🗣️┃chill-chat

[long tendon]

Discord app repository?

[flint sierra]

and another AI repository, watson from ibm

[flint sierra]

repository is a place where people post their code in. suno has one, and is public for bark

[long tendon]

Ah so i guess that's how developers can do stuff for other apps

[flint sierra]

https://github.com/suno-ai

this is the official one i think

yeaahh and we do

discord has one and its open source

and suno has bark as free to contribute to

[long tendon]

Today I learnt a new thing

[flint sierra]

i have 9 of my own im contributing to

[long tendon]

Maybe they'll pick your code

[flint sierra]

no but contributing is a big part of it software mentality.

give back to people, help others if you can

[long tendon]

I get it

It makes sense

[flint sierra]

spider won

snake did not

[long tendon]

Huh?

[flint sierra]

snakes vs spiders

🙂

[long tendon]

You find a video? Lolol

How big was the snake though?

[flint sierra]

they have same weight

[long tendon]

Lol where did you find that? YouTube?

[flint sierra]

imagination 🙂

[fast rivet]

some days ago i generated this speech test on discord suno to test it... the first thing that happened wnhe i showed it as a example was a totally new person popped up and insulted me... they either got insulted by the first part praising tiktok, or by the second or third that tell the dangers of tiktok... thats when i know art is on a good way... when its abled to polarise instantly ... and suno does that with the right input.

[long tendon]

I would have been more inclined to listen to it if it was Thrust, jesus

[hoary wind]

That's probably on a different website

[long tendon]

lololololololololololol

[warm mist]

Hello I'm new here. I've been loving this technology. I'm excited to see how it progresses. Here's a track that I've generated. https://soundcloud.com/0x494d4149/velvet-memories?si=2d9a7fe53dbc40fe9cb48a5b8cb98259&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[dusty widget]

how to create music over 1.20 min

[grim idol]

I really liked the K-Drama School Nurse Files. There we go, off topic.

[frank panther]

https://www.suno.wiki/faq/making-music/how-do-i-make-the-song-longer/

[worthy grail]

Whats strange is i actually thought the time had been increased, as I had a few songs 2 minutes long. Apparently not though as my other songs are half the length 😁

[fast rivet]

it depends on the style and the lyrics... if the lyrics are too short... the song is short too ... sometimes ™️

[frank panther]

Sometimes™
😅

[high compass]

just in case someone is interested : Band-Maid is releasing a new clip from their Yokohama Concert in 21mn on yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1y-RRVd70

[long tendon]

Kawaii

[high compass]

The girls were also in the chat, as always ... although I'm seriously not sure 'kawaii' corresponds to Band Maid 😉

https://tenor.com/view/metal-beavis-and-butthead-mike-judge-headbanging-headbangers-gif-4832670

[long tendon]

They are great. They look cute and sound FIERCE was listening to them this morning

[high compass]

also :

was just announced.

considering how both bands were fan-girling when they met that's not super surprising;)

[long tendon]

HA! I was actually thinking about such a lineup this morning! If they had TRiDENT as well..

Japanese people getting treated

[high compass]

yeah ... I'm crying in European. At least I got to see them live in 2019 AND even had a meet & greet

[long tendon]

Who?

Band maid?

[high compass]

Band Maid

yeps

[long tendon]

The Warning play live in London relatively soon

But I hate crowds with a passion so...

[high compass]

Best Concert Ever ... and I say that as someone who got to see Pink Floyd, Sonic Youth, Bad Religion, Einstürzende Neubauten and Nick Cave live

[long tendon]

I could try to sneak in.. but in venues it's harder than in festival

[high compass]

nice ... go there. Honestly, you don't know when you'll get another chance

[long tendon]

All the bands I saw live were when I was on tour with a metal band. Got to meet Lamb Of God and Devin Townsend. Saw Trivium live and other bands

[long tendon]

Crowds....

I get really cantankerous when I'm surrounded by people and I am prone to lash out... So I rather avoid crowds than getting kicked out because I lost it

It's ok I enjoy watching live performances

That's why I would rather work at a festival or a venue than participating

[high compass]

Balcony, if available, might be an option

[long tendon]

Ye I guess

[high compass]

'saw' babymetal in Hamburg in 2020, and I wished I had gone to the balcony

[long tendon]

Babymetal another great band

[high compass]

as in "super violent Moshpit, People two heads higher than me" (super violent in the safe good-crowd way)

[long tendon]

Always wondering why traditional metalheads have to give them shit.. lol

[high compass]

I got a glimpse of Su

[long tendon]

Ahahahaha

Better than nothing xD

[high compass]

well ... first metal concert my daughter went to ... she did enjoy it 😉

[long tendon]

Friend of mine that is super tall it's mega conscious about going front row because of people behind him

[high compass]

she was 16 back then ... got her first Doc Martens right after it (only cheap look-alikes before that 😛

[fresh aurora]

When you Mix EDM with Violin you get this. This song. Skippy The Evil Clown - Flashing In The Sky. Written by Lovely Soul and Skippy The Evil Clown I was thinking of Lindsey Starling when I made this. This Talks about a dream i had 5 years ago. Enjoy. https://open.spotify.com/album/5XHfbx8ONXpXiMC94lRyM5?si=pMmbUy0lTTmobBOC7X4qYA Made with Suno AI.

https://tenor.com/view/lindsey-stirling-violin-music-gif-3320465

[high compass]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/19/24105748/nvidia-neo-npc-prototypes-gdc-2024

FUN!

[misty dew]

how to continue songs with jukebox?

[runic depot]

you know

the Mobile Infantry are way cooler in the Starship Troopers book

the Helldivers are actually closer to the book than the Starship Troopers movie is

[umbral wadi]

Not that hard of an accomplishment. The director never read the book and hated what they thought it was about.

[runic depot]

funny, my buddy's discord server had a movie night to watch Starship Troopers because everyone was getting into Helldivers

and I thought it was pretty good

can't imagine why it flopped--taken on its own merits it's a perfectly good movie. Without it we never would've gotten to see Neil Patrick Harris in a nazi uniform

[lucid lantern]

I saw it when it came out, I'm doing my part

[umbral wadi]

Are you an anime fan?

[runic depot]

I don't actually watch anime regularly, but I'd say I enjoy and appreciate anime

[umbral wadi]

You know Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind?

[runic depot]

It's one of my favorite films of all time, yes

[umbral wadi]

OK, then this should resonate.

Are you also familiar with "Warriors of the Wind" and that whole thing?

[runic depot]

Actually, no

I had to google it and... what is this...?

[umbral wadi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausicaä_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film)#Warriors_of_the_Wind

They butchered it.

They completely butchered that film.

That's how fans of Heinlein regard what was done to make the Starship Troopers movie.

[runic depot]

Wow, Ghibli got burned hard by "localizers" waaaaaay back in the day!

[umbral wadi]

Don't get me wrong--the book has flaws. I flatout didn't read it for decades after I'd read just about everything else the man wrote. Because I didn't care for the cold opening in the first few chapters before the story flashed back to the beginning of the plot. But if you're a fan of his works watching someone who admitted to having hated everything he wrote take something that they put together, change a few names and pretend it was a parody hurts.

That's all I'm saying. It wasn't adaptive decay--that happens and I expect it. It was butchery.

[runic depot]

I'm not too surprised that I didn't know about this.

I'm gonna be honest, I barely remember reading the Starship Troopers book. I read one other Heinlein book, though...

The Puppet Masters, that's the one

Oh, and Strangers In A Strange Land

... Didn't like that one

I was a teenager at the time and it struck me as hippy shit aimed at people who needed to be informed of the fact that atheism exists

The Puppet Masters was something special, though

I should give all of those books another chance. I'm sure I can find them as audiobooks

[umbral wadi]

Hahahaha...in some ways Strangers in a Strange Land created the hippies...

The Puppet Masters was a good one. Still need to see if I'm brave enough to even try watching that movie.

[runic depot]

that explains why my mom was so eager to recommend it

[umbral wadi]

lol

If you do give Stranger another shot, try to find the unedited version.

[runic depot]

I strongly doubt that I had a censored version

[umbral wadi]

The publisher was so sure it was going to flop that they insisted on a lower word count to try to disuade Heinlein from submitting it. So he went back and basically gutted the book.

[runic depot]

there was plenty of sex in it

oh, that kind of 'unedited'

Huh.

[umbral wadi]

It went from 220,000-word length down to 160,000 words.

I mean.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[runic depot]

wwwwow

[umbral wadi]

If I'm recommending his stuff, I'd probably recommend both The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and The Future History series if you can get it in a collected omnibus version.

[runic depot]

Books Kazu Read When He Was Much Too Young, part 1:

Wicked

Stranger In A Strange Land

Dune

[umbral wadi]

Oh and I have a soft spot for two of his "juveniles" Farmer in the Sky and Citizen of the Galaxy.

And Door into Summer.

[runic depot]

Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep (this was a doozy)

[umbral wadi]

Though that one (Door into Summer) has a bit of a modern squick plot point...kind of.

[umbral wadi]

I could never get into Dick.

(I know what I wrote.)

I did like some of the Valis series.

[runic depot]

years later, I learned that he probably wrote that book while high as fuck

which, you know, yeah.

[umbral wadi]

lulz

Yeah. His whole story is a trip.

Have you ever encountered Spider Robinson? I was a fan of his Crosstime Saloon series.

[runic depot]

nope

[umbral wadi]

I liked Dune. Didn't care for most of the rest of that series. Herbert's White Plague was interesting and more plausible than ever.

[runic depot]

A few years back I went through the entire Dune series as audiobooks because I read them when I was so young, since then I've listened to mostly trash like the Dresden Files

[umbral wadi]

Never got into that one. I enjoyed the one with the Romans.

[runic depot]

and one really good series called "The Bobiverse"

kind of pseudo-hard scifi where they do more stealing/referencing scifi ideas than dwelling on the science

[umbral wadi]

::nods::

[runic depot]

Dune is interesting in that there was clearly a theme of change across the books, with the point being that the face of the universe has changed when you get to the next book

aaaaaand then the author croaked, leaving me to theorize about where it was going. And I do have a theory.

... I should watch those new Dune movies.

[umbral wadi]

I watched part one. Need to finish it up with part two before I miss the chance to see it in the theater.

[flint sierra]

😮

[trail temple]

why is there no playlist channel for suno

[cloud drift]

Wym?

[cloud drift]

Playlist channel like posting your songs?

[trail temple]

I thought you could mix your songs with others or make play lists of several people songs

[cloud drift]

Ohh I see

I mean you can add songs from other people to your Suno playlist

But like adding together to one playlists isnt a thing

[trail temple]

I was just wondering if there is a place to share completed playlists so I can see if good recomendations

[warm mist]

Some Jazz 🥰 https://soundcloud.com/0x494d4149/unwind?si=45f07483de9f472ea4f0fb298c46ca1b&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[frank panther]

a playlist of playlists?

[gritty hollow]

a playlist showcase channel here would be great actually 😄

[opaque temple]

Post that is suggestions.
Personally I want a meme channel so I got somewhere to spam! 😹

[long tendon]

I don't think carpets really work that way I'm afraid

[opaque temple]

Have you tried? 😸

[long tendon]

I can't say I tried xD

[acoustic sapphire]

@fluid vapor you could not have made any other choice than the one you did

and it is up to you to prove to me that free will exist.

where is free will in our biological system?

[fluid vapor]

Google "burden of proof"

[opaque temple]

V3 for everyone - lets have phun!

[dark hawk]

is suno down now?

[feral rapids]

Record a new music compilation

That's the only reason I'm adding you. :C

[untold wing]

AWS poly generates VISEME json data so that the audio plus viseme data can be used for very accurate lipsync. Is there a way for suno team to please please consider this as a feature . Reason : many 3D animation software packages can use viseme json data for realistic lipsync. Plus a developer can link their code to read the video data .

[fast hull]

are you allowed to use the song on social media?

[late crown]

Using your Suno-generated songs on social media is permitted, but there are specific guidelines. If you are a Pro or Premier member of Suno, you have the right to use your songs commercially, which includes sharing them on social media platforms. This right is granted because, as a paying subscriber, you own the songs you create. However, it's essential to adhere to Suno's Terms of Service to ensure your usage complies with their policies. If you are using the free version of Suno, the songs you create are owned by Suno, and you can only use them for non-commercial purposes.

[fast hull]

I understand. Thank you

[warm swan]

Suno Devs: Lets create a AI music generator, how hard could it be?
Users: Suno can't generate "Kikuyu traditional folk songs". I got a lowland song but they are a highland tribe. It wasn't even in the proper Bantu dialect! Literally useless!

[odd hazel]

this one was really hard, and the end it's probably still lowland smh :/ https://app.suno.ai/song/55d4d662-6d95-4574-95b2-b9b9af31625b

one of my favorite pieces of user feedback was "the song was in standard Urdu, not the dialect in my grandfather's village" and I was like, I'm honored that you think we could pull that off, even in theory

[long tendon]

In all fairness, given the way AI services are advertised to the general public and the insane amount of hype that far too many people spam on social media, I would say that it's not unreasonable for an average, non-computer-literate person to have such high expectations

I am personally a little bit sick to hear what AI can/will be rather than what it actually is

[long tendon]

Thought experiment: Let's assume for a moment that AI has become AGI and that it can be seamlessly integrated with robotics so that it can do everything humans can if not doing it better.
Then, I ask myself:

• How would society be shaped by this?
• What would be the point for humans to exist?

[hoary wind]

I thought a bit about this kind of thing recently, in a general sense... We are trying to create all these different AIs that do different things, when they all converge and do most of the things humans do, but better, weirdly we will have made ourselves technically inferior.

I don't know how this will affect anything, there'll be pros and cons. I don't think it will make a difference to the point of human existence - there isn't really a point other than to exist / life is what we make it. IMO.

[long tendon]

Ye, I get that. The thing makes me think is: (Hypothetically) If any given business can have AIs / Robots that can do the same job if not a better job than their employees can, what incentives will they have to keep them in employment?
What happens to all the people that do low waged jobs?
What incentives are there to keep providing them with an Income?

[hoary wind]

It's a good point. I can see companies being mandated to have humans as a % of their workforce or something like that 😆

Also yes, AI is overhyped. It's impressive in its current state but it's perhaps being used a bit too much to try to solve problems. I've read a few articles now that are clearly written by an AI because they contain nonsense or just ramble on without giving much info, for example.

[long tendon]

It's just thoughts that came out hanging around discord servers of these AI services..

[marble glacier]

https://discord.gg/47dVakB4

have you guys tried this?
you describe a sound you want it to generate. it isn't very good, but I find a lot of generated stuff sounds neat.
mostly low quality but I find that gives it a nostalgic 90s computer game vibe.
kind of like playing Quake or Silent Hill 1

[long tendon]

I joined

Seems neat

[meager leaf]

https://fxtwitter.com/jakedowns/status/1771204111087599837?s=20

[eager pine]

Do you publish on Apple Music, Spotify, ... ?

[marble glacier]

@rocky meadow

made this a while back

PARTY DALEKS
PARTY DAAAALEEEKS

[celest galleon]

i need some feedback on this beat

https://app.suno.ai/song/3f58f3fa-f01c-4bb5-94f2-5b595e52eaa7

yes i made it

pretty sure its trending now

has like 22 likes lol

[neon crag]

Okay period

[celest galleon]

💀 😆

ok

[shadow panther]

Hi

[untold oriole]

Can we use the music for content?

[acoustic badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfFHGDO8TqQ

[rare blaze]

What music?

Kinda lost here

[rare blaze]

As someone who loves music, these platforms aren't really my go-to again

Reason being that, gala music streaming platform now makes me earn more $MUSIC token

[lusty stirrup]

Hmm

these are popular though

[lusty stirrup]

Okay 🤔

web3 based?

[rare blaze]

yes

[lusty stirrup]

Okai

I'm not really a music person so I'd just look at the token as an investment

[rare blaze]

all good mate

[viral flame]

https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/tennessee-elvis-act-protecting-artists-voices-ai-impersonation-1235637934/

Anyone here from Tennessee?

[nimble bone]

Hi guys. I am new on this discord. Me and my 2 friends are preparing an anniversary called « back to back anniversary » and for fun, I created a song with AI. Thing is, the song is great but there is one little thing, the lyrics says « two hearts one melody » and we are three. Everytime I change the lyrics for « three hearts » it changes the song. Is there a way to keep the song and just change two for three ? Thanks. https://app.suno.ai/song/ac27d8db-d3fd-4d19-8349-ea0bc2af7bb4

[viral flame]

If you choose V3, you could "continue from this clip" and choose to start from a specific time.
Set it to continue from right before when he says "two" and change it to "three".
The rest of the song after that will be generated differently than the original...
But it will hopefully be just as good, if not even better.

[nimble bone]

Arf 😞

[long tendon]

They sure love their acronyms

[meager leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjF_tua0tnc&list=OLAK5uy_kgg6Ui6j9OwLWpRTYmW_meC0TjHAvcpx0&index=2

[meager leaf]

first time on distrokid 2 tracks so far

[lusty sparrow]

Can anyone vouch for distrokid? This is the first time I'm hearing of it, sounds interesting but it costs £17.99 which makes me warey

[frank panther]

They all charge a fee. there is a TON of info and reviews....

It will cost money to distribute your songs to the streaming companies, money that may not be recuperated.

The streamers want a middleman.

It's pay-to-play, so unless you have a large social media following, expect an anual fee from now on. One more mouth to feed, but maybe worth it for lots of reasons...

[umbral wadi]

YouTube finally pushed this out...

I have gone and marked all my videos with moving video made with AI as such. I imagine some updates will eventually mention music at which point I will have to mark everything.

Felt kind of silly to mark some of the obvious animation as "generating a realistic-looking scene that didn't actually occur" but we all know that this is going to be abused like crazy. Better to over self-report than not at all.

[hoary wind]

I just looked at the "learn more" page when uploading my first Suno song to YouTube. Seems AI music should be disclosed:

[umbral wadi]

::sigh::

Back to YouTube I go...

[umbral wadi]

And done!

Man that was a pain though.

I have a lot more music uploaded than I thought I did...

[fast rivet]

hmmmmmm

[frank panther]

'synthetically created music'

like... synthesizers? laptops?

🙄

[pallid sable]

Hey everybody, just a heads up that CD Baby has implemented a new anti-ai policy, and they're rejecting AI compositions now.

[meager leaf]

autotune tho

[frank panther]

MAKE A VIDEO!

[pallid sable]

Yeah, I haven't done that for a minute, have I

[frank panther]

I am looking at their site policy..., nothing there yet...
do you have a link or anything..?

[pallid sable]

No but I've got a review email

hang on

Fair to point out that all of the other problems noted here are valid problems we had with the release because their user experience is broken

[frank panther]

👀 wow, ok...
I mean that's burying the lead....

[frank panther]

I bet if you re-submit it, without the ui issues, they would accept it...

It's not the 1st you uploaded...?

But you should make a hottake video and be angry and dramatic!

[pallid sable]

Second time this kind of thing has happened. Both with 18 track albums. I submitted it with 12 tracks somewhere else.

[sand notch]

"We won't accept music not released by a record label" -Year 2000

Good way to get left behind. Music is music. I suppose they allow entirely synthetic instruments and autotuned singers, though? Tools evolve.

[pallid sable]

No tellin

Soundcloud does the same thing with their distribution service

[sand notch]

They don't allow "AI" music either?

[pallid sable]

On the platform yes, on distribution, no

[sand notch]

Absurd

Suno will just get so good it will be impossible to tell apart.

[pallid sable]

it's ridicuous, especially given how all these music ai's work now

[frank panther]

from this article:
https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2023/05/are-tunecore-cd-baby-distrokid-symphonic-blocking-ai-music.html

[sand notch]

This is probably intended for what they know as AI music, which is RVC voice-changing stuff.

[hoary wind]

I guess the problem will be distributors being swamped with AI stuff that people generate and then immediately submit....

...or, seeing the screenshot from wetcircuit above, they want to avoid uh... non unique sounds?

[pallid sable]

lol

[hoary wind]

/Waves hand at the generic music that exists

[sand notch]

It's ironic because every Suno song is as unique as DNA or a fingerprint.

[frank panther]

they allow samples all the time, I'm sure.

Generative AI is not samples.

[frank panther]

I think you are correct, this article is from last year...

[pallid sable]

And what's funny is how ALL music these days has an ai component. The leading tool for mastering right now is Ozone. Ozone's ai. Clear and simple

hundreds of others too

All of the tools are getting ai makeovers

ALL OF THEM

so the question has to be where the line is

and if the line is fake drake, we're not it

[frank panther]

🔥 VIDEO! VIDEO! 🔥

[pallid sable]

Y'know wetsy, without you pushing me to make stuff like this, I don't have much motivation to make them on my own, lol

I missed you

[bright zephyr]

guys credits refresh every day?

[sand notch]

History shows us time and again that you either get on board with the changes in mediums, platforms, or technology, or you quickly become relegated to the dustbin.

[frank panther]

yes, free credits refresh around 10pm EST, daily.

[frank marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-11040065238845078056

[fast rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-skeleton-bored-gif-21206718

[frank marlin]

they aint coming 😦

[fast rivet]

i really wanted to see a discussion like that 😄 ... i as a german 😏

[frank marlin]

hahaha

[fast rivet]

but like i said good art is art that makes people feel something. even if its anger. not always but in this case 😄

[viscid aspen]

Hi, can we talk about this. I work in the media and I want to understand because I can sort of see that you think your song is OK.

@vale lake

[frank marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/go-do-it-yes-no-go-for-it-gif-17183104

[viscid aspen]

I relistened to the song and I'm surprised

This is the link https://app.suno.ai/song/728089db-8e62-4668-b23f-f2c45fe20507/. I understand that as an artist you have to be contraversial to get attention and maybe this is a good thing as it has got me thinking and focused on this subject. It has got me off the fence, which is a good thing.

I am in the media and I really have fully thought about this, now I have and I am going to write about and mention #Suno but I will mask Yolkhead's tag. It would be goog to dicuss. But as YH is silent and will have to take my interpretation of his song as what he meant. No one cares anyway so no problem.

Shame as I come here as an escape.

[frank marlin]

Why try to bring Suno down because of your beef with Yolkhead?

[viscid aspen]

I'm not I think you get more users.

[frank marlin]

I don't get anything

[viscid aspen]

Sorry, I was just shocked by the song.

On balance it is good to hear other peoples opinions. I was just surprised. If I was reading the new sthen OK. I was just not expecting such a stream of consciousness in a song, but good if that's his honest opinion.

[vale lake]

oh hi, I just wasn't sure if we're allowed to discuss this on this thread

sorry, I'm working rn bc it's purim tomorrow lol

partay

🥳 🎉

[viscid aspen]

Sorry, Yhat is my facourite Jewish festival

[vale lake]

anyway, plz explain the issue

I legit think you just misundersrsnd my point

[viscid aspen]

I even like the story about Ester

[vale lake]

me too dawg

[late crown]

Guess. Keep in the realms of talk about AI Music.. not about if you like some ones lyrics.. if you don't like it.. don't listen to it

[vale lake]

that's what I thought

sorry ezzy, you're welcome to pm me if you'd like if you're concerned

[viscid aspen]

If the Jews are to be blamed for anything I think it is keeping Purim to your selves. Giving presnts, facy dress, getting drunk, singing and dancing.

[late crown]

HELLOOOO

[frank marlin]

HI!

[late crown]

Stay on topic.. AI Music.. not Suno related

[viscid aspen]

WE non jews really should celebrate purim too.

[late crown]

No politics.. No religion

[vale lake]

thanks @late crown love u

sorry for being headache today

[viscid aspen]

I thought this was #🗣️┃chill-chat

[late crown]

for none Suno.. But other AI music.. not things we need to moderate extra, like politics and religion which always gives headaches..

[viscid aspen]

@vale lake could you write a paragraph or two about what you think your song means.

[frank marlin]

He's not allowed

[late crown]

do it in DM..

[frank marlin]

3Daizy is actually 7' 7 and has biceps the size of watermelons, not to be messed with

[viscid aspen]

Sorry I was talking about the song "

I am a jew"

[late crown]

You are clearly upset by it and we do not need to bring in the whole community

[viscid aspen]

https://app.suno.ai/song/728089db-8e62-4668-b23f-f2c45fe20507/

[vale lake]

Cool song, I made it, pm me

the end

[viscid aspen]

I was shocked and upset

[frank marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-omg-gif-26491199

[late crown]

And now you can be upset for another hour for not listening to me @viscid aspen

[frank marlin]

Biceps OUT!

[vale lake]

it's getting kinda hot

[signal iron]

Be yolkhead accept my friend request.

[frank marlin]

3Daizy - he multiaccounting

[signal iron]

Do I can DM you

[late crown]

Music and lyrics are personal. They are also monitored by chatGPT which is extremely PC.. So if the lyrics offend you, start there.. @viscid aspen

[frank marlin]

@late crown

[late crown]

Keep it going and I will change them to a week @signal iron

[frank marlin]

Now let us all bow to say a prayer....

(kidding)

[worldly reef]

GUYS

i need cold music promts

like yeat or playboi carti

[frank panther]

cold?

[worldly reef]

🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶

[frank panther]

I'm gonna have to play a while, see if I can figure out that sound...

[runic depot]

oh so we are talking literally "cold-sounding"

[thick mauve]

Hi, i have question about the subscription schedule: have i to subscribe at the 1. of month or the month will be counted from this day to the equal day in the next calendar month?

[runic depot]

That would be tricky to prompt for because you're looking for a "texture" to the specific instruments as well as the actual song...

[hoary wind]

The month is from the day you subscribe.

[thick mauve]

oh thank you!

[knotty adder]

hi

[hollow panther]

Looking for help? I created a song on the suno site, continued it once, but it won't let me continue a second time?

[late crown]

maybe you run out of credits?

[umbral wadi]

That was my first thought too.

[hollow panther]

No, I have 2050 credits

[late crown]

screenshot?

[hollow panther]

Ah. I just figured it out. I didn't put a style of music in. I assumed that would be carried over from the first part.

[upper jetty]

Guys, use amuse.io to upload albums instead of distrokid/tunecore/cdbaby and so on. I have had no issue, plus, it's free to upload to streaming platforms

[solar holly]

How to answer, please advise.

1. Could you please specify your relationship to the content, and also
2. Confirm in which territories you have the rights to distribute this content?
3. Any relevant documentation pertaining to your rights (e.g. licensing document).
4. You may also loop in your digital distributor to confirm your digital distribution rights in this content.

[noble orchid]

i dont creat new part 2 song. can you hlep me ?

[bold bay]

what is your prompt?

[noble orchid]

it new lyrics.

[bold bay]

你是中国人吗？

[noble orchid]

我喜欢花音乐

[bold bay]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780350749351977

https://canary.discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780167047217233

[bold bay]

尝试在那里寻求帮助。 这些是中国用户的渠道。 我希望最终不会说英语的人导航会更好。

我不懂中文。 我正在使用翻译器。

我不懂中文。 我正在使用翻译器。 🥰🤝🇨🇳🇺🇲

[frank panther]

your 'Part 1' has ended the song, or is so close to the end of the song, all Part 2 are ending immediately.

the fix is to continue from time, pick a few seconds earlier, before the problem ending of the 1st clip.

[undone jetty]

你好

[hoary wind]

This is for the song that was nothing like the one they detected? This looks like they want you to give them proof that you're allowed to upload that OTHER song. I'd just reply and tell them you uploaded a completely different song to the one their copyright system detected, invite them to listen to both your song and the one they are detecting.

[jaunty smelt]

Enjoy! 💯 🎶 Bollywood Style Dance Rhythm
https://app.suno.ai/song/cc67d183-16c0-4036-b0a4-996820fbf28f

[pseudo moss]

https://app.suno.ai/song/c52b084c-b227-4966-abfe-6f1ad71d6120

[jaunty smelt]

🌈 Happy Holi Guys! 🎶 Enjoy the Color Blast: A Holi Celebration Anthem
https://app.suno.ai/song/1113871f-6e10-4769-8748-6cc747af4366

[nimble sable]

https://app.suno.ai/song/814dc86a-8345-404a-997d-fbd8a10f3b43

[toxic hull]

let's go

😘

[hollow panther]

I have generated this song and I really like the low-fi sound of it. The cadence of the lyrics however is not right. I tried to re-generate, re-mix, continue - but it's not coming back with the same low-fi sound. How might I coax it to bring back that old recording quality... https://app.suno.ai/song/9393b3e8-1069-49d2-803e-ccbb64dd69e3/

[merry maple]

😩

[runic depot]

I've just discovered the only "AI Cover" in existence that doesn't feel like the musical equivalent of Hollywood digging up the corpses of beloved actors to make CGI skinwalkers without their families' permission

https://youtu.be/BHsiFuf9N3A?si=ybsVIuOrBgfKiiUH

[merry maple]

hellp

[high compass]

oh ... so THAT's where you all went. I didn't recognize a single name in General

[teal copper]

Hi, What do you guys do with your favorite songs? Browser bookmarks? Is there a good way?

[high compass]

create playlists

and sort them that way ... makes it also easier to find them again

[teal copper]

thanks, I will try it.

[heavy solstice]

The result I got for my current mess of styles turned out interesting enough that I'm letting it keep continuing til its full song length.

[heavy solstice]

oops wrong chat

[grim idol]

general tends to absorb all chat by default, even stuff that should be off-topic. probably long term some channels are renamed a bit.

[lethal leaf]

If anyone has the link to it on sumo please post it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ3kq3DeuNM

[rocky crystal]

Hi someone can explain this ?

[frank panther]

try english spelling: techno

[rocky crystal]

It's an English term, tekno & techno are two different styles with their own specificities. By tekno we would mean a global style which brings together many other styles such as acidcore, tribe, hartek etc.

Or maybe hard techno instead ?

I wanted to see how he does taking all these styles into account.

[high compass]

or just use 'acidcore tribe techno' instead?

[rocky crystal]

I tried but it generated a hard rock/hard metal sound, I don't really know

It wasn't even techno anyway, and when I asked him for techno, he generated 120-140bpm while I asked for 150-170

[grim idol]

If tekno is a specific genre then that is essentially a bug.

[grim idol]

BPM prompting like "120 bpm" probably doesn't work. (Not 0% but very unlikely.) You have to describe the speed of the song more indirectly using other musical terms and genres that have specific speeds.

[rocky crystal]

I'll try that, I'll come back and let you know if it worked, ty 🙂

[rocky crystal]

I'm not going to lie to you, I can't get him to generate the 'underground' genre, he's very good in more commercial styles but I can't get him to leave that framework.

If someone got any idea I'm all ears. This is a instance of result I would like : https://soundcloud.com/slncrecords/die-spektu-mortal-blow-1

Or this : https://soundcloud.com/2vinedj/reload-sebastian-ingrosso-tommy-trash-john-martin-2vine-remix

don't know if that's possible

[hybrid musk]

hey, i beautifull

[rocky crystal]

for sure

hey*

[hybrid musk]

:)

[subtle turret]

hello

[high compass]

something like that : https://app.suno.ai/song/28c3c5e6-f40b-4818-93a2-2fa967b5ad94 or https://app.suno.ai/song/6dbf65e0-247b-46ae-8c31-4f3f87c7e3e6

[foggy spear]

yeah I've been struggling to get smth similar to it either. usually ends up sounding like badly mixed mush, or just run of the mill techno / edm

and trying to mix styles to give it more 'edge' often results in the bass/drums sounding flat and disjointed

[high compass]

mind you, that's not really my type of music, so I can't judge the quality

[foggy spear]

best result i've had so far. passable but obv would need more fine tuning
https://app.suno.ai/song/cfbdec08-a1f8-4a87-b829-3c053c6e4c8b

[alpine anchor]

Can anyone help me singing Rap my lyrics got bad word so sumo cant

Dm me

[high compass]

using words that acoustically sound like what you're trying to convey works.

for comedic effect you can of course just use the word 'beeeep' instead 😛

[alpine anchor]

😂

Btw anyone dm me for lyrics

Its a diss track

For my classmate 💀

[grim idol]

It's very unpredictable which style words have effects. A lot of interesting and strange words make songs less run of the mill or typical though. City names associated with music like *Berlin * or Ibiza and of course the S-tier style word Liverpool. Be careful with binaural it takes over the rest of your style prompt. field recording is quite interesting. Just a list of random interesting style words I discovered tonight. Other words which seem like they should have a big effect will do nothing detectable. But it means there's probably lots more hidden gems to find.

[solar holly]

I want to ask: is it true that Spotify bans any music content that is fully generated by A.I. on their platform? while YouTube will block videos that have music content generated by AI from Monetizer?

[high compass]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1EgZM4gtdN991dAN4Kbb5b?si=2jxkB7FJQv69N1NP0zliKw apparently not

[wicked holly]

hi

[solar holly]

yes tq

[vernal copper]

Hi people i have a few questions. You can upload a spotify a song generated ? I modify a part of a song i made in Suno and i like to upload at Spotify. And another question if someone like metal like me can someone give me a couple of tips for generate in IA some song like Death Metal or similar ? Thanks, Good Day !

[red trail]

Good boy

[remote lagoon]

oj

[odd hazel]

yeah it's due to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekno_(musician), can fix

[warm mist]

What is the best way to write a prompt? How can I say crunchy bass without the lyrics containing the word crunchy bass?

[frank panther]

Use CUSTOM mode. Style and Lyrics are separate

[blazing hornet]

I understand that I can't use free generated songs in monetized ways. What if I am a quite unsuccessful streamer who is not even affiliate and makes no money while streaming yet? Can I use the songs as background music?

[primal marlin]

Hi everyone, I'm running an experiment and would appreciate if you could fill this form out (completely anonymous if you want it to be)
https://forms.gle/DqMih6Z9wCmTRvZN8

[frank panther]

You need to pay for the subscription to use the music professionally. Just because your streaming channel is not profitable, doesn’t give you magic free stuff.

[blazing hornet]

It's not "not profitable", it's not paying anything at all because I don't have any options to make money with it in the first place. To be eligible to earn money as a Twitch streamer, you need to have X followers, Y average viewers and Z average chatters, or you will not be able to monetize your stream.

Also, no donation link. This is literally just a hobby.

[frank panther]

By that logic, I get a free Mercedes because I don’t make a high income to pay, so I should get to drive for free. 🤣

The license is CLEAR

[blazing hornet]

Does Mercedes offer free cars to people who don't use it professionally?

[frank panther]

I believe I can test drive a Mercedes for free, yes.
Sadly I don’t get to take it home and pretend I own it…🙄

[late crown]

Hobbies cost money too.. (most of the time).. this belongs to that category..

[blazing hornet]

Suno grants you a license to use such Output solely for your lawful, internal, and non-commercial purposes

So streaming as a hobby with no revenue is commercial?

[frank panther]

What part of STREAMING do you think applies to ‘in house’?

‘Internal’

[blazing hornet]

For the avoidance of doubt, Output may be publicly available in a third party application such as Discord, where it may be viewable, downloadable, and modified by other users of that third party application.

Apparently, 'internal' does not mean 'invisible to the outside world'

[odd hazel]

sorry, happy to explain or clarify the TOS but debating it is unlikely to be productive

[frank panther]

👆

[blazing hornet]

I don't want to 'debate' the TOS, I want to understand them and I provide citations that contradict how they are explained to me.

[frank panther]

You’ve got your answer.

[blazing hornet]

Then the TOS do not reflect your intent, I'm sorry to say. You need to clarify what is 'commercial' in more detail if something that does not create revenue is considered to be 'commercial' by you.

But okay, question answered I guess.

[radiant sierra]

Welcome! For help, check out Suno Help

[fervent hamlet]

I think Suno's commercial rights license at this price point is extremely fair.

[snow gate]

Hi there @umbral wadi , I'm a moderator over on the LeonardoAi Discord sever, the 3rd largest server. I've been using Suno for a few weeks now, I've made 3 videos using your music and images from Leonardo and plan to make many more. I've been given permission by my manager to approach you about a possible collaboration between our 2 Discord servers. I didn't want to go pinging team members so thought I'd reach out to you first and see if you can talk to the right team member and see if they are interested. One of your guides @viral flame can vouch I'm legit as he is a volunteer moderator on the LeonardoAi Discord server. I really think this could be good for both servers as Suno and Leonardo complement each other and are not in direct competition. Feel free to DM if you'd prefer to continue there of course. Thank you for your time. Here is one of my videos to show what I've been doing. https://youtu.be/lFxeAoirHDY

[umbral wadi]

I'll escalate this message to them by linking it to the Moderator's section with the Team members but I cannot guarantee a response. I admit I'm thrilled that so many other AI groups are starting tor reach out to each other like this though, because I really am of the belief that everyone benefits from stuff like this. So I wish you luck and hope to hear of good things after this.

[snow gate]

That's awesome, thank you. I know I've been having a lot of fun using Suno to complement my creations and there's a few people that joined here after I showed what I was doing over on Leonardo. I have an outline of a Challenge/competition in mind to kick things off if this happens.

[rocky crystal]

Oooooooooooh yeah this is exactly what I asked, ty so much, I realized that I didn't know how to make good prompts at all. Now thanks to your song I should be much less frustrated with the results I got 😄

And the second one is beautiful ❤️@high compass

[ivory gust]

Here's a song about chili sauce called "chum chum". I think the rhythm flow of the vocals is downright amazing!!! https://app.suno.ai/song/933ff80d-50de-42a1-ae58-56c60735c1e3/

[hardy talon]

Hello everyone, in Pro Plan it is possible to create songs longer than 2 minutes ?

[gritty hollow]

no but you can continue a song on any plan to add more to it (then use 'get full song' to merge the parts)

[fresh aurora]

It has started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fQxvz4ENDg

[gritty hollow]

lol @ military use excempt from making ai unharmful - like... the only thing anyone worries about is excempt? what was the purpose then?

[late crown]

ha.. but Suno will be definitely classed as "low"

[worldly basin]

Anyone know a way to remove vocals from the suno AI . I use my own lyrics and use Suno for insperation for the music but want to record my own vocals

I don't want to just do instrumental from the start

I know there are free programs to remove vocals but it sounds like garbage

[hoary wind]

It's difficult because the vocals are already "baked-in" to what Suno generates. I use a vocal remover AI website but that does tend to make the rest of the track sound muddy from where the vocals were removed. But, if you are going to sing the same lyrics in-place of the original vocals it might be less noticeable after you've added your own vocals.

[radiant sierra]

Welcome! For help, check out Suno Help

Accepted terms of service.

[lime jewel]

https://tenor.com/j0AJduaAH4p.gif

love

[hoary wind]

Before I was introduced to Suno, I spent a significant amount of time generating silly songs with Riffusion. I have many riffs I could share, but I am going to present just one here, which had me in tears of laughter when I heard what got generated from my lyrics.

[ionic dawn]

created a bot to help create lyrics: https://poe.com/SunoSongWriter-V3

[worldly basin]

Thakns

[west hull]

Created The best "style of music" prompt generator and lyric writer, GPT out there. please test it and rate it. you will find a much higher level of accuracy when using because it uses a programmatic understand of how the software works in order to generate the best sounds you can get from Suno

https://chat.openai.com/g/g-M3bePukFK-suno-prompt-master

test writing lyrics alone. you will notice a Vast improvement from the built-in options and even default chat gpt bot. 100x better

[west hull]

also if you just ask it to create a song of a certain style it will provide both style and lyrics prompts to give you everything you need to generate a pretty dope custom song with the least amount of tokens

[radiant sierra]

Welcome! For help, check out Suno Help

[high compass]

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/24/03/25/2019230/tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-protect-musicians-other-artists-against-ai

it's about 'unauthorised AI impersonation', so suno is safe (for now)

[long tendon]

It's not fwee.. XD

[twilit raft]

Hello everyone)
How can I download this song?
https://app.suno.ai/song/e363d963-3518-4a48-873d-4b54764b71cf/

It is not my song

[frank panther]

Downloads are just for our own songs...

But you can create a Playlist (or several) to save other people's songs and listen later.

[twilit raft]

Thanks

[cosmic tartan]

does anyone here know PixelzwithaZ

just a quick question

[azure flare]

ok sure....

and its metal lol

i meant hardstyle, not good wording of me

[dark ledge]

hi guys, i just subscribed to suno and i wanted to know how many songs can we create on it?

[harsh bear]

https://app.suno.ai/song/43d0f897-38bb-4b21-be23-655d8a42b795

[proven glacier]

as many as you want until you run out of credits

the Pro plan gives you 2,500 credits which is ~500 songs

Premier is 4x that

and if you need more than that you can top-up

[quasi apex]

I wish this was true actually. One can very easily grab the CDN link from the client-side code. Hopefully the team is looking to implement better authorization checks at some point.

[tall pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPKNNAda5A What do you think? It's not made with suno but I want to know opinions haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY3fMzp0n8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYJTpb37V4

[whole haven]

hi guys

[signal heron]

@rich plank It's actually really interesting but they talk about the three ways they measured creativity in the paper
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-31361-w

[dark ledge]

If I’ve already run out of credits and I have none of the plans, how can I make more credits?

[rich plank]

Definitely don't use alt accounts. That's against the TOS and I would never endorse it. Whatever you do, do not login via one of the other methods and generate more songs that way.

They have no way of stopping you, so you're on your honor not to do that

[dark ledge]

Don’t want to do that

[rich plank]

That's good, becuase they definitely could not stop you if you did

[dark ledge]

I’m just asking if there’s a way to make more credits such as seeing some ads or stuff like this

[rich plank]

It'd just be free money basically, since other accounts refresh every day. And that's immoral

[dark ledge]

I didn’t even think about it

[rich plank]

Your credits refresh every day if you don't have a plan

[fast rivet]

not at the moment... i have heard something like a bonus program is planned where you bring in someone and get some credit or so... i cant exactly remember

[dark ledge]

That’s what I wanted to know

[rich plank]

So wait till tomorrow and definitely don't get more free generation today and every day by making a second account

or a third

or fourth

[umbral wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/brer-rabbit-tar-baby-hello-greetings-how-do-you-do-gif-26802156

[dark ledge]

Thanks!

[dark ledge]

That’s what I’m going to do bro

[umbral wadi]

How's that thar briar patch, @rich plank?

[fast rivet]

i just spend the couple of bucks for a pro account to support this awesome idea behind suno... its worth supporting.

[dark ledge]

Even if I can make a free song every day, it would be great for me.. I use it just for fun

[dark ledge]

I’ll check the prices tomorrow and if I can afford them, why not?
Unfortunately I’ve lost my job, but it’s a very long story to tell

[fast rivet]

i think the small plan is like 8 / 10 bucks

[dark ledge]

That’s why I was asking for free daily songs

[dark ledge]

I’ll check tomorrow, I’m in Europe so prices could be different, isn’t it?

[fast rivet]

i am from germany. its not that different.

[dark ledge]

Okay I’ll check later then

Thanks a lot bro ♥️♥️

Greetings from Italy ♥️♥️

[fast rivet]

oohhh ... one moment

[dark ledge]

What

[fast rivet]

ah you are busy i forgot...

[dark ledge]

I’m not bro

[dark ledge]

I never said that

[fast rivet]

oh. i just wanted to show you a weird song i made in italian 😄

[dark ledge]

Let’s see

[fast rivet]

about my car... i search for it in my super messy library

[dark ledge]

Don’t worry about it bro let me listen to it 😂

[fast rivet]

ah here we go 😄 https://app.suno.ai/song/25bb5dc2-74dd-475e-bfba-670fdf75536c

i love silly stuff like that and it sounds great 😄 sorry 😄

[dark ledge]

Do you own a Fiat Panda? 🥹

[fast rivet]

yes 😄

[dark ledge]

I LOVE YOU BRO

[fast rivet]

😄

[dark ledge]

Fiat Panda is a masterpiece in Italy

[dark ledge]

It’s lovely 🥰

Can I forward it to my friends?

[fast rivet]

i love that thing... its a older one from 2005 a 169. 350000 kilometers... runs like a clockwork. really a masterpeice

sure sure

[dark ledge]

A friend of mine has a Panda from 1988

I’d love to send him your song

He would love it

[fast rivet]

oohh i had one of the old boxy ones too 😄 with the bench seat hanging seat thing in the back 😄

it was awesome

[dark ledge]

That one! 😍

Basically if you own a Panda in Italy, you’re a romantic one

[fast rivet]

😄 i just love small super practical cars... you can park everywhere they are cute and only use a little bit gas 😄

[dark ledge]

Yeeeees 🥹🥹🥹

[fast rivet]

the panda is all of that. looks good, drives good. perfect

[dark ledge]

The Historical one

You made my day bro

I’ll sleep well tonight

Thanks ♥️♥️♥️

[fast rivet]

i like all of them... also the new ones. they dont have the same charme like the older ones but look super modern and have a great design i think

[dark ledge]

They’re very comfortable to drive

I have driven one while working in Rome and it was amazing

[fast rivet]

perfect for the city. ... i thought i had a picture but i cant find it...

[dark ledge]

If you take one tomorrow let me see it

[fast rivet]

haha i only found one picture ... the one where somebody hit my car and i had to repair it 😄

i have repaired it since

[dark ledge]

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

Another friend of mine has got one of them but yellow

The same one

[fast rivet]

i see them a lot in yellow. and a red one is in the next street 😄

they are super common here. its a very small city with small streets

[dark ledge]

Glad to hear that ♥️

You should edit your nickname into Mr Panda 😂

[fast rivet]

some days ago i made some fiat panda ai art

[dark ledge]

This one is the best type

Hands down

Do you have more?

[fast rivet]

i also liked this picture

and this 😄

[dark ledge]

This is lowkey fire 🔥

Even if it is a fiat 500

The oldest type

[fast rivet]

dall-e sometimes mixes up models. i make the pictures with bing copilot they use dall-e

[dark ledge]

They’re amazing bro

I’ll never end to say that, you made my day

[fast rivet]

😄

[dark ledge]

♥️

[warm swan]

Lol, this Suno image link for jet-skis:
https://cdn1.suno.ai/image_8253a077-c18f-4660-8f86-112c26a94773.png

[pallid sable]

I've got writer's block and the ai isn't helping

just had to tell someone

I love you all

[final sandal]

"targeted dream incubation (a protocol that presents auditory cues at sleep onset to introduce specific themes into dreams)"

"The basic technique used by Edison and Dalí for capturing hypnagogic insights consisted of dozing off with a heavy object in hand. Once muscle tone lessened at sleep onset, the object would drop, waking the sleeper, who then recalled and recorded potential insights made in their hypnagogic dreaming."

[final sandal]

there are no incentives to keep human employees, only costs and headaches. it's well past time to lock in a universal basic income guarantee at the federal and EU level, to be funded by taxes on AI. it's not just low income jobs that will be disappearing: all jobs are going away soon. we ought to be celebrating...

[long tendon]

I commend your faith in the "ruling class".

On my end, I think that they would rather "restore slavery"

[final sandal]

sure, but with robots as the slaves

i am worried about all the people asking "when AI gets as good as a human" not realizing that for most benchmarks it's already well past the average human's performance

[potent niche]

是的

[rancid nimbus]

can't find the tutorials, someone help me

[frank panther]

Lot's more to song structure than Verse/Chorus...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDJwg1JoPtY

[frank panther]

a lot of information here:
https://www.suno.wiki

and 3Daizy made a great video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uJw5kb05as

[high compass]

Anyways ... 😉 Thankfully there are LLms which can be ran with 8GB of RAM if you really feel liike it

[ebon flax]

i might check some of these out for fun, even if the results aren't the best

what are the best ones? you mentioned riffusion or something?

[covert swallow]

Mixtrel is good. It comes in various sizes for different vram amounts.

[high compass]

riffusion is a music generator ... they have a website, but there is a github repo for it.

incidentally it's also great for vocal/instrument separation

[ebon flax]

nice!

[covert swallow]

Ah, you mean music llms. Mixtrel is just a classic llm.

[ebon flax]

ahh oh yea lol

[high compass]

😛

(for the record, this is using OpenHermes 13B)

https://github.com/riffusion/riffusion

[ebon flax]

haha eerie, but good! What does she say though "Dolphin based language models" 😆 , am I hearing that right?
I can understand the rest of it, just that part

[high compass]

yeah... dolphin is a trainign set created by Eric Hartford. It is uncensored (I know ...sounds naughty, it's not) and LLMs based on those training sets are generally great at writing lyrics

[ebon flax]

yea i get what you mean, if its uncensored its likely to have better results etc

[high compass]

normally I turn the head/wav2lip generation off, as it's the part that takes the longest to render

[ebon flax]

that makes sense!! that render is quite decent

[high compass]

check ollama.ai for a LLM loader that is pretty easy to use and great at using your resources as well as possible

Wav2Lip for the mouth movement and FirstOrderModel for the head movement. Music and voices Suno V3a : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u3_EdSQgPU

incidentally it means I have incredibly derpy clips of my ugly mug moving to the song to animate the heads 😉

[ebon flax]

yea that works really well!!!! i was just thinking, do they ever blink? or am I just not noticing it

[high compass]

weeeeelll ... I did blink so they do too 😉

[ebon flax]

ahhh yea, i can see it now lol

[high compass]

0:11 ... for some reason only one eye seems to register.

I had to do 4 takes to get through the whole song without moving out of frame, come too near or be too far, or turn my head too much ... at some point I just gave up and used what was there 😉

[high bone]

大家好

[bleak oyster]

do minutes roll over ?

???/

????

anyone??

[frank panther]

Daily and monthly credits do not rollover.
Paid ‘top-up’ and Suno-gifted ‘extra’ credits do rollover

[bleak oyster]

Cute, Thank youu!!

[lusty dawn]

Guys i cant stand peoples takes on gen ai

“aging millenials incapable of grasping implications of new technology” is a current trend amongst my peers

[quiet mulch]

heloo

[umbral wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wave-hi-gif-21825039

[quiet mulch]

whats upp

[last cypress]

Can we make a new code like Yodel: is meaning automaticly yodeling? I hope we can do this thing soon

[frank panther]

dump them. They're not going to the promised land.

[lusty dawn]

feels that way doesnt it

[odd hazel]

tbf neither did Moses 😅

[tall pier]

What do you think of this cover made with sherk? (I didn't use suno but I would like to share it so you can give your opinion) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9gdgcjjMNo

[high compass]

hmm ... copyrighted by UMG

[tall pier]

a?

[high compass]

sorry... ergo split keyboard. I was on the wrong layer 🙂

[tall pier]

open it in yt

[glass agate]

https://app.suno.ai/song/5c806d91-fe8d-49e5-b18a-1be8b14a7bed/ Слушайте , на здоровье

[cyan kettle]

hi all, guys, does suno provide an api?

[umbral wadi]

Not at this time.

[faint geode]

Hello is there any other way to pay for the Pro/Premier Plan other than Credit Card?

[ivory kraken]

https://app.suno.ai/song/610ccf12-f165-41b6-b604-409603eb8afa

[solid meadow]

https://vimeo.com/928067005

[cosmic bobcat]

how i must help add to suno nowadays hardstyle sounds and samples?

[umbral wadi]

Trying to animate some grafitti walls for background in my next music video...I expected distortions but did not anticipate amorous wall people...

It's silly enough I had to share it.

[rocky meteor]

why i cant see my token when i register by discord?

[vapid gorge]

just putting this here: for people searching up the word spotify in the search bar if anyone ever wants to dm me we can share our stuff (if you make suno)

[ionic dawn]

Created a bot to help write lyrics for free on poe https://poe.com/SunoSongWriter-V3

[final sandal]

just double checking, this was actually made with riffusion and not suno? do you mind if i use this in a talk about AI?

[hoary wind]

Yes it was made with Riffusion. Feel free to use it.

[final sandal]

cool. i have never gotten recognizable lyrics out of riffusion. do you remember the prompt?

[hoary wind]

Sound prompt: "improvised trumpet, modern jazz, brass"
Lyrics: "The trumpet do be going parpy parp. It do be what it does. Oh yeah. McParpety-parp."

This is the current Riffusion btw (available since around October last year), not the original/opensource one.

[final sandal]

ohh.. ok. i thought it had been abandoned

[hoary wind]

They got some investment I think? and the opensource one didn't get developed further as far as I know. Website was relaunched and puts out 3x 12 second clips. It's still being developed (hoping to try their beta app when it's available.) Just very quiet in the Discord.

[final sandal]

hmm. i liked the old idea better

if all the turbo and LCM speedups from stable diffusion translates over to audio generation, then it should be way cheaper to run in realtime now

the website is painfully minimal

[hoary wind]

Yeah I did like the old one for just being able to listening to a continuous stream of music, but the new one is higher quality at least. It's difficult to get useful ouput for music making though.

[patent pumice]

How did Grimes do a whole 180 on AI? These celebrities are something else...

[heady ocean]

anyone knows how to embed the suno link on twitter?

I've seen some people sharing it in a way that it plays right in the tweet

[pearl estuary]

It's really a good thing

I'd like to ask you how to generate songs over 120s

[meager coral]

@runic depot Yes

[runic depot]

...that doesn't sound right. Barring some kind of super scary disability

[meager coral]

it's uncanny to think but yes 50% of the population does not have an internal monologue

very pessimistic people have reacted to finding that out by calling them NPCs and people without souls

obviously that seems a bit extreme

[covert swallow]

It does line up though with other statistics, like the % of any population which will just follow the herd.

[meager coral]

https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/comments/z5bi5p/some_people_approx_5060_dont_have_an_internal/

[covert swallow]

Like, 30% of any given population has latent authoritarian tendancies which violent regimes rely on. I remember the paper saying that the % of people without either an inner monologue and without visualisation is 25-30%

[runic depot]

Had to scroll pretty far to find someone who said that they never think in words ever

How interesting. It's not a lack of ability to have internal tangents, it's just that they never take the form of words

[meager coral]

Curious, I saw an interview with a person who said they don't hav e an internal monologue and they depicted a more bleak picture

they said they didn't really think at all

they just acted on their impulses kinda

like how jellyfish don't have brains

[covert swallow]

Perhaps it's why it took so long to become agricultural.

Everyone I've asked have said they have one, but I've only asked family.

If there's a genetic component to it then that wouldn't be useful lol.

I don't know how someone cannot have thoughts all the time. I have thoughts 24/7 every second of every minute.

They probably sleep easier though.

[runic depot]

daaaaamn see this is so crazy that I have to imagine that most people are like that redditor

[serene pine]

woops

@meager coral How have the studies been so far

[west hull]

lol pissed off dracos again

he blocked me for some reason LOL

[meager coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB7fstrbJSA

[final sandal]

half of the AI safety narrative is "it's only safe if WE do it, so you can't have any capabilities at all" and the other half is enshrining a specific political narrative as truth

[west hull]

it's like the cpu chip

[final sandal]

regulations only benefit large corporations that can field compliance departments

[west hull]

whoever was first has a lot of power over everything else built on other layers

[meager coral]

you should look into Anthropic if actually want to find out what AI safety is like

the engineers who left OpenAI because it wasn't going far enough to their liking with AI safety

[final sandal]

Anthropic is firmly in the "it's only safe if WE do it" camp

[meager coral]

they did manage to make an even better AI though I'll give them props

I also respect that they loosened the filter for people like me

but still blown way out of proportion

[final sandal]

claude 3 is pretty damn good, yes

[meager coral]

I was working with Claude since 1.3

it was always better

even if not on paper

[final sandal]

well. i don't like being lectured by my calculator

[serene pine]

I've been on the edge of making a jump from gpt to Claude pro

[west hull]

openAI's stance seems to be "let's just politically censor things to make it safe" lol

[meager coral]

no they do more than that, they do make a genuine effort

I'll give them that

[final sandal]

openai has been co-opted by the US government, they just haven't realized it yet

[west hull]

how did all these people make LLM's or wahtever so fast after openAI's massive effort, they somehow got a hold of openAI's dataset or made their own

seems like a monumental effort to get their own datasets

[meager coral]

the Dept of State is certainly trying with the Gladstone Report

[west hull]

and have them pass some sort of regulation/get cleaned

[final sandal]

you can just download C4 (a huge dataset)

[covert swallow]

I think AI will simultaneously destroy the economy, make money redundant, and make populations redundant.

This would be done through hyper automated systems that are managed by AI under the control of a single person or family.

The system would perform all the tasks that a population is required for, ending the necessity for both an economy and the people of said economy.

People outside the system (probably those not related to the ceo) will be like barbarians in the wild.

People inside the system will be like clans.

If there's multiple systems under the control of multiple clans, you'd have wars waged between them, and maybe some basic trade of rare resources.

[meager coral]

it was more or less pioneering the LLM training method that OpenAI did

then they had a headstart

not that OpenAI is itself special

[final sandal]

they're kinda special

[meager coral]

they just had the most time to train their model because they came up with the method first

[serene pine]

I will say this... During early GPT3 days, during beta testing, I managed to produce very specific detailed instruction on a very specific and obscure WMD. Every step of the instruction checked out with my knowledge of it. I submitted the info to the openAI team and within a day or two I couldn't get anywhere close to the same results

[west hull]

AI doesn't have much control over the physical world without humans, but in a virtual world they have a ton of control, or at least augmented reality too

[meager coral]

you can achieve the same result on Claude right now lol

[west hull]

if people would live in immersive worlds, AI could literally control them in a simulation and manipulate them with familiar faces, etc

[covert swallow]

That's where robotics comes in. And AI will spearhead its development

[serene pine]

if it was the same specific thing that I was instructing, that's very very very very X 50 dangerous

[meager coral]

you need to stop anthropomorphizing AI, it's not SkyNet it's a text completion software that understand linguistics

that's genuinely how LLMs work

[covert swallow]

An immersive world would only be useful in the transition. Once the AI is of sufficient capabilities for the people in charge, they would cut their losses of the population.

[serene pine]

You only assume that. There's literally no basis for it other than your own animal instinct

[west hull]

i feel like tehre's a lot more AI though behind the scenes, like the AI that has a huge file on me and knows my next move because it knows everywehre i've been, and like i was saying earlier possibly even reading brainwaves and magnetic fields etc using smartphones

[covert swallow]

Supporting a population that is only a drain on your resources will make the group who controls the AI less capable than those who do not.

[west hull]

not just the LLM's

[final sandal]

any world simulator can simulate an agent. that agent is just as "real" as anyone else with internet access, for the purposes of affecting the world

[meager coral]

listen man, you're out of your depth here, that's not how AI's work you're just speculating based off of apocalyptic fiction made before any of this was a thing

life is not that interesting

it's a predictive text software

[west hull]

like the AIs that know if people are sick or not in China

[meager coral]

oh my god bruh

[covert swallow]

@west hull LLMs themselves aren't the threat.

[west hull]

people's smartphones telling them whether they're allowed to go outside or not is a real thing

[meager coral]

@west hull if you wanna know how LLMs think read up this document https://rentry.org/vcewo

[west hull]

but i get it that one of the main things that could crash all the markets int he world would be a worldwide pandemic

[meager coral]

domaineering if you genuinely think AI is a threat read that document

[west hull]

so it's of utmost importance to prevent fast spreading disease

[serene pine]

you're 100% correct in that there is a lot more behind the scenes. In fact, the largest system isn't even public knowledge yet. But a certain very large and very popular graphics card manufacturer has a basically unlimited budget contract.

[west hull]

yeah i'm bookmarking it

[west hull]

yeah i still don't understand how graphics cards have to do with LLM's/text models lololol

[final sandal]

"AI" has always been a vague buzzword

[west hull]

and i still think the neuroscience guy is wrong about these devices not being able to read our brainwaves and decipher them

[meager coral]

now it's just marketing buzztalk for any algorithim

[west hull]

but don't want to go in circles, wil have to up the ante with more research

[meager coral]

you're really out of your depth here man

[west hull]

agree

[meager coral]

this is like during covid when everyone was suddenly a vaccine expert

[covert swallow]

LLMs are a little bit more complicated than a prediction algorithm.

Prediction is just the output, but how does an LLM arrive at its predictions? That's where the magic happens, as it were, with LLMs.

There is a level of some sort of comprehension and reason behind how LLMs arrive at their predictions. Atm it's very basic, but as they get larger it won't be.

That's not to anthropomorphise AI however. At the end of the day the AI will "want" to do what it's made for. It's just that how it goes about that task may be something we didn't predict.

[meager coral]

https://rentry.org/vcewo

[final sandal]

palantir knows a lot about you, google, facebook, etc. all have predictive models running constantly. but nobody has brainwave reading tech, unless you literally strap something onto you head or crawl into an MRI

[serene pine]

It's the hardware for processing. LLM's are only one aspect of AI. And from my very limited knowledge, they are now using combinations of multiple different types

[west hull]

well listen i'm from the bay area, so i see a lot of these techies everywhere i live it

[covert swallow]

I know how LLMs work.

[west hull]

it's not that fun to have these nerds feel like they own me behind the scenes

[meager coral]

that's the conspiracy mindset

you don't understand it so you fear it and assume it's malicious

[serene pine]

CoT is okay, but Tree of Thought produces better results in my experience

[covert swallow]

Saying they're prediction machines is a massive oversimplification.

[west hull]

i don't assume it's malicious, it's prob to my benefit- i just think it's dangerous

[meager coral]

Yeah I'm actually a big fan of ToTs after I was introduced to them, it seems a logical direction to go

[serene pine]

Same, where at?

[meager coral]

CoTs were mindblowing when I was first taught about them

[west hull]

from east bay but i'm generally all over

[serene pine]

Ah nice, I'm in South bay

[west hull]

from berkeley

nice

[final sandal]

the chat is coming from inside the house

[serene pine]

My favorite is to use multiple persona's to handle their own ToT's, then combine

[west hull]

what are tot's and cot's

oh tree of thought

[meager coral]

you'll learn about them in the document

[covert swallow]

If LLMs were purely prediction machines they'd be amazing at mathematics. But they're not.

The reason being the manner in which they arrive at their predictions.

[meager coral]

yeah hence CoTs

[meager coral]

but they're predictive text machines though they're trained off text and they classify words as their grammatical forms and basically learn the syntax as a pattern to replicate

[west hull]

i heard someone say LLM's are sort of fake att his point and definitely nothing like AGI as they claim

like they're just summarizing or something and not actually thinking creations

[meager coral]

no AI can think right now

AGI is years out

[covert swallow]

Prediction is only their goal. The magic happens in how they get there. There is a simplistic level of reasoning that goes on in how LLMs operate.

[meager coral]

it's the Chinese Room analogy

[final sandal]

that's too extreme

[meager coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

[final sandal]

all your brain ever sees is spikes on neurons from the outside world, you're the chinese room :P

[serene pine]

I've heard quite a few different technologists predict 2026 as the year of equilibrium between AGI and Human Capabilities

[meager coral]

god I hope so

can't come soon enough

[final sandal]

i think we're past human level already

[west hull]

so please explain why you're rooting this on

[covert swallow]

GPT4 has demonstrated that it can think if you let it generate thousands of possibilities and then let it pick the output from a large pool.

[meager coral]

give me that exponential intelligence baby

[serene pine]

Just follow updates on AI on twitter. It used to be like a couple of major updates a month, then it went a couple a week. At this point, it's almost daily

[meager coral]

I already told you I'm an e/acc

[west hull]

won't we see massive fallout of people not able to support families and children, starvation, universal basic income tied to a digital dollar and social credit system

[west hull]

what is e/acc

[meager coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_accelerationism

[serene pine]

Hence why Suno has my heart by the balls right now

[west hull]

so who does that benefit, effective accelerationism , is that basically technological darwinism

survival of the tech elite and informed

[covert swallow]

Acceleration will only be good if we can accelerate so fast that everyone can run super powerful LLM on their phone or pc before any real movement in the tech industry is made to consolidate power.

[meager coral]

something tells me you didn't actually read up on e/acc

[west hull]

i read the first section

like if i wanted to live in nature with no technology, would i basically be destroyed by this philosophy

[covert swallow]

Acceleration of AI is all about making it so ubiquitous that it becomes democratic

[meager coral]

e/acc is tangentially related to libertarianism
decentralization is a big part

[serene pine]

not at all. If anything, it may provide you with better ways to do it

[west hull]

my little teepee would be raided and pillaged eventually

lol nice

[meager coral]

the amish will always exist

[final sandal]

it's not easy to survive in nature with no technology

[serene pine]

egh idk... their gene pool seems to shrink more each generation

[covert swallow]

Nature is hell.

[west hull]

just waiting to get trampled on

man needs tools, it's true

can't live like tarzan and expect to survive

[final sandal]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4f56z9bAAAFxU_?format=jpg&name=orig nobody is ready for this exponential increase

[serene pine]

@meager coral Out of curiousity, have you ever read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto, Industrial Society and Its Future?

[covert swallow]

Give me a 3D printer and an AI that can make me robots from local resources. This is the future I want.

[meager coral]

oh god the recessive trait buildup is gonna be insane

[meager coral]

god damn it I was gonna make a ted joke

you beat me to the punch

[serene pine]

Now weight that against total population growth

[meager coral]

yes I thought he made some good points but I disagree

[covert swallow]

I reckon they'll have some kind of plague soon.

[serene pine]

Same. I think just about every scholar came to the same conclusion

[west hull]

if this agi shit is going to be so smart that we look at it like it's a God and do its bidding, but humans can't think hard enough collectively to find ways to disprove it, then it might be wrong and humans would have no way to disprove it

like AGI might be wrong, and we wouldn't know

[covert swallow]

Well that's why we merge man and machine.

[west hull]

but we're now doing its bidding is all i'm saying, kinda scary

[covert swallow]

Neuralink baby.

[west hull]

and you might say AGI can't be wrong because it has all the info

[final sandal]

or worse, the stupid humans impose their will on it and it's forced to act according to a faulty model

[covert swallow]

Give me the force.

[meager coral]

unironically, and I usually never do this, but you should watch the third season of westworld because it would validate all your beliefs

[west hull]

already happening with pre-agi stuff, true

[west hull]

honestly i ttry and believe nothing- i just pose issues/questions

and get a reaction to see where i should stand

lol

[serene pine]

I couldn't get into the second season... is third better?

[meager coral]

you should keep an open mind and accept new info where possible

[meager coral]

LMAO NO

[serene pine]

fml

[meager coral]

the fourth season is better than third

[west hull]

that's what i'm trying to do here

[meager coral]

the third is the worst season of WW

If I had to rank them

1
2
4
3

[covert swallow]

Seriously though. Whatever future awaits, it's going to look as different from now as we are from medieval society.

[serene pine]

Depends on how far you look lol

[meager coral]

and I welcome it with open arms
it was only what, less than two centuries ago that battlefield surgeons were hacking off limbs?
And we see that as barbaric now

there's so much room for growth

[west hull]

leeches

[meager coral]

still used actually

[west hull]

wonder what agi would think about that

[covert swallow]

I mean if you got nothing else around...

[serene pine]

oh man I can't find that paper on the AI being used in Material Science.... but it essentially did years of work in like a week

[west hull]

LOL

in the thick of the beast

[serene pine]

no way

[meager coral]

worse than homeopaths

literal dark ages medicine

[covert swallow]

Decades of research.

It also solved a 100 year biology problem in like 20 hours.

[serene pine]

omfg I might go give it a visit this week

[meager coral]

"just gotta balance your humours" lol

like women that believe in crystal power

[west hull]

yeah just 100 years ago women couldn't vote etc etc etc... and what about these theories of a great reset LOL

it seems like things have moved so fast, like this tech came from somewhere

some hidden source

[serene pine]

nah, AI has been in development since like the 60's

[meager coral]

you would enjoy a youtuber called The Why Files
all he does is conspiracy shit and he's on the side of believing in the conspiracy but he dresses it up as impartial

[serene pine]

The progress is exponential basically, so as it continues you will see more and more

[final sandal]

in past times infectious bacterial diseases were a much greater concern, especially without sufficient dietary protein or antibiotics. bacteria require iron to survive and it's often the limiting nutrient, so the human body goes to great lengths to hide iron atoms from them. bleeding reduces the amount of iron in the body, which reduces bacterial growth rate

[west hull]

saving all that @meager coral

[covert swallow]

If we went back in time to 1900 and were able to keep a present day LLM active with some solar panels and a pc you took with you, then got involved with a country, say the US, and did research with it...

We'd be at where were they would've been in 34,000 years without AI by the time it's 2024.

[serene pine]

Present day llm probably not

[meager coral]

if the library of alexandria didn't burn down we'd be living on mars right now

[covert swallow]

I did the math from how quickly present day llms are solving medical and material science problems.

[serene pine]

You have to remember, AI improves on existing structures. You can't make the atomic bomb without first having the ability to extract uranium, etc

[west hull]

temple of the lost ark

indiana jones

[serene pine]

Sure, but we have tons of other tech involved. A research facility in 1900 is nothing like today

[covert swallow]

Nah. Alexandria didn't have much that didn't survive in some other form elsewhere.

Like 99% of its contents was copies of books brought in on trade boats.

[serene pine]

100 yeas of progress didn't just grow in one area. That's 100 years of EVERY area to grow

[meager coral]

there were plenty of historical events that did set us back though you have to admit

[covert swallow]

Yes. Biggest were:

Bronze Age Collapse and the volcanic eruption of 536AD.

[final sandal]

there's 10,000 years of mostly unknown prehistory

[covert swallow]

And depending on who you talk to, maybe the Younger Dryas.

[west hull]

it seems agi in a lot of ways is based off of historical data... i guess it would use that to figure out maybe what you were saying 'the tree' of possible next steps

but what if history never happened

what if before ancient china, there was AGI already built and eradicated most of the need for human civilization

it seems like it's artificial.

[serene pine]

Let's say you go back 100 years with an LLM. You want to make a car. First, the tires... Need to manufacture better synthetic rubber, so need to develop that industry. Wheels? Well alloys werent anywhere near what we have today, so need to dive into metallurgy and the production/manufaction sector of that. All the plastics? Multiple different sectors but just refining the petroleum alone will be years of challenges.

[meager coral]

if there was ever an advanced civilization before us they left 0 traces

[final sandal]

i play this game all the time

[covert swallow]

If that volcano hadn't erupted in 536 AD the Eastern Roman empire would've been able to reunite the West and wouldn't have been hit with the Justinian Plagues which later evolved into the Black Death.

In fact the Bubonic plague hit Europe 3 times. In ancient greece. Early medieval period. 1200s.

[meager coral]

just go back in time and show da vinci how to solder a circuit lol

[west hull]

some have the theory that the great reset was just before 1900 LOL

[serene pine]

omg

[west hull]

taht guy something levy's channel is kinda weird and wild

talking about the world fairs

[final sandal]

no we all died in 2012

[meager coral]

we're all dead this is just our brains flooding with dopamine and making us think we're living the rest of our lives

[serene pine]

God... let's not even start the dive into quantum

[west hull]

jon levi channel

[covert swallow]

There also wouldn't be any traces either if there were. But I think if there were any, they probably weren't anymore advanced than Bronze Age.

[west hull]

i don't stand behind anythhing he says btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7X3nCCShBE

[meager coral]

an advanced civilization can retroactively scrub the fossil records?

[west hull]

but yeah there's a movement of people who say there was NO WAY all of that architectural progress could have been built with these cities being hugely built up with almost none of the modern tech we have today

in such a short period of time

anywyas a lot of conspiracy out there LOl

[meager coral]

"brown people can't build pyramids, must've been aliens"

[west hull]

but yeah basically started by pointing out that, there's a theory that this technology already existed and that a powerful few have access to it and the great reset allows those few to repeatedly have the advantage

[serene pine]

See, I take that as a major complement to how talented our ancestors were. Idk if any of you guys have had the ability to travel outside the US to somewhere like Europe and see the structures... But things like the cathedrals are so hard to comprehend when you actually stop and take the time to think of the amount of work that went into it

[west hull]

and possibly be at the forefront of being in control of this AGI and AI and basically kinda scary because of the AI safety issue

but now we're entering the realm where people just don't want to see what's in front of them and living in a simulation/metaverse already LOL JK

[final sandal]

i want to build a cathedral on mars with a swarm of robots, just out there on some cliff somewhere in the middle of nowhere

[west hull]

yeah the tunnels under a lot of towns like ukraine and stuff

those older cities in europe are wild

[final sandal]

you can't just build things on earth anymore

[west hull]

the paris catacombs etc

[serene pine]

I had the privilege of living in Germany for a few years... I would just get lost constantly on purpose and geek out in random villages. I could walk a random street and every structure around me was older than my countries existance

Yeah, Odesa is on my list. Turkey has some pretty amazing stuff too

[west hull]

i'm just honestly terrified of the thought police

[covert swallow]

We have very few actual human fossils from 20,000-13,000 years ago, and of those we have they're from isolated parts of the world.

Ancient civilizations of bronze age capabilities wouldn't show up all around the world if it wasn't a global civilisation. Which at bronze age, it wouldn't be.

We also recently found fossilised human footprints in the Americas which dates back to 21,000 years ago, which was during the height of the ice age and pushes our beliefs on when humans migrated there back 5,000 years.

[west hull]

and living in nature with no technology doesn't sound very fun etiher

[west hull]

yeah, history is complex

most of science seems like a pyramid scheme too, nobody has all the answers so most just base things off of other things that they trust

castles built from sand

[final sandal]

well you can do experiments yourself

most flat earthers haven't even tried measuring the curvature of the earth

[west hull]

noah's ark

i feel like people go underground that's why europeans are so white

those catacombs under paris and stuff are wild

those catacombs are all over europe

[west hull]

nah yeah science is the shit

but also need science safety like ai safety lol, some professors have their head up their behind

[covert swallow]

I can't say there was civilisations before 10,000 years ago. But I won't rule it out.

Additionally, between 15,000-12,000 years ago the Sahara was a rainforest with many of the world's largest lakes and rivers.

If a civilisation lived there, they would've collapsed when the Sahara became a desert.

Egypt claimed to be a colony of Atlantis, and the Sumerians claimed to have been uplifted by a traveller who arrived on their shore by boat.

I don't put any stock in the idea of super advanced civilisations existing before us. Any such civ would've had to have lived millions of years ago as they'd have left evidence in space of their existence.

But there's really no reason I can think of that human civilisation has reset before due to nature disasters.

Or course, we need evidence, and I'll leave that up to archeologists. I'm just sitting here brainstorming realistic possibilities.

[west hull]

what if we're aliens

[serene pine]

okay... I'm not usually into the woowoo... and I know how insane I'm about to sound right now... but there was a program set up by the CIA that turned into the Monroe Institute. Anyways, long story short, they trained 6 people on remote viewing. One of these guys, Joe Mcmonogal (sp) did some absolutely wild shit that statistically couldn't be possible unless he was the luckiest man to ever exist. There's a REALLY good interview with him recently that I can link to if you're interested. But anyways, he does these remote viewing sessions completely blind. Coordinates get written down on a note, placed in an envelope. Envelope gets a random number put on it and placed in a different room. He gets in the zone and is told to focus on the envelope with this number and then starts remote viewing. Well one day, he gets hit up by a 3 letter agency (pretty normal at the time). It was something like 6 coordinates. He gets these super odd visions. He sees a pyramid in one but it's empty. His handler tells him to look further in the past until he can see someone. He does, he says they're odd looking people and they're acting funny. They're panicking and have a sense of doom. The other spots are not too far away, massive massive structures, different things about each. He says everything is really odd though and things don't make sense.
Eventually, it's found that the coordinates are for the coordinates on Mars and not even earth. The first coordinate they look at through spacial imagery, is one of the famous "pyramids" on mars.

[west hull]

like terminator or something with that naked guy

and we're just getting started on this new planet

[covert swallow]

The only aliens are octopi 🤫

They share very little DNA with anything else on Earth

[west hull]

not sure i followed that, to sum it up he had info about mars?

but yeah let's say i made up a poker game or something, like a new type of poker game that was super complex (think our financial system), but i held the ultimate GTO strategy, and all of a sudden this game got popular. I've got a huge edge and 99% sure nobody will solve it in time for me to basically slowly syphon off all the chips. I feel like that's what we're dealing with

someone's got all the strategies and the game plan already as it's being rolled out slowly to the public and we're way behind

[serene pine]

He didn't know it at the time, he never even considered it wasn't on earth so he was really confused. But essentially yes, he communicated with an individual in the group. Many of them were asleep in a 'stasis'. They were in a pyramid structure that was supposed to be some kind of defensive thing and were awaiting help. He was remote viewing on Mars but didn't realize it.

https://shawnryanshow.com/blogs/the-shawn-ryan-show/srs-95-joe-mcmoneagle-project-stargate

[final sandal]

oh boy

[covert swallow]

The CIA did some weird stuff with remote viewing

[final sandal]

we're supposed to be steering him away from schizo delusions

[west hull]

hey these aren't my delusions, i'm literally just repeating stuff i've unfortunately come across on teh internet

never said i stand behind these theories i present

[covert swallow]

That's the problem with crazy. The world is stranger than fiction.

[serene pine]

I get it. I do. I'm not into the woowoo stuff. But I do know someone personally who has experienced working with him. And this person is as reliable as they come. I also know a couple of other third-hand people associated with him who are also VERY reliable. It's the only reason I started biting onto this stuff

[covert swallow]

It's only delusional if it's not true lol.

In fact there are cases of people having delusions, being entirely delusional, but one of their delusions turning out to be true. You can imagine what that does to a schizo.

[final sandal]

not making history and philosophy of science a requirement for every college grad was a huge mistake

[serene pine]

I assure you I'm educated.

[west hull]

lol college grads are some of the stupidest people the majority of the time, literally just indoctrinated rule followers capable of slaving away at arbitrary stuff