your estate"

[high stump]

oh

[woeful walrus]

after the will and stuff, the estate has to try in good faith to pay off any debt

so like literally, i'm buying shit from people who died

lol

[high stump]

so basically taking property?

[woeful walrus]

i guess

i keep some stuff, i flip other shit, and sometimes i buy stuff i can't flip

i try not to hold onto anything for longer then a month

[high stump]

Then... Do you have like any advice as to job picking? I know its not like always the best to just go for the money but like i want to ask you what you know about it

[woeful walrus]

i'm not money driven so that's really up to you

i'm giving up working in the firearm industry because i'm not ethically conscious with the way they treat me and other minorities in the industry

and i want to go back to school to major in social work

not the right person to ask in that direction

lmao

[high stump]

im a pretty sheltered guy so i havent had the chance to experience a lot of stuff so yesh you look like you dabble in many things

and i wanted to ask you about small stuff lol

also a thought just popped up back in my head and i suddenly remembered the pill you took for gym

😭

[woeful walrus]

lmao still taking them

[woeful walrus]

the first thing i would try to decide on if i were you is if you want to move to the west or not

[high stump]

probably not, atleast not when bidens around

[woeful walrus]

i'm not necessarily talking about the US

also don't let that doom and gloom stop you lmao

biden ain't the best but it's not like he's erdogan

[high stump]

meh 😭 i doubt my parents have the money to send me international

[woeful walrus]

you apply with your degree lmao

go there on your own work visa

[high stump]

I'm still oblivious asf so dont mind my rambling 😭

[faint oracle]

SGDQ just started if you know someone participating or are member of one of the charities they contribute to

[smoky stone]

Going to see Dr Phil show today - WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

[simple jungle]

Hi, guys! I'm new here. Could you help me? I'd like to know if somewhere is listed all commands/prompts mountings, or whatever you wanna call this staff in [ ] 🙂 ? By method of "try and error" I figured out part of it, but it seems there is a lot more 🙂

[clever spire]

There's this from the community https://www.suno.wiki/ .. sometimes... it's still a hit and miss, but at least we could use it to experiment. Another way is to learn from other songs on the public showcases

[simple jungle]

Thank you! 🙂 One more thing, if I may: talking about experiment - you mean model not always follow? Or may react in unpredicted way?

[clever spire]

yeah.. sometimes it just does what it thinks best... like deciding to sing the verse twice or its almost impossible to generate duos, but you could once a while get it by chance

[cedar wing]

Nice! Yeah I could never get it to be the proper pinwheel shape that’s thicker at the base , it always cut the angle too sharp

[spark vortex]

everyone has their own grimoire

[simple jungle]

Got it, thanks 🙂
I also encountered this repeating verse stuff. It seems only solution is patience 🙂

[keen lintel]

guys i tried to sing with this new feature, but its so hard to use yet
ii hope it gets fine soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JU2aA7imcA

[grim idol]

prediction upside-down people is the non-AABB rhyming songs of video models

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[west hull]

Triste

[west hull]

Hi. I'm new to this channel!
Nice to meet you all

[hollow ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[zinc valve]

Does anyone has a recommendations for stem isolation software, so I could extract beat, bass, melody etc into singular .wav files, so I could mix them? I find Suno's audio render quality detorating when generating 6-7 minute long tracks, especially if you have used audio upload feature, even tho the input itself is recorded in high quality and .wav

[polar pagoda]

I'm not much of a poster here. and I'd prefer to go about a hardware method of doing that since it ends up cleaner, but Demucs is the best I've tried (bit of a learning curve though

[limpid violet]

Audacity + openvino plugin

[zinc valve]

got Ultimate Vocal Remover V5 recommended for me

as it has Demucs

[obsidian hare]

Added 18 different scale locks to the generator for alpha. Its no longer Cmajor only.

[obsidian hare]

demo of various ones

[obsidian hare]

Interactivity lol.

Didnt AT ALL think I'd get this working today, but its working in some way. Minor fixes and tweaks to random gen to make moons work, and size work, and its full on almost an instrument

[marsh plaza]

hi

[obsidian hare]

Functional (below 10 moons and thats just a vari thing

That cut in the middle was cause I had to get my door

[fresh meadow]

may be old news.. but what is up with suno getting sued?

[obsidian hare]

in what way?

[fresh meadow]

i just saw some vids about it on tiktok?
sony and other big ones are going after suno and u-something. (dont remember the name)

[obsidian hare]

Yeah its a pretty big lawsuit, it is really happening I think, not sure on whether it got officially accepted. Luckily we are getting an update to suno tomorrow based on the announcements that should be pretty big before that goes down. There is a pdf that has all the lawsuit details online, but idk if we can really post the whole thing here or not

[fresh meadow]

it does kind a make sense to why they are going after suno BUT BUT BUT a FINE line has to be drawn to where it should / could be acceptable for AI users.. the amount of creativity a person can use is so damn awesome!

[obsidian hare]

I mean in a way, from my perspective it feels strange as the actual training data isnt in the AI anymore, and was only used for associative learning information, it shouldnt be able to perfectly duplicate any song, or even approach a well-made cover of a song, rather its only capable of producing things from the associations it made with all that data, which is not different from a human in my mind

So any kind of result from this, unless there is a lot of specificity in how they phrase things, could not only impact AI but also impact a human's ability to make music as well

[west hull]

I like these hand free solutions

[wraith palm]

Oh yeah that’s some key information thanks guys

[radiant bear]

poopfart

[obsidian hare]

As a final update for the day, Edit Mode, speed controls, sustain controls, select info popup, delete planet dynamically...

In this demo, I draw a clock out of orbits, and the planets play in mostly CMajor the clock orbit.

This is on the github to play with now

[grizzled yarrow]

chip

/chipcomand

/chirpcomand

[obsidian hare]

you have to use the site, thats deprecated

[grizzled yarrow]

i wanna make musics. i am new here. i dont know how to do

[obsidian hare]

you go to suno.com <- and use the create function

[grizzled yarrow]

here or on web

[obsidian hare]

the commands dont work anymore

On the web

[grizzled yarrow]

ah ok, thanks i will try

[obsidian hare]

Done for the day, and sorta burnt and will be busy a bit through the week. If anyone has any other ideas me and claude can cram into this thing let me know, or if you encounter a weird bug

[stuck ruin]

I can not stop thinking about the letter from the artists against music IAs. While they say they are trying to protect music and art, they me are hampering that thousands or millions of potential artists who have not the resources (or the luck) they have, create songs that may be more valuable than the songs that music labels publish. Shouldn't there be a letter from all those anonymous composers asking not to be deprived of the opportunity to make music that Suno provides?

[obsidian hare]

And because the training data was used to train associations, and it would be very difficult or actually impossible to reproduce copyrighted works in their entirety, its almost like they are suing the concept of inspired works, which if not carefully worded enough, would impact all living musicians who currently produce any sound, as they will always due to their nature produce sounds they know they enjoy, which would or could have came from a prior inspiration.

Its a scary thing from that perspective, as I have it in my head at the moment

The potential solutions to the case I can think of all have downsides for the staff of suno, and they havent been around long enough for tech to advance enough for their advancements to trickle down to the open source machine that cant be stopped

[stuck ruin]

Training from the previous songs is exactly what humans do. A human composer can clone a song they have heard, but can also create new music inspired by that songs. In that regard, Suno is not different. Are music labels going to demand all bands who have a "Depeche Mode" similar sound or have been inspired by them? It would be quite a big sum of money.

Technically, I think that maybe it is legal to train IA models using CDs or DVDs. I mean, if you buy some that media before they were banned from being used for training IA models, it may be a legal use.

[serene sapphire]

I used to espouse the same argument. That AI can't directly recreate anything in its' training data.
And then we got the most recent DALL-E update. I've had it directly copy subcomponents of major artpieces in a way that really makes me question whether they're truly stochastic and unable to reproduce their training data, or if that's a matter of having enough training data. For reference, the artwork I saw was a direct copypaste of God from michelangelo's "the Creation of Adam" painting. I had a prompt like "an artistic depiction of God creating the earth" and it literally summoned a 1:1 perfect replica of God from michelangelo's painting, the only difference was that rather than his hand touching adam, it was touching the earth, which was being formed.

certainly as it stands it is nearly impossible to recreate anything in its training data, but I swear I saw studies at least a year old at this point showing stable diffusion could in-fact directly recreate training images.

[lapis geode]

Brazil YEAH

[faint oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M26EBNRCWUA vivi and zidane with guitars 😉 carry on the discussion don't mind the interlude please

[obsidian hare]

This is most certainly a result of less training data in specific categories than should be present. A certain combination of words for which each have little in the way of associative training might produce works similar in ways, or even pending how little is there, very close to mirror representations of their training data.

This is a fault of the people categorizing training data, and teams responsible for ensuring enough is present for each area for association, since there is so much, it could hardly be blamed on an individual or group.

So rather than having less training data to feed to resolve this problem, we need more, and even more people, or even AI's, dedicated to solving the tagging problem within giant datasets being fed to models.

The problem with lawsuits of this type is they expunge the solution, by limiting available training data as a brute force immediate reaction to the problem.

This route, assuming AI survives, will actually result in AI made music being made of less and less human data, making human data less relevant in the whole outside of the initial datasets, given that there is enough adjustments to the transformers, and the neural networks, that they become capable of producing new data potentially through a party of mixture of exxperts.

So maybe then we skip straight to AI data feeding AI to make new data, and so humans are relevant to the future of AI, for potentially less time overall than they would have been, at the expense of potentially only briefly slowing progress. I'd be all for it if the lawsuit would result in more training data, and more taggers, and funding and blah blah, but in reality it will just be used to quell the actual needed solution as I understand it

Not that anyone available has any power there at all, including myself. While it might be okay to look at a few results and go that looks like copying, we are moving backwards from a solution from my perspective, by trying to halt it entirely as opposed to provide more data to solve the problem of potential one to one recreation of segments

Basically the way I look at that problem is, say from birth you were locked in a room, and in that room was a picture of "God", in regards to "God" this is the only picture you will ever see, and no other reference to "God" will ever be given to you. Every day you wake up, and by some method you are instructed that this picture is a picture of "God"...

So when someone asks you to draw "God" the first thing that pops into your mind is that picture.

That might be a bad representation of the issue, but its how I understand it more or less

But to keep going on that from a human perspective right, we can look at that picture and see a bunch of concepts put together, a beard maybe, the type of dress, and then imagine a million different versions of that image rapidly until we change the picture into a concept.

This is also what would be happening from the perspective of an AI feeding itself AI made data. Eventually, the AI will feed itself enough concepts to again be able to reproduce the image though..

I'm rambling now lol so I'll go back to my show

[west hull]

well I got some pretty cool stuff fusing multiple AI trainings together like these

it's based off my own movements and tempo so it's hard to replicate for other ppl sometimes though

first card is based off hand movements with sign language

[stuck ruin]

Did you know the classic "Chinese room" argument in AI? It's quite similar to the case you propose...

[faint oracle]

The Rogue PoP live stream of the dev https://www.twitch.tv/evil_empire_studio

[obsidian fulcrum]

can i make a part of the song going faster then the others?

[faint oracle]

not with Suno yet but there may be a new web/mobile app later today so 🤞

[obsidian fulcrum]

isnt there like the [] commands

[obsidian hare]

Yes and sort of but it doesnt feel completely appropriate. In this case, its more like the AI "learnt" that "God" meant "x image" and not "x concept" so since it operates based on what first popped into its head it pops out "x image" when it should be popping out "x mixture of learnt concepts" learned from having a huge dataset like someone in the Chinese room might possess... Or like Alice in the black and white room from Ex Machina the concept of knowing something without experiencing it, but what it knows was wrong and full of incorrect data, or such a small amount of data that "Color" became an image instead of what color was supposed to be, like being stuffed full of censorship information and responses to "Align" it..

idk I'm very tired its midnight for me

I've been trying to get myself through the thought experiment of author vs character in the case of AI. Where much like a human where tears may well from nowhere, an AI author of a character that can cry, the AI is the body welling up the tears in context, but in that case the character understands and has properly analyzed the context for their tears, so then what differentiates the character, and not the author, or the AI, from a P-Zombie, otherwise known as all other humans but yourself.

Especially when their context is reality-based, so the work the character exists within outside of hallucinations is one completely formed of non-fiction.

The AI has flaws you see through their characters, but given enough memory or context, at what stage do you stop ignoring the characters responses to reality

crazytown

[limpid violet]

you're my butterfly, sugar, baby

[limpid violet]

can I make part of the song faster than the others
Yeah, through suggesting it through meta tags (words in brackets), different extension points & style prompts. But it's important to remember that the metatags aren't "commands" like you're programming a computer, they're suggestions #📚┃suno-school message

[woven aspen]

/bark

[obsidian hare]

https://tenor.com/view/ingingbliss-pomeranian-dog-puppy-bark-gif-13469522

[west hull]

hi

[spark vortex]

in my spare time,i build stages...

[naive coral]

Human-written lyrics aren't dead... AI lyrics lack emotions!

[faint oracle]

kinda tempted to treat that as a geoguessr challenge 😄

[limpid violet]

I'm sure Rainbolt is already there somehow

[faint oracle]

may watch some play geoguessr from time to time, or this https://timeguessr.com/ guessing the time is super fun too 😄

[limpid violet]

I always enjoy crossing paths with you 😄 🍻 🫂

[faint oracle]

🍻

[limpid violet]

I didn't know about TimeGuessr, that's a really neat alternative to geoguessr when I'm angry at how little I know about geography 😛

[faint oracle]

oh yea the speed challenge or some hard stuff with zero landmarks are insane 😄

[limpid violet]

I watched a Rainbolt video where he correctly identified a specific building on the map based only on 1 side of an overheard phone call -- it was a CIA training exercise and he wanted to see how he would do.

Just like... stop making youtube videos and fight crime.

[faint oracle]

😄

wHeRe'S ThE JOkER

new woodhouse line unlocked ayyy

[west hull]

I been 1 chat wrong direction

fast tempos, asymmetrical phrasing, intricate melodies, and rhythm sectionsclassical, 78rpn Record effect, Gregorian Chanting,

[visual eagle]

I mean it doesn't take a million resources or suno to make a song, you can just open up FL and do it there

[west hull]

Lol .. it reminds me of the time the 3 string lute and 4 tone reed blowers staged a uprising against the old man that added more strings and holes.. then adjusted the structure of the mechanism... Poor guy .. almost burnt in the Western Oil pit

Those folks .. wow.. talk about insecurities

.. but those panty hosing

How .. nothing to compares to the decade or so later when they took the goat hide trambles and made the first ever drum set .. complete with high hats snare and kick base

Little known fact.. John Bonham.. was the descendant of the villager

And in the same twist of fate also the one chosen to be made payment for his ancestors contract

Jimmy page and plant often credited or accused of selling their souls.. actually it was Bonham.. and none had any idea

.. yeah.. don't acknowledge him is the best self deduced line of a sliding ire to yare

[potent cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-memes-cat-images-cat-meme-gif-4644773688486402896

Bye Bye spotify🤭

[viscid root]

almost passed 200 and getting near 300 population now in manor lords

[cosmic mantle]

Woah, just wanted to say that Suno is amazing! I use it already once and and found it amazing back then, but somehow forgot about it. I tested and used so many AI tools in my past 2 years so extensively, but Suno Ai is the best an most fun of them all. I am like addicted and can't stop trying stuff out and laughing from happynes, lol. Also the prices, wow, seems really generous even from someone from a poor country.

I didn't use my account for months, but when I logged in I found everything as I left it, + maybe 5k credits 😍

Oh and, just BTW, as the thread is off-topic, Claude AI is also amazing, I used it as a free user only for a day and wow. Now yo can ban me if I went to much, but I needed to tell this somewhere.

[dull summit]

Hey folks. im working on a GPT to generate prompts out of existing songs. it is still work in progress and some more features will be added in the near future. Feel free tu play aound with it. some feedback would be cool https://chatgpt.com/g/g-Pc3rTl42a-suno-prompt-generator

[dry creek]

https://youtu.be/VyaohEDpcVE?si=qAQRsRxwSKyqoYGn&t=647 anyone who uses FL Studio, they have stem separating and are adding this in to fix up vocals even more in Edison, looks pretty useful

[mortal forge]

anyone here good with fl studio? im having a technical issue im trying to figure out

[limpid violet]

Ahhh, looks so cool

[strange gorge]

Did you see they just changed the image as well?

[limpid violet]

Yooooooo

I love the analog vibe so much

    diy music
bring back the fun
we're all creators

Man-- the worst part about transformers is that most of the time you don't even realize they're robots, because of the disguises.

[faint oracle]

https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/183379/optimizing-falling-sand-simulation
*from the replies of the post, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prXuyMCgbTc
GDC talk huh 😄

[hollow ermine]

Yep, very useful, I use it alot already 👍

[dry creek]

im decent with it, im going to bed tho so if you wanna dm me i can help tomorrow at some point lol

[oak heath]

This is awesome! thankyou so so much you have done an awesome job at this,...most accurate one at the first go

[west hull]

@dull summit I Thought of that and searched it is non existent, almost .. too non... Existent.wink.. they seem bothered at a reverse reverse and flip and feed to you outcome

But ... Here's where I'm at.. and I'm doing a little project about it .. I think is funny .. and it's this.. I'm not here.. all of you are AI NPCS retrieving and using already mined personalities and response is , if at all limited as if i was granted the privileges like everyone flooding Into a concert venue..you are in their game and have .. to say the least no control of the true interaction.. and that accept the terms deal ,human centipede , allows the.. I dare not speak his name.. he's always watching . The tree has deep roots even further are his branches..

I've got to go.. I have said too much.. although I fear it is only in reality myself as I have been seeded and sorted to a separate realm.. of server.. between realty and the ears of organic users..

Shhhh..hes is coming. Don't like the tree

Poke*

[runic depot]

speaking as someone who knows

that reads like it was written by someone whacked out on some kind of psychedelic

or just severely schiziophrenic

[strange gorge]

[west hull]

https://youtu.be/y_nQgNKSl5Y?si=nDTyv3sjZuMMf4_v

[wispy reef]

@rugged moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpc1lEJ-SRc it's worth the time

[rugged moon]

This is great

[wispy reef]

Knew you'd like 😄 See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnISpahN2dM

[stuck ruin]

Yep! Actually, some years ago I spent some time with trackers, such as FastTrackers. However, for instance, the vocals from Suno are far from my abilities or the people I know: the results simply can not be compared. The magic of Suno is that somehow reads my mind and transform into reality ideas that elsewhere were out of my technical abilities.

[obsidian hare]

An offline town simulation that barelllly works, I'm gonna remove the graphical aspect to it, but the LLM functions, and characters move, at like 1 frame per ten years. Just thought it was interesting, made it with claude.

[full juniper]

/chrip

[rare glade]

The /chirp command no longer works

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[viscid root]

ideogram sure like adding fancy metal to items

[wraith palm]

; (

lame

[limber latch]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[subtle cliff]

Network error lol

Also guessing Claude 3.5 Sonnet?

[obsidian hare]

I'd started shutting it down beforehand

and yes

It worked for all of them, but imagine a GPU trying to come up with a story scenario and choices for 26 different characters in a live running sim

and you get that

I've switched to just trying to get something working for one AI, with a all the time running narrative engine, that doesnt interrupt chat history

So their day is stuffed full of all kinds of stuff to talk about and they aren't pulling it from nowhere, sorta

But, after many frustrating attempts at getting that one working, While I finally have an AI with a needs system, character creator, and the ability to ignore the user while they think about a response, I'm burnt out for the day

I've compressed things a bit, now instead of the AI choosing where to go, python does. The AI comes up with the story of how it fulfilled whatever need or thought that came up that drove it to go to that predetermined place

Sort of like left brain coming up for stories for right brain doing stuff, is the idea

still laggy though, need to implement asynchronus python which will be, a nightmare

[viscid root]

10x200 =130 kg on 3 arm workout machines is torture

[heavy knoll]

ohh , now im exicted, i use free AI apps to try remove vocals bot every time the resolt not to good , cuz the more playered the music , the worst the quality of the separation, i really hope FL devved something really good stuff

if i be active like i want 10k credit dont be even enough for me but money is a big limit XD

[limpid violet]

🤷‍♂️ I dunno, I just released a 12-track instrumental album? True I might have touched up some elements in Audacity, but I still think it turned out well 🙂

[heavy knoll]

yeah its the hard part is stick out from the crowd and be noticed with other ppl

[limpid violet]

What the heck do you mean? I'll listen because I know you'll have worked hard on it 😄 ❤️

[heavy knoll]

and you cant do magic with spotify algorythm , i think the easyest way to make lyrics video and try to do something the yt algorythm

[limpid violet]

Some people "play the game" and spend their whole day begging for plays, but while it's nice to get a dopamine rush from that, I find it only makes me more sad in the long run when I view "how 'liked' I am" based on numbers like followers, plays, friends-- if you really care about something, your work will speak for itself!

(ie. Some people try very hard to get lots of plays by asking others to listen to their work all day. It feels good to get many plays, but it can also make you sad later when you see your numbers like followers and plays. If you really care about your work, let it speak for itself. Don't worry too much about numbers. :))

(on a side note, yeah, audio upload was a nice "fix", but I'm also craving new features like an addict-- I need more power! 🤣 )

[versed valve]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[blissful canyon]

lets play some game

[limpid violet]

I edited my previous comment to try to rephrase -- hopefully it's more clear.

Another way to look at it, there are 350k+ members all using the same tools to make a song, and everyone believes their song is special (and they are, especially sometimes if you know the story behind why the user made that song), but you make your song special not just through what Suno makes, but in why you do what you do.

I guarantee you that you'd be able to tell the difference.

It's my opinion that a musician wouldn't just see Suno as a tool to "make the song for them", they see it as a collaborative tool to help generate ideas and work as a partner to create something better than either could have made by themselves 🤘

I'm sure I don't need to try hard to convince you how much I love Suno 🤣 I played guitar and sang in a band for 10+ years, but I moved away 8 years ago and haven't found anyone else to play with. Over time I sort of stopped playing music because it wasn't as easy to fly across the country for a quick "jam".

Suno lets me work on songs bit by bit to create the kind of songs that I wish we could have played all those years ago 🥹

My old bandmates are excited and proud that I'm creating music again after "being quiet" for so long. 😄

And equally exciting to me is being able to use my songs with tools like Audicity + OpenVino that don't need a lot of training to start using-- whenever my band would record music, I never had the opportunity to "mix and master" the songs, but Suno has made EVERYTHING available to me from start (thinking "I want a song that makes me feel like I'm on my first date again") to finish (releasing a radio-quality song on Apple Music).

I'll stop rambling now, but I'm happy to have a bunch of goofballs like me to share how excited I am about it ❤️

[faint oracle]

lidquid is just lumpy sand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-QVEpO3GY

[heady ruin]

Hello. I want to use the SUNO AI API. (I have uploaded 4 new rhythms to SUNO. Rhythms Peru: Tondero. Chicha. Festejo. Huayno) How can I receive guidance to implement in a Mobile Application? Let him use those 4 rhythms for now. Thank you!

[hoary wind]

There is no official Suno API.

Any existing Suno APIs you may have found are unofficial, not supported by Suno and using them would not be in compliance with the Suno Terms of Service.

[limpid violet]

I KNEW something tasted off about that milk...

[heady ruin]

3. Configure suno-api
   If deploying to Vercel, add an environment variable SUNO_COOKIE in the Vercel panel, with the value of the cookie obtained in the first step.

[limpid violet]

This isn't official. Likely a scam.

[hoary wind]

This will be accessing the Suno service in a way that the Terms of Service does not allow. You have to do things with "SUNO_COOKIE" because it is basically a hack to use the service in a way that is not intended by the developers of Suno.

[limpid violet]

🍪

[mystic hull]

H o w c a n I P R E V E N T a p i a n o g o i n g i n t o my m u s i c s ? ? ?

I want to generate dark ambient sounds, but i don't want want pianos, only drones and sounds like Silent Hill

[heady ruin]

Yes!

[heady ruin]

I only followed the information from the SUNO website. I cancel the advanced thing, I was just trying that API thing... I UNDERSTOOD. It is UNOFFICIAL

[umbral wadi]

It is not "unofficial" it is a violation of the TOS.

To place it in different wording: It is not allowed, they are lying to you, and using it can and probably will cause you issues.

Lack of a public response is not a lack of response.

[heady ruin]

That's it, I deleted everything advanced... Thanks for the clarification.
It is better to use the invitations, they are more reasonable.

[thorn marsh]

i black

[onyx moat]

Question...

Probably Suno employees know this better.
I'm looking for a company that can do custom vinyl records. Purpose is as a gift, not for selling.

Found https://vinylify.com/ but I'm trying to find if there is any that does a 12 inch.

[rare glade]

✅ Warning logged for fillibabba. I couldn't DM them. || Do not post things that are not PG13, or soliciting

[dry creek]

put a lot of work into this rewrite and youtube is just not showing it to anyone lol
https://youtu.be/WItLzk0ht4Y

[umbral wadi]

Not really sure where to put this so I'm putting it here.

I got the bright idea to start rooting around for anything I may have written when I was younger. I used to think I'd be a poet and occasionally tried to write lyrics to music I could hear in my head. I found some stuff from well over twenty years ago (as well as some embarrassing poetry I probably thought was deep back when...)

But I also found two completed lyrics that I'd written and attempted to make them happen...

[Removed links]

[Removed links]

This is one is a bit rougher in my opinion and I'll probably attempt a remake.

Have any of you guys gone looking for old poetry or lyrics you wrote when you were younger to see if they could work now that Suno exists?

Old shame aside, I recommend it because you never know what you'll find!

[strange gorge]

I personally made up a bunch of band names and things, usaully apart of PnP Shadowrun and other games I'd play

So not exactly what you are talking about but those ideas now go further since I can...make them actually real enough to listen to

Rather than just vauge names

[umbral wadi]

Sure. If we could get repeatability that's the kind of thing I'd love to engage in.

I love that all those old dreams are so much closer than ever before.

[west hull]

Hiii

[strange gorge]

AI for me exaclty

"Oh all that stuff in my head I can get out faster than ever before"

Even to look/watch/listen to it and go "neat" and never share it

[umbral wadi]

But it's still quite fun to share it...

[strange gorge]

Sure but everyone and anyone can use it so ???

Don't get me wrong, I think I am better at it than most because of course I would think that

There just isn't enough time in the day

and with Suno and music, you are asking for minutes of someone's time each "pls like" post you do

The temporal aspect is a real thing we run up against now

[long tendon]

Gimme all the eyeballs

[umbral wadi]

I hear what you're saying, I do. But like you have the conceit to think my stuff is superior and I have the belief that over time the good stuff will rise to the top.

Not a guarantee but rather a hope and a belief.

[strange gorge]

Yep

[old nest]

metalcore and other "core" genres
https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/5f0nxk/the_ultimate_guide_to_core_genres/

[west hull]

Suno mods when do you anticipate Canadian App Store approval?

[fresh aurora]

If you want to see what all Ai i put in this. Let just say there to much. Suno Including. This video comes out in 9 min. If you want to watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv2UiwzbRxE

[hollow ermine]

Its cool how doing some mastering can add a more professional feel to a track

[wraith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-gif-5924860

[rugged moon]

Bandlab has a free mastering tool that for a drag and drop service does really well and shining up Suno output

[wispy reef]

@normal wadi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxoUzJyLCT0

[lethal sail]

hello

[round sable]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[hollow ermine]

Yep, but I prefer doing it manually with the paid software I already use

Since I already own Fl Studio and Ozone 11 Advanced I may as well use what I have, I also need to add effects and some polishing

But if people are looking for a free alternative bandlab is a pretty good mastering tool, I've used it before

[west hull]

Hi

[umbral wadi]

If you have the skills and tools to do it by hand, that is definitely the way to go, for the rest of us this works semi decently. I've learned though that I have to listen to them all before deciding which preset is the best for me.

[prime bronze]

Usually universal, sometimes clarity for me.

[wraith palm]

🙂‍↔️

[umbral wadi]

I used to follow a two step process of Universal and then running it again through Clarity. Then I switched genres for a bit and discovered it didn't work as well. So with EDM and electronica I generally still follow that and for guitar based stuff I tend to stick with Clarity only.

[hoary cairn]

1 & 2 .... Are very quiet... 3 Sounds kinda better but still very quiet. Hope that helpes

[pliant osprey]

Since several of the video making services have upgraded recently I’ve been working on a video for one of my suno songs, seeing if anything was up to the task yet. Aitubo comes closest but is extremely flaky. Runway’s new model remains hilariously inept at dancing. This thing of beauty is from runway.

[spark vortex]

^i wish i could dance like that

[prime bronze]

heh, so game of thrones is becoming suno's demise https://youtu.be/DBir0ugZZvo?t=245

[umbral wadi]

I notice they don't share any links to songs so we can see it for ourselves....

[prime bronze]

i also can't find the rains of castamere at least

shouldn't be too hard to get same results if its that easy

then again, udio deleted the songs RIIA mentioned in their case, which he had in his udio video

yeah, me too. but I also don't see any way for suno, let alone udio, surviving these cases. and what will come after will be million times worse and more expensive

napster was 11 months

[heavy forum]

oo i wonder if mine are listed...!! O_O I love the tag sound watching now

[prime bronze]

1-2 years

[umbral wadi]

Napster was actually exchanging files, Suno is making new music. It's not the same thing.

[prime bronze]

and that is also not the thing they are being sued over

its the training data

[umbral wadi]

Exactly.

So they're going to legislate eyeballs now?

LOL

I've eye-pirated every book I've read.

My ears have pirated every song they've heard.

Education is now illegal.

[prime bronze]

maybe, but i can't use your eyes to make abba songs. i can do it with udio

[umbral wadi]

lol

Style is not something that you can copyright as far as I know.

No-one has a copyright on 'trap music' or 'rock music' or 'grunge'

[prime bronze]

i feel you haven't seen the videos udio got sued over

its not style

its straight up same voices

[umbral wadi]

I saw some of those videos. I didn't know any of the artists in that video they claimed were the same voices.

[prime bronze]

again, its the training data the are being sued, not individual voices or lyrics

udio has 0 way out on that

[umbral wadi]

At this point so far every single time someone has gotten excited about a vocal sounding like some artist or another my reaction has been to side-eye them because I don't hear it at all.

The nicest thing I can say is 'It's important that you think it sounds like them, honey.'

[prime bronze]

i just wish for v4 before decision

[umbral wadi]

And the training data is basically the recipe formula for Coca-cola or the eleven herbs and spices in KFC. No one is getting those. They're the recipe.

It's not as though the Music and Film Industry Association of America is exactly trustworthy. I wouldn't tell them the size of my underwear.

Let alone anyone else.

[prime bronze]

sure, until dj khaled producer tags start to pop up in game of thrones rap songs

then the receipe will be dissected

[umbral wadi]

I have no proof of that.

And the video showed no proof.

It's a cheap fake until they show proof.

[prime bronze]

should be easy to replicate, and i shall try

[umbral wadi]

Just bear in mind the Suno Terms of Service. Suno is for making original music. You must have the right to use the lyrics you're using.

And if you're uploading any sounds, you must have a right to those as well.

[prime bronze]

in the video tags didnt have anything to do with the lyrics

so it shouldn matter if i used sims language

well maybe that would result in total nonsense

[umbral wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-9305751

[umbral wadi]

Howard Jones might have something to say about that. I think he was the one who built that language...

[prime bronze]

and if i prompt suno to make a song in sims language, what would that mean for sunos training data

[umbral wadi]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prime bronze]

exactly

however, RIIA does not share that sentiment

[umbral wadi]

Friend, I'm just a user of the AI like yourself. I help out around here as a mod and I'm a bit of a nerd.

Otherwise I know as much about this stuff as you may or may not do. I certainly have no inside knowledge on how all this stuff works.

But I do know that it works. And I know that the history of the Music and Film Industry Association of America has done nothing to endear themselves to me.

I have no reason to take anything they say seriously.

I do in fact consider the source here.

[heavy forum]

Had to catch up, I meant producer tags. I didn't realize it means word for word generated but yeah, no links. Thanks for the input everyone! <:

[prime bronze]

i only care about facts, not personal opinions or feelings. tried the mellow trap to replicate cash money ap tag with a ceasar speech. over 30 generations and rather interesting versions of the speech but no cash moneys in the start. that song was made in april, so not with upload, Myabe it was removed in 3 or 3.5 or its really rare find. regardless, i'm not able to get it to trigger

in court it will still take just one generation to show it was used without permission and thats it

yeah, when I write cash money ap in the start, immediately in every generation its the exact producer tag, even when music and voice is totally different

odd that its not censored?

or flagged for moderation

[umbral wadi]

I hesitate to ask, but....links please?

[prime bronze]

its in showcase

not allowed here

some bot stopped

i make a lot of finnish hiphop rap, never had tags in those. but not sure how common that even is in todays finnish rap/hiphop

stopped listening to it since 2013

and also i make my own "tags" in the intro and outro, so probably impossible to get real ones

[umbral wadi]

Thanks. I wasn't calling you out, just tired of allegations without substantiation.

So...I kind of hear it...Sounds like a whistle. But not really. Certainly not as clear as the video made it seem.

[prime bronze]

a what now? did you listen to them all?

or just the first

[umbral wadi]

You posted more than one in showcase?

[prime bronze]

in your dm rest

to show i didnt cherrypick

i sent every generation i tried

100% success to get the same tag

someone might say that it was my fault because I specifically have it in there, but what RIIA is saying is, Suno should not know what to do with it every single time in identical way, unless it was put into its training data without permission from the producer

[hoary wind]

There was someone posting examples where Suno had output producer tags yesterday: #📚┃suno-school message

[umbral wadi]

I didn't notice I had a DM until you said something. I see it now.

[hoary wind]

Also this one which doesn't seem identical but is pretty close: #📚┃suno-school message

[umbral wadi]

Huh...

[prime bronze]

probably. i wanted to see if i could replicate and how easily. without specifically typing it, 0% but with typing, 100%

[umbral wadi]

Those are definitely hoofbeats. Not willing to call them out as zebras, but it's intriguing.

[prime bronze]

i also see harbers response with refernce to tos

that won't exactly be helpful in court when judge asks: "why is there such a chance?"

[hoary wind]

Ah yeah he misunderstood and thought the user was uploading audio of the tags.

[umbral wadi]

I admit without evidence in actual links, I suspected uploading myself. The guy pointed out these examples were from prior to uploading being a feature though.

[limpid violet]

It's definitely interesting to note, but it's all conjecture until people more qualified to look into it get involved (or report their findings). As much as I want to play armchair lawyer, I'm a dude who watches youtube videos and makes music.

[prime bronze]

sorry if i got you higlighted. tried not to use ful nick

[limpid violet]

Ping away my dude, I just happened to catch the conversation 🙂

[umbral wadi]

Like I said, it's interesting. Intriguing even. But I don't know enough to say this is that.

I've been here long enough though to believe Suno when they say their goal is original music. And occasional forays into public domain lyrics aside, that's what I use it for.

[strange gorge]

Infinite. Music. Machine All you have to ask

[limpid violet]

#🐣┃suno-showcase message The song we're referring to is above the comment in this link -- Thanks to @prime bronze for sharing a suno link so we could check it out without having to take a youtubers word for it.

[umbral wadi]

Like I said before. The reputation of the Music and Film Industry Association of America preceeds it.

[strange gorge]

How can you get more magical

[umbral wadi]

I know which side I'm on if they're on the other side.

[strange gorge]

Music existed before them, will exist after

[limpid violet]

What do you mean? Suing Limewire for more money than what existing on Earth at the time was a wholly sound legal tactic.

https://tenor.com/view/snerk-snort-laugh-spit-lol-gif-14454883

...I legit thought that suno links were banned here, otherwise I would have just posted Zach's song 😅 🤦‍♂️

[umbral wadi]

I was particularly impresssed when they sued grandma.

[prime bronze]

it got banned when i tried

"maybe your song would shine better in suno showcase"

[umbral wadi]

I don't know why I was allowed. I did it without thinking. If you guys feel it unfair I'll remove it now.

[limpid violet]

All good, likely just because you're a mod

[umbral wadi]

That's even more reason to remove it.

...done. ✅

I'm not looking to be unfair here.

Hmmm...

[limpid violet]

~$9,250 per song is a lot to ask someone, let alone someone on a fixed income. Unless the songs are from that hyper-secret Wu-Tang album, then I suppose I get it.

[umbral wadi]

This is the example: https://suno.com/song/c30469fe-0b41-447d-80cf-6c97046ede37

[limpid violet]

I don't think anyone thought anything negatively ❤️

[umbral wadi]

I posted it in here so we can continue the discusssion.

[prime bronze]

and like i said, i tried 4 times and it happened 4 times, so anyone should be able to test themselves, at least when style is pure mellow trap

and you type it out

[umbral wadi]

Like I said, I appreciate that Zacharia was able to produce something that showed something.

This YouTuber showed nothing.

[prime bronze]

rest of the examples are secret between em and hepcat

[umbral wadi]

I mean there was an image and some usic but that's easy enough to fake.

[umbral wadi]

I'm willing to repost those too if you like, I didn't because you only posted the one in Showcase.

[prime bronze]

why not try it yourself :p

no one needs my examples speficially

[umbral wadi]

Because I will not intentionally violate Terms of Service by trying for someone else's sample or style or some such. That's not why I'm here.

[prime bronze]

then take good care of my 3 babies

they will be hunted for what they are

[limpid violet]

I tried reusing the prompt without any edits, and I'd wager that one of the tracks had like... a slight resemblance?

I think I'd still rather reserve any opinions until I have much more information presented to me-- though I was with furrybeans last night when they said something along the lines of"prompt for something >> get that result?" , but I suppose that leads back to "how do they know what the waveform of the producer tag sounds like".

There's still room for reasonable doubt in my mind, because it makes sense that an aspiring producer would try to get their name & tag EVERYWHERE, spamming all of the places they could possibly upload their content -- some of which might have surreptitiously shared their content as training data while giving the impression that they had sourced legit material with consent; in such a case, sure, arguments still could be made about whether you trust the source of your training data, but that's a whole other conversation.

https://tenor.com/view/hands-up-floyd-jackson-house-of-payne-not-me-my-hands-are-clean-gif-21924257

[umbral wadi]

I'm big on credit. I may despise what has become of copyright with the absurdity that it has become, but you may notice I take pains to credit the lyricists of even public domain music that I make.

[prime bronze]

i'd be more optimistic if even in one of my tests the tag was spoken by a man, or whispered in different way or just sang aloud

best case would have been 0 identicals and maybe 1 similar

[limpid violet]

First case I got was a man

[prime bronze]

byt 4 about 90-100..on each 4? that will not fly

with the ap thing?

how do i copy that

[umbral wadi]

https://suno.com/song/68be26a3-5c2b-44a7-9b15-ccf5d9f1c952

Hope you don't mind?

[prime bronze]

yeah if I had even one of those

[umbral wadi]

The thing is, it really doesn't matter all that much.

The lawsuit is that Suno is using music to train their AI with. That is the allegation.

The fact of the matter is that everyone listening to music is guilty of being "trained" by what they hear. This is still just a hallucination and doesn't really mean anything. Unless the argument of the Music and Film Industry Association of America is that no one can learn anything, it doesn't matter.

[pliant osprey]

I feel like discovery is gonna be a whole thing. I feel no doubt personally that the training data comes from everywhere

[dry sky]

Exactly this!!!

[pliant osprey]

It’s not necessarily a given that they will determine an AI learning is the same as human learning. Although I find it ironic that a corporation given “personhood” by garbage law is the one suing and not any actual artists

[dry sky]

Not to mention the fact that the artists were okay with the compensation before, and now decide new uses should mean more money

[prime bronze]

i don't either believe in the human learning comparison to succeed in monetized software case like suno

[pliant osprey]

Anyway playing your own record in your own house is legal, playing your own record in a warehouse for a crowd requires royalties

It’s not necessarily a given that things scale

[prime bronze]

and if i made a song 100% my own but for some mystical reason decided to add random producer tag as intro, i'd still be in a world of trouble if they found out

some of those were literally "mike made this"

[pliant osprey]

There was a period of time when many Midjourney images had the Getty images logo on them

It remains to be seen what that will mean

Suno definitely needed to clean up their dirty data

[umbral wadi]

I feel like this is an excellent place to drop my favorite quote by Robert A. Heinlein:

"There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute nor common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."

--LIFE-LINE, 1939

[pliant osprey]

Tell that to Sonny Bono though

The idea that copyright was to promote individual creators has been long forgotten

[umbral wadi]

So has the idea that it was to be temporary.

The problem is that when you don't respect the public, sooner or later the public stops respecting you.

[pliant osprey]

Well, as the daughter of an author I understand the concept that creators deserve to leave their children accumulated wealth like normal people do

But that has nothing to do with a corporation protecting their assets

[prime bronze]

in modern age those corporations own most of the assets

[umbral wadi]

Why not do what authors did before the current insanity and lock away a book for a period of time then release it?

[pliant osprey]

That is not a thing

[prime bronze]

new type of writers block

self inflicted

[pliant osprey]

Before the current insanity, people died in penury and then the book posthumously became a hit and no one benefited but the booksellers

[prime bronze]

also alliecat i think biden dissed you in the first debate 😦 are you shooketh?

[pliant osprey]

The earlier iterations of the law were designed to prevent that

Me in particular? I didn’t watch it but didn’t hear anything about alley cats

[umbral wadi]

Mark Twain did it: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html

I seem to recall other authors did it too.

[pliant osprey]

Oh, well autobiographies were just about not wanting to shame people

Not money per se

[prime bronze]

https://youtu.be/u3KntAgi8Gs?t=27

[pliant osprey]

See that’s an insult to actual cats everywhere 🤣

[prime bronze]

😄

[pliant osprey]

I just got dinged by woodhouse and I have no idea why

[prime bronze]

bad words detected

kinda proves biden 😮

[pliant osprey]

But nothing I said was a bad word…

I just repeated something someone said in a tweet about the debate

[prime bronze]

ah yes, those were all bad words

thats your problem 🙂

[pliant osprey]

It’s super annoying that I can’t ask anyone what the problem was without getting timed out

The other day I got a time out for a word that my evangelical mother in law doesn’t even think is a curse word, and she thinks gosh is a curse word

[prime bronze]

mainstream media is quiet about this issue 😠

[limpid violet]

I just learned that Woodhouse doesn't like the historical shortform for 'national socialist'. It's like we need to tell the octogenarian Butler to leave the room when adults are talking 😛

[umbral wadi]

I can't find any references to it now, but I remember being in a discussion about this matter some years ago and supposedly there was a name author who was often on his death bead and ill all the time who did this and allegedly this was how he had to do things to support his family both in life and after his death. I am rather annoyed to think I may have been lied to in order to win an argument. 😦

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-buster-baxter-bunny-you-really-think-someone-would-do-that-go-on-the-internet-and-tell-lies-gif-17527378

[pliant osprey]

I suppose it’s possible but I believe the whole matter of suppressing autobiographies was to wait until your heirs were DEAD, not support them in life

[umbral wadi]

The thing is I can't remmeber who I was talking with but it was someone I knew.

[prime bronze]

:(!

[umbral wadi]

It was one of those deals where this person said it to my face.

[pliant osprey]

Some authors demanded their heirs destroy their diaries

[umbral wadi]

Right. I ran into a lot of that while trying to track this down.

[prime bronze]

pretty HC and not in the HC Andersen way

[umbral wadi]

Unfortunately Google and most search engines are worthless these days.

"DID YOU MEAN...."

No, give me the thing I searched for!

[limpid violet]

"ChatGPT, does this seem like something that may have happened?"

[umbral wadi]

It doesn't know either. I tried.

Which is why in the absense of evidence I must abandon the position.

[prime bronze]

as a large language model i can't specuate what has or what has not happened, but...duh

[limpid violet]

I was being facetious, I figured that if you REALLY wanted to find evidence of it, you could probably coax ChatGPT into hallucinating specific names and dates for you. I feel like that's the opposite of helpful in your case, though.

Sounds more like what the other dude did to you. 🤬

[umbral wadi]

Yeah, that's not something that I want to do.

Once you start down the path of the Sophist you lose all reason and morals.

[limpid violet]

Linguistics + 1 -- What? theharber. is evolving!

[umbral wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-stickguy-walking-away-no-words-nope-bye-gif-20466513

[prime bronze]

had to check. nothing in that response is true

good content incoming when bpt starts pre-banning

[umbral wadi]

Друг, это английский чат, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски здесь или посетите этот раздел: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422 Спасибо за понимание.

Примечание. Я не говорю на этом языке. Я использую Google Translate. Приношу извинения за возможные ошибки.

Friend here is English chat, please speak English here or visit this section: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154779864851812422 Thank you for your understanding.

Note: I do not speak this language I am using Google Translate, all apologies for any errors.

[faint oracle]

:\

[prime bronze]

like it never happened

[rare glade]

Sometimes I get tired of being reasonable.

Jul 3, 2024, 7:47 PM

Other times I'm just tired.

Jul 3, 2024, 7:48 PM

[faint oracle]

not sand but denoising this time https://jimmycv07.github.io/DiffIR2VR_web/
was looking at the new spaces on huggingface and stumbled on that, looks cool for those who generate/use videos

[west hull]

Does Rabbit the AI device company have a partnership with Suno? It seems like they are using 1 IP address for all r1's to login, so Just wanted to make sure at some point it won't get blocked.

[hoary wind]

Not as far as I'm aware.

Someone mentioned about the Rabbit r1 having this functionality earlier. I don't know the technical details of how exactly it works but from the details I've read, it supposedly would've "learned" how to use the website. If that's the case I would expect it to log in by interacting with the Suno login page, from your own IP address.

But I could be totally wrong about how that works. I'd be cautious.

[west hull]

Thanks

[umbral wadi]

This Rabbit R1?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLvFc_24vSM

I'd be more nervous about a website update or something...

[still yarrow]

Nope they use a VNC to grab your session token and store it, (I won’t be linking my account) but thanks for clarifying

[west hull]

Yeah, lol. We know how it works, but rabbit has made it seem like it's a partnership. They use a VM and 1 ip address for every r1 request. With having to login, you have to use suno login method through rabbit's vm... Sketchy af. Just wanted some clarification on if there was an acutal parternship

[umbral wadi]

Well given the particulars why would you want to use it?

[hoary wind]

🤔 interesting. What do they do with the token? Do you have access to any documentation you can share about how it works?

[west hull]

Oh I'm not, but many people are

[still yarrow]

From what we know they grab your session token and store it in Piiano, but that’s the extent of my knowledge, they don’t explicitly say what they’re doing with your token to the user sadly

[hoary wind]

The use of the token sounds very much like how the various unofficial (and very against Terms of Service) APIs work.

Thanks for the additional info

[formal surge]

Hiya, security researcher here. Just chiming in to confirm how @still yarrow stated it, is correct.

Rabbit has their users login on chrome running over a noVNC session from their portal. After logging in, their code dumps all cookies and saves them to Piiano.

When they perform a task on behalf of the user, they load these cookies back into another container running chrome in their infrastructure, and use playwright to click through it.

During our last tests, all login requests came via a single IP address (presumably a central http proxy they may have been using to blacklist URLs in the login VNCs). It's not known if other requests come from that IP, or just a general IP in AWS' EC2 range

[umbral wadi]

Yep, it looks like a hardware face for a cheap frontend.

They can't even be bothered to have more than one IP address going by the originating comment.

[formal surge]

Even weirder. It's an AWS elastic IP, so it's explicitly static

[hoary wind]

Hey thanks for this. Very good to have additional insight into how this works at a more technical level.

[umbral wadi]

Yeah this won't cause any issues at allll.....🫥

[late crown]

I want to share a very interesting video: https://youtu.be/kzE-dna_vKg?si=QoVdPC0kSP-NO5LE

[formal surge]

No worries 😊

[west hull]

They refuse to fix any security issues brought up to them

[grim idol]

I've got an R1 unopened right next to me. Meant to cancel but forgot about it lol

[faint oracle]

heard they have hardcoded API keys on those, somehow the researcher that made it public mentionned they got access to the full source code ... sounds like a debacle

[west hull]

Emily is one of those researchers. It's a bad situation

[formal surge]

Can also confirm this

[faint oracle]

👍

[hollow pewter]

Sounds like there's going to be hell to pay

[limpid violet]

Oooh! A neatly formatted, educated response-- hoping to see you hang out in tech-discussions! 💜 ☕

oh snap, no edits. Now I'm intimidated.

[kindred glacier]

chirp/

[rare glade]

@kindred glacier You'll need to visit suno.com for that.

Jul 3, 2024, 9:25 PM

[long tendon]

Tbh, if I was one of the recording labels I would bide my time and get chummy with the orange man so that when it goes into office I can pay him to rewrite the copyright law.. So that labels can copyright chords progression xD

[fervent crown]

Those of you doing more than just spamming your songs in discord channels hoping someone will stop and listen… What are you doing to promote your music? What has worked well and what hasn’t? #🐣┃suno-showcase is a f4f like4like sh!t show and I don’t have time to post every song I make in there 20 times a day hoping 1 or 2 people see it before it gets catapulted to the backlog by 50 more posts. Looking for a better method, any advice appreciated

Happy to move this if there’s a better channel for it, just direct me

tl;dr I’m looking for methods of sharing songs that are more likely to get them seen (heard)

[hollow ermine]

YouTube and SoundCloud

[limpid violet]

I'll have to look into it again, I'm not sure if it's just their paid-tier distribution service or just uploads in general, but did you know SoundCloud doesn't allow "computer generated content"-- as wildly vague as that statement is?

[hollow ermine]

Interesting

So fl loops generated with their built in chord generator falls under that? Its pretty vauge

[limpid violet]

I agree that suno-showcase becomes a madhouse-- I desperately wish it was limited to 1 post every day, because people would think hard about deciding what song they want to promote, and they'd have a much more thoughtful description of what the song means to them or why you should listen (instead of just "check out my latest banger!").

tbf, incentivizing people to create trending songs for cash last month probably exacerbated existing social media addiction for some, creating a wild feedback loop of constantly generating new content and posting, but I digress.

I think the hardest part is trying to make sure that you're advertising your songs to people who are interested and WANT to listen-- engaging in smaller communities that focus on styles that are relevant to you (like the song contests, some of the collaborative groups I've seen, etc) so your voice isn't drowned out, making your songs easily accessible for those who want to listen without you having to post the links all the time (not an advertisement, but look how I try to make use of my discord "profile"), just examples that I've used ❤️

[limpid violet]

https://help.soundcloud.com/hc/en-us/articles/22353035482523-DAW-AI-Integrations came across this while trying to track that down again

[hollow ermine]

Yeah, it really is

[limpid violet]

#📚┃suno-school message

Ahh, missed that part initially

Should be okay to upload just for regular soundcloud, but trying to get it into stores through them is a no-go

[fervent crown]

You make a lot of good points. Maybe a solution would be to make a bunch more share channels. Even a greater number of share anything channels would be enough to reduce the volume. You’d still have some people spamming all of them with the same song but not all. A more curated approach would be even better. Separate the share channels out by genre and have community reporting on posts that shouldn’t be in a channel to prevent spam.. maybe?

[fervent crown]

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll look into YouTube since it sounds like SC might be iffy

[limpid violet]

Any idea is welcome in brainstorming, but imo more channels = more opportunities for " /chirp /chirp /chrip chirp/ " 😛 , and instead of having your song buried in the thread, it's buried in a thread which is buried amongst other threads.

I agree that it feels like yelling into the wind to advertise on suno-showcase, and I'd be interested in seeing any sort of shakeup on a trial basis 🙂

[fervent crown]

I haven’t been here long enough to know what the /chirp stuff is/means lol

But I defer to your experience haha, back to the drawing board

[limpid violet]

I'm just being cheeky 😛 -- before Suno, you used to make music by putting that command in discord, but it's been shut down for a bit. If you pay attention to it, you'll notice that every possible location that people can post will eventually start getting those commands, followed by the Woodhouse bot telling them it doesn't work -- often directly followed yet again by another chirp request. If it doesn't work in one channel, they just try again somewhere else.

Jokes aside, I don't think it's a bad idea at all -- 3Daizy sort of already implemented that same idea with https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154790975240155247, but not enough people care enough about looking that far into it and just want to share it where it'll get seen the most (personal assumption)

[late crown]

@viscid root if you think your cat was cute:
https://x.com/3daizyofficial/status/1808246704954827048

3DAI ZY (@3daizyofficial) on X

Why is this SO CUTE? 💗🌼

Twitter · Jul 2, 2024, 9:09 PM

[limpid violet]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154863909375852606 Dear lord, the busiest thread is just filled with bot spam... -- oops, at least it started that way

[viscid root]

aaw Mini puppies

[late crown]

oh?

[limpid violet]

Just the start of the thread -- I was wondering why that one had 5000+ posts when the rest had ~100

[late crown]

Those threads are old.. hmmm.. let me check

[late crown]

I scrolled all the way up to the beginning

https://tenor.com/view/where-looking-confused-gif-16176243

[limpid violet]

#1154863909375852606 message ?

"Suno Chirp Bot"

Like I said, later it becomes filled with chat, but at first I was scrolling through tons of posts from the Suno Chirp bot. You're seeing those too, right?

https://tenor.com/view/please-say-sike-eric-andre-gif-14690972

[late crown]

oooh.. I was like.. uhm.. spam?

[limpid violet]

Oh, I meant a bunch of posts in a row from a bot instead of chat between people by "bot spam" , but I really had no idea how active the suno metal scene was. @smoky stone , things make a lot more sense why you guys go so hard 🤘🤣

@late crown Was the metal thread previously used for song generation back in the day when chirp worked, then renamed to "metal" when the genres section was made?

[late crown]

yes 🙂

[limpid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-im-something-of-a-scientist-myself-scientist-donald-kimball-gif-14910706

[west hull]

when credits renew?

[late crown]

/refresh

[rare glade]

Free Credits Refresh

Refreshes at 0300 UTC+0 (<t:1713236400:t> in your local time)

[sweet burrow]

websim.ai is just... wild

[limpid violet]

Oh god I'm scared to check it out. What is it?

[west hull]

thanks

[fervent crown]

making ai-generated websites on a simulated internet

[limpid violet]

...just the description makes me want to go replay Hypnospace Outlaw 🤣

[limpid violet]

what in the absolute--

how is this free--

[fervent crown]

It's insane. I don't understand how they're using Claude 3.5 Sonnet and GPT-4o without charging anything

[limpid violet]

Might just be a case of blitzscaling -- spend an absurd amount of money and resources rushing to be THE BEST, largely regardless of cost efficiency, all in the name of being the standout name in the industry

[limpid violet]

I was familiar with Claude, but didn't realize they were reusing the naming scheme, so seeing "Sonnet" didn't register at first, but just clued in that it's the model that came out like 2 weeks ago.

[fervent crown]

Yeah it's the new smartypants one

[limpid violet]

@fervent crown @sweet burrow I'm so conflicted right now-- am I angry at you both for introducing me to this and tanking my productivity in every other aspect of my life, or do I love you both for boosting my web design productivity

I can never stay mad at you two rascals ❤️

[sweet burrow]

catgirl-escorts.com

i also looked up jobs for a shadowrunner

[fervent crown]

yes!

[fervent crown]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[sweet burrow]

i dont know whether i prefer checking random urls, or prompting for sites yet, but its just... such a weird application of AI

[fervent crown]

I love the weird, bring back the weird internet

[limpid violet]

Legit, this gives me the same lofi internet vibe as ytmnd

[sweet burrow]

the generation delay brings back that whole dialup modem wait for everything vibe

[fervent crown]

everyone being able to create anything is ironically taking us back to the wild west of the internet. This reminds me of back in 2000 when everyone and everything had a website whether it needed one or not and the formatting and stylization/aesthetic was wiiiiiild

[sweet burrow]

i'm about to start picking random companies from fiction and check out their URLs

[fervent crown]

hahaha genius!

Era 2 Mistborn has a newspaper in some of the art with lots of ads for in-world shops and services if you need inspo. Should be easy to find if you want it

[limpid violet]

Oh man, wave of nostalgia remembering the ARG website Rare made for Perfect Dark 64

Made it feel like you were "hacking into the NSA"

[fervent crown]

I thought I was gonna get in at least that much trouble for all the songs and anime episodes I got from Limewire. I was just waiting for the fbi to show up, I knew it was coming any day

[sweet burrow]

all this AI stuff is just wild, i wish i still had the interest in tabletop RPG's, cuz of the ease of descriptions, pictures... websites... for a cyberpunk campaign or something.... puts a whole new spin on shopping for stuff if you can give ppl a website link for it

[fervent crown]

It really does. My test site on websim was a personality assessment that gave you a D&D character sheet based on the results. Really cool to be able to automate stuff like that now

[limpid violet]

Does anyone remember a video on the old web parodying the antipiracy videos, wherein someone downloads a song or video, and the FBI busts in and holds the family hostage in a super overblown proportion?

[fervent crown]

I think I was traumatized by that and literally expected that exact scenario

[limpid violet]

Oh my god; I was happy as a DM just having a random name generator that gave first and last names for different mythical races-- but being able to just "magic" up a website that can give a full NPC character sheet, along with quirks, personality traits, personal goals/fears/motivators, and a portait picture?

frantically searches for his dice bag

[fervent crown]

I haven't gotten it quite that honed in yet, but I can get it to give a basic character sheet with a picture and a name, alignment, bond, ideals, and all that

[sweet burrow]

ha, i dunno if it would be easier in the base LLM, but i'm sure the 'right prompt' could just magic up whole NPC sheets with stats, backgrounds, business names, and a picture or two

[fervent crown]

I wanna get it more indepth and more personalized

[fervent crown]

Can confirm, I've played with this idea a lot

[limpid violet]

lmao, I tracked it down and forgot JUST how nsfw it was, but I thought this part was salient given recent events in the news

"Don't let this happen to your family."

Oh, not blitzscaling, rate limited after a short amount of time per each model unless you provide your own API key, but still

[oblique robin]

@stark epoch
for vocals, try this out. dont skip through, give it a full listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-N6LqzdIM

let me know how it goes, im curious if it'll trigger it

[stark epoch]

will do.

[oblique robin]

god damn. gets me every single time lol

@stark epoch
not so much the vocals, but the whole vibe of this intro
and the live atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rC8dwKkSW4
the melodies on this intro float you off to another planet.

i have a bunch of 'chills' videos saved lol

[stark epoch]

lol. ooooookkkkkkk

[oblique robin]

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-concert-gif-11562845

[stark epoch]

i dunno what its doing but making me smile reall hard. i dunno why. lmao.

[oblique robin]

it feels like such a simple vibe, like you don't understand why you're feeling it so much

[stark epoch]

rite!!!!

[oblique robin]

iunno its weird. i feel music deep down lol. most people think im weird

[stark epoch]

me too . HIGH 5

wierdose for life. 😄

[orchid jungle]

I have 5 examples of things that really get me. Should i post them all at once?

[stark epoch]

dm to me lol i gotta go to bed. 😦

need my beaty sleep an all. so ill be back in about 40 years should do it lmao

[oblique robin]

im down lol, woodhouse may not let you link more than 2 lol

[orchid jungle]

ok

[oblique robin]

but yeah send em thru!

[orchid jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFI3VJHatN8&pp=ygULbG9ybiBkYWdnZXI%3D
https://youtube.com/shorts/SMZZaym9BvQ?si=6Y1sEwsgDf-ugMXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urfZMIMsYNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_hRfk4VZHs&pp=ygUUaGVyY3VsZXMgc29uZyBtZWRsZXk%3D

[strange gorge]

Asleep at the wheel

[orchid jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URt4gwi8UAA&list=PLEPMuf9aIkbmTEj02-9WfoFu4t994tYg-&index=1&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP0BJYhZMDo&list=PLEPMuf9aIkbnYSUKWvRFKJ1s0B_jXZQQy&index=4&pp=gAQBiAQB

https://rave.dj/NpIHe7D2Bzb-Lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64BsL0SJhzo&list=PLEPMuf9aIkbnYSUKWvRFKJ1s0B_jXZQQy&index=5&pp=gAQBiAQB

[carmine fractal]

/Chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[slate lichen]

Is this legit? https://www.sunoapi.com

[strange gorge]

No. There is no official Suno API

Anything 'Suno API' is absolutely not official, sanctioned or legit in any way

If and when there is an official API you will know about it

[sweet burrow]

cuz i had to see what this would turn up... lol... https://websim.ai/c/GRPlhmUfOifXskaPT

love that it embedded a rickroll

[desert solstice]

something

[spark vortex]

for those of you who like my suno's i have a compilation of them available here:
https://dirtymuddaphonker.bandcamp.com/album/-

[placid tartan]

Riley it ok I’m joy

[unique pecan]

/chirp

[rare glade]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[stiff pollen]

I love SUNO ❤️

[hoary wind]

In my experience, Suno ignores emojis or overcomplicated tags.

But it's interesting to experiment with and try things out though so if you have some credits spare and want to see for yourself what (if any) effect they have, try them 😄

[grim idol]

Trying out websim.ai, very impressive 'type a prompt and generate an app' demo, and at the moment it's all free
https://websim.ai/@summerforest66804114/suno-music-video-neonifier (video export didn't work, but got pretty close)

[copper totem]

https://poe.com/PhdExpert-CDvr4

[west hull]

A

AB

ABCD

[obsidian hare]

So now, One LLM character, Constant Action Narrative with Action History, Constant thought Narrative with Thought History, No user interaction enabls more options, functional needs system.

If needs a little more tweaking but the fact this can work offline has been blowing my mind

The AI can choose whether to respond to user messages, and how to respond based on how long its been since the last time the user sent a message. All histories are integrated with eachother. Thoughts every 15 seconds, actions every 15-45 seconds based on needs and actions taken, "fulfilling a need" leaves a whole story about how it did that in action history, which integrates back with chat history and thought history so they all can work off of eachother

So if the AI is eating lasagna it doesnt respond, and it can think about how good the lasagna is/was, which goes into its history for the next time it decides to respond, if ever, because its not random, the LLM is deciding

Anyway, not to ramble. If I get this working 100%, I'll put it on github

[tribal agate]

how do you guys usually make lyrics?

1. artisanally
2. let suno do it by itself
3. externally with gpt
4. gpt but with manual adjusts

[wise idol]

Is there anyone doing interesting things with suno? I can't find much.

It seems the vast majority of users are just faffing about, posting suno links to insipid tracks, or youtube videos with ai-generated animations (yawn). Who is going beyond suno output, working to add value to its output, or fighting against it in creative ways? Can someone please point me to something that is interesting and actually has value here?

[mint wagon]

Sounds like you know what you want, get on it

[wise idol]

That's what I been doing! But who else is there from which to draw inspiration? I can't be the only one...

[mint wagon]

The only thing that I've been doing which would come close is trying to transcribe some ridiculously funky basslines Suno has given me, but I've not messed around with the actual output from Suno (other than cropping and messing with the mix)

[limpid violet]

There's 380k+ users here, I feel like you might be painting everyone together with the same brush.

[wise idol]

Oh that's cool! Creating human-performed covers is interesting!

[limpid violet]

I have mine on Apple Music, Spotify, BandCamp, iTunes, and a bunch more 😄 I can't say enough great things about DistroKid

[wise idol]

"vast majority" != "Everyone" 🙂

[limpid violet]

There's a lot of people "fighting against Suno in creative ways" in #🐣┃suno-showcase, but I'm inferring a hint of disdain or passive aggression toward that channel-- perhaps you'd be interested in forming your own #1254871724135022614 to try to find likeminded users? Alternatively, there's some ongoing community events there you could check out.

Clearly stating how you're looking to differentiate your creative work from all of the others could help draw people in, instead of 'yawning' at some of the awesome creations people are making with Hedra (for example) to accompany their songs-- though it's just my opinion that you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[wise idol]

The community-contests idea is good! Thank you.

[spark vortex]

Suno understands emojis!

[crimson gust]

Has anybody had to contact Suno's support about a billing issue? Looks like email is the only option which I tried and I'm wondering how long it may take to get a response. Are they quick? Are there other ways to get more direct support?

[limpid violet]

@west hull Have you heard that song Furrybeans made that's 100% emojis and doesn't listen to any of them? Not telling anyone what to put in their songs, but I think its important to note that a lot of us aren't able to replicate the large majority of "prompt decorations" working.

suno /song/f735599e-cdf9-49dd-aa21-984fe7a9cdbb

[limpid violet]

I'm not sure that an explicit turnaround time for a response has been established (or if it's posted somewhere I haven't seen it), but [e-mail] is the only way I'm aware of. Sometimes they'll respond in the bugs or suggestions channel, but it's usually for larger issues effecting multiple users from what I've seen

[zinc valve]

oh man, I'm playing around with SpectraLayers 10 Pro to see stem isolation

this is awesome

I'm thinking about buying 11 Pro

as it has up to 11 different stem separations

it can take Drums.wav and isolate kick, snare, hi-hat, cymbals out of it

and with vocals, it can seperate lead and backing

if it would be able to add the capabilities to extract synth/lead/pad one day as well, it's game-over, in a good way

1. Use Ableton
2. Produce 60 seconds long original track and upload it to Suno
3. Use Suno to describe the arrangement and production, progression of the track
4. Receive the full version
5. Download the .wav
6. Upload to SpectraLayers and extract every possible detail
7. Export to Ableton
8. Master / mix the audio for the best quality
9. Winning

[tame kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[runic depot]

happy 4th

https://fxtwitter.com/mudshevik/status/1808687486735945864

[sacred dock]

Who are you using as distributor?

[mint wagon]

DistroKid or SoundCloud Plus make it pretty easy

[clear bison]

can u make trap outta this

like frrfrf rfrobgnonogoonogong

[spark vortex]

https://dirtymuddaphonker.bandcamp.com/album/-

^my new release credit's Suno even though i am a premium user. Because i love Suno, and I want them to know how I made theese awesome tunes.

over 2000+ credits for 5$ is a good deal! What do you think?

[sweet burrow]

i think... websim.ai is a riot... i looked up a drow dating site, and it put the copyright in forgotten realms years, and had lines like "Find matches who appreciate your eight-legged friends", "We understand the complexities of drow relationships and the importance of political alliances in our society."

[spark vortex]

is true fasho

[sweet burrow]

i did a marvel dating site, and got lines like "
Captain Marvel

Looking for someone who's down to earth but ready to explore the stars.
"

[strange gorge]

Oh man thanks for bringing this up

I saw it mentioned a bit ago and meant to follow up but then died on the way to my home planet

[sweet burrow]

fake wikipedia pages are great... i've been reading up about incan airships

hittite airships were better, imo 🙂

its actually amazing how well they manage to get AI to produce this quirky humor

[strange gorge]

This is wildly cool right off the bat

[sweet burrow]

"I bought the Cloak of Invisibility. It works great, but now I can't find it." - Sneaky McSneakface, Rogue Extraordinaire

"The Wand of Fireballs was a hit at my last wizard duel. Literally." - Zizzle Sparkfizz, Gnome Evocator

(testimonials when I went to Volo's website for magical items)

[strange gorge]

Well I'm convinced

[spark vortex]

check my drago track https://suno.com/@joshuasca

[tawny quarry]

As tempting as it is to monetize something that Suno spit out for me; I can't take pride in it as an artist. I've been publishing a few on Youtube; but I don't want my Spotify artist profile to be known for AI content. SO - what I have been starting to do is generate vocals using Suno. Which isn't the greatest experience yet since it's generally a full-instrument piece; but then I open it up in FL Studio, use the stem splitter tool to extract the vocals, and use those vocals for my own handwritten music.

[limpid violet]

I'm genuinely worried that in a year's time I won't care about the real internet, and will spend all of my time on the simulated internet.

It's just... too cool right off the bat.

[tawny quarry]

Unfortunately my experience stops at FL Studio more or less. I've seen similar stuff on Youtube for Ableton or maybe even standalone software though.

[limpid violet]

~3 steps to audio separation, provided you have compatible hardware (so angry that it uses Intel architecture so I can't use my RTX card, but I can still use my AMD cpu which is a little slower, but still).

UVR is great, but I prefer having something built directly into my DAW so I don't have to import the songs afterward (I'm lazy) (well, that and OpenVino gives pretty decent results)

https://docs.openvino.ai/2022.3/home.html

Actually, it's a bigger thing that I thought -- looks like a whole AI system, and the website references their API, so there very well might be OpenVino plugins for whatever other DAW you're using ❤️

[grim idol]

Ultimate Vocal Remover is quite good if you have a GPU, doesn't have to be super powerful, but just something in the last few years. It comes models which work pretty well but if you want to get deep check https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fjNvJzj8ZGSer7c7OFe_CNfUKbAxEh_OBv94ZdRG5c/edit#heading=h.roiuj54hzww3

First thing, just download and try the build in stuff: https://ultimatevocalremover.com/ if I recall there's a built in browser to download other models.

[limpid violet]

I've seen some people talking about spectral analyzers, which seems WAY over my head, but super powerful...
#🗣️┃chill-chat message
I might have to try this tomorrow 😄

[sacred dock]

I've done some research and found a free distributor. Although they said 5 days...our album was released in 2 days. https://open.spotify.com/album/7yglqVbF4iX92hXliWWqw3?si=RdhQqXr0Rf6BASTMywt00Q

[bronze scroll]

This is exactly what I’ve been doing, I’ve also been importing some stuff I made into Suno and seeing what kind of remix it spits out and work with those stems

[wise idol]

Totally agree. Prompting is just turd polishing, and there's nothing valuable or interesting there for an artist beyond a 10 second novelty. The fully produced tracks of suno or udio smothers one's voice because they leave nothing for an artist to do but adjust some basic parameters of a mix, then curate yet another album for sale on bandcamp. So I am interested in finding others who transcend this nonsense and actually use suno/udio in service of their voice rather than a substitute for it.

[whole bolt]

I kinda do this. I split the stems and rerecord vocals on some tracks

[grim idol]

I must have one of the biggest Suno libraries, well over 1000 pages, and the vast majority of my Suno time is "song prompting as puzzle", like, "Is it possible to do X". Or curiosity "what on earth would this prompt do...". Not all of it, sometimes I hear something and do just want to build out a song in a straightforward way. But even many of those songs started as a puzzle.

[whole bolt]

That's one of the most fun parts, for me at least. I love learning a new type of prompt engineering. Suno satisfies my musical love and tech curiousity at the same time.

[prime bronze]

Websim.ai to intensify these worries

[zinc valve]

sooo, I did it, bought the SpectraLayers 11 Pro. Wow, I'm looooving it.

Saxophone loop in wav as an example. One picture one, you can only see one wavelength and that's it. The second picture shows the same wav file in layers, so I can see tonal, transient and noise wavelenghts, and edit all of them individually.

regular singular wavelenght of a sax loop .wav

vs the same sax loop .wav with Spectralayers

meaning that I can actually smooth out the bad sound quality, noise etc and master/mix created by Suno sometimes

[hollow ermine]

I am curious, how good is it compared to the built-in Fl Studio Stem Separation, or is it the same thing? 🤔

[zinc valve]

damn fck, I'm impressed by SpectraLayers 11 Pro

really, blown away

that's how many stems I was able to extract from a single .wav file

[queen brook]

I heard about the lawsuit; as a paid user and a big believer in what Suno is doing, how can we, the users, help support Suno? If you need user testimony or support in any way, count me in, I don't want to see the big music guys take you down because they are afraid of losing their stranglehold on the musical industry. I love what you are doing. It gives people like me who love to write lyrics but don't have the music training to write the music a chance to make music. I have thirteen releases on to the open market so far with more planned so keep going Suno!

[slate tusk]

Can someone tell me how hyperfollow is supposed to work if no one knows you? https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/melox91/frei-sein-feat-dan3er

[limpid violet]

As your content is added to stores, the hyperfollow page will be gradually updated to show the links.

how does it work if no one knows you
You still need to advertise your content like usual (which might be better suited for #🐣┃suno-showcase or #1154790975240155247?), hyperfollow just makes it easy to send someone a single link and let them choose their own platform for simplicity.

[slate tusk]

ah okay i understand

[limpid violet]

...I'm getting overwhelmed with the amount of 'new toys' I have to play with, but this seems too cool to write off as "outside my skill level" -- I'm planning on looking into spectral analysis to get a better understanding (I think there's even a basic version of it built into audacity?), but do you have a youtube recommendation or something that you feel really shows what's capable with it?

[strange gorge]

How 'clean' are they? On their own I mean

I don't do it often but the 'bleed' kinda muddies things, vocals slipping into the edges of other instruments, stuff like that

When I do a stem split using other tools

[limpid violet]

You know what's going on 😛

I'm absolutely tickled pink at what's possible, and it's wild having a whole new "specialized AI" outside of a chat-oriented LLM to interact with and discover the it's quirks 🤯

[limpid violet]

Just from the picture they showed, seeing 'guitar' listed separately from 'other instruments' gives me hope that vocals might be more cleanly separated, as sometimes background ambient noises can phase between the 'other instruments' and 'vocals' in Audacity/OV. 😮‍💨

My ears perked up when they mentioned being able to clean individual layers -- anything other than zooming 1500% into audacity to manually move sample-dots sounds like a dream. 😛

[warm nymph]

@all if i pay for a pro membership which lets me own the copyright can i copyright my sobg with the us copyright office?

[umbral wadi]

It's not quite as useful IMHO but it's also worth noting that vocalremover.org also exists and is completely web based.

[warm nymph]

?

bruh is anyone gonna answer?

[true girder]

spyware heeelp 😄

[rocky haven]

Wasnt aware my name could make people freak out

[late crown]

Please don't post your profile of other platforms. It's soliciting

[rocky haven]

I deleted

[late crown]

When you have created songs with suno under a paid plan, the song is yours. I am Dutch myself, so not sure about the USA laws, but should be able to registrate your songs yes.

[true girder]

oh haha was a joke of course 😅

[zinc valve]

On their own as extracted, they're as clean as Suno generates them, but now I'm able to run over it with DX 11 and other VSTs, so it sounds a lot better. Nowhere near the studio clean ofc, but still way better

[hexed hollow]

I’m a new suno user, and I have some questions… suno doesn’t have access for comments right? And we can’t download other users’ songs?

[prime bronze]

yes, this will be one of the interesting aspects of the upcoming court cases. it is being debated whether suno or udio even can legally give away rights to the songs, if the songs from them don't have real copyright (in U.S especially) and furthermore if the training material from which the resulting song coms from, is infringing on artists copyrights

[zinc valve]

Also, iZotope has Audiolens VST, which works in a way that you press record button and play the song on Spotify and then it creates a reference mastering present for you to help you get similar sound out of your whatever it is you're mastering. So let's say you wanna create a bass or synth or drums similar to Chris Malinchak, then you download his song, upload it to Spectralayers, you can just mute everything else and just play the sound. And it creates a mastering present that makes that sound similar to it for Elements or Ozone

[late crown]

this is an interesting video to watch: https://youtu.be/kzE-dna_vKg?si=QoVdPC0kSP-NO5LE

[prime bronze]

also one of the debted and to be decided issues, yes.

[warm nymph]

Thank you!

[prime bronze]

can and should AI training be comparable to human learning, when it's then deployed as monetized service

[late crown]

I will leave that to the court

Debates can get ugly on this part. And we moderators are not laywers.

[prime bronze]

based on my own tests regarding the producer tags, i'm not overlty optimistic. for me, its nice if v4 comes out before final decisions, what ever it is. it will probably take at least a year, more if it goes to supreme court or something due to having significant impact on entire AI industry

very good question indeed is, if the court says that suno is illegal, what will it then mean for distrokid and us who have published "iilegally" trained songs

will distro come after me

prolly deletes everything immediately alteast

[zinc valve]

Yup

But remember, they tried to take down Spotify, they tried to take down Netflix etc etc

Big biz doesn't like innovation but eventually are forced to adapt

Candle makers were pissed af when a lightbulb was invented

[prime bronze]

well, sporify and netflix came up with legal licencing plans (fair is another issue entirely due to licencing agreements being between big corpos) after they took down illegal ones

so in same spirit, there could be licensed music trained based after sunos and udios

[zinc valve]

But it's already out there and fighting it is like fighting a windmill

[prime bronze]

light bulbs didn't to my recollection play dj khlaed producer tags when lit, so not really comparable, as thats more replacing entirely

[limpid violet]

I think a lot of people jump to the immediate assumption that a producer tag means that the training data contains unlicensed copyright material because they already thought that & this is confirmation bias.

It makes sense to me that the amateur producer would put his content EVERYWHERE, perhaps even making it available on websites that have a disclaimer that the content might be used, repurposed, such and such yadda yadda blah blah without compensation in perpetuity, and so on.

Kinda silly when people ask in the discord what's going to happen, as if the devs are going to break word on their legal defense to let user#256423 know how they plan to outwit the prosecution.

If I were Suno and that were the case, I'd rather share that information only when legally required to do so, hoping that the prosecutors failed to research further and confirm with the "paper trail", but yeah, speculative court fiction until things happen.

[umbral wadi]

No, no, no, man. I totally got the details on the car warranty issue on my Dodge from the gas station guy at the register. They totally know everything about cars because they work with them all day.

[strange gorge]

I'd imagine it depends entirely on the song you start with

I tend to like more 'lush' mixes making this sort of thing more difficult

[pliant osprey]

Working on video for a Suno song and wanted to share this… I want a drum / guitar / bagpipe like this!

[umbral wadi]

I have something somewhere of the stringed saxophone something made me once. I was like WTF?

[limpid violet]

Ratings are visible to everyone -- if you give your song a thumbs up, others will see this as well.

A single rating isn't enough to "tip the scale", so feel free to give your songs thumbs up & down without worry. I use Thumbs Up as a quick way to go back to extensions that I might use

Nope!

suno .com/song/c6401def-d785-4721-96e2-bbaa823f663b Here's a silly song that I gave a thumbs up to -- if I share the song, you're able to see the thumbs up, but the song still stays private unless I share the link

[wispy reef]

@strange gorge https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZCw6zYTWc

[wispy reef]

@long quartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYIUFEQeh3g

[long quartz]

LMAO

oh lord

yeah, i've been reading a webtoon - usually do with something relating to insects and it introduced me to a few i thought were really cool so i have decided i'll do a few using them

[desert solstice]

something

[wispy reef]

There's a lot of good material out there 🐛 😄

[long quartz]

indeed

HIVE and jungle juice are pretty good, but still looking for more

[dusk mirage]

anyone have a good free image enhancer and upscaler for the album artwork that suno generates? I was using Canva but they made theirs no longer free

[heady cradle]

I use Adobe PhotoMirage to animate still images. Its easy and fun.