📚┃suno-school

[modest coral]

special odd happened. I feel little uneasy

I got unprompted message from this person. I have no STATUS but saying have ptsd, autistic and blind in one eye and he said he liked it..and asking if am from french and he has no posts on this server..

to show I am not lying I am on desktop see..

[wise kindle]

best option is to block them

[modest coral]

Yeah, but they could be bot, or hacker or something worst in this server..and other people could fall for it..

I already did

[modest coral]

And I don't want other members to be compromised

[modest coral]

I also like your penname haahha

@wise kindle Yeah I love poltergeists, I am even using suno as we speak to work on my dark gothic romance
story about a poltergeist and a mortal woman from my never gonna finish novel lol

[wise kindle]

sounds like a really cool premise for a story. hope you finish it!

[modest coral]

Think if Jareth (from Labyrinth) did win Sarah. I have lot of elements from Labyrinth and really obscure one...Disney's Dont look under the bed.

I am trying to captor that 80's cult musical film feel too

@wise kindle I would love to show you what I have so far

[wise kindle]

sadly I don't have a lot of time to sit down and enjoy novels these days. haven't read one since 4-ish years ago

[modest coral]

Oh no I mean my music suno

and a short little animtic

[wise kindle]

ohhh right. sure, share it in #💬┃general-chat and I'll have a listen

[quiet solar]

I feel your pain. Which is why I don't usually use the Editor for minor corrections like that if keeping the instruments and surrounding vocals unchanged is an absolute must.

My go-to would be to use Extend to get as close as possible to the same singer and melody, and have it re-perform that section in the extension (possibly multiple times). You can then extract the vocal stems from the original and the best fix from your extension(s) and switch as much or as little of the 'fix' in as is needed in Studio, or your editing software of choice.

It's not necessarily faster in the round, but I find it is better at getting a cleaner end result.

If that isn't an option you want to take, then really it's boiling down to whether you choose to compromise, or a dice roll on whether Replace or Cover is going to be the fastest route to give you something you're happy with.

[pastel pebble]

I'm seeing this now. What was your resolve?

[frigid orbit]

Just right click them and block them.

[sharp kettle]

how does one change the music summary of a song?

[frozen dagger]

meaning the music style summary/prompt?

[sharp kettle]

i was able to change one part but there is one part that just auto rights a summary to the song

and omg this promopt actuall worrked way better then my others
1954 rock and roll,
Key instruments are Hand drums, Bass Guitar, Acoustic Guitar.
add exotic dance drums rhythm
The song is 140bpm. Drums and bass maintain a strong, driving danceable high energy rhythm throughout.
Use primarily D,G,A, major chords and b minor for an upbeat, arousing and seductive dance melody.
pull from the style of a 1954s rock & roll pioneer. in the style of burning love

it finally gave me the 1954 sound i was looking for 😂i also changed the and bput way more in the brackets

i had to add [Bridge: key Instruments Handdrums, Acoustic Guitar, Bass Guitar]
And stuff like

[Instrumental Intro: 15 seconds long: 1954 rock and roll driving high energy: 140 bpm tempo : key Instruments Handdrums, Acoustic Guitar, Bass Guitar]

to get the v5 to pull which is crazy 😆

[frozen dagger]

sounds like you found some success with the sound you were aiming to craft. glad for that.

[sharp kettle]

now i just have to find that exotic dancer hip pop drum beat for the interlude

i just have to rewrite this line so it give me that hip pop drum its a very specific beat and i can play it. the only problem is i dont have a hand drum lol my old one got broken in a move and they are expensive now for the digtail plug in versions>
oh snap it worked as is haha

[past flame]

hello everyone - a couple weeks ago, my prompts worked with setting rough durations, now all durations are being ignored. did somthing change? is there a way to set duration?

[frozen dagger]

it never really follows time suggestions. they are just that, suggestions. Not a reliable way to text prompt durations, but you can try saying how long either in time, or in bars/measures, but it's not designed to create tracks with us being able to adjust the length manually in mind.

i usually suggest creating an audio that is approximate length and trying to recreate that way, but depends on situation probably.

[sharp kettle]

if you want a duration that is close you usally have to sing the song and add a vew temp scats at the start and end because sometimes it get close or ups the tempo by a few seconds so if you want a 3 min 15 second song yah gott had like one second of the beat your looking ofr at the begining and end so it doesnt cut of the time.. it would be nice if pros could set the music time for generations

[frozen dagger]

id like to be able to set a desired length if only for instrumentals when im wanting the most bang for my buck out of my credits. Looking for it to create sounds I can remix or sample. Being able to set desired duration to get max length instrumental gens rather than 2.5 minute ones would be nice too.

[sharp kettle]

it would oh so nice it would save people alot of credits ive had to scrap so many songs that i created in the full length including the blank zone where the interludes are supposed to go. my last song i had to edit in audacity but at least the work was much faster in version 5. but it takes like 50 gens without a timer set.
https://suno.com/playlist/81eedb23-cbab-4a42-9027-e5a8f77615b5

[frozen dagger]

I'm just waiting to see what's going to happen now that Suno and WB signed a deal. Saw something about limiting number of downloads for pro memberss and some other weird stuff. Just waiting to see how this all plays out now.

[sharp kettle]

im moving on to the 1964 version of a song now lol

[frozen dagger]

I did a quick revere engineer prompt for The Zombies Time of the Season to use for a song earlier, after listening to the song at work. Was good mix. I love that song. late 60's, but still.
good luck!

[vague temple]

Thanks for the detailed answer, super helpfull. Appreciate the time you took. Will definitely play around with the tips you gave.

[glad ibex]

thanks!

thanks again 🙂

[rigid wigeon]

Why, whenever i move my vocals from another DAW does it say my own lyrics are copyrighted?, This is getting really frustrating >_< 😭

[round flare]

is there a way to recover deleted tracks in suno?

[frozen dagger]

Go to library, click trash bin in top right corner on desktop

[dusty tangle]

is there any way to get non-standard vocals? Like if you do metal Suno generally makes the vocals sound like five-finger death punch or avenged seven fold, but I'd rather have them sound more like The Darkness or Japan X

[bright nimbus]

Just as a general aid for folks. Here's my go to exclude

[robotic tone] [autotune artifacts] [pitch shimmer] [digital glitch] [vocal clipping] [crushed transients] [low-end mud] [smeared sub-bass] [brickwall compression] [limiter pumping] [flat dynamics] [reverb wash] [delay washout] [chorus blur] [phase smear] [stereo imbalance] [frequency masking] [metallic resonance] [resonant buildup] [unnatural tuning shifts] [background hiss] [room noise] [constant momentum] [slow tempo] [melodic singing] [soft tone] [uplifting harmonies] [gospel choirs] [roomy ambience] [lush pads] [bright pop chords] [warm analog softness] [lo-fi filters] [vinyl hiss] [airy layers] [melodic hooks] [weak percussion] [slow envelopes] [EDM smoothness] [cheerful keys] [trap patterns] [happy tonality] [jazz chords] [swing grooves] [clean guitar layers] [soft bass] [cinematic swells] [calming textures] [soothing atmospheres] [phaser] [flanger] [long delays]

[young mantle]

Whats the trick to get a pause between lines of a chorus????! I've had COUNTLESS good songs ruined because once the chorus comes the lines just get spit out fast one after the other when I want a pause between lines.

[frozen dagger]

use line break

between verses
[Pause]
Pausee or some variation of for longer pauses.
and of course ... or an em-dash to create some breathing room (alt 0151)
EmDash—
replace [Chorus] with something like [Hook], because Chorus can cause it to be more "uppity"

[round flare]

im having trouble download just the instrumental track

does it download to my download folder or somewhere within suno?

[half dragon]

No, you should be able to download to your local machine.

[round flare]

i click download and then my mouse turns into a circle

the circle spins around for 20 seconds

then nothing happens

🙁

[frozen dagger]

wav fiile takes a minute too processs. download button downloads local to your pc. but the stems are also in your Suno library

[round flare]

it's been like

10 mins

download folder still not updates tho

[half dragon]

Try another way.
Close that panel, go to your Library, click Filter to turn off "Hide Stems", then 3 dot menu on the Instrumental track > Downloads > Wav Audio

Or click that Edit in Studio
Then once in there, do Export > Multi-track
That will initiate download a zip file with both stems.

[round flare]

this happens

and then the window disappears

but download folder still not stems

[half dragon]

I just tested and it was working for me, on Chrome.
Maybe browser issue? clear cache and try again or try another browser.

[round flare]

ah

im using arc

lemme try clearing cache

ok it IS the cache

[wanton dew]

I sincerely beg the Suno team to keep the Remaster v4 feature. The v4 voice is truly the best—quiet yet powerful, without any unnecessary noise.

Please, I’m really asking from the bottom of my heart: bring it back.

And if possible, after you begin working with Warner Music Group, I hope you will avoid removing or disabling the current models (V4 and above). Some voices in our projects absolutely rely on V4 and V4.5.

I’m genuinely begging you. I spend at least $60 every month on Suno.

I truly love the enchanting sound of V4 and V4.5.

[tranquil hazel]

Download what you enjoy offline so you still have it even if old models are locked away due to copyright, don't rely on suno keeping your stuff online forever

[short rose]

find the cluster details for v4 and v5 and compare then adjust your style.. you may have to try a few different ways, but youll get it

hehe

[cerulean basalt]

Hey guys, am at work, so cant check this very moment, but I am wondering- if I do a Cover, and I run it through studio, and export it- will it still link to original artist or I will loose the connection? I wanted to keep it

[frozen dagger]

i'm pretty sure if it's a cover or remix of someone else's song it always shows the original source. if it is your track it's up to you to show remix origins.
I would keep an eye on it as WB signed a deal with Suno on Nov 25th. Not sure if things may change in the (near) future, but that seems like something that will remain the same.

[cerulean basalt]

Thank you, although I am only remixing my friends own tracks with their written lyrics

[echo moat]

suno won't let me downgrade so i can sign up for the annual discount

what do i need to do to get this working?

[halcyon sundial]

why doesnt extension swork after 5 minutes?

always bugged lyrics

[sleek stump]

Thats called "gaming the system", not sure if you are going to be successful with that.

[polar spade]

There is no such thing as immediate cancelation.... anymore. True.

.

[polar spade]

I think the next 48 hours, ill just make myself scarce. 😁

[solid quest]

Hello everyone hope this is the right spot for this, I've also emailed support.

I recently purchased a pro plan and was able to create my first persona.

However after that, any additional personas I try to create trigger a red error box at the bottom of the screen no matter what. I’ve tried the following:

Running on Edge, Firefox and Brave Browser
Running in incognito window
Multiple different prompts / descriptions
Basing it off of all of my thus-far generated songs
No uploaded song content
Clearing cache / browser history

Running on PC windows desktop

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance for your time.

[quiet solar]

Hey Angel - emailing Support is the best move - you may just need to wait to hear from them.

This isn't a tech support forum, but there are some helpful peeps here. If anyone has run into the same specific issue they might be able to give you somet advice, but I wouldn't expect or count on it.

[solid quest]

ok thanks for letting me know, appreciate it, will wait for support then

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-bow-michael-scott-steve-carell-office-gif-14973267

[half dragon]

Try these - #📚┃suno-school message

[solid quest]

thanks mate, unfortunately I'm not using uploaded audio and nothing I change (or leave empty) in the description makes a difference :\

I'm pretty sure I just got hacked by some music industry execs who are afraid of how epic my music is 🤔

[pure panther]

After the spinny thingy, you have to click download again.

[frozen dagger]

just to test. i would try creating a copy of the songs and see if it has different results. (if only to test for old buggy stuff)

[solid quest]

thank you I will try

[half dragon]

Also try to rename it if you haven't - there are cases of naming issue too.

[solid quest]

yeah I've tried renaming, making different personas, prompts etc. unfortunately :\

(ty though)

[polar spade]

Whats the error? "Cant generate clip" ? That one can be server issue side. Its Monday.

[solid quest]

No it just said "couldn't create persona" or something like that

[hard beacon]

well.. the "something like that" could be important for us 🙂

[polar spade]

You said you were not creating a persona from an output where the chain of history has no uploads.

So, tried either of these.

1. Edit your output down to half content to see if a persona can be made.

2)Certainly try making your first persona from another totally unrelated output, so it can help see where the problem may lie.

[solid quest]

I've tried with fresh tracks that are <30 secs as well

[hard beacon]

hmmm.. v5?

[polar spade]

Ohhhhh.... take out that long description. Sorry. it may say 2000 characters, but just blank out your description box and give it a go.

[hard beacon]

and... btw.. you can't create personas from remastered or covered tracks..

[solid quest]

already tried as well

[solid quest]

no remaster or covers, all fresh generations

[hard beacon]

with v5 and pro plan?

[polar spade]

ahhh... the long descripts have been hanging lots of folk over the past year.

[solid quest]

yeah, was able to make one persona then never again

yeah tried even with just literally no words, or less than ten words, didn't matter

[frozen dagger]

just to add to the troubleshooting thoughts. the tracks were made while a paid plan was active?

[solid quest]

yes

[polar spade]

And your title is short then as well? not all that (remaster)(cover)(cover) tags ... over about 50 characters it can act up

[solid quest]

"Warrior of Light" is the song title

"Female Cleric" is the persona name

I've also tried generating tracks with one word titles and making a persona with a single name like "bob" lol

but honestly that wouldn't make it better if it were the issue lol

[hard beacon]

hmm.. maybe this questions was answered before.. same problem on different browsers?

[solid quest]

yeah that's ok, tried on Edge, Firefox and Brave

[hard beacon]

ok.. that's weird

[frozen dagger]

maybe it bugged out when trying to use uploaded audio. u said u tried non-upload. so presuming that means u tried to use a purely suno made generation and it still gave an error message?

[hard beacon]

well.. just test it out.. for me the persona creation works fine

already logged out and logged in again @solid quest ?

[frozen dagger]

when you are creating the persona are you doing it from clicking the 3 dots next to the songs name and selecting "Create Persona" from there, or from another "New Persona" UI?

[quick wedge]

Having more than one free Suno account isn’t allowed is it?
I know that it’s not but someone else did it #💬┃general-chat message

I wanted to tell them but got scared thinking they’d get upset since I’m just a Suno user too can someone else check

[frozen dagger]

i tested it earlier when brought issue up and it is also working for me. it did give me a similar, or identical, error a few days ago.
Persona feature acts up sometimes. Suno as a whole is quite moody.

[hard beacon]

@quick wedge : In the Terms of Use you can find: You may not create more than one account to benefit from the free tier of the Service. If we believe you are not using the free tier in good faith, we may stop providing access to the Service.

[quick wedge]

It was someone else click the link

[hard beacon]

well.. that's the official answer 🙂

yapp 😄 sry bout that..

[empty jungle]

Anyone have ideas on how to prevent Suno from repeating the first chorus? I used to never have this issue, but for some reason it's doing it constantly

[frozen dagger]

blind suggestions would be to double check lyrics, maybe try turning weirdness slider down a little, if it is some form of remix the audio could be caussing an issue (especially if it has similar lyrics). cant really know what it is in your case, or if it's just Suno being moody.

[solid quest]

Unfortunately I never used chrome

[polar spade]

MmmOK. What you using?

[solid quest]

Firefox / Edge / Brave

I kinda draw the limit at that, if all those don't work I don't go get another browser for any app

[polar spade]

Yea. I get it. We all have our limits and parameters. So , if it continues, dont forget, if you want to expand those parameters in the future, Chrome is another option that Suno is quite familiar with.

[gilded zinc]

Hey Suno Team, I really need urgent help because this situation has become completely unacceptable.

I upgraded to the Pro plan, paid for it, everything was approved, and the plan was active. Then I tried to upgrade again to access the Studio features, and your billing system broke my account.

After the failed transaction, my account was automatically downgraded to Free even though I had already paid for Pro.
Right now (1 week) I have zero access to the features I paid for and I am literally being charged for a plan I cannot use.

To make things worse, I have sent several messages to your support team throughout the last week and I have not received any reply at all. Not even a ticket number. Nothing.

[hard beacon]

Please send an email to [e-mail]

or try to contact David on #archived-ticket-help

[gilded zinc]

I did it. 1 week trying.

[hard beacon]

well.. don't forget how many active users are on suno... even if only 1% will write emails that are a lot 🙂

Of course, this kind of problem is annoying, and I completely understand that. But you'll have to be patient.

[restive lotus]

I had the same issue

I just rebought premier

so I paid $64 in total, I am still waiting on an email back

[hard beacon]

well.. there are some more users with that problem in #archived-ticket-help .. maybe you have to take a look into that channel

[solid quest]

Now I'm getting an "elevated usage we can't generate that song" error....

[hard beacon]

well.. that can happen.. just try it again in a frew minutes 🙂

*few

[solid quest]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-eye-twitch-twitching-gif-4770864

[hard beacon]

had that one 5 minutes ago too 🙂

[solid quest]

lol ok

[polar spade]

i guess not that urgent

[hard beacon]

i'll bet suno can hire 20 people that are only responsible for support feedback and there will be still a delay time.. 🙂

[gilded zinc]

Thank you for the clarification. Here are my responses:

Yes, I was logged into my Pro account.

No, I did not wait 7 days. I upgraded to Pro on November 25 and spent a few hours testing the features on the same day. Everything was working correctly at that moment. Later that same day, I attempted to upgrade to Premier, but a billing error occurred with my credit card.

After that failed transaction, instead of keeping my Pro access, my account was downgraded and now shows as Free. All Pro features disappeared, and the system is prompting me to upgrade to Pro again even though I have already paid for it.

I did not cancel my Pro subscription at any time. The downgrade happened automatically after the billing error.

I have already sent the payment details via DM for your review. I would sincerely appreciate your assistance in restoring my Pro access or correcting my subscription status as soon as possible, since I was only able to use the plan for a few hours.

Thank you in advance for your help.

[polar spade]

If you were able to use the features, it would indicate you were good to go. Recently, the typical action would be to hold your account in status until the payment is posted to suno , THEN activate to use the features. Maybe this was a payment source you had used before and it was alreay pre-authorized.

Yea, seems that billing error may have triggered something retroactively against the Pro account as well as the pending Premier account.

Whats the status in your subscription page show. Does it have a "renew subscription" button?

And yea... I see in ticket-help youve mentioned youve started a DM to David.

[hard beacon]

And there's one thing you shouldn't forget. The payment system isn't from Suno but from a third-party provider. Maybe something went wrong there.

There are many possibilities 🙂 And we won't be able to clarify that here either.

[gilded zinc]

It looks like I never subscribed to the Pro plan, but I have the email confirming the subscription.

[hard beacon]

That would be like someone asking on the Windows support forum why a program always crashes 😉

@gilded zinc : was your bank account been debited ?

[gilded zinc]

Yes. I even used the Pro features before trying to upgrade, and that is when the error occurred.

[polar spade]

OK. No worries. Yes, it would be unusual with a new payment source to immediately have access to an Pro or Premium account. The international Banks spend a couple of days holding funds and Suno and we have to wait a couple of days before the subscriptions are activated and functioning.

Looks like you ended up , between the two attempts, only just trying to purchase a Premier account, you think?

So right now it says "Change commitment" under Premier, so you have a Monthly Premier plan , at least attempted to be paid for. Click the Monthly Bullet to change to monthly and see what plan is shown to be active.

[hard beacon]

And to add to what Dasvon said: We are really trying to help here, but we can't see into the technology either. Please try to contact @stuck junco avid via the #archived-ticket-help channel. Have your payment confirmation (email) ready for this.

We're sorry we couldn't give you the decisive clue.

[remote ivy]

6 glitched renders in a row...i fit ain't replacing violin with humming its glitching, repeating words, mispronouncing words, etcs...not a single credit returned on submitted bugs

[leaden marsh]

Anyone know how to prevent Suno from singing the Style-Perompt

[spice birch]

So something just happened to me that hasn't happened before. Made a song using Personas and it sounded good. Went back to download it and it's not there anymore. The song disappeared from my Playlist that I just created 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hard beacon]

@leaden marsh ????

[leaden marsh]

Yep in all the stuff I create it sometimes starts replacing parts of my Lyrics with part of the style Prompt

[hard beacon]

are we talking about the stuff you write in your "STYLES" or are we talking about Metatags in the Lyric section?

[leaden marsh]

In the STYLES area

[hard beacon]

hmm... to be honest.. never heard of that problem before.. The vocals actually have nothing to do with the style prompt.

[pure panther]

It happens, make sure your style prompt uses primarily commas for separation of ideas. I find too many other punctuation symbols can confuse it.

[hard beacon]

can you send us an audio output example ?? (suno song link)

[leaden marsh]

One song it created was fine but other songs suddenly had some parts of the Lyrics replaced with some styles and one version of the song was only 1 min 47 and there where only the styles which got sung

I think you won't understand anything bcs it's in german

[hard beacon]

what is in german???

🤔

[leaden marsh]

My Lyrics and the Styles I put in

[hard beacon]

achso... jetzt hab ich es verstanden.. doch.. das verstehe ich schon.. keine Sorge 😉

[leaden marsh]

bcs I'm german

Ok

[hard beacon]

just wanna take a look into your prompts to figure out the problem

[leaden marsh]

Should I send it here or should I send you it private

[hard beacon]

however you want.. maybe some other people in here can take a look into it

[leaden marsh]

Ok with this prompt I created different songs but in most of them it started to sing the style prompt

#STYLE (DO NOT SING • TECHNICAL INFO ONLY)

Emotional Disney-style German Tribute Ballad mit warmem Piano, weichen Streichern, Flöte, Klarinette, Harfe, dezenten Brass-Swells und sanfter Cinematic Percussion, Männliche Leadstimme: warm, weich, emotional, leicht musical-theatrical, Verses intim, zurückhaltend, erzählend; Melodie fließend, leicht fallend und zart, Pre-Chorus steigert sich mit wachsenden Strings und schwebenden Woodwinds, Chorus groß, hoffnungsvoll, strahlend, mit weit getragenen Melodiebögen und warmem orchestralen Lift; Final Chorus mit zarter Choir-Atmosphäre, Stimmung: tief berührend, dankbar, nostalgisch, familiär, tröstend, Akkorde: Verse G–Em–C–D, Pre-Chorus Am–D–Bm–Em, Chorus C–G–D–Em, Bridge Em–C–G–D, Tempo 70–78 BPM, Fokus auf Herz, Wärme, Rückblick und emotionaler Nähe – wie ein Disney-Moment der Dankbarkeit, (END STYLE)

I tried asking chatgpt too but even Chatgpt can't really help

[hard beacon]

sorry for all the english boys and girls in here.. i have to write german coz it's easier now: schick doch bitte mal deinen suno-song-link. Dann ist es deutlich leichter zu erkennen, warum das System scheinbar informationen aus deinem styleprompt für die lyrics verwendet...

[leaden marsh]

https://suno.com/s/Dw5kTMhSExZ8K9Zr

wrong one this is the one where it work ed fine

https://suno.com/s/EFfvcCwwDE3uPUrZ

[hard beacon]

ok.. hold on a sec... listen to it

[leaden marsh]

this is one of many where it started singing the styles I think

[hard beacon]

first of all: very emotional deep text 🙂 but i know what you are talking about.. that's weird..

[leaden marsh]

Could it be that its a bug?

[hard beacon]

i'll write you private.. hold on

[leaden marsh]

k

[graceful condor]

When I give my profile link to my friends. It says the profile is not found

[hard beacon]

whats the link? let's test it out 🙂

[graceful condor]

Wait

https://suno.com/@jinx619

[hard beacon]

well.. it works fine

[half dragon]

Works for me too.

[graceful condor]

Really?

😩😩😩

[half dragon]

Yeah opened it in Cognito windows gave me the same.

[quick wedge]

Try upgrading your web browser and see if that helps or refreshing the page

[graceful condor]

They are opening it through their phone

[quick wedge]

Your profile views fine on my end too and I use safari browser but on my chrome browser it’s showing not found

[graceful condor]

And when they open it in a browser still the same

[half dragon]

My profile isn't available either if I am not logged in to Suno.

[graceful condor]

Even on mobile it doesn't work

[half dragon]

You might want to share the playlist or specific song link instead.

[graceful condor]

That will be a hassle. 😔

[half dragon]

I found the trick: try with suno.ai instead of .com
Weird but it's working there

[hard beacon]

here too

[graceful condor]

@half dragon okay i will try

Nope

[half dragon]

you're right - failed.

[hard beacon]

let me check the link with my mobile

it's working

[graceful condor]

Pc and mobile don't work. They said it keeps saying profile not found

[half dragon]

I thought it was working for me briefly but then I tried again , it doesn't work

[hard beacon]

naarf

try to use shouturl.at and paste your link to create a shorten url 🙂

[graceful condor]

Do they need to be a member?

[restive pebble]

I've had that happen when I use parenthesis inside the style section.

[half dragon]

So far, I see one has to be logged in to see other profiles

[graceful condor]

I see. That sucks

[half dragon]

Maybe something has changed recently.

[graceful condor]

They want to listen to the songs I created. But it's a hassle to give them the link to the song 1 by 1

[hard beacon]

Let's do a comparison test... Does the link work? https://suno.com/@wolkenfaenger_music

[graceful condor]

@hard beacon

It works

[half dragon]

Yes it does if I'm logged in. BUT doesn't if I opened on Cognito (without logged in)

[graceful condor]

I guess you're special 😉

[leaden marsh]

I've got it fixed now thanks to Robin but thanks. The problem was that I wrote the Styles in german, but what's funny is, before I upgraded to Suno Pro, I could write the Styles in german. The Ai didn't replaced the Lyrics, but after I upgraded, I can't write the Styles in german bcs if I do that, the Ai sings only the styles or replaces some parts from my Lyrics with parts of the Styles

[graceful condor]

@hard beacon

It opens in Firefox mobile but not through the app

[molten moth]

I was working with Suno Pro and wanted to take advantage of the Black Friday offer to upgrade to Premium. Not only did I not receive a payment receipt, but my status is still stuck on Free, even though it appears as Premier in my current status, and it's locked. I tried contacting [e-mail], but it doesn't work; I get an invalid email address. I tried calling SUNO INC, and I just hear a hold music and then the call drops. THERE IS NO WAY TO CONTACT SUNO INC to find out what's going on. Is this a scam? Can anyone give me any pointers on how to get help and service from SUNO? Lots of artificial intelligence, but little efficiency. Thanks for any help or guidance.

[neat nexus]

Have you sent an email to [e-mail] already?

[graceful condor]

@molten moth

How come its 14.40 mine is 24 a month

[molten moth]

Yes, since Thursday. There's no response.

[neat nexus]

Check various currency exchange rates, also consider if the annual or monthly plan is chosen.

[neat nexus]

Then please confine these posts in #archived-ticket-help as this is not a tech support channel. This is a chanel to craft prompts and discuss prompting. Thank you for your understanding.

[graceful condor]

@neat nexus

The pro plan is $10.00 a month, and the premier is $24.00. But his is 4.80 and 14.40

[neat nexus]

Sure. But is that New Zealand dollars? Canadian dollars? Ecuadorian? Bahama?

You see the issue? I don't have enough information. Neither do you.

[graceful condor]

Oh so it depends on the location

[neat nexus]

Currency exchange is a thing.

[graceful condor]

Ok I got it

[neat nexus]

Look at all the places that use "dollars" and not always the United States Dollar either...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar

[graceful condor]

But still, my problem about my profile link can't be opened. None of my friends could open it.

@neat nexus

I said, I understand

[molten moth]

There's no way. I even contacted Stripe, the payment platform Suno uses for collections. They were very helpful and gave me Suno's email address and phone number so I could try contacting them directly. Nothing worked, and now they're going to try to help me file some kind of legal claim. But it's all very cumbersome; Suno's customer service seems inadequate.

[graceful condor]

@neat nexus

And didn't know that it depends on the currency. That's why I was curious.

[neat nexus]

Seems to open for me?

[graceful condor]

Well, not for them

Not on pc or mobile

[half dragon]

I'm on PC and it's working too
BUT if I logged out, that profile doesn't show up. Mine the same.

[graceful condor]

I'm new so I don't know much about Suno

[molten moth]

I use US $, and it worked till now. Something is not clear with Sunos management.

[sleek stump]

User profiles are generally only seen if you are LOGGED IN to suno, been that way for well over a year.

[graceful condor]

@half dragon

Exactly. At least you understand

[half dragon]

Interesting. I have no idea. Never tried before 🙂

[graceful condor]

@sleek stump

And that's not good. People are supposed to be able to see the profile even if they're not members or not logged in

[sleek stump]

Suno is yet to be any kind of distributor, so access to Suno users is only by also having a Suno account of any kind.

[graceful condor]

How can you share with friends

That sucks big time

[sleek stump]

They can sign up for a free acount...

They dont have to do anything else

[graceful condor]

They don't want to

[sleek stump]

SOunds like a them problem 😄

[half dragon]

It is what it is. You can't just share your profile to non Suno users at this point.
Share a different way if that's important.

[graceful condor]

Why hassle to make an account just to see my page

[cerulean basalt]

is it possible to change the display in the Library to see, for example 100 tracks instead of what is there, like 20?

[sleek stump]

Keep in mind that Suno is still in an experimental state, things are changing rapidy. Once they get into a more commercially stable state, they may allow non users to view profiles. We just dont know if or when that could be.

[graceful condor]

Like Spotify, Pinterest, and IG it's available to look at with anyone

[sleek stump]

Nope, thats something that has been asked for tough.

[cerulean basalt]

i have to change pages

[graceful condor]

So I guess no solution

[sleek stump]

The only solution currently would be for you to download your catalog and host them somewhere else so your friends can access them.

[graceful condor]

@sleek stump

That's too much work.

[polar spade]

hmmm... I send playlist links to my family. They see it just fine.

[neat nexus]

Please send a DM to DAViD with your support ticket number and a song link.

[graceful condor]

@polar spade

Well good for you. Mine is not working

[neat nexus]

Also this is not the tech support section. These posts should be in #archived-ticket-help

[graceful condor]

@polar spade

So hhmm. Not working with my friends.

[polar spade]

No sarcasm or patronizing intended, mate. I'm saying, as a comparison, Ive sent links of my playlists which work fine, which that option you may not have yet tried.

[half dragon]

Not profile, but sharing playlist or songs should work.

[cerulean basalt]

is that on mac?

[half dragon]

No Windows PC.

[cerulean basalt]

so am guessing its an installed Suno, am using browser

[graceful condor]

Honestly wth have they done again to f this up so bad again? Really literally each day or week something else is messed up AGAIN. For a couple of days already you can't extend songs in most cases. Because the Ai still can't read prompts and should clearly see that there is 1/3 or sometimes half of the song left and it still cuts it off.

OK do so but at least we can extend RIGHT? NO! Because I do not know what they done AGAIN but all I get a freakin stupid 2-10 sec. extends which are absolute trash. And NO I do not wanna go back much further in the song to extend from there because what I have is perfect and why should I sacrifice it. Really can they for once fix something or manage to offer a stable product...this is really getting old.

@polar spade

Well, the playlist thing works. Thanks for that. I will share the playlist with them. Thanks again. Cause sharing the song 1 by 1 is a hassle

[polar spade]

Glad it worked. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

[graceful condor]

@polar spade

Nah, it's fine. It's just frustrating. But hey at least you helped me.

Honestly a freakin hate this

Suno is literally getting worse each week more and more.

[polar spade]

I know. But pick one of those 2 sec-10sec ones that might sound like a transition and extend off of that one. Hopefully it will give something a bit longer.

[graceful condor]

I took a bit of a break because I felt burnt out music wise. So how long is this issue known already because 2 - 2 1/2 weeks ago this wasn't as bad as it is now.

Is it new-ish?

[polar spade]

The 2 second extends issue. For quite a while. but not as often it seems. I just considering it a twitch, not even a glitch, now. If I get 4 in a row, I just extend from one of them and move on

[neat nexus]

What time are you extending from when you try to extend?

[graceful condor]

It depends. I do not like to ruin a song if all before was great. So I extend where it fits the best this is how I always did it. Sometimes only 2 seconds before the song was cut off, sometimes 20 seconds or more. Or instant too which worked most of the time before but as it seems not now anymore in many instantces.

[neat nexus]

I've noticed that by default the extend from time thing seems to pick a random position to resume from. No idea why this change was made.

As for myself, I try to find a good place that I can resume from from before the end while keeping the stuff that made me like that version to begin with. This may mean adjusting my resume from time to match the best resumption point. If that means within a few seconds of a vocal ending or after a solo of some kind, I adjust by degrees (seconds) in either direction until I get what I consider a good natural resume from the last good part.

[lucid moon]

Please, is the "extend" function working with someone? I'm trying to extend one song since an hour and it's impossible, everyting i'm generating is broken (incomprehensible)

[rough reef]

Please. Can you give me a phrase, a prompt, to ask SUNOAI not to generate "BUILD UP" in all my songs? VERSE and then build up to the Bridge and another build up between the bridge and the CHORUS.

[unborn star]

It's depending on the genre

Maybe you should tell in style box, that it should'nt BUILD UP at any time

[crimson thorn]

How can i stop suno songs from yelling all the damn time? I literally state i want a calm, relaxed song, but it keeps screaming like there’s no tomorrow. It’s annoying.

[polar spade]

We recently talk about using introspective, and maybe contemplative (<--- ive not used that before) along with perhaps "adagio" to help slow things down.

[young mantle]

What's the trick to get the flow of the lyrics to match the rhythm of the beat???! 95% of the time it doesn't match WTF

[shrewd willow]

Guys I am having a trouble where all my songs start with vocals-like scatting over instruments

I already tried a lot of prompts on negative prompt field to avoid that

but its still happening

what the heck is going on

[agile plinth]

If you want to extend a track from EXACTLY the place you choose then use a DAW.

It's really really easy in DAW.

Due to the algorithm used by Suno it is impossible for it to just begin suddenly where you choose, so it has to go back before the place you choose and blend in that way.

Otherwise you would hear a VERY clear and distinct shift when a new section happens, and likely a huge CRACK Pop sound depending on where the waveform changes

[agile plinth]

100% of the time it matches for me.

Build ups are genre specific.

If you don't want build ups don't choose EDM genres or similar. For example the style Bluegrass, Country won't have any build ups.

Also putting stuff in all caps isn't gonna matter, and as you can see the negative prompts don't respond to things like build ups, they are for musical styles so if you have a prompt of "heavy metal music" and you hate death metal, you can use "death metal" as a negative prompt

[vocal remnant]

Is there a way to only take away hi-hats

[raw oasis]

no, you would need to prompt for that, using a fresh prompt (negative style also hi-hat, hi-hats) to get the correct drum groove.
In Studio, there would not be a Hi-hat track you could take out.
And so likewise could not stem them out and remove them in a DAW unless you had maybe a Drum track splitter for existing song but then quality could be nil.
https://suno.com/s/S0Ua6FtBqhVDdOMt

https://suno.com/s/M9w7oBYRyzt6JVCY

[quiet solar]

It's a known quirk of v5, and there isn't a straightforward way to use exclusion prompts to stop it.

Your best bet with all things Suno is to tell it what you do want in style and lyric prompts rather than what you don't want. If you specify an instrumental intro section with a few things going on musically, that can sometimes distract it from the temptation to bring the vocalist in for some ad-libs to warm up.

Alternatively, try creating the initial song in v4.5 and Remastering to v5.

[fathom jasper]

guys can you please help me ? I have in all my instrumental songs some weird backround sounds, noise . I don't even know what is it . Do you have also this experience ?

[raw oasis]

sure.. just as an example sometimes when I extract stems and download into my DAW I nuke the entire FX track. (or EQ out the high end hiss)
Other times people benefit from workflows like this #1417162963709857913 message

Yours definitely sounds like static. 🙁

I don't know how SUNO was trained, but sometimes I wish it had just been trained on high quality instrument samples and music theory / composition.

Regen around it? Give it another go sometimes helps.

[fathom jasper]

i made already around 1000 songs and 99 percent have this issue 😄

[raw oasis]

do you DAW by chance? can clip that high end eq hiss.

[fathom jasper]

I am using Ableton studio EQ8 and is not catching that , it feels like is not a audio noise but new music instrument if you understand me . Do you have better options like Ableton ?

[raw oasis]

that's weird. No, I am too new to have other recommends and just use what comes in Studio One (Pro EQ3).
Ugh..

try that #1417162963709857913 message approach?

and there is not a Stem like FX stem adding the noise?

[fathom jasper]

Yeah i am back in music after 10 years, making beats before and rap.Using Ableton before. I will try that prompt looks promising .

[undone beacon]

**Copyright violations and how SUNO reads it. **

(Tune Vibe: Gritty Johnny Cash meets mellow Zach Bryan—acoustic core, mandolin twang, band kick in chorus. Keep it campfire simple.)

WHY SUNO TAKES BRILHO'S NAMES BUT REJECTS YOURS (AND MINE)

1. Our phrases style references like a vibe, not a directive.

“Gritty Johnny Cash meets mellow Zach Bryan — acoustic core…”
That’s vibe language, not a hard label.
Suno treats it like mood-flavoring, not a trademark demand.

2. Suno rejects direct attribution but accepts comparative imagery.

If I say:
“In the style of Johnny Cash”
Suno sees it as a violation.

But if Brilho says:
“Gritty Johnny Cash”-type grit
Suno reads it as texture, not copyright violation.

3. Suno’s filter is hypersensitive to other's phrasing because they tend to be precise.

When you write:
“Outlaw country in the style of Johnny Cash + Zach Bryan”
It looks like a request for replication. Rejected.

But when Brilho writes:
“Johnny Cash meets mellow Zach Bryan energy”
It looks like a mood metaphor. Accepted.

4. Brilho uses looser syntax, less structured formatting, and Suno loves that.

Suno hates structure.
Suno hates clarity.
Suno is like a drunk horse: you have to guide it loosely, not give it marching orders.

Okay, now go to work today and get your vibes in before it is taken away.

[undone beacon]

you found a 1%'r ? thought it was a matrix 100

[graceful condor]

Honestly I am really thinking changing my Sub from premier to pro. Because at this state of suno it is no fun anymore. They do not care, they do not fix anything for weeks and months. Nothing has change. Misspelling since 5 started nothing changed, extends not working for a couple of weeks now as it seems. I am really sick of this. And no communications only vage stuff. Like the download thing. We do not even know how much we can download if those so called "great changes in 26" are coming.

[pine ibex]

ok

i made a suno email and 6 days later, no response

[wise kindle]

#archived-ticket-help is the place to go for ticket followups

[pine ibex]

ok

[wise kindle]

just to clarify, it's not always necessary. it's just a good place to go if it's taking a while as team members are able to pass it along for you or deal with it directly if they can.

[pine ibex]

ok

[graceful condor]

not counting on it. They are only capable of ruining the whole system day by day. A billion dollar company can't afford to have company testing servers and instead we get "Silent Feature Pushes" no transparency, no talking and trust vanishes. And we paying customers are just beta testers for their experiements.

[latent igloo]

Hell'o all,
I’m using Suno v5, but I’m tired of the long intros — 30 to 60 seconds — that it almost always generates for me.
How could I avoid that, please?

[tough sonnet]

sunoprompt.com
is this site good for better prompts

[vocal remnant]

@tough sonnet thats cool

Wait a hot minute...this might help someone if you can read it i had a conversation with chat gpt about why suno added drakes name in the intro for one of my songs and it gives us a clue to how suno may work:

Suno thought I was Drake lol

[latent igloo]

thanks but it's not what I'm looking for 🙂

[tough sonnet]

thanks but I was asking to get a better place to kearn good prompting

[vocal remnant]

The short descriptions related to not deep music theory in this discords #1294418290348921007 channel are vital. Basically, suno is giving you what you feed it and learning those terms and what they mean to tell suno exactly what you want is the golden ticket. Suno is literally analyzing our styles from the words we use to the styles we choose and also in great part our likes.

Even what we write about..

[sleek stump]

This is generally genre specific. Most genre and sub genre/styles have varying intro and outro lengths that are common in them. Suno will try very hard to maintain those commonalities. Things thats can help;
-Use varying sub genre
-Change the genre completely and cover to your target genre
-Use the negative window in the advanced options section to exclude some aspects
-Describe more detail in the Styles window about how you want the intro to proceed.
--Models starting with 4.5 benefit from more detailed prompting using more real world descriptions. Using the Magic Wand in the upper right corner of Styles can help.

[vocal remnant]

If im right because I think like a robot sometimes apparantly...then if you label your song parts within the lyrics like [Intro] blah blah blah [Verse 1] blah blah blah and then in the style section you tell it to introduce the song with fading in drums for example and then the intro after 6 seconds...
And you have to use brackets like that in the lyrics part ...but I think that will work

I done figured suno out. This is why some of my songs sounded like pink, Mariah Carey, lady gaga, without saying it because I write like them...which means I have to learn music theory if im going to be unique ugh

[onyx sparrow]

yo guys what up

i have few problem with the musik the side channel or the pages sound extrem muddy

is there any positiv prompt or negativ prompt against that?:>

[sleek stump]

Keep in mind that Suno does not handle time duration requests. Asking for 6 seconds of something is normally ignored. Your best control of length of some sections is through use of genre styles. SUno uses what it was trained on for overall and section length and it will generally ignore any prompting for specific length.

[neat nexus]

What are you doing right now?

[hard beacon]

Funny... and all the people who want to create electronic music in extended mixes can't get the intros right 🙂

[neat nexus]

Intros in what sense?

[hard beacon]

mixable dj intros

with 4.5+ no problem.. but v5 is struggling with it 🙂

but for me it's no problem.. i'll do the workaround with a DAW 😉

[neat nexus]

You mean stuff like 'Are you ready to make some noise?' or other callouts in the beginning of some tracks? A vocal thing?

[hard beacon]

no no... there are radio mixes and extended mixes for EDM music

for example 32 bar long intros with kicks and percs only

[sharp kettle]

v5 is def stuggling with the instrumental feature in certain genres of music it keep pulling from one of the other 4 artists of certain eras but when people are making music with the sound of the era like 1950- about 1972 most art going for ether elvis, buddy holly or little Richard rock sound as an example... i keep getting chucky barry sound when im going for elvis or little richard lol

[neat nexus]

Do you have a link on YouTube to what you're talking about specifically?

I need to hear what you hear.

[hard beacon]

hold on.. will send you a DM

[neat nexus]

BRB...will respond once I get it,

[hard beacon]

no stress 😉

[radiant thorn]

RIP the cover feature. Time stamps, brackets, etc etc, nothing works on any model and all of my songs get covered until 2 minutes in, then it just makes up the rest

[neat nexus]

I think I'm seeing what you're talking about. At least in direct comparison with the track you showed me...

[hard beacon]

🙂

[neat nexus]

Where I'm lost is that I'm not sure if it's a model issue or if people are having a hard time prompting correctly. 🙁

[hard beacon]

v5 is struggling with it.. trust me 😉 80% sucess with v4.5+ and 5% with v5 with same prompts and metatags

i've tested it with a lot of tracks and different prompts 😉

[polar spade]

Experience seems to be the better thing for better prompting, from my.... experience.

Any of these websites are fine to give prompts. Keep in mind some prompting may have worked better or "one way" with ver 4.5 and another way with 5.0, so prompts alone wont be the panacea go-to.

You can get similar results but more current if you use a chatbot like Grok Assistant. Ask the very thing you want.
"Current prompting techniques to work with Suno."
"Why doesnt this work" "why did I get this result from that prompt"

[neat nexus]

What I tend to do right now is make my track in v4.5+ and then see if I can get a good upscale of that with v5 once I have my sound.

This was as close as I got testing but I don't do much EDM. I just play around with it when I do anything with it....

https://suno.com/s/JEX0ocgXrUPFyOar

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I like the sound but I don't think I did the thing you were looking for.

[hard beacon]

correct... for DJs it's not mixable in the typical way...

but for now.. sounds like some edm outputs that i've created 😉

[neat nexus]

Cool. Lets me have something to play with once I think I have lyrics that match the styles. Thanks. Sorry that I couldn't prove you wrong. I was hoping it was a matter of prompting.

Is there any chance Suno "knows" what you're looking for but has some kind of different naming for it?

We've found all sorts of strange modifiers in the past with this stuff. It recognizes some orchestral directions as [Metatags] for instance.

[hard beacon]

i've tried a lot of different prompts and metatags.. must be a v5 "bug" 🙂

but you can try, if you wanna have fun with that sound, to create a remix out of this... it's my only track that's published on Suno ... original was produced with FL Studio... Vocals were made with Suno Studio.. and i've added some elements.. that's why it's called "Suno Studio Edit" 🙂 https://suno.com/song/1351622c-1b16-491e-919b-a34a0cc9566b

[radiant thorn]

How many people strictly use suno to cover/remix original audio played with real instruments, then split the result into stems and incorporate it into their non-AI generated music?

Is the cover/remix feature utterly failing them as much as it is for me?

[raw oasis]

I do composition imports, suno covers, extends, studios, exports, remixes, DAW mixing, Mastering.

I love Suno. No complaints other than it does not do Note for Note composition. 😉 .. kidding.. kidding..

Use Scaler 3, Studio One, thinking about bringing MuseScore or Dorico into my workflow

[radiant thorn]

I know note for note isn’t a possibility, but it used to get the general structure/chords/length of my uploaded audio at least 90% right as recently as a couple months ago

[raw oasis]

I feel that sometimes.. other times I am like oh so satisfied; but mind you only 2 months heavy usage not like some long timers.

I love love love how it did this one: https://suno.com/s/XNKiacku0h3uLAjg
to: https://suno.com/song/1a24b2ab-61b2-4ba3-8625-6a94bf433740

[raw oasis]

do you use MuseScore, Dorico, or (Sibelius/Finale) to try note for note composition?

[radiant thorn]

Never heard of them. Note for note in what sense?

[raw oasis]

Music Scores/music notation, Suno has the capability for example to take a midi melody and use it for a vocal.

But yeah I also do Guitar tracks, VST instrument mix uploads, but not near enough yet .. cause always get that generate one more time button itch in Suno... but hoping to be more strict with my process/uploads soon. 😆 ..

cause honestly tiring of randomness more and more.

and also what happens if Suno gets so good everyone and their mother can do INCREDIBLE music masterpieces...
do we want that?

[outer thunder]

I know i'm probably the 1000th person to say this here, but maybe it needs to be said: Not being able to upload a modified version of a track I uploaded 10 minutes ago because "Uploaded audio matches existing work of art." is insane.

[outer thunder]

And even more insane is, that it usually works on the second try 😆

[polar spade]

Love it when a problem resolves itself.

[fathom jasper]

try to add song structured tags,[Intro]
...
...
[Build]
...
...
[Instrumental Interlude]
...
...
...
[Build]

[polar spade]

@undone musk

**"....is there information regarding remix contests - entered one, found it a useful learning tool for me at this point. I was successful at rearranging things like i.e. crowded sections overlapping and structure things. I would like to know more about what it's graded on or what's expected so I can begin adding more elements. If that makes sense....." **

I moved the response here from the Spark Challenge song submission room .... as that was a song submission only channel.

The Remix contests are a quick one-off kind of thing. Moreso as a promotion as well as a fun challenge for a quick reward. Theres really no chat room of sorts to discuss strategy and the rules are minimal. So the judging criteria is likely the opinions of the judges in things such as impact, trendy, catchy, contains the vibe of the original, and so on, and not as much a set list of things. Theres never a mention if the Suno artist is a judge as well, on these last 3 or so, that Ive read.

These seem more relaxed (such as no written contract to agree to) and therefore, more fun to participate in.

I wouldnt think one might judge that the skill to do this or that was well mastered , but rather "that was a nice blend or the change was well-done"

My personal opinion, of course.

[onyx sparrow]

need more style space

2k words would be perfect...

[raw oasis]

what are you putting down there that goes beyond 500 chars?

[onyx sparrow]

i like a big formattingxD

with space

[restive pebble]

I think I confuse suno enough with the current 1k chars andam lucky to have it make a song for my lyrics lol

More space would be good but we're working with what we have and it seems to be effective enough.

[sleek stump]

Opinions what they are... a lot of us would disagree. Overloading the style prompt.. more is not better 😉

[onyx sparrow]

...

[neat field]

when making a Cover/Remix of another users song, it is no longer possible to then make a Persona from that Cover/Remix, although i don't see announcements when that changed

such that if i make a banger Cover voice from another users seed in a totally new style, that totally new style cannot be made a Persona

are Persona Covers expected behavior? did i miss it in announcements?

[onyx sparrow]

ginger whats up sis

how i get this styled name?

[sleek stump]

Part of Discord Nitro

[onyx sparrow]

Nitro?

u pay for discord?

hahaha

[sleek stump]

Discords subscription

[onyx sparrow]

and what u get it for that?

a kick in the a ss

xD

[sleek stump]

Bigger limits on file sizes, stream quality, and cosmetics.

[onyx sparrow]

sry

ohkay

[sleek stump]

I can upload 100mb files.

[onyx sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/alrighty-then-jim-carrey-ace-ventura-gif-7715492

so long its not wasted money

100 mb not that big

[sleek stump]

I am gainfully employed so the cost is worth it to me.

[onyx sparrow]

100 gb would be better xD

[onyx sparrow]

ohkay

[sleek stump]

Besides, I like to support the companies that develope apps I like and use.

[onyx sparrow]

You are a treasure:>

gold treasure

okay maybe the translater mssed up the words

u say this in english " u are a gold treasure"?

i d think so

Treasure of gold

[quick wedge]

For casual talking you can use the other channel https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1069381916492562585

[onyx sparrow]

°_°

https://tenor.com/view/alrighty-then-alright-alright-then-ace-ventura-jim-carrey-gif-4393391682014289361

cya

[pure panther]

I just added a bubbly style prompt to tragic song lyrics and I'm amazed how deranged it makes it sound 😂

[polar spade]

Friendly reminder, If it helps, using right-click and click ' reply' would help others to follow who you may be responding to.

[deft flower]

Hey guys 😄
Maybe some1 can help me: I'm creating a song for my daughter, but her namer is giving Suno a hard time. It's Elea and its pronounced E-Le-A - but Suno sings "Ela" like 90% of the time. Is there a way to force the 3 syllables?

[pure panther]

You can spell it phonetically in the lyrics, then correct it in the song details after

@deft flower

[deft flower]

how do i need to format that?

[pure panther]

I had to put kurst for cursed yesterday, it kept saying curs-ed

I just look up how to spell a thing phonetically on google

I had to use leeJun for legion

[deft flower]

google says i shoud do E-le-a but thats not the phonetic alpabet if i'm not mistaken

[pure panther]

I might do, ahleah

[deft flower]

i'll try all versions, every chorus with one way, and see which one sounds about right xD

[polar spade]

Le can be lee or luh.... so E-le-a might get a french sound of eluh-uh ( and even that sounds Hawaiian now)

Id go with uh-lee-ya

[deft flower]

E-leh-ah did the trick (its german 😛 )

not the name, but the song

[north wharf]

Greetings to the team. 👋
I need help. Every time I try to generate a song, I get the same error message. I quote the message: "Error during creation
Creation failed due to an internal error. Please wait a few seconds and try again."

I don't know what the problem is and I would be grateful for help in solving this problem.

What's even more confusing to me is that everything worked fine when I was using the free version, I could generate five songs a day without any problems. Now that I've paid for the Pro version, I can't generate anything at all. I've tried various ways to generate a song and uninstalled the App and installed it and the same thing happens again. "Error ..."
Tnx 👍

[raw oasis]

one possibility could be a reserved word/name in prompts? I once could not create a persona named "Fire Soprano" because behind the scenes Soprano was a reserved word. Only after I opened Chrome Dev tools and saw the POST message error did I know why.

[latent igloo]

I always use this kind of tags:

[intro]
[First verse - ]

[Chorus - ]

[Second verse - ]

[Chorus - ]

[Bridge - ]

[Final Chorus - ]

[Outro - ]

[End]

but I have always an instrumental intro at least 20s, even I write something like [Intro - very short, ~5 seconds] or add lyrics in intro :/

[spiral bane]

anyone else noticing v5 is hallucinating a lot, and cutting songs in about half with teh generations ?

[gilded mist]

For me it fully generates it but about half way through the song tags like [Male Vocalist] or [Female Vocalist] become more inconsistent. Sometimes he does them, some times he doesnt. Unfortunate.

[spiral bane]

yea those tags tend to be unreliable, best option is the vocal gender selection in the adv options

[gilded mist]

only really an option if you want to have either or for the full song.
I have Verses that I try to get sung by a Male Vocalist and only one or two lines by a Female Vocalist.
Or other examples are Verse by Males, Chorus by Female. But the Bridge right after that is meant to be sung by a Male Vocalist gets sung by a Female instead, no matter how many [Male Vocalist] I throw at it or where I place them.

Extending 20x is also not an option imho because it will just destroy any kind of consistency of the song.

[spiral bane]

the the infamous duet, its hard to get .

[pure panther]

For me to even get the right male/female vocal spread, I've had to make it all female, then cover and make it all male and splice the two together.

[gilded mist]

sadly

[spiral bane]

yea 100% did that before... does not work ....

[gilded mist]

so far I havent had luck with that since the pacing and generations are way to far apart even with the same prompt.
Extracting the Vocal Stem and covering it to male sadly also changes tempo, pronounciation, pacing etc.

[pure panther]

It's definitely hit or miss. I once got it to switch between a choir and solo singer correctly all on it's own too, but you have to spend a lot of credits to get there in my experience.

[spiral bane]

gospel choris and having a singer is not too difficult to do.

[pure panther]

Ahh yes, but it wasn't gospel and it had to switch back and forth a lot.

[spiral bane]

yea yea

[pure panther]

It was difficult lol

[spiral bane]

thas a lot harder

[gilded mist]

I really wish "Advanced" Options one day will truly become "advanced" instead of 3 sliders and a Vocal-Gender Button.
Something akin to "seed", "generation quality", "Context length", "Context Start - Finish" and some more.

[spiral bane]

im sure they are working on it you have a bit more control in studio... but the features there are limited...

[gilded mist]

Suno imho in most music genres already sounds incredibly great, but it still has a "click to spin roulette" feeling to it, instead of being really able to tinker with it and steer it more.

[gilded mist]

I am not expecting it, but I'd really love for them to drop a big update around christmas eve, as a present or something like that.
I really do not want to come off negative or just complain, but I also didn't feel like they updated Studio a lot since it dropped.
The only thing that comes to mind is the update to lock the Tempo on exports in Studio :/

[spiral bane]

i would want to generate in studio, list the instrumentation that I want part of it doesnt really do that right now.

[gilded mist]

omg yes!

[spiral bane]

but yea they wont update for xmas most tech companies have change freezes during the holiday period

[gilded mist]

One can hope

🤣

[spiral bane]

ive been working in tech for 16 years, it would be a lot of hopes and prayers

[gilded mist]

But I agree. I'd love to be able to launch Studio and start from scratch and finish the song there just through prompting.

[spiral bane]

yea would be much better

[gilded mist]

I have some paid leave days coming up and I planned on testing some workflows then, like humming melodies and covering them in studio to create the instruments that way, but I wonder how well that all fits together into a song after all.

[gilded mist]

I also just noticed, Suno still has an issue where the Song gets progressively "louder" which makes clipping or poor audio quality more and more likely the longer a song is.

[sharp kettle]

finally got that 1972 sound i wanted i learned how to seperate the lyrics brackets to get better results in v5..
that was a great timing tip as well

btw its hilerious that suno things a 3 minute and 15 second song need a 5 minute and 47 version.....

this is not a queen inspired song baby that would be more the new horizens national anthem or a song name that would house might censor lol https://suno.com/s/8aNb08YiMkX8XPDz

btw the tech prompt for the music genre i have in many of my songs is, [rock& roll, dance rock fusion] [rock& roll, exotic danc, dance rock fusion] , [rock& roll, dance rock, edm fusion] [rock& roll, dance rock, r&b fusion]

suno is gonna have one hell of a time pulling that new sound lol

[sharp kettle]

how would i write hip pop hand drumbeat.. so i dont get pop music in the song.

[wise kindle]

can't say I've heard of hip pop before. Did you mean hip-hop?

[sharp kettle]

nope its where the drum hits a sing note so you can pop your hip to the left or the right
its usally bap bap on tha hand drum if you on sheet music its a single note with bap or if exotic it single note hip single note "pop"

with a stick drum kit its usall a single tap of the bass drum or a sing not tap on the percussion drum( not that i do stick drumming wel lol

[sharp kettle]

add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a hip pop hand drumbeat plays during the interludes
orginal line tryed

add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a boom bap hand drumbeat plays during the interludes

and add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a bap bap hand drumbeat plays during the interludes

which is basically how you would describe the rythms for 80's drumming but suno keep ad hip hop or pop music to the beat lol

[compact horizon]

I’m curious does support ever respond? I have been waiting 3 weeks and no reply about a billing issue

[sharp kettle]

@undone star i will make edits later but would this work well?

Genre: 1954, 1964, 1972, 1980. 2025 , rock and roll
Mood: danceable high energy and rhythmic
Key instruments: Hand drums, Bass Guitar, Acoustic Guitar.
Vocals: Instrumental (No Vocals), studio quality, clean
Production: Clean mix, crisp diction, studio quality, dry audio,
play in the style of a 1950s rock & roll pioneer, play in the sound of burning love.
add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a bap bap hand drumbeat plays during the interludes
Description: A pristine, studio-quality track, Drums and bass maintain a strong, driving danceable high energy rhythm throughout the song.
Use primarily D,G,A, major chords and b minor for an upbeat, arousing and seductive dance melody.

[undone star]

Can - but i don't see a reason why you are putting all the yearly descriptors under Genre. You're just confusing the model what you want 😄

It's like asking for a melancholic, happy, aggressive, mellow song 😄

sometimes less is more - just concentrate on what you think is important. you can always adjust after.

[sharp kettle]

because its an era piece and i am removing them in the edit so it would read like this the multi years are just for my music notes and i like you way of prompting best because i have autism. and the structured prompt fits more in tune with how i had the prompt written out dsuring the first 500 generations and fails

Genre: 1980's rock and roll, exotic dance, dance rock
Mood: danceable high energy and rhythmic
Key instruments: Hand drums, Bass Guitar, Acoustic Guitar.
Vocals: Instrumental (No Vocals), studio quality, clean
Production: Clean mix, crisp diction, studio quality, dry audio,
play in the style of a 1950s rock & roll pioneer, play in the sound of burning love.
add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a bap bap hand drumbeat plays during the interludes
Description: A pristine, studio-quality track, Drums and bass maintain a strong, driving danceable high energy rhythm throughout the song.
Use primarily D,G,A, major chords and b minor for an upbeat, arousing and seductive dance melody.

[neat nexus]

Why are you checking in for all those years? That's got to be causing issues too.

Using one year at the beginning of the style prompt seems to be great and narrowing down the production and sound of an era but throw too many in and I think you just get a mess, not Dani California....

[undone star]

So you want a 1980s rock and roll track but played in the style of 1950s? 😄

[neat nexus]

Have you tried it? I could be way off base. But that would be my honest expectation.

I'm kind of curious now...

[undone star]

Genre: 80s Rock & Roll, Dance Rock, Pop Rock
Mood: High Energy, Seductive, Driving, Upbeat
Instruments: Strummed Acoustic Guitar, Bass Guitar, Hand Drums, Congas, Standard Drum Kit
Vocals: Instrumental (No Vocals)
Production: Clean mix, close-mic'd, dry audio, pristine studio quality, minimal reverb
Description: A driving, major-key dance rock track featuring a tight rhythm section. Percussive hand drum patterns take the lead during interludes, backed by bright acoustic guitar strumming.

Neg.

distorted electric guitar, heavy metal, synthesizer, electronic drums, slow tempo, sad, melancholic, muddy mix, lo-fi, reverb-heavy

[sharp kettle]

rock and roll has all the same chords and notes, the 1980s did introduce 10 new founding rock and rollers who added a new way to compose the rock and roll sounds lol but they are primarily based of 1 of the 7 made it famous peoples lol so suno shouldn't get two confused lol

elvis and buddy holly being the bigf fat cat inspirers for the 80s

[undone star]

you misunderstand the LLM. You focus on a sound that sounds most like what you want. That's the goal. Telling someone to play a 1930s song but like its 1980s is confusing. You can focus on production changes or even on melodic choices - but different eras is just confusing.

[neat nexus]

Suno is not a wordprocessor for sound.

(Not yet at least?)

What we do is more akin to describing what we want and then nudging it iteratively until we feel we have arrived. It's more art than science.

[sharp kettle]

rock and roll is all about music fusions... the base era for it though will always be 1950's - about 1972 because that when the chords and notes for it were invented. if you ranted a hip hop rock and roll fusion you have to mix the 80s and 90s.

[undone star]

If you want music fusion you work with extensions and covers

It's way easier to get the sound of different eras if you mix prompt extensions compared to just trying to mix it in the main prompt and hope for the best.

[sharp kettle]

just like if you wanted to do dance rock fusion you have to do the 50s with the 80s when dance rock was big... if you wanted edm that is huge in the 90s.. boomp bop and edm fusion would be the 80s and 90s lol...

i have a baritone like elvis so depending on the song i'm doing hes a base for alot of the rock and roll fusions. But if im doing tenor im more like queen so i use that era bas for my hard/ soft rock fusions... and my beat break voice is actuall a mix of baritone and tenor. lol so when i make the music i usally sing in the rythm and melody i want... which suno says it can provide intstrumental cover for but i don't think its quite there yet in 5. you prompt style did help me hit and direct it to read my voice better though lol

[undone star]

well i wish you the best of luck 🙂

You can do as you wish. ^^

Just don't ask me again for some feedback when the idea is to generally debate me into agreeing with you - that's just hilarious 😄

[sharp kettle]

lol i already used your prompt styele edited
an it generated the exact beat i was looking for just not the song length lol so again i say thank you>>>

Genre: 1980's rock and roll, exotic dance, dance rock
Mood: danceable high energy and rhythmic
Key instruments: Hand drums, Bass Guitar, Acoustic Guitar.
Vocals: studio quality, clean
Production: Clean mix, crisp diction, studio quality, dry audio,
play in the style of a 1950s rock & roll pioneer, play in the sound of burning love.
add exotic dance hand drums rhythm and a bap bap hand drumbeat plays during the interludes
Description: A pristine, studio-quality track, Drums and bass maintain a strong, driving danceable high energy rhythm throughout the song.
Use primarily D,G,A, major chords and b minor for an upbeat, arousing and seductive dance melody.

haha

[sharp kettle]

while im taking notes in not pad auto overwrite keeps kickiing in and there like no instructions on how to turn it oof, im trying to edit suno prompts in my note pad lol

[maiden orchid]

can someone tell me how people are able to make videos with the whole image and the words on it instead of the small picture and words below it?

Does Suno do that or are people downloading and using Capcut?

[polar spade]

Programs such as Capcut. Live Titles and captions are not available in Suno.

The "video" which Suno generates to look at when we share "video " is what Suno uses to embed a means of reading through the scrolling lyrics like karaoke.

[fossil bridge]

I Dm'd you a template that might be able to pull off exactly what you're looking for

https://suno.com/s/lVfyZHJzVk5dI6cF

[round flare]

Is there any power users here who are extremely good with prompting

[gilded mist]

most of us here pretend to be extremely good with prompting while in actuality we all depend on the randomness of the seed generator.

[polar spade]

Not me, sorry. 😅 I tend to just get lucky on occassion.

[sharp kettle]

thanks if the improve the models i may have to use it but so far my new prompt layer was give me great results. my credits are a bit low so im gonna take a break till i can set up some new sing templates in audacy my old song files are all useless after that version 3 . something update i had song clips and now the new files have combined all the song clips so i have to resing almost my entire first album lol...

[polar spade]

But seriously. What's your question?

[round flare]

Well my specific question: is there a booklet in the wild of “best suno prompts to use for various styles” or smth like that?

Either suno engineers internally has tested or just power users who use suno to a crazy amount and gathered that intelligent from experience

[polar spade]

Youll likely get a better responses as well between 10am - 3pm, and 8pm-midnight EST. Busier times in here.

[round flare]

Sure, I’ll ask again tmro

[polar spade]

There are sites out there. Ive not looked in awhile. But they are mostly written around 3.5 and 4.0 versions. So while they are good learners to practice on. They are better as reminders. As in "Ahhhh i forgot about that prompts ". All I do it Google occassionally to find them again.

Honestly now, I just ask Grok. The AI stays current on most new information and knows of those prompt sites.

Eventually, id say the meta for 2026 is that a power user would have learned that its good to peruse a list, fun to experiment with them, and then just decides what direction theyre going and use AI to extrapolate a combination of prompting that have the more specific affects and most effective.

[polar spade]

Howtopromptsuno , I see is one to give a comprehensive overall suggestion for better prompting with some lists.

[polar spade]

Sunos own workflow channel has a couple of users with prompting suggestions. One happens to simply point to a site: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1441048817675010049

Its a good reader of tags and their application. A nice list.

[sharp kettle]

someone gave me this and i edited it but in v5 is by far the best prompt ive found , it only takes like 4-5 generations as long as you tag the lyrics layout... 5-10 if yah don't.. all the other take like 50 plus lol😁 💯 ❗ 🤬 🤖 🧠
Genre:( insert music genres here
Mood: danceable high energy and rhythmic( as example)
Key instruments: or Instruments: insert instruments here
Vocals: Instrumental (No Vocals) or studio quality, clean( vocals), you can also insert tonal type here
Production: Clean mix, crisp diction, studio quality, dry audio, (describe how you want the song played here)
tempo is 140 bpm
Description: A pristine, studio-quality track, your prompt of the type of track goes here)
driving danceable high energy rhythm track( example)

[viral flame]

Hello, how do I give the vocalist a break so he/she can catch a breath? [breath], (pause) ...?

[sharp kettle]

[Instrumental Intro}
[Verse 1] this is a reaaaaally loong aaaaaaahhhhhh soooooong
it taaakkes so maaaany breaths
[break]
[Bridge] warning this may change the tone of the song unless you [ rock rhythm} for example
[Chorus]
[Verse 2]
[Short Instrumental Outro]

or you can do this
[Instrumental Intro}
[Verse 1] this is a reaaaaally loong.
aaaaaaahhhhhh soooooong.
it taaakkes so maaaany breaths.
[Chorus]
[Instrumental Interlude: 30 seconds long]
[Bridge]
[Verse 2]
[Short Instrumental Outro]

i do recommend the second one because it gives the muscians a chance to shine it also allow a singer to prepare for the song in both LOL music that starts off witha singer right of is never as good when you dont have the
[Instrumental Intro: 15 seconds long]

unles you doing choir music thats a differnt lyrics layout

[onyx sparrow]

someone know what this is? digital glitch?

[outer thunder]

How can I access the stem packages again if the UI fails to update during separation and never takes me to them? The stems are there as new tracks, but I seem to only be able to download them one by one, which is a super tedious process.

[sleek stump]

Did you email [e-mail]? Or did you email [e-mail]? Support requests are backlogged 4+ weeks currently. Billing issues are generally handled within a week. In either case, you can go to https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1372994553233276970 and inquire. DAViD may be able to help expedite your issue.

[sleek stump]

Generally, you can add the following examples in between Verse/chorus sections... [Interlude] [Break] [Instrumental] to detail a few. They each have different things they do musically, and they should be placed in a specific section of the genre you are using.

[sleek stump]

Suno does not process time length, if you use [Instrumental Interlude: 30 seconds long] It will only do an Instrumental and it will use the commons of the genre and style you are using for the length of the section.

[neat nexus]

Feel free to check into any Suno prompting site, guides, HOWTOs you want. Just remember one thing:

Many of those were created by asking ChatGPT. Which is usually incorrect on how Suno actually works because it's literally just hallucinating the prompting it gives. (How often does it try to give [metatag] directives in (parenthesis) for example?)

So sure, take inspiration from where ever you find it. Just be willing to rewrite that inspiration on the fly, experiment, try out strange things to see if they work or not...

Suno is not (yet?) a wordprocessor for sound. It's more like sympathetic magic or alchemy. You nudge it towards the direction you want to go with your words in the lyrics and the style prompt fields.

Those nicely formatted text prompts with lots and lots of words are probably not doing what you think they are. (My own included.) So feel free to play with it and test things out. There's a reason why we get so many songs in the plans. It's the same reason you get two options every roll of the dice. Suno is iterative. YOU make the decisions that move it forward.

[quiet solar]

I'd echo Hepcat's point about prompting sites.

They can be very useful for inspiration, or for clarifying musical terms that you might not be familiar with. And speaking to Suno in musical terms can be quite effective in getting your requests across. However, the sites sort-of imply that if you word a prompt in a specific way then Suno will definitely respond to it - which isn't quite how the model actually works.

They will also confidently say that you can prompt for things like length of song or chord progressions which those familiar with Suno will know is not actually something you can do with any degree of reliability at all.

The search for a dictionary of approved Suno prompts is a bit like the search for the Holy Grail. What you're looking for may not actually exist, but there's a lot you can learn on the journey nonetheless.

[placid aspen]

Hi. Bit of a longshot, I know, but are there any programs out there (or rumoured to be in development) which actually create songs from the get-go using fully fledged actual stems, rather than creating songs which sound great as a whole, but are a composite of an unholy mess when examined stem-by-stem?

[raw oasis]

would love that. I am imagining a LLM that builds models based on Sampled virtual instruments and music theory, but I do not search around much.. still getting my Dopamine hits here 😆

[placid aspen]

The problem with Sunos stems is that they are (mostly) a complete mess, so when you want to isolate them and then replace them....well, as the old joke goes "if I was you I wouldn't start from here"!

[raw oasis]

Gotta tell ya though I have leveled up 15x since starting to Mix stems in my DAW, learned about eq'ing, limiters, compressors, fades, high-cuts, low-cuts....

and especially!!! MUTE... get that track/stem outta here! 😆

[agile thicket]

is it normal my stems are not loading? Its been detecting for 20 mins now

[raw oasis]

But seriously yes.. seems counter productive for Suno to gen the song, then figure out how to stem it out.

[raw oasis]

Have you checked your filter settings, unhide stems?

[agile thicket]

yep i did everything turned off hide stems, changed browser, refreshed and still nothing

its most likely a glitch im guessing

[raw oasis]

If you try to get stems again there should be a link underneath this UI area that shows existing stems.

if you dont see that, then could have glitched yeah.

[agile thicket]

i do have it, but when i click on it still says extracting stems

and its been like this for nearly half an hour

[half dragon]

Exit and try to view them again.

[agile thicket]

unfortunattly still nothing

[jovial tiger]

Hi guys. I downloaded the midi files of my song. on suno. but the midi and all of the instruments are somehow compacted. meaning its not the whole song...like in timings. Its kind of weird. its the full song but in less time....I think this is a error or something. can you guys help me out

I fixed the issue. you have to do File > Import > Midi File. Then its gonna be imported corretly. Do not drag and drop it

[outer thunder]

thank you! Unfortunately, it must've failed more than i imagined, because i can't see this on the original track at all 🙁

[half dragon]

If that's the case, I hope you didn't get charged for it.

[outer thunder]

I did. And it did the separation, i have all the tracks, just have to download them one by one, which is not exactly ideal 😄

[half dragon]

Do you have Studio access?

You can download them all at once in there as well.

[raw oasis]

Is it possible your DAW song just needs a tempo set?

[polar spade]

While waiting always check your library to see if they are already there (remember to click off Hide Stems in thr filter settings.)

[queen linden]

I'm having an issue getting songs to be as long as they should be. my last instrumental was 1:22 seconds using extend doesn't really do anything for me lately .... trying to get a nice haunting Christmas instrumental. open to suggestions

[neat nexus]

Add text to the lyrics prompt?

Make sure you include descriptive [metatags] describing the sound you want and add line breaks to show more time is there. Maybe use (...) as a way to break that space up?

[polar spade]

For what its worth, cellos seem to go longer on interludes and those sound good for haunting winter songs , and BTW way, use [interlude] when possible, seems to do OK.

[sleek stump]

I get full length instrumental by using symbols and dots in the lyrics section. Usually, the more I add between section tags the longer the track ends up(though not always, genre has a lot to do with possible length).

[queen linden]

I forgot about using interlude... going to try all the above! Thanks 😊

[raven crystal]

Does Suno have a public API (which I could use to interact with programmatically)? Searching online found a website that seems to related, but it doesn't actually claim to have any official relationship with suno.com as far as I can tell.

[flint haven]

Beware: there is NO official Suno API

🚨 Suno does not have a public API. Any claims otherwise are unauthorized.

[hard beacon]

i think it time for a lawsuit for that 3rd party page 😉

[raven crystal]

FYI, I would gladly pay for official API and comfyui plugin.

[flint haven]

Beware: there is NO official Suno API

🚨 Suno does not have a public API. Any claims otherwise are unauthorized.

[buoyant shell]

I was on the free site and upgraded and paid for the proplan. It hasnt change. Whats the problem?

[autumn rock]

Go to Get Stems dialog again.
Then under the "All Detected Stems" (for example) there should be a "Extract Again" and UNDER THAT > See Extracted Stems.

[sharp kettle]

i combine that tag with an audio file so when suno ai reads the audio it there is already a break in the song.
it misses my 1-2 seconds usally unless it completly goes of the rails or the audio file read fails...

that is what rythmic or melody singing is all about. i use a technique old as can be that is used so musicians can create a rythm and melody track after asinger records. ai and most programmers of ai have trouble with this practice because it not used as much today has it was in the 80s. so i still have to prompt the ai in the direction.

so even if the ai is skiping the time tag its stil reading it, and when it paired with the time break in the audio
and production read notes it should be learning how to propely instrument break for my music...
so far it does a pretty good job of geting close to the audio file length and breaks...

[graceful condor]

Question? Do I get my credit the day I subscribed? Not every first of the month?

[forest hemlock]

The day you subscribed

[graceful condor]

@forest hemlock ok, ty

[naive salmon]

hoping the v6, suno can repair the audio quality in stem separation
it feels like 128kbps after the split XD

[pure panther]

Try the openVINO plugin for audacity, It's only 4 stems max, but I find it sounds better overall. Plus you save 50 credits

[naive salmon]

will try, appreciated the info

[polar path]

I want to Refund Request for Incorrect Charge – Invoice F8393695-0002

[quick wedge]

You would need to send them an email [e-mail]
this shows how to create your ticket https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1373016771103166575
also you posted in the wrong channel

[polar path]

@quick wedgeSupport not reply by mail

Why support not working fast

[quick wedge]

Check ticket help channel I replied to you there.
Next time try not to spam the channels.

[polar path]

@quick wedgeOk thanks

[hollow hare]

This is the reason why it is taking so long #archived-ticket-help message

TL;DR: Due to bugs at 5.0 & Studio release, the AWS downtime, and people keep constantly emailing and not waiting patiently, caused a HUGE backlog that is still taking quite some time to work through

Recent trouble with Black Friday deals doesn't help either

[neat nexus]

Also this is not a tech support channel, this is a channel for prompting advice and sharing.

#archived-ticket-help is where people having account issues need to post.

[untold briar]

Music "tech" generally (mixing, DAWs, etc) is still on topic, just trying to avoid using this channel for general tech/suno support.

[polar spade]

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[brittle socket]

I recommend a wetnap

Next!

[polar spade]

Thannnnnnnkssssss

[polar spade]

Hey. Worked like a charm. Long az I not yuze a word with a .....well with 1 of them two lettersssssss...... awwww dammit!

[still prairie]

Hope this is the right spot for this, but trying to get 'Duets' to work in v5 but so far its struggling to recognizing the difference between male vocal and female parts. For example Verse 1 is male but in parts the female takes over, then when harmonizing both it rather do 1 or the other, and when i try adding 'female:<text>' it still try's to do either-or, not the tag has duet and I've even tried layered duet as some in past said to try.

[celest solstice]

Is there a good place to or read about sun. No prompt and how to use it better

[untold briar]

A good general manual or guide? The closest are probably some decent YouTube tutorials. Or just reading in this Discord. A lot of the prompting guides have some good examples, but also a lot of weird myths about the best way do things.

[half dragon]

I recently got more success with duet on v5 than ever before as it's known to be a challenge on all models. Not sure if it'd work well for anyone else but see if this helps you.

While it's not 100% but my last song it's almost 90% of success which was much better than my attampts before.

First in the style I have "male and female sings in every other line" - acts as a re-enforcer but I found it's still working without it - maybe a bit less success

Then in lyric, make sure there's an empty line between the vocal switch. I don't use [Verse] tags just used gender directly.

[Male]
...
...

[Female]
...
...

Again, I might have got lucky but almost every generations I did on that song came out exactly how I set it... there are a few gens that it got bit messed up but not as much as before.

Still can't control both at the same time for harmony but some gens did it automatically.

See if you can try?

[half dragon]

Also check out #1252267444773326848 - others have shared a lot there - might pick up a thing or two useful, including prompts and workflows.

[velvet loom]

Ok

[quiet solar]

Search for any combination of 'male female vocals' or 'duet' in this channel and you should quite quickly get the best available prompting advice. This question comes up pretty much every day.

However, it's not really something you can reliably prompt for at the moment. How duets are handled varies by a lot by genre, Suno's own decisions on interpretation, and the fact that not every prompt you give is picked up and prioritised by the AI during creation.

Getting a song 100% right on prompts alone is almost in the realms of blind luck. To actually produce a duet as you originally conceived it is almost certainly going to involve workarounds inside or outside of Suno.

[still prairie]

It still seems to want to split each line between the 2. Trouble im noticing is if i want 1 verse to be male then going into say pre-chorus having each line split (this parts fine), the verse 1 still wants to split the lines between both and no matter how i reword it duet still focus on that concept. If it was a solo artist singing it, the prompt can easily handle it but 2 voices in 1 song it struggles (if V6 ever gets released i hope this is a major feature to this :P).

Even with [male]/[female] it still wont recognize this shown here - https://suno.com/s/KtucIAcYKCvFYaYc
i may switch the [] to maybe trying () see if that do it, and yes i have tried without any and it still likes to flip vocals.

[eternal wyvern]

I'm trying to use a persona from my original song to make a better version of the song, but i struggle to make it stop involving the lead singer in certain parts like Verses 1 and 2 as i want him to only sing specific parts

[No Lead, No Male Solo Vocal, Choir Only, Chanting] - not working
[Dark Choir, Chanting, No Lead] - not working
[Choir Only, Chanting] - not working

at this point i'm just wasting my credits away, idk how to make it work

[raw oasis]

one of the pain points of Suno.

[wise tendon]

Have you tried using studio?

[weary umbra]

hey yall any ideas how i could prompt a song to NOT have drums? like i’m literally SAYING no drums or percussion but shes stubborn

[eternal wyvern]

don't have it, i use Pro, so only the editor is available and even with that I'm not experienced as I'm new to this

I'm giving up for now, just throwing my credits away as Suno is literally just generate same thing over and over even though i change the meta tags

[dapper maple]

How does Suno save lyrics prompts? I see it has a save prompt button, but I don't see a corresponding library button for it like styles do.

[half dragon]

Lyrics are saved on the songs themselves, no other way that I know of.

[sleek stump]

This has been historically difficult, not impossible though. First and foremost, look at the genre you are prompting.. if it traditionally has drums in it, in pretty much every song Suno was trained on, getting drums out of your gen will be very difficult. Secondly, make sure you describe the track using the instruments you want in it, do NOT say you dont want drums in here. Anything you put in the styles window is something you WANT. To reinforce, use teh Exclude section under Advanced Options and enter simple direct things you prefer not to have. Examples would be; Drums, Percussion, Drum Kit, Hand Drum.
Even with that, if the genre you are asking for is dominated by drums, it may be impossible to get rid of them without splitting stems and then remixing the stems without the drums and percussion stems.

[sleek stump]

Additionally, adjusting teh genre/style could be done to exclude certain instruments. I have done fully acoustic guitar tracks and what it took was to describe a solo acoustic folk song.

[polar spade]

First, I'm not factoring in how many credits is used. Im just assuming most arent going to use Studio that solves many of the limits of Pro.

1. Try the tags before the verses as single prompts. Each describing the one before, not as a group concept.

So it would be [choir] (chanting) instead of [choir, chanting]

2. the words "no" and "only" likely are not prioritized much. In "no lead" youve already asked it to give weight to the prompt "lead" which then subsequently becomes its focus. "NO" , even if attempting to prioritize it, then comes off more of a suggestion, and ignored.

If this were not the case, Suno would not have spent months on an algorhythm to create an "exclude" windows to do what we had thought the word "no" alone should do.

If you haven't found it, the exclude window is in the Advance box below Styles. In your case, use extension and exclude to target each verse.

3. use extensions and build the song rather than rely on prompts throughout to generate one song in one click. Or if preferred.... generate the whole song and the use Replace in the Edit UI with specific prompts and excludes to target each verse.

[eternal wyvern]

I'm aware of exclude feature but that excludes for the entire song if i understand it correctly, so that is completely different

[polar spade]

See number 3

[eternal wyvern]

i will try the 1 tips [] () part

what are extensions?

[polar spade]

See #2 " . . . In your case, use extension and exclude to target each verse. .... "

[polar spade]

We can pick a spot in a song and "extend" from it. It reaches back and get the vibe of the song and extends or continues the song. Bit by bit. https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2409601

• So I can just put [intro] and the first verse of a song, generate it.
• Click the menu of that output , choose edit/ extend-- pick a timemark about a second from the ending of that first part, add a second verse in the lyric box with some prompts and style to guide it, and click extend.
• It will attempt to add verse 2, similar vibe as verse 1. It will name that output Part 2.
• Then I click in the Part 2 menu, Create and Get Whole Song and it will fix Part 2 to the part 1 and have a full output.
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[polar spade]

Good or bad, when new users go straight to Pro and arent forced to learn some foundations of Basic, they are essentially learning how to use Suno backwards and yes, will burn through credits. At the same time, Basic is seriously limited but only having 50 credits to begin with.

In the end, its maybe better to get Pro first and then, as youre doing, just burn the first many credits and first month just learning what all the tools do. No different than anything else.

Do both simultaneously. Buy extra credits up front , then the first month have fun randomly trying stuff and also systematically learning the foundations. Both with no concern of how many credits are burned.

[eternal wyvern]

if i may, I'm curious about your feedback about my earlier work

https://suno.com/s/Quw4M6ppFg2lXn0p

[polar spade]

Well, first congrats you got an output that went 6:25 on a first run. Most would kill for it to do somewhere in their first 10 outputs.

[eternal wyvern]

Lyrics can be bit odd as the songs i aim to make are for worldbuilding (The Rameis Chronicles)

[quiet solar]

If you're going for a call and response style duet, this is really solid advice. Suno does seem a little bit more receptive / less objectionable to replicating call and response either as a specific section or across the whole song.

However, if you're looking for call and response in one specific section I'd personally keep it out of the overall style tag and only include it in the lyrics section. And if you're not looking for a call and response duet, you really don't that prompt in your style tag either!

[quiet solar]

What you're trying to do with having the choir itself be the lead for certain sections of the song is VERY tricky in the current Suno models.

It is possible to prompt for a choir, and Choir/Choral/Chanting/Gregorian are all potentially useful. However, Suno does have a tendency to lean towards wanting to introduce a lead soloist, and you'll most likely have to build up the song starting with a section that gets it correct with the choir and then extending from it multiple times to keep the choir and not letting the soloist get a word in edgeways.

It's then a lot easier to come back and add the soloist in afterwards via vocal stems in Suno Studio or an external editor, where it would be next to impossible to generate it just using prompts.

Other than that, I'd echo Dasvon's advice. Suno is much more receptive to being told what you want it to do, and tends to skip over variations on telling it what you don't want it to do.

[eternal wyvern]

so i should ideally change the order of the lyrics for it work in my favour?

[quiet solar]

Ultimately it's your song, so that's a creative call. But switching between choir and soloist is always going to be very tricky to control.

Of the two, getting the choir to work correctly is definitely the harder of the two, so I'd personally be looking to work with any generation which that gets that part right as a starting point. It's much easier to crowbar in the soloist afterwards using editing tools.

[eternal wyvern]

thanks 😄

[polar spade]

I was caught first by the Irish feel of it coming as a fan of a more new age Irish pop band Clannad, as you say, a female lead vocal and choir chorus. But yes, a building epic story and emotional arc going throughout was very nice.

As a song itself, it would be a familiar theme with gamers and world builders so it fit right in that groove.

I read through the lyrics before playing. Youve put a tremendous effort in creating a story of prophecy and of a healer or Listener.

The cons may be it Bard Ballad length and use of his and her pronouns often can be difficult for others to maintain a grasp of any story or legends, but it is more a tribute than a story as it were.

Its your creation and thats makes it brilliant already. And I enjoyed listening to it as a fan of that old world tribal music vibe.

Well done.

[eternal wyvern]

Editing seems a bit overwhelming, i had a look at the Editor and I feel like i have no idea how to start. i did check out some videos, especially the part about replacing and fixing lyrics in an existing song

[polar spade]

Cool. Glad you caught a couple of videos as well. We all are starting out on the same level, so yea, just try one thing at time and see what it does in the editing and such. Then just pop back here in the rooms and back scroll to see what is talked about , to maybe pick up some pointers before asking "how to" . Good luck.

[eternal wyvern]

i was worried about the length as well, but I needed the song to cover the legend of the Listener, and it came out so well that i didn't want to ruin it by trying to shorten it hahaha.
and about her/him part, there's only two Key Characters (The Listener and The Girl (unnamed so far in my lore as it is ancient lore going back 3000+ years))

i mean the girl is unnamed, The Listener has a name, but since I use his name as my username (adopted it many years ago AFTER creating him when i was writing original drafts), i often refer to him as The Listener

also, AI sometimes mispronounces the name lmao

[quiet solar]

So the standard and legacy Suno editors in Pro aren't going to be up to the task of vocal stem replacement. For that, you need either Suno Studio or an external DAW or audio editor like Audacity. This is a few steps up from entry-level working with Suno to create a song. xD

I'm not sure exactly what you're going for, but I'm just pulling out the style and lyric prompts I used in creating the first version of a song which blended a choir with a female lead, in case it's of any help. The original concept was to restrict the lead only to a single section of the song, but I quite liked how Suno blended the lead throughout, so didn't try to fix it:

Style prompt: An epic cinematic battle anthem with orchestral elements supported by electric guitars and bass. Vocals are softly chanted by a choir, remaining in the background of the song with the exception of the chorus. The Bridge is sung by a female contralto soloist.

[Chant Intro]
[Verse 1 - Soft background chanting]
[Chorus - louder choral chanting]
[Bridge - Female contralto singing, haunting]

[eternal wyvern]

is the Studio worth paying? I've already paid for Pro for entire year, so idk if its worth switching

[polar spade]

Just remember, this story is in your head so youre already seeing the movie. The listener has to follow along and cant ( or shouldnt) rewind the song nor read the lyrics to recall who is doing what. So overall, its more entertaining and emotionally impacting than to thinking what the lyrics all mean. Ill buy tickets to the movie to find that out later.

[eternal wyvern]

essentially you can listen to the original song, i want to keep the style, voice etc, only wanted to change that the solo singer starts later and covers different parts compared to the original, at least some parts, but otherwise the original song is already pretty good in my opinion

dude's the villain

[eternal wyvern]

oh don't worry, I won't be changing the Listener song, i like it as it is. only wanted to work on The Masked Master, but i might leave that for another day. for now i'm focusing on gathering all my lore into more neat and organised way, using google's NotebookLM

[polar spade]

Right. My feedback is assuming the song is done. Just thoughts for your next one.

[quiet solar]

@eternal wyvern I'm not really the right person to ask, since I've been using Audacity for a long time, which has many of the same essential features. The big advantage to Studio compared to the standard editor is that you can pull in and combine elements of different song generations across your Suno Library, and work with editing them at stem level. In the future, once it gets better at regenerating specific stems, that's going to open up a lot of opportunities.

Whether Studio makes sense depends how much you want to keep all of your editing work in the Suno ecosystem (you can't publish things in Suno once you take it outside for editing, and if it's in Suno you don't have to download all the different bits first), and whether you'd prefer an editor with the slightly more friendly Suno user interface. And, of course, whether the price tag of Studio versus free alternatives like Audacity makes a difference to you.

[eternal wyvern]

you might like the songs about the Wardens (aka The Silver Mantles) of the Order of Aetheric Containment & Regulation

[molten jay]

In the negative prompt section, I wrote down all the things I didn't want, and Suno created music based on exactly those negative elements.

[eternal wyvern]

based Suno

[polar spade]

Yea. This is not a channel to showcase songs. One is often respected as a welcomed courtesy. Pull back a bit on the links, my friend.

[eternal wyvern]

I might check out Audacity 🤔

[eternal wyvern]

yeah, if it wouldn't have 6 hrs lock lmao

might as well just go for DMs at that point

[polar spade]

Better than a 24 hour ban. 🤷

[eternal wyvern]

could be 1 hr instead of 6 though

[green pike]

sir would you mind telling me what are you trying to accomplish BAHAHAHA lowkey curious

[quiet solar]

@eternal wyvern Yeah, that's a pretty solid version. I'd personally be inclined to compromise and say "Yeah, this is good enough, we're done."

Otherwise you're really looking at creating alternative versions based on redoing specific sections (e.g. using Extend) and prompting them specifically to do what you originally intended, then having to edit them back in over the original instrumental. This is likely to be several hours' worth of work.

[eternal wyvern]

i know 🙁

[molten jay]

As other people on Suno, i am generating music

[quiet solar]

The negative prompt section is a bit ornery to say the least. It tends to work better with prompting genres to avoid, rather than specific musical elements (e.g. Female Vocalist, Drums). Indeed, you're not the first to find out you've put "Female Vocalist" in exclude only to find Suno prioritising including a female singer.

[molten jay]

I wanna expand a Music i spent maybe 400 credits, but i wasn't success 🙁

[quiet solar]

AIs in general struggle a bit with negative prompting, and Suno is definitely among them. You're almost always better off telling it what you do want in sufficient detail and with sufficient style prompt weight and low weirdness that it doesn't get too creative with its interpretations, as opposed to trying to tell it what you don't want.

[molten jay]

My main music vocalist is male, now i wanna expand it, some time gives male with wrong style, some time gives male and femele, some time just female ....

[eternal wyvern]

maybe create a persona of the vocalist, idk

[molten jay]

I did that too

[green pike]

bruh

[quiet solar]

And it does that consistently if you Extend from the song, say, two thirds of the way through with all the same style prompts and with Suno set to 'Male Singer'?

Ah hang on, I've just re-read how you phrased that.

Are you trying to bring the vocalist from one song over into multiple other new songs?

[molten jay]

no, everytime change vocalists and even sometime styles too!

[quiet solar]

Is that what Suno is doing (and you don't want it to), or what you're trying to do but are struggling to do?

Please remember we're not psychic - the more you can tell us about the actual problem, the easier it is to help. xD

[molten jay]

no, i wanna my main music vocalist that is a man, keep singing some thing at the end of my music

[quiet solar]

And how are you going about that currently? I presume using Extend from right at the end of the song with all of the other settings unchanged?

[molten jay]

I did what AI (Gemini) told me , new style, new short lyric, new negative prompt

[neat nexus]

Gemini hallucinates.

Use its output as inspiration but don't take it as gospel.

[quiet solar]

Dagnabbit, Gemini...

Your workflow should be something like this:

1. Take the song you want to work with, and under Remix/Edit in the Library, select Extend.

2. Pick a point a little before the song currently ends - good points tend to be just after or near the end of a very recognisable segment in the song, like a chorus. Trying to extend a song from after it's finish point often gives weird and wacky outcomes.

3. All of your current style prompts should be automatically loaded in, as well as your current song as an audio prompt. You don't need to touch ANYTHING unless you specifically want to prompt for something different in the extension to what you had before.

4. If you want to try to maintain as much continuity as possible from the original, set your audio influence to somewhere in the 50%-80% range (you may need to experiment to find the sweet spot), keep weirdness low (<20%) and the style prompt wherever you previously had it or low (<20%).

5. Add in the new lyrics, and only the new lyrics, to the lyrics prompt - unless you're extending with e.g. a line still to go in the chorus, in which case include that too.

[neat nexus]

That's good advice.

[molten jay]

I have a sad Music, but end of music is like unfinished, I want to add some AAA AAA something like this to show sadness more, main vocalist is Man, but in the extend sometime woman singing, also i say in the prompt please i don't want tempo, Fast beat just this. Ok thank you for explaining, i am going to try more.

[quiet solar]

You can try adding [melancholy] or [sad, depressive] in the lyrics box prompt just ahead of the new section you're adding to influence the tone.

Similarly, you can add [soft] or [slow tempo] in the lyrics to try to steer Suno away from doing a rapid tempo extension - although you might need a few tries, as you might find you're battling against Suno's library of music where most songs end on a higher tempo / bigger finish rather than a slower, more sad note.

Avoid trying to tell Suno what you don't want. More often than not it'll misunderstand and think that's what you're asking it to do - focus on telling it what you do want.

[solid owl]

I have a question. If I upload a beat, is there a way to create new beats using the style of the uploaded one?

[neat nexus]

With Covers or by making a Persona?

...maybe.

[quiet solar]

As in, creating just a beat track using your upload as inspiration for general style?

If so, not directly. You can try using it in create as an audio influence and going for an instrumental only, with prompts just for the instruments you're using and with audio influence turned down very low (e.g. <15%) and possibly cranking weirdness up to the mid-range (40% - 60%) and seeing where that gets you.

However, expect it to take multiple tries and maybe not be successful. Suno tries to create full songs rather than specific sections of songs in isolation.

[polar spade]

You can copy the output/cover of your upload and extend off the new copy. Thats an easy way.

[solid owl]

No like put a beat and copy the Style?

No cover but new best with influence of the first beat. It’s possible?

[polar spade]

Copy the beat to a new output.
Extend and add styles.

[solid owl]

But I don’t have prompt

If I extend the beat I will get a prompt form suno?

[polar spade]

I said output as well, whichever gets you the best emulation of the beat. That part is your choice. Crop/cover/cut-paste/duplicate. Pick one.

[polar spade]

When you uploaded, suno described your upload. Copy that description and paste back into styles if you wish. Thats your prompt.

Sorry, I would do a demo video, but im prepping for snow at the moment.

[solid owl]

so by loading the best sound it will analyze it and create a prompt based on that beat?

[solid owl]

Ok now I understand 💪🏻

[quiet solar]

No, not quite. The beat you uploaded will have a style description added by Suno, which you can re-use.

[solid owl]

Tank you 🙂

[solid owl]

Ok perfect

[oblique dove]

Has anyone else had trouble with parentheses lately? It used to do all my text in () as ad libs or call outs, and now its not even singing them.

[stiff blaze]

Suno lowered insong control in v5 try [...]

[oblique dove]

I use [...] to separate out my verse and chorus, will that still work if I use something like

[Verse 1]
lyrics
lyrics
lyrics
lyrics

[Callout]
[Woooo!]

[stiff blaze]

Try. I don't think so maybe, call outs and so () more for them.

[...] are more for "the way how it sound"

[keen iris]

Hello, I have a question:
Why Persona can't be made from remastered track?
I'm on Pro, I can create Persona from the original track, but it was edited in Editor, so there is some bad parts in it, so I remastered it and now have a track I want and want to maked Persona from it, but Persona button is gray and in Persona menu system gives me an "A Persona cannot be created from this clip" massage.
What can I do?

[stiff blaze]

Try work with inspo option when creating.
Make Playlist with the song and refer it

[stiff blaze]

I find persona less useful since it only created by one track

[keen iris]

It's actually a great idea, thank you

[keen iris]

There is one problem, the Inspo feuture unavailable when I making Cover 🥺

[remote void]

Hi Team, i paid for pro plan but still i cant use any pro plan feature .. what is this ? I paid for 1 year plan

[stiff blaze]

Have you tried to place the persona's main song style as the cover style?

[remote void]

I was already on monthly pro plan which will be there till 11 dec, i purchased 1 year plan 2 day back but all of sudden my pro feature all gone , i dropped email to billing and support team , but no response …

[polar spade]

Yea, that would be same as running two covers at the same time.

Inspo is basically a cover of the prompts formed from analyzing the four inspo songs.

[polar spade]

If youre outside of the USA thers a delay to validate payment from any fraud attempts before post ti Suno. That could be one reason.

[remote void]

i was already on Pro plan , what about that , even i lost that too.. not able to create any music using v5

[polar spade]

It may be a different issue then , if you never canceled, but just clicked upgrade about mid-month and used the same payment source as was the auto-pay.

[remote void]

i paid through card

[keen iris]

Yes, but it's not gave me needed result, I want to cover track with melody and lyrics of the original track but with instruments, vocal and style of another one

[polar spade]

I dont know what that means. Did you NOT change the payment source already authorized in the autopay, and/or you used a new payment source (that would trigger a new standard/required review by the banks) .

[keen iris]

So Is there a whay to create Persona from Remastered track?

[polar spade]

I have not checked in awhile. Thought we could . Let me see.

[remote void]

I used new payment source, paid through Visa Debit Card

[polar spade]

Straight off a Remaster, its greyed out for me.

[keen iris]

Same

[polar spade]

If youre outside of the USA theres a delay to validate A NEW payment from any fraud attempts before post to Suno. That could be one reason. About 3 to 5 banking days (no weekends) . With holidays, it seemingly stretching to the 5 banking days mark.

Unrelated to suno , but yesterday a user noted their ID was stolen and 3 different charges were made on their account the same day. Bank issued him a new card. So these security checks by our banks are welcomed , to me.

[remote void]

Payment done on 2nd december

Thing is my old plan was valid till 11 dec atleast that one should be there so that i can continue creating some music . Thats more frustating

[polar spade]

@remote void Back it up from midnight Tuesday, and count, 5 days thats Tuesday 9th. If not active by 8pm EST, December 9th , then pop in the ticket-help room and note its been 5 days, to have them check. Otherwise they wouldnt know either if its still floating.

[remote void]

Okay sure then will wait till 9th otherwise i will ping in the group.. thanks dude

[polar spade]

Its the very same with dozens others just this week. Sorry for the delay, but its not a Suno issue. Just the banks. This time of year especially. And if you're lucky maybe midnight tonight EST or Monday, it may post. 🤞

[quiet solar]

It depends a bit on genre, but if there's too much going on in the line, Suno will drop the parenthesis if it 'needs' to in order to keep the cadence and flow of the song - in the opposite way it will sometimes secretly insert echoed lines from the backing singer even if you don't ask for them if the line has the space for it.

There's also a certain degree of randomness to how Suno treats any stylistic instructions, but I haven't noticed v5 being weird with it personally - your experience of course may massively vary. If you haven't already, and you can, try it on a different model and see if that makes any difference.

[sinful fjord]

Hi everyone, is there a way to stop vibrato from generating when prompting for edm genres? I cant seem to generate any song without it.

[modern dragon]

Hi, I have pro subscription and wonder how do I adjust the reverb on vocals? I think the vocal has too much reverb. Is there a way to exclude reverb and delay?

[neat nexus]

You can try adding reverb to the negative prompt, you may be better off trying to prompt around it by describing the type of sound you want. Negative prompting (for any AI) is kind of a blind alley--telling it not to do something makes it seem to focus on doing it all the more.

The negative prompt field is in the Advance section.

[modern dragon]

Thanks, but I tried to type 'reverb' 'delay' in the negative promt or in Exclude styles, but it didnt work

Any idea how to exclude it?

[unkempt shale]

Anyone have a prompt that will do Bass and drums ONLY? I don't want guitar, keyboard, or anything else.

[limber terrace]

I'm having the devil of a time trying to get [melodic long interlude] to be processed is there another command that its more likely to obey ?

[pure panther]

I see the channel's name was changed, I wonder if it will help with the flood of CS requests 😂

[velvet thicket]

Did you try to rule it out in the prompt? "no other instruments"

[half dragon]

Maybe something like...
"A minimal track in A minor, driven solely by live acoustic upright bass and crisp, intimate drums—brushes on snare and subtle kick, The female vocal floats dynamically above, expressive and velvety, building tension then resolving with nuanced phrasing and warmth"

[half dragon]

Maybe you could stack them? it might be able to gen a longer interlude but might also depends on the genre I'd imagine..

[Melodic interlude]
[Melodic interlude]
[Melodic interlude]
...
[Melodic interlude]

[sleek stump]

Maybe, but likely not really 😉

[pure panther]

So... any way to spend one credit to get the free 50's to kick in? 😂

Oh, nvm 😄

[sleek stump]

Have you tried adding symbols and dots in lyrics (after the break)? Something like:

[Interlude]
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣤⢔⣒⠂⣀⣀⣤⣄⣀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⠋⢠⣟⡼⣷⠼⣎⣼⢇⣿⣄⠱⣄
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣿⡀⣆⠙⠢⠐⠉⠉⣴⣾⣽⢟⡰⠃
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣦⠀⠤⢴⣿⠿⢋⣴⡏⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡙⠻⣿⣶⣦⣭⣉⠁⣿⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣷⠀⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⠇⡟

[Verse x]

I have 2 entire instrumental albums built on this process.

Something to note though, I have better success in v4.5+ than v5. What I have done is gen in 4.5+ then cover in v5.

[limber terrace]

There have been a few Covers where [melodic long interlude] was actioned but the majority of time its ignored.

[regal echo]

for me [instrumental break] and [instrumental interlude] work perfectly

[sleek stump]

It really depends on the genre/sub genre that determines how long they are.

[regal echo]

ive found that if you use instrumental, itll br long, and interlude is shorter

so it might be your word choice?

[sleek stump]

Not really. Instrumental, interlude, Break, Solo, they all do different things when they are in teh correct place in a track, and that is determined by the genre. Say for instance, most Pop music has relatively short instrumental breaks, while electronic and classical genres have relatively long ones.

[half dragon]

At one time, I really wanted to create that Hotel California solo, not literally, just length and quality 🙂

[sleek stump]

Careful, They may sue you for just trying to match the length or vibe 😉

Eagles are notorious.

[crisp epoch]

https://suno.com/@nordicdepression

[tired forge]

Was this once the tech channel?

[pine ibex]

No

[tired forge]

I'm lost then. Apologies

[neat nexus]

It was renamed.

[tired forge]

Okay. So do I get to ask tech questions here or do I go elsewhere?

[neat nexus]

If by tech you mean things like DAWs then sure. If by tech you mean account issues or billing issues I invite you to post in #archived-ticket-help after following #support-guide

[simple void]

Does anyone have a template for a “best” format for Suno Style prompts? I.e. using [] or () or organization of prompt?

[maiden portal]

This is giving me the best songs ever.

[pure panther]

I happen to be that girlfriend (now wifey 😂)

[simple void]

🎉 congratulations

[pure panther]

Thank you! ^^ Also, can confirm, the songs are bangers!

[simple void]

You may enjoy this project I’m working on, I like your “Redeemer Rhythms” title 🫡

https://suno.com/playlist/edee8b2c-73cc-43d0-9e88-38d918542b3b

[pure panther]

I just gave you a follow on Suno.

[pure panther]

Here's my first playlist https://suno.com/playlist/cdad1f8c-cefb-4f34-bf9f-215b2a8361e7

[simple void]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I’ll check it out! Mostly put my series on my YouTube channel under the same name.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgFcJ-osmF4rmhqcAalEYhFXsZ-e7FePr&si=VTzcjKrCqr_60ant

[thorny shuttle]

recreate the section in studio and add the peramitors of what you like, or a trick i like to do, copy paste a section over the top and get it to regenerate that section again

[hollow topaz]

Quick question for Suno prompt devs:
What’s your best trick to avoid the “wall of sound” effect?
I’m trying to get cleaner generations with more space and breathing room.

[onyx sparrow]

guys how i get my song from the libery to the playlist?

nvm i have it

[tight spade]

[Short pause]

[hollow topaz]

Interesting — do you actually use cues like “short pause” in the prompt to reduce density or reset the texture?
Do you get consistent results with that?

[tight spade]

Try it out

[viral flame]

Hello, Are there any elongated words for R&B that works good in Suno v5?

[quiet solar]

I'd suggest following the advice in the second half of Hepcat's response.

Rather than trying to find a prompt to exclude something (which Suno struggles with as a general rule), describe what you are looking for rather than what you're not. So for example, adding something like "The vocal delivery is clear with a natural sound and minimal production elements".

[quiet solar]

Both work equally well as long as you use them consistently, as Suno is able to do a certain level of interpretation on what you put in.

That said, as a general rule I would personally recommend using [] for prompts as () can also be used to indicate backing vocals in standard lyric notation. Consider it a good habit to get into in case you ever want to call on backing singers in future.

Outside of that, anything you put within prompt marks will/may be used by Suno to look up in its learned library of music and try to influence the song in the way you want. Prompts that are easily referenced against musical terms can be more reliable, but ultimately feel free to experiment - there is no right or wrong way to feed additional prompting info to Suno - just try to focus on telling Suno what you do want rather than what you don't.

[hidden yarrow]

what am I looking at? just a nice ANSI-image as a placeholder, or an actual melody/riff description in a special code / piano roll?

[hard beacon]

The question is very broadly worded. What exactly would you like to know?

[viral flame]

I think I got but thank you for your time.

[hard beacon]

all right 🙂

[viral flame]

I was having a lot of issue with loooove, insiiide, so I just use love and inside it still worked so Im happy.

[hard beacon]

perfect 😉

[onyx sparrow]

i have choosed a femal

but atm i get always man voicse

but i dont use any prompt which says "man"

nvm

[hard beacon]

use "female vocals" in the styles prompt section

Trial and Error 🙂

[sleek stump]

I convert an image to dot matrix and then use that as a filler for Suno to act on, since its not words, suno will instead just keep adding to the arrangement. A lot of us figured this out way back in v3.

[hidden yarrow]

Ok, I just use "..." 😉
And somtimes repeat the tag 3 times

[sharp quiver]

Hi, is there a prompt or method to make a song keep changing it's genre each transition from verse1 to verse2 to chorus, to verse 3 to bridge to outro?

its like having different genre in one song, for example:
verse 1 will be reggae
verse 2 will be r&b
chorus will be acoustic ballad
verse 3 will be orchestral
bridge will be city pop
outro will be motown 60s

it would be cool to manipulate the song's style/genre but i had no success from multiple trial and error via in the style input section and lyrics tag section

[midnight flicker]

have you tryed dooig this?
[verse 1 - reggae]
[verse 2 - r&b]
[chorus - acoustic ballad]
[verse 3 - orchestral]
[bridge - city pop]
[outro - motown 60s]

[neat nexus]

Man...it's too early in the morning for this....

Naturally I've got to give this a shot...

make this song drive across the country and move in with your internet girlfriend crazy

https://tenor.com/view/son-of-a-nutcracker-anger-mad-frustrated-gif-20241689

...it works?

[neat nexus]

Seriously...I want to see if I can do something to rework the opening somehow but the refinement on the vocals was insane...

https://suno.com/song/1635c007-23ed-4eb8-ba34-715216a2f3c1

Maybe a simple edit to the opening vocal start?

[modern dragon]

So, I ask again my question again, I have Pro subscription and wonder what I can type in the negative prompt to exclude reverb and delay on the vocals? 🙂 I think sometimes there is too much of the fx

[neat nexus]

What plan do you have?

[modern dragon]

Pro plan

[queen linden]

Thank you so much! finally a song over 2.16 seconds I m looking at a 4min +

[neat nexus]

Hmm...not sure if this would work for pro plan. Do you have access to an outside DAW and know how to use it?

[modern dragon]

Yes I have access to a DAW, and I know how to use it, but filtering out reverb and delay makes the sample choppy

[broken hatch]

PROBLEMS IN SUNO

Complaint given on 05.12.25

When I asked suno.ai to sing in Male vocal, it is singing in Female voice and vice versa many times around 50 percent.

Also, when I asked suno.ai to sing the verse by Male and Female together at the same time, it is sung by male or one after one

It is discouraging us from Suno.

Kindly, rectify and inform me.

From

P. Ch. Dastagiri, Telugu language
Andhra Pradesh
Indian.

Telugu

సునోలో సమస్యలు

నేను సునో.ఐని పురుష గాత్రంలో పాడమని అడిగినప్పుడు, అది స్త్రీ స్వరంలో పాడుతోంది మరియు దీనికి విరుద్ధంగా చాలాసార్లు దాదాపు 50 శాతం ఉంది.

అలాగే, నేను సునో.ఐని పురుష మరియు స్త్రీ పద్యం కలిసి పాడమని అడిగినప్పుడు, అది పురుషులు లేదా ఒకరి తర్వాత ఒకరు పాడారు

ఇది సునో నుండి మమ్మల్ని నిరుత్సాహపరుస్తుంది.

దయచేసి, సరిదిద్దండి మరియు నాకు తెలియజేయండి.

నుండి

పి. సి. దస్తగిరి, తెలుగు భాష

ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్

భారతీయుడు.

[neat nexus]

Ah, that's something you tried already then? I was going to suggest getting the stems and downloading them all but the FX to see if that recombined audio (minus the FX track) would fix it for you. Then I would have suggested uploading and covering that again to see if it stayed reverb free.

[modern dragon]

Oh I didnt know that I could download the stem without the fx, can I?

[neat nexus]

This is slightly easier to do in Suno Studio. But that requires a Premiere plan.

See the option for all detected stems? Usually one of them is an FX track.

[modern dragon]

Ah ok, so If I extract Vocals + Instrumental I get vocals without fx?

[polar spade]

This is just cut and paste from Grok researching us on discord as whats suggested to help, pick 1, 2 or a few:

Crisp, dry vocals : Intimate pop ballad, crisp dry vocals, close-mic'd singer in a quiet room, no room sound, raw emotional delivery. - Clear and punchy : Studio rap verse, clear punchy vocals, tight dry mix, forward in the center, minimal processing for raw edge. - Intimate close-up : Acoustic folk, intimate close-mic'd female vocal, crystal clear and breathy, dry studio feel like headphones only. - Raw and unprocessed : Indie rock lead, raw unprocessed vocals, upfront and dry

And as long as its not a live performance, the "acoustic folk" is almost always more dry and up front. With 4.0 it was perfect, but 5.0 does good at times too.

[modern dragon]

I already tried to download all stems yesterday and there was no dry vocal track. only wet

[half dragon]

You probably want to try the other option, for all Stems, not just Vocal + Instrumental - I believe that was what @neat nexus meant - that way there's a possibility that there is an FX stem among all the stems.

[modern dragon]

It was All Detected Stems I downloaded, and no fx tracks , all stems with wet fx

[neat nexus]

మీరు దీన్ని స్క్రిప్ట్ చేసి, మీకు కావలసిన విధంగా పని చేయడానికి కొంత సృజనాత్మక విస్తరణ చేయవలసి ఉంటుంది.

స్క్రిప్టింగ్ అంటే నా ఉద్దేశ్యం లిరిక్స్‌లో లింగ పేరు మరియు వాటి పంక్తులు ఉండేలా ఫార్మాట్ చేయడం:

జార్జ్: ఇలా పాడుతుంది
మేరీ: ఇలా పాడుతుంది

అలాంటిది. ఇది మీకు పూర్తిగా పని చేయవచ్చు. కానీ అలా కాకపోతే, మీరు కోరుకున్న గాత్రం తర్వాత నేరుగా విస్తరించి, దాన్ని పనిలోకి తీసుకురావడానికి మళ్ళీ ప్రయత్నించాలి. కాబట్టి జార్జ్ మీకు కావలసినది పాడినప్పటికీ మేరీ స్వరం తిరిగి రాకపోతే, మీరు జార్జ్ లైన్ తర్వాత వెంటనే తిరిగి ప్రారంభించి, మేరీ గీతాన్ని కలిగి ఉండేలా సాహిత్యాన్ని సవరించి, మీరు మేరీ గీతాన్ని పొందే వరకు మళ్ళీ ప్రయత్నిస్తారు, అప్పుడు అది జార్జ్ గీతమైనప్పుడు అతని స్వరం తిరిగి వస్తుంది. మీరు మంచి ఫ్లో పొందిన తర్వాత, రెండు గాత్రాలు కోరుకున్న విధంగా ప్రదర్శించబడుతున్నప్పుడు, ఏదైనా కరుకుదనాన్ని సున్నితంగా చేయాలనే ఆశతో మీరు ఆ అవుట్‌పుట్‌ను కవర్ చేస్తారు.

ఇది సహాయపడుతుందని నేను ఆశిస్తున్నాను.

అలాగే నేను ఈ సందేశాన్ని అందించడానికి Google Translateని ఉపయోగిస్తున్నాను, ఏదైనా తప్పుగా సంభాషించినా లేదా అభ్యంతరం చెప్పినా, అలాంటిది ఏదైనా ఉద్దేశపూర్వకంగా జరిగినా, ముందుగానే క్షమాపణలు కోరుతున్నాను.

You will probably need to both script it out and do some creative extending to get this to work the way you want to.

By scripting I mean formatting the lyrics to have a gendered name and their lines:

George: Sings this
Mary: Sings this

That sort of thing. This may entirely work for you. But if it doesn't then you will need to extend from directly after the vocal you want and try again to get it to work. So if George sings what you want but Mary's voice doesn't come back you would resume from right after George's line and edit the lyrics to have Mary's line and try again until you get Mary, then hopefully when it's George's line his vocal will return. Once you get a good flow so that both vocals are performing as desired, then you would cover that output in hopes of smoothing over any roughness.

I hope this helps.

Also I am using Google Translate to make this message, I apologize in advance for any miscommunications or offense, any such is unintended.

[neat nexus]

Sometimes that happens. Sorry.

[sleek stump]

I use dot matrix pics because its a lot nicer to look at 😄

[modern dragon]

Ah ok, so If I try to download again?, if I am lucky the stems will be without fx? 🙂

[half dragon]

Nah, you would have to extract Stems again.. and again... which can be costly and not guaranteed for that Stem 🙂

[neat nexus]

I used Studio to delete the vocal parts I didn't like in the intro and that fixed it right up...

https://suno.com/song/7c2d7cea-dcea-4944-ae62-607b21ceecd7

[modern dragon]

Yes I think so too, too expensive to try and hope for the best

[hidden yarrow]

"FX" means "sound effects" in Suno, e.g. risers/thunder/noise, but not the wet/fx part of all tracks. You won't get "dry" tracks, e.g. without reverb via stem extraction. You would need to extract the wet track and then use another professional tool to remove the reverb effect and then re-import it into Suno, if at all.

[modern dragon]

Already tried that too, but the sound gets choppy and you can still hear the reverb

[hidden yarrow]

Then you need a better tool to remove the reverb. But yes, this is more of a last resort. You should try to generate your song "as dry as possible" ... but unfortunately this will affect ambient/mood of the song, too.

[subtle stirrup]

Hi everyone,
Is there any tech that can accurately fix pronunciation mistakes without changing the generated song's voice or music?
I'm currently stuck with a Suno-generated song that I really love, but it has some pronunciation issues. I've tried recreating it with the same style, voice reference, and updated lyrics — over 400 versions so far — and not a single one matches the original. This includes remasters too, which do correct the pronunciation but alter the voice.
What I've tried so far:

ElevenLabs
Kits AI

Neither worked with the accuracy I need.
Any suggestions on how to achieve this?

[half dragon]

Have you tried Suno Editor?
I often use that to fix a word or two when it was wrongly pronounced with great success.

[subtle stirrup]

yes, but it is not generating properly

[quiet solar]

As VRKing says, that's one of the things the Editor is intended to support, though it's not perfect as Suno still has to regenerate the vocals and instruments each time, and those regenerations will inevitably differ even if only slightly.

If you're looking for a really high accuracy fix, you need to take one of those factors out of the equation. And since you're fixing the vocals, that realistically means the instruments. So...

• Start by splitting the vocal/instrument stems on the song you're working on.
• (Optionally) Create a persona for the voice using part or all of the vocal stem
• Extend from partway through the song and repeat the section you need fixed in the Extension (using the persona if you made one)
• Repeat until you get vocals that are correct and sound close to the original
• Split the vocal/instrument stems on the extension
• Then either;

a) If you have Suno Studio, pull in the instrumental track from the original and the vocal tracks from the original and the extension, and replace the relevant original vocals with the extension vocals. You may need to do some slight additional tweaking around volume to make sure it's perfectly consistent, but it's usually okay

b) If you don't have Suno Studio, do the same process but in an external DAW or audio editor of your choice.

...
Further to the above, it often helps to replace an entire section's vocals (e.g. the whole Verse, or the whole Chorus, etc.) rather than try to fix a specific word, as that avoids any issues with Suno changing the cadence during the extension and helps hide any minor issues with volume or slightly different sounds for the singer.

That's true of both the Editor fix or the split/rebuild fix I described.

[subtle stirrup]

The flow of the song is amazing, but the pronunciation is wrong — and it was intentional on my part.
I was restoring a love song I wrote in high school on paper to a digital format with proper spellings using claude ai. It was originally written in Kannada (my native language). After that, I casually asked if there's any tool that can take lyrics and turn them into a song — and it suggested Suno.
I didn't think an AI-generated song could be any good, so I carelessly gave it the English transliteration version along with all the tags. The model was 4.5 all, and to my surprise, one of the songs turned out to be more than amazing — I was completely hooked. But there were pronunciation mistakes.
I then purchased a Pro subscription, and later upgraded to Max, even trying to edit in the studio — but no luck. I didn't like a single version (now over 550+ attempts).
What I've tried:

Separated the stems and secured the music
Created personas and explored every possible method, including AI voice cloning services to recreate the correct version with the voice I need — but I still couldn't get that same feel

Finally, I gave up. Since I have the music, I've decided to just sing it myself. and messaged here before doing that.

[half dragon]

Also... sometimes... you might have to spell the word phonetically to get it pronounce correctly

[quiet solar]

@subtle stirrup Cheers for the additional info.

I'd recommend giving the split/rebuild route a try - I use it regularly and can confirm it's pretty reliable. If you get a 'fix' in the extension that you're happy with but run into difficulty with actually editing the song, let me know - I do this so often, I might be able to help you out.

Singing over it yourself is also an entirely valid option. 🙂

[polar spade]

Did you recently, as in the past hour, download the zip of stem files or at least one stem in Wav format? Download of stems doesnt seem to work for me now for any option. Ive tested two songs both multiple and paired stems. I can only d/l the WAV file of the whole song, so far.

[polar spade]

. . . Or anyone else?

[half dragon]

Let me try..

Yes, I can download single Stem

[polar spade]

Hmm... its me then. Ill test a couple more. Thanks. A full song WAV gives the confirm notice and shows in my download files. But stems preps the download, but I click , it sits and then drops away with no notice.

Ill start testing the mp3s too and just restart everything after that.

[pure panther]

Put cacophony in your negatives, it seems to be working for me

You can also put, noisy and over produced in the negatives

[hollow topaz]

Will do — thanks.
If I find a reliable pattern I’ll share it here.

[tight spade]

Also try [Pauses] in stayle to help it work .. think of styles as on and off switches for commands.

[raven turtle]

When I get this kind of error I stem out the vocals are try and use a word from the rest of the vocal that will fit. If that doesn’t do it, I’ll sing the word and use Audimee to get a vocal voice to blend in to smooth it out. It usually works. I’ve just done it today actually. The word “Plastic” Was being pronounced as “Tastic”. I use a “p” sound from later in the track and pasted it in using Logic Pro. Sorted!

[coral flume]

I have also run into the pronunciation problems, when trying to create Hawaiian songs. Have you tried adding [Kannada words woven in naturally] in your style prompts? 🧐 🤔

it worked for me when creating Hawaiian songs

[hollow topaz]

Makes sense.
I’ve noticed that using minimal descriptors in Style also helps — things like “space”, “breathing”, “light texture” tend to prevent the midrange from flooding.
Suno seems to react well when the Style field stays clean and focused.

[fast relic]

Is it possible to use Personas in Suno Studio? I am trying to rework a short section of a song, and when I generate the revision—with a slight change in lyrics—the result consistently doesn't match the style of the rest of the vocals on the track. If I could apply a Persona, I'm hopeful that I could get a better result ... ?

Useful to know:

• The song itself was generated from a persona I created
• The styles I've entered are the same as the persona's styles
• I have tried reworking the clip using takes on the same track and as a new track
• I have tried both "Replace" and "Recreate"
• I have set the Audio Influence to 100%
• I have tried setting Style Influence everywhere from 50% to 100% and back again
• The clip is about 18 seconds long

[subtle stirrup]

Yes it worked when I gave it in original language, but the problem is I want the same flow and feel as the initial song it generated ( i think I'd i release it, it'll be a super hit, it is just like a super hit movie song, with heart felt lyrics i wrote at my young age.

[tight spade]

lol woops

also if you add in what era of genre will help with sound.. 2025s << crud sound 2020s <<< sounds better 2010s sounds best

my preference

[fast relic]

A couple of times I've seen a very brief message saying it "detected" something (I couldn't see if it was copyright, or name, or what, because it flashed so fast). It was my own music, so I don't know what it thought I was uploading.

[polar spade]

Thanks. Yea, the whole song can download, so its something connected with the stem download process, im guessing

[hollow topaz]

From what I’ve tested, Personas don’t transfer reliably inside Studio yet — it’s not the same pipeline as the initial generation.
Even if you reuse the same styles and influence settings, Studio tends to rebuild the vocal identity from scratch.

The closest match I’ve gotten is by:
• generating a fresh Persona-based version outside Studio
• extracting the specific vocal passage
• and using that as Audio Influence instead of letting Studio reinterpret the voice.

It’s not perfect, but it keeps the timbre much closer to the original Persona.

[polar spade]

OK. Europe. Stop using Suno. Im getting excessive use errors. 😄

[quiet solar]

As an alternative route, you can also try running an Extend from the song, with the persona attached for good measure, and getting it to repeat the section in the extension. If you get a good fix in the extension, you can split the vocal stems out on the original and the extension and use Suno Studio to replace the original with the new.

[pure panther]

I had something incredible happen today. I got a banger in 30 credits! The cheapest song I've ever made.

[fast relic]

That's a great idea, and while I already tried a version of that, but it might be worth trying again.

*I wonder how it will go, given that the section to be replaced is 30 seconds into a 5 minute song 🤣 *

[sterile horizon]

Wish i read this before i paid for a year - I can't get extend to work and editing is so hard on this software

[ashen oracle]

anyone know how to stop vocals from doin oohhhoooh's and oohaaa's? it does it in every gen i make and its getting distracting.

[half dragon]

Not sure but maybe try to change your style or genre a little bit, see if helps...

[ashen oracle]

i tried, i did try that, do you know if there is like a negative promt for this?

[half dragon]

There's a box for negative prompt but it's not guarantee thing and I don't know of a negative prompt to fix this. Others might so let's see if anyone chimes in. I have a fair share of the same issue, and changing style did help me.

[remote ivy]

yeah look that style summary it creates. i get something similar sometimes when it wants to make a folk genre..will literally replace an instrument like a couple of violin notes or such w/ vocalization...excluding folk if recall has worked for me

[sleek stump]

There isnt one that we are aware of.. However, when I run into that its usually a v5 thing. Try 4.5+ nd see if it solves the issue, from my experience it has much less of that. If you get what you want, then you can do a 99% cover in v5 to pseudo remaster. (remaster really isnt worth it yet.)

[ashen oracle]

I added -oooh and -aaah and it reduced notably, worth testing further too

Unfortunatly it is something inherant to both music styles im mixing, so that issnthelping (trance and power metal)

[sleek stump]

Ya, they are both riddled with them, but try it in 4.5+, I get a significantly less amount of them.

[broken hatch]

Thank you so much. I will try

[pure panther]

Apparently I have dance music in my bones 😂 I had made some video game instrumental tracks on a software called 1 bitdragon a while back (I play no instruments and have no training). I decided to upload them to use as song inspiration and they're all being interpreted as EDM. They don't even sound like EDM really, it's video game music lol. (I would have said EDM was my fav genre back then)
The inspiration feature is so cool!

[agile plinth]

Sounds like you just need things to complain about. Suno works better than
ever for me, it's beyond easy to use and get anything out I can imagine

[agile plinth]

You can give it extremely precise marching orders.

You just can't explicitly mention artists name of course.

You can simply use your brain and describe what you want to hear.
If you don't know how to describe what Johnny cash sounds like then it's time to learn.

[vocal remnant]

@ashen oracle I would try " no vibrato" and "do not sustain notes" but thats just me guessing im not sure

[hollow hare]

Bad idea, the AI tokenization will separate it to the learning g pools which had the token "no" (of which should be little to none patterns) and "vibrato", which will cause a lot of vibrato.

There is a reason why the Exclude Style prompt exists

[vocal remnant]

@hollow hare thats what I mean like put it in the exclude section

[hollow hare]

Ah, my bad. In the exclude field, you do not need to state no/exclude/etc., just the terms you do not need (of which has a chance of occurring in the style prompts you used!!)

If you excluded a term that had little to no chance happening with your input style prompts, the exclusion will bias the learning pool to the term and will likely cause it to happen! #📚┃suno-school message

[sharp kettle]

i saw some one mention stems. open vino for audacity does a slight better job then sunos stems.
i tested it just once. the v5. song was completely unusable, save your creds for more music and art gens 😁

just make sure to hit the advanced options and do 4 passes.
parts of the suno tracks do over lap with vocal tracks.
so learning how to sample and have opinvino music generator fix the track after words is also a good way.... to develop your track.

also uploaded an older ai version track to generate a similar track realy helps you get the sound you want in newer ai models.😝

[jade mist]

I'm really hoping Suno will fix the routing issue with v5, I mean I can tell when it's actual v5 and when it's fake. But it's been over two months since the model was launched and still the routing issue is not fixed. I've reported this to a bug channel a week or so ago, and I also reported it 2 months ago with their feedback feature.

[scenic coyote]

hey all, someone left a comment on my song " let It off the leash" (pinned) that I was "sharing the keys to the algorithm." it was a nice comment, but what it really did was inspire me to see if we could get a huge playlist of everyone letting it off the leash.

I made the persona public, maybe it'll get some traction and we can come up with some cool stuff. it will all be put into a public playlist if you decide to go for it.

I think it would be a cool idea. I doubt it will get traction but we'll see!

https://suno.com/persona/e00b4fe6-61a7-485b-bff8-5e09cbcde2ee

[graceful condor]

I posted references a mass of. If your rainbow party pop songs work perfectly good for you. Sounds like you just need to piss other users off because you are so great.

[quiet solar]

Be wary of drawing conclusions from a single test. 😉

Suno's stemming works absolutely fine in most cases for vocal switching. Open Vino is also a nice set of AI Tools for Audacity - the Audio Resolution part can do some really nice cleaning on Suno tracks too.

[quiet solar]

If it helps, one of the dark arts to this kind of fix is that you're not actually trying to create a fix at that point in the song, you're just trying to create a vocal stem which can be used for the fix.

So I'd set the extension point after a full verse and chorus (or whatever section you're looking to change) so that Suno carries that over into the Extension. Then you can get it to repeat the section you're looking to fix multiple times in the Extension to give you multiple attempts at getting a vocal fix you like and can stem out.

Another approach, which I tend to use more these days, is replicating the section before, then the section I'm trying to fix, then the section after in the Extension. And depending how long that is, running that through a couple of times. The reason being is it gives you a backup option of completely replacing the instrumentals as well as just the vocals for that section, and a bit more wriggle room to find a natural transition point with the original sections before and after for when you're stitching it back into the song.

[vocal flicker]

I'm working on some Celtic influenced songs. That in itself is not a problem. However, I can't seem to get past the basic female singer voice. I have tried to generate personas by generating songs in other genres, but even those stay close the original voice. And when i do get a voice that is different, the moment I use that persona in a Celtic influenced songs I wrote myself, it results in the same voice that I already got in begin with.

I have tried various prompts with all kind of timbre descriptions, vibrato levels, the soprano, mezza-soprano and Contralto tags but I can't seem to get anything that is really different.

Any idea how to get this to work?

[visual plank]

try alternative prompts such as "traditional Irish folk" or "Scottish" or "gaelic", "male voice/vocal", also dislike the version if you don't want to go that way. Set advanced option to close to 100% on "style influence" slider.

[onyx sparrow]

yo guys what up. ehm i have a problem with the synth leads. most of them i dont like it and i need to generate 100 tracks and i like only 1 of them

and this needs a lot of $$$ credits.

and this sucks....

[vocal flicker]

I'll give that a try. Thanks.

[visual plank]

has anyone managed to prevent Suno from doing virtuoso-level instrumentals? Often, these instrumental fillers end up like eddie van halen epic solos that distract from the song's narrative. One thing I have tried is "simple instrumental" but it's not foolproof.

[jade mist]

Anyone else here unable to sign in to Suno or do anything else? I'm really hoping that if it's down for everyone, then after this the issue with v5 routing to something different is fixed

[wise kindle]

working fine for me

[polar spade]

@robust quail Your plan is set to cancel January 2nd. Whether you feel you did not cancel, or not, you mentioned you wish to cancel now. So I see on your page that your plan is set to cancel Jan 2nd.

The 'CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION" button would be found at the same spot that you see your "Renew Subscription" button, if your subscription was not already set to cancel on January 2nd.

[vocal flicker]

I have done an experiment in which I created three versions of the same song (just generated lyrics):

1. Using a persona from someone else that has a distinctly different sound than what I get when I generate a celtic inspired song. I used the same prompt as the original used (except removing the tags eeriie and waltz).
2. Without using a persona and with the type of song changed from Dark Electro Swing to Celtic. All other settings the same. This results in the same voice I always get when using the type of music Celtic, Irish, Irish Folk, etc.
3. Wih using the same persona as using with 1 and only changed the type of song from Dark Electro Swing to Celtic. And even though using a persona, the voice is now almost the same as the one I always get.

Here is a playlist for you to hear yourself: https://suno.com/playlist/9686d688-1762-48cb-b1b3-ae3e537619a6

[pure panther]

It's having issues, clear your cookies, wait for the "explore hooks" button to show up and click that to sign back in.

[livid trout]

is there a way in studio , when working on the voice track to make the voice sing the same phrase melody, but just add a word in front of it ? it seems to be hit or miss, and it changes the rhythm or tries to stow the word in the same line, which results in singing the 2 words in an unnatural rythm that doesn't accord with the song.

Would be nice that you could just be more exact and illustrate the phrasing with an interfice like synthesiser V has

[polar spade]

Did you want a word in front or you just want it to wait a beat? Generally, first of all, if we run 20 or so outputs it is often that suno will try one version on the One and others a beat or two early.

Nonetheless, using Edit UI is where we highlight the verse we want changed, but also include a beat or some before the verse starts. We can get that by dragging , but also CTRL and tapping the left arrow to move the magenta token by token. Counting your clicks can help.

Just experiment, first tries, but just add a space , put in a word, or an "mmm" or a dash within the "corrected/replaced " verse (which is the same verse, with just a word or dash before it.

" The same melody" is a little tougher, but it will be close if your changing a verse towards the end which you alread have the same melody in similar verses or choruses. Since your adding a word, ytoure adding a note, so you hope it adds a 7th or 5th and starts the rest of the melody without changes.

No one says you cant , when making this change, add three more copies of the changed verse , at the same time, and see if suno sings one differently that you like. Keep that one and delete the rest.

See how that changes things.

[frigid orbit]

So we just don't have a tech chat anymore?

But we cater a chat fully to the most non-standard aspect of suno 🤡

[polar spade]

Oh, that wasnt even in studio. To include Studio you can clone the song, work on THAT cloned copy . Get one you like, then paste that version of the verse into your original in Studio.

[polar spade]

The names change, but you can ask whatever you wish. But I guess new users see "tech" as tech support and dump their issues in here when they dont get support -- same as last year. Thats my guess.

[livid trout]

well if the voice can come up with something that sounds equally good and differs a bit in intonation it's good, but sometimes it's frustrating that it would really try to do something entirely difference.

And yes, I first open the song in studio, explode the stems and then work on the voice so it would change the voice alone.

[frigid orbit]

Yeah but to put it as prompt, is kinda wild. We still have 0 insights into how things are done when training, so prompting is as much as a science as alchemy atm.

[polar spade]

I just keep my Walmart Harry Potter wand i got last year for Christmas and a book of incantations. Works as good as prompts, most times.

[frigid orbit]

Still better than Joshuasca's wizardry.

[polar spade]

Yea, just one letter or space can make a difference. Most dont know about CTRL and arrow <-- --> to click across the words more precisely. It really helps in NOT adding too much room with a replace that Suno goes in a different direction.

[polar spade]

You got me there. Dont know what that is.... (checking AI)

[frigid orbit]

I could've swore you were around for it. It concluded in my server profile banner.

[polar spade]

I dont even recall what I have for breakfast. So there is that.

[frigid orbit]

Spooky that, I been noticing I'm blanking on most yesterdays' happenings.

[polar spade]

Were/are they a user?

[frigid orbit]

Yes, they've been inactive since and tend to change their names around to hide. But I keep their ID for that reason 1110634616110448661

It's public btw, anyone can copy anyonne's ID.

[tidal prism]

Did you ever get this?

Does anyone have tips on changing metal vocals? I have made some really cool thrash metal songs but the lead singer sounds like the lead singer from W.A.S.P but I can’t seem to really get it off that? I wanna try get it more in the direction of James hetfield from Metallica

[tired forge]

So I can't record myself on the website, but through another option?

[polar spade]

Suno has a record option if you wish..

[tired forge]

OMFG… I'm sorry. I've never tried to do my own voice.

[polar spade]

As long as youre close to a key, suno does a good job working it out.

[tired forge]

I don't think I am because of how tired I am. I really appreciate the help. You're a badass and a legend. Thank you so much again

[zinc relic]

Yooo How to use other example (ohhhh) (OHHH) [Pre chorus] (pause) and other that only i knoww

[remote ivy]

every other render (50%) of cover (which the originally repeats the 2 last lines of a verse 1) is repeating this undesirable behavior...is their a prompt i can embed in the defined section in the lyrics that will 100% squash this behavior? (I tried the obvious such as "don't repeat the last 2 lines of verse"...no mas

[supple moon]

Anyone else having an issue tonight with half your generations singing the words from the Style Box?

[zinc relic]

Is there possible to add an Sound effects on song like [Sound Effects: sword unsheathing]

[delicate karma]

I’m trying to create songs in Suno that use both male and female vocals, and what I need is a way to assign which specific lines or sections should be sung by the male voice and which should be sung by the female voice.
I’ve already tried adding labels like [Male], [Female], [Male Vocals], [Female Vocals], marking sections such as Verse/Chorus with gender tags, and using prompts like “male and female duet.” However, Suno still tends to mix or swap the voices unpredictably, or sometimes uses only one voice for the entire track.
Is there any confirmed method, prompt format, or best practice that reliably lets us control which parts are sung by each vocal type?
For example:
[Male] Verse 1
[Female] Chorus
[Male + Female] Bridge
Any guidance, examples, or success cases would be greatly appreciated.

[craggy axle]

Hi, I'm having a problem; some songs won't add to a playlist I created... Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

[sullen wave]

Try adding [female again] for the next female part for both use [MALE + FEMALE = TOGETHER]

[frigid orbit]

Just try, if you can think of it.

[polar spade]

Short answer is no. And long answer assumes you want a sound effect to happen at a given point in the song, so..... no.

Suno emulates more often some sound effects like [beep] . The others can only and rarely be coaxed by writing lyrics about sword fight or sheathing or even sliding metal and then hoping Suno will come through in something that sounds close that then we can adjust the speed up to sound better. So ultimately.... no.

I have before made sound effects with my mouth like a chicken or dog, write a sound about chickens or dogs and gotten a better rendition by suno by its interpreting my noise into a better chicken or dog.

All of this just to get the sound.

Yes. We could try uploading the same sound, but if we're technical, using sampled sounds from the internet is against TOS. Thats all i'll say there.

Once you got a sound, then you're best to have Premium to place it where you want it with Studio. Otherwise, theres only a slight chance of make a persona from it and trying to prompt for it while within an extension.

So again, long answer... no.

[zinc relic]

Uh it's called bracket something

[frigid orbit]

No, there’s no 100%.

So you want three different voices one male and one female, and one together.

Id attack this concept like this; I start up focusing solely on one voice. Once I got my first voice ready, I will extend, then I will focus on the second voice. From there I will go to full song so I get my full song and if everything worked out correctly, there’s now two voices in my full song. Now I extend after the second voice and from there I will use more or less the tags and prompt you suggested first.

And why I do it like this? Is because you are trying to generate something and rely on that the AI exactly knows what you mean. This way you’ve already created audio context, so following the prompt of; male, female, together or duo. So for now, extent or cover Suno already has a bit more context to play with, you can do twelve voices or three or six.. in a similar way, it’s also how you do way better genre fusions.

[frigid orbit]

Upload the sound you want and extend from it, those tags are much more likely to reproduce than produce something out of nothing.

It’s how my own track that’s paced around a monster breathing works.

You can increase the chance of it reproducing those sounds by having it loop 8 or 16 times first before extending. So in essence you create a pattern for suno to hold on to

I’ve used that method for meme songs that use audio from existing memes and reproduces the audio fully within the track

[hard beacon]

or, the easiest way, export it and do a workaround in your favorite DAW 🙂

[frigid orbit]

That’s most solutions. Just hire a musician in X genre.

[hard beacon]

🙂

you are right, but we talking about adding a SFX file...

[devout magnet]

Hi everyone, I'm struggling to get an accurate cover using the Cover feature, especially when changing the language.

I am covering an Indonesian R&B song into Korean (using Romanization). I have matched the syllable count for every single line.

My Setup:
• Feature: Cover Mode (Uploading the original Indonesian song audio).
• Issue 1 (Melody Run-on): The melody often runs-on between lines, ignoring line breaks, which makes the song shorter and changes the intended rhythm/phrasing (even when I use commas/periods in the prompt). The song's flow becomes rushed.
• Issue 2 (Pitch Shift): Despite having Audio Influence at 9-10, the vocal melody and pitch often deviate significantly from the original audio when the new foreign lyrics are inserted.

My Question is:

1. Are there any known specific Romanization formatting tricks (e.g., using spaces, hyphens, or specific punctuation) that can force Suno to accurately follow the original Indonesian song's rhythm and phrasing/pauses when generating lyrics in a new language?
2. What is the best way to instruct Suno to prioritize the timing and pitch of the uploaded audio over the phonetic flow of the new Korean lyrics?

Any advanced tips from experienced users for foreign language covers would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

[polar spade]

@delicate karma Here a quick try at what @frigid orbit is mentioning. I was posting the same but just deleted it.

Here one output of several different tries, all doing different combinations of harmonies, accompaniments, and some choral. The better was just using [Harmony] , and using three times had a better influence it seemed, but id have to run 40 outputs to make that claim

Anyway, it followed well enough the prompting and style by focusing on an extension and not the whole song.

Then I go to the next verse or chorus and keep doing the same thing.

https://suno.com/s/zovOpUGqrt2TK2SX

[delicate karma]

Sometimes it performs very well, the male parts, female parts, and group sections are clearly distinguished, and I’m very satisfied with the result

[quiet solar]

1. Suno is fairly good at understanding a comma to be a pause. You can also use ' within a word for a similar although less reliable effect. Suno is prompt based, so there isn't any way to force it to do something, but you can try to guide it along the path you want.

2. The audio influence slider is the only way. Again, Suno can't be instructed. Cover is actually the headache here, since that's designed to make alterations to the original and pitch / tempo shifts are very, very common. There's no reliable way to tell Suno not to do that.

One option around both of these would be to record your own vocals performing the Korean lyrics and attach that to the instrumental of the song you're covering, upload into Suno and then use Remaster to replace your voice with an AI singer, but with all of the pitch and cadence pre-built in rather than relying on Suno to generate it.

This is, of course, assuming you own the copyright to the original song and have it's original instrumental stem. Which of course you do, right, since otherwise you shouldn't be uploading the original into Suno in the first place. 😉

[polar spade]

If you would link the suno page version, if you feel inclined, it better helps others to review your prompts for further analysis. As well as makes it easier to scrub through to the chorus or verses while reading the lyrics.

I understand if you feel the need for privacy.

Honestly though, Im not going to listen to 5 minutes of an mp3 file to hunt out the bits.

But glad the technique may be working out for you. 👍

[quiet solar]

The prompting you were using is fine (I'm assuming you also specify the voices in the style prompt too). The issue is randomness - not every prompt is picked up by Suno. If it helps, think of it as treating them as suggestions not commands.

So if you're relying on it correctly switching voices every time you prompt, the entire exercise does become rather luck-based. Hence why most suggestions will involve creative workarounds rather than trying to generate an entire clean song in a single click.

[delicate karma]

I’m not creating a 5-minute song from just a single prompt line and one click, my input includes detailed descriptions, lyrics, and arrangements totaling up to 2,836 characters

[polar spade]

@delicate karma Yea. I agree. I did a total of about 20 outputs and just posted the one. But each had all sorts of varieties of blends and harmonies -- all pretty nice -- with only one that was all femal-ish vocals. So, yes, run a few, change a prompt, run more, tweak again , but overall all keep the layout and arrangement/composition about the same throughout. All done within just one extension so it doesnt affect the rest of the song.

I will add, I often add the [interlude] before each extension so Suno make an audio separation from the previous output. Then we delete or keep the interlude when done. Otherwise, it can often ignore any new prompts and just repeat the same vocal as the previous verses.

[polar spade]

I think we are suggestion that just having specific prompts per verse or chorus and just fun one big output will not affect Suno to follow those prompts as well as doing the same with individual extensions. Or rather, you will randomly win less times.

But if it works for you. Thats great. You may have found the holy grail that works for your style of music.

[delicate karma]

[Female vocal]
Every little breath tonight
Floats like music in the cold,
Even shadows come alive
When the city lights take hold.
----I’ve tried this, but it doesn’t seem to work reliably in this part

By the way, thank you for your help

[polar spade]

These are always suggestions to keep in your toolbox. No worries. Use whatever you feel works best.

[delicate karma]

For duet songs, I usually generate around ten versions and delete about six of them because they don’t fit what I want. But that’s fine, there are still some amazing results that I’m very happy with. Suno is truly impressive, and I hope future updates will allow us to include additional commands that Suno must follow, such as “spoken” or “hook.”

[frigid orbit]

Hey look, it’s not about reliability or even making sense as long as the output is what you want. Good to hear homie.

[frigid orbit]

Great minds think alike

[worn flicker]

I wish...lol. I haven't even gotten close to his rolling growl. They will scratch and scream, but nothing like that, "Yeeaah" growl Hetfield does. Sorry, but I am kinda glad. No Steven Tyler, no James Hetfield, No Eddie Vedder, or Ozzy. none of the iconic voices are duplicated often enough to sample. I think it keeps a very important line drawn. The last thing I want ever is for the artists I love to lose their drive.

[polar spade]

For what its worth: I took a poll about 4 months back and no one could agree (and I even asked A.I. ) on what the definition of a "Hook" is.

So that can be a problem with Suno, if we use the work "Hook" in any of our tags or prompts.

[worn flicker]

My tutorial still holds true even in v5. With the same caveats. I get the best results from "Walking Suno" as I call it. However, even with tags Suno will swap them up. Making a song with specific gender lyrics. Any songs that have lyrics expected to be sung by a male or female is going to be a task. You can use the way I do it to get there the fastest but you will still end up extending and replacing quite a bit.

[delicate karma]

Do you like this song? Even though I’m not Mongolian, I find this style of music really fascinating

[worn flicker]

https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1314766265897717780

[delicate karma]

Of course I’ve used this method as well, but the results are still not guaranteed,but that’s alright I still have songs that I’m very satisfied with, and I listen to them every day

[graceful condor]

It was just to good to be true for the last 2 couple of days. But today AI having a bad day AGAIN. This Ai makes no sense anymore. Same Prompt, same song but now the song is cut off each them at 4:34. Before it was done in one go. Suno is just so inconsistent it is really annoying.

[wet dune]

Anyone have up to date experience with landr vs distrokid (or others) for distribution?

I've released 4 songs with Landr so far, and they allow you to release 5 ai tracks per month. 2 they didn't put through to apple music (seems it's both because of ai sensitivity and because I labeled them jazz).

But now I've gone and released a 7 song album with 3 new songs and those 4 old releases. I assumed that would be fine by their terms and conditions, but they've blocked it and now it seems like nothing will go ahead. (I also paid for their upgraded memberhsip to get my songs on tiktok, but it seems they won't do that now, and have so far ignored all questions about a refund).

Very frustrating waiting days between email responses as well.

I am tempted to just move everything over to distrokid, with my main worry being the on-going fees to leave my album up if I get away from making music.

[worn flicker]

I have zero proof of this other than being around a while and coming in here to notice the same issues being talked about. It is almost like Suno's generation process uses something like a seed rotation on a large scale. I can't think of anything else that would cause the same issues across multiple users during the same time period and then it just goes away. Especially when it is things like audio clipping, gain increases/decreases within sections of a song in a single generation. Not like even knowing the answer would change anything...lol.

[unborn star]

I have similar problems, and was just wondering

[worn flicker]

Outstanding. I am glad you got it the way you like. Some days I can get it to control better than others. Recently, using the sentence style song description has helped. Like, "This epic nu-metal duet begins with soft female vocals along with grand piano and violin, then joined by raspy male vocals and distorted guitar.....

[wet dune]

I was wondering about that but wasn't sure where it should go.

Tried the general channel but that moves way too quick.