💡┃suggestions-web

[grave pecan]

sudo apt imagemagik

[tepid trench]

It seems like it. You know, I never bothered to actually look at this before and I am horrified now I've seen it lol

[grave pecan]

No wonder people are complaining about it being slow. Poor folks browsing on mobile probably eating their mobile data plans

[lapis osprey]

Need ability to sort deleted newest first. Also search deleted would be nice.

Please add background color to row of actively playing song in Playlist to make it easier to find.

Yellow thumbs up was easier to see than white is. Having everything one color makes it more difficult to see what you are looking for. That said, a different color thumbs down (red?) Would help me find them for deletion. Or maybe filter by thumbs up/down.

[gloomy surge]

Make the big ass create button smaller

[twin cypress]

Give me an option to go back to the old browser layout because this new layout triggers some kind of attention deficit I didn't know I had and I'm ready to go get diagnosed for and take drugs?

[vague ermine]

I think the song info box on the right side of the screen needs to be a bit bigger. It is so tiny on my screen. like 20vw would be perfect

[eternal spear]

I'm sure it's been said already but please fix/revert the aspect ratio on our album cover art. Or at least allow us to use one or the other.

[sweet ibex]

A change in font for the headers, more condensed thumbnails, increase the width of the sidebar where the lyrics show like how it was, on mobile make the create button smaller if it stays on screen while scrolling to allow users to see more of their songs without as much scrolling. Just initial observations that would retain the style but give it quality of life improvements.

[ocean smelt]

I don't want to be rude, but just revert the changes. It's not fun, tracks doesn't want to get in order and I got an headache from looking at the site for too long

[drowsy dove]

I like the new colors a lot!!

If the fonts and sizes for everything were dropped though, so we could get, say, 3 songs in a row on mobile (like Instagram!) This would be amazing 👏 🙂

[hexed edge]

I'm sorry but I cannot tell you this softly, this will be harsh: whoever you trusted with the new design, you shouldn't let close to your project again. Hire someone professional, if you really care about your subscribers and if you really want Suno to evolve into something bigger. I'm also supporting reverting back to the old design or just give us the option to use the old design.

[fair cipher]

I honestly don't see the point of the create button at all when there's literally a create menu on screen all the time. As far as I know, no one's ever had a problem finding out how to create things once they stopped trying to chirp and actually found the website.

[vague ermine]

Even reverting to just using squres would improve readability. For me anyway. Example:

This is music not movies.

[sweet ibex]

It does give a more movie feel with the different aspect ratio

[vague ermine]

Its due to conditioning. Music always came in square packaging, movies came in rectangles for the majority of modern peoples time. So the art we saw was in that format.

[twin cypress]

This

[drowsy dove]

Yeah they should lean into vinyl aesthetic

[pseudo lake]

I'm not privy to design choices, but reducing friction between deciding to use Suno and getting your finished result is full of UX choices, and perhaps they felt like changes needed to be made to address the edge case of users who were turned off by the steps required to make their first demo song.

I'm not advocating one way or the other, but thanks for making your opinions heard ❤️ If everyone looks back through the suggestions and upvotes ideas that resonate with them, and does the same for the existing known-suggestions, Suno will likely reflect the views

[vague ermine]

That would be awesome, click a song and the cover art slides the vinyl out.

[fair cipher]

I could totally see them all with a circle with a hole in the middle too lol

[sage mirage]

I've taken to making my images in mind with the thinning of em, but that is an unfair thing to expect people to do. I come from image and design so whatever I can work with the UI

[pseudo lake]

Ooooh, trimmed up name -- you look sleek, dude. I wouldn't be surprised if this username is more aerodynamic. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if you ran a little faster online now.

[sweet ibex]

Like if you want stylized, lean heavy into that, if you want clean and modern, you lean into that. This is almost a blend of things and its offputting right now.

Like a rough draft first pass of something that could be good with a few tweaks.

[vague ermine]

Its offputing because it is mobile centric. Where as most of us will be desktop users. Majority of audience is probably mobile though

[drowsy dove]

Yeah it's also tough with the image I had in mind that needed the edges for SSC4 tomorrow - regenning an image isn't TOO hard but a little annoying to other people (not me)

[fair cipher]

I've made all my songs by hitting the create menu thing. I don't know why, it just seems like if you're gonna have a huge create button then why have the menu thing down there at all? So like, if it's there, it needs to have a use, therefore I use it lol

[sweet ibex]

You don't have to explain every detail of what im saying goat

[vague ermine]

My bad. 😰

[sweet ibex]

all good im just busting on ya xD

I really should not be sarcastic in text

[vague ermine]

see i keep saying discord needs a sarcasm font.

[sweet ibex]

I mean this could be it

[vague ermine]

nah that just sounds fancy

[pseudo lake]

Just throw a 😛 whenever you're being less than serious like I do 😛

[sweet ibex]

Looking like the new UI all fancy

[pseudo lake]

"You don't have to explain every detail of what I'm saying goat 😛 "

See, that sounds cute

[vague ermine]

Nah now you are mocking me with that tongue, blowing raspberries at me. 😉
Anyway i fear if they did return to squares with their current design it would look way too close to udio. I vote for vinyl, to set them apart.

[sweet ibex]

Maybe we can find some sort of middle ground between this new style and the old style. Like I could see stuff from the older being mixed with the new and it actually being pretty good.

My biggest issue is the sizing of the letters on headers with the new font, it looks stretched ever slightly.

[fallen moss]

I like the look of the album art being bigger but it needs to be square. That alone would probably get rid of a lot of my concerns at the moment

[sweet ibex]

I enjoyed being able to see the prompt just by looking at something. Gives me an idea of what to expect.

[fallen moss]

Yeah, that too. I do like that part

[vague ermine]

The one on the right could be really nice with a few tweaks. Move the voting and icons to the right side as little squares that take up the entire space stacked up, make the art bigger taking the full height of the box and then fill in the info between the two. OOOh that would look nice.

[sweet ibex]

In fact, a lot of song titles get cut off

It decreases readability and exposure considering things that make songs get clicked are the name and the image

Like sure if you're one of the 20 users with an actual following thats not an issue but for everyone else it is.

[novel compass]

We needed a UI design overhaul, but this isn't it.

[sweet ibex]

I think the compact format of the left really works with getting more information on a single screen

And the less a user needs to move around on the site the better, the longer it takes someone to do something, the more likely they are to stop

[novel compass]

LOL this one got cut off in the image, but the new font came to save the day by also cutting the title off at the same spot.

[sweet ibex]

But the profile picture doesn't need to be so large in the new style, it could probably be a little smaller and maybe squeeze out some of the vertical space between songs and sections. Lot of empty space going on around there that could possibly be reduced to fit another row of songs on screen at default zoom on browser.

Making the aspect ratio 1:1 for the pictures as it used to be would also add to that.

[fallen moss]

I actually like the larger profile picture. It was way too small before

[sweet ibex]

We don't need large profile pictures though. And if you're gonna worry about the profile picture, then let people add custom profile banners as well.

Otherwise we just get a lot of empty black space.

Like thats a lot of space to just go unused honestly

But if there was a little banner background I could edit it would add to the personality of profiles

[ocean bolt]

The profile picture seems larger at first but it is actually smaller, it cuts off a lot from original picture.

[sweet ibex]

My pictures are exactly the same in both images

[ocean bolt]

They are now, but they are both smaller than they were before

[sweet ibex]

you did look at the pictures I put above right? we're looking at the same thing?

[ocean bolt]

Yes, and I'm checking all my pictures at the moment and I see less than before

[sweet ibex]

Interesting. Wonder if it has to do with the original image size.

[ocean bolt]

Original size or screen resolution.

[sweet ibex]

Like if you took a big picture and only used a small circle versus a picture that didn't need to be cropped.

I definitely know there is less of the images shown in the song thumbnails now

But compared to the space it took up in the old UI versus the new UI, i'd say the actual image is about 300% larger. For the pfp

[ocean bolt]

I can't also see my full Display Name under my tracks in profile page

[sweet ibex]

Yeah this is one that I've noticed on song titles and that can affect user exposure.

It'll push people to making shorter usernames which isn't exactly a bad thing for new users but existing longer term users might not want to change their usernames for the sake of UI readability.

[ocean bolt]

Uh, why do you think someone would change their username which they have used multiple years just to fit in this UI?

[sweet ibex]

Because people do and will.

Not everyone uses the same username for every form of platform.

[naive wasp]

maybe they should undo the redesign. he first time i went to the new suno i thought it was a phising website

[ocean bolt]

Some will surely do but not most of users.

The thing is, you can do PC and mobile their own UI, they do not need to use the same one. I don't know why would they go this way.

[wicked hound]

square album art

[scenic crystal]

We need a public api 👀

[native pagoda]

Suno most offer control over prompt weight, lyrics weight and anything else like manual settings like udio does

[sweet ibex]

Yes I was also thinking this, since one is an app, and the other is browser based, their designs should be able to compile separately for the different builds.

outside of mobile users without app access, which could also just be a 3rd build. After all, on my phone when I use a website, I can hit the dropdown and enable "desktop view"

So even if mobile users dont like the native mobile UI then they can still view the desktop variant

[pulsar ridge]

Please, find my complaint and suggestion in regards to the new layout of "create" page, as per below:

🟡 Lyrics & Style of Music: Reduce font size into the prompting area (or make it scalable with the zoom from the browser). As per now, it is worsening a lot working with the prompt as I cannot see more than 4/5 lines squeezed together.

🟠 Title: Font size as per above (🟡), reduce rectangle spacing as its too much for its purpose (improving so general quality of the column).

🔵 Music Player: Unnecessary large rectangle with too little font size for the most important information: the song time. Additionally, I suggest to squeeze up to the point indicated from the arrow.

🟢 🟣 Main left & right prompt columns: put together as it is the same complaint: enlarge their area up to the space indicated from the arrows, such that the song prompt can be seen in an appropriate spacing (ideally as per old version where the line verses are not cropped).

That should be it 😅

[sweet ibex]

I enjoy the visual presentation this is good

[pulsar ridge]

Of the complaint or of Suno Browser new version? 😅

[sweet ibex]

How you showed what should be changed with the colors

[pulsar ridge]

Understood now, thanks a lot! Too much time spent in corporate stuff maybe is bringing some upwards 😂

[shadow grove]

I totally agree, too small the space for the text for the prompts, lyrics and style of music

they need to make it bigger

Also im tired of the birds always appearing in my cover arts

[teal bay]

having to click on the volume icon to change it instead of having the slider already available there is also annoying

[pseudo lake]

I miss the malformed guitarist birds with hands, but the funky waveform design is neat too 🙂

[pulsar ridge]

Yes, I wouldn't say that is unworkable as per now, but it is really giving a hard time to work around it 🙃

[prime rock]

Minor thing but didn’t upvotes used to be yellow and now they’re white? Much harder to visually scale a list while creating

[shadow grove]

true

The styles of music everything seems too restricted

gives me claustrofobia

[royal venture]

• Fix these issues in these 2 pictures.
• Also you cant scroll lyrics in create screen on mobile, annoying.
• Make the top bar with suno logo static, so it moves off screen. Its better than currently.
• When i play a song, have the media player below the cover photo. Currently its pretty dumb trying to scroll down and the song pauses cause im tapping it through the cover art.
• the create button is too large. Add an arrow button in the center above the 4 options at bottom. Like an app drawer this can then allow the current create button to appear when pressed. This gives more room to view what we want, or a better spot to place the media player.
• why is there 2 create buttons. Get rid of the purple one, or remove the other 1.
• The cover art is zoomed in when you click a song. This ruins the art as we did not create them with this in mind. We would need 2 cover arts for the 2 ratios.
• The cover art on profiles page is rectangular instead of square. Same issue as above. No one planned for this and it ruins many peoples covers

[shadow grove]

it looks like my netflix recommendations

[ocean bolt]

Are you supposed to be able to extend from other users tracks?

[shadow grove]

before you could, i dont know now

if you mean that if its permitted, yes and no

no if you are going to monetize the song

[ocean bolt]

ok, I never saw the option until now. It's okay I guess if that's intented.

[vague ermine]

I kind of wish the create options would default to maximized to the height of the viewport. Keeping create and upload in the same place at the bottom of the screen, rather than jumping around between custom and normal.

[dense geode]

i agree, there is no need for the redundant Create button. removing the large one would conserve on space and will look cleaner

[pulsar ridge]

100% agree

[delicate cargo]

Just a few more pixels on that right side and im good

[shrewd widget]

Remove the empty space when the right panel is not opened and widen the right panel. 😦

[pliant tendon]

I also think that thumbnails being cut off is not ideal, it kind of messes with people having made use of the 1:1 space

All of my thumbnails have details that are cut off

Maybe they can keep the mobile look while browsing, but the side panel could use the original resolution

Even the song page shows them like that

[fallen moss]

Agree completely. I spend a lot of time on the artwork for my songs and to have it cut off is just...diappointing to say the least.

[prime rock]

Love you guys really but surely you didn’t mean to do this, can only view six lines of lyrics at a time in create mode. Also playback is charcoal text on black, I’m guessing no one in the office thought about accessibility?

[royal venture]

Just bad

[shadow moth]

change UI back to the previous way

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1260023056013852775 This is the same issue, correct? 🙏

The visibility / accessibility options is a really good point, as well. ❤️

[prime rock]

No, this is a different thing, this is just what the view looks like in this interface. This will scroll in this view but the box is tiny.

It’s the other large view that doesn’t scroll

[leaden marlin]

Nice update but you are loosing a lot of space here…

[spark coyote]

If possible, make the side panel expand and contract with a button (like the YouTube side panel) so that the song view at the right side (or other parts of the UI) can get more space

[honest brook]

There's a flaw with the new interface.
The prompts should appear verbatim on the right side of screen, that way people can tweak their original prompts. Original prompts need to stay with songs.

[latent robin]

Alright some feedback, Is the new style permanent If so please please, for the love of good go with a different font for the headers, it's painful to look at the new logo is cool I can even tolerate then ew color plate, but that font is a mistake.

A toggle option would also be great as I prefered the old UI

[twilit frigate]

I don't think I like the new UI. It's not as compact.
The Frame on the right instead of the frame underneath is less desirable.
It's also kinda ugly.
I'd like themes at least. Plain Slate / Dark theme would be fine without the fancy sparkles and padded margins.

The side panel has no obvious function until you click a song. Kinda looks tacky on refresh.
I wonder, what was wrong with the player at the bottom of the screen?

[brittle loom]

Honestly, in my opinion, such kind of a font doesn't really fit good when it is used just in part of texts while almost the whole Web site uses modern fonts

[near drum]

Everything is way too overscaled. Except for the stuff we actually want to see, like the lyrics or album art which is way too skinny. I don't know who saw this design and thought this was good but it just isn't it

[brittle loom]

Also i really hate the fact that the number of remaining credits is not shown on the page — you have to tap your ava icon to view it. Little thing but it is not good to remove it

[leaden marlin]

I really miss the old layout imo

[solemn trail]

same

[near drum]

thats still there for me

[brittle loom]

Do you use PC? Maybe that's the reason. Or me is unlucky

[near drum]

yeah, PC firefox

I need to use my credits, ignore that 😄

[brittle loom]

Seems they removed it from mobile version of the site

[near drum]

interesting

[echo peak]

i don't want to be mean but the new layout is TERRIBLE

what is going on with the fonts and css?????? is this geocities?????

[hollow locust]

Here's hoping for batch downloads sooner rather than later!

[leaden marlin]

the fonts is like made out of canva lol

[echo peak]

it goes against pretty much every principle of design

it's like someone asked, "how can we make this worse in every way?"

[pseudo lake]

lol, okay.

[echo peak]

it's better why?

[twilit frigate]

When I downvote something, the way it sends me to the bottom of the list is super-annoying

When creating a playlist, you should be able to name it before it's created so it's not 'Untitled Playlist" every time

[echo peak]

what's the favicon now? it looks like blurry entrails

[raw cape]

Original feedback here... this UI update needs to go back to the shop...

[arctic coyote]

Can you make a visual setting where you can change font or backround color

[tribal nest]

new UI feels cluttered, not as intuitive as before

[leaden marlin]

lol

[royal venture]

https://i.imgur.com/fxdY9f9.png

• pick 1 cover size. Keep the size the same for playlists, for individual tracks on profile, and for the track when you click it, are looking at the lyrics, and listening to the song. Theres no reason for 3 cover art sizes. Consistency is key.
• Why does every track have the creators name under it. If you are on their profile, this information is redundant and pointless.
• That tags do not need to be shown here, they can be shown on the tracks lyric page under the cover art like currently.
• The song duration, plays, and likes looks good like this. Good idea. The background on these displays could either be fully transparent to not mess with the cover art as much, or completely black like the rest of the theme and would also help with clarity for those with trouble reading small text.

[paper pond]

I think there's a few things to really like with the new layout but there's a lot that instantly stood out to me of which I didn't care for. I'm OCD about stuff so little things stick out hard to me.

Pros:
I love the new layout for profile viewing overall.

I like the way playlists look like records with the songs being tucked inside the top of it (chef's kiss).

I like that I can clearly see people's avatars.

Cons:
I don't like the vertical display of song covers. They stay vertical even when you go to the song page (in the player as well). As far as I can tell there's no way to see the full thing without having to right click it and open in new tab (causing you download it). The square covers just feel so much more authentic (and look nicer) as artwork for music has traditionally always been like that.

The previous home page (while not perfect) felt a lot easier to, at a glance, distinguish what is what. There was more detail to it. Now it just looks like lists. Which all look the same (apart from the playlists which have retained their beautiful squareness).

I haven't used the creator yet but just looking at it feels minimalist somehow in comparison to the previous version (which is ok but I did enjoy the way it looked before a lot more).

I feel a playlist's full name should be displayed at all times. For example with mine named Album: Neurotic Emergence (In Progress) the (In Progress) is entirely nonvisible depending on the size of the browser page (it's even worse on phones). You can't even hover over it to get the name.

The side panel for songs you push play on being constantly open just feels off. Plus it's gotten smaller making lyrics even more squished.

I don't mind the new choice of font (previous felt more professional) but I don't like how it has this squashed look.

Buttons don't stand out as much as they did previously.

Overall style has first website vibes. I really don't mean to offend. Just my honest opinion.

That's about it I think. Thank you if you read my input. I love Suno so far and just wish the best for it. If you paid attention to any of what I wrote here then let me say the main complaint for me is the song covers. Not being able to see the full artwork is really bothering me...

[lofty kettle]

Also I'm not a fan of the new UI, particularly the new home page. Overall it feels, with my full respect to the designers, that it needs more work. Actually when I saw it I made a screen capture because I wanted to share with support, as I thought it was a bug and it was not loading resources.

[tiny spoke]

the new ui is really bad regarding readability, bad font choices, blurred text on the thumbnails, letters are too close to each other, missing crucial spacing

[sonic moss]

I think all the original site needed was refining
It's like I'm looking through Netflix or something
Netflix's goal is to grab your attention instantly, that's what this feels like and it's ridiculously overwhelming

[hoary heart]

Not liking the new design at all... The sidebar has been reduced, just to make room for more blank space.. Why? If anything, the sidebar should be extended on larger resolutions!

On top of this, we've reverted to displaying song art as portrait. Only cassettes used this format.. Throughout music history, Vinyl singles and albums, CD's, minidisc's etc have all used a square aspect ratio.. Just like digital versions Apple music, Spotify, etc .. and Suno used this too.. Changing this feels like a silly decision JUST to try to be different

Also dislike the Serif font used for titles now 😦

[crystal compass]

The old theme looked better to me, I would love to get the old theme back as an option for theme selection. Im not liking the new one.

[sacred granite]

Feedback: The new website is horrible. I am offended as a web developer. I know how difficult a site like this can be to make, the front end was fine and just lacking some features. Please reverse.

[sacred granite]

Yes, Serif is a bad fit. Also, why is the menu to the left always visible? It should be on hover, and you are right about all the black space too.

[tribal nest]

Take up the whole phone screen,each line contains too little information

[tame ruin]

the new fonts are harder to read. too thick, and not pleasant

[sacred granite]

Did not even take a look on phone yet. Yea, worse in every way. Feels bad to be so harsh but someting went REALLY wrong here.

[woeful burrow]

I'm also a web developer and new layout looks good to me, lol! Agree that the Serif is a bit off though – for a sec I thought I was experiencing a connectivity issue and some CSS didn't load... I do like the condensation tho. (I use on desktop only, never used on mobile, and mainly just Create and Library pages)

Anyway, the suggestion: currently in Library and especially in Create page, the indicators of currently playing/selected track are way too invisible. The thin white border on the image is pretty useless if the image happens to be with white background, and the background of the currently playing item is way too dim. I have a normal healthy eyesight and it's extremely difficult for me to see which track in the list is currently playing and/or selected. Please fix.

[short dune]

1 box art per page on my phone

[signal vault]

Same

1/3rd of 3 on landscape, nice

[tame ruin]

the created songs header takes up too much space. youve crowded the UI with so much WASTED SPACE. the create button looks like garbage. whoever designed And fianlized the designs has issues. oh and bring back the highlight for the now/last playing track. this is either an accident or sabotage.

[magic vault]

new design looks like some new entry-ux designer made it. What's going on here? fonts are way off, so much wasted space and irrelevant stuff.

[tame ruin]

i can see this being the alpha version 0.05, but this far into it, it smacks of new hire, or unfortunate promotion.

feelings should be hurt, over the aesthetic impact you have delivered, youre lucky i payed for a year

[indigo ginkgo]

This post sums up my feelings pretty well, next to the cut-off album art, weird fonts and weird spacing.

[fallen zinc]

audiotrack line is also waaaaay too close to the page border

slight misclick will open up my starmenu tabs

really annoying

[left marten]

On pc, the sidebar fits **a little more than 5 and a half times ** within the empty space between songtitles and the options on the right of it. this change actively made this empty space bigger.

[fallen zinc]

lol try it in 5120x1440 resolution :D

[left marten]

the new font also makes small i's unreadable. they are practically an l at this point

[fallen zinc]

this is how it looks for me

[left marten]

wow

just wow

the other font also seems streched, and is kind of hard to read to me. getting a more compact font seems better

all in all, this update seems to stretch a lot of things, without it being necessary and with it being harder to see and worse to look at.

joining the bandwagon in saying: please revert, or give us a toggle. this ain't it chief

[woeful burrow]

Who keeps their browsers that wide lmao

[fallen zinc]

ppl who make music btw...

this is excellent for track-production and mastering in ableton

you can see your whole project if it's under 5 minutes

[woeful burrow]

I said browser bro

[left marten]

also, when resizing everything gets cluttered, but one third of the created song bar is still empty space?

[fallen zinc]

ps: if it feels like it's getting too whiney then remember that ppl only cry about something that annoys them...
AI part of the 3.5v generator is still the best thing out there. (if i overlook few minor bugs).

no question in my mind about it

[indigo ginkgo]

I'd love to know the why of this format, because there are so many clear mistakes, even for people that haven't studied UX design. I wonder if they optimized towards the iphone build, that is the only thing I can think of.

[woeful burrow]

(I'm not saying your critique is invalid, just a bit skeptical that many websites look very good in a browser that wide. I never have browser on full screen unless I'm on some mini screen)

[indigo ginkgo]

lol, it looks bad in a regular browser too

[celest plaza]

pls let switch to old thema 🙏

[pulsar ridge]

The ideal dystopia 🖤

[calm sonnet]

The current system through a list of songs on endless pages is chaotic and depressing. The layout should be similar to a file explorer, with songs organized into folders. When an extension is generated for a song, a specific folder must be created for that song that contains the extensions.

[celest plaza]

[patent glen]

I do like the new site, but here are a few gripes I've come across so far

• Optimization, scrolling feels incredibly sluggish compared to the version before

• Font, I do feel the font has to change readability wise, especially the larger font. I quite like the smaller font and feels it has a nice aesthetic

• Main Page, The amount of songs in the following tab is one more than what appears in the rest, I feel it lacks some consistency

• Right song panel, I feel this should stick out a little more, giving us the option to resize it would be a cool idea as well

• Left main panel, I feel we should have the ability to be able to show/hide the panel, similar to how it works on Youtube where it compacts into the mini icons

• Progress bar/Extension pane, I wouldn't mind to be able to have the ability go to by millisecond, mainly in terms of fine tuning song extensions. Plus the ability to have a little popup with the time for when you hover over it.

I'm also running into an issue where I'm unable to pan throughout it without switching between songs, unsure if it's on my end or a bug.

Will be coming up with a few more things but I feel that these are a few of the main things

All in all I'm a fan, deffo in a good spot for fixes and excited to see what's to come in future

[misty crag]

oh..my.. god.. suno had a simple and intuitive site - it is all gone, now, buggy, stucky and slow af.. 💩 It looks like a typical CEO nowadays has drawn that UI with a pencil in 20seconds: "Don't ask, do what I say, and don't forget the glittery buttons!" what the heck suno? the app layout was not optimal and still buggy but we get the webpage branded on the same 🤢

[heavy hatch]

Revert the last commit please, so we all can go back to creating music in a good environment. New font, spacings and layout are 🤮 At least, hire a UX designer that has experience with modern web UI if you wanna do a full revamp like this.

[willow gulch]

to be honest honest guys, imo previous looks of suno was better. I mean "cleaner". New one is cool but "packed" with things when i think simplicity and being clean is most important for good user experience

[paper pond]

I primarily just want my beloved full cover arts back... 😔 At the very least in the player and when you're on the song page. I can't understand how there's zero way to see the full artwork.

[small junco]

i dont like complaining and I'm not a UI designer but i can very clearly and quickly tell you that the new layout is an absolute downgrade and i would like to add my voice to the above. did the UI designer have any qualifications or did they hire the first guy off the street to just sparkle some different fonts around and mess with the sizes?

[woeful burrow]

Omg, timestamp on filename! Great, was thinking about suggesting this 10mins ago last time.

[tepid trench]

Yeah I keep doing this, too. It's annoying.

[unborn token]

please revert back to old font or give us an option to choose it. new font very unclear, condensed. also it's extremely small on the right side lyrics when played, this isn't user friendly UI at all now

Just look at this now. all words mashed together, need a telescope to use Suno web now

[small junco]

the lyrics (and also the song creation bar on the left) should really be set so they can be dragged in and out to a customisable size, that's web design 101 really

[thin ermine]

It was even working that way 24 hours ago. Sadness.

[stray sparrow]

The new desings is horrible, computer users have horizontal screens and the new layout is vertical to make It more smartphone friendly. That makes It annoying to use because you have to use vertical scroll all the time and you see less info on each screen.

Also part of the text is huge and the rest is tiny so you can't effectively compensate changing the font size on your computer because if you try to make the big fonts smaller to fit well on screen the small fonts are unreadable, and if you try to make the small fonts readable the big fonts take over the screen.

[loud canyon]

new UI is a huge step back. I was working on a song and all was good. I refreshed the page and instantly felt like things were less usable

[thin ermine]

I still have my original UI tab open at home... They'll have to pry that tab from my cold, dead browser!

[stray sparrow]

The "times played" and "likes" counters are hard to see and read now that the numbers are tiny and mixed with the cover art. And the right column is too narrow to be of use. Please revert back to the previous layout while you try to fix this disaster.

[hollow locust]

Ability to, in playlists, 'arrange by length', 'arrange by alphabetical', etc.

[vale sphinx]

I realized things feel a bit narrowed to me, so i just felt like proposing an alternative arrangement

[ocean bolt]

We need the option to scale each text box, now it's only available in lyrics

[deep flame]

I think it is a memory hungry UI also... i'm getting lag... maybe drop the font size

[stray sparrow]

Hey! Suno staff! THIS:

[weak bloom]

Suno.com updates in general are bizzare. The brown background is ugly. The random logo distortion is confusing. The font is stretched tall for no reason and unreadable a lot of times. Just use all san-serif fonts, poll the people, i guarantee nobody wants serif fonts.

Suno.com is super slow on mobile browser, I'm on a Pixel 6 Pro so it shouldn't have a problem at all. Like nearly 1-3 second lags/pauses on clicks

Honestly I would go back to the drawing board and copy Spotify in most all aspects

I do like this narrow layout the best, minus the color and font. I do think this is really great for individual songs

[ornate osprey]

The new UI hurt my eyes, some fonts are too small, the part of lyrics and the image is too small... give us back the old UI 😖

[pseudo lake]

@hybrid crane can we add a #1252298754787377225 for the ability to swap between the classic UI and reskin using old.suno.com and www.suno.com?

[hybrid crane]

I could, but I can tell you with logic, this is not just a "skin" swap. Also with new upcoming features, it would not be practical at all to have more than one layout.

[pseudo lake]

Just for the sake of having somewhere to point the inevitable influx of comments so any new suggestions have a chance of being seen.

Also, I know it's not a simple css choice, but people are passionate about the suggestion, and it's a similar convention in places like https://new.reddit.com and https://old.reddit.com

I would never begrudge anyone for preferring new.reddit.com, but I would be genuinely upset if they took the classic UI away and forced me to view things with a purely mobile-focused redesign.

Even if the idea isn't feasible, I would rather the community feel like their common suggestions are heard, and let the developers comment directly on those posts to explain why they can't or won't implement certain ideas if they want to nix the ideas.

[small junco]

If I may add: I think in general, it would just be a good idea to have a dedicated thread for this discussion so as to not fill up here with it. I think it's always important to hear differing voices from a userbase who are the ones actually using the product, as a difficult to use or unsuitable/unintuitive interface or elements can and will turn away people from using it, which is obviously not what the developers intend. Potential changes should be monitored and a dedicated thread allows us to see more exactly on why people think what they do and how many people think the same (I've seen people in here, on Reddit etc. talking about it all day) which can encourage useful and positive discussion on why certain things work certain ways. Even if the old look doesn't work, continual improvement on the new one should be heavily considered. I think changes should exist to improve, not just to change, and the best people to obtain this feedback from are the people who are actively using the product.

[pastel lynx]

The font in Suno is disgusting. I and L are different letters. Il should not be a thing.

[vale sphinx]

I don't know if it's some kind of troll, but i find this genius ^^'

[hybrid crane]

I will do it when I am back behind my screen

[stray sparrow]

How do you see what's on screen from behind?🤔

[glad sorrel]

Ufff the new web interface is a whole mess...

[pastel island]

Is the official logo of suno supposed to be a noise square now?

Every other website has a logo.

[honest brook]

original prompt inputs should be available on the right side of screen. allow users to toggle back to old interface this one has too many issues.

[glad sorrel]

No way to properly read your lyrics on the create form anymore... Same problem with the style prompt.

[pseudo lake]

?

[glad sorrel]

In my screen looks so disgusting

[pseudo lake]

You said you can't read your lyrics, so I posted a video reponse showing multiple ways of viewing the full lyrics.

I'm not sure what specifically you're trying to show, unless it's just to point out that you don't like the way it looks?

[glad sorrel]

UX is so bad. No one is gonna feel ok with being forced to resize the screen controls all the time to work with the editor. It's a design mess.

[pseudo lake]

Sorry, just to clarify, is there something that you're not able to read? Or is it just that you don't like the way it looks? (regardless of whether or not you feel the opinion is justified)

I'm sure there's lot of specific changes people would like to make, but I'm more focused on how it was phrased like a bug report, so I'm trying to figure out if it's something to follow up on, or just to make note that another user isn't satisfied with the reskin.

Not to invalidate your opinions, but going beat-by-beat over what you don't like isn't what I'm asking at the moment.

[glad sorrel]

It's the main part of this view and has been treated as an optional part. In the create view the create form is the main part, but has been poorly designed.

Invalidating the whole view purpose

[pseudo lake]

Okay, so if I understand you're not functionally prevented from reading it or using the site, but you would prefer if the lyrics box autoexpanded to show all contents, correct?

[glad sorrel]

This is not about my preferences.

[small junco]

i think they mean just like so the create part makes use of all the available screen space rather than the bottom half of it being blank

altho actually on their screenshot it looks like theyre zoomed in a lot bcos it already does, the lyrics box is just a lot smaller

nvm

[glad sorrel]

This is about providing the proper user experience to the main feature provided by the platform. The whole form needs a redesign.

[pseudo lake]

I'm not sure if you're choosing to disregard the questions, but I'm finding that we're losing traction in the progress we're making. I understand you don't like the reskin, thanks for sharing your feedback.

[frank saffron]

please suno. if i want to turn my song texts into novels then please let me do so 😅

[glad sorrel]

Just a piece of professional advice. The create form is the main part of the create view, but it's barely getting a column 30% of the screen, making the controls fight for the column height and providing a poor UX. This is a core feature of the platform, but it has not been treated properly. The last creation column is taking up too much space and showing too many unneeded controls.

[thin ermine]

Red is not a good color to use for indicating which songs we've given a thumbs-up to... My first thought at seeing this in the search results was that there was some error with the count.

[spring cave]

This mobile layout for the create screen should really list the users credits somewhere on it, especially now that they don't show up at the top of the standard pages anymore

[thin ermine]

We've lost the ability to drag that entire column to whatever width we want, too. 😦

[pseudo lake]

Conversational advice, your points don't carry as much weight if you're not sitting at the table in goodfaith for conversation. I get that you don't like it, and your opinions are valid; others have brought the same points up in helpful ways.

I hope your day goes well, considering.

[glad sorrel]

Why do you consider I'm not trying to help or "sitting at the table in goodfaith for conversation"?

[stray sparrow]

The play similar music feature does not work properly If your initial song has mixed genres. I mean, If you make a song that changes the genre halfway and ask suno to play similar titles, the music It suggests follows the genre indications of the first fragment of the song.

Not very useful when you make a dubstep song that has an opera intro.

[pseudo lake]

A couple times I tried to ask direct and pointed questions, attempting a dialogue about specific issues vs stylistic preferences.

I felt like the efforts to engage in conversation were being sidestepped so that you could present your vision for how the site should be designed.

I'm not on staff, not involved in making design choices, I even said that going beat-by-beat over your design preferences wasn't what I was attempting to communicate.

I understand that a lot of people are going to want to share their grievances and suggestions about the new UI, but it's impossible to make any meaningful progress if we're unable to successfully volley a single back-and-forth of questioning while trying to establish a common ground.

You're right to point out that it's just as much on my end for interpreting things that way and choosing to react as such, so I apologize if I mischaracterized you or your intentions. I know people really care about Suno, and having it look or feel different is just weird to get used to.

Genuinely hope we can reach a point where everyone is happy with the way it looks (just gotta know when to mentally distance myself from specific conversations for my own mental health's sake) ❤️

[muted delta]

bump! we do read all of yalls suggestions/comments (and we appreciate it!). the more direct you can be with what you have issues with, the sooner we can address and fix them

[short dune]

i dont design or do anything. al i can tell u as a consumer is that site is BUTT UGLY and looks like it was designed by a developer who goes for function over aesthetics 🤓

[vale sphinx]

I think you should consider a "themes" thing! Even if it's tedious at first it can at least avoid color/font problem later on

[glad sorrel]

I didn't answer your direct questions because they were pointing in a bad direction. My suggestions were not related to autoscrolling or resizing, but UX of the form the way it's been designed.

[latent scarab]

Lmao dude you ok?

[small junco]

honestly this depends on how the site is coded but i wouldnt mind having a crack at trying to make a google chrome extension that lets you do that for the browser version

[vale sphinx]

Anyway people have their own preferences so best is to let them pick up

[pseudo lake]

Likewise, I felt the conversation wasn't in good faith because you made that decision unilaterally. I figured efforts helping people explain themselves are better spent elsewhere. 🍻

[pseudo lake]

Oooh, this gives me serious 1990s WinAmp vibes, and I'm more into that idea than I thought I would be 😛

[vale sphinx]

Btw hope the team don't take things bad! As good intention can fail, we know (i hope, at least, people know) it was good intention, just not the best execution!

[latent scarab]

Best to let them pick their own preference how a website looks? How do you browse and use every other online service. If you don’t like the way a site is designed do you not use the product? That sounds like such an entitled way to live.

[vale sphinx]

If there is theme things it's related to a previous message

Colors, font, theme

[vale sphinx]

That one

[latent scarab]

Yah that’s just a horrible way for them to spend their time. Probably why no major product / tool / services sites don’t do it.

[vale sphinx]

Some people actually like curved font others not

[hybrid crane]

I just opened a special channel https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1260263379243761776

Especially for layout suggestion and feedback

[near drum]

Reddit does it

[hybrid crane]

Please be so kind to gather your UI thoughts there

[latent scarab]

Reddit lets you customize your colors and fonts on their first party website? Don’t think so

[vale sphinx]

Yeah as i asaid it's tedious, but at least everyone will be happy, as everyone can have color/font he like

[pseudo lake]

new.reddit.com vs old.reddit.com

[near drum]

every subreddit has their own stylesheet too

[latent scarab]

Making “everyone” happy is not achievable or sustainable. That is a terrible business model.

[vale sphinx]

If i can pick a background color and a font... i'm happy at least, and i think many will be

[sage mirage]

I too am not on the dev team but they aren't going to support two whole UIs

[latent scarab]

This isn’t MySpace though lol.

[sage mirage]

That's madness

[vale sphinx]

It at least avoid "I don't like this font" dilemma

It don't need to be advanced but some simple choice could be enough

It's hard to deny we appreciate more to spend time on a website that fit our preferences

[near drum]

I chose Suno over Udio because I preferred the site design.

[latent scarab]

So you don’t care about the product in the end you just wanna look at something “nice”? That’s wild to me

[near drum]

Frankly, Udio is a better product

so yes

[latent scarab]

I will never understand that view point so I’m done trying to

[vale sphinx]

There is a difference between "nice" and something "customizable" on basic setting

[pseudo lake]

por_que_no_los_dos.gif

[small junco]

its one of those things where the suno team should and will focus on keeping their site accessible, functional and intuitive, and the third parties will come in to create customisable themes and layouts which is usually how most apps, websites, etc go and then you can choose to use those if you care enough about that so the main dev team can ensure their product works.

eg i use Vencord bcos i love that i can customise how discord looks for me but i'd never expect Discord to build it in.

[vale sphinx]

i'm not talking aboiut advanced UI design

[latent scarab]

Just go change the css on your own site then to change a background color lol

Black is that offensive to you as a background color?

[vale sphinx]

Currently it's not black

[small junco]

ok nobody said that

[vale sphinx]

Also i'm not sure what's your point

[short dune]

Dont bother talking to him. He has a parasocial relationship with Suno. All he does is try to defend the design nonstop here.

[latent scarab]

My point? You said you wanted to be able to do simple things like change the background color or the font so I told you that you can do that in dev mode on most browsers so it looks like you prefer.

My backgrounds black right now maybe I’m on the wrong site

[vale sphinx]

Yeah everyone using a website "should use dev mode" of course! taht's an expected behavior

[latent scarab]

I could say the same about you wanting the devs to make custom options so everyone can have their own site look. I’m done though this isn’t going anywhere.

[vale sphinx]

So "suggestions browser" mean "don't suggest anything" ok now I know

[latent scarab]

You’re talking with one dude on the internet. I don’t work for them I never said to not to write in here I just said I thought they were bad ideas. Don’t get upset by one person on the internet. 👍

[vale sphinx]

I don't really mind as for good Ideas there is bad opinions ^^
You just fit the numbers no worry ^^

[latent scarab]

Either I’m stupid or that made absolutely no sense, sorry.

[hybrid crane]

Hi everyone, it's important to keep our discussions respectful and avoid personal jabs. Constructive feedback is welcome, but let's make sure to express our opinions without belittling others.

[pseudo lake]

Pauly (the lovable orange chonk) suggests everyone takes a step aside and has a tasty snack

[latent scarab]

Agreed

[vale sphinx]

I agree i just would like to remind there is some people that clearly hate other people opinion and taht's actually sad to see it's ok..

[indigo ginkgo]

you can't upvote a playlist from within the playlist, that should be a possibility

[latent scarab]

Wait you want them to punish other people who have differing opinions than you? Am I reading that right?

[hybrid crane]

Thanks for understanding, Ashy. Let's keep it positive and enjoy our discussions!

Let's not start again..

[latent scarab]

Sorry, just trying to understand their view point better.

[vale sphinx]

You start with that

[vale sphinx]

go with that

[pseudo lake]

Guys, it's not helping to keep jabbing. Differences of opinion are okay on the internet, and it was a heated moment, but all is cool in the grand scheme. Before the mods time anyone out, let's eat some snacks and be happy

[vale sphinx]

but with so cuddle to team it's ok

that's disgusting

[hybrid crane]

It seems you guys are rubbing eachother the wrong way.. Let's just walk away for now @vale sphinx @latent scarab

[latent scarab]

Im not “jabbing” anyone. But ok 👍

[indigo ginkgo]

Also something that stable diffussion does and I would love LOVE LOVE for suno. basically when you prompt your picture if you go over 75 tokens (simplified a number of characters), then you can continue, but what it does it makes another 75 token prompt and mixes the two 50-50. So for the music genre I would love this. Keep the character limit, but when I go over, make it 2 prompts of those amount of characters with both of them working 50%, you should be able to do this within the liminal space of the model.

[vale sphinx]

All i made was a suggestion!
Purpose of that channel and that guy come jabbbing me fiorst

but "that's ok " i must walk away that easily?

[hybrid crane]

Fair warning.. if you keep going I have to start to put people in time out

[indigo ginkgo]

without even having to train a new model.

[indigo ginkgo]

it gives the prompters a lot of extra control within prompting and would lead to even more original and cool gens.

[gaunt forum]

We should be able to follow people's playlists too! Or add them to our libraries, something like that

[pseudo lake]

Oooh, so we get notified if someone updates their playlist -- that's a good idea!

[sonic moss]

Something I came across while browsing https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/s/WR1lcvNFry

[pseudo lake]

Sharing it in the suggestions-layout was probably enough -- thanks for bring it to attention! ❤️

[sonic moss]

More eyes in here currently is all

[leaden marlin]

I may be in the minority with this, but I prefer being able to see full numbers, at least in our own profiles (like youtube studio, for example)
edit: or display full numbers on hover works too

[gaunt forum]

yeah! or just to have a more direct access to other people's playlists, other than navigating to their account, then go to their playlists....

being able to "pin" playlists to either the Home page or the sidebar would solve that too, both yours and others'

[near drum]

YES 100% THIS. I thought I was the minority. I used to collect data to track songs and it relies on exact numbers

[charred flax]

I like the idea of customizing colors and background

[hallow frost]

can we get a sorting option that shows all "complete tracks" i.e. All the ones made by "get whole track"

[charred flax]

Black is good. Font size would be interestign as well, as i find the UI just bloats. I feel like we could get more stuff on the screen if we could make stuff ab it smaller, etc

[pseudo lake]

Love this idea -- keep your eyes open for new organizational tools soon hopefully 🤞

[crude widget]

The incredibly gigantic "create" button when I'm using android phone to browse my library is extremely annoying, especially when I play one of the song, I can only see half of one song in the list. 😭

[jagged kayak]

SUGGESTION: Alphabetizing the Playlists Or at the least let you be able to set the order would be good. Looks sloppy as is.

[sage mirage]

You can click and drag them around and set the playlist order

[urban granite]

When is Suno coming to Android app?

[flint palm]

i have suggestion for the audio upload, i wish if there was a feature that can let you decide if you want to extend from that song or it uses the audio you uplaoded as an inspiration instead to make a similar song

for example you upload a kanye beat and then it generates a beat that gives you the same vibe plus some control using prompts

[undone bough]

we need some kind of time stamp on generated stuff, it's very hard to know what to delete in the library, also if u add a song to your playlists it should not be possible to delete it in the library. That way we can get rid of all the crap.

[pseudo lake]

😛 By “Kanye beat”, I’m sure you meant “beat that you exclusively own 100% rights to”, but I completely agree that there should be a prompt as to what the next step should be after uploading a sample, because a lot of people upload the clip and don’t know what happens next (maybe assuming Suno auto-iterates on it to make a track like the examples in the social media posts?)

[pseudo lake]

Does that work in the standard library or just the playlists?

[astral shard]

Hello, I joined cuz I wanna say that the new font is not good, I recommend using sans serif fonts, thank you for your understanding.

[jagged kayak]

I can't. Not in a browser or the IOS app. I can move the songs around but not the playlists.

[pseudo lake]

In the meantime, you can use this suggestion from @zenith rivet #💬┃general-chat message

[small junco]

They mean the actual playlists in the Library rather than the songs within a playlist I think

[stray bone]

lol its like when your supermarket moves everything around overnight, and you cant find the ketchup.

I can see suno is attempting to create a more distinctive visual identity to differentiate the site from other similar sites with a similar product. I have extensive professional experience in this area, and am enjoying the developments and feedback. Colour is your friend here that's all I will say, grab one while you can there aren't that many.

[sage mirage]

Ah move the playlists around

[stray bone]

pretty soon everyone gets used to it.

[sage mirage]

My mistake, yeah that would be nice

[hybrid crane]

No. This is a memory thing, and the longer your song, the more it could potentially time out 🤷‍♀️

Might be.. but devs advice you to keep it around 10 minutes max.

[near drum]

Just to play devils advocate, I would argue that the site looks more similar to its competitors now after the redesign, specifically Udio.

[hybrid crane]

You can just download the pieces and use a free program like audacity to stitch them together. 🙂

Discord is meant to talk with other users, and leave your feedback. If you want personal assistance, you can send an email to [e-mail]

[shell mirage]

Please make a voice toggle for Female/Male in the tool itself. I am tired of having to prompt for this.

[flint palm]

You take any beat and suno generates an inspiration not a copy of it that’s the idea

For example for copyrighted songs you can limit on the extension part of generation but if i want to generate a beat that replicates a certain style for example the weeknd after hours type of beats, i can’t do it just by prompts i hope you get my point

[pseudo lake]

You can replicate it by prompts alone, but it’s much easier to input a copyrighted song and ask it to do something similar, I understand.

[flint palm]

Plus im limited in writing the prompt by 120 characters so basically even that is not enough to describe what vibe you want, and yes it is now more doable since ai models are becoming familiar with sound and picture so i believe it can be done

[pseudo lake]

It’s a common thing for someone to share a song and ask what kind of prompts to use to replicate a specific artist.

I understand it’s not always a malicious act of wanting to copy someone’s music, sometimes it is very difficult to identify music and how to describe it with musical technicality.

[pseudo lake]

You can further influence the style by use of meta tags in the lyrics box

[flint palm]

Exactlyyyyyy and a lot of people that make beats they do it out of inspiration from a song, the meta tags are useful but they don’t follow it

For example i write [bass solo] i generate then it outputs electric guitar solo

[pseudo lake]

#1252257127326548028

[pseudo lake]

As 2 separate words, Suno could interpret this as “play a solo, and also make sure there is bass”. If you find that it’s not quite understanding, try rephrasing

[bass-solo] [bass-guitar-solo] [bass-breakdown] [complicated-bass] are just a couple different ways of prompting the same request to try to get different results.

[robust frost]

please make the cover view square again, like with the playlists. you can't even upload matching covers at the moment. everything is cut off

[flint palm]

Can i be like too descriptive in the meta tags?

[shell mirage]

Please provide a Cut/Trim tool for Clips.

[pseudo lake]

Oh yeah. None of these are explicit instructions, they're all suggestions.

At a certain point it will stop being able to juggle all of the specific suggestions and might ignore some/all of them. Also, some are weighted more strongly than others, so if you use MANY at once, it can be very hard to determine which prompts are having an effect.

In my personal opinion, unless you've worked specifically with each of the prompts before, with attempts to recognize how they interact with other prompts that you common use (building up and strengthening your "mental english-to-suno dictionary"), it can be very hard for certain to know which of your prompts are reflected in the final result, or if you could have gotten similar results by simply using the style prompt "dance".

Metatags, style prompts, instrumental toggle -- all just suggestions that can be ignored.

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252773477157699664 Please upvote the known suggestion for this idea so the devs know people are passionate about it.

[shell mirage]

Done, didn't know this existed

[near drum]

This would be great, wish they did this instead of a new UI

[prime rock]

Guys this color display for the lyrics is Not Okay. You need to fix this, not everyone in the world has 20/20 vision and not caring about accessibility is a bad look for you.

[forest mauve]

I would like to make a suggestion that the UI is just rolled back, to be honest.

[pseudo lake]

#🚧┃suggestions-layout

[forest mauve]

Thanks ^^ I will post there

[blazing lark]

Here's one! A "Delete all" or "empty trash" function.

[shadow crater]

For me the new design are much to dark - please make an option to let the user say what he want in theme. For me this is absolute depresive - I dont want go to this website now!

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1260263379243761776 They've opened a channel specifically for feedback on the UI if you want to join in 🙂

[hallow frost]

Can we just get the old one back

[prime rock]

Was there an update to the engine as well? I am having weird issues with continues. It seems to be buffering my lyrics at the end of a song in a way which doesn’t let me change them on continue.

[pseudo lake]

Do you feel as if bringing the subject up in multiple channels makes a better case?

They set up a whole channel dedicated to collecting this sort of feedback.

[pseudo lake]

Not that we've been made aware of.

[forest mauve]

I have a question that might help us give better feedback.

Why have you made all of these design choices? What are you trying to achieve with this drastic and radical redesign of your user interface?

What you had served every function of Suno really well, but what you are now implementing feels like it is sacrificing user friendliness in every area for some sort of artistic expression.

Maybe a little clarity around this would help us be able to give feedback that could please both the customers of Suno and fulfill the vision you are aiming for?

[glass echo]

Anybody notice the play head doesn't move when moving between songs? It seems to get stuck from the previous songs position even though the song time is changing.

[muted delta]

hi! thanks for taking the time to write this. one thing to note right off the bat is, there will be lots of things that need fixing + improving with the new redesign, so we ask that you remain patient and keep sending the reports in. as far as why, I think georg put it very well here: #💬┃general-chat message

[glass echo]

Example of the stuck play head.

[muted delta]

next time report these in #🪲┃bugs-web , but yes a fix for that is already in work 👍

[glass echo]

My bad. Do you want me to delete these posts and move them to the bugs-browser channel? I completely didn't see that.

[muted delta]

no need, just keep it in mind for next time. multiple people have also already reported it, just make sure to search next time

thanks for noticing that though :)

[glass echo]

I guess it makes sense now that "suggestions" are feature requests and not bugs.

[forest mauve]

Thank you for the reply, Stanley, I really appreciate that. So you want it to feel "fresh and like something new" is basically what I gather from this. But it is still rather vague. It would be great to know a little bit more about the target audience, demographic... like, what you are trying to achieve with it? That way we could actually really help out. We all want Suno to thrive.

The way it is designed now made the fun and friendly competition for the trending list sort of die, for example. That was my favourite part of Suno, at least. Made it feel like the sky was the limit on what you could achieve here.

[muted delta]

i can’t detail everything, but yes. part of doing something new is the potential backlash against that “new thing”, but we’re trying our best to gather the real feedback to make what we have even better. also to note, a lot these changes set up things behind the scenes to be easier for the future! so there’s a lot going on that isn’t obvious to the average user. i think your feedback on the trending is great. will def bring that up, and feel free to keep sending feedback like that to us!

[forest mauve]

Thank you for listening Stanley. I really appreciate that

[muted delta]

of course, thanks for supporting suno :)

[pulsar ridge]

I support 100% this

[pulsar ridge]

Hello Stanley, hope you are doing well.

I would like to bring to your attention the following suggestion regarding the new UI, to the specificity of "Create" section:
#🚧┃suggestions-layout message

As per it is now, I would consider it quite user-unfriendly but I would appreciate hearing from you on the points raised.
Thank you very much in advance

[muted delta]

hey! appreciate your opinion. can't really speak for design, but from a dev pov, it's not intentional. we didn't redesign to "throw best practices/standards/accessiblity" out the window. as I mentioned before, a lot of things going behind the scenes are being reworked to better support us devs moving forward. we're also an extremely small team and there's only so much we can catch, but we're working hard to address those legitimate issues!

don't have the time to respond to everything, so please keep leaving suggestions here, we read em :)

[pseudo lake]

Just in the interest of keeping thing organized, #🚧┃suggestions-layout is a great place for suggestions, complaints, advice, everything related to the new UI ❤️

[leaden marlin]

Train a AI on song lyrics, instead of using ChatGPT API. lyrics Suno creates are very cringey and screams AI. A Ai trained only for song lyrics will probably be much better.

[hollow locust]

I know, right? LLMs are hot-garbage when it comes to writing song lyrics.

[sage mirage]

I don't NEON what you are talking about

[hollow locust]

Instrumentals, for me at least, almost never 'outro', and it'd be nice if they did.

[small junco]

i can't lie, i've had to make a custom GPT by training it on song structures and lyrical styles I enjoy so it can pull the style and then write about whatever I ask it which has helped a lot. currently standard chatgpt seems to be generating lyrics in a verse 1, verse 2, chorus, bridge, verse 4, chorus format which makes NO sense and rlly fudges up the suno output and how the track flows so if you're using suno's autogenerated lyrics currently, that also doesn't help!

[sage mirage]

Using AI is fine and dandy and maybe even cool and sophisticated. Most people probably won't notice, but fully-AI lyrics have tells
Kinda like baseline generative AI has a certain look

and I don't mean extra fingers or whatever, there is an overall tinge to lots of AI work

It doesn't have to be there, of course, and if it's anime I can't tell because I don't anime

[pseudo lake]

Such lengths taken to include such awkward choices of words simply because the rhyme "scored better" or somet similar internal metric.

[sage mirage]

Most people don't care, and they don't have to. If they make stuff and people like it, then it becomes me going "No don't like that it's LAZY "
and nobody wants to be that guy

..but I am. Inside

[small junco]

100%. i even get that with suno, i'll spend hours generating ideas, pulling together songs i like and then taking those ideas and producing them into full new songs from scratch for quality, uniqueness etc. obviously not everyone can do that (or wants to) and suno therefore helps them make the song completely, but its also definitely cool how many ppl use tools in such different ways.

[hollow locust]

I do anime, and the AI generated anime stuff also has tells... Like you say, just a generally 'off' kind of a vibe, even when it gets hands, etc right.

[sage mirage]

Yeah I don't doubt, but since that isn't what my eyes look at all the time I just go
"Ya that's a pretty girl alright"

It's always a pretty lady

[small junco]

ironically, i find suno generates rock / metal styles in a lot more of a realistic way than digitally produced styles like pop/edm where it tries to hallucinate frequencies to 'fill up' the tracks more / make them louder

[fluid kayak]

this maybe a dumb question but are there plans to add your own instruments like my own drums or bass guitar? sorry if this treads on the point of suno

[royal venture]

Pick 1 or the other

[hallow frost]

whatever happens when i hit reuse prompt is golden though - one big screen for everything is awesome

[sage mirage]

I happened to be in fullscreen mode on my ultrawide and went

The first time that happened

[hallow frost]

yeah that kinda makes the immobile frames workable for me but i did like resizing the frames

you cant do ASCII art with 40 character rows

[fallen moss]

I just want to echo this statement. I've run Product and Engineering at multiple companies and this run down is bang on what I felt (and still do) about the site changes. If I was brand new to Suno, I can't guarantee that I'd have continued using it past the first few minutes becausee of the UI/UX.

But... I'm a supporter of Suno and love it so here I am. Honestly it feels like some dots just didn't connect here and the reception from everyone shows that.

I hope that you guys are serious about taking the feedback being provided by the community because we all want to see Suno continue to succeed.

I'd also recommend hiring a Product Manager and/or designer, if you don't already have one. Just my two cents.

[desert whale]

Hi guys, is there anyway to get suno to not play a lead instrument by default when making instrumentals? I.e if I’m trying to generate an instrumental funk soul track to sing over, by default there’s usually a sax or some other instrument playing lead.

[fallen moss]

I would recommend asking in #💬┃general-chat or #📚┃suno-school

[wicked hound]

i'd love a little beep or tone or something if possible to let us know that generations are done

[robust jewel]

Style suggestion: Work Song seems to just create pop music, Chain Gang seems to just create rap. This isn't exactly a browser specific suggestion, but it doesn't really fit IOS or Layout either, so I assume it belongs here?

[mortal garnet]

This new design looks like made by someone who never actually used the product.

[pseudo lake]

The previous behavior was to forcibly move the current library view to include songs that had just finished generating.

Became pretty annoying when you were generating ~10 songs at once while trying to listen to earlier generations -- your screen would just keep bouncing away from what you're trying click on & listen to 😛

I like the idea of some form of A/V notification, like how the iOS app notifies at the top of the screen.

[mortal garnet]

I don't understand how, with so many complaints about the new design, you don't simply have the courage to pull the ripcord and switch back to the old design immediately. It feels like we're on Google / Youtube here. really unfortunate...

[glass barn]

Change back to the old browser version whenever you want

[nimble kestrel]

I love suno, and hate to say it, but u agree,new ui is not good fam

[worn atlas]

You said "made by someone who never actually used the product" ?

[celest plaza]

pls let us switch option to old thema 🙏 i dont like the new thema

[shadow crater]

How, i have nothing found? for me it is much do dark, depressive. Normal this option should be under the gear? - not found ther.

[untold shuttle]

I write it again. The small space between the player and the Create button for Mobile users makes it nearly impossible to handle the player’s progress bar. Now you have to have smaaal fingers to not voting or press the Create button by mistake.

[uncut otter]

wtf

ok so if you write a well-structured complaint the bot deletes because you're supposed to keep it "short and sweet", great

i guess i can do this then

also, whoever thought "slightly brighter grey" thumbs buttons were an upgrade over the clearly visible yellow ones should reconsider their priorities in UX in my opinion...

[pseudo lake]

It doesn’t like spacing of more than 1 line, it might also flag specific types of formatting.

As an aside, your formatting is very readable, which greatly emphasizes your point, regardless of situation.

[thin ermine]

Mass selection is definitely not a thing yet since we can only select what's displayed on any given page ( ::grumble:: ), but Multi-Select does work for trashing files or adding them to a playlist, at least in desktop browsers. You can hold the control key and click on multiple files, or click on the first one, hold shift, and then click on the last one to select a contiguous group.

[uncut otter]

oh lord, thank you so much!!!!!!!!

[pseudo lake]

As well as ctrl+a to select all songs on the page if the focus is on the song section of the browser (like if you've just clicked a song)

[thin ermine]

Ooh! I didn't know that one

[pseudo lake]

Yeah, it grabs the outside UI text if the songs aren't in context, but super useful until we get more advanced filtering or organizational tools.

[somber bobcat]

Bir Bilsen !.
Ahh bir bilsen!.
Sahillerine hep çıkmazların vurduğunu
Yıllarda bunca sözün,
Anlamsız geldiğini.
Bir bilsen yüreğim!.
Onca kaçışın ayaklarına dolandığını
Bir bilsen be çocuk!.
Rüzgarlar estiren,
Fırtına koparan ruhum
Bir bilsen yağmurda beklemeyi
Zamanın yarışını,
Saatin arsız kovalamasını
Barışık, karışık cümlelerimi
Tılsım bozulmuş
Solmuş renklerimi bir bilsen ✍️

[lusty blaze]

Same with the Fonts. I love the new design but the multiple fonts have to go.

Suggestion - Please start thinking of this product more as a songwriters/musicians tool than a program to just make songs. We need more granularity like Negative Prompts and ways to re-roll the way the lyrics are sung over the music, or the music is written under the melody. Or instrument swap like a re-take maybe costing half the creds. A set of Keep/Retake buttons on stems. Right now we have a great sounding Stereo recording rig..but we need multi-track!!

[pseudo lake]

Oof, I hear you. A negative prompt section is one of the most highly rated known-suggestions at the moment https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253341197917884530 , can't wait for that 😄

[twin cypress]

I really despise the new suno web design can we go back to the old yet or is that not a possibility?

I don't see myself renewing sub if this is the new norm.

As much as I love the product

I'm also not trying to be a jerk about it but it's universally despised.

[thin ermine]

Seems pretty unlikely at this point. The best we can do make specific suggestions and report all of the bugs.

[twin cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/head-in-the-sand-gif-12598847

[thin ermine]

...and I definitely feel you on the subscription. I'm back to being a free user myself for a bit.

[twin cypress]

It's got the wow guild feels of someone letting their girlfriend do it.

and ruining it

[pseudo lake]

Do you have any different suggestions regarding the browser, or is it just to go back to the old UI?

The devs are actively reaching out in #🚧┃suggestions-layout if you want to chirp directly at them, but echoing public opinion in other channels doesn't speed up the process 🤷‍♂️

[mossy gust]

I agree with the others that the new UI is not comfortable to use. There are some issues with legibility, and the play button disappears when a song is finishing. It's particularly uncomfortable to use on a laptop. While making the interface more colorful is fine, it's important to consider people with visual impairments as well.

[mossy gust]

oh... I'm going to try there

[royal venture]

• make album cover uploads, or generated follow the new vertical size

• Make this view of cover, which i got with phone in landscape, the default

[pseudo lake]

Please do! I hope the redirections don't seem like trying to discourage discussion on the matter, because it seems like the devs genuinely want feedback on the matter.

You're absolutely right that accessibility needs to be taken into consideration (contrast, sizing, etc.) -- a constructive voice with well thought suggestions can make the world of difference, especially given the appropriate channels ❤️

Hope you're having a good day 🙂

[dim sleet]

It is suggested that Suno could provide the option to download the created songs with separate tracks for music and vocals.

[lusty blaze]

Yes, Stems are highly suggested.

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253172964728377455 another highly rated known-suggestion — upvote the post for further visibility! 🙂

[tacit mist]

change this to somehting other than white. cant see it at all since its a tiny icon and most thumbnails are white already

[lusty blaze]

Um...haven't seen a white icon since I started using Suno 2 months ago.

[uncut otter]

what is the difference between #💡┃suggestions-web and #🚧┃suggestions-layout ?

[pseudo lake]

The layout channel is a new addition made specifically for feedback regarding the UX/UI layout

It's not that UI stuff isn't a browser suggestion, it's just that there's a more specific, better location for that sort of feedback. For instance, if someone had an issue downloading a .wav, instead of coming here and suggesting that the download feature be looked into, it would be more effective to post in the bugs-browser channel. (even more effective if they checked the known-bugs and upvoted that existing post!)

[kindred hull]

A simple usability fix...

If you create a song, then start Play to hear it, but then you create more songs, the playlist stops at the last song available WHEN YOU PRESSED PLAY, no the last song available in the Create list.

[cobalt current]

Adding activity tracking functionality, here's a sketch, the idea is to track user's reusing prompts, you can integrate further tracking systematically

Suggestion: Suggestion Tracker

[zenith rivet]

Songs created using audio input are often not available to the public because they include vocals. However, these vocals are frequently misidentified. My suggestion is:

If a song made with audio input is set to be made public by someone, it should first be sent for review. If the song contains vocals, the moderator can reject it. However, if the input does not contain vocals, the song should be made public after the review.
By this we can easily make way cooler songs and share them.

[topaz eagle]

In general it would be nice to filter by "own uploaded" stuff.

so I don't to scroll thousand of pages to find that

[tacit mist]

i make mostly instrumentals so thats prob why

[tacit mist]

every time i upload something i add it to a playlist

good workaround

[topaz eagle]

the playlist ui is buggy af ^^' maybe when they fixed the playlist ui I would like to use it

but it puts the stuff multiple times inside thats annoying

[halcyon vale]

can you add a feature that when you delete your songs you get refunded credits

[thin ermine]

Do you mean ANY song, regardless of when it was created? Or songs that you delete before they even finish generating?

[small junco]

this wouldnt rlly make much sense bcos it still cost you the credits to make the song in the first place, even if you dont like it, the AI still used resources to make it, it doesnt know what is good and bad past the prompting that you tell it

[glad steppe]

add a prompt for custom albumart option perhaps for 1 credit?

the auto generated don’t always match that well

[small junco]

three dots next to song -> Edit Details -> Add New Image lets you generate a new one with a prompt of your choosing :)

[glad steppe]

only pro feature i guess

[thin ermine]

Yea, I can't see them doing that. But if the video is trashed before the rendering is complete, it'd be nice not to be charged the full amount. When I'm doing a song in sections/extensions, I usually know within 15 to 20 seconds of listening whether it's worth keeping. Most of those get trashed immediately and they can still have a few more minutes of rendering left. Rendering should stop as soon as the file is trashed (tho I don't think that it currently does). Sucks getting charged the full amount for that.

[small junco]

yeah definitely, its one of those nice-to-haves but wouldnt work as well practicality-wise. i definitely think it would be nice to get some sort of refund or free retry attempt for the same prompt or similar if you trash it before its finished!

esp when you are doing extensions that are only like 30 second parts at once, getting charged the full amount for 10 variations you dont even want to use can definitely be annoying

[glad steppe]

the actual generation is usually a few seconds for the ai, it is converting to a playable format that takes so long.

[small junco]

and i 100% agree with the rendering stopping on a file being trashed fyi , that seems like a rlly smart and resource-saving decision

[thin ermine]

That's most of my songs. lol

[small junco]

i need to experiment with doing that more tbh, i usually try and prompt for a full song and judge it off that but i want to get into more customising and working in-depth on songs with more prompting and deciding how each individual part should be

[thin ermine]

I'll usually try for a single shot with songs that have vocals, but stuff like guitar-driven rock/metal instrumentals... I do those in pieces.

[tribal pine]

Can we have a reuse button, similar to extend, but it just reuse the beat so we can apply new lyrics? and the length isn't only 1minute? I feel sometimes you get a crazy beat, but the lyrics aren't well done, and only way to reuse is extend and concatenate songs together, kind of a pain.

[vale bramble]

It's great that v3.5 can create 5 minute songs in one click, but I'd rather have an option that still limits it to 2 minutes, or any length because while using v3, I used a lot of cuts, edits, I sometimes used only 15-20 seconds of a song and continued from that. but in v3.5, it creates 4 minute songs no matter what and I wait much longer than I had to while using v3, just to use the first minute or so of the song, and extend from that. can a length limit be added?

[thin ermine]

Please, for the love of all that is musical, add a search function to the trash. Searching through 725 pages of trashed clips to find an accidentally deleted song was a real drag.

[misty basalt]

I think I'd really like inpainting for the music, rather than having to redo an entire song from a given start point.

[idle lava]

Would be great if there will be a possibility to regenerate the same song (alike extend function, but for the whole song) with changing vocals and everything.... you know...

[near drum]

On user profiles, can just the top row of playlists be shown by default? Then add a "show more" button to expand if you want to see more like we have on the homepage

[fluid burrow]

Separate vocals from instrumental pleaseeee you already have the technology, add the buttonsss 🙏

[weak arrow]

This seems like a simple ask, I wonder if anyone else agrees. I don’t like feeling like I have to spam the suggestions to get some feedback on my songs, could you guys add a public comment section for each song made public??

[hollow locust]

Have singers always enunciate their final 't's. Revolutionary concept, I know.
"Blazing he'
long and bri'
...
play till ni'"
sounds ridiculous.

[sly blade]

Suggestion for Audio upload:

USE AS REFERENCE:
Use an audio file only as reference rather than as the actual song beginning. E.g.: I play some notes on my piano and it will implement that melody somewhere (maybe better than i played it) and make a song out of it

[thin ermine]

That can happen with the existing upload feature if you leave some silence at the end of the upload clip, tho Suno can also apparently decide that I just suck at playing the guitar, wander off and do it's own thing. 😄 So, yeah... it'd be nice to be able to reinforce that we want it to be used for inspiration.

[sly blade]

sometimes if i do that, it thinks that it's the end of the piece and gives me some random melody xDD

[modern summit]

hello, i have a suggestion: have the possibility to give more precisions on what you like or dislike about a generation. there are a lot of generations i have to dislike because there is only some part i like but can't use because of the rest. also, have the eventual possibility to mix some liked generations, or use a specific timestamp that you liked so the next generation can reproduce it or something. i need to delete at least 80% of my generations because of dislikes

[thin ermine]

Yea, I've had it generate completely different melodies, but sometimes... just sometimes, it'll incorporate bits and pieces from my upload

[potent folio]

I'll use gpt go condense this into text actually

[heavy mantle]

hey guys, hope u r doing great, today i was working on something that maybe can be useful for the custom mode.

It has a bug where the Structures drop down is not being populated... maybe tomorrow i can fix it.. im tired today :p

[potent folio]

Currently, it appears that the radio station feature, which generates playlists based on a selected song, may be missing out on a wealth of diverse content.

From my observations, songs that cannot make it onto the main trending page, possibly due to not safe for work (NSFW) content or other reasons, are excluded from the radio stations. This content filtering seems to be guided by a language learning model (LLM), which users have learned to game by repeatedly submitting and tweaking their songs until they receive approval.

While I acknowledge the improvements in the radio function due to user likes and dislikes, I believe that its popularity and effectiveness could be significantly enhanced by including all content. The current LLM, which appears to have a preference for certain styles, particularly those with four-line chunk formats, might unintentionally promote a narrow type of music creation. This can lead to two main issues:

1. Overfitting and Homogeneity: Encouraging a specific format might result in overfitting issues with the model, reducing its ability to generalize and create varied music. This homogeneity stifles creativity and limits the range of musical styles on the platform.

2. Limiting Artistic Expression: By censoring certain content, you might be inadvertently excluding innovative and impactful music. Historically, groundbreaking artists like Tupac Shakur might have been sidelined by such filters. This self-censorship is not only unnecessary but also potentially detrimental to discovering new talent. Furthermore, attempts to gear content towards specific markets, such as by avoiding NSFW content, have shown limited success in penetrating diverse audiences, particularly in the U.S.

In summary, I propose that Suno allows a broader range of content in the radio function. This would not only enhance the diversity and richness of the music available but also avoid the pitfalls of overfitting and censorship.

gpt transcribed my word salad

for you

I want to note that in my video I believe I misspoke: two songs which are semantically the same but syntactically different will have different outcomes.

Also, the model was a little more broad, but more specifically, Tupac would be totally absent from any internal method of discovery on the platform, as would Allen ginsburg had he decided to set his poetry to music.

or basically any meaningful poet of the 21st century, from Merwin up to rich homie quan

this may be already moot btw

if such things have been lifted, but since you all are launching apps, I think it's worth examining, as the like dislike function will make the stations much stronger at finding music similar if such restrictions are lifted, and thus users can "self-wall" pretty quickly

ie if actual gangster rap is showing up on a k-pop rap track, users who are offended will thumbs down, the model will learn the distinction, and then the radio is better for it

[upper canopy]

I don't like the new title font 😕 It's hard to read and doesn't fit. Please change that to something sans-serif

[near drum]

What is the deal with these "Categories"? These pictures make no sense. The Metal image is a dude who got shoved into the trunk of a car. Blues is a lady laying on the floor. Classical is a lady with her eyes closed. They're just weird stock images thrown onto the site. Then you have these playlists themselves which are never updated and feature very few songs which are very outdated.

[tacit mist]

zack morris the king of jazz

[pseudo lake]

"you get saved by the bells that you don't hear." 🫰 🫰 🫰 🪇

[stone cobalt]

I thought this channel for suggestions on browser, so I posted the suggestion to technical channel. Now I am correcting the mistake... I have compared udio with Suno and I think Suno is definitely easier to use, because in udio it takes so long to complete a song. So now I would suggest to Suno, let user can generate first 15-30 seconds as a sample how the suggested song could look. Suno could create up to 4 short samples. Possibly - and it would be yet better - if it could create two voices (samples) separately for two instrumental (samples) songs. The user would select which song he/shw wants to work with in the next step. If Suno would generate vocals and instruments as separated stems/tracks then the user would select one voice and one instrumental song which together will create the complete sample to start with... Do you know what I mean. You can have like files 1) branch A - voice.wav, 2) branch A - instruments.wav, 3) branch B - voice.wav, 4) branch B - instruments.wav ... or something on the way. A must fit A. B must fit B. Is the user is not content, he will just generate new samples A branch, new samples B branch. And then he will select the correct files wither from branch A or from branch B. Do you got it? So this is first step. And he will use the prompt, style and title to describe what he want's to generate so in the case that the sample represents the beging of the song, Suno will extend the samples to 4 minutes length. In the case that the sample is just somewhere in the middle like refrain, Suno will generate complete song including intro, verses and the rest.

[distant spear]

I think the ability to generate songs using your own uploaded music and AI generating lyrics for the uploaded music would be amazing to use, the same thing doing it the other way around.

[stone cobalt]

I also need that Suno can read notes ... something like this: [Clef: treble]
[Measure: 2/4]
[Tempo: 1/4 = 65]
[Rhythm: 4x 8th]

A3, C, A3, C
Гей десь там, де
E.-E(16th) D-C
чор-ні во-ди,

A3 D(16th) D(16th)-A3 D-F. F(16th)-E-D
Сів на ко-ня ко-зак мо-ло-дий.
A3-C A3-C-E. E(16th)-D-C
Пла-че мо-ло-да дів-чи-на,
E.-F(16th) E+D(16th)-C+B3(16th) A3-B3-C-D
Ї-де ко-зак з У-кра-ї-ни.

Maybe to add some extra pair tags like [notes][/notes]... [treble][/treble] [bass][/bass] or [notes][treble][/treble] [bass][/bass][/notes] to be able to transmit the complex notes which are played simultanously on each beat. It could serve to to read complex sections like there: https://homin.etnoua.info/wp-content/gallery/homin_noty_pobutovi/Hej-sokoly_v7_NOTY_0001.png Anyway it still could be hard to implement reading notes like that https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1rCay4FhS2xWO8uNatSiXFSWzi5sAwL7emW0BqljD1IGuPklAGY3P251DpzBcHjN5bP5Ch7PE7MX7cUbbq5yS4tynrCbG3pIeYuh3mqZzDhQ_C3NTjJJjm2Ch5AGBt08pNNkz8UJOwoSJpNadlNi4iKmFaODVtM6pLyZBt4eB7PzW1rKUNuTYVFRdzO2a/s719/hope of implementation notes reading.png

[small junco]

maybe in 20 years it will be able to do this 😅

[pseudo lake]

I think Moore's Law didn't take AI advancements into consideration -- I'm not an ML expert, but if you were making a specialized model instead of a generalized model, it would probably be a lot easier to take care of this issue

[velvet vector]

It would be super cool if there was a filter to only show full songs in the library

[small junco]

this is kind of a browser and kind of a layout suggestion mashup, but the ability to access the contents of the three-dots menu by also right-clicking on the blank space where you have a song selected in your library (eg anywhere that isnt a button or text) would be rlly helpful and intuitive than just having the three-dots to access it

currently for me it just brings up the default browser right-click

[sage mirage]

Unless there is some element in the background that we can't see, anything with two parts mashed together is a 'full song'

[pseudo lake]

I think they mean being able to click a button and only see the results of "Get Whole Song", as unless you give them a thumbs up or add them to a playlist, you sometimes need to search through LOTS of experimental tracks to find your desired content.

[sage mirage]

Right yeah my mistake then, that would be nice

If only to cut down on what you are seeing. Still useful

[pseudo lake]

ANY form of filtering is desperately needed instead of specific search phrases -- I'd love filtering or sorting by model, alphabetically, chronologically, prompt length (character count), anything

[sage mirage]

[pseudo lake]

This should also apply to the trash bin so @thin ermine doesn't need to search through 700 literal pages of trash to find a song he accidentally trashed 😭

🐦‍⬛

[sage mirage]

How about "last trashed" for the trash bin itself

I have no idea how that place is laid out

None of it makes sense, why am I seeing v2 gens on the first page

[pseudo lake]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-george-costanza-gif-27012803

[sage mirage]

[near kindle]

hey guys idk if anyone else has this issue but sometimes amongst the gens I have a hard time tracking what I finished when I do it in the heat of the moment but have to abandon the work bcuz of outside issues.

so can we have like a filter for "full song" gens?

that we got the whole song

theres liked theres public but I wish there should be a full song that only lists what have the tag "full song"

or u could just have it seperatly so we have part 2-3 so on and full song

anyway u know what i mean

[pseudo lake]

@sage mirage , maybe you could make a #1252298754787377225 for library filtering? Surprised it's not been thrown up there already for visibility

[pseudo lake]

😛 KakerMix, Pervin96 and I were just talking about that, seems like a popular idea 🙂

[small junco]

that timing was incredible

[stone cobalt]

I expect there is not just one model. Consider how many models has OpenVino. Anyway, the model responsible for reading text instructions needs to be fine tuned to understand these instructions. Devs are using data to train better versions of Suno model so I hope this is possible.

[near kindle]

knew i could count on my kake

[sage mirage]

I am extremely dumb and old and my lawn, off it but maybe

[pseudo lake]

I just noticed that guides can do it as well, and I feel bad for always pestering 3Daizy 😛 🌼

[mystic stirrup]

could be nice to be able to preview wav files before upload and to autocut the first 60 sec instead of being rejected like a loser.

[teal cloak]

Overall the biggest wish I have is if I could get the music and the audio on separate downloadable tracks. That would be MONEY 🤑

[sage mirage]

Can only be done afterwards since Suno doesn't have seperate tracks. It's why they can't be shared, they don't exist

Suno only works in master

However it is an often requested feature so some sort of internal tool to break them apart afterwards is certainly coming

and is still a valid suggestion. Just letting you know why we don't have them yet

[balmy remnant]

Hello, would be nice to train suno on more folk music (mizwad, darbouka, zokra..) for arabic popular music. Thank u!!

[worn atlas]

Whatever Suno does, the challenge will be to obtain the different tracks with good quality. When using external tools, the sound obtained after separation is poor.

[sage mirage]

and it's also why this isn't avaiable yet either, the quality isn't good enough for Suno's internal standards

[worn atlas]

Yes. Music consists of a complex mix of frequencies and overlapping sound waves from different instruments and vocals. Separating these accurately is challenging because the components are not easily distinguishable.

[ember oxide]

"Reverse Prompt" upload an audio file to make a prompt?

Like when I upload it and it says (no style) under it, it gets me thinking

[pseudo lake]

I know they mean "this upload doesn't have any prompts associated with it" but it comes across like they're throwing shade on your taste in music.

[ember oxide]

wait i didn't think about that 💀

[pseudo lake]

"Hey Suno, what do you think of this song I wrote for you?"
no style

[sage mirage]

[pseudo lake]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-hmm-come-again-excuse-me-key-and-peele-gif-16137591

[paper pond]

I feel there should be a tab separated from the lyrics to see original prompting for a song.

This way you can clean up the lyrics so that they show correctly and are easy to read but still be able to see what was fed into the AI to result in the song.

My lyrics are a complete mess because I splice a lot on most songs. It would be nice to add a comprehensive set of lyrics to read. Trying to follow along as it is now is difficult and sometimes just plain wrong if lyrics were altered mid song.

||Also square song art... please come back...||

[sage mirage]

A good suggestion and one I've made before, certainly others as well. So you can present your song as you'd like, but users can still see the original song as it was

[lilac badger]

It would be nice to have something like a negative prompt added

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253341197917884530 upvote the known-suggestion so the devs can see how many people want it!

[sage mirage]

tony mentioned negative prompting in the context of would we use it if it cost more

This was months and months ago now

Something about how it's a triple generation if you were to allow negative prompting, it isn't 'free'

[small junco]

i think so. its a very popular suggestion that a lot of ppl want to use and obviously as long as its made clear that it costs extra to add negative prompts, i think it will be widely and responsibly used. anyone who doesnt want to spend extra credits on it just wont ofc but i think theres enough traction for it to be worth adding imo.

the most probably use case for it is ppl not using it, and just prompting as normal and when they find a close prompt to what they want that delivers great results but has <that instrument or influence> that they dont want that keeps cropping up, thats when they'd try negative prompting that thing ?

[pseudo lake]

I'd be in favour of an "advanced" panel that has additional server-heavy options that would cost a bit extra or take longer to generate -- the iOS app is geared toward new > casual users, the web app is geared toward casual > intermediate users, and this would cater to intermediate > advanced.

[small junco]

ohhh thats a super good idea actually, i'd like to see that

[sleek abyss]

I would like to be able to edit the lyrics section post-complete song. It just stacks all the lyrics in a row and isn't remotely useful as a lyrics sheet or as prompting assistance.

And the thing I always suggest, a song remaster/upgrade/cover feature that lets us take songs we've already made and shift their genre or just render new, cleaner versions in later models.

"This tune, new lyrics" "these lyrics, new tune" "same tune and lyrics, different arrangement and instrumentation, etc."

[thin ermine]

It's worse now, if you can even imaging that. Unless the trashed clip just happens to be on Page 1, there's ZERO chance of recovery because the trash's page navigation buttons no longer work. They're greyed out, show the prohibition symbol on mouse-over and do nothing when clicked.

Two steps back, one step back. 😄

[tidal spear]

Hello, i have an idea its a must for those who use Arabic language to generate songs, arabic have more accents than english so each country pronounce the words different than the others, mainly the common one is the Egyptian language for songs its the most poplar, so i guess the AI needs to be injected with a lot of this type of songs its going to be very powerful and more efficient.

[hollow locust]

For Suno to work the way LLMs seem to think it works when you explain it to them.

E.G.:
[Intro]
A lone trumpet plays a melancholic, haunting melody over a soft drum brush, setting a noir atmosphere.

[Verse 1]
The full band kicks in with a swinging rhythm. A walking bass line and piano chords provide the foundation, while muted brass punctuates key phrases.

[Chorus]
The tempo picks up slightly. The brass section becomes more prominent, with call-and-response patterns between the trumpet and saxophone. The drums switch to a more driving beat.

[Verse 2]
Returns to the swinging rhythm of the first verse, but with added layers of instrumentation building tension.

[Bridge]
A sudden shift to a bluesy feel. The piano takes center stage with a rolling boogie-woogie style, supported by finger snaps and a thumping bass.

[Chorus]
Full band returns with increased intensity. The brass section plays more aggressively, with the drummer incorporating more fills and crashes.

[Outro]
The music gradually fades, returning to the lone trumpet from the intro, but now with a hint of hope in the melody.

[gilded arch]

First post, so my apologies if this has already been suggested- but one thing that really keeps me from posting anything on Suno as "public" is** the lack of ability to hide lyrics** (both because sometimes I do not want to display them, and other times the song has been generated soo many times that the lyrics no longer are accurate),** the lack of ability to edit lyrics in the preview** (in the event I want to share lyrics, I want them to be the right ones), **and no way to disable the "extension" feature for other users **(I do not necessarily want others to be able to extend my creations).

[worldly pagoda]

We need a “describe” feature if possible and applicable. How it works?

You upload a song/music. It describes the style used, parameters, approximately not exactly at least, so we can generate similar style.

[daring bane]

Ok after playing with suno for a month I got some feedback to give about this website.

First, a very simple feature that NEEDS to be implemented is the ability to CANCEL a submission. There were numerous times where I made a mistake and that I wanted to undo the submission. This is a feature that should have been implemented since the start of the project.

Second, this is more advanced, but it should be possible to edit lyrics, at least edit one or two words. I can’t tell you how many times I have written a word that is plural but I wanted the word to be singular and when making the edits it creates a completely different song.

[floral tulip]

We should add a gifting service where we can gift credits

[pseudo lake]

😦 I asked for the same thing, but there's red tape & considerations to be made because of stupid finance stuff. I'd love to be able to give someone 50 of my credits to experiment with some of the ideas I give them (so they don't need to feel like they're "wasting" credits if it doesn't give them what they wanted), but there's always people who would take advantage of it.

Regardless, I'm still in favour of this, and would desperately love to see it implemented

[floral tulip]

Cool

[paper pond]

I thought about the gifting credits as well but then I thought about people making accounts just to get more credits on their main. I suppose a work around would be to only allow subscribed accounts to gift?

[floral tulip]

Ya

And we should have an event like make music that fits a theme to get free credits for winning like a contest

And maybe be able to make free music

[paper pond]

Yeah it would be nice to earn credits somehow besides buying them.

[floral tulip]

Yes spread the word

[pseudo lake]

There's a known-suggestion for it, but it's worded in a way that makes it seem like users should earn credits simply for listening to music, and it adds unnecessary details about how users should be able to spend credits to advertise their song (seems like the idea was expanded on by chatgpt instead of the community suggestions that were raised at the time).

Imo, I think a basic interaction, like earning 10 credits each day for liking 5 unique songs or something would be more likely.

[tidal spear]

anyone consider this ?

[mystic stirrup]

it would be nice to have the BPM and key of the generated song

[spiral tusk]

There are tools online where you can upload your music (or a short sample of it) and it'll find the BPM for you. Though yeah, I agree it'd be nice for it to be a Suno feature.

[mystic stirrup]

Thanks 🙂 yes it would be better in terms of workflow to have it directly included in the name of the generated file.

[kindred hull]

I have suggestion related to promotion.

I have recently created some songs based on poems (of public domain, of course), and I think it may be a good idea of promoting Suno as a mean of bringing truly works of art to new generation. For instance, catchy R&B songs or dance hymns could be created using the lyrics from Shakespeare, Baudelaire and the like. For instance, creating a contest and giving it to promotion maybe a good marketing move.

[dreamy sigil]

**Suggestions **
Updating my previous post.

Changes from my previous message (That I'm replying to with this message):
*- Suggestion #6 was put out today! NICE.

• Suggestion #7 was kind of implemented with the "Known suggestions" channel. I still think this channel should be a forum
• Suggestion #9 we can kind of add notes by editing the lyrics so today's the new feature covers this I think.*

1) Set playlist order not based on current criteria.

2) Add filters for Suno version used. Include an on/off parameter for songs to declare if they are finalized, allowing filtering of finished or unfinished songs in playlist searches.

3) Include an option to "hide" songs from profile overview. Older songs with high views can still be accessed in a playlist named "Old Songs" but won't appear in the profile overview.

4) Enable song trimming, allowing users to cut the start or end like YouTube's feature.
   4.1) Introduce the ability to adjust voice and music volume using key points on two tracks, enabling fine-tuning of voice and music balance.

5) Expand showcase channels on Discord, categorized by major music styles such as Pop, Metal, Electro, Rock, Rap, etc., to facilitate easier discovery of new songs by genre.

6) Introduce the option to self-boost songs for credits. Include a section on the Suno homepage for boosted songs, where users can pay credits to have their song highlighted for a set period, with a queue system and estimated posting time.

7) Provide a clear list of supported statement tags in the help section. Investigate issues with the [End] tag listed on the Suno wiki.

8) Implement track layers similar to Photoshop, allowing users to add additional vocal or instrumental layers on top of the generated track.

9) Enable gifting of credits or monthly subscriptions, as well as credit trading between users.

10) Allow for switching between male and female voices, possibly using designated tags such as [Voice Signer1], [Voice Signer2], [Male Voice], and [Female Voice], with support for multiple signers. Investigate and address any inconsistencies in voice switching functionality.

11) Somewhere in your profile page, Would be nice to have a history of your songs that hit the front page (Trending) This can be motivating. I'm sure some of us out here may of had a song trending and didn't even notice. 
So a history page with:
- Song name.
- The period it was trending for, so we know how long it was trending.
- Top position it reached in the trending
Also to add to this.. when a song is currently Trending, on that songs page you should have a temporary tag "Currently trending"

12) If your on the page of a song that was deleted, you should be able to restore the song from the song page. having to navigate 80 + pages in my trash to find it when its already open is kinda annoying.

13. Implement a search feature to the trash maybe? or make it so the last song deleted is on page one. its very unclear how this trash is ordered.

[pseudo lake]

With the idea of "advertising" or "boosting" songs with credits, can you elaborate on how many people are forced to view your content?

What if more people advertise than there are places for advertisement?

If someone isn't satisfied with the results of their boost (say no one cares to listen to their song), should they be entitled to any form of compensation?

[dreamy sigil]

1 -2 horus boosting or something like that

first come first serv

only show x number at a time if the current display is full you gotta wait for one to expire

you can queue your song up

and ull have an idea... how many songs are in line before yours

[dreamy sigil]

its a gamble. if you dont get many views you picked the wrong time to boost your song. and you lose your credits... you paied for a service... to be avertised and you got what you payed for

i left the idea kinda open so suno can decide how that wana do this

i was kinda feeling 1000 credits for 1 hour or so

[small junco]

ok so this is interesting. there's a music collaboration platform called SKIO that allows users to 'boost' their work, and depending on how much they're willing to spend, it will push their content to a certain amount of ppl. i did $60 for a song once which i think equated to 8000 impressions. these ppl are shown your song but not forced to listen to it, so youre paying for exposure. depending on how many ads are being run at one time or how busy the site is, the cost per impression will decrease/increase (eg at a busier time, $60 might only show to 4000 ppl). your song would be shown on the front page to say 4/10 users, and as a 'suggested / next up' track to another 6/10 users. there is no compensation if you aren't happy with the results as you chose to take the risk of boosting, knowing that there's no guarantee you will receive any particular results.

in terms of more ppl wanting to advertise at some point than advertising slots available, it could work similar to facebook ads where each 'boost' has a certain bid amount so advertising works like an auction. out of a certain block of ads that could be shown in one place, the person who is willing to spend the most per one ad impression gets placed. their system is designed to allow you to pay the lowest possible amount that still wins you the bid. e.g. If your highest-bidding competitor set their maximum bid to $1, and you set yours to $1.5, you’ll only need to pay $1.01 to win the bid, not the full $1.5 amount.

tbf if there was a more intuitive liking system and the ability to comment on other ppl's works, leaving a comment on someone's boosted song could give them a couple of credits in return from the amount spent for boosting in the first place to encourage meaningful engagement and give ppl more of a reason to boost too

[pseudo lake]

I was more trying to suggest how overly complicated this would be to implement, and instead of being a "fun way to promote your songs", people would expect results similar to running an advertisement before a Youtube video. Credits == real money, and 1000 extra credits costs $8 -- it becomes a lot less "fun" when you spend $8 with "a captive audience" being the product that you're purchasing, except there's an entire wing of Alphabet/Google dedicated to researching demographics to make sure that the appropriate ads are shown to the appropriate people, and even then most of them choose to ignore the content.

By all means however, share feedback and fun creative ideas-- if it's ever going to come around, this kind of discussion has to happen somewhere, behind or in front of closed doors.

It's easy to run wild with the idea of "earning credits" beyond your daily allowance, but I'm also cognizant of the difference between when I asked for $20 to help with basic chores (because I really didn't understand how money worked back then, and that sounded like a good amount to me), and what the value of a dollar is in today's world (in whatever form it takes, someone's time & attention, daily "free" credits, food, internet meme points, etc)

[small junco]

that's very true, it would be extremely difficult to try and pinpoint how exactly that would work and what would come out of it. i like the idea and defo wanted to give my opinions based on a similar experience in the past but with such a specific topic and service like this, it's gonna be difficult to get right i feel, esp with the monetary aspect

[pseudo lake]

I feel like I was a Debbie Downer without some personal context -- to reel back my Devil's Advocate, in defense of the idea, I don't "waste time" on an idea that doesn't resonate with me in some way or another. Even if I'm spending however long seemingly "ripping into it", it's critical analysis that I'm essentially hoping for someone to come back and give a potential solution for. So many good ideas get left on the table because they don't make it to/through this type of rigorous examination of an idea, or subjecting it to a stress test.

[small junco]

that makes sense, and honestly everyone writing anything here that's more than "no" or "that sucks" is great (ik thats not what youre saying, im giving an example)

i cant rlly expand on what i said earlier as thats all my thoughts, the idea is cool but i wouldnt know how to implement it into smthn like suno so i can't stray into that discussion

[pseudo lake]

You've expanded a lot and contributed to good conversation; super expressive, and a pleasure to chat with 🙂

[small junco]

i try my best 😅

[past thistle]

I just wanted to suggest this idea, that after the music is generated you can change lyrics in it, for example you made japanese version of the song and you want an english one too, just click edit lyrics and click regenerate. And it would be good, for example a mistake, now you can fix it with this function.

[small junco]

i think this should be mostly possible when inpainting comes out in the future!

[shrewd ibex]

I actually came here to suggest this exact thing and read your message at the very bottom here, lol

I highly suggest they implement this because I have a song where I changed the lyrics of the chorus and hit "extend" in the middle of the chorus. It still shows the entire old chorus in the lyrics and then the revised chorus after that. Would be nice to be able to clean it up after I'm done with the song

[past thistle]

Yes I agree, because for example the music was better before than the results with the new generated song

[north dune]

I think a cool feature would be if it kept tally of the most common music style tags used by that user. I know it shows some already but I hardly use those suggested ones. If I look through my previous generations, I can see there are tags that I add almost everytime.

[blissful wolf]

regarding #🚀┃updates message Can we default to NO TAGS in VIDEO LYRICS ? And now we can edit VIDEO LYRICS can we remove TAGS ? And if so will the lyrics still scroll in sync?

[sage mirage]

You can edit the lyrics, remove the tags, and regenerate your video and you'll get what you are asking for

There is a minor cache issue with embeds showing the new, regenerated video

What I mean to say, it seems like you can do exactly what you want to do, right now

As of a couple hours ago

[blissful wolf]

We cannot change the lyrics without getting a completely new song. All I want is the original song but the TAGS removed in the video. And the TAG-FREE lyrics IN THE VIDEO scroll in sync . Is that what the UPDATE is saying ?

[sage mirage]

Yes, exactly that

You take a song you already have

and then

Remove tags, blocks of lyrics that aren't actually sung

and then regenerate the video

You will get your old song, with your new written lyrics, in time, with your background picture you chose

Exactly as you are wanting to do

There is a cache issue with the website though that means the new video might not show up when you share a Suno link in discord

But that isn't how it is supposed to be

[dreamy sigil]

if you dont see them buttons you need to be pro or premuim

[blissful wolf]

So it needs to be emphasized that if you change one word of regular lyrics you will get a completely new song . Right ?

[sage mirage]

Right yeah you have to be a paying subscriber, forgot about that

[sage mirage]

NO

This is a brand new thing, released today

You could not do what I described before today

If you want new music

Then yes, it's just like before. What I am talking about is keeping the entire song you already have made.

and changing the video aspect of it to match the music itself

The song remains identical, just the video changes

[blissful wolf]

Else how the heck can the changed lyrics scroll in sync with the unchanged song ?

[sage mirage]

Like I said, this is brand new. You can do this, right now, as I have shown here: #💡┃suggestions-web message

[thin ermine]

An example in video form:

[pseudo lake]

I'm sure this won't at ALL be abused to make it seem like every quirk and twist of some crazy EDM songs is the result of an explicitly coded prompt 😛

But that is a sacrifice we need to make for brevity and cleanliness. 🙌

[thin ermine]

That is soooooo going to happen 😄

[frigid pebble]

1. Is it possible to store vocal's (voice) parameters, to use exactly the same voice (pitch, manners/effects etc) in further songs?

The interface could look like this: after the song is generated, the engine adds to, say, lyrics part something like

[Voice Voice239525 male, aged, hoarse, French accent]

and then in further songs I add

[Voice Voice239525]

to use the same "virtual singer".

2. Is is possible to control which lyrics parts AI may repeat, and which it may not?

It's really discouraging when in many-verse song I hear the sequence like

verse 1
verse 2
verse 2
verse 1 (partially)
verse 3

and so on.

Thanks.

[pseudo lake]

No, people use similar prompts to try to encourage that behaviour from Suno, but Suno doesn't respond to explicit demands in that sort of way.

That being said, this is one of the more popular known-suggestions, if you wanted to be upvote #100 and help push us into the triple digits for visibility?

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252789683176345641

[open ermine]

holiwi

[pseudo lake]

This will be the first known-suggestion to reach 100 base-interactions, sort of a minor big deal 🥹

[small junco]

that is my absolutest #1 biggest wish for suno, i think it'd be so fun trying to figure out voices and finding one you like and reusing that as your 'artist'

[pseudo lake]

They haven’t liked it yet, swipe in and be the 100th like!

[small junco]

i already have! i dont think unliking and reliking counts or i would haha😩

[pseudo lake]

YES! History was made

Okay, someone just did, I thought it was you 😛

[small junco]

in fairness, i forgot that i had, i clicked the link thinking "thats a damn good idea" and then realised it was already highlighted with my reaction 🙈

[hexed spade]

I see you are using tailwind + chakra + emotion for styling the web UI. Chakra and emotion is not what I would go for a fresh app(runtime overhead). I recommend you remove them over time and migrate to tailwind completely(since you are using it anyway)/any other static styling solution. I see you are using Chakra for some of their prebuilt components. You can swap these out with custom-made components using tailwind, and if needed, a headless(only logic, no styles) UI library.

[restive forge]

I request a reset or clear button in the Create mode. Having to manual clear out everything when trying to start a new song is tiring.

[jagged kayak]

SUGGESTION: It would be good while your creating a song if you could filter on the name of the song you're working on so you don't see a bunch of stuff in the list.

[buoyant stratus]

Please bring back the square album art 😄

[half escarp]

this is probably a bad idea but idk i would like a tweaking randomizer markov chain hooked

uh based on user input probably unrealistic

so a randomizer hooked to a markov chain in other words

[pseudo lake]

Oh my lord yes, any type of filtering in the search results or libraries are desperately needed 🍻

[lofty talon]

Would be nice to filter songs in the explore tab to just have instrumentals or just a specific language

Also the ai seems to not know what phonk is, and it doesn't do bass that well (you can tell it to have lots of bass and most of the time there is 0 bass)

[dusky quiver]

Anyone else think that the instrument sounds have gone backwards, it feels like v2 in some parts to me when I generate songs. I tried to get a proper funk result, but instead all my credits went into rock songs where every guitar sounds like a mixture of guitar and piano with the plucking and strumming sounds in between. There was a time when it was harder to tell if instrumental songs were from Suno or a actual music recording, but I cant find that anymore and I kinda want it back 😄

[paper pond]

it would be nice if Suno didn't count plays on your own songs. I can't tell how many times people actually listened to my stuff because I'm a listen on repeat kind of person and I really like the stuff I've made. I listen to it while I'm thinking what to do next. plus I listen to it constantly while making the song art to get more into it. so it has like 20 to 40 plays before even making it public Lol.

I understand I could download mp3 and listen that way but... well it's a little late for that now.

[tiny grove]

Suggestion : being able customize even more the generation. I mean by this to be able to like plan the generation with their own lyrics / instructions / styles, and then let suno generate each part of the music. Each part would cost 5 credits as if it was a classic generation for each one, but it will allow to be more precise on what we want, and would enable some more drastic changes to styles on specific parts (like as in rythmic songs where bpm can shift from 80 to 250 in a second, which for now with suno seems not possible in one go, you HAVE to do extends one at a time, while you already know that you want something slow here, and something fast there, or another example would be as in the 1st ending of "I'm a spider, so what?" where style and rythms changes like crazy)

[modern summit]

i think it could be nice to have more meta tag possibility in the text box, or at least more clarified example of what we can use and how to use it. i have to regenerate countless times just becasue i need to tweek some parts, such as when a need a final chorus to blow up or ad libs to be centered, that kind of thing

[pseudo lake]

...yeah. I feel this one in my soul.

All my Apple Music milestones at the moment are stuff like "100 Plays in Canada", and I quickly divert my gaze with a forced yawn and pretend like 75 of them weren't me.

One of the more highly rated known-suggestions, but every upvote helps for visibility! https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1252773477157699664

[hollow barn]

Edit for Song Textx should be under the "..." instead of deep down at the end of the lyrics on the song page and it would be great if the editing window wouldn't close everytime I stop the song to edit the lyrics

[hybrid spoke]

Would be cool to be able to place songs in folders. I make several versions of a song, and by now I have thousands - and it's very hard to find older ones without scrolling for ages. (I know about playlists, but I would have liked to see better sorting options in the UI)

Also, would love to see a feature where you get stems of the track - there are several AI services doing this already, but Suno could probably get better results from its generated content. I often want just the acappella, for example.

[pseudo lake]

I'm surprised the known-suggestion for this only has ~74 upvotes, the higher it's rated, the more the devs know people want it https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253172964728377455

[pseudo lake]

💡

Include a "Credits History" popup modal on the Subscription page to show how credits have generated, reset, and been spent (perhaps credit expenditure could default to a condensed dropdown list as not to overwhelm the UI)

This would alleviate a lot of confusion for new and free users, as well as helping paid users better understand how many credits they failed to use before a reset so they can better inform themselves as to whether or not their current subscription is suited for their needs.

[hybrid spoke]

Upvoted!

[twilit hedge]

With the editing lyric feature... if all the meta tags are removed... we probably can't remember what was used before 🙂 maybe the original should also remain for reference? (a lot of time, I'd go browsing on songs from pros to learn what they did too)

[thin ermine]

That's not a bad idea, though I think the public visibility of the original lyrics should be a per-song setting for the user who generated the song in case they don't want to give away all of their prompting "secrets".

I think there should at least be an "Edited Lyrics" indicator of some form - maybe text that shows up below the lyrics that states something to the effect of "Lyrics/Tags last edited on 13-Jul-2024". This could help to discourage people who may adjust the tags after the fact, adding things like chord progressions, specific note patterns, etc... and then trying to pass it off as if they've mastered Suno to the point that they can control every second.

"Show us the original!"

[pseudo lake]

YES! disclaimer is the best way to handle transparency

I'm so glad you brought that idea to the table -- I was ribbing the idea of people abusing the edited lyrics to further sew confusion amongst new users who don't quite understand the process of learning Suno and want to simply "copy" instead of trying to learn, but I'm glad you picked up on the fact that I was trying to encourage outside-the-box thinking ❤️

[sage mirage]

The harber and I have debated this before, but I am vehemently against hiding style prompts

Suggest away but there is a strong counter against that idea from lots of people that have been here since the start

As it's how we figured out how to 'Suno'

Lyrics sure fine I guess but someone can just listen

Extends should absolutely be an opt-in thing though

Your music is your music, full stop. I just do not think 'prompts' should be protected since you can not summon the same song with it.

I argue to the moon with 2D generative art people all the same

[pseudo lake]

While I think we'd still end up accidentally raising our voices if we chatted over it in a bar, I'll completely concede that obsurcing style prompts and the lyric section is entirely different.

[sage mirage]

It would be a friendly debate but I know me

and it would take a lot to change my mind on this. Never say never

[pseudo lake]

lol, same here -- but I respect you enough that I'd buy the first couple rounds

[sage mirage]

Selfishly though I am confident that I wouldn't need someone's prompt to get something really close to whatever song

You can hide your prompt from me, but you can't hide your prompt from me

I have ears

What's the thing about how you can't DRM analog

'analog hole'

[pseudo lake]

I'd rather someone try to learn from copying my style prompts than metatags, because using metatags is such a subjective experience (so is style prompting, I guess, don't really press me to explain why one feels different 😅)

Ideally, I'd rather them engage in friendly conversation and ask how I went about creating a sound, so I could give them all of the "asterisks" from song production that aren't conveyed through "my finished, resulting conversation with Suno"

[sage mirage]

I'd concede that meta tags would be a part of song writing ala lyrics

And now you can edit those right out

I am hard-locked on style prompts

Anything that goes in the lyrics box, in regards to Suno, can be yours and your secret

The style prompt box though, that's sacred. Like public libraries or mass transit, to me.

[thin ermine]

That's pretty much how I feel. While you CAN introduce new instruments and influence the styles using Tags in the lyrics box, It can be a pretty brutal fight since whatever's in the style box carries so much weight

I don't mind sharing my whacky styles. How else are people going to learn about Handpan Hillbilly Death-Metal Big Band?

[sage mirage]

If only for ideas

I do it, I know others do it

We used to have to trawl Showcase to see it since the main site didn't have trending at all

[paper pond]

I want my displayed lyrics to be clean and easy to follow but I still want there to be access to original prompt. Not only so others can learn but also so people can see just how much work I put into making something sound just right.

When I first suggested being able to clean up displayed lyrics I also mentioned there should be a separate tab to see what was fed into the AI.

A bit of the stuff I know now I learned from looking into the works of others.

[pseudo lake]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-predator-arnold-hi-hello-gif-9920452

[sage mirage]

I'd like this as well, as someone pointed out that when you 'reuse prompt' you now pull the altered prompt

Meaning it's going to be butt and ass for making a song

points at woodhouse

[thin ermine]

ducks

[outer flare]

The ability to clip the end of a song, sometimes it'll end at 2 or 3 minutes but then fade out.. then start a whole new song for the whole 4 minute space.

[pseudo lake]

How else will they learn not to include Dave?

[thin ermine]

🚫 🥁

Dave's a Drummer, btw. lol

Kevin plays bass. 😄

...and sometimes sings with crabs

[twilit hedge]

I feel Extends should not be allowed on non-public shared songs and even with public shared, it should only be permitted by the original creator if it's not your own song... just because, when you spent hours and countless tokens to find the beat, the intro, the theme you love for your song; one could extend and make it no longer unique (not that I've seen any yet but it's still possible)

[sage mirage]

Just a seperate option. "Do you want to allow extends yes/no"

With 'no' being default

People will collab

and share and be free and open

[thin ermine]

Extensions can also be useful for helping other users with problems. I would like to see that as a toggleable option, tho! As well as for "Get Whole Song", which anyone can currently do on any shared parts.

you don't need to hear me yodeling and screaming in my uploads 😄

[frigid pebble]

Upvoted that.

[tulip steppe]

Being able to limit the instruments would be nice
like picking the instruments
for example
Bass + violin
and it would only use these instruments

[pseudo lake]

Perhaps a 3-part slider between Private > Public > Collaborative, where Public allows the song to be searched for within the social-media side of Suno, but only Collaborative songs can be extended (or have the prompts reused)?

Either that or a separate toggle for Locked > Collaborative alongside the existing Private > Public, where Locked prevents reusing or extending, so that "protection" could also apply to privately shared songs.

[inland scarab]

It would be cool if there was an option to disable image generation when uploading or creating songs. I'm blind and can't see these anyway, so it would save me a few seconds that I have to wait until the image generates, and also it would use a bit less of server resources, so it's a win win situation

[jolly owl]

it would be really nice, when creating a song with lyrics, to have the possibility to get it separately as an instrumental. that would be awesome 🙂

[pure cliff]

How does "upload audio" work?

[sage mirage]

Upload a clip betweeen 6-60 seconds, that becomes the audio you extend from

[surreal mantle]

Are we gonna be able to edit the song tags in the future? Currently have an issue where a song I made uses like 14 seconds of audio with some style tags, and the rest of the song does not reflect the tags that the first clip used.

[limber vine]

When you click on your avatar, the menu popup should feature a solid background instead of being transparent. This change will prevent the text from blending together, making navigation easier and more intuitive.

[pseudo lake]

It's solid for me -- can you share some of your PC details?

[limber vine]

Click create then you will see what i mean. Don't need PC Details. This is via edge browser

[pseudo lake]

Also on Edge, and still not seeing what you're talking about.

[limber vine]

Oh well lol.

[pseudo lake]

Maybe try restarting your browser? I've seen no one else reporting this.

[limber vine]

It's hard to try and even describing, But for some reason its like this for me. It's not an issue for me and that it's tolerable, I'll restart another time.

[gray vapor]

Probably already suggested but PRIVATE comments on people's songs, so the musician gets feedback but like negative comments won't pollute opinions of future listeners

[pseudo lake]

I think the biggest thing holding back outright commenting (even private comments) would be the moderation, as it would be another avenue for people to harass, spam, etc.

That being said, I'd love to see some sort of feedback given on a page, even if it were a select group of interactions like the imessage reactions

[twilit hedge]

I see the same on my browser: Windows 11 Chrome

[pseudo lake]

Does the issue persist in a private window?

[twilit hedge]

Yes.

[strange vapor]

• About commenting songs, what about the ability to comment our own generations ?
When I generate 10 songs, I'd like to add a description on ones I keep.
Even a short string limited to say 100 chars, would be of great use.

• Also, probably asked a bunch of times already, but I want a box to force Suno to respect my lyrics. There's a reason I use custom !

[small junco]

oh i would definitely be all for the ability to add comments onto your own songs, just notes for yourself to yourself ☝️
like next to each track, have the ability to add in a short note where you can add your thoughts about it, how you want to use it etc. rather than having a seperate notes doc or app
i know i'd find a lot of use in that

[wary topaz]

Hello, I have a suggestion on the search page, when I search for something it gets slow and the browser freezes, my suggestion is: instead of searching while typing, why don't I type first and then press a button or the Enter key? ? more convenient to search.

[novel compass]

I see you have posted the summer of suno winning songs playlist. that is amazing! Thank you!

Now, for a playlist that large we really could use a randomize playback button. I don't think anyone would mind if you even replaced the repeat/loop toggle on the player with a shuffle one.

[gray vapor]

@pseudo lake yeah people are the worst part of AI music. Maybe there needs a service to replace them in the audience too . 🤖

[wintry gazelle]

There's no way to know if your song was on trending in the past right, so I think we should fix that

[pseudo lake]

I've been pushing for more complex organizational workspaces since my day one of using Suno, really hopeful to see something like this implemented so we don't need to use the title for organization. On that note, I hope our comments are subject to search as well, as I'd hate having to search song-by-song, examining the comments section to find the one I commented specific thoughts on.

[pseudo lake]

people are the worst
Say no more, I agree completely. That's why I choose to spend my time with cats.

[gray vapor]

@wintry gazelle yeah because song of the year/decade and 'ranked x in the charts for x weeks" is going to be an inevitable situation

[gray vapor]

Whats the standard etiquette for remixing peoples things? Over on Scratch.mit there is a permissions system that people enable remixing their code. I wonder if some buttons like "remix this" and/or "request to remix" would be handy.

[pseudo lake]

As far as Suno is concerned, anything you generate on a paid account is "yours" -- if you extend from someone else's song or reuse their prompts, it's up to you to give attribution to the original artist.

That being said, this "ownership" doesn't override existing considerations if you were to share in a public forum (if you extend from someone's song, resulting in 4m of their song followed by 1m of your added music, you might still run into issues if you posted it on youtube)

That being said, a toggle to handle "share for listening" or "share of collaboration" would be really useful

[gray vapor]

yeah, probably will be more valuable when separate tracks can be generated because sometimes the music is 100% hot and the lyrics are 30% cold

[stray sparrow]

Suggestion. when you upload an audio, you should be able to get the whole song WITHOUT the first part, I mean without the uploaded audio. Why I'm asking for that feature? Because sometimes I use the Upload function to make the song use some kind of sounds, so I upload raw sounds to make suno learn what kind of sounds I want to hear, so when the song is done, I don't want the raw sounds at the beginning because they are not part of the song.

There is a workaround, when you get a good part2, you can download It, then upload the first minute and work form there, the problem is If suno detects voices in the uploaded part you can't make the song public although the voices are generated by suno to begin with.

[thin ermine]

100%! The upload feature works really well like that when you leave some silence at the end, often seeming to draw inspiration from the upload rather than simply extending it.

I also think "Get Whole Song" should be available only to user who created the track (or at least something that said user has control over). Right now, if you're lucky enough to get something cool that fits within a 2 minute extension and share it, everyone else can merge the parts into their own library and have access to your original upload, which you may not want to share.

[solar drum]

Organize Song Creation with Project Folders
As a:
Music creator using Suno

I want to:
Efficiently manage my project files by moving files to and out of folders

So that:
I can keep my creation screen tidy, organized, and easily searchable

[pseudo lake]

In the interim until more expanded workspaces get provided, I would pay money for the ability to name the playlist I create from this popup modal, instead of having to figure out which "untitled playlist" it got thrown into, seeing as how the image for the newly created playlist will be overwritten with whatever album art goes into it.

When I'm adding 16 tracks to a playlist at once, all of which have AI generated interpretive art, it becomes a friction point trying to re-locate the songs that I just spent time trying to organize. (minor sticking point, because after I've found the playlist I want, I can choose the playlist cover art and name it as I please, but for ease of throughput, please consider it 🙏 )

A video for demonstration of sticking points

Also, when editing the song names, it would be really helpful if we could just save the modal and close it by pressing enter in the song box -- minor sticking point, but it gets tedious having to swap between keyboard and mouse to rename large amounts of songs

[small junco]

im not quite sure how / why but any time i have uploaded audio and use Extend, it always properly "begins" a song. possibly bcos in the lyrics box i specify [Intro] and THEN [Verse 1] ? but i cant say ive ever had it properly 'Extend' audio so maybe try that if you havent already!

i would still think a more customised approach that was more clear on the website would be suited for uploaded audio, like being able to specify if you want to Extend or "Use as inspiration" on your uploaded audio before you even go to generate it but you can still kind of force the results you want now anyway so its not high priority or anything

[thin ermine]

Have you tried cutting off a recording abruptly, as in mid-note, before uploading? Tho the intro tag may indeed be to blame. I chopped the first 1/3rd off a suno song and uploaded that with the abrupt ending and Suno seamlessly picked it back up. I did leave out the song sections/lyrics that were already in the upload

[small junco]

I haven't actually but that sounds like an interesting way of getting results that I might have to try experimenting with!

[olive sage]

We really need a discord bot to play suno music while playing with the boys

it's kinda annoying i need to post the songs on youtube to play them in a bot and sometimes the bot don't allow those youtube videos

[small junco]

Which bot are you using? @olive sage
I use aiode#9384 in a lot of servers I'm in - it supports local files, so you can upload your Suno tracks to your DMs or a specific channel for them, right-click Copy Link on the uploaded file and the bot will play it from there (discord's CDN) which bypasses the youtube upload

[olive sage]

we use Jockie bot

[thin ermine]

If you haven't already, also try adjusting the extension's start point to an earlier time in the upload... maybe cutting off a note or phrase

[small junco]

according to their website, they also support direct http urls for mp3 + wav!

[small junco]

ohhh good point, i'll give that a try, im very curious to see what results it spits out

[olive sage]

Nice one, i will try it. THX

[small junco]

i tend to like using the upload audio section for loops like 15-30 seconds of single or couple-instruments for it to sprinkle in the track or use as a baseline which it seems to do quite intelligently; i might have to try more full-on audios too at some point

[small junco]

no probs! hopefully it works out for you - when i found out i could use direct links with my own bot it was a game changer! 🙌

[modern summit]

sometimes extentions don't match the style and they seem to extend only from one generation and not the others. for example, i have to stitch together 2 parts just to get the chorus right for my third part, otherwise it does not seem to work cause the part only takes the previous one as an example, not the entire chain. it's pretty frustrating since sometimes i jsut need to regenerate some part and i just realized earlier that too many stitching and extensing from these "fuul songs" might just deteriorare the audio. i don't really know how to explain that, i'm sorry

[twilit hedge]

I used to keep extending from previous parts... and ran into this quite often... now before continue extending, I'll always Get Whole Song first, then extend from it

I haven't experienced the issue you have

[modern summit]

yeah but as i said i got the impression that too many of this cause the audio quality to deteriorate. i'm not sure if it's just me but i've put my issue in #🪲┃bugs-web

[twilit hedge]

I guess I haven't done that as many as you have... I probably just extended once or twice from the first Get Whole Song

[modern summit]

i think i did it 3 times on the song i displaied: one to stitch the original with the second part, then i second time to stitch the end pre-chorus and chorus since i didn't like how they were, and i think i would probably have done like at least twice more. i might just be a perfectionist, but still...

[lethal trail]

Would it be plausible to ask for the ability to quickly delete all thumbed down tracks from your library? Whenever a track doesn't follow the tags, I usually forget to delete first, then give it the thumbs down, causing the library to quickly fill up with tracks that have the 👎 lit up

[unreal needle]

Dont know if this has been suggested before but I would like to have more control of extensions. As it is now it do not seem to matter much what I put in style of music when I extend. Maybe you can even add a extra window for extends where you can add or subtract instruments, raise/lower tempo and even change the music type completely. For instance if you do a opera song but want it to ramp up to a rock song at your extend point..

[sonic kindle]

HI I have found that suno prefers using a Female voice regardless if you specify Male and how u specify it. I think the Ai is a temperamental Female lol Also not to complain but the sound on Udio plays better through a Hifi / Car sound and sounds richer and more professional. While your interface and process is better for if Suno is better if you are writing your own lyrics! Can you look in to this if its sorted Suno Will be first class. Also please give the option to use a voice that you like from other songs or the music generated. Please and Thank You!

[weary spindle]

this was probably already suggested but I was wondering it is not in the "known suggestions" channel because I thought/hoped team is working on it: Inpainting... I got so great songs but unfortunately the bot was singing a verse two times so I would like to fix that. Currently no chance :/

[vale stratus]

I want to crop my audio so badly!

[warm rapids]

is there a way to change the lyrics of the song you created? because if you do, you should change the dub as well.
you should have a seed function. using the same song seed but the Dub lyrics should change.

[pseudo lake]

This seems to be behaving as intended, as "Extend" uses the selected clip as context to continue from -- extending from "Get Whole Song" vs extending from an extension are methods of providing different amounts of context to Suno.

Through this, you can either ensure that extensions sound like the earlier portions of the song, or can swap the style entirely like this https://suno.com/song/4ead25f8-1176-45e1-b498-a44c1374bf61

That being said -- it would be very nice to have the option to "extend from whole song" as well, so we could continue longer "extend chains" without needing to stop and "Get Whole Song" so often.

[crude verge]

Feature Request: I would like to see "gifting" feature, where I can gift credits to other users.

[limpid moat]

Do you mean like having 1 full song then making a 2nd full song that matches the style, or you just want to extend from a completed song you have already made, because that can still be done you just extend from the last track used before you compiled it into -Get Whole Song-, and you can make attempts at changing the style/tempo after hitting extend and timestamp desired just type in new styles in the -Style of Music- Section, even try Down-Tempo or Up-Tempo in the styles try allsorts.

[gloomy surge]

When refreshing the page or whatever, please make it so it defaults back to the newest version
I've had too many times where I'll take a week break and make a generation just for it to be v3

[buoyant karma]

Feature Request: I would love to have the option to get the generated song along side the instrumental. This would allow me to record my own vocals using the pattern of the generated song on the instrumental.

[silver owl]

A mass delete from Create would be amazing

[gloomy surge]

Would be cool to have
But go to a vocal remover site for now

[shut shadow]

/chirp

[rare obsidian]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[modest shoal]

It would be great to have an option such as “fade in” and “fade out”. Because sometimes the song may start or end in a way we don’t like, by this way, we can fade in or fade out the song.

[stone cobalt]

untitled playlists - unbelievable how stupid this organization of file is. It would make sense to pud date time stamp in the folder name, so you can know that this day you generate the song.

[small junco]

ohh yeah thats a rlly good point, ive gotten stumped by the untitled playlists quite a few times now

i think it would also make a lot of sense if that list was ordered in either alphabetic or most recently modified bcos right now its weirdly random and hard to find things when you have a lot of playlists

[modest shoal]

That would be awesome. With the potential features like this, we need an arrangement in a DAW less.

[vale stratus]

I hate it when sometimes I make the perfect song and then it cuts at the end! 😅

[mystic stirrup]

is it possible to get whole song without the uploaded audio at the beginning directly in suno without post editing ?

and also an option for drumless version

and an AI based mastering feature.

[modest shoal]

Exactly! That’s why I’ve also just suggested above that we should have an option to fade in and fade out a song to get rid of that problem 😀 When we have both cutting and fading option, it’ll be amazing to first cut and then fade out the song.

[gray vapor]

Submenu item on the music playe pop up ...that thing at the bottom of the screen > Add to Playlist for those tracks that come along in the feed that you didn't click on but just flow after the last song you were listening to. and/or automatic daily History playlist otherwise you may never be able to find these songs again.

[thin pivot]

i would love an option to remove the vocals from a generated song to make a clean instrumental version

[modest shoal]

I agree with you. Sometimes it generates a marvelous instrumental but an awful vocal.

[thin pivot]

ye and there are other ai models that can strip the vocals from a song but using those almost always leave bits in the song that sound fuzzy or just weird, either way it makes it obvious that an ai tampered with it

[warm rapids]

what if you have 2 options after the music finish,
download instrumental
download song

[shut shadow]

/chip

[rare obsidian]

The /chirp command no longer works

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[gray vapor]

The Thumbs Up button adds songs to Liked Playlist for a very long history of every song you ever liked

[modest shoal]

Exactly!

[sage mirage]

Sunos doesn't use stems, which is sort of what you guys are asking for.

It can't separate the vocals and music easily because they aren't separate, ever

[modest shoal]

You’re right, I’ve used them before. There are problems in them removing the vocals as you’ve mentioned. However, as Suno generates the song and the instrumental by itself, it would be easier and unproblematic for Suno to remove a vocal from a song.

[sage mirage]

It's the one master, that's all Suno works in

And if they were to offer this it has to be done as you have already discussed, broken apart afterwards

[sage mirage]

It doesn't do this through, Suno generates the entire master at once

There is no instrumental sans vocals. If there were, we'd have had this option long ago

[modest shoal]

I didn’t know that, that’s interesting

[sage mirage]

Yeah. Lots of music people who use Suno for the first time get taken aback by this

It doesn't use stems

ie. Sperated instruments and vocals, drums

That sort of thing

Like what people use in daws

However, it still a valid suggestion

It is something people want

So, keep suggesting

They do read these channels

[modest shoal]

Has Suno ever said anything about stems? Or how do you know it my friend?

[sage mirage]

They have. And it's this, what I just said. Suno does not use stems, if Suno were to offer them it would have to be done exactly as people do it now, with an external program that breaks it apart afterwards

They don't offer it inside of Suno directly because the quality isn't up to the standard that Suno wants it to be

[modest shoal]

I got it. Thank you for clarifying my friend 👍

[sage mirage]

Not a problem. It's a good suggestion, and one the devs need to see if the users want it. Thank you for requesting it

[shut nacelle]

chirp

[pseudo lake]

Before AI, the only way to have access to the song stems was having the original master recordings of each instrument recorded separately -- you'd then "remaster" them by adjusting volume levels when putting everything together.

Suno doesn't make songs by separate instruments, and just creates the entire song at once (presumably diffusing it out of a clip of static, similar to how image gen takes a picture of static and "refines it" until you see a recognizable image).

Only in the past couple of years has it become possible to easily separate instrumental tracks using a finished piece of work, and the technology keeps getting better at doing so!

In regards to Suno, it's not impossible that we'll see this feature in a future model, but Suno isn't currently built to interpret songs like this, and the devs are focused on working on the next models (which might include such features!)

[fathom dirge]

Since my better written long version wasn't accepted by the Channel, once again in short:
Please add other payment methods than Credit Card.
I wanna give you my Money.

[pseudo lake]

I think the issue is putting the "#" symbol with a space afterward

[fathom dirge]

Oh, my bad. Thanks for letting me know, tho 👍

[pseudo lake]

Not a problem, Woodhouse has stolen my messages for snacks too many times -- trying to put him on a diet 😛

[timid wasp]

It is hard to navigate the full summerofsuno playlist - Perhaps breaking it up in the further segments would help with discoverability

[warm rapids]

how about redoing the song you created, using the same song seed with a different lyrics.

[fossil trail]

Suggestion. I feel like to an extent, image editing should be for free users, but only to upload images rather than generate them, as the ai isn't necessarily being used when the writer just uploads the image.

Potentially even also make image Gen worth credits? But that may be a stretch

[pseudo lake]

For clarity, I understand that you'd like for free users to be able to generate pictures as well, but the second part implies that you'd like the ability to spend some of your song credits to generate images as well, correct?

[marsh lichen]

It would be very good to have the AI strictly following the lyrics - at least as an option. I didn't like how it made the last chorus and I extended several times from before the chorus began, but it kept adding lines or words from before. 30 credits just wasted.

[halcyon vale]

suno on android!!!

[glossy ginkgo]

Suggestion: A way to block a user. Since the change from "after playing a song, play more by the same artist" to "play similar" I keep getting songs I hate and I want to never hear from those artists again.

It's hellish to listen to the songs people post on Discord now because once they end you get random stuff you didn't ask for.

For example, today I listened to a song by Kakermix, I could listen to his music all day, it's great. But after the song finished, I got what was essentially (to me) spam in the form of a low quality song in a genre I actively avoid.

[void vortex]

Suggestion: A way to specify how long of a song you want. Could make the lengths only divisible by 4 so that determining credit cost is easy and consistent (ie 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, etc minute long)

[marsh lichen]

Good idea. But I would add 2 minutes, too, costing fewer credits. Right now, it's the same amount of credits whether it's a 2-minute or 4-minute song.

[unborn condor]

If suno officials read my article, I hope they learn a variety of Korean singers' voices. So I hope that a variety of unique voices will be expressed. Additionally, I would like to see a choice of male and female voices.

[modest shoal]

Thank you for clarification about the way Suno makes the songs. As you said, the tools and their quality keep getting better. Back then it was impossible to separate instruments at that quality. Suno may integrate that feature into itself as well.

[stray birch]

It would be cool if boosters had embed perms in general!

[stray birch]

To add to this in general, there aren't any perks for boosters that I know of, booster perks would be a great idea

[pseudo lake]

More of #1252257127326548028 , but this is a really good idea — I don’t know if someone should be able to “buy” embed permissions in this way, but I want to let you know this idea is going to be discussed and examined ❤️

[stray birch]

Thank you for that!
If the idea were to go any further it would be a good idea to implement some rules about self-promotion to hopefully combat people taking advantage of their perks!

[fresh lodge]

Please put the LIKE thumb icon back to yellow..... Its horrible as is, doesn't look much different in contrast to the thumbs down.

[ember fox]

//chirp

/chirp

[rare obsidian]

The /chirp command is no longer working

Chirp is retired, and no longer on discord. You can make music now on our website: https://suno.com

[pseudo lake]

… now I’m legitimately worried that you can hear inside my head or something.

[limpid moat]

Gonna make this suggestion again :P, The option to Splice a track to delete parts out of it surely this is not a tough option to implement. Like Delete 00:30-00:57, ATM i just want it to delete the last part of some tracks that drag on for too long, or that finish entirely before the end of the track but then start up in another tempo to repeat two random verses.

[prime rock]

I just did a bunch of work on continues to get a song’s flow perfect, and then when I put the parts together the Suno mastering flattens the sound significantly. The original single generation is so much better quality than the same generation combined with Get Whole Song. It’s not acceptable and the song isn’t usable all because of Suno’s in-house mastering applied during Get Whole Song.

[pseudo lake]

I'd love to be able to more into this, as I too have noticed minor-to-moderate changes in audio quality, but without specific examples to compare it's largely subjective.

Whether you're more comfortable posting them here or DMing them, can you please send the related tracks for consideration? (the original generation, the extensions, and the "get full song" if possible)

[thin canyon]

Sadly, nobody really KNOWS how generative AI makes its decisions, there isn't really a "debug" method. For now - It's all still in infancy, and is prone to hallucinations.

[limpid moat]

Try GetWholeSong again, it may master it differently

[bright topaz]

I Have a suggestion about the Extended feature can u add a reverse extended where we can extend before 0:00 like adding something like intro or verse or chorus because sometimes AI skips the intro or chorus for some cases I like the later part than before but I am stuck and when we create another song it's different than previous One Please add something on an extended feature where we can even add or change the previous part of the song

[marsh lichen]

I totally agree. I have a lot of tracks that end but then start again.

[marsh lichen]

Good idea. Sometimes it starts really abruptly.

[bright topaz]

I hope They do something about it

[marsh lichen]

Yeah, it's like an unruly kid.

[thin ermine]

Go to your room Suno! ... No, not the kitchen; YOUR room - the one you sleep in! ... Get back up and go to you... ARE YOU SLEEPING!?

[hexed gale]

Would be nice to have an option to create intro when extending. Usually the AI adds continuation rather than before the actual start. EDIT: Just noticed Raven31 posted the very same request 😄

[timid wasp]

badges in Discord for SummerofSuno winners would be cool

genre badges could be cool too

[thin pivot]

what if you could upload a "reference song" that will make the ai use kind of the same style or instruments as in the sound file you uploaded at the cost of the generations costing extra credits

that would be neat

obviously not to a degree where it's just straight up plagiarizing but yea

[small junco]

Suno has an upload audio feature; you upload some sound to give suno to start with, write in your prompts and lyrics as normal, and it will generate a song and incorporate your uploaded audio stylistically and use it where necessary. If you want to make a song that sounds similar to another one that's commercially available, you'll just need to analyse it whilst listening and pick out all the things that you can manually prompt suno with for that specific sound :). allowing ppl to explicitly 'reference' the style of a song could open up a ton of issues, esp as it's a very grey area rn on the guidelines for that.

[loud kite]

I think it would be easier to just offer an audio edit feature In the short term, a controlnet for music should be possible there's a lot of research papers on edits for diffusion based models.

Then in the future some sort of music 2 stem export if people want to refine it even further manually in daws.

[prime rock]

Could you guys please set Woodhouse to allow two photos, links, or songs at once, instead of just one? It wouldn’t greatly increase the volume of spam and would allow people to ask others in chat which version they prefer. I saw some poor sucker get Woodhouse’d like fifteen times in a row trying to ask everyone which version they should continue from, it was sorrowful, like watching a kitten stuck in a wave pool.

[hybrid crane]

You should be able to post 2 links at once in one post. Problem is when you post them too often. And then we are talking about "10 seconds". I lowered that already, it was 20 seconds. And atm we do not allow images in #💬┃general-chat , and it's been off in #🐣┃suno-showcase for while because it's a showcase for music.

[thin ermine]

like watching a kitten stuck in a wave pool. ... This seems so oddly specific.

[primal pawn]

I wish there was a function to download the song separately from mr and voice. Sometimes I like the melody, but sometimes I don't like the voice, so I want to modify this part, but it's a shame that the sound quality gets very bad if I separate it.

[civic stone]

New subscriber here! It'd be super nice to see an option to download the video without a background, so that it's just lyrics with a transparent background, and maybe some customization for the lyrics.

[gray vapor]

SUGGESTION, Free 5 credits for every song that has Suno in the lyrics: https://suno.com/song/33e756e3-84d6-4481-a6a1-a040ec4e0674

[calm frigate]

suggestion: being able to regenerate a beat from a song if we dont like the voice or singer

[frosty ferry]

Suggestion: Empty Trash Bin. (With a double confirmation to prevent accidents). Delete ALL songs in the trash bin at once.

[zinc frost]

depending on how you want to use this, you can already grab your lyrics and put them into a scrolling text tool. I believe there are some decent ones out there to control fonts, colors, size, etc.

[zinc frost]

you might already know this - i just learned the other day, you can extend a song from early on (like a few seconds in) and usually capture a verrrrrry close melody, sound, and vocals - if you change your styles, all bets are off. Some of my songs start immediately woth vocals so that doesn’t work. I’ve heard some people gen instrumental first or put [instrumental] tag up top to provide some space before vocals.

Sorry if you meant something else here.

[keen halo]

we need the ability to indicate in a style the time at which the melody will change to another specified in the style
00:00 ambient, 00:30 drive rap, 01:00 slowed
but at the same time the song does not change completely during the transition, but only changes, for example, the beat or instrument
please take this as food for thought and look to the future from a development perspective

[mortal nest]

How to create music on discord

[bright topaz]

u can't now u have to go Suno.com to create music

[thin ermine]

I'd like to see the current Public toggle expanded into a Sharing menu with options like:

Public - Visible on profile. Community searchable. Visible in public playlists.
Unlisted/Link-Only - Not visible on Profile pages. Not Searchable. Visible in public profile playlists.
Private - Not shown on Profile pages. Not Searchable. Not visible in public playlists.
Subscribers Only - Treated as Public to Subscribers, Private to everyone else.

[ ] Collaborative - Toggle that enables Get Whole Song and Extend for other users (otherwise disabled for others).

[undone bough]

in edit details it shoulg be possible to edit the final lyrics so it wont be such a mess when making a video

[thin ermine]

That's not a bad place for the control. I'd also like to see it within the track's 3-dot menu. Having it way down at the bottom of the lyrics is just not a good place for it.

[undone bough]

@zinc frost thats why it should be changed to 1.-2 min Start creation and THEN 4 minutes...it would also ease on the servers if they did it that way, win win

also some kind of marking system in the creation list where u can lock the good stuff adn that way be able to delete all the crap stuff

[potent folio]

make likes public, like in Instagram

this will improve the ability of artists who are producing music on suno to discern what the platform likes ie it will trivially show if the top 10 songs are all liked by the same group of people

and help resolve the🐜

https://tenor.com/view/ants-mosh-pit-circle-gif-9913029

I get that this may not be trivial though

[sage mirage]

Then everyone will know I only like the best stuff

[slender nexus]

Dont know if possible : When a new Suno AI Version comes out , i would like it if you create a song that the AI shows all Instruments, Synths etc like in FL Studio and you can remove them ( like drums ) and add new things like a guitar solo , that would be so cool 😄

[loud kite]

This is a no brainer suggestion but video 2 audio, this would really make custom music video making easier you simply make your music video with adobe premier or green screen stuff upload it to suno which based on the video makes good background ambience and music for it.

There's a ton of papers coming out everyday on this stuff that seems to be what everyone's focusing on right now including Google.

[pseudo lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253172964728377455 I'm hoping to see this as well! There's an existing known-suggestion for it if you wanted to upvote for visibility?

[rancid marsh]

I wish there was an option to either like the music or the lyrics in Suno, so the AI knew what part to edit.

In some of my songs it sings the lyrics how it should be sung, but the music is off, and in others it's the other way around.

It would make it a lot easier to get the song you wanted, if you could "lock" one of those parts.

It would be especially epic, if you could "lock" a specific voice, if you've found one you really enjoy.

[bronze granite]

Let us download the karaoke versions of created songs! 🙂

[small junco]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1253172964728377455 (just voted on this myself bcos i thought i already had)

common request as you can see from less than an hour ago but currently suno doesnt know the difference, it just creates the voc + inst together as one solid audio file so can't be done rn afaik

[ripe shadow]

Since Suno seems to restrict explicit lyrics, why not just disallow shared links to explicit content instead, and allow creators to create whatever prose / lyrics they deem to be part of their artistic creation / expression of music.. Suno is certain to gain and retain user base compared to others like udio

[true coral]

please for the love of all the credits I am wasting, put check boxes for gender and whether you want piano included in such genres as "String Quartet Pop" or "Heavy Metal" or other genres where pianos aren't needed or wanted. But the big thing is gender. It's so frustrating to spend 500 credits and only get male vocals on the tracks that don't follow the rest of the style instructs. It's gotten to the point where when I hear a nice, beautiful song opening, I'm not going to get the male voice I wanted. Also, are the prompts weighted in anyway? I always put male vocalist (with other descriptors) first, and still I get women. Then I capitalize MALE VOCALIST. Still Billie Eillish. Then I delete some other key piece of my prompt to add another "MALE VOCALIST"... and it's still a nope. And please "helpers" don't respond to me that it is me who is doing it wrong. I'm not the only one with these complaints.

[true coral]

thank you

Also thought the model was supposed to recognize different languages but I'm get OB-JET DART for objet d'art... do I need to put HTML coding around it?

[marsh lichen]

Suno often adds some lyrics in an unrecognizable language, although it should be an instrumental. And it often repeats the last two verses (or a verse+a chorus) as if thinking that there was not enough. But whenever I try to extend before such repetition begins, specifying that now it should be instrumental, it still repeats lyrics. What an unruly child 😀

[ripe shadow]

Hopefully with inpainting this could be adjusted to one's preference